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Lost In The Revenant
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This week, in celebration of Tachi's birthday, he chose for us to revisit 2015s The Revenant. Join us as we take a look back at the film that earned Leo his first Oscar!
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Introduction and Birthday Banter
00:00:16
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I think it's confirmed by science that Leonardo DiCaprio suffered more mortal wounds in this movie than the birthdays his girlfriend has celebrated. Welcome to the Lost in the Frame podcast.
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I'm your host Tachi. I'm your host Malik. I'm your host Alex. This is our first birthday episode. wrong sound. I forgot which one was the clock.
00:00:40
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Maybe it's just a reveal. Whose birthday is it? It's mine. It's me. Money? Happy birthday. Thank you. Introing your own birthday episode is crazy. with that yeah that was that was brave that was risky you're too old for leo by the way you wouldn't i really am yeah way out of his range do you know don't know if you want to say it out loud but like how old are you turning you can just like you can throw up hand signals throw up gang signs i just want to make sure uh-huh got it how does that feel i'm 30 or i'm gonna 32
00:01:16
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Wow. Yeah. That is crazy. It's not great. I'm on the wrong side of 30, but it's okay. I don't think you're on the wrong side of 30. I'm figuring it out.
00:01:29
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You're right. you're right. This is going to my year. Yeah. You're a good looking guy who's who's fit, who can bench more than 225.
00:01:38
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Yes, one day. All of that true.
Upcoming Movies and Series
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All right, um let's get into movie news before we get into today's episode. Crime 101 debuts with 100% on Rotten Tomatoes, the highest rating for a crime thriller this decade.
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Are you guys aware of Crime 101? Why wasn't 101%? Boom. questions.
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you're asking the right questions I am aware of it. i'm i'm I'm excited for it. I wouldn't say it looks like groundbreaking. It's not going to be heat. Yeah. but looks fun. Still haven't seen heat. What and who is it?
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It's a new crime thriller that's apparently at 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. Okay. It's starring Chris Hemsworth, Monica Barbaro, Barry Keoghan, Halle Berry, and Mark Ruffalo.
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um A Los Angeles detective pursues an elusive thief who teams up with an insurance broker for one last heist. o What'd they do? Raise my rates again? Boom.
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Who's the director? ah This is directed by Bart Layton, who's done hit movies such as American Animals from 2018, The Imposter from 2012, and The Deepest Breath in 2023. I haven't heard of any of those. I don't know this guy at all.
00:02:55
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Is there like a high profile writer on here? I have no idea. what's going on? I wonder when this happens, when you get a director that has a couple features that they're not starring anybody. They, I don't know. And then they just, their third or fourth is just stacked with A-list celebrities. like Right.
00:03:13
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Money laundering. You think so? Wake up, sheeple. Yeah. he's got a bafta award for outstanding debut by british right oh he's british that explains it yeah there we go lu you might yeah loop loop closed um i mean i'll watch it i guess yeah i'll watch it seems like it'd be fun time i think i've seen a trailer it's a pretty good cast Yeah, i like I like the cast, so we'll see how that is.
00:03:42
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um We've got a new look at the Spider Noir series coming soon to Prime Video. I put this here because I wanted to get, I don't know like what you guys think about this.
00:03:53
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I think it's fine. think it'll fun. i um like i think it'll be fun i think it'll be fun. I hope Nick Cage plays the character like his character in Bad Lieutenant Port-A-Call, New Orleans.
00:04:08
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Just over the top? Insane.
00:04:12
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How... I would like to see that. It's interesting that they're doing this. From the screenshots that I've seen and like the first look images, ah the suit just gives me like cosplay.
00:04:26
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But everything else about it, I'm intrigued. i'm intrigued What if it's actually like good? I'll watch it because it's Nick Cage. For sure. Just a straight up noir movie, but for some reason it's starring Spider-Man. They are going to have the option to watch it like in black and white. like They shot it ah for black and white, and then you can also watch it color on Prime. But they shot it for black and white.
00:04:52
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Yeah, I'll watch it in black and white then. Yeah, which is pretty cool. same Who wants to take the next piece of news? I'll take it. The Mummy 4 will release on May 19th, 2028 in theaters.
00:05:04
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Brendan Fraser and Rachel Weisz are now officially set to return. Matt Batinelli-Olpin and Tyler Gillette from Screen 5 are set to direct. Do we like Scream 5? I haven't seen it. No. No, no, no, no.
00:05:19
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We're done with Scream. So it's a movie we don't want made by people we don't want. Yeah, basically. Cool. Well, hope they get a fat check.
00:05:31
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We'll see. um wanted to put this one. El Paso has two Alamos and they've had them for a few years now. They're losing both of them. Why? but Brother, they lost airspace this morning. They lost airspace. That was what I woke up to, and I was like, like I woke up in a panic.
00:05:47
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What happened? They shut down el Paso airspace for... It only lasted a couple hours, but the initial shutdown or suspension was for 10 days, the FAA said.
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The same thing happened in New Orleans today? And i woke up, and I was like... Do I need to tell my sister to evacuate? yeah They said for it was for like security reasons to like shut down aerospace for 10 whole days.
00:06:16
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But then they walked it back like an hour and a half, two hours later. And they said apparently it was because they thought something was like a drone was flying over the border, but it turned out to be a balloon. Yeah. That's what they shot down balloon with lasers or something like that. Yeah. It was like supposed to be like Mexican cartel drones had like infiltrated. Yeah.
00:06:35
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But yeah, like Alex said, it was supposedly just a party balloon. Do you believe it was just a balloon? No. mean, think it was aliens. It had to be. I think it was aliens in the balloon.
00:06:45
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Yeah. I think they found something. Because 10 days? That's crazy. Could you imagine? That was nuts. Anyway, they're losing their Alamo drive house. That's for sure. I think they're getting replaced. They were...
00:06:59
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I don't know if you can, um what's the word I'm looking for? Franchise? Draft houses? You can. You can? Yep. Because you know the one that Dallas lost recently? Yeah, yeah, yeah. i know a guy who knows a guy who ran it.
00:07:18
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And he franchised it. And it was lost. Do you know what it turned into? No idea. no idea I thought when they got bought out, they would just start popping up everywhere. There's one in Boston.
00:07:34
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It's kind of, yeah, I had a similar thought too, Tachi. But these yeah, I guess these two were like outbid or something. I think they're going to become Flick's brew houses, if I'm not mistaken. What?
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Yeah. So like, there's still going to be movie theaters, just no longer in Alamo. What's a Flick's brew house? There's a Flick's brew house here in Round Rock. Yeah. Yeah. Ooh, I live in Round Rock. Shut up, idiot. I've been there once, and it was to see Shazam.
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Wow. That's a choice. Actually, I heard the first one wasn't that bad The first one's a good time. The first one is a good time. I still never saw it. Actually, it's sorry. It wasn't Shazam. It was worse than that. because Shazam 2? It was Shazam 2. It was Black Adam.
00:08:19
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That is worse. Did the hierarchy of superhero movies
00:08:25
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Put it at the hierarchy of movie theaters. that Flicks Brewhouse will take over Alamo Drafthouse. It literally just sounds like the worst B-rip off of Alamo.
00:08:39
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The Hill Country Fair. Yeah. Alamo Draft House. Rest in peace to them. I just saw Marty Supreme there too. and up At the el Paso one. RIP. Maybe you're the reason that it closed. Because real cinema enjoyers weren't intending. One of them was decorated like really cool. So like the Alamo on Lakeland is decorated like ah Planet of the Apes. The one in El Paso was ah like luchador themed.
00:09:03
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It was awesome. on It was really, it was like, it's actually like the nicest, ah like decorated Alamo that I've seen. Yeah. More than the ones here. I do love that they all have their own theme. Like the village one is, is that? Like horror movies? Yeah. Like slash slashers.
00:09:21
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Then you got Mueller, which is. Spacey? ufos basey Yeah, I think it's like sci-fi. I feel like they could do a bit more with that. But then they got the the South Lamar one, which is like the shining. There's like the button you can press and like the hallway fills with blood. Yeah, that one has a huge mural on the side too. Yeah. yeah It's cool.
00:09:41
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Yeah, they got the stuff figured out with Southamore. That one's... That used to be my least favorite Alamo because they had the benches. do y'all remember before we had like the individual seats? was just a long, oh my God. And it was, you either had to duck under to escape or like go through the entire row. And when and it was like super tight because of the bench.
00:10:00
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so i used to hate going to South Amar. And then they changed it and i'm like, all right, we're good now. Nice. So last piece of news, the Revenant. Actually, what we're covering today is ah going to be returning to theaters February 26th and
The Revenant: Inspiration and Plot
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March 1st exclusively in IMAX.
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So hopefully following this episode, um you guys will go check it out. Yep. We're going to discuss The Revenant. If you like our discussion, go watch it in theaters.
00:10:29
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I think I would go back to go watch this in theaters, honestly. feel like that would be a good time. Yeah, I agree. We're also going to discuss bears. Bears? We're going have a bear discussion. So following our ape discussion, the episode, we're going to have a bear discussion. A bear discussion?
00:10:53
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um Tachi. Yeah. This is your themed birthday episode. It sure is And you were able to pick a movie for us to talk about and review and you chose The Revenant.
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I did. Why? So I actually kind of i kind of went over the reasoning last episode which was that it was basically the the first movie that just made me kind of feel inspired once it was over.
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And i don't know. I just kind of wanted to revisit this movie and see if I had a similar feeling once it was over. And um I don't know. I just have really good memories from it. And I know that it had been a long time for you guys slash you haven't even seen it. So just wanted to go for that because it was meaningful to me.
00:11:39
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What did this movie inspire you to do? Like, yeah, what were those feelings that you had after? Was it it was revenge? It was more so um the beauty within the film. So...
00:11:54
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I've always really been into like landscape photography and there are a lot of beautiful shots, um, showing off the Canadian landscapes. So, and Argentinian.
00:12:06
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Oh yeah, very true. Um, yeah, that's, that's really what I mean by inspired. It's just like so many times I'm just like in awe of nature's beauty. And, uh, I know that that was an emphasis from the direction in cinematography and it really shines through.
00:12:26
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Awesome. Yeah. Well, I'm excited to talk about this with you guys. um I've seen this. when When did this movie release? 2015? Yeah. yeah I haven't seen it since 2015, so we'll call it a solid 10 years.
00:12:39
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Same. so And I've never seen it. Which is was just shocking. um Yeah, you're telling me. Yeah, this felt like the first time I'd seen it. um You were saying before we were recording, Tati, that you were shocked at how much you remembered.
00:12:53
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There were bits and pieces I remembered because i was like, have I seen this? Because I was like questioning it before, and was like, have I seen it? It was logged on Letterboxd, but like it could have just been like you know when you first sign up for the app, and then like a whole bunch of movies just kind of go through.
00:13:07
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i was like, maybe it could be one of those situations, but I did remember bits and pieces of the movie. But overall, it did feel like the first time I'd seen it, And yeah, I'm excited to to talk to about it. Maybe we all left feeling a little inspired for revenge after this movie.
00:13:26
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I know I did. I'm gonna get you guys. Who do you wanna get revenge on? You guys. Oh, okay. For bowling. For For bowling. oh The whole time I'm like, literally me, literally Alex and Tachi when we were bowling.
00:13:40
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Every time you guttered this because I was hexing you actually. Check your pockets. All right, let's do our Letterboxd Love Like Loathe. Tachi has our five star today, me with the three, and then Alex with the one, and then we'll get into our thoughts and feelings on The Revenant.
00:13:56
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We shall. So this five star review comes in from Baby One. Refusing to die just to see Tom Hardy again is so real. I like it. um I have two three star reviews.
00:14:09
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The first one comes from Jake Reed, Matt Damon and the Martian deserved better. This movie and Leo's role slash performance is incredibly overrated. Career Oscars are lame. We're gonna talk a little bit about its life at the Oscars. So it's why I wanted to read that one. Um, the second one I have just made me kind of, just rated me. Uh, this one is by Romanian watcher.
00:14:33
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The movie was good. I should have paid more attention. Maybe I would have liked it more. Well,
00:14:40
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ah Yeah. Yeah. Technically valid review. I guess. Annoying review, but yeah. like're At least they're honest. Yeah. Like good movie. I wish I wasn't on my phone for 45 minutes of it, but I'll watch it again. That's crazy. Yeah.
00:14:56
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I also have two reviews for our one star. ah This one is from Louisa Mayer from February, 2016. So this is old review. Almost.
00:15:08
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God, if you're recording two days from now, this would be a 10 year old review. a Happy anniversary. wait Wait, wait, what was the date? February 13th? Yeah. That's Tachi's birthday. ah Perfect. the Birthday review for the birthday boy. it's It says, it says film made by men for men.
00:15:28
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Plenty of useless revenge, killing and death. I hope it doesn't win any Oscar. I'm sorry, Leo.
00:15:37
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Louisa, I have bad news for you. From the future.
00:15:43
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I did have a second review, though. This one was from Yasin Hamid. This was written in Arabic, and I i did the liberty of translating it. And by took the liberty of translating it, I mean I plugged it into Google Translate and hit detect language.
00:15:57
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Let's go. What it spat back was, I saw the first hour of it and it felt like I'd been sitting there all day. What kind of eggs are these? What?
00:16:11
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I'm going to guess that that's not an accurate translation. What kind of eggs these? Me when I'm at the store and I see some weird eggs. yeah What kind of eggs are these?
00:16:25
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The size of your fist. Yeah. Maybe there's like a different cut in wherever this person watched the movie. The egg cut? The egg cut? Egypt. They're in Egypt.
00:16:39
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Hmm. What do you think they meant? Or what do you think this that that actually says? I genuinely don't know. the read the read Read the egg sentence again? I saw the first hour of it and I felt like I've been sitting there all day. What kind of eggs are these?
00:16:55
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ah Maybe it's like a maybe it's like an expression, like a figure of speech. But it doesn't translate well.
00:17:07
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Maybe it's just like, so like, maybe it's what kind of movie is this? Just the translation broken. i my guess is it's like, like, you know, for us, bru say like what is this pile of crap?
00:17:22
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But there, it's like, what kind of eggs are these? It sucks. I like it. I'm going to start saying that. After every bad movie you see, I'll be what kind of egg was that?
00:17:34
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Movies are now eggs. Shitty eggs. I don't know. I don't speak Arabic. um It'd be cool if I did, wouldn't it? You kind of do.
00:17:45
Speaker
No, I don't. Every time you say my name.
00:17:50
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Boom. You know my name means, Alex? You're not wrong. You know my name means? What? means king. And you're both going to bow down. So when I was in high school, I learned that Alexander means like defender of women. And I thought that was like so hard. I thought it would like get me girls like that my name was Alexander be like, oh, he'd defend us. Dude was chat maxing in middle school. It didn't.
00:18:24
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Tachi, what does your name mean? i My real name means clever. I think Tachi means...
00:18:35
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ah sword maybe is touching normally i feel like this is a question i should have asked you years ago but it's touching normally derived from your long from your full name it came from my cousin when she was a baby she couldn't say my name oh actually i think i knew that i'm pretty sure i knew that oh yeah that's kind of happened happy little accident Yeah. um I'm going to read the the synopsis of The Revenant real quick, just a case people don't know what we're talking about, which would be crazy. Why are you listening to this episode? This is the Leo Oscar movie for those in the dark. Yes.
00:19:11
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Leo's one and only Oscar. Yep. um The Revenant came out in 2015, directed by Alejandro Gonzalez Inarratu. In the 1820s, frontiersman, Hugh Glass sets out on a path of vengeance against those who left him for dead after a bear mauling.
00:19:27
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And like we said, this is starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Hardy, Dom Hall Gleason, and Will Poulter. Alex, were saying stacked cast and you were surprised. yeah I was also surprised. The first five minutes, I'm like, yo, look at this guy. That was the part of like the movie where i'm like, have I seen this?
00:19:47
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i was like, I don't remember Tom Hardy or Dom Hall Gleason or Will Poulter. And for a second, I thought majority of the movie was in another language before we started the movie.
00:19:58
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i Where'd you watch it? Did you watch it on Peacock? ah was I was like, in my room. Right. Is it free on Peacock? Yeah. yeah Oh my. I bought you not like look these things up on the Roku before I did. It wasn't that I didn't see Peacock. It just said YouTube TV, ah Amazon and Apple TV.
00:20:18
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Then Apple TV was the cheapest to buy it. It was only $4.99 and renting it was $3.99. So I bought it. Hmm. I got on digital, a good deal. Can you download it?
00:20:29
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I can download it. Oh, nice. Yeah. Download it. I will say, I don't know if it was like the movie or if it was just Peacock Buggin, but I thought the sound mixing in like the first 15 minutes was horrid.
00:20:40
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I couldn't understand a word that was being said. I will say for my copy as well, like I don't watch movies with subtitles. I had to put the subtitles on like saying yeah like 10 minutes into it like the voices just sounded really far away. I literally lives.
00:20:58
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Yeah I literally walked over to like the sound bar that I have and I like is this on like I thought it was like the sound is coming out of the TV and I put my ear next to it and I was like alright it's on. So just put the subtitles on maybe it's just mixed poorly.
00:21:11
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Yeah maybe kind of eggs were those um Alex question for you. Mm-hmm. So this is based off of a book based off of a real man, Hugh Glass.
00:21:26
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Were you aware of this story before? I knew it was a book. I didn't know it was based off a guy. Guys, this movie based off of a guy. Tachi, did you know that? I didn't know that.
00:21:36
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I didn't know that until a couple hours ago. Oh my God, he was actually mauled by a bear. Yeah. I thought it was left for dead. Yeah. i don't know if we'll talk about it a little bit more, but from what I saw online on Wikipedia...
00:21:49
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The things that were kind of fluffed up for the movie was or things that were not confirmed in reality. It wasn't confirmed that he had a wife, let alone a native wife or a son. So those are things added to the movie. But Hugh Glass was a real person. He was captured by the Pawnee. Uh-huh.
00:22:09
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And traveled to St. Louis in 1821, accompanying several Pawnee delegates invited to meet with U.S. authorities. It's not out of the realm of possibility. Yeah.
00:22:21
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There's just no like actual at confirmation that he did have a wife and son. But yeah, he was attacked by a bear. That's crazy. And crawled, I think, the total was like 250 miles over six months.
00:22:36
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Crawled? Or crawled and limped and did all that. Just survived. just Yeah, tried to survive. Bro, they used to have it hard.
00:22:46
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We're over here struggling behind our computers. Okay, apparently, this is kind of funny, Fort Kiowa, which is where this was...
00:22:59
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It's in South Dakota. That movie did not look like South Dakota or any South Dakota that I had ever been to. No, not quite. Oh, no. These are vast, like grand landscapes. Like we say Canada and Argentina. That's exact.
00:23:15
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Yeah. Like that's what we what we saw. Canadian Rockies. For sure. I think it was filmed in Canada. So one of the fun facts that i have, i don't know you guys had time to go through the trivia, um but this trivia fact is due to production being behind schedule, the snow melted during the location shoot in Canada before filming was complete.
00:23:34
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With summer rapidly approaching, there was no choice but to relocate the entire production to southern Argentina where there were similar similar wintry conditions. And that ballooned the budget by like 20 to 30 million. Balloons?
00:23:46
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Yeah. Balloons! I was a moving everything over to Argentina from Canada, which is nuts. That's that's dedication. That is dedication.
00:23:57
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Imagine they just switched to blue screen. Oh my God. The movie just tanks in quality.
00:24:06
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I'm glad that they chose to shoot outdoors. It seems like there were a lot of issues that came from getting these real landscapes and being out there in the cold and the snow.
Cinematic Techniques and Highlights
00:24:19
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They didn't use any light. They ah mainly shot it with natural light, which I think is awesome. There's there's one night scene where they didn't use natural light. you Do you see that trivia fact? Where did that one go?
00:24:30
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It's the third one. We had to lay a bunch of light bulbs around the fire to create a cushion of light. That's all the light we use. That's crazy. That's crazy. um This movie's cinematographer is Emmanuel Lubezki, who has worked with this director before on Birdman.
00:24:49
Speaker
He also shot Children of Men. Nice. Beautiful movie. and Gravity. Is that that Sandra Bullock space movie? yep Yes. Sandra Bullock space movie. Eat to Mama Tambien.
00:25:00
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Goated movie. Burn After Reading. And The Cat in the Hat. um Interesting. Oh my god. Alex, he shot the ah that Song to Song movie.
00:25:13
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Really? Yeah. You're the one who told me about that one, right? Yeah. And it's like bad. You have seen that movie. I know I've seen it. But you didn't you didn't know you saw it until after I told you you saw it, which is the funniest bit. Because I'm like, you rated it on Letterboxd. you're like, no, I didn't.
00:25:30
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I did. Yeah. i I remember this conversation, which is why I bring it up. i'm like, because now I remember it. it was it had its It had sauce, but like it was so long and it was nonsensical.
00:25:43
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I don't remember it. I just know I didn't like it. I don't know what Terrence Malick was thinking when he made it. ah he He wasn't. He was not. It was cool to see like a modern Austin movie, though.
00:25:55
Speaker
All right, let's get into what we thought about The Revenant. And it was filmed in ACL that I attended. Oh. I think, yeah. Let's keep talking about that movie. We should rewatch it for this podcast. That's what I'll choose for my birthday episode. No, no, no. can't stop me.
00:26:09
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Yeah, I can. I'll start with this. Ready? Guys, I love this movie. Hell yeah. Holy shit. So I gave this a four on Letterboxd whenever I had originally watched it.
00:26:22
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Will that change? I don't know. But you loved it. But I did love this movie. Sick. It's so good. so glad. i for like and I was so shocked at how like violent this movie is.
00:26:34
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I completely forgot. me too. There were so many moments where I just like had my hand over my mouth at just the just every like the opening 10 minutes even.
00:26:46
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It's just insane. just People just getting bow and arrowed left and right. Scalped. Scalped. Yeah. i don't remember like I don't remember any of that before. Yeah, no, when I mentioned that I didn't realize how much I remembered, it's because like before every horrible thing, like 30 seconds leading up to it, I'm like, oh no. You're like, oh, it's coming. Yeah.
00:27:11
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Just brutal. Brutal, brutal, brutal. But beautiful. Very beautiful Scalping is crazy. Scalping is crazy. Why would you do that to somebody? Because you want their scalp.
00:27:22
Speaker
Ugh. I don't think they want. don't think they do. They keep it. Yeah, they would. Oh, and then on the flip side, that's how you would like. Have you guys read the book Blood Meridian?
00:27:35
Speaker
No. By Coran McCarthy. OK, so like there were bands of like army truck ah troops that would go into the frontier and kill natives and would bring back their scalps as proof.
00:27:48
Speaker
For money. Wow. it's Yeah. and That's what that book's about. That's insane. Yeah. Could you imagine? oh we don't have to talk about it. Alex, what did you think of this movie?
00:27:59
Speaker
Yeah. I liked it. thought it was pretty, thought it was a good time. Um, no, I mean, I, so I love Westerns. I think I'm the biggest Western lover on this podcast and I don't think there's a lot of Westerns that really use like the winter,
00:28:14
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I mean, the one off the top my head I can think of is The Great Silence. And that takes place in like The Frozen Winter. And then McCabe and Miss Miller. ah So this one I think is more modern in the sense... oh Magnificent... or Does Hateful count? Hateful Eight? Hateful Eight counts. Hateful Eight counts. That's what I was going to Not Magnificent Seven. Wrong number.
00:28:33
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Yeah. But there aren't many. I mean, like those are the three off the top of my head. And I'm drawing a blank on anything else. I've seen a lot of Westerns. I'm sure there's more out there. So if someone replies like, oh, you forgot about you know Sergio Corbucci's Snow Gun Killer. like Yeah, I know I did. How could you forget Snow Gun Killer? It's the one that started them all.
00:28:55
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yeah But it's it's a seldom used a seldomus setting for such an iconic genre. And, I mean, it's it was so brutal, and I think it adds to the brutality of where that genre can go. I mean, because like when it gets cold in Texas, you know, we get like, oh, it's chilly. I'm going to go get some hot chocolate, some coffee, and bundle up and watch a movie.
00:29:22
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Back then, you'd just be like fighting for your life. like Literally. Genuinely, literally. And especially with like the outlaw genre, you know, frontiersman, you wouldn't be doing that in a cabin.
00:29:33
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No. You'd be doing it outside. i mean, we all love the Outdoor Boys on YouTube, but like that was just people's lives. Which is crazy. And it's like, so this is set in the 1820s? In the grand scheme of things, that's not that long ago. No. Like, at all. Right. Like, we were almost the There are parts of the world that are still like that. Yeah, that was that was so close to being us.
00:30:00
Speaker
I'm not made for that. I like watching the Outdoor Boys, and after their videos, I'm like, you know what? I could do that. But I know in practice, I don't think I'm for that. You could do it.
00:30:12
Speaker
Doctor, you remember that one time we tried to go camping? Trying to go camping. ah Where? We were we we got to a group camping trip. Oh, that would actually be a lot of fun. That would be sick. Taji and I had an idea to go camping and burn it, and it didn't work out. And then i don't think we wanted to sleep outside or something like that. We didn't have like the right gear. Did we even have a tent?
00:30:33
Speaker
I don't think so. Oh my god. So we went to a Best Western. and that I do remember that. In Burnett? Yeah. What'd you do? like oh we went to a lake.
00:30:44
Speaker
We went to a lake. we did Was it Inks Lake? Yeah, Inks Lake and then did some some hiking. Looked at the stars because I think it's a dark sky in Burnett if I'm not mistaken. I think that yeah was like the main reason that we went.
00:30:57
Speaker
It's not the darkest sky, but it's not the darkest sky. i don't know what the darkest sky in Texas is. I've been out. to OK, I've been out in the Big Bend area. it's It's Big Bend, although crazy story.
00:31:09
Speaker
I've been to Big Bend one time. It was a full moon. We didn't see anything because the moon was that bright. Yeah, that sucks. I'd be pissed. But i would ah yeah, I feel like I'd have to you have to like plan that to make sure that you're out there with a new moon.
00:31:22
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I was in Milano, Texas last weekend ah for a birthday, and we did some stargazing, and it was crazy just hour and 30 outside of Austin.
00:31:35
Speaker
How much you could see and for how little light pollution there was. I mean, your constellations are crazy. They are. i was i had this thought earlier when we were talking about the when we started talking about the movie with languages.
00:31:47
Speaker
Languages are crazy. Yeah. Like the concept of languages just blows my mind. Why didn't we just all pick one? but For real.
00:31:59
Speaker
Some guy tried to make that. It was Esperanto. it was going to be the universal language. That was the name of it? Esperanto? Yeah, Esperanto. and Sounds like it'd be like Simlish. Yeah.
00:32:10
Speaker
It sounds made up because it's literally made up. It was made up by some linguists. It's going to go crazy. you say Everything's made up? yeah There's this new language out that's supposed to be nuts. Did it work?
00:32:23
Speaker
No, it didn't work. And it's funny because someone on like slash travel on Reddit was like, I think I want to go to live in China. I'm fluent in Esperanto. Will that help me get by? All the comments were like, like, do you know how much time you wasted getting fluent in Esperanto?
00:32:41
Speaker
I might have to look into this. yeah I'll report back soon. Yeah. We're going to do a whole episode only in Esperanto. Yeah. It was created in 1887. Yeah, we're opening up niches you've never even heard of.
00:32:55
Speaker
Niches you don't even want. But but on the topic of ah language, I mean, it kind of shows up in the movie a little bit. But like the indigenous cultures of America, a lot of them had different languages. Mm-hmm.
00:33:11
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like ah like the Pawnee language used in the movie is nowhere, I don't think it's anywhere close to being the same as like the Diné languages you know, the Four Corners area. It's really interesting. But they're not that far apart. Yeah. Right? I mean, um i guess physically they're not far apart, but, you know, those tribes rarely, i don't like ever interacted. And, you know, there was some migration over the years, but Um, there are language groups, like there are languages that are clearly derived from each other in America. Um, yeah.
00:33:43
Speaker
Like, indigenous... but i was always I've always been fascinated by, like, the indigenous history in America. think it's fascinating. Mm-hmm. Yeah, language is crazy. There was, like, what, four languages spoken in this movie? Pawnee, English, French, and Rhee. Rhee, yeah.
00:33:59
Speaker
Was that the ah the tribe... It started with an A. Ara... Ara something. Ari... Arikari? Or is that something else? Ari... Arikara.
00:34:13
Speaker
Arakara. Arakari is... Arakari, which is the suicide thing. That was about to say. was like, it that feels like something else. but um Let's get into what works for us for us in this movie.
00:34:25
Speaker
This movie's beautiful. Tachi, were right. It's so gorgeous. It's shot insanely well. I love the landscape shots. Me too. Like, I love that this was shot on location.
00:34:36
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I love that they use natural light. There are... are the Movement of the camera is so fluid, like right off the bat with Leo's introduction. It's um a downward shot looking at the river, like moving up the river and it's so smooth and like the cameras like slowly panning up to see the rest of the forest and then kind of turns to the right to see um the hunters walking.
00:35:00
Speaker
And as soon as like Leo comes into frame, I noticed like the camera just like it gets like shaky. Like it's now it's like walking with them. Like it goes from this like fluid motion of the river to just this slight shake with the hunters.
00:35:15
Speaker
And that just like did not stop like that visual language just did not stop for the entire movie. um There's a lot of one shots. A lot of one shots and they're done. It's awesome. So well. It's so cool. It's so cool.
00:35:31
Speaker
I was eating it up. Yeah. same And this is early on in the movie. So I feel it's fine to talk about it now. But I wanted to talk about the bear attack. Yeah. I remember from the marketing of this movie, I thought the whole movie was going to be just bears.
00:35:47
Speaker
I remember that too, thinking it was like Leo versus the bears. Yeah. like Like they just kept coming from like left and right. And he was going to have to just send off the bears.
00:36:00
Speaker
Possibly thousands bears.
00:36:05
Speaker
Thankfully it was just one bear, but that one bear was enough to fuck him up. Yeah. Oh, How did they do it? I gotta watch gotta watch some behind the scenes with it because speaking of like one shots, most of this bear attack is one shot or quote unquote yeah one shot at least made it to look like it's one, but him getting thrashed around and tossed and thrown.
00:36:29
Speaker
Like, what did they use? So I actually, I do have some insight on this. I looked it up beforehand. So apparently when they were filming in the woods, Leo did get attacked by a bear. Okay. And they just filmed it. Wow.
00:36:44
Speaker
That's crazy. That's what the bear attack was. He's really like that. they They put CGI over the bear a little bit to make it look fake. Because they didn't want to get sued.
00:36:54
Speaker
I've noticed Leo does have that little ah pep in his step when he's walking. Must be the bear. Must be. He didn't used to only date 25 year olds and then the bear happens. ah This bear attack is crazy.
00:37:13
Speaker
it's the The motions of the bear and how it attacks him seem so natural. Yeah. Like the way it like shakes him and steps on him. and The stepping on the head. was just watching its claws. Oh my god. The intermittent sniffs and light scratches that I just know just start agonizing. It's terrible. It's like gashing in his back. Yeah. I've seen Grizzly Man. I know it can happen to bears.
00:37:44
Speaker
And then like in the middle of the fight, like once you think it's over, the bear is walking away and he loads his gun. That was dumb. Oh my God. He should have just still played dead.
00:37:55
Speaker
It was going to come back. like I think it was going to come was regardless back But it had lost... and like Okay, so here's the thing. if it's If it's black, fight back. If it's brown, lie down. If it's white, good night.
00:38:08
Speaker
Yeah. That's what you're supposed to do. you're not i don't think you're supposed to get back up. You're supposed to play dead because then I think a grizzly will lose interest and just walk away. Because the thing with a grizzly is they're super aggressive and they will rip you to shreds.
00:38:23
Speaker
But for the most part, they're largely indifferent to you. Like, obviously, like, don't go hang out with them like Timothy Treadwell did, but he did last 10 years hanging out with the Bears.
00:38:36
Speaker
But because they just they know they're better than you. hmm. And so they don't hunt people like Grizzlies don't hunt people like polar bears do. But this one was due to him walking in on the nest with the cubs. cus like The cubs were there. yeah Yeah, the cubs are a very central part to it.
00:38:54
Speaker
But when it left and went back to the cubs, because that's what happens, it leaves and goes back to the cubs. I think he should have continued to play dead. Do you think they know these they knew these rules 200 years ago?
00:39:07
Speaker
it's black I would assume a woodsman would in some capacity. True. Because he does go limp. Like he does play dead. He doesn't have a choice sometimes. It's just throwing him around like a ragdoll.
00:39:25
Speaker
I get what you mean, but like I do think the bear was coming back and at that point If he like, it did seem like he had a good shot. Like your one and only chance, take the shot, like headshot.
00:39:40
Speaker
But unfortunately he grazes the side of its neck. Oh my God. And it goes back for more. I wonder if it was coming back because he was like squirming around, getting his fidgeting around. yeah i am convinced that that's why it came back. Hmm.
00:39:56
Speaker
I simply would have continued to play dead until the party showed up. Crazy crazy sequence though. The throat slice was gnarly. I wanted to talk about the overall like i don't know if I could say production design but like the makeup is like i think we'll get into a little bit later to say I think it was nominated for an Oscar for this but like The effects on his body and the makeup overall was so well done.
00:40:23
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um Specifically when he first starts to drink some water after a little while. Oh, yeah. And the blood starts pouring out of his neck.
00:40:32
Speaker
And then he cauterizes it. Oh, my God. That was nuts. Literally insane. He gets the gunpowder and stuffs it.
00:40:43
Speaker
Into his neck. His neck wounds. And sets it ablaze. Men used to be men. I'm sorry. Like if I did that, you'd never, I would never shut up about it.
00:40:54
Speaker
And now I just shiver in my 50 degree apartment when it gets cold outside. but My shoulder hurts and it ruins my day. I don't think I would have made it past eight years old in this time. Yeah. Why eight?
00:41:07
Speaker
And that's when you're gaining consciousness. I think would have seen. gained consciousness at eight. Is that late? Yes. A little.
00:41:17
Speaker
When did you gain in consciousness? Like four when I lived in Germany. you remember? Yeah. Not like great, but enough. remember enough.
00:41:29
Speaker
I just joined the lobby late, I guess. Interesting. um I've got more on my list, but I'll throw it to you guys for or what works for you. What's good here?
00:41:41
Speaker
I like the performances. Tom Hardy puts on a fantastic performance in this. Mm-hmm. He doesn't even like Tom Hardy is one of those guys I think can disappear into a role and you're like, well, that's Tom Hardy easily. Like if you told me that if you had not told me, I would have been like, i don't know who this guy is. He's pretty good. Yeah.
00:41:56
Speaker
Like I was already excited. Like Tachi, you had ah said that this was movie. I was like, oh, OK, I'm down for that. And then Tom Hardy's name popped up in like the beginning sequence. And I was like, oh, shit, let's go.
00:42:08
Speaker
Yeah, he was he was awesome. he was His character was super believable. Yeah. Will Poulter was fun. Will Poulter's a good time. Yeah. I like him. Me too. Go Will. Remember when he was like the eyebrows guy from Where the Millers?
00:42:22
Speaker
Yeah. Like that's just who he was. do you guys think he has an 1820s face? What kind of face do you think he has? What kind of era does his face belong in? Not eighteen twenty s South Dakota, I don't think.
00:42:34
Speaker
He seemed kind of weird in that in that place. Maybe it's because he looked like he was 12. Current Jack Black might fit in. Wearing the Minecraft costume. With all those fur trappers. That Steve shirt would look so bright in that landscape. First we mine, then we craft.
00:42:57
Speaker
When they're trying to get out. Pawnee's like, who is this guy? ah There was one, hang on, it was about the shots and I thought of it um when you were talking about how you thought it was beautiful, Moeke.
00:43:10
Speaker
And it just feels like throughout the whole movie, every every frame and sequence is either like a one shot or like ah a beautiful landscape wide shot or just like...
00:43:22
Speaker
a super uncomfortably close, intimate closeup. That's just yeah pain, agony, fear. I don't like the, the primal,
00:43:35
Speaker
I guess instinct that, you know, Leonardo DiCaprio's character just wants to survive and keep moving and and find Tom Hardy's character. Fitzgerald.
00:43:46
Speaker
I do love ah like the big differences between the sweeping landscape shots and then the yeah the, like you said, the really wide angle lenses up in their faces.
00:43:57
Speaker
um I think there's a lot of that in Birdman. don't know if you guys have seen Birdman, um but that's a movie that's a movie I really like that I really enjoy. That's the only other movie from this director that I'm familiar with, but I think it's a good kind of like level to see the like how he kind of likes to shoot his movies.
00:44:14
Speaker
and so it's interesting to see like that. carried over to like such a nature-heavy movie, but I think once they get like that camera of real close to their faces, it works really well. like i think that could...
00:44:28
Speaker
potentially like go on the side of Goofy, like putting a camera like two feet away from your actor's face and just like kind of shooting them from like chin level. like You kind of get like that funny like effect, like that weird fisheye effect. so um But it's done extremely well in this.
00:44:44
Speaker
Yeah, and and speaking on the proximity of the camera to the actor, ah there's a quote by Rob Reiner and some interview that he's doing, and he's talking about the Princess Bride. And there's a scene in The Princess Bride where they're watching the princess ride her horse like across this pretty little thing it's like a just a cool little i don't know landscape shot as she's riding a horse and for like a second there's a lens flare in the camera and in this movie a couple times the actor's breath hits the camera
00:45:18
Speaker
Yeah. And his point is just that he didn't like that the lens flare showed up in the movie because then it takes the audience out of like the world of the movie.
00:45:30
Speaker
So I'm wondering if you guys either like notice that or think about that when, when things like that happen directly with the camera. JJ Abrams would like to have a conversation about the lens flare.
00:45:42
Speaker
Um, Alex, he has something to say, go for it, but I've got something too. i I don't know. I feel like it can be done tastefully. Like there was a scene where the blood kind of hit the camera and I'm like, ooh, gritty.
00:45:57
Speaker
But if it keeps happening like over and over again, and say, okay, this is a gimmick. I don't know. It's just one of those things. like I think it works if it works. And if it doesn't, it doesn't. Gotcha. But I think it worked for the most part in this movie. Yeah, I think it can get to the point of gimmicky.
00:46:09
Speaker
But there's some movies where it's just like that's like the whole shtick. um I'm thinking of like, is it dread? Is that the movie I'm thinking of? Maybe. DRE? I don't know. some std I think so. Where it's kind of like in the POV, like it's like an action, like POV movie. Like that's kind of the gimmick and like that can just kind of feel like a rollercoaster right after a while. But I think one of my favorite scenes that I had written down, so i'm glad that you brought this up, was Leo coming out of the grave um that I am so bad with like the actual character names. I'm just going to say the actor. That Tom Hardy, when they initially leave him. Glass and Fitzgerald.
00:46:45
Speaker
Glass and Fitzgerald. So Glass is coming out of the grave and crawls over to his son because he saw Fitzgerald kill his son. um That's the central point of this movie is the revenge of him wanting to, he saw Fitzgerald kill him.
00:46:58
Speaker
And so Leo comes out of the grave, finds his son, and the music is like swelling. I love the soundtrack, the score in this movie. um He's telling the son that he's not going to leave him like in the snow.
00:47:10
Speaker
And that's like the first time you see like his breath against the camera lens. But like, Once we start seeing the breath, the scene immediately cuts and the music kind of fades out.
00:47:22
Speaker
And the scene cuts to just like a drone shot like in the sky, like amongst the clouds and everything. And you can just hear his breathing in the background. And I was just like, It took my breath away. like I was like, this is like be beautiful.
00:47:37
Speaker
like That... Absolute cinema. like my I was just like... This is why I watch movies. like I think like that's it. I was like, i was like this is like these are movies. so like I really liked seeing his breath against the camera. It only happens a couple more times throughout the movie, but that first time, I was just like taken aback.
00:47:58
Speaker
So yes, I'm a fan of that. Okay. Cool. Speaking of score, yeah, beautiful score. Oh, yeah. So good. It felt like it was naturally a part of like the landscape. I already went back today, and I was listening to it, and the theme, like his theme, like the Revenant theme, is just like that really... I don't even know how to describe it, but it's like the low notes on like a violin or a cello. It's just like that... Whatever it sounds, and it just kept coming back, and I think that's what sounds like the most... like this entire like being one with like nature it just all flowed together really well it kept coming back like a glass did there was one i want to find the song but there was one specific uh song on the score on the when he sees the the bison and the wolf that was kind of like a dreamlike state like I don't know what he was seeing in that but that song whatever song was playing in that scene I really enjoyed
00:48:58
Speaker
Was it discovering Buffalo? It might've been discovering Buffalo. That seems like it would be. Yeah. What'd you guys think of the dream sequences? Cause they don't really seem like they'd be part of such a grounded gritty movie.
00:49:12
Speaker
I liked him with the the pyramid of skulls or whatever. Yeah. We got our own bone temple. Yeah. That was a real thing. There are bone temples everywhere with those with eyes to see.
00:49:27
Speaker
Sorry, I'll hold your question one more time. Just what do you think of the dream sequences? Yeah, and how it fit into movie like this. So, like, as I, like, once I finished the movie, I was, I think the main thing that stuck with me are, like, a lot of the dream sequences, especially when it comes to, like, his wife, um like, trying to find his son and wanting to find out what that means.
00:49:49
Speaker
I watched this one YouTube video that I think... Really put like this movie, like once I finished movie, i was like, holy shit. That was awesome. I loved it.
00:50:00
Speaker
And then I watched this YouTube essay from like eight years ago talking about how this movie is a ghost story. Talking about like the um American purgatory. And like once that video finished, I was like, holy shit.
00:50:15
Speaker
That sounds crazy. I absolutely love this movie. So what he in the video is saying about the dream sequences and I'll link the YouTube video in the in the show notes and then I'll send it to you guys so you could watch it.
00:50:26
Speaker
But basically he thinks he feels that the director is like asking the audience not to watch the movie from a literal lens, but like more of a metaphorical lens when you're kind of looking at the director's um other works. So like Birdman is really fantastical and he thinks The Revenant is no different in looking at it through like a fantastical lens.
00:50:47
Speaker
And so that the majority of the movie is glass in purgatory. and his soul being trapped in this middle place and having to be guided through his wife through these trials and tribulations to finally be at rest and have his soul go to that next place.
00:51:05
Speaker
And he kind of just dives deep into like that whole concept. And I really like it. And I think that's a great lens to look at the movie from. So I think the dream sequences to answer a question are perfectly placed and make a lot of sense when you're looking at it from that direction.
00:51:21
Speaker
Yeah, that that makes the final scene make a lot of sense. Yep. The notes I had on the final scene was him kind of going past the purgatory, like seeing past it, like breaking that fourth wall. Like that fourth wall is the, this like jail that he's in basically.
00:51:39
Speaker
And so he sees his wife smile at him and you can assume that he let the revenge go. That's the final test. She walks away. She walks away and his soul is now at rest.
00:51:50
Speaker
So he can be back with the ones he loves. I like that. I think it's a beautiful movie. Now I kind of want to rewatch it with that in mind. For sure. yeah I want to rewatch or I want to watch that essay.
00:52:01
Speaker
Yeah, I'll send it to you guys. um Very good. Let's talk about Leo pulling an Empire Strikes Back. The horse scene. The horse scene. think the people in End of Wall would have been punching the air.
00:52:16
Speaker
They were protesting the movie when it came out. yeah Big guts. m Big horse. Big horse. Could you do that if needed? Would you do it? Or would you get the ick?
00:52:30
Speaker
If needed, I would do it. Yeah.
00:52:34
Speaker
Yeah. I have to. Yeah. I have to avenge my son. Like at that point, you've come so far. Like you know what you have to do.
00:52:45
Speaker
Like he went no hezi, he said, I'm going in that horse. He already crawled out of the grave once. Yeah. Glasses built different. how did he How did he survive the fall?
00:52:57
Speaker
Like I know he hit the tree, but I mean, he's so battered and broken at that point. It's plausible. Like he didn't break any bones. Tachi hates spite fueling people. Tachi's all about forgiveness. It's like a 75 foot drop though.
00:53:16
Speaker
Forgiveness never kept someone alive. He was fueled by hate. Yeah, truly. He really did pull an Empire Strikes Back.
00:53:26
Speaker
Literally. i was listening to... um let's i don't even know what this podcast is called. Best Picture? The next Best Picture? Revenant of the Sith. Yeah. ill highlight like Nice.
00:53:37
Speaker
they um They were talking about Star Wars, and then they brought up the Revenant, and this episode came out like a couple days ago, and I was like, oh, weird timing. We're literally about to talk about that today. um Yeah, I'd go on the horse.
00:53:50
Speaker
Oh, yeah, brother? I'm in that horse. Would you... Okay, let's say you just like saw like a horse that was dead, but it was pretty warm. Would you do it? For fun? Not for fun. I'm in that situation. like i'm not like It's not current day, right? and i don't okay like You're hiking around. You're on like Town Lake Trail.
00:54:09
Speaker
There's a horse. It's dead. I'm not getting in that horse present day. It's gotta be the correct situation. has to be the exact situation Leo was in. If I'm not... You and Tashi camping in Burnett, too. It's like a nice spring day. You're crawling in a horse. We see a horse.
00:54:28
Speaker
see We gotta crawl in this for survival. We gotta do it. We don't have a tent. My horse was just the asleep, too. Oh, my God.
00:54:39
Speaker
How hungry. hey gara I think the craziest bit about this movie, like what he does for survival is not like crying, climbing in the horses, eating all the raw meat.
00:54:52
Speaker
Like he just like raw dogs of fish and then yeah eat some but raw Buffalo meat. I mean, straight Gollum mode. Like the raw meat people gotta be going nuts. Liver King probably loves this movie.
00:55:03
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This is his favorite movie. I had a fun trivia fact about the bison. Oh, here we go. Leonardo DiCaprio chose to devour a raw slab of bison's liver, even though he is vegetarian.
00:55:16
Speaker
He also had to learn to shoot a musket, build a fire, speak two native languages. So he took a bite of the bison's liver. No wonder he threw up on camera.
00:55:28
Speaker
Like that was 100% real. did Okay. So I've heard from vegetarians that if you eat meat, like accidentally or on purpose, like the first couple times you do it, it's not a good time.
00:55:44
Speaker
Like it's the equivalent of us eating like, you know, like a spicy Taco Bell. Now imagine not eating meat and then eating raw bison liver.
00:55:55
Speaker
I think he never will go back to meat because he always thinks of the last time he ate raw bison liver. that like he could walk He could walk by Franklin's and smell the nicest brisket ever cooked in that establishment. And he'll throw up.
00:56:12
Speaker
Raw bison liver. And it's the fact that it's his only Oscar today. He needs another Oscar. just needs to eat more bison liver. I love bison. It's delicious. It's just good beef.
00:56:26
Speaker
It's just good beef. Literally what it is. like It's straight up American beef. None of this Angus. None of this nonsense. I want bison. What about Wagyu?
00:56:39
Speaker
That is not American beef. I know it's not. think there used millions of bison in America. There used to be like stupid amounts of bison in America. Now they're pretty endangered.
00:56:52
Speaker
Have you guys ever seen them in the wild? I've never seen a bison. not I've seen an elk, though. They're so cool. they're so cool If you go to Yellowstone, you will see bison. want to go to Yellowstone. Yellowstone is incredible.
00:57:05
Speaker
I believe it. The American bison is just such a majestic, beautiful creature that we almost hunted to extinction. That's so sad. It's so sad. White people. There's a there's a herd in Oklahoma at the Tallgrass Prairie and Preserve. I think that's the closest like wild herd.
00:57:23
Speaker
I've driven through that preserve on a motorcycle trying to find them, and I couldn't find them. Sounds like that'd be a nice drive, though. It was beautiful. It was gorgeous. I actually think Oklahoma is a little, and especially Eastern Oklahoma is a little underrated.
00:57:37
Speaker
Something about that rolling prairie, that rolling. And there's like true elevation. There was like a river and some trees. It wasn't just flat. There's something about Oklahoma. I was, I was pleasantly sounds enjoying it.
00:57:50
Speaker
touchcha We got to get bikes. I want a bike. We got to go cross country. Bicycle or like motorcycle. Okay. We got a wild hogs this shit. Okay. Okay. I think Wild Hogs is taken by like the Hog like surname for a group.
00:58:05
Speaker
feel like Crankin' Hogs. I like Crankin' Hogs. I feel like we can like integrate Samson's name somewhere, somehow. So it's kind of like a for those who know, know, you know?
00:58:19
Speaker
28 honks later that could be something um one thing i wanted to bring up was the meaning of the word revenant and i think going back to the entire like purgatory and dream thing yeah i think that's relevant uh it is a noun and it means a person who has returned especially supposedly from the dead
00:58:43
Speaker
So I think that kind of just lends its hand in the title itself. But anything that doesn't work here in this movie for you guys. Just want to say I also have that Google tab opened up.
00:58:55
Speaker
The exact same thing. Let's go. definition of Revenant. I didn't have to look it up today. Wow, he already knew. Yesterday when watched the He already knew, okay. I had to look it up when I watched the movie. Oh, when you watched the movie, okay. I was like, what does this mean?
00:59:11
Speaker
Okay. I'm trying to grow my vocabulary. I'm going to use that word like three times this month. In what way? Like if someone comes back to work from being sick and i'd be like, ah, the Revenant.
00:59:22
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Hey, I watched the Revenant the other day. I've seen Stranger Things. but
00:59:33
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Who up Revenant Maxing?
00:59:37
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Don't tell me that. I'm going to have a cortisol spike.
00:59:42
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okay Did Fitzgerald get frame-mogged by glass?
00:59:49
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Bro's literally jester-maxing for a half the
00:59:56
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movie. Tell me, guys, what does not work for you? Back to your question. was a little long. Thought was long? It was long. What is this coming at? 152 minutes? About two and a half hours? Yeah. yeah It's pretty long.
01:00:09
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I guess some parts of some sequences could be taken out. Maybe just like polished a bit. Like I saw a lot of the reviews were just like, if you took out every, uh, like shot of trees, this movie is 10 minutes long.
01:00:21
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I'm like, all right, that's that's a little funny. We can, we can, we joke. We like to make jokes here. We jest. We jest to Max.
01:00:33
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Yeah, I don't know. I just I love everything about this movie. Actually, I don't know if there's any one thing I would change. I agree that it is a ah little bit long. I was surprised to see a two and a half hour runtime.
01:00:48
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Maybe like a 210. I'd be comfortable around two. I think you can. You can get a story across. You can get the story across and the same. I think you can capture the same feelings, the same emotions and really not miss a beat.
01:01:06
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Shaving like a good chunk off, like not specific scenes, but just like here and there. Get it down to two hours. But this is what we got. And I'm not pissed about it. But if I have to say something.
01:01:18
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Derogatory or negative. than i Not derogatory. That was the wrong word. So it sounds like it's a good reviews from you guys. That's all you got. i liked it.
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It's a
Awards and Oscar Debate
01:01:30
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good movie. Now, how do we feel about this being ah Leo's one and only Oscar? Let's talk. Now that history with the Oscars.
01:01:40
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That is where I might get a little spicy. All right. We'll hear you first. Because I don't think this was his top three role.
01:01:53
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Not even sure if it's top five. I agree. You know, go to his filmography. Do you think what else was nominated this year? First of all. Okay. Or which category specifically?
01:02:06
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Best actor. All right. Actor in a leading role. So this movie was nominated. This was the 88th Academy Awards. This was in 2016. You had Leonardo DiCaprio for The Revenant. Bryan Cranston for Trumbo.
01:02:18
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What? Never heard of What? That movie's made up. Matt Damon for The Martian. Uh-huh. Michael Fassbender for Steve Jobs. And Eddie Redmayne in The Danish Girl.
01:02:30
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Hmm...
01:02:34
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Okay. I don't know what Trumbo is or the Danish or the danish girl. Was Eddie a Danish girl? I guess so. That's neat. um I like The Martian a lot, and I like Matt Damon in The Martian.
01:02:48
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What is Trumbo? Dalton Trumbo. It's a biographical drama film about Dalton Trumbo. Who? Yeah, who is that?
01:03:00
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Okay, here we go. stars Brian Cranston, Diane Lane, Helen Mirren, Louis C. Louis C.K. L. Fanning, John Goodman, Michael Stuhlbarg, Edward G. Robinson, Dean O'Gorman, and Kirk Douglas.
01:03:19
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I don't know. It is It was distributed by Bleecker Street. OK. Dalton Trumbo was an American screenwriter who scripted many award winning films, including Roman Holiday, Goated, Exodus, Spartacus, 30 Seconds Over Tokyo.
01:03:38
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One of the Hollywood 10, he refused to testify before the House Un-American Activities Committee in 1947 during the committee's investigation of communist influences in the motion picture industry. Trumbo, the other members of the Hollywood 10, and hundreds of other professionals in the industry were blacklisted by Hollywood.
01:03:59
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Interesting.
01:04:02
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Oh, I guess his work for... un So, okay. He continued working clandestinely on major films, writing under pseudonyms or other authors' names. His uncredited work won two Academy Awards for Best Story, for Roman Holiday, which was presented to a front writer, and for The Brave One, which was awarded to a pseudonym used by Trumbo.
01:04:24
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Interesting. Roman Holiday is a good movie. That kind of sounds like an interesting movie, then. He didn't win though, but those were his, uh, that's who he was competing against. Does this feel just like a, okay, we finally have to give Leo an Oscar because the running gag of the Oscars for years has been Leo not having one.
01:04:44
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Right. Yeah. When he should. And this was, I remember people, most people were just like, this is the one that we're to give it to him for. Like, And I feel like since I hadn't seen the movie in 10 years, I had a preconceived notion going into this that this movie was just fine from everyone's conversations and knowing that like, oh, that's the movie that Leo got his Oscar from. But everybody kind of disagreeing that it should not have been this movie. So.
01:05:15
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Sounds like we kind of think the same thing. I'm fine with him winning against the competition that he had. Agreed. i I do agree that it's probably not his best role.
01:05:28
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Just looking at ah his filmography, there are some bangers in there. What would you say are his top three? we can do three, maybe extend it to five if we get undecided. Ooh, I like this game.
01:05:40
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The Departed's got to be up there. Shutter Island heads? Anyone? haven't seen in long. i would've own i watch i would I don't think I'd put it top three, but I do like Shutter Island.
01:05:52
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I don't remember Django. I need to rewatch it. i also need rewatch Wolf Wall Street. Oh, but you would just know. i I think for me, and this is i think the best thing about this filmography is there's so many great performances. yep I think Wolf.
01:06:12
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I think Killers of the Flower Moon. And I'm going to go crazy here. I think what's eating Gilbert crepe. Oh, I need to see that. It's on my watch list.
01:06:24
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Leo goes.
01:06:27
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Yeah, crazy. in this movie Like he doesn't seem like he's acting. I'll put it that way.
01:06:41
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They parried this in Tropic Thunder. that Is that who they're kind of poking fun at? Yeah. yeah For me,
01:06:52
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i might have to go... I gotta go basic. There's a reason Wolf of Wall Street is a film bro movie. yeah I'm not saying it's my number one. It's so good. Yeah, I'm not saying number one performance, but that is top three performance for me.
01:07:05
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um A favorite for me, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. So good. He's like, he's like on ah he's ah he's on a weird other level in that movie.
01:07:16
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Like it's not his most um like boisterous performance, but dude's like dialed in. That whole sequence when he's at the film set it's so is so good. Especially when he's pissed when he goes back to his trailer.
01:07:30
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So funny. So good. We forgot a bit of movie news. What? What? What did we think about the Super Bowl commercial for The Adventures of Cliff Booth?
01:07:41
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Oh, we did not talk about that. So I didn't see it live. I watched it after. It was like a someone recorded it on their TV. um I'm in. I'm in too.
01:07:52
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I don't know. I didn't see it. it's It hasn't been released yet. It was weird because there was no indication into what it was. You either you like had to know what it was. There was no Netflix logo.
01:08:05
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There was no title card. There a Netflix logo. Was there? Yes, right at the very end there was one. Okay, Netflix logo, but no title card. There was no title card. No directed by David Fincher. No written by Quentin Tarantino.
01:08:18
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Just here. Brad Pitt. In the 70s. Frame mogging. Yeah. I'm in. um um I might go Titanic, guys.
01:08:33
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I simply wouldn't have crashed the boat. iceberg Here's the thing, though. As I'm watching this movie, we've been I've been talking about all the things that I love about this movie now. I'm solid and like my feelings of this not being like an Oscar worth quote unquote Oscar where the performance from Leo, I think it's his most like demanding role that he's ever done probably like physically like I wouldn't be surprised with that.
01:08:57
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What I did think this movie, like this was before I saw what it was nominated for. I was like directing for sure. Right. And cinematography, like the entire like movie, like as a whole,
01:09:10
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I think is very, very well put together. Very immersive. But if we're talking about performances, like I would choose Tom Hardy over Leo performance wise in this. Really? and Tom Hardy's isn't as like physically demanding. Sure.
01:09:24
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it's like what really like kind of goes into a category. Like, is it like the actual like line delivery or there more physicality with it? I don't know. But like for going line delivery performance. Yeah.
01:09:36
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I like Tom Hardy more than Leo. Tom Hardy was sick. So good. It was so good. The other categories this movie was nominated for was Best Picture, Director, Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor, Best Cinematography, Best Editing, Best Makeup, Best Original Score, Sound Editing, Sound Mixing. i don't know about that one. Production Design and Best Visual Effects.
01:09:59
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And it walked away that night with Best Cinematography, Best Director, Best Actor, and that's it. I mean, those are pretty important. Those are three big ones. Yeah.
01:10:14
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um Let's see what it was nominated alongside with for best picture for that year. Ready? Spotlight. You guys remember that one? Nope. I haven't seen Spotlight. I have not seen that either.
01:10:27
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ah The Big Short. Oh. Bridge of Spies. Brooklyn. Mad Max Fury Road. wo The Martian. The Revenant.
01:10:38
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And Room. Kind of a, I feel like that's kind of a weak year. Yeah. It doesn't seem like there's any like one. I mean, granted, i haven't seen like half of them.
01:10:51
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I don't know what Brooklyn is.
01:10:54
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I didn't know half of those. Yeah.
Spotlight and Domino Gleeson
01:10:57
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Who won? Was it Mad Max? Spotlight. Oh. what What is that? Spotlight ah came out in 2015. It stars Michael Keaton, Mark Ruffalo, and Rachel McAdams.
01:11:09
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um It's about journalists doing an investigation. ah yeah It's about how like the Catholic Church pedo scandal got broken that's right at the Boston Globe. yeah yeah That sounds familiar now.
01:11:24
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Brooklyn, two countries, two loves, one heart. What? 1950s Ireland and New York, young Eyeless Lacy has to choose between two men and two countries, starring Saoirse Ronan, Damal Gleeson, Emery Cohen, that's it.
01:11:42
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Wow, so Damal Gleeson is in another Best Picture nominee, and Tom Hardy is also in another Best Picture nominee that year. Yep. Wow. Domino Gleeson was busy in 2015. I think that was The Force Awakens as well.
01:11:57
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I think so. Where is he now? I don't think I've seen him this decade yet. I have. I feel like I have.
01:12:06
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Computer, show me where Domino Gleeson is.
01:12:11
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He's right behind you. um Oh, he's in that show The Paper. He's in The Office spinoff. That's right. He's in Echo Valley, which was one of Sidney Sweeney's flops this year. That's not here.
01:12:26
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Poor choice. Didn't know that. Oh, he was in Peter Rabbit 2, The Runaway. Oh, cool. Is that the animated rabbit movie? I think it's like hybrid.
01:12:40
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Like Sonic? Yeah, I think it is actually just like Sonic. Maybe he's going through a phase. m i hope I'm going to help him. Yeah, it but You directed by Will Gluck.
01:12:55
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What a name. Don't shame him for his name. he also directed Anyone But You and Easy A and Friends With Benefits and then both Peter Rabbit movies. Okay, we like Will Gluck. I like him. Oh, and then Annie. Annie.
01:13:15
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like Little Orphan Annie. Yeah. But it looks like it's a modern version. Jamie Foxx is in this movie.
01:13:25
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Dude, he's just in the weirdest movies. Jamie Foxx is such an interesting career. Like, he just... He seems like a fun hang. Yeah, probably. Yeah. He's funny.
01:13:37
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mean, he's in, like, Django Unchained, Baby Driver... you know, Amazing Spider-Man 2, Collateral, Miami Vice, and then he's in like, he's in like Rio.
01:13:53
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Another Domino Gleeson movie that came out in 2015, Ex Machina. Bro was busy. Oh, wow. That's crazy. What year for him.
Ratings and Mystical Elements
01:14:01
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i love that movie. I do feel like his face was around yeah a lot more.
01:14:08
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Interesting guy. Mm-hmm.
01:14:12
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Any last thoughts on Revenant?
01:14:16
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Go see it. In IMAX. It's a good time. Yeah, it's in IMAX. you should it's I think it'd look really great in IMAX. Oh my god, I bet. always sounds incredible.
01:14:28
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Thanks for picking this one, Tachi. Yeah. Are we ready for scores? Yeah. Do you go first, birthday boy. So, first time I watched it, I gave it a five star.
01:14:42
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Second time I watched it, I'm giving it a five star. There we go. I love this movie. It rips. It does. Who's next? The first time I watched it, which is right now, I gave it a four out of five.
01:14:56
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All right. Nice.
01:15:00
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um i'm gonna give this a five out of five hell yeah this oh wow i guess i'm a hater like you're not no you're it's totally you're totally good the first time i gave i watched it i gave it four out of five that was 10 years ago yeah watching it this time it just i think it struck a different chord with me and then like i said watching the youtube video and watching seeing it like through that lens just it just makes sense Like, this movie just clicks. It just makes sense to me. Let's go.
01:15:30
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i think I really like the idea of a director and writer taking the true story of something extravagant like this and throwing some mystic touches to it and have it be this reflection on life and lost souls and mother nature.
01:15:57
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I think that's just badass and super cool. And it was very well done. Where's the line where that becomes distasteful? Like, could you make a mystic movie about like nine 11 and,
01:16:09
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Oh, no. No. This is
01:16:18
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Give me your pitch for this movie right now. What is it? The 9-11 Mystic movie? What's the tagline? They found in love a thousand feet in the air.
01:16:32
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um don't even know what that would be. i think that's the line. A little bit before that there's a line.
01:16:40
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I don't know. It's your question. ah i think taking the story of a guy who got mauled by a bear and survived to tell the tale is okay. In the 1820s, it's okay to do a little zhuzhing.
01:16:56
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So in 200 years, it'll be okay to make a mystic movie about 9-11? I don't think 9-11. I think that's still... you want to this movie? I dont really want to make this movie.
01:17:06
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I will make this movie. But like, where' okay but where's the line? Okay, but like, could you do about the Kennedy assassination? Sure.
01:17:19
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I think the line, i this feels fine because it's like, ah I might be back myself with the recording here, but we'll see. Because it's like a singular person's story.
01:17:31
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of survival so it's like 127 hours the james franco movie like if they did that and with a little bit more like mysticism i don't know if that's a word i think that could work like something like that but like you can't do something that affected a nation could they why not like ive um Like, why not?
01:17:55
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It's a historical event. We have to do it and you see what happens. Alex, i hope you never forget about this idea.
01:18:05
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hope you run with it. I hope you run in the woods with it. mean, I guess in a weird sense, it's kind of like Donnie Darko. Planes crash into buildings in Donnie Darko.
01:18:17
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Mm-hmm. But it's not specifically 9-11. It sounds like you want to do... Fight Club's kind of like that. 9-11. You just do Donnie Darko, but he goes to work.
01:18:28
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Remember Me But With More Twists. Crazy into a movie.
Bear Trivia and Encounters
01:18:34
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Alex, you got some bear trivia for us. I do have some bear trivia, but I want to say one thing before we dive into the bear trivia. It's not about 9-11 or Kennedy. Okay, I don't believe him.
01:18:44
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Dom Hall Gleeson was in a movie in 2025 called Fountain of Youth, directed by Guy Ritchie. I had no idea this movie came out, and I actually like Guy Ritchie for the most part.
01:18:56
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The best secrets are the hardest to find. A treasure hunting mastermind assembles a team for a life-changing adventure, but to outwit and outrun threats at every turn, he'll need someone even smarter than he is.
01:19:09
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His estranged sister. Starring John Krasinski, Natalie Portman, Elisa Gonz... er... Isa Gonzalez. I always thought there was an L in her name. Domol Gleason.
01:19:21
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And Stanley Tucci. And Daniel Tucci, yeah. 2.2 out of 5 on Letterboxd. Beautiful. It's an Apple TV original. Oh. He's in a movie this year called The Incomer.
01:19:34
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that's... Mmm.
01:19:38
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Could be spicy. Looks like we just bought tickets, boys.
01:19:45
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Oh, speaking of mythic or mystical, there's a the synopsis for the Incomer. On an Orkney Isle, siblings Island Sandy hunt birds and talk to mythical beings while fighting off outsiders.
01:19:58
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Their lives change when Daniel, an awkward official, arrives to relocate them. Oh. there's our There's our mystical movie. Interesting. Anyways. That's my 2026 list. We do have bare tri bear trivia. Bear trivia. Let's do it.
01:20:13
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Back by popular demand, a.k.a. a me.
01:20:19
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That was my bear sound. Bears don't bark. They kind of growl. ah man Oh, wow. That's kind of good. a
01:20:33
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Put your mouth around that mic again.
01:20:38
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All right. Question number one. We got nine questions. Okay.
01:20:45
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True or false? Bears can see in color unlike other mammals. True. True. Why not? That is true. Let's go. Bears see in color.
01:20:57
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So they can discriminate.
01:21:01
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Racist bears. Wait, does that mean cocaine bear looked at that thing? It was like, look at all this ivory white and then sorted it. I better knew what it was doing. Great movie.
01:21:13
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we How fast can grizzly bears run? Closest person wins. I'm going to say run 50 miles an 35 miles an hour.
01:21:28
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thirty-five miles an hour Malik is closer. It's 30. Although apparently there are rumors that it is 35, but like the fastest any bears have ever been clocked is 30.
01:21:41
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Can they climb faster than they can run? i think that's black bears. i don't think grizzly bears climb trees. Okay. Oh, really? Yeah. Imagine a bear with 50. That would be insane. 30 is already crazy. 30 is like a school zone. Imagine a school zone.
01:22:01
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And how much faster 50 feels in a 30?
01:22:05
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And it's a grizzly bear. Grizzly bears are just huge. Charging you.
01:22:12
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That's terrifying. it'd be like Samson running at you.
01:22:18
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Name from the following bears. The ones that are exclusively carnivores. Black bears, grizzly bears, Kodiak bears, polar bears, sun bears, and panda bears.
01:22:35
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Exclusively carnivores. Which ones are exclusively carnivores? Polar. Okay.
01:22:42
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Grizzly? I think grizzlies eat salmon. Oh, wait, What are the bears that... That's Winnie the Pooh. They eat honey. um There's got to be some bears that eat honey.
01:22:57
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That had to be based on something. They did not make that up. i don't think there are bears in England. Damn. Oh, honey. Oh, bubba.
01:23:09
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Oh.
01:23:13
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I'm going to black, polar, Panda. Those are my three. No. Panda... Don't tell me that I'm wrong. Okay. already said no.
01:23:26
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Did you say sun bear? What's a sun bear? Yeah, sun bear. Sun bear is like freaky out look looking ones. They they look a little weird. They got like the white... They're like the fluffy black fur. They like the white like thing here. Okay, I'll go... Yeah, polar.
01:23:44
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Grizzly. And... Kodiak?
01:23:51
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Is everyone locking in answers? Yeah. You're both wrong. It's just polar bears. God damn it. All other bears are omnivores. I didn't know there were such things as Kodiak Bears. I thought that was just the name of my pancake mix.
01:24:07
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No, Kodiak Bears are the, like, it's a i think a subtype of grizzly that live on Kodiak Island. Is that where they look a lot like grizzly bears? But they're bigger. They're bigger, cris they're bigger meaner grizzly bears.
01:24:18
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That makes sense. Which is crazy. It makes sense that it's reason it's my pancake And there's literally just one island full of them. That's crazy. You ever tried the Kodiak Pancakes, Tachi? Yeah, they're good. The protein ones? Shout to our new sponsor. Kodiak. Get yonked.
01:24:33
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I think Kodiak bears. or i mean i Do grizzly bears live on Kodiak Island? and Where is Kodiak Island? yeah In Alaska.
01:24:47
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i'm just I'm trying to remember. Where did Timothy Treadwell go? like The grizzly man guy.
01:24:54
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Where did he go? Where did he summer? Because it was one of the Alaskan like parks. are they He kind of wasn't supposed to go there. Oh, he was in Catmai.
01:25:05
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Wild documentary if you if you haven't seen it. It's like ah Into the Wild, but even more like, what is this guy thinking? fun Send me that.
01:25:17
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i will. I will. A newly born Kodiak bear can weigh how much?
01:25:30
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200 pounds.
01:25:34
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Which season? Like, you know, when they're born, like when they're born, like what can they weigh? i um A newborn Kodiak bear. I'll say 150.
01:25:48
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onefi No, 100.
01:25:54
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nope No, 125.
01:25:58
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Locked it in. Apparently, a newborn Kodiak bear typically weighs between one to one and a half pounds at birth.
01:26:09
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What? Well, you're closest. How big? How much do Kodiak bears weigh in adulthood? A ton. i'll say I'll say half a ton. A thousand.
01:26:23
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They can weigh up to... I thought a ton was... No, ton is 2,000. Oh, I thought a ton was 1,000. They can weigh up to 1,500 pounds gee in adulthood. Talk about a growth spurt.
01:26:36
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Literally. Me, when I'm bulking. On Kodiak pancakes. If human babies grew this much, as adults, we would be 6,000 pounds.
01:26:50
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ah And we would also be huge. I got to get there. The gigabulk.
01:27:04
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Bulk maxing. How did Teddy Bear come into the lexicon? Theodore Roosevelt. What did he do? He ah adopted one.
01:27:17
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Or killed one? He saved... I think he saved one. He adopted just kill And then he stuffed it when it died. I'm just kidding. don't know. Oh, that actually sounds likely. to say he adopted it and then killed it, but I know that's not fully the truth.
01:27:32
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So Tachi's the most right. Whoa. Teddy Roosevelt refused to shoot a black bear cub on a hunting trip. And then like a cartoon featured the event, and soon stuffed toy manufacturers started making teddy bears.
01:27:51
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Propaganda. I had a teddy bear growing up that I named Teddy. had two. There was TT, who was apparently like my favorite thing when I was a baby, and he is adorable. And Teddy, which was the other one, who was also pretty goaded.
01:28:04
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I know where TT is. I don't know where Teddy is. I still think Teddy's around like in the in my parents' house somewhere. That sounds kind of scary. They can?
01:28:16
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he like Can bears be goaded? Yeah, dude, TT, if i I... Mom and Dad, can you send a picture of TT because he's adorable? They listen, so they'll send the picture in the chat. Get me a picture of TT, yes.
01:28:31
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On average, how many bear attacks are there in a year in North America? Four.
01:28:40
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For dozen. No. I changed my answer. i changed my answer Two. I'll say 15. Malik, now I'm ahead. The average about one to two. Let's go.
01:28:54
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It's not likely. Leave him alone.
01:29:00
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How many u states can you find grizzly bears in?
01:29:07
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Seven. Eight. o Damn.
01:29:11
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Let's see. The answer is five. And even then, that's that that's stretching it. So grizzlies are in Alaska. to are in Montana.
01:29:30
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about six hundred grizzlies are in wyoming in washington there's about five hundred and in idaho there's about a hundred This is like wild population, obviously, because there's probably like a grizzly in Texas in like someone's house.
01:29:47
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There's got to be. of these freaks has one. I know they do. Now, this one's... I hear it. In the same vein, how many U.S. states historically could you find grizzly bears in? What was the previous answer? How far back?
01:30:06
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like are we um Beginning of time to yesterday. Are we going like 13 colonies era? Well, no. State. no this is This says post-glacial.
01:30:18
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So pretty far back. So let's go with that. So... And then like historic is probably around the time of like the Revenant. I'm going say... It was five currently now. I'm going to say...
01:30:40
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go... 15.
01:30:43
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fifteen i think Malik's closer. It's 26. Let's go. They got as far south as Texas.
01:30:55
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Whoa. And post-glacial, they got as far east as Pennsylvania. Wow. Wow.
01:31:04
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I need to know more about postglacial. The range, it's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
01:31:18
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Postglacial is 17, 18. Oh, sorry. ah sorry It's like 18 states, it looks like. i might I may have counted up, maybe 19, because Arkansas is peeking through there. Okay, well then, talk to you.
01:31:30
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They got as far east as like Missouri and like the historic range. That's crazy. but um They were in Texas, they were in Oklahoma, all through Mexico. They used to be everywhere, and we kind of hunted them into nowhere.
01:31:46
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Sad. Sad. truly we We do be doing that a lot. Mm-hmm.
01:31:53
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And the final question, how many bears has Alex seen in the wild?
01:32:01
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Which bear is best? Bears. Beats. Battlestar Galactica. How many bears or how many types of bears?
01:32:12
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how Like just straight bears. All bears. All bears. Do TT and Teddy count. No. okay In the wild. You're a wild man. I'll say
01:32:27
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at least three. I'm going to say zero.
01:32:36
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Tachi, you're the closest. I have seen, and i it could be a little bit more than this, i think it's seven bears. Whoa. I've never seen a bear. I saw three in Yellowstone, two black bears and a grizzly.
01:32:52
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I saw three riding my motorcycle in Georgia. I came around a bend and there was a mama and I remember two cubs. It could be three. i need to go back and look at the GoPro footage.
01:33:05
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um And then I saw one in Vermont, a black bear.
01:33:11
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Wow. I love nature. i gotta, I gotta see a bear. I've seen one bear. It was a bear cub. This was back in ah in Tennessee in Gatlinburg.
01:33:22
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We were were pulling around the corner on this like the tight little mountain road. And we scare the bear and it falls backwards down somewhere off the road. Off the mountain side. Bye bye bear. were We're sure it's fine. It's just Gatlinburg. It's not that steep.
01:33:43
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I love bears. Black bears are so cute. I've seen pictures. They're really cute. Grizzlies are not cute. We saw a thing from across like a valley from the other side of like a river.
01:33:54
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You could just tell me it meant business. That's terrifying. There's a whole movie about getting attacked by a grizzly bear actually. Really? What's it called? It's called The Revenant.
01:34:05
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Go watch it. ah I haven't seen it. Anything else for me guys?
01:34:13
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Pandas eat bamboo. Oh. See, I thought it was going to be a trick question because was like, I know pandas eat bamboo, but I bet when they're when they get buck wild, they'll take an arm off.
01:34:27
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But I guess not. They only eat bamboo exclusively? I think. Maybe. That's crazy. Pandas, I don't think actually exist in the wild. They're so useless.
01:34:40
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yeah i amazing the videos for them in the zoo and They're just
01:34:46
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This is not a real animal. It's like they don't have bones. They're cute though. They're adorable. Alright, three things I've taken from from this episode. We need to get motorcycles.
01:34:59
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We need to drive them. And we need to see bears. Welcome to the show. We need to get some hogs to ride for sure. yeah Also, this is a long episode i watch out yeah long episode. We're recording an hour and 40 minutes. Long episode for a long movie. If you're still here, thank you. um Go watch The Revenant. It's going to be out in theaters in like a week by the time you hear this episode. Worth it.
01:35:25
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If the last time you saw it was 10 years ago, do yourself a favor. Go watch it again. Actually, now it would be like 11 years ago. Stop. Okay. Support IMAX.
01:35:36
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You're right. Yeah. Support IMAX. Go watch The Revenant. Will Leo get his second Oscar? Will he overcome the bison liver? We'll find out soon.
01:35:47
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Thank you so much for listening. We'll see you guys in the next one. Peace. Bye.