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Lost In The Band The Show The Movie
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Join us this week as we go back to 2008 with Nirvanna The Band The Show The Movie!
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Humorous Hostage Video Idea
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Okay, tonight, here is the plan. We are going to record a hostage ransom video.
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Whoa!
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What? And we are going to tell them that if they do not listen to Lost in the Frame, we're going to do something really bad to this guy. Whoa!
Introductions & Light Banter
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Welcome back to Lost in the Frame. My name is Alex.
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name is Tachi. My
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mine name is Malik.
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Okay. ah Hey, guys. Hey. Like we haven't been riffing and laughing for the last 20 minutes already.
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How are you guys? m I didn't... No, I'm good. Okay, good. How are you? I think that just got me because Alex is like, oh, what am I going to intro? And the five seconds it goes, okay, I got it.
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And that was immediately what came to mind was a a ransom thing. A ransom bit. I got a lot on my plate.
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We'll take some of those things off of your plate.
Is 'Nirvana the Band the Show the Movie' Gaining Popularity?
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Today, we are excited to talk about The movie Sweeping the Nation, Nirvana, the band, the show, the movie, which we saw last night. Yep.
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We did. And I'm excited to talk about it. is it Is it actually Sweeping the Nation? It is. i think it's Sweeping the Nation. I know it's getting good reviews, but... I mean, if you consider Letterboxd the Nation, it is number 92 all time on the website.
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Yeah, which we'll will we talk about. yeah I don't know if it's Sweeping the Nation. it's just Sweeping the Niche. I guess. That's good niche to sweep. The nation. I like that.
Excitement for 'Jason Statham Stole My Bike'
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Good.
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ah Let's talk about this slate of movie news before we get into Nirvana, the band, the show, the movie, which I'm going to say so many times. First piece of news. This one's huge, guys.
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Jason Statham will star as himself in a new movie called Jason Statham Stole My Bike. Hell yeah. Directed by David lee Leach, who most recently gave us Bullet Train.
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um It's going to be really good. yeah I'm in um for sure. Open bullet bullet train was a real good time. This is the perfect Jason. Stay the movie. Do you think he's going to steal someone's bike in it?
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I think he might. Oh, he might. He might. Oh, I stole
Trailer Talk: 'Over Your Dead Body'
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someone's bike. ah First trailer for Yorma Takoon's Over Your Dead Body starring Jason Segel and Samara Weaving. The film follows a couple who go to a secluded cabin not knowing that they are both secretly planning to kill each other.
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Isn't that just like the Pina Colada song? I feel like Pina Colada. are Are there other lyrics in that song? Yeah, like the whole bit where it's like I took out or I responded to an anonymous like please have sex with me ad.
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i don't think i'll be my wife and then it turns out it's my wife who put the ad in the paper. She likes pina coladas and getting caught in the rain. i don't think I've ever listened to the full song because I've only heard the court the chorus. The chorus like is the like anonymous ad. It's like, oh, if you like pina coladas getting caught in the rain.
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Like making love at midnight, you know, then respond to this ad, the original Tinder. going to do a little breakdown of this song. Okay. Uh, it's called escape in parentheses, the Pina Colada song by Rupert Holmes.
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Verse 1. And it gets the chorus we all know and love. Verse 2.
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so while she lay there sleeping i read the paper in bed and in the personal columns there's this letter i read and then it gets to the chorus that we all know and love verse two I didn't think about my lady. I know that sounds kind of mean, but me and my old lady had fallen to the same old routine.
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So I wrote to the paper, took out a personal ad, and though I'm nobody's poet, I thought it wasn't that bad. Verse three. So I waited with high hopes and she walked into place.
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I knew her smiling in an instant. I knew the cover of her face. It was my own lovely lady. She said, oh, it's you. Then we laughed for a moment moment. And I said, I never knew.
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That's crazy. That's what the song's about. Yes. Weird. And it sounds like it's a happy ending. Who among us hasn't tried to cheat and end up cheating on our spouse with our spouse? It's a very relatable song. For sure.
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Truly. Interesting.
Chloe Zhao's 'Mission Impossible 9' Speculation
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Well, in other news, ah there's another Mission Impossible in the works. ah but Allegedly. Allegedly. Yeah, supposedly.
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Apparently, Tom Cruise has approached k Chloe Zhao to pen the script for Mission Impossible 9.
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Interesting crossover. God, I hope Gabriel's not in it. Gabriel's literally the worst. Just launch him into the sun. If we had to deal with Gabriel like the first two movies, I'd be a much happier person.
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Yeah, he should have been the villain in Mission Impossible 2. he' Yeah, he's the worst part. Yeah, he's the worst part of the last two movies. Gabriel her Mission Impossible 2 does not deserve Gabriel.
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Come on. That movie was too saucy for him. He had negative sauce. I don't know where you... Okay, we just don't need him then. Get get him out of go get him out of the entire franchise.
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ah What do we think about a Chloe... What what what what would a Chloe Zhao Mission Impossible movie look like? It would look like Eternals, but with just the Mission Impossible cast. Just Tom driving around.
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You gotta trust me one last time. Which I'm down, because I liked Eternals. Same. Same. Maybe it'd be like Nomadland where he lives out of like a van. That'd be kind of cool. No stunts at all.
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The stunt is that he does meth.
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For real. I think we talk about drugs a lot on this podcast. I'm fiending.
Production Limbo of '28 Years Later'
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um I got some bad news with this next one.
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Third chapter of 28 Years Later Trilogy is now in limbo. What? Apparently... This comes from a report from World of Real.
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The outlet said, Danny's guy. trust him. For sure. it'll get made. should.
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despite announcing it last december in fact i've heard netflix has shown some interest in acquiring the sequel but danny boyle isn't having any of it he wants a theatrical release for his final chapter which is supposed to star killian murphy wow danny's our guy i trust him for sure i think it'll get made it should It should get made. People love it.
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Yeah. It's because the Bone Temple did bad. i don't know how it did bad. I don't know how it did bad. I think people were interested in 28 years later and it made good money, but it seemed kind of middling.
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And so maybe half of those people just weren't interested to go watch the second iteration six months later. think it was too much too soon? No, I just think people don't know something good when it hits them in the face.
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It's like the literacy crisis in this country. It's like how the handmaid out-earned sinners. m Bro, that's crazy. You sent that in the chat, but we didn't talk about it. That's actually insane. People just live completely different lives.
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There are circles that you have no way to comprehend. Right. What movie was it this year that made like a billion dollars? Zootopia 2. Yeah, that.
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That makes sense. The live action How to Train Your Dragon did really well. I think Moana 2 ended up doing like really well. Despite like, I didn't hear anybody. don't know anyone who's seen it, I don't think.
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Like, I don't know what it's about. you know a lot of kids or... well But still with these movies, I feel like we like at least hear something about it.
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Yeah, like K-pop was a movement. Yeah. That's like a whole thing. K-pop stans are a little different, though, than like Zootopia heads. They're
Kristen Bell in 'Sonic 4' and Sonic Nostalgia
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very different. The Judy Hopps hive. Yeah, I feel like those are the really the only fans of Zootopia. Good movie, but I mean...
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The Judy Hopps hive, that they they kind of move differently than K-pop fans. They move in a way that I do not want to get familiar with. Have you guys ever read the Zootopia abortion comic?
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No. Can't say I have. Have you? Yeah, actually have. It's pretty well made. What is it?
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It's so like... The fox knocks up the rabbit. And then she gets an abortion. And there's like an argument. And it was one of those things where I saw it referenced and I was like, I'm sorry, the what?
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And then I went and read it and I'm like, oh my God, like who made this? Does that happen in between Zootopia 1 and Zootopia 2? I haven't seen
Canceled Sequel to 'Plane'
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2, so i don't know if it's canon or not.
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I'm going to go out on a limb. I'm going to say it's not. Yeah, but you know how rabbits be moving. True. Kristen Bell has been cast as Amy Rose in Sonic 4. I'm not familiar with Sonic either. I've never played a Sonic game.
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It's the pink one. Really? The pink Sonic. Tachi, I thought you did like Sonic. I watched the first movie. It was good. Yeah, was fun. But you're never into the video games or anything like that? No, not Spyro either.
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Oh, I loved Spyro. It's like the same arrow. Alex, did you like Sonic? The Sonic video games? Yeah, i had fun with them. I never like played them religiously like I did Super Mario Galaxy, but I had fun with them.
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who Guess it's just you, Malik. Guess it is. That's all right. I'll be seated. Speaking of Sonic fans, ah do you guys remember the angry Sonic kid on YouTube in like 2009?
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Yeah, I remember the angry you wow kid. I remember that one too. That was that that the remote. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's the angry Sonic kid. He was like growling and stuff. What are you up to now?
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Was it like Sammy Sonic fan or something? I think I saw like he I saw him on TikTok not that long ago. I'm not mistaken, he had the glasses and everything. hope he's doing well.
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hope he's doing well too. Unlike plane to plane to his crashed.
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ah second plane has crashed Gerard Butler decided he didn't want to move forward with the film just two weeks before production began so well one that's awful yeah that it could just be scrapped two weeks before that's like jobs lost that's because he didn't want to move forward to that line came directly from the discussing film tweet it started with the plane to it has crashed great line Couldn't they just replace Gerard Butler and run plane too?
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No, he's like the whole, he's the heart of plane. I've never heard of plane in my life. You've never heard of plane? What's plane? Plane is a movie starring Gerard Butler and the guy who played Luke Cage in the Marvel series.
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And the plane crashes in the wilderness and there's guns and there's fighting and there's threats and there's love.
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oh So what happens in the sequel? Do they get on a plane and crash again? i don't know. We're never going to know now. how to I was ready. i would have watched it. I saw the first plane movie.
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the got If you guys got in a plane crash and lived, would you ever get on a plane again?
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Yeah, because, ah yeah, I have to I must. I could, yeah, i I think after ah like at least a few years, I'd be like, all right, we gotta, this stop me.
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Yeah. Surely it can happen again. Cause like statistically, i don't think it would. You die for sure. The second time yeah there'd be no way you'd survive the second, the second one.
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I would just keep like a squirrel suit on me at all times. Or for every flight, not at all times. Do you know how much aura I think you'd have if like you went down in a plane crash and lived?
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You like walked out of the wreckage like pushing sheet metal out of the way. I don't think it's aura. I think it's like survivor's guilt. I'm assuming you might be the only one. You'd horribly mangled the rest of your life.
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Saw some real bad stuff. Mocking everybody at the funeral. It was like emoting on them.
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it's It's not funny. Stop laughing.
Shia LaBeouf's Mardi Gras Arrest
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Go Alex. Your turn. Okay. um The new trailer for Lee Cronin's The Mummy has been released in theaters April 17th. Is this the one we talked about last time with Brandon Fraser?
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No. Is this like that same franchise or is this just like a movie about a mummy? This is just a movie about a mummy. This has nothing to do with the Brendan Fraser mummy. Okay.
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Cronin. It's a little too close to Cronenberg. she's on this know This is the guy who directed the latest Evil Dead movie, Evil Dead Rise.
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haven't seen it. Alex, did you watch that one? No. It was pretty cool. I liked it. Okay. So I will watch this. I watched the trailer for this and I was like, that looks fun. That looks like a good cast.
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I only know one person. Good cast. I know that guy. I've met him. um Alex, I think you should take this one.
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Yeah, you wanted this one. It's it's a big week for Shia LaBeouf. he He broke up with Mia Goth. Apparently that happened like a year ago. Yeah. um And he got arrested in New Orleans on during Mardi Gras for like fighting.
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And then he he, as soon as he got out jail, he went back to his ah bar crawl. Apparently, one bartender said he's been like an absolute menace. And then apparently he bought a house in New Orleans.
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Yeah, he's like terrorizing that city right now. he's He's on the loose. I saw a tweet that said, if I lost me a goth, I'd be doing the same exact thing.
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i i mean, i think as much as we can joke about it, it is sad because I do think he was trying to get sober. So he's like clearly spiraling. Yeah.
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But do you guys think Mia Goth is into guys who are scared of her?
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You? I'm terrified. Are you scared of Mia Goth? Dude, she kind of creeps me out, but in like But you want it.
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She's like one of those like scary ghost videos you used to watch in middle school and sleepovers. I can't watch it. can't watch it. and it's like, but you're interested. we got a lot. We have to watch. It's like 3 a.m. You're like, I need to see the truth about ghosts.
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It's like 144p and in Spanish. We should take a trip to New Orleans and give Shia a visit. We should. I love New Orleans. New Orleans one of my favorite cities ever. One of my favorite cities to visit in the US. And it's hell haunted.
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Super haunted. Super haunted. Dude, there's some crazy... Okay, so I was in a bachelor party last year and we did a ah haunted pub crawl as part of it before we went and got absolutely eliminated. Um...
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But like the whole time we're going around and this guy who talks like this and was chain smoking the whole time. and He had like skeleton makeup on him. Great guy. Love this guy. um He's telling these stories and I'm like, this is all stupid and made up. And I'd go and look it up and be like, oh my God, this happened. Like this is real. Yeah.
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It's like part of it is real. Yeah. I do not need to see any haunted place in that town. I'm okay. Why not? Are you scared of ghosts?
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i I'm not scared of ghosts. I just don't want anything to happen. So you believe?
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We went over this in our like Halloween month where I don't not not believe, but I also haven't had like an actual experience.
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but I'm not gonna seek it. I don't want an experience. That's valid. I don't need to know. You don't want it. I know. Like hearing you guys' are stories, that's why i was just like, oh, I don't really have a good story. Because you guys had legit stories.
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And I was like, I don't need any of that to happen to me. So I will avoid it if I can. But it's also super interesting and really cool. i have believe. we should start a ghost hunting show.
Introducing 'Nirvana the Band the Show the Movie'
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Okay. Tachi can be the outside guy. I'll i'll just schedule things. I'll schedule your flights. Didn't we say this like if we ever get to like 10,000? ten thousand Yeah, we're going to the ah Exorcist House in St. Louis.
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I'll keep my word on that. If we ever hit 10,000 subscribers or whatever, we can go for a couple hours. We don't have to stay the night. I'll quit. ah
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We should probably yeah lasting the news Please get well, Shia. Martin Scorsese is officially confirmed to be cast in The Mandalorian and Grogu. As actor?
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As a glup shido, yeah. He voices King Glup. What happened?
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They're announcing... like It's literally... Dude, I... so I loved The Clone Wars. like I love Star Wars. ah We've already been over this. They're just like pulling like old action figures out of the bag and so announcing them as being a part of Mandalorian and Grogu. Yeah.
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It's like, oh, Bebo is it's here. It's like, okay, he was cool in like the one Clone Wars arc that he was in. Like, I don't want him in this movie. is Is this going to be like the worst? but Oh, and they they put baby, there's like a baby Greedo now. Oh, yeah. What are we doing?
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It's over. I didn't think it could get worse and it's only gotten worse. It could always get worse. The movie hasn't even come out yet. and i It's probably going to be like a one star. We're going to do an episode on it. We are going to do it. It's such a good episode. on Did you guys watch any of The Mandalorian?
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I've seen all of it. First two seasons. I've only seen the first season. Third season's horrid. I've heard. It's just pointless and stupid. Will I have to watch it before the movie to understand? Yeah, because the second season... Well, have you seen the second season?
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I don't think so. I think it was literally just the first season that I watched. oh Yeah, you you're probably going to have to. And it's it's slop. like this the The first two seasons are really good, and the way the second season ends, it's perfect.
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And then they immediately retcon it in the Book of Boba Fett and are like, ha ha, buy toys. All right. Well, that day is not today to talk about the Mandalorian and Grogu. Today we're talking about Nirvana, the band, the show, the movie.
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I will read the synopsis and then we'll get into our letterbox love like loathe. This movie was released last weekend. um The synopsis reads, when their plan to book a show at the Rivoli goes horribly wrong, Matt and Jay accidentally travel back to the year 2008, blah, blah, blah.
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And this stars Matt Johnson and Jay McCarroll. It does say blah, blah, blah, by the way. Yep. For our Letterboxd Dove Like Loathe, I have our five star. Alex has the three.
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And Tachi has the one. Yep. Here's a five star and a heart written by zach Says in quotes, if you got a best friend, you won't even notice getting older.
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Lightning in a bottle is a phrase used in this movie a few times, and I can think of no more accurate descriptor. This is, without a doubt, one of the best theater experiences I've had in a very long time. Not only is it the funniest comedy since Black Dynamite, it is also a remarkably creative, boundary-pushing work of cinematic genius that its mere existence is nearly incomprehensible.
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Okay, let's pump the brakes. ah Three star. Three star.
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Don't know who these guys are or what the backstory is here. Solid gag though. That was from Carter Pop. Carter Pop. This half star review comes in from Admiral Donuts.
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He's a pro. I was suffering from temporary blindness, so I had my friend come to the theater with me and describe the movie, but we got kicked out. Very unconsiderate of the staff considering my condition.
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Huh? That's so funny. Like, if that's a bit, that's so funny. I feel like that's, like, part of the movie.
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I hope so. All right. I have a couple extra one stars that I wanted to read before we get into the movie. going say, I believe you have some extracurriculars for us. I do. All right. Yes. This first one i thought was just ridiculous.
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It one star and a heart. Yeah, once again, another Hollywood blockbuster that has an all-white cast only and refuses to let any person of color star in any meaningful
Extreme Letterboxd Reviews & Theater Walkouts
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roles. Insanely racist and backwards-thinking film.
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For shame. Is that real? um Their username is Ding Dong. I don't
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I found their profile. Their favorites are kind of reasonable. What do they have as their top four? Silver Linings Playbook, The Good, The Bad, and Ugly, Deadpool, and Sonic the Hedgehog in the movie from 1996. Let's go.
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right, here's two more. Kim Jong-un has always been right. The only thing Canada ever invented worth keeping is basketball. Did he say that? I don't know.
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i don't know either. right, now. I wanted to bring this one up. The review isn't bad, but it took the liberty to go on this person's profile, and i'm not go um we're not going dox anybody.
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And i just I just wanted to comment on it because i just they it this just seems like a person who just does not like movies. So whenever I see it, I'm like, what are you what are you doing on the movie app?
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I think you hate movies. Why are you watching them? ah It says, the review says, excruciating. Second theater walkout of 2026. What was the first? And that piqued my interest. I was like, we are halfway through February. We're a month and a half in You're walking out of the theater this often?
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Who's walking out of the theater? Theater is expensive. It is expensive. Here was their first walkout. It was a one star of the moment.
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Whiny, insufferable crap. First theater walkout of 2026 arm flex emoji. That actually seems reasonable. A little bit more reasonable, sure.
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But out 1,200 movies, they only have 16 that are rated five stars. Their curve is so... sit
00:24:59
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If you're wondering what we're reacting to, we said we wouldn't tox this person, but Tashi just found them and accidentally followed them.
Humorous Encounter with a Harsh Critic
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There's going to be quite a trail coming back to this episode.
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ah Before we started recording, I was looking at the profile on the Lost in the Frame letterbox, by the way, follow us, and I accidentally hearted one of their old reviews, but immediately took it back.
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Oh, man, I'm embarrassed. My cheeks are burning up. Oh. Oh, brother. We're cooked. They're to find us. All right, let's just keep going. I mean, like, what?
00:25:42
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well You said they had 16 movies not rated one star? 16 movies out of 1,200 ratings they have. are five stars Okay, but I have like 30.
00:25:54
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No, no, no. I don't even have that many. think i have like 20. Okay, here. Maybe this is a better stat. Out of the 1,200 movies they've rated, less than about 100 are four stars or higher.
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It's just a very low like curve. They're hard to please. Yeah. like Every single rating I'm looking, at this is like a one, one and a half, two, two, one, one, one, two.
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What have they given? like What have they rated? say Hit me with some egregious ones. Okay. ah The Bone Temple, one star. Oh, boo. um Housemaid, one star. Okay.
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The Smashing Machine, one star. What do they love? Marty Supreme, one star. Okay. What do they like? What do they like? Here are their five stars.
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ah The original Ghostbusters. oh Rear Window. Okay. um Little Shop of Horrors. All right. Rear Window. Did I say that already? Yes. yeah twin Twin Peaks.
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Pain and Gain. Dude. This guy knows Paul.
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And the clue from 1985 are few. Keep going. i want I want to know more. You can't just drop Pain and Gain in there and not like go for the rest of them. Some movie called The Celebration. Uh-huh.
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Boogie Nights. Pretty good. Dancer in the Dark. I haven't seen it. The original Naked Gun. Airplane. The Day Trippers.
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I gotta go follow this guy. It's just... I mean, what an eclectic taste. It's crazy, right? You're hating some stuff, and then like you're liking... I mean... I just thought it was a really interesting profile. Yeah, it's super. I want to get to that. Let's have one on the pod.
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We will not talk you here, but we'll reach out personally to get you on the podcast. I can't wait till Letterboxd has a DM feature. I think it'll destroy the app.
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I think that'll be the end of days for the for the app known as Letterboxd. The end of days is when it does like the dating thing that people keep asking
Daring Stunt in 'Nirvana the Band the Show the Movie'
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for. The dating thing? Isn't that like a gateway? Isn't the DMs like a gateway into the dating thing? But people keep asking for like, oh, like, match me up with someone makes my movie taste. Oh. Oh.
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You got be like down horrific to want to meet somebody on Letterboxd. It's no different than the other ones, I feel. There's more of a niche interest.
00:28:32
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I think it could work. Maybe. Guys, let's get back to Nirvana. I forgot what we were doing. I did too. I'll start with this.
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Do guys have any history with Nirvana the band the show? None. Did you know about them before? Nope. None. Same. Apparently it's very Canadian. it I can't figure that much.
00:28:57
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What's funny is my parents actually are in Toronto as of today. Oh. Funny coincidence. They can yeah they can go to the Tower. Yeah they can skydive. That was a terrifying sequence. That was awesome.
00:29:08
Speaker
Oh my god. Was that real? them i don't know if them jumping off was real, but them filming and being up there like on the CN Tower was real without like the permits.
00:29:23
Speaker
And like the getting in with the pliers and them not noticing like the parachutes on their back. Like that was real. The original plan that I saw was that they originally planned that scene to get kicked out and that was going to be the scene.
00:29:37
Speaker
And they didn't. So they kept going. Dude, the the CN Tower people have to be fuming at this movie release. Would you guys ever do that? Would you do that walk?
00:29:48
Speaker
I don't know. I think I'd do the walk. I don't think I'd do the thing where you like hang off. Yeah. Same. Oh my God. I don't think I would do the walk. That was, that was terrifying. That was the scariest part of the movie.
00:30:02
Speaker
What's the highest up you've ever been? In a Where it was like, ooh, I could, this this this would be bad if I fell. I don't think I've ever put myself in a situation like that. There was like one of those um like yo-yo rides in Florida and apparently was like the tallest one in America.
00:30:21
Speaker
It was just like at some like shopping plaza. um We went on that and it was really scary.
00:30:30
Speaker
I don't know if you guys know what um Angel's Landing is inside National Park, but i've done that and that was pretty crazy. Really insane hike. What about you? i think the edge of the Grand Canyon.
00:30:42
Speaker
edge yeah you like stood there my knees are literally like ah like weak right I'd have to crawl to the edge yeah barely peep over I was also in like middle school so I probably thought like ah I'm indestructible
00:30:57
Speaker
anyways what did you guys think of this movie I don't know you don't know still I don't know what I think about it it's just like it was kind of like a fever dream uh-huh and I just was like What?
00:31:12
Speaker
Like the whole time, you know? What the? Wow. Tachi? I loved it. I had a really awesome time. Yeah. Even though I was sitting alone. Yeah, i know. I wish you were sitting next to us. That's okay. um No, I really, really enjoyed this movie. It it touched me.
00:31:28
Speaker
Did it really? Yeah. i thought it was really special. I also really enjoyed this movie. I was hooting and hollering in my seat. It felt like... It felt like a cartoon. It felt like a live action cartoon for its entire runtime.
00:31:43
Speaker
And I'm very interested to find out more about these boys. They have piqued my interest. And we had a great audience with us. It was really good. Yeah.
00:31:54
Speaker
Yeah. Highly recommend seeing this movie in a full theater if you can. Yeah. That was sick. Because I feel like the jokes were were hitting like...
00:32:06
Speaker
Everybody was in on it. Yeah. Yeah. So, and yeah, I also knew nothing about Nirvana, the
Innovative Filmmaking Praises
00:32:11
Speaker
band, the show. The first time I had heard of it was it had its premiere here in Austin last year.
00:32:18
Speaker
At South by and I heard it had been getting like great reviews like every festival it had been to after that. It was just getting like great reviews. It was like a lot of people's like favorites after like a festival.
00:32:29
Speaker
And so that was all I knew going into it. I know Matt Johnson from his previous work on the Blackberry movie, which I really enjoyed. And I just didn't look up more about Matt Johnson after that, but um he seemed like a funny dude.
00:32:47
Speaker
After I watched the Blackberry movie, there was some video he did on YouTube with Letterboxd where he was roasting people's profiles similar to how we just did. Instead of like going through the Blackberry good reviews and being like, oh, thank you. Thank you. He went through all the like two star and one star reviews and then would go on their profiles and legit just roast them. So that was like my first ah experience with Matt Johnson.
00:33:10
Speaker
I was going to I didn't know he was director of BlackBerry until about an hour ago. So that was pretty neat. I thought this was like his first foray into, I guess, a bigger bigger scope. Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:21
Speaker
So, yeah, I mean, one of the things that I wanted to call because I found out today because i was listening to the like the songs used in the soundtrack, that song that Jay was playing when he became big.
00:33:32
Speaker
Yeah, it's like actually his song. And it's like on a real band that he's in like a duo with. What is the name of the band? Oh, God. ne i like I want to do some more digging into them, but do are they both musicians? Brave Shores. Brave Shores. Okay. This song is called Never Come Down. doo do doooo do do do do do do do do do Alex, what doesn't work for you in this movie?
Back to the Future References
00:34:00
Speaker
like ah just I I feel like there was a lot of plot, and I feel like there maybe shouldn't have been. Because when this movie is humming, it's really going. and Like, bursts out laughing.
00:34:12
Speaker
But there was a lot of time in between where I'm like, okay, like, let's, I get it. Like, I feel like the movie was like very light on plot. And the plot that it did have, obviously, was like banking on knowledge of Back to the Future. That's how I felt. like I think they had a very simple premise. Like, oh, we want to play at this place.
00:34:33
Speaker
We don't really know what they were going to play other than like the opening like five minutes, like just like the little intro he does. like Other than that, like I don't really know like what their full goal was.
00:34:45
Speaker
And then it just turns into that meets Back to the Future for half the movie. Which I'm like, are they allowed to reference this movie that much? Well, I think it was part of the bit was like the whole thing is like, we're going just going to do it and ask for forgiveness. Yeah.
00:35:01
Speaker
And hopefully that they don't get sued. Yeah. Yeah. Which is so funny. It's such a good bit. The whole thing just felt like a really long bit that even though we don't know any of the lore of the YouTube web series, like I feel like we get the gist of their humor and their friendship.
00:35:21
Speaker
And I'm sure like knowing the lore makes it that much better. But like I had a really good time with it, and I really like it. I knew nothing about these guys. so I can only imagine what it's like knowing the lore going into it.
00:35:33
Speaker
And going back to their set for a second, I have 100% faith that they didn't have a set. And I think they only had that one song. They're just going to improvise for the rest of the time. They gave us no inclination that they had any other song ready yeah perform. Yeah.
00:35:51
Speaker
But they would have figured it out. I think so. would have loved to see what they would have performed. Same. ah You had mentioned that this was heartwarming. What was, what touched you about this?
Themes of Friendship & Regret
00:36:00
Speaker
It just made me really want to live without regrets and just hang out with my friends and have fun.
00:36:09
Speaker
i don't know, not take things too seriously. Made me cherish my friendships. i I... think you should take gun safety seriously. wow That's a good point.
00:36:23
Speaker
That's a really good point. What were you saying though? Continue. home I... Oh yeah, I was just going to say I feel like in the last year or two I've been trying to make more of a concerted effort to like water the grass where I want to grow it or something.
00:36:40
Speaker
But basically just like try and... foster my my friendships put more effort into talking to people and hanging out with them and i don't know so i guess this movie just came at a good time That's sweet.
00:36:53
Speaker
I think it hit for me for some of those same beats too. Like the review that I was reading, it's like you you can't you won't be able to tell you're getting old like with your if you have like your best friend. like That was so sweet.
00:37:05
Speaker
Yeah. And I think the movie, though funny, can be endearing in the couple of times when it wants to be. And I think it really worked. see You're saying all this and you're moving.
00:37:19
Speaker
That doesn't mean I don't love you guys. I think it says something loud and
00:37:27
Speaker
You're right. I'm trying to get away from you. I cannot be near. 45 minutes is too close for me you. That's way too close for me. You're going to be in California thinking you're safe, and then you're going to wake up one night and be like, he's getting closer.
00:37:46
Speaker
I can feel him. up in like new mexico Alex is your it follows like entity. He's my AIDS allegory.
00:38:10
Speaker
I'm going to... Oh, my God. going to see if I can work that into the next date I go on. Please let me know if you can. Someone's AIDS allegory.
Budget Success and Creative Storytelling
00:38:21
Speaker
What? this This movie had a budget of $2 million. dollars Really? Yeah, $2 million. So pretty low. That's higher than I expected. Higher than I expected, too. But, I mean, i don't know what goes into all this.
00:38:36
Speaker
um As of today, it is so far made $1.5 million. So not bad. Yeah. I think this movie is going to have legs. I think people are going to want to watch it multiple times.
00:38:50
Speaker
And I think it's going to do very well. I'm on board. Because I would go watch this again in theaters. Me too. I don't think Alex will though. i it I very rarely we rewatch something in theaters.
00:39:02
Speaker
Like. Very. yeah i I actually don't think I've ever done it. Ever? There's just other stuff to go see. There's so much to see, but there's also so much I want to rewatch.
00:39:14
Speaker
Usually the rewatches are for at home, though. Yeah. Like, I'll rewatch within a year. Like, I saw won Battle twice last year. I'm kind of pissed that the movie I watched the most last year was Sinners.
00:39:26
Speaker
you You put that on yourself, dude. I didn't. You're going rewatch it a fourth time and put it back down to three and a Yeah, yeah be like, you know what? I was right the first time. I lied.
00:39:38
Speaker
um What are some of our favorite bits? from this movie. There's a lot. This movie's jam-packed with them. It's like almost all bits. It's hard to pick. There's one specific bit that I really loved.
00:39:53
Speaker
Oh, one just came to mind. What's yours? It's when they cut to white and black, or black and white. And it's like a totally different memory.
00:40:05
Speaker
That was mine. It was yeah it was the look back. Black and white. It'd be in slow-mo. And then there would just be like added dialogue. That gave the scene more context. I wrote a few of them down. Um...
00:40:22
Speaker
The first one, i don't know if this this is this happens like in order, but the first one I had written down was, you're going to wake him up. It's when they look back and he's standing on the couch and he's like, don't be quiet. He's like, shh, you're going to wake him up. And in slow motion, he starts jumping on the couch like, you're going to wake him up.
Memorable Comedic Bits Highlighted
00:40:41
Speaker
I loved how he realized that it was 2008 in the movie theater. With the hangover. Yeah.
00:40:51
Speaker
the way everyone he's like everyone's laughing at it like it's the first time they're seeing and he's just a goof the hangover came out in 2009 whoa but it's okay i think you got the point across um another black and white i liked was ah why would you want to go back two days in time he's like spilled wine on my parents might have killed someone
00:41:22
Speaker
and That was awesome. And then the last one I have is when Matt goes to meet Jay at the meet and greet. boy that will look back And he has him with his shirt. He's like, you're going to rip my shirt.
00:41:39
Speaker
That's good stuff. That's rich. Oh, those had me. Those had me dying. And then obviously, spoiler, if you haven't seen the movie yet. The gun.
00:41:50
Speaker
So good. Funniest bit of the whole movie. The theater was like loud. Yeah, they died. The long ass cable. Was that real?
00:42:01
Speaker
No, there's no way. Pardon of me He wanted to feel like it was real. And I at least parts of it. Yeah. by no By the electric box, it definitely wasn't. I totally get what you mean.
00:42:13
Speaker
And like I'm watching it. I'm like, OK, there's no way it's real. But I'm like the fact that I'm having these thoughts. Right. I'm like. Similar to like the Revenant where we're like, this is movies. On like the other side of that coin, like this is movies to me.
00:42:26
Speaker
I'm like, oh shit, like how are they doing this? right Are they allowed to do this? It's that for an hour and a half. And I think for that mere fact is why I really appreciated it That sentiment is like what I felt a lot in the second half with the time travel stuff and how they were weaving the old footage with the new footage.
00:42:44
Speaker
That was so cool. Was so cool. I love that. So it was a bunch of footage that they originally shot 17 years ago and like put themselves present day in that footage and just like had it like match and work was just really, really cool.
00:43:01
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, there were long sequences too. They were. The room, the street. I wonder what that planning was. I don't know.
00:43:13
Speaker
I think it was probably just going to be for just like a normal video that they're like going to do in the future. Like, oh, we'll do like a like ah like a time jump episode. that This is them talking like 17 years ago. And then eventually just incorporated that into the script of the mo movie.
00:43:28
Speaker
But it worked very well. Yeah. It was very well done. For sure. So stupid though. When he jumped on the bus after parachuting down the second time, uha how did they do that? Was he just waiting on like the, the bench cover on the side of the road, jumps on the bus to make the loud sound jumps off.
00:43:51
Speaker
Probably. Yeah, I think that's exactly what they did. I was watching an interview right before we started recording. And the interviewer asked him, like, what was the scariest part of filming this?
00:44:03
Speaker
And that was the scene he had pointed out was because there was no other way to do it. And they didn't know who to ask. and they werere like, we just have to do it. They said it was during the night of a Taylor Swift concert. So the streets were like empty.
00:44:15
Speaker
And he just kept... doing exactly what you said, jumping on the streetcar and then jumping the other way and then jumping down. And they just had to get that for like hours until like they got it right. And luckily they didn't get caught doing it constantly for a few hours.
00:44:30
Speaker
But yeah, that's exactly how they did it. Okay. That's incredible. It seems like that's the entire web series too. It's a little bit of plot incorporated with like quote unquote pranks in the public.
00:44:44
Speaker
Does it win best stunt at the Oscars in 20 next year? Isn't that's a new category we're getting, right? Yep. Ooh, that'd be cool. Landing on the top of a moving thing.
00:44:56
Speaker
I want to know if anyone actually jumped from the needle. Sure. Somebody has. That seems terrifying. Not for me. You should jump from the needle.
00:45:07
Speaker
your stuff Actually, it's the CN Tower, not the Needle. The Needle CN Tower. yes yeah know Sorry, sorry. You will be. The Canadians are coming for you now.
00:45:19
Speaker
What was the whole thing with the mansion that you sent earlier? Oh, okay. So the scene in the movie of Jay shooting one of his crewmates.
00:45:32
Speaker
Was like intercut with real footage of a crime that happened in Toronto. But it was at Drake's house. and Drake, the Canadian rapper.
00:45:44
Speaker
there I think there was like an actual shooting. And Matt was saying that they saw it on the news and they were like a few minutes away. And so they rushed there to try to get like...
00:45:58
Speaker
real footage of of like the news crew happening. yeah And he yes, in real life, they showed up in the background of like an actual newscast, camera in hand, and Jay like walking around. but That's awesome.
00:46:10
Speaker
Yeah, so it wass like technically that's that's BTS right there. That's so funny. I like the score. i was paying attention this time. Score's good. Yeah.
00:46:22
Speaker
Real good. We had a couple seconds of the Back to the Future theme. I really want to know what's going to happen with that. It's probably just enough to not get a copyright strike. It was on and then it was off. And I was like, that's so funny.
00:46:35
Speaker
He looks at the camera. He's like, if you're watching this in a theater, like it might be one of the last times. The special effects were working for me too. The light, the lightning crackle on the windshield.
00:46:46
Speaker
Yeah. was pretty clean. That looked good. um I like the effects they used to make it 2008 as well as the future. We had Jay in place of Chris Rock during one of our favorite
Nostalgia for Retro Drinks
00:46:59
Speaker
moments ever. Richard. He says, uh-oh, Richard.
00:47:03
Speaker
zip I couldn't believe that actually happened. Uh-oh. We had an Anthony Fantano cameo. Apparently the second cameo this month.
00:47:16
Speaker
Because he for a moment. Oh, he's busy. No way. Yeah. Wow. Do you guys want to try orbs? Orbs? Orbits? Whatever it was called. Orbits? Yeah. I haven't had them.
00:47:28
Speaker
Well, not anything. Tosh, you haven't had them before? No. I haven't heard of them. Oh. Wait, you have had it before? You've had the drink before? had before. The drink.
00:47:39
Speaker
The drink. Where? with the beads in it. Yeah. Well, it was like a boba. Oh.
00:47:48
Speaker
Boba doesn't count. but It was similar to Boba. Oh. Like, I remember them being around, because I think they were right where they did stop making them in 99. So I was like four.
00:47:59
Speaker
That's like, and it was a sugary drink. of my As my stuff as a four-year-old, I'm like, yeah, give me that. I want that. We're at the grocery store. what i Would I try one now, one that is 27 years old? No.
00:48:12
Speaker
Could that, like, damage you, do you think? Probably. Most likely. Let me see if they have any on eBay. Orbit. Oh, that looks so bad. There are two unopened for $120 on Etsy. Those are probably going to shoot up in price because of ah The stuff.
00:48:34
Speaker
Do you think so? The movie, baby. Probably. least a little bit. as a Reddit thread. Someone found an unopened Orbitz drink at Goodwill. Oh my gosh. That's crazy. I didn't know Goodwill carried food.
00:48:47
Speaker
Never get food from Goodwill. How do we feel about this being number 92 in the Letterboxd Top 250? That is insane. Okay. But let's let's let zoom out. No, no, no, no, no. no no no What your five star review said was absurd. Like, I'm going to be real here. I'm not like a snobby person.
00:49:07
Speaker
I got some very like air quotes, bad movies that are highly rated on Letterboxd. OK, this is not groundbreaking.
00:49:18
Speaker
This is like saying literature is back and you're waving around a Colleen Hoover novel.
00:49:28
Speaker
i'm I'm dead serious. I know you are Look, this is a fun movie. It's funny. I laughed. i had a good time with it. It's very well made for what it it is. But I think to be like a great film, there needs to be like there's like a level. There's levels to this, you know?
00:49:46
Speaker
And so to go like on the written record and be like, this movie is on that level. uhuh It is up there with, you know, your like andre tarkovsky movies your nolan's your uh you know akira kurosawa is like what is like who are you trying to fool now well i do think your feelings are valid someone is going to crucify me for saying nolan next to kurosawa and tarkovsky but well i do think you have valid feelings
00:50:22
Speaker
Do you think the majority of people that are giving this five stars are just giving it five
Ranking Debate on Letterboxd
00:50:27
Speaker
stars out of enjoyment, which is correct. That is how you should rate a movie off of your personal enjoyment.
00:50:33
Speaker
And it seems like people love to hoot and holler in a movie theater with some talent behind the camera.
00:50:43
Speaker
Could equate to a five star. It's not. groundbreaking Yes, I agree with you. But I think what it does right... But I'm specifically addressing what that guy said.
00:50:56
Speaker
Okay. If we're addressing what that guy said, sure. But I don't think I'm surprised seeing it end up that quick in the Letterboxd Top 250 because... it it It is also, i will say, it's going to fall out fast.
00:51:10
Speaker
Like, there's no way it it stays that high that long. Like, Sinners debuted really high, and I think Sinners is...
00:51:19
Speaker
middle of the pack bottom now on it where do you see the letterbox top 250. so you go on the list that says top 250. oh thank you okay top 250 narrative the featured list yeah if you go on like a movie and then scroll down it'll say their place if it's on the list it's now number 92.
00:51:40
Speaker
that's what That's what I said today. Oh, I thought you said 97. I said two. Because, you know, maybe if you cared about me, you would listen. I do care about you. Okay, look. Number 250. The curve, the rating curve is 4.2.
00:51:54
Speaker
So you just have to stay above 4.2.
00:51:58
Speaker
Which for this movie, I don't think that's impossible. Same. I think the average rating would be like a four. To get a little meta, let the way Letterboxd does their algorithm...
00:52:10
Speaker
It's weird. Like how, like, cause there are some movies that are like, there's a couple of Brazilian movies that are really, really highly rated, but they're lower on the list because their five star ratings are weighed less.
00:52:24
Speaker
Cause they, for a while they were, there was like three Brazilian movies in the top 10 and none of them were city of God. It was like central station or central station, a dog's will. And like one other, I think.
00:52:35
Speaker
but no one outside of Brazil had seen them. And so Letterboxd changed some geographic rule to where like if it's only from one spot, then it de-weights it, I think. It's never been like released, but this is what people thought because it was a big deal because there were some purists who were like, look,
00:53:00
Speaker
If Central Station and Dog's Wheel are rated that high, then they should be that high. It doesn't matter if it was all from Brazil.
00:53:11
Speaker
That was their argument. I see both sides to it. I see both sides. So I think so. Just like rating and then just amount of people. Yeah. Which makes sense because like our short film has like five reviews and they're all five stars. i mean, we're the number one movie on Letterboxd. It's like a perfect five. So by that logic, we should be the number one on this top 250 list.
00:53:32
Speaker
So, I mean, but here's my point. Let me list some of the movies that are around this movie in
Film History Comparison
00:53:42
Speaker
this list. and Okay.
00:53:43
Speaker
Does it really like, what is the sore thumb?
00:53:50
Speaker
Wong Kar Wai is in the mood for love.
00:53:54
Speaker
Dune Part 2 is 85. Paris, Texas is 87. Good Will Hunting is 89. Old Boy is 93.
00:54:04
Speaker
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is 95. Seven is 96. Rear Window is 97. And Glorious Bastards is 100. At 92 is Nirvana the band that showed the movie.
00:54:18
Speaker
As it should be. So these are more flaws within i think just the rating system of Letterboxd.
00:54:29
Speaker
Because I think most people would agree they're just like okay no like on a technical level this is not near 7. seven This is not near Good Will Hunting. It's not like a classic like that. This is not Old Boy. This is not Paris, Texas.
00:54:45
Speaker
yeah you I don't know. you just there's There's no right way to do it. And there will never be a right way to do it. Actually,
00:54:56
Speaker
there is a right way, and it's my way. What is your way? Whatever I like is a great movie, and whatever isn't is slop. All their opinions aren't valid.
00:55:08
Speaker
You need to never be in a position of power. Dude, you guys would... love if I was in power. You would love it. Maybe other people wouldn't, but I think you would enjoy it. I else would.
00:55:24
Speaker
Would we? You would enjoy it, yeah. And Tachi? Yeah. Why not Tachi? What's wrong with Tachi? No, I'm saying we are going to enjoy it, like both of us. Just us two?
00:55:35
Speaker
No, I mean a lot of people would enjoy it. What are we talking about? Him being in power. But what kind of power? Like... he controls the academy or like the
Greek Mythology Tangent
00:55:45
Speaker
president? Like unlimited power! like roof Emperor works. Yeah. yeah yeah okay God, if I had the force. I didn't
00:55:59
Speaker
want to know what you would do. I'd i'd fix things. Starting with Letterboxd. I thought you were starting with the younglings. They gotta go, dude.
00:56:14
Speaker
Well, I had a great time with this movie. I had a good time too. that's I'm not saying this movie's not a good time. But my point is, is like, look, I think there has to be some sort of like objectionable, like, or objective greatness that we should strive for as people in art.
00:56:37
Speaker
Because if you just are like, I enjoyed this, this is the best. then that's how we end up with, well, what we have now. True. So we're trying to diagnose a much larger problem here. Because I agree with you. I think that I can fully enjoy a movie the way i did this one and then not give as glowing a review as that first review we read was.
00:57:00
Speaker
So are both of you of the opinion that, like, the... Let's say they're talking about the editing. It's like this, you know... unbelievable achievement would you disagree well not disagree that is unbelievable but like great like if we're if you break like your question is if we break down like the technical aspects of the film does what we still constitute it as great right oh and some things maybe not great but like good
00:57:35
Speaker
Above average for what it is, certainly. yeah It's really good for what it is. But in the context of like... All movies? Yeah. Yeah, makes sense. like I thought the VFX work was really good.
00:57:48
Speaker
It was seamless. The cinematography for what it is, for being part of the bit, I really appreciate. He says, oh, we can't go out there. we look Look at the cameras. The looks like he's from the the fucking Matrix. is god He's got to use an old camera. And that's the way to like get them to use the old footage. I think that's great. I love that.
00:58:09
Speaker
i don't know. yeah I guess the context thats the the context of the conversation, I guess, matters. Got it. So then are we ready for scores? I'm ready. I'm going to give this a four. I'm going to go with five.
00:58:23
Speaker
whoa, let's go. Touching the whole time Alex is talking, it just like, um... Kinda. That is the second most surprising thing fired from the chamber in the 48 it's It's not... Kind of like what you guys saying, this is not ah a cinema movie.
00:58:49
Speaker
It's just a movie that really... happened don't know just having to make an impact on me yeah at the time that i'm watching it and it just <unk>t know made me feel really good i get it and i could easily re-watch this movie yeah re-watchability is a huge part of the five score and i think this uh this is definitely be we re-watched I think it's very possible I go back to the theaters to watch this soon.
00:59:17
Speaker
Alex. We all have these movies where it's just for some reason we love them. Snack Shack is that for me where it's like there's no reason I i should think it's that good.
00:59:28
Speaker
Like Snack Shack rips. It does. And I really enjoyed Nirvana the band the show the movie. I laughed. I liked it. I had a good time. Three out of five.
00:59:42
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Wow. Wow. Drinking that haterade. It is just one of those movies. And then they went on their separate ways and never talked again. Yeah, quick announcement. I'm also moving.
00:59:58
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Wow, so we have 3, 4, 5. That is kind of surprising. Yeah. A wider range than I expecting. Than normal. Yeah. But I think that's good.
01:00:09
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I think that's good for the brand. yeah This is healthy. This is healthy. We need to fight more. We need to have personas. like you know, I'm the cool, handsome guy.
01:00:25
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I'm not laughing because that's not true. It is. But, like, that's all of us. We can't all be the cool, handsome so guy. you one One of us has to be the coolest and the handsomest.
01:00:38
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it so so so What's the Greek myth? Who's the guy? It's the print Paris with Athena ah Hera and Aphrodite.
01:00:50
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It's like which one of us is the most beautiful? And then like at the end Paris gets turned like a new or something. Because he didn't choose? He chose wrong I think.
01:01:00
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So there is a right answer then. what Let me, okay. Hey, listener, leave it in the comments. Who is the most coolest and who is the most handsome? Go look at our Instagram. I call tallest.
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you You call being the tallest? yeah Yeah. Unfortunately, enough that's not how that works.
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I'm officially the tallest member of Austin. Congratulations. Thank you. That's awesome. We will not reveal who is actually the tallest. There's not definitive proof on an Instagram.
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oh Yeah, there's not.
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Oh, wait a minute. Yes. Is Paris the same guy who kicks off the Trojan War? Yes. I don't know. Yes. Yeah. hes Am I even thinking of the right guy and the right myth? No, that that's gotta be wrong. Okay.
01:01:54
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Hera, Aphrodite, Athena, myth. Yeah. Paris steals Helen of Troy. Paris kills Helen of Troy. look Okay. No, that's li okay. So that's what happens. That's how it ends. He takes her from Greece to Troy.
01:02:12
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And then what Alex? The Judgment of Paris is a story from Greek mythology, which is one of the events that led to the Trojan War and in later versions, the foundation of Rome. Eris, the goddess of discord, was not invited to the wedding of Peleus and Thetis.
01:02:27
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In revenge, she brought a golden apple inscribed to the fairest one, which she threw into the wedding. Three guests, Hera, Athena, and Aphrodite, after some disputation, agreed to have Paris of Troy choose the fairest one. Paris chose Aphrodite, she having bribed him with the most beautiful mortal woman in the world, Helen of Sparta, wife of Menelaus.
01:02:52
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Consequently, Paris carried Helen off to Troy, and the Greeks invaded Troy for Helen's return. Spoiler for the Odyssey. I was to so I do need to read the Iliad before I read the Odyssey. You need to read the Iliad, dude. I said that last night, and I'm going say it again. You got to read the Iliad. right, fine. got to read the Odyssey and the Iliad. got to read them together.
01:03:10
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They are the foundation for basically everything we talked about. I'll go to Barnes & Noble tomorrow and get the Iliad. Every week we talk about something that was basically founded on the Iliad. Now, I think Gilgamesh predates the Iliad and the Odyssey, but it's like one of the seminal texts. All my homies hate Gilgamesh.
01:03:32
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Why? I don't know. do We're anti-Gilgamesh over here. That's nice. Well, that was a beautiful way to end our Nirvana episode.
01:03:43
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Wait, which one's first? The Iliad or the yeah the Odyssey? The Iliad. The Iliad is the Trojan War and the Odyssey is Odysseus coming home from the Trojan War. Got it. Okay. and We're doing some pre-work before the Odyssey.
01:03:55
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I can't believe you haven't read it. I've read it, but I read it in high school. That doesn't count. And i wait I also think it doesn't count. And that's why i was just like, oh, you know what? i want to read the Odyssey before the Odyssey. But i was like, I don't know if I need to read the Iliad. And then I told you that. And then you said, you idiot.
01:04:10
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You do need to read it. And then now you're doing it again, but publicly. So I will. It's like watching Empire Strikes Back without having watched A New Hope. Still a good movie.
01:04:22
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It's great movie. You just don't get the references. Luke, I am your father. Who's Luke? Who's that guy? That guy's black.
01:04:34
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Anyway, go watch Nirvana the Band, the show of the movie. I'm sure you have. Go watch it a second time. Anything else from you guys? Rate how you wish...
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to rate it with your heart rate how tall you think i am put in the comments how tall is tachi i'm the tallest here six seven all right thank you so much for listening have a good night goodbye bye