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Introduction to Project Hail Mary & Dune 3
00:00:15
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secret government project to save planet earth what are we some kind of hail mary project that was the original quote in the book right didn't read it something like i'm gonna guess so yeah that was the tagline it's a wonderful title welcome back to lost in the frame i'm your host alex i'm your host malik i'm your host tachi And today we are going to be talking about the new smash hit, at least from what I've seen. This is a hit.
00:00:50
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Ryan Gosling movie, Project Hail Mary. A new movie in our I'm Him repository. It's, you know, and it's it's going right in there. Like it's it's slotted right in there.
00:01:01
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It's thrilling, but we'll discuss it. But first, we got to get into some movie news. And the most important piece of news for this week...
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Dune 3 trailer. Guys, that has been in my head. It's so hype. love it so so much. It so looks so good. i don't think I don't think we've really talked about Dune on this podcast.
00:01:29
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There hasn't really been a need or anything happening in the last year. By the way, we're about to hit a year of loss in the frame, which is a lot of fun. um This podcast is going to be dune pilled for the rest of the year. Oh, it's going to be crazy.
00:01:44
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Yeah. Just just wait till we get the Batman next year. Oh, my God. Is it next year? 2027 year? We'll see. Yeah. Whenever that trailer drops, it's going to be hype. But just like ah the Spider-Verse.
00:01:59
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Yeah. that and that doesn't I've resigned myself to the fact that movie's never coming out. I was on TikTok the other day and Shameik Moore was on live. um And I tried to screen record it because it seemed like he was on some bullshit. like He's been. But as soon as I got on, he ended it.
00:02:16
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But the last the only words I heard before I record it was I'm coming for y'all. Don't y'all worry. Don't y'all worry. And then he ended that a threat against Haley? It might have been.
00:02:31
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the Buffalo Bills are have extra security now because Shameik's coming for them. Anyway, Dune trailer.
00:02:42
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I'm sad we didn't get this in front of Project Hail Mary. For those that did, you were very lucky. We had a terrible trailer trailer slate. It was just like, I don't care. what did ah What all was there?
00:02:53
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You had the the D-Day weather movie. Which, like, sure, okay. Oh, the Brennan Fraser? Yeah, like, Pressure. Yeah.
00:03:04
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That looked like a like a Hallmark movie with a big budget. I, you know, I love, I love history, and I think World War II, I'm a World War II guy when it comes to, like, every every guy, like, has, like, the war they're really into, like, see Civil War, like, I'm a World War II guy.
00:03:27
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And I just, I'm like, i didn't need a movie about the weather. I didn't need a movie about the weather. I wasn't really paying attention to that trailer. I was on my phone trying to order some snacks at Alamo. We need talk about that at some point. I know we have a ah packed slate today, so we're going to put a pin in that.
00:03:47
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Yeah. Yeah. element stuff yeah yeah yeah I definitely have thoughts. um I shielded my eyes from the Disclosure Day trailer. Still have not seen it. Don't want to see it, but that's the most I've heard.
00:04:02
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um Can I say something about that trailer? Sure. i hate the way the alien noise sounds.
00:04:10
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like the it It sounds like someone's like gagging.
00:04:17
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Yeah, Steven Spielberg's going to have the theater gagging at how good it's going to be. We can hope.
00:04:26
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I hope. What else was in front of our movie? they They did seem like forgettable movies. Like so much that you texted us right before it started. You're like awful slate of movies. I was pissed. That's saying something.
00:04:38
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um After the Dune trailer, we got the Spider-Man brand new day trailer. Yep.
Trailer Reactions: Spider-Man vs. Dune 3
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I'll throw it to you guys first. What did you think? It looks like markedly better than how the original trilogy were shot.
00:04:53
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um i don't, I don't like what John Watts did with the the first three movies. um I know Daniel Day Cretton is, you know, at least in my opinion, a much more talented director.
00:05:07
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um He did a great job with Shang-Chi, but It at least looks better. It's shot a lot more interestingly, and the colors are actually present. I just... I love Spider-Man, and I like that this is going back to like ah like a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man type thing instead of like Spider-Man in space or Spider-Man with dimensions.
00:05:34
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So... agree I'm consciously optimistic, but i I'm interested to see what kind of shenanigans they pull to get like the memory back. Yeah, it to me, the parts that I'm happy for are exactly what you said, getting to more of like that focused Spider-Man level. I was never a fan of Iron Boy Jr. I think Iron Boy Jr. was like a fair nickname. I was never stoked about that. Iron Boy Jr., I love that. Yeah, so it's fun to see this go, hopefully, in a different direction.
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um I gotta be honest, though. like I did kind of feel nothing watching that trailer. Yeah. Like, I don't know where my expectations are at like I'm going to watch it, but I'm just kind of it.
00:06:20
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I saw it and i was like, all right, that's what it is. There are certainly levels to this. And when you compare this to Dune 3, it's just kind of sad. But
Cultural Impact: Dune vs. Marvel Release
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it will be better than the first three movies.
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And fingers crossed for some actual web swinging. We'll see. Yeah, we will see. um Before we get in into the movie, I wanted to see talking about Dune and Spider-Man. Basically Dune and Marvel.
00:06:44
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How do you guys feel about... neither movie dune 3 or doomsday moving for their release it's december 18th is that good or is that bad i don't know i think good i think people to the movies i think i said it before on the pod but i think this could be like a major like cultural watershed moment yeah that's kind of where i'm at This doesn't feel like an organic fun time at the movies. Barbenheimer. I think this is going to determine.
00:07:19
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Our future. Our future from a pop culture standpoint for for cinema from like a Disney Marvel perspective. Has there ever been like a matchup like this on a Marvel release? don't know.
00:07:34
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And I think this this particular Marvel release is very important because they have not been doing well post-COVID. like I think a majority of their movies post-COVID have like not even cracked the half a billion.
00:07:47
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So they're kind of just sinking money in this. I mean, Thunderbolts was a ah financial flop. It was. And it was the best thing they've done. It was the best thing they've done in the last five years. Like like since Endgame, I would say.
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And so... And they're goingnna learn they're going to learn the wrong lessons from it. Yeah. So for Dune to be so confident to go up against Marvel... And Spider-Man specifically. Yeah.
00:08:13
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That we're not... That they're not going to move and that they got the IMAX screens for that weekend. Like, I think it says a lot. And I think even if Doomsday does better financially, i think the fact that Dune is like kind of just sticking up, like it feels like a battle. It doesn't feel like a Barbenheimer like collab. It feels like a battle.
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What do you guys think about them dropping the name Doom Messiah and doing just Dune part three? Um, from what I've seen online, i think for those that have like read the books specifically, um, just cause with the first two movies, like there are changes that Denis has done from the books and additions to make the story flow better.
00:08:59
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What I've heard doing Messiah is kind of a mess. So from this trailer, it seems like he's doing what people thought he was going to do, which was kind of, um, Do like the back half of the like a little like the last parts of the Dune book and parts of Messiah.
00:09:18
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I'm not sure. Is that accurate? ah Messiah is yeah I wouldn't say it's a mess. I think it's pretty straightforward. I think it's a mess to adapt after the changes from the Dune movies. Mm hmm.
00:09:33
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But the the thing that find funny is it's like they're building this as like, oh, the conclusion of Dune. But Messiah is very like transitionary. Like it feels like it's bridging Dune to to Children of Dune.
00:09:47
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Whereas like you have like it's it's very short. It's like half the length of Dune. Oh, OK. And. It's like. Yeah, it just it feels like it's leading into something else.
00:10:02
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Well, Denis is done. Like, this is his trilogy. And so I think it's like maybe... not giving it like a book and to give like Warner Brothers, the ability to make more spinoffs and, and doing adaptations if they want to go beyond Messiah, if they want to go the children of Dune route. But I think for Denis, like this is his trilogy.
00:10:23
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Like this can probably just stand on its own, similar to how they did Lord of the rings, all of the Hobbit. Maybe that's kind of what we'll get. So they kind of maybe wanted to leave that door open. i'm I'm trusting a thousand percent. I'm i'm all Yeah.
00:10:35
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Yeah. Oh um yeah. I've got stock.
00:10:40
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My mortgage rests on this movie. One more time before Project Hail Mary.
00:10:47
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I was a Jaegerist and now I'm with Paul. Oh my ah ah irm Actually, paul is the bad guy. and it's like and i'll Shut up. He's Luson Al-Gaib. He's Luson Al-Gaib.
00:11:06
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I literally made my truck after him. Come on. Of course I'm going to follow him.
00:11:12
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ah Let's get into the movie. Project Hail Mary.
In-depth Review: Project Hail Mary
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This is the newest film starring Ryan Gosling, directed by Phil Lord and Christopher Miller. I'll read the synopsis and then we'll get into our letterbox love like loathe.
00:11:26
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This one's kind of long. Science teacher Rylan Grace wakes up on a spaceship light years from home with no recollection of who he is or how he got there. As his memory returns, he begins to uncover his mission, solve the riddle of the mysterious substance causing the sun to die out.
00:11:39
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He must call out. This is a very long synopsis. We got it. It had like three more sentences. um This is starring Ryan Gosling, Sandra Huller, James Ortiz, Lionel Boyce, and a handful of others.
00:11:54
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f um I have our five star today. Alex has the three and Tachi with the one. And then we will get into our thoughts and feelings on Project Hail Mary. This five star comes from Todd.
00:12:08
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I have not been arsed about the cinema recently, and I almost didn't bother seeing this either. Thank fuck I did. Blockbuster cinema at its finest. I am floored. So I have our three star today, and I have a pretty...
00:12:23
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i I'll just read it. Again, this this is written the way it's it's it's written. um This is from Brandon Reviews.
00:12:34
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Three stars. I saw this film last night with a packed theater, and to be honest, I'm not disappointed even though I gave it a three. i could maybe rewatch it one day, but this is a heartfelt movie, and it felt like a Disney movie with a budget of $200 million. There were some funny moments, but the movie itself dragged on. For so long, it should have been like one hour and 40 minutes or a bit more. This isn't a bad movie at all. The cinematography is unbelievable. But besides that, there's nothing to love. The performances by Sandra and Ryan are great, but nothing spectacular. This film is like the train dreams and F1 of last year and like an iron claw. This is not at all a top 500 movie at all. This should not be a 4.4. It should be around 3.8 or 3.9 for the highest
00:13:15
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Maybe if I read the book, I would have been different. But for most movies, I don't read the book. So that'll be just unfair. I watch all films. I love mainly everything. And I just didn't connect with anything in this, especially The Rock. This is a family movie like The Up or Wall-E. But some scenes seem more kid-like. But I don't know. Maybe I'm a cold-hearted person. But out of a score of five, I would give 2.9 a 3.1.
00:13:40
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oh like ah So not a single period. Was that all a run on sentence? It didn't even end in a period.
00:13:51
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Bro still going somewhere. actually i lost the original review. how was going to read, which had like a point that I really wanted to talk about, which sucks. But um yeah, that one I just saw it. I was like, whoa.
00:14:06
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Well, unfortunately, this guy like you can't even I can't even hate on him too much because his top four are bangers. What is top four? Heat, Parasite, Killers of the Flower Moon, and Vertigo.
00:14:18
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Oh, dude knows ball. He knows ball. feel like we could base our entire discussion off of every point he made in his review. We could just go line by line. Probably. That's crazy.
00:14:30
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All right, Tachi, got our one. Yeah, this comes in from Jason. 2001, a space odyssey for people who ask for no onions on their burger.
00:14:40
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Sure. Thanks, Jason. You know, I'm a no onions guy sometimes. It depends. I don't like a big chunky onion.
00:14:51
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i like ah I like a chopped grilled onion. Oh, grilled onions, dude. Yeah, grilled onions is is where it's at. sure. um what were you guys's expectations going into this tachi you and i read the book and minutes minutes before the movie um yeah i'll throw it to you first like after you read the book like what was your like initial feeling with the book and how excited were you for the movie i'm just gonna say right now i've been thinking about this for the last couple days and uh
00:15:24
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The book is a straight up 10 out of 10. The book is incredible. Like genuinely. Wow. I think a top three book that I've ever read. Wow.
00:15:34
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Yeah. i I really, really like this book. um So I was super excited ah with that in combination with the the raving early reviews or early reactions to the movie.
00:15:48
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um Expectations were very high. Yeah. What about you? um Yeah, it took me a couple weeks to read the book. Also finished it minutes right before our show time.
00:16:00
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we're and we We just delayed our time, but I'm happy that we did it. Yeah, I'd heard, as soon as like we saw the trailer for this movie, I had not heard of this book previously to realizing this movie was coming out.
00:16:13
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um Similar to you, I think a lot of people I've seen like on TikTok and online really love this book. In particular, people seem to like really love even like the audio book, and it seems like the guy who did the audio book and they was so good that that was part of the reason that this movie ended up getting made was kind of just the demand after hearing someone kind of talk through it in that way. um I think just really lends itself to wanting to be adapted in a visual medium.
00:16:40
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um I liked the book. I thought it was really good. um i don't think I would put it in like my top three of all time, but I had a good time reading it. like So I was also very excited for it.
00:16:51
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Ryan Gosling, obviously we love him. Bill Lord and Christopher Miller. That's a miss. Yeah, they they got some they got some hits. So was overall very excited for the movie.
00:17:02
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Alex? I didn't read the book. or you exception for them Which is weird because I feel like I'm usually the one who's read the book. coming in You are the reader. I am the reader.
00:17:14
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haven't read the book. I'd like to read the book. I will one day. I don't know when. ah I was excited. I like Ryan Gosling. It looked neat. And um i like the trailer.
00:17:26
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So was excited coming in. I'm going to say i might be doxing myself. But whenever I think Phil Lord of Christopher Miller, I think the Spider-Verse movies. Guys, I thought they directed those movies.
00:17:40
Speaker
What are they do? Yeah, I too. Yeah, they just produced them. it's one of the It's one of those things where it's like their names. Mandela effect. Yeah. it's just That's just like I feel really bad for like the actual directors of the different different directors for both Spider-Verse movies and I think different directors for the third one.
00:18:00
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But it's like similar to that movie Him that came out last year. Jordan Peele was producing it and people kept saying, oh, we're going to go see the new Jordan Peele movie. The new Jordan Peele. I'm like, it's not him. He's just producing it.
00:18:12
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So I just felt bad. So Phil Lord and Christopher Miller, they only have a handful of movies. They directed Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, 21 and 22 Jump Street and the Lego movie. What a slate.
00:18:26
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um Let's get into what works for us for this movie. I'll kick it off. Sure. Ryan Gosling.
00:18:34
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Come on. Yep. I mean, tim we, we knew, i think as I was reading the book, Tachi, when you read books, do you see it in your head? Like what kind of Alex, do you see?
00:18:49
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do you see it in your head? yes okay because apparently there's people that don't which is crazy yeah they need to be jailed yeah it i think the book um knowing that was ryan gosling like i just imagined him in my head the entire time same which is my honestly i i just kept drawing parallels like i know that i already knew that it was going to be him but even like seeing how the character operates in the book, um I just couldn't help but not connect it to Ryan Gosling because I feel like there are some similarities between the two.
00:19:24
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I think so, too. Like after reading the book, I was like, that's actually like spot on casting. Like, I don't know if it's just because we've already seen the trailer. We know it's him. But like the way that Rylan Grace like speaks in the book, I'm just like, I can see Ryan Gosling doing it. And we did. And I think it I think it was just like top notch casting for sure.
00:19:46
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Uh, visual effects looked amazing in this, in this movie. Yeah. I love how Rocky looked and, and all the space sequences were were great too.
00:19:57
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Agreed. And knowing that it's like mostly practical effects. Yeah. Was so cool. Did you see the thing about how they filmed the Petrova line scene with the chicken wire and infrared lights?
00:20:09
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No. Yeah. So ah let me see if I can find the tweet. But it's that scene was apparently filmed with with chicken wire and like IR lights. And so on a monitor, it looked incredibly great. And to Ryan Gosling, it looked like nothing.
00:20:28
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He's just like. Just loads in there because we can't see IR. I mean, yeah, maybe you can't. I can, but. I can't.
00:20:39
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Is it the sequence with the red stuff? Yes. OK, I kind of that was a great sequence. Yeah, that was shot beautifully. I wish we didn't have that in the trailer. Okay.
00:20:51
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and There are never mind. we're We're in the things that were section. Never mind. Okay. Okay. Yeah. um Well, byll kate yeah I'll keep singing the praises for the visual effects. I also love that a lot of this was like a practical set.
00:21:06
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we were just having this conversation with 2001 a space odyssey, like versus like the fantastic four, like comparing the ship of the fantastic four to like this one, like the, the spinning room and everything like that, that it had, like everything felt lived in. It felt real.
00:21:22
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I loved it. The ship design was like impeccable. So I guess it was. So part of it was they, uh,
00:21:34
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They were studying the how how like the space station was built and how it's built with like different parts and different you know rooms or fab different ways. And so it looks like a little clunky and not perfect.
00:21:48
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But that's just how it is, right? And um you're right. It looked very lived in. it it felt really real. yeah it felt You felt cramped a little bit in there and hard to move around, but...
00:22:04
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It was, ah I mean, it really did feel like a spaceship. Yeah. No sci-fi, just like a real spaceship. One of the things on the topic of just like the overall like look of the movie, the visual effects and like how it's shot. So this was shot by a cinematographer, Greg Fraser, who shot the first two Dune movies. Also shot the Batman.
00:22:24
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were sad to see him leave for Dune 3. That looks like we're going to be okay, but was excited. I'd say the guy they got is still a stud. is cooking. He's cooking. um But for Greg Frazier shooting this movie specifically talking about like the space station and like being a little bit like more like so like tightly squeezed. This is a bit more like technical, but it was something that I thought was really cool.
00:22:45
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um He was using, basically he was using like the wrong type of lenses for the camera that he was using to give it like a stretched out feeling to get more room in these cramped spaces, which created some cool effects like with the lights in the background, like a different type of like,
00:23:02
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like blurriness to the image so I think it just created like a unique type of image and that shows like on screen so I think everything was kind of just working hand in hand from the practical sets to the visual language and all translates very well to I think what's a very good looking movie for sure it's a breath of fresh air in in the era of of blockbusters for sure um What else works for you guys here?
00:23:31
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I like the score for the most part. It was an interesting score. it was it It was different. Yeah, a little all over the place. Yeah, like particularly like all of the the the space scenes.
00:23:44
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um It felt very like, oh, what's the word I'm looking for? Like like old century? Yeah. Like, I don't know. i don't know how I don't know. I don't know how to describe it, but it just felt different. Like, it's not a score I kind of expected from a movie like this, which in my eyes is a positive.
00:24:03
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I expected something like this. Yeah. Yeah. It just, it felt very spacey. It was like a different type of spacey though. It was like a, like a joyous spacey.
00:24:15
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You know, was just a bit more, i mean, the movie itself is like very uplifting. Like I think for a doomsday movie, this is a very um positive outlook, very optimistic take on what otherwise could be a very scary, sad story.
00:24:35
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. yeah for sure. i agree. I did love like the upliftingness of it. I think overall it's very hopeful movie. Um, you know, it's kind of not like a lot like interstellar, but it's pretty similar to interstellar, uh, like thematically interstellar.
Tone & Comparisons: Optimism in Sci-Fi
00:24:54
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I don't think has, like i think interstellar is a very hopeful movie, but not in the sense that this one is like, this one's like a little all too hopeful, just rosy cheeked, you know, happy go lucky. It's like, oh we're going to, we're going fix it. Like, you know, like, uh, like a real, like good old, you know,
00:25:14
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we know that good will prevail type movie. Like there was at no point where I kind of thought that like something bad was going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. it It got me a little bit, a little bit there at the end. I was like, Oh, but then it ended like, yeah, I kind of knew it.
00:25:32
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That's a, that's a great point that, that you bring up. Um, I've been trying to like wrestle with myself. If I'm, More for the the more positive, like, oh, everything's for sure going to be okay, like, outlook that the movie takes. Because I feel like at the like the book does have that. Like, that is this story. It is a very, like, optimistic outlook.
00:25:55
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But the book, like, I think obviously has more time to kind of spend time on Earth and build the stakes of really what's going on.
00:26:08
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um, and has a bit more drama in that sense and, and gets to that for sure. a More like apocalyptic point. Um, Tachi, do you, do you feel the same like that?
00:26:19
Speaker
There was more of that in the book for sure. Uh, the movie left out a ah lot of the, the state building, like you said, it also kind of left out a lot of the, uh, the seriousness of the supporting characters, the supporting cast.
00:26:36
Speaker
Um, like Like in the the first meeting on the the aircraft carrier and like the the representatives from China are just cracking jokes. I'm like, oh, that's different from the book.
00:26:51
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um it was very It was very lighthearted from the get-go. like and For sure. i was like, oh, okay, I guess this is how we're going to do this. Yeah. ah dev I've got thoughts for that.
00:27:04
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um I want to talk about Rocky. Yeah. Rocky's so cute. He's such a silly little guy. He's fast. He's what a guy. i love that. They use the puppet too.
00:27:15
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Yeah. No, no CGI for him. That's surprising. I really thought there was some CGI at least. um There's probably some CGI, but for the most part, like Ryan Gosling's like working with a puppet. He, I was watching an interview with him and he said, there's ah six people that they would call the rocketeers.
00:27:33
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um basically dressed as ninjas in the background, like moving around. And it was really, it's really nice to hear them. um Both Ryan Gosling and the directors talk about this movie as this like big labor of love. Like he was saying the easiest thing to do for Rocky was make him CGI. Like that would have been extremely easy. Mm-hmm.
00:27:53
Speaker
They took the the road less traveled and made him a puppet. like That was a lot more difficult. they're like It was harder to figure out how to move him around in this space, how to like not see the Rocketeers in the background. But he's like at the heart of the story. like That's the mission. That is Project Hail Mary, is figuring out like what's the hardest thing to do and like how are we going to do it.
00:28:14
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So um I think a lot could have gone wrong. with a movie like this and with an adaptation, I'm surprised at how much they were able to squeeze into this two hour, 45 minute runtime.
00:28:27
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Um, but overall I think it was a pretty good time. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. Rocky looked awesome. Yeah. Good use of the time, too. Only until like the very end where i was like, oh, this is starting to drag a little bit.
00:28:43
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Yeah, it's a pretty dense book. it yeah it did It didn't really feel its runtime, I think, until the end. Yeah, I agree. ah like For the end, i think I think we can get into a spoiler discussion now. So if you haven't seen the movie, haven't read the book,
00:28:58
Speaker
Keep listening. Do at least one of those. At least one. um Yeah, I think similar. Like, I don't really feel it in the book, but like like the second fake out is is that kind of where you're kind of headed, Alex, with it kind of just drags on.
00:29:14
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Yeah, I agree. At that point, I was kind of like, all right, well, I know where we're going. So I feel like I was kind of just like anticipating it at that point. But for most of the movie, I was just along for the ride.
00:29:25
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The second out fake out being what? him having to go back uh to get rocky gotcha like it was the initial it was the initial like oh rocky's dead fake out with uh with the ship going awry yeah then them saying goodbye and then having to go back like that kind of being the quote-unquote second fake out gotcha and i i think the second fake out really like took away the stung of the goodbye yeah it felt it was very quick it's it's longer It's longer in the book, and I felt it more in the book. Me too. That second fakeout, it didn't feel like a fakeout in the book.
00:30:03
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It felt like a legit issue that happens that he has to work through to figure out what is going on, and it takes a little bit for to figure out what's going on, and as soon as he does, then he realizes, oh shit, Rocky.
00:30:18
Speaker
And then it's a journey of trying to get to Rocky. And it's so good in the book. It's so good. ah It's so earned. It's very earned. So like with the movie, like it was, yeah, it was just, it was, it had to be condensed. Like, I don't know.
00:30:34
Speaker
It's not the movie's fault. We're already at two hours and 45 minutes. I don't think we could, they could have added another 30 minutes for that part of the story. Maybe they should have, who knows?
00:30:45
Speaker
i I am not opposed to... If if Brady Corbett can make The Brutalist, like, was it three hours and 20 minutes? Like, we'd get Project Hail Mary three hours and 20 minutes.
00:30:57
Speaker
Why not? should do that. Yeah, bring intermissions back. Yeah. Brutalist had an intermission. That was awesome. It was great. Yeah. We got to get up and go to the bathroom. That's pretty cool. I didn't know that. We talked for a bit in the intermission. We saw Brandon. We ran into him at the theater. It was the best intermission ever. That's really cool.
00:31:19
Speaker
um Yeah, but like i'm I'm down. Make movies longer. If it makes it better, make it longer. Yeah, I agree. You know, whatever. um Let's get into what doesn't work for us. And then we'll talk a little bit through book versus movie and some changes and additions that they made um to both. Cool.
00:31:38
Speaker
Sure. Anyone want to go first for something that does not work for them? can go first. Or Alex can go. No, Tachi goes first. Sure. I have a huge problem with the marketing for this movie.
00:31:51
Speaker
It gives away way too much. agree. The reveal of Rocky was supposed to be like the most shocking thing in the book.
00:32:02
Speaker
And he just plastered all over the trailer, all over the posters. Like, we're not supposed to know that that there are aliens.
00:32:14
Speaker
Like, yeah, what? Yeah. Here's the thing, I've seen a healthy amount of both sides of this argument. I'm on your side where i think I think there's a better world where we didn't see Rocky in the marketing.
00:32:28
Speaker
here's Here's a good example, Cam. She didn't read the book, she didn't see the trailer. I told her high-level overview of the movie, did not mention Rocky whatsoever. She had no idea. And we were good.
00:32:40
Speaker
ah we were Like, we were good. Like, she had yeah no idea. We're at Alamo. And the pre-show, Phil Lord and Christopher Miller do it with Rocky. I'm like, what the fuck?
00:32:51
Speaker
She put two and two together seconds before the movie started because of the 30-second Alamo bit. She said, oh, there's an alien. So stupid. And I was like, oh, my God.
00:33:02
Speaker
And people are like, it's not a big deal.
Marketing Strategy Critique
00:33:05
Speaker
Rocky shows up. Rocky shows up on page 120 in the book It's a 476 page book, so it's not super early, but I think it's late enough that you can market this without him.
00:33:21
Speaker
But I think they were scared. I think that's what I think they wanted to get butts in seats. I know. they They want the kids in. They want the families in. They want the families.
00:33:32
Speaker
Yeah. Because i in my head, I can see a trailer that is kind of dark and is a very different, a tonally different movie without like the inclusion of Rocky, without like the lightheartedness. But then people kind of being thrown for a loop when it comes out.
00:33:49
Speaker
i with i don't I don't know. I just... This is just how I feel about spoilers in general. Yeah. There are reasons that writers and artists do things the way that they do.
00:34:03
Speaker
And i I just don't understand why studios believe that we shouldn't just experience things as they intend, as as the artists intend. Marketing.
00:34:15
Speaker
Marketing. Like just it's frustrating. Give me the surprise. iles I can't imagine how many meetings they had leading up to this, like how many marketing meetings and the decision to include Rocky in everything. Yeah. Well, Rocky is they're trying to make a baby Yoda, right?
00:34:34
Speaker
For sure. Like you can, you can market Rocky for sure. It's at the end of the day, it's money in their pockets. Is there some artistic integrity?
00:34:46
Speaker
Yes. But the ones that are making the decisions are the ones with the final say. And like, if I'm in their shoes, not if I'm in their shoes, if I'm in their mind, i see Rocky as a plushie as money.
00:35:01
Speaker
Just a money printer. And yeah, I have a, I have a huge issue with that. And i just have a huge issue with spoilers in general, but yeah, that, that really, that pre-roll or that,
00:35:14
Speaker
Insane. Yeah. that I couldn't believe that they did that. I only saw the trailer once. After that, I decided not to watch because I was like, I think I want to read the book.
00:35:27
Speaker
Yeah. So that that was a big thing that I wanted to say. But Alex, what did you what do you have? Movie's a little cork chungus-y. It's like getting right up on that line. it Yep. Go ahead. Yeah.
00:35:39
Speaker
And it's like some of the humor, it's like, okay like even when it was trying to be like emotional, emotional or dramatic. I'll give you a great example.
00:35:50
Speaker
ah The scene where.
00:35:55
Speaker
Sandra Hewler's character, forget her name, cry Strat, ah is telling him that he's going up. Yeah. Like, no, no, this isn't a discussion. Like, you are you are going up. I am vol telling you to to get on that spaceship.
00:36:13
Speaker
And he's, like, running away, and then it's, like, played as a bit. It's played as a bit. Yeah. He's like, ah! The Ryan Gosling scream, that the silly one.
00:36:24
Speaker
Yeah. And it's like this supposed to like, this guy's life is, for all intents purposes, or as far as he knows it, is
Humor in Project Hail Mary
00:36:30
Speaker
ending. Yeah. Yep. Like his life is ending. He's going to be put in a coma. He may not live. Like he may just die.
00:36:37
Speaker
These may be the last moments of his life, but it's plays a bit.
00:36:44
Speaker
And there's a lot of jokes in the beginning. Like it very heavily relies on those jokes to, to get going. And I think that there was too much for a guy waking up and he has no idea who he is or where he is, but he's in space.
00:36:59
Speaker
Mm-hmm. It's like, yeah. I'm with you 100%. To hit on your first point of Strat telling Grace that he's going in the book, it's a very emotional.
00:37:16
Speaker
It's so heavy. It's very heavy. Like, I was also disappointed, like, in the theater, with the the quirk chungus of it all with making it a bit because it's it is a very heavy scene in the book and I was disappointed that it was played for laughs in the beginning i can kind of forgive it a bit more because in the beginning of the book it takes a little bit to kind of kick off and everything that we're reading are internal thoughts like
00:37:49
Speaker
I kid you not, 30 seconds into the movie might have been the first two chapters of the book. And they're not short chapters. It was like 30 seconds and we're discovering the bodies.
00:38:00
Speaker
That happens in chapter two, chapter three. so But it's a lot of internal dialogue of what's going on. I'm confused as the reader. My character is confused where he's at.
00:38:11
Speaker
very I think that's hard to kind of translate into um into a movie. So I think they did what they could. to set the tone up for the movie. So I'm more forgiving for that, but I am frustrated at the strat scene towards the end.
00:38:26
Speaker
Yeah, there was a lot more horror and grief for, for Grace's character in the book, uh, for how he's processing things and, and gaining back his memories. I feel like I'm going to be really hard on the movie adaptation because I just really, really loved the book.
00:38:44
Speaker
So one of my biggest problems is that they don't handle the amnesia and the the memories returning well at all. All of the flashbacks are like interspersed between...
00:38:56
Speaker
um his, his journey on the ship and they're supposed to be treated as his memories returning in real time. And I don't think that that's presented well at all.
00:39:07
Speaker
Yeah. And, um, I, I think there's like one scene where it kind of shows it as, as it's like that process. Yeah. And, um,
00:39:19
Speaker
I don't think that they explained the the drug, the amnesia well at all, where he's injected, he wakes up on the ship later on. And I don't know that that part really bothered me that.
00:39:34
Speaker
I think it also hurt the pacing as well, that.
00:39:39
Speaker
the The memories and the flashbacks weren't really used as the tools for. Him like.
00:39:49
Speaker
I guess like running successful tests on the ship or like relearning how to to do things or or remembering core components of what he's supposed to do, how he supposed to do it.
00:40:00
Speaker
Yeah. So yeah, that, that bothered me quite a bit. That's a good point. um To kind of get back to the, the cork chungas of it all.
00:40:12
Speaker
That was a concern I had coming into the movie because the book's not far off.
00:40:20
Speaker
the dialogue that grace has with himself, mainly with himself and like his internal thoughts. And as he, um, interacts with other humans on earth,
00:40:31
Speaker
It's kind of Cork Junghazi. I can't lie. But he's funny. like It works for his character and his character alone. It's not the entire you're right cast.
00:40:43
Speaker
And I think, yeah, so it it does work more for him in the book. you that's ah That's a great point. Because Strat in the book is very cold, calculated, and just matter of fact.
00:40:56
Speaker
Extremely. extreme she doesn't really have a wiggle room but i like the i like the black and white between grace and stratt in the book like that was exactly it and then in the movie i'm like to it was she it's weird to say it's like she just had too many emotions for me she was too soft she was too soft yeah it didn't make it seem like she was doing literally everything she could to save earth to save humanity Yeah.
00:41:27
Speaker
the That was a huge part of the book was her power. Right. ah her her The amount of power that she has paired with the ending when we find out that she is sending grace and that's her emotional moment.
00:41:40
Speaker
The first time we see any hint of vulnerability from her was in that moment in the book. Exactly. Was huge. And so I think that just... probably compounds into why in the movie like that scene particularly also doesn't really land.
00:41:56
Speaker
Yeah, she she doesn't do karaoke in the book, Alex. You got to read. You're basically reading just sign of the times in the book. yeah It's a lyric sheet.
00:42:07
Speaker
Just stop your crying. It's the sign of the times. We got to get away. We got to get away. Got to get away. Got to get away.
00:42:17
Speaker
OK. okay We can get into some differences from the book versus the movie unless there's maybe I think that'll maybe inform maybe some other things we do like and we don't like if that's yeah cool with you guys. Okay. Sure. um Different from the movie, the inclusion of Carl played by Lionel Boyce who was like a security guard for Strat.
00:42:37
Speaker
His name isn't even Carl Letterboxd. What is it? Here, let me look, because I was like, who is this guy? Officer Steve Hatch. Yeah. It's Carl, though, right? it's carl It's Carl. I was Carl in the movie. They called him Carl.
00:42:52
Speaker
Interesting. Something's wrong here. Maybe Steve Hatch was his name in the book, but I don't remember. He wasn't in the book.
00:43:02
Speaker
so it's mentioned that there is one guard those guards that's friendlier than the others yes but he's not part of the experiments yeah but they don't conversations yeah they don't interact yeah he kind of just sees him and he's like he's not he doesn't seem as much of a hard ass he just like recognizes grace as ah like a human Yeah, I like the inclusion of Carl on this and him getting in the experiments.
00:43:24
Speaker
and To the point where I kind of wish we had more. It's hard to build Grace as a character through flashbacks. So I think Carl kind of being um that vehicle for like building a relationship was really good.
00:43:38
Speaker
It kind of bridged the gap until Grace meets Rocky. Yeah. Agreed. um Here's a big one in the book.
00:43:47
Speaker
In the book, as they're figuring out ways to real quick before I get there, astrophage. Tachi, how did you pronounce it in your head? Did you pronounce it any different?
00:43:59
Speaker
I pronounce it as astrophage. Thank God. Fuck. What? You didn't? I, no. I pronounced it in my, as I'm reading the book, as astrophage. Okay. That's, that's forgivable.
00:44:10
Speaker
Yeah. And then as soon as I said astrophage in the, in the movie, I like, oh, No, yours is fine. i As long as it wasn't like astrophagy or something. astrofegie yeah Astrophage. Astrophage.
00:44:25
Speaker
Esophagus. um A really ah important part in the book is like the um the lengths that Stratton and the team go.
00:44:36
Speaker
for this research right one of the chapters there's a decision to nuke the polar ice caps in antarctica to trigger global warming which gives the earth more time um since the earth is cooling down since we're losing the sun yeah we're trying to up the emissions to not lose that so quick it gives us like an additional like sick like six years i think for nuking
00:45:03
Speaker
Yeah, just raise the sea level a couple inches. That's fine. Yeah. um And they talk about that. They talk about the repercussions of like sea levels rising and what that's going to be. And they're like they're like, I'd rather have that than the alternative of what happens if we lose a degree or two.
00:45:18
Speaker
Right. Destroy a few ecosystems to to save the mini. Yeah. And then on that note, they also, in the book, they use a third of the Sahara desert covered in black panels to breed the astrophage.
00:45:32
Speaker
that's That's crazy. thing That is crazy.
Character Analysis: Rocky
00:45:34
Speaker
that was i really enjoyed that chapter with the um scientist who was in jail or whatever crimes he did that did all that um yeah i i did think it was cool that they were like oh yeah and then africa can uh sorted out amongst themselves to to bring themselves out out of poverty because now they have like now they're like the energy leader of the world yeah so it's just like it's like a give and take it was like it's really interesting and it's like there's no way they could have included all of this but like one of my biggest gripes with the movie is i didn't feel i didn't feel the uh
00:46:14
Speaker
Like the stress of what's going on on earth. The urgency. that Yeah, because humanity was going to end essentially in the next, what, 30 years? Yeah. i just basically not I just did not really feel it whatsoever.
00:46:30
Speaker
i agree. um let's see here you had written rocky's quote-unquote voice yes how did you imagine so so in the book when rocky speaks it just shows like music notes in quotes so in your mind were you imagining he has a sing-songy voice or did you imagine he just makes like just sounds in general
00:46:58
Speaker
in my head the noise was was like dooo and no and like something like that but like not yeah but whenever he gets to like actually like talking like through the computer yeah i imagine it as a normal voice but we we still hear that like the like the noises they gave rocky i thought were spot on like that's kind of how i heard it in my head it's very whale-esque gotcha i i was imagining sing-songy so i was thinking like oh Something like that.
00:47:27
Speaker
um how did How do you think that they did with his voice and the translations and and everything? Because personally, I just wanted his sounds with subtitles, like how it was in that final sequence on Arid.
00:47:42
Speaker
I thought that that was brilliant, and I loved hearing just Rocky's voice. I might have preferred. I was thinking that going into the movie. I might have preferred just subtitles the entire That's what I wanted.
00:47:56
Speaker
It's like it would have been so much better in my opinion. Yeah, I don't I didn't care for like the shots of the computer and seeing what he's saying like Actually, I take that back.
00:48:06
Speaker
I preferred that because that was more in line with the subtitles and so I would have liked to see the subtitles be integrated but Yeah, I'd rather subtitles than an actual I think an actual voice. Yeah, same
00:48:25
Speaker
Rocky's people were hardly mentioned.
00:48:29
Speaker
Yeah. That's a big one. He, yeah, I think in the movies it it mentions it once that he's just trying to save his planet, but it doesn't ever really stress ah the urgency in his mission to save his people, his planet.
00:48:43
Speaker
and And also, I think he contributed a whole lot more in the book than he does in the movie. They they make him a lot more sidekicky. And I think that also lends itself into the marketing and and just trying to make him this cute little thing instead of a genius engineer who can make and fix like anything.
00:49:06
Speaker
Yeah. I agree. um we yeah We've got we've got a few here in the movie. They included Strat at the end receiving their video messages and basically carrying out the mission on Earth.
00:49:23
Speaker
ah
00:49:26
Speaker
Alex, real quick, as a non book reader, what did you think of like Strat getting the like the actual like ending of of the of the book of of the movie? I thought she was... I mean, what do you mean? like what What do you mean? What do I think? Like, just... Like, the way the entire, like, movie, like, ends. So, like, Strat receives the video message from from Grace and Rocky, and see Grace um staying on this planet and teaching.
00:49:55
Speaker
Like, just where do you land with the ending overall?
00:50:00
Speaker
would have gone home. would have gone home? i mean... Yeah. Right? Like, after a bit I want to go home. Like, I... What if there's nothing for you at home?
00:50:20
Speaker
I think if you saved the world, there's a lot for you at home. in a way but he has at least for grace he has no family no friends no pets no nothing and in his journey which is i guess stressed a little bit more in the book but he and rocky have a true friendship and and become like best friends so i guess with that in mind does that change your answer Maybe.
00:50:49
Speaker
i don't know. I've never hung out with a rock alien before. what is your What is your opinion on their relationship in the movie overall? Do you believe it? Yeah. Okay. Did you believe heartless guys? I did. They did. They did a great job, I think, with what they have, like, with their relationship.
00:51:06
Speaker
um I really enjoyed it. Me too. And just kudos to Ryan Gosling for basically just doing a, basically a one-man performance for a half of this movie.
00:51:17
Speaker
I honestly couldn't think of a better person to be Grace again. Like, it's, he just did such a great job in this. 100%. Um... um I think the last thing I'll say comparing the book and the movie, just because there's obviously more that they can do in the book. But I think for me, like the ending for the movie still works.
00:51:39
Speaker
The tweaks that they had like at the book, I think worked a little bit better. Mainly um the visual of grace aging on Arid, like in the book there does like he has a cane years have passed.
00:51:55
Speaker
Yeah. And he's 16 years. Yeah. And the gravity has aged him a bit where on earth he would be 71, I believe. And like I'm reading it and I have the biggest knot in my throat and he was more,
00:52:09
Speaker
he was more um like positive in his, um decision to stay on this planet and not go back to earth in the book in the movie i feel like it was kind of tossed in the air where he's like i might go back might not like who knows but he was confident with his decision to stay and the conversation he has with rocky just like made me tear up like as i'm reading um i so i just kind of wish the movie did a little bit a little bit more of that
00:52:41
Speaker
And the biggest change was Rocky has the conversation with Grace that their scientists on their planet have been looking at our sun and saw that it's gained some of its brightness back, meaning that the mission was successful.
Ending Comparison: Book vs. Movie
00:52:57
Speaker
That's how Grace finds out yeah that the mission was successful. But in this, like Grace doesn't know. We know as the audience, because Strat has the video, but that conversation between Rocky and Grace, I think was so important and gave Grace the meaning to his life. Like he said,
00:53:12
Speaker
So I was sad that that was kind of brushed over. like that ending way better. Yeah. And also the video messages weren't a thing. and The video messages were not a thing. The only thing we get is Rocky telling them, like, hey, our scientists are looking at your solar system.
00:53:28
Speaker
Your sun is getting brighter. Like you did it, Grace. And it's a very emotional ending. Yeah.
00:53:38
Speaker
The ah the ending and I guess the the very end for both the movie and the book are the same where he ah becomes a teacher again for all the little iridians. And that was just so that got me. yeah Oh, my God. I love that.
00:53:53
Speaker
The last sentence of the book is 12 kids raise their claws. i was like, oh, they got me. It got me good. It got me good, too. Yeah, so freaking cute.
00:54:06
Speaker
so I'm happy that they that they kept that. But, I mean, overall, like, i think this was... a really good adaptation from the book. Um, it seems like people are loving this. I think it hits on the emotional beats that it needs to like, this is like a lot of people are going to love this and are loving it. So think it's doing what it set out to do.
00:54:32
Speaker
It's an awesome movie with great practical effects, good performances, great. It looks amazing. Like, like what else can you ask for at the end of the day? Right. And I know I was coming off pretty strongly negative, I think, in this review, but I i really did enjoy the movie. Like that sequence on Adrian was amazing. It was really cool. It was so cool, so beautiful.
00:54:59
Speaker
I want to talk about the space scenes real quick since we just talked about 2001 Space Odyssey. the they had ah They had a number of scenes, like I think two or three, of complete silence, a la 2001.
00:55:13
Speaker
Loved it. Same. There were a couple other direct callbacks to 2001 as well, like shots. What were there? I think it's during the Adrian Petrova line scene, the way that the lights are going against Ryland's visor. Looks like the end of 2001. Yeah. Yeah.
00:55:36
Speaker
lot Yeah, for sure. like ah you can You can see the influence for like throughout the movie. three star seen Three stars, by the way.
00:55:47
Speaker
The space scenes looked looked awesome. Yeah. it but There's this one scene in the beginning of the movie where he looks out the window and he's like looking up and down in space.
00:55:58
Speaker
Yeah. And just... starting to realize you know his uh his status in life like what's that like when everything's kind of like shifting yeah kind of turning and he's going around the room with it yeah and it freaks me out so bad that there is no up or down in space like yeah everything just is and i don't it makes it gives me the heebie jeebies space is freaky yeah freaky ass space um I want to shout out when they're meeting in the movie, Grace and Rocky, when their ships first interact and he's kind of doing the, like his ship's going that way. And then the way that that they're moving, it's very animated. It was, it was giving, it was very like Lego movie-ish.
00:56:42
Speaker
That's a really funny, fun way to like do space travel. Like I've never seen spaceships move like that in in a movie like this. And I just thought that was, that was really funny.
00:56:54
Speaker
Mm-hmm. I wonder, I don't know how it would work. The the little mini thrusts. I don't know if it'll look like that, but was kind of cool. It's like that in video games. Yeah. We got to try. Well, if if it's in video games, then it's got to be real.
00:57:12
Speaker
Fortnite's real guys. Um, closing thoughts on this movie. Anything else you want to shout out that you liked? Didn't like what else you guys got?
00:57:26
Speaker
think that about covers it for me. over Yeah, overall, like it was just a really good time at the movies.
Final Ratings & Theater Experience
00:57:33
Speaker
I think it has its flaws in the in tone and in structure, but overall, a great time.
00:57:43
Speaker
Agreed. Agreed. All right. I'm not going first for ratings. Yeah. I went first for the last space movie. I can go first, I guess.
00:57:54
Speaker
Okay. I'll give it four stars. Malik. Oh, I'm next. Yeah. um I'm landing at a three and a half.
00:58:05
Speaker
Wow. Alex. I guess I need to read this book because I gave it a 4.5. Whoa. I really had a good time with it. I really, really enjoyed it. Yeah. I think if it was more serious, it would have been a 10.
00:58:21
Speaker
Straight five star. I think it would have been an easy 4.5 if it was more serious. I think there's there's a world and for me there as well. it doesn't like it I don't know. like it doesn't need It doesn't need it, but it's it's the Quirk Chunkus of it all.
00:58:37
Speaker
It's the Quirk Chunkus. That's really what it boils down to for me. i i just I love The Space Avengers so much. i mean, I'm tearing up over a stupid rock in the movies. And yeah, I just, I don't know. it i really, really had a good time with it. But I didn't read the book.
00:59:00
Speaker
And sounds like the book, I might become a hater. and Maybe don't read the book. but um I'm going to book. good. I'm going to read the book. It's Leave it as is.
00:59:12
Speaker
No. Amaze, amaze, amaze. I'm going to read the book.
00:59:18
Speaker
One thing I wanted to shout out before we we wrap this up, our theater experience. Oh, yeah. Let's talk about it. Please. We had two...
00:59:29
Speaker
legendary moments. So we went to a 9 45 PM show. Let's, let's preface it that way. I, I was tired. I'd taken a nap at like six. I had not worked out that day. Cause I'm like, I need to save all my energy. did the same thing I'm like, well, this the only showing that all of us could get that we were like actually all in the theater and and next to each other. Right.
00:59:51
Speaker
So, you know, sacrifices have to be made for the greater good. Right. Right. So we're in, i'm trying to remember which bit came first. I think,
01:00:02
Speaker
We had this lady and she kicked your legs, right? She kick kicked the shit out of me. And I have my I always pull my legs back for people walking by.
01:00:13
Speaker
and I did for this lady and she still kicked the shit out of my legs. That's crazy. Yeah, I think I think she was the same lady. So I got there before you guys and I I ordered my water and I reclined.
01:00:26
Speaker
And I'm watching like people come up. i'm looking for you guys. And this lady, like this group comes up to our row and they go and they there's plenty of room, right? Like, I mean, there there is plenty of room.
01:00:39
Speaker
It's not like I was blogging the thing. And the the lady looks at me. She goes, looks at me, goes, hi. And then like, he's walking. I'm like, all right. Like, no, like, don't talk to me. um I think it was the same way, but she kicks your legs and she, then she gets to the aisle.
01:00:57
Speaker
And it's not like hitting your legs like made her stumble. because She gets the aisle like normally steps into the aisle. And then like as she's going down the stairs, like she's hanging on to the railing, like stumbling for her life.
01:01:09
Speaker
She was she was crunk. she She was crunk in Project Hail Mary. She was struggling. And then I think at the end, she was the same lady who got up and stood in like watch the last five minutes in the aisle.
01:01:21
Speaker
What? yeah Someone on my my right, like stood up and was like watching in the aisle. didn't see that happen. Yeah. um The other bit was and this is
01:01:36
Speaker
I think this was right around the Rocky sacrifice scene or he goes ham in the paint. Yeah. You know, the music slows, like the the the chaos like ebbs, and there's a lull in the movie, and you hear... yeah Bro.
01:01:58
Speaker
Great reenactment. Loud. Some dude is just zonked. And it's like... And it's an emotion it's like an emotional moment in the movie. And like the it was it was it was silent.
01:02:09
Speaker
Like, he was so loud that the theater laughed. The entire theater. The entire theater heard him. And it happened three more times where the sound cut off. I don't think he ever woke up.
01:02:24
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i don't think he ever woke up. Did they not try to wake him up? Because like that was crazy. Was he alone? i' That's the thing. if If someone's there alone, would you wake up a stranger and be like, shut up?
01:02:41
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i wouldn't mean i could do it I wouldn't say shut up, but I would nudge. I feel like... Yeah. I think I would have to nudge. so it's the The first time it happened, he kind of woke up after everyone laughed. like you and that was he next to you Was he next to you? No, no, no. We think he was in the row above us. like Diagonally back. Yeah, but not far off.
01:03:03
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because it was It was coming from your direction to the point where I looked. I'm like, ah that better not be one of... One of ours. No, I literally would never. I mean, I have fallen asleep in a theater. but I say he fell asleep during Black Bad. There was probably no one in that theater. I was alone. But like, if you're going to a movie alone, you did not need to go to a 945 if you know that's going to happen to you. yeah if if you so If you're a snorer, don't go to a late show. I don't care how excited you are. Yeah, just wait until Friday mid-afternoon if you need to.
01:03:31
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I think I would nudge the second time it happened. I'd be like, I'd just, or at least write a note from out to Alamo. like Kick this guy out. Yo, get this guy's ass out of here.
01:03:43
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Give him the test, some poor minimum wage worker. It's like, yo, wake wake this guy up and kick him out. Now. Give him amnesia and put him on a rocket ship.
01:03:57
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Get this guy out of here. ah ah Yeah, besides, this it was a crazy theater experience. But... i'd I would rewatch this. I'd love to rewatch it. Yeah.
01:04:10
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Me too. you know Maybe if you're not being so much of a hater. A three and a half is a good one battle convo all over again. but But yours, I mean, that seems to be omissions, whereas like Vineland, it was just like changes. Yeah. Because the book is, like I said before, it's unadaptable.
01:04:29
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Which is why it was, if it anything else had been best best adapted, I would have rioted. Mm-hmm. I would have started like like ah like a front. Like one of those armies. So he adapted it.
01:04:41
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Yeah, I think the the quote unquote issues I have are just like omissions overall. um But it's a great movie. It's doing very well at the box office. I think it made $33 million in its first day.
01:04:55
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so good I'm excited that like a non-franchise movie is doing this well. I think, if I'm not mistaken, let me... It says $33.1 million in the film's domestic opening day.
01:05:07
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It is the biggest domestic opening day ever for a non-franchise film. Wow. I guess the rocky marketing works, but man, that's a bummer.
01:05:19
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Yeah, I mean, ah it's yeah it is what it is. I get it, but man. yeah Oh, well. I'm a fan of this this hopeful movie type era that maybe we're were entering.
01:05:34
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It's nice to see some some optimism in light of in light of everything going on. so I agree. Fun time at the movies. What else can you ask for? Anything else for you guys?
01:05:49
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think that's it. right. Well, those are our thoughts on project. Hail Mary. Thank you so much for listening. Let us know what you thought of it. Don't forget to follow us on letterbox and Instagram. If you're not already, uh, stay tuned for our next episode. We will be discussing eyes wide shut.
01:06:05
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And the lore behind it. Oh, be ready. All right. We'll see you guys on the next one. Have a great day, night, weekend. All right.
01:06:36
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Thank