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Glick's Comedy Lounge: Trevor Clumper
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Tonight on Glick's Comedy Lounge, comedian Trevor Clumpner pulls up to unleash chaos, punchlines,and probably a few questionable life choices. Glick's Comedy Lounge-Comedy Unleashed
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We're hanging out tonight with, I find him to be funny. i Checking out his social media. ah and And a veteran of this great state, or the great United States of America, one and only Mr.
Comedian Trevor Klumpner Joins the Show
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Trevor Klumpner.
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Hey! Words are kicking my ass tonight. No, it's all right. No one ever gets it right. No one ever gets it right. It's fine. was i four people What did you say? Klumpner.
00:05:49
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No, that's exactly right. Boom, nailed it. You might be the first one I got right.
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You might be the first one that I've gotten right so far, but I've been kicking myself right in the dick with with some of these comedians' last names, and I'm just like, fuck it. I'm um'm a hillbilly from middle of nowhere-ass Ohio, and I'm going to wing it and and and just Hope for the best.
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So what's going man? How you doing? Good, good. Just enjoying, was it Wednesday? Yeah, this Wednesday nights. ah And just, ah yeah. You know, the amount of times I've gone on stage and been nervous I was going to get the comedian's name wrong, I could write a book.
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i i I used to be really good at it. I had a knack for it. I used to work for... um Well, I, I ain't ashamed of it. I used to work for Aaron's and, um, I, I just delivered furniture. It was, it was a nice little, uh, a little gig to have for a little while, but our, our, our MITs, our managers and trainees who did all the collections and stuff, they would come to me because they can never pronounce people's last names.
00:06:56
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And I would usually nail them on the head. Now that that little superpower is completely out the window. Now that I'm like, Oh, I'm interviewing people. And I, I got to make sure I don't look like an asshole and a offend them and say their name wrong.
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No one really cares. if you Comedians, they they're used to it. The amount of times I've seen people just blank and say something like Mr. Comedian or something like that, it's it's crazy. And then that person has to go on and be like, my name's Brad. Yeah. Right. I mean, I have kind of one of those last names, too. But yeah I've never been one to get offended. It's just like I get it. like Isn't Glick your last name?
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Yeah, Glick's my last name. And no one can get that right. Oh, God, I've heard it all. I've heard it all. Click. You ever get like Gleek? I've gotten Gleek. You know, the thing where they spit? Yeah.
00:07:46
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I actually just got that at work the other day. But I was like, oh, OK, whatever. i don't know how you got that, but cool. but but
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Um, no, it it's one of those things, you know, yeah if, if you've got a weird name or hard to pronounce name, you're probably used to it. There ain't no reason in getting, uh, getting, uh, offended over it at the end of the day.
00:08:10
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My girlfriend's gets her last name's Hermson and she, everyone gets that wrong. I can't like literally look, I, my favorite one was, uh, she was introduced once as Kate Adonis,
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Not even close. You're just giving up on life. Yeah. Different letter, different spelling. I don't think any of the same letters are present. Crazy. Yeah. Just screw it. Fuck it. I'm i'm done. I've given up on life. We're going to, we're going to completely rename you at this point.
The Stand-Up Comedy Journey
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Yeah. Shut up, Mandy. You're older than me.
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ah um Right out the gate, man. How long you, how long you been doing this crazy thing, stand up comedy? I never know anymore. ah i thought five years last year, but I guess it's five years this year. um Yeah, I think this July will be five years for me.
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Damn, you're almost up there. and what What is that? they're like god I had a buddy of mine tell me this. like Comedian years were like dog years. I can't remember what he said it was.
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TJ Miller always said it as like at five years is when you are figuring out like if I'm going to keep doing this or not. ah Ten years is when you like really start like figuring out your voice. And then, you know after that, that's, you know, you've obviously continued on, which I always thought was crazy because he said that five year thing to my friend Grizzly. ah And I was like two years in at that point.
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And I remember being like, I'll never quit. I'll never think about quitting. That's insane. And now that I'm nearing it, I'm like, oh, I get it now. I get it. This is hard.
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It's, you know, that's so funny. And that's why I don't do it. that's That's why I don't do it. I like to think I'm a funny guy. I like to say, think that I say some funny shit. I have no aspirations and no desire to get up on a stage and do what you guys do.
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For A, I'm terrified of public speaking. But B, i don't i don't handle I don't want to get up there and eat shit you know in front of a crowd. That's part of it.
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know um ah I like this. I can be in my i can do this And I can be right here in my bedroom. And if I, if I do a show and a show eats shit, I can pretend like nobody's seen it and nobody's ever going to watch it. Yeah. need to delete it.
00:10:31
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Yeah. Bye. Gone. Same rules as marriage. Yeah. Yeah. You can delete it. You can delete a marriage. It's awesome. You can delete a marriage as well. Yes. I have been there before. Unfortunately. ah you look You look like you're on your, like your eighth marriage. that That's the vibe you're giving me. Thanks. Yeah. I feel like it's something.
00:10:55
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I've only been married once, but in the last ah in the last year eight years or so since my divorce, I've ah've had some ah interesting relationships that have all just kind of panned out right here on this fun network.
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So, yeah, I feel like that. so everyone's got to watch you go through, like you know, Hatchet Lady, ICP Fan, you know, just all the different types of women you've been dating. All the all the levels of crazy. Yeah. Yeah.
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And now they're like, we don't know what to think. He's in a happy, healthy relationship. This is weird. Same, man. It's awesome. Never thought I'd get here.
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Stop, Mandy. Seven Hookers. That's a good band name. It's wild when, you know, when you finally yeah find that and they're like, wow, this so this is what a healthy relationship is like. And this is a new, interesting, kind of scary territory. But...
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I look at my past relationships. I've been in a bunch of them, but like when I think like the serious ones where like I, you know, was genuinely upset when, you know, they ended. ah I just think about like who I'm with now and just like the amount of, I wasn't willing to work on myself in past relationships and this, so i'm like, oh, this must be the person I'm with. Cause I'm actually like trying to be a better person with them.
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I don't know, just, just my two cents on that. That's 100% accurate. I mean, I think... also Also, I think I reached a point where, for me personally, I was already trying to do better and be better. And then when she came along, it was that extra encouragement and incentive. Like, keep up the good work. you know This is yeah is your reward. Don't fuck it up, dumbass.
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i I want to be the person she deserves. Exactly. Absolutely. How does how does she feel about your comedy? Is she big supporter? She's also a stand-up comedian. Oh, it's even better. Yeah, yeah. Makes it very easy. She understands. Yeah. Well, you know, it was it was hard in the beginning because we we both started kind of around the same time. ah So, like, sometimes ego would get in the way of stuff.
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um But we we've definitely worked on that. And and's it's it's's very easy now. Like, it's just, like, there's no problem whatsoever. She supports me. I support her I'll bring her with me if I can. She'll bring me with her if she can. You know, it's... We just look at each other as equals rather than hers, my competition, and vice versa.
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Yeah, exactly. you know it's one of those You guys both did it in the ah in that same world. you know If you succeed, she succeeds, and vice versa. Exactly, yeah. you Money's going to the same mouths. yeah And if one of you blow up, then well maybe you're you're always going to need an opener. so Exactly. Exactly. do you know who Mary Mack is?
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I have heard that name. She brings her husband along. Like he was for a while blowing up and then he was bringing her and then now she's blown up and now he's opening for her. i just think it's a funny like dichotomy with a relationship to have it switch back and forth like that.
00:14:13
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Yeah. I mean, no you you always hear and listen to a radio station out of, uh, out of Florida. It's one or two, uh, one or two five, the bone, uh,
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And the morning show, Calta is really good friends with with ah with a lot of comedians like April Macy and Bert and Robert
Trevor's Experience with Miss Pat
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Kelly and a bunch of other ones.
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And they always, he's had a few on there that are dating other comedians. yeah They're like, well, I'm blowing up. So she's just automatically coming with me anyways.
00:14:46
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You know, we see each other and vice versa. You know, ah so i think that's I think that's a great way to do it if you're going to, be with somebody in the same industry rather than trying to compete with each other.
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Well, fortunately she's actually funny, so it makes it easy. just just just like That's very helpful. Wait a minute. if i If I was dating an unfunny comedian, I don't know if I could do that.
00:15:14
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okay. i know who her husband is. Okay. i had to look. I know who she is. Yeah. I looked her up. Yeah. She's great. Yeah, I know. should Sometimes I don't recognize the comedian's name and then I see their face and I go, oh, yeah.
00:15:29
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No, that's that's awesome, man. um I see. And I know when you first reached out to me, one of the names that in you've opened up for a lot of people and one of the names that really jumped out at me because I freaking love her is Miss Pat.
00:15:46
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was just to see her. That was great. i was going to say, what was what was that like for you? I mean, because I know she's kind of – she's out there. She's hysterical. I love her to death.
00:15:57
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Let's see here. So, Miss Pat's very nice. I'll start by saying that before I say anything else. um ah she so So, the issue is is it's not with it's not with Miss pat The issue is that um Yeah, sometimes. if i'm now I wouldn't say outdo each other, but we definitely want to bring like the best that we can to each performance. And if it just so happens to outshine the other one, that's just bonus points.
00:16:25
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But yeah, so Miss Pat. ah She... She was very nice. um But the problem is so Skyline is a very small comedy club.
00:16:36
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Like, i think 180, 190 is the maximum seating. The green room is tiny. There's a couch and a chair. That's all that's really in there. I mean, there's a fridge and a TV and stuff, but I'm talking about like sitting area. And so Miss Pat brings...
00:16:52
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uh her makeup artist uh her opener um her hairdresser her merch person and i don't her assistant i think the other person was so i couldn't even get into the green room to really hang out so i was out on the floor the entire weekend Um, and i only talked to her maybe a couple of times.
00:17:14
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Um, but every time I talked to her, she was very sweet, very nice. Uh, cause I'm also a big fan of hers. I love miss Pat. She's so funny. Um, but my, I, I've never really opened for a predominantly black audience like that before that was new for me.
00:17:31
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um that I'm not for them. We'll just say that. um Which is fine. Which is fine. I know your audience. ah But I did have a lot of fun. It it was a good learning experience. and I didn't bomb or anything. It just it wasn't my best work.
00:17:46
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Yeah. well yeah and And that's something that you know doing this show, I've got to talk to other comedians about is not only knowing your room, but like knowing your location if you're on the road. Yeah.
00:18:01
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If your joke's leading one way and you're in California versus Texas, they're going to hit differently. Yes. I mean, even just city by city by city. Like Chicago, I've notoriously struggled in, but I can crush in Minneapolis.
00:18:18
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Don't know why.
00:18:22
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No, that's – I think that would be the – that would be the – the hardest thing in my opinion is just like you said, city to city, in crowd different and you know, you're not going to be, you're not, you're not going to be taken the same way in each city. So like, do you try to change yourself, change your, your set a little bit if you know the city and kind of know what you're getting into or. Yeah, I know I can get in any city. I know I can get away with ah some, um,
00:18:58
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What's the word I'm looking for? ah Religiously charged material, I guess.
Adapting Comedy for Different Audiences
00:19:04
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Not necessarily anti-religion, but just kind of like poking fun at it. I don't think like i can get away with that at like more rural locations, which stinks because I have so much material on it. Again, not making fun of it. just just not or Not like being like you're an idiot for believing in something. It's just like, isn't it weird that this is in the Bible? You know, just like stuff like that. Yeah, the observation stuff. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:19:28
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Yes. Uh, yeah. Some of the, um, be careful here. We get down to the Bible belt. If you haven't been down there yet. Yeah. They take that shit seriously. That goes from a guy who spent 10 years, uh, down in South Carolina. I'm like, wow, you guys are borderline, uh, culty.
00:19:45
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and Yeah. I think, I think in the South, I'll stick to the cities. I feel like I can get away with stuff a little more there. yeah Yeah, no, that's, that's awesome. Um, with With your comedy, speaking of your your style and your jokes, um how you know you're at that five-year mark. you know you're Like you said, you don't want to keep doing this. whether you know Are you starting to find your your niche? Are you more of a joke teller or a storyteller? Yeah.
00:20:14
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Yeah, I'm a 100% like a set up punchline guy. Just, I'm just very rapid fire joke, joke, joke, joke. joke Like um anytime I look at like, I've been going through old jokes and like breaking down my structure on them. to see like what's set up and what's punchline and like highlighting the differences. And it's just it's mostly punchline at this point, which is I like that stuff. I like to just be quick. um i And don't get wrong, I love storyteller comedians. I think mikeberg Mike Birbiglia is one of the best comedians working right now.
00:20:46
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ah But it's just it's not for me. anytime And if I do tell a story on stage, it's just it's punched up with so many jokes, you wouldn't even know it's a story at this point. It's a topic, essentially, I'm talking about now.
00:20:58
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you Well, and it's it's, it's, it's, I think it's a, I think it's an art to be a storyteller, especially in today's age where people are so used to the tick tocks and the reels and the shorts and stuff like that.
00:21:12
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um You know, you got get their attention to keep their, you only got their attention for 30 seconds, he you know, maybe, maybe a minute at most. And like you said, you know, with the stories,
00:21:24
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feel like I have to sneeze, but of course it's not going to do anything other than just annoy me. Sorry. ah You know, if you you you punch it up and and and just kind of, shiny object shiny object shiny yeah yeah yeah exactly i mean i'm not like a one-liner guy like i stay on topic uh you know i'm not just you know being like hey snowman's to like pillow forts you know it's just like i'm talking about like growing up poor or you know being in the military and it's just i it's i'm talking about that experience but just with a bunch of jokes oh yeah um
00:22:01
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What branch of the military were you in and how long were you in the army? all how long were you in the army? Six years. Oh, you definitely got jokes and stories. but Yeah. But the thing is, man, is they don't go over well with non-veterans.
00:22:18
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I have a couple bits that I've i've figured out works. um But, you know, unless I'm doing like a veteran show, i had the chunks that I have on it. I don't really get to do too often.
00:22:31
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a the yeah The little snippet I've seen of, excuse me, this is like just, you ever get a sneeze and it's just like hanging out right there?
00:22:43
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Yeah, go look up on the light so you can get it out. Yeah, well, okay, we'll try that. I've never heard i've never heard that before. There we go. um The one little snippet that had me cracking up that I've seen was, you just posted it the other day on Instagram, was youre about your mom.
00:22:59
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Oh, yeah, yeah. and I work in a yeah and of retirement facility and I said like i see these interactions with family that they're like, eh, they're a little bit close, but they're like, eh, we're gonna dump you off here and whatever happens, happens. But that just made me chuckle.
00:23:21
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and think i've watched it like seven or eight times and every time laughed at it just oh yeah yeah that's ah that's a new joke um but probably within the last couple months that i've started doing it shows um and it's been going great i like it's it's working better it's it it was much longer before that's that's the final product there before it was talking about like how um My mom, like because she never told me she loved me until I was going overseas to fight in Iraq, does that mean that she only loves like true patriots? know like She'll only be with a man who jizzes red, white, and blue. I can only do one of those colors. Those those never really worked out. It just ends with, the she never said I loved you.
00:24:13
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I think the family dynamic is always always good. you know a little A little dysfunctional family goes a long way for a comedian. Oh, yeah. It's what breeds us.
00:24:25
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Yeah. It was something that i that I already knew and that I'm i'm starting to learn more and more. um You guys are all mentally...
00:24:38
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unstable the the more comedians i get to hang out with it but you match it very well to fit in with society yeah i don't yeah you know it's it's funny because like i'll i'll meet like open micers and stuff like that and some of them seem very well adjusted some of them seem heavily autistic uh Like to a point where I'm like, I don't know how you're functioning in society or the world in general.
00:25:06
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um And people are always just have like dark histories and pasts. ah Yeah, and the amount of people like when you just like I'll hang out with someone and like like outside of comedy and they'll tell me some crazy thing about their lives and I'm always just like, why why are you not talking about this? You know how funny? You have two lesbian moms and you're Native American. That's crazy, dude. Talk about that.
00:25:33
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like english Get up on stage and talk about that. oh Tell us all the story. So, just so ah You brought up the open mics. Do you do you do a lot of open mics or what's your opinions on those or your feelings? So, I mean, but you're starting out, obviously, you got to hit the open mics. You know, you got to get your reps in. I don't do them so much anymore. um I do a lot of my i test a lot of stuff on like like road shows. If I'm doing like a bar show in the middle of nowhere something, I'll try some new stuff out.
00:26:07
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ah But like. In the summer, though, because, I mean, you live in Ohio. It's the Midwest. Things start to slow down. And so, i'm you know, I'm not booked very much, usually mostly intentionally.
00:26:20
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i need a break every now and then. So instead, I'll just I'll go to open mics and like hit those up at least once a week. um And because then i don't feel rusty when I come back into it.
00:26:35
Speaker
Yeah, i was going to say, you know, you being and being you're in the Midwest as well, you know, being... Summertime is a nice little... but A lot of people are doing stuff. Are they... do you know Is there a huge decline in in the clubs and stuff like that? Or are people still coming out to shows the same as they would, like, in the fall and wintertime when it starts to get cooler?
00:26:55
Speaker
I mean, for the comedy clubs, at least, if you get a big headliner, 100%, you know, those people are going to come out regardless. ah But, like... For like independent shows, not so much.
00:27:06
Speaker
um like I book ah the Don't Tells in Appleton and Green Bay, and they we don't even run them in the summer because we just we know they're not going to sell. They're not going to sell as well as we would like them to to make it worthwhile.
00:27:20
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um So, I mean, most comedians in the Midwest tend to go on a forced hiatus, which I think is good for you. Go right because you get to live life a little bit.
00:27:32
Speaker
I haven't lived life in five years. It's crazy. think what is What is life? yeah ah yeah way I'm trying to figure figure that out. like Between my real job and podcasting, this about ah I make a little bit of time here and there to to try to to do things and and experience stuff.
00:27:52
Speaker
I get it, man. I don't know. That's something I've always... cause It seems like And just speaking here, and i like we have a funny bone not too far from me, but it seems like now that you brought it up and I'm kind of thinking about it, a lot of the bigger names roll through like fall, wintertime, as opposed to the summer months.
00:28:16
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Yeah. There are a lot of smaller shows, a lot of, oh, I can't think of the names.
00:28:27
Speaker
Kind of like a weekend event where they have multiple smaller names come in throughout the weekend. I can't think of what I was going to call it. Like a showcase? What's that?
00:28:37
Speaker
Like a showcase? Yeah, showcase. That's it. Yeah. yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. For smaller name, you know, up and coming comedians and stuff like that. um But it's a complete opposite effect, you know, for my other show. Because right now I struggle booking music guests because now it's the hot time of year. Yeah, they're all playing, man. They got all the outside stuff.
00:28:56
Speaker
Yeah. 100%. And I think you brought it up, and I seen it when you messaged me. um the yeah The Don't Tells. What
Don't Tell Comedy's Unique Concept
00:29:06
Speaker
that? I've never heard of that before. You've never heard of Don't Tell comedy?
00:29:09
Speaker
I don't think so. Oh, it's being huge. ah So Don't Tell became... I think they just started like... i remember. I got an email. We're supposed to be celebrating some anniversary. I think they started during the pandemic, but the whole idea was...
00:29:26
Speaker
um it's you go like you don't know where the place is where the comedy show is until the day of the show you'll get an email that day and you don't know who the comics are until they're literally set foot on stage oh um and they also they film specials so uh like a lot of comedians like that was their big break was a don't tell special like katherine blanford blew up from her don't tell special um
00:29:57
Speaker
There's some other ones too. I can't... like Did you watch the Funny AF thing on Netflix with Kevin Hart? oh Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah did so like All of those comedians have Don't Tell specials. um like it's like ah it's It's like a 15-minute thing, that but they their network's insane. We're talking millions upon millions of views on these little specials.
00:30:19
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um and so yeah so and though so this This company, they have ah producers in pretty much every major city in the United States. overseas, too, now, I think. And they set up these Don't Tell shows in just random places like game stores. We've done, like, a pet sanctuary before.
00:30:38
Speaker
Barbershops, tattoo parlors, you know, just little tiny pop-up shows. They sell out, like, gangbusters. It's crazy. and it's BYOB. can bring your own booze. Yeah, even better. yeah we always And we're always just booking the best comics that we can because the budget's pretty decent.
00:30:53
Speaker
Yeah. Well, yeah, I would imagine. I mean, if like is that I said, it's basically like ah like a speakeasy for comedy. It was kind of blew up back during Prohibition. you know you had to You had to know exactly and know the right password and know the right person and everything else.
00:31:14
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Well, I think that's why it went over so well during the pandemic, you know, because like all the clubs were closed. No one was able to really do comedy like they wanted to. So now we can just... go to a barber shop and call it a private party and no one can say anything.
00:31:28
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wo I'm going to <unk>ll have to look into that and see if we have any of those around here. That'd be really cool. especially what What city do you live in? I'm close to Columbus. i' go you there's a There's a Columbus. Don't tell.
00:31:43
Speaker
okay There's something i can Google on the old interweb? Oh, absolutely. If you go on DontTellComedy.com, put in Columbus, it'll show you all the shows that are coming up. Oh, yeah.
00:31:55
Speaker
I'll have to check that out. And know the Columbus one specifically is pretty good. ah Like, they they do really well. I think they have a show every week. <unk>t tell You said DontTellComedy.com? I'm going to write that down so I don't forget it.
00:32:14
Speaker
I'm going to check that out because that'd be really cool. I mean, that I think just being able to go to you know a random location, a random spot, and not knowing, like you said, a lot of people blew up from that, not knowing what you're going to see or what you're going to get.
00:32:28
Speaker
Yeah, you won't know. And then also, like, what a great way for you to network and meet some comedians maybe you don't know that might want to go on your show, you know? Yeah. And I'm all about that. I do that for my music show. i we were My girlfriend and I were just talking about that because there's a band that I've been trying to get on and and they're actually playing right down the road. I think this week. So I'm like, we should go. And I should just introduce myself in person. good So, no, that um I'm going to definitely check that out because...
00:33:00
Speaker
I love going to see live stand-up. And any opportunity I get, like I said, it's really the only known club around here. Outside of some of the local places where in our town, they'll do comedy nights.
00:33:13
Speaker
But they'll be like, oh, we're going to do comedy night on Saturday night. and you show up, and it's one guy who does five minutes. And then he just you know got ready to go out. And it's like, oh. Yeah.
00:33:23
Speaker
You guys have a funny bone, don't you? Yeah, we got a funny bone. Yeah, OK. I thought so. Yep, here in Columbus. So.
00:33:33
Speaker
Which is a good spot. I mean, they do lot of... No, that's a great club. They do a lot of... They do ah they do a couple open night open mic nights a couple times a month. I can't remember how often it is. Every comedy club in every city should do an open mic every week, I think, because you should foster... You should make it grow because those comics that are coming to that open mic, once they start doing well and you start giving them spots... and they start getting bigger, guess what club they're going to love to do? That's why I've always seen it. so Whenever I see like a comedy club not do it, or they'll book a show during an open mic, I'm just like, what are you doing?
00:34:12
Speaker
You've got to foster your scene. yeah how's How's your guys seen out where you are, and you're out in your neck of the woods? You guys got a pretty good scene out there? No. ah So you've got to do some trouble. No, it's fine. It's fine. It's just, done I don't know. There's probably...
00:34:32
Speaker
club level comics there's probably like six or seven of us who are consistently working all the time uh which is pretty small for a scene um but i just went to the open mic recently and i was like all right there's some like new faces that i was pleasantly surprised with uh which that's also one of the nice things about taking a break and coming back and being like wait who's this guy all right this is cool this isn't fun this is new perspective i haven't thought of um But otherwise, yeah, it's it's it's not the best. But we don't have the same opportunities bigger places have. So it's harder to build that. And i don't know. I should put more effort in myself.
00:35:11
Speaker
You should work harder. To help. I should help. Get together, Trevor. Come on. Work harder, buddy. um yeah i got i got a friend of mine that uh just started doing comedy not too long ago down in tampa and and and shout out to tampa because uh tampa's killing it man in the comedy world i've heard actually um and and you know he started out doing it and he still goes to open mics and stuff like that but but he's everywhere he he's he tampa he's ah you know, Cape Coral, bunch of other, like he's everywhere because there's so many opportunities in Tampa because it's becoming this new ah comedy hub. You know, we always had New York and like l LA and whatnot. Now, now Tampa's kind of jumping into the mix, but there's a lot of opportunities and a lot of clubs that are jumping on it. and
00:36:04
Speaker
at the You know, with, in my opinion, being a fan and the way comedy's going, I'm surprised a lot of cities, aren't jumping on that and taking and taking that opportunity and going, yeah, we have music here.
00:36:16
Speaker
oh excuse me. There's a venue down the road that I've talked to. They always bring music in and I've talked to them about bringing kind comedians in where they're like, well, we, do we don't know, you know, you fiddle. I'm like, just do one comedy show and bring some comedians in and you'll see. here Here's the thing. This is, this is where I'm going to side with that music venue a little bit. Um,
00:36:39
Speaker
Because i when I first started comedy, like when I started like doing my doing shows and stuff, stage time is so rare in the smaller cities. If you want stage time, you kind of have to make it yourself. So I started my own like showcase at a local bar.
00:36:55
Speaker
and I remember when I was like negotiating with the owner to figure out like pay and all that stuff. And I was just like, this much money for 90 minutes of comedy. And she's like, I usually pay that amount of money for three hours of music.
00:37:12
Speaker
A three hour comedy show is nuts. Uh, and it's not worth the comedian's time. No one's going to make any money off that. Um, so I was able to like talk her into it, you know, cause you know, for that, as I was like, for that 90 minutes, this place is going to be sold out. And it was, it was packed. It was standing room only. It was crazy. Um,
00:37:32
Speaker
But that's where I think a lot of venues have trouble with it because, you know, you book a night of bands. That's a night, a full night of bands rather than a 90 minute show.
00:37:43
Speaker
yeah And so like if your venue is relying mostly on drink sales, that kind of hurts it.
00:37:53
Speaker
i mean, yeah, I think I can see that. I can see, I can definitely see that side of it. Um, But if you were to do and and and and ah this is kind of yeah talking to the owners was like, you know, if you like you said, a showcase, you can get couple hours worth of plus <unk>re we're in one of those rare cities that it's not a big city, but they support that out of our local artists, whether you're musicians or comedians.
00:38:22
Speaker
um So it's like, think, you know, I think it's a miss, I guess, depending upon the city. Maybe it should be a comedy close by. Yeah, well, the problem I see is with, like...
00:38:36
Speaker
After, i mean, even 90 minutes is pushing it these days with people's attention spans. People get pretty squirrely after 90 minutes. Yeah. Because i remember the first time doing, like, we did, like, a two-hour show. And right about 30 minutes before we were wrapping up, people started getting squirrely, started heckling. It just kind of became just pure chaos. And I'm finding with, like, the attentions. What's that?
00:39:00
Speaker
Them drinks started setting in. I mean, that's usually good. That's what I want. But you can't be too drunk. That's a problem. You know, I saw a lady charge a comic and try to like kill her on stage once because she was too drunk. You know, like it's crazy. That comic will not ever do Appleton again.
00:39:18
Speaker
Jesus. Congratulations. when She talks about it a lot on her podcast. Yeah. wow That brings up another heckler. I'm assuming you've had to have come across a a couple. but how do you yeah Nowadays, ah it's about... What's the word I'm looking for?
00:39:43
Speaker
Being polite. me Politely telling them to fuck off. You know, like, cause it used to be like, there was times where I was just like, you need to shut up, you know, you need to shut the fuck up or i'm or I will strangle you with this mic cord. ah But now it's just turned into like, I'll i'll usually be like, like if someone's really heckling, I'll be like, Hey, are you okay?
00:40:04
Speaker
Like, is, is everything all right? Like, is there something, is there something you need to say right now? Let's talk about it. This is your moment to say whatever you need. uh and then you know usually it just ends up that they're way too drunk and then i'm like all right and then usually have a code which is like uh someone gets a guy coffee and that usually means get them the fuck out of here um stick them in an uber send them yeah but uh otherwise you know like yeah it's just being like what's up but are you okay like is there anything
00:40:37
Speaker
like what's what's going on with you man you know like that's usually my my approach nowadays that's a that's a quick way to uh don't put me on the spotlight yeah yeah usually like ah i mean but then like god some people are just lunatics like i remember not even that long ago i was doing this show and uh the headliner he was up there and he's you know doing his thing and Someone in the audience goes, ah that wasn't funny. Like after he said a joke and he was like, excuse me. And he played into it really well where he's just like, oh, that was a really mean thing to say, you know, whatever. And he moves on to his next joke. And then like he says the joke and he like looks at her and she goes, that was funny. And he's like, ah, there it is. you know i like That's fun. But in that same show, some old man came up and took the microphone from him and started singing, doing his Elvis Presley impersonation.
00:41:33
Speaker
I don't understand the insanity in people. I think we learned later that he was like an Alzheimer's patient that was let out of the hospital for a day for like, a I don't know. like you Literally let a crazy asshole. Yeah. Onto a comedy show, you know, it's like, man, as long as you paid your 20 bucks, I'm happy.
00:41:55
Speaker
Yeah. You know, we'll bring you back to the, uh, to the old folks home after, after the show, after everybody sees your Elvis. I think, and I don't know if this is a thing or if it's just, it's played out more and it's more on social media and you know you being in the in the in the spotlight on this one.
The Role of Crowd Work in Comedy
00:42:16
Speaker
People with with like the Matt Rives and Michael Blausteins and different other comedians who do all the crowd work, it seems like everybody wants to be involved in a comedy show.
00:42:29
Speaker
Yeah, it's heard it. Do you run into that a lot or is it more just a had too much to drink and doesn't know when to shut up? I usually deal with what I like to call ah polite hecklers. It's where they're not necessarily like interrupting the show to be be mean. They're not trying to really add anything to it. They're just trying to go be like, you're doing really good. You know, like they like that was really funny. You know, and it's like, shut up. You're distracting me. The rhythm to this.
00:43:01
Speaker
ah to Be supportive down here. Don't be a dick. But I definitely have seen people like try to, especially for like people who are crowd work comedians almost like exclusively. who was like who was it I wasn't here for this. This a secondhand story. But I guess Preacher Lawson was playing our club.
00:43:24
Speaker
And some lady in the audience kept saying something. And he was just like, he was kind of ignoring He was doing crowd work with someone else. And then finally she just screamed at the top of her lungs, I want to suck your dick. And he was just like, okay. don't know if you know who Preacher Lawson is, but he's like very clean. Yeah. I've come across to him on social media.
00:43:48
Speaker
I mean, I've seen him and whatnot, so But yeah, so like, yeah, people that that the whole like clip culture has really ruined that side of stand up where people now think that that's what a comedy show is. And I don't want that to be what a comedy show is. It's hard enough.
00:44:09
Speaker
Yeah, I think. and And I've said this before, I think. ah much like the storytelling or the joke, you know, there's an art to what you guys do.
00:44:21
Speaker
And some guys fantastic with the crowd work. Oh yeah, absolutely. they Their actual standup, not really all that good, but the crowd work is amazing.
00:44:31
Speaker
If that's your thing, do it. But, as if you're going to go out to comedy, you have to understand, like, not every comedian is going to be that guy. not but Not every comedian wants to talk to 20 people in the front row.
00:44:43
Speaker
yeah You know, you guys spend a lot of time working on your craft and working on your jokes and stuff like that that, you know, I love going, and the last thing I want to do is be the center of attention in the audience, but I also like to sit up front.
00:45:00
Speaker
I like to, yeah you know, to be up there. And I try my hardest. I'm like, don't laugh too loud. Oh, no, laugh as loud as you possibly can. Please do that. Don't. that Yeah. it Don't censor yourself.
00:45:16
Speaker
Yeah. It's happened a few times, but it's like, you know, we were in a show and the comedian, she was making fun of people in ohio and she said something and I didn't think I said it very loud, but apparently I said it loud enough. I was like, hell yeah, because I was agreeing with her. So the yes every time she said something, she would look to me.
00:45:35
Speaker
we good Yeah. What of the hell? Yeah. I was like, okay, great. part bit Now. Yeah. Now nos i mean there's a lot of comedians out there who do crowd work well where, but then there's a lot of comedians who are trying to do crowd work. And it's like the, there's like,
00:45:54
Speaker
How is it always explained to me? I've always looked at crowd work as like there's the organic, something crazy happens in the audience and you riff off of it and you play with that person. That's like essentially yes and improv, right?
00:46:06
Speaker
ah Then there's the the fishing crowd work, which is like... What do you do for a living? Is that your wife? How long have you been married? you know and that's you're You're digging. You're trying to find something, which that's fine. it It seems as an audience member, I don't like that because like that's that's time that you could be telling jokes and you're kind of losing momentum on everything. um But then there's the...
00:46:33
Speaker
The magic trick crowd work. It's where you have a phrase or a line that you say that no matter what, you know what the responses you're going to get. And then you make it seem like you're doing crowd work. Can't stand that shit. That shit pisses me off. does uh does the crowd work like that like you said the magic trick or the uh fishing if you're if you're in a show like a showcase or something if somebody comes up and does that does that kind of derail the rest of the show especially like they're like in the middle of the pack and then if they're good at it if they're good at it no um i i feel like if i'm on a showcase and i'm planning on doing crowd work i i think I feel like anyone after me I would talk to first just to be like, hey, I am doing this.
00:47:17
Speaker
Because like one of the golden rules I've always followed is if I'm not the headliner, um definitely if I'm the host, I'm not going to do crowd work. um Just because like you want to leave meat on the bone for the headliner, especially if that's their thing.
00:47:33
Speaker
um Because the the last thing you want as a headliner is to go out there and be like, I can't even talk to you anymore because that last guy just had to talk to you about everything. And you were the most interesting person here. And now I have nothing.
00:47:48
Speaker
That's no good. So in those instances, no, but i mean, if you know that someone after you is not a, a crowd work guy, i don't think there's any reason you couldn't do it. Yeah, don't know if that would kind of derail it or, you know, if you if you come out and they've done crowd work and now the crowd's like, oh, we're a part of the show. and you oh okay. Actually, no, I see what you're saying. No, you're right. i have experienced that.
00:48:14
Speaker
um I did a show... It was, i didn't know this at the time, but it was after a, like a big wine walk happened downtown in this like city I was in. And so like everyone who was there was day drinking and they were like slosh, but also like that, like line of tired when you're day drinking, you know?
00:48:34
Speaker
Oh, yeah. So this like this guy went on before me and he just did this crazy crowd work like just insane. Oh, like because he it was a pre it was a very like white city and he was like ah a black guy and he does this thing called Ask a Black guy And so he's like, you can say whatever you want. No holds barred. I will answer it. And so people were asking him the wildest shit and they're getting worked up crazy. Right.
00:49:03
Speaker
So then I get up there and I'm just like, Hey, you guys ever weird. See how weird moms are. They don't want that. You know, they're falling asleep during my set. That sucked. I didn't like that. Uh, but that was just, but that's poor, um, booking on the producer's part. I even remember telling him, Hey man, that guy should have gone. like That guy should have outlined.
00:49:23
Speaker
Like, I do not have a big enough ego where I i will not be like, yo, that guy should have lined. No, exactly. That's that kind of, you know, you wind the crowd. The crowd's starting to wind down. Let's let's now bring out the, you know, you've seen ah the the song and dance. Now here's the fireworks. and Yeah.
00:49:44
Speaker
Yeah, no, that's, I saw that I've always, you know, like, as as As, again, as a fan, you know, I couldn't imagine being a comedian who has to follow somebody who just did, you know, five minutes of of crowd work and the crowd's all amped up and excited. And then they're like, hey, we're a part of the show. And then you come up and you get. I don't want to follow someone who's done five minutes of local references.
00:50:08
Speaker
Yeah. ah Shoot me in the brain, dude. Like, I'm not from here. I don't know what that, like, you call the people from, you know, the valley troglot i don't understand your references you know they're killing you're just like cool i'm not going to kill like that yeah it's a little different when you when you step out of your your hometown or your home yeah when you when you when you have home field advantage you know you you know especially if you you know especially if you have a couple jokes just from like excuse me um
00:50:43
Speaker
stereotypes. like Like I said, you the last the last show I was at, the the lady was not from Ohio. She was just feeding onto the stereotypes. um And they were just... Welcome to the nonsense you want to. Where anything can and will happen.
00:51:10
Speaker
um But...
00:51:15
Speaker
have you ever Have you ever had that instance where, i mean, outside of like, you know, somebody absolutely killing it with with but crowd work or just in general where you're like, fuck, I don't want to go on after this guy or, you know, because they were so good?
00:51:31
Speaker
No, i don't i don't think I've ever experienced that. Usually if someone's really good, I want to go on after them because they've essentially created this momentum that I get to now just ride.
00:51:43
Speaker
Like that's that's why like, you know, your host should be like your weakest, your feature should be your second, you know, that's why the features almost have, cause you just got the, the quick, the hill going up, you know, you never want this and you definitely don't want this, you know?
00:51:57
Speaker
um The only time I don't like to go on after someone is if they have really shit the bed. That is not fun. Cause then now I have to do so much extra work to dig out from that hole that they created. And it's exhausting. And I just, it's like, sometimes I just want to go up and do my 20 minutes and just have fun. And then to like spend 10 of that fixing whatever just happened before me is it's the worst.
00:52:23
Speaker
Trying to fix your fuck ups. Yeah. Yeah. Um, in that in in in in you know In your circle or your community of comedians, um are you guys kind of a close-knit where you support each other and kind of push each other to to be better and do better? Or have you experienced any gatekeeping?
00:52:44
Speaker
in ah I think a lot of people in my scene would call me a gatekeeper. hold on. Yeah, I'm very particular when it comes to the Don't Tell Comedy bookings. um it's not even friends I've booked some people I don't like it's just funny is funny and I will book you if you're funny that is my rule um even if I don't think you're funny but I've seen you kill i will book you because I know that because you might be funny to me you but you're funny to them and that's all that I care about is selling tickets um but uh
00:53:16
Speaker
i I wish our scene was more as and my girlfriend call it kumbaya. um because There's like other scenes that like I'll go into for a little bit you know because I'm there for a weekend or something.
00:53:28
Speaker
and I'll hang out there and i'll be like man, you guys are just so friendly.
Building a Comedy Community
00:53:31
Speaker
So nice. But when I think about it, our scene is so much smaller so like the comics who are that at the same like level that I'm at, I am tight with them.
00:53:45
Speaker
But it's yeah And above me too. But like the stuff, like the open mic, I'm not very tight with them. um Some of them, I fuck with some of them, but it's just, again, it's just, I only have so much energy to give people and i can't, I just, I can't, I can't stand bad comedy. i can't stand, i have no patience is what it comes down to. I mean,
00:54:08
Speaker
see Before doing comedy, I was a musician. i was a on the road, touring, all this stuff. I've been an entertainer since forever. oh I have no time for bullshit anymore. like i just I just don't.
00:54:20
Speaker
You're the grumpy old guy in the room. yeah yeah We have that in common. I'm the grumpy old guy now. Be good and I will yeah probably talk remember you and talk to you. yeah but i could I could definitely relate to that. the you know i work with I work with some guys that are younger than me.
00:54:38
Speaker
um And and i'm in I'm in the construction world. So i mean I've been doing it since I was like 15, 16 years old. And now I've become the grumpy old guy that I used to want to hit in the face with a brick.
00:54:50
Speaker
only I'm not mean as those guys because know a different generation ah but the guys tease me all the time because i have no patience i'm going to show you i'm going to teach you how to do something or show you how to do something but if you don't want to listen or if you think you know everything then i'm fucking done i'm i'm washing my hands go fuck up i'm not fixing it were you were you in the military no no no no no um that's a very it's it's a my therapist says that's a very military trait um that's where that comes from with me uh because Being – not being good at your job, it could cost lives. So, you know. ah um
00:55:29
Speaker
In construction too, probably, honestly. but yeah Absolutely. absolutely i mean, you know, it's not as serious as the military, obviously, but you could absolutely cost lives or other you know other issues. But I don't know. I've just been doing it for over 30 years at this point. So I'm just – and maybe that's what it is you do something for so long uh whether it's the military or like you being an entertainer um yeah yeah but i'm not i'm a I'm a baby in comedy. i shouldn't take it so seriously. That's the way i see it. Five years is just neat shit. i'm trying to I'm turning a new leaf. I was just talking to a a peer of mine who, when I started doing comedy, ah she was very, very good to me. Kristen Levy.
00:56:11
Speaker
shes She was very good to me. She was nice to me when I was bad. um And that helped a lot because you know not everyone was. And I should i should be more like her than the people who were mean to me. so yeah Well, and that's what I try to be. Over the last few years, I've tried to come to an understanding in my own head. Look, yes, they might be fucking stupid, but I also got to give them a little bit of slack because they might not know how to do it. They're still stupid, but they don't know how to do it. So I got to try to teach them. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's and that's that's that's that's what that's the perspective I'm trying to take on because I can't.
00:56:47
Speaker
The first piece of advice that that Kristen gave me was make friends. I haven't really been doing that. I'd be better at that. I make friends in other scenes. Like when I'm doing shows with people, I'm at a comedy festival, I'm making friends. love that part of it. But that's good because that's going to help you expand your name and expand your brand outside of Appleton, which at the end of the day, that's the name of the
Networking in Comedy
00:57:15
Speaker
game. You want to get outside. You want to...
00:57:17
Speaker
do Vegas, New York, California, Florida, wherever. you You want to go to these big cities, and that's part of the name of the game, man. You got to make friends.
00:57:28
Speaker
Yeah, give me your friend's information in Tampa. Flights to Tampa are cheap. Let me stay with them. I can actually. I'll shoot you his info, man. I'll send you his info. It's like $75 for a round trip from Appleton to Tampa. I've been looking into doing Florida because i was like, man, if I could just crash on someone's couch for a week, I could i could make some connections out there.
00:57:48
Speaker
Yeah, i'll ah I'll shoot you his information when we get done tonight. um And you guys can link up. I've actually sent him a couple people, and I believe they've linked up from a couple. yeah. comedians I've had on here because I'm all about I want to see you know I want to see you guys go off that's great thing about doing this show is I get to meet you guys I get to know you guys a little bit of a friendship developer friendship develops but also at the end of the day I get to watch your journey and watch you guys grow and and and continue to expand and get better and everything like that and just be like hey i remember i remember when Trevor was on my show. Now he's got a Netflix.
00:58:22
Speaker
but Now somebody's always starting to message. I don't know about that. and i don't think I'll ever – I say to my girlfriend a lot, like, I don't think I'll ever – I'm never going to make it. I don't plan to ever make it. And the second it stops being fun is when I stop doing it.
00:58:37
Speaker
um But it's still fun. so i think I think that's ah i think that's ah that's a hell of a mindset to have, and it's kind of The same mindset I have with doing is I want to be quote unquote podcasting for about five years.
00:58:53
Speaker
Doing live streams and stuff like that on on the Internet. I've been doing that for over 10 years now. Oh, damn. The problem is, is unfortunately you have a very, you know, for me and I've noticed this with some other people, and some people that I've talked to, you have a very big audience on one platform.
00:59:10
Speaker
and then you go to another platform and essentially none of those people come. You might get a couple handful of them and then you've got to regrow. yeah And that's kind of where we are. But, that you know, I've, I've,
00:59:25
Speaker
told people that too like i hope i hope this blows up and i can quit my job and i can just do this all the time but if not i'm only going to do it until it's not fun anymore the moment it becomes not fun i'm done you know yeah yeah because your your own mental health is so much more important than doing anything else you know yeah we see that on here what what were you referring to wally uh But yeah, i mean, and i've i've i've I've killed shows that I've created just because they didn't they didn't get, don't know, they just sounded fun at the, I also have ADHD. So it's like. i hear that, man.
01:00:07
Speaker
I had a podcast for a little bit. it it was actually doing really well. Yeah. And I stopped doing it because I started doing stand-up. I wanted to focus on doing that because it was more fun. yeah Editing, as you I mean, doing the live stream, it has to be pretty nice. But because we were just like recording audio and putting it out every week, the editing process, just, God, hate that. I hate it so much.
01:00:29
Speaker
And that's the part. And nowadays, you know, I do think maybe if I want to do it again, it wouldn't be so bad just because with like AI editing tools, it might make it a lot easier. um But then God, dude, just hand editing everything was the worst.
01:00:45
Speaker
Oh, and when i when I decided I was finally going to, you know, because talked about it forever, doing a podcast, doing a show, doing this, doing that. i'm like oh yeah i just turned my camera on and it'll be easy i had i had no idea how to edit audio i had no idea how to like splice and cut and had to learn all that crap and and yeah the amount of youtube videos i had to read on audacity yeah yeah we do the live shows there's no editing yeah no that's like the live stream stuff's gotta nice for that
01:01:17
Speaker
and then and And then I post, I'll take this audio 100% real, uncut, unedited, and it goes on to the podcasting platforms. A lot of that probably has to do with the fact that I'm incredibly lazy. and I already do it enough, and I'm already so goddamn busy as it is.
01:01:34
Speaker
Most days I don't know if I'm coming or going. When you're doing this show, um how many people do you find that like have high-end audio and video for you?
01:01:47
Speaker
uh and all on me and this is the crazy thing because i interview a lot of musicians it's only been a handful of people that have come in with you know you see the high-end mics you know they got the fancy cameras they've got soundboard they've got most of the musicians that interview they're literally on their phones Yeah, that's funny. I'm like, what are you doing, bro? I know you got a whole ass fucking studio behind you. Because I'm using my very nice camera.
01:02:15
Speaker
um I have a Yeti Blue. It sounds like shit. I hate these. I need a new one. um My audio is not great, but my video looks pretty good, I think.
01:02:27
Speaker
i um I have a really nice microphone. I don't use it. um the careless thing You sound great. That's surprising. yeah the The camera that i that I have, I got at Walmart. It's like a Walmart brand camera just because my camera went to shit on my laptop and I needed an external camera. and i was like, shit, I'm going buy. Let me run and just grab the cheapest thing. It was like right before a freaking show too. I just grabbed this and the mic on it sounds great. The camera's on it's good. i mean It gives me 1080 and I'm like,
01:02:57
Speaker
cool and i got a laptop here that's about about to be dead at any moment so but but you know um what up what up fidel how you doing man uh yeah got your new laptop that's a that's a good call mine's mine's getting there Yes. I mean, i you don't have to have high. I tell people this all the time. they're like i want to do i want do a podcast, but I'm a a $5,000 camera. I'm why?
01:03:22
Speaker
ah fifteen hundred dollars microphone in a ten thousand dollars laptop five thousand dollars camera i'm like why who but thing why are you doing all that you're not making i mean my camera is very expensive don't get me wrong but i use it to record sets so it's got to be um and in in you're making money doing comedy i'm not making any money doing this right now yeah exactly oh if one day you know i'm making money and i can build i would love to have a really nice podcast studio with camera and mics and stuff like that and be able to yeah i wrote that i was able to write that camera off this year it was awesome yeah
01:03:58
Speaker
bring guests into my studio if they're local right now if i brought a guest in my girlfriend would probably be like why do you have a weird comedian in our bedroom or why do you have this crazy band said why are there dudes doing lines in our son's room drummer i used to for hookers i used to uh when i was like in my early 20s we had ah what what kind of music ah are you into i listen to I listen to everything, to be honest with you, man. I'm i'm all over the place. I kind of guess country and rock are my big two ones, but I listen everything. I love it all.
01:04:39
Speaker
So do you know what like ah what a punk house is
01:04:47
Speaker
Not right off the top my head. A show house? Oh, yeah. OK, yeah, yeah. OK. So i had ah i had a we I came up like in like the punk scene and just we had a punk house. And the amount of times I just caught bands just snorting lines of whatever in the fucking bathroom or in my bedroom, you know, ah just crazy. Yeah.
01:05:08
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. i know what you're talking about now. We had, we had a, I had a buddy of mine that ah he went to college, but he just rented a house down on campus and constantly had live bands set.
01:05:22
Speaker
it's actually pretty dope i like i mean can get exhausting but it's so much fun dude like never had to pay for a show it was dope like all the bands just played at my house yeah exactly hell yeah i know what you're talking about now yeah no that's uh yeah i don't think i don't think my girlfriend's gonna be too excited which is bringing strangers through the house right now We're currently in the middle of remodeling our basements.
01:05:49
Speaker
And I'm going have a studio down here, which I'm really excited for. But right now I'm banished because all the children are home and they would be yelling and stuff. And it's not just in the bar really bad basement in front of a green screen. we so I'm just, I'm just back in our bedroom. my yeah and My daughter, my kids are home this week. My daughter's up in her room.
01:06:10
Speaker
and I don't even know where my son is. To be 100% honest with he could be out. He's probably somewhere in this house, but I don't know. Do we need to file a missing persons report?
01:06:21
Speaker
No, he's fine. Wherever he's at, he's fine. He's got life 360. I can find him. Okay, perfect. depth that hook Yeah, but um yeah, i so you know what the least but I got nice little setup right here in the corner of the bedroom. Yeah, it's not bad.
01:06:37
Speaker
See wrestling belts and stuff. and This is her office slash studio. so um It works, but I've looked and I was like, man, I would love to you know, there's like all these empty old office spaces around town.
01:06:52
Speaker
Just like lease me a little whole office space and set everything up and be able to bring guests in or If I'm doing it virtually like this, which while I'll probably still um do a good majority of my shows like this. now It's quiet. It's peaceful. and gonna yeah like My kids will randomly come in and be like, I've got a test tomorrow and I need these clothes. And it's like I'm right in the middle the I mean, that's like the big cool thing I hear, though, at least like the pandemic, like.
01:07:23
Speaker
You could get, you don't have to schedule guests. You know, like my podcast was usually just me and another guy, but we would have guests on every now and then. And we'd have to schedule that because it'd have to come in to where we record, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff. When like now you can just zoom in, you know, or use whatever this platform is we're on.
01:07:45
Speaker
This is, we we use StreamYard. StreamYard. and that's And that's what, you know originally when I started doing this, it was just me and a couple of buddies. One of my friends lived in Mexico.
01:07:56
Speaker
So we had to find a platform where we could do stuff like this. And like I said, it wasn't until about a year and a half, while almost two years ago, maybe two years ago, I was like, oh, I want to start interviewing musicians. I love music.
01:08:08
Speaker
And it's been great because I got the day of the week, just like with my comedy show now that I just started doing. And and shout out to you guys, everybody in the media or comedy world, because I came up ADHD brain over here was like, I got an idea for three new shows.
01:08:24
Speaker
No thought process. Let's just run with it. I have an intro. I have a logo. And now I need guests. And I put yeah one one little post out and I literally have guests booked through September for this particular show.
01:08:39
Speaker
I mean, for me, I saw someone I knew on and I was in like, all comedians, we see someone on a show. We're like, who books that? yeah so I was just like, I'll reach out to this guy. Yeah, so it was like, and then I had to explain to some people like, no, it's not. You're not coming up and doing comedy.
01:08:56
Speaker
Because that was one of my initial thoughts was like, hey, maybe I can get a comedian to come on here and do a couple minutes as well as the interview. But then I was like, well, that's not going to be any good because you guys need the live reaction. And you don't want some dumbass just laughing at you, you know, so. Yeah, that's a weird vibe.
01:09:13
Speaker
it's Like, hey either I laugh or I don't. And if I don't laugh, then it just makes it awkward the rest of the show. so But I was like, yeah I'm already doing a music show kind of similar to this. Let's keep the same vibe for the comedians.
01:09:28
Speaker
Yeah. Everyone likes to sit and just bullshit. It's fun. And you know we get to know a little bit about you. And I like to throw out, you know, speaking of which, absolutely throw your social media out there, Trevor, or if you've got a website so people can can find you.
01:09:42
Speaker
Oh, yeah, you can just find me on Trevor Klopner Comedy on all socials. Very easy. And then trevorklopnercomedy.com for all my dates, ticket links, all that fun stuff.
01:09:56
Speaker
ahead. Speaking of um shows and stuff like that, you got any anything coming up, anything you're you're working on or anything? but Like i said, it's the summertime, so I typically slow down. I have...
01:10:10
Speaker
so i have ah I got some stuff in June, just like some small bar show stuff. I am doing the Fringe Festival in July. um not the Scotland Fringe. That's and not that cool. It's just a small Fringe Festival in Green Bay.
01:10:26
Speaker
I'm running a show called – what's my show called? Hello, My Name Is. And it's like a – it's like a ah the audience members are wearing name tags that have like secrets about them or like interesting facts about them. So the comedians on stage can just don't have to farm for it, they can just go into the interesting thing.
01:10:47
Speaker
Um, yeah so yeah. and that ah yeah Yeah. I'm ripping off a show on already called crowd control, but yeah.
01:10:59
Speaker
this day and age, and everybody's kind of doing the same thing. Just some people do it better than others.
01:11:06
Speaker
My girlfriend just texted me to smile and act like I'm having a good time. I look like I hate this and it's hard to watch. just just I love the angry veteran comedy. I'm not even angry. It's just my face. I can't help it. and This is my face. This is why everyone thinks I'm a dick. It sucks.
01:11:27
Speaker
Well, I mean, I don't know which is worse looking angry all the time or just looking like an idiot. I'm a big, dumb animal. So usually i have a confused, dumb look on my face. So I don't know if that helps me or what. and like and like I'm constantly just observing what's going on and like trying to listen. So my face is just looks angry because I'm like trying to like pay attention to what's happening around me. It's i'm usually having a good time. It's just I'm i'm ah absorbing the information that I'm receiving.
01:11:58
Speaker
think i'm This is my smile. I'm smiling right now. This to me is a smile. He's smiling.
01:12:09
Speaker
it's just an actuality This guy fucking sucks. Why did I read his podcast? I think we're having a good time. like i don't what its
01:12:20
Speaker
Just tell her, if you think you can be better, don't you come up? Come on.
01:12:27
Speaker
I'll get her next. Well, gotta wait until October. Yeah. i Man, that I gotta say, this is cool for me because I've always been a huge fan of comedy. And I'm, you know, a couple friends that are involved in comedy and and whatnot.
01:12:44
Speaker
And when I first mentioned the show to them, they were like, oh my God, dude, you are going to lose your mind because comedians, they want to be seen. They want to be heard. They need attention. and now you just look like a crazy man this is so fun yeah no it's cool no this is a cool idea this is uh i'll go on anything this is this is awesome i'm really glad to be here
01:13:13
Speaker
so after that face you're just making now i'm concerned that you have bodies in that basement i thought you looked familiar we watch a lot of murder shows in this house Wait a minute. That's why Appleton, the Appleton Slayer is on my show. yeah That's why I knew that name.
01:13:36
Speaker
know it um you When you write your comedy and stuff, is does that come easy to you? or is that
01:13:44
Speaker
Or is that something that you kind of have to work hard at? um Naturally, I guess is the words I'm trying to say. uh i mean so like i grew up uh loving stand-up comedy like i'm watching it all the time as a kid um but i never like saw it as something that like normal people did you know it's just like that person's a comedian that's what they do uh but i i was thinking was actually thinking about it today because i was listening to michael jackson and i was like and i remember when me and my buddy cory like
01:14:15
Speaker
had this girl come over to his house and we're like, yeah, come in the room. And like, we put on Michael Jackson and we like went into his closet and we had like a full, like Michael Jackson get up and we like dance to Billie Jean. And just as a bit, you know, cause we thought that was funny. And I i was like, yeah, i was always doing like weird, like things like that. But I never like thought about like doing it like as a comedy, and you know, it's like ah a business, I guess.
01:14:38
Speaker
And then, um I had a friend in the music scene who was like, yo, dude, like I'm doing comedy now. And I was like, what do you mean you're doing comedy? and he's like, yeah, i just went to an open mic. And I was like oh, shit, you can just do that. i never even like put that together. Because when I started doing music, I never really did open mics. I just was playing music. um And then ah so then when I started like writing and stuff, like I thought it was good.
01:15:07
Speaker
now uh i was looking at my first set the other day and uh there's like a couple jokes in there that they're not the same but the premise is still there that i still do to this day uh i just i i wrote i've changed it so it's better now um but most of it was just like wow disgusting, really gross stuff.
01:15:28
Speaker
um So no, it did not come naturally. I've actually been getting these compliments from people that I first was doing comedy with. um One of them was like, you know, when I first met you, i thought,
01:15:44
Speaker
This guy doesn't have it. He'll never have it. It's going to take him 10 years to get any type of good. And then I worked with him like a couple months later and he's like, whoa, dude, you like figured it out. ah And then I recently did a club where the owner was like, when I first saw you, I thought you were the worst comedian I've ever met. And now I think you are better than how long you've been doing I was like, well, that's a really nice thing to say, you know? It's kind of a nice compliment, I guess. Yeah, it was like a nag, but whatever. Five years ago. I used to hate you. You're slightly above mediocre nowadays.
01:16:21
Speaker
But it's it's fine. but ah And so that's where it's like, oh, it doesn't come naturally. Like now I feel like i'mm I'm at a better place now to understand –
01:16:33
Speaker
like ah joke structure and writing. um So that comes a little naturally. like So if i if I write something and I take it to stage, for the most part, it should be there. There's some tweaks that probably have to be made.
01:16:46
Speaker
um but yeah it's it's it's it's natural learn now but i wouldn't say comes natural uh even being on stage even being like being in music first i still get so nervous before i have to go on stage every single time it's insane uh and then the second i get on stage i'm just like oh whatever this is i don't care anymore it's crazy Yeah, it's it's got to be, i mean, what what were you doing music-wise? Were you were you a singer? Did you instrument? I was a singer, and I played the ukulele.
01:17:17
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, now I'm curious.
Music vs. Stand-Up Performance
01:17:20
Speaker
What kind of music did you play? It was a folk punk band.
01:17:25
Speaker
All right. You definitely piqued my curiosity there. Yeah, it's different. can You can find us. It's that no town asshole. But yeah,
01:17:35
Speaker
but ah yeah so um i But like the difference between music and comedy is like when you're with like a band, you're sharing the embarrassment with each other, I guess. You don't feel like you're up there as a team. yeah And then you can also hide behind your instruments or whatever. But when it comes to like comedy, like you're just it's you. It's just you. And it's not even like your music, you because music can be like a raw form of yourself.
01:18:02
Speaker
But I'm literally just talking and telling you about myself, looking for a reaction. you know Yeah. it it is ah It is a much different world and it's, you know, doing the music show for, you know, about two years or so now.
01:18:17
Speaker
I've had guests on that, you know, just coming on the podcast, they were nervous. But the moment they picked up, I had one kid, you know, just green as could be. And he was nervous. We were about five minutes, 10 minutes in. And I it was one of those like, I know he's got talent. I know, like talking to him, he he's cool.
01:18:37
Speaker
but it was like pulling teeth and he was fidgeting with his guitar and stuff. And I was like, would it make you feel better if you played a song? Yeah. And I really, and I was like, yeah, picked up his guitar, played a fucking song, uh, did did, did one of his originals. And then it was like a totally different show because he was, he had that, that security blanket. He, he got nerves out. Um, but yeah, to go up there on stage by yourself and try to tell jokes or tell jokes and hopefully the crowd likes you. You, you're kind of,
01:19:07
Speaker
going out there naked from coming from the music world. it's ah My first joke is always my barometer. like the second my If my first joke hits, then the rest of the set is just... I know it's going to be smooth sailing. um But if it doesn't hit, then I'm like, I'm in for a long journey. It's going be a long Because that first joke is...
01:19:33
Speaker
pretty much what you're getting guys. so This is the tempo. yeah yeah
Preference for Set Lengths
01:19:40
Speaker
Buckle in. How long, how long do you, how long are your sets that you normally do?
01:19:45
Speaker
ah It depends. I'm starting to creep into headlining world, not at like clubs or anything, but like I've i've done like a couple of headlining spots that were like 40, 45 minutes. um I sit comfortably at that feature pocket, you know, 20 minute sets. I do love hosting still. I love to host 10 minutes and like my 10 minutes is so tight and I can just get out of there. It's great. I love, I love it. ah But I like to feature because the money's better. Yeah.
01:20:16
Speaker
always amen It's about the money. yeah Bullshit walks and money talks at the end of the day. mean i do I do a weekend at a club you know and you're doing five shows. If you're the host, you're only making $250 and a lot of clubs don't let you sell merch.
01:20:33
Speaker
If I'm doing feature weekend for five shows, I'm walking out with $500 and I get to sell merch. yeah yeah That's definitely... i mean That $250 barely covers your hotel for a weekend.
01:20:47
Speaker
It doesn't, actually. you use Yeah, and also a lot of clubs... depends on where you stay at. Yeah, I've been lucky to find some like pretty decent Airbnbs in Indiana and stuff. but ah but you But if you're featuring, a lot of clubs will like pay for your hotel. like They take a little off your pay, but it's still worth it. Yeah.
01:21:07
Speaker
yeah Yeah, because i there ain't nothing cheap about hotels anymore. Yeah. I mean, i don't know. It's, I think, don't something's weird right now because I just, I stayed at like a pretty nice hotel for a comedy festival I was at a couple weeks ago and it was like only 50 bucks a night and it was like a decent, it was actually a decent hotel. Like I was, so I thought I was going to get like a really bad hotel. yeah and then i got there and i was like well they got a pool they got a hot tub my room's pretty clean every there's cool stuff nearby like this is actually pretty legit they're just like oh we just had like a crazy flood like no one's in town okay that makes sense that makes sense you you we're doing you're trying to recoup some money ah that's yeah
01:21:50
Speaker
Just doing anything you possibly can. i used but It's wild to me. I used to live in a tourist city. I used live down in South Carolina in Charleston. and And you hear the tourist season hits, all the hotels double their prices, you know restaurants, prices increase and stuff like that.
Living in Tourist Towns
01:22:10
Speaker
you I never really believed it. Maybe I'm just an idiot, but living there for close to a decade, it was like, oh, shit. Yeah. During tourist season, it's like twice as much to go out to eat.
01:22:21
Speaker
Oh, yeah. You know, during just ah the off season. Yeah. you get of it up when When you go to Hawaii, you got to go to the got to go more inland because you get the local prices then, you know, like it's.
01:22:38
Speaker
little bit cheaper, a little bit cheaper, a little bit more a little bit more affordable at the end of the day. um yeah With your girlfriend doing comedy, and apparently, yeah, she's she's watching and
Comedic Collaboration and Critique
01:22:51
Speaker
listening.
01:22:51
Speaker
so Yeah, she's calling me an ass. Do you guys ever bounce stuff off of each other? And I assume that she'd be a a a good critic to have.
01:23:05
Speaker
I couldn't think right place. Yeah, so we do. That one, that's that's an area where we're still kind of working out um her sense of humor. wouldn't say it's different than mine. We both like appreciate like silliness. um But I'll tell... she doesn't like like i'll be I'll be like, this is the joke.
01:23:26
Speaker
And she'll be like, that's gross. And I'll be like, you don't know anything. Shut up. And I do it. And then do it. And then I was like, yeah, that was too gross.
01:23:37
Speaker
you know like So like i do I've been listening to her with that more lately. um Just because I'm like, no, she's probably right. That is pretty gross. and listen Which has been nice because like I've been looking at like my sets I've been doing lately. And I'm like, oh, these are actually like...
01:23:52
Speaker
clean like i could be like i could like market myself as clean i don't think i will i think clean comedy is boring personally um but uh and so and she'll bounce stuff off me too but the problem with me is like i am a bad bad laugher i just don't i have a really hard time laughing and stuff i do a bit about it right now where i'm like uh i've been doing i've seen so much comedy through my life that like at this point i'm essentially like a porn addict like it takes the really weird stuff to get me going you know uh so like if i see someone who's like doing just like the craziest weirdest shit that shit is so funny to me um but like when someone tells me a joke i'm always like i literally like even if i think it's really funny i'll just usually be like yeah that's really funny yeah i just i can't i have a hard time laughing at that stuff
01:24:44
Speaker
That's that's that's a good one, buddy. and Do you look at him serious face to? Yeah, but i like that's no mean, I'll be like, that's really funny. Her back. That's that's good. That's good. You know, like, yeah, you you almost it's kind of like, you know, like, um like an ER nurse or doctor, you know, you kind of become numb to you know like A normal person would freak out if somebody came in with a giant gaping hole in their stomach and an ER nurse is just like,
Struggling to Find Humor
01:25:13
Speaker
eh, and it is kind of well like you so I also used to work at the comedy club in town, so I'd just be there all weekend at the shows. you know and ah the
01:25:26
Speaker
I've seen, i feel like, every single joke premise at this point. you know and and so like When I see someone do like a truly original thing I have not heard, I love that. I really enjoy that. But then I'll be at a show and I'll be like, Mark Maron does that joke. Dave Chappelle does that. You know, like, like I just, I've i've heard it before, you know? um and, and that makes it hard. and, and this is not to say my, my girlfriend has very original premises. She does have a angle towards things that you don't often see from like women comics, which I appreciate personally.
01:25:59
Speaker
Um, but, uh, It's just, i don't know. It's hard for me to give it to anyone, really. I'll just literally be like, and I also, I'm the typical guy that's trying to fix problems rather than just letting people vent, you know? Yeah. ah So, like, she'll be like, this is my joke. And I'll be like, oh, this tag would be really funny there. And she goes, not looking for tags. You know? And it's just like, all right.
01:26:23
Speaker
Just tell me it's funny or not. Don't fix it. Yeah, yeah. So like when even like she does like a friend will be like, Hey, I'm thinking about this joke. I'll be like, Oh, it'd be really funny if you said this. And then I see him always just being like, it's not what I was looking for. And i'm like, but it would be funnier if you said that.
01:26:43
Speaker
Why don't you just do it if it's so much funnier? Because I'm not you. It wouldn't make sense if I talked about the black experience because I'm not black. this is Although that could get some head scratching. Yeah. You're like, what the hell?
01:26:59
Speaker
Some people might find it entertaining. i mean Yeah, the wrong people. That's okay. Laughs are laughs, all right? Yeah. Yeah, the same mentality as groans or laughs. No, they're not.
01:27:13
Speaker
No, they're not.
01:27:17
Speaker
early or Early on, have ah and I know, you know, i mean, yeah you've had to have eaten shit a time or two. There's times that just like always resonates in your head and just sticks in your head where like, man. Oh, man.
01:27:34
Speaker
i I've had a couple. I've got a couple. There was a show I did. somewhere I can't remember where i was. Somewhere in Minnesota. and
01:27:45
Speaker
a guy God, just thinking it about it. ah ah I would say a punchline and the guy would a guy would play the cricket sound on his phone.
Handling Disruptive Audience Members
01:27:57
Speaker
Oh, shit. And like that really sucked. And then he he also was a problem for the headliner, too. it was like I was going to say, were you that bad or was he just an ass? I was not doing well.
01:28:11
Speaker
ah So, I mean, sure, thanks. That's fun. ah But the thing is, is like i could if he did that and the audience liked it, I would probably like have like leaned into it and been like, ah, you know, but they were also like, hey, that's kind of rude that you're doing that. yeah We may not like him, but that's really me, you know, like, um but what sucked about that show was we we get there and it was it was a two person show.
01:28:37
Speaker
So I was opening the show doing 30 minutes and then the headliner was doing an hour. And so we get there and ah this guy comes up to me and he's just like, just like a real buttoned up guy He's like the chief of the fire department, I guess. And he's like, Hey, um the bar said I could do a guest spot.
01:29:03
Speaker
And so this show is booked by a gentleman who lives in Las Vegas. He runs this, ah he's got a huge a number of rooms all across the country. And so I'm like, he didn't, he didn't tell me anything about you doing this. And he's like, oh, no, no, I cleared it with the bar. cleared it with the bar.
01:29:25
Speaker
And so I was talking to the bar and i was like, she goes oh yeah, he's a regular here. He's funny. You know, he's the chief of the fire department. Just like, all right, cool. i went to the headliner first. She'd be like, are you cool with this? And he's like, yeah, I don't care. He goes, dude, that's the last time we have to do this place. Looks like it sucks. um And I was like, yeah, you're probably right. So I go up to him I'm like, all right, man, you can do five minutes. I was like, I was like, I'm going go. But because I knew he he told me he had never done. he'd only done comedy one other time.
01:29:54
Speaker
Uh, so I was like, all right, dude, this is how it's going to go. Usually i would have you go on after me before the headliner, but I'm not going to, because I don't want you to ruin the momentum for the headliner. Um, and so instead I'm going to go up and I'm going to say the rules of the show so that you don't have to worry about it. And then I'm going to bring you up and then i'm going to come back up after you to do my set.
01:30:19
Speaker
And so he goes up there and proceeds to do 20 minutes. About his very recent divorce. Oh, Jesus Christ. Just... And i'm sitting there and I'm like, oh, no, he's going to fucking bum out this room. No.
01:30:37
Speaker
He killed. He crushed. They loved him. He's like their local god. They like... I'm surprised they didn't lift him on their shoulders and chant Rudy, you know? Like, they're all just out there doing the fucking worm. It was crazy. yeah And... So then I get up there and I'm like...
01:30:53
Speaker
all right, ah here we go. um And like, they're just like, no cricket app, you know, ah um ah it got to the point for the headliner, even where he was like the headliner, like had this, like one of those like satchel bags, you know, and he was like, and that he was having an issue with that same guy. and he goes, Hey man,
01:31:14
Speaker
you know, I keep this bag on me because I keep a gun in here, you know, like fucking we're this like, I will fucking blast you, dude, you know? And I'm like, dude, this is getting, this is insane. Uh, and so then after the show,
01:31:29
Speaker
the headliner is like buddy, buddy with these people. Like, Oh yeah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm just like, man, you fucking traitor, you know? And so like, I'm like loading up my shit. Just like, fuck that guy. You know? And he comes up to me. He's like, you get paid yet? And I was like, no. Oh, so, so he's being nice to everyone. He's like collecting like their business cards. He's like, Oh hell yeah, dude. going to tell people that your business cool on my social media platforms.
01:31:52
Speaker
Um, and he comes up to me and he's like, you get, you've been paid yet. And i was like, no. And he's like, dude, let's get paid and get the fuck out of this heck ass town. You know, and I'm just, I'm just like, Oh, what dude, you were like chatting everyone up. I thought you loved them. he goes, no dude, I'm collecting their business cards so I can leave bad reviews on their businesses. I'm like, dude, that's awesome.
01:32:14
Speaker
That's the fucking move right there, man. yeah it's like That's like, I don't know where shows I ever did for sure. that's what That's what you keep in the back of your brain for when you have a shit show and then you just buddy-buddy and just use that. down the I mean, what I always like is like whenever – it's one thing like if you – if I was the only person to bad show, which has happened, that is – that's hurtful. That really sucks. You just feel – yeah, it's just like i I'm bad. Yeah.
01:32:46
Speaker
But when we all have a bad time, then now it's a bonding experience that we can all talk about. and like, it's not as bad. We're going to go out and get fucked up afterwards, have a little good time, um and just kind of lick our wounds a little bit together.
01:33:01
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and Like when you, if one person does good and one person does bad and they rode in a car together, that is a weird car ride. it's It's kind of like being in the car after mom and dad just had a fight.
01:33:14
Speaker
Exactly. get yeah Yeah, it's one thing with you. And also, you can you can all kind of, if everybody has a bad night, you can go, well, it wasn't us. It was the crowd.
01:33:26
Speaker
You know yeah yeah hit them with a reverse card. It was the crowd. We actually did we did great. The crowd sucked. Yeah, we used to always be like, yeah, we were soldiers of comedy tonight, guys. We did the job, and we got out. Nice.
The Chaos of Open Mic Shows
01:33:41
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nice i I don't know. we you know there's there's a there's a There's a time and a place and an audience for the for the sound effects. We do a Saturday show where it's just total anarchy. It's a six-hour long show. And my dumbass, a couple years back, came up with the brilliant idea of let's drop the link and let anybody come in.
01:34:05
Speaker
you know So now we we do the sound effects. But it's the right room. It's the right crowd to do sound effects. You mean like drop the link so like other people could join like the the like how what we're doing right now and not necessarily the chat?
01:34:17
Speaker
Yeah. and That's crazy. We put the link in the chat and I'm almost 100% positive we've had at least three serial killers on our Saturday night show.
01:34:32
Speaker
Not all of a sudden. but Yeah, because we we we get our normal crowd of our normal group of people that come in every Saturday night. But we we also get the – oh, I was just scrolling through YouTube and seeing you guys were live and seeing a link and decided to jump on. That's nuts. It's almost like a – it's almost a show in itself. you know like like It's almost like ah those that Omegle. I'll see clips of that on social media.
01:34:57
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Yeah, it it it really is. i mean, it's just, it was one of my, I think I put it up by accident one time a few years back and we just had so many weird people come in in one night.
01:35:11
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i was like, yeah, so we're doing every Saturday boys.
01:35:18
Speaker
And it's been funny, like when I have previous guests that randomly show up and they're expecting this kind of format and they walk into an absolute dumpster fire train wreck and everybody's drinking and having a good time and we're being gross and, you know, talking about God knows what. So, you know, but yeah, I couldn't imagine. I mean, I don't know how I'd react to doing stand up and some ass clown just dropping a crickets chirping.
01:35:46
Speaker
in the crowd. I didn't know how to react. That was that was bad. I'll take this mic stand and beat you within an inch of your life. Probably my my saddest show though was when i was doing a show in
01:36:02
Speaker
I think this is also in Minnesota. It's like eight hours away in Minnesota, somewhere in Minnesota, a small, small little town. And I was doing my set and there's two ladies in the front row and one of them leans over the other one and she goes, he's not very funny. And I literally was like, Hey bitch, I can hear you.
01:36:26
Speaker
You know? And she's like, just looked at me and I, and I literally said this into the mic and I, so cringy and i i literally think about it all the time i i said into the microphone this isn't fun anymore like a little girl like you you straight got your feelings just yeah i finished my set and then yeah luckily the headliner he had a good time so whatever but that was rough that was a bad one that made me go i don't
01:36:56
Speaker
And then on the way back, my engine just blew up. Oh, shit. So, like, my car got fucked for, like, two weeks. i had to get a whole new engine. Yeah, it was bad. i was like, wow, great. That was worth it.
01:37:08
Speaker
Yeah. but the The few bones I made, now I have to put into this stupid car. And some old lady hurt my feelings. Yeah, bad.
01:37:22
Speaker
I'm going to start smoking again. That's how bad my feelings were.
01:37:29
Speaker
I mean, a comedy audience, they they can be pretty rough, especially hey and when you're new in the game. Yeah, and I don't think they... This is like three months ago, man. Oh, never mind. That's like three months ago, dude.
01:37:47
Speaker
I was trying to stick up and make it sound a little bit better. Like, no, this just like last weekend, bro. yeah Yeah, this was... Hey, man, it's it never... You always have bad shows. It doesn't really get better. um But yeah, don't know. it's And I don't think that they ever like, I mean, don't get me wrong. There are people 100% intend to be mean with the stuff they say. ah But I don't think, think most of the time they're rooting for you.
01:38:15
Speaker
You know, like they want you to succeed because at the end of the day, they paid money to be here. So like, I know that I want to be, I want to get my money's worth. um But man, sometimes they can they can just get to you.
01:38:29
Speaker
Yeah, and I think it goes back to like we were talking earlier. Sometimes people just want to feel like they're a part of the show. Yeah. and It's like, no, If you want to be a part of the show, go put your time in and get invited to get up on this stage and and make your make you a little ha-has in front of people. Yeah.
01:38:49
Speaker
Also, you can just DM me that I wasn't funny. that I'm fine with that. I'll take that. Give me a follow and then tell me I wasn't funny. You know, like... Well, you say it all the time. follow is follow at the end of the day. yeah that just That just helps your algorithm. you You don't have to like us. Just follow us.
01:39:08
Speaker
know that'll help my algorithm because there'll be lots of other people out there that will like you outside of that one bonehead and my girlfriend gives me shit for like responding to comments on videos and i'm like it helps the algorithm helps the algorithm i don't care but don't dm just comment put it in the comment section it'll help the algorithm i tell people all the time you're watching the replays Drop a comment. I don't care what your comment is. It could be good. It could be bad. It could be how it whatever. Just throw a comment in there.
01:39:41
Speaker
Tell me how terrible I am. I don't care. That's fine. Who cares? Because I'll just turn it into more content. a Yeah.
01:39:51
Speaker
um Shit, I was going to ask you something else and totally forgot. Oh, okay, so this is more for the audience. Because I know i if they don't hit me with it in the chat, I always get it from people after the show.
Favorite Comedians and Their Influence
01:40:06
Speaker
But this is more for the chatter's box. um This is is kind of a cheesy, cliche question. For you growing up or even now, who are some of your favorite comedians and you know some of the comedians that you may look up to in the in the comedy world?
01:40:23
Speaker
ah Currently right now, my favorite comedian is Sam Tallent. um Just, God, he's so funny. he's He could look like he could be doing a show and there could be a blinking light and he could just do 20 minutes on this blinking light. it's he's easy He's a master of the craft. He's he's on my, i at this point have gotten to work with almost every single comedian I look up to. i have not got to work with him. And because I love him so much, I don't think it will ever happen.
01:40:52
Speaker
And I'm also kind of... i I think he's the one person I might get a little weird with. ah You know what i mean? Yeah. And then there's a...
01:41:08
Speaker
Not a lot of people know him. He had hit a special on HBO called Career Suicide. Chris Gethard. When I first started doing comedy, he's someone I really admired. He was he was a brilliant storyteller. um his His special, it like it had me crying. It had laugh. He's a master storyteller, which I learned later. He used to tour with Mike Birbiglia, so that kind of makes sense. um Kind of learned from one of the best.
01:41:36
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, man, who else do I like? Um, oh, why can't I think of her name? I love Jordan Jensen. I think Jordan Jensen's very funny.
01:41:48
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Um,
01:41:51
Speaker
I can't believe can't think of her name. Maria Bamford. I love Maria Bamford. She's a genius. One of the best, like she's like the craziest, just wild comedian I've ever met or I've never met her, but that I've ever seen.
01:42:04
Speaker
um John Mulaney. Everyone loves John Mulaney, big John Mulaney fan. ah and And I'm very late to the game on Shane Gillis, but I really like Shane Gillis a lot. Yeah.
01:42:18
Speaker
I know that you're a big fan Burt Kreischer. I don't really care for Burt Kreischer personally. But I will say his show on Netflix was really good. Which one? um ah Free Burt.
01:42:31
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was pretty good. like A lot of people were talking shit on it. And I was like, you know what? I don't like Burt Kreischer. And I loved this show. I thought it was really good. and my girlfriend loved it.
01:42:42
Speaker
I hope it gets another season. It was really good. Yeah, it was really good. He did he also did the first show that he had with where he was like up in the – I can't remember the name of it, but they were up in a cabin. in here He brought his friends out? Yeah, I like that show too. That was pretty good. Yeah, that was – what in the hell? That was really good as well.
01:43:03
Speaker
Actually, Miss Pat was on on on an episode of that. Yeah, he was in a hot tub, and she's like, what are you naked for? Yeah, i don know I am a fan of Chrysler. I like his, ah is we have that picture up there. That was on our on our social media. I wish that was actually Bert Chrysler in that picture, but unfortunately that was just ah an AI thing that one of our friends did. And i was like, I wonder if if we can get his attention.
01:43:33
Speaker
We haven't, goddammit. But um I do like Shane Gillis. So, um, You know, he's got kind of a wild story with the whole SNL thing and getting fired before he every really even got to start and then blowing up at SNL like, oh, will you come back?
01:43:52
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't know him before the SNL thing. I remember hearing about the SNL thing. Still didn't really know who he was. Um, and then I just, he, his, the special he did on Netflix, beautiful dogs, just kind of caught my eye and I was just saying, well, I'll check this out. I had no idea who he was. i was like, this might be the funniest comedian I've ever seen in a long time. Um, I don't know. I like Pete Holmes a lot. don't know if you know who Pete Holmes is. I think he's very funny.
01:44:20
Speaker
Um, his new YouTube special was one of the better specials I've seen this year. ah do you know the, are you garbage guys? Why does that sound so familiar? H Foley and Kevin James Ryan.
01:44:34
Speaker
Oh, okay, yeah. they They put out a special last year that was probably the best special of that year, I think. think it was called like Route 66 or something like that.
01:44:46
Speaker
oh yeah, I know exactly you're talking about. Yeah, I think I've come across them on ah on YouTube before. Yeah, big fan of those guys. think they're hilarious. And I'm just now starting to get in all the Skank Fest stuff. i Never really liked it until recently.
01:45:01
Speaker
My girlfriend got to open for Big J. And so then I started doing some like deep dives. And I was like, i actually like these guys. This is fun. The Skank Fest guys are are hilarious. ah Yeah.
01:45:13
Speaker
um yeah Go back to the radio station out of Florida that I listen to and Calta does. He has all those guys on. One of their DJs is actually a stand-up comedian. He got to do some stuff at Skank Fest this year our last year when they were down in New Orleans. I like Big J. Big J is cool. he's He's a funny dude.
01:45:32
Speaker
ah Yeah, my girlfriend said that he was amazing. he was really awesome. like Probably her favorite Green Room hang she's ever done. Hell yeah. Have you, with ah with one that you're just kind of coming into it with Skankfest or even like the the Kill Tony thing, it's just taking
Experience on 'Kill Tony'
01:45:50
Speaker
over the world. i mean, have you ever thought about trying to get on board with any of that or trying to do that? or I've actually been on Kill Tony.
01:45:58
Speaker
Oh, wow. You are another comedian that has been the show that has been on Kill Tony. I've been three or four of you now. I was on Kill Tony in, God...
01:46:10
Speaker
22, 23? can't really remember. I know it was like a year-end comedy. um Me and my girlfriend both got on. ah And that was a Yeah, that was a funny that's actually a very fun experience. that was I wouldn't say I got a lot out of it except for people...
01:46:29
Speaker
would recognize me a little bit because I worked at the comedy clubs. They'd be like, which one killed Tony? Uh, but other than that, just, I got to, just had a fun experience. i got a big notebook and I can brag about that for the rest of my life. so yeah hey yeah Yeah, I mean, put that on the on the old resume when you're, you know, booking. I don't, people, i don't actually. I found that a lot of bookers don't like it if you're on Kill Tony, so I don't usually, it's it's it's why you, notice how you didn't know I was on Kill Tony until you said that. Yeah, i had I had no idea. Yeah. I've had two or three other comedians on here, and that's like the very first thing I wanted to talk about, which I'm, I'll be 100% honest with you. um I'm kind of new to the tilt Kill Tony thing. Like, I kind of,
01:47:12
Speaker
fought it off for a long time because i didn't see the point and it's not even tony that i find all that amusing as much as the rest of the panel yeah yeah tony was tony was very nice to us um the the yeah it was at least that was a good experience like we did and my girlfriend both did very well um we had a very fun chat with tony he was very nice like kind like i was saying uh we got our notebooks and yeah then we we left and then for a while we talked about it and then we just kind of i started i a lot of producers were saying like
01:47:52
Speaker
Kill Tony isn't a credit because like, it's cool. I know you can do a minute of comedy. I'm not booking you for a minute, you know, or like, it'ss just it's just not, they're like, it's not a good credit unless you've been Kill Tony. Like a lot of times you're a regular and it doesn't matter.
01:48:12
Speaker
Yeah. i I guess I can see what I could, I could be kind of, yeah, go both ways. yeah Some, some bookers might be like, oh Oh yeah, you got that experience and that, know whatever but yeah because they only give you guys what a minute 60 seconds or something that it's a minute yeah just to get out there and be funny if not then know are you funny or is the panel you know with their little spiels that they do are they making making some people look funnier than what they really My interview was definitely the funnier part of my experience. I will say they weren't making fun of me. It's just, we, we got into a fun story that we had like a good time doing.
01:48:56
Speaker
But the it's, and man, I look back on it too. And I'm always like, God, I don't do any of those jokes I did in that minute. Like my minute now would be so much better. yeah uh and like and i might it's not so little i might be in austin in like october opening for guy open for sometimes at cap city and uh if that works out i'm going to maybe try to get on again just for fun uh because i know a lot comics who don't even like kill tony they're like i'm in austin i might as well like what you know what i mean yeah yeah the thing you're talking i'm here why not yeah
01:49:37
Speaker
Is it is it ah is it ah is it a like an all day event trying to get on there? Is there something that you can? um I wouldn't say it was all day. i know that.
01:49:48
Speaker
I don't know how early we showed. I remember we went to an open mic probably the day before at the Creek in the cave. think a Creek in the cave. And we were talking to some of the comics there and they were telling us to like, they gave us a time like the, yo, you want to show up at this time to sign up. Otherwise you're going to be the lines insane. You know, yeah we were, we were pretty up in line when we got there. So that, that that was actually really good advice. Um,
01:50:19
Speaker
Dude, the freaks that are at that thing, man. like I feel like we were surrounded by people wearing capes. you know but like And I remember they were telling us that 200 people sign up for this thing every every time.
01:50:33
Speaker
um But it was July and it was like the hottest day of the year in July. It was disgusting. So i so that the the number of people who signed up was like 100 instead of 200, which I think really helped the chances there.
01:50:50
Speaker
um And then, ah yeah, and then you just, you you sign the second you sign up, you don't have to stand in line anymore. You can just you go do it. Oh, yeah.
01:51:01
Speaker
Yeah, i don't I don't know if the place exists anymore, but there was like a bar, like a block away where they had an open mic called Minute to Win It where you can like do your one minute before the show starts.
01:51:12
Speaker
um And then, yeah, we did that. And then we went. And then actually, my girlfriend got called and then she did her shit. And then she had mentioned that she was in town because I was in town um visiting family.
01:51:27
Speaker
and uh they're like oh your boyfriend does comedy let's get him up here so then she got me up there which is nice yeah so you had you had an in man oh yeah yeah well we talked about it beforehand we're like if you get on if any of us get on we'd mention the other person Absolutely. That's the only way to do it. Otherwise, you're dead to me. well it's it's just like that It's funny if you watch the if you watch the the video.
01:51:58
Speaker
Her name gets called. and then so i don't know how they do it at the Vulcan now or and at the at the mothership, but we did it when it was at the Vulcan. and so like There's cages that they put all the comics in, which is a metaphor in itself. you know ah um but so There's these two cages that all the comics are crammed into. and uh they like open the door for you if your name gets called right and there's a camera that's like because there's like a these two alcove entryways and there's a camera and so the camera pans over because she's coming out of the cage right and i'm right behind her and my face is just
01:52:37
Speaker
you just just just yes Like, are you fucking kidding me? Because I was a fan. She had no idea. i was a fan of the show. i was like, you've got to be fucking kidding me. ah and then she brought me up and i was like, all right, that's cool. you know its Just deadpan the camera. It was like her sixth time doing comedy. And I was like you bitch. Yeah. you serious right now? yeah
01:53:11
Speaker
That's awesome.
01:53:14
Speaker
Oh, man. I think it's great that you guys, you know, that I'm sure i'm sure there's some underlying, like, competition or maybe not underlying but i think that's really great that both you guys are kind of doing the same thing but you support each other and don't let that get in the way you know like yeah it's not like it's definitely taking a turn for the better not like she just got offered a really cool opportunity um but her car she isn't she she can't do because like my car is like good you know like you know it's a good car. Her car sucks. um We can't really afford to get her a new one.
01:53:50
Speaker
And so ah she doesn't, she can't really do anything too far away. Right. and so she got offered this really cool opportunity to work a club that I've not, haven't even got to do yet. I've done it, but not in the way that I want to do it. And ah she, and it's an opportunity that, you know, a couple of years ago I might've been like,
01:54:11
Speaker
Why not me? You know what I mean? But she got offered this opportunity. And because I don't have anything going on that day, I was like, fuck, I'll drive you. Yeah, right. You know, like, why not? Mm-hmm. And then they tell the club, hey, I cleared it with the comedian. I can do five minutes.
01:54:27
Speaker
No, no. It's not about me. It's not about me. I'm just, I'm happy that she gets to do this. Because at some point, you know, maybe she can help me get in there. yeah exactly that's that that nice that that that built-in partnership you know she can she she has a good show and and they really like her she can go you know i i know a guy and he's pretty damn funny he would kill yeah you know you should yeah so yeah that's awesome man
01:54:55
Speaker
um i want get ready and wrap up i don't want to keep you too much longer um i do want to say Again, you know thank you for coming on. Thank you for reaching out, dude. i it was It was awesome getting to know a little bit more about you and um getting to hang out with you.
01:55:13
Speaker
Everybody that's watching, whether it's replays or however you guys are watching, go check out Trevor. He's on all the social medias everywhere. I know I got it in here somewheres. Yeah, no, I got it. There we go. That's the one I wanted.
01:55:28
Speaker
Right there. The my my girlfriend slash stage producer. She got all your all your links here in the chat. So if you guys are watching the replay and you scroll over to the ah you scroll over to the live chat, you'll see all the links there.
01:55:43
Speaker
Also, if that's too much work for you and you're already following us, I've tagged him and everything. I made your job easy. All you gotta do is just click. And follow me on Instagram. That's the one that I need the most right now. That's the one I'm trying to build.
01:55:59
Speaker
Yeah. Instagram is the, uh, that's the one right there. That's the one I need. That's what I'm behind on. yeah That's, that's, that's the one that, uh, we use and abuse like crazy. I love Instagram. It's probably as much as I hate social media. It's probably my favorite out of all of them.
01:56:18
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Um, I think it's the most user friendly and, uh,
01:56:26
Speaker
For what you know, what we do here, i think it's the the best. I mean, I'm able to reach out to musicians, comedians, whatever, and vice versa.
01:56:37
Speaker
and And it's so much smoother. Facebook is an absolute nightmare. so Yeah. I know they're the same company. how can How can one be so great and the other one just be dog shit? Fuck you, Zuck.
01:56:50
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, watch out. Don't get us up. Don't get us up. You've been there before. You're not even monetized. Who cares? Yeah. Yeah, we're trying to. Yeah. We're trying to um to. Before I let you go we get out of here, man. I know this is kind of cheesy, a little cliche. I don't give a fuck. It's my thing. It's what I do. Yeah.
Pursuing Happiness in Comedy
01:57:16
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life advice and then advice for anybody thinking about getting into comedy what's what's what's what's some advice you would give or something somebody gave you that's really resonated through the years life advice uh i mean just do what makes you happy at the end of the day and if what makes you happy is no longer making you happy anymore to something else that's making you happy um But, i be God, that's also bad advice because I also look at, like, relationships and I'm like, sometimes happiness takes work, too. You know, don't just quit on something the second it doesn't make you happy anymore.
01:57:53
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um But for comedy, 100%, make friends. That's really big. It's something that I really struggle with and it's something that I think really hinders me. Yeah.
01:58:05
Speaker
and I need to be better at. And, uh, I think that like all the, kind like there's a comic, uh, that I've been like working with kind of recently. ah he's, he's funny enough. Right.
01:58:17
Speaker
But he's so fun to hang out with. He's such a good vibe. Uh, and he gets so many opportunities from it. It's crazy. Um, and I just, I, I would like to be more like that. Um, and then also, uh, do it.
01:58:35
Speaker
Just do it. Like the don't like the amount most of people I've met that are like, I want to try it. And I've seen them come to open mics like a million times and they never get on stage. And it's like, just fucking do it. Cause the second you do it, you're going to want it again. It's that easy.
01:58:51
Speaker
Yeah. You hear that? I'm not an asshole. When I tell people don't talk about it, be about it. Cause he literally just said the same thing. Yeah. Just do it. Yeah. Just do it. Yeah, I like that. yeah I say that a lot.
01:59:03
Speaker
Just do it. Shut up. Nobody wants to hear you talk about it. Moshe Kasher, there's a book I read. I think it was like 15 Comedy Voices or something. And he said, it was like these comedians giving like their biggest pieces of advisable comedy. And his was, if you can do anything else...
01:59:23
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Do that.
01:59:29
Speaker
And if not, then this is what I have for you. you know as ra If you can't, if this is absolutely the last thing you can possibly do. if now i yeah That's crazy. ah Now, again, man, a thank you for coming on, Trevor. It was awesome.
01:59:46
Speaker
I think you're awesome. I don't mind your mean, angry face. and Tell your girlfriend that you're fine.
01:59:53
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Because when he smiles sometimes and when he smiles, it looks like he's going burying bodies later.
02:00:01
Speaker
and you i always I always like catching up, so down a road, if you want to if you want to come back on or if you're interested, the door's always open, man. I always like to catch up down the road. and If your girlfriend is interested, I'd love to have her on too.
02:00:17
Speaker
Right now, like I said, I'm slammed until October. But if she's interested, you know love to have her on and and chat with her. and You know she's got to be a different different style and a different mindset than than you, I would assume. Oh, yeah. 100%. Way different speed. she's like The one thing that's really nice about her dynamic in comedy is that she is the the friendly one, the the personal one. So she really runs a lot of damage control for me, which is awesome. that's awesome uh guys make sure you check out trevor um on on instagram go go follow the instagram even if you don't like him just follow him and then tell him don't like you and then he'll make more content yeah i will share that it's a win-win you get to tell him how you feel and he gets to make more content and grow the instagram page um
02:01:15
Speaker
Anything else you want to throw out there? Upcoming shows? Uh, any, any other, anything else you want people to check out before we jump off here? No, I think that's it. Just follow me on those things. I put out a lot besides, I put out other stuff besides standup. I do a lot of like talking head stuff. There's some old sketches I used to do. and plan on some more sketches in the future too. So.
02:01:37
Speaker
Oh yeah, there you go guys. um Check out Trevor. Show him some love. uh, might be on you know He might be coming to a town near you. Go check him out. Go see him live. Go support him that way. my website. All my dates are on my website.
02:01:50
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Yeah, there you go. Make sure you you talk and do crickets and all that stuff throughout a show. Yeah, I will love that. I totally don't carry a gun with me now. yeah right um Make sure you guys check us out. The Nonsensical Network. We are everywhere. Bio.link slash Nonsensical Network. If you guys want to support the show, help us do what we do, you're more welcome to. Tune in tomorrow night for Speedway Stories.
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Wally and Johnny will have Evan Collins and Devin Scott on talking tough trucks. I don't know how that's any different from rough trucks, but I don't i miss that i don't do motorsports shows because I don't know shit about that shit.
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so Thank you guys for watching. Thank you guys for hanging out. Thank you again, Trevor. We're going to end the show with a little Kissing Lilith. Why? Because I love this song and i love this video. So if you want to hear a kick-ass song and watch a really crazy video, former guest of my music show, feel free to stick around and watch the video.
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It's wild. Hit these buttons and we're going get the flock out of here.
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To love, to love
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So take, to paint The details of a portrait That illustrates the colors of the sins I've ignored Digging deep and traumatize the limits Come on, won't you cut me open?
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Don't you scratch the surface I'm digging deeper, tell me I deserve this, come on won't you cut me
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My sweet lady to have my soul to keep Waste, degrade, ashamed Foundation on an eyesore Her majesty is gently knocking on my door again Pretend to sleep And dream about her offer And suffocate myself and drown little
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Digging deeper, traumatize the limits Come on, won't you cut me open? Don't you scratch the surface I'm digging deeper, tell me I deserve this Come won't you cut me