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Understanding Somatic Healing | The Positively Healthy Mom Podcast with Laurie James
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Welcome to The Positively Healthy Mom Podcast! I’m your host, Laura Ollinger, teen and parent well-being coach—and today I’m joined by Laurie James, certified somatic practitioner, coach, author of Sandwiched, and host of Confessions of a Freebird podcast.
In this powerful episode, Laurie shares her deeply personal journey through caregiving, divorce, burnout, and healing—and how somatic experiencing helped her reconnect with her body, her emotions, and her true self. We dive into nervous system regulation, stress recovery, and practical somatic tools you can use today to calm your body and shift out of survival mode.
If you’ve ever felt like your body is holding onto more than your mind can process, this conversation is your invitation to slow down and finally listen.
💬 In This Episode:
• What is somatic healing—and how does it work?
• Signs your body may be dysregulated
• Laurie's journey through caregiving, motherhood, and divorce
• How to complete the fight-flight-freeze stress cycle
• Simple nervous system regulation tools you can use anytime
• Why burnout often shows up after everything “seems fine”
• The importance of rest, body awareness, and micro-moments of calm
• Grounding, orienting, and vagus nerve support techniques
• How moms can stop overriding their own needs
• How to teach teens self-regulation without pushing them into shutdown
📘 About Laurie James
Laurie James is a certified somatic practitioner and coach who helps women navigate midlife transitions with more calm, clarity, and connection. After raising four daughters while caregiving for her aging parents and experiencing the unraveling of her marriage, Laurie turned her healing journey into the memoir Sandwiched and now supports others through somatic coaching, nervous system education, and her podcast Confessions of a Freebird.
🔗 Connect with Laurie James
🌐 Website: laurieejames.com
📸 Instagram: @laurie.james
📘 Facebook: Laurie James
🎧 Podcast: Confessions of a Freebird
📥 Free Guide: Beginner’s Guide to Somatic Healing (link in show notes)
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🌐 positivelyhealthycoaching.com/podcast
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Transcript
Introduction & Guest Welcome
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Welcome to the Positively Healthy Mom podcast, where positive parenting meets wellbeing.
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Hello and welcome to today's episode of the Positively Healthy Mom. I'm your host, Laura Olinger, teen and parent wellbeing coach and founder of Positively Healthy Coaching. Today i have Lori James, who is a mother, divorcee, recovering caregiver turned author,
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Certified Somatic Practitioner and Coach and Podcaster.
Lori's Book & Personal Journey
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Lori's podcast, Confessions of a Free Bird, was inspired by her youngest of four children leaving the nest and is the sequel to her book, Sandwiched, a memoir of holding on and letting go.
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Lori's book is about her journey from loneliness to finding belonging during a time when she was raising four teenage daughters. Her mother had a heart attack and needed care all while her marriage began to crumble. Now Lori helps women who get to get through divorce, heal and date differently in midlife. She blends her coaching and somatic training to help her clients develop a better relationship with their bodies and nervous system. Doing so allows them to find the inner freedom to experience more happiness, joy and create the life they desire.
Challenges & Parenting Stress
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So Lori, this is amazing. I'm super excited to talk to you today.
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Thank you. Well, thank you so much for having me, Laura. um Yeah, that that's a mouthful. And, um you know, it doesn't come without a lot of story and a lot of history.
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um but yeah I know that your podcast is all about teenagehood. So maybe I'll start there. Yeah. And because one of the things I really wish is i wish I had some of the tools I have now when my kids were teenagers and when I was going through this very difficult time in my life that I write about in my book, because it really covers an eight year period of time.
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Like you said, when I was raising my kids, I was caring for my mom. My dad was not able to care for my, ah for my mother.
Somatic Dysregulation & Body Impact
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And then my marriage began to fall apart. And, the and,
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parenting in general is, can be very stressful in the somatic world. We call that dysregulation. you know, our bodies are dysregulated because we're living in a state of stress. We're trying to make sure that we're doing the right things, feeding our kids, the right foods, getting them to their practices, doing the laundry, keeping everybody's schedule together. i mean, just talking about that. Yeah. You know, I feel like a tightness in my chest. It's a lot. It's a lot. And so what happened to me is i didn't, I didn't have, i so my journey really started with it in my mid forties, which is part of my book in terms of, you know, my spiritual, my, um,
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my spiritual practice, my, I, you know, I started getting into energy work, um, therapy, all of that, because i was kind of looking for, Answers, right? When things start going wrong in our lives, we look for answers. And, and I was grasping of like, maybe this is the answer.
Introspection & Healing Journey
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Maybe that's the answer. Maybe it's something else. And I was doing a lot of learning and growing.
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I think it's important for us to be introspective. yeah But sometimes that's hard when we're living in survival mode. Yes. um But through that, so spoiler alert, obviously I do leave my marriage. That's kind of happens at the end of the book. There's all kinds of very rich, funny, sad, heartwarming stories about, you know, crazy caregivers that I was dealing with that were emotionally seducing my dad and stealing from us and drinking on the job and
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And also a lot of it was also me figuring out what I needed because I had given so much. And I think as moms, we do, we give so much, we give to our husbands, we're giving to our kids and we kind of forget about taking care of ourselves. Yeah.
00:04:20
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Yes. And so what happened is I, my kids get launched. My kids are all older now. um and I have four daughters. My third pregnancy was a set of identical twins. So that was a surprise in itself. Wow. So I had four kids under the age of five. yeah Um, and so what happened is over time, all that stress took a toll on me.
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oh I do leave, ah you know, I cared for my elderly parents for 14 and a half years.
Health Crisis & Recovery
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I, um, I do end up leaving my marriage again, spoiler alert, but, um, I was a doer. I'm still a doer, you know, I, and our society rewards us to get things done.
00:05:07
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Right. And we're also pushing our kids, you know, get the grades, get the, didittada get all these things, but that can overwhelm our bodies and our nervous systems. So what happened to me is i was saying, i left my marriage.
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I was starting to coach. I was writing my book. Um, my divorce ended up being final. I had bought a house and with literally within two or three days after my escrow closed on my house and my divorce was final, I ended up in the hospital, not once, but twice within two weeks.
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And it was, my body was shutting down. and I even said to ah a good friend who's also a therapist, I said, everything is good in my life, but I feel stressed.
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And so my body shut down. it started with back pain. um i developed vertigo. i um They couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. They were running all kinds of tests and they were giving me medication. And I i believe in Western medicine, but I also do a lot of holistic um treatments, chiropractor, acupuncture, herbs, all of those things. And so my body didn't react well to these very strong
Somatic Experiencing & Therapy
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medications. So they were chasing my symptoms, ended up back in the hospital. I finally got myself out of there, ended up back in the hospital again,
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Eventually they diagnosed me with migrating arthritis and, um, an unknown virus, right? Cause I had these hotspots. Long story short, as I start getting better, I do fully recover. It takes me six months. I lost 14 pounds. My blood pressure was down. I kept passing out. I was severely anemic.
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Oh, wow. Um, all these things, And my, this same friend that I um had shared that I was stressed, she's a therapist and she said, you need to go see Bob. And okay, so Bob, he's a therapist, PhD, but he's also a somatic experiencing practitioner.
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And so I started and I had been in therapy, talk therapy before, but we worked from a body. So just to take a step back here for a minute, what's somatic experiencing? A lot of people are talking about nervous system regulation. A lot of people are using the word somatic.
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But um so somatic is derived from the Greek word soma, which means body. Right. So it's literally in the literal sense, it's body experiencing.
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So we're experiencing what's happening inside the body. So that could be the tightness of the chest. That could be, I have a lot of tingling in my body. That could be the gurgling in my stomach, right? You know, whenever I get on a podcast, there's a little, act we call it activation, little nervousness that I experienced. Not nothing like, you know, years ago when I first started doing it, but you, you feel it. And so, um and so often, especially when it's very,
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in our kids or within ourselves. like I know you have a lot of parents, but like you hear some bad news or from one of your kids or they they come home, they're upset. And you know, you might feel a tightness in your chest. You might get a pit in your stomach. Yeah.
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Well, so that's our nervous system saying, okay, this is dangerous. This feels familiar. This feels similar to something that happened in the past, even though that it may not necessarily be as dangerous as our body is signaling it to be.
Nervous System Regulation Techniques
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So when we can stay with those sensations and notice them, What we're doing is we're completing that fight, flight, and freeze response. This isn't something that is taught to us. So when you, going back to my story, when we've lived in survival mode and we're living in this go, go, go, do, do, do, productive
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world that our society rewards us for, there's no room for us to even take five minutes and just check in with our bodies. Like what's going on? What am I feeling? And the more that we can do that, the more what what we're doing is we're regulating our nervous system throughout the day.
00:09:46
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The newest part of our nervous system is called the vagus nerve. It's the it's the ah longest nerve in our bodies and it's connected to all of our organs, including our stomach, which is why we get that gut response. It has receptors there. And then it sends the signal up to our brain and then our brain goes away with our thoughts and oftentimes will reinforce our that feeling of this is dangerous. I need to get, move you away. you know, you can't talk to Joey anymore or, or the car accident or whatever it is that, you know, we're experiencing in that time. And so, and when we stay in that place for too long up in a heightened state of our sympathetic nervous system, our bodies can eventually move into shutdown. And, and it's a, it's a protective state. My body was saying, this is too much.
00:10:43
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I'm going to shut you down so that way you can rest. Yes. Yeah. So warning, warning, listen to your bodies, everybody. Cause I didn't know how to back out of it.
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Oh, I didn't know how to back out of the stress that I was experiencing, but my body did. Yeah. Yeah. It forced you to shut down. It forced me to shut down. So I took everything off my plate. I took everything except for my house. I was doing some work on my house and I focused on my health and I continued to work with my somatic practitioner.
00:11:20
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And that and and I had as I got better, i i completed my coaching training and. um And my my SEP, my somatic experiencing practitioner, Bob said, you should really do this training. And I had found.
00:11:38
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so much, I mean, it was a profound healing process for me is doing this work. And the beautiful thing about a lot of this is it's often simple exercises that we're not taught to do.
00:11:56
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who So what would be, um you know, you have this mom who's, you know, the classic, were all we we've all well all done this where we're just running around like crazy people.
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What are the things that they she can do or we we can do proactively? And then what are the things that we do reactively when we noticed like, oh my gosh, we are just over the top right now. Great, great question. so So those fall into two different categories. The proactive would be what I would call nervous system regulation. um So there's different things that you can do there. One, often um when I'm working with somebody, just create a list of things that um help you feel more present and pleasant.
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Right. So that could be going for a walk with a friend. And there's there's a lot of value in that, especially for women that could be going to a yoga class that could be going to the gym. That could be literally walking your dog and taking the minute to smell, stop and smell the flowers.
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One thing that I used to do another thing that I would recommend is if you're sitting at school or you're sitting at a practice and you're waiting to pick up your kid and and you're there early, just take a minute in your car.
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and just feel where the seat is supporting you underneath you. Feel where the back of your chair is supporting you. Feel where your feet are touching the ground.
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And then just notice any sensations that you experience in the body because sensations are the language of the nervous system. You can't tell your nervous system to calm down, but you can show it by, oh I'm noticing, like I said earlier, noticing sensations. I'm noticing I'm shortness of breath.
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Can I just notice that for a minute without judgment? And if I pay attention to it, see what happens.
00:14:12
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99% of the time you're going to then take a beat deeper breath. And that is showing your nervous system. It's okay to down regulate. It's okay to come into more of a rest and digest state because our nervous systems are not meant to vibrate at this high level all day. It's meant to, and as if, if anybody's just listening to this more of an up and down roller coaster throughout the day. Can we come up? Can we do go walk the dog, take the kids to school, exercise and come down and just take five minutes, even two minutes to just rest after that exercise and just check in with the body. And then maybe we come up and we do house chores or we go run errands.
00:14:58
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And then we come down and we sit and actually be present with our lunch for a moment. And then we come up and we go pick up our kids and we do our activities and run all the, you know, run all the the carpools or whatever it is that everybody's doing.
00:15:15
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and then can we just take a minute? And if we do have that five minutes, just rest, like come down. So that's one thing. And then also throughout the day is making sure you are bringing, doing something for yourself. You know, even when my kids, when I was raising my four kids, you know, exercise was always really important because it was an outlet, stress outlet.
00:15:37
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um Yoga was one thing that really worked well for me because it allowed me to just focus on my breath and movement. not Yoga is not for everybody. um But even and and if if anybody listening has a meditation practice, as you're meditating and you're sitting there, notice the sensations in your body. Turn inward and not just focus on the thoughts, but check in with the sensations in the body. And that can help to regulate your nervous system. And then, so that's the...
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the first proactive The proactive, the reactive things are somatic practices. um i do have a little um nervous system beginner's guide to somatic healing that people can download. And I also have like a, you know, an inexpensive $29 nervous system regulation kit. That's great for people that that's got some practices.
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um And I'm also on insight timer and I have, Oh, you are? good Yeah. So if anybody's on Insight Timer. i love Insight Timer. Yeah, it's great, great app. And so I have some somatic practices, but, you know, again, just that basic grounding stabilization.
Vagus Nerve & Stress Regulation
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Another really great one to help signal to your nervous system that you're safe is... We call it orienting and just take a minute and just look around the room that you're in. Or if you're outside, you know, just look around and just let your eyes land on anything that's pleasant or present.
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Could be like right now I have a beautiful orchid on my desk. I've got a picture of my daughter and her fiance that got engaged recently. Just things that bring... a little joy and then just check in. It's like, okay, I'm just noticing, you know, just coming down into more of a relaxed state.
00:17:34
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Um, so those are all, those are like simple. There's, and there's another one. If anybody's ever done, um Ohm in a yoga class,
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ah in In somatic experiencing, we do a VOO sound, a V-O-O sound. Okay. And we can do it together. do you want to do it here? Yeah, of course. So we'll do it together and um we'll just take a deep breath in and then we'll just do a VOO. And we want to do it as deep as we can and kind of feel it down in our diaphragm. Okay. Okay.
00:18:09
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um and we'll do that nor we'll just do it once for time purposes but typically we do it three times and then just notice the sensations in the body afterwards and then i'll explain what it's doing after so cool here we go take a breath in the
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And then we just notice any activation in the body, any sensations, maybe even notice where you're making contact with the chair, the floor.
00:18:50
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I tend to have a lot of tingling in my body and activation and you know, everybody's going to be different.
00:19:04
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But what that does is that that deep vu sound is it, um it can, it affects the vagus nerve, which is the nerve I was talking about earlier, which is the longest nerve in our body.
00:19:24
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And it can provide activation. So if we're kind of tired and we need activation, but it can also be very calming. yeah. um to the nervous system as well.
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And everybody is going to be different. um But um that's just a great exercise just to kind of stabilize the vagus nerve. And it signals to that nerve, which has tentacles out to all of our organs and up to the back, ah ah to our amygdala and to the to the stem of our brain, that you're okay.
00:20:01
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that we don't need to be up into our fight flight freeze state that we are okay. And we can be more down in a rest and digest parasympathetic state.
00:20:17
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I love that. Any like, of those simple things that people can do can just make a world of difference. And I feel like having that one in the back pocket of anybody yeah is great. Well, thank you.
00:20:31
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Thank you. Cause you can do that while you're driving your car. You can do that in the shower. um you know, in the orienting one I often do first thing in the morning, you know, just to give myself an opportunity to adjust to,
00:20:49
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The day, the morning, our eyes have been closed all night. Let me just give, even if you just do it for a minute or two, it's a really great exercise because we don't want to shock our nervous system. We want to, again, allow it to, like a roller coaster, come up and down throughout the day.
00:21:08
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Mm-hmm. was giving a sleep presentation back in January. And when I was doing my research and you know creating this talk, the idea about how so many people set their alarms and not just that, that the alarm is a shock to the nervous system, but then if you snooze, you're just doing it to yourself again. yeah, yeah exactly.
Stress Response Cycle & Balance
00:21:29
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It's literally like traumatizing your nervous system first thing in the morning. Yeah. Right. So ideally, yeah, you would just wake up like with natural light or just like another more soothing way. Like, would you have any other better ways to like wake up in the morning?
00:21:43
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I, you know, i think what you said is perfect. Like if you, it's hard because especially if you have kids that have zero period or have to, you know, or commuting to get to school a ways it's hard not to, but yeah, just give yourself a few minutes. And if you could not push the snooze alarm or not use an alarm at all and let your body naturally wake up, that is huge i think some of the other things is getting that natural light in the morning without contacts without sunglasses and allowing that's going to also activate your circadian rhythm and allow your nervous system to more naturally wake up because here's the other thing that vagus nerve is the newest branch of our nervous system but it is 200 million years
00:22:34
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old Our nervous systems, our technology, and the rate at how fast our world is advancing, our nervous systems cannot keep up with it. That's why we need to take a break from the computer, take a break from our phones,
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be out in nature, just going for a walk. Or if you live in an area where you can go walk out in nature, it is instantly calming to the nervous system. And then if you can then add in the five senses of, you know, can I smell the flowers? um Can i um see? What do I see? What do I hear? What do I smell? What do I taste? What do I feel?
00:23:26
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Those are all really great, easy ways to slow down the nervous system and bring us back more into a homeostasis or or more balanced of our nervous system.
00:23:42
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Yeah. Yeah. This is all great. There's one more thing I wanted to kind of circle back. um You said it and i just wanted to make sure we capture it. So you talked about when you feel, and I assume it's like related to an unpleasant feeling yeah to just um kind of allow it and notice it.
00:24:03
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um And then you kind of said like 99% of the time, it just like it it dissipates or can you kind of go a little bit deeper into that part? Yeah. So when, when we get that restriction, we get that pit in our stomach, that's our nervous system signaling that this is dangerous. And typically it is using, um, you know, ah our brains are a database, so it's, it's using past information and there's a part of our nervous system called neuroception. And it's always looking as a safe, as this dangerous, or is this life threatening?
00:24:38
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And so it's using both of those. it's always It's always working in the background. It's scanning. And so when we get that that feeling, it's signaling to our nervous system that this is dangerous. Right? And it's what's it it and it's we need that.
00:24:56
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Because it's what's kept us alive. It's what's kept us to survive, but we don't have the dangers. Again, going back to that nervous system is 200 million years old. Our newest part, it doesn't know.
00:25:10
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Our nervous system doesn't know real danger to perceived danger. So if it's perceived danger or something that feels dangerous, it's if we can complete that threat response that our, that our nervous system has just put us in which is the fight, flight, or freeze nervous system and be with it. And we complete that cycle by staying with the feeling it will complete. And when it dissipates, it's completing that cycle. And what that also does is it teaches the nervous system of,
00:25:46
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Okay, I don't need to move away from that feeling because when we move away from it, it stays stuck in our bodies. And and when it stays stuck in our bodies, things like what happened to me can happen. We feel more dis-ease in our body. We create, we have more anxiety. We have more fears. We have more phobias.
00:26:04
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and And then eventually we can disassociate and our body shuts down. But when we can complete those threat responses in the moment, or sometimes if you work with a practitioner and you've had a lot of traumatic experiences,
00:26:21
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um We have, ah you know, more specific, deeper tools to help people come out of that. And slowly um it teaches the body, okay, this, this is a perceived threat. It's not a real threat. And when we can complete that cycle, I can come back down into ah a more, that natural, more homeostasis state. Yeah.
00:26:43
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Okay. That's perfect. Cause that's the part I was like the missing piece where yeah if somebody can't do it on their own, that would be a great time to use a practitioner because then they help them process through that and then allow that. Yeah. And what, you know, what also happens is Peter Levine is as individual that I'm trained under. Oh yeah. I know Peter Levine. Yeah. Yeah. He's, you know, it's two two and a half year program. It's um and he's awesome. He spent 50 years researching this and and putting this program together. But um and also Gabor Mate and Stephen Porges, they all talk about it's not.
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that traumatic thing that happened to you.
Healing Trauma Somatically
00:27:29
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It's what stays stuck in the body and the nervous system, right? So if we've had a traumatic experience, whether it's a car accident or, um you know something happens to one of our kids or something happens to one of us,
00:27:45
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um we can heal that somatically without going into the story. We go into the body and we do exercises like we talked about, but, and we've got a whole toolbox of of exercises to help people slowly release. Sometimes it's just called touching the edges and we slowly release that out of the nervous system. So that way they can come back into a homeostasis state.
00:28:14
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That's perfect. Okay. Well, I think that kind of brings me kind of towards the end of yeah my thought process. In fact, I'm closing my own loop right now. Yeah. Beautiful. Conversation in that, how do you most help people with what you do as a coach jam and a practitioner?
00:28:33
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um You know, I, how do I help them? That's a really good question. I, I help them develop a relationship with their body because most people And this was something that I've had to do over the last 10, 15 years of my life, because when we can develop that relationship with the body and but through all the things that we talked about, we are more in tune with what it is that we need and we can help to, we can learn to self-regulate our own nervous system. But also when we spend time and slow down what's happening, we can connect more deeply with who we are
00:29:17
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better understand how we're showing up, whether that's people pleasing or overriding what our needs are. So we can be more authentically ourselves and then be able to bring that out into the world and be that in their relationships, in their families, in what they want to do in their life.
00:29:42
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So that's... That's it in a nutshell. It's always like, how do we come back to ourselves and yeah And, and heal some of those past experiences. because We've all had them, right?
00:29:56
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It's just how we deal with them. Yes. I love the part about, um, So i give ah I have a presentation that I give to high school and middle school students, and it's called the decider.
Self-awareness in Decision-Making
00:30:10
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And talk about like wearing masks, and one of the masks, you know, there's the bully, and and there's the people pleaser, and there's the avoider. And, um you know, that's kind of just such a common theme, especially with girls and women, to be that people pleaser. Oh, yeah. Kind of your idea of like just noticing it and and kind of being aware of it. Like, how am I feeling in this moment? And then that's kind of like that a self-awareness is then when you can, you know, to play off the title of my speech, like decide. Yeah. Might want to take a different path and not do the typical path that you've always been doing. Right. And to kind of like shift into a new mindset.
00:30:46
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self and a new yeah yeah yeah and what i would even add to that that's beautiful and i love that you're working with teens to to bring this awareness at that level because i didn't learn this until in my 40s but check in with the body right that intuition what is my body even if you're miss attuned and you have had some trauma or you know your teens have been bullied or they're not super confident going out into that social situation we want to do it in small tolerable steps so we don't overwhelm the nervous system again because that's just going to put us back to square one or minus one or two when we could just do it in small doses but really checking in with the body like what is my body what is my body telling me i should do in this moment can i go to that social event or can i Or should I
Final Thoughts & Resources
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stay home? Or maybe I just go for an hour and then, you know, I have my mom pick me up or is on call in case I feel like I need to come home or whatever it is.
00:31:50
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Yes. Okay. This is the perfect, perfect way to wrap it up. So how can people find you going forward? Yeah. So um i I have a free guide, um my beginner's guide to somatic healing, and um it's got exercises in there. And i I believe you'll add that to the show notes. And then my website, which is Lori, L-A-U-R-I-E, middle initial E, last name James, everything is on there as well. And I'm also on Instagram and LinkedIn if anybody needs to find me there.
00:32:22
Speaker
Yeah, we'll add all the links for sure. Well, Lauren, thank you so much for the time. i really appreciate you sharing your wisdom with our audience and giving just like, I love just the everyday things that people can start doing. You know, as soon as they listen to this, they'll probably start doing things in their car. They're going to be doing the boo and the yeah the deep breath and kind of just feeling things.
00:32:41
Speaker
So yes, thank you again. Thank you for having me.