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Jarrod Dyke: Hey everybody, welcome back to the Fancy Rugby Yanks Podcast. My name is Jared Dyke.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm Ben Glauser.
Jarrod Dyke: It's a return after another week of hiatus. It seems to be our schedule these days.
Grumpy Old Prop: You know, there was a time i was thinking about it today. um There was a time when I would feel really guilty if I'd missed even one rugby match and we were like before we potted. And now I'm at the point where I'm like, like i don't even feel guilty if we miss a week because it's like we have there's so much more to do right now.
Jarrod Dyke: Oh, I am way beyond that.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. ah You know, having these, I mean, cause, oh yeah, you were, that's right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like fly for a wedding and things like
Jarrod Dyke: that you you were You were doubled down. Jesus.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, no, just like having the kids at the stage that are at is just, they're so fucking dependent on us. So it's like, well, we got us, we don't have a choice.
Jarrod Dyke: This where we are, you know?
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: So, so be it.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah And I do not.
Jarrod Dyke: Such is life.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. It's like I have so many bigger things to do and worry about.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, so, um yeah, no, i I know for a fact i there's one match I just didn't bother but watching. I'm sure you can guess which one it was. um
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes, i can I can absolutely guess because I think I spoiled it for you and basically told you not to watch it.
Jarrod Dyke: helpful I mean, I don't know that's much of a spoiler.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, that's true.
Jarrod Dyke: I'm not convinced that's a spoiler, so I'm not i'm okay with it. um Anywho, I have a beer and I want to drink it. Make
Grumpy Old Prop: Go for it. I do not have beer, although I want to drink it.
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Jarrod Dyke: Okay. um Make sure that you are buying a coffee or beer for our good friend, George, the fancy rugby geek. He's got another, help he's going have a big week because obviously those of you who are playing champions cup fantasy, that's, know, we're down the quarterfinals. So it's, you know, you got some decisions to make and plus he's running all the great things for the six nations game for the, for the women.
Jarrod Dyke: And you know, plus super rugby. Yeah. So, but he's busy. Buy him a beer.
Grumpy Old Prop: The man... Yeah, it doesn't stop.
Jarrod Dyke: No, man, was no bounds.
Jarrod Dyke: Uh, make sure yeah, there we go. That's the one. Um, no, I should almost skipped ahead. Uh, there is no scrimmation here on this podcast, nor should there be in sports or in life.
Grumpy Old Prop: We're almost there. There you go.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, we were talking about before we're spoiled for choice, but we're going another direction. Hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: So... um so we there's no shortage of bad news. So I'm going to shift over to some good news. um So after a powerful pushback from players, coaches, and advocates, um and NCR, National Collegiate Rugby, the the USA Rugby kind of alternative um conference, has reversed course and will now follow the 2015 IOC transgender policy issued but are used by USA Rugby.
Jarrod Dyke: I can appreciate that.
Jarrod Dyke: Yes.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep, I did see this.
Grumpy Old Prop: So waivers are again being processed. I was talking about this with my wife too, and she said that like, the plan, they were just not going to act on waivers. So like, Oh, thank you. Well, you can submit your waivers, but we're just not going to do anything with them. And now they're like, Oh, okay. We'll, we'll act on them.
Grumpy Old Prop: And, um,
Jarrod Dyke: You're going to have a pile of paperwork that stacks up? That sounds like a good idea.
Grumpy Old Prop: right. Well, the whole thing is that it's like, they weren't going to, they weren't going to reject anyone, but they just weren't going to accept it.
Jarrod Dyke: Surely, though.
Grumpy Old Prop: And it's like, that's, but that's still discriminant. That's still right.
Jarrod Dyke: It's the same as ra rejecting someone.
Grumpy Old Prop: Exactly.
Jarrod Dyke: Dipshits.
Grumpy Old Prop: But it's not like, but it's, but that it's not the same because we didn't reject it. You see, um,
Jarrod Dyke: ah ah You think you're clever, you bunch of assholes.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Yeah. Fuck you guys.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, okay, dude.
Grumpy Old Prop: um And it was funny because i was I was I had. um And I was talking with um a friend of yours to Chris Muddy, who's who's one of the assistant coaches at BU.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: And um you're talking about it and it's like, you know, these people who aren't involved, like rugby is such a different sport anyway. um Like that's the thing that people, oh, we don't want to, ah man it's like, shut up.
Grumpy Old Prop: First off, that's not how it works. um There's actually like procedures to follow and whatnot. Like they're they're very well into their transition before they're even allowed to step on a pitch. And it's not, it's very, for for some of us who have known people have transitioned,
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, but that's the thing. They don't know anybody and they just stay away from it and they they so they they fear it. um But I was talking to Chris and I was like, you know, the only time I've really had an issue is um with a player in one of the, the um who I used to but coach against um when I was coaching Boston women um for for Raleigh, who had fully transitioned, basically, well, at least it seemed like fully transitioned to a man, used he, him pronouns, walked around without a shirt on, because he was like, you know, yup, and was ripped.
Jarrod Dyke: had the top Had the top surgery. Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: So yeah, good on you. Fuck, if I had those arms, yeah, well, when I did have those arms, like yeah, I would walk around shirtless. um And it's like, that person should not be playing women's rugby. Like every, like that's the way that's to me the way, it like, but the rules that they want to set, that's what would have to happen. And I'm like, it was never safe playing against Sean.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like never. Oh, like once, once he really transitioned, like there was definitely a period where it was like, okay, like, he's getting a little bigger or he was always a big like and and like very strong woman and then transition to a man's like that even elevated it like that much more testosterone.
Jarrod Dyke: The big person. Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: It was it was yeah, that's problematic. And because like, yeah, like that's the only thing like. you know, we talk about Ilona Mar, how great she is, but there's people who'd be like, Oh, well, that's obviously a man. it's like, fuck you. It's she's, ah she's like but actually quite attractive woman.
Jarrod Dyke: Yes.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, like what's your, like, anyway, good news is those people lost, which is always a good news. They, you know, so rarely do these days.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, and, and the right thing won. So, um, Again, this this would be much more helpful if people just didn't discriminate from the outset, but we're just going to have to win it battle by battle and hopefully we win in the long run.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, it's going be one little battle at a time, unfortunately.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: And the fucked up thing is like everybody, like the, the, the interesting thing anyways, that like, this is one of the first things that Nazi Germany did was they, um, ah attacked, uh, transgender people. And it was like a burgeoning thing. Like it was a lot like it is today in Germany back then. and And that was their first target because even like, you know, people who consider themselves themselves liberals are fully willing to throw trans people under the bus.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's, fucking awful as as the late great david lynch said you know you know fix your hearts or die like what the fuck did
Jarrod Dyke: Which is so messed up
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. ain't that Ain't that the truth.
Grumpy Old Prop: i say stephen lynch or david david lynch okay good fuck i always fuck that up because of the comedian slash yeah so i got it right think yeah no i shouldn't they're two geniuses but in very different ways
Jarrod Dyke: David.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: You should not do that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Anywho, let's get to rugby.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Buy our Patreon.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, buy our Patreon, and I actually should be able to have the Super Rugby and Lakeshift this week.
Grumpy Old Prop: There's cool stuff on it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Nice.
Jarrod Dyke: All but caught up on it, so.
Jarrod Dyke: Okay, um yeah, Champions Cup round of 16. bar Bar one team, I don't know if I'd be unhappy with the effort from the teams in this round in general.
Grumpy Old Prop: I agree with that.
Jarrod Dyke: maybe Maybe you could make the case for Claremont, but, ah you know, meh.
Grumpy Old Prop: I don't know.
Jarrod Dyke: That might be the other one.
Grumpy Old Prop: i I don't know even that. I think north Northampton... And they still put up 24. like That's still a respectable score.
Jarrod Dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: um they didn't They didn't completely pack it in, but Northampton... that
Grumpy Old Prop: like It's not often that you see teams that are like, you know what They belong in this... in this in the yeah um in the quarterfinals from the premiership. It's, you know, been traditionally Saracens, who's the only one who's like, yeah, they belong.
Grumpy Old Prop: um Yeah, obviously Exeter had their moment for a little bit too, um when their style would would actually win. um But the Saints look like a modern Champions Cup team.
Grumpy Old Prop: like championship level champions cup, not just, not just entrant, not just a participation trophy team.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, no participation trophies here.
Grumpy Old Prop: So that's a, that's a quality, you know, it's a quality team to go against and still put up 24 considering the rest of the scores.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: I know. and know. Like some of the, look i mean obviously we're going to get there, but like, Ooh, the numbers were just, just a merry-go-round.
Grumpy Old Prop: There's some brutal games.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. It
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah it was just, they would rack up left, right, and center. It was getting, getting silly to say the least.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. and But like, you know, or certainly um early on, like Freeman was ridiculous. um Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: did. Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, he brought it.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah and i
Jarrod Dyke: he He knew what he was doing.
Grumpy Old Prop: he really did
Jarrod Dyke: He had a Hattie, didn't he? Yes, he did.
Grumpy Old Prop: yu
Jarrod Dyke: Silly.
Grumpy Old Prop: um And Pollock, what the fuck, dude? Like, what doesn't he do?
Jarrod Dyke: Kids good. Kids really good.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, he's so good.
Jarrod Dyke: and
Grumpy Old Prop: He's going like, I think it's going to be hard to to keep him off the Lions tour, to be honest. Like, the way he can move, although, you know, this is, let's back, you know, back that train up a second because this still isn't the same level, but he's shown that he can do it at that level as well.
Jarrod Dyke: I
Jarrod Dyke: i wouldn't be surprised if he's the bolter. You know, people are like, who's going to be the bolter?
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, or like, you know, he's ah and a midweek guy. Like, that's that that works for him. But also someone who it's like, you know what, if if we need him to get 20 in a game, we can put him for in for 20 and get a hell of a performance.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. I think most people would agree. Yeah, the back row is just silly that they put out this week. Like,
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep. Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: Truck, Kemeny, and Pollock, and then, you know, Pearson's hanging out on the bench somewhere, and, like, so, and ASY's there, too. It's like, I don't even know why, like, I don't hate Tom Lockett.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: I don't know why you need him on the bench, honestly.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, not really.
Jarrod Dyke: Like, between ASY and Pearson, I know ASY's preferred position is not in the second row, but he is cover, so just saying, you could do that.
Grumpy Old Prop: But he can do it. Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: And that way you don't even need this. You don't you don't really need the six to.
Jarrod Dyke: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Agreed. Agreed. But, yeah. ah You know, it was good to see Claremont come back to this competition and and get to the knockouts because, you this is this is one of their big things that they want to get back to.
Grumpy Old Prop: hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: And yeah they had that lull of meh-ness for a little while.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. and
Jarrod Dyke: So good to see them back here.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep. and And I enjoyed seeing Peter Gus again.
Jarrod Dyke: And...
Grumpy Old Prop: I miss him.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. treated sure you did. sure sure Fiji will enjoy seeing him soon.
Grumpy Old Prop: Hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: What's that? He's stood down long enough from ABs because he ain't getting picked.
Grumpy Old Prop: No. No, certainly not now. But he should have been.
Jarrod Dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: no
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. I mean, they have a long list of things that they should have been doing.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. um So fun fact about the next game.
Jarrod Dyke: ah Yeah. Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: So Jared woke me up. Not essentially. i was I was getting up and and when he texted me that it was and it was halftime of this match and saying, oh, the boys got, you know, god i had I was like, oh, shit.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay, let me turn it on. um And what was it? I believe at half. ah believe it half
Jarrod Dyke: yes
Grumpy Old Prop: And was like, oh cool.
Jarrod Dyke: so
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm like, oh, I have to go to, mean, I have to do stuff with the baby. Like, yeah, I had a ah busy day. I couldn't just watch the second half. Um, so I turn it back on, you know, when I'm like, oh, it should be, should be just about over.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, and like the salaries had just like chipped it into the, uh, into the corner. Um, And I look up the score and I see the 42 and a 27, two and a seven on the other side.
Grumpy Old Prop: i'm like, okay, cool. Like, this is awesome.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: they're closing Closing it out. And that was right when they, um, announced, uh, who was it? Who was man of the match? Um, and, but ah obviously it was one of the, um, the two long players.
Jarrod Dyke: too long players yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: And it might've been Issa. Um, he had a Hattie, um,
Jarrod Dyke: I think it was think it was actually
Grumpy Old Prop: And I was like, like wait, they they're like so it's so fucking French. They're the home team and they're losing by more than two tries and they're just going to give it to the ah to the hometown player. And I'm like, wait a minute. And I look up at the scoreboard and like I hear the comms talking about how it like it's just been a bloodbath the second half. And I'm like, wait, well, oh, oh, oh, that's not a 27.
Jarrod Dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: No.
Jarrod Dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's a so that's that's seventy
Jarrod Dyke: It's 72.
Grumpy Old Prop: Fuck me.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: What happened? And I'm like, i'm fine okay, I don't need to watch this game. like
Jarrod Dyke: No. No. I mean, first half, front line players were incredible for Saris, and I don't think anybody would take that away from them.
Grumpy Old Prop: I got spoiled.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: And it was more, this is more that half of them. You know, we didn't get to talk about the Lester game, but like things like that are what Ben and I get frustrated with, with this team because there are capable of doing that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, they put, they played brilliantly, you know, they just, they attacked with abandon that didn't give a shit about, you know, we're not supposed to be here. None of that crap.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: They, you know, they, they, they attacked really well. And yeah, they kind of followed it at the end, at the end of the half by giving away two easy tries. But, um, Yeah, it was a really good performance in that first half. And, you know, I knew as soon as we got closer towards, you know middle of the second half or so, we were going to see guys leaving the pitch that had started. um They pulled Burke.
Jarrod Dyke: They pulled Van Sale. They pulled, they pulled Jonzo.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Like, yeah, as soon as they started pulling yeah those guys, let's see.
Grumpy Old Prop: OK.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah, Maui off half.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, wait. No.
Jarrod Dyke: while we came off at half Theo Dan came off around 60.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yup.
Jarrod Dyke: Richione came off shortly before that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: to I'm actually surprised they pulled Tiz and not the other guy any of the other guys. Andy Christie, who's still kind of working his way back from a bad injury, he came off.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Ben Sale, Burke, both off around 60-odd. You know, Goud was the one that was pulled the latest, and that was for Brandon Jackson.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: um You know, Louis Johnson got a run in this competition. Michelot got a run in this competition. Some guys got run in this competition that would never have seen it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Harry Wilson too.
Jarrod Dyke: And, right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like that's a, you know, he's, he's another long-term guy, but then that, yeah, like,
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: That, you know, when when you, they're still a, they're still the salaries, right? They still have that, as you said, they have that in them. um But not this, certainly not the bench. Like this was a, you know, we you can't, maybe you look at just at the fifth the starting 15 and you're like, you know what, that's a team that could come to win.
Grumpy Old Prop: But then, you know, this is a game of 23 versus 23, not just 15 versus 15.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Of course, of course. And it's just, and so I was willing to just be like, all right, if they come in the the way they played in this, in that first half, I was like, all right, I am more than happy with this performance from these boys and whatever happens happens after that.
Jarrod Dyke: And I'll live with it. And of course, you know, they had a 70 spot put on them, which hurts a little bit, but it's, it,
Grumpy Old Prop: That does, that part is a little Whoa Yeah
Jarrod Dyke: It's like, oh, oh, oh, okay. We could not do that ever again. That'd be great. But, you know, think, i mean, you look look at the kids. mean, not kids, but some of them are just you know still fairly young.
Jarrod Dyke: Louis Johnson's still pretty young, obviously.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep
Jarrod Dyke: Hadfield's the like fourth choice hooker, and that includes Piff Lutty, who's gone now.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: um Harvey Beaton, Harry Wilson, Michel O, Brandon Jackson. like Yeah, those are all babies. Apart from Gareth Simpson...
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Even Ali Hartley's not like and Hall like they're and oh Elliot like some of their starters are still Theo Dan like they're they're just coming into their own but they're still like well Theo Dan is is is in his own.
Jarrod Dyke: Young kids too, yeah. Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: He's getting there. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: But like still in in four or five years, these guys are going to be like, wow, these are good You know, these are good players.
Jarrod Dyke: He played brilliantly for that half.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: But you like they feel like they've been around forever? It's like, no, they were just really, really young and they got some time here or there.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Yeah. Apart from like carry and Simpson, that was all we had on the bench.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, right.
Jarrod Dyke: That was really worthy of mention in terms of like a, ah an impact presence.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, the other guys could have, but the likelihood was low.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, especially against Toulon, who, you know, they've been there.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: This is, like, far, far from their first rodeo.
Jarrod Dyke: Oh yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: So.
Jarrod Dyke: Um,
Grumpy Old Prop: And then there was another game.
Jarrod Dyke: There was.
Grumpy Old Prop: um And then there was a game after that.
Jarrod Dyke: Say there was.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah ah Well, one team showed up. First off, okay. i didn't I didn't watch this match. I'm pretty sure this is the one you did not either. um
Jarrod Dyke: Leinster-Quinn's match.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, I didn't watch that.
Grumpy Old Prop: No. Okay. I mean, Quinn's just...
Jarrod Dyke: I saw the score. i was like, nah, I'm not wasting my time with that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Nope.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: but Here's the thing, though, and I don't know i don't know how Quinn's played.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: This is a little bit of karma biting Danny Wilson because he had shit to say about the Saracens not naming a strong team.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah
Jarrod Dyke: Bruh, you named a strong team and you got humped. Like, significantly worse than we did.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like seriously humped. Like didn't put up a point. Didn't put up a single fucking point.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: With Chandler Cunningham South, Cunningham Evans and Dom.
Jarrod Dyke: So, and...
Grumpy Old Prop: You have four back rowers out there Like that's first off, I love it. I mean, you you know me about stuff like that. Like i guess put a put a six at lock. Absolutely. um Try to run them.
Grumpy Old Prop: Well.
Jarrod Dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: You know, you have to actually run them.
Jarrod Dyke: They do you do.
Grumpy Old Prop: But like, yeah, does not even put up a point with, the you know, that's a solid team.
Jarrod Dyke: And they didn't.
Grumpy Old Prop: and And I know you're playing a solid team, but come on now.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, and really, there there aren't a lot of teams that would be disappointed in the way they played other than them.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: And that's so... Sorry, Danny Wilson, you got what you deserved for opening your face. Okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: So I have, let's, look, let's try not to devolve this conversation into what it was similarly a few seasons ago.
Jarrod Dyke: i'm good
Grumpy Old Prop: oh but and This will all make sense in a second when I tell you where I'm going with it.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Grumpy Old Prop: I have a, I'm starting to come to the, the, The feeling that if you have, you know how there's team penalties or team yellow cards for just accumulation of fouls.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Grumpy Old Prop: It's my firm belief that props should be exempted from getting yellowed in that case.
Grumpy Old Prop: Because you get what we had at the end of cast Benetton. where first off, I don't think that I, I didn't see that as a high tackle.
Jarrod Dyke: yep
Grumpy Old Prop: I thought, I thought he was on the ball.
Grumpy Old Prop: um I thought guy Joe was, was, was like just on the ball, got underneath it, like, so or dropped his arm underneath it.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, I don't think that prevented it. Like, don't think he was preventing a try with a high tackle. Like I, I just, I didn't like it. I thought he'd like the, the call that Dickskin made there was just like,
Grumpy Old Prop: But at the same time, Benetton had gotten on his on his nerves. they He was like, they were on his last nerve. um
Jarrod Dyke: Well, I think both teams really had, but...
Grumpy Old Prop: They really were. And so he wasn't in in the mood for nonsense. But at the same time, like, now you yellow card a prop. They've already got the the one who's out. Like, any other position, yeah, okay, we're down a man. But this is a youre this is a ah ah potentially a two-man yellow card, especially because the other you know the reserve prop had gone off injured. like
Jarrod Dyke: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: I feel like there should be some special dispensation there to, so you're not in setting up that situation um where it's, it's, it's two man yellow for our, you know, not certainly not a yellow worthy offense. And I understand it's a team offense, but that's why I'm saying,
Grumpy Old Prop: you know, card the last guy who got enough, you know, who was not a prop. Like if the lock got it last time, okay, you know, you're off instead. Um, it's still, it's still, you're losing somebody, but you're not like potentially just completely giving up the game.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, I think that would just take, that would be the referee's discretion and that would be up to them.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um,
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, but that's what I would like. i would like to to work on that because I know it's not really a great, idea well really a well-formed idea, but it just annoyed me that it's like, oh, so the prop gets it for iffy offense and now they could go down to uncontested scrums and have to get two men off.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah I'm going to score it off of it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Which, okay, fair. Yeah, but fair. You scored off the... off off the the you know it was Ultimately, in the end, yes, there was a it was a fair scrum, not uncontested.
Grumpy Old Prop: um Who came on? Ferrari came on and crushed it.
Jarrod Dyke: Yes.
Grumpy Old Prop: I thought he did a great job in that scrum, as Lou said. I thought that... ah Who was it? Was it Garvisi? No, Fekitella. Just...
Grumpy Old Prop: backed out that was that was a feki toa problem there which is weird because he's a guy who i always thought of as as someone who was like would would unnecessarily hit people hard so what are you doing back out of that like dude this is what you do
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. i don't know what he was doing. don't know what he was doing. Yeah. Yeah. Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Um,
Jarrod Dyke: Well, before we get into the into the rugby, I do want to pick into similar territory where you're at. I'm not into Obama Yang is staying on this field.
Grumpy Old Prop: And so to what?
Jarrod Dyke: Like, I'm not into Obama Yang staying on this field for dumping Rino Smith over the boards like that, like...
Grumpy Old Prop: so
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: That is because I don't know what's on the other side of that board. I assume it's concrete. And if he dropped him over there, that's that could be serious, serious injury.
Grumpy Old Prop: What? Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: So really, shame on Dixon for not like bringing him into this whole thing.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: and so For me, it's a red.
Grumpy Old Prop: I thought so.
Jarrod Dyke: Because he he dumps him over the boards. He drops him. Really, if you look at it from a rugby standpoint, so he's tipped him above the freaking, you know, above the horizontal.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: He dropped him. Like, there's no care.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, he did.
Jarrod Dyke: There's no care of duty there. Send him off. um But that's just the absurdness of afterwards. It's like, guys, just stop. Just stop, please.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: God, all you. All you. And I'm sure Vandenberg was big and chirpy in there because he's, you know, Sorry, South Africans, but South Africans, that you're you're good at that stuff.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: So um I'm sure Zuzu was just like, yeah, I'm going to fucking kill you, dude. like And that was the end of his decision making.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: He's like, all right, red mist, here we go. So that's probably why we ended up with two yellows in that situation.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: But I don't think it should have been... Just that. I think you got to send the guy off that dumps Ryan Smith off the over the boards for nothing.
Jarrod Dyke: I mean, yeah, he wanted the ball. like It's his ball.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: and they Guys are going to do that. We know that.
Grumpy Old Prop: right That's what I...
Jarrod Dyke: Is it shit is a little shithousery? Yes, it is.
Grumpy Old Prop: I don't...
Jarrod Dyke: But you know it's going to happen.
Grumpy Old Prop: Why does it got to be violent? Like, why does that suddenly... Like, I get it that you're there're you're annoyed by him, but that doesn't mean you just fucking assault the guy. It just means, like, okay, yeah, you you're a dick.
Jarrod Dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: All right. ah Like, we're not going to go quick. I'll just fuck off and we'll have our line out. Like, that's at the end of the day, that's really all it is. Like, just get the fuck over it.
Grumpy Old Prop: I don't understand why why people get all, you know, deucing-deucing about, like, somebody holding onto a ball when they shouldn't.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, it's... it's just fun. And yeah it's yeah, it's fucking with you. Get over it.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. I'm sorry, you just exactly did what they wanted you to do, which was react.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. But anyway, we're we're we're talking past the the the big thing, which was the rugby in this match was fucking awesome.
Jarrod Dyke: Like, that's the whole point.
Jarrod Dyke: which was It was good. It was really good.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like when you actually played rugby.
Jarrod Dyke: it's so It's so sad there to be so much bullshit otherwise. like It was really good stuff.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: I i was watching this. I'm like, these are these are not just tries. These are freaking amazing scores.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, worldies.
Jarrod Dyke: This is stuff you put on a highlight reel for like a season, let alone one match.
Grumpy Old Prop: i
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. yep I miss Odogwu.
Jarrod Dyke: The O-Dog.
Grumpy Old Prop: He was good in this game. He was but classic Odogwu.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Starting plays that ended in tries, corner zone tries because he's still got lightning speed and physical as all get out. ah he I think he smashed someone hard. I can't remember.
Jarrod Dyke: The winger, I think, that was out that way.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, he he he put someone down for a bit. um Just yeah, like.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep, there was some good hit. Well, who lit up who who loved the guy that ended up, I think Manichello ended up scooping it up, or maybe maybe it was Manichello, and then someone scooped it up and they ended up scoring almost immediately off of it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, I think I think that I think it was Menacello. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, I was like, ah, ow.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: ah Man, that's that's not a comfortable hit right there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Tell you that much.
Grumpy Old Prop: because that that Was that the Albornoz try? Is that how he scored?
Jarrod Dyke: I think so. i think so.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, that was that was pretty good.
Grumpy Old Prop: Also, I thought it was fun, um if nothing else, to hear the comms talking about Jack Goodhue. And it was always like, it's Guju. Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: You can't pronounce the duh. It's ju.
Jarrod Dyke: I'm pretty
Grumpy Old Prop: ah It's Guju in there. And I'm like, what? Guju? Who the fuck is Guju?
Jarrod Dyke: sure that guy's Scottish and the accent is not helping him.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, it's Guju. yeah It's not helping at all.
Jarrod Dyke: No. No, I don't think that was doing him any favors. But, you know, but for a team that didn't really want to be in this competition, they ended up being, you know, a pretty good...
Jarrod Dyke: Round of 16 hosts there, Cass did. And this is still, a and don't don't and they won't take it that way, but we should still note it. Benetton, this is a still a big step for them to be here and to knock out rugby in Europe.
Jarrod Dyke: So they while they wanted more, and we and really a lot of us wanted more.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: I wanted them to get more. i thought they deserved it more than
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: um um Claremont cast to where the fuck it was.
Jarrod Dyke: Cass.
Grumpy Old Prop: Ha! That's sorry.
Jarrod Dyke: Cass.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's a throwback to inside joke between me and Jared because I called them Claremont.
Jarrod Dyke: but for the longest time.
Grumpy Old Prop: was kind no No, When I was talking about this match, I was like, oh, in the Claremont Benetton game, you you mean cast?
Jarrod Dyke: yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: oh yeah When we were talking about before.
Grumpy Old Prop: like Oh, yeah, yeah. That one.
Jarrod Dyke: Yes.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Yes. That one. um But yeah. And they, they should still, you know, they'll look back on it later on and say, yeah, this is pretty awesome.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: And it's a step forward for Italian club rugby as well.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: So I'm, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm filled for them.
Grumpy Old Prop: And that's a, that's a stack team in the back. I know you get like Rhino Smith. Isn't he on the little, on the older side? I'm not mistaken.
Jarrod Dyke: a little bit.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, so it's like, you know, maybe not. Oh yeah. He's 32. That's not, you know, great.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: But I mean, three years from now, if they still, they you know, they still have Brex, Menichello, Dogwood, and Mendy. Um,
Grumpy Old Prop: That's a team and they still, you know, they still have some, some young forwards like, um, Lamarro still young, uh, Giuliani, same thing. luoneate Like and fuck.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep, we have some good things.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's fun to see Andy here in two. Hi, Andy. Miss you too.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, and Jacob Bumaga. Yeah. They've got like, you know, they got some players.
Jarrod Dyke: There's some talent over there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: There's some talent, no question.
Grumpy Old Prop: They're going to around.
Jarrod Dyke: Okay, so let's go.
Jarrod Dyke: are we going next? Hold on, sorry, my computer's going slow.
Grumpy Old Prop: Stade Marcel Defong
Jarrod Dyke: Yes, we are. that's right God. So many things to talk about in this match.
Grumpy Old Prop: for the Rocky no
Jarrod Dyke: ah did you did First off, did you see the quote from O'Gara about Crowley? but it she He's like, cheeky fucker, a little fucker, or something like that.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah
Jarrod Dyke: with And I'm pretty sure he said that with love. I don't think he said that with Malice in any way she performed when he hit the drop goal.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah oh no of course not yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: I was just like, oh, God. Now he's... ah
Grumpy Old Prop: Well, that's what i I was like.
Jarrod Dyke: um
Grumpy Old Prop: You got to be fucking kidding me. the you You're going to you're going to. Drop those on the table like that's. Yeah, I was all all for it.
Jarrod Dyke: ye now he
Grumpy Old Prop: And I was I was hoping for La Rochelle to win. And I was still like, you know what? No, that's like you've turned my loyalty at 68 minutes. like That was really. Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: you know classy, cheeky bastard move. and like I gotta to respect that. I
Jarrod Dyke: You cheeky bastard. Yeah, it was, man, this was just, while there wasn't, no, don't think they did either.
Grumpy Old Prop: i also don't think Laura Rochelle played all that well.
Jarrod Dyke: And I think O'Gara would first to tell you that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. I mean...
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. And I'm not, i don't I don't even think honestly monster played all that well. Like this was, I think the the most poorly played match of the of the weekend from, on you know, ah for both sides.
Grumpy Old Prop: um And I think just somebody had to win. Ultimately that's, that's the only reason that any, either of these teams won this match.
Jarrod Dyke: and it was But it The atmosphere and just the the the the the the the...
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, tense as motherfucker.
Jarrod Dyke: The tension was...
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: God, you could you cut it through with a sword. Like, shit It was really, really... i was glued to this match and Lachlan's trying to crawl all over me and I'm just like, kid, you gotta take a seat.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Like, you don't understand what you're missing.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: And yeah, and and same, like I'm not saying, I'm not saying that it wasn't entertaining. It's just that this was the, like, if any, either of these teams played pretty much any other team in this competition this weekend, they'd lose.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's my take on this match.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, that might be true.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, it just was such a slog, the whole thing.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: like they they were yeah There was some good play by Rochelle. They just weren't finishing, and then Munster just like you know kept chopping. it wasn't you know They kept getting opportunities and and then eventually took advantage of them.
Grumpy Old Prop: It was pretty you know pretty regular scoring from on their part, really. like you know Nine minutes in, 24, 41.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: So really, it's about... forty one so really it's about you know
Grumpy Old Prop: you know, 15 to 17 minutes every, you know, um yeah every score. And then, and yeah, you just keep putting up the points and you win. And then La Rochelle, finally, it wasn't until like, you know, so yeah the late in the match when they actually like, you know we really want to win this game.
Grumpy Old Prop: And they just didn't have enough.
Jarrod Dyke: and Teddy Tumat didn't want him in this game.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh my God. What do you, dude, honestly, honestly,
Jarrod Dyke: What a total buffoon. He owes the whole team a freaking rack of beer. Like, oh my god, that was terrible.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, I had seen um someone did spoil it on the um the Blue Skies for me, where it was ah like, Teddy Tomah did not score on this play.
Jarrod Dyke: The social medias.
Grumpy Old Prop: And it was like the picture of him like having the ball and the people are still coming out to it And it's like, are you fucking kidding me?
Jarrod Dyke: Those were front rowers, by the way.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Like, you can like can't tell me that.
Jarrod Dyke: So remember this. Don't try and cut back on front rowers because that's what they're hoping you're going to do.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: you kidding me?
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: they're all They don't want to chase you down. They're just like, please come back this way like an idiot.
Grumpy Old Prop: and the can
Jarrod Dyke: And he he just obliges them. Like, you moron.
Grumpy Old Prop: And the comms are talking about what great defense, and it's like, no, no, that defense was awful.
Jarrod Dyke: Ugh.
Jarrod Dyke: Eventually they rinsed him for it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right, but it's like, oh wait, no, all you had literally all he had to do was take like two steps to the left, and then he's running to the corner, and nobody's nobody is catching him.
Jarrod Dyke: All he's got, he would just fall over. Like...
Grumpy Old Prop: ah Yeah, he owes all the people, all the things.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, oh, big time. Big time. Let's go to the Scottsdale. Glasgow and Leicester. ah Not ah Yeah, this did get away in the second half, unfortunately, a little bit. And I don't think it's...
Grumpy Old Prop: Well, ah that's...
Jarrod Dyke: it's not down to Lester playing that ballet Glasgow. We're just, they were feeling it. They were feeling themselves big time.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. there's just a Again, it's that 23 versus 23.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: And, you know, one team's putting Finn Karnedoff out there.
Jarrod Dyke: Who I like, but, but.
Grumpy Old Prop: But yeah, and the other one's putting Rory Darge out there.
Jarrod Dyke: Hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Comparing, comparing the two of those that you've, you know, um yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. And I'd take Cantillaria over Woodward.
Jarrod Dyke: Tom Mann's,
Grumpy Old Prop: Like there's, yeah, there's,
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, the show penis.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, you know, don't disrespect the Shilpinans, but, but yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: I don't, but at the same time, like there's still point where i'm just like, nope, don't need that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. And, you know, the ever-present Ben Youngs, who is just not what Ben Youngs used to be. So, and he came on he came on early, too.
Jarrod Dyke: And hasn't been for a while.
Grumpy Old Prop: 56, like, they just emptied the bench at, like, you know, mid-50s.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: And it's like, that was, again, same thing. Just not, in the attack like, same as kind of the salaries. Like, not an attempt to win.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, and
Jarrod Dyke: Glasgow just, they were looking, every time someone touched the ball in the back line especially, it looked like they were going to have a problem. And just, blessed we're having probably really it was Glasgow's own execution that made this score not uglier than it was.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: I think that's fair to say.
Grumpy Old Prop: But I mean, you look at that back line. Yeah, you Radwin and Hussle, but like I'm looking at that center combination. I'm like, neither of them are world beaters. So just take advantage of that because.
Jarrod Dyke: Kelly has taken a huge drop off. Like he was on the Ascension and just somewhere in there last couple of years, just, you know, has hit the skids big time.
Grumpy Old Prop: hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: And I, I, I feel for him at the same time, like kid, you ain't that good.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Sorry. You know,
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, seriously, get good. You were you were on the track. i don't know what the hell happened, but whatever you've been doing the last like two two and a half seasons, do what you were doing this season and a half before that.
Jarrod Dyke: Well, he's he's on his way out. He's heading to Munster, I think.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. um Yeah, that'll help them.
Jarrod Dyke: Maybe. Hey, well, he's going to play for your guy.
Grumpy Old Prop: Hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: McMillan. So that'll be interesting. Anywho, let's go... Let's go Sunday. Interesting things all over. We'll start in Bordeaux first.
Jarrod Dyke: ah um Yeah, you know... Ulster were the only team that got into this knockout having only one win. It was a nice win, but they only had one win.
Jarrod Dyke: they add I think they had one other bonus point as well to go with it, maybe two. um And that's it. You wouldn't have known it, though. like they were They were going for it. They really were.
Grumpy Old Prop: They were. And they got, they got Zach Ward two tries.
Jarrod Dyke: and know they got it they got one late to make it look a little more interesting, but...
Jarrod Dyke: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, the Zach Ward, like, I don't know. I was, it was one of those, I was completely unimpressed with his play. And it's like, then he scored, he got like, know, lucky, a couple of lucky bounces, but it's like, Hey, they put him in the position to do it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, They tried, right?
Jarrod Dyke: Yes.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's what happens. with i what i'm Where I'm getting at is that's what happens when you try. Sometimes, like, Zach Ward gets a brace. like Okay. It makes sense that that a Timony would get on the board.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Jarrod Dyke: Timoney makes sense, totally. like
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Not sure about Tommy O'Toole, but, you know.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: But, yeah, I mean, there were there was a lot of good stuff going on in this in this team, and, yeah, there was there' was a good old prop try in there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Well, you know, good could tight head prop try, yeah. Actually, two good tight end prop tries because Tamifuna had won himself.
Jarrod Dyke: Tamifuna, yeah. Yeah,
Grumpy Old Prop: But at the same time but same time, Adam Coleman scored in this game. So it's like, okay, on one hand, yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah this game became a real one when that fucker scored. I was like, never mind.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. like that that After that, it made sense that Ward scored twice. because I think he scored twice after um Coleman had scored once. because Coleman came off early.
Jarrod Dyke: That might be true.
Grumpy Old Prop: So
Grumpy Old Prop: so yeah, it was already that game before... um Yeah, Coleman scored early. He scored... thought Luke who just owned this game.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, you got the second or third one.
Grumpy Old Prop: As well, like.
Jarrod Dyke: i don't remember which one.
Grumpy Old Prop: Sport team is another that like.
Jarrod Dyke: There you go.
Grumpy Old Prop: so he scored the garbage time tries
Jarrod Dyke: Garbage time, but they still count.
Grumpy Old Prop: so there you go really was yeah exactly um
Grumpy Old Prop: i thought lukeu just owned this game
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, he played really well.
Grumpy Old Prop: as well
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Tons of good out of him.
Grumpy Old Prop: bordeau team is is another one that like yeah to watch because Moe Fauna was massive and well, i like literally and figuratively and Pino is just Pino.
Jarrod Dyke: Yes. Yeah. um A word on Jack Murphy, because it seems like they have yet another young 10 that's developing quite well.
Jarrod Dyke: um they They brought in... Joke's on you, Aiden Morgan. You shouldn't have left us, Dick.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: um They brought in Aiden Morgan to try to to fill in the 10 shirt because they going to have anybody because Burns was leaving.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: And then this young... you know Another really good 10 coming through higher system comes in, and he's ah he's looking pretty slick every time he he's got a hand on ball in hand, especially front football makes you look real good, obviously.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: um When they got it, he didn't look like he... was lost He didn't look like he didn't belong. He looked like he was the part. So i I got to give him a ton of credit.
Jarrod Dyke: And, you know, playing a tough place like that, like this is is not a cakewalk that he just went into. You know, this is ah you this is the top team and in Europe in terms of the how they finished in the pool play.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: And, you know, the superstars that are playing in this team just roll off the thumb. You know, Tamifuna, Diaby, Petty, Samu, Luku, Carberry.
Jarrod Dyke: uh moifana pano burros and they still didn't have blbra and you know guys coming off the bench like jali bear like yep okay this this is the real deal so if he can hang with that i think i'll start something good there and aiden morgan you can go fuck yourself dude
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: uh anyway uh but yeah i mean bordeaux
Grumpy Old Prop: Shocking sentiment from you.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Yeah. Well, considering how we'll talk about all the Hurricanes played this weekend, too.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: So that that didn't help me. I didn't help my thought process in my mood at all.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: ah um But yes, this sport of team is going be a motherfucker stop. And that's what even without Louis BWI, like Jesus.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, right?
Jarrod Dyke: And, you know, Jelly Bear was just coming back. I think he's just coming back to health. That's why he didn't start.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: But, like, jeez. Like, yeah yeah. You take off Joey Carberry, who's a class act in his own right, and pull that guy on.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: You're like, mother. And I think he came off a little banged up. And that's why they brought up. They were like, you know what? We don't need you. we We have Jelly Bear. You're you're good, kid.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, you're you're good.
Jarrod Dyke: Come sit. And it's like, yeah god damn it. Why? Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Somebody tell me why.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, Carver came off at 46. So that was a, yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah That's another one for sure. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, who goes to Bordeaux this week? Munster?
Grumpy Old Prop: um Oh, I lost it. Oh, I didn't. um Shoot. Go the right way. um Yeah, Monster goes to Bordeaux.
Jarrod Dyke: Okay. That'll be... That should be interesting, at least.
Jarrod Dyke: And then... start to lose
Jarrod Dyke: We had a show before the yeah the show. we had We had an opening act.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh my gosh. Did have an opening act though.
Jarrod Dyke: Those that didn't, so some of you didn't get to see this.
Grumpy Old Prop: A daredevil.
Jarrod Dyke: but Yeah. So you didn't get to see this, but they, you know, as poorly as flow is, this was the upside is they just didn't turn the cameras off for any way in the on that international feed, which was what we get over here.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: So they just kept rolling. I turned the game on. I'm like, I think it was Ugo Mala. That was just like ah looking up and talking, or maybe it was Sanderson. I don't remember who it was. It was one of the coaches. And I was just like, and they're up and they're pointing over there and they're talking. And I'm like,
Jarrod Dyke: Where the hell's the game?
Grumpy Old Prop: but
Jarrod Dyke: but And then they flash to this poor fella hanging from his parachute.
Grumpy Old Prop: and
Jarrod Dyke: I'm like, oh shit, we have a problem. I
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah They tried to tried to to put out a bouncy castle for him.
Jarrod Dyke: um
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, you're like, Casey falls.
Jarrod Dyke: a i mean, just on the off chance, it came loose and he fell, which obviously would have been horrible, but like,
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: horrible right it's it's no he's okay so it's hilarious okay that's that's how this works he's okay so we are we all have to laugh at it um or we all can laugh at it um you don't have to i'm not gonna make you if you don't want to but i'm gonna because it's funny to me
Jarrod Dyke: Yes, he's okay, so we can have a laugh at it. Absolutely.
Jarrod Dyke: It was like, what is this? like yeah like you can't make it up. I was like, this is bizarre. This is one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen.
Jarrod Dyke: It was just the littlest bit of his fucking parachute that really got caught.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Everything else um was loose. Sorry. I couldn't believe it. i was like, oh, my God, what is going on here? Yeah. yeah And the that is the loudest cheer those firefighters will ever, ever get to.
Jarrod Dyke: That is their moment. That is their moment right there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Maybe. i don't know. Firefighters do some really cool shit at protests in France. So I'm not going to...
Jarrod Dyke: maybe Maybe not.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, it might might not be the their biggest cheer. but Actually, no, probably because that's, you know, tens of thousands of people cheering them on.
Jarrod Dyke: Well, you got, let's say, yeah, you got like 30,000 people cheering for you.
Grumpy Old Prop: So, yeah, that's a little different.
Jarrod Dyke: And, you know, they they the guy got on the PA and was trying to, you know, do the same thing they do for the tries and stuff. That was pretty good. was like, all right, this is this is cool for them. But, yeah, so thankfully he's okay.
Jarrod Dyke: No big deal. But 45-minute delay later, and there was some rugby.
Grumpy Old Prop: Which was funny because I was doing grocery shopping at the time.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: I had to take i had to like i only had a brief amount of time, so I had to like cut out on the last bit of the last game. And then I was right, I'll miss the first bit of this game. And nope, I didn't. I was so well in time.
Jarrod Dyke: No. Someone saved you.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Thanks, dude. Thanks for taking one for the team. um
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, this is like and this was not nearly not nearly as close as the score line makes it look.
Jarrod Dyke: Well, yes. and no I mean, i think the scoreline might flatter to lose a little bit because I think they were...
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, I was thinking, I mean, I thought they, I thought they controlled it really well. It's just, they weren't scoring until they, you know, started putting them down, but
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, I mean, they they were a little, I mean think we we can all admit they were a little clunky in the first half.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah. Yeah. That's fair.
Jarrod Dyke: And and and
Grumpy Old Prop: mean, they let, they let James score. Are you fucking kidding me?
Jarrod Dyke: no, they let Johnny Hill score.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's true.
Jarrod Dyke: And I know it was later on, but like, or not that much later on, but like, yeah, when that fuck bag scoring, like, yeah, all right, that, that, that, no.
Grumpy Old Prop: Fuck. No, it was. Yeah. Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: and And you can see, you can see that's the time when they're like, you know what? Fuck this shit. Let's go. Cause they scored every point after that.
Jarrod Dyke: Yes. Yeah. And I mean.
Grumpy Old Prop: But that's, i think that's what I mean. Like if, if they had just decided to play like that from the start and just be like, you know, they would have crushed it.
Jarrod Dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Cause they just were scoring tries for fun. Like every couple minutes.
Jarrod Dyke: By the end. Yeah. By the end.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um,
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. But the they remember Robux try got chalked off barely like.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: this It would have been an interesting game if that had held up. And i'm looking it, I'm like, oh man, it was by the slightest of inches.
Grumpy Old Prop: Well, then he should have stayed in. should have stayed in play. That's all you want to.
Jarrod Dyke: Man.
Grumpy Old Prop: You want to score a try, keep your heel up or, or you know, he did a good job of of getting that the foot up out of touch before he caught the ball. But then the second, the next foot.
Jarrod Dyke: The second one came down, and he had been touching it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, that was that was pretty clearly in touch.
Jarrod Dyke: I was like, oof, so close, man.
Grumpy Old Prop: I thought. But it's also one of those that it was like, I thought it was clear, but at the same time that what I think is clear isn't what they go by.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Jarrod Dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: So I was like, i don't know if that's enough to overturn it, but look, you know, in the end, I think it was.
Jarrod Dyke: It ended up being there, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep, yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: They got there eventually.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. So, in the and in the end, you know we talk about the quality of Bordeaux, obviously the quality of Clues.
Grumpy Old Prop: hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: just as much, if not more so, you know, starting with the whole front row, the pack just the whole pack, you know, Jack Willis, who's going to probably be on the plane to Australia this summer.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: um Yeah. yeah Are they missing DuPont? Yes. Like this would have been, this would have been 50 if DuPont was in but at the same time, they have more than enough talent to take this, take this,
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes.
Jarrod Dyke: tournament should they desire to and you know pull their heads out of their backsides to make sure they play properly but I think they'll be okay yeah Kapuazzo getting getting scored getting wheeled off after scoring a fucking worldie
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. I think they'll be just fine. Um... Even I'm just worried.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's my that's my biggest concern with him now is what happens there. That was weird. Let's put it that way. It didn't look like it was, which means it was probably of like a but and actually a broken ankle, which is, you know, kind of it sucks.
Jarrod Dyke: there's innocuous as hell
Jarrod Dyke: sucks maybe maybe
Grumpy Old Prop: But at the same time, it's a little bit of karma for all the ankles he breaks.
Grumpy Old Prop: I was just thinking about that because was like, you know, because i I saw him like twist, you know, holding his ankle afterwards. And I was like, he like, he dodged you. He dodged you. He dodged you. He dodged you. And now he's going to end up with, he's going to be the one with a broken ankle.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like for real, like, yeah,
Jarrod Dyke: doesn't seem right
Grumpy Old Prop: but yeah not Not at all. Yeah. yeah And especially because it wasn't one of those, you know, years that could happen to anybody that your as you're scoring a world. you like, you know, yeah the anybody could have done that to get to that point, obviously.
Grumpy Old Prop: um But no, just the the falling over while getting tackled, like someone landing on you wrong could happen to anybody. And it sucks. I don't know what they're going to do with without him. Exactly. i don't know who I don't know enough about their roster to know who.
Grumpy Old Prop: um who they might have but I'm sure they have someone fucking good so who cares they're gonna be he's alright
Jarrod Dyke: like Juan Cruz Malia
Jarrod Dyke: yep they'll pull him in they'll pull in know I think Matisse Lebel did not play in this game like I'm pretty sure I saw him
Grumpy Old Prop: oh fuck that's right i was like that's what I was like there's somebody else that I'm missing here um yeah okay yeah
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was walking around their locker room healthy, so I think he might be coming to the team this this coming week here. So, yeah, Godspeed to everyone else out there.
Jarrod Dyke: Good luck, everyone else.
Grumpy Old Prop: And Tom Curry came off early. And I, for some reason, I don't remember that happening.
Jarrod Dyke: He did. and
Jarrod Dyke: ah It was ah china just like was very quick. like he was was brought off for... i think it was a head injury that he failed.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay. was that It must have been, I guess. um yeah I figured that, but I didn't i somehow missed it.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: um mostly because it was just me with the baby. So I can't believe I missed something like that.
Grumpy Old Prop: um Because I was just like, I remember by the end thinking like, I don't, you know, kind of as I predicted in a pregame text to to Jared, like I expected to see a lot of Jack Willis and really not much of either Curry.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: And you know, because later in the match, I'm like, I haven't seen Tom Curry in a while. um i haven't seen him do anything. I haven't seen Ben Curry doing much of anything like,
Grumpy Old Prop: and there's Jack Willis just sitting there
Jarrod Dyke: To Ben Curry, that would be that would be ah that would be ah burn. But to Tom Curry, that is factual because you haven't seen him for a while.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah I didn't I hadn't seen him in a while right um so that makes sense as to why I was wondering where the Currys were um like I would see Ben every so often but not anyway not the way Jack was playing yeah like he this is i oh my god
Jarrod Dyke: Jack Willis ate it all.
Jarrod Dyke: No, let's be honest. It's me off with that. Hey, at all. Let's be, let's be really honest about this.
Grumpy Old Prop: He really, he did, and he um somehow ran with it. like i think you're supposed to wait 30 minutes before doing that. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: I would wait a lot longer if I did, if I had eaten that much carry.
Grumpy Old Prop: but yeah you Right.
Jarrod Dyke: That's for sure. Like that stuff doesn't agree with me to begin with. So me running with that stuff. Ah, not a good idea. going pick one. One of those jackass videos.
Jarrod Dyke: All right. um Let's go to the Supers.
Jarrod Dyke: um Yeah. Let's talk about scorelines that might flatter our team a little bit. Reds played well in this game. And i was i was watching this game at work while i was doing it while I was doing some work.
Jarrod Dyke: And people were just like, you're you're into this game. I'm like, yeah, sorry. I'm not trying to be an asshole.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: um But it was interesting, to say the least. um Yeah. I mean, Chiefs eventually showed their class and and and took over. But, man, I was like, all right.
Jarrod Dyke: So Reds are for real. Like, don't don't doubt that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Oh, no, no, no. I didn't doubt it going in. I wasn't like completely. It's not like I was completely confident about it. But at the same time, it it does depend on which Chiefs team shows up, especially when ah certain someone is at 10.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Jarrod Dyke: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: But I will also say um he's getting better at it.
Grumpy Old Prop: like he's doing a lot less of the stupid stuff that he'd been doing. Like there's a lot less a DMACC. Like that's one of the ones you, you know, don't try to be like cute on. He's, he's kind of putting a little bit of the cuteness away and, and making better decisions with it. And I think that's, he's really guiding the team more as a 10.
Grumpy Old Prop: So good on you for taking the step forward.
Jarrod Dyke: So i can only I can only help them, say the least, which is terrifying.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um,
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Because it's also like he's it's it's a little bit of trust in his teammates. Like, yes, DMACC, we know you can do a lot of cool shit, but you know who else can? um All five of the people outside you, plus the guy inside the the the guy inside you.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, you have you have seven people out here who can all do cool shit.
Jarrod Dyke: Yes.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, let's let's let them do it.
Jarrod Dyke: it's all Let's all share the wealth, shall we?
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Um... If I'm, and maybe I'm wrong on this, but just watching that game, um um if I'm less kissed, I'm not sure I'm going to start McLaughlin Phillips at 10 if I can help it again.
Jarrod Dyke: and know you need to give Linus some time to not get too banged up, and you're probably going to fully rest him one day, so you will have to play this. But I was extremely unimpressed with him. Kicking off the tee was not good, like,
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, for all the good things Reds were doing, he was not a part of a lot of it.
Grumpy Old Prop: But also like
Grumpy Old Prop: Right and also why Why would you choose this match to do that
Jarrod Dyke: Would not be my choice.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Like, although, you know, maybe, maybe the thought is, and I, cause I always go with this. What if the Reds are setting this up for um ah finals?
Grumpy Old Prop: So they're trying to see what, I mean, this is, this could, this is pretty much the chief's best lineup. I don't think that there's like, you know, except for maybe rambling, honestly,
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, maybe.
Grumpy Old Prop: I, if, if in a, in a finals, I could see this, you know, one, one to 22 being the team or, you know, obviously maybe not, maybe not Brody, Brody McAllister at hooker, but, um, you know generally speaking, um, this is right.
Jarrod Dyke: I mean, you probably swapped the two hookers there, but that's it.
Grumpy Old Prop: That, but that's it. Um,
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah, I, you get a look at him. You see, put in your young guy, like let, you know, one of your young guys, let him get a look at it. Um, see what it's like at this level. Um, just in case, what if, what if something happens to line up the rest of the, you know, the rest of the way and you still need McLaughlin Phillips to, to carry the load.
Grumpy Old Prop: And, um, yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. I'll have to do some growing up if that happens.
Grumpy Old Prop: So, and so, you know, and maybe that's not their starting 13 really, but other than that, this is a pretty good, uh,
Jarrod Dyke: I like him a lot though.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Pakeho, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay. Sorry.
Jarrod Dyke: I like him a lot. I think he's really like i think he's really like The first game that he played, I thought I was really impressed. i was like, all right, there's something here for this kid. So they got something there. So I would, you know, when you don't need to play, you know, Luke and Paisami you don't or you can't, then he's not a bad option.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: OK,
Jarrod Dyke: let's go to North Harbor. Taz Moana and started off well for Taz and that second and a half came and oof.
Jarrod Dyke: ah we'veve We've seen the memes, but like Moana's second half is a different animal. And they showed
Grumpy Old Prop: vi Yeah, they're like when they when they can put it together and when they just say, you know what, fuck it, we're going for it. um It's really hard to to stop them.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Especially when they're at home.
Jarrod Dyke: There's two backs that have...
Grumpy Old Prop: Or especially when you're on the road, at least, you know.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, don't don't go sleeping on them when you're yeah just because you're up in wrong place to do that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: um There's two backs for Moana that have really taken big steps forward for me, and just this game emphasized it. Not that I didn't notice it before, but just really emphasized it.
Jarrod Dyke: Pellegrini, number one. and He's taking the starting 10 job from... Garden Bashup, that says a lot because I think he's a pretty quality play. And William Havili has really upped his play this season for them. And I think the switch to 15 has helped him a lot as well.
Grumpy Old Prop: I think that's that's exactly it. I think because of like i think it's the the the those two things in concert, like because Pellegrini is playing so well, you can put Havili back at 15.
Jarrod Dyke: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm-hmm. Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: And, um
Grumpy Old Prop: you know, and Tawala too being in there to help guide like from the insides. And now you've got Havili um and Danny Tawala as both who can kind of step in at at at a first receiver if they have to um and also provide guidance on the run. It's yeah, that's that's good shit.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: And it's it's paying off.
Jarrod Dyke: A couple of former free Jacks playing in this game too. Play it in a center. Maybe.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, yeah. I like Paya.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, I did too. But when he signed with them, i was like, well, that's, that's that that that that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep. Okay. You go do you buddy. I'm not going to be mad about it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, I do want to say yeah, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: And Santa Rivi too. Same thing. but
Jarrod Dyke: The old Taranaki tank.
Grumpy Old Prop: That was...
Jarrod Dyke: He was really good.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Um,
Jarrod Dyke: So two things. Jekyll and Hyde on this one, and not not the same person. um We knew it before, but Sule is a huge difference being in this team.
Jarrod Dyke: they're they're They're missing other guys, clearly.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: like ah Max Jorgensen is not really helpful.
Jarrod Dyke: know I think there's there's still some issues going on in the midfield. um I'm not overly convinced of Creighton being the the choice, but Okay. No Jake Gordon. That's not helpful.
Jarrod Dyke: Um, but he set up the young kid Wilson for a try and he set up Riley for at least one, if not two as well. Like the guy is good. Yeah. You three tries. Yes. Okay. There you go.
Jarrod Dyke: Damn. Yeah. The guy's good. Um, I don't think that's, it I don't think that's the question anymore. If it is, if it is, then it's been answered.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: But well I think there's also, you know, you're you're talking, though, about the 10 position for for Taz. i want to go back to it. Like Tain Ed Ben is looking is I think he's looking to leave. i think I saw a report that he's he's he's done um with with Aussie rugby, I guess, which may explain why he's not been playing, but also.
Jarrod Dyke: Oh, really?
Grumpy Old Prop: May explain that him not playing may also explain why he's like saying fuck off.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. It's could be yeah to chicken or the egg at this point, really, what what came first.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. But it's like, yeah,
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah he's, he's, I think he's outplayed what, um oh yeah, he played in wall his last test. Now I admit can't crack the toss. So he's, I think he's, he might be leaving Taz. He might not be leaving Australia.
Grumpy Old Prop: um I think I was mixing it with someone else, but I think he...
Jarrod Dyke: Okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Jarrod Dyke: Well, maybe... I mean, there aren't lot of options where there isn't already an established 10, that being a problem.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, yeah. Well, also, that's what it is. The Brumbies, Lola Sio, that's what it is. Lola Sio is going off to Japan. um
Jarrod Dyke: How long is that going to be for?
Grumpy Old Prop: so I don't know, but they need a 10. So, Nedved's like, I'll go.
Jarrod Dyke: Damn.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, and I think, i think um yeah, I think Lolisio, I think that's that's where I was getting the the two things mixed up.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, because Dipper Scenie's not the answer there.
Grumpy Old Prop: I think Lolisio is like, i'm not I don't think I'm going get selected for Ozzy, so I'm going to just go and make money.
Jarrod Dyke: There you go.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Jarrod Dyke: Hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: So, that's why he's off to Japan, and I'll probably just, you know... do the rounds, probably hit up a top 14 at some point. um So Ed Med's like the natural fit for any team who needs a 10.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, that would be it.
Grumpy Old Prop: So that's that's that's all it's all.
Jarrod Dyke: That would be a
Grumpy Old Prop: That's the transitive property of where I was going. And I just flipped a and C.
Jarrod Dyke: There we go.
Jarrod Dyke: Anyway, the transitive property is
Grumpy Old Prop: Anywho.
Jarrod Dyke: um
Jarrod Dyke: boneheaded Tupo, Tanya Tupo. Listen, I fucking hate James Dolman, too. Don't swear at the guy, you moron. What's wrong with you?
Grumpy Old Prop: ah
Jarrod Dyke: Like, listen, I'm a fan.
Grumpy Old Prop: Hey, you can't...
Jarrod Dyke: I sit there and curse at the TV.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, well, you've said it. Yeah, that's true.
Jarrod Dyke: What's that?
Grumpy Old Prop: I was like, you you've you've I've heard what you've heard you talk about Dolmen, but that's...
Jarrod Dyke: I have, and i would i would happily tell him to his face that he's dog shit, but I'm not on the field where I can get penalized for it. So, that's the difference.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. going to do it. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: You dumb dumb. What's wrong with you? ah Man, frickin' McCallery must have been losing his shit. I've been like, dude, come on and The fuck?
Jarrod Dyke: These guys are already, you know, having their way with us in this app. We don't need your help doing stupid shit. Ugh. I will not buy stupid shit for no reason.
Jarrod Dyke: Oh, man.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's all I do.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. So, yeah. I wish I could do that more.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: um Anyway.
Grumpy Old Prop: It feels like it's all I do.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Moana are clearly ah an improved team this year, and it's it's it's fun to see.
Grumpy Old Prop: It is.
Jarrod Dyke: It really is.
Grumpy Old Prop: i'm umm that's That's ultimately what i might my biggest takeaway from the last couple of weeks has been. is that
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay, they're where we were hoping for them to get
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, especially the... Yeah, especially last week when they beat Crusaders.
Grumpy Old Prop: They still got to get a new kit.
Jarrod Dyke: It was a big one.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I know... Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: The one they just were just wearing or the other one?
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, the other though the red, um white, and blue.
Jarrod Dyke: Oh, the the Islander, the Islander, but the Island Warriors whatever they were.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: That one.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, no.
Jarrod Dyke: Got you. Pacific Warriors.
Grumpy Old Prop: I respect the the history of it, but...
Jarrod Dyke: That's the one I think it was.
Grumpy Old Prop: but
Jarrod Dyke: They can still do it and jazz it up a little bit.
Grumpy Old Prop: they Make it better. Yes, that's yes. Don't do that, though. Don't do that, please.
Jarrod Dyke: um um let's go Let's go over to Fiji and go to the Druid Crusaders.
Grumpy Old Prop: so
Jarrod Dyke: It was 17-0 in halftime, and I turned it off. I was like, I'm over this. Okay, bye. Because, quite frankly, the Druid aren't good this year.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's and that's kind of depressing.
Jarrod Dyke: I think that's this It is. um Yeah. It's also an accurate statement. And what... I hate to shit on him, but, like, I think one of the things that's killing him is the coach but having this constant selection rotation. Like, I can appreciate that you want to keep bodies fresh, but, like, dude, you got to have some consistency.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, it's getting bad because like Revula wasn't starting every game. Like they keep flipping him around. um the The back row is almost never the same.
Jarrod Dyke: Right. And it's like, ah there's got to be a point. There's got to be a point where it's like, what, at what point do you say, all right, and this, this is my team.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: And that's where I'm going to.
Grumpy Old Prop: Is the... I mean, they've been good. They were like, I i was hoping they'd you know be potentially a playoff team this year. and And it's not, it's, you know, and sometimes you go in the other direction You know, sometimes it's, there's down years.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: And I think that's just what they're going through. I think they kind of punched above their weight last year. They might they might be a little tired from the effort still um because none of them have done that before.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Well, not together. um
Jarrod Dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: So it's now, you know, that's what I'm wondering or or slash hoping because I really hope they they become more of a um
Grumpy Old Prop: like a serious team again because they're but again, it's more fun when these teams are good.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep. Agreed. Oh, God.
Jarrod Dyke: the This was ah shadow of the team that I've seen the last couple weeks, Hurricanes and and Blues. Like, for whatever reason, I don't know what the Blues' excuse is for finding ways to completely cock their attack up because they don't have any.
Jarrod Dyke: Like, they have Bowdoin Barrett at 10. They have two absolutely wonderful wings. And I like our guys, too, but, like, we're we're talking about guys that are you know, usual fixtures in the All Blacks and guys that are just really good players otherwise, the Blues have that.
Grumpy Old Prop: no
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: And on the other side of the coin, yeah know, Bale and Sullivan's playing out of his skin this year. I think that's fair to say. Roy Gard's obviously the first choice, number nine for the All Blacks right now.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Yes.
Jarrod Dyke: But that's really it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Kariffi's had a pretty decent year too.
Jarrod Dyke: And Dewey is playing ah another world. I don't know where the fuck this Dewey has been. i love him, and I hope he stays for a long time because that is the Dewey that I want more often than not on the pitch.
Jarrod Dyke: um But, yeah, there's just –
Jarrod Dyke: the i don't it's all it all comes down to what's going on in that 10 shirt you know and we got we got really jobbed by the way things shook out this year for things aiden morgan left so hence my he can go fuck himself um brett cameron got hurt that that was a huge one that was the biggest one without a doubt that was yeah um
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: true yeah that is that's a big one because he was playing really well
Jarrod Dyke: And now Godfrey's hurt who was growing into his role very well.
Grumpy Old Prop: mm-hmm
Jarrod Dyke: And now we have Riley. who And I am like, what is this guy doing? Does he know? Cause I don't.
Jarrod Dyke: And I'm just, I'm so extremely frustrated because this is a blues team that we, put a number on in terms of the way we played defense, but could not find offense to save our life.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah Here's my, here's my, I guess my question is, um because I feel like the Cane, and again, i'm i'm I'm not a Canes fan, so please accept this question with the ignorance in which it
Jarrod Dyke: And it was so frustrating.
Grumpy Old Prop: um but it became one.
Jarrod Dyke: sound like...
Grumpy Old Prop: um Why not move Ruben Love to 10?
Jarrod Dyke: I would be more into that than what's been happening. Although apparently this Harkin kid can can also play 10. So maybe try that. Because I'm just, i'm like I said, I'm i'm very over Hoheppa.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Just, you know, fumbling through.
Grumpy Old Prop: I just think you know it's it's it's a little bit easier to find a 15 than it is a 10.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: And I feel like Love could do it. I always felt like he... you know didn't he Didn't he actually play a 10 a couple times or am I just fucking making that up?
Jarrod Dyke: Mm-hmm. A few years ago. Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: So, and he wasn't terrible. And I remember when they moved him to 15, I was like, okay, that's a good move for him. But now he's, he's had a couple of years under him. I, I don't understand why that's not happening. Cause he like, they can, they can put some, they always have back three players.
Grumpy Old Prop: I feel like you always have capable guys and yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Putting love.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes.
Jarrod Dyke: And they have two more this year with Pony Vi and Kenny Nahalo. Like, they're they're both very good. I wouldn't argue against that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes.
Jarrod Dyke: Excuse me. um The Harkin kid was playing 15 a little bit earlier in the season, and he didn't impress me.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: So I might be willing to give him a run at 10 and see if that changes how things go for him.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay.
Jarrod Dyke: But, like... Yeah, I don't know.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: and
Jarrod Dyke: yeah It's a frustrating time to be a Hurricanes fan. I won't be shocked if we don't make the playoff, honestly. I mean, we have some favorable matchups coming up, and I think we'll we' do the job, but we'll probably end up as the last team in.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: That sucks, but Blues might be the next to last team in, honestly, because they're not playing very well either.
Grumpy Old Prop: No.
Jarrod Dyke: And I don't know what, again, i don't know what their excuse is.
Grumpy Old Prop: Well, there're
Jarrod Dyke: They have just, they have more talent than we do by far.
Grumpy Old Prop: mean they have fewer points than the hurri than the Highlanders. Sorry.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: So.
Jarrod Dyke: Who, I didn't get a chance to watch this game, but they just lost to the force.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: So yeah, take that for what it's worth.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. So, I mean, and it was force at home that, that has help. Um, and right.
Jarrod Dyke: And that's a bitch of a trip. I'll give him that.
Grumpy Old Prop: And this is the, uh, um, as the, the Spanish say, uh, uh, the year of the Tiz, um, for Tiz, Tizano, get that, get everyone out there, get that.
Jarrod Dyke: But they couldn't even...
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's been... Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Thank you. um
Jarrod Dyke: Tazano.
Grumpy Old Prop: i
Grumpy Old Prop: Tisano!
Jarrod Dyke: There you are.
Grumpy Old Prop: There we go. Thank you.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: um du they He's un-fucking-real. um I think he's we're going to see him in him in in gold the this summer. I don't think there's much of a doubt about that.
Jarrod Dyke: I wouldn't be shocked at all. Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked at all. um All right.
Grumpy Old Prop: I didn't see much of this match, but...
Jarrod Dyke: I am.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Jarrod Dyke: I caught a glance or two. i was about it.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah i i think i i kind of assumed on the gilbert try i was like i think oh and then the penalty yeah i think i saw it about the 25th minute i was like i kind of see where this game is going so i'm kind of shocked at the score but at the same time like i could see that happening too because the force did did have some opportunities and we're just kind of bottling it and kind of handing it away from from my perspective so
Grumpy Old Prop: um You know, good to see him come back. Hey, Harry Potter, Pullman scored. Okay. Yeah. Okay. When.
Jarrod Dyke: something like that scores it's like never mind
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. um He always reminds me of that Soundgarden song. So whenever I hear, you know, how George Pullman, I think Spoonman and then just gets in my head.
Grumpy Old Prop: So thanks for that too, George.
Jarrod Dyke: there you go
Grumpy Old Prop: Really appreciate it.
Jarrod Dyke: Uh, let's, um, let's do the whip around of the local, of the local teams here. Um, first off, Banshee's absolutely, ah Chicago is not good, by the way. like
Grumpy Old Prop: No, no.
Jarrod Dyke: Like, WN, WR, they're, they're bad. Like, they lost to, they lost to the Gemini week one, and then the Gemini came here and got tonked.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: And then, Tim and I went to the Bay area and got taunced again.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: So, they're not good. I'm pretty sure Denver's good, though. They absolutely blew New York. So, that'll be interesting when...
Grumpy Old Prop: ah Yes, though, the Onyx have a ridiculous. um
Jarrod Dyke: i I noticed it.
Grumpy Old Prop: The rosters.
Jarrod Dyke: I was like, that's not... They're stacked.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, it's it's not fair.
Jarrod Dyke: No. But the good news is they play... I think the only guy game the Banshees play them is is East Coast. Nope, that's a lie.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay.
Jarrod Dyke: They play both.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, damn.
Jarrod Dyke: Damn it. Damn it all. Me and my fat mouth.
Grumpy Old Prop: Can we just not?
Jarrod Dyke: Anyway.
Grumpy Old Prop: Anyway.
Jarrod Dyke: Anyway, yeah, Banshees crush 65-12 in Chicago, and Chicago's probably not very good.
Jarrod Dyke: Also, Freejack's looking more Freejack-ier. don't know if that's better if that's the right word, but yeah, much better.
Grumpy Old Prop: They free jacked all off free jacked off all over the Miami sharks.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: Um,
Jarrod Dyke: um I'm more inclined to roll well because it sounds like patra is goingnna be out for a little bit longer here
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm
Jarrod Dyke: more inclined to roll with Penny at 10 than I am with Boyle. I'm okay with Boyle in the back. That actually ended up working out pretty well.
Grumpy Old Prop: hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: um But I'm more yeah'm more inclined to let Penny play 10 if this is the type of stuff that's going to happen.
Grumpy Old Prop: I. Yeah, I thought he did a a pretty damn good job um running the team and also just being in that like, i mean, that the physicality from 10.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's one of those things that like He just put the... I can't remember who was playing 10 for Miami. Just put him on his butt like multiple times.
Jarrod Dyke: O'Leary.
Grumpy Old Prop: So...
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, if if I'm...
Grumpy Old Prop: so
Jarrod Dyke: If I'm the Miami coach, and I don't know which what one it is, but if I'm the Miami coach, I am not happy with the way this game went at all.
Jarrod Dyke: Like, they played badly.
Grumpy Old Prop: it was It was not good.
Jarrod Dyke: No, and as I'm watching, I'm like, the only thing that these guys have, like, that's moving the ball in any way, shape, or form is shithousery. That's it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes. Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: That was the only thing that was moving that was getting them to move the ball. Like, they would shithouse with us, and we'd give away a penalty.
Grumpy Old Prop: you really You really liked their five, I remember, as I recall.
Jarrod Dyke: What a twit. What a twit. Yeah, they were... They were not good, to say least.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: But like, I, yeah. And then freaking, I think it was the five that was the dumbass that threw the ball at one of our guys after, after the whole, the, it was the whole shit show.
Grumpy Old Prop: But.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes, he was. He was.
Jarrod Dyke: where There was a little dust up and summers told both teams to calm the hell down. He does that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: Like if I'm, if I'm the coach, I'm like, come here, you're on the plane back to Boston or back to Miami from here. Now, like go, go back to the hotel and go home. I would not be impressed with that at all.
Grumpy Old Prop: And. And yeah, because he threw it at um ah Q.
Jarrod Dyke: Right. It's like...
Grumpy Old Prop: At his leg. And it's like, he was like, I was just trying to spike it. And it's like, no, you weren't. Like, you just got a penalty. Like, you're not going to spike that ball. You're going to hold on. in it No, you threw it. Like, we all saw you deliberately throw it.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Jarrod Dyke: It's not hard.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Especially when got another set of eyes staring right at you. It's like, dude, really?
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Really? What's wrong with you?
Jarrod Dyke: Anyhow. But, yeah. Pre-Jax looked better. Pollock got a hat trick. Back in form. Good for him.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah is certainly that ah that that kick from Penny that that was that right at half was hmm
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Penny knew what he was doing. He was like, I'm going to put this out here for Paula and let him work. And he worked and it worked.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: And this is a good game to get that that um what Brock Webster in and and give him a little bit of a run because he might need him down the the line.
Jarrod Dyke: Do whatever.
Grumpy Old Prop: But I think a better wing would have done a lot more with the opportunities he got.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: And I want to see more from it.
Jarrod Dyke: You're probably right.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, you're probably right. Shitty wait for Wayne to end his fucking, his 50th.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, that too.
Jarrod Dyke: I mean, awesome for him. Really ah really happy for him, but like, oof, man.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Coming off HIA, passes it, comes back out again anyway. It's like, oh man. and ah Tough day. Tough day at the office for him, sadly.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. um But yeah, this year. Oh, yeah. We'll talk about it later.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Anyway. All right. So outdid themselves.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, i don't know. this was a ah week of some damn good performances and it's hard to like, this was a week of of champions for me.
Jarrod Dyke: hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: i don't really, and don't really see anybody who like totally outdid themselves except maybe Zach Ward um with the, ah like I thought everybody, like people showed up to play and it was like, i think the, you know, ultimately the more talented teams won, which kind of is how it goes, but.
Jarrod Dyke: and
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: I don't see anybody out to themselves. It was like the team, the players that that really showed up were the ones I kind of expect like, oh yeah, yes, you should be showing up. like
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, right. Well, I mean, one that comes to mind is the Mendy from Benetton.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, I
Jarrod Dyke: that's That's one that I wouldn't have had on my bingo board otherwise.
Grumpy Old Prop: know. And for some reason, I thought it was like a ah ah first I thought it was a nickname for Meninchello. i was like, no, that's not it's not it. um
Jarrod Dyke: Nope. Manichello is Manichello.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: I was just hearing the name a lot and I was like, it's by somebody doing, you know, when somebody is doing really well.
Jarrod Dyke: Shout out to the...
Grumpy Old Prop: So if he's like, oh, they're talking about Menagello because he's awesome. um No, there's different guy also doing awesome.
Jarrod Dyke: Also doing awesome. Also doing awesome. um Shout out to Arlie Hartley for playing well playing well and you know in a hostile environment. Good for him. um and Shout out to the firefighters for getting that guy down.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, yes.
Jarrod Dyke: For sure.
Grumpy Old Prop: They outdid themselves.
Jarrod Dyke: Yes, they did. What was the kid's name? Bryall from the Reds.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: He played well.
Grumpy Old Prop: He did.
Jarrod Dyke: I thought Coombs played really well for Munster as well.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes, but I kind of expect that from him, although.
Jarrod Dyke: the Irish don't seem to because they never pick him.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, but still, I expect that from him, especially at this level. I think he's a yeah, he's a I love him as a player and I don't know why Ireland doesn't. This is a play for Lundster.
Jarrod Dyke: Same. um She had it.
Grumpy Old Prop: I still feel like Dickskin did, but I'm going to save him for now. um
Jarrod Dyke: That's fine.
Grumpy Old Prop: with
Grumpy Old Prop: Shad it. I'm going all the Quinns, the one 15, one to 23. Shad it. Yeah. Fair.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: shated
Jarrod Dyke: Danny Wilson. Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: um I'll say it. Oh, HEPA for me. so Total, total spit of spit of little bit.
Grumpy Old Prop: there
Jarrod Dyke: Try like a who else. There were definitely some poo jobs on this one.
Jarrod Dyke: um oh yeah that we could just just cover this yeah like blues in general like we didn't hurricanes didn't play well and they eked it out with 19 points like i would not be happy about that if i were them um yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: No, they should be winning that by more than one point, certainly. And yeah, scoring more than 19. Yeah, all of that. That's not covering yourself in glory there. Especially because Blues were at home, right?
Jarrod Dyke: nope yes they were
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, that's...
Jarrod Dyke: yeah i thought we'd find a way to to nick it but we didn't but yeah still wasn't a good performance for them and tos the second half performance was just barf you know they just they just let moana do as they saw fit like and i know we talked about moana have been a second half beast but still like that's that it takes you to tango in that situation
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. so OK, so here's a question. Do we want to put. um ah Pollard on that list. At what point when.
Grumpy Old Prop: Leicester have the problem scoring games when like this is I thought that that you know on on its face yeah I kind of said that Glasgow have a little bit more they're bringing in a little bit more than than Leicester are but still this is a Leicester team that not that long ago won the Prem and they have a better 10 than they did then and I feel like the play has been inconsistent
Jarrod Dyke: I
Jarrod Dyke: think it's been inconsistent. I think that's a fair statement. Yeah,
Jarrod Dyke: don't know. It's, I mean, he's easily he's on his way out, so, you know, and I'm not sure.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: i don't think there's anything, any issues going on with he and Checkup by any means whatsoever.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, I'm not. Yeah, I'm not trying to say anything like that. It's just he's not he's not giving them like watching Pollard play for Lester. i would struggle to put to want him as an international 10.
Jarrod Dyke: Agreed.
Grumpy Old Prop: So that's where I'm going with Chad. It is like his this isn't just a.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Grumpy Old Prop: you know how did you play this weekend? or you know But you're you're being judged on an international level player, not just a premiership starting 10. You are for for excuse me the World Cup winner, I believe, like two times.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: like you You should be like crushing it.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. He has da is his days. There's no doubt, but you're right.
Grumpy Old Prop: He does, but they're kind of few and far between. and that's not like At this level, it should be in-my-sleep kind of thing.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: So that's just my general Andre Pollard complaint this season.
Jarrod Dyke: Um...
Jarrod Dyke: Yep, you got
Grumpy Old Prop: And with Lester in general.
Jarrod Dyke: it. Ref coaching young players. So, ref?
Grumpy Old Prop: Nobody comes to mind. Even Luke Pierce was pissing me off completely.
Jarrod Dyke: was the f freaking...
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay, how about um carl Carl Dixon for the first 75 minutes of the game?
Jarrod Dyke: for the most part, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: I thought he did an amazing job.
Jarrod Dyke: Up until that point.
Grumpy Old Prop: 75 minutes for 75 minutes. well but Yeah,
Jarrod Dyke: I didn't think Grove White was too bad for the Sale to Lose game. and that's And I don't love him, by the way, so that's me saying a lot.
Grumpy Old Prop: but there's also not, I don't see there's not much pressure on that match.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, well, mean, depends on who you ask.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's yeah, I know. I'm sorry, but I don't think there's any way sailor ever winning that game. um So it's like, I'm not sure he could have really bottled it too bad.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. ah
Grumpy Old Prop: Bad enough to affect the outcome. Like if sale won that game and, and to lose one to say, but the ref, it's like, no, fuck you, dude. Like, no, give me a break.
Jarrod Dyke: But no.
Grumpy Old Prop: Look at your lineup. Look at their lineup. No, not ref. You don't get to see ref on this one.
Jarrod Dyke: No, no, no, no. Coach.
Grumpy Old Prop: I don't really like, like again, I'm but no, nobody really stood out as a coach. I thought they'd like,
Jarrod Dyke: I'll give it to Tana.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, that's yeah. That's fair.
Jarrod Dyke: Tana Nurega.
Grumpy Old Prop: I like, no, I like that. Scratch it. Going with yours.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. um Young player. ah taught i talked to about him before.
Jarrod Dyke: The young 10 from Ulster. His name Murphy.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: um i'm
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm going to go with, because I believe he, he um I think he fits the the criteria, all the criteria.
Jarrod Dyke: The criteria.
Grumpy Old Prop: Jed Melvin.
Jarrod Dyke: Okay. All right.
Grumpy Old Prop: who I don't know if he's how young he is. All I know is like he just came to the Free Jacks last year. um think he's pretty young. um And he had a brace and set up Balacana's try.
Grumpy Old Prop: His only walk-in who was Melvin doing all the work and then be like, okay, you can finish this one rather than me do a little bit more work.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. It's 24.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Jarrod Dyke: 24. twentyf four
Grumpy Old Prop: Fair. I'm taking it. I'm i'm claiming it anyway.
Jarrod Dyke: Fair enough.
Grumpy Old Prop: I thought, you know, because he's coming, he's still, you know, still young, still learning.
Jarrod Dyke: We'll go with it.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's still brand new to the Free Jacks in a way. um But he's having hit day, certainly on um Sunday.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep. Try the week.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, the Brax try.
Jarrod Dyke: Brex. Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, you could you could pick, there's like three or four or five or so six ah candidates in the Cash Benetton match alone.
Jarrod Dyke: I think we talked about this before.
Jarrod Dyke: In that match alone. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Although, if you haven't seen the Jack Reeves try from the Free Jacks game, you're you're welcome.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes. That's yes, that's what I wanted to mention that earlier. And I was like nope, that we're holding that off um because that was a fantastic try.
Jarrod Dyke: That's worth a glance.
Jarrod Dyke: That's tough word.
Grumpy Old Prop: That was Penny. No look behind the back. He's been watching me play rugby.
Jarrod Dyke: And I asked Reeves afterwards, asked Reeves afterwards, I was like, are you were you...
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. yeah
Jarrod Dyke: did you Were you expecting that? He said, I thought was just going to be an easy pop on the inside. did not think he was going chicken wing it to me. ah He was expecting it, but he didn't think it was going to be that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: That was funny.
Grumpy Old Prop: It looked a little different, but yeah. The ball came out the same, yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, still was there for it and ready for it, so good enough. Yep. Dick of the week.
Grumpy Old Prop: Carl Dixon for the last five minutes of the...
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: of the Cass-Mediton game.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah Yeah. Oh, I got to give it to Teddy Toma. I'm sorry. Like that is, that is criminal.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, of that well yes. Yes.
Jarrod Dyke: criminal, dude. Oh, oh boy. Yeah. You got a lot of.
Grumpy Old Prop: Actually, that that type that performance right there, that that whatever the fuck that was, is the reason that we have a dick of the week. because that's
Jarrod Dyke: Oh man, that was bad.
Grumpy Old Prop: that's No, that's it. That's by your by all your teammates' multiple beers because...
Jarrod Dyke: yeah You owe them a night out, dude. That was bad. Yeah, drinks were on Teddy that night, i bet. Jesus. um Player the week.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, fuck. Who was it? Shit. Had their hat trick.
Grumpy Old Prop: I lost it. Sorry. Oh, ah Tommy Freeman.
Jarrod Dyke: Oh, Freeman. Yep, that's a good one.
Jarrod Dyke: I'm going to go Jack Crowley for Munster.
Grumpy Old Prop: um'm Not a bad one either.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm even going to shout out to Pollock for it too, because um for as much as as Freeman did to finish him, Pollock I think even set at least one of those up himself too.
Jarrod Dyke: Perfect.
Grumpy Old Prop: um Oh yeah, because he had the turnover and then immediately um tapped and went off the penalty and and got it out to Freeman.
Jarrod Dyke: Possibility, yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: That's right. Yeah, um and fed it to him.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, fuck, dude, dude.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep. to You are correct, sir.
Grumpy Old Prop: Who's doing that? who Who just does that?
Jarrod Dyke: and Henry Pollock is. Henry Pollock does.
Grumpy Old Prop: like that's That's something we we would do when we were playing d three Shithouse rugby and yeah you know in the US.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, that's true.
Grumpy Old Prop: like Fuck it. Alright, we're here. Let's tap it let's have a flanker tap and go. yeah me Good. We should see that more.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. All right. Pick them. Munster Glasgow.
Grumpy Old Prop: Leinster.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Sad. Glasgow. Good run, buddy.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. it's not That's not happening.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Bordeaux Munster.
Grumpy Old Prop: Bordeaux.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Same thing for Monster. Good job.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: But <unk> you're Irish, so it's quarterfinals and we all know what happens here.
Jarrod Dyke: Northampton cast. Yeah. It depends on who you ask, but yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: um ah Northampton Cass.
Grumpy Old Prop: Saints.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep. Big one. Rivalry in a quarterfinal. Toulon and Toulouse. It's at Toulon.
Grumpy Old Prop: um I think we all win because we get to watch this match.
Jarrod Dyke: This is true.
Grumpy Old Prop: So I'm going to say the world.
Jarrod Dyke: But other than that.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah um ah Fuck, I'm going to go with to lose.
Jarrod Dyke: Although I would be 0.0% shocked if Tulang won this.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, I. Yes, I'm not. This isn't. ah
Grumpy Old Prop: I think Toulouse are going to win. This is I'm flipping a fucking coin because it could go either way.
Jarrod Dyke: who
Grumpy Old Prop: And because these are two.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, i'm I'm just going with the guys that have won it more recently, that's all.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, but they're just so like they're both so talented. Like this is going to be like I the world wins from this game. I'll move on from that.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's that's good enough.
Jarrod Dyke: Super Rugby... Cain's Crusaders.
Grumpy Old Prop: You know, I love you, bud.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, well, i'm I'm picking the Crusaders, don't worry.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay. All right. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: um Taz Chiefs.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm not picking against the Chiefs in this one.
Jarrod Dyke: Nope, no. Taz, they're going spit they have to do a lot to redeem themselves on that one. Blues Moana.
Grumpy Old Prop: I had Eden Park.
Jarrod Dyke: Yes.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm going to go with Moana.
Jarrod Dyke: Same. Same, same. Yeah, i Blues have to figure out how to attack. Their defense is pretty good, but this Moana team finds ways to score right now.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: So, I mean, they had a forward get a hat trick last week, didn't they? So, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Sounds right.
Jarrod Dyke: They find ways to score.
Grumpy Old Prop: I
Jarrod Dyke: All right, how long does Juha?
Grumpy Old Prop: i got... I want the Druah, but i I think I'm going to go with the home team because...
Jarrod Dyke: Same, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Reds, Brumbies.
Grumpy Old Prop: Reds.
Jarrod Dyke: Same. Yeah. think the home is what's, what's doing it for me on that one.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Okay. There's that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: Okay. Thanks for listening to us. We, we had a lot to talk about, so, uh, I hope you, uh, hope you had something nice to drink while you're doing that. and But, um, yeah, we appreciate everyone for listening out there and, um, we're to try and hop over the fancy part here in a second. And if you're going to join us there, see you there.
Jarrod Dyke: If not, ah enjoy the quarterfinals, and we'll catch you guys next week your feet if we can. Have a good evening, everyone.
Grumpy Old Prop: Later.
Jarrod Dyke: Thanks a lot.
Grumpy Old Prop: later
Jarrod Dyke: Cheers.
