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Jarrod Dyke: Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the fancy rugby eggs. My name is Jared Dyke.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm Ben Glauser.
Jarrod Dyke: Hey, where you been? I haven't seen you in a couple of days.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's it's been a spell.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, right.
Grumpy Old Prop: um Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: But we bal we will we welcome back ah Ben as a replacement for George. I'm popping this thing.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh yes, that little incident.
Jarrod Dyke: Hey, that wasn't my fault. You shouldn't have got relegated.
Grumpy Old Prop: Let me just to not get an invite.
Jarrod Dyke: but That's not your favorite podcast app.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's more of than theyre not getting an invite.
Jarrod Dyke: Downloaded review or let you battle on the kill me.
Grumpy Old Prop: Cause you could have, you could have shared your screen with me so I could like see what was happening. Commented, but you didn't want to, you didn't want the smoke. So I get it.
Grumpy Old Prop: And I have zero, like, it doesn't matter. Cause there's zero consequence. There would have been zero consequences for me.
Jarrod Dyke: I don't need you in my, I don't need you in my ear.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm not even in, not even in that league.
Jarrod Dyke: i I don't need you in my ear. I have enough guys in my head already from that league. I don't, I don't need help. but
Grumpy Old Prop: Fair.
Jarrod Dyke: Specula George make sure that you buy a good friend George the fancy or maybe geeky coffee or beer The man is busy. He was just just doing all the six nations things and now he's about to do super rugby things He did just post the His his records with the live draft.
Jarrod Dyke: So that's fun as well yeah All right, you need some help you need some help I think
Grumpy Old Prop: Cool. I'm checking on the arm. I okay. We got four people in the league. Great. I think we need the other four to um yeah. Jump in, please. We had. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Well, if we, I mean, I'd say, so this is an FYI for everybody in D2. If you're not joined by tomorrow, like midday here, we're going to start farming it out.
Grumpy Old Prop: Well, but yeah, the draft well, the draft is. ah Oh, that's true, because also the draft is I think 3 p .m. tomorrow.
Jarrod Dyke: <unk> Tomorrow.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: So I'm going to be auto drafting, which kind of sucks.
Jarrod Dyke: So there you go.
Grumpy Old Prop: But it's like I tried to do something for this past Sunday and we got it was just Aubrey that we joined.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. So there you go.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: um And yeah, but at least Barty and Franco are on board, so.
Jarrod Dyke: That's not good. So.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, they're good. they're They're good for that usually. So hopefully.
Grumpy Old Prop: Anywho, save all that for the fantasy quarter.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, we'll get there anyway.
Grumpy Old Prop: These people don't need to hear all that.
Jarrod Dyke: Anywho, make sure that you don't know we already did that. Hi, look at that um' out of practice over here.
Grumpy Old Prop: and
Jarrod Dyke: I'm just skipping a week. No discrimination here on this podcast notion to be in sports or in life. um I did not watch the halftime show, but apparently Kendrick Lamar made quite a statement about
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: America and being built on the back of black people. So Ben, you were watching it.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah and
Jarrod Dyke: So you you you give everyone the 411 on this whole thing.
Grumpy Old Prop: And one thing I missed, and I'm not sure how, um but um then again, we do have ah an almost one year old, so it could have been a crying baby who interrupted my my vision.
Grumpy Old Prop: But um yeah,
Jarrod Dyke: Very easy.
Grumpy Old Prop: um there's a so this goes just beyond that. But first off, it was funny, because I was I was reading a um ah thread on on the blue skies where people were talking about um Although the ways his um like people were complaining about his performance because they misunderstood it or they just didn't get it or they didn't like what it was saying even though it was true. And they laid out a couple of different complaints and I there's funny at work I heard every single one um and not
Grumpy Old Prop: um Not just from the white guys either some from some of the other and like what are you talking like you don't you you missed that, although, to be fair that I think that guy was. um He's from Vietnam so he might he might not have the full context but.
Grumpy Old Prop: um Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Oh, that's a possibility.
Grumpy Old Prop: um So like he's the first generation immigrant. So like, yeah, he he he wasn't here for a lot of that, or it's just been going on outside of his his view, which that makes sense.
Jarrod Dyke: Mhmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: um But yeah, I heard the same things from from like, I'm like, guys, the one thing that I missed, though, was um the reference to the Danzinger Bridge.
Jarrod Dyke: Mhmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah um And for those who don't know, ah um it's it's It sounds like a conspiracy theory, but um literally they were shooting people from the Danziger Bridge or on the Danziger Bridge during um Katrina.
Grumpy Old Prop: It was police and like military snipers were literally shooting at Americans who were trying to
Jarrod Dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: escape a hurricane because they were like oh you're looting you need to be it you needed to have have ah um like you're looting because you're still here in a in an emergency where you' so bureau it's mandatory evacuation and so they were just like you must the only reason you have to be here is looting because you're out and you're black yeah so they were just they literally shot people
Jarrod Dyke: Because that makes sense.
Grumpy Old Prop: um So yeah, and he he referenced that in one of his ah in one of like the visuals on it. And I just I miss it. But also, I kept forgetting that it was in New Orleans because I can't fucking pay attention to that anyway.
Grumpy Old Prop: um So that all kind of makes like perfect sense. I just like he roasted Trump to Trump's face. He roasted Drake because that's what he does.
Grumpy Old Prop: And it was awesome. um And he he roasted America.
Jarrod Dyke: Apparently, that's the thing, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: And, you know, obviously, people have a problem with that. But Okay, how about instead of having a problem with the fact that people have a problem with America, we make a America something that people don't have legitimate gripes about?
Jarrod Dyke: No kidding. That would that would require us admitting things are wrong.
Grumpy Old Prop: like right Like the people who had the negative reaction to it, like none of it was about the the reality of it. It was just they don't like the way it made them feel. like
Jarrod Dyke: Mm -hmm. Oh, I'm sorry. You were made to feel uncomfortable.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: It's not too bad.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, it's not nice to feel uncomfortable. Like, and like, you're not even a threatened, you're just uncomfortable. Like, gee, that that must suck.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm -hmm. Yeah, let's let's talk about that in depth there, are my friends.
Grumpy Old Prop: These are also for people who like to say fuck your feelings. So that's hilarious.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, no kidding.
Grumpy Old Prop: Anywho, that's, that's that.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, the same people love to say that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: That's true.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, if you didn't watch it, go watch it. It was first off, I mean, he's an excellent artist. And um His songs are bangers. They're fucking amazing. um And like he's he's he's he's he's going after the right people.
Grumpy Old Prop: So.
Jarrod Dyke: There you go.
Grumpy Old Prop: There you go.
Jarrod Dyke: Okay. So we're going to try and bleed, bleed our way through. Oh, wait. Yeah. Don't forget to grab our Patreon. I won't plug that too much though.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, do that, too.
Jarrod Dyke: We're going to try and race our way through here. Super rugby and MLR previews and we won't spend too much time on both. We'll try and keep a total of 30 minutes to between the two.
Jarrod Dyke: um Absolute max. Let's talk about super web because it's a little bit more relevant to the stuff that we generally do. Not that we don't care about MLR, but it's just a little bit more relevant to the stuff we do here.
Grumpy Old Prop: But I mean, that's kind of a foregone conclusion, right?
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Yeah. And if you're not going to watch WER, then you and I can't be friends. FYI.
Grumpy Old Prop: Because I mean, first off, the logos are awesome. So.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, those were amazing. Those were amazing. All right. Um, super rugby. It's going to, I mean, lots of interesting things, you know, as it tends to happen, there's a mass exodus from super rugby because French teams pay French and Japanese teams pay these guys boatloads.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: And that's just how it is. Uh, and also there's zoom we have team go, go under.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Not really awesome either.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, not good, not great.
Jarrod Dyke: No, no, some of. I'd say ah a good number of the players have found homes one way or another.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Some of them have actually come here.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: A couple have gone over to England. Some have gone to Japan.
Grumpy Old Prop: and We got a coach out of it, so.
Jarrod Dyke: Yes, we did. Yes, we did. that's That was there. Their demise was our gain.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: We'll see how that works out just the same.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: um
Jarrod Dyke: Anywho, I don't want to go
Jarrod Dyke: quite team by team. I wanna just kinda look at the broader picture here. How about we just kinda look at Kiwi, look at a Aussie, and then we go from and go from there, and we'll lump the Fijians in with Australians.
Grumpy Old Prop: That sounds good.
Jarrod Dyke: So, going to that the dual islands. um
Jarrod Dyke: I feel like this this is anybody's to have to be had, honestly. i'm don't The hurricanes aren't gonna be as strong as they were last year, I don't think so. but also It's a matter, it's a question of are the Crusaders gonna return to what they used to do?
Jarrod Dyke: Because that's a question in everyone's head for sure. um You know, chiefs have spit it a couple times now, so people are wondering what's going on with there. Obviously the blues got Bodhi back, so that helps.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. But a little bit.
Jarrod Dyke: So it's, and then, and then you know, ah people are still waiting for, like the meme, do something, to wait for the Highlanders to do something.
Grumpy Old Prop: and Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Oh man, that's a, that's a sad one I just read.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: I was just reading the Highlanders out.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: Connor Garden Bashup.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, yeah. Um, that is, that's ouchful.
Jarrod Dyke: Ouch. That's a, that pulls at the heartstrings right there.
Grumpy Old Prop: It does. Um, did the Chiefs get themselves a fly half, please? like ah
Jarrod Dyke: Someone that can play the position.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Someone who's actually, yeah, because they, they got rid of Josh Iwani, which fucking sucks because he, what he actually made the attack run when he came on. um Wow.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: They really did not make many moves at all. They didn't, they only lost Iwani and yeah,
Jarrod Dyke: Now.
Jarrod Dyke: Brought in.
Grumpy Old Prop: Jerome Brown.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, this I'll see. Well, I'm interested to see what this rambling out character does.
Grumpy Old Prop: Hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: That's that's one thing I'll say, but they usually produce good backgrounds, at least.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Crusaders looks like they, they added some like solid, like solid players.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, yeah, you lost Fergus Burke, but I mean, James O 'Connor is like, if if you want to win, he can, he can help you do that. Let's put it that way.
Jarrod Dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: You know, he's not a long -term guy, obviously, but, um, like they didn't, they didn't, they added some you know potential long -termers, but yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Springer, maybe. We'll see how that works out. They got smart and got rid of Lee half penny. Like, yeah, we don't, we don't, we don't need that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh yeah. and he's done so He's done wonders at at Harlequins though.
Jarrod Dyke: We don't need. Barf. Barf, Silla. Uh, they, I'm, and George and I were talking
Grumpy Old Prop: but we you know we got like you know for So we we were you said lumping Fijian with Australia, right?
Jarrod Dyke: Mm hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: So then Moana, one of Pacifica, like that
Jarrod Dyke: Yep. That's the big one right there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, they, you know, they, they signed a, this, I don't know, kind of middling. He's a little old, you'd think coming, coming over from, from, uh, Japan.
Grumpy Old Prop: He's 30.
Jarrod Dyke: and Aging old man.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, we'll see about that.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, obviously, Artie and Dryden Bash are both over there. Ponyphile and Massily has gone over there as well. I think that's to their benefit.
Grumpy Old Prop: And you know what, yeah, you know, I like, um, Alamalo too.
Jarrod Dyke: Cione and Havelia has gone over there, like, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, he always...
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, we'll see. We were we were talking about it on the on the during the draft. I think he's ah he's picked up something nasty. so
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh no.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, yeah, so we'll see how that works out. But should he come, he, should he become healthy? There's good things that could potentially happen. Uh, that's the, that's obviously the hope. Um, yeah. And I'm, and I'm looking at the, the guys that are leaving like, and Ari came to us, which I'm like, I was pissed about. I was like, no, we don't need him. God damn it. Um, kept who retired.
Jarrod Dyke: Tewi Tewuki is probably the only one that was like I would be very upset about because he's he's usually pretty good when he plays, but he's...
Grumpy Old Prop: I don't know some of them all along.
Jarrod Dyke: ahs Okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: There's an article from literally yesterday.
Grumpy Old Prop: um Unless that's like an old quote from him or something, but. um No, he's no, because he's talking about potentially playing um for for Samoa the next couple of years.
Jarrod Dyke: Okay. Well, good.
Grumpy Old Prop: So I think he's yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Glad to hear that. Good.
Grumpy Old Prop: I think rumor rumors.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, maybe maybe maybe we know.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, he scared me. He's you know, he's one of one of my guys i he like we. OK.
Jarrod Dyke: No, I wasn't trying to promise.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, scared me.
Jarrod Dyke: Promise I wasn't. um We'll see. But anyway, I know it's just so long.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, rebels, the rebels in and out is.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, harsh, don't do that.
Jarrod Dyke: um So who in who in Australia is finally going to challenge? Like, are they going to finally challenge?
Grumpy Old Prop: um I think the ties have they benefited the most, I feel like.
Jarrod Dyke: One of these Kiwi teams are, are they just, are they just going to have another wet fart?
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, well, I think the Western force, I think benefited a little bit too. Did they, for some reason I thought they did.
Jarrod Dyke: A little bit.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, they didn't. Okay. I was wrong about that. Um, yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. They, they got some guys, they did sign some other guys, but they didn't get a ton out of the, the rebels. Um, Dylan Page is their big signing for. This season here, I would say, you know, some might say Swain, but blah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Um, I guess the reds, the reds did well for themselves though. Um, solid, Carlotto, Ken M, Mason, Gordon, Doug, Unu.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Some guy named Anderson with a weird first name.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. I mean, talking, it was a, it was a natural fit that you're going back there.
Grumpy Old Prop: um Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: I'm going back there.
Grumpy Old Prop: um But I mean, the Todd's got tiny, all too. Oh, that's like the but get so.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, if he's healthy, he's gotta be healthy.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's true, too. That's always.
Jarrod Dyke: He's gotta be healthy.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, Callaway's a good one as well.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, wait. Yeah, it's not bad.
Jarrod Dyke: Nah, I'm kinda over Rob Liotta. He needs to be, well, they're not supposed to back row.
Grumpy Old Prop: Me too.
Jarrod Dyke: Eh.
Grumpy Old Prop: But he could be a he could be a six. The problem is they were they were putting him not at six.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, better put him, well, they put him at eight for a little while, aren't they?
Grumpy Old Prop: um Exactly.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: And it's not no, but the ties don't have to do that because they've got a ah pretty decent um and mobile back row.
Jarrod Dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: This actually kind of helps. You can if you want to throw him at six, then that's great. They've got um
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh shit, what's his name? The Fun Hair.
Jarrod Dyke: Who? Oh, Gamble?
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, Mustache.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep, I got him.
Grumpy Old Prop: Same difference.
Jarrod Dyke: Langie Gleason.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: I like him a lot. um Yeah, they lost. I like shit Hollywood was solid. That's a, that's, that's a bit of a loss for me.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm -hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, and Parisa, those are the names that really stick out for me that they lost. But I mean, additionally, by subtraction, by getting rid of Ned Hanigan, Lachlan Swinton, I can tell you that much right now.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: You know, Hanigan just never really did it for me and Swinton's a walking card. So pass.
Grumpy Old Prop: right right so and then but the the again the um the Reds did pretty well for themselves too um you know they're they're big they're you know who'd be their big loss I guess Mac Greeley would be their biggest loss and Jordan Pattaya
Jarrod Dyke: Totally.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, but then, you know, as we said, Dalgunu Anderson, you can pick, yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Potiah. Dumbass.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um,
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. And they, and, and I liked that. And obviously we were fans of, um, Lana here. So that, that, that's another year for him to, to develop.
Grumpy Old Prop: and Mason Gordon is And Mason Gordon is 21 too.
Jarrod Dyke: And he's gotten some experience with the wallabies.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like he can, he can, he can play fly half.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: He can play, wasn't he playing 15? Like.
Jarrod Dyke: I think he played a little 15. Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: that's you know that's ah That's an upgrade over Mac really for sure.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Yeah. And from, from the accounts of one of our, one of our friends, um, Jeremiah Murray looked good in person. So that was, there's that as well.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah
Jarrod Dyke: So I don't know if the Australians did enough to overcome. what has been their shortcomings.
Jarrod Dyke: But I think there's a little bit, a good reason to have hope only because they were able to consolidate more talent into their teams.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: And I'm not convinced that the but a lot of the Kiwis teams, a lot of the Kiwi teams did a ton. Like like I said, I think the Hurricanes got worse. um Moana got better with, you know, some good signings.
Grumpy Old Prop: yep
Jarrod Dyke: I'm still not convinced of the Highlanders and whatever the hell they're doing. I need to see it from the crusaders. And yeah, like you said about the chiefs, chiefs are going to have a hole at 10. Cause while DMACC is an amazing player, he's not a 10 and that's, that's going to be a problem.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, he's not.
Jarrod Dyke: While they continue to try and pedal that noise, have fun.
Grumpy Old Prop: So it's looking like, yeah, it's looking like the blues are just going to cruise a little bit because who their biggest loss. I mean, they lost a cure you on it. That's rough.
Jarrod Dyke: That's annoying, no doubt.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, but what did they lost Brycene? It's looking break.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, whatever. Whatever, and then they get Barrett back.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. That, that, for yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: So, yeah, that helps.
Jarrod Dyke: Possibly one of the best world 10s for a long time, so yeah. Not so bad.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, so probably Blues, and then we'll see who else steps up, honestly.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, I wouldn't be surprised to see an Australian team, wouldn't be surprised to see it ah Blues Reds in the final.
Jarrod Dyke: Like in the final, I'd be fine. I'd be into that. Provide that the hurricanes just bow out completely.
Grumpy Old Prop: Well, yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: If we could just set my file, I'd like to win the damn thing, but you know.
Grumpy Old Prop: right Like, you know, Chiefs and and Hurricanes in the semi -finals. I'd be okay with losing to the Reds or the Blues.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that's I think that's a good call. Yeah, I definitely see blues being in the final minimum. um I don't see how I don't see how it gets worse from there, though. Not for them at least.
Jarrod Dyke: Okay. Let's have a and spinning yarn over here for the for the MLR.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, yeah, I mean, there are, there are good things to like about what's going on a little bit in this, in the terms of this definitely a shift of power going on with what's going on with some of these teams.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean
Jarrod Dyke: so Um, Anthem has made some moves to try and not get their ass kicked so much. Um, One guy that i hope I hope people notice right away is um a young kid they signed, his or that they have, his name's Dylan Fortune.
Jarrod Dyke: He played a big role in the USU -20, reaching the junior trophy ah last summer.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay.
Jarrod Dyke: So yeah he he's yeah, I liked a lot of what he did. I don't think they picked him to start the final, which was my biggest concern. I was like, ah
Grumpy Old Prop: a Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: He's good. And then I think they also have another guy that's pretty young. And what I believe was also a part of that team, Storti, or at least he's he's young. Maybe he wasn't a part of that team, but he's pretty good and and pretty young.
Jarrod Dyke: So I like the way that looks for them. Cause they signed Mitchie.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, that's...
Jarrod Dyke: Mitchie, no, no, come back.
Grumpy Old Prop: that's that That hurts.
Jarrod Dyke: That hurt. I mean, there were a lot of things that hurt the soft season for the free checks. Starting right with fricking losing Matthew.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, well, that that was in that. I mean, I think we walked out of. I think we I was talking about that as soon as we walked out of the um the conference championship.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like that could, that's probably the last time we see Matthew because if they win, he's gone.
Jarrod Dyke: Right. No, I i agree.
Grumpy Old Prop: So it yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: I agreed. ah I'm pretty sure I did. I was like, yeah, you're probably right. You're probably right.
Jarrod Dyke: Uh, yeah, that that was, hurt that was hurtful.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like this is not a league where nobody needs to be Vince Lombardi of the MLR and it's not in a position to be that yet. So it's like, I'm going to go, I'm going to go find the glory where they can.
Jarrod Dyke: No.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep. Um,
Grumpy Old Prop: But at the same time, we got you know new beat the new coach, same as the old coach. So, but we're ahead of ourselves.
Jarrod Dyke: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. no Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: wow
Jarrod Dyke: And then.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, I think Chicago's going to be a ah ah team in the East to to challenge, obviously. um
Grumpy Old Prop: But i I don't know, I can't take them seriously if they signed the Ali DeVoto. I just, I can't, I cannot.
Jarrod Dyke: ah Sad thing is he's probably going to come in here and be a superstar.
Grumpy Old Prop: perhaps
Jarrod Dyke: Tim Sveil.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah tim sweet
Jarrod Dyke: Tim Sveil.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: Hi, Tim. What's going on, man?
Grumpy Old Prop: good
Jarrod Dyke: Long time no see.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah it couldn eat
Jarrod Dyke: I like the... I like the Carl Suh guy that they that they have playing full back fly half for that for them.
Grumpy Old Prop: good
Jarrod Dyke: He's pretty good. but I like Rumble a lot. I wish he was fucking American. He's not though.
Jarrod Dyke: Faucet's overrated. That's not news.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, yeah, Charlie able solid. I think I'll keeps overrated as well.
Grumpy Old Prop: No Augsburg is another year older.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, yeah, I mean, solid guy, but you know, he's, he's not gonna lay it up.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean he's he seems pretty yeah Right,
Jarrod Dyke: He's also not gonna lose you many games either. So he's a solid choice.
Grumpy Old Prop: oh, yeah, no like what I'm saying is like every year he has now is going to be the best year he's, he's going to have the rest of his career. Like he's, he's on his way.
Grumpy Old Prop: He's on his way down and there's no disrespect to that at all.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Cause he's still a very good player. It's just, he's not the, I don't see him taking over a game the way he could do like two or three years ago.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Probably about three years ago, I'd say, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. And then, you know, really freaking jump around a little bit here. The West. i Rugby Los Angeles is just going for it. They really are.
Jarrod Dyke: Now they're, they're making their claim right now that it's going to be their year, which I mean, it's also don't have the same fate as the D bag that on the last LA team. I love it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, but I'm just wondering, um, you know, well, who were they, who, who are they overreaching for here? Um, like Christian Dyer is, I mean, he's good, but no, he's well, no, he was, he came from, um, the saber.
Jarrod Dyke: He's I think he's been there. So that's not a big deal.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: He did come from the server cats.
Grumpy Old Prop: He came from the saber cats.
Jarrod Dyke: You're right. You're right. You're right. um Yeah, Mikey.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like,
Jarrod Dyke: So since a that's an that's a he's been doing he's been wallowing away over in protea like just doing nothing and not getting a ton of playing time quite honestly, so to Nancy which we saw in the departed for the for the force that that'll be solid for them.
Grumpy Old Prop: But again, right. and And I
Jarrod Dyke: Um, comes to Hall of Perch or no.
Grumpy Old Prop: can't imagine the ping leo leofano much.
Jarrod Dyke: That annoys me. I can't believe they got him.
Grumpy Old Prop: Who is that Bertrano?
Jarrod Dyke: Oh fucker.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Perch no. Um, Lili Afano again. Solid.
Grumpy Old Prop: But solid player, but I hope they're not paying him to that's the that's those two guys are the ones that I'm worried They might be paint like if they're gonna overreach for someone that's those guys because like Reese I'm sure can make decent money like for MLR, but he's not gonna make like I Don't know I I'm just like again.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm -hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm speaking out of warriors for what you said um That they overreach
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, no, and you're not wrong on that. um and and Yeah, that one hurt too into a big time.
Grumpy Old Prop: The Reese McDonald signing hurts, that that hurts hard.
Grumpy Old Prop: But didn't he score that, was it against, wasn't against them?
Jarrod Dyke: He'll be the the one where he basically broke himself.
Grumpy Old Prop: That the try that they, he just chased it down and he broke his arm. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah ye Yep, that was exactly who it was. That's probably what made them want to do it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. They're like, okay, you do that. We need you. like Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Lucas Pastor Yoshi wait time out. I don't know if this is the same guy, but I Feel like we had a guy here in Boston with the same name am I losing my shit Lucas Pastor Yoshi the coaches Okay um Might have been him
Grumpy Old Prop: Who's that? who Where? Um, it doesn't sound familiar.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep. I think it was him. Cause I see a picture of him wearing his, his, his 13th Jersey.
Grumpy Old Prop: Really? Oh, okay.
Jarrod Dyke: I think it's a, yeah, they get the Boston 13th Jersey. Maybe I'm losing my shit.
Grumpy Old Prop: You want to, uh, send it to me.
Jarrod Dyke: But yeah, if it's, if this is the guy I'm thinking of, but all right, good for him. Yeah. I remember that. All right. I'll say, I'll show you. I'll get to that to you afterwards.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, anyway, that's cool. If that's it, if that's who I'm thinking of, that's really cool. Anywho, uh, yeah, I don't, I think it's, you know, Los Angeles is conference to lose in the West. And then, um, we'll see who comes out of the East. I, you know, talking, we'll go to the free jacks. Um, I don't know if we've done enough to replace what we've lost. I'm pretty sure we haven't, you know, we have some solid signings and.
Jarrod Dyke: Hope to God we can get, we can stop Kyle from playing as much as possible.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: I think Miami's going to challenge us this year. You know, old glory is not going to go away. Chicago. We talked about it before they got a solid team as well. Um, yeah, I think it's, I think it's a real toss up.
Jarrod Dyke: It's a true toss up in the East this year.
Grumpy Old Prop: one Potentially. i still I still do like what the free jacks have. um you know, rid losing Reese is big, losing Mitch is big.
Grumpy Old Prop: um A lot of the back rows, um Jacobson, Sigrin, Baker, those are, that's hard.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm hmm. Those are.
Grumpy Old Prop: um But bringing back the mechanic is huge. um That's right.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, good experience right there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Harrison Boyle has been here before.
Jarrod Dyke: I'm concerned about that, because that's like, that's what this was.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's not, well, they have to have, yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: That's Ryan Martin's guy, and I get it. But like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know about that one.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Um, right.
Jarrod Dyke: And yeah, we still have to we still have probably three of the best centers in the league. So hopefully we can ride them.
Grumpy Old Prop: And Jack Reeves is still, Jack Reeves is no fucking slouch either. So to me, like bastard for, for Reeves, I'll, I'm okay with that trade off.
Jarrod Dyke: Right. Yeah, and you can walk.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: and We have a we have a solid songs. We don't include fucking dipshit.
Grumpy Old Prop: And I'm interested in seeing.
Jarrod Dyke: We have a solid front row.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, I'm interested in seeing some of the new guys that they've, they got like, maybe not the, obviously not the draftees, but, um, some of the other younger players that they've got the, the draftees, I think are interesting too, that they went for, um, to, uh, loose forwards in this, in this drama half.
Jarrod Dyke: Cared.
Jarrod Dyke: That should be interesting.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like that's, uh, that's interesting. Cause they've got, you know, they've got depth there, but it's also good to build there for the future. Like learn from the guys who are some of the best in the league.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. So hopefully, yeah, hopefully we see.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, I'd say Patras is probably the guy that we need to keep healthy.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm. Oh yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: And then, and bellicotta.
Grumpy Old Prop: And, and gp both JP, both JPs.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, both JP's would be good. Yep, as well. Yep. Yep, I agree. So yeah, ah could New England get to the final again? They could.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, they're gonna need probably a little bit of luck and they need to get smart and stop playing Kyle.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. And, and again, there's no shame in, um, not winning three straight, right? Kansas city.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, kind of let's get it's it's kinda hard. Um, and and then, and then, um, if you didn't see there's, there's, there's, there's some new rules that we're talking about here.
Jarrod Dyke: And a lot of them have to do with getting rid of scrums, which means Kyle's kind of out of a job anyway. Cause that's supposedly his one skill set because there's a lot of law changes that are leaning towards, um,
Jarrod Dyke: Going towards like, dude, just like if you have, if you turn the ball over on a mall, then they're just going to give a free kick. If you knock the ball into touch and just making you take a line out now, like there's a lot of stuff around just.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh,
Grumpy Old Prop: oh so there's no, not even the scrum option.
Jarrod Dyke: They're taking away scrum options for a lot of things. Knock ons are still scrums. And I think, I think like carrying it back over the, over the goal line can still be a scrum, but that's about it. And then if you kick it out the back, it's a scrum way back where you came from, but yeah, that's it. Everything else is.
Grumpy Old Prop: wild.
Jarrod Dyke: Everything else is going to be free kick or, or line out so or, or, or just play. yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: And that's, yeah, I saw people complaining because um they're like, this is just gonna set the US back in in rugby on the world stage because of the players aren't used to scrummaging and it's like, you know, they still scrum, like, they're still gonna scrum, like,
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: 10 to 12 times a game like then I don't like this whole like we have to scrum keep strong like more scrums like who the fuck like Look, I'm a front row Although I have played other positions and will will claim to not be a front row when it the the need arises But ah fuck I was a front row um Strums were like my bread and butter.
Grumpy Old Prop: I was I prided myself on being good at them But I didn't want it that doesn't mean I wanted to do them 25 to 30 times a game and
Jarrod Dyke: No, I don't either.
Grumpy Old Prop: It sucks after a bit. It's no fun. And it's, I don't like, you know how much it would piss me off when we had the option of scrum or line out and they feel like scrum and it's like you want to show them the dominance like no, I don't really need to do that.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, ah we can have a line out. It's much easier on me and i would have run like yeah like of of course the 15 is gonna say call for a scrum man that's why we don't like them right yeah no
Jarrod Dyke: My neck would, my neck will like you better.
Jarrod Dyke: Shut up, you stupid back. You don't know what you're talking about.
Jarrod Dyke: ah No, no, no. Yeah. I'm wasn't i'm i'm not going to say it's destroying the game by any means whatsoever. Is it going to change cakes I'm getting used to? Yeah, of course it is. It's changes. No shit. But I think where we're trying to keep eyeballs on the game,
Jarrod Dyke: if we can at least try something and see how it works and okay we would bring it back a little bit if it doesn't work out that that that I'm okay with like it's it's not there's almost no harm here so let's just play it out see what happens
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. And and right, I am also the guy who believes that knock ons should be allowed to be free kicks if they want the option. I would love to see a tapping like a knock on oh a double knock. Okay, well, okay, we got it. Just go like have at least have the option to do that. Otherwise, say no, you know, if you don't take it and, you know, a set period of time or whatever, it becomes an automatic scrub like, it's not an option. It's just a If you work to get the ball there for a free kick, go for it.
Grumpy Old Prop: um I think that's as much of an advantage as a scrum.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, well, I'll ah go, well, I'll go one short of um short of that. I do like a referee that will play a quick Scrum advantage.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes.
Jarrod Dyke: And just, all right, you have possession, like, and you didn't go backwards, you know, 20 meters, which that sucks.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Like if that happens, fucking go back for the Scrum, damn it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: But like, you've had possession, you've basically been in the same spot the whole time. Like, just sorry, go fuck yourself.
Grumpy Old Prop: it's ah you've Yeah, you've had enough.
Jarrod Dyke: Your Scrum's over.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, you have, like, three phases.
Jarrod Dyke: You've had your chance.
Grumpy Old Prop: after After three phases, if you haven't actually tried to, like, go wide, that's your own goddamn fault. Like, advantage over. If you run three forward crashes and don't go anywhere, no, no, no.
Jarrod Dyke: Let's keep playing, shall we?
Grumpy Old Prop: That's your fault. You're doing stupid shit.
Jarrod Dyke: that That's your fault.
Grumpy Old Prop: you You've had every opportunity to take advantage of the advantage, and you said no.
Jarrod Dyke: Absolutely.
Grumpy Old Prop: So, it's on.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, and we're done. All right, let's go to round two.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, I think I saw that in one of the games this this week, where it was, like, They spread the ball wide and they like they they had the chance to, but they knocked it on. And he's like, okay, we no we'll go back to the original scrum. Yeah, that's fine.
Grumpy Old Prop: You you you tried and it failed. But like, right.
Jarrod Dyke: You did try something, like it didn't work. ah We'll bring it back, but at least you tried something.
Grumpy Old Prop: And it was just, it was just, there are certain refs who'd be like, Oh, you got to try, you know, you really had the chance to break free and you didn't, or, you know, but that's the advantage. And no, give me one play. Either one actual attempt or a couple crashes and you're done.
Jarrod Dyke: Right. Yeah, a couple crashes and then you're done, guys, sorry. Yeah, let's go to that let's go to that yeah those Go to Rome first, Italy, Wales.
Jarrod Dyke: I mean, Gatlin got sacked. Do we need to say a whole lot more about that?
Grumpy Old Prop: And nobody's coming to his defense.
Jarrod Dyke: No, it was, it's, I will, here's the thing. And I've been watching, I haven't watched it all, but I've watched a little bit of the, the full contact from the second season here and.
Jarrod Dyke: Like I'm reminded of how many young players he decided this is their chance to get some game time. I mean, and I know some of them are hurt, but I also know some of them are very available and he didn't bother to pick them.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: So when you decided to lean on old war horses, he signed his, he signed his own wish right there.
Grumpy Old Prop: right
Jarrod Dyke: That was his pink slip. that They signed right there by picking the likes of Liam Williams, bless him to love a fellow towel.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, Try to get who else is in this whole this whole shit show walking. I understand that one Do you I mean he didn't he got hurt already so see ya but you know the likes of that Thomas for captain Daffy
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, I don't know why he's in this team. um Right. Yeah. And then um and like you had to bring on Blair Murray late because um but Liam had to drop and who else came on? um
Grumpy Old Prop: Freddie Thomas because, um yeah, Daffy, well, whatever. um You're not losing anything there.
Jarrod Dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's it's just like, yeah, you get fired for that. Like, that's, yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, and i I liked a lot of what I saw of Sam Costa Lola. Sherem said he's not available um for the for this tournament. And yeah, they're living and dying with a couple of guys that they just have to and it sucks.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right, it does.
Jarrod Dyke: You know, yeah, you could pick Gareth and scum, but again, you're only putting yourself into that situation where if I pick this guy and I don't succeed, I'm going to get fired anyway. So you might as well just pick some pups and said, let's do it.
Grumpy Old Prop: And what happened?
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Let's, let's see what happens and let them play a little bit.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: And then you might get a little, you might, maybe you didn't, maybe you wouldn't have, but you might get a little bit of leeway from people. If you're willing to pick some young kids again and let them grow a little bit more.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Like, I can't imagine people are dying to see Will Rowlands. in Wales.
Jarrod Dyke: No, no.
Grumpy Old Prop: like And that's no disrespect to Will. He's not a bad player. And even when it hammerhead for a little bit, he's actually much more um mobile and and useful in the loose again.
Jarrod Dyke: I think Ross, I think playing at Rossing is helping him there.
Grumpy Old Prop: um um Maybe he was... Yeah. um Yeah, he's definitely rediscovered some old wasps form, which is great to see.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: But still, it's like...
Grumpy Old Prop: And Daphne, what the... He doesn't do anything. I mean, yeah, he makes tackles and and and takes carries, but like not great tackles.
Jarrod Dyke: I'm about a meter at a time.
Grumpy Old Prop: And yeah, and not, he doesn't go very far. And it's like, but he's doing the work and it's not really work.
Jarrod Dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's not producing anything. He's just smashing into a wall on offense and the defense.
Jarrod Dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, but you should be, you should be playing Freddie Thomas.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. And while you should be, I agree.
Grumpy Old Prop: He should be one of your starters because he's actually capable.
Jarrod Dyke: As you're playing really well so for a cluster lately too.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Um, Jack Morgan has been fantastic, but yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, yeah, he's been one of the better players for them. I'm glad he's their captain again. Um, and while, you know, we, listen, I was not a fan of the way we really won this game, but they didn't need to do more than they did.
Grumpy Old Prop: No.
Jarrod Dyke: As you, as you, you and I were talking about, um, during the game, but like, yeah, Wales were happy to just cough up penalties left, right and center.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: This could have been a lot worse. Honestly, if Italy decided to frigging nut down and do it, like they were just like, they, they're almost refused to, to go for the line for whatever reason.
Grumpy Old Prop: It could have been a lot worse.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Like Italy should have had 40 points in this game.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like that's, you know, yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: You know, some surprise squeaky bum time later on, but and even still.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like they, they you know, Wales had the chance to tie at the end. Like that's, that shouldn't have been the pick case, but at the same time Italy were just content to kick, kick for posts and whatever. Like that's all they had to do ultimately.
Grumpy Old Prop: And they were right. That's all they had to do. So fire the coach.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and it was, yeah, that's exactly it. And it, it, as soon as that penalty trial went down, it was like, Italy's got to bang this deep and make whales play from all the way back there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: And if they're smart, they're not going to go into rucks unless they absolutely have to.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: They're going to be, they're going to stay on sides. And they did exactly that until Zulani finally saw a chance and said mine and snapped it off of them. So, uh, yeah, listen, good, good on the Azuri, Kisada, well done.
Jarrod Dyke: This is, you know, another point in there. in their column for them and to say, yeah, we are not the, you know, we're not the assholes of this whole thing anymore. You guys are. So welcome.
Jarrod Dyke: to Welcome to reality. Well, I don't see, unfortunately, like just because gas is gone, I don't see anything getting any better.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Sorry. they did it They did it at the right time, because they have a week here where they can, and this is not gonna be the permanent answer, the guy that they appointed.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Nope.
Jarrod Dyke: He's going back to his club after this tournament. He's already made that very clear. He signed in to deal with them, the whole shebang. um But at least they're giving him two full weeks to try and work something out here.
Jarrod Dyke: And then, and then, then, we have Le Crunch.
Grumpy Old Prop: This was honestly a surprise classic game.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. I mean, I did not have Elliot daily scoring the winning try on my bingo board. I can tell you that much right now.
Grumpy Old Prop: On the best part is it's a French move.
Jarrod Dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's like, that's a move that they they've used. And um thanks. I think it was a squidge. I learned it from. um But that was a um a maneuver. They use. What was it off a lineup?
Jarrod Dyke: Yep. It was offline.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. And, uh, yeah, England used it against them and just carved him up with it. And daily, all he literally just could have, he walked in. I mean, he, he's got tackled at the end, but I mean, yeah, he's not that.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep, he just fell over the line, basically.
Grumpy Old Prop: A faster person would not have, would not have had any, anybody touching them.
Jarrod Dyke: He's no longer that fleet of foot anymore.
Grumpy Old Prop: like Maybe somebody that they should have had in there, not, not Elliot Daly would have, would have not been touched on his way through, but there you go.
Jarrod Dyke: No. No, no. Right. Yeah. Well, well.
Jarrod Dyke: England did a lot of good things. I'm still not overly impressed with the with their manner of play.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: At the same time, like the French are just gonna be left wondering in so many ways left wondering why twofold, a twofold and in my brain, at least one, they left at least three tries on the board that they just didn't quite go to hand.
Grumpy Old Prop: At least. Right.
Jarrod Dyke: um And then the the number of times they were going for post might not get the like, guys, you're still away from home. I know you're good team and you you might be a better team in this than this England team. But if you continue to go for threes, you are gonna pay for it.
Jarrod Dyke: And sure enough, they did.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Yeah. And in England, to their credit, like, you know, we've we were talking about Alex Mitchell has had a like, a really poor Six Nations and this game was was honestly no different, I think. And I don't think that's his fault. Exactly. I think that there's there's multiple messages being sent. Like, I feel like the scrummers are being told kick it whenever, you you know, whenever you get a chance to.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, and everyone, like a lot of the other backs are like, no, we're going to run it. It like, Marcus Smith gets a great turnover. Cause, um, again, off of one of those, I think it was Billy Barry, uh, or Mo Fauna, one of those two, like knocked it on. Smith picks it up and immediately the whole left side is, is just open. And that's for the attack. And so he does the smart thing, gets it to his nine.
Grumpy Old Prop: who is inside, then inside the 22 and says, Oh, I'm inside the 22. I'm just going to kick the touch. Um, and fortunately the referee said, okay, well there's no advantage gained. So we're going to go to the scrum.
Grumpy Old Prop: Otherwise, you know, ah most drafts would be like, you kicked it. You're like, you dumbass. So like you, you were never.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, absolutely.
Grumpy Old Prop: you were always inside your like, you're always brought back in like, what are you thinking? Like, why are you doing this? And even his own team, it should be like, yeah, dude, we had the whole left side. Why did we were scored a try from our own 22, if you just kept ball in hand.
Grumpy Old Prop: um And no player wants to do that.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: No player says, you know what, I just want to kick the ball away.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah No At least one of them was I'm sure
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, if you tell me you have people outside, you scream and like, we got it, it's on, it's on, it's on. And I'm sure they were. Like nobody wants to do that, right? So it's it's coaching and I don't like that.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, to to your point about it being coaching, there's one there was one moment, and this might be just me seeing things, so I'm not gonna totally say it's definite, but there was a moment where Marcus got the ball on the right, and they were going left to right as we were watching on the TV.
Jarrod Dyke: And there was definite space. he knew he I think he had a proper, ah or maybe Miapha, who was not very quick um to pick on, and definite space otherwise.
Jarrod Dyke: And he almost and he hesitated. And it wasn't like his usual little step hesitate. He just slowed down and thought about it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Like, hmm. So it tells me something is in his brain that says, don't do this.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: So that is that is a little bit of concerning. Now, in the positives, Finn Smith, like first 10 minutes, yeah, as they pointed out in the broadcast, a little shaky.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: After that, masterful, absolutely masterful in running that attack.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, I mean, he I like so we we would talk about um Damien McKenzie being a fantastic 15, but not an international 10 or even a club level 10.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm -hmm. Great.
Grumpy Old Prop: Marcus Smith is both an international level 10 and an international level 15. And so to have someone like Finn Smith who can come on and pilot the attack like that and then make Marcus Smith, not the first receiver, but the second receiver so he can be free to do all those Like he doesn't have to worry about the distribution.
Grumpy Old Prop: He just reads what's in front of him and goes. And that's really what he's best at when he gets that opportunity.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, you know, there's, there's a lot to like about the structure of this line out and the way they're the lineup and the way they executed. Um, with the exception, of course, of the line out, um, I got ahead of myself because Luke Cowendiki, imagine if, imagine if they had a real fucking hooker for the start of this game.
Jarrod Dyke: All those people,
Grumpy Old Prop: How many line outs did they lose?
Jarrod Dyke: He bottled so many.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, you know,
Jarrod Dyke: All the people that were saying that Cowan Dickey is better than Theo Dan or Jamie George, back the fuck into your box, please.
Grumpy Old Prop: Luke, how Dickie is.
Jarrod Dyke: Get the fuck out of here. I'm not having any of it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, he's he's more literally he's he's one of the worst starting hookers in the pram. Not not anywhere near the best. I don't know why he's on this team at all. And that that performance on.
Jarrod Dyke: i would i i We talked about who I would have picked over him anyway. I would have taken Augray, so that's just me.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Yeah, absolutely. I've taken Thacker. I fucking anybody um and they're
Jarrod Dyke: I don't want to take Augur because of his age.
Grumpy Old Prop: Fair, I just like Thacker.
Jarrod Dyke: He's a little younger than Thacker. I do too. I do too. But unfortunately I think his time for England's gone.
Grumpy Old Prop: I probably, that's true too.
Jarrod Dyke: um they did They do have Langdon. Maybe they'll give him a shot.
Grumpy Old Prop: I think I'm gonna rock this. um But at the same time, I also wanna talk about, the um hot we we talk a lot of shit about Tom Curry.
Grumpy Old Prop: um I do wanna point out that a certain someone on this podcast and potentially someones I've talked about Tom Curry being oh ah certainly international worthy, six.
Grumpy Old Prop: Not a seven, not an eight, but but six, yes.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm -hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: um That was the best performance I've seen of Tom Curry in his international career, and it came at six. I just wanna point that out and put that out there.
Jarrod Dyke: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Tom Welles still would've scored the ball and cheeks popped to him, though.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh yeah, I almost would've scored on that, planner I don't know, I would've scored like a real like,
Jarrod Dyke: Not an attacking bone in this man's body, not a single one.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Not even a little bit.
Jarrod Dyke: Anybody that says otherwise, you are not watching the same game. Like, get out of here.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Right. Just for the same reason, like George Martin, I thought he played a pretty damn good game, a solid game. But I do too.
Jarrod Dyke: I like George Martin a lot. I really do.
Grumpy Old Prop: But when Chesham came on, it, um, he, and he was, he is, he is.
Jarrod Dyke: Oh, he's otherworldly sometimes. He's a nice, he's a nice sub second row. He really is.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, and I, but that also, to that point, like Martin did his job very well. He's just not, again, just like with Curry, Martin has very, Martin actually might have a slightly more attacking bone in his body than than Curry, but it's, yeah, but it's marginal and and inconsistent.
Jarrod Dyke: Sometimes he does that thing.
Grumpy Old Prop: But like, and to be fair, Chasm is inconsistent too, but he's inconsistent in the way that when he came up, like he was perfect in, in you know, coming on right at that the, through through you know, three quarter mark.
Grumpy Old Prop: just to finish out the game and just be a beast take and, you know, talk about Daffa Jenkins just taking carries. Look at the difference between the carries that that Jenkins takes and the ones that Chasm takes because Chasm goes to, you know, he doesn't run at the trunks.
Grumpy Old Prop: He runs at the branches and he gets some solid meters every time he touches it and provides clean ball every time he touches it.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like that's for a lock. Yes, please.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: And thank you. Um,
Jarrod Dyke: And we see the, and we'll talk about again in the next match, but six to split bytes again, like, you know, they had to put DuPont at 10.
Grumpy Old Prop: It does. It really does.
Jarrod Dyke: Like, and while he's a wonderful player and has done that role for his club to lose, that's at an international level, that is not his position and he doesn't do it very often. So it did not help them whatsoever.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: They're, they're, they're a better team with him at nine and. pretty much anybody else at 10. They could have probably put on another outside back and stuck Ramos at 10 and they would have been better off.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Right.
Jarrod Dyke: you know But they didn't, they they didn't have another one. So yeah, beats me. I think John Chase bit the bit on that one for sure.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, I agree.
Jarrod Dyke: And speaking of the next match, let's go up to Murray Field.
Jarrod Dyke: Well, I mean, let's start where the dink game kind of took a turn and that was the clash between Graham and Finn and just number one, very scary, very scary.
Grumpy Old Prop: Without game. Yeah. and And especially for Graham, who'd like literally had just been talking about coming back from a serious head injury, like. Oh, not good.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, these were his first two Six Nations games for a little bit because he keeps missing time, sadly.
Grumpy Old Prop: and Yeah, um and Finn that's that's just Yeah, you're boned I mean luckily luckily you have Tom Jordan who could slide in and I thought he played pretty damn well um Given the fact that he's going up against Ireland um Like it's it's not a game really I
Jarrod Dyke: Hmm. This green wave here.
Jarrod Dyke: It was a tough one. It was tough one for him to get thrown into that situation for, and yeah, yeah, he's played a little bit 10 in a scholarship before, but you know, let's be honest, the competition wasn't the same.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Mm hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. And honestly, a 14 point game is incredibly respectable given the like the imbalance there. it's It's not, you know, this wasn't it this should not have been and it really didn't feel like a competitive game after that.
Grumpy Old Prop: So and that's just this that's what happens when you lose one of the best tens in the world and one of the best wings in the world in in a single play.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: It doesn't matter what your split that you have on your bench is. It's hard to overcome that.
Jarrod Dyke: It is, it is.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, it is a lot harder when it's a six two and now you have no, and it's 21 minutes in and you have no backs ups whatsoever.
Jarrod Dyke: And I feel like because it happens. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: No backs up. And yeah, and you're using, you know, while Toby has um done a little bit on the wing, you know, would have been more helpful to have him play, play nine and then have a, you know, one of your many very talented wings, um, as a sub on the, on the bench instead, or, you know, one of your other centers that can move around or something.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Mm -hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: One scanner or something. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: And I know McDowell was the other one that came in, but still like you had other options and you just decided to be a hammerhead and go.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: you know, pound it through and say Sam, Sam Skinner didn't need to be in this game.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, he really didn't.
Jarrod Dyke: So let's be honest with that. So you could have stuck with Brown and Richie as your, as your back five, as it were, um, forward subs and rolled in there with.
Grumpy Old Prop: Which I thought worked. I thought Jack Dempsey had a pretty like, um, he he, he, he had a high compete level. He really was like, right.
Jarrod Dyke: He's still the, he's probably still their best number eight. It's still a problem position for them, I think, but he's probably still the best number eight.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's not, he's not the, yeah. But then to, to, to give him 60 solid minutes the way they did and then be like, okay, you're you're not, you're not ready to like, yeah, he's not there. I mean, even.
Grumpy Old Prop: Matt Fagerson is it yes by the time Dempsey was, it came off, Fagerson was the better loose forward, which, you know, that's the problem.
Jarrod Dyke: Bloop. Bloop.
Jarrod Dyke: that that That is the problem in itself.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: That that right there is a problem.
Grumpy Old Prop: So yeah, when, when like, and but it may figure cause Fagerson can keep his level of suck constant like for 80 minutes.
Grumpy Old Prop: I will grant him that. Um, but Dempsey could not keep his level of, of good up for much more than like 50 or so.
Jarrod Dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: So he's got to fix that, but at the same time, there's time for that. And then to be able to bring on Jamie Ritchie, that actually that, of that I thought it worked really well, but yeah, no, we didn't need to see if Sam Skinner.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, we, yeah, we do need to give mention to the, the Duhan try that McDowell put up, uh, put the chicken wing in for.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. That, um,
Jarrod Dyke: Can I have an order of six of those chicken wings, please?
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, please that was fucking spicy and delicious clean
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, no, that was good. ah yeah And I was like, Oh, did you just feed up when he, when I went down and the angle showed exactly what I was hoping it would, which was it.
Jarrod Dyke: He did. He did. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. You bleeding. All right.
Grumpy Old Prop: here
Jarrod Dyke: Let's go do some superlatives here. um Those that outdid themselves on the weekend.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, you know, well, just from the match you're talking about, I thought Tom Jordan um in a, in a tough situation.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Okay. Good job.
Grumpy Old Prop: um Yeah. Put on a real good fight.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Uh, I'm going to give, um, I'm going to give towns in the shout for sitting fed.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes. That, that was excellent too. That's, that's a tough decision to make when your, your, your medical staff is saying, yeah, he's, he's cleared.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, it is.
Grumpy Old Prop: And you're like, no, he's not right.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. When you, when you figure out later on, like something's up here.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, it's, it's the, you know, when, in when in doubt, sit them out.
Jarrod Dyke: I'm not into that.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's, we need to see that at the professional level and the international level.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, and it sets that's a good example.
Grumpy Old Prop: It does.
Jarrod Dyke: It sets a good example.
Grumpy Old Prop: um Who else out there themselves? Again, Tom Curry.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, gotta call it where it's where it is, you know?
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep, that's that. Yes.
Jarrod Dyke: um um Obviously we talked about Jinx coming on, doing well.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: um Shifting to the PWR for a second. um Alona owns the Chiefs right now. She's only played them twice, but she owns them. She has four tries and two games against them.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's, that's something they might want to to deal with.
Jarrod Dyke: Talk about being, talk about being my hero.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: um
Grumpy Old Prop: And there were some fun tries too. You can't even tell she broke her nose. Like I was, I like saw pictures of it and I'm like, she looks fine. Like, wow, that was like, but two weeks ago, shit.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. I mean, they did a good, they did a good job sorting that out.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, they did. better Better than any rugby player I have ever seen let's put it that way Right Yeah, no too don't ah yeah I guess they they they don't let them yeah, they don't let them do that at that level so help
Jarrod Dyke: Sort of dude.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Oh, I know. I've seen some bad nose breaks and like decided to reset it themselves. It's like, no, no, no, don't do that. Oh, nevermind.
Jarrod Dyke: No, that they're going to let someone else set it for them. That's which is probably the best. Um, Yeah, Amber Reed, they talked about it on the weekend as well. She had a great game. Shout it just a little bit.
Grumpy Old Prop: um I mean, I'd say jolly bear.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, wasn't good.
Grumpy Old Prop: Had a poop. um Actually, a lot of honestly, a lot of that French team kind of had a poop like Buddha, I thought was a ghost.
Jarrod Dyke: Wasn't good.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, Ruma, same thing.
Grumpy Old Prop: um Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: That's not his best position. I think they're a little bit desperate for locks right now, and I know he's a big boy, but that's not his best position.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: He's he's ah he's ah he's a very well -built back rower. he's not ah He's not a second rower. Mayafu is doing his job and doing everything he can in that second row, but Ramat's not helping him that much.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: so um I mean, I'm sorry to say it, but yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: no Sad. Got TA same thing. Definitely spitted a little bit with his some of his choices and decisions there.
Grumpy Old Prop: I feel like didn't Tommy, Tommy Allen spit a little bit too, he because he he missed quite a few of those kicks, if I'm not mistaken.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, you missed at least two, which is, and some of them are ones you should probably hit, to be honest.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. And they're the ones you should probably hit and you're, you're calling, you're you're calling too many of them. No, not helpful.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Go to the corner.
Jarrod Dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: I can go for a try at some point. Jesus.
Jarrod Dyke: Please.
Grumpy Old Prop: <unk>ing christ
Jarrod Dyke: Um. Any standout refs for you this week?
Grumpy Old Prop: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: no no
Jarrod Dyke: None for me. None for me.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, it wasn't like, I, yeah, I wasn't like particularly like impressed. Yeah. I just wasn't impressed with any of them. None of them really, uh, no, I can't say none of them pissed me off.
Grumpy Old Prop: They pissed me off.
Jarrod Dyke: There's a few that piss me off, so that's okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Well, let's just, let's just not, that's not what we do here.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Young player, young player to give a shout to.
Grumpy Old Prop: Finn. Finn.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, absolutely. Finn Smith. Well done, sir. um Coach.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, it's got to be Borthwick. He's he's like, yes, we there's still there's still a couple of issues with his lineups.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: um I did.
Jarrod Dyke: his Style.
Grumpy Old Prop: And but the thing is, that was much more of an attacking style. There's still too many you know still too many, like, pointless kicks, kicks to nothing. But Like you have, and I think that's again, how what they're doing with the nine.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's always from Alex Mitchell, just a i'm goingnna just box kick now for for no apparent reason. um And slate, slatede I think there's so much better you can do than than Henry Slade.
Jarrod Dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: So much better.
Jarrod Dyke: i The one thing he's supposed to be good at, he totally cocked it up this weekend, which is that which is those touch kicks.
Grumpy Old Prop: So you're right.
Jarrod Dyke: He sounds like, nope, you missed that.
Grumpy Old Prop: No. So so it's like if if you got a real center in there. That's really, that to me, that's the only and and the, you know, I will say the the other Curry, I don't think there was any need for that.
Grumpy Old Prop: You bring on Cunningham South rather than Ben Curry in that spot, I would think.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Jarrod Dyke: I need a twin that can do the exact same thing as the guy that's already on the field.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: No, you do not.
Grumpy Old Prop: and The guy who's crushing it at six. No, get Willis out there. Like, and if you want to, yeah, in that case, put, I mean, I'd rather have Tom Curry at seven than Ben, Ben Curry at six.
Grumpy Old Prop: With Tom Curry, it's like it's no put I'd rather put Tom Curry at seven and Chandler Cunningham South at six, then then bring Ben Kerry on to that at all.
Jarrod Dyke: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: right
Grumpy Old Prop: But it it worked out OK. So that's the other thing. The things he did work. So there you go.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: And against it, fucking talented team.
Jarrod Dyke: Oh, yeah. And I mean, there's, don't question it. There's still problems missing. There's still some guys missing from this French team that would make an impact, but, but there's still a lot of guys out there that are very good.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, and they, there was, yeah, there was just, um, and there was significant bed shittery from, um, from France, but like, you know, some of that was, you know, some of that was they they had a pretty dead defense against them was not the worst.
Jarrod Dyke: Some of the better players. Yep. Great.
Grumpy Old Prop: They've actually, they did improve some of their exterior defense, but not enough.
Jarrod Dyke: Nope. No.
Grumpy Old Prop: Enough to have them see ghosts and and knock it on, which I guess is enough to win in that.
Jarrod Dyke: Sometimes it does. Sometimes it does. um Yeah, I'll i'll give a quick shout out to Dave Ward, which is something I never thought I'd ever do in my life.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: um But here we are. Bristol are are in a pretty good position for themselves to make this playoff on so good for them um Big win over Exeter and that makeup came there ah Try the week That was good, that was really good
Grumpy Old Prop: ah the I like the Capoteo try. That was fun. And it was you know fairly early on in the week, but um yeah, because although again, the daily try is kind of up there too.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, I went with the B .I .B. had a try off the just completely broken shit house, right?
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, that was all right too.
Jarrod Dyke: Turned into something good.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: That was good. and We already talked about the do -ha -and -try. that That deserves a mention as well.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm -hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Player of the week.
Grumpy Old Prop: I think I'm sticking with Finn Smith on this one, just because of the the moment that he was in and and the way he responded.
Jarrod Dyke: Okay. Mm -hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: like Yeah, really, really enjoyed the the him the most um for for you know the relative like what for but for expectations and and and what happened.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Worthy.
Grumpy Old Prop: He had the the highest ah differentiator there.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Worthy. Um, I went with a guy that also had to respond in the situation he was in and that's, that was pentagas. You know, everyone was calling for Crowley to take this 10 shirt off of him and he put on a pretty master performance. Yes. We had that. We talked about everything that happened with.
Jarrod Dyke: the injuries and such, but he played what was in front of him.
Grumpy Old Prop: We We didn't talk about that 25 meter pass Fuck yeah, I mean Ash had to do so much work after
Jarrod Dyke: and He played really well with what was in front of him. So, Oh, I know fricking was that the one that went to Nash? Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, that is the difference that a really good pass can make, make their kids so work on that work on those passes.
Grumpy Old Prop: I saw that that was the longest that was also the longest pass of um this at least this round of Six Nations.
Jarrod Dyke: Wild, wild stuff.
Grumpy Old Prop: and And it was like, right on the money. You know, right, you know, Nash had all the you know, no pressure whatsoever. So it made it very easy. But it's like, it's still a hard pass to make the pass that yeah, the cat that everything after that is easy, but only if you make that pass.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah ah Dicks of the week, dick of the week.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, I, almost had to give it to to Dino lamb.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, almost crossed on that.
Grumpy Old Prop: You just, you just had a card too.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm -hmm, which was improperly awarded, it was not Riccioni, it was whoever the fucking loose head, whoever the loose head was or whatever it is, yeah, I don't know who it was, but yeah, it wasn't Richie, it was somebody else.
Grumpy Old Prop: And you're, you're, it was Lucchesi Lucchesi. Yeah. Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, it was the chess. I have it. ah I have it open. um They came on at the same time and it was the 77th minute.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: So. That was the Jesse. um
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, gave it to Ritchie, and they gave it to Ritchie though, idiots.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: It wasn't, I swear I was, yeah, now I'm gonna do that one. I still think James Delmon belongs nowhere near international Robia. He's absolutely dog shit. This wasn't a hard match for him to referee, but still there was a lot that he just like totally said, I don't know, I guess. It's like, oh, come on, dude, that can't be, that can't be what's going on in an international match as a fucking international test referee. Like, come on, dude, this is ridiculous.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, the standards getting ridiculous and I'm not, we're not going to get into it today because that'll be a longer conversation, but all right, sir. We have your business to attend to.
Jarrod Dyke: We got pick them for the first time in super rugby for 2025.
Grumpy Old Prop: We do.
Jarrod Dyke: Starting off with a fucking banger crusaders and hurricanes.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's in Christchurch, right?
Jarrod Dyke: Yes.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep. No, I, I listened to him.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Hurricanes have definitely fallen off a little bit there. There's still some good players and I hope camera guard becomes the leader that he needs to be in order for us to do good things this year.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: But, but, but I think it'll be the crusaders that win.
Grumpy Old Prop: who yeah It's going to, I think if anything, the canes are going to have And they could be way wrong here because i I think I've predicted stuff like this before. And and look, sometimes it's true.
Grumpy Old Prop: Sometimes it's not. um I'm the one who kind of leans towards it being true.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: When you lose someone is that like one of your best players, it's hard to figure out how to play without them because like there's so many times you're just like, oh, already he's got that.
Jarrod Dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Or it's like, we know we want to get into already here. I don't really want it. But no, no, no, it's it's your turn now because he's not there. Like there's a little bit of of sorting out how to play without him.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: And that that's, but you know, one of the only reasons I think crusaders are still reloading. I think they they obviously finished the year better than they started it. So.
Jarrod Dyke: They did. They did. They started to rattle off a couple of wins.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, so I think. I think they're still they' building back to what they need to be that they don't lose in their coaches is is huge. ah They're sort of adjusting to a new way of doing things and they have enough talent.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm -hmm. Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: So I'm going to go with crusaders for no, no disrespect to your, your guys.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. No, no, no.
Grumpy Old Prop: Obviously ties
Jarrod Dyke: None whatsoever. Tonnes Islanders.
Grumpy Old Prop: just cause I don't trust the Highlanders at all.
Jarrod Dyke: Right. Same with you on that one. Drew and Brumby's. This is in, this is in Fiji.
Grumpy Old Prop: It is, and I'm going to go with the drill.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep. Same. They don't lose very often there. Their problem is going to be figuring out what they, how they find wins on the road. That'd be the biggest problem. ah Blue's chiefs. Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: And then force and Moana.
Grumpy Old Prop: I good think we go with Moana here Yeah, it might be the longest is it the longest trip in um
Jarrod Dyke: Same. Yep. Same. I need to see it from the forest there. So does that as a long trip, by the way, even if, you know, Moana is still based in New Zealand right now. Like that's a long fucking trip, but now, uh, Jua over the to there is the longest.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay.
Jarrod Dyke: Because they're coming from very far east to pretty far west.
Jarrod Dyke: So that'd be a bitch, but yeah, nope. I, yeah, more. I have plenty of time to get there. Obviously you already, it's going to make a huge difference to them. I think. And he'll, he'll carry them over. He'll drag them over the line for this first one. I have a feeling.
Jarrod Dyke: All right, friends, sir that's going to do it for us on the rugby pods, pods. We'll catch you over on the fancy corner. If you're coming over there, awesome. we'll We'll see you there. If not enjoy the weekend of opening super rugby and we'll catch you guys later.
Jarrod Dyke: Have a good one. Everyone.
Grumpy Old Prop: Later.
Jarrod Dyke: Cheers.
