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I've always loved inclusivity - Episode 17
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Philly Matt on the pod!
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Transcript
Introduction and Personal Reflections
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ah I'm also a kind of judgy. Yeah. Like, I see, I try not to be, but I do catch myself. deserve And that's part of the reason why, like, I never tell people I have a podcast, because if someone said that to me, I'd be like, oh, get this guy away yeah What's going on everybody welcome back to Philosophony the podcast with deep talks and dumb jokes.
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The beginning of this one got cut off but my guest today is Philly Matt my best friend from college his government name is Matt Boyle and yeah hope you enjoy the pod.
Balancing Work and Personal Life
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But what I was talking about with my friend Oscar is that like when you're because we had we had debatably like too much free time in college and now that like He finds, and he's a harder worker than I am. I got to pick up my, and it even comes to like exercising, but especially like with a job, like when you do have a job that you're working hard at, like you seem to like just value your free time a lot more because you have way less of it.
00:01:04
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Yeah, definitely. I'm also on way more of a schedule now because I was not on a schedule at all in college. but being on a schedule and like having a routine, at least for me has been very beneficial. Just like kind of even getting in the right mindset for work.
00:01:25
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Like I'm getting ready to sell my soul for eight hours and then come back. I have like three hours of free time. But one, one thing that I think you told me before is that like,
00:01:40
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You have like a way easier time like staying in for like one of the nights on the weekend because like you have been working hard all week. And i think that'll help with the transition from glamour to soul.
Finding Joy in Simple Activities
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It also is, yeah, I guess um it's easier to do boring things now, like watch a movie with my parents or something. and Just because I'm, like today, I'm pretty hungover today because I went out the last two days.
00:02:10
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there and that's like one of my two days I have off is yeah shot because I'm just feeling terrible I know and I definitely do a lot more much more movie watching with my parents even just like spending time with my family I used to see as like lame but now I really don't mind it which is probably a good issue I enjoy like I played tennis with my dad I watch a decent amount movies with them but yeah And I've been...
00:02:42
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Trying to like accept more of like the boring, mundane, ordinary. Because I think they are enjoyable, but just like everything seems like boring companioning compared to like going out and drinking with your friends.
00:02:55
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But you can't that all the time. So you you got to find peace with the other things. And they are enjoyable. Like exercise makes me feel better. I love watching a good movie. It still feels like lame to do on like a weekend night, but I enjoy it. So I don't really...
00:03:11
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It's more of like, yeah, if you enjoy it, then that's all that matters, I think. Yeah.
Fitness Journeys and Goals
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Even like hiking is so boring, but I love That is like one of my favorite things to do now. And it is literally just like walking in the woods.
00:03:31
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Yeah. But it is a great, I love it because it's one, it's outdoors. Two, you can do it with your friends. Three, it's like exercise. There's like just a, there's nothing bad about it in my mind.
00:03:45
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And you feel great after. Like that day we went into like Shenandoah and did that like rock water slide. And you just feel like you actually like did something with your day. Yeah. We were at 80s that night being like, these people are all pieces of shit. They didn't know.
00:04:00
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Yeah. that They have no idea we did it. for i
00:04:09
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But it's true. Like once, and I'm, I'm, I used to be like in college, there was like a good, i was pretty good about going to the gym and I, I lost it.
00:04:19
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like I lost it completely. I'm getting it back a little, but I will never have like the, I don't know if that's true. i Yeah, I do. I will never have like the fire for like working out that I did then. i don't even know. It was cause I was like actually genuinely like really out of shape in the beginning going to like decent shape. But now I'm like, I'm good enough.
00:04:45
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I don't care. Which is partially, like, it's good that I think I'm, like, in good enough shape, but, like, it just... I signed up for a half marathon because it was the only way to make me do anything.
00:04:58
Speaker
Yeah. Wow. When is that? I'm doing it the weekend before Memorial Day when I come visit you. Oh, okay. Because I... When I first started weightlifting, like I was chasing being able to lift 225 and then I hit that and then i just stopped carrying. So I need, I feel like it's very important to have things to chase.
00:05:19
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So I gave myself one. I've been going to the gym more, but I don't have goals or anything. It's just to like, so I don't have to wake up and go right to work. Like I have done before, which actually i love doing that. I know so like it doesn't work for some people.
00:05:35
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It's not wired that way. But I go to bed at probably 10 and wake up at like 5.30. here ah Having time before work, like having time in my day before work makes the day so much more enjoyable.
00:05:56
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Yeah.
Impact of Weather on Mood and Motivation
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I, yeah, I went to bed at 10 last night and then I slept in until like 11. I used my alarm for like three hours straight. I just...
00:06:11
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I don't know. i might The bed is so comfy and everything else is just so much work. yeah But I'm going to lock in again. I've done it before and I know I'm capable.
00:06:25
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Yeah, that's surprising. It's like a winter thing too. I don't know. I'm trying to figure it out. and i It's temporary. Like it throws you off the winter or it's more...
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Everything just seems like so eerie and like scary. And then like, if we have like one sunny day after a couple of weeks and I'm like, am I going to be okay? i got yes I feel so much better when the sun's out.
00:06:53
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And my roommate, he's weird for this, but he says it's like ideal weather is like cloudy and like 50. fifty And when it's cloudy and 50, I'm just like going through the motions.
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Yeah.
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And it's like studied like there's seasonal. it's It's kind of really funny that the acronym is like sad, but it's like seasonal something depression. But it doesn't mean so bad.
00:07:22
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Yeah, that's like that actually hits everyone. I would guess everyone, but you can like people are angrier in the winter.
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I'm one of them.
00:07:37
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I'm one of the sads. And my apparently vitamin D is like a pretty easy solution. At least partially. but you Is that from the sun?
00:07:48
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Yeah, because you get vitamin D from the sun. And especially on like the East Coast, like the sun is not visible for half the year. So you still need that. Yeah. My dad takes it.
00:08:02
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Oh, like supplements? Yeah.
00:08:06
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I have it in my cabinet, but I never take it.
00:08:11
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I refuse to help myself.
Social Connections and Changes (Q&A)
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You saw Megan and Christian? Yeah, they were, um, they both and Sophie and Kira. And damn whole gang. I know.
00:08:27
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Did they miss Billy? Yeah. Christian came down and Megan came up and they stayed at my house. And then we went into the city yesterday. It was so nice. it i was like, everything is going to be all right. Getting out of beer garden, playing cheers for the governor.
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Beer gardens are fun. Yeah. My family likes to go into one around here. I also, this was like a couple months ago, but I was just like,
00:08:59
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And I, yeah, like I have my remote job. I have two days of like my internship and then classes. And by the end of it, I especially surely in the winter, I'm just like, I'm done.
00:09:10
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Like I can go one night, but like, it does feel like I'm in the real world and it's less fun. you I had i just like I was going through that like over and like weeks on end and then my friends from my hometown visited and it was just like a fucking like breath of fresh air and it really umm not someone who like really I don't know I've always like kind of had friends so I never really realized how much like i need them and I like like spending time with them but
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Like moving here, I pretty much do knew no one. So when they came, i was like, I like that. I should do that more. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds kind of very intimidating.
00:09:59
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Because I love the area here and I have some good roommates, but they're just like a couple of years younger. And I do. And it's good in some ways and it's not in some ways, but I'm just like.
00:10:15
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like I've always had like a core friend group. and here um You remember how Dugan would kind of just always like like do a bunch of different things with a bunch of different people? that was yeah I'm doing like more of that. and it's
00:10:30
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It's not bad. You have like more freedom in like choosing what you want to do and when. I miss my friends. that
00:10:40
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yeah Definitely benefits... to doing both things. i wish I was more like that, but I'm not at all. I know. I always, and I like, I wanted to be like this for a long time and it is like early. I've only been here for a couple months, but there's something nice just knowing about like your weekend plans are like made just because like your friend group is always doing the same thing. Yeah.
00:11:08
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We, and we always throughout my life, I don't know why this happens. But they, I wonder if it's like a me thing. I've always like had a friend group, like a mix of guys and girls where I know like a bunch of guys that like only hang out with guys.
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Yeah. i
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I think I'm more, more of what I know is a mix, I would say, but.
00:11:37
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And I think I like the mix. But it's like the saying, no matter where you go, there you are. Like I went from JMU and I thought like I might, you think like you move somewhere and you might be like a completely different person, but it's like, no, you end up forming the same exact like habits, whether it's like friend group, you hang out with what you do.
00:11:59
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and it's interesting. Yeah. One thing that we, like my friend group that from high school, I guess has been doing is like, in high school would be like rigid like this is our group now everyone just kind of invites people and it's pretty loose at this point which is so much better i like that a lot better me too I yeah I've always hated like rigidity and I've always liked this is I don't even think this is true like I've always liked inclusivity that's gonna go on my gravestone
00:12:38
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But I agree, like, why can't, like, everyone have fun? And I think most people are, like, cool people. Like, the only people I think that, like, I don't want to hang out with are, like, the people who, like, are exclusive.
00:12:55
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And it's happened to me. I joined a club here, and it happened over the summer. Like, people are always trying to, like, form a cool kids group. And I'm at the point where I'm, like, i genuinely, like, leave me out.
00:13:07
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I don't like the rigidity and like, cause those people are the waste people. They're always like making fun of other people rather than than just like having a good time. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.
00:13:24
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And yeah, I, something that I think is a big part of like this stage of our lives is like, there's no like, And I have a little bit of one because I'm in school, but it's not like I'm in college, college. Like, because high school, like, it was like you see the same group of people every day, college, same thing. But now it's like you have a lot more freedom in who you see.
00:13:48
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And sometimes I miss, like, no, I
Authenticity and Personal Growth
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don't. I actually really like it because you can kind of just, like, be whoever you want to be. And it becomes, like, very clear that, like, it really doesn't matter what other people think of you, especially when you don't have to see them every day.
00:14:03
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And then you can just – I'm working on letting my freak flag fly.
00:14:08
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Yeah. ah It is hard to do. I listened to your, like, mini pod about it. It is – it is Like, it's almost, it feels innate to, like, want other people to like you.
00:14:22
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Yeah. and desk Sorry. I think it is, but go ahead. I definitely, like, i wouldn't say struggle with it, but that's definitely something that's on my mind.
00:14:34
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And I don't do something that's, like, non-conforming. Yeah. And I'll be like, that was fun, but... Like if I saw someone do that, I think they're, I'm also a kind of judgy.
00:14:49
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Yeah. Like I see, I try not to be, but I do catch myself. deserve And that's part of the reason why, like, I never tell people I have a podcast. Cause if someone said that to me, I'd be like, Oh, get this guy away.
00:15:02
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And and I'm working on like, I got like, you got to assume the bet. And I remember you were dead. Right. But in college one time I was like,
00:15:15
Speaker
hating on like apple watches because they just like irk me and you're like you're a hater and i'm like i know i am i'm trying to get better i hate apple watches i do too on girls they're okay but i see a guy with one and i don't really like it at all yeah it looks like a toy my my dad has one with like my mom's old like band on it and it
00:15:43
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it looks like like a woman's apple watch and i'm just i i love them though my dad listens to the pod my mom's starting to listen to but yeah i be becoming less of a hater is big for me and like because they're really and i talked about this with drew but it's like Things, some things are, like, you can't help but cringe, but I'm trying to, like, second-guess that.
00:16:12
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Because, like, also, like, my my mom, one time I was talking to my mom about something similar to this, and she's like, I love corny.
00:16:23
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Like, sometimes I'd watch a movie, i'd be like, ah, this is corny, and don't like it. But, like, if you, like, can learn to love corny, then... It goes a long way. And it's kind of the same thing with like cringe.
00:16:35
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But like... Because corny is like heartwarming. And cringe people are often the people who like aren't afraid to be themselves. And they're having like more fun than anyone else.
00:16:46
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Yeah. I went to a bar this past weekend. And I was just like... I wasn't, yeah I was like barely, I didn't even drink, but like just being in the bar, you kind of just have the freedom to like be weird. Cause people are like, Oh, he's just drunk. But I was, and I was just being like insane. And it is a lot of fun.
00:17:08
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And if you think about it that way, it's like the only thing preventing you from doing that is just like, like you need the excuse of being drunk because you feel like you're going to get judged if you're not just kind of annoying.
00:17:21
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Yeah. It is. does make it easy to do insane things. yeah know. I kept like hitting this kid I didn't know, but telling him to do a dance move, it was very funny.
00:17:36
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But also, i have the same thing with cornyness. he Once I even get a hint of something or someone really being corny, I can't get it out of my head, and it ruins everything for me.
00:17:51
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What, you just that can't be around it anymore? It's not like it's unbearable, but it's like I see it in everything that, like if I'm watching a show, I'll see it in every scene after that. Or if it's someone, it's like everything they say. I'm like, what the hell?
00:18:07
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Recording people are awesome. Yeah. They're more genuine. Way more. And I genuinely, this is another way where it feels like I'm I am.
00:18:18
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I'm making progress, but it doesn't feel like it. Because i I used to like constantly be like, that's corny. But I really like never say that anymore, which is definitely progress. Yeah, definitely.
00:18:29
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And one of my roommates, one i don't even know if it's corny. The word I'd use is like wholesome. but it's, I love it. Cause it's, and it's like innocent and like people grow up and they just like hate on everything. This kid's like the most positive kid I've ever met. He doesn't really like hate on much. He's always just like finding the positive.
00:18:51
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One time we were going he like hit his head really hard. He's like, I don't even care. Look at where we are. You are amazing. I love you. Yeah, that is crazy.
00:19:02
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It was crazy, but it's it's true. Like, I don't know if it's true. It's like a glass ah half full of water.
00:19:14
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It's like, and i say I think being positive, it's very, like in high school, I was probably an extremely negative person in beginning of college.
00:19:25
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And that's probably a big part of like what I changed And it took a long time to start like trying to be positive. But yeah, and I still I'm kind, I'm definitely less negative. But I also like, I like being noticed that I love being around positive people.
00:19:44
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And I hate being around someone who's just like a negative Nancy. Yeah. and That's also sorry. Sorry. One time was skiing with this kid and he was like, my head hurts. Like my ankle kind of feels off. And I wanted to like push him off to chairlift. I was like, I'm having a good day. And you're like, suck.
00:20:04
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You're like, what's that boat? You're like, you're taking water from my bucket right now.
00:20:12
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What are you going to say? um That's kind of, not sure if we talked about this earlier. i feel like we did. um Like being lucky. Like, I feel like I'm a lucky guy.
00:20:24
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But that's, I'm not. It's just the way that you look at it. Like, noticing the good things. This is kind of sounding like I'm hyping myself up and it's not what I was intending. Go ahead.
00:20:38
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You deserve Like, just noticing the things that are good and, like, holding on to them more than holding or noticing things that are bad that happen to you.
00:20:48
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Like, kind of just changes your changes your entire outlook and it makes it easier to be, like,
00:20:56
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noticing like continue continuing to notice them and i also it does make it feel like it happens more often when you notice it yeah and i watched a podcast it actually and her direct thing was like ask someone if they think they're a lucky person and it'll tell you like a lot about and it's kind like goes back to like the hero victim thing mm-hmm But it's not it's also different than that because like, yeah, like you said, youle it's like more like the red car theory. Like when you notice a red car, like you'll start to see them everywhere. And it's like when you start to like pay attention to the good things happening to you, you'll see them everywhere.
00:21:31
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And it is.
00:21:35
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and I think it makes a massive difference. Another thing.
00:21:42
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that I don't know if I'll ever get to this point. Maybe I will. I think I will, maybe. But, like, they say to me, like, you should be very intentional about, like, who you spend your time around, and I'm definitely not there yet.
00:21:55
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I've made a little progress, but it seems, like, wild to me to just, like, cut someone off. Yeah. Even, like, yeah. Yeah.
00:22:07
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None of my friends are people that I'd be like, I want to be exactly like you. And I don't think they would do that to me either. But I kind of like us, like like the ah makeup of the group, I guess, because we're all different.
00:22:25
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here Unlike any group. And that's still something I'm grappling with. It's like, I... Like, there's always going be things you don't, like, want, like,
00:22:38
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people are different you'd like yeah and you don't like have to be the same as someone to like be friends with them because sometimes like i'll love like nine out of ten things about someone and then they'll do one thing i don't like and i'm like should i cut them but you gotta like weigh it rather than fucking like yeah it's pretty funny i don't think i've talked about this ever when i was in seventh grade i
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um i had like this best friend and then this other friend we were both like really good friends with but he was a dick and i genuinely like this person and we one day we were like and he was like bigger than us but i don't know So one day me and the other kid, we like went into the library before school and like we crafted a text. We're like, we're not your friend anymore.
00:23:33
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if yeah And then we just like waited for the bell to ring and we like scurried into homeroom. But it was so like, it was so like dramatic, but that that genuinely like was a good decision because that kid sucked.
00:23:48
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i I'm trying to be better and He was probably going through his own stuff, but that kid sucked. Like, he was dick. We'd, like, sit at the lunch table, and, like, I'd tell a joke, like, kind of just to him, and then he'd, like, look to the other side of the table, and he'd retell my joke. Oh, no.
00:24:08
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He deserved it. Yeah. And genuinely, i um I do not regret cutting that kid off at all. But then... I was like, I'm feeling hot off that one. And then like well another one of my best friends, he was like a dope guy. I asked him to like hang out on a Friday and we didn't like have much to do when we were in like middle school.
00:24:27
Speaker
was like, want to come to my brother's lacrosse game? And he was like, no, not really. And I was like... well, I don't want the kind of friend that doesn't want to hang out with me. And I cut him off. And like the next Monday, he's like, like, is that for real? Or like, can we be friends again? i was like, we can be friends again.
00:24:45
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then a month later, I cut him off again. And he was such like a good guy.
Friendship and Shared Experiences
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And then ah week later, after I cut him off the second time, i was like,
00:24:58
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Like, can we be friends again? He was like, no. And I honest, like, it was an an important lesson for me because he i don't blame him at all. It's like, fool me one time, shame on you. fool me twice. Like, can't put the blame on you.
00:25:12
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But, and it was genuinely like, if he forgave me, I probably would have like kept doing it. But he, it was because of that kid, I learned my lesson. But that, like, I always loved that kid and I was always regretful of that.
00:25:25
Speaker
But I'm glad i learned that lesson. Yeah. And I'm still learning it a bit with like the weighing the pros and the cons. And my another thing that like i used to be friends with someone and like we like just become close and they'd be like, oh, well, I've known that kid forever. And they'd like weigh that heavily into like how like much they care about that person.
00:25:51
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And for me, when I was a naive little idiot, I was like, that doesn't matter at all. Like we have way more fun. But I think it does. Like when you've been through things and I, I'm not really close with like my day ones anymore. Mm-hmm.
00:26:07
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But like I have friends from like high school, more like from my camp in the time I was in high school and i have friends from high school that like, yeah, it's like once you've been through enough with someone that if they do like one thing that's like a deal breaker, I think it's more of like a three strike policy.
00:26:26
Speaker
Yeah. That. Yeah. I definitely weigh that. Like that takes probably precedence for me. How long I've known someone into like how much or i guess how important they are to me not even how long i've known someone but like the amount of shit that we've been through which usually correlates with how long you've known someone and i also something i realized when i came here it's like i kind of want to get my like shit together
00:26:59
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But like if I get my shit together, like my friends here are just going to like see me as this like normal guy, which would just be like a complete lie. like Like I want to get my shit together and like still hang out with the people like you and our friend group from college. Cause like you guys, like we had our crazy years together and that's like something that that you just like.
00:27:22
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Because if you, I feel like if you don't have like crazy years together, then it's just like, why don't you go like small talk your way through the rest of your life? Yeah.
00:27:34
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It's like when like wives are good friends and then their husbands like hang out and they're just kind of like casuals.
00:27:44
Speaker
Terrible. I know. That's like my biggest fear.
00:27:50
Speaker
You just have to hang out with this dude all the time. but you like And it doesn't even seem like they make an effort to like really get to know you. Maybe it's like you just don't like the guy.
00:28:03
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yeah Do you feel like you know where your life's headed?
Future Directions and Personal Aspirations (Q&A)
00:28:07
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No. Yeah, I feel like I have no idea. I think I think about my future too much.
00:28:15
Speaker
That's another thing I'm definitely getting better at. I used to like drive myself crazy. i was like, where am I going to live after grad school? But now I put zero thought into it. Probably more of like a balance, but I, it's so much better on this side of the coin.
00:28:30
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yeah Cause like something could happen like right before school ends that changes everything.
00:28:39
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It's like a Mark Twain thing. It's like a lot of us worry about things that never end up happening. And it's just a complete waste of time. Yeah. that I genuinely have no idea where my life is going. And I think about it all the time.
00:28:54
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Like at work. Just all the time, really. And it does like makes me anxious because I'd like to have some idea at all.
00:29:06
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Yeah. And I don't know. I do like I want to end up where I am, but and don't want to stay where I am.
00:29:14
Speaker
Wait, you want to leave soon and then come back? I don't know. I don't know anything. I don't even know who i am ah fifth I think I'm very glad I left my like Boston for college and again because I you kind of like come to appreciate what you like about where you grow up and you've always seemed to be fond of Philly but like when I was in high school and I did kind of grow up in like a bubble I'm very glad I got out so I could see like the bright side of like
00:29:46
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where I grew up. Because the mind, it seems to always focus on the negative, but when you go somewhere else, you tend to be able to see the positive. Mm-hmm. Remember when we planned we were going to move to Hawaii together after college?
00:30:01
Speaker
Freshman. I was laughing at you and Drew talking about it. That makes me, like, very sad to think about. Not that it was, like, a solid plan, but we were, i like, when i when we were making that pact, I was, like, all in.
00:30:16
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Yeah, was probably like month two of us. And I was all in and then just, I don't know what happened.
00:30:28
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Life happened. Yeah. ah I was all in. And then i kind of thought it was going to happen all freshman year. here I was still down.
00:30:42
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Yeah. But I went, that's a stretch. I wasn't like, I just senior. like I hope we're still going to Hawaii.
00:30:51
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I actually don't think I could live there, though. That's so, like, isolated. And that's, like, you live in a cooler spot, I think. he It's hard to beat Hawaii, but.
00:31:03
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Hawaii, yeah. This compared to Hawaii, I've never even been. But like Hawaii is like maybe the one place where I could give up everyone I've ever met. just like like And it's not true. I'd get there and I'd be like, what do I do?
00:31:16
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But just like cliff jumping, surfing. They say like their island is just like getting ruined and all commercialized, but I'm sure you could find some good spots.
00:31:28
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Yeah.
00:31:31
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I'd love to get into surfing one day. I don't know if that'll ever happen.
00:31:38
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That would be so cool. That like, also the type of guy that surfs is like who you want to be or who I want to be. Yeah. Like the chill that there's not a lot of things more chill than surfing.
00:31:50
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Yeah.
00:31:53
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Apparently you can do it on the East Coast, but it's just everything on the East Coast is a lot more like gritty. Yeah. excuse Yeah. That was the other one I was thinking of. It's like, it's way better other place, but you can do it here.
00:32:09
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Yeah, that's right for most things. And my brother said he loves the grittiness, which I, it's entered my mind and I'm still mulling it over.
00:32:20
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I definitely do like the grittiness, but it doesn't mean you have to like, like I took, I'm i'm still gritty, but I came out here and still have the, I have like the better conditions.
00:32:34
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But I don't know. I don't know anything. I hate the grittiness. I don't, I've only faced the grittiness. Huh? I've only skied, like skied on those mountains.
00:32:48
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Yeah. And have you, like, been up to, like, New England and s skied? No. Only the Poconos, I think. That is gritty.
00:33:00
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to I think that if I skied anywhere else, I would ruin the Poconos forever for me. he You might. And you see, like, people who, like, me and my brother came out here, and I don't even know what this says about anything, but, like, we were skiing, and the people on the mountain, like, it just, like,
00:33:20
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It looked like,
00:33:26
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I don't know. They had no idea what they were doing. They were like sliding down the mountain. And I was like, it just felt so foreign to me. Yeah.
00:33:36
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I don't know. I feel like most of the skiers that like on the East Coast mountains have actually like been skiing a while. It's not just like their first day and they've paid $500 do it that day.
00:33:47
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who But if hes if you yeah if you skied at another mountain, you might hate the Poconos. You wouldn't hate the Poconos forever, but it would be... It would be it would change things.
00:34:02
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I already don't love it.
00:34:06
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Just because like knowing that there's better ones out there, I'm like, fuck you, stupid Pocono.
00:34:13
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I know. The views out here are very nice. And you're going to come ski out here and we'll hash these together.
00:34:25
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Then I'll never go back. Fuck the Poconauts. Poconauts a nice little town though.
00:34:35
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Besides that, people who got murdered. Yeah. Was that close to us when we were in your house?
00:34:44
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Like 15 minutes. just kind of crazy i think the poconos is like a huge area and i i don't know what it is but like i'll hear that and i still like it doesn't like it just doesn't feel real to me so i like would never be scared because the girls are like lock the door and i'm like we never locked the door was like all right they caught him we're good they yeah If any killer tries to kill me, it's going to be ah is easy like getting to me, and then we'll see what happens.
00:35:18
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probably You're probably going to catch me sleep, but I'm a very light sleeper because I'm such an anxious fuck. like if someone walks in my room, I'll be like... They'll have a gun, but I'll be like... and But even like...
00:35:31
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i I kind of just like block it out mentally. Like for the listeners, it was, we were staying in a ski house and someone got like murdered like 15 minutes from where we were staying, but I still like would not lock the door one because it doesn't feel real.
00:35:47
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I don't know what you're talking about. Actually. ah thought you were talking about something else. Didn't someone get murdered in the Poconos? The guy that killed the college students.
00:35:58
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Yeah. Yeah. They caught him there. Right. Oh, but he didn't do his work there? No. But, yeah. We were there when they called him. We were there?
00:36:09
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and i was there. I don't think that was when you were there. That is terrifying. But it just... I hear something like that and it just doesn't even feel real so I don't adapt.
00:36:22
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Yeah. That's like... That happens with a lot of other things in my life, too. I know. I don't want to take it to like ah dark place but here we go like I like I've heard like my grandma like just got sick and I just I feel like it does like no impact on me because I don't even like let it in and there was another song one of my family friends had like died when I was home and it just like like it has to be like real for like a week or more for it to like weigh on me because I feel like I just block it out yeah
00:37:01
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I still haven't processed graduating college. Yeah. That one didn't...
00:37:13
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I'm past that, but I just... I don't know.
00:37:20
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Like, it just doesn't feel real.
Cultural Reflections and Travel
00:37:22
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I don't know None of college actually felt real at this point. Yeah, it's hard to... ah It feels weird that, like, that was just, like, that blip...
00:37:31
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Compared to like the rest of life. ah We had like unlimited freedom.
00:37:39
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I think we did it well. We got a bunch of good stories, which in my mind, it's like, what else could you really want? We got good friends and good stories. Yeah, that is true.
00:37:51
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But it is hard to move on.
00:37:56
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When I first got here, it took me like months to even like, I'd been here for like three months. And like someone said to me, he's like, you live in Colorado. i was like, no, I don't. And i was like, oh my God.
00:38:07
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well Yeah, that is crazy. I don't even know what I'm doing. I'm just, I mean, like I'm in school. I'm like, ah I guess I have some sort of plan, but it feels like I'm just like bouncing around.
00:38:21
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Yeah. Do you want to go back to Boston when you graduate?
00:38:27
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I'm starting to think I do.
00:38:31
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And kind of for like what I said, like I, like even JMU people are all East Coast. And not that it's like hard to like get, like at the four hour flight, like yesterday morning I was in Boston and then a couple hours later I'm back here.
00:38:48
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But I don't know, the people are very different.
00:38:52
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aye I think everyone like likes what they're used to. Because I was talking to this kid from California. He's like, yeah, people are fake on the West Coast. But like I hate Boston. I'm like, bro. ah You like fake?
00:39:05
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But I think genuinely people are just like more comfortable like in what they're used to Which is partially why I value like exploring. But I think it'll just make it that much sweeter when you come home.
00:39:17
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Yeah. Hopefully. know what you're missing. I have a better idea of what you're missing. Yeah.
00:39:29
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But, and there were some people that, like, think, could you ever live in another country?
00:39:39
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Yeah, I think I could. I don't know how Europe works. Do they all speak English? Sort of. Most of them...
00:39:52
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In places, we went to like the Netherlands and pretty much like I, in Belgium, it was like, it felt like we weren't even abroad, like, not that it didn't feel like we were abroad, but like everyone spoke English. So it wasn't like that weird.
00:40:05
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But like, and I think that's most Europeans can speak at least a little English.
00:40:15
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But it's not like, imagine this, like speaking a different like language and coming to America and you genuinely like, someone like came up to me and started speaking Chinese. I'd be like, I don't know. I'd flip out the translate app.
00:40:31
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Yeah. I think people are, have a pretty basic understanding of like Spanish here.
00:40:41
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i But it's definitely above that in Europe for English. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, that is crazy. It is pretty much like English plus whatever language they actually speak.
00:40:54
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I don't even... I don't know why that is. I don't really think it's an America thing. But it does feel like we would just like refuse to learn another language.
00:41:04
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yeah Yeah.
00:41:09
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But i i think I could live in another country, but I don't really know if I would want to anymore.
00:41:18
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What do you mean you could? I think I could survive, but... And I... I don't know. America has a lot of problems and it does make Europe look pretty nice, but...
00:41:34
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Yeah. I don't know. Definitely have a lot of problems. i kind of just assume that's with everywhere, though. Which actually is not true. Right?
00:41:46
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think it's particularly bad right now. Yeah. There is this British girl who came to like DU through like an exchange. And I was like, we were talking about just like the difference between England and here. And I was like, what do you like? i was like, do you like it here? She's like, yeah. you know What do you like about it? She's like, you guys always say like, bless you. And someone sneezes.
00:42:11
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i was like, that's it. Yeah.
00:42:15
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That is crazy. right And she kind of was like, yeah.
00:42:23
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Like everything else is better than England. Besides, we consistently say bless you. Doesn't the food there suck? I eat weird food.
00:42:34
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eat like beans on toast.
00:42:38
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That's enough to keep me here. My roommate is British. And he's... Does he have an accent? He says being instead of been and like a couple other words like that, but not really.
00:42:52
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He showed us a video when he was like nine or 10, like a video when he had an accent. and I was like, you're lucky you don't still speak.
00:43:02
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Come correct when you're talking to us. I know. I don't even know what I meant by it, but it was. That's funny.
00:43:14
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I do like girls with British accents.
00:43:18
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I'd probably still be scared to talk to them, but I do. I fancy the accent.
00:43:24
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That's... um White Lotus has a couple of those. Are you watching that? My mom won't stop talking about it. I watched the first season it was alright, but... Yeah, I'm watching it. The first season,
00:43:37
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i It's crazy. The shit, I mean, and the all the seasons are crazy. Like, just random shit's happening. I was talking to Christian about it. This probably won't mean anything to you since you're not watching it, but it's funny.
00:43:51
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And the listeners might know. Christian is convinced that the monkeys are going to kill someone.
00:43:58
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Are they just, like, normal monkeys in that environment? He's kind of got me convinced, too. What is his argument? I don't even know what it's talked about, but. but They're just on an island, right? It's like a resort.
00:44:11
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Yeah. um I think they're in Thailand for this one. It like switches the location each each season. I liked the the lady in the first season. She got so famous off that with like the one who's just kind of like a bitch with like the weird face.
00:44:31
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She's blonde. Sydney Sweeney? No. The old one. The really old one.
00:44:39
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Oh, Jennifer Coolidge. I think so, yeah. It was big before that. Oh, really? She's in season two. Really? Yeah. I don't remember it at all.
00:44:52
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My memory in general is pretty bad.
00:44:57
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ah Yeah. mine is Mine is for some things. Some things I'll remember, like really insane man new minute detail.
Abilities, Hobbies, and Feedback
00:45:06
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detail
00:45:09
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One thing I'm curious about is like, you know how people say like your beliefs like inform, like if you say you have a bad memory, then you'll just like have a bad memory. Like I never really trust mine, but I've started kind of more to be like, no, that didn't happen. I know what happened.
00:45:25
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And I feel like now i my memory is a little better. Really? Yeah. Like, if you say, like, I'm a bad, i'm bad at math. And my my mom always says this. and I'm like, you, maybe you're not great. But, like, saying you're bad at math, definitely, like, because every time math comes around, she's like, ah.
00:45:45
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And I, I, i I like did business because I was like good at math. And these days, like if someone will like basic problems will come up, like people are like, what's eight times like four.
00:45:56
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I'll just have like no idea. I want 32, but there's other examples where it's just, I think it's like a muscle. If like you don't use it, then it just like, yeah it's weak and it dies.
00:46:08
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My dad's a big believer in that too.
00:46:12
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And honestly, I can, I, There's some times where I'm like, oh my God, what is happening to me? But there's other times where I'm just like, I just like, I don't do a lot of math anymore. And honestly, I'm fine with that.
00:46:25
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Yeah. I don't know. I do feel like I, it's hard now that I'm not in a learning environment to not, like, i feel like I have to work and spend time like to learn stuff, which is kind of hard to do.
00:46:44
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But I think most things that are like worthwhile, you have to like learn. Yeah. have a guitar. Can you see it sitting? Yeah. And I played a little bit over the summer, but I just, I'm kind of at the point where if something takes a lot of effort, I don't do it.
00:47:01
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Which I'm trying to get past. I've been learning guitar too. No way. Yeah. Keep going. That's all right. There's like five songs I know.
00:47:13
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Are they like easy ones? Yeah. It's so aggravating. I don't know if you've had the same experience, but it's so aggravating. I love like when I'm doing like a new song, I could play that one.
00:47:28
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i think it's like, I'd come back. if You just call maybe. Oh yeah. Jersey giant. Yeah. I can play that one. I'm like, this is awesome. But then like after a while, like I just, you get bored of it. And then when there's no like easiest next song, that's when I get pissed.
00:47:43
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yeah but playing a new song like i could play wagon wheel very slowly and that was cool but yeah if you get to the point where like you can just like rip zach bryan songs that'd be pretty fucking cool it's so like i'll listen to a song and i'm like oh i should learn this and then i try to learn it and if i'm not like getting anywhere in the first 10 minutes i'm not doing it anymore Well, there is definitely like progression. like Some songs are a lot easier than others.
00:48:13
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I found a website I can send you that like ranked like easy guitar songs and it had the notes.
00:48:21
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i might I use one that has the notes for it. It might be the same one. What's it called?
00:48:29
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probably saw this off-mark even I don't play.
00:48:38
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Ultimate guitar.
00:48:48
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Yeah, that's the one I use. life But that way, I feel like if you, and it's kind of like like like anything, you just gotta to be like consistent for a very long time.
00:49:00
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Yeah. They say, like everyone I've seen, also like watch videos on songs sometimes. Yeah. But they are everyone's like 90% of the people I'm making up that number. I don't know what it is, but 90% of the people quit within the first year.
00:49:17
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who And I'm like trying to get to one year of doing it just so I'm not in there, but I'm at like three months and I'm getting sick of it. Power through. Like even with like relationships, like at the point where you get to like over a year, like it starts to suck and you just got to push through.
00:49:38
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which is so like whack to me and because my mentality is kind of like cutting off my friend it's like if i have a relationship i have to push through and fuck this that's not even pushing through that's like the rest of your life but they say it gets better oh you just gotta have faith baby Well, that's interesting you bring that up because it said like a lot of podcasts don't make it to like 10 episodes.
00:50:08
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And this has made it to like, I don't even know. We're almost at like probably 20 now. Wow. And I feel like it is, the beginning is like the hardest.
00:50:19
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And there is still points where you kind of got to push through. i thought you stopped at one point. There was like definite one period where some didn't come out. This January, I didn't do a single one because I got one hate comment.
00:50:36
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But if listen to the one after that, now i really I was proud of that episode because I just spent the whole episode like making fun of that kid. I didn't listen to like the two after that.
00:50:47
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lesson yeah If you listen to it, listen to the first one after that. I loved that episode. all right. I will.
00:50:55
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And it kind of gets back to what we were talking about. It's like I had like probably 10, 15 people tell me like they love the podcast. And then I got one comment on like a TikTok video I put out that was like, they were like, they should limit the people putting out podcasts. And I took the whole like month off.
00:51:13
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i thought But then the next episode, I came at him hard. After taking a month to let it marinate. You should post it on TikTok and tag him.
00:51:26
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i do I don't even know if I did clips for that one, but that was a good fucking episode. It was a funny one. And then um it comes down to, like, I think, like, yeah, like, learning things, like, takes a lot of effort. That's why I think, like, you got to find what you actually, like, want to do.
00:51:45
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Like, guitar would be cool, but, like, this, I don't know. I like doing this podcast a lot more than I was, like, playing the guitar. You know what i mean? Mm-hmm.
00:51:57
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Because the man... I feel like i just recycle the same fucking garbage quotes at this point. But the man who likes to walk will walk farther than the man who's walking me somewhere. John Lennon.
00:52:09
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I do... I do enjoy it. Because, like, the songs I learn are the songs I like. Mm-hmm. And...
00:52:20
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I forget if I really like enjoyed it while i was playing. It kind of still felt like work to me. And if I get to that point, I'm just like, this is... I'm fucked. Yeah. Yeah, i think I'm taking a break from it right now because it was feeling worky, but... And maybe another thing is like,
00:52:40
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There was a period where I would like run through books when I was just doing like a chapter a day. But like when you try to bite off more than you can chew, that's when it becomes like you lose the consistency pretty quick.
00:52:53
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Yeah.
00:52:55
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it's At one point, I was doing it like for two hours every day, which crazy.
00:53:03
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yeah I feel like it's half hour or hour 45 minutes. um forty five minutes It was kind of crazy. I would like start and then I did not want to stop. Really? Yeah. That's a good sign.
00:53:16
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It's probably a sign that you were just biting off more than you could chew. I bet if you just did an hour a day for you'd keep cooking. Yeah.
00:53:26
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That is fun though. I was thinking like I... At one point I was like, i I need to learn an instrument just because I want to like be a guy who knows an instrument.
00:53:38
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And I was like wondering if it was like more for me or like other people. And I think it depends on like enjoyment. like i really i Right before, i was like, I just want to learn a instrument and I wanted to learn the piano. And I let other people talk me into learning the guitar.
00:53:53
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Which is, they're like, oh, it's more portable. you can like play in front of people. like i like the The piano is very like vulnerable and like raw and like it.
00:54:04
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I love the sound of it. Yeah. That's my brother wants to learn the piano and he has a guitar.
00:54:14
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He should get on the pod and we'll figure it out. You guys are in the same boat. You both own guitars and want to play the piano. ah That's pretty niche. Probably not a lot and people can say that.
00:54:27
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Because I, yeah, I'm looking at that thing. I don't think I'll ever like learn it. Like someone came over and was like playing it. She's like, this thing is way out of tune. I'm like, yeah, that thing's like just collecting dust over there.
00:54:40
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That's funny.
00:54:43
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And I think, especially with this podcast, I i feel like I, end and just in life in general, like you got to keep doing new stuff or it'll just get boring.
Material Values and Preferences
00:54:52
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Yeah. That's kind of what I was meaning. Like, just got to keep learning shit.
00:54:58
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Yeah. And like the half marathon is like another one of like the stereotypes. Like someone told, Oh, you're running a half marathon. Who gives a fuck? but i I need something to chase. And I, I would respect someone who does like a full marathon. Like when Dave said that we were like, Oh my God.
00:55:16
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Yeah. And it does seem like anyone can do it. It's just like a lot of hard work.
00:55:23
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Yeah. I don't know if I could do that because of the amount of work that goes into that.
00:55:30
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I think can. If I'm like chasing something, hopefully. We'll see. It's pretty cool though. You get to like run through the, I think the Denver football stadium during it.
00:55:43
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Really? Pretty cool. The Broncos. That is cool.
00:55:49
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Yeah, i needed something to chase.
00:55:54
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Yeah, I definitely like my one hobby right now is guitar. But I want to, be more well-rounded i guess like i need also in the winter you can't really do anything except ski yeah but that's not learn guitar yeah I think the way you get more well-rounded is like you got I think it's better like focus on one thing it can't just be like two hours to learn the guitar like another hour to learn how to knit one because then after a while you just know the guitar and then you can like move on to the next thing.
00:56:32
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And that's kind of how I was feeling with like weightlifting. I was like, I feel like I did that. I need something new. And if you just keep doing those over and over again, that's definitely why at the time you get to like... What's going on with me?
00:56:46
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By the time you get to like 30, then you'll definitely be like a well-rounded person. Yeah, that's true. I need a hobby that I can do while watching TV because that's my favorite thing to do.
00:56:58
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I know. My brother, and he's kind of
00:57:04
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Snow, I don't know, outlier, exception for this. But it's like, I like, I genuinely, I fucking love TV. Like, there's not a lot of things I like than just like watching a good movie.
00:57:16
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And he's like, I don't, I don't own a TV. I don't have a TV. wow And it's like the whole mentality of like the Lamborghini doesn't advertise on TV because the people who have Lamborghinis aren't sitting on the fucking couch.
00:57:30
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So it's like, i I'd rather watch TV than have a Lamborghini. It's like a tough would you rather. Would you rather have a Lambo or never?
00:57:40
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Actually, it's not even tough. I would rather not have a Lambo. Yeah. I don't like giving up TV for the rest of time. I don't know what I'd do.
00:57:53
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And I think that's a part of like growing up and accepting the monoton. And like, like my car does what I need it to do. Yeah.
00:58:04
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I'd be flashy. It might not be fast. It's reliable.
00:58:10
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And I'd like to have a nice car one day, but I'm team TV. um I don't even think I'd want a sports car, but I won't would want like a big Jeep type car or something like that.
00:58:24
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4Runner. That's what my brother's dream car, and it's a lot of people out here dream cars. Very versatile, it seems for like the outdoorsy kind of thing. I don't even know what I want.
00:58:35
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I'd kind of want a sports car.
00:58:39
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I think my dad's going to get one. No way. don't know if he actually would. he talks ah He's been talking about it a lot. That feels like... that I can't see him in a sports car, though.
00:58:52
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Which one? ah He doesn't, though. yes He wants to be that kind of guy. They say that's like the midlife crisis.
00:59:05
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He does got a good life, but if he buys a sports car, people are going like, oh I'm worried about him.
00:59:12
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Yeah, I'd be worried about him. What is... You okay? a guy I'd also like need, I would need to like test drive one before I bought one because I feel like if it gets boring, like one, like I do like to drive fast, but my car goes like plenty fast when I like want to do the whole weaving thing on the highway.
00:59:36
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Never had the problem that my car was not going fast enough. No, it's definitely more of like a look thing, which is kind of a red flag. Yeah. They do look cool, though.
00:59:47
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Yeah. and bit As long as, like, you can afford it, I think it's fine. Yeah.
00:59:56
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But also just, like, that or paying for, like, a vacation.
01:00:02
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That car would probably be, like, 10 vacation. Yeah. It really would. therere ah Yeah. I actually never would get a sports car, don't think.
01:00:16
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I'm not in the boat to judge anybody. I definitely have the desire to have like one nice car. Not even sport. I respect that more than like watches.
01:00:28
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You can have a nice watch, but a lot of people spend like millions of dollars on them. I also don't know like which ones are nice. I just see a watch. Some are like, that's fake. yeah That's the face I make every time. Nice watch.
01:00:48
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But yeah, there's a new way I think I want to wrap up and you're going to be the first one to do it. Are you ready? Yeah. I kept asking people like, what would you say to your younger self? Which is kind of, I don't know. The answers are all generic, but there and they're in there.
01:01:06
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But the name is Philosophony, but it also could be like, Phil. Oh, so funny.
Podcast Conclusion
01:01:12
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Yeah. but the The new way for the guest is going to be like, the guest has to say, Phil, oh, so funny in whatever way they want.
01:01:21
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But it has to be like convincing and very good. Let me get into character. Wait, who's are you Phil? Yeah, if you want me to be Phil, but you can do like a lot with it. You can be like, Phil, oh, so funny.
01:01:36
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All right. All right. Oh, this is a lot of pressure being the first one. But it's it'll be special. All right. It's Phil Oh So Funny. Yeah.
01:01:50
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Phil Oh So Funny. That was good. That was terrible. Yeah, not great. Do it another one. Get more creative. Okay.
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Thank you for coming on, Philly. Thank you for having me. I'll see you in, what, eight weeks?
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