Introduction and Christmas Greetings
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it Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house, not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse. 2025 is over. Great movies went and they came.
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But listen closely tonight for a new episode of Lost in the Frame. I'm your host, Malik. I'm your host, Alex. I'm your host, Achi. And Merry Christmas.
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Merry Christmas. That was nice. Thank you. Good job. I'm excited for our little Christmas episode.
Christmas Classics Discussion
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We're going to be talking A Year Without Santa Claus and Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. um We're going to take the beginning.
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Two classics. A Year Without Santa Claus, I actually, i don't think I've seen it. Same. It's it's a banger. I was watching it and I was like, I know a couple of the songs and like the Miser Brothers, but I don't think of ever like actually sat down and watched this in its entirety.
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Do you feel differently? But what? Just in general? Yeah. We'll see. I'll save it. ah so I'll save what I think. um We're going to take the beginning of this episode to talk ah not only movie news, but some
Oscar Shortlist and Nominations
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Oscar news. The Oscar shortlist just came out.
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So we wanted to talk about that for a little bit. But I'll kick us off with the first bit of movie news. This one i actually don't know. Live action Gaston. Is that the Beauty in the Beast guy? Yeah.
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Why? the The villain. I don't know. Who's playing him? Do we have a cast? Not yet. But that's it. Just a title announcement. Every week that we do this podcast, I feel like it's a new live action something.
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What's that happy about it. Live action cars? That was just Live action Mater movie. That's just Yeah.
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um Daisy Ridley says her solo Star Wars film will be worth the wait. Do you guys believe it? No. I didn't even know that that was happening. Apparently it is.
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It's got to be years away though. Daisy Ridley Star Wars film just a week away. Almost 28 days away. 30 from today. From 28 years later the Bone Temple. Fellas I'm stoked.
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I'm so stoked. The excitement bubbling. Yeah. i haven'tve seen I haven't seen the latest trailer, but I saw a um like a screenshot of of Ray Fiennes just looking like a I don't know what he looks like, but he looks insane. He's like bald, and he's got like this makeup on, and there's like fire in the background.
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He looks crazy. I'm so stoked for it. Me too. I hope it's good. If it's not, I'm going to... If we start off 2026 with a big disappointment like that, I'm going to... do Do I dare tell you what I've seen on Twitter about it?
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Like, people's reactions?
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Go ahead. They were all gassing it up. Really? Let's go. Yeah. Oh, man. And they did. I mean, they greenlit the third one. So clearly, like, whoever they did was in charge of it was like.
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This thing rips. Yeah, there's some steam. It's so hard to gauge, though, with like these exclusive, like with the premieres and the screenings. Like, I feel so many movies we hear get all this buzz.
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And then we finally watch it and it's like, oh. like There's just always buzz with the premieres, which I get. like If one day we get, or not if, when we get invited to the early screenings, I'm just going be stoked.
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We're probably gonna see the worst movie we've ever seen. going like, that was five stars. I'm just going to love everything. Yeah. Just from there. I don't know. I mean, we went and saw it together like fairly early, and we still didn't like it.
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Well, that's true. In fact, I think I was more critical of it because we were there early, and I knew everyone else was going to be like, this rips. Everyone was like that with together. That's why I was also excited to see it a little early.
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And guess what? It was fine. Well, I don't even think it was fine. I think that's stretching it. I won't say it. Was that stretching?
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What were you to say? I don't want to say it. Okay. It's not appropriate. All right. I think I know what you were where you were going. Yeah.
New Casting Category for Oscars
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All right. Let's get to the Oscar shortlist.
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Did you guys get a chance to take a look at it? I did. My favorite was I saw a lot of people complaining that Sinners was not shortlisted for Best Picture, but they didn't release the shortlist for Best Picture.
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Yeah. So they gave us casting, cinematography, documentary feature, documentary short, international feature, makeup, original score, original song, animated short film, live action short film, sound, and visual effects.
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How does the shortlist work? Are these like locked in nominations or potential? Like, how does the shortlist work? These are like i understand something out of that list is going to be, or like five out of that list are going to be nominated.
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Okay. Yes. When the nominations, I think the nominations come out towards the end of January, this list will be whittled down and then we'll see the other categories as well. Got it. But so far, these are the contenders.
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Okay. right. First one. So this is the first year that we actually get the brand new casting category for the Academy Awards, which is pretty cool. But here are the choices that are on the shortlist.
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Frankenstein, Hamnet, Marty Supreme, One Battle After Another, The Secret Agent, Sentimental Value, Sinners, Surat, Weapons, and Wicked for Good.
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I don't know what Surat is, but I'm intrigued. I don't either. I'm still not really sure what the criteria is for casting. Are we just looking at?
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I think it's me I genuinely think it's vibes. It feels like a vibes category, right? Yeah. No wake up dead man on here. And I feel like that's a cast heavy movie. Yeah, I mean, i think it was casted well, but i don't think they used the cast well.
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True. Agreed. 100% agreed. Who's your guys's pick from this? Probably one battle. Yeah, pre-Marty... Probably one battle.
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Primardi, also one battle. Here's the shortlist for cinematography. Ballad of a Small Player, Bugonia, Die My Love, F1, Frankenstein, Hamnet, Marty Supreme, Nouvelle Vogue, One Battle After Another, Sentimental Value, Sinners, Surat, Song Song Blue, Sound of Falling, Train Dreams, and Wicked for Good.
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I have not heard of Song Song Blue or Nouvelle Vogue.
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ah I believe Nouvelle Vogue is Linklater. The one about making ah Breathless, the movie. He has two movies this year that came out? Yeah.
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Wow. i still haven't seen anything about Blue Moon like coming out. I think Blue Moon got some nods for some other award shows. I watched it a couple weeks ago and I really liked it. Is
Cinematography and Original Score Shortlist
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it on stuff? like No, i had a I had to buy it on Amazon for like 20 bucks. Oh.
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Yeah. I love supporting the arts, but not in that way. not in the monetary way. um Who's your pick for here?
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I feel like since it's Chloe Zhao, I need to see Hamnet first before I decide. also want to see Train Dreams. I don't know how you felt about the cinematography there, but... I would personally say Train Dreams is my pick for it, just based on what I've seen.
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Train Dreams kind of ribbed. Yeah, I'm with Train Dreams, One Battle After Another. and I agree with you, Tachi. I also need to see Hamnet. Would like to see what that what that's looking like. um I gotta say, 28 Years Later is missing for me over here.
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It is missing. where Where is she? Yeah, was a beautiful movie. I don't know where she is and I miss her. um We don't have to do documentary.
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i don't think we've seen any of those. I've seen all of them. You've seen all the documentaries? No. Okay. I was about to say, I feel bad then. um Here's the international features.
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All of these i need to see. We have Baleen, The Secret Agent, It Was Just an Accident, Sound of Falling, Homebound, The President's Cake, Kokuho, All That's Left of You, Sentimental Value, Palestine 36, Noah the Choice, Surat, Late Shift, Left-Handed Girl, and The Voice of Hind Rajab.
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I'm stoked for Noah the Choice. We all know that. yeah I'm excited to watch It Was Just an Accident and Secret Agent and Sound of Falling. Those are my immediate on my watch list. Yeah, there are boy there there are only about five that I see in this list that have been kind of steamed up.
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So it'll be interesting. We'll see. Yeah. um Makeup and hairstyling. We have the Alto Knights, Frankenstein, Kakuho, Marty Supreme, Nuremberg, One Battle, Sinners, Smashing Machine, The Ugly Stepsister, and Wicked for Good.
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Who is that? Who is she? feel like it's got to be Sinners for that one. That's what I was thinking. You think? What would you say? Wicked?
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No. Can't be wicked. i don't want to say wicked with anything. We just lost thousands of listeners. We're deep in the negatives. I mean, yeah, I guess so.
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I guess so. Marty Supreme for for Timmy's ah unibrow.
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I learned something crazy. Speaking of casting and Marty Supreme. ah Odessa Azayan, the actress in that, is the daughter of the lady who voices Bobby Hill in King the Hill.
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Yeah. Isn't that nuts? I'm a little bit worried about being a slut. Yeah.
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And that spawn is going to be the love interest in Marty from what I can tell. Yeah. That's nuts. It's crazy, right? Hopefully she's a good nepo baby. um I've only seen her in the i Love l LA show on HBO and she's good in that.
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Is that the Rachel Sineau one? Yeah. I kind of like it. I feel like people hate her for some reason. I think we got too much Rachel Sineau. don't know. I just see like a lot of like discourse on Twitter. Like it just seems like people don't really like her that much.
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I got a hot take. What's your hot take? That's how I feel about IO. Oh, I'm sorry. This year is just every, every movie I saw her in, it just seems like not that interesting.
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And I think, she may only be very good at one thing and it's like just kind of who she is. i think she's a not a character actor, just a... She is on a generational run of bad picks. Yeah. From, what was it? Opus to After the Hunt and now Ella McKay.
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All of them have gotten bad reviews. She's in Ella McKay? Yeah. I had no idea. Okay, so that's three sneakers in a row then. Literally three stinkers in the year of our Lord 2025. That's unfortunate.
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Maybe it'll end next year. i hope i'll hold out I'll hold out hope for her because as a person, she seems nice. I like her. Yeah. Agreed. All right. Original score.
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Avatar Fire and Ash. Bugonia. Captain America Brave New World.
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They're just making stuff up. They didn't listen to no listen to no score. Diane Warren, Relentless, F1, Frankenstein, Hamnet, Hedda, A House of Dynamite, J. Kelly, Marty Supreme, Nuremberg, One Battle, Sinners, Surratt, Train Dreams, Tron Aries, Truth and Treason, Wake Up Dead Man, and Wicked for Good.
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I'm a little sad that Smashing Machine didn't get soundtrack shortlist.
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I thought it was a really great soundtrack. Especially Brave New World. Soundtrack or score? In defense of Captain America Brave New World, it may be the only good thing about it.
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I can't remember. I don't even remember it. Yeah. Maybe it's good. Um... I know we're very lukewarm on sinners, but I was just listening to this score the other day. And I still really like it. I like if they win this, I wouldn't be mad.
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I love the one battle after another score.
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haven't seen Tron Aries yet. Tron Aries' score is the entire time you're listening to it, you're like, this is not Daft Punk. Really? Genuinely, the like the entire movie, i was like, this would have been really good if this was not following up the single greatest moment in soundtrack history. I think that's what we were also scared of, too. like I think we were all excited for Nine Inch Nails, like they've done some good work, but following up That other soundtrack is be would be really hard.
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Like genuinely following the goat. Yeah. I think we all liked the F1 score. I'm not mistaken. Especially like the the opening scene. was going to say the F1 score is solid. But I'm pretty sure it's just getting nominated.
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For the title card needle drop.
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Which admittedly was absurd. It was really good. it would it it I will listen to it like. before I go for a motorcycle ride. And then as soon as it drops, like start the bike and then like go.
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That's so cool. um The begonia score is also really good. And I need to I need to watch begonia. Yeah, it's interesting hearing um The notes that, what's his name?
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forgetting the director's name. Gave to the composer Jerskin Fendrix. He didn't give him the script. And he didn't let him watch any of the scenes. He gave him five words.
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I think he gave him like B, Basement, Bald, and Emma Stone. And like something else. Like that's all he gave him was just five words. he's like create the score off this. You're not like seeing anything.
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And that's how they kind of made the score for Burgonia. I want to say, I think it was Old Boy. The soundtrack was just, or no, it was Akira. the Akira soundtrack, they're just like, we don't need to read the comic. We don't need to see it before. We're just going to make it. And it kind of rips. So maybe that's like a secret sauce. That's like something you could do.
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Give it a bit give it a little less direction, the better. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Um, original song. i don't want to read all these. Okay. It's going to be the one, it's going to be the one from sinners.
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Okay. Wait, which one, which one is it Let me see. the Whatever one was playing during that one scene. Okay, they also got like Golden. They got Golden from K-pop. Oh, let's go. and know Okay, maybe it's going to be one of those two. know I'm late, but I really like that song. Golden's great.
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And then I guess we'll see oh what Avatar sounds like. Yeah, that third item has a an Avatar song with Miley Cyrus. Yeah. That's interesting.
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Is she in Fire and Ash? I think it plays during the credits, if I'm not mistaken. So we got to stay five minutes longer than the three and a half hour movie to listen to it. unforgivable um Last couple ones here. Sound, Avatar, Fire, and Ash, F1, Frankenstein, Mission Impossible, One Battle, Sinners, Surat, Springsteen, Superman, Wicked for Good.
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Whatever happened to the Springsteen movie? I don't care. Did anyone go watch it? I don't think they did. I think it made $4. Maybe some NPCs watched it.
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And I love Bruce Springsteen, too. That was the funny. Like, I've said there were so many music biopics of, like, people I don't like. And then, like, Bruce Springsteen, when it comes out, and I love Bruce Springsteen, I have no interest. I think that says a lot about it.
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Because I don't care. for i don't Actually, I can't say I don't care. I just don't listen to Bruce Springsteen. But even then, like I'll watch a biopic for someone that I don't really know or have any interest to watch. And this one, I was just like, that that first trailer, I was just not in it.
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Music biopics peaked with ah Control about Joy Division's Ian Curtis. think it peaked with Yesterday. Yesterday.
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was yes Danny Boyle's masterpiece. The Beatles movie where the guy lives in a world without the Beatles. So he becomes them. um Hopefully it'll repeat with ah Michael. We'll see.
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I'm nervous for that one. What about the four Beatles biopics we're getting next year? Bro, I'm so fine. I'm okay. I really don't want to watch those. Are they all coming out the same day?
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Yes. That's so crazy. We need to like but would do them all in one day. Like we kind of have to. Like that's ah that's a crazy thing. Like I don't want to watch them, but four movies in a day.
Visual Effects Nominations
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all It's probably like four of the same movie too. It's just the different angles in the same room.
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Different POV shots. It's the Beatles. Yeah. That day's going to be a movie, though. It will. um Sound, I'm going Mission Impossible, guys.
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You're just saying that? i I am just saying that. Wait. Where's Warfare? Oh. Warfare should have been in this. Right? Warfare should have been nominated in this. I'm picking Warfare. Screw you, Academy.
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You suck. Oh, yeah. Good shout out. Why is that gone? Last one. Visual effects. Avatar. The Electric State.
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One day I'll watch it. F1. Frankenstein. Jurassic World of Rebirth.
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I do want to watch The Lost Bus. It does have my boy in it. Sinners, Superman, Tron Aries, Wicked for Good. Is The Lost Bus that new McConaughey movie where he's the bus driver?
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Yeah. He's like driving through flames for some reason. Yes, through like a wildfire. Okay. Wait, that sounds sick.
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All right, all right, all right. Kids, get away from the window. It's going to be, it's going to get warm. be bummed rad
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i mean avatar right i hope so yeah tron aries looked really good at points and there were other parts where it kind of looked like a mess or else i would say like when tron aries was at its peak vfx it was insane which was everything you saw in the trailer ah but it's still worth seeing on the least on the big screen but you guys missed out on that We did, so I'll have to watch it at the medium screen in my home. What about the little screen? iPhone.
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Yes. iPod Nano. Anything that was missing for you Any movies that are missing from the shortlist from you guys? like I wanted to see 28 years later. yeah Warfare 28 years later. um i don't know.
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I feel like i mean I would have liked to have seen Smashing Machine for score. It'll be interesting to see the acting noms. Yeah. And the writing. I hope we see the Phoenician scheme somewhere.
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I did enjoy that one. I don't think we will. Hmm. K-pop. Blue Moon. If Blue Moon gets any shout outs, that would be that'd be worthwhile. Oh, duh. War of the Worlds.
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What about East of Wall?
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Wait, can you talk about that? I guess I can. You just told us you watched it. I did tell y'all, but I didn't tell our dear listeners. If you remember a couple episodes back, and probably a couple episodes back, I mean like the summer, ah we're talking about the horse movie, East of Wall, and i was on a plane, and I did end up watching the horse movie on the plane. Yeah.
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um the uh i think that the horse movie can best be described as
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the best argument against poor people like we got to get rid of them help them.
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Is this hurt like this is your take? Or is this the theme of the movie? No, this is... I walked away from this. like Okay, so this movie is... um God, I'm getting cancelled. I can see it already. ah No, I don't think we should not help poor people. like I'm big on charity. the but the prep Anyway, but this movie somehow took the like rich asshole who's going to ruin our way of life and made him like not only in the right, but like factually correct and the only likable person on screen.
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He was the only person who was like, oh, he's a normal, well-adjusted individual. Hmm. And there was there was literally one scene where they're like, oh, we forgot to make him unlikable.
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So he's like mean to a horse. And then it's like oh. And then it immediately goes back to making this guy like sympathetic. But he's not supposed to be. He is not supposed to be. That's not the craziest thing. like I just watched a movie recently where I felt like I sympathized more with the quote-unquote villain. um It's a Wonderful Life.
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I just... I was Mr. Porter's to like But the problem was, this is like a movie that everybody, all of like the main characters all act themselves.
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like these are like It's big allegedly based off their real life. And I kept hearing about how this was like a woman or a woman-made film about badass women. And the badass main character throws a plate at her daughter's head because her daughter got lippy with her, which every child does.
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that's badass And I'm supposed to like like you and review and feel bad that you're broke. That's awesome. Like, no.
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It's like they just like the whole premise of it is this lady takes in like all these wayward kids for like because she wants them to feel loved or something, but she can't afford them.
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They live in a dump like the trailer is disgusting. Yeah. We probably need to remove this entire segment. Shitachi and I watch it.
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Is it worth our time or is it really like not? Like, is it so bad we need to see it or just completely skip it? um I would actually skip it because it's not. OK, the other thing is there's this like one song that they play throughout constantly. and It's like two chords. And that's like the whole soundtrack.
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That's so the only redeeming quality. Is it like you can see South Dakota, which is is kind of pretty. I actually don't think like for the worlds, waste your time. It's worth it.
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This, I would actually say, don't waste your time. The only reason I watch it was it was the shortest movie I could watch on a plane. Those are the worst types of movies. I'd rather it be so bad that it's a good time. Like war of the worlds. It's, I mean, if you went into it expecting it to be like, I'm about to watch an abusive woman be horrible to her kid.
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Maybe we really should remove this whole section. That's what the movie's about. it just simply asked what it was about. but but it's also like a real person too. Like this is like like they played themselves. They all like their names in the movie are their names in real life. And it's like loosely based off their life. Allegedly. All right. Just don't dox them here.
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They'll get doxxed if the listener watches the movie. we We won't bear that responsibility. Yeah, whatever you do, do not look up Tabitha Zemiga Portia Zemiga.
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Merry Christmas the East of Wall family. You guys suck. Santa's not coming to your house. I don't think we're going to get any gifts this year because of you.
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No, because we're deleting this segment. I'm probably not.
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All right. Let's get to Christmas. Wait, wait. I do want to point out two shortlist nubs real quick. Okay, go for it. I don't think Eddington was on any list. And also... Eddington was not so far. Predator Badlands was not in visual effects.
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thought that was interesting. I honestly, I would rather see Predator Badlands over like the Electric State and Jurassic World. Yeah, me too.
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Okay. but Anyways, that's all. All right, let's get to Christmas.
Favorite Christmas Movies
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To kick off our discussion, I have three questions for you guys. he What is your guys' favorite Christmas movie?
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Tachi? How the Grinch Stole Christmas with Jim Carrey. Oh, it's a tough one. think I think I'd go Charlie Brown Christmas. Mine is also How the Grinch Stole Christmas. It's just goat.
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It is. i think i think both you and I can quote that movie front to back. I can say every line right now. My thing is, i don't consider it a true Christmas movie.
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What? Unless the older the more times I watch it, the older I get, the more melancholy and depressing it becomes. Charlie Brown Christmas gets grim every year. like I feel terrible after watching it.
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you're like a You're like a melancholy melancholy Christmas guy. I guess. It's just relatable. Alright, what is in your opinions, the most overrated Christmas movie?
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Probably a Charlie Brown Christmas. Shut your ass up. Alright, hear me out. Elf. Oh, yeah.
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I think I need to rewatch it. i haven't watched it yet this year. I also haven't watched it. But i don't think it's crazy to say that. It is a little to me since I love it, but I can see why people don't like it.
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Do you think it insists upon it? It's not ah it's not that I don't like it. i just don't love it. Overrated does not equate hate. What about like a Christmas story?
Overrated Christmas Movies
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like a Christmas story. It's kind of a weird movie. I haven't seen that one this year either, but I do like A Christmas Story. Christmas Story is very much like moment in time, but I love it. The leg lamp.
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Honestly, yeah i had a hard time coming up with ah with an answer for this one. wait. I have my answer. 100%. Go ahead. The Polar Express. It's dog shit.
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It's one of the worst things I've ever seen. You know what? I'll go with the Polar Express too. Let's go. all right. What is your guys' favorite Christmas song?
Favorite Christmas Songs
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last christmas by wham oh that's exactly what i put i had so i had a tie had a tie between three of them the first one was last christmas by wham that's a perfect song by the way great song um and for my other two picks i realized i really like the i think i like the sad religious christmas music um i put silent night basically like any iteration it always makes me tear up and same with oh holy night I was going to say ah Holy Night or Auld Lang Syne, however you say it. That's a good one. like Which one?
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For Auld Lang Syne. The one that they sing at the end of ah but It's a Wonderful Life. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
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okay okay i got it got it we we hum different parts of the song at the same time but that was really good though i got it i understood nice what about you oh you just said it that was me okay what about you just said it oh
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last christmas and great song i gave you my heart Have you guys listened to Fruitcake by Sabrina Carpenter? It's really like good. No. Is that new?
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years ago. Is it a song or an insult?
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Here's the now i don't think I don't think any recent venture into making Christmas music has been good. Maybe in the last 15 years. I like Coldplay's Christmas Lights.
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um don't even think I've heard that. never that. It's a good song. I think Casey Musgrave's Christmas album was pretty good. But that's a lot there was a lot of like covers there. yeah There were some OGs. For original songs, like original Christmas songs, I think it's very few that are actually good in the last 15, 20 years.
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My exception to that rule is Mistletoe by Justin Bieber. That's a great song. My exception is ah Lights On by Tyler, the creator. good one Is that from The Grinch?
00:30:39
Speaker
yeah They were playing that soundtrack at ah in Hobby Lobby the other day. It was pretty good. I liked it. I don't know if it say was Hobby Lobby or Marshalls. One of those. There's a lot of like really good original Christmas songs in country music.
00:30:55
Speaker
I wouldn't know. My mind is closed off to that genre. so Completely. And it will never be open. I'm just kidding. there there are some kind I like some of the country songs.
00:31:09
Speaker
There are at least almost five that I like. There's a handful. I think you could show me a country song and there's there's at least a possible a possibility of me thinking it's okay.
00:31:22
Speaker
At the very least. Yeah, there's a very large, thick line between tolerable and actually enjoying. yeah i agree. Let's get to our our our mini movies today.
Review of 'A Year Without Santa Claus'
00:31:34
Speaker
Yep. Year Without Santa. Letterboxd. Love Like Loathe. Who's got the five? Alex? I do...
00:31:43
Speaker
This one comes from Spooky, with one of the O's capitalized. Spooky, looky video, ghost emoji. think it's a T. No, it's a video cassette and then a pumpkin emoji.
00:31:56
Speaker
And they said at one point, Heatmiser calls Snowmiser tutti frutti as if he isn't equally tutti frutti. Five stars. Got the three star review by Hal.
00:32:11
Speaker
One of the funniest parts of me will always be the parents and Santa ganging up on Ignatius by singing a song about how you should just blindly believe in Santa Claus to the point that the kid starts crying. Based. You didn't read the three star that I gave you.
00:32:24
Speaker
That long one? That kitchen scene? That kitchen scene was, I think, the first one I wanted to talk about after this one star. That one was crazy. Okay, I've got, like, three of them here, but they're all, like, four words. All right, first one comes from edrev34, one star.
00:32:41
Speaker
Couple bangers surrounded by a snooze fest. Second it one, by Carter. How to turn this off. Creepy and boring. I'm scared. I'm Third one, Meg, Siri, play iMrSnowMizer slash iMrHeatMizer, based.
00:32:55
Speaker
um Let's do one one one more.
00:33:00
Speaker
Nightmare Fuel by Emma. Thanks, Emma. I don't know if we said this at the beginning of this episode or before we started recording. Yeah, I don't think I had ever seen this in its entirety before.
00:33:12
Speaker
I've seen this probably 20 times. um Wow. What about you, Hitachi? You said you also hadn't seen it? I had not. I have seen our second feature, Rudolph, but not this one.
00:33:26
Speaker
I'm going to be honest.
00:33:29
Speaker
I didn't like this. What? i did not enjoy it.
00:33:37
Speaker
i like, I agree with one of the one reviews that I read, couple bangers, and then it's a snooze fest. Snowmiser, Heatmiser songs.
00:33:47
Speaker
And it's just the Snowmiser song. I wish the Heatmiser song was different. He needs his own gi his own jingle. He just copied Snowmiser's drip. He did. And it was worse. He should be ashamed.
00:33:58
Speaker
He should. I'm actually sick to my stomach right now. yeah This movie rips. Okay, tell me tell me what you like about it Dude, it's just, it it's good. Like, it looks ridiculous.
00:34:12
Speaker
The story's absurd. But it's just, it's got the sauce. Okay, we're we're breaking that one out. It's got the sauce. This movie's full of sauce. I wish it was like I knew like it does look weird. It is creepy.
00:34:25
Speaker
It's a crazy story. Those are all ingredients for having the sauce, but it just was so bland to me with the, when it had the most sauce snow miser was like the only one who showed up to work and like put on a show.
00:34:39
Speaker
As soon as he came, as soon as he was done singing his song and he gave his whole spiel about who he is. i was in it. I was like, I'm with this guy. I'll follow him into battle. The rest of it.
00:34:55
Speaker
Why? i don't know. and just Is it because you watched it and you're an unk?
00:35:02
Speaker
Shopped and washed as of yesterday. It might just be because there's not a nostalgic or emotional connection to this specific movie.
00:35:17
Speaker
yeah I don't know how likely it is for someone to watch this for the first time in the year of our Lord, 2025, and be like, that was good, and I'm going to watch it again soon. Because it's not me. I think I have to agree with you.
00:35:34
Speaker
To me, there are just very few redeeming qualities and a story that just didn't grip me like I wanted it to. I wasn't gripped. You gotta get gripped.
00:35:45
Speaker
You gotta to get gripped. you're not getting gripped, then what are you done Exactly. i do want to talk about the kitchen scene. That felt... um Very scary for that child.
00:35:57
Speaker
that's it It didn't like. He needs to believe in Santa. You guys are so Santa phobic. We're not. I'm just concerned for his well-being, really. Yeah, dude. I'm a big Santa guy. All right.
00:36:11
Speaker
Love the dude. Santa deniers. I know. A lot of you. I believe in him. But the way they went, they the way they approached this to this child in the kitchen. He shows up. Mr. Klaus.
00:36:23
Speaker
Hey, dude, get a better name. Get a better disguise. And they just sit him down and they go listen. And they just sing at him.
00:36:33
Speaker
The dad came in at the end. I believe in Santa Claus. Yeah, that's like that's nightmare fuel for that child. It really was.
00:36:47
Speaker
he's He won't ever be the same. Yeah, it's because of the song, not because he went and met the heat in Snowmizer. Yeah.
00:36:55
Speaker
Probably and mother nature. So for the song that they sing in the kitchen, Santa has this part where he's like, you know, like I used to not believe. And then like I saw him.
00:37:08
Speaker
He's talking as the kid. Did he actually show up later that day or night in the kids room in that vision we saw? to make the kid believe or that was the dad that was the dad it looked just like the kid yeah because it was his dad was the dad singing at that point yeah oh okay they the voices they were the exact same to me i didn't know that there was a difference so i thought it was the boy was like oh is this later on in the day and he's like yeah i'll show you who's real and who's not i'm coming
00:37:41
Speaker
So I thought that was really creepy. So i mean that clears it up a little bit. for It's still not great. They're going to make him believe. Yeah.
Belief in Santa Claus
00:37:51
Speaker
And they did. the dad The dad is passing on this generational trauma to his young boy. It's like hereditary. With the abuser in the room with him.
00:38:04
Speaker
This is Santa hereditary. This is what it is. Literally. Alex, how are you feeling about our feedback so far? thank Y'all are bums.
00:38:16
Speaker
oh I like Jingle Jangle. Jingle Jangle. Yeah. Jingle Bells. think Jingle is a little ah out there.
00:38:30
Speaker
Is that the skinnier one? I think so. He needs help. He does need help. A lot of these characters did. sure there was a I'll say there was one highway.
00:38:42
Speaker
At least for me and in my watching the movie. There's a particular line where think it's Santa. He says, They must be scared to death. And then one of Jingle or Jangle goes, like that the scene cuts, and then you you see Jingle and Jangle.
00:38:59
Speaker
They're out there at the start of their journey. And they say, I'm scared to death. And I just know the writers were just like rubbing their hands together like, yeah, that was that was a sick transition.
00:39:10
Speaker
Like they were cooking with gas. Like it's called a match cut. They're going to think it's hilarious. I like when they hang out with the mayor. I wish mayors in real life were like wacky goofy.
00:39:24
Speaker
Yeah. I grew up thinking mayors were like always going to be a problem. Yeah. Honestly, same. I thought they were, it was either like one or the other. I thought they were going problem or I thought they were going to be like a friend that's always at the barbecue.
00:39:36
Speaker
He's kind of a little stupid, but he's funny. Who was the guy before ah the mayor we have now? me see. Because that guy was a problem.
00:39:48
Speaker
I can't remember. and know the mayor of New York was a problem for a while. The mayor of New York was a problem. Eric Adams. And the mayor before that was also a problem. New York's had a lot of problems at mayors.
00:40:04
Speaker
What else did I like?
00:40:08
Speaker
Santa get a grip.
00:40:13
Speaker
Lock in. Get off your ass. I have a cold and I'm not going to give presents to the children. One day year. back is achy. One day a year. yet Literally.
00:40:25
Speaker
What does he do the other 364 days? Dude, he has to mentally prepare for that one day. It's just rotting in bed. just oh Do know how many billions of kids there are now? Do you know many presents? Back in the day, it was just like, oh Santa, may I please have a pair of socks? It's like, oh yeah, I can get that. and like goes now I want an Xbox, want a PlayStation.
Comparing Christmas Classics
00:40:50
Speaker
Santa, six seven Santa. I want a Bitcoin. He's got the elves buying NVIDIA chips so they can mine Bitcoin. They're Bitcoin.
00:41:01
Speaker
I got Bitcoin mines in the North Pole. The North Pole is melting because you said it had to build a data center.
00:41:12
Speaker
Oh my God. Tachi, what else did you like? I can't think of anything. ah I mean, stop motion's hard. I've made one like in high school.
00:41:22
Speaker
takes a lot of effort. It does. Yeah. I have the link. um I can share it with you guys later. Oh, please do. Like my Facebook. I don't know.
00:41:33
Speaker
I'll find it. I think the one that I made is... I made it when I was like 11, but it's I think it's on my grandma's computer. It's like five seconds. Like I thought it was so much It's literally just like a ball with a face rolling.
00:41:45
Speaker
And I was like, this going cool. And then him splattering on the floor took me all day. And it was six seconds. It's like the parking wreck. Yeah. Did you say six seconds? It was like six or seven seconds. I'm not sure.
00:42:01
Speaker
Yeah. Please send that. I'd love to see Of course. um Yeah. Shout out stop motion. ah
00:42:11
Speaker
Oh, actually there was one scene. I think it was this one. I don't think it was Rudolph, but there was one shot where it looked kind of cinematic. It was nice.
00:42:21
Speaker
They were watching, I forgot who, but they were watching Santa like fly away. At the very end? No, it was like the beginning or something or the the middle, but there were some people standing outside of a house and There was like a blurred foreground, a focused in background. I don't know. It was kind of cool.
00:42:41
Speaker
Huh? There was like one shot that stood out to me. But outside of that, at least there's that. Yeah. I love seeing all the little strings in the first miser interaction, the little black strings in the background.
00:42:55
Speaker
I'm sure it took a lot of effort. Mm hmm. Very impressive stuff. guys just don't respect the craft. We're literally respecting the craft right now. We're saying, hey, the stop motion's great. They did a great job. These are the backbones of Christmas movies. You're trying to tell me Elf is not overrated.
00:43:15
Speaker
You know I'm right. You know these are the backbone. These these are the fundamentals. This is theory. this Everybody wants to read theory until it's time to read theory. Yeah. Well, we read theory and we understand it. and Now we can go out and make a better Christmas movie.
00:43:29
Speaker
Can you? Look, I'm just saying it's this one. It's just this one. The Misers are great. Give me a movie with the Misers. I would have loved that. Maybe I feel differently about Rudolph. I don't know.
00:43:41
Speaker
i don't know. We'll find out soon, though.
00:43:47
Speaker
Alex, what do you want to shout out from a Year Without Santa? Do you believe? I do believe in Santa Claus.
00:43:55
Speaker
How old were you guys when you realized Santa Claus wasn't real? That he wasn't coming home? it was the fourth grade. i actually remember it. like Yeah, it was the fourth grade. i remember coming home and I told my mom, i like my best friend Antonio told me Santa's not real.
00:44:10
Speaker
That's a load of baloney. And my mom's like, he's right.
00:44:16
Speaker
Wow. Just pulled the rug out. Right then and there. Tachi, how old were you? don't know. I don't know. That's all.
00:44:27
Speaker
I think I, I had a way in between like first and third grade somewhere. Yeah. I was thinking like third, fourth grade. Yeah. What gave it away was like, we, we used to do the whole milk and cookies thing. Right.
00:44:38
Speaker
Sure. I'm like that fat bitch is getting some milk and cookies. He's doing so much for the world. I'm going to make him some chips. Oh, wait, some leave him out, some chips, a horn, some milk. He ate them, drank some of the milk and then left a letter on the napkin.
00:44:52
Speaker
And I looked at it the next morning and i said, this is my mom's handwriting.
00:44:59
Speaker
And I put it down and I just continued on with my day and I think, I think I was already skeptical. i was like, all right. I think the milk and cookies was a test. I was like, I don't know if you're real or not. I'm gonna leave this out for you and we're gonna see, all right? We're gonna see how tonight goes.
00:45:14
Speaker
That's how it went. She should have written with her left hand. It would have been better. Yeah. I'm pretty sure the last time I went to Trail Lights, I said the word Santa wasn't real, and I looked over, and there was like a group of kids not that far away.
00:45:28
Speaker
It was like relevant to the conversation, whatever was happening, and I looked over. i was like, whoops. You ruined some kids' lives. Your face is like implanted in their memory forever.
00:45:41
Speaker
God. At least I'm handsome. um I don't know how to rate this. I don't think I will. I think I'll just say that I watched it. This is a four stars. Okay. I'm happy for you.
00:45:56
Speaker
I'll rate it. I'll give it a I'll give it two and a half for effort. All right, fine. I'll give it a two and a half too. I'll copy you. I'll also give it a two and a half.
00:46:08
Speaker
A year without Santa Claus. Yes, please. um Rudolph.
00:46:15
Speaker
Certified Santa hater.
00:46:19
Speaker
Let's move on to Rudolph. Yeah. That weird bitch.
00:46:25
Speaker
It's a weird movie. It is. It's a weird freaking movie. I forgot how weird it is. Specifically like our dentist boy, but we'll we'll get into it. we'll get there. We'll get there. The 60s and 70s were insane.
00:46:43
Speaker
All right. Give us our five star. Oh, Our five-star review for Rudolph comes from Tasha. Why do they all make fun of Rudolph but not Fireball, who has blonde hair for some reason?
00:46:59
Speaker
I never noticed that. I'm like, he has frosted tips. I noticed that when him and Rudolph were like, yo, she thinks I'm cute. And then they started butting heads together. i was like yo, that one's got hair.
00:47:10
Speaker
well Got those frosted the snowman tips. Give me like teenage Simba vibes.
00:47:21
Speaker
That's an attractive reindeer.
Analysis of 'Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer'
00:47:30
Speaker
Okay. My three star comes in from Jackson spelled with an X. Oh, you want to be a dentist? Name every tooth. All
00:47:47
Speaker
right. Our two star comes from someone very local to this podcast, user T shuttles. Two stars. Review from 2023. Honestly, i would have bullied that stupid kid for wanting to be a den a dentist too. What an idiot.
00:48:10
Speaker
Alex sent your review in the chat. I haven't watched Rudolph in years. I forgot about this dentist part. I was like, what dentist? And then he came up and I was like, holy shit.
00:48:21
Speaker
It's like a core part of the whole movie. The minute he started talking, i was like, who is that? And what is that voice name? Hermie Hermes Get real.
00:48:35
Speaker
Yeah, I wrote down the voice of Herbie made me laugh out loud. And then I put all caps dentist. That's when it made sense to me. um
00:48:51
Speaker
Why weren't you at elf practice? I was doing surgery and on these dolls.
00:48:59
Speaker
That teacher was such a dick, too. He lost his dreams. um Do they not have health insurance at the North Pole? They do not have elf insurance, no.
00:49:10
Speaker
Are these movies all in the same Christmas cinematic universe? There's a lot of continuity errors. They have to be, yeah. the Yeah, the first continuity error is Santa. Who is that? Who was that?
00:49:23
Speaker
Not my Santa. Dude, who is Mrs. Claus? Why was she German? You will eat until you are filling the suit, Santa. I didn't like that. She just kept calling him Papa.
00:49:36
Speaker
Eat, Papa, eat. Eat, Papa. Yes. You're a skinny-ass Santa. I don't know who that guy was. Did not like him. He got really fat by the end. Rudolph was gone for like a week.
00:49:53
Speaker
I like Frosty the Snowman. Really cool animation for him. The way they did it. The stop motion and the snow, the way it moved. Really smooth. and thought that was awesome.
00:50:04
Speaker
Good old Burl Ives. The only guy who can sing Holly Jolly Christmas in my opinion. What about me? Go. I'm a What else you guys like?
00:50:21
Speaker
so I like the Bumble. and I like Yukon Cornelius. Yeah, that's was going to shout out. strapped the whole movie. He strapped. Yeah. i don't know what his deal is, but I like him.
00:50:32
Speaker
I love whatever's wrong with him. Same.
00:50:36
Speaker
What do they call them The Bumble? Yeah, the Bumble. um Bumbles bounce. I don't like that everyone is mean to Rudolph. I know that's integral to the story, but seeing it play out hurt me.
00:50:50
Speaker
This is a very homophobic and racist movie. Yeah. I think it's more ableist than anything. It's all of them. It's just if you're different, you're bad.
00:51:01
Speaker
I did like that it was Hermeist because fuck that dentist.
00:51:08
Speaker
What did he? Oh, how does that? I forgot how the song went, but the way he was pronouncing nitwit in whatever song that him and Rudolph were singing together pissed me off. I remember.
00:51:19
Speaker
right And he just kept saying it when they were both like thinking about being independent together.
00:51:26
Speaker
I hate Herbie. Me too. He's the worst. He's the worst part of this movie. There is a scene. i don't know why they kept it in like this, but it's when he gets yelled at by his his teacher or his boss or whoever that angry elf is.
00:51:40
Speaker
And he immediately, Hermie immediately just gets into a window and leaves. And then the scene cuts. That's right. is and I'll show them. I'm going to go be a dentist.
00:51:53
Speaker
What is he going to go do? I don't know. give no and the attention surgery and at the very end they're just like oh yeah yeah you could be a dentist i'll start i'll start in a week he's gonna fuck up his boss that's his first appointment he's gonna mess him up bad all you're gonna put in one of those palate expanders and just keep cranking it like till it's like this why it's like stewie griffin He just like violated animal rights laws and just ripped the teeth out of that Yeti.
00:52:28
Speaker
Yeah. That's all he did. Kind of crazy. And i don't think you could I don't think he gave his like permission to do that. I'm going to work on that. When I was a little kid, that first scene with the Bumble was pretty terrifying.
00:52:42
Speaker
With him coming over the mountain. yo Yeah. Yeah. Looks cool, though. Yeah, it did look cool. It's an interesting like set. It's it very fantastical, like not very realistic. I liked it a lot.
00:52:56
Speaker
I remember him talking, the the the Bimble man. He doesn't talk talk? You can't speak Bumble? No, I can't speak Bumble.
00:53:06
Speaker
What are you doing? I love how they gave him a job at the end that was completed in 0.3 seconds. They're like, yo, i he he can live with us now. And he wants to work.
00:53:18
Speaker
He's got a job. And then he does it and I'm like, so he's done then. He's until next year. Another 10 billion to the pump.
00:53:32
Speaker
What's he going to do when he's bored? Well, he has to take it down, too. Oh, he does have to take it down. He will kill again in between jobs. I hope so. And I hope it's Hermie. I hope it's Hermie.
00:53:46
Speaker
He's going to kill the next deformed reindeer. the The scene of Rudolph's nose cover coming off and him actually getting kicked out of the reindeer games is so mean.
00:54:00
Speaker
And like, it shouldn't be funny. It's not funny. But the they switch up on him so quickly.
00:54:29
Speaker
Oh my God. Dude was just on top of the world. A girl just called him cute. And he flies. Everyone's like, oh my God, he did so good. He's winning.
00:54:39
Speaker
He's got the riz. He can fly. he's He's the best of us. they were real happens is a joke that i want to make i don't think i'm brave enough to make it be brave alex be brave please
00:55:02
Speaker
but so we'll we'll come back to you It's like a like school sports day. Your buddy wins this competition for you and he sneezes. Then you realize he has down syndrome. It's not true.
00:55:23
Speaker
That's what happened Rudolph
00:55:28
Speaker
literally that Literally that They banished him And then as he's leaving the coach is like Hey everyone he's not allowed In these reindeer games anymore right Right kids Yeah Fuck that guy And until this Capitalist Society needs him Then they accept him
00:55:55
Speaker
They don't learn anything.
00:55:58
Speaker
They learn nothing.
00:56:05
Speaker
Todd, you do hate anything else other than the boy.
00:56:11
Speaker
I don't know that I hate anything else, but I do want to call out one more quote from Hermie.
00:56:19
Speaker
He's on the the ice. the The piece of ice with Yukon. They just escaped the Yeti. Or the Bumble. Whatever. And ah it starts getting misty. And Yukon says, this mist is as thick as peanut butter.
00:56:38
Speaker
And Hermie says, you mean pea soup? No, you idiot. Don't pea soup. the hell is wrong with you something is really wrong with that kid is that a man i i think hermy would have noticed if he uh if he had gone to elf practice i think elf practice probably had a lot of uh like social cues ah just that he didn't pick up on yeah how old is he is this a boy or a man do they age
00:57:13
Speaker
I don't know. I think they age, but. There's a lot of rules and laws being broken in the world to know more about this world. Yeah, I need any questions. i I have a lot of questions.
00:57:26
Speaker
um All in all, I like Rudolph a lot more than a year without Santa. I like that he gets to go back to the reindeer games that he gets to lead the reindeer with his.
00:57:40
Speaker
Bright ass nose. That's pretty cool. but i do that I actually just don't even care about the whole Rudolph storyline. I just care about Yukon and Hermie. Really? i don't really remember anything about Rudolph. i We need to make a gritty Yukon biopic.
00:57:57
Speaker
It's the beginning of The Empire Strikes Back.
00:58:01
Speaker
that would Actually, that would rip like an R-rated Yukon Cornelius movie. With a cameo by Rudolph at the very end. Just a dark room. The way ah Darth Vader's lightsaber lights up the room in Rogue One.
00:58:19
Speaker
But it's Rudolph's nose. Does it make the noise? and like the noise it makes. Why did it make noise? I don't know. But I like it. I think it's a good noise.
00:58:33
Speaker
Do you think Rudolph's mom cheated on his dad with a reindeer with a red nose? I think so. And he knew who it was? Oh my gosh. Yeah, we don't really hear from the mom a lot.
00:58:46
Speaker
But the dad is just angry. Probably because it's not his kid. And he knows it's not his kid. Like, he hates him. But more than anything, he hates himself.
00:58:57
Speaker
Damn. oh Whose kid would it be? We need more answers. We need sequel. Ronald the Red Nosed Reindeer. Yeah. I'm down for a sequel.
00:59:14
Speaker
What else do guys want to shout out from this? I can i can rate this one.
00:59:19
Speaker
After seeing this and um You Without Santa Claus back to back, I think ought to flip my scores or my perception of these movies.
00:59:31
Speaker
I think Rudolph was a little more fun and wacky compared to ah You Without Santa Claus. Yeah. Despite You Without Santa Claus having like a fun soundtrack and, you know, more interesting musical numbers.
00:59:46
Speaker
Rudolph just hit it right to- tonight or today. I'm going to give this one a three and a half out of five because it's worse than a year without a Santa Claus. You guys just don't understand what it was like to be alive in the 70s.
00:59:59
Speaker
Do you? I don't. I wasn't alive in the 70s, but I know what it feels like to be alive in the 70s. And it feels like that movie. Like year without a Santa Claus. Yeah. I'm glad I was born when I was then.
01:00:12
Speaker
i don't want that. You missed out. You did too. No, I didn't because I i have the the vision. I'm an empath.
01:00:25
Speaker
I could feel the drugs they did while watching Year Without a Santa Claus. They were really strong. I give Rudolph i give a rudol of four. Wow.
01:00:36
Speaker
A four? Yeah. He gave Year Without a Santa Claus a four. yeah For some reason. Interesting. Because it's good. is Rudolph. you can I mean, at the end of the day, you can't make venison out of anyone in Year Without a Santa Claus, but you can make venison out of a lot of people in Rudolph.
01:01:01
Speaker
do you want to eat these reindeer? yeah No, I'm just saying, you know, when when comparing which movie is better, you know? Who can I... who
01:01:13
Speaker
Which movie will give me the most dinner?
01:01:18
Speaker
bet Rudolph tastes good. Benison does taste good. No, Rudolph specifically. Oh. God, Rudolph brisket would go for like $1,000 a pound at Terry Black's.
01:01:33
Speaker
No, I'll have the reindeer brisket. You want the the the Rudolph or the regular? give me Give me the Rudolph. It's a special occasion.
01:01:45
Speaker
I've decided I'll go with three star Rudolph because this was my first, I think, successful hate watch.
Conclusion and Christmas Trivia
01:01:52
Speaker
I've never hate watched anything before, but i hate watched Hermie. So that was kind of fun.
01:01:58
Speaker
Okay. So three star up they start Rudolph, two star, you're without Santa Claus. I like it. There we go. Merry Christmas. Those are our stop motion. hated this episode.
01:02:12
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I laughed a lot. Might be our most giggly. It was a pretty giggly episode. um Let's end it with this trivia. What you got for us, Tachi? Oh, yeah.
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Forgot about that. ah So this is going to be... Not really trivia, but there are a list of movies, Christmas movies, and I'm going to give you a riddle and you're going to guess which riddle applies to which movie. So here are the movies.
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Rudolph, You're Without Santa, Elf, The Polar Express, The Grinch, Home Alone, It's a Wonderful Life.
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and So first clue is, our first riddle,
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Oh, this one's pretty vague.
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No, it might be too vague. Okay, so how about the... no, no give us the first one. Just hit us with it. All right, right, all right. A presence foreign stirs what sleeps. Silent currents ripple deep.
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I don't think you'll get it. Elf.
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Oh, and told me the answers. The Grinch. The correct answer is Elf. Oh, I'm so good. I am so good. That was really impressive, actually. Okay.
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Okay. Next one is... A frozen state yields under soft insistence. Change emerges without loud resistance.
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I forgot what the options were. I feel like that could be Grinch.
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That is correct. Let's go... are we Are we keeping score? No. Okay. Wait, what are the other options? Let me let me write them down because I'm forgetting.
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The remaining movies are Rudolph, Year Without Santa, we just did Elf and The Grinch, so The Polar Express, Home Alone, and It's a Wonderful Life.
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Polar Express. So five more. Okay, got it. Okay. This one's pretty, yeah, whatever. Solitude births cunning through unseen schemes.
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Disorder folds where foresight gleams.
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Say it again. Solitude births cunning through unseen schemes. Disorder folds where foresight gleams. Oh, Home Alone?
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Yeah, there's gotta to be Home Alone. You're both correct. Yes. I got it first. Okay, next one.
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A journey bends both space and mind. Belief alone unlocks what's confined.
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It could be Polar Express or youre Without Santa, but Polar Express is the better fit. I'm going to It's a Wonderful Life. The correct answer is the Polar Express.
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God damn it. when are we do When are we doing a trivia night? i don't know. Seems like Alex might be pretty good. Yeah. Alright, next one.
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A lone spark moves where darkness reigns. Its glow unseen, yet its path sustains. Rudolph.
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That could be It's a Wonderful Life.
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You ready for the answer? Yeah. No. Yeah. Lock it in. Can you repeat it? A lone spark moves where darkness reigns. Its glow unseen, yet its path sustains.
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It's a wonderful life. The correct answer is Rudolph. Let's go. Stupid. All right. Next one.
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I'm still winning.
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That literally could work for It's a Wonderful Life, though. It could. but But it didn't. Here's the next one. Absence reveals the shape of things. Unlived paths illuminate hidden wings. All right. That's a wonderful. that's a wonderful Yeah. Yeah.
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Okay. Last one. Two extremes contend yet neither wins from their clash. A hidden warmth begins. You're without Santa. Yep. There we go.
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The only hidden warmth is that the movie ended.
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You don't know both. I'm sorry, man If they can remake this with just the Miser brothers, I'm in, okay? Well, we did it.
01:06:58
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We did it. You literally, like, The the Last Jedi. Stop bringing it up. You're going to make me hate that movie just so that way it never gets brought up again. Good. That's my point. That's my plan.
01:07:10
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um Merry Christmas, guys. Merry Christmas. Happy holidays. It's been an interesting year. Merry Christmas. It has been an interesting year, and we look forward to 2026, and we've got one more episode in 2025.
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Our Christmas gift to you. Yeah. Body Supreme Christmas Day. marty so play anything else for you guys i'm ready to get marty i'm ready to get marty i'm ready to just think that's bad the next time you will hear our voices marty supreme will be we will have seen marty supreme imagine it's terrible don't even joke like that no it'll be it we're going as a family we are My dad is breaking a movie, not going to the movie theater streak. Oh, I didn't even realize how big of a deal that is for you. Yeah, because my mom wants to go to the movie theater as a family. So we're going to see Marty Supreme.
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Wow. It has to be good. I can't. This can't ruin movie theaters forever for your dad. Because if this isn't good, your dad will never step foot in the theater again. Well, his last one was Rush and Rush was pretty good.
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Oh, and Rush is good. Rush is great. So...
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I guess we'll find out. I guess we'll find out. ready. All right. I'm also ready. Cool. Well, if you're listening to this, it's a couple days before Christmas, so have Merry Christmas and happy holidays.
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Safe travels wherever you are. We'll see you from Marty Supreme soon the next year. Bye. Bye.