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Season 7- Episode 25- Scott Doesn't Know (Premiership Final & Super Semi-Final)
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It's a big weekend that we wrap up! On this episode of TFRY, those American rugby knuckleheads have a few things to say, to no one's surprise. We first look at the Lions team for the send-off game in Dublin. Then we look at the Eagle's squad released for the July series, and you guessed it, Scotty does not know. Then we look at a big weekend in our two comps in focus, the Prem Final and the Super Rugby semifinals. It's all the action from London, to Christchurch and to Fort Quincy too. Have a drink and join us friends!
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Platforms
00:00:29
Jarrod Dyke
Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the Fantasy Rugby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke.
00:00:33
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm Ben Glauser.
00:00:34
Jarrod Dyke
Let's go. we got lots to do. Well, not lots to do, but we do have some discussion topics which tend to take us a lot longer to get through than the games.
00:00:41
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't know. we We tend to fill up the time.
00:00:42
Jarrod Dyke
A little too well.
00:00:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Neither of us are, you know, despite of the fact that neither of us are terribly opinionated about anything. and
00:00:52
Jarrod Dyke
Never happened.
00:00:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:00:53
Jarrod Dyke
Never happened.
00:00:55
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
00:00:56
Jarrod Dyke
rearrange myself like an idiot here there we go um yeah sure that you find us on your favorite podcast app share download rate review all that good stuff
00:00:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Good luck with that.
00:01:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Chad, wash your hands.
00:01:11
Jarrod Dyke
ah that's not the rearranging i was doing
00:01:13
Grumpy Old Prop
ah I didn't. taal Oh, well, we'll have to agree to disagree. um
00:01:23
Jarrod Dyke
Uh, shit. ah Make sure you buy our good friend George, the fancier rugby geek, a a coffee or beer. Man's been hard at work all year long. If you haven't bought him one of those things yet, yeah it this is your this is your signal to go do so.
00:01:38
Jarrod Dyke
Like, now. Like, stop, the hit pause, and go and go do that, okay? Yeah.
00:01:42
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm going to do that the first payday I get or the next payday I get.
00:01:47
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:01:48
Grumpy Old Prop
That's how I feel about that.
00:01:49
Jarrod Dyke
so That's, yeah, that's valid. That is valid. um
00:01:56
Jarrod Dyke
There is no discrimination here on this podcast, nor should there be in sports or in life. While, you know, what what has occurred here in the U.S. is not, you know, discrimination.
00:02:09
Jarrod Dyke
Discrimination is political. So, and life is political.
00:02:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:02:13
Jarrod Dyke
So everyone's like, I don't get i don't get involved in politics.
00:02:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:02:16
Jarrod Dyke
That's privilege right there. Congratulations. You are you have now shown your privilege. Good for you.
00:02:20
Grumpy Old Prop
right
00:02:21
Jarrod Dyke
um But we had a really fucked up incident here in the US where we had um saying Senator shot and killed. And then another one was um put in the hospital as well.
00:02:36
Jarrod Dyke
Like, good Lord.
00:02:37
Grumpy Old Prop
And the the woman, um the state senator, her her husband was shot too he and and killed.
Tragic Incident and Political Violence
00:02:42
Jarrod Dyke
That's right.
00:02:43
Grumpy Old Prop
So like, and then not only that, but they were like the third or fourth house he went to that night. And like, yeah, it was funny because what we were talking, we were talking about.
00:02:52
Jarrod Dyke
This dude was trying for harm, for sure.
00:02:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, he was. Yeah, yes. He was deliberately going to kill as many Democrats as he could because. What the fuck? Yeah.
00:03:06
Grumpy Old Prop
When
00:03:08
Grumpy Old Prop
any like ah you know we when we were talking about this for this segment, I was like, well, I mean, this isn't really no description. i'm Like, oh, wait, the guy's a white supremacist. Because again, all... you know That far-right element who would do such a thing is they're white supremacists. That's like, oh, yeah, I forgot. I actually learned who he was and we we know kind of what he's about. Yes.
00:03:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Crazy fucking dude.
00:03:30
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:03:30
Grumpy Old Prop
and But that's like normalized in our society to the point where... like
00:03:34
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:03:35
Grumpy Old Prop
you know I remember back the the um
00:03:39
Grumpy Old Prop
in the BLM protests, the the George Floyd protests, why we kind of started this segment. um and There was all this cue and cry about like you know, the violence, the political violence. We can't let this is violent.
00:03:55
Grumpy Old Prop
It's like, here's some political violence and nobody really like in the mainstream, like it's not a thing. Like Democrats, national Democrats aren't really saying much about it other than than, you know, this was wrong. And it's like, fuck, that's all you're going give these people.
00:04:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Like no wonder they keep coming for you because you don't have a spine. um So that's what we're fucking, you know, we're fucking stuck with here is murderous white nationalists versus, know, um literally the um was it the committee from The Good Place, um which was literally based on the Democrats, and they really do a good job of portraying them.
00:04:24
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yeah.
00:04:31
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, we'll get on it in a thousand years. Like, no, dude, we need shit now. um You know, and that's kind of part of no discrimination. We're still seeing, you know, at all levels of our government, some fucked up shit, no matter who we elect.
00:04:43
Jarrod Dyke
Hmm.
00:04:44
Grumpy Old Prop
We need to get smarter about that.
00:04:48
Jarrod Dyke
That would be wise.
00:04:50
Grumpy Old Prop
but And soon soon.
00:04:50
Jarrod Dyke
Throwing ideas out there.
00:04:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Soonish would be better.
00:04:54
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Sooner rather than later, please.
Lions' Team Selection
00:04:59
Jarrod Dyke
um Yeah, if you are one of our patrons, thank you very much. We do appreciate you, but if you don't need to go get our Patreon anymore. You can wait until next year.
00:05:10
Jarrod Dyke
It's okay.
00:05:10
Grumpy Old Prop
wait Wait till next year. Yeah.
00:05:12
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, wait until we come around to the season in and the the World Cup in the fall here.
00:05:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:05:19
Jarrod Dyke
That's okay.
00:05:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Ooh.
00:05:19
Jarrod Dyke
so Yeah.
00:05:23
Jarrod Dyke
All let's do do other things um before we get into the games.
00:05:33
Jarrod Dyke
Lions have named their first team of the year with some guys obviously left out because they were competing last weekend, which is probably the wisest decision we can go with.
00:05:44
Jarrod Dyke
um But a strong squad for the most part. um
00:05:48
Grumpy Old Prop
I like it. there's not There's not much to not like about it um outside of the hooker position, which, I mean, nothing wrong with Ron Keller. Sorry. ah The starting hooker position.
00:05:59
Jarrod Dyke
The starting hooker, yeah.
00:06:00
Grumpy Old Prop
um I don't...
00:06:01
Jarrod Dyke
and I think we can do without Daly there as well, but you know.
00:06:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Could, but at the same time, you look at that squad. mean, he's, but he did play pretty well down the stretch for salaries too. So like, and especially as a center, he's not going to, he's not going to go in as a, he's not replacing Marcus Smith. That's for damn sure.
00:06:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Not watch that actually happen. Um, but I, yeah, I, I think he's still fun.
00:06:23
Jarrod Dyke
No, the more likely thing is Hanson comes on and Freeman goes back.
00:06:24
Grumpy Old Prop
It's going to be fun at center. Yeah.
00:06:29
Jarrod Dyke
So yeah, no, I mean with Marcus Smith at that fullback, that's obviously the, your 10 replacement should Finn Smith, you know, have an issue or falter or whatever.
00:06:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Um,
00:06:39
Jarrod Dyke
Um, yeah, I mean, I mean, love the combination of Bundy and Tupelo That's great.
00:06:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Yup. That's going to be like thunder and thunder.
00:06:47
Jarrod Dyke
Um,
00:06:49
Grumpy Old Prop
And then the lightning on the outside. Like that's, I like the construction of this. I like every, like where the pieces are. I actually like them for where they fit again, aside from Luke Cowan Dickey.
00:07:00
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, wouldn't be shocked if Morrow and Burn are the starting locks in the tests.
00:07:06
Grumpy Old Prop
i I can't really argue with that.
00:07:07
Jarrod Dyke
So keep eyes on them.
00:07:08
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, you know, there's this other i know there's other players, but at the same time...
00:07:11
Jarrod Dyke
There's other possibilities by far, but ah for me, that's my favorite pair right there.
00:07:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. And to me, I don't know. like you know Obviously, Tom Curry at six, I love it. I think that's perfect. I like that that Jack Morgan playing a ah six and a half.
00:07:28
Grumpy Old Prop
who can he can He is somewhat useful in attack, which makes him better than either Curry. But then you're going to bring Henry...
00:07:33
Jarrod Dyke
I'm sure he'll look way better in this attack than he did in the...
00:07:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:07:36
Jarrod Dyke
He looked pretty good in the Welsh attack, and we know how faulty that was. So um'm I'm sure he's going to look way better.
00:07:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. And then you're going to put then he put Henry Pollock on for him.
00:07:44
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, man, I cannot wait to see that. That's going amazing.
Critique of MLR and USA Rugby Selections
00:07:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:07:49
Jarrod Dyke
Yes, please sign me up.
00:07:49
Grumpy Old Prop
um Alex Mitchell and then Thomas Williams, like that's that's been box office this year, both of them.
00:07:54
Jarrod Dyke
It's a nice combo, yeah. Yeah.
00:07:57
Grumpy Old Prop
like There's just up and down the lineup, ah too much to like to love. And got you got one jag in there, it happens.
00:08:10
Grumpy Old Prop
i think they're But at the same time, I i also i heard a he's that Luke Cowendickie is just like ah great guy to be around. So I think he made the tour more for his his off-the-field exploits um and and activities then than just on the field. um Certainly than just on the field.
00:08:30
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Well, you know, um, the
00:08:42
Jarrod Dyke
the And then Van Portfleet got called in.
00:08:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Where's that being broadcast by the way, in the U S
00:08:45
Jarrod Dyke
I don't know, actually. um like I got a guess, but I don't want to say it.
00:08:51
Grumpy Old Prop
it's probably flow.
00:08:53
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, didn't want to speak it into the universe.
00:08:57
Jarrod Dyke
um Van Portfleet got called into the squad to train while Gibson Park picks up. It sounds like it's just a little a little bang.
00:09:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:09:05
Jarrod Dyke
it's not It shouldn't be too much for him, but you could do worse than Van Portfleet as well, so.
00:09:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:09:12
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I like that a lot. um Yeah, and Van Porto looked great in the finals despite, you know, the loss.
00:09:19
Grumpy Old Prop
He did. i saw someone with I saw someone with a hot take about... um
00:09:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Lester didn't start playing well until Youngs came in. And I was like...
00:09:33
Grumpy Old Prop
That doesn't sound right.
00:09:33
Jarrod Dyke
Huh?
00:09:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Who scored the first try? like
00:09:38
Jarrod Dyke
GBP.
00:09:38
Grumpy Old Prop
um yeah And I remember it being pretty good. Yeah.
00:09:43
Jarrod Dyke
we did We definitely did. You definitely you and i definitely didn't watch the same gig, whoever that was.
00:09:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. I thought that but I was, you know, and maybe that's I don't know if it was sarcasm or whatnot, but.
00:09:48
Jarrod Dyke
Clearly.
00:09:53
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:09:54
Jarrod Dyke
Can only hope so.
00:09:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, because it's like, no, that he played really well and, you know.
00:09:56
Jarrod Dyke
Jesus.
00:10:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Didn't help that like Montoya. I don't know what the hell got into him, what he ate for breakfast, but it was not. It wasn't as Wheaties. It was something more dark and angry.
00:10:14
Jarrod Dyke
um yeah um
00:10:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Because like he was he like he was like to me, ah like obviously, ah certainly out of character. Well, mostly attic mostly out of character. I thought he was a little bit ill-disciplined and crabby and and really like way too angry, not like focused on Toja. And I think that really affected the the Tigers and how they were operating. Because when your your captain loses his head a little bit,
00:10:44
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:10:44
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, that can be bad.
00:10:46
Grumpy Old Prop
they can be bad.
00:10:48
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. No argument on me. um Other news happening around the... The world's here. ah There is Oops, come on.
00:11:05
Jarrod Dyke
Lawrence has named his... 32-player pool for the July series. I assume this is not to go into...
00:11:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, yeah.
00:11:16
Jarrod Dyke
the Pacific nations though. So I'll, I'll take that little bit with me in when I look at this team, because first of all, who was the worst team in and MLR this year?
00:11:19
Grumpy Old Prop
I hope not.
00:11:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Wasn't that the um Nola?
00:11:36
Jarrod Dyke
Nope.
00:11:37
Grumpy Old Prop
Were they not? No.
00:11:38
Jarrod Dyke
Nope.
00:11:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, it was. a um
00:11:40
Jarrod Dyke
Same division.
00:11:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Was it the.
00:11:41
Jarrod Dyke
Nope.
00:11:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, the anthem.
00:11:43
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, there's six Anthem players in the 32.
00:11:45
Grumpy Old Prop
want
00:11:50
Jarrod Dyke
Way too many.
00:11:52
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't really want.
00:11:52
Jarrod Dyke
Way too many.
00:11:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Well, OK, to be fair, two of them are Free Jacks players who are just now we we absolutely know stuck on that shitty team that's given them nothing.
00:12:02
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. And Dull is the other another one, so, but like...
00:12:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:12:10
Jarrod Dyke
who came from Dallas after they folded. So really, I understand three of them are not legit anthem players, but like Pittman is concerning...
00:12:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, but still, I'm not like a Yeah.
00:12:20
Grumpy Old Prop
But they're still... Wouldn't they have... Well, yeah, they work they did come in... Even when the Freejacks were playing Anthem, like neither Mitch or Toby looked like they were when they played with Freejacks.
00:12:33
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:12:34
Grumpy Old Prop
They're just not...
00:12:34
Jarrod Dyke
Storty's probably the only one that I'm excited about because I've seen him do other things elsewhere and at ah at a big level.
00:12:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:12:41
Jarrod Dyke
So i'm I can live with him. And then obviously the other guys that came in from other teams. It's like, alright, that's fine.
00:12:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:12:50
Jarrod Dyke
But at the same time, like... ah Are we picking on... I thought we were picking on form here, which... I can't imagine the form of those three is that good.
00:12:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:12:59
Jarrod Dyke
and Which means we're just picking on... you know, previous bias really is what it comes down to.
00:13:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:13:05
Jarrod Dyke
And i can get you in trouble. can think of a few guys that got into trouble once or three times, you know?
00:13:15
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. I mean, I'm looking at it. Iskero. Yeah.
Challenges in USA Rugby Development
00:13:19
Jarrod Dyke
He's, he's there. He's, he's always going to be there. He's a young quality prop. He's never going to, I need them to play Geiger more. And I know they're trying to use him as kind of a hybrid, but I need them to play Geiger more than,
00:13:32
Jarrod Dyke
The dude is great in space and the free jacks aren't playing him that much, unfortunately either, but that's a message to both teams really like get that man into space and get things will happen.
00:13:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes, agreed.
00:13:43
Jarrod Dyke
Um, I like the inclusion of Klein, former Crusaders guy, obviously playing with Legion now, but also think they were the last place team in the West. Oops. Um,
00:13:54
Jarrod Dyke
yeah oops
00:13:55
Grumpy Old Prop
and I mean, but Pifflet is the stuff kind of locked in starter.
00:13:57
Jarrod Dyke
um
00:14:00
Grumpy Old Prop
So.
00:14:01
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, he's probably not. I'm happy to not see Fawcett on that list. And I know he's in the the broader non-traveling squad, but there's a lot of guys on that list that I, on the broader non-tavali squad, that could just never, ever put it on a U.S.
00:14:11
Grumpy Old Prop
hmm.
00:14:18
Jarrod Dyke
jersey and again, and it would be okay.
00:14:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, I think.
00:14:21
Jarrod Dyke
Nothing nothing bad would happen.
00:14:23
Grumpy Old Prop
No, I think they're like break glass in case of emergency, obviously.
00:14:27
Jarrod Dyke
Hmm.
00:14:27
Grumpy Old Prop
And like, it's even this team.
00:14:31
Grumpy Old Prop
It's not a it's not a very good, but you know, to your to your point, though, it's not a very good MLR team.
00:14:37
Jarrod Dyke
No. No, no, no. We were just talking about that before we hit the record button.
00:14:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Like they're not the not great, like even I'm. I don't know, for found on a Schultz.
00:14:47
Jarrod Dyke
Nah. Pass.
00:14:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Was it go like was a ghost this year?
00:14:51
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I... While DC beat the Free Jacks twice, I don't remember seeing him a ton.
00:14:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. he wasn't He wasn't the one doing it.
00:14:58
Jarrod Dyke
You know.
00:15:00
Grumpy Old Prop
So, yeah.
00:15:00
Jarrod Dyke
Daniel was a pain in the ass. I'll give him that.
00:15:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:15:04
Jarrod Dyke
and there and you know i'm And I'm one that will always bitch about age. For the most part, the guys I'm thinking are like, are they yeah are how old are they?
00:15:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:15:12
Jarrod Dyke
are I don't see anybody here that's not capped that's like 30 plus. I mean, no Oscar London is just criminal.
00:15:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:15:22
Grumpy Old Prop
It is kind of criminal.
00:15:22
Jarrod Dyke
like And even in the wider squad, he's not included. I i don't get... you' bill
00:15:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Especially, i i don't... DeHaas, similarly...
00:15:33
Jarrod Dyke
I can live with DeHaas because he's been there.
00:15:33
Grumpy Old Prop
i don't...
00:15:34
Jarrod Dyke
He's done that. And he's been been playing for the Eagles for a long time.
00:15:36
Grumpy Old Prop
He's been there, but but... Yeah, but it's... He's not on form.
00:15:41
Jarrod Dyke
No, he's not.
00:15:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Let's put it that way.
00:15:42
Jarrod Dyke
You're you're right about that. But if we're talking about the most talented guys, he's he hits the top.
00:15:44
Grumpy Old Prop
He's not a good MLR scrum half right now.
00:15:50
Jarrod Dyke
um
00:15:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. But still, I'd take Lennon over him. Lennon's been playing pretty damn well, too, for the Freejacks.
00:15:54
Jarrod Dyke
Right. Did y'all not see the fucking NOLA game the other week?
00:15:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Although, maybe...
00:15:57
Jarrod Dyke
Like, what the hell?
00:15:59
Grumpy Old Prop
maybe, don't know, is this because he's still still playing?
00:16:03
Jarrod Dyke
No, because there's still free jacks that have been picked.
00:16:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Is it potentially like they might add more free? Yeah, there's just a one, but I mean, i don't know. I'm just wondering if they might add players after the the finals.
00:16:15
Jarrod Dyke
Maybe. But, I mean, there are other players involved this weekend that they've picked as well.
00:16:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Because i don't see...
00:16:20
Jarrod Dyke
so
00:16:22
Grumpy Old Prop
i see one hounds, two, three hounds.
00:16:25
Jarrod Dyke
There's a few on the broader squad as well.
00:16:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay. Oh, I'm just looking at the traveling. the ah Okay, there's the non-traveling reserves.
00:16:33
Jarrod Dyke
the wall kid needs to be flipped into that, into that, um, into that squad. Honestly, you could do it for, for a wall, the young kid for the hounds.
00:16:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Who does?
00:16:45
Jarrod Dyke
Um, you could do it for Mitchie, honestly, as much as I love him.
00:16:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Sean McNulty. That cracks me up. That name cracks me up because it's ah in in the wire. One of ah Detective McNulty's kids is named Sean. So.
00:17:03
Jarrod Dyke
Sean. Yep. What did I do? but um Yeah, I have concern. yeah know, Helsenbeck is the 10. And has he been playing 10 that much for them? I guess so. But damn.
00:17:18
Jarrod Dyke
ah Also, like, Caceres is not an 8. He was playing Locke for Miami this past weekend. Like, ah i I have lots of questions.
00:17:28
Grumpy Old Prop
And not terribly well.
00:17:30
Jarrod Dyke
No. No, that game didn't go well. I know if anybody watched. We'll talk about later. But, yeah, they go really well for a lot of them.
00:17:37
Grumpy Old Prop
We did.
00:17:40
Jarrod Dyke
um Yeah, I have, you know, there's some parts that excite me. And I know, and and and because I know they're fairly young and yeah we're talking about building towards 31 and yes, 27, we should, we damn well better qualify because otherwise, yeah, 31 kind of a pie in sky idea for what they're saying they want to accomplish.
00:17:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:18:03
Jarrod Dyke
But I have concerns. Lots of them.
00:18:11
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I don't know. i I still have questions over Scott Lawrence's vision. And, you know, if they give him the full reign all the way till 31 he cocks this up, he's going to owe a lot of people an explanation.
00:18:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, Yeah, that's the thing.
00:18:38
Jarrod Dyke
And so will the remainder of U.S. rugby. Let's put that way. Let's also keep that in mind. Like, this is not just him at the top.
00:18:42
Grumpy Old Prop
and it's It's a lot of that, too.
00:18:44
Jarrod Dyke
This is, there's a lot of things going on otherwise.
00:18:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, it's not that simple, but at the same time, like, there is enough.
00:18:49
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:18:54
Grumpy Old Prop
there At this point, like, you know, looking at that that squad, it's not that they're not talented. It's just that they're not that good. And, like, to me, if you have talent and you've been playing for, like,
00:19:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, take... um You know, we'll come talk about it later, but... um The... Shit, what's the name? The 15 for the Freejacks.
00:19:20
Jarrod Dyke
Brock.
00:19:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Webster. Yeah. um It took him a little bit to get acclimated, and he was pretty pretty poor early on for the Freejacks, but then it clicked, and now, fuck, he's been amazing the last couple of weeks.
00:19:29
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:19:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Gotta try taking away from him this week. Like, he... When it clicks, it clicks. What's going on with the coaching of USA Rugby that we can get much more talented players, much more players who are like quality athletes, not just much more, but you know, it's not just quantity, but quality players or quality athletes who could play rugby a little bit.
00:19:55
Grumpy Old Prop
But they're just dumb or they don't really know how to play on a a team at that level. And I don't get it. should just does that should be That should be the easy part
00:20:04
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:20:08
Grumpy Old Prop
At this point, and it's still that that's what they're struggling with. So, yeah, I i kind of pin that, you know, a little bit on USA Rugby, but but also a lot on the the coach, because he's got to be working with. and MLR and club and college collegiate coaches to to get the players ready better than they're doing.
00:20:22
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:20:24
Grumpy Old Prop
and
00:20:26
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yeah. And I think.
00:20:32
Jarrod Dyke
USA Rugby CEO can really put um can put there, put a limb out there for themselves, too, because this is going to be.
00:20:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:20:40
Jarrod Dyke
um What's his name? Young. That's his last name. I don't remember his first name, but yeah. Anyway, he can.
00:20:48
Jarrod Dyke
I
00:20:53
Jarrod Dyke
know. don't remember who it is. Doesn't matter. my brain My brain's gone. um But it doesn't matter. um He can kind of put
00:21:06
Jarrod Dyke
yeah put a limb out there for himself if he if this if this project also doesn't go well for himself because there's a lot of things that... um
00:21:19
Jarrod Dyke
that he's kind of put onto this and just, and like, think about the structure of us rugby and what is feeding the top right now. And it is MLR. What's feeding the MLR teams.
00:21:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Exactly.
Youth Rugby Coaching Issues
00:21:36
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, we, we, we have MLR.
00:21:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Like what? Yeah.
00:21:38
Jarrod Dyke
Wonderful. This is great. Ben, I go to almost every game and we enjoy ourselves. This is what we were hoping for from a, you from ah a structure standpoint.
00:21:49
Jarrod Dyke
what's below that and i can tell you personally from what i know at least at the age group that's the most ripe you know and and and um with the most potential and that is the u19s i can tell you for a fact there's one coach that knows what the fuck they're doing and the rest don't at least for the free jacks so that's terrifying
00:22:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, right. Like they should get, and like they should have actual, actual professional coaches. Because yes, I also know some of the coaches think for the, and in you know, the ladies independence.
00:22:25
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:22:30
Grumpy Old Prop
And it's like, it's, it's a, it's unfortunately jokeful.
00:22:31
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm. Same idea.
00:22:37
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Well, one of the Junior Jacks, a la the Academy for the but Free Jacks, one of the coaches for the high school team, you and I coached against a few weeks ago.
00:22:54
Jarrod Dyke
And um it wasn't good.
00:22:57
Grumpy Old Prop
No, no.
00:23:00
Jarrod Dyke
It wasn't good. And that was with that was with us taking off a bunch of guys too.
00:23:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Yeah.
00:23:08
Jarrod Dyke
So, yeah, that's bad news.
00:23:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Guys had a while to build a program too. So it's yeah, not good.
00:23:11
Jarrod Dyke
That's not good. That's not good at all. um So anyway, and you know, obviously I have a couple of boys that are playing for them the last couple of years and
00:23:20
Grumpy Old Prop
You had like one of your players came up to me after. um ah think it was the the semi.
00:23:30
Jarrod Dyke
Probably the quarterfinal two weeks ago.
00:23:30
Grumpy Old Prop
And said,
00:23:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, because I wasn't... No, I thought I missed the quarterfinal.
00:23:36
Jarrod Dyke
You weren't at the semifinal. No, you missed the semi.
00:23:38
Grumpy Old Prop
I was at the semi. I missed the semi?
00:23:41
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, you missed the semi.
00:23:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay, then it must have been quarterfinal. um
00:23:45
Grumpy Old Prop
He comes up to me as like, you know, I'd love to play for the Eagles. It's like, that that's my goal. I'm like, there's nothing really, there's nothing stopping you. Like you're going to work.
00:23:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, don't get me wrong.
00:23:57
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, and yeah.
00:23:59
Grumpy Old Prop
But like, I've seen the people who make it there and you're, you know, you're, you already have an advantage over a lot of the people who, you know, a lot of people, cause he's been playing for a couple years for you.
00:24:09
Grumpy Old Prop
And it's like, you know, that, that was a discussion that Jess and I would have regularly about, you know, was it worth doing that work for that team? and It wasn't before, but it might be now.
00:24:19
Jarrod Dyke
but back then now it could be yeah well you have a and you have the path to get to MLR now and and and WER and so on and so forth which is way better than what it was when you know when you and you know when we were here thinking about that shit 10-15 years ago big difference now
00:24:19
Grumpy Old Prop
So it's like, yes, go like, Now it could be because it's like, yeah, if he wants to play in 2031. Yeah.
00:24:27
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:24:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:24:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. It was like, yeah, there's no there's no reward. Like it's all risk, and no reward. And now there's a little bit of a reward, but um you still got to do the work.
00:24:48
Jarrod Dyke
yep so i don't know we'll see TBD as it were um they play Belgium, Spain and and England obviously a depowered England
00:25:03
Jarrod Dyke
July 19th in DC oh yeah it'll still be a really good England team don't doubt that don't doubt that
00:25:04
Grumpy Old Prop
And I say fuck.
00:25:13
Jarrod Dyke
ah Why are they playing two of them in Charlotte?
00:25:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Speaking of England.
00:25:17
Jarrod Dyke
Ugh, come on, guys.
00:25:18
Grumpy Old Prop
That's where the anthem are cause they're supposed to be the.
00:25:23
Jarrod Dyke
Ugh, stupid people. Yeah, ceo ah CEO of USA Rugby, you're already fucking up, I hate to tell you.
00:25:25
Grumpy Old Prop
ah National feeder team. Yeah.
00:25:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:25:31
Jarrod Dyke
Ugh, gross. Anywho, let's talk about other games, shall we?
00:25:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes, please. I started, but then jumped the gun.
00:25:45
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, you were all excited
00:25:46
Grumpy Old Prop
the The that
Leicester vs Bath Final Recap
00:25:47
Jarrod Dyke
about it.
00:25:47
Grumpy Old Prop
we the ah agenda is unclear. We added two things after the agenda was finalized. and
00:25:53
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:25:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Obviously, I didn't get the timing of them.
00:25:54
Jarrod Dyke
Oopsie daisies. That's okay. That's okay.
00:25:59
Grumpy Old Prop
So...
00:25:59
Jarrod Dyke
um Yeah, so anyway, let's go... yeah let's go to the Twix. To London. And... Yeah, I mean...
00:26:12
Jarrod Dyke
i In a way, I have i feel for Leicester. They scored three tries.
00:26:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah,
00:26:20
Jarrod Dyke
Bath only got two. And Leicester really worked their way down there for all three. I think it's fair to say. um
00:26:30
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah they didn't get any easy ones, certainly.
00:26:32
Jarrod Dyke
No. no And yeah know the Ojo-Mojo try it was all off the Finner intercept.
00:26:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:26:41
Jarrod Dyke
But at the same time,
00:26:46
Jarrod Dyke
Mistakes were made by Lester. Um, Montoya was probably lucky that he came back.
00:26:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Certainly.
00:26:52
Jarrod Dyke
I think the dynamic, dynamic tackle little area saved him on that one. I think if he was one-on-one with that guy, yep, that's the, you, you, you, that would have been the end of Julian Montoya as a tiger.
00:26:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:27:04
Jarrod Dyke
And that would have been a shitty ending for him.
00:27:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:27:07
Jarrod Dyke
would have felt bad.
00:27:09
Grumpy Old Prop
They saved that first for a different tiger.
00:27:12
Jarrod Dyke
Hmm. Hmm. Yep. Yep. Uh-huh.
00:27:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Coley going off for a yellow with like 10 minutes to go.
00:27:19
Jarrod Dyke
Oh.
00:27:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh.
00:27:22
Jarrod Dyke
Not quite Jasper or Ashy going off, but...
00:27:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:26
Jarrod Dyke
Damn close. Almost more painful in a way. um Yeah, it's... While, well again, while I feel for Leicester and you know they they work to get their tries, also it does discipline does come into effect. And you know you and I are both on the same page when we talk about discipline. like yeah You're going to give away penalties, but there's like a mark where you just have to stop. And Leicester couldn't help themselves.
00:27:56
Jarrod Dyke
and And Finn, out did Finn miss a kick on the day?
00:27:56
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
00:27:59
Jarrod Dyke
I think he missed one, maybe.
00:28:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Maybe? um
00:28:04
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:28:07
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't have it. You know, he made his conversions, so...
00:28:12
Grumpy Old Prop
I can't get my mouse to work.
00:28:12
Jarrod Dyke
mu seeus so He might have missed one of the penalties. That's it.
00:28:17
Jarrod Dyke
But yeah, it's...
00:28:24
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I don't know.
00:28:24
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, it was just like, it was a, yeah, it just, it was a difference in class and Lester obviously gave it you know, a good, give themselves a good puncher's chance. And, you know, it was a little bit of garbage timery, the Ileone try, like, and there was still a chance, but I mean,
00:28:50
Grumpy Old Prop
it wasn't, I don't know. I think, I think this, the scorelines closer than the game was. I think it favors the ah Tigers a little bit. Not that they were bad, but, um,
00:29:03
Grumpy Old Prop
I thought, you know, obviously with Finn kicking for goals so much, obviously I, I didn't always agree with it. I did the last one just to make sure, you know, obviously it was necessary, but, um, you know, always favor the, the, you know, going for the, uh, the tries over the, you know, that would have put the game away.
00:29:15
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, it wasn't everyone's favorite choice, I can tell you that much.
00:29:24
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, had they done that earlier rather than kick the, kick the, uh, kick the penalties, but,
00:29:31
Grumpy Old Prop
I can't really argue against it. They won a title. So like, I don't agree with it, but they weren't wrong.
00:29:35
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:29:42
Jarrod Dyke
No, they end up being right, and it doesn't happen that often in terms of that. i mean, and also consider that they chalked off at least one other bath try. read i thought Was Reed or Pepper going score?
00:29:52
Grumpy Old Prop
right.
00:29:53
Jarrod Dyke
Pepper. Pepper was going to score, and they chalked that off, and I don't i remember just shaking my head saying, nope, I think you got did you got this wrong.
00:29:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:30:01
Jarrod Dyke
But... Yeah, and then the, oh, the Smith, the Nicky Smith, what should have been a yellow card for him.
00:30:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Wasn't there a...
00:30:08
Jarrod Dyke
Like, oh, man, dude, he is so lucky to have stayed on the field for as long as he did because to me, that was not a natural emotion.
00:30:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:30:18
Jarrod Dyke
He's not pulling his hand out. Number one, he puts his hand in there when he shouldn't have.
00:30:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:30:22
Jarrod Dyke
But number two, like, even this is not natural unless you're actively trying to do it. like yeah
00:30:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
00:30:29
Jarrod Dyke
and okay ah Or you're knocked out, which is a possibility. But he wasn't knocked out. We know that. So, yeah, I you got away with that one for sure.
00:30:33
Grumpy Old Prop
No, he wasn't.
00:30:38
Jarrod Dyke
think he should count himself lucky, you know, wholeheartedly. um But, yeah i and i yeah, I like the way a lot of what... Backed it on the day. A lot of their guys, you know, their back row played really, really well overall between the ah three guys and then Barbary coming in as well. and And Bayless as well.
00:31:00
Jarrod Dyke
So good on those guys for doing the job.
00:31:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, I mean, ultimately, like, good final, the the better team won, it just wasn't like a classic to me.
00:31:03
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:31:10
Grumpy Old Prop
It's not, it's one of those, like, okay, cool, I watched that. It didn't have the, like, it had the tension, sure, like it had a little bit drama, it just didn't
00:31:22
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't know. It didn't have the showmanship that you'd want from a, like a ah final. And the, the way I guess the way this competition has been all year has been like lot of fireworks.
00:31:33
Grumpy Old Prop
And I get that it was, you know, teams that also can defend a little bit, but, um, not much in the way of fireworks. So it's one of those people. Oh yeah. Bath one. That was, yeah, that, that was, there was, that was a good team.
00:31:43
Grumpy Old Prop
wasn't a great game. Good team. So, um, I think that's going to be the more of the story of the season was like the best team won.
00:31:47
Jarrod Dyke
Very good team. Yeah.
00:31:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Um,
00:31:52
Grumpy Old Prop
The final wasn't one you're to that was, you know, you're not going to rewatch that 10 times unless you're a bad fan, which I understand.
00:32:00
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. That's all you can get that. Um...
00:32:10
Jarrod Dyke
Cole's yellow. Yes, no.
00:32:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes.
00:32:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:32:16
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I think you you just got to make the decision and know who you are and be like, all right, I'm not getting this and get out of there or don't leave your feet.
00:32:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:32:26
Jarrod Dyke
Maybe that be being the more better decision.
00:32:26
Grumpy Old Prop
And
00:32:32
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah. um
00:32:35
Grumpy Old Prop
It's just one of those, I didn't want to see, I didn't want to see it, but it was like, yeah, there's no, ah can't, you can't argue against it. I don't think.
00:32:42
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, it was tough.
00:32:47
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I mean, tough to watch, but it's like, man, you didn't leave me a choice.
00:32:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Because, right, you don't want to card a guy in that situation. Nobody does. It's not, but like, hands are tied at some point.
00:32:59
Jarrod Dyke
Correct. Yeah, correct. I agree.
00:33:05
Grumpy Old Prop
It's not like that, ah oh yeah um there was a and move. I think I've, I don't know if I've referenced it before a movie, a farewell, it's a farewell to Paris with ah Billy Crystal and he's an NBA ref and he kicks out Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in his, in his, you know, farewell game. He's like, ref, it's my farewell game. And he says, well, let me be the first to say farewell.
00:33:32
Grumpy Old Prop
You're out.
00:33:33
Jarrod Dyke
And
00:33:33
Grumpy Old Prop
oh So it wasn't like that. It was more like, i can't believe I have to do this. So like nobody wants to, you know, nobody wants to do that.
00:33:41
Jarrod Dyke
Hmm.
00:33:46
Grumpy Old Prop
But, you know, if it it doesn't matter at that point, like that when that play was going on, it's not, you know, Dan Cole's last game.
00:33:48
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:33:53
Grumpy Old Prop
It's that dude that prop is being a fucking dick and needs to sit for a bit.
00:33:58
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yep. more More what it was about.
00:34:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:34:03
Jarrod Dyke
Even if he didn't feel so.
00:34:08
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. So congratulations to Bath. um Obviously we're but big fans of the 9-10 combo over there as well. Especially good old Ben. Good for him.
00:34:19
Jarrod Dyke
kicking away whatever bullshit people have given him for the rest of his life.
00:34:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. And he is, he is um training with the national squad. So I've seen, ah seen the, the, the photographic evidence.
00:34:26
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I would imagine so, especially without, yeah especially without Ben Poverle right now and and Mitchell.
00:34:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:34:36
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, that's the two guys that were probably the top two seats for them.
00:34:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:34:41
Jarrod Dyke
So, yeah, doing him. ah Let's go over to the Supers.
Crusaders vs Blues Match Analysis
00:34:50
Jarrod Dyke
Super dupers. um Crusader's Blues.
00:34:57
Grumpy Old Prop
That was a game that happened.
00:34:59
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, it was, it you know, it was, it was tense, but at the same time, like, messy, like super messy.
00:35:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, super messy.
00:35:08
Jarrod Dyke
And ah ah look let's put it on the right person that that's on too, by the way.
00:35:09
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean...
00:35:12
Jarrod Dyke
And the yes, I know the weather didn't help. Dolman. Dolman. holy shit, did he let that rock just be a fucking shit show?
00:35:17
Grumpy Old Prop
He was...
00:35:19
Jarrod Dyke
Like, oh, I'm watching it. I'm like, every rock is a total mess, and he could easily clean that up just by saying, yeah, you don't need to go in there and or comma slash, get the fuck out of there, please.
00:35:30
Jarrod Dyke
and Instead, he just lets it happen like an idiot.
00:35:32
Grumpy Old Prop
There was a... I can't remember what...
00:35:37
Grumpy Old Prop
oh which I can't remember which team it was, but like one player was still retreating after a tackle and the tackle player tried to pop it and he just caught it as he's offside, never onside, like literally never onside.
00:35:43
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:35:50
Grumpy Old Prop
He's coming back and the pop from the deck, he just catches it and and plays it out. And Doman's like, I play on. It's like.
00:35:59
Jarrod Dyke
It's like, oh, play on. No, no, no. there's there's There's a breakdown here, you fucking idiot. Like, what's wrong with you?
00:36:02
Grumpy Old Prop
That's.
00:36:03
Jarrod Dyke
Ugh.
00:36:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. And I'm just, I was like, I i can't take this game seriously anymore.
00:36:07
Jarrod Dyke
No. I couldn't. As soon as I saw him, I was like, and this is funny.
00:36:10
Grumpy Old Prop
And it was, yeah, it was, he was awful the whole game.
00:36:14
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, he's terrible. He should never be near professional rugby, but let alone anything but above super rugby.
00:36:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, that was, fuck.
00:36:21
Jarrod Dyke
Yeesh. Um...
00:36:23
Grumpy Old Prop
He's going to be the new Ensel me.
00:36:26
Jarrod Dyke
yeah ah ah The yellow card? I mean, Satutu or whatever. um That might as well been for the game.
00:36:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, he did it.
00:36:34
Jarrod Dyke
Enor and Fusitua, I thought both were lucky to return, quite honestly.
00:36:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes. and but Here's the thing, though. i got to say that's out of Dolman's hands, at least. He's like, yep, yellow meets the threshold.
00:36:44
Jarrod Dyke
It is. it is.
00:36:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Go check it out. I am shocked that both.
00:36:47
Jarrod Dyke
is.
00:36:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, both. I was like.
00:36:50
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, so that's on, you know, the refereeing team as a whole, which is...
00:36:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:36:54
Jarrod Dyke
look
00:36:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:36:57
Jarrod Dyke
Well, I will say this for the game itself. um
00:37:03
Jarrod Dyke
Will Jordan stood up and and made his presence known. He got two. One of them wasn't the prettiest ones, but he got there. But the other one was pretty good. So, ah you know, this might be the return of Will Jordan, which is bad news for any way that's about to play him one way or the other.
00:37:17
Jarrod Dyke
um Yeah, because...
00:37:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Fortunately, oh oh, wait, wait, wait. I will come to that in second.
00:37:21
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, sadly, that's going to be you, I think, big guy.
00:37:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Wait a second.
00:37:23
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. ah speak of the devil, let's yeah let's go to this. um Chiefs Brumby's Brumby's gave it the old college try, as it were.
00:37:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:37:36
Jarrod Dyke
um
00:37:37
Grumpy Old Prop
And it ended in a solid, that's a solid butt kicking right there.
00:37:38
Jarrod Dyke
But in the end, just quality and yeah, Lola CEO not coming back didn't didn't help.
00:37:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Like that's, that's all that. No, that didn't help at all.
00:37:48
Jarrod Dyke
I'm sorry, Jack DiPersini, that's not your...
00:37:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Um,
00:37:50
Jarrod Dyke
but that's That's just not going to happen for you.
00:37:53
Grumpy Old Prop
no.
00:37:54
Jarrod Dyke
I'm sure you're well liked, but nope.
00:37:57
Grumpy Old Prop
No, and he he did was in some stupid shit as soon as he came on the field, too. He was not helping his team, um which is a shame. But, yeah, the Chiefs, it was just too much Chiefs.
00:38:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, it they just started to get overwhelming, and then it overwhelmed.
00:38:17
Jarrod Dyke
And eventually it was overwhelming.
00:38:17
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:38:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, Corey Toole put on a good show.
00:38:21
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, another one that played well for them.
00:38:22
Grumpy Old Prop
That was cool. um you know, I you know got to say, you know, McKenzie's still kicking for posts a lot, but at this point it was, yeah, just keep kicking.
00:38:25
Jarrod Dyke
him
00:38:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Like he wasn't, they weren't giving up like great field position for him. They were just like, okay, well you have a bit of a boot, take a shot.
00:38:42
Jarrod Dyke
yes there were a couple especially yeah there were a couple for sure i was just like yeah okay you're pretty far out here but if you want to go for it
00:38:42
Grumpy Old Prop
And you're, you're cause he's been on target. And so it's like, why not? Okay. Okay. Yeah, and it's like free points and you know extent again.
00:38:54
Grumpy Old Prop
to me, in a game like this, you build the scoreboard. like You've already scored. How many tries did they score? um One.
00:39:03
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, I got one.
00:39:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Wow, they only scored three tries.
00:39:04
Jarrod Dyke
And then, yeah and scored two and Jacob, Jake, they were talking about him on the broadcast and think he's worth mentioning here too.
00:39:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Shit. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:39:10
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:39:12
Jarrod Dyke
Jacob, like, yeah, what a, what a development he has been for them and revelation that he has been for them. Cause it's just, yeah, the, you know, they, they, there's many of people, you know, you and I included that were like, oh, DMACC can't just play 10.
00:39:28
Jarrod Dyke
They gotta have someone else.
00:39:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:39:29
Jarrod Dyke
and for the, the, beginning of the season while they were trying to get jacob to understand how that second receiver is played in their attack um he filled the role adequately in the first receiver while they were trying to train him into that second receiver role and you he the last what month or so he's been into that that second receiver role for them and and and played extremely well especially for young lad don't think he's very old um
00:39:58
Grumpy Old Prop
No, i think he's pretty young. But I don't know how much or how young.
00:40:01
Jarrod Dyke
look him up here 23 23 not super not super young but not not super old so yeah good good time to start developing yourself and put yourself to the front there big guy yeah yeah
00:40:03
Grumpy Old Prop
It's not bad.
00:40:14
Grumpy Old Prop
and it does but that also does allow you know then you can as you're saying dmack can share first receiver position too and as good i mean look he's been excellent this year as i've been saying um because like with with um brock webster like well when we see it
00:40:23
Jarrod Dyke
hmm
00:40:36
Grumpy Old Prop
We'll tell you like it's, this isn't a, Oh, I hate the guy.
00:40:37
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:40:38
Grumpy Old Prop
So i'm just going dish on him. um No, I was really disappointed with D max play at 10 and he's completely turned it around. And that's the, I thought he managed this game really well.
00:40:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Like the, the problem with D Mac has, ah has, has traditionally been that he's a complete highlights player. And when he's not making a highlight, he's hurting the team. And it it only looks better because you see the highlights. Yeah.
00:41:02
Grumpy Old Prop
um But he's really brought some substance to his game. So, and that's what put them in this position. And
00:41:11
Grumpy Old Prop
to had to be for Jacob to learn from a guy like that is going to be super helpful the future.
00:41:11
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:41:15
Grumpy Old Prop
And it's been helpful for his development this year.
00:41:19
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I think it'd be hard to deny otherwise.
00:41:23
Jarrod Dyke
Truly we do. So, Chiefs Crusaders
00:41:28
Jarrod Dyke
in Christchurch.
00:41:32
Jarrod Dyke
I look forward to that one in the on the the morning there.
00:41:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes, when whenever it goes to replay so we can watch it without going on social medias.
00:41:39
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:42
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Listen, I don't have that issue. You do.
00:41:49
Jarrod Dyke
you You have that tendency to just...
00:41:49
Grumpy Old Prop
There's nothing worse. So there's not much... the funny thing is there's not much rugby on Blue Sky yet. And yet I open it up and it's in it's always...
00:41:58
Jarrod Dyke
You find ways to... It finds you. Yeah.
00:42:01
Grumpy Old Prop
It's like, what the fuck? I don't want to hear about this right now. Like you're the safe place where there's no, we're unfortunate. Like, mean, at that point it should be the safe place because there's such little rugby content and no, I get spoiled.
00:42:19
Jarrod Dyke
And womp womp. ah Okay.
00:42:27
Jarrod Dyke
Whip around for comma slash free jacks.
Free Jacks' Strong Performance
00:42:31
Jarrod Dyke
um Well, we scored, what, 20 seconds into the game and we didn't turn back.
00:42:36
Grumpy Old Prop
he Pretty much. Now, it was...
00:42:39
Jarrod Dyke
Lasage down the sideline to Balacano and KMiami, nice to see you.
00:42:39
Grumpy Old Prop
ah
00:42:42
Grumpy Old Prop
sir
00:42:43
Jarrod Dyke
Goodbye. they they
00:42:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Thanks for playing.
00:42:47
Jarrod Dyke
it was I think it was, what, 12.10 at one point? And that's the closest it got.
00:42:53
Jarrod Dyke
Pretty sure that's's that's where it got.
00:42:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Something along those lines.
00:42:56
Jarrod Dyke
I was like, okay, I think this is over. I'm to throw that out there.
00:43:03
Jarrod Dyke
ah Yeah, I mean...
00:43:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, because...
00:43:08
Jarrod Dyke
i Yeah, and they they were...
00:43:09
Grumpy Old Prop
they what they there was And that 10, their try was their first try in New England in quite some time.
00:43:17
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, three. They've had three matches to try to score.
00:43:18
Grumpy Old Prop
And...
00:43:21
Jarrod Dyke
Last year, they got three points. a year the year This year, when they came here, got six.
00:43:28
Jarrod Dyke
ah Yeah, so...
00:43:28
Grumpy Old Prop
And like...
00:43:32
Grumpy Old Prop
the The Free Jacks also did have a try that was disallowed, as we we were talking about earlier. um There was... Did you see the replay at all? Have you actually gone back to watch any of it?
00:43:43
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, and I don't like any of it, so...
00:43:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Because i thought that was...
00:43:48
Jarrod Dyke
I disagree.
00:43:48
Grumpy Old Prop
i've I thought that was a little bit fair, but but at the same time, I don't like that it was called back at all because that was a brilliant play. what Webster gets receives a kick.
00:43:59
Grumpy Old Prop
It didn't really impact anything. That's the other thing.
00:44:01
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:44:02
Grumpy Old Prop
There was no there's no impact to the play. there was no then Woody was going to charge that down. It was a long kick. Webster takes a run at their line, notices that their backfield is...
00:44:12
Grumpy Old Prop
they're back field is completely discombobulated and just chips it.
00:44:16
Jarrod Dyke
Super discombobulated. Yeah.
00:44:19
Grumpy Old Prop
And one guy goes after it lazily after a bounce and Webster's like, Nope, mine steals it and runs for a try.
00:44:24
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, yeah.
00:44:24
Grumpy Old Prop
And it's like, yeah.
00:44:27
Jarrod Dyke
Just it didn't quite steal it out of his hands, but virtually did. Just like ah like, and I've seen that happen probably three or four times this year in rugby in general, but at at all levels, by the way.
00:44:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:44:40
Jarrod Dyke
um
00:44:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:44:42
Jarrod Dyke
Our boys grade all the way up to freaking, you know, high-end stuff. um Just if you're running back and you're trying to chase that ball, b Be a little more hasty with it.
00:44:55
Jarrod Dyke
Be a little more quick with it and some intention and put some intention behind it.
00:44:55
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah High-pointed, maybe. Because they the yeah
00:45:00
Jarrod Dyke
Also that.
00:45:01
Grumpy Old Prop
the the Sharks player just put his hands arms down. like He gave it put a basket made a basket for it. and it's like So Webster just jumped up over and grabbed it before it could land in the basket.
00:45:12
Jarrod Dyke
Right, right, right, right.
00:45:13
Grumpy Old Prop
and It's like...
00:45:14
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:45:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Got to go get it at its highest point. You can't just let it come to you. Especially if you can't sink to it.
00:45:18
Jarrod Dyke
Always.
00:45:19
Grumpy Old Prop
And hey, but the Free Jacks have been living off of stupid back three play like that for a couple weeks, which is always entertaining.
00:45:28
Jarrod Dyke
well they've flipped off dumb back three playoff Miami for a couple of matches now I mean when you let the prop chase down the kick you deserve it you deserve it let's be honest uh yeah I yeah yeah the boys just played really well overall and um
00:45:32
Grumpy Old Prop
That's true. That's true.
00:45:37
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, that was awesome.
00:45:40
Grumpy Old Prop
That was so awesome.
00:45:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Oh.
00:45:49
Jarrod Dyke
They were smart and got Holland's head off because that is that is their best 10 right now because Hot Rots is done for the year.
00:45:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. and
00:45:55
Jarrod Dyke
we won't see Penny. We won't see Penny this year. Like, yeah, but it's that's the best decision possible is to keep Holland's head wrapped in wool while while we can.
00:46:01
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:46:05
Jarrod Dyke
This weekend may not be as fortunate with Chicago coming in, and this is a rematch of last year.
00:46:10
Grumpy Old Prop
No, at this point it's at this point, it's all hands on deck.
00:46:10
Jarrod Dyke
So,
00:46:13
Grumpy Old Prop
like
00:46:14
Jarrod Dyke
mm-hmm.
00:46:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Unless he's carrying an injury that's going to to question next week. um He's staying in.
00:46:22
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. Yep. So hopefully hopefully, I mean, we're we're gonna we're going to them we're going to the match next week too, and regardless, but you know.
00:46:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Or until the boys like make it clear. Yeah, we are.
00:46:33
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:46:33
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:46:34
Jarrod Dyke
MLR finals right down the road from us this year.
00:46:37
Grumpy Old Prop
is
00:46:38
Jarrod Dyke
Predetermined site. So fingers crossed, but still awesome. Yeah. yeah And while he didn't have any highlight plays, I thought Cam had another fantastic match.
00:46:49
Grumpy Old Prop
He did.
00:46:49
Jarrod Dyke
between his yeah yeah say between service and kicks i think he did a he did really good job yep so good on the boys hopefully they can carry it on for one more and then we can go to rhode island together tbd anywho um
00:46:49
Grumpy Old Prop
he got i The ball was always where it needed to be. He got it out quick with a plan. um had some good box kicks.
00:46:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:47:10
Grumpy Old Prop
Would be fun.
00:47:17
Jarrod Dyke
let's go to the fun um Maybe they outdid themselves.
00:47:29
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, honestly, like it's a small thing, but Ileone, when he came on for Leicester, made the impact they were looking for.
00:47:39
Jarrod Dyke
He's been good in sub-roll. Yeah, he's been good in sub-roll. I think that's fair to say.
00:47:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. um And you do that in the final, to come into a final and and change the tenor of the of the match. um Help. that That's huge.
00:47:53
Grumpy Old Prop
So, you know, that to me, I'm trying to think of of somebody from the match and really he was the one that that stood out as far as like, certainly that went above what I would expect from
00:47:55
Jarrod Dyke
Agreed.
00:48:03
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, no, I'm going agree with you on that one. um
00:48:10
Jarrod Dyke
Anybody that shat it, you in just a wee bit?
00:48:15
Grumpy Old Prop
um Well, Debra Senni, I thought, like you said, it's not really fair to him, but um yeah, he I thought he had a pretty shit game.
00:48:27
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I think I can think of a few folks that probably thought would think the same.
00:48:35
Jarrod Dyke
Any ref coach young players you want to point out?
00:48:41
Grumpy Old Prop
um young player to me i know it it might not quite fit but given the the scarcity of matches i'm gonna go with guy pepper um because again like so the and the reason that you know it's not even an outdid himself he just was himself like that's that's what you get it at peak guy pepper that's him on form and um
00:48:50
Jarrod Dyke
Same. I was looking at him too.
00:49:02
Jarrod Dyke
Played very well.
00:49:05
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:49:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, he's young and and you know is seeing things that are happening to players that are in his mold. And he's going to want that for himself too.
00:49:18
Jarrod Dyke
Right. Yeah, and he's good he's got chasing a lot at this point.
00:49:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:49:22
Jarrod Dyke
really is. a lot of guys that are putting their their names right in front of his, so hard to...
00:49:24
Grumpy Old Prop
He is.
00:49:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Two guys on the Saints. They're all the same age. Yeah.
00:49:33
Grumpy Old Prop
They're all mobile and hit like a truck and and put up put up some points.
00:49:37
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:49:39
Grumpy Old Prop
So they're gonna have to do a lot to differentiate themselves.
00:49:39
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, fair to say.
00:49:41
Grumpy Old Prop
One guy already is, the other has been hurt this year, and the other is Guy Pepper. yeah other the The third one being Pearson of the Saints to me.
00:49:49
Jarrod Dyke
Right. Yeah. Agreed. Try the week.
00:49:59
Grumpy Old Prop
i I think the Ojo Mo try, personally.
00:50:02
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:50:02
Grumpy Old Prop
um That, yeah. That was also, I think, Finn just being like, yeah, I'm done running. You're good.
00:50:10
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. No, I, I, I, um, no i i um I feel like Balacana's was immense in a lot of ways.
00:50:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Hmm.
00:50:21
Jarrod Dyke
While it was a high-quality try on top of it all, you know, just getting the the boys off on the right foot and really making mine ah put taking the air out of the balloon for Miami.
00:50:25
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:50:30
Jarrod Dyke
They're just like, ah, here we go again.
00:50:31
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:50:34
Grumpy Old Prop
How tired do you think they are of hearing Azaz?
00:50:37
Jarrod Dyke
oh super. Super.
00:50:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, I, I, I totally like, I never thought about it until Jared mentioned it this week where, where we were, we, we did had multiple occasions for Huzzah-ing after tries.
00:50:40
Jarrod Dyke
shiver
00:50:48
Grumpy Old Prop
And Jared's like, can imagine being in the team? How much that was, this would piss you off.
00:50:51
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:50:52
Grumpy Old Prop
was like, yeah, I like, yeah. Cause it's loud too. They, they can certainly hear it. They know what's going on.
00:51:03
Grumpy Old Prop
they would be something that i I would probably like hate that the other team does, even though it's fun doing it. It's fun as hell to do.
00:51:09
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, it's one of those things that just the other other team is like, I'm so sick of this shit. Yeah.
00:51:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Like I have to hear this again. Cause again, again, the sharks, like how many times have they heard that the last three years? Like it's just been constant.
00:51:19
Jarrod Dyke
Too many.
00:51:22
Grumpy Old Prop
And for many other teams that are, that, that come to, um, to Fort Quincy, it's like, like, Oh great. We're going to go where they has I after the tries, like,
00:51:32
Jarrod Dyke
Mm
00:51:33
Grumpy Old Prop
And we're going to hear it a lot because the free decks are good. Like ah that would just be one of those, man, I you want to keep the fans quiet. So it just, you almost take it personally when they do it.
00:51:43
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, right.
00:51:46
Jarrod Dyke
So much fun. um Player of the
00:51:54
Grumpy Old Prop
I, I got to go with Finn. He was just immense as he always is.
00:51:56
Jarrod Dyke
Hmm.
00:51:59
Grumpy Old Prop
um and delivered a win in in like on on and all fronts. he He was creative. He um was brave.
00:52:11
Grumpy Old Prop
And um he also managed the scoreboard really well.
00:52:15
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, we so we saw some of the best of Finn in this game.
00:52:16
Grumpy Old Prop
and
00:52:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:52:21
Jarrod Dyke
you know he i think he had one error that in very Finn fashion just forgot it. As soon as he did it, he forgot it. And I was like, that is...
00:52:29
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:52:31
Jarrod Dyke
Well, you want someone to be able to say go back and look at and say, all right, I need to fix that. At the same time, you don't. You are paying Finn Russell to be Finn Russell. You don't want him to turn into something else.
00:52:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. And he knows. like It's like it took a calculated risk and it failed. So, okay. and i'll I'll do it again. um It's not going to stop me from doing it again.
00:52:50
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, little Fervarian in some of those ways.
00:52:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Because it shouldn't. If you're... like Yeah, you play... it's It's the... You know, as as ah the... great sage prop uh craig mckenzie once said like it's cost of doing business like sometimes sometimes bad things happen when you try cool shit and but the thing is like people like finn and you know cipriani that you know that are in that mold like they're fun as hell to watch and they do win more than
00:53:18
Jarrod Dyke
Hmm.
00:53:21
Grumpy Old Prop
um you know the untalented like paint by numbers type tens or you know like so yeah even talented paint by numbers tens like you know george ford's a fine 10 with that he'll he'll he'll conduct it the orchestra the way you want him to but
00:53:29
Jarrod Dyke
hmm. Yeah. hmm.
00:53:44
Grumpy Old Prop
There's not going to be much variation or um and some improvisation every so often, but not a lot of it. And Finn is just like, no, there's a hole over there. I'm just going to put the ball there and oh, I'll just use my foot instead of passing it.
00:53:56
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, right.
00:53:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, okay, it it works.
00:53:57
Jarrod Dyke
Definitely.
00:53:59
Grumpy Old Prop
So what do you, why, why are we, know, are you not entertained?
00:54:04
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Are you not entertained?
00:54:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Is this not why you were here? Yeah, that is exactly why I'm there for that. yes
00:54:12
Jarrod Dyke
No shit, right? That's what you paid to go see, right? More or less. Dick of the week.
00:54:24
Grumpy Old Prop
Dolman. sort
00:54:26
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:54:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Fucking up an already fucked up game. Like, it was already messy enough.
00:54:28
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yeah. I have a special dick of the week.
00:54:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay.
00:54:34
Jarrod Dyke
I won't say the name, but the referee of our final from Saturday where we had ah player commit a foul against us and i quote, show me the blood.
00:54:35
Grumpy Old Prop
I didn't do it.
00:54:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh. Fuck. Yeah, he was a dick.
00:54:51
Jarrod Dyke
What? What?
00:54:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:54:52
Jarrod Dyke
What? Keep in mind, this guy is supposed to be in charge of refereeing for the high school in the area. That, to me, is... It's disappointing, but it's also, like, just disgraceful as well.
00:55:10
Jarrod Dyke
It's like, really? like So we're penalizing outcomes and not actions. So if as long as there's no blood, you can go ahead and do whatever whatever the fuck you want.
00:55:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. This was after.
00:55:18
Jarrod Dyke
i um Is that what I'm getting here? and
00:55:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, just this was after last week where the same referee, um Red, carded one of Jared's players for an offense he did not commit. um He was carded for um leading with the forearm.
00:55:34
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:55:34
Grumpy Old Prop
And he didn't do that. But the other player, like it was as he was running by him and just clipped. it they There was an elbow clipped to the head.
00:55:43
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:55:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Nothing intentional, just really.
00:55:47
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, it was a rugby incident.
00:55:47
Grumpy Old Prop
not a great job by the defender to be not, not trying to blame a victim here, but it's like, well, he didn't put his head in a good spot and, and and took an elbow for it.
00:55:52
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, was poor tackle technique. It was poor tackle technique. Yeah.
00:55:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, but he was bleeding.
00:55:56
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, we we had a similar one.
00:55:57
Grumpy Old Prop
So there, yeah. So the the ref said up red. And so, you know, the, this time a guy actually runs with his, out his forearm out at multiple players.
00:56:07
Jarrod Dyke
o
00:56:07
Grumpy Old Prop
And, and Jared brings us to his attention and and the, even the AR on our side, who's a good guy, um, like kind of, looked at you like, yeah, like this, like, you know, you might want to consider that.
00:56:22
Grumpy Old Prop
And yeah, that was, that was the referee's return was show me the blood.
00:56:22
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:56:25
Grumpy Old Prop
So yeah, no, it's just, no, I think that was him.
00:56:27
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, and didn't even give me the time of day at halftime either. Just... And i and i I was patient. I was patient and I waited for him to come away from whatever wherever area he was in.
00:56:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, you were.
00:56:37
Jarrod Dyke
I stayed in my technical box and didn't do anything where I you know i didn't pull a Ian Crowley were or Karen Crowley where I went over and you know made life hard on him.
00:56:39
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah Can confirm.
00:56:46
Grumpy Old Prop
ah Phil Knight.
00:56:47
Jarrod Dyke
I was waiting for him and he just shooed me off. So to you, sir, dick of the week because that is not okay.
00:56:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:56:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, that's a fair. He was a dick.
00:56:56
Jarrod Dyke
um We got one pick'em left. Chiefs Crusaders.
00:57:03
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm going with a better team.
00:57:07
Grumpy Old Prop
So Chiefs.
00:57:08
Jarrod Dyke
I hope they finally get it done, buddy. you You are three times bride means, but yet the bride. but
00:57:17
Grumpy Old Prop
I think this is their worst matchup yet though. So, I mean like their worst opponent yet. So i i think I'm feeling positive about it. i think there's a lot of um one-on-one matchups that favor the chiefs in this and it will, it will.
00:57:34
Jarrod Dyke
I think front row would be interesting.
00:57:37
Jarrod Dyke
I think front row would be interesting. I think back three will be interesting.
00:57:38
Grumpy Old Prop
The pack is actually the whole pack. I mean, you know, cause they don't have like,
00:57:41
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:57:46
Grumpy Old Prop
they kind of go punch for punch and in the front eight because it's like Satiti and um Leo Willey.
00:57:54
Jarrod Dyke
Legal Willie. Mm-hmm.
00:57:55
Grumpy Old Prop
um I would give the edge to Satiti and obviously for reasons, but that's not a, you know, I'd almost in the balance, on balance, give Crusaders the edge there in that back three because I'm not really a huge fan of Finau or Jacobson.
00:57:59
Jarrod Dyke
Same.
00:58:13
Grumpy Old Prop
They're good, but they're not like
00:58:14
Jarrod Dyke
who
00:58:18
Grumpy Old Prop
you know
00:58:18
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, you get get some all blacks on the other side.
00:58:18
Grumpy Old Prop
They're not bolters.
00:58:20
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:58:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. ah Exactly. and think Like Christie and... Fuck, they've been good. um
00:58:26
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:58:29
Grumpy Old Prop
So there's that. The locks, I think, are almost a wash, but it's kind of hard even hard to say that.
00:58:34
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:58:35
Grumpy Old Prop
um But then you get to the backs, and it's i to me, it's to a man. It favors the Chiefs.
00:58:41
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. It will be interesting. I'm looking forward to watching this one.
00:58:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:58:44
Jarrod Dyke
Hopefully it doesn't disappoint.
00:58:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Except maybe Will Jordan and Sean Stevenson. That is
00:58:52
Jarrod Dyke
That's box office. If they both play to their to their to their abilities, that's going to be ah otherworldly for sure.
00:58:58
Grumpy Old Prop
not to register as 18 just to be able to watch it
00:59:02
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:59:06
Jarrod Dyke
ah Shit. All right. So that's that. We... um We're going to do a very brief fancy corner in a minute here. If you want to have a listen to that, we'll see you over there. If not, enjoy the Super Rugby final and the Lions match and all that stuff. And we'll catch you guys next week. Have a good one. Thank you listening.
00:59:24
Grumpy Old Prop
Later.
00:59:25
Jarrod Dyke
Cheers.