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Season 7- Episode 19- Danny's Big Mouth (Champions Cup Round of 16 & Super Rugby Round 8)
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It's more fun from those American rugby dopes. On this episode (a monster episode...us and our big mouths), we are talking all the points and all the things for Champions Cup Round of 16, from the Gardens, to the bizarreness of Toulouse and every in between. Then we hop on down to Super Rugby land and look at the teams that just aren't good, the players that aren't either and all the big teams that have become the real deal. Finally, the local heroes are stomping all over Chicago and Miami as we discuss the Banshees and Free Jacks big Ws on the weekend. All this, so much more, obviously, so get something to drink and enjoy fam!
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Return of the Fancy Rugby Yanks
00:00:29
Jarrod Dyke
Hey everybody, welcome back to the Fancy Rugby Yanks Podcast. My name is Jared Dyke.
00:00:33
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm Ben Glauser.
00:00:34
Jarrod Dyke
It's a return after another week of hiatus. It seems to be our schedule these days.
00:00:39
Grumpy Old Prop
You know, there was a time i was thinking about it today. um There was a time when I would feel really guilty if I'd missed even one rugby match and we were like before we potted. And now I'm at the point where I'm like, like i don't even feel guilty if we miss a week because it's like we have there's so much more to do right now.
00:00:49
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, I am way beyond that.
00:00:57
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. ah You know, having these, I mean, cause, oh yeah, you were, that's right.
00:00:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Like fly for a wedding and things like
00:01:03
Jarrod Dyke
that you you were You were doubled down. Jesus.
00:01:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:01:06
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, no, just like having the kids at the stage that are at is just, they're so fucking dependent on us. So it's like, well, we got us, we don't have a choice.
00:01:17
Jarrod Dyke
This where we are, you know?
00:01:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:01:19
Jarrod Dyke
So, so be it.
00:01:22
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah And I do not.
00:01:22
Jarrod Dyke
Such is life.
00:01:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. It's like I have so many bigger things to do and worry about.
00:01:27
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, so, um yeah, no, i I know for a fact i there's one match I just didn't bother but watching. I'm sure you can guess which one it was. um
00:01:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes, i can I can absolutely guess because I think I spoiled it for you and basically told you not to watch it.
00:01:43
Jarrod Dyke
helpful I mean, I don't know that's much of a spoiler.
00:01:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, that's true.
00:01:48
Jarrod Dyke
I'm not convinced that's a spoiler, so I'm not i'm okay with it. um Anywho, I have a beer and I want to drink it. Make
00:01:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Go for it. I do not have beer, although I want to drink it.
00:02:04
Jarrod Dyke
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Supporting Fantasy Rugby Geek
00:02:09
Jarrod Dyke
Wee.
00:02:15
Jarrod Dyke
Okay. um Make sure that you are buying a coffee or beer for our good friend, George, the fancy rugby geek. He's got another, help he's going have a big week because obviously those of you who are playing champions cup fantasy, that's, know, we're down the quarterfinals. So it's, you know, you got some decisions to make and plus he's running all the great things for the six nations game for the, for the women.
00:02:40
Jarrod Dyke
And you know, plus super rugby. Yeah. So, but he's busy. Buy him a beer.
00:02:46
Grumpy Old Prop
The man... Yeah, it doesn't stop.
00:02:48
Jarrod Dyke
No, man, was no bounds.
00:02:54
Jarrod Dyke
Uh, make sure yeah, there we go. That's the one. Um, no, I should almost skipped ahead.
Transgender Policy Changes
00:03:00
Jarrod Dyke
Uh, there is no scrimmation here on this podcast, nor should there be in sports or in life.
00:03:01
Grumpy Old Prop
We're almost there. There you go.
00:03:05
Jarrod Dyke
Um, we were talking about before we're spoiled for choice, but we're going another direction. Hmm.
00:03:10
Grumpy Old Prop
So... um so we there's no shortage of bad news. So I'm going to shift over to some good news. um So after a powerful pushback from players, coaches, and advocates, um and NCR, National Collegiate Rugby, the the USA Rugby kind of alternative um conference, has reversed course and will now follow the 2015 IOC transgender policy issued but are used by USA Rugby.
00:03:18
Jarrod Dyke
I can appreciate that.
00:03:23
Jarrod Dyke
Yes.
00:03:26
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, I did see this.
00:03:34
Grumpy Old Prop
So waivers are again being processed. I was talking about this with my wife too, and she said that like, the plan, they were just not going to act on waivers. So like, Oh, thank you. Well, you can submit your waivers, but we're just not going to do anything with them. And now they're like, Oh, okay. We'll, we'll act on them.
00:03:50
Grumpy Old Prop
And, um,
00:03:50
Jarrod Dyke
You're going to have a pile of paperwork that stacks up? That sounds like a good idea.
00:03:53
Grumpy Old Prop
right. Well, the whole thing is that it's like, they weren't going to, they weren't going to reject anyone, but they just weren't going to accept it.
00:03:54
Jarrod Dyke
Surely, though.
00:03:59
Grumpy Old Prop
And it's like, that's, but that's still discriminant. That's still right.
00:04:01
Jarrod Dyke
It's the same as ra rejecting someone.
00:04:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Exactly.
00:04:04
Jarrod Dyke
Dipshits.
00:04:04
Grumpy Old Prop
But it's not like, but it's, but that it's not the same because we didn't reject it. You see, um,
00:04:09
Jarrod Dyke
ah ah You think you're clever, you bunch of assholes.
00:04:10
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Yeah. Fuck you guys.
00:04:13
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, okay, dude.
00:04:14
Grumpy Old Prop
um And it was funny because i was I was I had. um And I was talking with um a friend of yours to Chris Muddy, who's who's one of the assistant coaches at BU.
00:04:25
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:04:27
Grumpy Old Prop
And um you're talking about it and it's like, you know, these people who aren't involved, like rugby is such a different sport anyway. um Like that's the thing that people, oh, we don't want to, ah man it's like, shut up.
00:04:38
Grumpy Old Prop
First off, that's not how it works. um There's actually like procedures to follow and whatnot. Like they're they're very well into their transition before they're even allowed to step on a pitch. And it's not, it's very, for for some of us who have known people have transitioned,
00:04:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, but that's the thing. They don't know anybody and they just stay away from it and they they so they they fear it. um But I was talking to Chris and I was like, you know, the only time I've really had an issue is um with a player in one of the, the um who I used to but coach against um when I was coaching Boston women um for for Raleigh, who had fully transitioned, basically, well, at least it seemed like fully transitioned to a man, used he, him pronouns, walked around without a shirt on, because he was like, you know, yup, and was ripped.
00:05:27
Jarrod Dyke
had the top Had the top surgery. Yep.
00:05:30
Grumpy Old Prop
So yeah, good on you. Fuck, if I had those arms, yeah, well, when I did have those arms, like yeah, I would walk around shirtless. um And it's like, that person should not be playing women's rugby. Like every, like that's the way that's to me the way, it like, but the rules that they want to set, that's what would have to happen. And I'm like, it was never safe playing against Sean.
00:05:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Like never. Oh, like once, once he really transitioned, like there was definitely a period where it was like, okay, like, he's getting a little bigger or he was always a big like and and like very strong woman and then transition to a man's like that even elevated it like that much more testosterone.
00:06:03
Jarrod Dyke
The big person. Yeah.
00:06:10
Grumpy Old Prop
It was it was yeah, that's problematic. And because like, yeah, like that's the only thing like. you know, we talk about Ilona Mar, how great she is, but there's people who'd be like, Oh, well, that's obviously a man. it's like, fuck you. It's she's, ah she's like but actually quite attractive woman.
00:06:25
Jarrod Dyke
Yes.
00:06:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, like what's your, like, anyway, good news is those people lost, which is always a good news. They, you know, so rarely do these days.
00:06:37
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, and, and the right thing won. So, um, Again, this this would be much more helpful if people just didn't discriminate from the outset, but we're just going to have to win it battle by battle and hopefully we win in the long run.
00:06:53
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, it's going be one little battle at a time, unfortunately.
00:06:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
Historical Parallels and Discrimination
00:06:59
Grumpy Old Prop
And the fucked up thing is like everybody, like the, the, the interesting thing anyways, that like, this is one of the first things that Nazi Germany did was they, um, ah attacked, uh, transgender people. And it was like a burgeoning thing. Like it was a lot like it is today in Germany back then. and And that was their first target because even like, you know, people who consider themselves themselves liberals are fully willing to throw trans people under the bus.
00:07:24
Grumpy Old Prop
That's, fucking awful as as the late great david lynch said you know you know fix your hearts or die like what the fuck did
00:07:25
Jarrod Dyke
Which is so messed up
00:07:33
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. ain't that Ain't that the truth.
00:07:36
Grumpy Old Prop
i say stephen lynch or david david lynch okay good fuck i always fuck that up because of the comedian slash yeah so i got it right think yeah no i shouldn't they're two geniuses but in very different ways
00:07:38
Jarrod Dyke
David.
00:07:42
Jarrod Dyke
yeah
00:07:47
Jarrod Dyke
You should not do that.
00:07:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Anywho, let's get to
00:07:54
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
Champions Cup Round of 16 Insights
00:07:55
Grumpy Old Prop
rugby.
00:07:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Buy our Patreon.
00:07:56
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, buy our Patreon, and I actually should be able to have the Super Rugby and Lakeshift this week.
00:07:56
Grumpy Old Prop
There's cool stuff on it.
00:08:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Nice.
00:08:05
Jarrod Dyke
All but caught up on it, so.
00:08:09
Jarrod Dyke
Okay, um yeah, Champions Cup round of 16. bar Bar one team, I don't know if I'd be unhappy with the effort from the teams in this round in general.
00:08:25
Grumpy Old Prop
I agree with that.
00:08:27
Jarrod Dyke
maybe Maybe you could make the case for Claremont, but, ah you know, meh.
00:08:31
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't know.
00:08:31
Jarrod Dyke
That might be the other one.
00:08:32
Grumpy Old Prop
i I don't know even that. I think north Northampton... And they still put up 24. like That's still a respectable score.
00:08:40
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:08:40
Grumpy Old Prop
um they didn't They didn't completely pack it in, but Northampton... that
00:08:46
Grumpy Old Prop
like It's not often that you see teams that are like, you know what They belong in this... in this in the yeah um in the quarterfinals from the premiership. It's, you know, been traditionally Saracens, who's the only one who's like, yeah, they belong.
00:09:01
Grumpy Old Prop
um Yeah, obviously Exeter had their moment for a little bit too, um when their style would would actually win. um But the Saints look like a modern Champions Cup team.
00:09:16
Grumpy Old Prop
like championship level champions cup, not just, not just entrant, not just a participation trophy team.
00:09:18
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:09:24
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, no participation trophies here.
00:09:28
Grumpy Old Prop
So that's a, that's a quality, you know, it's a quality team to go against and still put up 24 considering the rest of the scores.
00:09:28
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yeah.
00:09:32
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:09:35
Jarrod Dyke
I know. and know. Like some of the, look i mean obviously we're going to get there, but like, Ooh, the numbers were just, just a merry-go-round.
00:09:44
Grumpy Old Prop
There's some brutal games.
00:09:45
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. It
00:09:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:09:50
Jarrod Dyke
yeah it was just, they would rack up left, right, and center. It was getting, getting silly to say the least.
00:09:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. and But like, you know, or certainly um early on, like Freeman was ridiculous. um Yeah.
00:10:04
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, he brought it.
00:10:04
Grumpy Old Prop
did. Yep.
00:10:05
Grumpy Old Prop
ah and i
00:10:06
Jarrod Dyke
he He knew what he was doing.
00:10:08
Grumpy Old Prop
he really did
00:10:09
Jarrod Dyke
He had a Hattie, didn't he? Yes, he did.
00:10:12
Grumpy Old Prop
yu
00:10:12
Jarrod Dyke
Silly.
00:10:14
Grumpy Old Prop
um And Pollock, what the fuck, dude? Like, what doesn't he do?
00:10:20
Jarrod Dyke
Kids good. Kids really good.
00:10:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, he's so good.
00:10:21
Jarrod Dyke
and
00:10:23
Grumpy Old Prop
He's going like, I think it's going to be hard to to keep him off the Lions tour, to be honest. Like, the way he can move, although, you know, this is, let's back, you know, back that train up a second because this still isn't the same level, but he's shown that he can do it at that level as well.
00:10:39
Jarrod Dyke
I
00:10:43
Jarrod Dyke
i wouldn't be surprised if he's the bolter. You know, people are like, who's going to be the bolter?
00:10:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, or like, you know, he's ah and a midweek guy. Like, that's that that works for him. But also someone who it's like, you know what, if if we need him to get 20 in a game, we can put him for in for 20 and get a hell of a performance.
00:11:00
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. I think most people would agree. Yeah, the back row is just silly that they put out this week. Like,
00:11:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep. Yep.
00:11:08
Jarrod Dyke
Truck, Kemeny, and Pollock, and then, you know, Pearson's hanging out on the bench somewhere, and, like, so, and ASY's there, too. It's like, I don't even know why, like, I don't hate Tom Lockett.
00:11:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:11:19
Jarrod Dyke
I don't know why you need him on the bench, honestly.
00:11:22
Grumpy Old Prop
No, not really.
00:11:22
Jarrod Dyke
Like, between ASY and Pearson, I know ASY's preferred position is not in the second row, but he is cover, so just saying, you could do that.
00:11:27
Grumpy Old Prop
But he can do it. Yeah.
00:11:32
Grumpy Old Prop
And that way you don't even need this. You don't you don't really need the six to.
00:11:35
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:11:38
Jarrod Dyke
Agreed. Agreed. But, yeah. ah You know, it was good to see Claremont come back to this competition
00:11:43
Grumpy Old Prop
hmm.
Transgender Players in Rugby
00:11:44
Jarrod Dyke
and and get to the knockouts because, you this is this is one of their big things that they want to get back to.
00:11:50
Jarrod Dyke
And yeah they had that lull of meh-ness for a little while.
00:11:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. and
00:11:54
Jarrod Dyke
So good to see them back here.
00:11:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep. and And I enjoyed seeing Peter Gus again.
00:11:56
Jarrod Dyke
And...
00:11:59
Grumpy Old Prop
I miss him.
00:11:59
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. treated sure you did. sure sure Fiji will enjoy seeing him soon.
00:12:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Hmm.
00:12:07
Jarrod Dyke
What's that? He's stood down long enough from ABs because he ain't getting picked.
00:12:13
Grumpy Old Prop
No. No, certainly not now. But he should have been.
00:12:16
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:12:18
Grumpy Old Prop
no
00:12:18
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. I mean, they have a long list of things that they should have been doing.
00:12:24
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. um So fun fact about the next game.
00:12:31
Jarrod Dyke
ah Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:32
Grumpy Old Prop
So Jared woke me up. Not essentially. i was I was getting up and and when he texted me that it was and it was halftime of this match and saying, oh, the boys got, you know, god i had I was like, oh, shit.
00:12:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay, let me turn it on. um And what was it? I believe at half. ah believe it half
00:12:52
Jarrod Dyke
yes
00:12:54
Grumpy Old Prop
And was like, oh cool.
00:12:54
Jarrod Dyke
so
00:12:56
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm like, oh, I have to go to, mean, I have to do stuff with the baby. Like, yeah, I had a ah busy day. I couldn't just watch the second half. Um, so I turn it back on, you know, when I'm like, oh, it should be, should be just about over.
00:13:10
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, and like the salaries had just like chipped it into the, uh, into the corner. Um, And I look up the score and I see the 42 and a 27, two and a seven on the other side.
00:13:23
Grumpy Old Prop
i'm like, okay, cool. Like, this is awesome.
00:13:24
Jarrod Dyke
yeah
00:13:25
Grumpy Old Prop
they're closing Closing it out. And that was right when they, um, announced, uh, who was it? Who was man of the match? Um, and, but ah obviously it was one of the, um, the two long players.
00:13:40
Jarrod Dyke
too long players yeah
00:13:43
Grumpy Old Prop
And it might've been Issa. Um, he had a Hattie, um,
00:13:45
Jarrod Dyke
I think it was think it was actually
00:13:48
Grumpy Old Prop
And I was like, like wait, they they're like so it's so fucking French. They're the home team and they're losing by more than two tries and they're just going to give it to the ah to the hometown player. And I'm like, wait a minute. And I look up at the scoreboard and like I hear the comms talking about how it like it's just been a bloodbath the second half. And I'm like, wait, well, oh, oh, oh, that's not a 27.
00:14:11
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:14:12
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
00:14:13
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:14:13
Grumpy Old Prop
That's a so that's that's seventy
00:14:14
Jarrod Dyke
It's 72.
00:14:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Fuck me.
00:14:16
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:14:17
Grumpy Old Prop
What happened? And I'm like, i'm fine okay, I don't need to watch this game. like
00:14:21
Jarrod Dyke
No. No. I mean, first half, front line players were incredible for Saris, and I don't think anybody would take that away from them.
00:14:23
Grumpy Old Prop
I got spoiled.
00:14:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:14:34
Jarrod Dyke
And it was more, this is more that half of them. You know, we didn't get to talk about the Lester game, but like things like that are what Ben and I get frustrated with, with this team because there are capable of doing that.
00:14:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:14:46
Jarrod Dyke
Um, they put, they played brilliantly, you know, they just, they attacked with abandon that didn't give a shit about, you know, we're not supposed to be here. None of that crap.
00:14:54
Jarrod Dyke
They, you know, they, they, they attacked really well. And yeah, they kind of followed it at the end, at the end of the half by giving away two easy tries. But, um, Yeah, it was a really good performance in that first half. And, you know, I knew as soon as we got closer towards, you know middle of the second half or so, we were going to see guys leaving the pitch that had started. um They pulled Burke.
00:14:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:15:18
Jarrod Dyke
They pulled Van Sale. They pulled, they pulled Jonzo.
00:15:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:15:21
Jarrod Dyke
Like, yeah, as soon as they started pulling yeah those guys, let's see.
00:15:22
Grumpy Old Prop
OK.
00:15:26
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:15:27
Jarrod Dyke
yeah, Maui off half.
00:15:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, yeah.
00:15:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, wait. No.
00:15:29
Jarrod Dyke
while we came off at half Theo Dan came off around 60.
00:15:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Yup.
00:15:32
Jarrod Dyke
Richione came off shortly before that.
00:15:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:15:34
Jarrod Dyke
to I'm actually surprised they pulled Tiz and not the other guy any of the other guys. Andy Christie, who's still kind of working his way back from a bad injury, he came off.
00:15:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:15:44
Jarrod Dyke
Ben Sale, Burke, both off around 60-odd. You know, Goud was the one that was pulled the latest, and that was for Brandon Jackson.
00:15:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:15:52
Jarrod Dyke
um You know, Louis Johnson got a run in this competition. Michelot got a run in this competition. Some guys got run in this competition that would never have seen it.
00:15:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:15:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Harry Wilson too.
00:16:00
Jarrod Dyke
And, right.
00:16:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Like that's a, you know, he's, he's another long-term guy, but then that, yeah, like,
00:16:05
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:16:09
Grumpy Old Prop
That, you know, when when you, they're still a, they're still the salaries, right? They still have that, as you said, they have that in them. um But not this, certainly not the bench. Like this was a, you know, we you can't, maybe you look at just at the fifth the starting 15 and you're like, you know what, that's a team that could come to win.
00:16:26
Grumpy Old Prop
But then, you know, this is a game of 23 versus 23, not just 15 versus 15.
00:16:27
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:16:31
Jarrod Dyke
Of course, of course. And it's just, and so I was willing to just be like, all right, if they come in the the way they played in this, in that first half, I was like, all right, I am more than happy with this performance from these boys and whatever happens happens after that.
Saracens' Depth Challenges
00:16:47
Jarrod Dyke
And I'll live with it. And of course, you know, they had a 70 spot put on them, which hurts a little bit, but it's, it,
00:16:53
Grumpy Old Prop
That does, that part is a little Whoa Yeah
00:16:56
Jarrod Dyke
It's like, oh, oh, oh, okay. We could not do that ever again. That'd be great. But, you know, think, i mean, you look look at the kids. mean, not kids, but some of them are just you know still fairly young.
00:17:07
Jarrod Dyke
Louis Johnson's still pretty young, obviously.
00:17:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep
00:17:09
Jarrod Dyke
Hadfield's the like fourth choice hooker, and that includes Piff Lutty, who's gone now.
00:17:14
Jarrod Dyke
um Harvey Beaton, Harry Wilson, Michel O, Brandon Jackson. like Yeah, those are all babies. Apart from Gareth Simpson...
00:17:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:17:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Even Ali Hartley's not like and Hall like they're and oh Elliot like some of their starters are still Theo Dan like they're they're just coming into their own but they're still like well Theo Dan is is is in his own.
00:17:28
Jarrod Dyke
Young kids too, yeah. Yep.
00:17:37
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:17:39
Grumpy Old Prop
He's getting there. Yeah.
00:17:40
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:17:41
Grumpy Old Prop
But like still in in four or five years, these guys are going to be like, wow, these are good You know, these are good players.
00:17:41
Jarrod Dyke
He played brilliantly for that half.
00:17:49
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:17:49
Grumpy Old Prop
But you like they feel like they've been around forever? It's like, no, they were just really, really young and they got some time here or there.
00:17:56
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yeah. Apart from like carry and Simpson, that was all we had on the bench.
00:18:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, right.
00:18:01
Jarrod Dyke
That was really worthy of mention in terms of like a, ah an impact presence.
00:18:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:18:07
Jarrod Dyke
Um, the other guys could have, but the likelihood was low.
00:18:10
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, especially against Toulon, who, you know, they've been there.
00:18:10
Jarrod Dyke
Um, yeah.
00:18:14
Grumpy Old Prop
This is, like, far, far from their first rodeo.
00:18:19
Jarrod Dyke
Oh yeah.
00:18:23
Grumpy Old Prop
So.
00:18:23
Jarrod Dyke
Um,
00:18:24
Grumpy Old Prop
And then there was another game.
00:18:27
Jarrod Dyke
There was.
00:18:28
Grumpy Old Prop
um And then there was a game after that.
00:18:31
Jarrod Dyke
Say there was.
00:18:32
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah ah Well, one team showed up. First off, okay. i didn't I didn't watch this match. I'm pretty sure this is the one you did not either. um
00:18:43
Jarrod Dyke
Leinster-Quinn's match.
00:18:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:18:45
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I didn't watch that.
00:18:46
Grumpy Old Prop
No. Okay. I mean, Quinn's just...
00:18:47
Jarrod Dyke
I saw the score. i was like, nah, I'm not wasting my time with that.
00:18:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Nope.
00:18:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:18:52
Jarrod Dyke
but Here's the thing, though, and I don't know i don't know how Quinn's played.
00:18:56
Jarrod Dyke
This is a little bit of karma biting Danny Wilson because he had shit to say about the Saracens not naming a strong team.
00:18:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:19:02
Jarrod Dyke
Bruh, you named a strong team and you got humped. Like, significantly worse than we did.
00:19:02
Grumpy Old Prop
ah
00:19:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Like seriously humped. Like didn't put up a point. Didn't put up a single fucking point.
00:19:10
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:19:13
Jarrod Dyke
So, and...
00:19:14
Grumpy Old Prop
With Chandler Cunningham South, Cunningham Evans and Dom.
00:19:16
Grumpy Old Prop
You have four back rowers out there Like that's first off, I love it. I mean, you you know me about stuff like that. Like i guess put a put a six at lock. Absolutely. um Try to run them.
00:19:29
Grumpy Old Prop
Well.
00:19:30
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:19:31
Grumpy Old Prop
You know, you have to actually run them.
00:19:33
Jarrod Dyke
They do you do.
00:19:34
Grumpy Old Prop
But like, yeah, does not even put up a point with, the you know, that's a solid team.
00:19:35
Jarrod Dyke
And they didn't.
00:19:39
Grumpy Old Prop
and And I know you're playing a solid team, but come on now.
00:19:44
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, and really, there there aren't a lot of teams that would be disappointed in the way they played other than them.
00:19:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:19:52
Jarrod Dyke
And that's so... Sorry, Danny Wilson, you got what you deserved for opening your face. Okay.
00:20:00
Grumpy Old Prop
So I have, let's, look, let's try not to devolve this conversation into what it was similarly a few seasons ago.
00:20:01
Jarrod Dyke
i'm good
00:20:14
Grumpy Old Prop
oh but and This will all make sense in a second when I tell you where I'm going with it.
00:20:14
Jarrod Dyke
yeah
00:20:19
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:20:22
Grumpy Old Prop
I have a, I'm starting to come to the, the, The feeling that if you have, you know how there's team penalties or team yellow cards for just accumulation of fouls.
00:20:31
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:20:33
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:20:36
Grumpy Old Prop
It's my firm belief that props should be exempted from getting yellowed in that case.
00:20:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Because you get what we had at the end of cast Benetton. where first off, I don't think that I, I didn't see that as a high tackle.
00:20:52
Jarrod Dyke
yep
00:20:56
Grumpy Old Prop
I thought, I thought he was on the ball.
00:21:01
Grumpy Old Prop
um I thought guy Joe was, was, was like just on the ball, got underneath it, like, so or dropped his arm underneath it.
00:21:02
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:21:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, I don't think that prevented it. Like, don't think he was preventing a try with a high tackle. Like I, I just, I didn't like it. I thought he'd like the, the call that Dickskin made there was just like,
00:21:21
Grumpy Old Prop
But at the same time, Benetton had gotten on his on his nerves. they He was like, they were on his last nerve. um
00:21:26
Jarrod Dyke
Well, I think both teams really had, but...
00:21:29
Grumpy Old Prop
They really were. And so he wasn't in in the mood for nonsense. But at the same time, like, now you yellow card a prop. They've already got the the one who's out. Like, any other position, yeah, okay, we're down a man. But this is a youre this is a ah ah potentially a two-man yellow card, especially because the other you know the reserve prop had gone off injured. like
00:21:46
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:21:48
Grumpy Old Prop
I feel like there should be some special dispensation there to, so you're not in setting up that situation um where it's, it's, it's two man yellow for our, you know, not certainly not a yellow worthy offense. And I understand it's a team offense, but that's why I'm saying,
00:22:06
Grumpy Old Prop
you know, card the last guy who got enough, you know, who was not a prop. Like if the lock got it last time, okay, you know, you're off instead. Um, it's still, it's still, you're losing somebody, but you're not like potentially just completely giving up the game.
00:22:21
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I think that would just take, that would be the referee's discretion and that would be up to them.
00:22:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Um,
00:22:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, but that's what I would like. i would like to to work on that because I know it's not really a great, idea well really a well-formed idea, but it just annoyed me that it's like, oh, so the prop gets it for iffy offense and now they could go down to uncontested scrums and have to get two men off.
00:22:43
Jarrod Dyke
yeah I'm going to score it off of it.
00:22:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Which, okay, fair. Yeah, but fair. You scored off the... off off the the you know it was Ultimately, in the end, yes, there was a it was a fair scrum, not uncontested.
00:22:56
Grumpy Old Prop
um Who came on? Ferrari came on and crushed it.
00:23:00
Jarrod Dyke
Yes.
00:23:01
Grumpy Old Prop
I thought he did a great job in that scrum, as Lou said. I thought that... ah Who was it? Was it Garvisi? No, Fekitella. Just...
00:23:13
Grumpy Old Prop
backed out that was that was a feki toa problem there which is weird because he's a guy who i always thought of as as someone who was like would would unnecessarily hit people hard so what are you doing back out of that like dude this is what you do
00:23:14
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. i don't know what he was doing. don't know what he was doing. Yeah. Yeah. Right.
00:23:27
Jarrod Dyke
Um,
00:23:31
Jarrod Dyke
Well, before we get into the into the rugby, I do want to pick into similar territory where you're at. I'm not into Obama Yang is staying on this field.
00:23:43
Jarrod Dyke
Like, I'm not into Obama Yang staying on this field for dumping Rino Smith over the boards like that, like...
00:23:43
Grumpy Old Prop
And so to what?
00:23:44
Grumpy Old Prop
so
00:23:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh.
00:23:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:23:51
Jarrod Dyke
That is because I don't know what's on the other side of that board. I assume it's concrete. And if he dropped him over there, that's that could be serious, serious injury.
00:23:55
Grumpy Old Prop
What? Yeah.
00:24:00
Jarrod Dyke
So really, shame on Dixon for not like bringing him into this whole thing.
00:24:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:24:04
Jarrod Dyke
and so For me, it's a red.
00:24:07
Grumpy Old Prop
I thought so.
00:24:07
Jarrod Dyke
Because he he dumps him over the boards. He drops him. Really, if you look at it from a rugby standpoint, so he's tipped him above the freaking, you know, above the horizontal.
00:24:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
00:24:15
Jarrod Dyke
He dropped him. Like, there's no care.
00:24:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, he did.
00:24:17
Jarrod Dyke
There's no care of duty there. Send him off. um But that's just the absurdness of afterwards. It's like, guys, just stop. Just stop, please.
00:24:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:24:27
Jarrod Dyke
God, all you. All you. And I'm sure Vandenberg was big and chirpy in there because he's, you know, Sorry, South Africans, but South Africans, that you're you're good at that stuff.
00:24:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:24:36
Jarrod Dyke
So um I'm sure Zuzu was just like, yeah, I'm going to fucking kill you, dude. like And that was the end of his decision making.
00:24:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:24:45
Jarrod Dyke
He's like, all right, red mist, here we go. So that's probably why we ended up with two yellows in that situation.
00:24:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:24:51
Jarrod Dyke
But I don't think it should have been... Just that. I think you got to send the guy off that dumps Ryan Smith off the over the boards for nothing.
00:25:02
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, yeah, he wanted the ball. like It's his ball.
00:25:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:25:04
Jarrod Dyke
and they Guys are going to do that. We know that.
00:25:07
Grumpy Old Prop
right That's what I...
00:25:07
Jarrod Dyke
Is it shit is a little shithousery? Yes, it is.
00:25:09
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't...
00:25:10
Jarrod Dyke
But you know it's going to happen.
00:25:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Why does it got to be violent? Like, why does that suddenly... Like, I get it that you're there're you're annoyed by him, but that doesn't mean you just fucking assault the guy. It just means, like, okay, yeah, you you're a dick.
00:25:19
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:25:21
Grumpy Old Prop
All right. ah Like, we're not going to go quick. I'll just fuck off and we'll have our line out. Like, that's at the end of the day, that's really all it is. Like, just get the fuck over it.
00:25:31
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't understand why why people get all, you know, deucing-deucing about, like, somebody holding onto a ball when they shouldn't.
00:25:32
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:25:37
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:25:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, it's... it's just fun. And yeah it's yeah, it's fucking with you. Get over it.
00:25:44
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. I'm sorry, you just exactly did what they wanted you to do, which was react.
00:25:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. But anyway, we're we're we're talking past the the the big thing, which was the rugby in this match was fucking awesome.
00:25:50
Jarrod Dyke
Like, that's the whole point.
00:25:56
Jarrod Dyke
which was It was good. It was really good.
00:25:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Like when you actually played rugby.
00:25:59
Jarrod Dyke
it's so It's so sad there to be so much bullshit otherwise. like It was really good stuff.
00:26:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:26:04
Jarrod Dyke
I i was watching this. I'm like, these are these are not just tries. These are freaking amazing scores.
00:26:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, worldies.
00:26:10
Jarrod Dyke
This is stuff you put on a highlight reel for like a season, let alone one match.
00:26:10
Grumpy Old Prop
i
00:26:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. yep I miss Odogwu.
00:26:18
Jarrod Dyke
The O-Dog.
00:26:19
Grumpy Old Prop
He was good in this game. He was but classic Odogwu.
00:26:21
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:26:25
Grumpy Old Prop
Starting plays that ended in tries, corner zone tries because he's still got lightning speed and physical as all get out. ah he I think he smashed someone hard. I can't remember.
00:26:36
Jarrod Dyke
The winger, I think, that was out that way.
00:26:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, he he he put someone down for a bit. um Just yeah, like.
00:26:44
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, there was some good hit. Well, who lit up who who loved the guy that ended up, I think Manichello ended up scooping it up, or maybe maybe it was Manichello, and then someone scooped it up and they ended up scoring almost immediately off of it.
00:26:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, I think I think that I think it was Menacello. Yeah.
00:27:01
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I was like, ah, ow.
00:27:04
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:27:05
Jarrod Dyke
ah Man, that's that's not a comfortable hit right there.
00:27:09
Jarrod Dyke
Tell you that much.
00:27:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:27:09
Grumpy Old Prop
because that that Was that the Albornoz try? Is that how he scored?
00:27:12
Jarrod Dyke
I think so. i think so.
00:27:17
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, that was that was pretty good.
00:27:17
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:27:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Also, I thought it was fun, um if nothing else, to hear the comms talking about Jack Goodhue. And it was always like, it's Guju. Yeah.
00:27:31
Grumpy Old Prop
You can't pronounce the duh. It's ju.
00:27:33
Jarrod Dyke
I'm pretty
00:27:36
Grumpy Old Prop
ah It's Guju in there. And I'm like, what? Guju? Who the fuck is Guju?
00:27:39
Jarrod Dyke
sure that guy's Scottish and the accent is not helping him.
00:27:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, it's Guju. yeah It's not helping at all.
00:27:46
Jarrod Dyke
No. No, I don't think that was doing him any favors. But, you know, but for a team that didn't really want to be in this competition, they ended up being, you know, a pretty good...
00:27:59
Jarrod Dyke
Round of 16 hosts there, Cass did. And this is still, a and don't don't and they won't take it that way, but we should still note it. Benetton, this is a still a big step for them to be here and to knock out rugby in Europe.
00:28:15
Jarrod Dyke
So they while they wanted more, and we and really a lot of us wanted more.
00:28:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:28:19
Grumpy Old Prop
I wanted them to get more. i thought they deserved it more than
00:28:22
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:28:23
Grumpy Old Prop
um um Claremont cast to where the fuck it was.
00:28:26
Jarrod Dyke
Cass.
00:28:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Ha! That's sorry.
00:28:28
Jarrod Dyke
Cass.
00:28:29
Grumpy Old Prop
That's a throwback to inside joke between me and Jared because I called them Claremont.
00:28:33
Jarrod Dyke
but for the longest time.
00:28:34
Grumpy Old Prop
was kind no No, When I was talking about this match, I was like, oh, in the Claremont Benetton game, you you mean cast?
00:28:37
Jarrod Dyke
yeah.
00:28:41
Jarrod Dyke
oh yeah When we were talking about before.
00:28:41
Grumpy Old Prop
like Oh, yeah, yeah. That one.
00:28:42
Jarrod Dyke
Yes.
00:28:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:28:45
Jarrod Dyke
Yes. That one. um But yeah. And they, they should still, you know, they'll look back on it later on and say, yeah, this is pretty awesome.
00:28:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:28:54
Jarrod Dyke
And it's a step forward for Italian club rugby as well.
Italian Rugby's Growth
00:28:58
Jarrod Dyke
So I'm, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm filled for them.
00:28:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
00:29:00
Grumpy Old Prop
And that's a, that's a stack team in the back. I know you get like Rhino Smith. Isn't he on the little, on the older side? I'm not mistaken.
00:29:09
Jarrod Dyke
a little bit.
00:29:10
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, so it's like, you know, maybe not. Oh yeah. He's 32. That's not, you know, great.
00:29:14
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:15
Grumpy Old Prop
But I mean, three years from now, if they still, they you know, they still have Brex, Menichello, Dogwood, and Mendy. Um,
00:29:24
Grumpy Old Prop
That's a team and they still, you know, they still have some, some young forwards like, um, Lamarro still young, uh, Giuliani, same thing. luoneate Like and fuck.
00:29:36
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, we have some good things.
00:29:37
Grumpy Old Prop
It's fun to see Andy here in two. Hi, Andy. Miss you too.
00:29:40
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:29:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, and Jacob Bumaga. Yeah. They've got like, you know, they got some players.
00:29:42
Jarrod Dyke
There's some talent over there.
00:29:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:29:47
Jarrod Dyke
There's some talent, no question.
00:29:48
Grumpy Old Prop
They're going to around.
00:29:52
Jarrod Dyke
Okay, so let's go.
00:29:57
Jarrod Dyke
are we going next? Hold on, sorry, my computer's going slow.
00:30:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Stade Marcel Defong
00:30:02
Jarrod Dyke
Yes, we are. that's right God. So many things to talk about in this match.
00:30:06
Grumpy Old Prop
for the Rocky no
00:30:08
Jarrod Dyke
ah did you did First off, did you see the quote from O'Gara about Crowley? but it she He's like, cheeky fucker, a little fucker, or something like that.
00:30:19
Grumpy Old Prop
ah
00:30:21
Jarrod Dyke
with And I'm pretty sure he said that with love. I don't think he said that with Malice in any way she performed when he hit the drop goal.
00:30:23
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah oh no of course not yeah
00:30:29
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:30:30
Jarrod Dyke
I was just like, oh, God. Now he's... ah
00:30:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Well, that's what i I was like.
00:30:34
Jarrod Dyke
um
00:30:34
Grumpy Old Prop
You got to be fucking kidding me. the you You're going to you're going to. Drop those on the table like that's. Yeah, I was all all for it.
00:30:43
Jarrod Dyke
ye now he
00:30:44
Grumpy Old Prop
And I was I was hoping for La Rochelle to win. And I was still like, you know what? No, that's like you've turned my loyalty at 68 minutes. like That was really. Yeah.
00:30:57
Grumpy Old Prop
you know classy, cheeky bastard move. and like I gotta to respect that. I
00:31:01
Jarrod Dyke
You cheeky bastard. Yeah, it was, man, this was just, while there wasn't, no, don't think they did either.
00:31:08
Grumpy Old Prop
i also don't think Laura Rochelle played all that well.
00:31:11
Jarrod Dyke
And I think O'Gara would first to tell you that.
00:31:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. I mean...
00:31:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. And I'm not, i don't I don't even think honestly monster played all that well. Like this was, I think the the most poorly played match of the of the weekend from, on you know, ah for both sides.
00:31:29
Grumpy Old Prop
um And I think just somebody had to win. Ultimately that's, that's the only reason that any, either of these teams won this match.
00:31:37
Jarrod Dyke
and it was But it The atmosphere and just the the the the the the the...
00:31:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, tense as motherfucker.
00:31:45
Jarrod Dyke
The tension was...
00:31:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:31:47
Jarrod Dyke
God, you could you cut it through with a sword. Like, shit It was really, really... i was glued to this match and Lachlan's trying to crawl all over me and I'm just like, kid, you gotta take a seat.
00:31:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:32:00
Jarrod Dyke
Like, you don't understand what you're missing.
00:32:02
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:32:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:32:03
Grumpy Old Prop
And yeah, and and same, like I'm not saying, I'm not saying that it wasn't entertaining. It's just that this was the, like, if any, either of these teams played pretty much any other team in this competition this weekend, they'd lose.
00:32:17
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, that might be true.
00:32:17
Grumpy Old Prop
That's my take on this match.
00:32:19
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, it just was such a slog, the whole thing.
00:32:20
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:32:22
Grumpy Old Prop
like they they were yeah There was some good play by Rochelle. They just weren't finishing, and then Munster just like you know kept chopping. it wasn't you know They kept getting opportunities and and then eventually took advantage of them.
00:32:36
Grumpy Old Prop
It was pretty you know pretty regular scoring from on their part, really. like you know Nine minutes in, 24, 41.
00:32:41
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:32:41
Grumpy Old Prop
So really, it's about... forty one so really it's about you know
00:32:47
Grumpy Old Prop
you know, 15 to 17 minutes every, you know, um yeah every score. And then, and yeah, you just keep putting up the points and you win. And then La Rochelle, finally, it wasn't until like, you know, so yeah the late in the match when they actually like, you know we really want to win this game.
00:33:04
Grumpy Old Prop
And they just didn't have enough.
00:33:07
Jarrod Dyke
and Teddy Tumat didn't want him in this game.
00:33:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh my God. What do you, dude, honestly, honestly,
00:33:12
Jarrod Dyke
What a total buffoon. He owes the whole team a freaking rack of beer. Like, oh my god, that was terrible.
00:33:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, I had seen um someone did spoil it on the um the Blue Skies for me, where it was ah like, Teddy Tomah did not score on this play.
00:33:25
Jarrod Dyke
The social medias.
00:33:30
Grumpy Old Prop
And it was like the picture of him like having the ball and the people are still coming out to it And it's like, are you fucking kidding me?
00:33:36
Jarrod Dyke
Those were front rowers, by the way.
00:33:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Like, you can like can't tell me that.
00:33:38
Jarrod Dyke
So remember this. Don't try and cut back on front rowers because that's what they're hoping you're going to do.
00:33:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:33:44
Jarrod Dyke
you kidding me?
00:33:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Yeah.
00:33:45
Jarrod Dyke
they're all They don't want to chase you down. They're just like, please come back this way like an idiot.
00:33:49
Jarrod Dyke
And he he just obliges them. Like, you moron.
00:33:49
Grumpy Old Prop
and the can
00:33:52
Grumpy Old Prop
And the comms are talking about what great defense, and it's like, no, no, that defense was awful.
00:33:52
Jarrod Dyke
Ugh.
00:33:57
Jarrod Dyke
Eventually they rinsed him for it.
00:33:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Right, but it's like, oh wait, no, all you had literally all he had to do was take like two steps to the left, and then he's running to the corner, and nobody's nobody is catching him.
00:34:06
Jarrod Dyke
All he's got, he would just fall over. Like...
00:34:11
Grumpy Old Prop
ah Yeah, he owes all the people, all the things.
00:34:17
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, oh, big time. Big time. Let's go to the Scottsdale. Glasgow and Leicester. ah Not ah Yeah, this did get away in the second half, unfortunately, a little bit. And I don't think it's...
00:34:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Well, ah that's...
00:34:32
Jarrod Dyke
it's not down to Lester playing that ballet Glasgow. We're just, they were feeling it. They were feeling themselves big time.
00:34:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. there's just a Again, it's that 23 versus 23.
00:34:43
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:34:44
Grumpy Old Prop
And, you know, one team's putting Finn Karnedoff out there.
00:34:51
Jarrod Dyke
Who I like, but, but.
00:34:52
Grumpy Old Prop
But yeah, and the other one's putting Rory Darge out there.
00:34:52
Jarrod Dyke
Hmm.
00:34:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:34:56
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Comparing, comparing the two of those that you've, you know, um yeah.
00:34:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:35:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. And I'd take Cantillaria over Woodward.
00:35:00
Jarrod Dyke
Tom Mann's,
00:35:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Like there's, yeah, there's,
00:35:04
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, the show penis.
00:35:08
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, you know, don't disrespect the Shilpinans, but, but yeah.
00:35:11
Jarrod Dyke
I don't, but at the same time, like there's still point where i'm just like, nope, don't need that.
00:35:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. And, you know, the ever-present Ben Youngs, who is just not what Ben Youngs used to be. So, and he came on he came on early, too.
00:35:23
Jarrod Dyke
And hasn't been for a while.
00:35:25
Grumpy Old Prop
56, like, they just emptied the bench at, like, you know, mid-50s.
00:35:26
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:35:30
Grumpy Old Prop
And it's like, that was, again, same thing. Just not, in the attack like, same as kind of the salaries. Like, not an attempt to win.
00:35:39
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, and
00:35:43
Jarrod Dyke
Glasgow just, they were looking, every time someone touched the ball in the back line especially, it looked like they were going to have a problem. And just, blessed we're having probably really it was Glasgow's own execution that made this score not uglier than it was.
00:36:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:36:01
Jarrod Dyke
I think that's fair to say.
00:36:03
Grumpy Old Prop
But I mean, you look at that back line. Yeah, you Radwin and Hussle, but like I'm looking at that center combination. I'm like, neither of them are world beaters. So just take advantage of that because.
00:36:13
Jarrod Dyke
Kelly has taken a huge drop off. Like he was on the Ascension and just somewhere in there last couple of years, just, you know, has hit the skids big time.
00:36:17
Grumpy Old Prop
hmm.
00:36:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:36:25
Jarrod Dyke
And I, I, I feel for him at the same time, like kid, you ain't that good.
00:36:29
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:36:30
Jarrod Dyke
Sorry. You know,
00:36:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, seriously, get good. You were you were on the track. i don't know what the hell happened, but whatever you've been doing the last like two two and a half seasons, do what you were doing this season and a half before that.
00:36:43
Jarrod Dyke
Well, he's he's on his way out. He's heading to Munster, I think.
00:36:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. um Yeah, that'll help them.
00:36:51
Jarrod Dyke
Maybe. Hey, well, he's going to play for your guy.
00:36:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:36:55
Jarrod Dyke
McMillan. So that'll be interesting. Anywho, let's go... Let's go Sunday. Interesting things all over. We'll start in Bordeaux first.
00:37:08
Jarrod Dyke
ah um Yeah, you know... Ulster were the only team that got into this knockout having only one win. It was a nice win, but they only had one win.
00:37:21
Jarrod Dyke
they add I think they had one other bonus point as well to go with it, maybe two. um And that's it. You wouldn't have known it, though. like they were They were going for it. They really were.
00:37:33
Grumpy Old Prop
They were. And they got, they got Zach Ward two tries.
00:37:33
Jarrod Dyke
and know they got it they got one late to make it look a little more interesting, but...
00:37:40
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:37:41
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, the Zach Ward, like, I don't know. I was, it was one of those, I was completely unimpressed with his play. And it's like, then he scored, he got like, know, lucky, a couple of lucky bounces, but it's like, Hey, they put him in the position to do it.
00:37:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, They tried, right?
00:37:57
Jarrod Dyke
Yes.
00:37:58
Grumpy Old Prop
That's what happens. with i what i'm Where I'm getting at is that's what happens when you try. Sometimes, like, Zach Ward gets a brace. like Okay. It makes sense that that a Timony would get on the board.
00:38:05
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:38:09
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:38:09
Jarrod Dyke
Timoney makes sense, totally. like
00:38:10
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:38:11
Jarrod Dyke
Not sure about Tommy O'Toole, but, you know.
00:38:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:38:16
Jarrod Dyke
But, yeah, I mean, there were there was a lot of good stuff going on in this in this team, and, yeah, there was there' was a good old prop try in there.
00:38:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Well, you know, good could tight head prop try, yeah. Actually, two good tight end prop tries because Tamifuna had won himself.
00:38:25
Jarrod Dyke
Tamifuna, yeah. Yeah,
00:38:27
Grumpy Old Prop
But at the same time but same time, Adam Coleman scored in this game. So it's like, okay, on one hand, yeah.
00:38:31
Jarrod Dyke
yeah this game became a real one when that fucker scored. I was like, never mind.
00:38:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. like that that After that, it made sense that Ward scored twice. because I think he scored twice after um Coleman had scored once. because Coleman came off early.
00:38:42
Jarrod Dyke
That might be true.
00:38:43
Grumpy Old Prop
So
00:38:46
Grumpy Old Prop
so yeah, it was already that game before... um Yeah, Coleman scored early. He scored... thought Luke who just owned this game.
00:38:54
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, you got the second or third one.
00:38:56
Jarrod Dyke
i don't remember which one.
00:38:56
Grumpy Old Prop
As well, like.
00:38:56
Jarrod Dyke
There you go.
00:38:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Sport team is another that like.
00:38:59
Grumpy Old Prop
so he scored the garbage time tries
00:39:01
Jarrod Dyke
Garbage time, but they still count.
00:39:01
Grumpy Old Prop
so there you go really was yeah exactly um
00:39:07
Grumpy Old Prop
i thought lukeu just owned this game
00:39:10
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, he played really well.
00:39:10
Grumpy Old Prop
as well
00:39:11
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:39:14
Jarrod Dyke
Tons of good out of him.
00:39:15
Grumpy Old Prop
bordeau team is is another one that like yeah to watch because Moe Fauna was massive and well, i like literally and figuratively and Pino is just Pino.
00:39:25
Jarrod Dyke
Yes. Yeah. um A word on Jack Murphy, because it seems like they have yet another young 10 that's developing quite well.
00:39:38
Jarrod Dyke
um they They brought in... Joke's on you, Aiden Morgan. You shouldn't have left us, Dick.
00:39:43
Jarrod Dyke
um They brought in Aiden Morgan to try to to fill in the 10 shirt because they going to have anybody because Burns was leaving.
00:39:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:39:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:39:52
Jarrod Dyke
And then this young... you know Another really good 10 coming through higher system comes in, and he's ah he's looking pretty slick every time he he's got a hand on ball in hand, especially front football makes you look real good, obviously.
00:39:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:40:08
Jarrod Dyke
um When they got it, he didn't look like he... was lost He didn't look like he didn't belong. He looked like he was the part. So i I got to give him a ton of credit.
00:40:20
Jarrod Dyke
And, you know, playing a tough place like that, like this is is not a cakewalk that he just went into. You know, this is ah you this is the top team and in Europe in terms of the how they finished in the pool play.
00:40:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:40:33
Jarrod Dyke
And, you know, the superstars that are playing in this team just roll off the thumb. You know, Tamifuna, Diaby, Petty, Samu, Luku, Carberry.
00:40:45
Jarrod Dyke
uh moifana pano burros and they still didn't have blbra and you know guys coming off the bench like jali bear like yep okay this this is the real deal so if he can hang with that i think i'll start something good there and aiden morgan you can go fuck yourself dude
00:41:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
Emerging European Rugby Teams
00:41:05
Jarrod Dyke
uh anyway uh but yeah i mean bordeaux
00:41:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Shocking sentiment from you.
00:41:09
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yeah. Well, considering how we'll talk about all the Hurricanes played this weekend, too.
00:41:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:41:13
Jarrod Dyke
So that that didn't help me. I didn't help my thought process in my mood at all.
00:41:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:41:19
Jarrod Dyke
ah um But yes, this sport of team is going be a motherfucker stop. And that's what even without Louis BWI, like Jesus.
00:41:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, right?
00:41:29
Jarrod Dyke
And, you know, Jelly Bear was just coming back. I think he's just coming back to health. That's why he didn't start.
00:41:33
Jarrod Dyke
But, like, jeez. Like, yeah yeah. You take off Joey Carberry, who's a class act in his own right, and pull that guy on.
00:41:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:41:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:41:43
Jarrod Dyke
You're like, mother. And I think he came off a little banged up. And that's why they brought up. They were like, you know what? We don't need you. we We have Jelly Bear. You're you're good, kid.
00:41:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, you're you're good.
00:41:51
Jarrod Dyke
Come sit. And it's like, yeah god damn it. Why? Yeah.
00:41:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:41:58
Jarrod Dyke
Somebody tell me why.
00:42:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, Carver came off at 46. So that was a, yeah.
00:42:05
Jarrod Dyke
yeah That's another one for sure. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, who goes to Bordeaux this week? Munster?
00:42:15
Grumpy Old Prop
um Oh, I lost it. Oh, I didn't. um Shoot. Go the right way. um Yeah, Monster goes to Bordeaux.
00:42:26
Jarrod Dyke
Okay. That'll be... That should be interesting, at least.
00:42:34
Jarrod Dyke
And then... start to lose
00:42:39
Jarrod Dyke
We had a show before the yeah the show. we had We had an opening act.
00:42:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh my gosh. Did have an opening act though.
00:42:45
Jarrod Dyke
Those that didn't, so some of you didn't get to see this.
00:42:47
Grumpy Old Prop
A daredevil.
00:42:48
Jarrod Dyke
but Yeah. So you didn't get to see this, but they, you know, as poorly as flow is, this was the upside is they just didn't turn the cameras off for any way in the on that international feed, which was what we get over here.
00:42:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:43:01
Jarrod Dyke
So they just kept rolling. I turned the game on. I'm like, I think it was Ugo Mala. That was just like ah looking up and talking, or maybe it was Sanderson. I don't remember who it was. It was one of the coaches. And I was just like, and they're up and they're pointing over there and they're talking. And I'm like,
00:43:15
Jarrod Dyke
Where the hell's the game?
00:43:17
Grumpy Old Prop
but
00:43:17
Jarrod Dyke
but And then they flash to this poor fella hanging from his parachute.
00:43:19
Grumpy Old Prop
and
00:43:22
Jarrod Dyke
I'm like, oh shit, we have a problem. I
00:43:25
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah They tried to tried to to put out a bouncy castle for him.
00:43:27
Jarrod Dyke
um
00:43:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, you're like, Casey falls.
00:43:31
Jarrod Dyke
a i mean, just on the off chance, it came loose and he fell, which obviously would have been horrible, but like,
00:43:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, yeah.
00:43:38
Grumpy Old Prop
horrible right it's it's no he's okay so it's hilarious okay that's that's how this works he's okay so we are we all have to laugh at it um or we all can laugh at it um you don't have to i'm not gonna make you if you don't want to but i'm gonna because it's funny to me
00:43:43
Jarrod Dyke
Yes, he's okay, so we can have a laugh at it. Absolutely.
00:43:57
Jarrod Dyke
It was like, what is this? like yeah like you can't make it up. I was like, this is bizarre. This is one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen.
Pre-Game Parachute Incident
00:44:06
Jarrod Dyke
It was just the littlest bit of his fucking parachute that really got caught.
00:44:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:44:12
Jarrod Dyke
Everything else um was loose. Sorry. I couldn't believe it. i was like, oh, my God, what is going on here? Yeah. yeah And the that is the loudest cheer those firefighters will ever, ever get to.
00:44:26
Jarrod Dyke
That is their moment. That is their moment right there.
00:44:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Maybe. i don't know. Firefighters do some really cool shit at protests in France. So I'm not going to...
00:44:35
Jarrod Dyke
maybe Maybe not.
00:44:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, it might might not be the their biggest cheer. but Actually, no, probably because that's, you know, tens of thousands of people cheering them on.
00:44:41
Jarrod Dyke
Well, you got, let's say, yeah, you got like 30,000 people cheering for you.
00:44:43
Grumpy Old Prop
So, yeah, that's a little different.
00:44:45
Jarrod Dyke
And, you know, they they the guy got on the PA and was trying to, you know, do the same thing they do for the tries and stuff. That was pretty good. was like, all right, this is this is cool for them. But, yeah, so thankfully he's okay.
00:44:58
Jarrod Dyke
No big deal. But 45-minute delay later, and there was some rugby.
00:45:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Which was funny because I was doing grocery shopping at the time.
00:45:02
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:45:04
Grumpy Old Prop
I had to take i had to like i only had a brief amount of time, so I had to like cut out on the last bit of the last game. And then I was right, I'll miss the first bit of this game. And nope, I didn't. I was so well in time.
00:45:14
Jarrod Dyke
No. Someone saved you.
00:45:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Thanks, dude. Thanks for taking one for the team. um
00:45:24
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, this is like and this was not nearly not nearly as close as the score line makes it look.
00:45:32
Jarrod Dyke
Well, yes. and no I mean, i think the scoreline might flatter to lose a little bit because I think they were...
00:45:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, I was thinking, I mean, I thought they, I thought they controlled it really well. It's just, they weren't scoring until they, you know, started putting them down, but
00:45:47
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I mean, they they were a little, I mean think we we can all admit they were a little clunky in the first half.
00:45:52
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah. Yeah. That's fair.
00:45:55
Jarrod Dyke
And and and
00:45:55
Grumpy Old Prop
mean, they let, they let James score. Are you fucking kidding me?
00:45:58
Jarrod Dyke
no, they let Johnny Hill score.
00:46:00
Grumpy Old Prop
That's true.
00:46:01
Jarrod Dyke
And I know it was later on, but like, or not that much later on, but like, yeah, when that fuck bag scoring, like, yeah, all right, that, that, that, no.
00:46:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Fuck. No, it was. Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:12
Grumpy Old Prop
and And you can see, you can see that's the time when they're like, you know what? Fuck this shit. Let's go. Cause they scored every point after that.
00:46:20
Jarrod Dyke
Yes. Yeah. And I mean.
00:46:25
Grumpy Old Prop
But that's, i think that's what I mean. Like if, if they had just decided to play like that from the start and just be like, you know, they would have crushed it.
00:46:32
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:46:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Cause they just were scoring tries for fun. Like every couple minutes.
00:46:37
Jarrod Dyke
By the end. Yeah. By the end.
00:46:39
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. But the they remember Robux try got chalked off barely like.
00:46:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Um,
00:46:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:46:45
Jarrod Dyke
this It would have been an interesting game if that had held up. And i'm looking it, I'm like, oh man, it was by the slightest of inches.
00:46:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Well, then he should have stayed in. should have stayed in play. That's all you want to.
00:46:55
Jarrod Dyke
Man.
00:46:55
Grumpy Old Prop
You want to score a try, keep your heel up or, or you know, he did a good job of of getting that the foot up out of touch before he caught the ball. But then the second, the next foot.
00:47:05
Jarrod Dyke
The second one came down, and he had been touching it.
00:47:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, that was that was pretty clearly in touch.
00:47:08
Jarrod Dyke
I was like, oof, so close, man.
00:47:10
Grumpy Old Prop
I thought. But it's also one of those that it was like, I thought it was clear, but at the same time that what I think is clear isn't what they go by.
00:47:13
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:47:19
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:47:19
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:47:20
Grumpy Old Prop
So I was like, i don't know if that's enough to overturn it, but look, you know, in the end, I think it was.
00:47:23
Jarrod Dyke
It ended up being there, yeah.
00:47:25
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:47:26
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, yep.
00:47:27
Grumpy Old Prop
They got there eventually.
00:47:28
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. So, in the and in the end, you know we talk about the quality of Bordeaux, obviously the quality of Clues.
00:47:36
Grumpy Old Prop
hmm.
00:47:36
Jarrod Dyke
just as much, if not more so, you know, starting with the whole front row, the pack just the whole pack, you know, Jack Willis, who's going to probably be on the plane to Australia this summer.
00:47:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:47:47
Jarrod Dyke
um Yeah. yeah Are they missing DuPont? Yes. Like this would have been, this would have been 50 if DuPont was in but at the same time, they have more than enough talent to take this, take this,
00:47:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:47:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes.
Toulouse's Dominance
00:48:04
Jarrod Dyke
tournament should they desire to and you know pull their heads out of their backsides to make sure they play properly but I think they'll be okay yeah Kapuazzo getting getting scored getting wheeled off after scoring a fucking worldie
00:48:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. I think they'll be just fine. Um... Even I'm just worried.
00:48:24
Grumpy Old Prop
That's my that's my biggest concern with him now is what happens there. That was weird. Let's put it that way. It didn't look like it was, which means it was probably of like a but and actually a broken ankle, which is, you know, kind of it sucks.
00:48:32
Jarrod Dyke
there's innocuous as hell
00:48:39
Jarrod Dyke
sucks maybe maybe
00:48:40
Grumpy Old Prop
But at the same time, it's a little bit of karma for all the ankles he breaks.
00:48:45
Grumpy Old Prop
I was just thinking about that because was like, you know, because i I saw him like twist, you know, holding his ankle afterwards. And I was like, he like, he dodged you. He dodged you. He dodged you. He dodged you. And now he's going to end up with, he's going to be the one with a broken ankle.
00:48:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Like for real, like, yeah,
00:48:59
Jarrod Dyke
doesn't seem right
00:49:00
Grumpy Old Prop
but yeah not Not at all. Yeah. yeah And especially because it wasn't one of those, you know, years that could happen to anybody that your as you're scoring a world. you like, you know, yeah the anybody could have done that to get to that point, obviously.
00:49:14
Grumpy Old Prop
um But no, just the the falling over while getting tackled, like someone landing on you wrong could happen to anybody. And it sucks. I don't know what they're going to do with without him. Exactly. i don't know who I don't know enough about their roster to know who.
00:49:26
Grumpy Old Prop
um who they might have but I'm sure they have someone fucking good so who cares they're gonna be he's alright
00:49:30
Jarrod Dyke
like Juan Cruz Malia
00:49:35
Jarrod Dyke
yep they'll pull him in they'll pull in know I think Matisse Lebel did not play in this game like I'm pretty sure I saw him
00:49:41
Grumpy Old Prop
oh fuck that's right i was like that's what I was like there's somebody else that I'm missing here um yeah okay yeah
00:49:46
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was walking around their locker room healthy, so I think he might be coming to the team this this coming week here. So, yeah, Godspeed to everyone else out there.
00:49:56
Jarrod Dyke
Good luck, everyone else.
00:49:57
Grumpy Old Prop
And Tom Curry came off early. And I, for some reason, I don't remember that happening.
00:50:02
Jarrod Dyke
He did. and
00:50:06
Jarrod Dyke
ah It was ah china just like was very quick. like he was was brought off for... i think it was a head injury that he failed.
00:50:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay. was that It must have been, I guess. um yeah I figured that, but I didn't i somehow missed it.
00:50:20
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:50:25
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:50:26
Grumpy Old Prop
um mostly because it was just me with the baby. So I can't believe I missed something like that.
00:50:32
Grumpy Old Prop
um Because I was just like, I remember by the end thinking like, I don't, you know, kind of as I predicted in a pregame text to to Jared, like I expected to see a lot of Jack Willis and really not much of either Curry.
00:50:33
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:50:45
Grumpy Old Prop
And you know, because later in the match, I'm like, I haven't seen Tom Curry in a while. um i haven't seen him do anything. I haven't seen Ben Curry doing much of anything like,
00:50:55
Grumpy Old Prop
and there's Jack Willis just sitting there
00:50:55
Jarrod Dyke
To Ben Curry, that would be that would be ah that would be ah burn. But to Tom Curry, that is factual because you haven't seen him for a while.
00:51:04
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah I didn't I hadn't seen him in a while right um so that makes sense as to why I was wondering where the Currys were um like I would see Ben every so often but not anyway not the way Jack was playing yeah like he this is i oh my god
00:51:16
Jarrod Dyke
Jack Willis ate it all.
00:51:19
Jarrod Dyke
No, let's be honest. It's me off with that. Hey, at all. Let's be, let's be really honest about this.
00:51:24
Grumpy Old Prop
He really, he did, and he um somehow ran with it. like i think you're supposed to wait 30 minutes before doing that. Yeah.
00:51:33
Jarrod Dyke
I would wait a lot longer if I did, if I had eaten that much carry.
00:51:35
Grumpy Old Prop
but yeah you Right.
00:51:37
Jarrod Dyke
That's for sure. Like that stuff doesn't agree with me to begin with. So me running with that stuff. Ah, not a good idea. going pick one. One of those jackass videos.
00:51:49
Jarrod Dyke
All right. um Let's go to the Supers.
00:51:55
Jarrod Dyke
um Yeah. Let's talk about scorelines that might flatter our team a little bit. Reds played well in this game. And i was i was watching this game at work while i was doing it while I was doing some work.
00:52:07
Jarrod Dyke
And people were just like, you're you're into this game. I'm like, yeah, sorry. I'm not trying to be an asshole.
00:52:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:52:14
Jarrod Dyke
um But it was interesting, to say the least. um Yeah. I mean, Chiefs eventually showed their class and and and took over. But, man, I was like, all right.
00:52:25
Jarrod Dyke
So Reds are for real. Like, don't don't doubt that.
00:52:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Oh, no, no, no. I didn't doubt it going in. I wasn't like completely. It's not like I was completely confident about it. But at the same time, it it does depend on which Chiefs team shows up, especially when ah certain someone is at 10.
00:52:43
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:52:44
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:52:45
Grumpy Old Prop
But I will also say um he's getting better at it.
00:52:51
Grumpy Old Prop
like he's doing a lot less of the stupid stuff that he'd been doing. Like there's a lot less a DMACC. Like that's one of the ones you, you know, don't try to be like cute on. He's, he's kind of putting a little bit of the cuteness away and, and making better decisions with it. And I think that's, he's really guiding the team more as a 10.
00:53:08
Grumpy Old Prop
So good on you for taking the step forward.
00:53:12
Jarrod Dyke
So i can only I can only help them, say the least, which is terrifying.
00:53:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Um,
00:53:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Because it's also like he's it's it's a little bit of trust in his teammates. Like, yes, DMACC, we know you can do a lot of cool shit, but you know who else can? um All five of the people outside you, plus the guy inside the the the guy inside you.
00:53:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, you have you have seven people out here who can all do cool shit.
00:53:31
Jarrod Dyke
Yes.
00:53:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, let's let's let them do it.
00:53:36
Jarrod Dyke
it's all Let's all share the wealth, shall we?
00:53:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:39
Jarrod Dyke
Um... If I'm, and maybe I'm wrong on this, but just watching that game, um um if I'm less kissed, I'm not sure I'm going to start McLaughlin Phillips at 10 if I can help it again.
00:53:52
Jarrod Dyke
and know you need to give Linus some time to not get too banged up, and you're probably going to fully rest him one day, so you will have to play this. But I was extremely unimpressed with him. Kicking off the tee was not good, like,
00:54:09
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, for all the good things Reds were doing, he was not a part of a lot of it.
00:54:09
Grumpy Old Prop
But also like
00:54:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Right and also why Why would you choose this match to do that
00:54:18
Jarrod Dyke
Would not be my choice.
00:54:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Like, although, you know, maybe, maybe the thought is, and I, cause I always go with this. What if the Reds are setting this up for um ah finals?
00:54:34
Grumpy Old Prop
So they're trying to see what, I mean, this is, this could, this is pretty much the chief's best lineup. I don't think that there's like, you know, except for maybe rambling, honestly,
00:54:47
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, maybe.
00:54:48
Grumpy Old Prop
I, if, if in a, in a finals, I could see this, you know, one, one to 22 being the team or, you know, obviously maybe not, maybe not Brody, Brody McAllister at hooker, but, um, you know generally speaking, um, this is right.
00:55:04
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, you probably swapped the two hookers there, but that's it.
00:55:08
Grumpy Old Prop
That, but that's it. Um,
00:55:13
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah, I, you get a look at him. You see, put in your young guy, like let, you know, one of your young guys, let him get a look at it. Um, see what it's like at this level. Um, just in case, what if, what if something happens to line up the rest of the, you know, the rest of the way and you still need McLaughlin Phillips to, to carry the load.
00:55:29
Grumpy Old Prop
And, um, yeah.
00:55:30
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. I'll have to do some growing up if that happens.
00:55:35
Grumpy Old Prop
So, and so, you know, and maybe that's not their starting 13 really, but other than that, this is a pretty good, uh,
00:55:41
Jarrod Dyke
I like him a lot though.
00:55:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:55:44
Jarrod Dyke
Pakeho, yeah.
00:55:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay. Sorry.
00:55:46
Jarrod Dyke
I like him a lot. I think he's really like i think he's really like The first game that he played, I thought I was really impressed. i was like, all right, there's something here for this kid. So they got something there. So I would, you know, when you don't need to play, you know, Luke and Paisami you don't or you can't, then he's not a bad option.
00:56:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:56:07
Jarrod Dyke
OK,
00:56:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:56:10
Jarrod Dyke
let's go to North Harbor. Taz Moana and started off well for Taz and that second and a half came and oof.
00:56:23
Jarrod Dyke
ah we'veve We've seen the memes, but like Moana's second half is a different animal. And they showed
00:56:31
Grumpy Old Prop
vi Yeah, they're like when they when they can put it together and when they just say, you know what, fuck it, we're going for it. um It's really hard to to stop them.
00:56:43
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:56:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Especially when they're at home.
00:56:46
Jarrod Dyke
There's two backs that have...
00:56:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Or especially when you're on the road, at least, you know.
00:56:51
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, don't don't go sleeping on them when you're yeah just because you're up in wrong place to do that.
00:56:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:56:56
Jarrod Dyke
um There's two backs for Moana that have really taken big steps forward for me, and just this game emphasized it. Not that I didn't notice it before, but just really emphasized it.
00:57:07
Jarrod Dyke
Pellegrini, number one. and He's taking the starting 10 job from... Garden Bashup, that says a lot because I think he's a pretty quality play. And William Havili has really upped his play this season for them. And I think the switch to 15 has helped him a lot as well.
00:57:28
Grumpy Old Prop
I think that's that's exactly it. I think because of like i think it's the the the those two things in concert, like because Pellegrini is playing so well, you can put Havili back at 15.
00:57:31
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:57:34
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:57:39
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm. Yep.
00:57:40
Grumpy Old Prop
And, um
00:57:44
Grumpy Old Prop
you know, and Tawala too being in there to help guide like from the insides. And now you've got Havili um and Danny Tawala as both who can kind of step in at at at a first receiver if they have to um and also provide guidance on the run. It's yeah, that's that's good shit.
00:58:02
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:58:03
Grumpy Old Prop
And it's it's paying off.
00:58:03
Jarrod Dyke
A couple of former free Jacks playing in this game too. Play it in a center. Maybe.
00:58:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, yeah. I like Paya.
00:58:12
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I did too. But when he signed with them, i was like, well, that's, that's that that that that.
00:58:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:58:17
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. Okay. You go do you buddy. I'm not going to be mad about it.
00:58:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
00:58:23
Jarrod Dyke
Um, I do want to say yeah, yeah.
00:58:24
Grumpy Old Prop
And Santa Rivi too. Same thing. but
00:58:26
Jarrod Dyke
The old Taranaki tank.
00:58:27
Grumpy Old Prop
That was...
00:58:27
Jarrod Dyke
He was really good.
00:58:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:58:28
Jarrod Dyke
Um,
00:58:31
Jarrod Dyke
So two things. Jekyll and Hyde on this one, and not not the same person. um We knew it before, but Sule is a huge difference being in this team.
00:58:42
Jarrod Dyke
they're they're They're missing other guys, clearly.
00:58:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:58:44
Jarrod Dyke
like ah Max Jorgensen is not really helpful.
00:58:50
Jarrod Dyke
know I think there's there's still some issues going on in the midfield. um I'm not overly convinced of Creighton being the the choice, but Okay. No Jake Gordon. That's not helpful.
00:59:02
Jarrod Dyke
Um, but he set up the young kid Wilson for a try and he set up Riley for at least one, if not two as well. Like the guy is good. Yeah. You three tries. Yes. Okay. There you go.
00:59:14
Jarrod Dyke
Damn. Yeah. The guy's good. Um, I don't think that's, it I don't think that's the question anymore. If it is, if it is, then it's been answered.
00:59:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:59:24
Grumpy Old Prop
But well I think there's also, you know, you're you're talking, though, about the 10 position for for Taz. i want to go back to it. Like Tain Ed Ben is looking is I think he's looking to leave. i think I saw a report that he's he's he's done um with with Aussie rugby, I guess, which may explain why he's not been playing, but also.
00:59:34
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, really?
00:59:43
Grumpy Old Prop
May explain that him not playing may also explain why he's like saying fuck off.
00:59:51
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. It's could be yeah to chicken or the egg at this point, really, what what came first.
00:59:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. But it's like, yeah,
01:00:00
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah he's, he's, I think he's outplayed what, um oh yeah, he played in wall his last test. Now I admit can't crack the toss. So he's, I think he's, he might be leaving Taz. He might not be leaving Australia.
01:00:13
Grumpy Old Prop
um I think I was mixing it with someone else, but I think he...
01:00:13
Jarrod Dyke
Okay.
01:00:17
Grumpy Old Prop
um
01:00:20
Jarrod Dyke
Well, maybe... I mean, there aren't lot of options where there isn't already an established 10, that being a problem.
01:00:29
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, yeah. Well, also, that's what it is. The Brumbies, Lola Sio, that's what it is. Lola Sio is going off to Japan. um
01:00:38
Jarrod Dyke
How long is that going to be for?
01:00:38
Grumpy Old Prop
so I don't know, but they need a 10. So, Nedved's like, I'll go.
01:00:43
Jarrod Dyke
Damn.
01:00:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, and I think, i think um yeah, I think Lolisio, I think that's that's where I was getting the the two things mixed up.
01:00:46
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, because Dipper Scenie's not the answer there.
01:00:52
Grumpy Old Prop
I think Lolisio is like, i'm not I don't think I'm going get selected for Ozzy, so I'm going to just go and make money.
01:00:53
Jarrod Dyke
There you go.
01:00:58
Grumpy Old Prop
um
01:00:59
Jarrod Dyke
Hmm.
01:00:59
Grumpy Old Prop
So, that's why he's off to Japan, and I'll probably just, you know... do the rounds, probably hit up a top 14 at some point. um So Ed Med's like the natural fit for any team who needs a 10.
01:01:10
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, that would be it.
01:01:11
Grumpy Old Prop
So that's that's that's all it's all.
01:01:11
Jarrod Dyke
That would be a
01:01:13
Grumpy Old Prop
That's the transitive property of where I was going. And I just flipped a and C.
01:01:17
Jarrod Dyke
There we go.
01:01:22
Jarrod Dyke
Anyway, the transitive property is
01:01:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Anywho.
01:01:26
Jarrod Dyke
um
01:01:29
Jarrod Dyke
boneheaded Tupo, Tanya Tupo. Listen, I fucking hate James Dolman, too. Don't swear at the guy, you moron. What's wrong with you?
01:01:38
Grumpy Old Prop
ah
01:01:38
Jarrod Dyke
Like, listen, I'm a fan.
01:01:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Hey, you can't...
01:01:41
Jarrod Dyke
I sit there and curse at the TV.
01:01:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, well, you've said it. Yeah, that's true.
01:01:43
Jarrod Dyke
What's that?
01:01:44
Grumpy Old Prop
I was like, you you've you've I've heard what you've heard you talk about Dolmen, but that's...
01:01:49
Jarrod Dyke
I have, and i would i would happily tell him to his face that he's dog shit, but I'm not on the field where I can get penalized for it. So, that's the difference.
01:01:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. going to do it. Yeah.
01:02:00
Jarrod Dyke
You dumb dumb. What's wrong with you? ah Man, frickin' McCallery must have been losing his shit. I've been like, dude, come on and The fuck?
01:02:10
Jarrod Dyke
These guys are already, you know, having their way with us in this app. We don't need your help doing stupid shit. Ugh. I will not buy stupid shit for no reason.
01:02:21
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, man.
01:02:23
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. So, yeah. I wish I could do that more.
01:02:23
Grumpy Old Prop
That's all I do.
01:02:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:02:27
Jarrod Dyke
um Anyway.
01:02:29
Grumpy Old Prop
It feels like it's all I do.
01:02:30
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Moana are clearly ah an improved team this year, and it's it's it's fun to see.
01:02:34
Jarrod Dyke
It really
Crusaders and Kit Designs
01:02:35
Jarrod Dyke
is.
01:02:35
Grumpy Old Prop
It is.
01:02:35
Grumpy Old Prop
i'm umm that's That's ultimately what i might my biggest takeaway from the last couple of weeks has been. is that
01:02:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay, they're where we were hoping for them to get
01:02:43
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, especially the... Yeah, especially last week when they beat Crusaders.
01:02:50
Jarrod Dyke
It was a big one.
01:02:50
Grumpy Old Prop
They still got to get a new kit.
01:02:51
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I know... Yeah.
01:02:55
Jarrod Dyke
The one they just were just wearing or the other one?
01:02:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, the other though the red, um white, and blue.
01:03:00
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, the the Islander, the Islander, but the Island Warriors whatever they were.
01:03:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Like that.
01:03:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:03:05
Jarrod Dyke
That one.
01:03:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, no.
01:03:07
Jarrod Dyke
Got you. Pacific Warriors.
01:03:08
Grumpy Old Prop
I respect the the history of it, but...
01:03:08
Jarrod Dyke
That's the one I think it was.
01:03:10
Grumpy Old Prop
but
01:03:11
Jarrod Dyke
They can still do it and jazz it up a little bit.
01:03:14
Grumpy Old Prop
they Make it better. Yes, that's yes. Don't do that, though. Don't do that, please.
Druid's Strategy Woes
01:03:21
Jarrod Dyke
um um let's go Let's go over to Fiji and go to the Druid Crusaders.
01:03:22
Grumpy Old Prop
so
01:03:27
Jarrod Dyke
It was 17-0 in halftime, and I turned it off. I was like, I'm over this. Okay, bye. Because, quite frankly, the Druid aren't good this year.
01:03:37
Jarrod Dyke
I think that's this It is. um Yeah. It's also an accurate statement. And what... I hate to shit on him, but, like, I think one of the things that's killing him is the coach but having this constant selection rotation. Like, I can appreciate that you want to keep bodies fresh, but, like, dude, you got to have some consistency.
01:03:37
Grumpy Old Prop
That's and that's kind of depressing.
01:04:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, it's getting bad because like Revula wasn't starting every game. Like they keep flipping him around. um the The back row is almost never the same.
01:04:13
Jarrod Dyke
Right. And it's like, ah there's got to be a point. There's got to be a point where it's like, what, at what point do you say, all right, and this, this is my team.
01:04:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:04:27
Jarrod Dyke
And that's where I'm going to.
01:04:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Is the... I mean, they've been good. They were like, I i was hoping they'd you know be potentially a playoff team this year. and And it's not, it's, you know, and sometimes you go in the other direction You know, sometimes it's, there's down years.
01:04:37
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
01:04:46
Grumpy Old Prop
And I think that's just what they're going through. I think they kind of punched above their weight last year. They might they might be a little tired from the effort still um because none of them have done that before.
01:04:52
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
01:04:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Well, not together. um
01:04:59
Jarrod Dyke
No.
01:05:00
Grumpy Old Prop
So it's now, you know, that's what I'm wondering or or slash hoping because I really hope they they become more of a um
01:05:12
Grumpy Old Prop
like a serious team again because they're but again, it's more fun when these teams are good.
01:05:16
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. Agreed.
Hurricanes' Position Debates
01:05:19
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, God.
01:05:23
Jarrod Dyke
the This was ah shadow of the team that I've seen the last couple weeks, Hurricanes and and Blues. Like, for whatever reason, I don't know what the Blues' excuse is for finding ways to completely cock their attack up because they don't have any.
01:05:39
Jarrod Dyke
Like, they have Bowdoin Barrett at 10. They have two absolutely wonderful wings. And I like our guys, too, but, like, we're we're talking about guys that are you know, usual fixtures in the All Blacks and guys that are just really good players otherwise, the Blues have that.
01:05:51
Grumpy Old Prop
no
01:05:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Yep.
01:05:56
Jarrod Dyke
And on the other side of the coin, yeah know, Bale and Sullivan's playing out of his skin this year. I think that's fair to say. Roy Gard's obviously the first choice, number nine for the All Blacks right now.
01:06:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Yes.
01:06:06
Jarrod Dyke
But that's really it.
01:06:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Kariffi's had a pretty decent year too.
01:06:09
Jarrod Dyke
And Dewey is playing ah another world. I don't know where the fuck this Dewey has been. i love him, and I hope he stays for a long time because that is the Dewey that I want more often than not on the pitch.
01:06:21
Jarrod Dyke
um But, yeah, there's just –
01:06:26
Jarrod Dyke
the i don't it's all it all comes down to what's going on in that 10 shirt you know and we got we got really jobbed by the way things shook out this year for things aiden morgan left so hence my he can go fuck himself um brett cameron got hurt that that was a huge one that was the biggest one without a doubt that was yeah um
01:06:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
01:06:43
Grumpy Old Prop
true yeah that is that's a big one because he was playing really well
01:06:50
Jarrod Dyke
And now Godfrey's hurt who was growing into his role very well.
01:06:54
Grumpy Old Prop
mm-hmm
01:06:55
Jarrod Dyke
And now we have Riley. who And I am like, what is this guy doing? Does he know? Cause I don't.
01:07:06
Jarrod Dyke
And I'm just, I'm so extremely frustrated because this is a blues team that we, put a number on in terms of the way we played defense, but could not find offense to save our life.
01:07:19
Jarrod Dyke
And it was so frustrating.
01:07:19
Grumpy Old Prop
ah Here's my, here's my, I guess my question is, um because I feel like the Cane, and again, i'm i'm I'm not a Canes fan, so please accept this question with the ignorance in which it
01:07:35
Grumpy Old Prop
um but it became
Blues' Talent vs. Performance
01:07:37
Jarrod Dyke
sound like...
01:07:37
Grumpy Old Prop
one.
01:07:38
Grumpy Old Prop
um Why not move Ruben Love to 10?
01:07:42
Jarrod Dyke
I would be more into that than what's been happening. Although apparently this Harkin kid can can also play 10. So maybe try that. Because I'm just, i'm like I said, I'm i'm very over Hoheppa.
01:07:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay.
01:07:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:07:54
Jarrod Dyke
Just, you know, fumbling through.
01:07:55
Grumpy Old Prop
I just think you know it's it's it's a little bit easier to find a 15 than it is a 10.
01:07:57
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
01:08:01
Grumpy Old Prop
And I feel like Love could do it. I always felt like he... you know didn't he Didn't he actually play a 10 a couple times or am I just fucking making that up?
01:08:09
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm. A few years ago. Yep.
01:08:11
Grumpy Old Prop
So, and he wasn't terrible. And I remember when they moved him to 15, I was like, okay, that's a good move for him. But now he's, he's had a couple of years under him. I, I don't understand why that's not happening. Cause he like, they can, they can put some, they always have back three players.
01:08:25
Grumpy Old Prop
I feel like you always have capable guys and yeah.
01:08:26
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
01:08:30
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
01:08:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Putting love.
01:08:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes.
01:08:30
Jarrod Dyke
And they have two more this year with Pony Vi and Kenny Nahalo. Like, they're they're both very good. I wouldn't argue against that.
01:08:37
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes.
01:08:40
Jarrod Dyke
Excuse me. um The Harkin kid was playing 15 a little bit earlier in the season, and he didn't impress me.
01:08:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
01:08:45
Jarrod Dyke
So I might be willing to give him a run at 10 and see if that changes how things go for him.
01:08:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay.
01:08:52
Jarrod Dyke
But, like... Yeah, I don't know.
01:08:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:08:56
Jarrod Dyke
and
01:08:59
Jarrod Dyke
yeah It's a frustrating time to be a Hurricanes fan. I won't be shocked if we don't make the playoff, honestly. I mean, we have some favorable matchups coming up, and I think we'll we' do the job, but we'll probably end up as the last team in.
01:09:11
Jarrod Dyke
That sucks, but Blues might be the next to last team in, honestly, because they're not playing very well either.
01:09:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
01:09:19
Jarrod Dyke
And I don't know what, again, i don't know what their excuse is.
01:09:19
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
01:09:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Well, there're
01:09:21
Jarrod Dyke
They have just, they have more talent than we do by far.
01:09:24
Grumpy Old Prop
mean they have fewer points than the hurri than the Highlanders. Sorry.
01:09:29
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yep.
01:09:32
Grumpy Old Prop
So.
01:09:33
Jarrod Dyke
Who, I didn't get a chance to watch this game, but they just lost to the force.
01:09:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
01:09:41
Jarrod Dyke
So yeah, take that for what it's worth.
01:09:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. So, I mean, and it was force at home that, that has help. Um, and
01:09:49
Jarrod Dyke
And that's a bitch of
Tizano and Force Match Insights
01:09:50
Jarrod Dyke
a trip. I'll give him that.
01:09:51
Grumpy Old Prop
right.
01:09:52
Grumpy Old Prop
And this is the, uh, um, as the, the Spanish say, uh, uh, the year of the Tiz, um, for Tiz, Tizano, get that, get everyone out there, get that.
01:09:52
Jarrod Dyke
But they couldn't even...
01:10:03
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's been... Yeah.
01:10:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Thank you. um
01:10:08
Jarrod Dyke
Tazano.
01:10:08
Grumpy Old Prop
i
01:10:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Tisano!
01:10:12
Jarrod Dyke
There you are.
01:10:13
Grumpy Old Prop
There we go. Thank you.
01:10:14
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
01:10:15
Grumpy Old Prop
um du they He's un-fucking-real. um I think he's we're going to see him in him in in gold the this summer. I don't think there's much of a doubt about that.
01:10:25
Jarrod Dyke
I wouldn't be shocked at all. Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked at all. um All right.
01:10:32
Grumpy Old Prop
I didn't see much of this match, but...
01:10:34
Jarrod Dyke
I am.
01:10:34
Grumpy Old Prop
um
01:10:35
Jarrod Dyke
I caught a glance or two. i was about it.
01:10:38
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah i i think i i
Chicago's and Freejacks' Performances
01:10:41
Grumpy Old Prop
kind of assumed on the gilbert try i was like i think oh and then the penalty yeah i think i saw it about the 25th minute i was like i kind of see where this game is going so i'm kind of shocked at the score but at the same time like i could see that happening too because the force did did have some opportunities and we're just kind of bottling it and kind of handing it away from from my perspective so
01:11:02
Grumpy Old Prop
um You know, good to see him come back. Hey, Harry Potter, Pullman scored. Okay. Yeah. Okay. When.
01:11:09
Jarrod Dyke
something like that scores it's like never mind
01:11:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. um He always reminds me of that Soundgarden song. So whenever I hear, you know, how George Pullman, I think Spoonman and then just gets in my head.
01:11:26
Grumpy Old Prop
So thanks for that too, George.
01:11:27
Jarrod Dyke
there you go
01:11:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Really appreciate it.
01:11:32
Jarrod Dyke
Uh, let's, um, let's do the whip around of the local, of the local teams here. Um, first off, Banshee's absolutely, ah Chicago is not good, by the way. like
01:11:41
Jarrod Dyke
Like, WN, WR, they're, they're bad. Like, they lost to, they lost to the Gemini week one, and then the Gemini came here and got tonked.
01:11:41
Grumpy Old Prop
No, no.
01:11:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
01:11:50
Jarrod Dyke
And then, Tim and I went to the Bay area and got taunced again.
01:11:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:11:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Yeah.
01:11:55
Jarrod Dyke
So, they're not good. I'm pretty sure Denver's good, though. They absolutely blew New York. So, that'll be interesting when...
01:12:01
Grumpy Old Prop
ah Yes, though, the Onyx have a ridiculous. um
01:12:04
Jarrod Dyke
i I noticed it.
01:12:05
Grumpy Old Prop
The rosters.
01:12:06
Jarrod Dyke
I was like, that's not... They're stacked.
01:12:07
Grumpy Old Prop
No, it's it's not fair.
01:12:09
Jarrod Dyke
No. But the good news is they play... I think the only guy game the Banshees play them is is East Coast. Nope, that's a lie.
01:12:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay.
01:12:18
Jarrod Dyke
They play both.
01:12:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, damn.
01:12:19
Jarrod Dyke
Damn it. Damn it all. Me and my fat mouth.
01:12:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Can we just not?
01:12:23
Jarrod Dyke
Anyway.
01:12:24
Grumpy Old Prop
Anyway.
01:12:26
Jarrod Dyke
Anyway, yeah, Banshees crush 65-12 in Chicago, and Chicago's probably not very good.
01:12:34
Jarrod Dyke
Also, Freejack's looking more Freejack-ier. don't know if that's better if that's the right word, but yeah, much better.
01:12:41
Grumpy Old Prop
They free jacked all off free jacked off all over the Miami sharks.
01:12:45
Jarrod Dyke
yeah
01:12:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Um,
01:12:47
Jarrod Dyke
um I'm more inclined to roll well because it sounds like patra is goingnna be out for a little bit longer here
01:12:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm
01:12:54
Jarrod Dyke
more inclined to roll with Penny at 10 than I am with Boyle. I'm okay with Boyle in the back. That actually ended up working out pretty well.
01:13:02
Grumpy Old Prop
hmm.
01:13:03
Jarrod Dyke
um But I'm more yeah'm more inclined to let Penny play 10 if this is the type of stuff that's going to happen.
01:13:07
Grumpy Old Prop
I. Yeah, I thought he did a a pretty damn good job um running the team and also just being in that like, i mean, that the physicality from 10.
01:13:19
Grumpy Old Prop
That's one of those things that like He just put the... I can't remember who was playing 10 for Miami. Just put him on his butt like multiple times.
01:13:28
Jarrod Dyke
O'Leary.
01:13:30
Grumpy Old Prop
So...
01:13:32
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, if if I'm...
01:13:32
Grumpy Old Prop
so
01:13:38
Jarrod Dyke
If I'm the Miami coach, and I don't know which what one it is, but if I'm the Miami coach, I am not happy with the way this game went at all.
01:13:51
Jarrod Dyke
Like, they played badly.
01:13:54
Grumpy Old Prop
it was It was not good.
01:13:55
Jarrod Dyke
No, and as I'm watching, I'm like, the only thing that these guys have, like, that's moving the ball in any way, shape, or form is shithousery. That's it.
01:14:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes. Yep.
01:14:06
Jarrod Dyke
That was the only thing that was moving that was getting them to move the ball. Like, they would shithouse with us, and we'd give away a penalty.
01:14:10
Grumpy Old Prop
you really You really liked their five, I remember, as I recall.
Miami's Game Issues
01:14:14
Jarrod Dyke
What a twit. What a twit. Yeah, they were... They were not good, to say least.
01:14:24
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
01:14:25
Jarrod Dyke
But like, I, yeah. And then freaking, I think it was the five that was the dumbass that threw the ball at one of our guys after, after the whole, the, it was the whole shit show.
01:14:28
Grumpy Old Prop
But.
01:14:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes, he was. He was.
01:14:37
Jarrod Dyke
where There was a little dust up and summers told both teams to calm the hell down. He does that.
01:14:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
01:14:41
Jarrod Dyke
Like if I'm, if I'm the coach, I'm like, come here, you're on the plane back to Boston or back to Miami from here. Now, like go, go back to the hotel and go home. I would not be impressed with that at all.
01:14:52
Grumpy Old Prop
And. And yeah, because he threw it at um ah Q.
01:14:58
Jarrod Dyke
Right. It's like...
01:14:59
Grumpy Old Prop
At his leg. And it's like, he was like, I was just trying to spike it. And it's like, no, you weren't. Like, you just got a penalty. Like, you're not going to spike that ball. You're going to hold on. in it No, you threw it. Like, we all saw you deliberately throw it.
01:15:11
Grumpy Old Prop
um
01:15:12
Jarrod Dyke
It's not hard.
01:15:13
Jarrod Dyke
Especially when got another set of eyes staring right at you. It's like, dude, really?
01:15:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:15:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Yeah.
01:15:18
Jarrod Dyke
Really? What's wrong with you?
01:15:21
Jarrod Dyke
Anyhow. But, yeah. Pre-Jax looked better. Pollock got a hat trick. Back in form. Good for him.
01:15:27
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah is certainly that ah that that kick from Penny that that was that right at half was hmm
01:15:32
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
Standout Plays and Players
01:15:36
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Penny knew what he was doing. He was like, I'm going to put this out here for Paula and let him work. And he worked and it worked.
01:15:41
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
01:15:45
Grumpy Old Prop
And this is a good game to get that that um what Brock Webster in and and give him a little bit of a run because he might need him down the the line.
01:15:45
Jarrod Dyke
Do whatever.
01:15:51
Grumpy Old Prop
But I think a better wing would have done a lot more with the opportunities he got.
01:15:53
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
01:16:00
Grumpy Old Prop
And I want to see more from it.
01:16:01
Jarrod Dyke
You're probably right.
01:16:03
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, you're probably right. Shitty wait for Wayne to end his fucking, his 50th.
01:16:03
Grumpy Old Prop
um
01:16:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, that too.
01:16:09
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, awesome for him. Really ah really happy for him, but like, oof, man.
01:16:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
01:16:14
Jarrod Dyke
Coming off HIA, passes it, comes back out again anyway. It's like, oh man. and ah Tough day. Tough day at the office for him, sadly.
01:16:24
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. um But yeah, this year. Oh, yeah. We'll talk about it later.
01:16:32
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Anyway. All right. So outdid themselves.
01:16:44
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, i don't know. this was a ah week of some damn good performances and it's hard to like, this was a week of of champions for me.
01:16:51
Jarrod Dyke
hmm.
01:16:55
Grumpy Old Prop
i don't really, and don't really see anybody who like totally outdid themselves except maybe Zach Ward um with the, ah like I thought everybody, like people showed up to play and it was like, i think the, you know, ultimately the more talented teams won, which kind of is how it goes, but.
01:17:05
Jarrod Dyke
and
01:17:15
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yeah.
01:17:17
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't see anybody out to themselves. It was like the team, the players that that really showed up were the ones I kind of expect like, oh yeah, yes, you should be showing up. like
01:17:24
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, right. Well, I mean, one that comes to mind is the Mendy from Benetton.
01:17:29
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, I
01:17:30
Jarrod Dyke
that's That's one that I wouldn't have had on my bingo board otherwise.
01:17:34
Grumpy Old Prop
know. And for some reason, I thought it was like a ah ah first I thought it was a nickname for Meninchello. i was like, no, that's not it's not it. um
01:17:43
Jarrod Dyke
Nope. Manichello is Manichello.
01:17:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:17:49
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
01:17:50
Grumpy Old Prop
I was just hearing the name a lot and I was like, it's by somebody doing, you know, when somebody is doing really well.
01:17:50
Jarrod Dyke
Shout out to the...
01:17:55
Grumpy Old Prop
So if he's like, oh, they're talking about Menagello because he's awesome. um No, there's different guy also doing awesome.
01:18:00
Jarrod Dyke
Also doing awesome. Also doing awesome. um Shout out to Arlie Hartley for playing well playing well and you know in a hostile environment. Good for him. um and Shout out to the firefighters for getting that guy down.
01:18:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, yes.
01:18:13
Jarrod Dyke
For sure.
01:18:16
Grumpy Old Prop
They outdid themselves.
01:18:17
Jarrod Dyke
Yes, they did. What was the kid's name? Bryall from the Reds.
01:18:25
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
01:18:26
Jarrod Dyke
He played well.
01:18:27
Grumpy Old Prop
He did.
01:18:29
Jarrod Dyke
I thought Coombs played really well for Munster as well.
Pollard's Performance Concerns
01:18:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes, but I kind of expect that from him, although.
01:18:37
Jarrod Dyke
the Irish don't seem to because they never pick him.
01:18:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, but still, I expect that from him, especially at this level. I think he's a yeah, he's a I love him as a player and I don't know why Ireland doesn't. This is a play for Lundster.
01:18:49
Jarrod Dyke
Same. um She had it.
01:18:55
Grumpy Old Prop
I still feel like Dickskin did, but I'm going to save him for now. um
01:19:01
Jarrod Dyke
That's fine.
01:19:02
Grumpy Old Prop
with
01:19:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Shad it. I'm going all the Quinns, the one 15, one to 23. Shad it. Yeah. Fair.
01:19:11
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
01:19:11
Grumpy Old Prop
um
01:19:12
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
01:19:13
Jarrod Dyke
Danny Wilson. Yep.
01:19:13
Grumpy Old Prop
shated
01:19:15
Jarrod Dyke
um I'll say it. Oh, HEPA for me. so Total, total spit of spit of little bit.
01:19:15
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
01:19:21
Grumpy Old Prop
there
01:19:27
Jarrod Dyke
Try like a who else. There were definitely some poo jobs on this one.
01:19:33
Jarrod Dyke
um oh yeah that we could just just cover this yeah like blues in general like we didn't hurricanes didn't play well and they eked it out with 19 points like i would not be happy about that if i were them um yeah
01:19:47
Grumpy Old Prop
No, they should be winning that by more than one point, certainly. And yeah, scoring more than 19. Yeah, all of that. That's not covering yourself in glory there. Especially because Blues were at home, right?
01:19:57
Jarrod Dyke
nope yes they were
01:19:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, that's...
01:20:01
Jarrod Dyke
yeah i thought we'd find a way to to nick it but we didn't but yeah still wasn't a good performance for them and tos the second half performance was just barf you know they just they just let moana do as they saw fit like and i know we talked about moana have been a second half beast but still like that's that it takes you to tango in that situation
01:20:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:20:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
01:20:24
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. so OK, so here's a question. Do we want to put. um ah Pollard on that list. At what point when.
01:20:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Leicester have the problem scoring games when like this is I thought that that you know on on its face yeah I kind of said that Glasgow have a little bit more they're bringing in a little bit more than than Leicester are but still this is a Leicester team that not that long ago won the Prem and they have a better 10 than they did then and I feel like the play has been inconsistent
01:20:50
Jarrod Dyke
I
01:21:05
Jarrod Dyke
think it's been inconsistent. I think that's a fair statement. Yeah,
01:21:11
Jarrod Dyke
don't know. It's, I mean, he's easily he's on his way out, so, you know, and I'm not sure.
01:21:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:21:20
Jarrod Dyke
i don't think there's anything, any issues going on with he and Checkup by any means whatsoever.
01:21:23
Grumpy Old Prop
No, I'm not. Yeah, I'm not trying to say anything like that. It's just he's not he's not giving them like watching Pollard play for Lester. i would struggle to put to want him as an international 10.
01:21:37
Jarrod Dyke
Agreed.
01:21:40
Grumpy Old Prop
So that's where I'm going with Chad. It is like his this isn't just a.
01:21:41
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
01:21:45
Grumpy Old Prop
um
01:21:47
Grumpy Old Prop
you know how did you play this weekend? or you know But you're you're being judged on an international level player, not just a premiership starting 10. You are for for excuse me the World Cup winner, I believe, like two times.
01:21:54
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
01:22:00
Grumpy Old Prop
like you You should be like crushing it.
01:22:06
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. He has da is his days. There's no doubt, but you're right.
01:22:08
Grumpy Old Prop
He does, but they're kind of few and far between. and that's not like At this level, it should be in-my-sleep kind of thing.
01:22:18
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
01:22:19
Grumpy Old Prop
So that's just my general Andre Pollard complaint this season.
01:22:19
Jarrod Dyke
Um...
01:22:23
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, you got
01:22:25
Grumpy Old Prop
And with Lester in general.
01:22:29
Jarrod Dyke
it.
Referee and Coach Evaluations
01:22:30
Jarrod Dyke
Ref coaching young players. So, ref?
01:22:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Nobody comes to mind. Even Luke Pierce was pissing me off completely.
01:22:42
Jarrod Dyke
was the f freaking...
01:22:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay, how about um carl Carl Dixon for the first 75 minutes of the game?
01:22:51
Jarrod Dyke
for the most part, yeah.
01:22:51
Grumpy Old Prop
I thought he did an amazing job.
01:22:53
Jarrod Dyke
Up until that point.
01:22:55
Grumpy Old Prop
75 minutes for 75 minutes. well but Yeah,
01:22:57
Jarrod Dyke
I didn't think Grove White was too bad for the Sale to Lose game. and that's And I don't love him, by the way, so that's me saying a lot.
01:23:06
Grumpy Old Prop
but there's also not, I don't see there's not much pressure on that match.
01:23:10
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, well, mean, depends on who you ask.
01:23:12
Grumpy Old Prop
That's yeah, I know. I'm sorry, but I don't think there's any way sailor ever winning that game. um So it's like, I'm not sure he could have really bottled it too bad.
01:23:25
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. ah
01:23:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Bad enough to affect the outcome. Like if sale won that game and, and to lose one to say, but the ref, it's like, no, fuck you, dude. Like, no, give me a break.
01:23:36
Jarrod Dyke
But no.
01:23:37
Grumpy Old Prop
Look at your lineup. Look at their lineup. No, not ref. You don't get to see ref on this one.
01:23:42
Jarrod Dyke
No, no, no, no. Coach.
01:23:53
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't really like, like again, I'm but no, nobody really stood out as a coach. I thought they'd like,
01:23:59
Jarrod Dyke
I'll give it to Tana.
01:24:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, that's yeah. That's fair.
01:24:03
Jarrod Dyke
Tana Nurega.
01:24:04
Grumpy Old Prop
I like, no, I like that. Scratch it. Going with yours.
01:24:08
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. um Young player. ah taught i talked to about him before.
01:24:15
Jarrod Dyke
The young 10 from Ulster. His name Murphy.
01:24:18
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yep.
01:24:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:24:20
Grumpy Old Prop
um i'm
01:24:20
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
01:24:21
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm going to go with, because I believe he, he um I think he fits the the criteria, all the criteria.
01:24:28
Jarrod Dyke
The criteria.
01:24:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Jed Melvin.
01:24:32
Jarrod Dyke
Okay. All right.
01:24:34
Grumpy Old Prop
who I don't know if he's how young he is. All I know is like he just came to the Free Jacks last year. um think he's pretty young. um And he had a brace and set up Balacana's try.
01:24:46
Grumpy Old Prop
His only walk-in who was Melvin doing all the work and then be like, okay, you can finish this one rather than me do a little bit more work.
01:24:48
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
01:24:51
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. It's 24.
01:24:53
Grumpy Old Prop
um
01:24:53
Jarrod Dyke
24. twentyf four
01:24:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Fair. I'm taking it. I'm i'm claiming it anyway.
01:24:58
Jarrod Dyke
Fair enough.
01:24:59
Jarrod Dyke
We'll go with it.
01:24:59
Grumpy Old Prop
I thought, you know, because he's coming, he's still, you know, still young, still learning.
01:25:03
Grumpy Old Prop
It's still brand new to the Free Jacks in a way. um But he's having hit day, certainly on um Sunday.
01:25:12
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
Highlighting Best Tries
01:25:14
Jarrod Dyke
Try the week.
01:25:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, the Brax try.
01:25:18
Jarrod Dyke
Brex. Yep.
01:25:19
Jarrod Dyke
I think we talked about this before.
01:25:19
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, you could you could pick, there's like three or four or five or so six ah candidates in the Cash Benetton match alone.
01:25:23
Jarrod Dyke
In that match alone. Yeah.
01:25:29
Jarrod Dyke
Although, if you haven't seen the Jack Reeves try from the Free Jacks game, you're you're welcome.
01:25:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes. That's yes, that's what I wanted to mention that earlier. And I was like nope, that we're holding that off um because that was a fantastic try.
01:25:38
Jarrod Dyke
That's worth a glance.
01:25:41
Jarrod Dyke
That's tough word.
01:25:42
Grumpy Old Prop
That was Penny. No look behind the back. He's been watching me play rugby.
01:25:47
Jarrod Dyke
And I asked Reeves afterwards, asked Reeves afterwards, I was like, are you were you...
01:25:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. yeah
01:25:53
Jarrod Dyke
did you Were you expecting that? He said, I thought was just going to be an easy pop on the inside. did not think he was going chicken wing it to me. ah He was expecting it, but he didn't think it was going to be that.
01:26:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
01:26:04
Jarrod Dyke
That was funny.
01:26:05
Grumpy Old Prop
It looked a little different, but yeah. The ball came out the same, yeah.
01:26:07
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, still was there for it and ready for it, so good enough. Yep. Dick of the week.
01:26:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Carl Dixon for the last five minutes of the...
01:26:17
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
01:26:21
Grumpy Old Prop
of the Cass-Mediton game.
01:26:22
Jarrod Dyke
yeah Yeah. Oh, I got to give it to Teddy Toma. I'm sorry. Like that is, that is criminal.
01:26:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, of that well yes. Yes.
01:26:31
Jarrod Dyke
criminal, dude. Oh, oh boy. Yeah. You got a lot of.
01:26:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Actually, that that type that performance right there, that that whatever the fuck that was, is the reason that we have a dick of the week. because that's
01:26:44
Jarrod Dyke
Oh man, that was bad.
01:26:45
Grumpy Old Prop
that's No, that's it. That's by your by all your teammates' multiple beers because...
01:26:50
Jarrod Dyke
yeah You owe them a night out, dude. That was bad. Yeah, drinks were on Teddy that night, i bet. Jesus. um Player the week.
01:27:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, fuck. Who was it? Shit. Had their hat trick.
01:27:11
Grumpy Old Prop
I lost it. Sorry. Oh, ah Tommy Freeman.
01:27:15
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, Freeman. Yep, that's a good one.
01:27:18
Jarrod Dyke
I'm going to go Jack Crowley for Munster.
01:27:22
Grumpy Old Prop
um'm Not a bad one either.
01:27:23
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
01:27:23
Jarrod Dyke
Perfect.
01:27:23
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm even going to shout out to Pollock for it too, because um for as much as as Freeman did to finish him, Pollock I think even set at least one of those up himself too.
Quarterfinal Predictions
01:27:36
Jarrod Dyke
Possibility, yeah.
01:27:36
Grumpy Old Prop
um Oh yeah, because he had the turnover and then immediately um tapped and went off the penalty and and got it out to Freeman.
01:27:43
Jarrod Dyke
That's right. Yeah, um and fed it to him.
01:27:46
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. to You are correct, sir.
01:27:46
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, fuck, dude, dude.
01:27:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Who's doing that? who Who just does that?
01:27:52
Jarrod Dyke
and Henry Pollock is. Henry Pollock does.
01:27:57
Grumpy Old Prop
like that's That's something we we would do when we were playing d three Shithouse rugby and yeah you know in the US.
01:28:02
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, that's true.
01:28:03
Grumpy Old Prop
like Fuck it. Alright, we're here. Let's tap it let's have a flanker tap and go. yeah me Good. We should see that more.
01:28:12
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. All right. Pick them. Munster Glasgow.
01:28:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Leinster.
01:28:19
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Sad. Glasgow. Good run, buddy.
01:28:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. it's not That's not happening.
01:28:25
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Bordeaux Munster.
01:28:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Bordeaux.
01:28:29
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
01:28:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Same thing for Monster. Good job.
01:28:32
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
01:28:33
Grumpy Old Prop
But <unk> you're Irish, so it's quarterfinals and we all know what happens here.
01:28:33
Jarrod Dyke
Northampton cast. Yeah. It depends on who you ask, but yeah.
01:28:43
Jarrod Dyke
um ah Northampton Cass.
01:28:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Saints.
01:28:47
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. Big one. Rivalry in a quarterfinal. Toulon and Toulouse. It's at Toulon.
01:28:55
Grumpy Old Prop
um I think we all win because we get to watch this match.
01:28:59
Jarrod Dyke
This is true.
01:29:00
Grumpy Old Prop
So I'm going to say the world.
01:29:04
Jarrod Dyke
But other than that.
01:29:05
Grumpy Old Prop
ah um ah Fuck, I'm going to go with to lose.
01:29:11
Jarrod Dyke
Although I would be 0.0% shocked if Tulang won this.
01:29:16
Grumpy Old Prop
No, I. Yes, I'm not. This isn't. ah
01:29:22
Grumpy Old Prop
I think Toulouse are going to win. This is I'm flipping a fucking coin because it could go either way.
01:29:26
Jarrod Dyke
who
01:29:27
Grumpy Old Prop
And because these are two.
01:29:27
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, i'm I'm just going with the guys that have won it more recently, that's all.
01:29:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, but they're just so like they're both so talented. Like this is going to be like I the world wins from this game. I'll move on from that.
01:29:36
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
01:29:37
Grumpy Old Prop
That's that's good enough.
01:29:39
Jarrod Dyke
Super Rugby... Cain's Crusaders.
01:29:44
Grumpy Old Prop
You know, I love you, bud.
01:29:46
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, well, i'm I'm picking the Crusaders, don't worry.
01:29:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay. All right. Yeah.
01:29:51
Jarrod Dyke
um Taz Chiefs.
01:29:53
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm not picking against the Chiefs in this one.
01:29:56
Jarrod Dyke
Nope, no. Taz, they're going spit they have to do a lot to redeem themselves on that one. Blues Moana.
01:30:02
Grumpy Old Prop
I had Eden Park.
01:30:04
Jarrod Dyke
Yes.
01:30:10
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm going to go with Moana.
01:30:11
Jarrod Dyke
Same. Same, same. Yeah, i Blues have to figure out how to attack. Their defense is pretty good, but this Moana team finds ways to score right now.
01:30:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:30:21
Jarrod Dyke
So, I mean, they had a forward get a hat trick last week, didn't they? So, yeah.
01:30:29
Grumpy Old Prop
Sounds right.
01:30:29
Jarrod Dyke
They find ways to score.
01:30:29
Grumpy Old Prop
I
01:30:30
Jarrod Dyke
All right, how long does Juha?
01:30:34
Grumpy Old Prop
i got... I want the Druah, but i I think I'm going to go with the home team because...
01:30:37
Jarrod Dyke
Same, yeah.
01:30:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:30:41
Jarrod Dyke
Reds, Brumbies.
01:30:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Reds.
01:30:43
Jarrod Dyke
Same. Yeah. think the home is what's, what's doing it for me on that one.
01:30:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:30:49
Jarrod Dyke
Okay. There's that.
01:30:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
Signing Off with Fantasy Teasers
01:30:52
Jarrod Dyke
Okay. Thanks for listening to us. We, we had a lot to talk about, so, uh, I hope you, uh, hope you had something nice to drink while you're doing that. and But, um, yeah, we appreciate everyone for listening out there and, um, we're to try and hop over the fancy part here in a second. And if you're going to join us there, see you there.
01:31:08
Jarrod Dyke
If not, ah enjoy the quarterfinals, and we'll catch you guys next week your feet if we can. Have a good evening, everyone.
01:31:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Later.
01:31:14
Jarrod Dyke
Thanks a lot.
01:31:15
Grumpy Old Prop
later
01:31:16
Jarrod Dyke
Cheers.