Penn State's Wrestling Lineup and Recruitment Challenges
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
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Cokeley Brothers
So, well, we'll get started and then we'll pause, but hey, we'll, welcome back to the behind session.
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Reese
Pause, we were not pausing.
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Cokeley Brothers
I'll pause Reese. We have to pause.
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Reese
We'll just make it short. How about a short quick quick little 20 minute, 30 minute session?
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Cokeley Brothers
We'll keep it rolling while Ryan's gone. He'll come right back. Uh, all right. Uh, we were talking about right, right before we started recording, we were talking about Penn state lineup and how they're going to figure everything out. Uh, kind of works in tandem with the recent onslaught of commitments that we had in the last 72 hours. Uh, and if you haven't heard, if you've been under a rock and this is your first thing you've seen under ok from.
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Cokeley Brothers
coming out under, underneath a rock. Uh, Bo Bassett committed to Iowa. Jack's force committed to Oklahoma state and Dray Sean Ross committed to Oklahoma state. So that's your top three wrestlers out of the class of 2026. Uh, none of them going to Penn state, none of the top five going to Penn state.
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Ryne
None of the top five.
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Cokeley Brothers
Um, where are the other two going?
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Ryne
Virginia Tech in Illinois.
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Cokeley Brothers
Virginia tech and Illinois. Right. Uh, but. We what we were just.
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Ryne
This could change. That could change though.
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Ryne
Like the top five could change is what I mean.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah.
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Reese
Who do you think would change?
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Ryne
Or the, or the commitments could change.
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Cokeley Brothers
I mean, this is.
Potential Changes in Wrestling Weight Classes
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Ryne
Stewart could drop out of the top five at any time.
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Reese
Oh, you're so okay. I thought you were talking about commitments.
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Cokeley Brothers
I mean, that that could change or who is in the top five could change.
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Ryne
I mean, those could change. Yeah.
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Cokeley Brothers
But so some some people are talking about. Oh, Penn State recruitment falling off, blah, blah, blah, not keeping up, I think. It would it wouldn't surprise me if kale Sanderson's kind of pumping the brakes on the commitment a little bit or on the the recruitment trail a little bit because it's got a log jam of wrestlers, especially at the upper weights.
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Cokeley Brothers
So we know I mean next.
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Ryne
Back at the lower weights too.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's two two separate log jams, really. So because so deck this year they're going to lose Kurt McHenry, Bo Bartlett,
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Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Carter Strachey, Greg Kirkley. Those are like the significant names that they're losing. Uh, I don't know. I mean, Kurt and whatever. So next year, 165
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Cokeley Brothers
is going to be Mitchell Mezenbrink, but you have Joe Seeley right behind him, who is ah in red shirt right now. Uh, Levi Haynes is still going to be around and you have Zach Ryder, the Mira Sola brothers, Josh Barr, uh, Lucas Cochran is still around.
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Cokeley Brothers
Just, it doesn't all fit. And so you either got to put somebody on the bench. Somebody's got to get hurt.
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Ryne
Is this why Penn State fans were wanting to add more weight classes?
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Ryne
I'm serious. This was being talked about. And a lot of it was from Penn State people. They were wanting to add an 11th weight class up top.
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Cokeley Brothers
That's yeah.
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Ryne
it's like And now that I'm thinking about it, I was like, no, it makes sense.
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Cokeley Brothers
Maybe I think also that's just been a general thing where people people people are like, well, I don't understand why you go from one ninety seven to two eighty five. You have these these small incremental jumps in weight and then all of a sudden you jumped up to two eighty five and it's like, yeah, that's just that's the weight distribution or science or something like that. But I mean, I think adding it took so long for one ninety
Iowa's Media Presence in Wrestling
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Cokeley Brothers
seven to get interesting. I think adding ah like a two twenty or a two fifteen or something like that would just dull.
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Cokeley Brothers
All of the quality up there.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So I think that's a bad idea. I mean, maybe Penn State said that and they're like, let's, let's do that so that we can have more titles, but 10 weight, 10 weights is good.
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Ryne
I don't think anything, I don't think anybody affiliated with Penn State said that. I just think it was Penn State fans. I just, I did see it coming from Penn State fans.
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Cokeley Brothers
Right. Yeah. yeah Sure. Could've been, but so yeah, I mean, one of the group with Zach writer.
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Cokeley Brothers
Levi Haynes, Josh Barr, Connor Mirasola, Lucas Cochran, one of those, or maybe multiple of those guys are gonna be on the bench next year, or Levi Haynes can redshirt, but that's you're just a la you're delaying things at that point.
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Cokeley Brothers
You're gonna run into this problem no matter what, so.
Impact of NIL Deals on Wrestling Recruitment
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what it's gonna look like. And and then ah PJ Duke is, Coming up the next year, right after that. And I mean, maybe he's like, I want to start right away. I'm ready. I want to go out there.
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Cokeley Brothers
I want to go wrestle. I guess I don't know. So they're going to have problems.
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Ryne
ah And he'll probably, I mean, he's going to be 57 65. Like, Oh my goodness, dude.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And, uh, Shane Van Ness is listed as a junior. He's got three more years. Well, two more after this year.
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Cokeley Brothers
So he's going to be around.
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Ryne
This year and two more. Yeah. But you know, there are people who don't, I was agreeing with you, but there are people who don't, you know, uh, yeah, go after their extra medical stuff.
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Cokeley Brothers
don't always use that.
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Ryne
Shame. I could see Shane, Vanessa doing it for sure, but I'm just saying there are people who don't
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
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Reese
You guys notice how Sparks says his last name?
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Reese
Vaness. Shane Vaness.
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Cokeley Brothers
Shane Vanessa, like he's saying Shane finesse.
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Reese
It's so annoying. Yeah, it's very annoying.
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Ryne
He just, he misses, he misses one of the ends is what you're saying.
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Reese
And like, you know, Tim, yeah, like Tim or Jim or whoever, whoever is commentating with him, like we'll say Vaness, but Shane is just like, Vaness!
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Cokeley Brothers
Just put it all together.
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Reese
Vaness gets to finish. I don't know, it just drives me crazy.
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Ryne
but I did. And I, I like, whoa. Apollo is angry.
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Ryne
but Anyway. All right. I like, I like Shane Sparks, but I don't listen to commentary when I watch duels. It so and doesn't matter for anyone.
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Ryne
I just don't turn. I mute it.
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Cokeley Brothers
Uh, I I listened to it. I mean, I I don't mind Shane. Uh, sometimes, uh, some of the other big 10 commentary can can be tough.
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Cokeley Brothers
If it's it like some of the students from the university, it's bad. There were a couple of years at Indiana where it was unbearable. Abs, it was terrible.
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Ryne
Yeah. Are you talking about the year you were doing it?
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Cokeley Brothers
Um. Yeah, I don't know how anybody could listen to a moment of it. Me, especially. I did. I did. I. made such a dumb mistake. The very first duel that I had to do commentary for because it was, uh, Indiana, Iowa. And this is the year where nobody knows who's going to be wrestling at one 84, whether it was Wilkie or a facade, or I think there was a third option. And I see a guy walk. I'm looking, I'm at the top of the arena. I'm looking all the way down. I see a guy with a shoulder tattoo. I'm like, it's cash Wilkie. It was a facade.
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Cokeley Brothers
So I mixed up and then I look on the Iowa forms. It's like, apparently anybody with a shoulder tattoos cash will get my God, they heard that one. ah Yeah.
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Reese
Egg. Egg all over your face.
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Cokeley Brothers
ah All over my face.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So. ah But yeah, the commentary is not easy.
US Wrestling Performances in International Competitions
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Cokeley Brothers
some good, there's some bad.
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Ryne
Moving on. What do you guys think about the commitments from this week?
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Cokeley Brothers
I'm excited about it. the when you When you really ah zoom out and think about it, the boat basset to Iowa commitment makes a lot of sense. um
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Ryne
Which is the biggest difference maker?
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. On a lot of different parallels. I think that draws in more interest from other recruits. I think the the ah Bash and Willie were talking about how he's such a he's such an antithesis to the way Iowa kind of does their social media presentation because you you do kind of when you look at it, you see some teams and they kind of they kind of allow for some freedom with their athletes in terms of what they do on like Instagram or whatever.
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Cokeley Brothers
The Iowa guys kind of feel like robots kind of feels like they're they're these tools for the for the SID.
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Reese
Really dude, I don't I don't feel like they're any more
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Ryne
Spencer Spencer Lee did
Future Prospects for US Men's Freestyle Wrestling
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Reese
concealing like they're they don't like any more like well Hidden then like Penn State guys like I think Penn State guys are also just as if not more reserved Iowa doesn't do those things
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Cokeley Brothers
They, I mean, the Penn State guys, they do the things where it's like, like the whatever person couple will come up and be like, ask them whatever question.
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Cokeley Brothers
Like what's your, what's your favorite recipe to make or something? Or who's the best cook on the team? I mean, I don't see any of them. I don't know. Maybe I'm missing them.
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Reese
I'm sure they would do them if Big Ten, you know, posted or like wanted to post one.
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Ryne
But like and and of individuals from each program will do stuff.
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Reese
Dude, I listened to that too.
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Ryne
like Spencer Lee would post stuff all the time of him working out.
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Cokeley Brothers
So when it was Spencer and and Max Mirren and Michael Kemmerer, I feel like it was a very different situation.
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Cokeley Brothers
And and and I think it was the the the vibe that you got from what you would see on social media where it looked like they were having a lot of fun.
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Reese
Well maybe you just don't have the stars and you don't see it as much now.
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Cokeley Brothers
I mean, that could be that could be the case. so but ah I think you get a lot of transparency from a guy like Bo Bassett and you don't always get a lot of transparency from, um, a school like I, from like Iowa, which that's the case with a lot of schools.
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Cokeley Brothers
So it's not, it's not specifically just Iowa who's holding everything to the chest. Honestly, they're not one of the worst examples. Um, they do some things and it's kind of interesting and there's, there's some question marks around them, but rent's making a face.
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Cokeley Brothers
What do you, what are you thinking?
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Reese
Dude, listening to that that podcast with Bash and Willy was so infuriating, like um for so many different reasons.
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Ryne
No, I was itching. Sorry.
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Reese
just But that particular thing where they were like, brands is bad at PR. Like Bash outright said brands is bad at PR. And how they're just, you know, they don't they don't sell their product, blah, blah, blah.
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Reese
Like, dude, it just drove me crazy.
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Cokeley Brothers
It might be from a perspective of like a potential.
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Ryne
how How is he? How is he bad at PR?
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Reese
yeah Yeah, where does that come from?
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Cokeley Brothers
I don't think you i don't think he's, I don't think he's bad. ah Maybe Bash is thinking he can do a
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Cokeley Brothers
lot more.
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Ryne
get some You get some great one-liners from Tom Brands.
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Cokeley Brothers
I really like when when Tom Branson sat down and people asking questions.
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Cokeley Brothers
I like listening to Tom Branson. Talk about his athletes, talk about his program. um But it you have Iowa. Maybe I really, the only idea that I have in my head is that it could be the, ah the perspective of what potential is there for the program in terms of PR.
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Reese
I think he just outright was like, he's bad at PR.
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Ryne
I don't think he's, I don't, he's, he's not worse.
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Reese
I don't think there was any.
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Ryne
He's no better or worse than Kale Sanderson, in my opinion.
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Ryne
I mean, Kale is, Kale is super dry and I don't mind it.
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Cokeley Brothers
And it's, it's, a it's, I.
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Reese
He's probably better.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it's just a it's a it's so it's a it's a different flavor, but they're both the exact like, I agree that they're kind of on the same level in terms of the way they address the media.
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Ryne
Like that's just how he is.
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Ryne
Bash is a hater too, and he's a Penn state.
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Cokeley Brothers
Is it Penn State home or Iowa hater?
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Reese
Dude, the whole podcast was just a love fest.
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Cokeley Brothers
And that's that's I don't subscribe to that.
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Ryne
I don't, I can't even call him a, I can't even call him a Homer because he didn't even get, he, he's not even an alumni or anything. He just, he's just a glazer.
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Cokeley Brothers
So well, because
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Reese
Listening to Willie, too, is just, I don't know, dude. It's like, dude, listening to those two talk, it's like neither one of them are responding to each other. They're just getting their, yeah, they're just monologuing.
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Cokeley Brothers
They're both going on monologues.
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Reese
And Willie, dude, his monologues are so bad, like...
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Ryne
really Willie, Willie.
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Ryne
Willie needs to go back to doing shows with fellers.
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Cokeley Brothers
It feels like it does sometimes it does sometimes feel like Willie is like he's got this thought in his head and it's just it's clogged.
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Cokeley Brothers
It can't get out for some reason, which is it does kind of suck to hear because I I.
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Ryne
He's got a lot of other ideas going in there too.
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Reese
He's got... he's got
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Cokeley Brothers
I got a.
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Reese
Nobody to keep him honest, that's my problem. He used to have, like like, fellers would be a perfect person to keep him, like, like honest toes and honest, where Bass just doesn't try to challenge him really or anything.
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Ryne
I can't listen to Bash, period.
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Reese
Yeah, I get it, for sure. I've been listening to them more frequently for some reason.
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Cokeley Brothers
I, ah yeah, I have, I've been listening to them more frequently.
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Cokeley Brothers
I, I listened to, uh, because I'm trying to just absorb more wrestling media to, to understand the scope more, the, the, the landscape. And I listened to a locked on Nittany lions, dude.
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Cokeley Brothers
If you want to hear some, so it's, there it's Penn state, it's Penn state media. So it totally makes sense.
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Cokeley Brothers
But man, this, so I can't remember. There was one guy, he was younger and I don't remember his name, but he was not quite fully aware of the, of the wrestling landscape.
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Cokeley Brothers
And then he was, I think the guy he was with was, I think his name was Jeff Byers. Or I'm wrong on that, but that might be right.
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Cokeley Brothers
Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff Byers, he knows his shit. He was great. ah But he like they were talking about.
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Ryne
You said of you said a video you said a video Jeff buyers or not of Jeff buyer but him Commentating the Sriracha Angelo match the other day.
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Cokeley Brothers
Um. But the younger guy was talking to him about it.
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Cokeley Brothers
He was like, yeah, Penn State doesn't really utilize the transfer portal or worry too much about the NIL landscape. I was like, and Byers corrected about Bernie Truax and Greg Kirkflate.
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Cokeley Brothers
I'm like, and Mitchell Mezenbrink. And even Curt McHenry. You guys get transfers. I promise you. And Aaron Agao, you have people that come in from the transfer portal.
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Ryne
And you're using an I.L.
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Ryne
That's I mean an I.L.
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Ryne
is pulled Marcus Blaze away from Ohio State.
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Cokeley Brothers
What, what, uh, now, so there was a quote, there is a, there's a quote from, yes, he said that.
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Reese
Did you guys hear what kale said?
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Cokeley Brothers
What was it? Say it. What was exactly Reese?
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Reese
He's oh, I don't know exactly what it was but like paraphrasing it was like ah We're not gonna be able to like we're not gonna be able to get these guys based on in IL like our in IL is not going to be like a difference maker with some of these guys
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Cokeley Brothers
NIL won't define Penn State's wrestling recruiting strategy. Kale Sanderson says that's what it was.
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Ryne
I mean, but with some of their, with some of their guys, I mean, at least, at least with, with some of them, like Marcus Blaze, like Marcus Blaze, I heard Marcus Blaze was all but set on going to Ohio state, all but set.
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Cokeley Brothers
Or something, yeah.
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Reese
Obviously, they're paying a lot for some of the guys.
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Ryne
And then Penn state came in with a, with, with some money, a money deal that Ohio state couldn't match. And so he, he flipped kind of in a way.
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Reese
He did also say that they get their guys do get taken care of, so yeah.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. ah Everybody's, everybody's going to get paid and there's going to be financial competition and I, I, I, any, any reasonable father is going to say, Hey, chase your dreams, but also there, you're not going to have a whole lot of opportunities if you're really good at this to, you know, receive this kind of payment for it.
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Ryne
Yeah. Make the money. Yeah.
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Cokeley Brothers
So like, dude, I mean, yeah, it's,
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Ryne
Five million over four years. Oh my goodness.
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Cokeley Brothers
It's it's incomparable to even what you would get on the senior level, even if you're the top, the the cream of the crop song.
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Ryne
I also, I also heard, so David Taylor was in town in the dirty Dodge, trying to pick up Dreshawn Ross succeeded.
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Ryne
And what I had heard rumors, obviously speculation, this is all just hearsay, but I had heard that, you know, Dreshawn was told you commit right now and we can post it online.
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Ryne
There'll be 12 grand in your bank account tomorrow morning. And we'll fly you down this weekend, take you to a car dealership, pick you out a new car. That's what I heard.
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Cokeley Brothers
Is that, is that within the the legal bounds of an aisle?
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Ryne
what What are the legal bounds of NIO?
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Cokeley Brothers
I, um I could, I didn't think that you could, uh, do any sort of compensation of any sort until they are a student of the, of the university.
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Cokeley Brothers
I guess maybe not. I don't know. And that also might not even be a real rumor.
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Ryne
I don't know. these and And again, again, again, this is strictly from what I hear from other people here in town, right?
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So it could be drawn a drummed up a little bit, but also Ryan, you, you missed a major opportunity.
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Cokeley Brothers
You had David Taylor in town and you couldn't get him on the podcast.
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Ryne
I know. I messed up. I didn't even know he was in town until he was gone.
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Reese
What the hell dude?
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Ryne
I didn't even know he was in town until he was gone.
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Ryne
You know what? He didn't even he didn't even bother to come check out one of the best junior college programs in the country. So you know what, David? You missed out.
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Cokeley Brothers
No, that's true. And you know what? If David Taylor is down in Mobile, Alabama, I'm finding him. I'll know where he is.
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Ryne
I hope you know about it before he but you know because I found out after he was already gone.
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Cokeley Brothers
I'll figure it out.
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Ryne
I didn't know he was in town.
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Cokeley Brothers
Right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure I do fly under the radar for those types of things.
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Ryne
Got to. You're David Taylor.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. But ah so back to the, the general topic, forest and Dreshawn are big, big grabs force is going to be at like, I think, barring odd off the mat circumstances, he's going to be able at the, you know, his floor is four time all American and he could be a four time champ.
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Cokeley Brothers
Um, I think you put Dray Sean Ross in that same category because heavyweight does not, it will not continue to have the level of quality that it has right now. Uh, and I, I know, uh, you know, there's, there's skepticism.
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Ryne
ah why Why, why do you, what makes you say that though, about heavyweight? Cause I think there are a lot of good young heavyweights like Jude Correa coming up, Mako, Mira solas.
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Cokeley Brothers
So yeah. yeah
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Ryne
Like, I think there are a lot.
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Ryne
So Haken, uh, co, Kobe Merrill.
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Cokeley Brothers
I could be wrong.
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Cokeley Brothers
I'm starting to feel a little bit wrong.
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Cokeley Brothers
I don't know if Kobe will be or he's bigger, isn't he?
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Ryne
He just beats a hakean.
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Reese
Sahakian Well, wait is Rana Makar gonna go is he gonna go 97 or a heavyweight, yeah You look big
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Cokeley Brothers
OK, yeah, he's so he's bigger. I thought he was lighter. Justin. In 97 would be 97.
00:18:07
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Um. All right. So, I mean, I could be wrong. Uh, and I know that there's skepticism around like the health side of things. I'm, I'm guessing there's going to be plenty of resources thrown at, at Drishan to maintain things like health and gaining weight and getting strong.
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Cokeley Brothers
I mean, we've, we've heard.
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Ryne
i'm one I'm wondering if he's going to move down to s Stillwater next year.
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Cokeley Brothers
Good. Definitely good. Especially if he's, if he said I'm done with, with football and I'm focusing full time on wrestling, like he probably should. Yes. Do that.
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Ryne
That would suck for the dirty.
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Cokeley Brothers
Get healthy.
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Ryne
That would suck for us.
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Cokeley Brothers
No. Well, what are you going to do? Uh, but yeah, and Bo, Bo Bassett will do a lot of good things that Iowa and I think Dreshawn and Jax will do a lot of good things at Oklahoma State.
00:18:51
Ryne
What am I going to do?
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Cokeley Brothers
I already had an idea in my mind where if Bo Bassett was committed to Oklahoma State, that I was like, that that's the, if you envision David Taylor's initial recruiting process as a crown, that's the the gigantic jewel that goes in the middle of the crown.
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Cokeley Brothers
And, and it's something that's like, okay, this Oklahoma state momentum is on the verge or is, is, uh, careening towards, you know, the number one spot.
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Ryne
I just feel like he didn't push as hard for Beau because of Sergio. That's why that's how I feel.
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Cokeley Brothers
but I mean, that, that could definitely be the case for sure.
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Reese
think he Do you think he didn't push his heart or is there is there evidence that he didn't push his heart?
00:19:40
Ryne
No, no, no, no. This is speculation on my part.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Speaking of speculation, I am a little interested in the fact that the the conversation was that Bo would be, uh, taking this process, taking more time on this process and then all of a sudden things need to be done now.
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Cokeley Brothers
Uh, so I'm wondering if it was like, Hey, we've got this deal for you, but we need to lock it down now. Uh, if there was something like that going on.
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Ryne
Well, I mean, the, the rumors, rumors I heard is that he was going to kind of play it out until about, you know, April ish after NCAA's.
00:20:06
Reese
I thought maybe word was getting out or that was my initial but I feel like that's probably not not the case Five million you think that's a real you think that's a real possibility that it's five million dollars.
00:20:21
Ryne
And, uh, but yeah, you know, Iowa came in, Hey man, $5 million, dollars but like, there's a timetable.
00:20:33
Ryne
Dude, it's the it's the number that I've seen thrown around by so many people.
00:20:38
Reese
You hear like Carson Beck he's getting paid like four million to play at a Miami Well,
00:20:44
Cokeley Brothers
No Carson back sucks.
00:20:45
Ryne
Yeah, but that's that's that's one year. This is five is five five millly five million over four years.
00:20:49
Reese
that's true this is all every year or Really okay, well that makes more sense That's just crazy dude because like, you know, you got basketball and football guys and they're like <unk> Making five million dollars.
00:20:57
Cokeley Brothers
No, yeah.
00:21:06
Reese
That's like That's on the upper end of like any athlete, I feel like.
00:21:10
Ryne
It's just a little different hey because of the professional aspect.
00:21:11
Cokeley Brothers
it's It's right. Since they're going to be around for two, three years tops because they're going to be sliding right into the NBA or NFL.
00:21:20
Ryne
Think about, think about a guy like a KU basketball player, Mr. Dick Grady.
00:21:26
Reese
Grady Dick, he yeah he only made like half a million as a freshman.
00:21:31
Ryne
But he, he made, I heard he made way more than that because of the merchandise with his name on it.
00:21:36
Reese
Well, sure, but i mean just I mean, that's what I'm saying.
00:21:37
Cokeley Brothers
Sorry, a half a million guaranteed and then...
00:21:40
Ryne
He was a, he was a one year. He was a one and done guy though, is the, is the other thing.
00:21:44
Reese
i I know. But like that's KU basketball.
00:21:48
Reese
I don't know. Five million is just...
00:21:51
Reese
I don't know. Makes me kind of sad, but it's good. Good for good for these guys, but I'm just like, man.
00:21:56
Cokeley Brothers
it's It's good to see this. this
00:21:58
Ryne
You know what it makes me think?
00:22:00
Reese
There's no purity anymore.
00:22:00
Ryne
It makes me think I was born born too soon. Damn it.
00:22:04
Reese
Yeah, dude, for sure. dude Yeah, did you see somebody was tweeting about oh it was Perler Nick Perler tweeted about how a parent had called him asking him how she could get her son into a d1 school he just started wrestling as a sophomore, but he can't wrestle in the summer because he's got like track and Football and he's like I get these kind of questions like 50 times a year from 50 different parents and like he's like they don't they don't comprehend and I made me think like
00:22:37
Reese
Maybe this is because of NIL, that this is starting to happen.
00:22:42
Cokeley Brothers
I could bear
00:22:43
Ryne
Well, here's Moffat just, I mean, Moffat told a bunch of guys just the other day, it's like, man, why wouldn't you try to put yourself in a position to make this kind of money now? It's like, whether you're in junior college or in high school or or whatever, but like, why wouldn't you do everything in your power to put yourself in a position to make even a quarter million dollars for a couple of years.
00:22:43
Reese
Maybe thinking people are thinking that way.
00:23:08
Ryne
You know what I mean? like ah Pay off your, but pay for a house or a car or pay off your loans or whatever it might be.
00:23:16
Ryne
like and Life changing money as a young adult.
00:23:22
Ryne
Why wouldn't you put yourself in that position?
00:23:22
Cokeley Brothers
ah There's, there's, there's no comparable opportunity like this.
00:23:27
Cokeley Brothers
And and people were throwing comments out there about like, I can't believe the athletes, it's hard to believe the athletes are getting paid this, this type of money when the coaches aren't getting paid nearly as much. And it's like, you you can compare that to the way professional sports work and that, that tracks, that makes sense.
00:23:42
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, you see that in the NFL and BA, um, and that's, this is,
00:23:44
Reese
Oh really, coaches don't make nearly as much?
00:23:47
Cokeley Brothers
This is the right like this is this is basic dude.
00:23:50
Cokeley Brothers
I mean ah like Andy Reid.
00:23:52
Ryne
You think Andy Reid makes as much money as Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey?
00:23:56
Reese
No, but is it close to like other athletes? What does he, get what does he make?
00:24:02
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe but also but then but then you then you look at.
00:24:02
Ryne
Maybe, maybe some, yeah, maybe other athletes, but not your superstars.
00:24:06
Cokeley Brothers
Like like Tom brands is making more than writer or block.
00:24:09
Ryne
Oh yeah, writer block, writer block probably isn't making very much right now, so.
00:24:10
Cokeley Brothers
So so. ah
00:24:15
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So it's good to see, I do kind of wish like if this money was in the sport this whole time, why couldn't we be putting it towards other things? But, but this is there.
00:24:26
Ryne
They were, they were, you know, where they were going towards um RTC athletes.
00:24:32
Cokeley Brothers
So it's different now because this is, this is our, this is the, so that that's the point that I was getting to college wrestling is the professional.
00:24:39
Cokeley Brothers
This is our league.
00:24:41
Cokeley Brothers
This is our, this is our NBA or NFL.
00:24:43
Ryne
That's why, I mean, didn't you know someone did, I don't know the GM tweet by Willie the other day.
00:24:43
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, it's,
00:24:50
Ryne
Did you guys see this?
00:24:51
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think so.
00:24:52
Ryne
Willie's like, Willie's like, we're basically like, I mean, we're basically to the point now where it's like NC we're one step away from NCAA is approving, you know, trades or whatever. And like, and then programs need to start hiring a GM. And Willie was like, I would like to throw my hat into the ring. If that's, if this is the direction we're going, I would do that. I'm with him.
00:25:18
Cokeley Brothers
yeah Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:21
Cokeley Brothers
I guess, I guess, I guess the NCAA is, is a, is a, it's a business and so they want to make money.
00:25:21
Reese
I would love a job like that.
00:25:29
Cokeley Brothers
And so this is their direction that they're heading to make money. Then go for it. It's just weird. It's such it's such a weird thing because you're, you only have such a, you have a finite amount of time and you're dealing with 18 to 24 year olds and they're getting a college degree at the same time.
00:25:43
Cokeley Brothers
It's so, it's so strange, you know?
00:25:49
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know, but let's, let's, uh, do you guys have any other additional thoughts with this whole recruiting stuff and college?
00:26:00
Cokeley Brothers
No. All right. Let's, uh, transition to what is really the, uh, professional league of wrestling, which is a senior level, you know? Right.
00:26:11
Reese
Pastor, do you have to go, Ryan?
00:26:13
Ryne
Uh, a couple of minutes. I got a few minutes. I can talk about Lee and RBI, and then I can leave.
00:26:17
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Okay.
00:26:20
Cokeley Brothers
OK, so, yeah, Spencer Lee and Roman Robert Young wrestled to the semifinals of the Zikreb ranking series event. Spencer Lee won 62. How do we feel about it? How much did you guys how much were you guys actually able to watch it?
00:26:31
Reese
I haven't watched any of it.
00:26:32
Ryne
That was the only match.
00:26:33
Cokeley Brothers
Six three, six three.
00:26:34
Ryne
That was the only match I watched.
00:26:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So.
00:26:39
Ryne
Sammy, you've been all over it though, and I appreciate you for that.
00:26:40
Cokeley Brothers
Where is my. Yes. ah Yeah, and so I. I did, I did a little number tracking for the whole event for all the us wrestlers. Cause what I really wanted to see, and this came after, um, James green and Alec can tell you wrestle each other around one. And then James green had to injury default because of either concussion or the, the swell, the swelling on his face. Uh, and so.
00:27:07
Cokeley Brothers
because of that, they basically wrestled each other and then went home. They dr they they flew all the way to Croatia, wrestled each other ah for the for the seven trillionth time and then went home, which kind of sucked. So I tracked like, okay, how many matches did we wrestle?
00:27:21
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, and how much, how many were actually against foreign competition. So we went with team USA so far with all the men's freestyle matches and one, uh, well, two weights for women's freestyle.
00:27:32
Cokeley Brothers
We wrestled 57 matches and 45 of them have been against foreign competition.
00:27:39
Cokeley Brothers
Um, so it's it's, it's really not a terrible number. It got really bad today because.
00:27:46
Cokeley Brothers
ah Mason Paris beat, I think he beat Trent Hilger and Hayden Zilmer, and then they had to wrestle each other for third place.
00:27:55
Cokeley Brothers
And then Rocco Welsh and Evan Wick wrestled each other. um And I think that was it. But heavyweight was was a mess. Uh, so the metal summary is Spencer Lee's, the heat Valencia and Kyle Snyder all took gold took first place. Second place went to Joey McKenna at 65 kilos. David Carr at 74 Mason, Paris at 125 kilos. And then we had a lot of third places, nation Garrett, Nate, Nate Jackson, Trent, Hyde Lee, Rocco Welsh, Mike Machiavello, Jay, I yellow, Haynes Zilmer and Ariana Villescaz is our first women's freestyle medalist.
00:28:30
Ryne
Shout out nay Sean Garrett, still just like putting up points like a mad man, giving, giving him up and, you know, and putting him up too.
00:28:34
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, lighten up the scoreboard.
00:28:40
Ryne
Like, and I love it. I appreciate him for it.
00:28:44
Cokeley Brothers
Absolutely crazy.
00:28:47
Cokeley Brothers
And Iranian. It was, give me a moment so I can pull it up.
00:28:54
Ryne
Let's talk about the biggest.
00:28:55
Reese
Gomez, he took bronze, right? Gomez?
00:28:57
Ryne
Yeah, but he's not American.
00:28:57
Cokeley Brothers
Gomez took bronze.
00:29:00
Ryne
I mean, he is American, but he's he's not Team USA.
00:29:03
Cokeley Brothers
He's a traitor.
00:29:04
Ryne
Excuse me, Gomez, excuse me.
00:29:04
Cokeley Brothers
He's a traitor.
00:29:07
Cokeley Brothers
Mohammed Reza, Ebrahim Zadesh Savad-Kuhi.
00:29:17
Cokeley Brothers
That could be better. He beat him 8-6.
00:29:19
Cokeley Brothers
I think it's a match the mechanic could have won, but he started to fade. I think. Or I could be wrong about that. So.
00:29:26
Ryne
You're not even talking about the biggest subset of the tournament, though.
00:29:30
Cokeley Brothers
Biggest upset of the tournament.
00:29:32
Ryne
As far as Americans over good foreigners goes.
00:29:36
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, Jared J. Qs be Ismael Musikayev.
00:29:40
Cokeley Brothers
This is this was not the Ismael Musikayev that won a world title two years ago, though.
00:29:45
Reese
So Jake uses at 70 he was down at 70 I Don't know he was that he was just wrestling 74 a I know He was yeah, okay okay Sure sure sure
00:29:49
Ryne
Down. I mean, I thought that's what he's always at. Did he go up for a little while?
00:29:52
Cokeley Brothers
Seventy four. yeah wresled He wrestled. He wrestled 74 last year.
00:29:54
Ryne
Oh, he had to, right?
00:29:56
Cokeley Brothers
But then and then he dropped he dropped a 70 for non-Olympic Worlds last summer and then didn't do so so hot.
00:30:03
Ryne
He's the same as James Green. He's a 70 kilo guy.
00:30:05
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah.
00:30:08
Ryne
I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to attack you. I was just saying. I was just saying.
00:30:14
Cokeley Brothers
ah But yeah, so he beat he beat Musicaev three to two. And then he lost his next match to an Iranian who took a fifth. So. Who lost to Austin Gomez 93. Austin Gomez lost to. Where did he lose?
00:30:35
Cokeley Brothers
Austin Klee Gomez kind of on hepatitis.
00:30:38
Ryne
I'll be back, fellas.
00:30:38
Cokeley Brothers
He'll be back. Yep.
00:30:43
Cokeley Brothers
He turned off his camera race.
00:30:46
Cokeley Brothers
ah He'll be right back. He's looking good. I do. I think.
00:30:56
Cokeley Brothers
So somebody asked on Twitter, somebody asked on Twitter, is he Valencia's looking great? Who who can really challenge him at 86 kilos this year? And I think the only answer that I could realistically come up with was Carter Storachi.
00:31:12
Reese
ah for from America.
00:31:14
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It like who who who's going to challenge him for the spot or is or is he Valencia going to get on the team this year, basically?
00:31:23
Reese
Yeah, I can't think of anybody.
00:31:27
Cokeley Brothers
I think if Derringer was still around, that'd be an option, a possibility. It's, I'm confused. So maybe, maybe what I read was wrong or it's changed or I misread it, but so the flow card has Valencia and Brooks wrestling. And I think it's 86 kilos if I read correctly or if what I read is even correct.
00:31:47
Reese
Think that's right. That's what I heard Yeah, and he's claimed he was never gonna go 86 again is that tournament or cart?
00:31:50
Cokeley Brothers
But it's also weird because Brooks didn't wrestle. He was signed up to wrestle at the Zagreb at 92 kilos and then didn't wrestle. So.
00:32:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, so I don't I guess maybe I don't know. So. ah That's that's weird to me. um I think what Bash said is that he didn't wrestle for. And at the end of this month, I think the 23rd, I think. So 20 22nd, maybe.
00:32:21
Cokeley Brothers
Um, but yeah, so this, this is something that started to, uh, or this conversation, this idea started to put me on the trail of who do I think is going to make the senior world team for men's freestyle for team USA this year. And I have a list, uh, and I don't feel super confident about some of these picks for some reasons. Um,
00:32:52
Cokeley Brothers
The biggest reasons being, I don't know if these guys are actually going to wrestle with some of them. Um, but I'm going to run through it. So starting at 57, I have Spencer Lee, 61 Vito, 65, Jesse Mendez, 70, Yanni Diakamahales, 74, Kyle Dake, 79, Jordan Burroughs, 86, Zahid Valencia, 92, Aaron Brooks, 97, Kyle Snyder, 125, Gable Stevenson.
00:33:19
Reese
What were the first five?
00:33:21
Cokeley Brothers
Spencer Lee, Vito Arruja, Jesse Mendez, Yanni Diak-Majales, Kyle Dake.
00:33:27
Reese
So you think Daco would be a F-74?
00:33:28
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. I don't know that. So I'm not, im a one, I'm not even sure he's going to wrestle. Two, ah he talked about how 74 is a real cut.
00:33:35
Cokeley Brothers
So maybe he's going to wrestle 79. So then 74 David Carr, maybe. Right.
00:33:44
Cokeley Brothers
If he drops down to it, I mean, I don't know.
00:33:46
Reese
You would drop down it, would you think? You can't go 86 or 79.
00:33:49
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Especially if he's not healthy. 70s here wrestle 79 He's wrestling 170 he's wrestling 174 right now What 74 74 kilos is is 162.8.
00:33:53
Reese
Yeah, he wouldn't wrestle so I don't know I would I can't yeah, he's just not that big to me. I know Maybe you're right If he has Olympic aspirations he's got to go 74 I
00:34:05
Cokeley Brothers
So I I don't know and I Yeah, but he I mean especially not being a hundred percent healthy he might not even wrestle this summer so If
00:34:16
Reese
right yeah i don't know that mess and break car yeah it freestyle would be a very interesting very interesting
00:34:21
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, mesenbrinker car at 74. So if it's not dake, I'll put I'll put down. That's a really good match. Mesenbrinker car. Yeah.
00:34:38
Cokeley Brothers
That would be a great match. ah Oh, side note, because you said in freestyle. ah So Rocco Welsh lost to the Frenchman Kijev. The old one, right?
00:34:51
Cokeley Brothers
I got thrown in the headlock in 2015. OK. Yeah. ah And he was I could tell it was a very frustrating match for Rockwell, because the way that people in the US stall in a handfight versus the way that people in the rest of the world stall whenever they have a lead is so different.
00:35:15
Cokeley Brothers
because Rocco Wells was pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing the pace and in terms of the hand fight, trying to create positions, trying to create angles, trying to, to, you know, beat his opponent. Uh, and then Kijev really just took one opportunity to, uh, get to a single leg, take him down and then gut him to go up four. Oh, and then he just coasted off that lead. Uh, but it was like five minutes and 45 seconds of Rocco Welsh, you know, running them all over the mat and then.
00:35:43
Cokeley Brothers
His dad calling you.
00:35:46
Cokeley Brothers
just called He just called me.
00:35:46
Reese
Yeah, I've ever heard from but it was like a week Yeah
00:35:53
Cokeley Brothers
He's ah somewhere in the world. He's all over the world this month. But but yeah, it's it's so interesting to see the way Foreigners kind of reserve themselves positionally and they won't back out of a position, but they will maintain this. This like, I guess, level of comfort or just disposition from engagement that yeah a ref can't punish them because of the rules, but it's hard for as a wrestler to really go anywhere with it. So it's it's very frustrating. and And I know it's frustrating for a guy like Rocco Welsh to try and
00:36:36
Cokeley Brothers
push the pace and and score and wrestle through positions because he's, I don't think he's too comfortable or too familiar with wrestling foreigners. So it was, uh, it was ah an interesting thing to look at as, as a spectator.
00:36:49
Cokeley Brothers
So, but yeah.
00:36:51
Reese
He had a good win though, over wick.
00:36:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. A good one over wick. And then he, then he, he took his, uh, he, he kind of handled his, his, his bronze medal match against the Georgian who they got chippy at the end of the match, but
00:37:02
Reese
I never really thought that Rocco Welsh would kind of take off like this. Like when he was in high school I did not foresee that.
00:37:12
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, he did he did he kind of It wasn't bar was it Let me do this Who did Welsh
00:37:12
Reese
Who do you wrestle at? Who is number one? I'm trying to remember that.
00:37:19
Reese
i Don't know I don't think so maybe it was Arnold. I think it was Arnold, baby do They wrestled they wrestled a ton of times that's right.
00:37:31
Reese
Yeah, well just just bar
00:37:40
Cokeley Brothers
And Rucka Wells versus Josh Barr in 2022. Yeah. Yeah. I don't see one for Gabe Arnold.
00:37:51
Reese
Did he win you would that ah at all I definitely wrestled what year for sure, right?
00:37:55
Cokeley Brothers
He won 2022 whose number one tournament at 170. Oh, so it was a tournament. Hmm. Or maybe it wasn't a tournament. Maybe it maybe it wasn't a tournament. I don't know. The Internet could be wrong.
00:38:09
Cokeley Brothers
Where was Gabe Arnold here? I don't know if Gabe Arnold ever wrestled at who's number one.
00:38:17
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. I don't know. Uh, oh yeah. Here's a, here's a photo of him wrestling at who's number one. He's wrestling Josh Barr. This is 2021. Okay. Or no, that's Rocco.
00:38:36
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know my wrestlers.
00:38:42
Reese
You're confusing Rocko with Gabe?
00:38:42
Cokeley Brothers
No, no, no, I if confused Rocco with Josh.
00:38:46
Cokeley Brothers
That's Gabe Arnold versus Rocco Welsh in 2021.
00:38:53
Cokeley Brothers
There you go. Uh, but yeah, so I, this, this is my guess for the, for the senior world team. Again, don't know if we'll see take it. Don't know if we'll see him at 74. Don't know if we'll see Jordan burrows at all or Gable.
00:39:06
Cokeley Brothers
Steve's in, uh, Jesse Mendez might not wrestle 65 kilos. I mean, he might not wrestle at all. If he's going to wrestle, it'll be a 65. Uh, but we, I have confidence.
00:39:14
Reese
What makes you think he he won't wrestle?
00:39:17
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. He might just not be trying to make a senior world team right now. I don't know, but I think you would.
00:39:22
Reese
There's one other thing that frickin' so annoying. So annoying listening to podcasts sometimes, you know, because there's a one-way thing. But they were talking about Mendez and how yeah like, Willie was talking about their lineup and then Bass was like, oh, Mendez is done after this year. I was just like,
00:39:45
Reese
It was like, oh yeah, you're right. That was the end of that. I was like, I don't know. Shit drives me crazy.
00:39:51
Cokeley Brothers
Oh yeah, oh yeah. So they they were talking about ah somebody fitting in at Ohio State.
00:39:57
Cokeley Brothers
And they were like, because you're going to have because Willie was doing this thing. He was talking about like all these people still still being around. And I'm like, we don't have we don't really deal with the Covid years anymore. And we're talking about class of 2026. So these kids aren't going to be. And then they they also have a red shirt. So we got plenty of elbow room to to get to process what's currently and to get them out. So that was a little frustrating to listen to.
00:40:21
Cokeley Brothers
And I, I hear you when you say like, sometimes it sounds like they're both kind of on their, their separate tracks. And so they're just waiting for a break in the sound so that they can kind of do their own thing, but but yeah, uh, I feel confident in Spencer Lee.
00:40:30
Reese
Yeah, I mean Willie is just a yeah it bass is just a robot He's very robotic
00:40:46
Cokeley Brothers
In Kyle Snyder, in Aaron Brooks, Zahid Valencia, Yanni, and Vito. I think Yanni and Vito will have tough, tough challenges. I think Zahid will have, you know, he'll have, uh, possibly Storachi, Trent Heidley, Chance Marsteller, uh, Nate Jackson. Like he'll, he'll have tough matches, but, uh, I think he'll probably be the guy. So.
00:41:11
Reese
Yeah, Nate Jackson, that could be interesting, but maybe not.
00:41:15
Cokeley Brothers
It could be that you could also just.
00:41:16
Reese
Someone who can like match his length and size.
00:41:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but you can't get any of those crammed doubles whenever he's wrestling from a knee.
00:41:24
Reese
Yeah, whenever it's a heat dressing for me.
00:41:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah, it's frustrating to wrestle.
00:41:31
Cokeley Brothers
OK, let's start looking at some of these. Upcoming duels, I know right now, I think as we're hosting this podcast or or recording this podcast, I think One duel is wrestling right now.
00:41:46
Cokeley Brothers
I think it's Utah Valley in West Virginia, which has one has one really good matchup.
00:41:53
Cokeley Brothers
With and some others, but but one really good matchup with. Terrell Barakla and Peyton Hall.
00:41:59
Reese
Where they are It should be going right now, this is six I think six central I
00:42:02
Cokeley Brothers
don't know I don't know. I don't even it it might not be. They might not be wrestling right now.
00:42:08
Cokeley Brothers
For Virginia. West Virginia wrestling. Utah Valley.
00:42:18
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, they're in Utah. 6pm Mountain time.
00:42:25
Cokeley Brothers
So this should be started. There should be 30 minutes into it.
00:42:30
Cokeley Brothers
It's on it's on flow wrestling.
00:42:31
Reese
Why am I not, so I did on my phone anymore.
00:42:35
Cokeley Brothers
I was I was also signed out today.
00:42:39
Reese
Did I, I had to log in, I had to log into Ryan's account recently and I hadn't had to do that in like years. Still remember the password.
00:42:50
Cokeley Brothers
Nice. ah So they're at ah they must have started at a heavier weight.
00:42:58
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, they started at 174. It looks like or yeah.
00:43:02
Reese
Okay Yeah sugar burgers West Virginia
00:43:03
Cokeley Brothers
So they're going to they're saving 165 for the very end. too And there's there's still a couple of good a couple of interesting matches in here. West Virginia has got a pretty solid team.
00:43:15
Cokeley Brothers
And Utah Valley's got some people coming up, but they're kind of, their teams are kind of solid in the, in opposite areas. Utah Valley's got some, some better lightweight guys. West Virginia's got some better upper weight guys. Uh, Jordan Titus is also good for West Virginia, but then they both have really good 65 pounders.
00:43:29
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, and jet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jet. Yeah. So Titus.
00:43:33
Reese
Who's good at Utah Valley's lighter weights?
00:43:35
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Drury.
00:43:36
Reese
Who are there guys? Are you still around?
00:43:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He'd be a Reaney earlier this year. Hayden Drury. And I think they have somebody else whose name I'm not remembering right now. So so that's going on right now. um And then some other upcoming duels. Ryan said he wanted to hold off on Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Ohio State until he comes back because he said those are gonna be really good duels, which I agree with. So we can take a look at Michigan Penn State. did you So you obviously listened to Bash and Willie. Did you hear what what the line was set for this duel?
00:44:12
Cokeley Brothers
I think they said 38 and a half.
00:44:16
Cokeley Brothers
For Penn State, Michigan.
00:44:20
Cokeley Brothers
38 and a half. I don't care how.
00:44:22
Reese
The lines are getting very self, are getting very aware of what Penn State does.
00:44:27
Cokeley Brothers
ah All right, but I don't care how good you are. That's an absurd line.
00:44:32
Cokeley Brothers
Was it not? I mean, I'm I'm going to pull up.
00:44:34
Reese
Yeah, well like, I mean, so what, is that four bonus wins? I guess it's a lot of bonus wins.
00:44:44
Cokeley Brothers
that's a That's a, that's a, that's a shutout with nine bonus points.
00:44:46
Reese
Like three, three pins. So you'd need three pins, yeah.
00:44:52
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Which is, I mean, they could, that's, they could, they could, Michigan could 100% get a win.
00:44:56
Reese
Who's gonna, I mean, they're not gonna get a win at any weight, as if they wrestle their they're starting guys.
00:45:05
Cokeley Brothers
They, their favorite out of weight, one 97.
00:45:06
Reese
Well, wait. Wait. Oh, yeah, Carditis. Forgot about you.
00:45:11
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. Um, so little doll is probably a guy who's, who, who you, you should expect bonus from major tech, maybe a pin. If you're able to get that, um,
00:45:25
Cokeley Brothers
wait, Luke little doll has a loss to Jacob Moran.
00:45:31
Cokeley Brothers
Nice back in 2022.
00:45:34
Cokeley Brothers
So, um, it must've been, uh, interesting.
00:45:34
Reese
oh Is that like a college open?
00:45:43
Cokeley Brothers
Anyway, uh, Braden Davis also, but we don't know if we're going to see Braden Davis. It could be Kurt McHenry. We don't know if Braden Davis is healthy or not. So, uh, Bo Bartlett, Sergio Lemley. That's an interesting match.
00:45:53
Cokeley Brothers
Sergio has a little down this year, Bo by decision.
00:45:58
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Shane Van Ness and I think Cam Catcherbone is the guy who is starting for, for Michigan, no longer Dylan Guilcher.
00:46:06
Cokeley Brothers
So. Uh, yeah, so Venice could, you could see a major there. Definitely. Case X, all that day.
00:46:17
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I mean, if Shane Venice really wants to put the, put the pace on him, he could get more than that. But, uh, if he's like, I got, well, he doesn't, but, uh, if he's like, I, I care about this line.
00:46:20
Reese
Well, the off chance that he wants to score a lot of points.
00:46:30
Cokeley Brothers
So I don't know.
00:46:31
Reese
He probably cares about taking more pity.
00:46:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah, scoring points for sure.
00:46:37
Reese
He's probably going to take a bit.
00:46:37
Cokeley Brothers
ah Tyler. Case X, all that day.
00:46:43
Cokeley Brothers
So that day is not great this year.
00:46:46
Reese
Yeah, I wouldn't expect bonus though.
00:46:46
Cokeley Brothers
But think about. Dude, think about last year, if there was anybody other than Bryce Andonian who was right there to beat Levi Haynes, it was chase out that day.
00:46:58
Cokeley Brothers
So he's got he's got it in him.
00:47:01
Cokeley Brothers
We just got to see it.
00:47:04
Cokeley Brothers
But I don't think we're going to see it. I think Tyler Casek is a very strong opponent.
00:47:09
Reese
What is the deal with Michigan, bro?
00:47:11
Reese
What's their deal right now? I think Cardenas is like the only transfer I've seen that has actually seemed to at least stay at the same level. If not, he's better.
00:47:20
Cokeley Brothers
They had Davison who improved last year.
00:47:25
Cokeley Brothers
and Gomez was an NCAA finalist.
00:47:26
Reese
I mean, he had a run. He had yeah the the the wood run, really.
00:47:31
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, yeah, yeah, that but that's all you need, right? That's all people are going to remember.
00:47:36
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, and Gomez was a finalist. He had he had never done that before, and but I mean, Shane Griffith, I think Shane Griffith, the writing was on the wall in terms of his progression, which looked like regression.
00:47:47
Cokeley Brothers
I don't, I don't think he was ever planning on really making serious jumps and improvement in his wrestling career.
00:47:55
Cokeley Brothers
Um, and then I don't remember what other transfers they had. So, yeah. Uh, I, Beaumont to notice can get smashed by Metropolitan brink, but that's still, that's still, you know, a top 15 matchup.
00:48:10
Cokeley Brothers
Levi Haynes is going to bully Joseph Walker. Carter Storachi is going to bully Jaden Bullock. Josh Barr, Jacob Cardenas. This is going to be another one of those. Let's, let's get, let's see the test. Let's see where you're at.
00:48:20
Cokeley Brothers
Josh Barr. And probably a one, probably a one take down match.
00:48:23
Reese
Do you, do you think Cardenas is, like, would you really put Cardenas at the same tier as, like, Buchanan?
00:48:33
Cokeley Brothers
I think this match will tell us if we should or shouldn't.
00:48:38
Cokeley Brothers
But I think he definitely can be.
00:48:40
Cokeley Brothers
i mean he's du he's he's a but
00:48:40
Reese
Like, as of right now, like, I don't know, everybody's like, you know, talking about him, like, him, Ferrari, Buchanan, those are the three guys. and I'm like, I don't know. I don't know why.
00:48:53
Reese
I don't know. I just feel like credit is good. It's susceptible to some some of those lower right guys. Maybe still maybe not He had a close it's like an 8 to 5 match for somebody who who was that No Okay McDaniel that's a close match
00:49:00
Cokeley Brothers
He's looked really good this year. I think that's been the part that's inspired a lot of confidence in people. um Let me pull it up. Take a look. 8-4 with Gabe Sollers, 5-2 with Camden McDaniel, 8-3 with Isaiah Salazar. those are Those are all of his close matches. Yeah.
00:49:24
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, Nebraska came to McDonald's not bad, but I still hear what you're saying. I stay with what we're comparing him against.
00:49:28
Reese
yeah Well, what does Barb do to Big Danalaya? Barb beat him pretty bad, did he?
00:49:31
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. ah He.
00:49:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, take them 19 to four, but sometimes Cardenas does that ah is what you typically see with him from my experience is. If he's not getting his offense rolling early, he's not going to score a lot of points is what I've experienced.
00:49:55
Cokeley Brothers
or what I witnessed, but I could be wrong.
00:49:59
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, yeah. And then, uh, Greg Kirkley is going to, uh, roll Josh Heintzeman up. So dude, so you know how a Russell stat does the common opponents thing whenever you're doing a comparison.
00:50:13
Cokeley Brothers
They have, they have a total. So Greg Kirkley is 38 and 10 versus common opponents for Josh Heinsman and Josh Heinsman's 18 and 22. I the, the, the record doesn't really matter, but just the number of matches that they both have for common opponents is crazy.
00:50:24
Ryne
That is kinda crazy.
00:50:29
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, 48 common matches.
00:50:30
Reese
ah I'm gonna be right back.
00:50:33
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:50:39
Cokeley Brothers
I just gotta use the restroom. I'm guessing. Uh, Virginia Tech, Stanford, I also have on here. I think that'll be a duel with some interesting matchups. If I can find it in here in this list.
00:51:00
Cokeley Brothers
Of course, there'll be a forfeit at 125, but Tyler and Knox, Connor McGonigal, that's gonna be a really good one. i Caleb Henson, Jaden Abbess, Sissy, Caleb Henson, see that he's really healthy. Rafael Hippolito and Grigor Chilakkin,
00:51:14
Cokeley Brothers
Not too highly ranked guys, but two very ah unique wrestlers. So I would consider that a fun, fun match.
00:51:25
Cokeley Brothers
Lorenzo Norman, Lenny Wolak, we'll see where Lenny Wolak really where he where he's going to be this year. and And Lorenzo Norman, Lorenzo Norman has kind of separated himself from everybody other than the top three at 174. So if he continues to do that.
00:51:40
Cokeley Brothers
You know, he's probably going to be a guy that If he, if he can upset anybody between Levi Haines, Keegan O'Toole and Dean Hamity, it's going to be Hamity. I don't think he'd be able to beat, but I wouldn't rule it out. I wouldn't rule it out. I mean, maybe O'Toole, if O'Toole's not fully healthy. I don't think he beats Haines though. So, but you keep, you keep it in mind. Stemmit and Smith. And, uh, yeah, there's that duel. I think, uh,
00:52:12
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Russell stat predicts Virginia tech over stand for 26 to nine. Yeah. Okay. Uh, you want to take a look at the pit UNC.
00:52:27
Ryne
Let's go. Some ACC action, baby.
00:52:29
Cokeley Brothers
All right. Let's take, let's take, let's take a look at this. Well, I just had an ACC duel. That's okay. That's all right.
00:52:39
Ryne
Yeah, but this is the premier, the premier duel for the ACC this weekend.
00:52:39
Cokeley Brothers
Don't forget.
00:52:43
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Yeah. Yeah. So Russell stat has this currently predicted at 16 15. Um, and there's going to be some, there's going to be a couple of interesting matches in here.
00:53:00
Cokeley Brothers
Somewhere. Luca Augustine, Josh, August, Sonia, Gavin Kane, Reese Heller, uh, Kaitlin out maxed out. And.
00:53:11
Cokeley Brothers
Honestly, that that's kind of it. This will be a very interesting duel. Not too many interesting matchups, though.
00:53:18
Ryne
who's Who's Derek Cotton gonna have or whatever his name is?
00:53:23
Cokeley Brothers
Charlie at 165. He will have ah Jared Kessler or Nick Fay or Russell for UNC. But I don't know. Either one is predicted to be Kessler, so. Yeah.
00:53:41
Cokeley Brothers
That's going to, that is, that is, uh, if you want to watch an entertaining duel and not know what the team outcome is going to be, that's one to take a look at.
00:53:49
Cokeley Brothers
So UNC pit.
00:53:54
Cokeley Brothers
And then Pittsburgh has another fun one against Iowa state. ah That'll be that'll be good. And then I think this last one Cornell Penn I think they've both kind of smashed the rest of the Ivy League I don't think it's gonna be a super interesting duel But I am interested to see Simon Ruiz and Nick and Contreras And then I really just want to see what the Cornell lineup looks like what it's gonna shake out to be Right before the postseason so because we know Brett Unger is going down No,
00:54:22
Reese
You don't think that'll be a competitive duel?
00:54:27
Cokeley Brothers
probably not
00:54:27
Reese
the they got They got a good like lower weight lineup, right? Pin does.
00:54:33
Cokeley Brothers
Let me take a look here.
00:54:36
Reese
Gallagher, that Ryan kid, is he still around?
00:54:40
Cokeley Brothers
So yeah, they got Max Gallagher.
00:54:42
Cokeley Brothers
Max Gallagher, Marcella Milani, that'll be a good match. ah Ryan Miller, Tyler Ferrara, that'll be a good match. C.J. Composto, Josh Shonders, Crosswesaluski, Ethan Fernandez, Reese is right.
00:54:53
Cokeley Brothers
Reese is right. Jude Swisher, Myra Shapiro. you Jude is probably gonna have a tough time with that matchup.
00:54:59
Cokeley Brothers
But then Ramirez has ah has an easy match. a Again, the Ruiz, Incontrara match. Ruiz won it, or Incontrara won it earlier this year. So see what happens there. Chris Focca, Max Hale, I think.
00:55:12
Cokeley Brothers
No, Focus won this match. This is not the match that he has lost. It was, he lost to a Columbia kid, a lot. And then, yeah, Cornell probably wins the 97 in heavyweight match-ups. Wrestle Stats got the prediction at 27 to six Cornell over Penn. But, I mean, those lightweight matches, those those are those are a little bit more of a toss-up, for sure. And then, it's time. It's time for your favorite segment of the episode.
00:55:43
Cokeley Brothers
The Hoosier Hour. And coming off of a win against Northwestern last week, the Indiana Hoosiers are hosting Oklahoma State. Ohio State.
00:55:54
Cokeley Brothers
And it's going to be, it's going to be a tough duel. I don't think they were initially, I don't think this was initially supposed to be a ah home duel for our, for Indiana, but they also at first, I believe their home schedule was Rutgers in Northwestern and that's it. And so I think this got switched around or it was just wrong on the schedule or I miss Reddit, whatever. There's a, there's a good, good set of match-ups in here and.
00:56:17
Cokeley Brothers
If we get the right results for the Hoosiers, if we see the right things happen. This is a, an upset duel. Um, but the key match-ups are Jacob Moran versus Brandon McCrone.
00:56:29
Cokeley Brothers
Angelo Rini versus Nick Buzakis, Tyler Lillard against Patty Gallagher, Gallagher, or Ethan Burden. I, I guess maybe Gallagher might be, might be making his way back down to 57 or did he wrestle at 65 last weekend?
00:56:42
Cokeley Brothers
Do we know?
00:56:43
Ryne
Why would he be making his way back down? Are we really?
00:56:46
Cokeley Brothers
i I think I think we're I think we're we're done with the Sammy Sasso experiment.
00:56:46
Reese
Yeah. What makes you say that?
00:56:51
Cokeley Brothers
I think we're done.
00:56:52
Reese
Just, just for no reason other than.
00:56:56
Cokeley Brothers
Well, why why would?
00:56:57
Reese
So what do you mean done with it? Put them back up at 65?
00:57:00
Cokeley Brothers
No, I think he's not in the lineup.
00:57:00
Reese
Is that what you're saying?
00:57:01
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think he's the best option at either way.
00:57:03
Reese
Well, who's their best option at 65?
00:57:06
Cokeley Brothers
Ethan Burton.
00:57:09
Cokeley Brothers
I guess I don't know.
00:57:09
Ryne
burden Burden is good.
00:57:11
Reese
Well, why did they put him? Why'd they put Sasso down at 57?
00:57:15
Cokeley Brothers
Cause they were trying, they were, they were trying to figure it out.
00:57:15
Reese
to begin with, if they didn't think...
00:57:18
Cokeley Brothers
They, they were giving him his opportunities and and they had, you know, I don't think he'll be their guy.
00:57:21
Reese
I think he'll stay at 57.
00:57:24
Cokeley Brothers
I think Gallagher is a better option.
00:57:27
Cokeley Brothers
Handily, but anyway, did it has Patty.
00:57:28
Reese
there must be There must be a reason that they moved him down to 57. Maybe the reason was that he was getting the better patty in the room.
00:57:38
Cokeley Brothers
let me Let me hang on. Let me pull up. Let me pull up Patty. Here's Patty Gallagher. And then let me pull up Sammy Sasso.
00:57:49
Cokeley Brothers
i Let me, let me defend myself before you continue throwing my words back on myself.
00:57:53
Ryne
I don't know if I can.
00:57:56
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. So so far, Patty Gallagher's record is 11 and five. Sammy's is 11 and seven at one 57. Sammy Sasso has, uh, one, two, three, four, five, six wins and four losses.
00:58:14
Cokeley Brothers
He's lost to Jackson. Erington. That's a good loss. Joey blaze, Jacory Teamer. He got majored by chase. I'll take.
00:58:22
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. At one 57, Patty Gallagher has four losses to Jason Crazer, Cody Chitum, uh, medical forfeit to Caleb fish, and then tight on trail Taylor. He lost his son victory. He's beaten, uh, Panera Johnson, who's down at 49. Uh, he has beaten, uh, legend Lamer.
00:58:51
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. This could be where I'm wrong a little bit, but also Sasso. Sasso's best win is Connor hair of Rutgers at one 57.
00:59:01
Ryne
on paper On paper, they're about even, so it's going to come down to a wrestle-off. ah Who do you really think wins a wrestle-off?
00:59:11
Ryne
there's a reason There's a reason they flip-flop, I promise.
00:59:15
Reese
What, why do you, why do you not want to see Sasso wrestle, Sammy?
00:59:16
Ryne
There was probably already a wrestle-off.
00:59:20
Cokeley Brothers
No, I do. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:59:21
Ryne
Showtime sasso. Showtime sasso.
00:59:23
Cokeley Brothers
No, no, no. I like, I like Sammy Sasso, but when, when, ah when I put my coat...
00:59:27
Reese
But you're making this.
00:59:31
Cokeley Brothers
You want me to finish?
00:59:32
Reese
You're making spec, you're speculating needlessly.
00:59:35
Ryne
Go ahead and finish.
00:59:36
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, no, was good reason. Good. Let me finish. When I put my coach's cap on, right. And I, and I look at the facts and I look at how do I put my 10 best guys out there for the post-season? Right.
00:59:46
Cokeley Brothers
I don't reasonably see a way where Sammy Sasso fits into that because.
00:59:49
Reese
Why is Ethan Burden a better option?
00:59:52
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, because Sammy Sasso doesn't want to wrestle one 65, obviously.
00:59:58
Cokeley Brothers
That's why he dropped down to 57.
01:00:00
Cokeley Brothers
Isn't it?
01:00:00
Reese
Why is Patty Gallagher a better option at 57?
01:00:03
Cokeley Brothers
I think he has better results. Are they close? Yes. And is it going to come down to Russell off? Probably. And a Sammy Sasso going to win that. Yeah. And so as a coach, am I going to put Sammy Sasso out there? If that's all that's happening.
01:00:14
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. But do I, do I agree with it? Do I not, do I not have a thought in the back of my mind that says maybe Patty Gallagher would have done better at big tens. Maybe he would have done better in CAAs.
01:00:24
Ryne
I know because one guy has proven, one guy has proven to do better in the post-season than the other.
01:00:26
Reese
Well, he has no evidence, yeah.
01:00:31
Ryne
One guy is per proven, proven, regardless of injury, regardless of injury.
01:00:32
Cokeley Brothers
I agree. I agree what I, where I disagree with you. Ah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That has to be considered. That has to, because you, he's a different, he's a different wrestler, a different competitor on the mat.
01:00:44
Reese
If anything, the injury, though the context is helping him with the decision.
01:00:46
Ryne
Patty Gallagher had an injury last year too.
01:00:52
Cokeley Brothers
Patty Gallagher, what?
01:00:53
Ryne
Patty Gallagher, who is battling injury too, coming back from an injury as well. Maybe not as severe.
01:00:58
Cokeley Brothers
Diff, distinctly different types of injuries.
01:01:00
Ryne
I mean, I get it, but also, who do you want out there?
01:01:06
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
01:01:06
Ryne
The guy that's tap that made the finals twice, made the podium three times, or the guy who hasn't.
01:01:07
Reese
dude the guy who's everybody's like dude you I mean you heard sasso is very well liked to put it you know kind to put it like as basic as possible he's very well liked in that on that team like I'm they're not gonna
01:01:25
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I know. and And there's a lot of there's a lot of reasons to like him. ah The story behind it is great. And the the type of wrestler he is and and he he's a warrior as a person.
01:01:36
Cokeley Brothers
I don't disagree with any of the sentiments. um And and.
01:01:40
Reese
but So you're talking about putting a guy with like the point differential like when it comes down to like the NCAA tournament is negligible really
01:01:47
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I think you're right.
01:01:50
Cokeley Brothers
I think you're right. I don't know. When I look at when I look at a sudden victory match with Antrell Taylor that Patty Gallagher has, I see a level of potential there. Right. But also later on in the season, he loses 60 to nine to Jason Crazer. and and i And I say, well, that's a little that's a little concerning.
01:02:08
Ryne
I think if you pulled every single division one head coach on this topic, they would all say the same thing that Reese and I were saying, go with that.
01:02:17
Ryne
So every single one, every single one, every single one.
01:02:22
Cokeley Brothers
Every single one, I think that's really every single one. Okay. What about, what if I, I'm going to, I'm going to ask for, I'll ask a friend.
01:02:33
Cokeley Brothers
I'll phone a friend. I'll see what he, I'll see what he says. And and we'll, we'll, we'll continue this.
01:02:39
Cokeley Brothers
I could be wrong. I'm he's a four time national champ, so you you can figure it out from there.
01:02:44
Cokeley Brothers
I'm more than happy to be wrong. about this and yes, and from his from my days at wrestling his wrestlers from Arkansas.
01:02:55
Cokeley Brothers
I'm more than happy to be wrong about this.
01:02:57
Cokeley Brothers
I'm i'm excited by the idea of Sami Sasso having the opportunity to do something awesome in in Philadelphia in this pro season.
01:03:02
Ryne
I'm not entirely sure you should ask Yani either because ah he might have some bias because he's, because he's competed against that.
01:03:08
Cokeley Brothers
He's got bias maybe. No, he does a pretty good job of of of being objective in these situations.
01:03:15
Cokeley Brothers
I can ask other people too.
01:03:17
Cokeley Brothers
I can ask the Indiana kids, Hey, what what would you do?
01:03:17
Reese
I don't get it, bro. i don't get the I don't even get the point, man. Leave him alone. Leave Sasso alone.
01:03:24
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know, dude. Okay. All right. So, so this, this was started because they're wrestling. Indiana is wrestling, uh, Ohio state this weekend.
01:03:35
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. So Sammy's house was going to go out there.
01:03:35
Reese
So you want him you don't want him to wrestle you guys. You're scared of Sasso.
01:03:40
Cokeley Brothers
No, no, no, no, no. I have, I have Gallagher or Burton listed at 65.
01:03:46
Reese
Because you're scared.
01:03:48
Cokeley Brothers
No, because sassos at 57.
01:03:50
Ryne
Yeah. race That didn't make sense.
01:03:53
Reese
You're scared of Sasso.
01:03:54
Cokeley Brothers
I know I, because I, because I have a list of, I have a list of significant match ups.
01:03:54
Reese
Well, what do you mean it doesn't make sense?
01:03:56
Ryne
He thinks, he thinks SAS was wrestling 57. He just doesn't think he thinks SAS was going to probably kill whoever Indiana throws out there.
01:04:01
Cokeley Brothers
I have a list of
01:04:05
Ryne
That's why he didn't put it down there.
01:04:06
Cokeley Brothers
He's not going to, he's not, he's not going to kill him. Indiana's got, it he's got a, we've got a solid, but young and green freshmen at, at a 157. He's he's.
01:04:15
Ryne
Who's going to take a high crotch and get cradled up and pinned probably.
01:04:18
Cokeley Brothers
No, no, because, because we have a guy like Graham Rooks who can say, Hey, I was but put in that position for like three years straight. This is how you don't get pinned.
01:04:29
Reese
So I'm confused. Do you you do or don't want him to wrestle? Or is he or is he not wrestling?
01:04:34
Cokeley Brothers
i I don't know what he's going to. I'm expecting him to wrestle 57 this weekend, but I don't know who we're going to see at 65 because Gallagher didn't wrestle. ah No, did he?
01:04:47
Cokeley Brothers
Did Gallagher wrestle in their most recent duel against Michigan? No, he didn't.
01:04:50
Ryne
It was burden burden wrestled against uh bowman bowman one Because
01:04:50
Cokeley Brothers
It was Ethan Burton. Yes.
Sammy Sasso's Potential Comeback
01:05:00
Cokeley Brothers
um I don't know. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. I'm working quickly here.
01:05:03
Ryne
of burden burden beat burden beat bowman I was gonna say burden beat bowman then I think patty's out out
01:05:04
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yes, yes.
01:05:10
Cokeley Brothers
No, no burden burden has wrestled the most recent duel. He lost 12 to five to bow man. So. Dude, yeah, I just I just. I think in the matches show, it's close. And so with that, you lean with the guy who is going to bring provide the best culture.
01:05:31
Cokeley Brothers
Right. ah To have a guy like Sammy Sasso, you know, step or walking right, right with you side by side during the postseason is a great boost to the team's energy. I agree with that.
01:05:41
Ryne
That that and that and the fact that he's proven you go with the guy that's proven every time It doesn't it doesn't matter He could totally come he could totally come back to form for two for two competitions just all of a sudden he could just be a
01:05:42
Cokeley Brothers
And I want to see Sammy Sasso do well.
01:05:49
Cokeley Brothers
He's proven, but he's but he's he's so different now. And and yes, he is proven because because where it where where the things that where where it hasn't changed is up here. So I don't disagree with that. Right. He's got these
01:06:04
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, that would that would be that would be miraculous. And I'm not saying it's not gonna happen, but it would be so odd to see.
01:06:13
Reese
Hmm you saying we're done with the sasso experiment makes me think you're not you don't think it's gonna happen Your own coach What was your coach think of this talk
01:06:19
Ryne
Listen, I think about guys, I think about guys like Wyatt Sheets and Jason Sertitz.
01:06:20
Cokeley Brothers
I don't expect it to.
01:06:29
Ryne
Wyatt Sheets, not so much. Wyatt Sheets, not so much, but Jason, yes.
01:06:40
Cokeley Brothers
I think Jason would say, well, I wasn't shot. So it's a little different.
01:06:44
Ryne
ah Jason was, dude, he went through some shit.
01:06:47
Cokeley Brothers
He was going i I fully understand it. So the things that needed to be worked on were up here, not physical limitations. it's It is a physical limitation is an insane barrier to get through.
01:06:58
Ryne
You don't know what it- You don't know what those tragedies did to him physically.
01:07:01
Ryne
They could have been limiting him.
01:07:03
Cokeley Brothers
okay well.
01:07:07
Cokeley Brothers
So I'm going to.
01:07:08
Reese
you just don't believe in the human the human body believe come on bro you can't say you're a believer when you you you you were like are we done are we done now isn't
01:07:11
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, you guys are are trying to paint me as a hater. I'm not I'm not a hater.
01:07:14
Ryne
Rees and I. Rees and I believe.
01:07:17
Cokeley Brothers
I also believe I also believe I just i' I'm looking at the evidence and it's like this doesn't look good.
01:07:29
Ryne
believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe.
01:07:32
Cokeley Brothers
OK, OK, so so I am not a I'm not a believer, but I will be a supporter. about that or, or, or I don't know.
01:07:41
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know how else to put it. If he, if he, if he goes out there and he steps on the line and he's wrestling, I'm watching him and I'm cheering him on them unless he's ah if I, if I see him, if I see him this weekend, I'm not cheering him on.
01:07:46
Ryne
I do want, I do want to, uh,
01:07:51
Cokeley Brothers
Indiana.
Ohio State's Wrestling Strategy and Future Commitments
01:07:52
Ryne
I do want to finish this off this topic.
01:07:54
Ryne
I want to finish this off by saying that I'm not sure I'm going to pick him to AA either until I see the bracket. I got to see where he's at in the bracket.
01:08:05
Reese
Yeah, I don't know if I'd pick him to AA right now.
01:08:11
Reese
But wrestle, I mean, but when I pick Patty Gallagher, hey, I'm doubtful.
01:08:14
Cokeley Brothers
Now I would need to even need the right path you would need the right path well don't be stuck with the right path it could happen Okay,
01:08:20
Reese
But at the very least, let him wrestle.
01:08:22
Ryne
no you're right with the right path
01:08:25
Cokeley Brothers
ah so okay, so 165 Tyler Lillard verse, whoever, whatever Buckeyes out there, 60, 74, Guilcher, Karchula, Hartula, 84, Washington, Rogotsky, 97, Solid Shumate and heavyweight Bullock Feldman.
01:08:40
Cokeley Brothers
There are some serious uphill battles for some of those matches, but I think those are all ones that lie in the, in the balance of what guy shows up, right?
01:08:47
Ryne
No, you're right with the right path.
01:08:52
Cokeley Brothers
We might not even see Buzak because we might see, uh, Davino, I think he still has dates available and.
01:08:56
Ryne
Well, if you see Divino, it's done.
01:08:59
Cokeley Brothers
yeah Yeah.
01:09:00
Reese
I'm hearing rumbling rumblings about Buzakis leaving after this year.
01:09:06
Cokeley Brothers
There's rumors?
01:09:08
Cokeley Brothers
Or is it people just saying?
01:09:09
Reese
he's going to leave for well Here's the here's thing, the rumors that Vince was switching his commitment were also like coincided with the rumors that Buzakis was also leaving Ohio State and going to Pitt.
01:09:23
Cokeley Brothers
ok Okay.
01:09:25
Ryne
I haven't heard this stuff, but I like it. It's juicy. I was thinking, I was like, man, if Vince is committing to pit, then here comes boozy. Cause you know who, you know, who's that pit for boozy to work out with?
01:09:38
Reese
Nikko Luke he's an Ohio State guy I have not seen anything about that
01:09:39
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, the short guy, the, no, the, uh, the one Luke pleasure.
01:09:42
Ryne
Luke Fletcher. There you go.
01:09:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. Yep. Yeah. Uh, yeah. Yeah.
01:09:51
Cokeley Brothers
So, um, I'm going to be, I'm going to be cheering on. Yeah. Well, we're not Ohio state fans right now. reese We're Indiana fans.
01:09:57
Ryne
Are you hearing any revelings about them pulling Davino's red shirt and going ahead and going with him and not Buzakis Reese?
01:10:03
Cokeley Brothers
They won't do that. They won't do that.
01:10:05
Cokeley Brothers
No, I'm not going to do that.
01:10:05
Ryne
Okay. All right. Why?
01:10:09
Cokeley Brothers
because they won't.
01:10:13
Cokeley Brothers
Ohio State has a plan, obviously, and they're not going to deviate from their plan. Okay, they have a plan for Sasso, they have a plan for Buzakis, they have a plan for Gallagher, they have a plan for everybody, for Rogotsky, for Geog, for Shumate, for Rocco, for Feldman, for
01:10:28
Reese
Sammy and I were talking about Rocco, and I was telling him how i was kind of I'm surprised by the levels he's jumped. i In high school, I wouldn't have expected him to be at this level that he's at now.
01:10:43
Reese
I don't know. I just saw him as like another guy like ah like you know Rylan Rogers, I feel like. Those were like similar guys, in my opinion.
01:10:53
Ryne
But he was, I mean, dude, this is this is a guy who was going back and forth with Josh Barr.
01:10:53
Reese
And you know look at where Rylan Rogers is.
01:11:00
Reese
Well, Josh Barr, you know, Josh Barr, Manny Rojas. I don't know. There's a lot of these guys like Josh Barr, Manny Rojas, Gabe Arnold, Rylan Rogers.
01:11:09
Ryne
I had no faith in Manny Rojas.
01:11:10
Cokeley Brothers
Some, some, some, some people don't translate into.
01:11:11
Ryne
I'm going to go ahead and point that out.
01:11:16
Ryne
I thought Rocco, I thought Rocco Welsh was, I always kind of was like, yeah, this guy's going to be good.
01:11:17
Cokeley Brothers
I think.
01:11:23
Ryne
Did I think he was going to make the national finals this freshman year? No, but I did think he was going to be good.
01:11:26
Cokeley Brothers
No, he got his. His.
01:11:29
Reese
I didn't think he'd be making the finals and I definitely didn't see him. I don't know if Evan Wick is not the same guy, but I was surprised to see him beat Evan Wick too this week.
01:11:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. So here's here's a couple of things.
01:11:41
Ryne
Thank you. I think it was a statement match by by our boy Rocco.
01:11:44
Cokeley Brothers
I didn't I didn't watch a lot of, I didn't watch any Rocco when he was in high school that, that generation of high school wrestlers, I didn't watch any of. And so i'm I'm out of the loop in terms of what they looked like and and what I could kind of see in terms of who would translate well into college.
01:11:59
Cokeley Brothers
But just looking at Rocco's build, it's like, yeah, he's a very strong guy. And if you have guys in high school who rely a lot on strength to kind of, you know, achieve the level of success that they have, that doesn't always translate into collegiate success because that gets caught up on.
01:12:11
Reese
And he won a lot of close matches, like he was a close match winner.
01:12:14
Ryne
He didn't, I wouldn't say he relied on his strength though.
01:12:17
Cokeley Brothers
No, so, so that's why I said the disclaimer of me saying, I didn't watch him in high school. I'm just looking at his built and saying, this guy's a very strong guy.
01:12:24
Cokeley Brothers
So I don't know if, if maybe that's what's playing into it.
01:12:25
Ryne
I think strength is an, is an underrated, uh, attribute in college wrestling. I think I, and I tell kids that all the time.
01:12:31
Cokeley Brothers
No, it 100% is.
01:12:33
Ryne
I'm like, yo, you need to get like, just get stronger. You'll be surprised at how many more matches you'll start winning just because you're getting stronger.
01:12:39
Cokeley Brothers
It 100% is. And, um, it, it. It's a big factor, but if it's something that you lean on entirely rather than developing true technique and understanding the flow of a match, then you'll fall behind. But obviously he understands wrestling very well. Uh, he looked great this weekend. He looked great last year. He'll look great in the future.
01:13:00
Ryne
This is a dude who's winning Fargo. And I mean, like he had all of the, no, but, but he's beating, but he was beating good dudes to like Josh Barr to win Fargo.
01:13:04
Reese
Well, you know, lots of tons of Fargo champs.
01:13:04
Cokeley Brothers
Hmm. That's a Fargo champs.
01:13:06
Reese
and I just didn't know, man.
01:13:11
Ryne
And I i didn't think, I didn't think Rylan Rogers was going to do that.
01:13:13
Reese
I didn't know, you know, Rylan Rogers is another example of that, like guy who was on that level and he is not doing much at all.
01:13:24
Ryne
Well, to be honest with you.
01:13:26
Cokeley Brothers
I remember him being a significant name, but wasn't was he... No, I'm thinking of Ryan Garcia.
01:13:30
Ryne
it He's isn't Rylan Rogers and LHP kid.
01:13:32
Cokeley Brothers
Nevermind.
01:13:35
Reese
no he's uh he's no he's not i thought he was from up north yeah i thought he was i didn't think he was a florida guy maybe ryan rogers from
01:13:38
Cokeley Brothers
I thought he was Michigan. He was wrestling at Michigan, didn't he? He might be. No, Ryan, you're thinking of Bryce Rogers, who wrestled at Brown.
01:13:58
Ryne
Yeah. Where are you from?
01:14:00
Cokeley Brothers
Rylan Rogers.
01:14:03
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know why I'm looking this up on my phone. Idaho.
01:14:07
Reese
That's what I thought. Okay, I don't know.
01:14:09
Cokeley Brothers
No, you you is though.
01:14:10
Reese
I wanted to say Washington, but that's because of Chandler and Jordan Rodgers and they're not related.
01:14:16
Ryne
Oh, aren't they though?
01:14:19
Reese
Well, I looked up his bio and they weren't, they weren't mentioned in his bio. So maybe they are like cousins or something.
01:14:24
Cokeley Brothers
He went to he went to
01:14:24
Ryne
I think they're, I thought they were cousins. I thought I remember hearing something about them in an interview being cousins.
01:14:29
Reese
Which is another reason why I was like, it could be good.
01:14:33
Cokeley Brothers
He went to Coeur d'Alene.
01:14:37
Reese
I looked at that place up, it's beautiful.
01:14:40
Ryne
That's that's where North Idaho is. Oh, he is a Blair.
01:14:42
Cokeley Brothers
He's a Blair Academy kid.
01:14:43
Ryne
He is a Blair kid. That's right. I was like, I was pretty sure he was prep prep school guy.
01:14:49
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know if he, I think he finished things out at home though at Idaho.
01:14:57
Ryne
quarter la Court of Lane, Court of Lane. That's where North Idaho is. Another another premier.
01:15:01
Cokeley Brothers
It's in North Idaho. Oh, a school.
01:15:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah,
Oklahoma's Triumph in the SEC Wrestling Title
01:15:07
Ryne
Junior, junior college, community college, whatever you want to call it.
01:15:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah.
01:15:10
Ryne
North Idaho college.
01:15:11
Ryne
I think that's what it is.
01:15:14
Ryne
They're, I mean, they're up there. They're like, they're good.
01:15:17
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
01:15:20
Cokeley Brothers
Closing, closing notes. I didn't mention this last week. Oklahoma won the SEC title in wrestling beating, beating Mizzou.
01:15:26
Reese
We're not we're not talking about, Iowa, Nebraska What is going on there with you
01:15:30
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, that's right.
01:15:33
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan. I saved this for you.
01:15:40
Ryne
What do you want me, what do you want me to say?
01:15:43
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. You were excited about it. So Oh,
01:15:44
Ryne
I think it's going to be eight to two.
01:15:49
Ryne
It's at the sec. It's at Carver and Smith and Hardy.
01:15:54
Cokeley Brothers
that's brutal.
01:15:55
Reese
Iowa Who's getting the two wins Ridge and yeah, how do you ask to get a win?
01:16:04
Cokeley Brothers
Brock Hardy's not going to get a win?
01:16:10
Reese
So you think Parker's gonna beat Ridge Always does shut the hell up you two
01:16:11
Ryne
Nothing already. He always has.
01:16:13
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, he's undefeated.
01:16:17
Ryne
and way he does he always going
01:16:20
Reese
Backside, backside, sad boy, sad boy, hours on the backside.
01:16:23
Cokeley Brothers
Sad boy.
01:16:24
Ryne
in and Well, this stool is at Carver Hawkeye arena.
01:16:24
Cokeley Brothers
And then the other the other win was bullshit.
01:16:26
Reese
Super ultra controversial win at Arizona State.
01:16:29
Cokeley Brothers
I'll try. I'll try.
01:16:31
Reese
Super controversial.
01:16:38
Cokeley Brothers
Um, um, I mean, we'll see.
01:16:41
Cokeley Brothers
We'll see.
01:16:42
Cokeley Brothers
But then you, oh, oh, uh, jacory's not wrestling jacory's not wrestling.
01:16:43
Ryne
It's going to be about.
01:16:48
Reese
how did do you we knows for sure
01:16:50
Cokeley Brothers
I think we've seen the probables. So it's Miguel
Iowa vs. Nebraska Wrestling Duel Predictions
01:16:53
Cokeley Brothers
Estrada versus entrell Taylor.
01:16:54
Ryne
I heard, I heard, I've heard that they might be seeking, seeking another year for jacory.
01:16:55
Cokeley Brothers
Still a good match.
01:17:01
Cokeley Brothers
No way, dude.
01:17:03
Reese
number eight number eight it's crazy how regular that's becoming well it's not regular necessarily but
01:17:04
Cokeley Brothers
Oh my God.
01:17:05
Ryne
This is what I hear.
01:17:08
Cokeley Brothers
Hang on, let me, let me.
01:17:11
Ryne
And you know what, I hear it and I was with you guys, but then I was like, but why would, why else would they pull Miguel's red shirt?
01:17:12
Cokeley Brothers
That'll.
01:17:18
Ryne
Why wouldn't they just wrestle? Why wouldn't they just throw a guy out there like Caleb ratchet or ratchet? You know what I mean?
01:17:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, Miguel, so they, they just, they just put out 10. So it's, it's Cruz at 25, Sri, Sriver at 41 and Estrada at 57. So. the rest of the lineup is as expected.
01:17:37
Cokeley Brothers
So I'm gonna say Nebraska wins 25, 41, 49, and 57. It's gonna be a 6-4 duel with 33 hanging in the balance.
01:17:48
Ryne
Joey Cruz could definitely beat Caleb Smith.
01:17:51
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but he's not gonna, he's not gonna, i don't I don't disagree with you, but he's not gonna.
01:17:54
Ryne
This has some bad losses. Smith, he loses some like head scratches sometimes.
01:18:01
Cokeley Brothers
He, uh, what's his biggest head scratcher here? Let me pull up a Caleb Smith.
01:18:08
Ryne
And what if they don't go with, what if they don't go with Caleb Smith? What if it's a loud dressian or it's in loud dressian.
01:18:13
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Lordson. That was Lordson.
01:18:20
Ryne
Funky name that I don't like to pronounce because it hurts my brain.
01:18:24
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, yeah, Trevor Anderson was not a great loss for Smith, but other than that, he's been pretty dang consistent this year. Eddie Ventresca, Troy Spratly, Trevor Anderson, and Luke Lillardall.
01:18:33
Reese
He ain't losing to Joey Cruz.
01:18:36
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think he's going to lose to Joey Cruz.
01:18:36
Reese
He's too good. He's too good on their feet.
01:18:38
Cokeley Brothers
I'm not going to rule it out, but I'm not going to, I'm not going to expect it.
01:18:42
Reese
He's too good on his feet, bro. And Joey Cruz is too aggressive. He's gonna sting him.
01:18:46
Cokeley Brothers
He's going to stink him.
01:18:48
Reese
And then sting him again.
01:18:51
Ryne
I'm just saying that wouldn't, that wouldn't surprise me.
01:18:53
Ryne
I'm also not calling it, but I'm i'm just saying Joey Cruz definitely could win that match.
01:18:57
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Right. Just, just, just like van D could be Nihala.
01:19:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Reese, go ahead.
01:19:05
Reese
i Don't think so He did beat tesky last year, but you know tesky not not
01:19:07
Ryne
Not after what I saw last week. All you gotta to do is stay out of that stupid Jonesy tilt. You're good to go.
01:19:14
Cokeley Brothers
Nah, he's got more than that.
Analysis of Wrestlers' Techniques and Performances
01:19:21
Reese
on the aiolas level I'll take Think that's probably it, right?
01:19:22
Ryne
And that was at Nebraska.
01:19:32
Cokeley Brothers
74 will be interesting Pinto
01:19:34
Reese
Who's there, 74? Oh, Pinto.
01:19:37
Cokeley Brothers
Pinto Kennedy Right
01:19:38
Reese
Pinto Kennedy. That will be interesting. It could be interesting.
01:19:42
Cokeley Brothers
says right says Yeah Wow
01:19:44
Reese
Could be. Wait, what do you think's gonna happen?
01:19:47
Ryne
I think no, no, I think ken I think Kennedy will probably get two or three takedowns I
01:19:47
Reese
One takedown, control.
01:19:53
Reese
I remember when we were talking about Pinto at the start of the year, how he was moving down, and you guys were like, oh, you didn't like it?
01:19:59
Ryne
Didn't like it I didn't like it On paper
01:20:00
Reese
I thought i felt like,
01:20:01
Cokeley Brothers
No, I also didn't like it.
01:20:03
Reese
Oh, I got the vibe that both of you guys were like, oh, yeah. Good. That'll be good. That's exciting.
01:20:09
Cokeley Brothers
No, I was ah the thing that I liked about Lenny Pinto.
01:20:12
Ryne
I liked it on paper, I guess, but like, and you know, if you think about it, it's like guys guys just don't guys always do better when they move up versus moving down.
01:20:21
Cokeley Brothers
the guy The thing that I liked about Lenny Pinto last year or in his career so far is his power, his strength, his ability to power through positions and you lose that whenever you drop a weight class.
01:20:30
Cokeley Brothers
So that's what I was worried about.
01:20:31
Ryne
I think it's benefited already more than it's benefited Pinto.
01:20:37
Ryne
In fact, I would be I would I would see all read over Gabe Arnold.
01:20:38
Reese
are it is not having a great year Arnold probably I'd be right okay
01:20:45
Ryne
Before Kennedy over Pinto.
01:20:51
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe all reds three losses this year are to get guys and storachi and max mackanelli, but they have not been close.
01:20:53
Reese
well then he's having a pretty good year I thought he had
01:21:01
Ryne
Yeah, so I was like, that's actually not a good losses.
01:21:05
Reese
How did he do it? ah So what did he playset?
01:21:08
Cokeley Brothers
He didn't wrestle CK.
01:21:09
Cokeley Brothers
He didn't wrestle CK.
01:21:09
Ryne
Oh, yeah. Him or Pinto.
01:21:11
Cokeley Brothers
So, so he, he is actually, he's had.
01:21:17
Cokeley Brothers
Two matches that he's won that haven't gone to bonus and all of his losses have also gone to bonus. So he's almost, he is a 14 and three with an 82 or 70% bonus rate.
01:21:24
Reese
So what's his record? It's pretty good.
01:21:31
Cokeley Brothers
No, that's a solid year.
01:21:32
Ryne
Gabe likes to wrestle. Close.
01:21:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Those'll, those'll both be interesting matchup. This is going to be a really good duel. Ryan, I feel like you kind of pooed on it initially.
01:21:45
Ryne
Could be five to five, but I think it's going to be eight to two could go five.
01:21:51
Reese
Yeah When is this when is the door?
01:21:52
Ryne
I think it's going to be eight to two.
01:21:54
Cokeley Brothers
This is tomorrow. Uh, I don't know what time though.
01:21:57
Ryne
It's a Friday night duel. Probably, uh, probably the later one.
01:21:59
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And I think, I think Caliendo Mento is, is a, it's an interesting match too.
01:22:05
Cokeley Brothers
Mento Mento or Caliendo could get bonus, but it's still should be an interesting matchup. So that Russell stat has Caliendo is the third at 165.
01:22:17
Cokeley Brothers
Who would they put ahead of him?
01:22:21
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, cause he's undefeated.
01:22:22
Reese
Speaking of Peyton Hall, I guess probably hasn't rested yet.
01:22:23
Cokeley Brothers
Oh yeah. So that's going to be the last match.
01:22:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Uh, well that's Nebraska, Iowa.
01:22:32
Ryne
Peyton Hall has had a great year.
01:22:34
Cokeley Brothers
He's undefeated. He hasn't wrestled anybody crazy, but he's undefeated. So, uh, next duel we wanted to take a look at is also.
01:22:42
Ryne
It's beaten the mean twice.
01:22:47
Cokeley Brothers
That's pretty good.
01:22:48
Cokeley Brothers
It's pretty good.
01:22:49
Ryne
He hasn't wrestled anyone crazy. He says, speaking to me twice.
01:22:53
Reese
beaten Garvin twice.
01:22:56
Ryne
Oh yeah, technically. Yes. Once officially another time.
01:23:01
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, the NWCA.
01:23:03
Ryne
Yep. All star has never lost to Julian Ramirez.
01:23:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I mean, that's a good one.
01:23:11
Cokeley Brothers
You're right.
01:23:11
Reese
Rune Lawrence is at heavyweight. I didn't realize he was at heavyweight.
01:23:15
Ryne
Just want to throw that out there.
01:23:17
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that was just a thought. You just threw shade for no reason. I don't understand why you do that. But julia julia Julian was ah so far outside of this conversation.
01:23:26
Cokeley Brothers
You're just like, never never, never, always gets his hand raised when he's wrestling the big red. I mean, you just never see a loss against those kinds of guys. You just, he always finds a way to win it.
01:23:33
Ryne
Especially in the blood round.
01:23:36
Cokeley Brothers
You're an asshole.
01:23:39
Ryne
I love Julian Ramirez and I think Julia Ramirez, I think Julia Ramirez is getting on the podium this year.
01:23:40
Cokeley Brothers
That's, that is, he said, especially in the but around.
01:23:45
Ryne
He, I'm picking him.
01:23:46
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, you make me want to go through his losses at NCAs now.
01:23:53
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, because Julian Ramirez has had dude to Caleb fish, his, his, the way I would look at his, not all of them, but some of his regular season performances versus his post-season performances.
01:23:56
Ryne
ah One year, one year he had a first round loss and that was it. Nope.
01:24:10
Cokeley Brothers
It is eerily reminiscent of Alex Maranelli.
01:24:17
Cokeley Brothers
It's not quite, not quite to the same caliber, but
01:24:20
Ryne
Yeah. Alex could get it done at the national tournament.
01:24:30
Ryne
He did. He would get on the podium. hi That's what I mean.
01:24:32
Reese
He got on the podium. He got spoiled doing it, but he got on the podium.
01:24:40
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, that was brutal.
01:24:44
Ryne
Not as it was, but not as bad as Brock
01:24:49
Cokeley Brothers
No, no, because Brock Hardy is ah so much more flexible.
01:24:51
Reese
It lasted way longer. It was, yeah, for...
01:24:56
Cokeley Brothers
It was just on national television with both of his legs by his ears.
01:24:58
Reese
And he's just like, oh, God.
01:25:00
Ryne
He's like, what am I
Predictions for Future Wrestling Matches and Tournaments
01:25:01
Ryne
going to do? What am I going to do?
01:25:02
Reese
He's like, did I just get pinned?
01:25:04
Ryne
I would have, I would have been like, all right, enough embarrassment.
01:25:06
Cokeley Brothers
Jesse, Jesse, let me get pinned.
01:25:10
Ryne
I would have looked over and i was like, I'm going to adjust my shoulder blades down so we can get out of this.
01:25:13
Cokeley Brothers
All right. All right. I'm going to I'm going to name you the three people that Julian Ramirez has lost to in the blood around one of them. We already know Peyton Hall and the other two. You know, you guess who are the other two?
01:25:29
Ryne
No, I don't think about this.
01:25:37
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, 2023 and 2022.
01:25:43
Cokeley Brothers
No. Yes. Yes.
01:25:45
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. 2022 20. No, 2023 was, was, was Shane Griffith. So 2022.
01:25:54
Cokeley Brothers
But he is still this is a guy who is still wrestling right now at his school or at like at the same school from the from back then and at a different weight class.
01:26:04
Ryne
Also, he's up to 74. It's not Dean Hamidi. Keegan O'Toole. You said O'Toole already, but he went that way. O'Toole's never been in the blood round, so I don't know why I said that.
01:26:18
Reese
Yeah, yeah, well yes freshman here yeah I got beat in the quarters Who is it ah
01:26:21
Ryne
I thought he got 2021.
01:26:21
Cokeley Brothers
Fluzzy? That was the semis. ah
01:26:25
Ryne
That was the quarters. Yeah. 2021.
01:26:27
Cokeley Brothers
ah Come on, guys. Come on.
01:26:32
Cokeley Brothers
Carson Hartslow.
01:26:35
Cokeley Brothers
4-3 in a ridiculous match. In a ridiculous match.
01:26:43
Cokeley Brothers
He's going to get on the podium this year. It's going to be great.
01:26:47
Cokeley Brothers
There is no other year. There has to be this year.
01:26:49
Ryne
It's going to be, you know what? I'm calling it. He's going to have himself a.
01:26:56
Ryne
Decomillo, he's going to he's going to do it.
01:26:58
Reese
You know what would, you know what would be, the you know what would be so like, you know, just egg on your face, Sammy?
01:27:06
Reese
If Sammy Sassa went back up to 165 and beat him in the blood round.
01:27:17
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, I think I would I think I would actually cry. I think that would I think I would be so overwhelmed by that.
01:27:22
Ryne
No, I'm calling it. I'm calling it right now. He's going to cam de de Camillo it.
01:27:32
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know what that means.
01:27:32
Reese
Cam is that was that his name or George you mean George?
01:27:35
Ryne
George, I say cam. I met George.
01:27:39
Reese
Smick finals is what you're saying, right?
01:27:43
Reese
What are you saying?
01:27:43
Cokeley Brothers
Virginia wrestler from back in 20, 2017.
01:27:47
Ryne
he He was so close, so close so many times to getting on the podium, never could get it done and then made the finals.
01:27:58
Cokeley Brothers
what What year did he, oh, D wrestle Dean Heil in 2017.
01:28:03
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Okay. Okay.
01:28:05
Ryne
I meant George. I said, I don't know why.
01:28:09
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Uh, I hope, I hope for that. I hope for that. Let's get back to the dual Ohio state Minnesota.
01:28:19
Ryne
No, I got to go eat dinner.
01:28:21
Cokeley Brothers
Come on quickly, quickly, quick.
01:28:21
Reese
Oh shut down Yeah, are there any other good weights max mechanization?
01:28:24
Cokeley Brothers
This is it. This is it, Ryan. This is it.
01:28:26
Ryne
Gable Steve's in by tech fall.
01:28:32
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Next.
01:28:33
Ryne
Is Flynn is Flynn back?
01:28:37
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, yeah, Flynn, Flynn, McCrone, Wells Buzak. I mean, all of these matches are good. Uh, Vaughn Barr, Mendez, D'Amelio Roberts, ASCII, Sasso, Sparks, Gallagher, Whiting, Hartschler, Rogotsky, McAnelly.
01:28:56
Reese
dude I don't know what to think there I'll probably give it to Ohio State because you know, they they just When was the last time Minnesota beat Ohio State?
01:29:04
Cokeley Brothers
This is,
01:29:08
Reese
I've been a while I've been a while So they won between now and Minnesota is what Ryan says
01:29:09
Cokeley Brothers
ah Since 2014, the record is 5-1 Ohio State.
01:29:15
Cokeley Brothers
They've won once in the last 10 years, 11 years. So that's going to be a great duel that's on tomorrow.
01:29:26
Cokeley Brothers
Closing I'm gonna I'm gonna say 6-4 Minnesota closing thoughts here Oklahoma State is set to break the third attendance record for an away duel They did it at Utah Valley.
01:29:27
Reese
73 Ohio state is what I say.
01:29:38
Cokeley Brothers
They did it at Northern Iowa and they're set to do it against Little Rock this weekend Well there I mean you gotta to follow the common you gotta follow the common denominator, right
01:29:41
Reese
Well, they're taking, they're taking the like credit for home crowds for opposing teams, home crowds.
01:29:53
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, my, I have a new, most anticipated match for the, on the senior level. I texted you guys about it.
01:29:58
Ryne
Although I, I don't give them any credit for the UNI one because it wouldn't matter if it was David Taylor or not.
01:29:58
Cokeley Brothers
I want to see.
01:30:05
Ryne
It's because the UNI crowd was because of how good UNI is.
01:30:10
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Okay. Sure. Um, I also think the Utah Valley turnout is in part due to the new head coach there, Adam Hall. So, a new most anticipated match for the senior level is Masumi versus Gable Steveson.
01:30:23
Cokeley Brothers
I really want to see it. I want to see somebody, I want to see such a clash of styles.
01:30:27
Reese
why over Why him over Zari?
01:30:29
Cokeley Brothers
Because I think Steveson smashes Zarya regardless. I just want to see, I watched, I watched, no, but it is a difference in styles that is so contrasting that I need to see what happens.
01:30:32
Reese
You think Masumi is better than Zari?
01:30:40
Cokeley Brothers
I need to see it. So.
01:30:42
Ryne
You say sorry and all I can think about is, is, uh, Petros really doing this to him. I just, that's all I can think about. Yeah, it was so cool. So cool.
01:30:53
Cokeley Brothers
No, it was great. It was great. And then, uh, yeah, I already told my prediction for the 2025 men's freestyle world team, Ryan, if you want to know what it is, you're going to have to watch the video.
01:31:03
Ryne
Is it Spencer Lee Dayton fix?
01:31:08
Reese
That's right, Danevix.
01:31:10
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Dayton fix. Definitely the person I would choose over my friend. Definitely.
01:31:13
Ryne
Oh, you know, I wasn't sure if Vito was healthy or not or go or if he was staying down at that weight class.
01:31:20
Cokeley Brothers
61 is fine for him.
01:31:24
Cokeley Brothers
All right, Spencer leave you to ruzot Jesse Mendez you need to come hollis.
01:31:26
Reese
know Oh, he was going to guess it.
01:31:28
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, okay.
01:31:28
Ryne
I wasn't going to guess it, I wasn't going to guess.
01:31:29
Cokeley Brothers
Keep keep going then keep keep going. Keep going
01:31:32
Ryne
All right. I was going to go Mendez. I was, I was going to go Jani Diakkima Hollis, 74, Kyle
01:31:47
Reese
I can't remember who he picked. Oh yeah, that was gross.
01:31:48
Cokeley Brothers
yep yep, yeah
01:31:54
Ryne
Zahid Valencia, 92, Aaron Brooks.
01:31:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Yes.
01:32:00
Ryne
97, Kyle Snyder, heavyweight Gable.
01:32:04
Cokeley Brothers
They did a pretty good job.
01:32:05
Cokeley Brothers
You bring it up. But you get I mean, you've got the second one wrong.
01:32:09
Reese
Disqualified for the second guess I Don't blame that logic
01:32:09
Cokeley Brothers
So, yep.
01:32:09
Ryne
well I was going to, I was going to say, I thought, I honestly thought Vito was going up. I'm not even lying to you. I thought Vito and Yanni were both going up. I was going Spencer Lee, Dayton. Yanni Diakma Hollis. And then, yeah and then yeah, that's where I was going to go.
01:32:24
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think Vito, I don't think Vito is going to be 65 kilos, but I could be wrong. You know what? I'll find out. We'll see.
Final Thoughts and Sign-off
01:32:31
Cokeley Brothers
So, um, but then Yani is going to eventually be 74.
01:32:32
Ryne
I think he will be eventually. Yes.
01:32:41
Reese
What what you think Vito will be 70 eventually is that what you said Why did okay?
01:32:42
Cokeley Brothers
Whoa. No, Yani 74.
01:32:49
Ryne
Here's what I'm banking on. Honestly, this is what I'm banking on. I'm banking on them putting in more weight classes for 2028.
01:32:57
Cokeley Brothers
We're just adjusting them a little bit. Let's move everybody up two kilos. Let's do a little lift and shift.
01:33:04
Ryne
I'd rather them, I'd rather them add weights than shift six weights. I'd rather them add at least two more.
01:33:12
Reese
Well, I would too, but would you wouldn't you like a shift?
01:33:12
Ryne
weight Well, if you're going to add two, I mean, if you're going to add two weight classes and not make it a full 10, then yeah, you probably have to shift, right?
01:33:13
Cokeley Brothers
I don't mind a shift.
01:33:22
Cokeley Brothers
Do a little shift.
01:33:24
Reese
Just shift in general.
01:33:24
Cokeley Brothers
Shift it.
01:33:26
Reese
Shift the bottom weight.
01:33:26
Cokeley Brothers
make a little shift, shift it.
01:33:30
Cokeley Brothers
You know, shift it down.
01:33:33
Cokeley Brothers
Shift it down.
01:33:34
Cokeley Brothers
I want 55 kilos.
01:33:35
Reese
What was I thinking?
01:33:37
Ryne
All right. I'm hungry. Peace out.
01:33:39
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
01:33:40
Cokeley Brothers
Thank you. Thank you for listening, everybody. I hope you have a good time and all that stuff.
01:33:43
Reese
what are you going to eat
01:33:45
Cokeley Brothers
Goodbye.
01:33:47
Cokeley Brothers
All right. Delicious.