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Ep 4 – Caffeine, Kids, and Catch-Ups
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This week, we’re keeping it cozy and chaotic with a classic catch-up. Felicia spirals into a full-blown coffee identity crisis(is it saving her or betraying her?), while Natalie dives into her son’s latest growth projections. We’re talking pediatricians, Natalie’s lake life, and the wild art of just getting through the week with your sanity mostly intact. As always, raw, real, and functionally feral.
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Transcript
Intro
Travel Plans and Road Trip Challenges
00:00:50
Felicia Devine
Hello ah and welcome back, Natalie. It looks as if it looks if you're in a different place today. Where are you?
00:00:59
Natalie Richards
back at the lake. We're trying to come up here couple times a month, at least for summer, because it's just, if I don't plan it in, it doesn't happen. So we're here.
00:01:08
Felicia Devine
How far away is that from your house?
00:01:10
Natalie Richards
It's like four hours. It's, it's like definitely, definitely a ah ah decent, a decent drive, but it's fun.
00:01:13
Felicia Devine
Awesome. Oh, okay.
00:01:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah, yeah.
00:01:19
Natalie Richards
It's fun to come up here. But we need to get you here. And I was looking last night, was looking last night on how to get from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to
00:01:24
Felicia Devine
I know.
00:01:32
Natalie Richards
to like Rhinelander Airport, because Rhinelander is pretty close to where we are.
00:01:37
Felicia Devine
Is that in Illinois or is that Wisconsin?
00:01:39
Natalie Richards
It's Wisconsin. So Rhinelander is like maybe 30 minutes from the cabin.
00:01:44
Felicia Devine
Okay. Okay.
00:01:45
Natalie Richards
So you'd have to fly either to Chicago or Minneapolis.
00:01:50
Felicia Devine
Oh, both are fine.
00:01:50
Natalie Richards
But I was like, oh, you could go to Minneapolis and you could see Aunt Judy.
00:01:51
Felicia Devine
Those are easy. Mm-hmm.
00:01:55
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. you know, I haven't been back there in a while.
00:01:57
Natalie Richards
Or not. I was thinking that. i was like, I don't think you've been back there in so long.
00:02:00
Felicia Devine
have not visited. Yeah, not since I had Sepp. Mm-hmm.
00:02:04
Natalie Richards
Yeah. So that would be an option.
00:02:06
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:02:06
Natalie Richards
You could go there and drive, which is a long drive, or you just fly then to Rhinelander.
00:02:11
Felicia Devine
No. No. Sepp cannot handle a car seat.
00:02:16
Natalie Richards
Oh, really?
00:02:16
Felicia Devine
No, still. He has not liked his car seat from like four weeks old.
00:02:17
Natalie Richards
oh no.
00:02:20
Natalie Richards
Oh, no.
00:02:21
Felicia Devine
We went up to Vermont a couple months ago and he cried the whole, well, it's five driving hours. He cried the whole time. We pulled over. I'm not exaggerating 10 times because I literally was like, there's a pricker in his seat or like it's pinching him actually wrong with him because you the second you took him out of his car seat, he was like giggling.
00:02:35
Natalie Richards
Yeah, something's like actually wrong.
00:02:41
Natalie Richards
Oh, God.
00:02:41
Felicia Devine
And then you put him in his car seat and he was hysterical. He cried the whole way up. And then Dan and I were like, at what point do you turn around?
00:02:45
Natalie Richards
my God.
00:02:47
Felicia Devine
But we were like halfway.
00:02:47
Natalie Richards
and Right. Do we actually do this? Yeah. It's like horrible.
00:02:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So I won't drive more than an hour.
00:02:51
Natalie Richards
Oh no. Jane went through that. like Okay. Oh my God. Okay. Yeah. so So Jane went through that at six weeks only because we were driving an hour and a half in the car every day to go to work when he was that young.
00:03:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:03:06
Natalie Richards
So he's like, I had to like reach back and hold his little finger.
00:03:07
Felicia Devine
He was over it.
00:03:11
Natalie Richards
Like, or he, like his hand held my finger while we drove the whole time.
00:03:11
Felicia Devine
Oh. Yeah.
00:03:17
Natalie Richards
so I've been through that. It's awful. And thankfully now he sits on this four hour drive.
00:03:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:03:22
Felicia Devine
Does he?
00:03:22
Natalie Richards
Doesn't even, doesn't need an ounce of stimulation. Like he just stares out the window.
00:03:28
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:03:28
Natalie Richards
Doesn't like he has his little snacks and he just sits there for four hours.
00:03:32
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh. Good job, Jean.
00:03:34
Natalie Richards
Unbelievable. Like, thank God he's used to it.
00:03:36
Felicia Devine
Well, he's so used to the car.
00:03:39
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:03:39
Felicia Devine
you guys commute everywhere.
00:03:40
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:03:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:03:41
Natalie Richards
So we have everywhere we go is 45 minutes there and back. So.
00:03:46
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:03:48
Natalie Richards
It's just fun.
Upcoming Florida Trip and Poolside Podcast Idea
00:03:50
Natalie Richards
So we're going to get you up here at some point, but it's not a bad, it's not that awful of a flight situation.
00:03:52
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yeah.
00:03:57
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:03:57
Natalie Richards
You wouldn't even be on the flight very long.
00:03:57
Felicia Devine
And I'll fly. I'll fly anywhere. Sep's good on an airplane because he doesn't sit in a car seat.
00:04:00
Natalie Richards
Yeah. And he'll be fine.
00:04:03
Natalie Richards
Right. And so he loves to sit on your lap.
00:04:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yep. And play with all the things.
00:04:07
Natalie Richards
and Works.
00:04:10
Natalie Richards
So that's perfect.
00:04:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. It's a good age.
00:04:12
Natalie Richards
So we'll do that. Maybe, maybe fall or something. Cause it's beautiful up here in the fall.
00:04:15
Felicia Devine
Okay. Yeah. Oh. And then we're going to Florida together in November.
00:04:21
Natalie Richards
Yes, we are.
00:04:22
Felicia Devine
So excited.
00:04:23
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:04:24
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:04:24
Natalie Richards
but We can do an in-person podcast.
00:04:26
Felicia Devine
Oh, live from Florida.
00:04:27
Natalie Richards
Can you see us schlepping all of our stuff?
00:04:31
Felicia Devine
like From the pool, poolside, slash pad.
00:04:32
Natalie Richards
Yeah, literally a poolside podcast. Love it. The boys are playing.
00:04:39
Felicia Devine
So stay tuned for our November playlist.
00:04:39
Natalie Richards
going to be so funny.
00:04:44
Felicia Devine
oh
Jean's Humorous Antics and Growing Independence
00:04:45
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:04:45
Natalie Richards
Okay, so I have some really funny things that Jean has done this week that I have to share because they're just hilarious.
00:04:52
Felicia Devine
Oh no, Jean.
00:04:53
Natalie Richards
One of them is just funny because of who we are.
00:04:54
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:04:57
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:04:57
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:04:59
Natalie Richards
He was sitting on the couch he was like, oh, mama, I have a boo-boo. I have a boo-boo. Like, it's really bad. And I go, I go, well, oh, and he said, he goes, I need to see a doctor.
00:05:12
Natalie Richards
And I was like, what? Like, you don't even go to a normal doctor. Like, what are you talking about?
00:05:16
Felicia Devine
You've never been to a doctor in your life.
00:05:19
Natalie Richards
Holistic nurse practitioner. Like, you know.
00:05:25
Natalie Richards
He's like, how do you know that you need a doctor for your boo-boo? And then I go, you know, mommy's a doctor, right? And he goes, no, you're not.
00:05:34
Felicia Devine
Oh, oh no.
00:05:35
Natalie Richards
I said, yeah, I am. he goes, no, you're not. like, Jean, do you see, do you not see like when you're at the office that I like actually have patients?
00:05:41
Felicia Devine
Gina's gaslighting you.
00:05:46
Natalie Richards
He goes, no, you're not a doctor. Like you, little stinker.
00:05:51
Felicia Devine
Oh my goodness.
00:05:53
Natalie Richards
your dad's rubbing off on you.
00:05:55
Felicia Devine
Oh my goodness. That is funny. Now, wait, did Kyle, did Kyle grow up going to a chiropractor?
00:06:01
Natalie Richards
No, no, I don't even, i don't think Kyle always jokes with me.
00:06:02
Felicia Devine
No, neither did Dan.
00:06:09
Natalie Richards
but but We'll be around people and he goes, does anybody know a good chiropractor?
00:06:15
Felicia Devine
Kyle's like, oh, my neck. Does anybody know a good chiropractor?
00:06:16
Natalie Richards
and everybody is looking at him like, what is it? Like, isn't your wife a chiropractor? And he just thinks it's the funniest thing in the world. but so i think these he thinks he he thinks he has jokes.
00:06:23
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh. He thinks he's a jokester. Mm.
00:06:29
Natalie Richards
So that's, I think it's rubbing off on Gene, but whatever.
00:06:32
Felicia Devine
So now Jean's like, Mama, do you know a good doctor?
00:06:32
Natalie Richards
So that was so funny.
00:06:36
Felicia Devine
Wait, did Jean call you Mama?
00:06:39
Natalie Richards
it's It's mom now.
00:06:41
Felicia Devine
oh oh
00:06:41
Natalie Richards
he He like runs around and says, mom, mom. the mama phase went by real fast. It doesn't call me mommy. It's straight up mom.
00:06:50
Felicia Devine
Wow. Mom. Wow.
00:06:52
Natalie Richards
Just mom.
00:06:52
Felicia Devine
He's an adult.
00:06:53
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:06:54
Felicia Devine
if
00:06:54
Natalie Richards
Practically. Three years old. Thinks
Toddler Speech and Motor Skills
00:06:56
Natalie Richards
he's an adult.
00:06:56
Felicia Devine
I...
00:06:57
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:06:58
Felicia Devine
I can't get Seb to call me anything. All he says is da-da.
00:07:00
Natalie Richards
Really?
00:07:02
Felicia Devine
He's like, da-da this, da-da that.
00:07:03
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:07:04
Felicia Devine
And I'm just like, whoa, homie, who birthed you?
00:07:08
Natalie Richards
For real, do you know what I went through?
00:07:10
Felicia Devine
Yes. I'm like, just say it and he goes, I'll be like, where's mama? And he'll look for Dan and he'll go, da-da.
00:07:16
Natalie Richards
Oh, my God.
00:07:18
Felicia Devine
I'm like, oh, this is funny. This is real funny.
00:07:22
Natalie Richards
He thinks he's funny. Does he say any like animal sounds?
00:07:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:07:25
Natalie Richards
When Gene was one, you i was like, we were rattling through all the animal sounds.
00:07:26
Felicia Devine
No, he doesn't.
00:07:31
Natalie Richards
It was hilarious.
00:07:33
Felicia Devine
No, is not on the, the like phonics train. Like he is, he's on the motor train and he's like full on like doing all the motor things.
00:07:38
Natalie Richards
It's okay.
00:07:41
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:44
Felicia Devine
And then I think the, the verbiage will catch up, but oh yeah.
00:07:48
Natalie Richards
It's fallen to the wayside, and it will.
00:07:50
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:51
Natalie Richards
Gene was the opposite.
00:07:52
Felicia Devine
Which like,
00:07:52
Natalie Richards
He was not the and motor. He still isn't the motor control king.
00:07:55
Felicia Devine
mm-hmm.
00:08:00
Natalie Richards
did
00:08:00
Felicia Devine
Sep is throwing fastballs.
00:08:00
Natalie Richards
Did I? Stop.
00:08:03
Felicia Devine
No, I kid you not.
00:08:04
Natalie Richards
Oh, my God.
00:08:05
Felicia Devine
This kid has an arm on him.
00:08:07
Natalie Richards
Oh, my God.
00:08:07
Felicia Devine
He was throwing fastballs before he could walk. He would stand up and just whip a ball as fast as he could.
00:08:12
Natalie Richards
Oh, my God.
00:08:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Now he's walking.
00:08:14
Natalie Richards
Did I tell you? I tell you what Gene's estimated height is supposed to be?
00:08:19
Felicia Devine
No.
00:08:22
Felicia Devine
Wait, reference?
00:08:23
Natalie Richards
Do you even?
00:08:24
Felicia Devine
Reference how tall you and Kyle are again.
00:08:26
Natalie Richards
Okay, I'm six foot and Kyle is six six.
00:08:30
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:08:30
Natalie Richards
So then when you, but you can like take their two and a half year old height and then like do some calculation online.
00:08:36
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:08:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:39
Natalie Richards
You can, there's a few different ways. You can double it at two and a half, I think. Or there's like these different calculators you can put it in with like the parent's height and the two and a half year old height.
00:08:50
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:08:51
Natalie Richards
Are you ready for that?
00:08:54
Felicia Devine
What is it?
00:08:55
Natalie Richards
It said six eleven
00:08:57
Felicia Devine
What?
00:08:58
Natalie Richards
six eleven Like, how am I going...
00:09:00
Felicia Devine
He's not going to fit in a normal car.
00:09:02
Natalie Richards
no Like, how do you actually live your life at six eleven
00:09:07
Felicia Devine
That's a disability.
00:09:08
Natalie Richards
Like, Kyle's 6'6", and that's, like, that's a lot.
00:09:11
Felicia Devine
It's a lot. That's a lot of limb.
00:09:13
Natalie Richards
And even if even if the estimate is off, like, okay, so he's 6'8".
00:09:14
Felicia Devine
No way. eleven
00:09:19
Natalie Richards
Like, he's still... But God forbid it's off in the other direction.
00:09:23
Felicia Devine
no way
00:09:26
Natalie Richards
And he's like seven, two
00:09:27
Felicia Devine
And he's seven. He's in the circus. He's cast in the circus.
00:09:33
Natalie Richards
The other problem is he's not coordinated enough to like, and I don't want him to play basketball.
00:09:36
Felicia Devine
Oh, the poor kid.
00:09:39
Natalie Richards
Like that's a no.
00:09:39
Felicia Devine
No, but honestly, you don't even have to be coordinated when you're seven feet.
00:09:43
Natalie Richards
You don't, you just reach up and you just put the ball in the basket.
00:09:43
Felicia Devine
You don't. You're just, you literally just flick other people over. Oh my gosh. I didn't know he was going to be that tall. Oh,
00:09:54
Natalie Richards
It's like, it's frightening me a little bit, but it's going to be fine. He's going to be great. He's going to be Gene, Gentle Giant.
00:09:58
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:10:00
Natalie Richards
And yes, we're working on it.
00:10:00
Felicia Devine
Gene the Gentle Giant, but we have to get him a little bit more coordinated. Because then he can get some big contract, a sports contract.
00:10:06
Natalie Richards
He's getting better. i know I'm feeling, I'm feeling swimming and rowing.
00:10:12
Felicia Devine
Oh. oh
00:10:14
Natalie Richards
Rowing.
00:10:14
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:10:14
Natalie Richards
You're like, really, it's like advantageous to be really, really lanky and tall.
00:10:18
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:10:18
Natalie Richards
So I'm, that's kind of what I'm thinking.
00:10:18
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:10:22
Felicia Devine
Wow. And you guys live near a lake and you have a, oh, he could do.
00:10:24
Natalie Richards
We live near, yeah, near a river.
00:10:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:10:26
Natalie Richards
yeah. yeah
00:10:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:10:28
Natalie Richards
So, yeah, the Rock River has like an actual rowing team.
00:10:28
Felicia Devine
Wait, is Rockford have a river? Is that it?
00:10:32
Felicia Devine
Oh, oh, okay.
00:10:33
Natalie Richards
the Yeah, they have like a regatta every year.
00:10:36
Felicia Devine
oh
00:10:37
Natalie Richards
So like, it's possible.
00:10:38
Felicia Devine
yeah.
00:10:38
Natalie Richards
It's possible.
00:10:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:10:40
Natalie Richards
So we'll see.
00:10:40
Felicia Devine
Seps leaning, Seps leaning more like ball sport.
00:10:41
Natalie Richards
Isn't that so funny?
00:10:43
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:10:44
Natalie Richards
Yes, he'll be a baseball player. but That was so cute.
00:10:46
Felicia Devine
Which is so lame.
00:10:47
Natalie Richards
You guys went to the baseball game. Okay.
00:10:49
Felicia Devine
i had to get a baseball hat because I'm like, now I'm a baseball mom. He's won and now I'm a baseball mom.
00:10:54
Natalie Richards
He's already showing signs. He's already showing signs.
00:10:56
Felicia Devine
He, yeah, he's like very into anything that he can throw. And all things are throwable if you allow them to be.
00:11:04
Natalie Richards
Yes. Oh, they sure are.
00:11:07
Felicia Devine
So we're in for it.
00:11:09
Natalie Richards
i pray for your household.
00:11:12
Felicia Devine
Honestly, he's throwing like a real baseball right now. And I'm like, we shouldn't have this inside.
00:11:15
Natalie Richards
Oh, my God.
00:11:17
Felicia Devine
I didn't know there were indoor and outdoor toys when you're a one-year-old, but I guess there are.
00:11:17
Natalie Richards
No. Right. Apparently there are. I'm going to learn a lot of things in the next couple of years, Felicia.
00:11:21
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. I can't get over the Jean Height thing.
00:11:27
Natalie Richards
I can't, I know.
00:11:28
Felicia Devine
I don't think I know anyone that's six eleven
00:11:31
Natalie Richards
I don't either. I've never encountered anybody that tall.
00:11:35
Felicia Devine
I dated a guy that was 6'9", and that was just like, oh.
00:11:37
Natalie Richards
Oh, that's right. That's right. It's like a lot. Even being six foot and Kyle being six, six, I'm like, you're really tall.
00:11:41
Felicia Devine
It is a lot.
00:11:46
Felicia Devine
Well, and then, well, thank God.
00:11:46
Natalie Richards
Well, now Kyle's 6'5". He's 6'5".
00:11:49
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:11:50
Natalie Richards
From all the times he jumped out of an airplane, he got compressed.
00:11:50
Felicia Devine
His, his.
00:11:53
Natalie Richards
and He lost an inch in this fight.
00:11:56
Felicia Devine
He lost a whole inch. Well, good thing Gene's mom is a doctor and can keep his spine straight.
00:12:01
Natalie Richards
Thank God. i'm an app i'm but I'm not a real doctor.
00:12:08
Felicia Devine
But it'll have good posture because one of my pet peeves about some tall people is they don't they don't stand up.
00:12:09
Natalie Richards
and will.
00:12:13
Natalie Richards
Yeah, they stand like this. They're all hunched over.
00:12:15
Felicia Devine
Well, and honestly, I'm not at tall. I'm not that tall, so I have nowhere to speak about. I mean, if you had to bend down to talk to people, that would be annoying.
00:12:22
Natalie Richards
that would That would actually be really annoying.
00:12:23
Felicia Devine
Oh, can you get a – my God.
00:12:25
Natalie Richards
Can you imagine?
00:12:26
Felicia Devine
He's actually going to be, like, huge.
00:12:30
Natalie Richards
but can you hear Kyle in the
Humor in Parenting: Ranger Panties and Potty Training
00:12:32
Felicia Devine
I can see Kyle walking in his Ranger panties.
00:12:34
Natalie Richards
head?
00:12:34
Natalie Richards
Kyle laughing. He's with Gator.
00:12:37
Felicia Devine
Oh, Natalie.
00:12:38
Natalie Richards
He is wearing Ranger panties. What?
00:12:40
Felicia Devine
Natalie, I have someone I care for in my office. Her husband, because she listened to the episode, her husband was like, he wears Ranger panties.
00:12:48
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:12:52
Natalie Richards
It's a thing. like It's an actual yeah it's like a it's a army ranger thing.
00:12:53
Felicia Devine
Is it a military thing?
00:12:57
Natalie Richards
They call them...
00:12:57
Felicia Devine
Okay. Okay.
00:12:58
Natalie Richards
Kyle was a but then in the army as ranger. and like They have their ranger battalion like on their ranger panties. like It's a thing.
00:13:09
Natalie Richards
and This is what they were they like work out in them.
00:13:09
Felicia Devine
Yeah, because, yes, they wear they wear them around the house, the chores.
00:13:13
Natalie Richards
They do all of their...
00:13:16
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:13:17
Felicia Devine
Oh, my gosh.
00:13:18
Natalie Richards
It's a thing. so He has multiple versions of Ranger panties.
00:13:22
Felicia Devine
Indoor panties, outdoor panties, work panties, play panties.
00:13:27
Natalie Richards
So he, yeah, like they just, it's funny. So it's just like these macho men who are, yeah.
00:13:34
Felicia Devine
And these little Sophie shorts. Yeah, she was telling me when she was in the office this week, she was like, oh my gosh, I was laughing so hard because my husband also wears Sophie shorts everywhere.
00:13:36
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:13:44
Felicia Devine
And I was like, I thought that was a Kyle thing. It's not a Kyle thing. It's an every every military thing.
00:13:48
Natalie Richards
No.
00:13:51
Natalie Richards
It's really funny.
00:13:52
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:13:53
Natalie Richards
Yeah. So like they're called ranger panties because that's what they originated from because the rangers, they have them like embroidered practically like they have their battalion embroidered on them.
00:13:54
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:14:01
Felicia Devine
Honestly,
00:14:05
Felicia Devine
sophi Sophie business is is thriving because of the military.
00:14:11
Natalie Richards
Thriving. isn
00:14:12
Felicia Devine
Target audience.
00:14:12
Natalie Richards
have a and They have a military contract.
00:14:16
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh. Should we be sponsored by Sophie?
00:14:18
Natalie Richards
Maybe. Our merch.
00:14:20
Felicia Devine
We got to get our first sponsor.
00:14:22
Natalie Richards
We have to make functionally feral functionally feral ranger panties.
00:14:23
Felicia Devine
Our merch.
00:14:25
Felicia Devine
For all the husbands out there.
00:14:29
Felicia Devine
For all the listening husbands.
00:14:32
Felicia Devine
I think, I don't think, I don't know. Dan might wear a ranger panty. Should I get him one?
00:14:36
Natalie Richards
I feel like he would. I think but we'll make this happen.
00:14:38
Felicia Devine
I could try it. Yeah, I could try it. I could try him on a ranger panty.
00:14:42
Natalie Richards
Kyle also wears like a medium. I'm pretty sure they're unison.
00:14:48
Natalie Richards
Like a women's medium. Like, I can't wear them. not
00:14:56
Felicia Devine
Oh, they're too tiny for you. Wait, g does Jean have his first set of ranger panties?
00:15:00
Natalie Richards
I've tried to find him short shorts. He has some. he has, like, a blue and white stars that he wore on the 4th of July.
00:15:09
Felicia Devine
Is he potty trained?
00:15:09
Natalie Richards
So, no.
00:15:11
Felicia Devine
No. When does that happen?
00:15:13
Natalie Richards
and I mean, it should be happening right now. I just...
00:15:18
Natalie Richards
one of those things that it takes a lot of effort for boys.
00:15:21
Felicia Devine
I heard. Did I hear correctly that boys, boys are harder? Yeah.
00:15:25
Natalie Richards
I'm telling myself that. I don't know.
00:15:27
Felicia Devine
so
00:15:27
Natalie Richards
To make me feel better.
00:15:28
Felicia Devine
We don't know the facts.
00:15:28
Natalie Richards
i don't know. I'm not really
00:15:30
Felicia Devine
This is not a factual podcast. These are our opinions. That's a disclaimer.
00:15:37
Natalie Richards
I'm pretty sure boys are harder because that's what tend that's what i tend to see
00:15:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah, that's what I've heard.
00:15:45
Natalie Richards
From most people. Yeah.
00:15:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:15:48
Natalie Richards
That's just funny. like i'm I'm really going to try. Like, I just have to sit down and actually go like make him do it consistently.
00:15:56
Felicia Devine
Don't you just like have them be naked for like three days straight?
00:15:59
Natalie Richards
You could. You could, but I'm never home for three days.
00:16:02
Felicia Devine
No, but you could, oh, you could be at the lake for three days.
00:16:03
Natalie Richards
That's the problem. We could be at the lake for three days and then my mom would be psychotic about him peeing in the corner of her lake house.
00:16:12
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Is your mom up there this weekend? Your mom and dad?
00:16:16
Natalie Richards
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:16
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Have fun.
00:16:18
Natalie Richards
My parents are, and my cousin from Nashville, she came up here with her baby, her one-year-old.
00:16:25
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah.
00:16:25
Natalie Richards
So it's kind of fun. Yeah, it's fun. We used to come up here with their family for like 30 years, like my whole my whole life.
00:16:27
Felicia Devine
That's awesome.
00:16:35
Natalie Richards
We would go and rent places up here.
00:16:36
Felicia Devine
Oh, I didn't know this was the lake you've been coming to.
00:16:37
Natalie Richards
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:39
Felicia Devine
oh
00:16:40
Natalie Richards
Kyle's coming in the door.
00:16:44
Felicia Devine
He knows we're talking about him.
00:16:44
Natalie Richards
think
00:16:47
Natalie Richards
What are you going to do, Kyle? We're talking about you and your ranger panties. hand He goes, these are that short.
00:16:59
Natalie Richards
These are full, like, four inches, probably. oh those are fives.
00:17:02
Felicia Devine
Are they the Bermuda edition?
00:17:05
Natalie Richards
The Bermuda. there Are those your soft-leat ones? It's like a ah ah workout program, a soft, softly workout program. So they make shorts.
00:17:15
Natalie Richards
It's what? It's a cult. He says to be exact, softly exercise cult as he's pouring himself at Tito's.
00:17:19
Felicia Devine
Oh. Oh, wow.
00:17:28
Natalie Richards
Cranberry juice, pardon.
00:17:28
Felicia Devine
It's 11 a.m.
00:17:30
Natalie Richards
I'm sorry.
00:17:31
Felicia Devine
It's 10 a.m. for Natalie.
00:17:34
Natalie Richards
He's on vacation. Okay.
00:17:36
Felicia Devine
There's no rules at the lake.
00:17:36
Natalie Richards
Anyway, we'll see. if We'll see if we keep this part in.
00:17:40
Felicia Devine
Right, right. We might delete, delete.
00:17:42
Natalie Richards
Delete. Now that we know how to delete sections.
00:17:47
Felicia Devine
Oh my goodness.
00:17:47
Natalie Richards
Now Felicia goes, oh, I just saw Kyle go by.
00:17:53
Natalie Richards
oh he's so funny. Okay. So he's got a five inch soft leet short on today, which the Ranger panties are what?
00:18:00
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:18:02
Natalie Richards
They're like two? Two inches. Two inch in panties.
00:18:05
Felicia Devine
Whoa, so hes he's really going to screw up his tan lines.
00:18:08
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:18:10
Natalie Richards
He says, they have a liner so my junk doesn't hang out. Okay, that's good.
00:18:14
Felicia Devine
wait, they have a liner or just the soft lead.
00:18:16
Natalie Richards
Those particular ones. those pretty
00:18:17
Felicia Devine
and
00:18:20
Natalie Richards
No free shows. You got to pay for that is what he said.
00:18:25
Felicia Devine
Not until we're sponsored.
00:18:25
Natalie Richards
something So funny. Do you have to take a shower right now? Okay. Can you just go sit in the corner and drink your drink quietly for a moment? ah ah You're going to leave?
00:18:37
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay. Okay, we'll cut some of that up. We'll leave some of it.
00:18:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Oh, so funny.
00:18:46
Natalie Richards
Okay, so, oh my gosh, I haven't even gotten to my second funny point.
00:18:50
Felicia Devine
Jean's story.
00:18:52
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh. Okay, so we were laying down to go to bed the other day and I'm reading him a book really nicely and he's sitting there, you know, listening to the book, right?
00:18:58
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:19:05
Natalie Richards
And he is doing something. He's like fiddling with something. And I'm like trying to figure out because he has his blanket over him he's like fiddling with something like, what are you doing? And I realized he like has his hand, like trying to get his diaper open, but his hand is like in his pants.
Diaper Challenges and Brand Experiences
00:19:24
Natalie Richards
And then before I know it, right as I realized before I know what he's doing, he takes his hand out, slaps it on my face. Yeah.
00:19:34
Natalie Richards
And he goes, mama, mama. I'm like, excuse me, your pee hand off of my face. He does it again.
00:19:43
Felicia Devine
oh
00:19:44
Natalie Richards
and he goes, here, here, it's for your poo poo.
00:19:45
Felicia Devine
no
00:19:47
Natalie Richards
Doesn't it feel better? I'm like, William, do not want your pee pee hand on my face.
00:19:53
Felicia Devine
Oh, no. Why is he doing that?
00:19:56
Natalie Richards
I have no idea. Like, where did he learn to do something ridiculous like that? to like yeah
00:20:03
Felicia Devine
Put his.
00:20:03
Natalie Richards
And to say, oh, doesn't it feel better? Does your boo-boo feel better, mama? Does it feel better? And he said it like four times. Does it feel better?
00:20:10
Felicia Devine
You said, no, it doesn't. It does not feel better.
00:20:11
Natalie Richards
so it's because a I did not have a boo-boo. And B, I do not want your pee-pee hand on my face. Thank you.
00:20:19
Felicia Devine
ah oh my God. Boys are wild.
00:20:21
Natalie Richards
Welcome to the craziness.
00:20:25
Felicia Devine
Does he take his diaper off?
00:20:27
Natalie Richards
He really doesn't.
00:20:29
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:20:29
Natalie Richards
But like he knows he knows how. If he really wanted to. like He knows how to do it.
00:20:33
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:20:33
Natalie Richards
He doesn't.
00:20:34
Felicia Devine
Does he wear like pull-ups or does he wear like a...
00:20:35
Natalie Richards
but i was like
00:20:38
Natalie Richards
He refuses.
00:20:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:20:39
Natalie Richards
I've tried to switch him over to pull-ups. Because he's so big. like He doesn't even fit in diapers practically anymore.
00:20:45
Felicia Devine
Really?
00:20:45
Natalie Richards
He will not wear them. He goes, no, no. I don't want that diaper. I want my other diaper.
00:20:50
Felicia Devine
Really?
00:20:50
Natalie Richards
like oh And he will scream. Until I put the normal diaper on him.
00:20:53
Felicia Devine
oh
00:20:55
Felicia Devine
Like a tab.
00:20:56
Natalie Richards
We need to be done with these things. Yeah. Like we've got to be done because he'll go on the toilet, but like i have to then take his normal diaper off.
00:21:00
Felicia Devine
Oh, you have to potty train. oh he will.
00:21:04
Natalie Richards
I can't just like use the pull up, you know, like it's such a pain in the butt.
00:21:07
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:21:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:21:10
Natalie Richards
So he'll go like, he'll poop and pee on the toilet. Then it's fine. But.
00:21:16
Felicia Devine
I put Sepp in pull-ups when he was like eight, seven months old, eight months old. They make like a – yeah, they make a pull-up, like a size three pull-up because I think that's when they start being like alligators and rolling off the changing table and
00:21:22
Natalie Richards
Oh, you did.
00:21:26
Natalie Richards
oh
00:21:31
Natalie Richards
They do. They do.
00:21:33
Felicia Devine
And so I was like, how do I beat this? So I put them in pull-ups.
00:21:35
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:21:36
Felicia Devine
They're way more expensive at that age or like that size.
00:21:38
Natalie Richards
Yes, they are. Mm-hmm.
00:21:40
Felicia Devine
So I only used them for a handful of months when he was like in that rolling phase.
00:21:42
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. When he was alligator rolling.
00:21:46
Felicia Devine
but yes, so Sep Sep like used to do the alligator thing and now he doesn't anymore.
00:21:47
Natalie Richards
my god.
00:21:51
Felicia Devine
So i'm like, oh, you're going in like normal diapers again. Cause it's, I don't want to say half the price, but it's like significantly cheaper.
00:21:57
Natalie Richards
Well, it's probably very close. Yeah.
00:21:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. And I put him in, I put him in coterie.
00:22:00
Natalie Richards
Very close.
00:22:02
Felicia Devine
He likes those, but he didn't fit in those early on that, that like dimension wasn't for him.
00:22:03
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just. Yeah, because they were. but Sometimes it's so funny. There are certain diapers that's like, ah how do you make this fit on this kid?
00:22:16
Felicia Devine
Absolutely not. He blew out. And no matter what diaper I put him in as a kid, he blew out every day. Every poop, he blew out.
00:22:21
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Oh my gosh.
00:22:23
Felicia Devine
Literally every diaper for months.
00:22:26
Natalie Richards
I don't understand it.
00:22:27
Felicia Devine
I didn't either. Now we don't have that problem. Like he doesn't like have any external leakage, but man, it was every single day, Natalie.
00:22:31
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:22:37
Natalie Richards
That is awful.
00:22:37
Felicia Devine
Like I might as well have been doing cloth diapers because I was cleaning all his clothes as if they were a cloth diaper.
00:22:42
Natalie Richards
to Oh my God.
00:22:43
Felicia Devine
Like we would hang out his clothes every day because we'd have to sun bleach him every outfit. Well, if he had like a poop, but yeah, it was crazy.
00:22:52
Natalie Richards
had a blowup up Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:53
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:22:54
Natalie Richards
Oh, that's just too much.
00:22:54
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:22:56
Felicia Devine
I know.
00:22:56
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:22:56
Felicia Devine
It was absolutely ludicrous.
00:22:57
Natalie Richards
Jean was like allergic to most of the diapers. You get, you get a rash.
00:23:00
Felicia Devine
and
00:23:01
Natalie Richards
So we use the thrive market ones and i love them.
00:23:04
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah.
00:23:06
Natalie Richards
And they're like very inexpensive.
00:23:06
Felicia Devine
Those are what you had me get.
00:23:08
Natalie Richards
Yeah. yeah
00:23:10
Felicia Devine
But I had to stop of getting them because they sold out of or they like didn't have any in stock of his size.
00:23:10
Natalie Richards
But the coterie is very nice.
00:23:15
Natalie Richards
Oh, guys. They did.
00:23:17
Felicia Devine
Uh-huh.
00:23:17
Natalie Richards
That did happen for a little while. Mm-hmm.
00:23:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. And then we got we got my sister using them. So my sister uses those on her son too.
00:23:22
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:23:24
Felicia Devine
I remember you told us about those. so
00:23:26
Natalie Richards
the
Kitchen Mishaps: Espresso and Latte Chaos
00:23:26
Natalie Richards
I'm dying.
00:23:27
Felicia Devine
Okay, what's your next...
00:23:28
Natalie Richards
Can you tell me what you're drinking today? Because we have got to talk about the stories that you posted the other day, the chaos of trying to make raw egg latte with a baby in your hands.
00:23:40
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:23:46
Felicia Devine
Okay, let's start with what I'm drinking today because it's actually trash. I hate it.
00:23:54
Felicia Devine
i am so mad at myself, but I already made it and I feel like I need to drink it.
00:23:57
Natalie Richards
You have to.
00:23:59
Felicia Devine
So I did like an espresso, like I did a, I don't even know, like I made a coffee and then I put my protein powder in it and then I used a, like a fork to spin it around and mix it, but it didn't dissolve all the way.
00:24:14
Natalie Richards
So it's skunky. Ew.
00:24:17
Felicia Devine
So it's literally like I'm getting like like pockets of powder. It's disgusting.
00:24:23
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:24:23
Felicia Devine
I don't have one of those blendy sticks anymore. It broke.
00:24:27
Natalie Richards
Just hop on Amazon.
00:24:27
Felicia Devine
Like what a whisker.
00:24:29
Natalie Richards
Yes, like a little, yeah.
00:24:29
Felicia Devine
i know. I know. They're $4. I should have got one.
00:24:33
Natalie Richards
Yes, they're the best.
00:24:34
Felicia Devine
So it's like powdery. And then I added milk to it and then ice. So it's supposed to be like an iced protein coffee. It's terrible. It's terrible.
00:24:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:24:44
Felicia Devine
Absolutely.
00:24:44
Natalie Richards
Oh, awful.
00:24:45
Felicia Devine
So I hate it. Anyway, this week I was like, oh because we filmed and recorded about our coffees, I'll go on stories on Instagram and make a latte in real time so people can see what we're doing.
00:25:01
Natalie Richards
Logical.
00:25:02
Felicia Devine
playing
00:25:03
Natalie Richards
Logical. I love it.
00:25:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And I was like, oh, this will be quick and easy. It'll just take a couple minutes. I prepped all my ingredients. I had them all on the counter. I like pre-made my espresso. And I was like, here, like, let's do this.
00:25:17
Felicia Devine
And then Giuseppe was like, you can't put me down.
00:25:21
Natalie Richards
not. He's at that age.
00:25:22
Felicia Devine
Not, no, he's like, I want to be in the mix.
00:25:23
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:25:25
Felicia Devine
And I said, okay, you want to be in the cup? Okay. So I start making this latte and like from the get-go, it's just absolute mayhem. I'm spilling everything.
00:25:37
Felicia Devine
Egg is all over the counter. It's all over me. I'm shaking espresso left and right. It's all over my white shirt. It was just, I was doing things out of order. Natalie then corrected me and told me I should be doing things when it's still hot.
00:25:51
Natalie Richards
Definitely salt in the coffee while you're blending the egg.
00:25:58
Natalie Richards
Like to dissolve.
00:25:58
Felicia Devine
Okay, so give me the rundown of what like it should look like. Oh.
00:26:02
Natalie Richards
I would say, like in your case, you would do, whenever you put the sugar in, that's when you would put, you did later, and then it doesn't dissolve.
00:26:08
Felicia Devine
Which I accidentally did.
00:26:11
Felicia Devine
Yes. No. And then it wasn't very good. So really what it should be, it should be hot espresso, the egg yolk, salt and sugar.
00:26:15
Natalie Richards
No.
00:26:20
Natalie Richards
I would say, all together. Mm-hmm.
00:26:24
Felicia Devine
And then shake it when it's hot.
00:26:26
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:26:26
Felicia Devine
And then add ice and milk.
00:26:30
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:26:31
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:26:31
Natalie Richards
Correct.
00:26:31
Felicia Devine
Well, I didn't do that. And it wasn't very good.
00:26:34
Natalie Richards
It was, but it was so funny.
00:26:35
Felicia Devine
And it was the messiest object.
00:26:37
Natalie Richards
It was so funny to watch.
00:26:39
Natalie Richards
I loved it. This reminded me of your previous cooking videos that you, yes, that you used to post and they were hilarious.
00:26:45
Felicia Devine
Endeavors.
00:26:50
Felicia Devine
And honestly, like my kitchen experiences still look very similar. i just don't film it anymore because I don't have time. i'm like, there's no time to have all this filming
00:27:05
Natalie Richards
There's really not. and And to like actually cook something is hard enough.
00:27:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:27:09
Natalie Richards
Like, let's be real about that.
00:27:09
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:27:11
Natalie Richards
It's so hard.
00:27:11
Felicia Devine
And i I meal prep for Sep most of his stuff because he he's still – so we we never talked about this.
00:27:15
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:27:19
Felicia Devine
I started Sep on the GAPS diet as his solids introduction.
00:27:24
Natalie Richards
Yes.
GAPS Diet Meal Prepping and Cooking Lessons
00:27:25
Felicia Devine
so he's still getting like slow introductions because he started on the GAPS protocol. And if you're not familiar with that, the GAPS protocol is essentially like healing leaky gut in people who have like dietary concerns.
00:27:31
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:27:39
Felicia Devine
But you can start a baby on a GAPS protocol because essentially when they're born, their gut is still quote unquote leaky.
00:27:39
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:27:46
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And so as you start introducing foods, they're more reactive to things because they don't have like that nice gut lining or like nice immune response to allow for like food introductions.
00:27:47
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:27:56
Natalie Richards
right Yeah.
00:28:00
Felicia Devine
So like just this week I started introducing oats and he's almost 15 months.
00:28:06
Natalie Richards
And he's been eating solids for a long time.
00:28:08
Felicia Devine
oh yeah. He's been eating salad since he was seven months, I think.
00:28:09
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:28:12
Natalie Richards
And for many kids, that's what they start out on.
00:28:14
Natalie Richards
Like they're starting with grains and that's not necessarily the best.
00:28:15
Felicia Devine
Yes. Like cereals and oats and sugars. No. And so, yeah he's...
00:28:21
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:28:23
Felicia Devine
Anyway, so he's eating a different life like diet than we are. And so I have to do a lot of meal prep for him, which is a lot of footwork when I'm doing it.
00:28:28
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:28:34
Felicia Devine
But then like throughout the week, we can just like pull stuff out. But yeah, I mean, my kitchen experience is still just as chaotic, still just as messy, still just not as glamorous as it could be.
00:28:44
Felicia Devine
Like I still don't know how to cut an onion.
00:28:45
Natalie Richards
You need to find them. oh my God. You need to find some of them from long ago and repost them because they are so funny.
00:28:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah, I should. I should.
00:28:55
Natalie Richards
They're so funny.
00:28:55
Felicia Devine
Well, one time I made that risotto dish or no orzo. Don't get me wrong.
00:29:00
Natalie Richards
The Orzo.
00:29:00
Felicia Devine
I I'm not out here making risotto.
00:29:01
Natalie Richards
my God. It was the Orzo. Risotto is way harder.
00:29:03
Felicia Devine
I made orzo, which is like poor man's poor man's risotto. And I knocked over a plant while I was filming And the plant had like rocks on it. It was like a succulent. So it had like a rock top.
00:29:20
Felicia Devine
And rocks got in the this orzo dish and I didn't know it. And I fed it to my family. Like I fed it to Dan. I fed it to my brother and his wife. We're all sitting at the table and I chomp on a rock.
00:29:32
Felicia Devine
I literally chew on a rock.
00:29:35
Natalie Richards
Thank goodness your husband is a dentist.
00:29:35
Felicia Devine
And then...
00:29:38
Felicia Devine
I know. And I'm like, I can't be out here feeding people rocks for dinner.
00:29:39
Natalie Richards
o
00:29:42
Felicia Devine
Like that is just crazy.
00:29:45
Natalie Richards
Okay, back up just a little bit more. When we were roommates together,
00:29:50
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:29:54
Natalie Richards
cooked together, i will say.
00:29:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah. You were trying to teach me.
00:29:57
Natalie Richards
But with the super, I was trying to teach you how to cook.
00:29:57
Felicia Devine
You were giving me. Yeah.
00:29:59
Natalie Richards
Yes, yes.
00:30:00
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:30:01
Natalie Richards
So we would cook all of our meals as one. because
00:30:05
Felicia Devine
Natalie and I were partnership, a relationship.
00:30:08
Natalie Richards
We were a relationship. We'd go to the grocery store and we'd get our ingredients together and then we'd make our lunches together and we'd make our dinners together.
00:30:12
Felicia Devine
We'd shop together.
00:30:19
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:30:21
Natalie Richards
I was trying to teach you how to cook and then I gifted you spices your graduation.
00:30:27
Felicia Devine
I still use them. i used I used some of it yesterday. i did. I still have the spices, which like, I don't know.
00:30:33
Natalie Richards
That's so cute.
00:30:35
Felicia Devine
When do spices expire? Because that was six years ago. Do they expire?
00:30:37
Natalie Richards
That's a question I do not know the answer to. i have had things for very long time.
00:30:40
Felicia Devine
Well, you know what? Don't tell me.
00:30:42
Natalie Richards
Yeah,
00:30:43
Felicia Devine
Don't tell me because I'm still using the spices you gifted me for graduation.
00:30:45
Natalie Richards
I think it's fine. I think it's fine.
00:30:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah. i i don't know. I mean, i well this morning, Natalie, I made your eggs, your scrambled eggs that your grandma taught you how to make.
00:30:56
Natalie Richards
Oh, which are my grandma's eggs.
00:30:59
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:30:59
Natalie Richards
Yeah, yeah. It's like the low and slow melt the butter in the pan.
00:31:04
Felicia Devine
And like always be stirring.
00:31:05
Natalie Richards
And always be stirring the eggs so that they don't, there is nothing that actually curdles on the bottom of the pan.
00:31:06
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:31:12
Felicia Devine
No, Natalie, high maintenance eggs.
00:31:12
Natalie Richards
Like it only high maintenance, the highest maintenance eggs, but they are so worth it.
00:31:20
Felicia Devine
Delicious.
00:31:20
Natalie Richards
I made them this morning too.
00:31:21
Felicia Devine
So I'm trying to get Sup to eat eggs, but he's like weird. Anything that has egg in it, he'll spit it out. So I made him like meatballs one day.
00:31:29
Natalie Richards
Oh,
00:31:30
Felicia Devine
He knew there was a stinking egg in it and he he just spit it out.
00:31:33
Natalie Richards
that's funny.
00:31:35
Felicia Devine
So I've slowly been getting him. I mean, I think part of the game too with toddlers is you just have to like keep trying. And I'm not forcing him to eat them, but like you keep offering time and time and time and time and time again with gaps in between.
00:31:43
Natalie Richards
You do. Yep.
00:31:46
Natalie Richards
Yep. Yep.
00:31:48
Felicia Devine
So I just started to get him to like actually consume the egg. So this morning he had he had Natalie eggs with – shredded cheese over the top, cheesy eggs.
00:31:54
Natalie Richards
Great.
00:32:00
Felicia Devine
And then i put guacamole on top.
00:32:02
Natalie Richards
Oh, perfect.
00:32:03
Felicia Devine
And he was eating that up.
00:32:06
Natalie Richards
Very Arizona of you.
00:32:07
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Guacamole goes on truly everything.
00:32:11
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:32:12
Felicia Devine
If you can't get a baby to eat something, put guacamole on it.
00:32:15
Natalie Richards
ah ah For sure. and love that.
00:32:16
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:17
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:32:18
Felicia Devine
So.
00:32:18
Natalie Richards
I think like the baby eating thing is tough. We'll have to do like a whole episode on all of that because there's, there's a lot to it.
00:32:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:32:25
Natalie Richards
And now, and then as they get older, like there's days that Jean won't want to eat anything. And I just say, okay, okay.
00:32:31
Felicia Devine
Really? No.
00:32:33
Natalie Richards
You know, your body, I'm going to let you.
00:32:33
Felicia Devine
Does he drink? Does he drink cow milk?
00:32:38
Natalie Richards
He did only because I transitioned him after I stopped breastfeeding. He did formula for a little bit. I did like the A2, like the grass bed, Serenity Kids formula for a little bit.
00:32:50
Natalie Richards
And then I just didn't feel like making up formula bottles anymore. So then like to go to bed, he would have a bottle and then he would do cow's milk.
00:32:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:32:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:32:59
Natalie Richards
And he does still, like he he will request milk still.
00:33:03
Felicia Devine
Oh, he will. Okay.
00:33:03
Natalie Richards
And I'm just like, whatever. and don't even care.
00:33:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've i've given Sep like cow's milk sparingly here and there just so that he's like familiar with it.
00:33:11
Natalie Richards
Yeah. yeah
00:33:14
Felicia Devine
But mostly just like if he doesn't eat a great dinner, I'll just give him like two or three ounces of cow milk as like his little dessert just to get something in his belly.
00:33:21
Natalie Richards
Yes. It's a okay.
00:33:25
Felicia Devine
I don't know.
00:33:25
Natalie Richards
Yep. I think that's totally fine.
00:33:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:33:27
Natalie Richards
i I mean, I'm very particular about what I'm buying. So like it's the, it's a two organic grass fed milk if he's going to be drinking it.
00:33:31
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. Right. Right.
00:33:37
Natalie Richards
But yeah, yeah.
00:33:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:33:39
Natalie Richards
It doesn't seem to be an issue, at least for him. And I think there's,
00:33:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:33:43
Natalie Richards
it It does give them protein. Yeah, it can block some iron from absorbing, but like he's not eating his iron-containing foods around the milk.
00:33:54
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:33:54
Natalie Richards
like Whatever.
00:33:54
Felicia Devine
Right. It's because he's not eating foods.
00:33:57
Natalie Richards
and Right. We like
00:33:59
Felicia Devine
No iron to be absorbed if you don't consume any.
00:34:01
Natalie Richards
would be like we go he gets tested and everything and he's like flying colors on everything. So I'm kind of like, you know what? If he has days, he doesn't eat. I don't really care.
00:34:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:34:11
Natalie Richards
He's obviously growing. He's 100th percentile in everything.
00:34:13
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:34:14
Natalie Richards
So I'm like, you know what?
00:34:16
Felicia Devine
Right. He's going to be six eleven so maybe maybe he could skip some meals.
00:34:16
Natalie Richards
I don't need to force feed him. Yeah, i maybe. and
00:34:20
Felicia Devine
Okay, Jean.
00:34:23
Natalie Richards
He's just a monster, but he's so lean like he's lean. He doesn't have any fat on him.
00:34:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:34:28
Natalie Richards
He's pure muscle.
00:34:30
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:34:30
Natalie Richards
So he's ninety fifth percentile for weight being just muscle.
00:34:30
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:34:34
Felicia Devine
Oh, my gosh. Dense.
00:34:35
Natalie Richards
And bone. Like you can tell his bones are like, they're dense.
00:34:39
Felicia Devine
Dense.
00:34:40
Natalie Richards
hu
00:34:43
Natalie Richards
I can't wait to see what happens with that.
00:34:45
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh. I know we have a couple of years to see, but I didn't realize that that's what you did with, with estimated height.
00:34:49
Natalie Richards
Oh my God. yeah we'll see.
00:34:53
Felicia Devine
I didn't know that it was like a two and a half age projection.
00:34:56
Natalie Richards
I really didn't either. And Kyle, Kyle did it and. it's It's a thing.
00:35:01
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:35:01
Natalie Richards
i didn't really think to to do that, but yeah, it's so funny.
00:35:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
Holistic Pediatric Care and Health Sharing
00:35:05
Felicia Devine
Wait, so does Jean go to a pediatrician?
00:35:08
Natalie Richards
We, thankfully, around, not even around us, we travel an hour and 10 minutes to go to this holistic practice.
00:35:16
Felicia Devine
it
00:35:16
Natalie Richards
But I wanted to do that instead of just going to some random place. So it's worth it.
00:35:21
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:35:22
Natalie Richards
It's a whole practice that they... are just really holistic minded. They're not perfect, but it it's as good as we can get around here.
00:35:28
Felicia Devine
hu
00:35:32
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:35:32
Natalie Richards
And thankfully it's like Chicagoland. So there's a lot of options. There's a few different different offices.
00:35:38
Felicia Devine
yeah Yeah. We drive and.
00:35:39
Natalie Richards
But it's, there's practitioners.
00:35:42
Felicia Devine
Okay. We drive over an hour as well. yeah.
00:35:46
Natalie Richards
It's worth it.
00:35:47
Felicia Devine
And it's, it's this old clinic, but I'm like, honestly, don't care if they don't update as long as you keep your private policies.
00:35:53
Natalie Richards
I didn't write it.
00:35:56
Natalie Richards
Please.
00:35:57
Felicia Devine
That's fine. Don't corporate. ah What's the word?
00:36:00
Natalie Richards
No, dude don't incorporate.
00:36:00
Felicia Devine
Don't incorporate.
00:36:02
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:36:02
Felicia Devine
eat
00:36:03
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:36:03
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So yeah, we, we drive far as well, but yeah.
00:36:04
Natalie Richards
but Please. We're good.
00:36:08
Natalie Richards
Yep. It's worth it. Once you find a place that's. That's.
00:36:11
Felicia Devine
i tried I tried to get him into a new doctor.
00:36:11
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:36:14
Felicia Devine
and I shouldn't say new doctor, but I tried to get him into a different clinic that's like a little closer to us that still allows for like freedom of choice.
00:36:20
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:36:23
Natalie Richards
right
00:36:24
Felicia Devine
So I called before I had Giuseppe. And I said, oh, what are your protocols? Like, how do you get in as a new patient? Like, I'm about to have a baby next month, yada, yada. And they're like, oh, well, we're full.
00:36:35
Felicia Devine
We're not taking new patients. And I said, OK, that's fine. But like, he's not even here yet. Like, is there a wait list?
00:36:41
Natalie Richards
Right. Let's
00:36:42
Felicia Devine
what can i what can I do to like establish care here? i want to be here, OK?
00:36:46
Natalie Richards
do this. Uh-huh.
00:36:48
Felicia Devine
And the lady was like, oh, we're not accepting new patients and there's no wait list. And I was like, oh my goodness.
00:36:54
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:36:54
Felicia Devine
And I was trying to be like, oh, but like I refer a lot of families to you because that's where I send my families that want a different type of care.
00:37:01
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:03
Felicia Devine
So I've sent like dozens of people there. And I was trying to be nice about that being like, oh, you know, i refer a lot of people to you. Can you just like make an exception? And the lady was like, absolutely not.
00:37:15
Felicia Devine
And she didn't even ask my name. So like, who knows? I could have been like,
00:37:17
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:37:18
Felicia Devine
a pediatric neurosurgeon and she had no idea. Like who who's to say?
00:37:21
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:37:23
Felicia Devine
So I was like, okay, well, thank you. So i ended up getting in with this other clinic that's like so much further away and I've loved them. So I really don't have a reason to go anywhere else, but I would like to maybe establish care somewhere closer if I need to like take a sick kid somewhere.
00:37:31
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:37:38
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:37:40
Felicia Devine
So yeah,
00:37:40
Natalie Richards
Do they have the ability you can call? Like you can just call in for sick visits and stuff?
00:37:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:46
Natalie Richards
yeah yeah that's what we can do too.
00:37:46
Felicia Devine
So one time Sep had like a wheeze. He was like coughing and had like a, like a wheeze on inhale. So I called their emergency line and the doctor called me within minutes and was like, yeah, just like, let's wait and see.
00:37:52
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:37:57
Natalie Richards
Perfect.
00:37:57
Felicia Devine
And then if you want to get them in and I ended up getting them in like that Monday, but, he like gave me all the recommendations and it was like, perfect.
00:38:04
Natalie Richards
Perfect. Yeah, that's what they do too.
00:38:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:38:06
Natalie Richards
As long as you are like up to date on your well visit and stuff.
00:38:08
Felicia Devine
established. Yeah.
00:38:10
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:38:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. And so a year goes by. So I called this clinic before he was born. They said, no wait list, nothing. And I said, OK. right. Well, do you have anybody you recommend? And they're like, no.
00:38:22
Felicia Devine
And I said, OK. Like, it was not the most helpful call. So was like, OK. whatever. We'll go to this other clinic that's really far away and establish care there. And I've been so happy.
00:38:33
Felicia Devine
A year goes by. It's after his first birthday. i get a phone call from the first clinic and they're like, Hey, this is so-and-so's office.
00:38:40
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:38:42
Felicia Devine
Like we just saw that you were on the wait list and you've made it off. And I go what?
00:38:48
Natalie Richards
Oh, how funny.
00:38:49
Felicia Devine
There was a wait list. And I didn't even know she put me on it. I had no idea because she,
00:38:54
Natalie Richards
Maybe they just know that there's hardly any chance for a very long time.
00:38:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah, maybe. Or like she didn't want my hopes to get up and she was like, you have to go somewhere else.
00:39:02
Natalie Richards
Right. Right.
00:39:04
Felicia Devine
I don't know. So she's like, and it was a different person that called, but they were essentially like, hey, like you're off the wait Give us a call.
00:39:06
Natalie Richards
That makes sense.
00:39:11
Felicia Devine
We'll establish care. Great. So I call them back.
00:39:12
Natalie Richards
What?
00:39:14
Felicia Devine
And she goes, all right, so what we have to do for our protocol to like get you established at our practice is I'm going to mail you a new patient intake form. And I said, OK. And she says, what's a good address? And I was like, email address?
00:39:26
Felicia Devine
And she said, no, mailing address.
00:39:29
Natalie Richards
what
00:39:30
Felicia Devine
I was like, snail mail? And she was like, yeah, snail mail. OK. So they have to mail me a packet. I have to mail it back.
00:39:41
Felicia Devine
And then when I mail it back, they will reach out to me to it like book our first appointment.
00:39:46
Natalie Richards
Oh, wow.
00:39:47
Felicia Devine
I'm like, you're kidding me. This is 2025 and we're snail mailing?
00:39:50
Natalie Richards
The world works a little different these days.
00:39:51
Felicia Devine
Wow. And I was like, that and it took over two weeks for them to ship me the snail mail packet. I mean, I could have walked it there faster than two weeks.
00:40:05
Natalie Richards
Why are you just going to pick it up?
00:40:05
Felicia Devine
So it must have... It might have gone to like the state capitol to then ship back to me. It was crazy.
00:40:12
Natalie Richards
That's so silly.
00:40:12
Felicia Devine
So, so it's sitting on my fridge and I'm like, Oh, I just don't know. Like, I love the practice we're established with. I don't know if I even want to go through. So I don't know. I haven't decided, but it was just so like the, the process was so wild to me that I was like, is this worth it?
00:40:22
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:29
Natalie Richards
Oh, it's so funny. Do they take insurance?
00:40:31
Felicia Devine
Are we, no, but we don't have insurance.
00:40:33
Natalie Richards
No. yeah Oh, yeah. That's right. You have the health share.
00:40:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah. We have, yeah, we have health sharing. So like, doesn't really matter to me where we go.
00:40:38
Natalie Richards
Yeah. It doesn't matter. I know. And I don't, I don't care either. Like I'm, it's just funny that I go to a holistic dentist too.
00:40:43
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:46
Natalie Richards
And they also, like they never used to take insurance.
00:40:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:50
Natalie Richards
They do now. But when I went there, I just assumed I was going to be paying out of pocket. So I don't even care.
00:40:55
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:40:56
Natalie Richards
And they like sent me a bill and I paid it.
00:40:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:58
Natalie Richards
And they're like, oh, we submitted this to insurance. I don't know why they haven't paid it yet. i'm like, I don't honestly, I don't even care. Like, I don't do anything that my insurance actually pays for.
00:41:05
Felicia Devine
You're like, didn't even know. Mm-hmm.
00:41:08
Natalie Richards
So and we have like great insurance, but I don't do anything with insurance.
00:41:10
Felicia Devine
Now, and do you have insurance through Kyle's job?
00:41:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:15
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:41:15
Natalie Richards
So we have like really nice insurance because of that.
00:41:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:41:19
Natalie Richards
Like, thankfully, if something catastrophic would happen, That's fine. But like, it doesn't cover any of the things that I do.
00:41:24
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:41:26
Natalie Richards
It's not covering my acupuncture.
00:41:26
Felicia Devine
and That we do. Right.
00:41:28
Natalie Richards
It's not covering my, my holistic dentist. It's not covering the holistic pediatrician. It's not covering.
00:41:33
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:41:34
Natalie Richards
And that's all I do. I don't go to the doctor. I don't remember the last time I went to the doctor.
00:41:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I know. I don't even ask if they take insurance anymore when we go places because we just don't – we don't use traditional insurance.
00:41:42
Natalie Richards
No, I don't care.
00:41:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:41:45
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:41:46
Felicia Devine
And we had such success with our health sharing over the past couple of years. With my home birth, I had to – I injured my hand at work and I had to get like an MRI and go through all this stuff.
00:41:58
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah. Oh, my God.
00:42:00
Felicia Devine
And honestly, it was like so affordable.
00:42:01
Natalie Richards
I forgot about that.
Exploring Relaxation Therapies and Sound Baths
00:42:03
Natalie Richards
Yeah, that's great.
00:42:03
Felicia Devine
So affordable. It was like everyone else is being ripped off.
00:42:05
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:42:08
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:42:09
Felicia Devine
I kind of feel bad.
00:42:10
Natalie Richards
Yep. And that is exactly what's happening. If I didn't just, if I couldn't just get insurance through Kyle, I would ab absolutely not be even paying but whatever we pay, the $200 a month that we pay for for the insurance.
00:42:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah. you know
00:42:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:25
Natalie Richards
Like I would be doing something totally different because it just doesn't, it's not for our lifestyles.
00:42:28
Felicia Devine
yeah I know. It is.
00:42:32
Felicia Devine
no And again, like, we don't go places that take insurance.
00:42:32
Natalie Richards
It's great for other people.
00:42:36
Felicia Devine
Mm-mm.
00:42:36
Natalie Richards
No, and I'm not going to because I don't want to play the game.
00:42:41
Felicia Devine
I just booked myself a massage.
00:42:43
Natalie Richards
Did you?
00:42:45
Felicia Devine
And I hate being touched.
00:42:47
Natalie Richards
you really? oh my gosh.
00:42:48
Felicia Devine
I hate it. I hate being, I don't like getting pedicures.
00:42:50
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:42:51
Felicia Devine
I don't like getting massages. I don't like any, I don't like people touching me.
00:42:54
Natalie Richards
Really?
00:42:55
Felicia Devine
No, which is weird because I touch people every single day for a living.
00:42:56
Natalie Richards
Really? Yeah, that's really funny.
00:43:01
Felicia Devine
I don't have a problem touching people, but I don't like when people touch me.
00:43:04
Natalie Richards
Have you ever had acupuncture done?
00:43:06
Felicia Devine
No, but I, my associate for my birthday got me a gift card for acupuncture.
00:43:12
Natalie Richards
You have to do it. i
00:43:13
Felicia Devine
And I need to do it.
00:43:13
Natalie Richards
I went into acupuncture and I was like, you know, I'm just going to try it. Like what what is this really going to do for me? i don't know.
00:43:22
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:43:22
Natalie Richards
And I love it. It's like my non-negotiable. Like I have to go once a month.
00:43:27
Felicia Devine
Really?
00:43:28
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:43:28
Felicia Devine
Really?
00:43:28
Natalie Richards
I love it. Because she'll do like, she'll do so much stuff. Like she does the actual fire cupping and she'll do like full body gua sha scraping on my back.
00:43:35
Felicia Devine
Oh,
00:43:38
Natalie Richards
Like you should have seen my back a week ago.
00:43:40
Felicia Devine
oh you have a messed up act, too.
00:43:41
Natalie Richards
It was, It crazy. Like I still have bruises from the cup, but it's amazing.
00:43:48
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:43:50
Natalie Richards
Like you feel like there's certain needles that you feel that at least I feel more. and then I, I'm like so sensitive. I can't even have the electrode, like the electric put into the needle.
00:44:03
Natalie Richards
Cause I'm like, Oh no, turn it down, turn it down, turn down. I hate it.
00:44:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah. yeah
00:44:09
Natalie Richards
But it is really, really cool. Like the other day she put like 32 needles in me, which is like the match. She said it's a magic number of needles.
00:44:17
Felicia Devine
Oh,
00:44:18
Natalie Richards
And I slept the best I have slept in my life that night after the magic number of needles.
00:44:24
Felicia Devine
that's lovely. i need to book it.
00:44:27
Natalie Richards
It was, you have
00:44:27
Felicia Devine
i should, I should go on today and just book it for whenever I have the next availability.
00:44:31
Natalie Richards
to. It is beyond cool. I think you'll love it. Like it's subtle.
00:44:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:37
Natalie Richards
But it's more so like, oh my gosh, I just feel like things are flowing. It's amazing.
00:44:41
Felicia Devine
Ooh, I know. i really want to try it.
00:44:42
Natalie Richards
So I think you'll like it.
00:44:44
Felicia Devine
need to do it.
00:44:45
Natalie Richards
you The first time is a little bit weird because you're like laying in there with needles and you're like, can I move?
00:44:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:44:52
Natalie Richards
Like, am I? You get like maybe a little claustrophobic feeling.
00:44:54
Felicia Devine
What if there's a an emergency? Yeah.
00:44:56
Natalie Richards
Right. And then you're like, every time you move, you're like, oh, I feel that. Oh, I feel that. Oh, I can't. Like, I can't move hand.
00:45:03
Felicia Devine
How long are you laying there?
00:45:05
Natalie Richards
Sometimes like a half an hour.
00:45:07
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:45:08
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:45:09
Felicia Devine
So you like, it's like mandatory timeout.
00:45:12
Natalie Richards
Kind of. Yeah. And you can't, you literally are in a dark room, cannot move, no stimulation, a little music playing, but you have needles in you and you're hyper aware of the needles.
00:45:18
Felicia Devine
Wow. Yeah.
00:45:24
Felicia Devine
but That you have needles in you. It's like the the movie Saw.
00:45:26
Natalie Richards
at least I was.
00:45:29
Natalie Richards
I'm like,
00:45:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:45:30
Natalie Richards
okay, I can't move. I'm going to be fine. But I have to actually like get over this the first time.
00:45:33
Felicia Devine
hu
00:45:35
Natalie Richards
Like I was feeling, I was like a little claustrophobic for sure.
00:45:36
Felicia Devine
That is kind of spooky.
00:45:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:45:39
Natalie Richards
Where like, I kind of want to run away, but I'm going to lay here and I'm going to do this.
00:45:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:45:45
Natalie Richards
And then after, after the first time, I'm like, okay, it's fine.
00:45:48
Felicia Devine
You kind of got over it.
00:45:49
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:45:50
Felicia Devine
Ooh, there's a thoses are massage therapy clinic in our town that sound frequency healing.
00:45:57
Natalie Richards
Love it.
00:45:58
Felicia Devine
You, like, lay on a chair and you put on this headset and it, like, I want to say it vibrates and you hear the, like, diurnal beats and it's this, like, frequency healing and I want to try it so bad.
00:46:07
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:46:11
Natalie Richards
I would love that. We just did a sound bath last night.
00:46:13
Felicia Devine
I – did you?
00:46:14
Natalie Richards
Have you ever done a sound bath? Yeah.
00:46:16
Felicia Devine
uh – i in So I was in a salt cave and they did like sound bowls.
00:46:21
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:46:22
Felicia Devine
So like it wasn't considered sound bath, but it was kind of, but I've never done like an official one.
00:46:22
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:46:25
Natalie Richards
Yeah. But kind of.
00:46:28
Felicia Devine
Was it cool?
00:46:28
Natalie Richards
It is the best. I used to do them all the time up here at the lake.
00:46:30
Felicia Devine
Where'd you do that?
00:46:33
Natalie Richards
It's so funny. They have a sound bath and it's in like this spa place. And then they have an outdoor sauna and cold plunges outside.
00:46:40
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:46:42
Natalie Richards
So like and they do it all year round. So you can go you do the sound bath and then you go do your social sauna. And it's like a eight person sauna and cold plunge.
00:46:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:46:52
Natalie Richards
And you just like go back and forth in between the cold plunge and sauna. And then in the winter, they have fire pits and you can go in the snow and you can do all, all that stuff. It's really cool.
00:47:03
Felicia Devine
When I come visit, we'll have to go.
00:47:04
Natalie Richards
Yes, we'll do it. but Because the sound bath is, is like unreal.
00:47:07
Felicia Devine
So fun.
00:47:10
Natalie Richards
You're laying there and you're just listening to all the weird sound that's coming out of all these random instruments.
00:47:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:47:17
Natalie Richards
And it's, it's the coolest, very immersive.
00:47:21
Felicia Devine
Wow. when i was When I was pregnant, Dan used to play the crystal bowls for me.
00:47:25
Natalie Richards
Oh yeah.
00:47:26
Felicia Devine
i loved it. We would do like my hypnobirthing meditations and Dan would play the sound bowls and I loved it.
00:47:28
Natalie Richards
It's the best.
00:47:32
Natalie Richards
I want one. and need to get, is that just like, it, it just hits a different part of your, your body.
00:47:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:47:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Dan is so good at playing them.
00:47:40
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:47:42
Felicia Devine
It's like you have to have like a special touch.
00:47:42
Natalie Richards
Really?
00:47:43
Felicia Devine
I'm like okay at playing them, but Dan is like so good.
00:47:44
Natalie Richards
you
00:47:47
Felicia Devine
And I have, we have a crystal one and then we also have one that's like brass, I think it is.
00:47:51
Natalie Richards
yep
00:47:52
Felicia Devine
And he's so good. And when even like Sep was a baby baby, like newborn couple of weeks old, if he was like scream crying, Dan would play that and it would like settle him down.
00:48:00
Natalie Richards
That's such a good idea. I love that.
00:48:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah, yeah.
00:48:04
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:48:04
Felicia Devine
But they're fun.
00:48:04
Natalie Richards
Okay. I need to buy one.
00:48:06
Felicia Devine
I just, I would love to take like a class on how to actually play it.
00:48:06
Natalie Richards
I really need to get one. I've got to actually do it.
00:48:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:48:11
Natalie Richards
Yeah, there there are classes that can teach you how to do like all the different like frequencies of of sound and stuff.
00:48:14
Felicia Devine
Right, like lessons. Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah.
00:48:18
Natalie Richards
I don't
Episode Wrap-up and Teasers for Next Time
00:48:20
Natalie Richards
know. Okay, so we just talked for 15 minutes. I'm not.
00:48:24
Felicia Devine
About random things, yeah.
00:48:26
Natalie Richards
Practically nothing. Didn't even hit all my other bullet points.
00:48:33
Natalie Richards
Which is fine because now we have a whole other episode.
00:48:34
Felicia Devine
We didn't even get there.
00:48:36
Natalie Richards
It's so funny.
00:48:36
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. We'll just keep a list of bullet notes or bullet points going.
00:48:40
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh. of Random things we could talk about for 20 minutes.
00:48:43
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:48:44
Natalie Richards
Well, hopefully people like that.
00:48:44
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:48:48
Felicia Devine
Thanks for joining us this week as we kind of just chit-chatted and yapped and caught up.
00:48:50
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:48:54
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:48:55
Felicia Devine
we're We're excited for the next episode and you'll have to tune in to hear what we have to say.
00:48:59
Natalie Richards
Yeah. It's going to be exciting.