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Season 7- Episode 15- Spicy Chicken Wing (Super Rugby & MLR Preview, 6 Nations Round 2)
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It's more of that rugby ranting from those American dummies. On this episode, it's a double helping of previews as we look at both the upcoming seasons for Super Rugby and MLR, who are the favorites? Can the Free Jacks threepeat? Is it another Blues year? Then we're taking a spin around the most recent round of 6 Nations including the big day in London for Le Crunch. This stuff, and much more, so grab something to drink and join us friends!
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Transcript
Podcast Kickoff with Banter
00:00:29
Jarrod Dyke
Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the fancy rugby eggs. My name is Jared Dyke.
00:00:32
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm Ben Glauser.
00:00:34
Jarrod Dyke
Hey, where you been? I haven't seen you in a couple of days.
00:00:36
Grumpy Old Prop
It's it's been a spell.
00:00:39
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, right.
00:00:40
Grumpy Old Prop
um Yeah.
00:00:42
Jarrod Dyke
But we bal we will we welcome back ah Ben as a replacement for George. I'm popping this thing.
00:00:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh yes, that little incident.
Podcast App Critiques
00:00:51
Jarrod Dyke
Hey, that wasn't my fault. You shouldn't have got relegated.
00:00:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Let me just to not get an invite.
00:00:56
Jarrod Dyke
but That's not your favorite podcast app.
00:00:59
Grumpy Old Prop
That's more of than theyre not getting an invite.
00:01:00
Jarrod Dyke
Downloaded review or let you battle on the kill me.
00:01:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Cause you could have, you could have shared your screen with me so I could like see what was happening. Commented, but you didn't want to, you didn't want the smoke. So I get it.
00:01:15
Grumpy Old Prop
And I have zero, like, it doesn't matter. Cause there's zero consequence. There would have been zero consequences for me.
00:01:19
Jarrod Dyke
I don't need you in my, I don't need you in my ear.
00:01:20
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm not even in, not even in that league.
00:01:23
Jarrod Dyke
i I don't need you in my ear. I have enough guys in my head already from that league. I don't,
Fantasy Rugby League Logistics
00:01:28
Jarrod Dyke
I don't need help. but
00:01:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Fair.
00:01:31
Jarrod Dyke
Specula George make sure that you buy a good friend George the fancy or maybe geeky coffee or beer The man is busy. He was just just doing all the six nations things and now he's about to do super rugby things He did just post the His his records with the live draft.
00:01:47
Jarrod Dyke
So that's fun as well yeah All right, you need some help you need some help I think
00:01:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Cool. I'm checking on the arm. I okay. We got four people in the league. Great. I think we need the other four to um yeah. Jump in, please. We had. Yeah.
00:02:04
Jarrod Dyke
Well, if we, I mean, I'd say, so this is an FYI for everybody in D2. If you're not joined by tomorrow, like midday here, we're going to start farming it out.
00:02:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Well, but yeah, the draft well, the draft is. ah Oh, that's true, because also the draft is I think 3 p.m. tomorrow.
00:02:22
Jarrod Dyke
<unk> Tomorrow.
00:02:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:02:23
Jarrod Dyke
Okay.
00:02:23
Jarrod Dyke
So there you go.
00:02:23
Grumpy Old Prop
So I'm going to be auto drafting, which kind of sucks.
00:02:25
Grumpy Old Prop
But it's like I tried to do something for this past Sunday and we got it was just Aubrey that we joined.
00:02:26
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. So there you go.
00:02:31
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:02:32
Grumpy Old Prop
um And yeah, but at least Barty and Franco are on board, so.
00:02:34
Jarrod Dyke
That's not good. So.
00:02:39
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, they're good. they're They're good for that usually. So hopefully.
00:02:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Anywho, save all that for the fantasy quarter.
00:02:44
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, we'll get there
Kendrick Lamar's Halftime Show Discussion
00:02:45
Grumpy Old Prop
These people don't need to hear all that.
00:02:45
Jarrod Dyke
anyway.
00:02:47
Jarrod Dyke
Anywho, make sure that you don't know we already did that. Hi, look at that um' out of practice over here.
00:02:51
Grumpy Old Prop
and
00:02:52
Jarrod Dyke
I'm just skipping a week. No discrimination here on this podcast notion to be in sports or in life. um I did not watch the halftime show, but apparently Kendrick Lamar made quite a statement about
00:02:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:03:04
Jarrod Dyke
America and being built on the back of black people. So Ben, you were watching it.
00:03:08
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah and
00:03:10
Jarrod Dyke
So you you you give everyone the 411 on this whole thing.
00:03:12
Grumpy Old Prop
And one thing I missed, and I'm not sure how, um but um then again, we do have ah an almost one year old, so it could have been a crying baby who interrupted my my vision.
00:03:25
Grumpy Old Prop
But um yeah,
00:03:25
Jarrod Dyke
Very easy.
00:03:27
Grumpy Old Prop
um there's a so this goes just beyond that. But first off, it was funny, because I was I was reading a um ah thread on on the blue skies where people were talking about um Although the ways his um like people were complaining about his performance because they misunderstood it or they just didn't get it or they didn't like what it was saying even though it was true. And they laid out a couple of different complaints and I there's funny at work I heard every single one um and not
00:04:01
Grumpy Old Prop
um Not just from the white guys either some from some of the other and like what are you talking like you don't you you missed that, although, to be fair that I think that guy was. um He's from Vietnam so he might he might not have the full context but.
00:04:13
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, that's a possibility.
00:04:14
Grumpy Old Prop
um Right.
00:04:16
Grumpy Old Prop
um So like he's the first generation immigrant. So like, yeah, he he he wasn't here for a lot of that, or it's just been going on outside of his his view, which that makes sense.
00:04:20
Jarrod Dyke
Mhmm.
00:04:28
Grumpy Old Prop
um But yeah, I heard the same things from from like, I'm like, guys, the one thing that I missed, though, was um the reference to the Danzinger Bridge.
00:04:39
Jarrod Dyke
Mhmm.
00:04:40
Grumpy Old Prop
ah um And for those who don't know, ah um it's it's It sounds like a conspiracy theory, but um literally they were shooting people from the Danziger Bridge or on the Danziger Bridge during um Katrina.
Super Rugby and MLR Previews
00:04:58
Grumpy Old Prop
It was police and like military snipers were literally shooting at Americans who were trying to
00:04:59
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:05:05
Grumpy Old Prop
escape a hurricane because they were like oh you're looting you need to be it you needed to have have ah um like you're looting because you're still here in a in an emergency where you' so bureau it's mandatory evacuation and so they were just like you must the only reason you have to be here is looting because you're out and you're black yeah so they were just they literally shot people
00:05:25
Jarrod Dyke
Because that makes sense.
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Grumpy Old Prop
um So yeah, and he he referenced that in one of his ah in one of like the visuals on it. And I just I miss it. But also, I kept forgetting that it was in New Orleans because I can't fucking pay attention to that anyway.
00:05:41
Grumpy Old Prop
um So that all kind of makes like perfect sense. I just like he roasted Trump to Trump's face. He roasted Drake because that's what he does.
00:05:51
Grumpy Old Prop
And it was awesome. um And he he roasted America.
00:05:52
Jarrod Dyke
Apparently, that's the thing, yeah.
00:05:56
Grumpy Old Prop
And, you know, obviously, people have a problem with that. But Okay, how about instead of having a problem with the fact that people have a problem with America, we make a America something that people don't have legitimate gripes about?
00:06:09
Jarrod Dyke
No kidding. That would that would require us admitting things are wrong.
00:06:12
Grumpy Old Prop
like right Like the people who had the negative reaction to it, like none of it was about the the reality of it. It was just they don't like the way it made them feel. like
00:06:23
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm. Oh, I'm sorry. You were made to feel uncomfortable.
00:06:26
Jarrod Dyke
It's not too bad.
00:06:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:06:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, it's not nice to feel uncomfortable. Like, and like, you're not even a threatened, you're just uncomfortable. Like, gee, that that must suck.
00:06:35
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm. Yeah, let's let's talk about that in depth there, are my friends.
00:06:39
Grumpy Old Prop
These are also for people who like to say fuck your feelings. So that's hilarious.
00:06:42
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, no kidding.
00:06:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Anywho, that's, that's that.
00:06:44
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, the same people love to say that.
00:06:46
Jarrod Dyke
That's true.
00:06:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:06:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, if you didn't watch it, go watch it. It was first off, I mean, he's an excellent artist. And um His songs are bangers. They're fucking amazing. um And like he's he's he's he's he's going after the right people.
00:07:03
Grumpy Old Prop
So.
00:07:04
Jarrod Dyke
There you go.
00:07:05
Grumpy Old Prop
There you go.
00:07:08
Jarrod Dyke
Okay. So we're going to try and bleed, bleed our way through. Oh, wait. Yeah. Don't forget to grab our Patreon. I won't plug that too much though.
00:07:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, do that, too.
00:07:19
Jarrod Dyke
We're going to try and race our way through here. Super rugby and MLR previews and we won't spend too much time on both. We'll try and keep a total of 30 minutes to between the two.
00:07:30
Jarrod Dyke
um Absolute max. Let's talk about super web because it's a little bit more relevant to the stuff that we generally do. Not that we don't care about MLR, but it's just a little bit more relevant to the stuff we do here.
00:07:41
Grumpy Old Prop
But I mean, that's kind of a foregone conclusion, right?
00:07:43
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yeah. And if you're not going to watch WER, then you and I can't be friends. FYI.
00:07:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Because I mean, first off, the logos are awesome. So.
00:07:52
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, those were amazing. Those were amazing. All right. Um, super rugby. It's going to, I mean, lots of interesting things, you know, as it tends to happen, there's a mass exodus from super rugby because French teams pay French and Japanese teams pay these guys boatloads.
00:08:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:08:12
Jarrod Dyke
And that's just how it is. Uh, and also there's zoom we have team go, go under.
00:08:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:08:20
Jarrod Dyke
Not really awesome either.
00:08:21
Grumpy Old Prop
No, not good, not great.
00:08:23
Jarrod Dyke
No, no, some of. I'd say ah a good number of the players have found homes one way or another.
00:08:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:08:31
Jarrod Dyke
Some of them have actually come here.
00:08:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:08:34
Jarrod Dyke
A couple have gone over to England. Some have gone to Japan.
00:08:38
Grumpy Old Prop
and We got a coach out of it, so.
00:08:39
Jarrod Dyke
Yes, we did. Yes, we did. that's That was there. Their demise was our gain.
00:08:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:08:46
Jarrod Dyke
We'll see how that works out just the same.
00:08:48
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:08:49
Jarrod Dyke
um
00:08:51
Jarrod Dyke
Anywho, I don't want to go
00:08:58
Jarrod Dyke
quite team by team. I wanna just kinda look at the broader picture here. How about we just kinda look at Kiwi, look at a Aussie, and then we go from and go from there, and we'll lump the Fijians in with Australians.
00:09:07
Grumpy Old Prop
That sounds good.
00:09:10
Jarrod Dyke
So, going to that the dual islands. um
00:09:18
Jarrod Dyke
I feel like this this is anybody's to have to be had, honestly. i'm don't The hurricanes aren't gonna be as strong as they were last year, I don't think so. but also It's a matter, it's a question of are the Crusaders gonna return to what they used to do?
00:09:32
Jarrod Dyke
Because that's a question in everyone's head for sure. um You know, chiefs have spit it a couple times now, so people are wondering what's going on with there. Obviously the blues got Bodhi back, so that helps.
00:09:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. But a little bit.
00:09:44
Jarrod Dyke
So it's, and then, and then you know, ah people are still waiting for, like the meme, do something, to wait for the Highlanders to do something.
00:09:45
Grumpy Old Prop
and Yeah.
00:09:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, yeah.
00:09:57
Jarrod Dyke
Oh man, that's a, that's a sad one I just read.
00:09:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:10:00
Jarrod Dyke
I was just reading the Highlanders out.
00:10:02
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:10:03
Jarrod Dyke
Connor Garden Bashup.
00:10:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, yeah. Um, that is, that's ouchful.
00:10:07
Jarrod Dyke
Ouch. That's a, that pulls at the heartstrings right there.
00:10:11
Grumpy Old Prop
It does. Um, did the Chiefs get themselves a fly half, please? like ah
00:10:19
Jarrod Dyke
Someone that can play the position.
00:10:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Someone who's actually, yeah, because they, they got rid of Josh Iwani, which fucking sucks because he, what he actually made the attack run when he came on. um Wow.
00:10:31
Jarrod Dyke
Mm hmm.
00:10:34
Grumpy Old Prop
They really did not make many moves at all. They didn't, they only lost Iwani and yeah,
00:10:36
Jarrod Dyke
Now.
00:10:40
Jarrod Dyke
Brought in.
00:10:42
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, this I'll see. Well, I'm interested to see what this rambling out character does.
00:10:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Jerome Brown.
00:10:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Hmm.
00:10:48
Jarrod Dyke
That's that's one thing I'll say, but they usually produce good backgrounds, at least.
00:10:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Crusaders looks like they, they added some like solid, like solid players.
00:10:59
Jarrod Dyke
Mm hmm.
00:11:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, yeah, you lost Fergus Burke, but I mean, James O'Connor is like, if if you want to win, he can, he can help you do that. Let's put it that way.
00:11:08
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:11:09
Grumpy Old Prop
You know, he's not a long-term guy, obviously, but, um, like they didn't, they didn't, they added some you know potential long-termers, but yeah.
00:11:09
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:11:18
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Springer, maybe. We'll see how that works out. They got smart and got rid of Lee half penny. Like, yeah, we don't, we don't, we don't need that.
00:11:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh yeah. and he's done so He's done wonders at at Harlequins though.
00:11:27
Jarrod Dyke
We don't need. Barf. Barf, Silla. Uh, they, I'm, and George and I were talking
00:11:37
Grumpy Old Prop
but we you know we got like you know for So we we were you said lumping Fijian with Australia, right?
00:11:44
Jarrod Dyke
Mm hmm.
00:11:45
Grumpy Old Prop
So then Moana, one of Pacifica, like that
00:11:48
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. That's the big one right there.
00:11:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, they, you know, they, they signed a, this, I don't know, kind of middling. He's a little old, you'd think coming, coming over from, from, uh, Japan.
00:12:01
Jarrod Dyke
and Aging old man.
00:12:01
Grumpy Old Prop
He's 30.
00:12:03
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:12:05
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, we'll see about that.
00:12:09
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, obviously, Artie and Dryden Bash are both over there. Ponyphile and Massily has gone over there as well. I think that's to their benefit.
00:12:20
Grumpy Old Prop
And you know what, yeah, you know, I like, um, Alamalo too.
00:12:21
Jarrod Dyke
Cione and Havelia has gone over there, like, yeah.
00:12:26
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, we'll see. We were we were talking about it on the on the during the draft. I think he's ah he's picked up something nasty. so
00:12:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, he always...
00:12:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh no.
00:12:34
Jarrod Dyke
Um, yeah, so we'll see how that works out. But should he come, he, should he become healthy? There's good things that could potentially happen. Uh, that's the, that's obviously the hope. Um, yeah. And I'm, and I'm looking at the, the guys that are leaving like, and Ari came to us, which I'm like, I was pissed about. I was like, no, we don't need him. God damn it. Um, kept who retired.
00:13:00
Jarrod Dyke
Tewi Tewuki is probably the only one that was like I would be very upset about because he's he's usually pretty good when he plays, but he's...
00:13:08
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't know some of them all along.
00:13:08
Jarrod Dyke
ahs Okay.
00:13:09
Grumpy Old Prop
There's an article from literally yesterday.
00:13:14
Grumpy Old Prop
um Unless that's like an old quote from him or something, but. um No, he's no, because he's talking about potentially playing um for for Samoa the next couple of years.
00:13:26
Jarrod Dyke
Okay. Well, good.
00:13:27
Grumpy Old Prop
So I think he's yeah.
00:13:27
Jarrod Dyke
Glad to hear that. Good.
00:13:31
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, maybe maybe maybe we know.
00:13:31
Grumpy Old Prop
I think rumor rumors.
00:13:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, he scared me. He's you know, he's one of one of my guys i he like we. OK.
00:13:37
Jarrod Dyke
No, I wasn't trying to promise.
00:13:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, scared me.
00:13:40
Jarrod Dyke
Promise I wasn't. um We'll see. But anyway, I know it's just so long.
00:13:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, rebels, the rebels in and out is.
00:13:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, harsh, don't do that.
00:13:48
Jarrod Dyke
um So who in who in Australia is finally going to challenge? Like, are they going to finally challenge?
00:13:58
Grumpy Old Prop
um I think the ties have they benefited the most, I feel like.
00:13:58
Jarrod Dyke
One of these Kiwi teams are, are they just, are they just going to have another wet fart?
00:14:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, well, I think the Western force, I think benefited a little bit too. Did they, for some reason I thought they did.
00:14:13
Jarrod Dyke
A little bit.
00:14:14
Grumpy Old Prop
No, they didn't. Okay. I was wrong about that. Um, yeah.
00:14:18
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. They, they got some guys, they did sign some other guys, but they didn't get a ton out of the, the rebels. Um, Dylan Page is their big signing for. This season here, I would say, you know, some might say Swain, but blah.
00:14:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Um, I guess the reds, the reds did well for themselves though. Um, solid, Carlotto, Ken M, Mason, Gordon, Doug, Unu.
00:14:41
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:14:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Some guy named Anderson with a weird first name.
00:14:43
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. I mean, talking, it was a, it was a natural fit that you're going back there.
00:14:45
Jarrod Dyke
I'm going back there.
00:14:45
Grumpy Old Prop
um Yeah.
00:14:48
Grumpy Old Prop
um But I mean, the Todd's got tiny, all too. Oh, that's like the but get so.
00:14:55
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, if he's healthy, he's gotta be healthy.
00:14:57
Grumpy Old Prop
That's true, too. That's always.
00:14:58
Jarrod Dyke
He's gotta be healthy.
00:15:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:15:01
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, Callaway's a good one as well.
00:15:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, wait. Yeah, it's not bad.
00:15:05
Jarrod Dyke
Nah, I'm kinda over Rob Liotta. He needs to be, well, they're not supposed to back row.
00:15:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Me too.
00:15:11
Jarrod Dyke
Eh.
00:15:12
Grumpy Old Prop
But he could be a he could be a six. The problem is they were they were putting him not at six.
00:15:18
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, better put him, well, they put him at eight for a little while, aren't they?
00:15:19
Grumpy Old Prop
um Exactly.
00:15:21
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:15:22
Grumpy Old Prop
And it's not no, but the ties don't have to do that because they've got a ah pretty decent um and mobile back row.
00:15:23
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:15:28
Grumpy Old Prop
This actually kind of helps. You can if you want to throw him at six, then that's great. They've got um
00:15:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh shit, what's his name? The Fun Hair.
00:15:43
Jarrod Dyke
Who? Oh, Gamble?
00:15:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:15:47
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, Mustache.
00:15:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:15:50
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, I got him.
00:15:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Same difference.
00:15:53
Jarrod Dyke
Langie Gleason.
00:15:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:15:54
Jarrod Dyke
I like him a lot. um Yeah, they lost. I like shit Hollywood was solid. That's a, that's, that's a bit of a loss for me.
00:16:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:16:05
Jarrod Dyke
Um, and Parisa, those are the names that really stick out for me that they lost. But I mean, additionally, by subtraction, by getting rid of Ned Hanigan, Lachlan Swinton, I can tell you that much right now.
00:16:16
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:16:18
Jarrod Dyke
You know, Hanigan just never really did it for me and Swinton's a walking card. So pass.
00:16:23
Grumpy Old Prop
right right so and then but the the again the um the Reds did pretty well for themselves too um you know they're they're big they're you know who'd be their big loss I guess Mac Greeley would be their biggest loss and Jordan Pattaya
00:16:33
Jarrod Dyke
Totally.
00:16:40
Jarrod Dyke
Potiah. Dumbass.
00:16:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, but then, you know, as we said, Dalgunu Anderson, you can pick, yeah.
00:16:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Um,
00:16:46
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. And they, and, and I liked that. And obviously we were fans of, um, Lana here. So that, that, that's another year for him to, to develop.
00:16:59
Jarrod Dyke
And he's gotten some experience with the wallabies.
00:16:59
Grumpy Old Prop
and Mason Gordon is And Mason Gordon is 21 too.
00:17:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Like he can, he can, he can play fly half.
00:17:05
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:17:08
Grumpy Old Prop
He can play, wasn't he playing 15? Like.
00:17:09
Jarrod Dyke
I think he played a little 15. Yep.
00:17:13
Grumpy Old Prop
that's you know that's ah That's an upgrade over Mac really for sure.
00:17:17
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yeah. And from, from the accounts of one of our, one of our friends, um, Jeremiah Murray looked good in person. So that was, there's that as well.
00:17:26
Grumpy Old Prop
ah
00:17:30
Jarrod Dyke
So I don't know if the Australians did enough to overcome. what has been their shortcomings.
00:17:41
Jarrod Dyke
But I think there's a little bit, a good reason to have hope only because they were able to consolidate more talent into their teams.
00:17:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:17:48
Jarrod Dyke
And I'm not convinced that the but a lot of the Kiwis teams, a lot of the Kiwi teams did a ton. Like like I said, I think the Hurricanes got worse. um Moana got better with, you know, some good signings.
00:18:02
Grumpy Old Prop
yep
00:18:04
Jarrod Dyke
I'm still not convinced of the Highlanders and whatever the hell they're doing. I need to see it from the crusaders. And yeah, like you said about the chiefs, chiefs are going to have a hole at 10. Cause while DMACC is an amazing player, he's not a 10 and that's, that's going to be a problem.
00:18:16
Grumpy Old Prop
No, he's not.
00:18:20
Jarrod Dyke
While they continue to try and pedal that noise, have fun.
00:18:21
Grumpy Old Prop
So it's looking like, yeah, it's looking like the blues are just going to cruise a little bit because who their biggest loss. I mean, they lost a cure you on it. That's rough.
00:18:29
Jarrod Dyke
That's annoying, no doubt.
00:18:31
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, but what did they lost Brycene? It's looking break.
00:18:33
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, whatever. Whatever, and then they get Barrett back.
00:18:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. That, that, for yeah.
00:18:39
Jarrod Dyke
So, yeah, that helps.
00:18:44
Jarrod Dyke
Possibly one of the best world 10s for a long time, so yeah. Not so bad.
00:18:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, so probably Blues, and then we'll see who else steps up, honestly.
00:18:55
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Right.
00:19:00
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised to see an Australian team, wouldn't be surprised to see it ah Blues Reds in the final.
00:19:06
Jarrod Dyke
Like in the final, I'd be fine. I'd be into that. Provide that the hurricanes just bow out completely.
00:19:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Well, yeah.
00:19:15
Jarrod Dyke
If we could just set my file, I'd like to win the damn thing, but you know.
00:19:20
Grumpy Old Prop
right Like, you know, Chiefs and and Hurricanes in the semi-finals. I'd be okay with losing to the Reds or the Blues.
00:19:27
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:19:30
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that's I think that's a good call. Yeah, I definitely see blues being in the final minimum. um I don't see how I don't see how it gets worse from there, though. Not for them at least.
00:19:50
Jarrod Dyke
Okay. Let's have a and spinning yarn over here for the for the MLR.
00:20:00
Jarrod Dyke
Um, yeah, I mean, there are, there are good things to like about what's going on a little bit in this, in the terms of this definitely a shift of power going on with what's going on with some of these teams.
00:20:03
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean
00:20:20
Jarrod Dyke
so Um, Anthem has made some moves to try and not get their ass kicked so much. Um, One guy that i hope I hope people notice right away is um a young kid they signed, his or that they have, his name's Dylan Fortune.
00:20:35
Jarrod Dyke
He played a big role in the USU-20, reaching the junior trophy ah last summer.
00:20:43
Jarrod Dyke
So yeah he he's yeah, I liked a lot of what he did. I don't think they picked him to start the final, which was my biggest concern. I was like, ah
00:20:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay.
00:20:51
Grumpy Old Prop
a Yeah.
00:20:51
Jarrod Dyke
He's good. And then I think they also have another guy that's pretty young. And what I believe was also a part of that team, Storti, or at least he's he's young. Maybe he wasn't a part of that team, but he's pretty good and and pretty young.
00:21:04
Jarrod Dyke
So I like the way that looks for them. Cause they signed Mitchie.
00:21:09
Jarrod Dyke
Mitchie, no, no, come back.
00:21:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, that's...
00:21:15
Grumpy Old Prop
that's that That hurts.
00:21:16
Jarrod Dyke
That hurt. I mean, there were a lot of things that hurt the soft season for the free checks. Starting right with fricking losing Matthew.
00:21:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, well, that that was in that. I mean, I think we walked out of. I think we I was talking about that as soon as we walked out of the um the conference championship.
00:21:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Like that could, that's probably the last time we see Matthew because if they win, he's gone.
00:21:40
Jarrod Dyke
Right. No, I i agree.
00:21:43
Grumpy Old Prop
So it yeah.
00:21:43
Jarrod Dyke
I agreed. ah I'm pretty sure I did. I was like, yeah, you're probably right. You're probably right.
00:21:49
Jarrod Dyke
Uh, yeah, that that was, hurt that was hurtful.
00:21:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Like this is not a league where nobody needs to be Vince Lombardi of the MLR and it's not in a position to be that yet. So it's like, I'm going to go, I'm going to go find the glory where they can.
00:22:00
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:22:04
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. Um,
00:22:06
Grumpy Old Prop
But at the same time, we got you know new beat the new coach, same as the old coach. So, but we're ahead of ourselves.
00:22:13
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:22:15
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. no Yeah.
00:22:18
Grumpy Old Prop
wow
00:22:18
Jarrod Dyke
And then.
00:22:22
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I think Chicago's going to be a ah ah team in the East to to challenge, obviously. um
00:22:29
Grumpy Old Prop
But i I don't know, I can't take them seriously if they signed the Ali DeVoto. I just, I can't, I cannot.
00:22:34
Jarrod Dyke
ah Sad thing is he's probably going to come in here and be a superstar.
00:22:40
Jarrod Dyke
Tim Sveil.
00:22:41
Grumpy Old Prop
perhaps
00:22:42
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah tim sweet
00:22:42
Jarrod Dyke
Tim Sveil.
00:22:45
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:22:45
Jarrod Dyke
Hi, Tim. What's going on, man?
00:22:48
Grumpy Old Prop
good
00:22:49
Jarrod Dyke
Long time no see.
00:22:50
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah it couldn eat
00:22:50
Jarrod Dyke
I like the... I like the Carl Suh guy that they that they have playing full back fly half for that for them.
00:22:53
Grumpy Old Prop
good
00:22:59
Jarrod Dyke
He's pretty good. but I like Rumble a lot. I wish he was fucking American. He's not though.
00:23:08
Jarrod Dyke
Faucet's overrated. That's not news.
00:23:13
Jarrod Dyke
Um, yeah, Charlie able solid. I think I'll keeps overrated as well.
00:23:19
Grumpy Old Prop
No Augsburg is another year older.
00:23:20
Jarrod Dyke
Um, yeah, I mean, solid guy, but you know, he's, he's not gonna lay it up.
00:23:23
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean he's he seems pretty yeah Right,
00:23:28
Jarrod Dyke
He's also not gonna lose you many games either. So he's a solid choice.
00:23:32
Grumpy Old Prop
oh, yeah, no like what I'm saying is like every year he has now is going to be the best year he's, he's going to have the rest of his career. Like he's, he's on his way.
00:23:45
Grumpy Old Prop
He's on his way down and there's no disrespect to that at all.
00:23:45
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:23:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Cause he's still a very good player. It's just, he's not the, I don't see him taking over a game the way he could do like two or three years ago.
00:23:58
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Probably about three years ago, I'd say, yeah.
00:24:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:24:04
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. And then, you know, really freaking jump around a little bit here. The West. i Rugby Los Angeles is just going for it. They really are.
00:24:15
Jarrod Dyke
Now they're, they're making their claim right now that it's going to be their year, which I mean, it's also don't have the same fate as the D bag that on the last LA team. I love it.
00:24:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, but I'm just wondering, um, you know, well, who were they, who, who are they overreaching for here? Um, like Christian Dyer is, I mean, he's good, but no, he's well, no, he was, he came from, um, the saber.
00:24:46
Jarrod Dyke
He's I think he's been there. So that's not a big deal.
00:24:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, yeah.
00:24:53
Jarrod Dyke
He did come from the server cats.
00:24:54
Grumpy Old Prop
He came from the saber cats.
00:24:55
Jarrod Dyke
You're right. You're right. You're right. um Yeah, Mikey.
00:24:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Like,
00:24:59
Jarrod Dyke
So since a that's an that's a he's been doing he's been wallowing away over in protea like just doing nothing and not getting a ton of playing time quite honestly, so to Nancy which we saw in the departed for the for the force that that'll be solid for them.
00:25:02
Grumpy Old Prop
But again, right. and And I
00:25:16
Jarrod Dyke
Um, comes to Hall of Perch or no.
00:25:17
Grumpy Old Prop
can't imagine the ping leo leofano much.
00:25:18
Jarrod Dyke
That annoys me. I can't believe they got him.
00:25:21
Jarrod Dyke
Oh fucker.
00:25:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Who is that Bertrano?
00:25:22
Jarrod Dyke
Perch no. Um, Lili Afano again. Solid.
00:25:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:25:25
Grumpy Old Prop
But solid player, but I hope they're not paying him to that's the that's those two guys are the ones that I'm worried They might be paint like if they're gonna overreach for someone that's those guys because like Reese I'm sure can make decent money like for MLR, but he's not gonna make like I Don't know I I'm just like again.
00:25:37
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:25:45
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm speaking out of warriors for what you said um That they overreach
00:25:49
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, no, and you're not wrong on that. um and and Yeah, that one hurt too into a big time.
00:25:55
Grumpy Old Prop
The Reese McDonald signing hurts, that that hurts hard.
00:26:01
Jarrod Dyke
He'll be the the one where he basically broke himself.
00:26:01
Grumpy Old Prop
But didn't he score that, was it against, wasn't against them?
00:26:04
Grumpy Old Prop
That the try that they, he just chased it down and he broke his arm. Yeah.
00:26:08
Jarrod Dyke
yeah ye Yep, that was exactly who it was. That's probably what made them want to do it.
00:26:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. They're like, okay, you do that. We need you. like Yeah.
00:26:19
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:26:22
Jarrod Dyke
Lucas Pastor Yoshi wait time out. I don't know if this is the same guy, but I Feel like we had a guy here in Boston with the same name am I losing my shit Lucas Pastor Yoshi the coaches Okay um Might have been him
00:26:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Who's that? who Where? Um, it doesn't sound familiar.
00:26:52
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. I think it was him. Cause I see a picture of him wearing his, his, his 13th Jersey.
00:26:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Really? Oh, okay.
00:27:00
Jarrod Dyke
I think it's a, yeah, they get the Boston 13th Jersey. Maybe I'm losing my shit.
00:27:06
Jarrod Dyke
But yeah, if it's, if this is the guy I'm thinking of, but all right, good for him. Yeah. I remember that. All right. I'll say, I'll show you. I'll get to that to you afterwards.
00:27:07
Grumpy Old Prop
You want to, uh, send it to me.
00:27:18
Jarrod Dyke
Um, anyway, that's cool. If that's it, if that's who I'm thinking of, that's really cool. Anywho, uh, yeah, I don't, I think it's, you know, Los Angeles is conference to lose in the West. And then, um, we'll see who comes out of the East. I, you know, talking, we'll go to the free jacks. Um, I don't know if we've done enough to replace what we've lost. I'm pretty sure we haven't, you know, we have some solid signings and.
00:27:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay.
00:27:46
Jarrod Dyke
Hope to God we can get, we can stop Kyle from playing as much as possible.
00:27:50
Jarrod Dyke
I think Miami's going to challenge us this year. You know, old glory is not going to go away. Chicago. We talked about it before they got a solid team as well. Um, yeah, I think it's, I think it's a real toss up.
00:27:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:28:03
Jarrod Dyke
It's a true toss up in the East this year.
00:28:06
Grumpy Old Prop
one Potentially. i still I still do like what the free jacks have. um you know, rid losing Reese is big, losing Mitch is big.
00:28:18
Grumpy Old Prop
um A lot of the back rows, um Jacobson, Sigrin, Baker, those are, that's hard.
00:28:24
Jarrod Dyke
Mm hmm. Those are.
00:28:28
Grumpy Old Prop
um But bringing back the mechanic is huge. um That's right.
00:28:32
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, good experience right there.
00:28:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Harrison Boyle has been here before.
00:28:37
Jarrod Dyke
I'm concerned about that, because that's like, that's what this was.
00:28:39
Grumpy Old Prop
It's not, well, they have to have, yeah.
00:28:42
Jarrod Dyke
That's Ryan Martin's guy, and I get it. But like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know about that one.
00:28:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Um, right.
00:28:49
Jarrod Dyke
And yeah, we still have to we still have probably three of the best centers in the league. So hopefully we can ride them.
00:28:54
Grumpy Old Prop
And Jack Reeves is still, Jack Reeves is no fucking slouch either. So to me, like bastard for, for Reeves, I'll, I'm okay with that trade off.
00:29:03
Jarrod Dyke
Right. Yeah, and you can walk.
00:29:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:29:06
Jarrod Dyke
and We have a we have a solid songs. We don't include fucking dipshit.
00:29:11
Grumpy Old Prop
And I'm interested in seeing.
00:29:11
Jarrod Dyke
We have a solid front row.
00:29:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, I'm interested in seeing some of the new guys that they've, they got like, maybe not the, obviously not the draftees, but, um, some of the other younger players that they've got the, the draftees, I think are interesting too, that they went for, um, to, uh, loose forwards in this, in this drama half.
00:29:18
Jarrod Dyke
Cared.
00:29:20
Jarrod Dyke
That should be interesting.
00:29:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Like that's, uh, that's interesting. Cause they've got, you know, they've got depth there, but it's also good to build there for the future. Like learn from the guys who are some of the best in the league.
00:29:36
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:29:40
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. So hopefully, yeah, hopefully we see.
00:29:45
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I'd say Patras is probably the guy that we need to keep healthy.
00:29:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm. Oh yeah.
00:29:49
Jarrod Dyke
And then, and bellicotta.
00:29:51
Grumpy Old Prop
And, and gp both JP, both JPs.
00:29:53
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, both JP's would be good. Yep, as well. Yep. Yep, I agree. So yeah, ah could New England get to the final again? They could.
00:30:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:30:03
Jarrod Dyke
Um, they're gonna need probably a little bit of luck and they need to get smart and stop playing Kyle.
00:30:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. And, and again, there's no shame in, um, not winning three straight, right? Kansas city.
00:30:16
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, kind of let's get it's it's kinda hard. Um, and and then, and then, um, if you didn't see there's, there's, there's, there's some new rules that we're talking about here.
00:30:32
Jarrod Dyke
And a lot of them have to do with getting rid of scrums, which means Kyle's kind of out of a job anyway. Cause that's supposedly his one skill set because there's a lot of law changes that are leaning towards, um,
00:30:48
Jarrod Dyke
Going towards like, dude, just like if you have, if you turn the ball over on a mall, then they're just going to give a free kick. If you knock the ball into touch and just making you take a line out now, like there's a lot of stuff around just.
00:30:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh,
00:31:00
Grumpy Old Prop
oh so there's no, not even the scrum option.
00:31:02
Jarrod Dyke
They're taking away scrum options for a lot of things. Knock ons are still scrums. And I think, I think like carrying it back over the, over the goal line can still be a scrum, but that's about it. And then if you kick it out the back, it's a scrum way back where you came from, but yeah, that's it. Everything else is.
00:31:28
Grumpy Old Prop
wild.
00:31:28
Jarrod Dyke
Everything else is going to be free kick or, or line out so or, or, or just play. yeah
00:31:34
Grumpy Old Prop
And that's, yeah, I saw people complaining because um they're like, this is just gonna set the US back in in rugby on the world stage because of the players aren't used to scrummaging and it's like, you know, they still scrum, like, they're still gonna scrum, like,
00:31:48
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:31:50
Grumpy Old Prop
10 to 12 times a game like then I don't like this whole like we have to scrum keep strong like more scrums like who the fuck like Look, I'm a front row Although I have played other positions and will will claim to not be a front row when it the the need arises But ah fuck I was a front row um Strums were like my bread and butter.
00:32:11
Grumpy Old Prop
I was I prided myself on being good at them But I didn't want it that doesn't mean I wanted to do them 25 to 30 times a game and
00:32:18
Jarrod Dyke
No, I don't either.
00:32:20
Grumpy Old Prop
It sucks after a bit. It's no fun. And it's, I don't like, you know how much it would piss me off when we had the option of scrum or line out and they feel like scrum and it's like you want to show them the dominance like no, I don't really need to do that.
00:32:23
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:32:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, ah we can have a line out. It's much easier on me and i would have run like yeah like of of course the 15 is gonna say call for a scrum man that's why we don't like them right yeah no
00:32:40
Jarrod Dyke
My neck would, my neck will like you better.
00:32:47
Jarrod Dyke
Shut up, you stupid back. You don't know what you're talking about.
00:32:52
Jarrod Dyke
ah No, no, no. Yeah. I'm wasn't i'm i'm not going to say it's destroying the game by any means whatsoever. Is it going to change cakes I'm getting used to? Yeah, of course it is. It's changes. No shit. But I think where we're trying to keep eyeballs on the game,
00:33:09
Jarrod Dyke
if we can at least try something and see how it works and okay we would bring it back a little bit if it doesn't work out that that that I'm okay with like it's it's not there's almost no harm here so let's just play it out see what happens
00:33:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:33:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. And and right, I am also the guy who believes that knock ons should be allowed to be free kicks if they want the option. I would love to see a tapping like a knock on oh a double knock. Okay, well, okay, we got it. Just go like have at least have the option to do that. Otherwise, say no, you know, if you don't take it and, you know, a set period of time or whatever, it becomes an automatic scrub like, it's not an option. It's just a If you work to get the ball there for a free kick, go for it.
00:33:49
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, well, I'll ah go, well, I'll go one short of um short of that. I do like a referee that will play a quick Scrum advantage.
00:33:49
Grumpy Old Prop
um I think that's as much of an advantage as a scrum.
00:34:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes.
00:34:00
Jarrod Dyke
And just, all right, you have possession, like, and you didn't go backwards, you know, 20 meters, which that sucks.
00:34:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:34:06
Jarrod Dyke
Like if that happens, fucking go back for the Scrum, damn it.
00:34:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:34:09
Jarrod Dyke
But like, you've had possession, you've basically been in the same spot the whole time. Like, just sorry, go fuck yourself.
00:34:14
Jarrod Dyke
Your Scrum's over.
00:34:14
Grumpy Old Prop
it's ah you've Yeah, you've had enough.
00:34:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, you have, like, three phases.
00:34:16
Jarrod Dyke
You've had your chance.
00:34:17
Grumpy Old Prop
after After three phases, if you haven't actually tried to, like, go wide, that's your own goddamn fault. Like, advantage over. If you run three forward crashes and don't go anywhere, no, no, no.
00:34:23
Jarrod Dyke
Let's keep playing, shall we?
00:34:26
Grumpy Old Prop
That's your fault. You're doing stupid shit.
00:34:27
Jarrod Dyke
that That's your fault.
00:34:28
Jarrod Dyke
Absolutely.
00:34:29
Grumpy Old Prop
you You've had every opportunity to take advantage of the advantage, and you said no.
00:34:33
Grumpy Old Prop
So, it's on.
00:34:34
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, and we're done. All right, let's go to round two.
00:34:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, I think I saw that in one of the games this this week, where it was, like, They spread the ball wide and they like they they had the chance to, but they knocked it on. And he's like, okay, we no we'll go back to the original scrum. Yeah, that's fine.
00:34:50
Grumpy Old Prop
You you you tried and it failed. But like, right.
00:34:52
Jarrod Dyke
You did try something, like it didn't work. ah We'll bring it back, but at least you tried something.
00:34:55
Grumpy Old Prop
And it was just, it was just, there are certain refs who'd be like, Oh, you got to try, you know, you really had the chance to break free and you didn't, or, you know, but that's the advantage. And no, give me one play. Either one actual attempt or a couple crashes and you're done.
00:35:06
Jarrod Dyke
Right. Yeah, a couple crashes and then you're done, guys, sorry. Yeah, let's go to that let's go to that yeah those Go to Rome first, Italy, Wales.
00:35:23
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, Gatlin got sacked. Do we need to say a whole lot more about that?
00:35:28
Grumpy Old Prop
And nobody's coming to his defense.
00:35:31
Jarrod Dyke
No, it was, it's, I will, here's the thing. And I've been watching, I haven't watched it all, but I've watched a little bit of the, the full contact from the second season here and.
00:35:43
Jarrod Dyke
Like I'm reminded of how many young players he decided this is their chance to get some game time. I mean, and I know some of them are hurt, but I also know some of them are very available and he didn't bother to pick them.
00:35:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:35:53
Jarrod Dyke
So when you decided to lean on old war horses, he signed his, he signed his own wish right there.
00:35:54
Grumpy Old Prop
right
00:35:58
Jarrod Dyke
That was his pink slip. that They signed right there by picking the likes of Liam Williams, bless him to love a fellow towel.
00:36:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:36:06
Jarrod Dyke
Um, Try to get who else is in this whole this whole shit show walking. I understand that one Do you I mean he didn't he got hurt already so see ya but you know the likes of that Thomas for captain Daffy
00:36:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, I don't know why he's in this team. um Right. Yeah. And then um and like you had to bring on Blair Murray late because um but Liam had to drop and who else came on? um
00:36:31
Grumpy Old Prop
Freddie Thomas because, um yeah, Daffy, well, whatever. um You're not losing anything there.
00:36:38
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:36:39
Grumpy Old Prop
It's it's just like, yeah, you get fired for that. Like, that's, yeah.
00:36:46
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, and i I liked a lot of what I saw of Sam Costa Lola. Sherem said he's not available um for the for this tournament. And yeah, they're living and dying with a couple of guys that they just have to and it sucks.
00:36:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Right, it does.
00:37:00
Jarrod Dyke
You know, yeah, you could pick Gareth and scum, but again, you're only putting yourself into that situation where if I pick this guy and I don't succeed, I'm going to get fired anyway. So you might as well just pick some pups and said, let's do it.
00:37:09
Grumpy Old Prop
And what happened?
00:37:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:37:13
Jarrod Dyke
Let's, let's see what happens and let them play a little bit.
00:37:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:37:15
Jarrod Dyke
And then you might get a little, you might, maybe you didn't, maybe you wouldn't have, but you might get a little bit of leeway from people. If you're willing to pick some young kids again and let them grow a little bit more.
00:37:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Like, I can't imagine people are dying to see Will Rowlands. in Wales.
00:37:29
Jarrod Dyke
No, no.
00:37:30
Grumpy Old Prop
like And that's no disrespect to Will. He's not a bad player. And even when it hammerhead for a little bit, he's actually much more um mobile and and useful in the loose again.
00:37:38
Jarrod Dyke
I think Ross, I think playing at Rossing is helping him there.
00:37:40
Grumpy Old Prop
um um Maybe he was... Yeah. um Yeah, he's definitely rediscovered some old wasps form, which is great to see.
00:37:47
Jarrod Dyke
Mm hmm.
00:37:48
Grumpy Old Prop
But still, it's like...
00:37:52
Grumpy Old Prop
And Daphne, what the... He doesn't do anything. I mean, yeah, he makes tackles and and and takes carries, but like not great tackles.
00:38:01
Jarrod Dyke
I'm about a meter at a time.
00:38:03
Grumpy Old Prop
And yeah, and not, he doesn't go very far. And it's like, but he's doing the work and it's not really work.
00:38:06
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:38:10
Grumpy Old Prop
It's not producing anything. He's just smashing into a wall on offense and the defense.
00:38:11
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:38:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, but you should be, you should be playing Freddie Thomas.
00:38:16
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. And while you should be, I agree.
00:38:19
Grumpy Old Prop
He should be one of your starters because he's actually capable.
00:38:22
Jarrod Dyke
As you're playing really well so for a cluster lately too.
00:38:25
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Um, Jack Morgan has been fantastic, but yeah.
00:38:26
Jarrod Dyke
Um, yeah, he's been one of the better players for them. I'm glad he's their captain again. Um, and while, you know, we, listen, I was not a fan of the way we really won this game, but they didn't need to do more than they did.
00:38:40
Jarrod Dyke
As you, as you, you and I were talking about, um, during the game, but like, yeah, Wales were happy to just cough up penalties left, right and center.
00:38:40
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
00:38:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:38:48
Jarrod Dyke
This could have been a lot worse. Honestly, if Italy decided to frigging nut down and do it, like they were just like, they, they're almost refused to, to go for the line for whatever reason.
00:38:50
Grumpy Old Prop
It could have been a lot worse.
00:38:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:38:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Like Italy should have had 40 points in this game.
00:39:01
Jarrod Dyke
Mm hmm.
00:39:05
Jarrod Dyke
You know, some surprise squeaky bum time later on, but and even still.
00:39:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Like that's, you know, yeah.
00:39:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Like they, they you know, Wales had the chance to tie at the end. Like that's, that shouldn't have been the pick case, but at the same time Italy were just content to kick, kick for posts and whatever. Like that's all they had to do ultimately.
00:39:19
Grumpy Old Prop
And they were right. That's all they had to do. So fire the coach.
00:39:23
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and it was, yeah, that's exactly it. And it, it, as soon as that penalty trial went down, it was like, Italy's got to bang this deep and make whales play from all the way back there.
00:39:37
Jarrod Dyke
And if they're smart, they're not going to go into rucks unless they absolutely have to.
00:39:37
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:39:41
Jarrod Dyke
They're going to be, they're going to stay on sides. And they did exactly that until Zulani finally saw a chance and said mine and snapped it off of them. So, uh, yeah, listen, good, good on the Azuri, Kisada, well done.
00:39:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:39:53
Jarrod Dyke
This is, you know, another point in there. in their column for them and to say, yeah, we are not the, you know, we're not the assholes of this whole thing anymore. You guys are. So welcome.
00:40:05
Jarrod Dyke
to Welcome to reality. Well, I don't see, unfortunately, like just because gas is gone, I don't see anything getting any better.
00:40:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:40:14
Jarrod Dyke
Sorry. they did it They did it at the right time, because they have a week here where they can, and this is not gonna be the permanent answer, the guy that they appointed.
00:40:17
Grumpy Old Prop
No, right.
00:40:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Nope.
00:40:24
Jarrod Dyke
He's going back to his club after this tournament. He's already made that very clear. He signed in to deal with them, the whole shebang. um But at least they're giving him two full weeks to try and work something out here.
00:40:38
Jarrod Dyke
And then, and then, then, we have Le Crunch.
00:40:45
Grumpy Old Prop
This was honestly a surprise classic game.
00:40:49
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. I mean, I did not have Elliot daily scoring the winning try on my bingo board. I can tell you that much right now.
00:40:54
Grumpy Old Prop
On the best part is it's a French move.
00:40:58
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:40:59
Grumpy Old Prop
That's like, that's a move that they they've used. And um thanks. I think it was a squidge. I learned it from. um But that was a um a maneuver. They use. What was it off a lineup?
00:41:10
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. It was offline.
00:41:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. And, uh, yeah, England used it against them and just carved him up with it. And daily, all he literally just could have, he walked in. I mean, he, he's got tackled at the end, but I mean, yeah, he's not that.
00:41:19
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, he just fell over the line, basically.
00:41:25
Jarrod Dyke
He's no longer that fleet of foot anymore.
00:41:25
Grumpy Old Prop
A faster person would not have, would not have had any, anybody touching them.
00:41:30
Grumpy Old Prop
like Maybe somebody that they should have had in there, not, not Elliot Daly would have, would have not been touched on his way through, but there you go.
00:41:30
Jarrod Dyke
No. No, no. Right. Yeah. Well, well.
00:41:45
Jarrod Dyke
England did a lot of good things. I'm still not overly impressed with the with their manner of play.
00:41:51
Jarrod Dyke
At the same time, like the French are just gonna be left wondering in so many ways left wondering why twofold, a twofold and in my brain, at least one, they left at least three tries on the board that they just didn't quite go to hand.
00:41:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:42:02
Grumpy Old Prop
At least. Right.
00:42:04
Jarrod Dyke
um And then the the number of times they were going for post might not get the like, guys, you're still away from home. I know you're good team and you you might be a better team in this than this England team. But if you continue to go for threes, you are gonna pay for it.
00:42:17
Jarrod Dyke
And sure enough, they did.
00:42:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Yeah. And in England, to their credit, like, you know, we've we were talking about Alex Mitchell has had a like, a really poor Six Nations and this game was was honestly no different, I think. And I don't think that's his fault. Exactly. I think that there's there's multiple messages being sent. Like, I feel like the scrummers are being told kick it whenever, you you know, whenever you get a chance to.
00:42:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, and everyone, like a lot of the other backs are like, no, we're going to run it. It like, Marcus Smith gets a great turnover. Cause, um, again, off of one of those, I think it was Billy Barry, uh, or Mo Fauna, one of those two, like knocked it on. Smith picks it up and immediately the whole left side is, is just open. And that's for the attack. And so he does the smart thing, gets it to his nine.
00:43:06
Grumpy Old Prop
who is inside, then inside the 22 and says, Oh, I'm inside the 22. I'm just going to kick the touch. Um, and fortunately the referee said, okay, well there's no advantage gained. So we're going to go to the scrum.
00:43:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Otherwise, you know, ah most drafts would be like, you kicked it. You're like, you dumbass. So like you, you were never.
00:43:21
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, absolutely.
00:43:25
Grumpy Old Prop
you were always inside your like, you're always brought back in like, what are you thinking? Like, why are you doing this? And even his own team, it should be like, yeah, dude, we had the whole left side. Why did we were scored a try from our own 22, if you just kept ball in hand.
00:43:38
Jarrod Dyke
yeah
00:43:39
Grumpy Old Prop
um And no player wants to do that.
00:43:41
Grumpy Old Prop
No player says, you know what, I just want to kick the ball away.
00:43:44
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah No At least one of them was I'm sure
00:43:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, if you tell me you have people outside, you scream and like, we got it, it's on, it's on, it's on. And I'm sure they were. Like nobody wants to do that, right? So it's it's coaching and I don't like that.
00:43:57
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, to to your point about it being coaching, there's one there was one moment, and this might be just me seeing things, so I'm not gonna totally say it's definite, but there was a moment where Marcus got the ball on the right, and they were going left to right as we were watching on the TV.
00:44:14
Jarrod Dyke
And there was definite space. he knew he I think he had a proper, ah or maybe Miapha, who was not very quick um to pick on, and definite space otherwise.
00:44:24
Jarrod Dyke
And he almost and he hesitated. And it wasn't like his usual little step hesitate. He just slowed down and thought about it.
00:44:31
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:44:31
Jarrod Dyke
Like, hmm. So it tells me something is in his brain that says, don't do this.
00:44:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:44:37
Jarrod Dyke
So that is that is a little bit of concerning. Now, in the positives, Finn Smith, like first 10 minutes, yeah, as they pointed out in the broadcast, a little shaky.
00:44:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:44:49
Jarrod Dyke
After that, masterful, absolutely masterful in running that attack.
00:44:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, I mean, he I like so we we would talk about um Damien McKenzie being a fantastic 15, but not an international 10 or even a club level 10.
00:45:03
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm. Great.
00:45:10
Grumpy Old Prop
Marcus Smith is both an international level 10 and an international level 15. And so to have someone like Finn Smith who can come on and pilot the attack like that and then make Marcus Smith, not the first receiver, but the second receiver so he can be free to do all those Like he doesn't have to worry about the distribution.
00:45:30
Grumpy Old Prop
He just reads what's in front of him and goes. And that's really what he's best at when he gets that opportunity.
00:45:34
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:45:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, you know, there's, there's a lot to like about the structure of this line out and the way they're the lineup and the way they executed. Um, with the exception, of course, of the line out, um, I got ahead of myself because Luke Cowendiki, imagine if, imagine if they had a real fucking hooker for the start of this game.
00:45:48
Jarrod Dyke
All those people,
00:45:54
Grumpy Old Prop
How many line outs did they lose?
00:45:56
Jarrod Dyke
He bottled so many.
00:45:58
Jarrod Dyke
All the people that were saying that Cowan Dickey is better than Theo Dan or Jamie George, back the fuck into your box, please.
00:45:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, you know,
00:46:05
Jarrod Dyke
Get the fuck out of here. I'm not having any of it.
00:46:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Luke, how Dickie is.
00:46:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, he's he's more literally he's he's one of the worst starting hookers in the pram. Not not anywhere near the best. I don't know why he's on this team at all. And that that performance on.
00:46:17
Jarrod Dyke
i would i i We talked about who I would have picked over him anyway. I would have taken Augray, so that's just me.
00:46:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Yeah, absolutely. I've taken Thacker. I fucking anybody um and they're
00:46:28
Jarrod Dyke
I don't want to take Augur because of his age.
00:46:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Fair, I just like Thacker.
00:46:30
Jarrod Dyke
He's a little younger than Thacker. I do too. I do too. But unfortunately I think his time for England's gone.
00:46:36
Jarrod Dyke
um they did They do have Langdon. Maybe they'll give him a shot.
00:46:36
Grumpy Old Prop
I probably, that's true too.
00:46:39
Grumpy Old Prop
I think I'm gonna rock this. um But at the same time, I also wanna talk about, the um hot we we talk a lot of shit about Tom Curry.
00:46:51
Grumpy Old Prop
um I do wanna point out that a certain someone on this podcast and potentially someones I've talked about Tom Curry being oh ah certainly international worthy, six.
00:47:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Not a seven, not an eight, but but six, yes.
00:47:10
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:47:11
Grumpy Old Prop
um That was the best performance I've seen of Tom Curry in his international career, and it came at six. I just wanna point that out and put that out there.
00:47:18
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:47:21
Jarrod Dyke
Tom Welles still would've scored the ball and cheeks popped to him, though.
00:47:24
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh yeah, I almost would've scored on that, planner I don't know, I would've scored like a real like,
00:47:28
Jarrod Dyke
Not an attacking bone in this man's body, not a single one.
00:47:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Not even a little bit.
00:47:31
Jarrod Dyke
Anybody that says otherwise, you are not watching the same game. Like, get out of here.
00:47:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Right. Just for the same reason, like George Martin, I thought he played a pretty damn good game, a solid game. But I do too.
00:47:41
Jarrod Dyke
I like George Martin a lot. I really do.
00:47:44
Grumpy Old Prop
But when Chesham came on, it, um, he, and he was, he is, he is.
00:47:46
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, he's otherworldly sometimes. He's a nice, he's a nice sub second row. He really is.
00:47:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, and I, but that also, to that point, like Martin did his job very well. He's just not, again, just like with Curry, Martin has very, Martin actually might have a slightly more attacking bone in his body than than Curry, but it's, yeah, but it's marginal and and inconsistent.
00:48:06
Jarrod Dyke
Sometimes he does that thing.
00:48:13
Grumpy Old Prop
But like, and to be fair, Chasm is inconsistent too, but he's inconsistent in the way that when he came up, like he was perfect in, in you know, coming on right at that the, through through you know, three quarter mark.
00:48:26
Grumpy Old Prop
just to finish out the game and just be a beast take and, you know, talk about Daffa Jenkins just taking carries. Look at the difference between the carries that that Jenkins takes and the ones that Chasm takes because Chasm goes to, you know, he doesn't run at the trunks.
00:48:40
Grumpy Old Prop
He runs at the branches and he gets some solid meters every time he touches it and provides clean ball every time he touches it.
00:48:44
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:48:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Like that's for a lock. Yes, please.
00:48:50
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:48:51
Grumpy Old Prop
And thank you. Um,
00:48:53
Jarrod Dyke
And we see the, and we'll talk about again in the next match, but six to split bytes again, like, you know, they had to put DuPont at 10.
00:48:57
Grumpy Old Prop
It does. It really does.
00:49:04
Jarrod Dyke
Like, and while he's a wonderful player and has done that role for his club to lose, that's at an international level, that is not his position and he doesn't do it very often. So it did not help them whatsoever.
00:49:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:49:16
Jarrod Dyke
They're, they're, they're a better team with him at nine and. pretty much anybody else at 10. They could have probably put on another outside back and stuck Ramos at 10 and they would have been better off.
00:49:25
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Right.
00:49:26
Jarrod Dyke
you know But they didn't, they they didn't have another one. So yeah, beats me. I think John Chase bit the bit on that one for sure.
00:49:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, I agree.
00:49:37
Jarrod Dyke
And speaking of the next match, let's go up to Murray Field.
00:49:42
Jarrod Dyke
Well, I mean, let's start where the dink game kind of took a turn and that was the clash between Graham and Finn and just number one, very scary, very scary.
00:49:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Without game. Yeah. and And especially for Graham, who'd like literally had just been talking about coming back from a serious head injury, like. Oh, not good.
00:50:02
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, these were his first two Six Nations games for a little bit because he keeps missing time, sadly.
00:50:07
Grumpy Old Prop
and Yeah, um and Finn that's that's just Yeah, you're boned I mean luckily luckily you have Tom Jordan who could slide in and I thought he played pretty damn well um Given the fact that he's going up against Ireland um Like it's it's not a game really I
00:50:28
Jarrod Dyke
Hmm. This green wave here.
00:50:36
Jarrod Dyke
It was a tough one. It was tough one for him to get thrown into that situation for, and yeah, yeah, he's played a little bit 10 in a scholarship before, but you know, let's be honest, the competition wasn't the same.
00:50:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Mm hmm.
00:50:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. And honestly, a 14 point game is incredibly respectable given the like the imbalance there. it's It's not, you know, this wasn't it this should not have been and it really didn't feel like a competitive game after that.
00:51:00
Jarrod Dyke
Mm hmm.
00:51:00
Grumpy Old Prop
So and that's just this that's what happens when you lose one of the best tens in the world and one of the best wings in the world in in a single play.
00:51:08
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:51:09
Grumpy Old Prop
It doesn't matter what your split that you have on your bench is. It's hard to overcome that.
00:51:13
Jarrod Dyke
It is, it is.
00:51:14
Jarrod Dyke
And I feel like because it happens. Yeah.
00:51:15
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, it is a lot harder when it's a six two and now you have no, and it's 21 minutes in and you have no backs ups whatsoever.
00:51:19
Jarrod Dyke
No backs up. And yeah, and you're using, you know, while Toby has um done a little bit on the wing, you know, would have been more helpful to have him play, play nine and then have a, you know, one of your many very talented wings, um, as a sub on the, on the bench instead, or, you know, one of your other centers that can move around or something.
00:51:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:51:40
Grumpy Old Prop
One scanner or something. Yeah.
00:51:42
Jarrod Dyke
And I know McDowell was the other one that came in, but still like you had other options and you just decided to be a hammerhead and go.
00:51:48
Jarrod Dyke
you know, pound it through and say Sam, Sam Skinner didn't need to be in this game.
00:51:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:51:52
Jarrod Dyke
So let's be honest with that. So you could have stuck with Brown and Richie as your, as your back five, as it were, um, forward subs and rolled in there with.
00:51:52
Grumpy Old Prop
No, he really didn't.
00:52:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Which I thought worked. I thought Jack Dempsey had a pretty like, um, he he, he, he had a high compete level. He really was like, right.
00:52:11
Jarrod Dyke
He's still the, he's probably still their best number eight. It's still a problem position for them, I think, but he's probably still the best number eight.
00:52:15
Grumpy Old Prop
It's not, he's not the, yeah. But then to, to, to give him 60 solid minutes the way they did and then be like, okay, you're you're not, you're not ready to like, yeah, he's not there. I mean, even.
00:52:29
Grumpy Old Prop
Matt Fagerson is it yes by the time Dempsey was, it came off, Fagerson was the better loose forward, which, you know, that's the problem.
00:52:31
Jarrod Dyke
Bloop. Bloop.
00:52:41
Jarrod Dyke
that that That is the problem in itself.
00:52:43
Jarrod Dyke
That that right there is a problem.
00:52:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:52:45
Grumpy Old Prop
So yeah, when, when like, and but it may figure cause Fagerson can keep his level of suck constant like for 80 minutes.
00:52:56
Grumpy Old Prop
I will grant him that. Um, but Dempsey could not keep his level of, of good up for much more than like 50 or so.
00:53:04
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:53:05
Grumpy Old Prop
So he's got to fix that, but at the same time, there's time for that. And then to be able to bring on Jamie Ritchie, that actually that, of that I thought it worked really well, but yeah, no, we didn't need to see if Sam Skinner.
00:53:16
Jarrod Dyke
Um, we, yeah, we do need to give mention to the, the Duhan try that McDowell put up, uh, put the chicken wing in for.
00:53:25
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. That, um,
00:53:28
Jarrod Dyke
Can I have an order of six of those chicken wings, please?
00:53:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, please that was fucking spicy and delicious clean
00:53:36
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, no, that was good. ah yeah And I was like, Oh, did you just feed up when he, when I went down and the angle showed exactly what I was hoping it would, which was it.
00:53:47
Jarrod Dyke
He did. He did. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. You bleeding. All right.
00:53:54
Grumpy Old Prop
here
00:53:55
Jarrod Dyke
Let's go do some superlatives here. um Those that outdid themselves on the weekend.
00:54:05
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, you know, well, just from the match you're talking about, I thought Tom Jordan um in a, in a tough situation.
00:54:09
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Okay. Good job.
00:54:13
Grumpy Old Prop
um Yeah. Put on a real good fight.
00:54:16
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Uh, I'm going to give, um, I'm going to give towns in the shout for sitting fed.
00:54:25
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes. That, that was excellent too. That's, that's a tough decision to make when your, your, your medical staff is saying, yeah, he's, he's cleared.
00:54:27
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, it is.
00:54:32
Grumpy Old Prop
And you're like, no, he's not right.
00:54:35
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. When you, when you figure out later on, like something's up here.
00:54:38
Jarrod Dyke
I'm not into that.
00:54:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, it's, it's the, you know, when, in when in doubt, sit them out.
00:54:42
Grumpy Old Prop
That's, we need to see that at the professional level and the international level.
00:54:46
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, and it sets that's a good example.
00:54:48
Grumpy Old Prop
It does.
00:54:48
Jarrod Dyke
It sets a good example.
00:54:52
Grumpy Old Prop
um Who else out there themselves? Again, Tom Curry.
00:54:56
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, gotta call it where it's where it is, you know?
00:54:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep, that's that. Yes.
00:55:01
Jarrod Dyke
um um Obviously we talked about Jinx coming on, doing well.
00:55:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:55:05
Jarrod Dyke
um Shifting to the PWR for a second. um Alona owns the Chiefs right now. She's only played them twice, but she owns them. She has four tries and two games against them.
00:55:16
Grumpy Old Prop
That's, that's something they might want to to deal with.
00:55:18
Jarrod Dyke
Talk about being, talk about being my hero.
00:55:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:55:21
Jarrod Dyke
um
00:55:24
Grumpy Old Prop
And there were some fun tries too. You can't even tell she broke her nose. Like I was, I like saw pictures of it and I'm like, she looks fine. Like, wow, that was like, but two weeks ago, shit.
00:55:36
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. I mean, they did a good, they did a good job sorting that out.
00:55:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, they did. better Better than any rugby player I have ever seen let's put it that way Right Yeah, no too don't ah yeah I guess they they they don't let them yeah, they don't let them do that at that level so help
00:55:41
Jarrod Dyke
Sort of dude.
00:55:44
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Oh, I know. I've seen some bad nose breaks and like decided to reset it themselves. It's like, no, no, no, don't do that. Oh, nevermind.
00:55:56
Jarrod Dyke
No, that they're going to let someone else set it for them. That's which is probably the best. Um, Yeah, Amber Reed, they talked about it on the weekend as well. She had a great game. Shout it just a little bit.
00:56:15
Grumpy Old Prop
um I mean, I'd say jolly bear.
00:56:20
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, wasn't good.
00:56:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Had a poop. um Actually, a lot of honestly, a lot of that French team kind of had a poop like Buddha, I thought was a ghost.
00:56:23
Jarrod Dyke
Wasn't good.
00:56:30
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, Ruma, same thing.
00:56:31
Grumpy Old Prop
um Yeah.
00:56:33
Jarrod Dyke
That's not his best position. I think they're a little bit desperate for locks right now, and I know he's a big boy, but that's not his best position.
00:56:41
Jarrod Dyke
He's he's ah he's ah he's a very well-built back rower. he's not ah He's not a second rower. Mayafu is doing his job and doing everything he can in that second row, but Ramat's not helping him that much.
00:56:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:56:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:56:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:56:52
Jarrod Dyke
so um I mean, I'm sorry to say it, but yeah.
00:56:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:57:01
Jarrod Dyke
no Sad. Got TA same thing. Definitely spitted a little bit with his some of his choices and decisions there.
00:57:08
Grumpy Old Prop
I feel like didn't Tommy, Tommy Allen spit a little bit too, he because he he missed quite a few of those kicks, if I'm not mistaken.
00:57:13
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, you missed at least two, which is, and some of them are ones you should probably hit, to be honest.
00:57:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. And they're the ones you should probably hit and you're, you're calling, you're you're calling too many of them. No, not helpful.
00:57:24
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:57:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Go to the corner.
00:57:26
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:57:27
Grumpy Old Prop
I can go for a try at some point. Jesus.
00:57:28
Jarrod Dyke
Please.
00:57:29
Grumpy Old Prop
<unk>ing christ
00:57:30
Jarrod Dyke
Um. Any standout refs for you this week?
00:57:33
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
00:57:38
Grumpy Old Prop
no no
00:57:40
Jarrod Dyke
None for me. None for me.
00:57:43
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, it wasn't like, I, yeah, I wasn't like particularly like impressed. Yeah. I just wasn't impressed with any of them. None of them really, uh, no, I can't say none of them pissed me off.
00:57:55
Grumpy Old Prop
They pissed me off.
00:57:56
Jarrod Dyke
There's a few that piss me off, so that's okay.
00:57:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Well, let's just, let's just not, that's not what we do here.
00:57:59
Jarrod Dyke
Um, Yeah.
00:58:04
Jarrod Dyke
Young player, young player to give a shout to.
00:58:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Finn. Finn.
00:58:07
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, absolutely. Finn Smith. Well done, sir. um Coach.
00:58:18
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, it's got to be Borthwick. He's he's like, yes, we there's still there's still a couple of issues with his lineups.
00:58:22
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:58:27
Grumpy Old Prop
um I did.
00:58:29
Jarrod Dyke
his Style.
00:58:30
Grumpy Old Prop
And but the thing is, that was much more of an attacking style. There's still too many you know still too many, like, pointless kicks, kicks to nothing. But Like you have, and I think that's again, how what they're doing with the nine.
00:58:43
Grumpy Old Prop
It's always from Alex Mitchell, just a i'm goingnna just box kick now for for no apparent reason. um And slate, slatede I think there's so much better you can do than than Henry Slade.
00:58:48
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:58:55
Jarrod Dyke
i The one thing he's supposed to be good at, he totally cocked it up this weekend, which is that which is those touch kicks.
00:58:55
Grumpy Old Prop
So much better.
00:58:56
Grumpy Old Prop
So you're right.
00:59:01
Jarrod Dyke
He sounds like, nope, you missed that.
00:59:02
Grumpy Old Prop
No. So so it's like if if you got a real center in there. That's really, that to me, that's the only and and the, you know, I will say the the other Curry, I don't think there was any need for that.
00:59:14
Grumpy Old Prop
You bring on Cunningham South rather than Ben Curry in that spot, I would think.
00:59:17
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:59:18
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:59:19
Jarrod Dyke
I need a twin that can do the exact same thing as the guy that's already on the field.
00:59:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:59:22
Jarrod Dyke
No, you do not.
00:59:22
Grumpy Old Prop
and The guy who's crushing it at six. No, get Willis out there. Like, and if you want to, yeah, in that case, put, I mean, I'd rather have Tom Curry at seven than Ben, Ben Curry at six.
00:59:35
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:59:36
Grumpy Old Prop
With Tom Curry, it's like it's no put I'd rather put Tom Curry at seven and Chandler Cunningham South at six, then then bring Ben Kerry on to that at all.
00:59:43
Jarrod Dyke
right
00:59:46
Grumpy Old Prop
But it it worked out OK. So that's the other thing. The things he did work. So there you go.
00:59:49
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:59:52
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:59:53
Grumpy Old Prop
And against it, fucking talented team.
00:59:57
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, yeah. And I mean, there's, don't question it. There's still problems missing. There's still some guys missing from this French team that would make an impact, but, but there's still a lot of guys out there that are very good.
01:00:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:00:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, and they, there was, yeah, there was just, um, and there was significant bed shittery from, um, from France, but like, you know, some of that was, you know, some of that was they they had a pretty dead defense against them was not the worst.
01:00:16
Jarrod Dyke
Some of the better players. Yep. Great.
01:00:26
Grumpy Old Prop
They've actually, they did improve some of their exterior defense, but not enough.
01:00:26
Jarrod Dyke
Nope. No.
01:00:31
Grumpy Old Prop
Enough to have them see ghosts and and knock it on, which I guess is enough to win in that.
01:00:36
Jarrod Dyke
Sometimes it does. Sometimes it does. um Yeah, I'll i'll give a quick shout out to Dave Ward, which is something I never thought I'd ever do in my life.
01:00:47
Jarrod Dyke
um But here we are. Bristol are are in a pretty good position for themselves to make this playoff on so good for them um Big win over Exeter and that makeup came there ah Try the week That was good, that was really good
01:00:47
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
01:01:07
Grumpy Old Prop
ah the I like the Capoteo try. That was fun. And it was you know fairly early on in the week, but um yeah, because although again, the daily try is kind of up there too.
01:01:19
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I went with the B.I.B. had a try off the just completely broken shit house, right?
01:01:27
Jarrod Dyke
Turned into something good.
01:01:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, that was all right too.
01:01:28
Grumpy Old Prop
No, yeah.
01:01:30
Jarrod Dyke
That was good. and We already talked about the do-ha-and-try. that That deserves a mention as well.
01:01:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
01:01:36
Jarrod Dyke
Player of the week.
01:01:42
Grumpy Old Prop
I think I'm sticking with Finn Smith on this one, just because of the the moment that he was in and and the way he responded.
01:01:43
Jarrod Dyke
Okay. Mm-hmm.
01:01:48
Grumpy Old Prop
like Yeah, really, really enjoyed the the him the most um for for you know the relative like what for but for expectations and and and what happened.
01:01:51
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Worthy.
01:01:59
Grumpy Old Prop
He had the the highest ah differentiator there.
01:02:04
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Worthy. Um, I went with a guy that also had to respond in the situation he was in and that's, that was pentagas. You know, everyone was calling for Crowley to take this 10 shirt off of him and he put on a pretty master performance. Yes. We had that. We talked about everything that happened with.
01:02:20
Jarrod Dyke
the injuries and such, but he played what was in front of him.
01:02:22
Grumpy Old Prop
We We didn't talk about that 25 meter pass Fuck yeah, I mean Ash had to do so much work after
01:02:23
Jarrod Dyke
and He played really well with what was in front of him. So, Oh, I know fricking was that the one that went to Nash? Yep.
01:02:34
Grumpy Old Prop
ah
01:02:36
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, that is the difference that a really good pass can make, make their kids so work on that work on those passes.
01:02:41
Grumpy Old Prop
I saw that that was the longest that was also the longest pass of um this at least this round of Six Nations.
01:02:47
Jarrod Dyke
Wild, wild stuff.
01:02:49
Grumpy Old Prop
and And it was like, right on the money. You know, right, you know, Nash had all the you know, no pressure whatsoever. So it made it very easy. But it's like, it's still a hard pass to make the pass that yeah, the cat that everything after that is easy, but only if you make that pass.
01:03:06
Jarrod Dyke
yeah ah Dicks of the week, dick of the week.
01:03:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, I, almost had to give it to to Dino lamb.
01:03:19
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, almost crossed on that.
01:03:20
Grumpy Old Prop
You just, you just had a card too.
01:03:24
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm, which was improperly awarded, it was not Riccioni, it was whoever the fucking loose head, whoever the loose head was or whatever it is, yeah, I don't know who it was, but yeah, it wasn't Richie, it was somebody else.
01:03:25
Grumpy Old Prop
And you're, you're, it was Lucchesi Lucchesi. Yeah. Yeah.
01:03:36
Grumpy Old Prop
No, it was the chess. I have it. ah I have it open. um They came on at the same time and it was the 77th minute.
01:03:38
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
01:03:42
Grumpy Old Prop
So. That was the Jesse. um
01:03:45
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, gave it to Ritchie, and they gave it to Ritchie though, idiots.
01:03:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
01:03:49
Jarrod Dyke
It wasn't, I swear I was, yeah, now I'm gonna do that one. I still think James Delmon belongs nowhere near international Robia. He's absolutely dog shit. This wasn't a hard match for him to referee, but still there was a lot that he just like totally said, I don't know, I guess. It's like, oh, come on, dude, that can't be, that can't be what's going on in an international match as a fucking international test referee. Like, come on, dude, this is ridiculous.
01:04:18
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, the standards getting ridiculous and I'm not, we're not going to get into it today because that'll be a longer conversation, but all right, sir. We have your business to attend to.
01:04:30
Jarrod Dyke
We got pick them for the first time in super rugby for 2025.
01:04:32
Grumpy Old Prop
We do.
01:04:38
Jarrod Dyke
Starting off with a fucking banger crusaders and hurricanes.
01:04:46
Grumpy Old Prop
It's in Christchurch, right?
01:04:48
Jarrod Dyke
Yes.
01:04:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:04:50
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. No, I, I listened to him.
01:04:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:04:53
Jarrod Dyke
Hurricanes have definitely fallen off a little bit there. There's still some good players and I hope camera guard becomes the leader that he needs to be in order for us to do good things this year.
01:04:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
01:05:01
Jarrod Dyke
But, but, but I think it'll be the crusaders that win.
01:05:06
Grumpy Old Prop
who yeah It's going to, I think if anything, the canes are going to have And they could be way wrong here because i I think I've predicted stuff like this before. And and look, sometimes it's
Challenges in Rugby Teams
01:05:17
Grumpy Old Prop
true.
01:05:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Sometimes it's not. um I'm the one who kind of leans towards it being true.
01:05:21
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
01:05:22
Grumpy Old Prop
When you lose someone is that like one of your best players, it's hard to figure out how to play without them because like there's so many times you're just like, oh, already he's got that.
01:05:32
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
01:05:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Or it's like, we know we want to get into already here. I don't really want it. But no, no, no, it's it's your turn now because he's not there. Like there's a little bit of of sorting out how to play without him.
01:05:39
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
01:05:42
Grumpy Old Prop
And that that's, but you know, one of the only reasons I think crusaders are still reloading. I think they they obviously finished the year better than they started it. So.
01:05:50
Jarrod Dyke
They did. They did. They started to rattle off a couple of wins.
01:05:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, so I think. I think they're still they' building back to what they need to be that they don't lose in their coaches is is huge. ah They're sort of adjusting to a new way of doing things and they have enough talent.
01:06:01
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm. Yep.
01:06:05
Grumpy Old Prop
So I'm going to go with crusaders for no, no disrespect to your, your guys.
01:06:07
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. No, no, no.
01:06:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Obviously ties
01:06:10
Jarrod Dyke
None whatsoever. Tonnes Islanders.
01:06:14
Grumpy Old Prop
just cause I don't trust the Highlanders at all.
01:06:16
Jarrod Dyke
Right. Same with you on that one. Drew and Brumby's. This is in, this is in Fiji.
01:06:22
Grumpy Old Prop
It is, and I'm going to go with the drill.
01:06:25
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. Same. They don't lose very often there. Their problem is going to be figuring out what they, how they find wins on the road. That'd be the biggest problem. ah Blue's chiefs. Yep.
01:06:38
Jarrod Dyke
And then force and Moana.
01:06:41
Grumpy Old Prop
I good think we go with Moana here Yeah, it might be the longest is it the longest trip in um
01:06:44
Jarrod Dyke
Same. Yep. Same. I need to see it from the forest there. So does that as a long trip, by the way, even if, you know, Moana is still based in New Zealand right now. Like that's a long fucking trip, but now, uh, Jua over the to there is the longest.
01:07:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay.
01:07:02
Jarrod Dyke
Because they're coming from very far east to pretty far west.
01:07:08
Jarrod Dyke
So that'd be a bitch, but yeah, nope. I, yeah, more. I have plenty of time to get there. Obviously you already, it's going to make a huge difference to them. I think. And he'll, he'll carry them over. He'll drag them over the line for this first one. I have a feeling.
Podcast Wrap-up
01:07:22
Jarrod Dyke
All right, friends, sir that's going to do it for us on the rugby pods, pods. We'll catch you over on the fancy corner. If you're coming over there, awesome. we'll We'll see you there. If not enjoy the weekend of opening super rugby and we'll catch you guys later.
01:07:35
Jarrod Dyke
Have a good one. Everyone.
01:07:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Later.
01:07:37
Jarrod Dyke
Cheers.