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We played a little catch up this week to see what was up with the newest Glen Powell movie then see what Sam Raimi's island has going on. Let us know what you thought of these movies!
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Introduction and March Excitement
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New month, same boys. Welcome back to Lost in the Frame. I'm your host, Malik. I'm your host, Tachi. I'm your host Alex and it is officially March January and February are behind us and I think we've got a good month coming up I'm excited for the Oscars and I'm excited for Project Hail Mary same but we're gonna look back at a couple movies today that came out in February sent help and how to make a killing before we get into those movies how are you guys doing I got cedar fever yeah
00:00:48
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Do you actually have cedar fever? Yeah. Is this the time when the cedar trees are are blossoming? Yeah. the first When I first moved to Austin, I never had allergies before. And then that first season of like cedar fever, I was just sneezing and coughing. i was like, what is happening to me?
00:01:05
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um really so i don't really sneeze. It's just in my throat. gets so scratchy. It's always the throat with you. It always is.
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um Let's get into some movie news before we get talking about these movies.
Resurgence of Physical Media
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First one I had up. This was great news. This was an article from the Los Angeles Times saying that Gen Z is reviving DVDs and Blu-rays with local video rental shops reporting record months and membership numbers as young people embrace physical media.
00:01:35
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That's my gen putting it down. I'm like, you unks. Are you Gen z Yeah, I think. what's your You were born in 90... 98. 98. ninety eight Would you not be a millennial?
00:01:48
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No, I think I'm like old je like ziennial upper it's yeah, there's there's like a crossover section where I think like I've seen both. but I think I'm Gen Z technically.
00:02:00
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I mean, you give me millennial vibes, though. o In a not negative in a not negative way. You're amongst friends. You're amongst two other millennials.
00:02:12
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Chopped, washed millennials. please don't be Quirk Chunkuses.
00:02:20
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I would never. um Sony is officially rebooting the Spider-Man spin-off universe. Why? it didn't take off the first time. I mean, who wouldn't want to see a remake of Morbius?
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what Yeah, what if they just remake the same slate of movies in the exact order, just with different people playing them? Same actors. Yeah, same actors.
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Morbius, directed by Taika Waititi. That would do numbers. It's just like literally the Morbentime memes. Would there be any a Spider-Man spinoff movie that you'd want to see remade that you think they could actually get right? Or do you think they just need to let this
Sony's Spider-Man Universe Revamp
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die?
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I mean, it would probably be like Venom and Carnage, right? With Carnage actually being like a serial killer. Being like a real threat. Yeah. I like the Venom movies. I never saw them.
00:03:14
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I haven't seen the the one that the latest one. I did not get a chance to see that one, but I enjoyed the first one. I think the only Sony spinoff universe movie I've seen is Madam Web.
00:03:26
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Now that i think about it. Madam Web was insane. Yeah. woo It's hard to believe that got released. Wait, I just realized something. If they're rebooting it, we're never going to figure out what happened after
A New Matrix Without the Wachowskis?
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Michael Keaton and Morbius met up.
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ah damn it. You're What a shame. okay that was the funniest post-credit scene i've ever seen it's really like it's really like i don't know how i ended up here like it was so stupid i think we should team up and it's like m literally he's just like spider-man something to do with it he's the uh he's the dad from fairly odd parents just going tinkle bird
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um Drew Goddard reveals that they are developing a new Matrix movie. God help us. Thoughts? <unk> think I just summed it up.
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Who's Drew Drew Goddard is an American screenwriter, director, and producer. Here's some projects he's written. he just He's actually developing a new Matrix movie, Tachi. Oh, for sure. Yeah.
00:04:40
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He wrote Cabin in the Woods, World War Z, The Martian, Cloverfield, and he did the screenplay for Project Hail Mary. Okay, so he's actually cooked a couple times. He's cooked
Paramount's Ambitious Theatrical Plans
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a couple times, but Matrix without the Wachowskis?
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Yeah. I don't know.
00:04:58
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I'll stay tuned. i mean, the last one wasn't any good. It wasn't. Yeah. To to be to be fair. So i don't think we need more reboots, though. We all would we all know that, though.
00:05:09
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Yeah. We're going to keep getting them. Paramount claims that they will release a minimum minium of 30 films per year theatrically once they buy Warner Brothers. It will be 15 per studio with a minimum 45-day theatrical window.
00:05:25
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Do we that? Remember when we antitrust laws? No. We're cooked. We're done. i give the odds less than 5%. That they actually honor the theatrical window like that? Yeah.
00:05:38
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Or the even guarantee of 30 films theatrically. Yeah. We'll see. What if they
God of War Series Hype
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shelve the Batman part two? I will literally... There's no way.
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I will jump.
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up and down in rage and express how disappointed I am in a strongly written letter to the execs at Paramount shouting.
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All right. What's the next one? It looks like some fans of the live action God of War series may have been jumping with rage at the early screenshot of something that is something yeah the little kid's hairdo makes him look like Andy Serkis he looks like a very small Andy Serkis what did you call him touching a baby freak it's a child why did you expose me like that that was off the record well now it's on the record okay well that's fair
00:06:45
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we yeah yeah We have a lot of new followers this week, so you guys are actually witnessing something pretty rare. I'm usually the one who says something incriminating. Not Tachi. Tachi said it before. I'm just the one who outed him.
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yeah What do you guys think of this? Are you guys excited for this show? not Not really. I'm not going to watch it. yeah i don't think I'll watch it either. like I never
The Ugly Sonic Conspiracy Theory
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played the games. like You never played them?
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No. I got through half of Ragnarok and I just never went back. Is that what this shows base off? God of War? The Ragnarok story?
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I don't know like which story because I don't know how many God of War games there are. There's like a handful. There's a lot. so yes I don't know which one they're going to adapt. I assume this is Ragnarok, right? Because he's got the got the kid.
00:07:35
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The boy. Yeah. I thought the kid showed up in the Greek one. Oh. I mean, I don't know. He's young. He's like 10. ten Yeah, but i I thought he showed up.
00:07:48
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Because I remember, what was it? The same year Red Dead 2 came out was when the God of War, like one that made waves came out with the kid. Boy. Because it was like the memes of like Kratos saying boy and then Arthur being like, good boy.
00:08:04
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that not Ragnarok? No, I thought that was the Greek one. I don't know. I've never known played any of these games. I don't think we're fully in the world of video games, clearly.
00:08:17
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um But I do think this looks bad. Right. I have no faith in it. And I will tune in. Do you think they could fix it if they wanted it to?
00:08:29
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Like the the Sonic fix? The Sonic fix is something else. I think i'm I'm with the conspiracy theory that the Sonic fix was done purposefully.
00:08:41
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I like that theory. i don't think... but I think Ugly Sonic was on purpose. I don't think Ugly Sonic was ever going to be released. I think that was the intention. I think that was marketing.
00:08:52
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And it worked. Because i don't know like how much work goes into CG artists, especially like in live action, but there is no way that they basically had a movie done and then scrapped it and then replace them with like the actual render that we see today. I think i think uglyly Sonic was marketing.
00:09:13
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and It's interesting. I haven't heard that I'll get on board. Why not? Sure. Yeah. If we ever find out one day that it was you heard it here first. Release
Project Hail Mary: Book vs. Movie
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the Sonic files.
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Speaking of looking terrible, Jonathan Majors' his epic comeback is upon us, for he is teaming up with The Daily Wire to do a movie produced by Ben Shapiro.
00:09:41
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The first time i saw this headline, I thought it was discussing fish. What do you guys think the movie's going to be? It said it's... um we got We got plus 700 right now on a Charlie Kirk biopic.
00:09:55
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That would be crazy. It was starring Jonathan Majors. Who's he playing? Charlie Kirk. That would be crazy. I saw... I don't think this was true. I think this was was just a bit.
00:10:08
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But it's supposed to be the... The movie is going to be the anti-woke sinners. I saw that too. I thought that was real. It was just the joke, but... What would the anti-woke sinners even be like? I don't know. i really don't know.
00:10:27
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God, how many vampire attacks were there? i mean, just... Like, what are you gonna what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? i think it's how would you make How would you make an anti-woke sinner? like, alright, let's just spitball. So like you got...
00:10:46
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The vampires. Yes. And they're they're attacking people. Yes. Are they equal opportunists attacking people? I think it's ah race swapped. I think our heroes are white and then the vampires are black. The vampires black. Yeah.
00:11:01
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That's the anti-woke sinners. Very similar beats. Just race swapped. Okay, instead of the Irish jig, they're what? Doing a rap video? I so.
00:11:15
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Isn't that just from Dusk Till Dawn? look At that point. Not the rap bit, but like the race swap bit. Except instead of Jonathan Majors, it's Salma Hayek and vampiric Latinas.
00:11:32
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yeah I think that was a lot of people's like criticism when Sinners first came out anyway. Which I think is a valid criticism. I mean, it is just kind of deep south from Dusk Till Dawn.
00:11:43
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Movies be movies. They do be movie-ing. They do. I think there's space for both of them. Maybe not this one. so Maybe not this next one. a Project Hail Mary, early reactions.
00:11:57
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Have you guys seen them? They're good. Real good. I'm always cautious of early reactions. I think big movie pays people sometimes.
00:12:07
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They do. To say things. Did you start reading the book, Tachi? I said I would. i haven't. I'll start today, i think. ah Do you own a copy or did you library it?
00:12:20
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It's right there. Nice. Got a bookmark ready for it. just haven't started. Got a hundred pages left in House of Leaves, so I don't think I'll be joining you on finishing Project Hail Mary before the movie comes out.
00:12:33
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I think I'm going to join you to watch here. might hit up Barnes and Noble after this. We have like two weeks-ish, right? Yeah. How many pages is it? It's moderately dense. It's got 476 pages.
00:12:49
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okay So I think if you strategize to attack it every day, think it's doable. I think that's attainable. I was back. I was going back and forth based off of our last conversation that you said you wanted to read it before.
00:13:01
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I've been getting a lot of TikToks of people who are suggesting to read it before. and I just didn't know if I wanted to try that or read the book after or even read it at all. But I think I've been convinced to read it before.
00:13:14
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Right. Me too. It's been my goal. I bought this like six months ago with the intention to start when I bought it and I just never did. So I
In-depth Movie Review: Casting and Performance
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think the the deadline is going to help. For sure.
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and we're very close to it. I regardless, I am excited for the movie. Me too. Did you guys see that one clip I sent of ah Ryan Gosling in Jeopardy? Yeah.
00:13:36
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like I mean, I also was there, so. Shut up. What happens? The caption is Ryan Gosling throws a Hail Mary during Final Jeopardy. And the question was something about like, what do you call this like football related injury where this, this, this happens?
00:13:53
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And his answer, he puts IDK. And then he's like, oh, Ryan just wrote IDK. And he just like shrugs his shoulders. He's like, oh, and I'm getting word that we will accept IDK and as like internal disc knee dislocation or something like that to like that match IDK. And he was just like his face and then just wins Jeopardy.
00:14:12
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All right. psyched. Speaking of movies, let's get into the ones we're talking about today. We're going kick it off with how to make a killing directed by John Patton Ford. Here's the synopsis.
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Disowned at birth by his obscenely wealthy family, blue collar Beckett red fellow will stop at nothing to reclaim his inheritance. No matter how many relatives stand in his way. And this is starring Glenn Powell, Margaret Qualley, Jessica Henwick, Ed Harris, Bill Camp, and more.
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We'll kick it off with our letterbox love like loathe and then get into our thoughts of the movie. Y'all ready? Yep. All right. Alex has our five star. Tachi has a three. And I have the one.
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Let's do it. From Kenny. Glenn Powell's done it again. The power suits, the brown hair on that man, the morally questionable decision making, flawless cinema, morally questionable.
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Kenny, what's, uh, what are you questioning? What part exactly? clo what What bit? Let us know. Let us know, Kenny. Okay, our three star comes in from Lainey. I've actually got two three stars a today.
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Okay. First one comes in from Lainey. Glenn Powell, get fat now. What? It has now in all caps. I will say that when looking for a review to read like 85% or just horny in nature.
00:15:46
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It seems like the the three stars are no different. don't think you're wrong about that. So the real one comes in from Amy Nicholson, three stars. What gives it zip is Powell's sly nonchalance, the little bounce he makes on his cot when Beckett pivots to give the flabbergasted priest his full attention.
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He has hours to. Powell has yet to find his perfect role. This one's close. But his confidence is why the industry is convinced that he's the reincarnation of a classic leading man, Tom Cruise or Cary Grant, if we're lucky, or at least Bugs Bunny.
00:16:18
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Cary Grant is crazy work. And I really like Glenn Powell. Also his like role is it's his character and everybody wants some. He already, if he found it years ago. Mm hmm.
00:16:31
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If you haven't seen that movie, go do it. Yeah. Yeah. We'll talk about Glenn Powell. I feel like he might be the main topic of discussion with this movie. But ah here is our one star by Suhana.
00:16:44
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Why is Glenn Powell allergic to making good movies? Ouch. Suhana, do we agree with you? i don't know. We'll find out. Clearly we don't to some degree because i just gassed up everybody wants some.
00:17:00
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But we're talking about the movie specifically. What was your guys' hype level or expectations going into this previously? If there was any. I like Gwen Powell. I really wanted to succeed.
00:17:10
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I thought the partnership with A24 could send him in a pretty interesting direction in terms of what kind of character that he has. um So I was really excited about the movie.
00:17:21
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I saw the trailer before Marty Supreme and was like, ah, that looks fun. Yeah. And was like, you know, but could be fun. I think that was the first time I saw the trailer too was before Marty Supreme and I'm with you. i think we all like Glenn Powell.
00:17:39
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So I see an A24 logo. I see Glenn Powell. I see Margaret Qualley. I go, I'm in. I'm a simple guy to please. And it seemed like a fun enough premise
Glenn Powell's Typecasting Concerns
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regardless of premise that we've seen ah time and time again.
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i think we saw one pretty recently with no other choice with these themes of like eating the rich. But regardless, I was in and I was excited.
00:18:04
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What works for you guys for this movie? Glenn Powell, Margaret Qualley. Does Margaret Qualley work for you guys? Because I will say she does not work for me in this movie. Well, let's start with you then. Let's let's start by being negative.
00:18:18
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Okay. Sure. Margaret Qualley is in an entirely different movie. I think, and I hate her wigs. I think her hair looks bad. um The movie she's in, I think is more interesting.
00:18:32
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But miscast. I've liked Margaret Qualling a lot, but I've also seen her in some questionable roles, and I think I'm of the opinion that she is hit or miss at this point.
00:18:45
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wow we just lost all those new followers i spoke of but and regaining more and more do you speak do you have an idea of who you think would be a better casting so cam and i were having this discussion after the movie when we're in the car and as far as like decisions with the cast goes, we feel, we agreed on this part, that at least for Glenn Powell, and I'll throw Margaret Qualley in this too, that this movie might have had a stronger hand with more unknown actors.
00:19:19
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I think Glenn Powell in this is nothing new and nothing special that we haven't seen from him in his last like five movies.
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like I think they're all iterations of each other. He is being typecast. Yes, he's he's being typecast. It kind of seems like he's happy with it. I'm not sure if him and his agent are like having a good time like getting these types of roles. like We always say, like oh, Jenna Ortega needs a new agent. We're like, does Glenn Powell need a new agent?
00:19:47
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Well, because he, I mean, at least he's getting a lot of like leading roles. Yeah. In like real movies, not like whatever Jenna Ortega is doing. True. Which is why I think they might be happy with this kind of these decisions in this relationship. This level of success.
00:20:03
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Yeah. Yeah. Cause I mean like who wouldn't be, but. All that to say, like, Glenn Powell's got it in him, for sure. i don't know if we're going to keep getting these movies, like, most notably, like, Hitman.
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Like, I feel like this was, like, the same character from Hitman. Hitman being a lot more enjoyable for me. All right, so if you want to know, Glenn Powell's last five movies were How to Make a Killing, The Running Man, Twisters, Anyone But You, and Hitman.
00:20:33
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That is... That's a run right there. What kind of run? Like a good run? It's a run. It's a run. um I think that's a medium run.
00:20:45
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mean, obviously he got big with with Maverick. Yes. And then he was it looks like he was immediately in another movie about planes called Devotion. That one's with Jonathan Majors, right?
00:20:55
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yes yeah never saw that one same and joe jonas apparently is also in that oh fine and then after the double plane feature using the hitman anyone but you i liked him in hitman i kind of liked that he was like this dorky professor and also i just like i just had to like link later movies Same. I forgot Hitman was linked later.
00:21:22
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um I thought he was fine in Twisters. like It wasn't anything that required like acting. He just kind of had to be there and be handsome. He had if you can feel it, chase it. mean, that was pretty hype. like It gets me hype, for sure. kind of wanted to go storm chasing.
00:21:42
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i I didn't see the running man, and I didn't see anyone but you. and It's fine. I mean, i don't see a reason for him to complain about being in that one.
00:21:56
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But what what did you guys think of Glenn Powell on this? i Yeah, I like him. was fine. Yeah. Yeah. well Like, again, this didn't require, like, anything.
00:22:08
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i couldve I could have done this. I could acted in this. i kindt be like like I mean, I'm not maybe not to the level of him like that confident in front of the screen, but like I don't think he did anything to make this character.
00:22:22
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I looked at him and I saw Glenn Powell and um I didn't see a different character. Yeah. Whereas if I watch like a Leonardo DiCaprio or a Timothee Chalamet movie, I say, oh, that's, you know, Marty Mauser, Bob Ferguson.
00:22:36
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Is that but here? Oh, my God, it's Glenn Powell. Is this what we can expect, do you think, from his career? Because it's not necessarily a negative, but at what point... I don't think it's necessarily his fault either. Yeah, I also don't think it's his fault, but like at what point are we just going to be like, we see a new movie of his come out and know exactly like what to expect and then kind of just be happy with that?
00:22:56
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I'm okay with it, and here's why. Because something is going to come out that's going to be not the formula, and it's going to go ridiculous. He's got it in him.
00:23:07
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I know he's got it in him. I think it was just... So my argument with like replacing Glenn Powell and Margaret Qualley with like lesser-known actors would not, for me, I think, have made this that much better.
00:23:23
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i just think the movie was kind of one note overall. my My problem with the whole movie is the writing, and I think... That's why I'm not really laying into him as much is because he's really only giving us what he, what the script.
00:23:39
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Yeah. what What the script allowed him because the movie for me just never feels like it dies deep enough in any direction. It doesn't go deep into like the, the,
00:23:53
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moral questionability like that reviewer said about his actions um he he kind of just brushes off any problem with being a serial killer um nothing is really addressed in terms of the legality the the the movie starts off with him in a jail cell Actually, not even in a jail cell, on death row. Yeah. Hours away from execution.
00:24:25
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ah and it I get ah get what you mean, though. Yeah. And like there there were bits and pieces where i was like, oh, some of these codes are pretty specific and creative.
00:24:36
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um So I feel like the writers had it there. I think the film that they wanted was in reach, but they just couldn't commit to serial killer killing being wrong or billionaires being the problem. Or I don't know, like they just don't go anywhere. it's just like, this is his story.
00:24:56
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Watch what happens to this handsome white guy. That's exactly you perfectly put for how I felt like walking out of it.
Critiquing Plot and Theme Commitment
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Like it just...
00:25:06
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there I think there were a few like directions that this could have gone that it just didn't. um like And there's a lot of moments in this movie where we're supposed to suspend our disbelief. No, I have no problem doing that. like That's exactly what you're supposed to do.
00:25:20
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But it would it just kind of just kept flip-flopping between the two where it just like i just I just couldn't connect like emotionally to any of the characters or or like for anything that was going on at the end of the day.
00:25:32
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So I thought this was based on a book, and it looks like it's actually based on a movie, which was based on a book. Okay. ah The book was Israel Rank, the Autobiography of a Criminal, published in 1907, and the movie it's loosely based on was called Kind Hearts and Coronets.
00:25:48
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And the plot of that movie is it concerns Louise Diasco-Mazzini, the son of a woman disowned by her aristocratic family for marrying out of her social class. After her death, vengeful Louis decides to take the family's dukedom by murdering the eight people ahead of him in line of succession to the title.
00:26:11
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But I agree with you because I thought it was actually like a book for some reason. I thought this was based on a book and I was like, oh i wonder if the book flushes it out more. Now I wonder if this movie flushed it out more.
00:26:23
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Maybe if the book, I mean, i I haven't heard of either of these, so who knows. But because that was, I mean, that was, i thought it was a fun movie. had a good time with it. It's like, ah oo what's going to happen next?
00:26:36
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Kind of flick. Like this would go insane on an airplane. This is like movie. Yeah. i mean, it's just like airplane masterpiece. Um, I mean, I had a lot of fun with it, but I do think that, um,
00:26:54
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There is, oh, like, okay, not to spoil anything. we can We can kind of, I'll hint towards this. I think the ending fumbled this movie so hard. Yeah. So hard. Yeah.
00:27:05
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Like, it I went from it thinking like, oh, wow, they're actually going to do it and this is going to be peak to being like, ah, dang it. You know? Because I don't think they committed enough to like, it it did just seem that he was like too cool with it.
00:27:22
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There was no stress with like everything coming apart. like He didn't ever really get super frantic. And I don't think that was on him. I mean, the script kind of never called for that to happen. Yeah, right. um I mean, even like his interactions with the FBI, it was just, they were over.
00:27:42
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You know, until until they weren't. But, because, like, you watch a movie like Uncut Gems, and, you know, last 50 minutes that movie, like, Howie is clearly unraveling.
00:27:56
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and Because nothing is going right. And I think that this movie needed that. To some capacity. Yeah. i'll tell you what I'll tell you what really worked.
00:28:09
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I really liked Jessica Henwick in this as as Ruth. She was really good in this. She was, i think, my favorite performance of the bunch. She felt the most... um Not relatable, but like she had like the the deepest like emotional core to me.
00:28:27
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And I think there was something like that relationship between her and Glenn Powell could have been something like really special if Glenn Powell had the had the work to like have that depth of his character.
00:28:40
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But like you were guys were saying, like he was just like really calm, cool, and collected throughout the entire movie. I think the like overall like premise of the movie is really interesting. like With his mom dying, I think you can have a very like emotionally driven character.
00:28:58
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But he just wasn't that. But Jessica Henwick does bring some of that to him through their relationship so i would have to give her her props there as well topher grace zach woods the other family members the deaths they're awesome i i know topher grace's character was kind of meant to feel a little outlandish i guess compared to glenn's like calm cool and collected know i'm a rising whatever.
00:29:30
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Yeah. Finance guy slash killer. Um, but I don't know the, the wackiness of that character. felt pretty good to me i agree with you for topher grace i think very similar to zach woods and i think that's like ultimately where i land with margaret quality there's another movie going on here that's what i'm saying there's something a bit more outlandish and wacky happening under the the surface but it's like it just never gets there it does it just does not get there
00:30:03
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it uh yeah now that you mentioned it like she does seem like she was in something else yeah she's like so intense it's the whole time i'm crazy intense yeah she really commands your attention on screen i was scared of her ah like i imagine like imagine matching with her on hinge and like she's that scary i'd be scared it'd be insane Yeah, I just I felt like her character was so entertaining to watch because it was just a little crazy.
00:30:37
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I don't know. Maybe that's just what the movie needed. It needed a juice of or a shot of something. Maybe that wasn't it. but It was there.
00:30:48
Speaker
Can we can we talk about the ending in the spoiler in the spoiler way? Yeah. All right. Spoiler alert. You've been warned. When I was saying that this movie felt like very one note, it just kind of just felt like a rinse of repeat for an hour and 20 minutes.
00:31:00
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And then this twist was thrown in. And I was like pissed. Like I wasn't mad that they didn't commit to like Glenn Powell actually getting on death row. I was mad that they felt they had to throw in this curveball to like try to make it interesting.
00:31:13
Speaker
And it just pissed me off more. He should have gotten executed. I think it would have been interesting. That's how the movie should end is he should have been executed. He should have done everything up to like the last second of like you're never going to believe this.
00:31:27
Speaker
and he shouldve gone He should have gotten the lethal injection or whatever they're going to do to him. I think we need more movies that do that. Like when I think of like franchises, like superhero franchises that won't commit to killing like a main character because you just can't like contractually and financially.
00:31:47
Speaker
But I feel like with these one-off movies, do that, do that. Like take the big swing. Yeah. to Do the thing. But the thing is, I could totally see like some producer being like, no, you can't do that because what if it makes a killing and we're going to do a sequel?
00:32:04
Speaker
Did this movie make a killing? I don't know. Let's see. Sure it did okay. A24 is just putting anything out nowadays. It had the bones.
00:32:16
Speaker
but like they just They'll put anything out now. like They used to be like, oh it's going to be weird and boutique. And and now it's just like, ah... there There was a time how when A24 was synonymous with like a certain type of movie.
00:32:31
Speaker
And yeah, I agree with you. like The bigger they got, the more quote-unquote film bro they got and basic they got. Yeah, I would not guess that this movie would have, back in the day, been like from A24. In 2019, if you showed me this trailer and you were like, who's the distributor? have been like, a Box Searchlight?
00:32:51
Speaker
is this Searchlight, Paramount. Yeah. Warner Brothers. I can't find the budget, but I'm seeing a worldwide box office of $6.2 million.
00:33:05
Speaker
don't think that's a lot. It's not. Let's see what the budget was. $15 million. o Guys, this movie's a flop. Damn. They should have killed him. They should
A24's Strategic Shift and Its Fallout
00:33:18
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have killed the guy.
00:33:21
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And this director, John Patton Ford, So I get confused with um whenever I see things. Okay, so here's his his bio on Letterboxd. John Patton Ford is an American screenwriter and film director. He is known for his 2022 debut feature, Emily the Criminal, which starred Aubrey Plaza.
00:33:37
Speaker
The film premiered at the Sundance Festival and received Best Screenplay. Whenever I see directors like this, I have like one movie under their belt. And then they have an A24 movie with Glenn Powell and Margaret Qualley.
00:33:49
Speaker
how does How does that happen? Like, Yeah, where in the files are you, dude? He's got short films from 2006, 2007, 2010, and then an Aubrey Plaza feature film, and then a Glenn Powell feature film. He he must have, like, because the problem Letterboxd is don't it gives a lot of context for, like, TV or, like, assistant stuff that they've worked on, and they finally broke through.
00:34:17
Speaker
like you know One of those backup QBs who rides the pine for like 10 years, but then like someone's like, we're going start him. like yeah that it's Yeah, there's got to be something like that. i just thought i mean, you wouldn't know that because you don't know Ball. but I get the analogy. knowledge you want me to know Ball so bad. Yeah, I do. It's objectively good to know Ball.
00:34:41
Speaker
T-Money knows Ball. T-Money does know Ball. yeah Oh, I know a little bit of ball. Okay. Listener. I'm in a dynasty fantasy league with, with T money.
00:34:53
Speaker
And I joined it this past year. And, uh, the, uh, the commissioner is like, whatever you do, don't trade with Tachi. Oh, and what does Tachi do? He's like, welcome to the league. And then sends me a terrible trade offer.
00:35:08
Speaker
It was a trade offer with a lot of context that just needed to be understood. And um maybe it just wasn't good enough.
00:35:25
Speaker
Maybe it was a terrible offer. I'm sorry. I'm not KV. You're not going to take my whole team. Although, apparently, taking Brian Thomas Jr. was good for me. so Yeah, it turns out that way, huh?
00:35:41
Speaker
Yeah. We'll see how it goes. I know. I got like three years to figure it out. so So what worked in the movie? We've got Topher Grace and Zach Woods. Yeah, i like I like the supporting cast.
00:35:55
Speaker
I do like Glenn Powell. I want nothing but the best for this guy. He's insanely charming and not even that handsome. And. I'm cooked, dude.
00:36:10
Speaker
Glenn Powell's not even that handsome. I mean, what are we doing? I just got to go be a monk.
00:36:18
Speaker
he's He's fine in the movie. He's he's totally fine. i just want I just want something else, I think. So what works for me is the supporting cast and the idea of the movie, I guess. um Visually dull.
00:36:37
Speaker
It's very dull. It
Final Thoughts on 'How to Make a Killing'
00:36:39
Speaker
just is. They just had cameras. They literally just had cameras. like There was nothing interesting about it. They shot what they needed to and then went home. i hated how little some of the kills got for screen time.
00:36:54
Speaker
Yeah. same I feel like they focused those cameras on a lot of stuff where was like, I don't want to see this. want to see Glenn kill people. Now.
00:37:05
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I didn't even get that half the time. What about you, Tachi? What else works for you? Or doesn't, if that that we haven't shouted out yet. Yeah, I think it's just my first main point of writers committing to some sort of centralized theme and just sticking with that.
00:37:26
Speaker
Spreading themselves too thin with all these other little things. Just Stick with it. Tell a good story. Make the make the big swing. Kill Glenn Powell. Just a 30 minute long, terrible execution scene. It's just a close up of him the whole time. You know, I've heard to like, not to get off topic, but I have heard that the lethal injection is not an easy way to go.
00:37:53
Speaker
I've heard the same. It is really painful, apparently. it's like torture. But they give you, like, because the first injection they give you, I guess, is like a paralyzer. So you don't, like, squirm around and stuff.
00:38:05
Speaker
But I guess the actual, like, poison they use, the concoction, is, like, it doesn't react well. And it can take a little bit for you to just go. Show me that breakdown. the The whole movie, but the end is just, like, a 30-minute, like, him dying sequence. Yeah. No music, no anything. like just damn.
00:38:25
Speaker
ah Very like avant-garde. on the The entire movie, him narrating from the jail, this voiceover. How do you guys feel about that? How do you use that how do you feel about that is like as the framing device for the movie?
00:38:41
Speaker
if I liked it when I thought he was going to die. m Yeah, it felt fine throughout the movie. i actually do really like his narration. um I guess voice in in the literal and figurative sense.
00:38:56
Speaker
Yeah, think I think he speaks really well. Yeah, had good voiceover work on his part.
00:39:02
Speaker
Yeah, no complaints there. I liked it. All right. Did you like it? I'm not a fan of it. the The technique or? The technique. Okay. The technique itself throughout the entire movie.
00:39:16
Speaker
I think that just goes kind of hand in hand. Oh, you're probably wondering how I got myself in this situation. Yeah. Yep. That's me. Yeah. He did have that really funny joke about the Bible. It's like, as the Bible says, trip a thousand lifetimes starts with one step.
00:39:35
Speaker
It's in the Bible, right? That was pretty funny. I laughed. there's ah There's a few jokes in here. Got a little, uh, little for me. The noise through the nose. Any guffaws?
00:39:49
Speaker
Guffaws? Yeah. What is a guffaw? It's like, oh, what? who that's like Yeah, it's like a deeper kind of guttural laugh, I think. i think goofy.
00:40:00
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The guffaw meter. ah
00:40:05
Speaker
Overall, I think this was ah an interesting premise for a movie with a great cast that for me ultimately just did not land where it needed to. And that's okay. just felt like a January, dumpy-wary, February kind of release.
00:40:20
Speaker
It did. Well, like you're saying, this is going to do numbers on in the sky. ah That little Delta screen. Getting interrupted for when the captain has to make an announcement that the credit card deal has points.
00:40:39
Speaker
We go nuts. I hate when I take my headphones off and they're just like, sign up for our credit card. get now Well, until so now, the worst part is you can't ignore that.
00:40:50
Speaker
Yeah, it will play through your headphones. So you listen to whatever they're saying, because, I mean, it makes sense. Like you have like, let's say you have like an actual like safety announcement. You want to make sure people are going to hear it.
00:41:02
Speaker
But they use that thing for like. Sign up for our credit card. Has anyone ever done it? Do you think anyone's ever been on a plane and be like, I am going to sign up for that credit card now, actually? I'm going to guess yes, because like what's their hit rate?
00:41:19
Speaker
There are some of like the points deals that they'll say where I'm there and I'm like, if I was in the market for a card, like I might do this.
00:41:31
Speaker
So it's just very niche. i like I just want to know like 50,000 miles for signing up. It's like, yeah, that's, that's actually pretty good. It's not bad, but I'm like, what is like, how often do they get somebody like 10 people a day?
00:41:45
Speaker
Enough that they do it enough that every every airline does it. Right.
00:41:51
Speaker
all right Actually, I want to say my JetBlue card, when I had a JetBlue MasterCard, I want to say we timed it specifically to get it so we got the points deal. Did you still have the card? still accurate No, I don't have the card anymore. was going ask for the card number.
00:42:07
Speaker
Are you guys ready for ratings? I'm ready.
00:42:15
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I saw Alex's already.
'Send Help': First Impressions
00:42:17
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but I didn't know you guys were going to review this. so Okay. What you share it with the class what it was, Alex? I did a seven out 10. So three and a half out of five. I because as much as like there is to complain about it, I did go into it being like this is what this movie is going to be.
00:42:36
Speaker
And I had a good time with it. I was just in the market for like, just want to see something done today. So I saw it and I was like, yeah. Yeah, we did crab on the plot. But it is good. Like, it's fun.
00:42:47
Speaker
how about Malik goes? Because he's silent and staring at the camera. What did you give Malik? I'm going to give it a two and a half out of five. Wow. i think it's all middle of the pack.
00:43:00
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It's bearable. Glenn Powell looks good. Strong jawline. That's about that's about it for me I could see this one being lowered as other movies come out that are more deserving of a 7 out of 10. I'd say it's a low 7. Like a low.
00:43:16
Speaker
very soft one. Yeah. Like you round it in 6.7. Yeah.
00:43:24
Speaker
What have I done? I'll give it a 3. What have done? What was yours? A 3. 3 out of 5. It got the job done. it it was it got the job done And it, I just get frustrated because we have so many of these movies where there's so much potential for it to be great.
00:43:46
Speaker
Like i hate when the bones have these, or when the the movies have these bones, they have the structure, but they just can't, I can't land it. Yeah. I wish that like I had more fun with it.
00:44:00
Speaker
Like, I don't think there were any expectations I had going into it. It just wasn't the fun I imagined. It was a rollercoaster ride with not that many twists and turns for me.
00:44:11
Speaker
not Not a single loop? You also think Glenn Powell's ugly, so... I was i was joking. He's obviously extremely handsome. That a pisses me off.
00:44:22
Speaker
But thanks for bringing it up again.
00:44:26
Speaker
Alright, that's how to make a killing. Let's quickly talk. Send help. Let's. Tachi, we saw send help together. Alex, what about you?
00:44:38
Speaker
When did you watch this movie? So I actually spent the last week in our nation's capital doing on the ground research for our next Lost in the Lore deep dive.
00:44:50
Speaker
Nice. So did you watch the movie? Nope. Bye.
00:45:00
Speaker
And Alex has left the building. Is he gone? i think he's gone. He left.
00:45:10
Speaker
no doubt. All right. All right. Me and you two, money. Sure. Let's talk about Sam Raimi's send help. Let's ready. Yep. All right. I'll read the synopsis for us.
00:45:21
Speaker
Send help directed by Sam Raimi. Two colleagues become stranded on a deserted island, the only survivors of a plane crash. On the island, they must overcome past grievances and work together to survive, but ultimately, it's a battle of wills and wits to make it out alive.
00:45:36
Speaker
This is starring Rachel McAdams and Dylan O'Brien. Sure, sure did start them. It really did start them real good. Let's do our letterbox of like, though, then talk about how we felt about it.
00:45:48
Speaker
All right. I've got our five star and one star. You've got our three star. I'll start with the five. This comes in from Kaylee. I support women's rights and women's wrongs.
00:46:03
Speaker
This three star comes from Stefan. Three stars because she didn't cut it off.
00:46:10
Speaker
That is a scene we'll talk about. is This one star comes in from, I'm sorry if I mispronounce this, Satya. One star.
00:46:21
Speaker
Raimi, just like J. Cole, washed. Oh, we needed alex to talk about the J. Cole being washed. Oh, yeah, we did. We'll address the next episode. We will. We will.
00:46:32
Speaker
Okay. We watched this together. Yep. What was your hype level going into this, if there was any? I mean, there was some. you can't, i don't think you can not be hyped about a Rachel McAdams movie that's getting, you know, marketed this much.
00:46:48
Speaker
And Dylan O'Brien is like household favorite. I don't know of anyone who doesn't like him. So he seems like a fun guy. Yeah, I was reasonably excited. I think all them with a combination of Sam Raimi. I saw Sam Raimi talk very highly about Rachel McAdams after working with her in Doctor Strange of the Multiverse of Madness.
00:47:07
Speaker
Right. Obviously had a very small role in that, but I think he enjoyed working with her so much like he gave her that he like wrote this. They wrote the script and then gave her like the main role. That's what I think I didn't I think is just awesome. So, yeah, I'm like my high level for it was pretty high.
00:47:22
Speaker
it was tamed where like I feel like I was just like it's I think it'll just be like a good like popcorn movie. you Just like have a good time, see something maybe wild happen. Yeah, it was giving me like survivor vibes, which we'll get into. So so I was excited for it.
00:47:39
Speaker
But you do you have a history with Sam Raimi? Because I really don't outside of Spider-Man. I have a light history with Sam Raimi, so there's a few of his movies that I haven't seen. um i haven't seen Evil Dead 2, I've only seen the first Evil Dead, Drag Me to Hell, yeah, obviously the Spider-Man movies.
00:47:57
Speaker
i feel like he's just a, he's a character, I like him. i think I think I would always be excited for a Sam Raimi movie. And he went hard during for the Doctor Strange movie. Yeah, for sure. I think like moving forward and and for this movie, i I will be excited, I guess because I don't have the historical, i don't know, I guess nostalgia for his early horror work.
00:48:19
Speaker
It's just like a blank slate to me. So this is kind of like my first foray and a little bit of multiverse of madness for for what he's into, what he likes to show. Yeah, and I feel like this movie is honestly a really good like starter Sam Raimi movie. Because you kind of get the... like After seeing this, you you kind of get the gist of how he is as a filmmaker.
00:48:43
Speaker
like His horror movies have a lot of like levity in its scripts. There's a lot of comedy. And he likes to put his characters in these just like insane situations with a lot of blood and gore.
00:48:55
Speaker
And so for this movie, like on that level, I feel like it was pretty tame, but you kind of get the gist of like who Sam Raimi is and like the fun that he likes to have. Yeah. With his movies.
00:49:06
Speaker
For sure. All right. What works for you this movie? I think a lot works for me. I do like the survivor um ish feel kind of like cast away ish.
00:49:22
Speaker
That was fun. ah Rachel and Dylan were awesome together on screen. Really, really good chemistry there. And I just like the way it looks. It does look good.
00:49:34
Speaker
Who is this shot by? Let me see. Cinematography by Bill Pope, who has shot The Matrix, Baby Driver, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, Spider-Man 2, Shang-Chi, and let's find another fun one.
00:49:48
Speaker
The entire Spider-Man trilogy,
Survival Themes and Realism in 'Send Help'
00:49:50
Speaker
basically. Okay, so he knows what he's doing. No, we got a legend. This movie looked... This is such like a ah a simple script.
00:50:00
Speaker
m it's very It's a very simple premise shot on location. like There's like three locations in this. The office, her house, the beach. Do you know what beach it was?
00:50:12
Speaker
Oh, I have no idea. Let me see if we can. I guess I could have looked it up. Sorry. Oh, no. All good. Where was Santa? Filmed. as Send help was filmed primarily on location in Thailand and Australia.
00:50:24
Speaker
Oh, that sounds fun. you You will not see me in Australia. What the wildlife there? I have. Yeah, I have no. Intention of going.
00:50:35
Speaker
Because of the giant spiders. Yeah, I'm good. I'll go to New Zealand for like Hobbiton. I'll go to New Zealand. Yeah. Yeah. um So I think the shooting on location kind of lends a pretty heavy hand in and how the movie looks and how it's shot. But obviously, Bill Pope is very good at what he does.
00:50:54
Speaker
And I think this movie also just looks really good. Yeah, there's really only one location or sequence that looks bad is the cliff. Outside of that, I think the rest looks great.
00:51:08
Speaker
It's for me, it's the cliff. I think some of like the CGI with like the boar is a little questionable, like especially when it's like the boar and Rachel McAdams like in the same shot. But the the scene itself was just like ridiculous and like not to be taken so seriously that I could forgive it.
00:51:25
Speaker
Right. Like the amount of blood that came out of that boar. Crazy. the um The header on Letterboxd for the picture is Rachel McAdams covered in blood. Right. Like head to toe.
00:51:37
Speaker
And I like what they did with the makeup there because it does give like the outline kind of of a skeleton or a skull. If you white out the the blood. Yeah.
00:51:49
Speaker
So that's how I do like that. hmm. That's a really cool detail. i was going to ask if you how did you feel about the dialogue the writing like i was saying earlier Sam Raimi can be like a bit cheesy in his dialogue sometimes but like he reminds me of he's like a ah different flavor of like an M. Night Shyamalan for me I think or like that's the point and I just like you just get it kind of.
00:52:14
Speaker
And i think it works extremely well for this movie. I think both Rachel McAdams and Dylan O'Brien bring ah more a lot more like depth to their characters. Dylan O'Brien is so good in this.
00:52:30
Speaker
And he's so funny. Yeah, he is. He's awesome. like This is a very, very funny movie. like The genre that this is categorized is thriller, horror, comedy. I would take out horror.
00:52:43
Speaker
Like... yeah there's really only one horror scene outside of that is just thriller and jokes a thriller comedy but yeah like i think we're laughing a lot like a laughing a lot more than i thought we would me too his cackle it's awesome it's really iconic i feel like once you hear dylan's cackle you're not gonna unhear it ever that's just and i think that's just how he laughs too I did go back and watch a couple of interviews and you're right. It's just, that's just him, right? Yeah. It's him.
00:53:16
Speaker
It's his authentic self shining through. It's so good. Their relationship seemed really grounded and real though, despite yeah having some absurdities, they, it just felt like a very real dynamic.
00:53:31
Speaker
i would I was really happy with the dialogue and their,
00:53:37
Speaker
I guess just their performances in general together. Yeah, I think for roles like this, the chemistry is probably top of the
Survival Tactics and Character Analysis
00:53:44
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list for most important things, especially when you're just focused on two characters and their dynamic, both working relationship and them surviving. So like your chemistry needs to work. If it doesn't,
00:53:57
Speaker
then like you don't have a movie like this. Right. So this entire movie does hinge on their relationship, how they kind of banter back and forth with each other.
00:54:07
Speaker
And I think they both do a really good job of playing off of each other's characters, whether that's like for laughs or Dylan O'Brien just being an absolute dick and seeing the reaction on Rachel McAdams face. yeah Or whenever the roles first get reversed and and we're on the island for this time and seeing Dylan O'Brien kind of accept how things are.
00:54:29
Speaker
His helplessness. His helplessness and then even turning right back around when he starts to root for the guy and maybe starts to feel something.
00:54:37
Speaker
So they both did like an excellent job in this. For sure. Now, I kind of want to get into I think, a section that you're excited about, which is I guess, introducing some of the survivor aspects that you're really familiar with. I'm not familiar with this sort of stuff at all.
00:54:55
Speaker
um But was what Rachel McAdams was doing, her character, was any of that realistic? Like having a sushi boat and just... sushi boat no okay like like the the extent of like the food that she was making like having like the the sauce that she made and like the nice little sashimi pieces maybe not like to that extent but when they first get there and she's like grabbing the sticks and using like the vines of the trees to tie things up and like make shelter like all accurate
00:55:27
Speaker
okay so like she's a survivor fan in this and i just thought that was like i'm recently like a survivor fan as of the last like eight months and so i thought that was a really fun easter egg apparently they tried to get jeff probst who's the host of survivor to actually make a cameo in it ah but is Yeah, he was busy. He was busy shooting the new season, so they only were able to use his voice, but he was aware of it and they kind of worked together.
00:55:51
Speaker
So Rachel McAdams character is a big Survivor fan. the When they're on the plane before the plane crashes, Dylan O'Brien found her audition tape and they're all kind of laughing at her about it, which is so sad. It's really sad. It's that crushed me.
00:56:06
Speaker
It actually broke my heart. Yeah. I will be sending a Survivor tape one day. I got to get on that island. So I just thought that was a really fun nod to her character.
00:56:19
Speaker
And how she can have the confidence to do what she's doing on this island. Confidence and competence. Cause there's yeah no way I can make a shelter. Oh no.
00:56:31
Speaker
There's no way I know how to tie knots. Are you kidding me? I wonder how people practice before they go on survivor.
00:56:41
Speaker
don't know because you'll have repeat people on the show that have been on the show previously so like they're like okay I know what to do but you ah you also have people who have never done it It's just a teamwork thing. So being by yourself, especially with like your dick boss who's like knocked out, that's impressive.
00:56:59
Speaker
When you have like five other people also trying, then it's I think it's a little bit easier. Okay. I didn't know they worked in teams like that. I thought it was all just like one on one on one on one. Yeah, no, it's like, I think you start with like 20 people split up in three different teams. Oh, like three different tribes. And so you're all kind of working together. Everyone has a role.
00:57:16
Speaker
Everyone has a role. Everyone's doing what they need to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think her to do this all by herself? is Very impressive. Like that much more impressive. What role would you want? Would you want hunter, gatherer, forager, woodsman, fisher?
00:57:35
Speaker
I don't know. it You got to be flexible. I think starting off maybe like a gatherer, like gathering what we need for the shelter, helping with that, trying to chop things down. Yeah.
00:57:46
Speaker
Because you also got to win challenges. You got to win challenges to get more gear. So they literally start with nothing. So like they can't they can't fish. Like the first challenge, like the team that wins gets fishing gear.
00:57:57
Speaker
So like you got to make sure that you're going hard on the challenges to get the necessary tools that you need to survive. And if you get marooned, do you have any confidence in yourself that you could stay alive to?
00:58:10
Speaker
Okay. No, currently none. or None. I'm dead. What about you You wake up on the island and you're just like, oh no. um Yeah. I'm like, all right, I'm done. I, you know what?
00:58:22
Speaker
Maybe. Okay. Big maybe though. What, what are the conditions that need to be met? I don't know. I'm just thinking of like I'm thinking of survivor. I'm thinking of lost and I think I would just have to lock in.
00:58:35
Speaker
OK, I think with the knowledge of TV shows, maybe I could be OK. OK, so what's your first step? You wake up on the sand. What do you do
00:58:47
Speaker
I jump from the highest cliff. OK.
00:58:52
Speaker
I assess the situation and I move as you're as you're falling. Yeah. And then the help boat comes 10 minutes later. It's tragedy. Do you think you could survive Marooned right now? A couple days.
00:59:07
Speaker
couple days. Until I start. yeah No. um I think I'd give a really valiant effort. If I had to survive, let's say, a month. like Like help was coming in a month.
00:59:22
Speaker
Yeah. I think I could survive. past a month I don't know I think we could I think the human spirit can do a lot yeah in strenuous circumstances yeah I think it's like you can survive 10 days or something as long as you have some water something like that without food yeah I think I could eat some tree bark make it work could you eat the bug like Dylan O'Brien oh that looked gross if I have to i guess Let's talk the paralyzed scene.
00:59:55
Speaker
Okay. So, Rachel McAdams, spoilers for Send Help, yeah if you haven't seen it. Rachel McAdams paralyzes Dylan O'Brien after he paralyzes her to try to escape.
01:00:06
Speaker
Right. literally did not see it coming they're having a very nice emotional moment she made some some wine or what was it like wine yeah it's like fermented something yeah so they got drunk yeah he ends up poisoning her to try to escape why are you trying to escape rachel mcadams relax this is like after an hour of the movie or something and they're like finally getting along yeah Doesn't work.
01:00:33
Speaker
He washes back up on shore with his failed boat. So she paralyzes him with like an actual. Like.
01:00:43
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viable poison yeah that will actually like do what it needs to it was probably strained from the butt of a bug or something yeah yeah and so she's like threatening him in this like passive aggressive tone just like having this conversation with him and he can't move at all and he's kind of just sitting there and the way that the camera's positioned she holds up a knife and she starts having conversations like we used to have a dog That would always run away. And and it's like a close-up of her over his body, basically.
01:01:16
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Yeah. like You can tell she's kind of straddling him. She holds up the knife, starts telling the story about how they got their dog fixed so that way he would obey more and would stop running away.
01:01:29
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Put two and two together, she's about to fix Dylan O'Brien. yeah And the sounds and the motion, yeah i was like... Did you believe it?
01:01:40
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I believed it. Me too. Masterclass in suspense right there. Yeah. I believed it. So good. She's just cutting like a mouse. Yeah. You hear like the fleshiness.
01:01:51
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Yeah. It was like a giant rat. he's a bleeder. Like blood like squirts out at him. Yeah. At her. Oh.
01:01:59
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Great writing. Great use of tension. Mm-hmm. Great acting. That scene, great acting, really elevated the movie for me yeah on that. Great sound effects. Unfortunately, great sound effects. If I'm crunching in my seat, then you did a really good job. I was feeling very squeamish. wanted to get out.
01:02:18
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But we did it. I think that would have made him behave better, though.
01:02:24
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You think so? oh for sure. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Right. I think so. I mean, he'd have no choice. So she had the right idea. The fact that she had this idea to do it in the first place.
01:02:39
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Like, how do you feel about Linda at like towards the end of the movie? Like, are you still on her side? No, of course not. ah Like at this very specific point?
01:02:50
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Like the at the very end of the movie. Oh, at the very end? Like are you, like at this point when she's with Dylan O'Brien poisons him and like kind of does the passive aggressive threat with yeah cutting his dick off towards the end of the movie where she's kind of like elevated and a bit more edge. Cuckoo bananas on edge. Yeah.
01:03:12
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I was with her even up to that point with the rat. Yes. But then it just devolves and things start getting revealed and you're like, okay, no, can't be on her side.
01:03:28
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You can't be on her side at a certain point. And you know what I'm talking about. I kind of
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01:03:33
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am that point. No. Yeah. I just, I i disagree.
01:03:40
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i think she, but like, she didn't do it. She just made a bad choice. yes yes of letting two people perish who would have you know rescued them immediately but um she want to back to reality she loved being in control But like i I just with her and this is just this is like and it's you instead of her hurt for her account for her performance.
01:04:15
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I just i I got it like I just get it. Yeah. No, I get it. Yeah. But I can't be on board. There's no way there's no especially if I'm Dylan or in the place of Dylan. I can't.
01:04:27
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That's true. Unless no. I mean, by the end of it, I am like good for her. Right. but She was liberated in a whole lot of different ways. Yeah. So I don't agree with someone's steps she took, but at the end of the day, go linda for her. Yeah.
01:04:44
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She, she lived her truth. She really did. Anything negative. This is the complete opposite of how to make a killing for me. Yeah. ah
01:04:57
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I like the swings. Uh, I like Sam Raimi style. I just... I don't... Yeah, like, the whole Quiff thing with it looking bad, I don't know if that was just, like, last-minute reshoots or something. I'm sure they have a reason.
01:05:12
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But... um Don't love the production level um on that. The pig stuff was fine. but yeah that the that special effects shouldn't be in a 2026 movie yeah that's marketed this much i think i saw somewhere that some of this movie was shot for 3d and so that could be like why some of the effects look a little wonky and so that's a little disappointing to hear because i mean as time goes on too that's only gonna look worse yeah for sure yeah I mean, it looked like it was graphics from 2010. Yeah.
01:05:47
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ten yeah Why are we shooting for 3D anymore? Yeah. I don't know. James Cameron did irreparable damage. watched Jurassic Park last year in 3D, and it was... i was like, how is this still a format? How is it still around? I don't know. People with glasses are screwed.
01:06:02
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Yeah. what were some of the reviews that you saw about the ah forty people watching it in 4DX? Yeah. Apparently it's like it's an amazing experience. um I do. we should We should go to a 40X showing. I just don't know what to expect.
01:06:16
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Like, what is the big deal about 40X? Have you done a 40X movie? No, never. Me neither. I've done... So, at Universal Studios when I was like 10, they had...
01:06:27
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I'm pretty sure this is exactly what 40 X is, but they had Shrek 4D and it was like a mini movie. It was like 20 minutes in a theater, but like is exactly what 40 X is now. Like the seats are moving around a dragon like sneezes and then you feel mist on your face like that. And so I'm assuming that's exactly what 40 X is now.
01:06:47
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And I'm down to watch something like that. Yeah, maybe this would have been an awesome 40 X movie. Maybe. I wonder what, what do you think they could have done during the, the rat scene to make that 40 probably just like the speakers that are probably on the seat, I think.
01:07:07
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Oh, or like detailed sounds. Okay. Does make you cringe just that much more stuff. Yeah. Yeah. don't know. We should check it out. Okay. I'm really curious now to see what 40
01:07:23
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Is there even 40 X in Austin? I'm pretty sure. i feel like they probably, I think they have it at the, uh, uh, Texas Regal gateway or maybe even Barton Creek.
01:07:37
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Yeah. you go Gateway and Barton Creek. Give me the vibe that they would have 40 X. I think so too. Yeah. We'll look into it. We'll, we'll report back to you guys. Right. Um, I don't know. how do you feel about the, the twist at the end with the other side of the Island?
01:07:54
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Does that work for you? i think I think without it, the movie would have stayed like still just as strong. I don't think it was like necessarily needed. like It explains like her getting the knife.
01:08:08
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Yeah, but like having like the entire home be there, I think just is just showing like her descent into madness a little bit more. But i don't think we fully needed it. I think we would have gotten the clue with her to send demand is with her letting the two other people diee sure So like it doesn't like ruin the movie for me doesn't like break the immersion or anything like that.
01:08:28
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it was just like something that I didn't see coming. where she was just like, oh, it was like, OK, and I could kind of just shrug it off and see that we're there now. So like it wasn't like in love with it, but it doesn't hurt the movie or detract anything from me.
01:08:39
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Were there any was there anything about the movie that you actually didn't like at all? Not really. Like, I think I just really liked this for what it is. Like, I think it's a very, like was saying earlier, a very simple script.
01:08:51
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I don't think there's anything like too like complex about it, which like at times can be maybe a bit boring, but I mean, ultimately still was a really fun time for me in the theater.
01:09:05
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So basically that's about it no qualms, really. No big qualms. Nice. A perfect umless movie. Yeah. yeah what about you yeah not really anything outside of the bad special effects sometimes um i had a really good time it was a fun movie i was surprised when you said that you wanted to watch it honestly i mean how scary could it really be because really what i'm yeah scared of is the supernatural yeah types of horror movies and while there's like a very very very light very sprinkle of that
01:09:44
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it's you know it's not enough to scare me off I guess yeah in this I was telling cam I was like you can watch this movie mm-hmm and like i'm I'm confident that I was like it's like one of the genres is horror not at all yeah for sure like you can watch it it's not only watchers movie yeah it's a yeah for the non horror movie watchers you can watch send help you might even have a good time yeah you ready for a final reading sure I think I saw your rating You probably did.
01:10:12
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I don't. Yeah. I guess I didn't know that we were going to do this. Same. That's all. That's also why I rated it too. So you might have seen mine. Yeah. but i goous I also gave it a four. We're aligned. Now what would Alex think of this movie?
01:10:26
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I don't know. actually need him to watch it. I think he could settle into a four as well. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know what he could really pick apart from this. How to make a killings rating. like I understand.
01:10:41
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Yeah, I think he could give us a four.
01:10:46
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We'll make you like it. I think so. Yeah, I mean, there's not that much to not like. We'll make him watch it and then report back. We're going to make it a. A quadruple header with heat.
01:11:01
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Popstar is something else. It'll be good. A third. Yeah, I think in our double header, making making it a triple header. Warriors of Virtue 2.
01:11:14
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Is there a second one? I wish. I'm glad there's not. had to erase that movie from my mind. I could never. For better, for worse.
01:11:27
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but Anyways, yeah. Send Help was really fun. Really well made. Yeah, highly recommend it if you haven't seen it. Recommend How to Make a Killing as well. yeah Watch these movies. Form your own opinions. Let us know what you thought of it.
01:11:38
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But we've got a fun month coming up. I'm excited for March. Yeah, it's going be some madness with the Oscars. We'll see how our predictions go. We'll cover that soon. Yeah.
01:11:49
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I'm excited. excited. I'm excited for our predictions. All right. Well, thank you so much for listening. Tune in next week. We will be back. And Alex will be back. Alex might be back. for steve tive Alex will return. Don't worry.
01:12:04
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Have a good night. Thank you for listening. We'll see you in the next one. ye Bye. Bye.