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Jarrod Dyke: Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the Fantasy Rugby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm Ben Glauser, I think.
Jarrod Dyke: but be's ble's but Ben's playing hurt today, so... But we're gonna we're gonna give it the old college try, as our friends at Letterkenny might say.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. I'm powering through.
Jarrod Dyke: Which means I'm not gonna show Ben this beer, but I'm gonna pop.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, want beer. But I can't have it right now.
Jarrod Dyke: No, it's probably best scenario for all around that you don't, including your wife, so she doesn't have look after your stupid ass...
Grumpy Old Prop: She always does anyway. Anyway.
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Jarrod Dyke: we keep We're going to keep it sweet for this one for the discrimination this week. Stop being assholes, everyone. Please. Including you Republicans.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, especially to trans people, there's no fucking need for it.
Jarrod Dyke: You fuckers. Oh, yeah. Especially.
Grumpy Old Prop: And especially with the government coming down on it.
Jarrod Dyke: Especially.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, what the fuck? but Like, people are people. Stop trying to stop trying to, like, divide us. This fucking sucks. And yeah, they're like, I think they're...
Jarrod Dyke: Don't fuck with the state of Maine, though.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes, don't fuck with state of Maine. That was awesome. And um the state of Pennsylvania, though sorry, not the state of Pennsylvania, the the state of Philadelphia um also basically told Trump on that to pound sand.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, they don't even care what the rest of the state does. They're like, no, we're we're doing our own thing. You all can fuck off. So Maine and pennsylvania and and Philadelphia representing, good for us.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, I get the sense there'll be more.
Grumpy Old Prop: You can see where we come from.
Jarrod Dyke: yes make sure you grab grab our patreon we will have a super rugby analytics sheet um i'll probably put we'll probably post it after this coming weekend because that'll be at least a decent amount of data by this point because at least everyone will play twice at this by now minimum there'll be some that are that have played three times obviously which will be more helpful and it's all based on average anyway so that'll be only good
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: Tell me something good. Okay, we've got lots to rattle through. We'll touch on PWR. We kind of knew the things that happened this past weekend were going to happen because of the weekend.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, and no surprises really.
Jarrod Dyke: Basically because results the weekend before, we kind knew this is how it's going to probably end up and held true.
Grumpy Old Prop: from
Jarrod Dyke: Although, Lester gave Exeter the good old fight on the last day the weekend, so good for them.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, good for Leicester.
Jarrod Dyke: nice to see them Nice to see them getting getting up and and putting up a fight again. We talked about them, Shellfinders, Loughborough, all all yeah making life hard on teams. Sale, man.
Grumpy Old Prop: Not making life hard on teams.
Jarrod Dyke: Exeter Chiefs are going to see Sale. They're going to see Sale in their nightmares. Like, oh my God. that That loss that lost to them, this year, that is just going to live in infamy for Sale this year.
Grumpy Old Prop: How did we lose to them? but
Jarrod Dyke: But at the same time, like, damn. Damn, damn, damn.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, but also it's Exeter. Fuck Exeter.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, i'm I'm okay with that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Although, not quite the same as the women's team as a men's team, but um still.
Jarrod Dyke: Still.
Grumpy Old Prop: Close enough.
Jarrod Dyke: yes Applebee's good for a win-jury once in a while. So, yeah. um The game of the week over here was Glosser-Harpry and Quinn's. and it It was a halftime solid halftime lead with three tries on the board for um the hosts.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: And Never really turned back after that.
Grumpy Old Prop: No.
Jarrod Dyke: And Quinns were... It really was the only thing that was kind of somewhat waiting on. We knew it was going to Gloucester-Harperie and Bristol. It was a matter ah We knew it was going be Saracens and Quinns. It was just a matter of where.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Is it going to be at the Stone X? Is it going to be at the Stoop? It's going be bit at the Stone X. So the road to the final goes through the Stone X.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: Bring it on, friends. Let's do it.
Jarrod Dyke: Okay. Let's dive into this thing. Six Nations, round three. um Before we dive too far into it, there was a topic of... um
Jarrod Dyke: This tournament being probably a little too spread out at this point, because now we're in a bye week again.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, I don't want to like that.
Jarrod Dyke: i feel like we can... do three rounds or two rounds, either or have a break, and then we can do the final rounds after that. And that's enough.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: And I listen, I am not against like player welfare for fair or anything of that sort. Trust me, I'm right the top of list of people that want players to be looked after, but just feels like it also, think someone said the word momentum.
Grumpy Old Prop: will
Jarrod Dyke: It yeah, momentum and viewership kind of just,
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: Waxes and wanes and and you're you're relying on a lot of things. So go your way when you take and when you take ah when you take these chances of of downtime.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah ah no one one yeah
Jarrod Dyke: So just an idea.
Jarrod Dyke: And now Roman and Tamak was not going to play for to lose on the down week. So ah we I think he's going to be back this week. Next week, whatever it is, one of those weeks, whatever it is. But anyway, let's go to the principality first.
Jarrod Dyke: You know, Wales were super clunky, but they were, and i I think the word I've seen the most is like courageous and heart and play with passion. Probably the best way to describe it. Was it pretty? Hell no.
Jarrod Dyke: that Were there some great players individually? Yes. Like we saw the two back three guys, Murray and me, like they they really played their bums off.
Grumpy Old Prop: They did.
Jarrod Dyke: um Captain Jack Morgan, he there's one there's probably one person that's absolutely on the plane to Australia for Wales, and it's him.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: without a doubt him in my brain so and i don't have anybody else there
Grumpy Old Prop: That's hard to argue. i mean, he's got to be on it, but yeah, it's hard it's kind of hard to find another.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah after and we'll see we got three we got two more games here maybe some of the players that played in this game well can back it but they made they made island win it ugly like you island you know they were a little ugly in edinburgh a couple weeks a few weeks ago but this was even uglier
Grumpy Old Prop: right They did.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah I think if we're were honest.
Grumpy Old Prop: It has been a clunky Six Nations in general.
Jarrod Dyke: Yes, i'm I'm totally in agreement with that.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's not been a well-played Six Nations. um And yeah, this was way closer than it should have been. And you know credit to Wales for that. The island weren't like They don't look right.
Grumpy Old Prop: They look off. And that's even with Prendergrass just throwing seeds all over the fucking place.
Jarrod Dyke: Oh my God. The dude is just throwing darts at like, you know, 30 meters or so. It's like, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Come on, man. How do you how do you not sit there and just be in awe of this guy's draw talent?
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Just give him time in the driver's seat and he's going to turn into a real, real good player.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep. Which... Which they're gonna do, and that's that's awesome.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: But also, you know... why Why is Conan coming off and not Peter Omani?
Jarrod Dyke: I... I question that. And why is it Baird that's in there as the back row sub? Really? Like...
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah we've we've talked about Barrett a little bit. he's He's a six at best if he's going to in your back row.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: And he's a solid six. you know
Grumpy Old Prop: But that means you take off Conan for Baird, and now it's like Baird and Omani who are like...
Jarrod Dyke: But I just
Grumpy Old Prop: Neither are real-world beaters at this point. No no disrespect to to Peter. just not no you know He's not what he used to be. and you know You can't just have... Again, it's that can't have four locks out on the field, essentially.
Grumpy Old Prop: Not that that's exactly like that, but Omani is like ah six, and Baird's a six.
Jarrod Dyke: Same sentiment. Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Fortunately, you've got Ty Barron, and McCarthy can actually run.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep. He plays like a back row sometimes.
Grumpy Old Prop: so
Jarrod Dyke: Yep, that is true.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. so but it'
Jarrod Dyke: That is true.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's four sixes out there, which is odd. and't
Jarrod Dyke: Really? Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: didn't help them enough.
Jarrod Dyke: No. No, no, no.
Grumpy Old Prop: Of course, the red to ring roast really didn't help.
Jarrod Dyke: That's what Consuelo would say.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, but don't you know that red cards were in matches? Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. This match was ruined.
Jarrod Dyke: It's ruined, I say. It's ruined. um
Jarrod Dyke: i I don't hate the guy, but at the same time, I i see where people lost faith in Jared Evans. like He came on for Anscombe, and you could see the problems start to come come around for Wales. And i was like, this is why they don't want him in a Wales shirt. Now I understand.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: things definitely The wheels definitely came off a little bit, I would i dare say.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, yeah. that That kind of was it. um not You know, not the worst player, but he's just not international quality.
Jarrod Dyke: no No, I don't believe so at all.
Grumpy Old Prop: He's good for backing up um Marcus at the Prem level.
Jarrod Dyke: um
Jarrod Dyke: that's probably the but That's probably the nicest thing we can say about honestly.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's about it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. that there's anything wrong with with backing. I mean, he could he could be a like a, you know, a club starter. um Solid club starter, but not like, not world beater. And yeah, bring him up a level is not not going to work.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. I'm still I'm still scratching my head why Aaron Wainwright's a part of this team for Wales.
Jarrod Dyke: I don't see it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: I don't see it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Well, who else? Who else they got?
Jarrod Dyke: I don't I would imagine this. God. God. I mean, of the guys that they've that they've had in the past, I will say, there's got to be someone else. Like Plumtree Basham, I don't know if they're healthy or not, but I would certainly give them a look before ah did two.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Yeah, Basham. I like him.
Jarrod Dyke: So those are the ones I would kind of keep my eyes on.
Grumpy Old Prop: Kind of same with Faletel. I don't think he... Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Well, to have the two of those guys in the back row, it's not dissimilar to what we were just talking about with Omani and Baird.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Guys that just would rather run into brick walls as opposed to find space and and attack.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's just like... Yeah, and I get what Faletel used to be a couple years ago. He's not that now.
Grumpy Old Prop: And like he reminds me of those guys who like when you're playing club rugby and you have it one teammate just runs into few people and it's like, you just go, yeah! And then you can't help not you know get up do it.
Grumpy Old Prop: But like that's not the game.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Certainly not at this level either. So, not anymore.
Jarrod Dyke: No.
Jarrod Dyke: How about but ja the James Lowe assist on the Jamie Osborne try? Oh, man.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah Yeah, that was tasty.
Jarrod Dyke: That is...
Grumpy Old Prop: That was just because you think he's going like I thought he was going up for the ball.
Jarrod Dyke: move
Grumpy Old Prop: like I thought it was, you know, James Lobey and like, yeah, I'll just take this game over. And instead he's like, you know what? That's contested. Best thing I can do is just, you know, punch it to my teammate.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, tap it down to my friend. Yep, and he did. And it's just a...
Grumpy Old Prop: When the Green Goblin gets over.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: What was the son's name?
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, fuck.
Jarrod Dyke: Norman is the is the dad.
Grumpy Old Prop: Norman's a dad. Yeah. um
Jarrod Dyke: Damn it. That's going to annoy me.
Grumpy Old Prop: I don't remember.
Jarrod Dyke: I should know that. ah I'll think of it later. It'll hit me.
Grumpy Old Prop: Harry Osborn.
Jarrod Dyke: It'll hit me. That's it. Well done. Well played.
Grumpy Old Prop: but but Thank Google. I did it right. I looked it up real quick.
Jarrod Dyke: Okay, there you go.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, and um for the sake of, yeah, for the sake of like, talk about Irish guys that probably don't need to be in the team anymore, like,
Jarrod Dyke: I would really, i i think I don't have alien X, right?
Jarrod Dyke: Pretty sure.
Grumpy Old Prop: um One moment.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, England have Italy, Ireland of France.
Jarrod Dyke: but geez. So they got Emily.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: That's tough. i I was hoping they would have Italy. Cause I would say, get it you clue into that game.
Grumpy Old Prop: Hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: I still say, get him in there anyway. I think he's better than James Ryan. Um, Joe McCarthy being back was huge for this team. but That was clear.
Grumpy Old Prop: Hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: um Yeah, there was still some still some there's still some holes in this in this Irish team, but the fact that there's still holes and we're still talking about them being undefeated as well is a testament to them just being able to gut it out.
Jarrod Dyke: Bundy came on and made a huge difference after the red card was up, which makes me think that I don't like that red card rule again, but you know that's different story for a different day.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Different story.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah We can argue that until you know we're blue in the face here.
Grumpy Old Prop: Different.
Jarrod Dyke: But in any case, Ireland's still undefeated. Grand Slam's still on.
Grumpy Old Prop: It is. Well, we'll see.
Jarrod Dyke: Good luck.
Grumpy Old Prop: This weekend is is the kind of decider for that. so Or not this weekend. Next weekend.
Jarrod Dyke: Next, yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Because they have a bye again.
Jarrod Dyke: I know.
Grumpy Old Prop: We just spent time talking about that. And I lost it.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, you know. Little bit of this, little that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: So, question for you.
Jarrod Dyke: Let's shoot.
Grumpy Old Prop: are you can score three tries and lose sixteen fifteen to a team that only scores one?
Jarrod Dyke: And the one was questionable as well.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: ah
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes.
Jarrod Dyke: I mean,
Jarrod Dyke: it's a matter of Scotland not being quite creative enough in attack, although they obviously were enough to get three tries. Finn not being able to convert. And then England having the defense to just shove them back every time they got in that 22. Where's the 22 time? Because there was bit of it.
Jarrod Dyke: because there was there was quite a bit of it
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, that England defense is actually now impressive.
Jarrod Dyke: Territory overall is 58.
Jarrod Dyke: Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: They've gone all the way around again.
Jarrod Dyke: I was...
Grumpy Old Prop: They've been really tough this um but Six Nations. you know the The France game notwithstanding, but at the same time, yeah, France made errors, but they weren't exactly unforced errors. Sometimes they kind of were, but we still had guys here in footsteps, and that's what helped knock on.
Jarrod Dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: But still, against this solid defense, he scored three tries.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's got to be a dub. And yeah, I wonder if Finn is is still feeling the effects of ah ah that the collision with Bram.
Jarrod Dyke: That concussion. I mean, they were, those were, yeah'd you'd hope he'd make one of them, but none of them were real, real easy ones. They were all way out on the touchline. That was the really, you know, annoying thing, I'm sure from his view, but and but he also holds himself to a higher standard.
Jarrod Dyke: So I'm sure he's kicking himself. I
Grumpy Old Prop: The Ben White try wasn't that far out.
Jarrod Dyke: think it was. It was somewhere between that five and 15, which is not easy.
Grumpy Old Prop: And there was one, and it may have been that try, it may have been the Dewey try, where the ref walked out the kick back, like, over to the 5-meter, and it wasn't there. It was definitely closer to the 15.
Grumpy Old Prop: And the ref was like, nope, you can come over here. So,
Jarrod Dyke: Bruce Bursette was horrible this game.
Grumpy Old Prop: um not great.
Jarrod Dyke: Oh my God.
Grumpy Old Prop: Not good.
Jarrod Dyke: He was trashed both ways, but like,
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: There's what I, what i really dislike about any referee that's especially referees that are bad is no, no, I'm the referee. I'm right. Your decision matters, but your accuracy is dog shit.
Jarrod Dyke: That's what really it should be said.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: Like, and you heard, we heard it on Sunday as well. I think Dixon, and it was either Dixon or maybe it was ah Nick Berry and super rugby, but one of them said, I'm, you know, if I got it wrong, I'm sorry.
Jarrod Dyke: You know, that's that's what I saw. And at least being able to do that,
Grumpy Old Prop: that's a better
Jarrod Dyke: is a such a better approach about yourself.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: Even if you're not as quality of a referee as another guy, like to be able to say, all right, I screwed it up. It tells me that one, they're trying to get better. I hope all these referees are, but really when you have that attitude that Brissette does where he's just like, no, no, no, I'm right.
Grumpy Old Prop: but
Jarrod Dyke: And I'm like, pretty much no matter what, or, you know, the conversations aren't really going to happen. yeah Tells me that you have no interest in getting better and you're just going to be talk shit for the rare ranger your career.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Cause like what you do as a ref at that point is, okay. Yeah. i may have missed that one. You get the benefit of like, you find another call that might be, you know, might be consequential, might not.
Jarrod Dyke: 50 odd.
Grumpy Old Prop: And you you just give it to the team. You kind of fuck. See there, that was, that were even, you can move on.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. And it's, ah it's, so it's often a subconscious thing even, you know,
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. But like, you know, I don't, I haven't reffed that many games and obviously I'm not reffing it anywhere near this level, but like, that's my take on it is you kind of have a, that count in your head of, okay, I've penalized this team a lot for these things. Cause you kind of, you know, you see them,
Grumpy Old Prop: doing things you're all keep doing that like i'm gonna see it but sometimes you yeah you miss one you're like like a knock that should have been called you're like yeah i'll get you back like you kind of have that count in your head of okay did i fuck them or maybe or did i like let them get away with something yeah i'll i'll i'll run it back on them later yeah
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, that's just a that's just a human thing, quite quite frankly. Yeah, and just...
Grumpy Old Prop: but do that no what the fuck
Jarrod Dyke: The 6-2 split, the 6-2 split still is just pissing me off. Like, at least they were able to play Jamie Dobia's proper position this time around.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes, he
Jarrod Dyke: Jamie Ritchie was immense this game. Like, there should be no more conversation of Matt Fagerson starting in this team, let alone being in this team, but definitely not starting as long as those three guys that's played in this back row this week are healthy.
Grumpy Old Prop: yes he was. Yeah. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Simple as that.
Jarrod Dyke: so yeah well done to jamie richie and earning and giving giving grega grega townsend the fuck you but like don't drop me next time dick
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: and then would be silly to just pass over the the defensive effort of finn smith like i see the sticks that this kid's making and he's just not afraid he's Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Everyone says, oh he's playing 10. He's a, and listen, I, I plan to run a tens myself when I'm playing, when I'm coaching my teams, that will not be the case.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: Should I ever come up against a lot the likes of Smith, Finn Smith. It's like, no, we're not running at that guy.
Grumpy Old Prop: know yeah not yeah run run a slate we'll do much better
Jarrod Dyke: We're going to find another one. Henry Slade.
Jarrod Dyke: But yeah. yeah Well, a credit is Finn Smith. He's making that Jersey zone. I'm, I'm proud of him.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah yeah
Jarrod Dyke: I'm, I'm, yeah we were talking You and I have a friend a mutual English friend that was just like, can we play someone that besides Ford and Marcus? I was like, yeah, we can you could play Finn, but you got to have the balls to pick him.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: Finally, Bartho shows some stones and picks him.
Grumpy Old Prop: But I like Smith and Smith. I like Marcus at 15. That works really well. It's that, again, that Damien McKenzie type impact where he doesn't have to run the team. He just has to like spot space.
Grumpy Old Prop: Give me the ball.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, he's he's the rare ability that can do both.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like that's.
Jarrod Dyke: Bowden Bear being another one that I can think of off the top my head. Can do both well.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: So... Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: And we'd be, we also need to be remi we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Hugh Jones at all.
Jarrod Dyke: ah
Grumpy Old Prop: Cause all that guy does is is produce. I was talking to my, ah ah the the club president who's an an Ireland fan. And he's talking about like, Rymrose is like the only person putting his hand up for 13 on the Lions.
Grumpy Old Prop: And I'm like, um excuse me, mr Mr.
Jarrod Dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: Hugh Jones might have something to say about that.
Jarrod Dyke: No, no, no, no.
Grumpy Old Prop: He was like, oh yeah. He was like, I thought Hugh played 12. I'm like, no, he's 13.
Jarrod Dyke: No, that's 13. They're trying to find a replacement for two weeks below to it.
Grumpy Old Prop: For Tua Palazzo, who's a 12.
Jarrod Dyke: 12 while he's out. So, yeah. No, that's that's what's up right there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: So, no, ah yeah. A few gems has has been immense for this team. and Do I think England absolutely are in the Calcutta Cup? No. I think if this is played at...
Jarrod Dyke: at Murrayfield, then this is the Scotland wins it. So I think...
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, I think you play this this specific game right here 10 times. I think Scotland win 7 8 of them.
Jarrod Dyke: It's probably true.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's just this was this was the one or two or three that England just squeaked it out.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, and in the end, it's just Scotland's silliness ill-discipline that bit him, giving England you know three penalties in kicking distance to to hit. That's just something you to know. You just got to have it in your head. Listen, we can outscore these guys.
Jarrod Dyke: But if we're not smart in our own end, we could bet and we could easily get bit. They did. They did. They did. They did.
Jarrod Dyke: We don't need to get too much into the Italy France game.
Grumpy Old Prop: mean, Italy, you scored 24 points versus France. That's actually really really well... 73. Holy fuck. No. really well Yeah,
Jarrod Dyke: Nope. Nope. Not that well done. Because she gave up more than, like, triple of that. Like, Jesus.
Grumpy Old Prop: seventy-three holy fark
Jarrod Dyke: And people will say, well, you know, shouldn't Italy be considered, you know, in a down because of that? No. This is a very angry France team that knew they this spit it the other week, so they wanted to make up for it.
Grumpy Old Prop: no yeah because
Grumpy Old Prop: I had two weeks to stew in it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Two. So it's not like they, it wasn't just like, you know, they're pissed, but it's like you had two weeks of um getting like reamed out by the coaches for dropping balls. And they're like, no, we are, when we catch the ball, we put it down.
Grumpy Old Prop: we don't drop it. We put it down over the line.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, right.
Grumpy Old Prop: that And they did that a few times.
Jarrod Dyke: Many times.
Grumpy Old Prop: A few. You're there.
Jarrod Dyke: Many times. I...
Jarrod Dyke: Like... 7-1. I'm just so sick of this 7-1-6-2 bullshit.
Grumpy Old Prop: I don't even get it for this.
Jarrod Dyke: Like...
Grumpy Old Prop: like you know like wouldn't you want to be be able to You'd want to be able to take out...
Jarrod Dyke: That's just being a dick.
Grumpy Old Prop: Well, they did take out Ramos. um
Jarrod Dyke: It's the only one that took out, though.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. like You also want to be able to take out DuPont.
Jarrod Dyke: I would like to take DuPont off.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Like, without a doubt, your best player?
Grumpy Old Prop: Right, maybe give him a rest.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, take him off, give him a rest, make sure he doesn't get
Grumpy Old Prop: Because didn't they... Did they take out Aldrete?
Jarrod Dyke: hurt. Yes, he came off with that big line change zone that didn't come off was Kroos.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay. Okay.
Jarrod Dyke: The and six there. um Yeah, it's really like... So you're telling me that you because your forwards are either that unfit or whatever, you need seven forwards or even six forwards, and you're then banking on, one your back line coming through almost completely healthy, and two, none of them are going to get tired and need a sub.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Like, i we we talked about... it's been talked about the freaking heart rate monitors on these on these guys and how they're they're used to you know no like to a scientific end and it's like you're telling me those things aren't reading that the heart rates have gone up above that that threshold or even started to approach it and maybe you know visually you see a guy and go it wouldn't have made a difference this game but i'm just talking in general
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: um Visually, you see a guy, whether or not the heart rate says one thing, if you see a guy, and it's like, all right, you're dogged. Like, let's get you off because you're useless at this point.
Grumpy Old Prop: who
Jarrod Dyke: And i don't need you to become a whole. So I don't know. I think it's really
Jarrod Dyke: stupid at the minimum and arrogant at the worst. So you're going to continue to do that shit, guys, go fuck yourself.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: Like, all the way.
Grumpy Old Prop: Something like that.
Jarrod Dyke: All the way. All right. Let's go Super Rugby. um Chief Crusaders.
Grumpy Old Prop: Woo!
Jarrod Dyke: Wow. just I'm watching this game. Actually, was watching this game at the gym, and people are just like, does this usually happen with these guys?
Grumpy Old Prop: but
Jarrod Dyke: I'm like, not this good.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Not this good. It was yeah impressive, to say the least.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, and, um you know shame for Puy Hippie. um But Tupaya comes on. It's like, great, okay. you know so And Puy Hippie's great. yeah didn't he Did he have a try already?
Jarrod Dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, he didn't score. I thought he might have, but no, Tupaya scored all the tries for the centers.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Grumpy Old Prop: So, yeah, like he comes out. It's like, oh, we'll just put an all black in.
Grumpy Old Prop: Also, every time I see Quintu Paya kicking ass, when I want to curse Darcy Swain's name, but that's another story.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah think a lot of people do, quite honestly.
Grumpy Old Prop: But, um you know, this Leroy Cotter looks like a ah real player. um this This attack just, again, the attack just works with with um with Jacob at 10 and McKenzie at 15. That's what you want.
Grumpy Old Prop: Just do more of that, please.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, really.
Grumpy Old Prop: And this Preston kid can play on the other side.
Jarrod Dyke: yes
Grumpy Old Prop: Where the fuck do they find these guys?
Jarrod Dyke: What was the was like guy, Bryn Evans, that was playing? Was he the one that was playing nine along with Drummond? These two guys are kind of the opposite of that between Preston and Hotham.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Hotham's obviously hurt after the other week, but yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: um Damn. Like, this is definitely kind of opposite of what the Crusaders have had at nine for a long time now.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Pretty awesome for them.
Grumpy Old Prop: And it's it's it's great to see um it's going to lead to success for them. And then also, just to like you were saying earlier, just have the balls to be like, yeah, okay, we'll put crop Preston in. Instead of saying, okay, you know instead of having him start against the team that was in the finals last year, we we'll have Drummond.
Grumpy Old Prop: He's been here before. He's played. Nothing's going to be ah shock to him. they're Like, no, no, no. Let the kid run. That's...
Jarrod Dyke: I mean, he he impressed against the against the Hurricanes the week before, so it was really hard to keep him off the field there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: It is, but at the same time, like you know it's it's easy to have that like dumb kid energy when you're like thrown on early in a match and just kind of go and express yourself because there's no pressure. But like when you're starting and you have that time to think about it before it happens, um there's a lot there.
Grumpy Old Prop: And yeah, sometimes you know so a lot of coaches would would put a drummond in it instead. But kudos to the Crusaders staff to to to lean on the kid. And he's he's rewarding him.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, despite the scoreline in this game, yeah, he's playing really well.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: Well, let's jump over to Brizzy. Red's Moana. Moana, the week before, impressive in many ways, and there's still some great things about this team. They're just, they're going to have to figure out ways to win because it's not something they have done a ton of.
Jarrod Dyke: Artie's going to help them lead the way for to a point, but he is only one man, and he's going need some help.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: There's some good players on this team. We saw it. um Kyron Temafilow, like, oh okay, everyone knows who he is now.
Grumpy Old Prop: who Yep.
Jarrod Dyke: um We knew who Elamala was, even though he was kind of banged up the year in previous years, but we knew his talent level at least was up way up there. So now we're starting to see that come good now that he's healthy. So there's some good things for Moana, but um other side of it, there's a lot to like about this Reds team.
Grumpy Old Prop: So much to like.
Jarrod Dyke: like And we talked about playing young guys like Tom Lina and Harry McLaughlin Phelps. Like, ooh. Like, got two very young, very talented playmakers.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like to the point where you can, you can let like a James O'Connor go.
Jarrod Dyke: Couldn't believe it. i was like, wow, you... You let him walk? Okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: and then Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: And, I mean, they're repaying, the in this game, at the ah at least, they've repaid the faith. So, you know, it's it's on them to do that, these two guys.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: One of them is inevitably going to do it. We know Tom Lina has already kind of done that. um Harry McLaughlin Phillips, your turn.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: know, make sure you show show out when you're given your chances and you'll You'll be rewarded and good things happen to you otherwise.
Grumpy Old Prop: mean, it helps that they have... That's ah that's a stacked back line, though.
Jarrod Dyke: It's a solid backline, without a doubt.
Grumpy Old Prop: it's it's It's not that hard to to just slot in. mean, if you have a little bit of talent and and knowledge and whatnot, like even if you're young, you slat you just be like, okay, well, look, um I'm going to give the ball to Mr.
Jarrod Dyke: Decent coaching will help it usually too.
Grumpy Old Prop: Paisami or Mr. Fluke Or Mr. Ryan. Or...
Jarrod Dyke: Ryan, oh man.
Grumpy Old Prop: Dogooner. Like, Junkyard Dog is... is
Jarrod Dyke: He's a thing.
Grumpy Old Prop: um He's a thing. It's, you know...
Jarrod Dyke: He's a thing. Don't want to fool you.
Grumpy Old Prop: Doesn't look like he's gonna have a sophomore slump, so...
Jarrod Dyke: No, looking good. Paisami is going to miss the next couple of games. He got cited after his yellow, which I was like, yeah you're lucky that's a yellow.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Let's see.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: Three weeks.
Grumpy Old Prop: oh
Jarrod Dyke: So he'll Force.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's not... No. Yes, it is. Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Nah. Crusaders, oh, man, he's going to miss the the Classic. He's goingnna miss Reds, Taz. That sucks.
Grumpy Old Prop: oh
Jarrod Dyke: that's If you're a Reds player, that's one you want play in. That sucks.
Grumpy Old Prop: yes it is
Jarrod Dyke: But don't be dumb in the end. So, you know, just saying. and Throwing that idea out there, you know, just little bit.
Jarrod Dyke: But, yeah, reds Reds look really good. You know, we talked about which team in Australia is going to step up. Maybe it's them. maybe it's them um they got the talent level without a doubt they need some guys to um rise to the top but yep not bad um let's head over to
Grumpy Old Prop: Maybe.
Jarrod Dyke: ah one that made me lose a few years on my life hurricanes and druah um
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: So it was, it was, oh man, I was, I was watching.
Grumpy Old Prop: How were your drawers after that one? Stained on both sides.
Jarrod Dyke: I watched, so I watched part of this one.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: I got, I get, I work on Saturday mornings. I got up and I watched about the first half while I was sitting there drinking my coffee before I went to work.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: And then I usually pop in about 45 minutes to an hour ahead of when I'm supposed to start coaching and during that I do a workout and watch watch whatever game I had on beforehand it was this one so a couple people in my gym got to see what I'm like when I'm watching especially when I'm watching rugby in a team I care about um
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: so yeah that was fun I mean this is probably the way this team's gonna live for the first half of the year at least um They're going to go as Cam Roy Gargos, and that's how it's going to be.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Harry Godfrey is, again, another very young, talented, extremely raw
Jarrod Dyke: player that's goingnna ah that's starting to come good already. But, um yeah, looks really, really good for for these guys.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Dewey, apart from his silly yellow card,
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: is making, is impressing me. He's impressing the shit out of me. I got it. It's got to be said. um Last two weeks, the new guy coming off but um New Zealand 7's Fiddyang Gofo.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, he's looking good too. So yeah, lots to like about that. About that. there's There's still so many problems. Understandably, I'm not denying that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: You know, this, the way this,
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: kind of played out. There was a lot of mistakes made that the Druid were happy to capitalize on, but we were able to, you know, do our own damage just enough by the end. The Godfrey, yeah, the Godfrey, the trial that Godfrey created, and then I believe it was the one right before Half um that went to, thinking think I think it went to Brennan Goffo.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: and And those two bits of play right there just tells me like he's up for the challenge. He's just got to keep his head on his shoulders and not get ahead of himself. But yeah, I like i like a lot.
Jarrod Dyke: James Dorman still sucks ass.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah yes
Jarrod Dyke: There were calls he was making up. I'm like, really? And there were he missed there were a couple that he missed both ways, and I'm just like, so that's not a lot. Okay, that's that that really is stupid, but I guess at least you'd played it both ways. But there were others, I'm just like, I'm pretty sure you called that exact same thing the other way, the other time.
Jarrod Dyke: What the actual fuck, dude. So... Another example why he shouldn't be anywhere near international rugby. Speaking of, like, there were, like, Ridley, same thing. Like, what the fuck was he doing refereeing a Six Nations game?
Grumpy Old Prop: oh Yeah, that was no no need.
Jarrod Dyke: Oof. Oof. Well, rugby, you've gone batty. I mean, yes, but, like, damn.
Jarrod Dyke: head Let's head over to forsight Bar. And... and
Grumpy Old Prop: This is like, to me, this was the game of the week. Um, must watch because i mean, I know you're thinking like, you know, going into it, you're like, oh, it's high they're going to get fucking run off the pitch by the blues.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, the deception that, oh, wait, the Highlanders are going to honor Connor garden bash up. Um,
Jarrod Dyke: pregame, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: And have his brother there and have like the stadium sing.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: And, you know, a lot of his like teammates growing up in the lineup who are going to do him right.
Jarrod Dyke: yep
Grumpy Old Prop: And man, if you like, if you want to watch an inspiring effort, like this Highlanders team um was, was it And obviously no one ah more so than Tava Tavanawe who was just like, I am not letting my team lose this game.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, immense.
Grumpy Old Prop: like I am i'm doing everything I can.
Jarrod Dyke: Nope.
Grumpy Old Prop: to you know We're down to 13 because DeGru gets hurt early and then Leonard Brown gets the, was it a red? um
Jarrod Dyke: Yep, and he's going to miss three weeks as well.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: So like, you know, again, another match ruined by a red card. Ruined.
Jarrod Dyke: It's ruined. It's ruined, I say.
Grumpy Old Prop: But, you know, nobody told Taven to Have an Ally. No one told Finn Hurley. No
Jarrod Dyke: No, I know there's, there's some really good things going on with that Highlanders back three between him.
Grumpy Old Prop: one told Gilbert. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: And Tingy Tao and like, yeah, there's some, yeah, there's some good things happening for them.
Grumpy Old Prop: its out yeah
Jarrod Dyke: um Things that I definitely wasn't expecting, you know, not that I have a ton of research going on in my, up my sleeve for this tournament until we get there, but damn, damn, damn, damn.
Grumpy Old Prop: her
Jarrod Dyke: Extremely impressive. Extremely impressive for these guys.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, and the Blues, like, but yeah you know i know, I know you're, like, you've got a lot against you, but damn, like, a lot of not showing up from this team.
Jarrod Dyke: hmm like where was Talia where was it where was the 2-2 I know this is his first game but still where the fuck was he know a little bit yep
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, I don't know. Where was Yeah. Yeah. yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. I saw Papa Lee a little bit, but not not nearly enough. Tui Palazzo, I didn't see at all. Like, just their guys who were, you know, quality just didn't didn't show up. And I'm not really buying the the Harry Plummer experience here.
Jarrod Dyke: Well, he'll be gone after this season, so...
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Maybe they can let him go now. ah Yeah, I don't know what's going on with this Blues team.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: this is they're They're way too good to be...
Jarrod Dyke: to be on, what, zero points right now?
Grumpy Old Prop: dicking around like this. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Or maybe they have one point, but still, like, come on, really? is it Is that really what this team's for?
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: No. No, no, no. Don't believe it, but... Yeah, extremely inspired from the Highlanders. Like, if you have not watched this game, stop what you're doing.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, go ah watch it.
Jarrod Dyke: Go watch it. you You can stop listening to us, even.
Grumpy Old Prop: you know while you're While you're going to watch it, continue listening to us, but go watch it. Like, go prepare to watch it while we while we finish up here.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, Blues have zero points.
Jarrod Dyke: Or even if you want to turn us off and just go watch it, I'm okay with that, too.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, that's right. come Check back in on us afterwards and and let us know how awesome, like, you know, how, wow, that was a great recommendation.
Jarrod Dyke: Quite honestly.
Grumpy Old Prop: Thank you so much for it.
Jarrod Dyke: Right. Yeah, absolutely. ah Let's jump to GIO. Last one of the weekend. Did not have this on my bingo board.
Jarrod Dyke: By any means.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah Yeah. I... Brumby's not showing up and then showing up and then... if
Jarrod Dyke: Then spinning it at the end.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Even with, you know, against what, five yellow cards? One, two, three, four yellow cards.
Jarrod Dyke: for. Although, Jeremy Williams' yellow card, I don't really buy it.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm not saying they were good yellow cards, but four of them.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Yeah. No, I know.
Grumpy Old Prop: but That's half the match.
Jarrod Dyke: I'd...
Grumpy Old Prop: At least one player is off the field. Like half the match.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, I'd say... I'd say three of them were were earned somewhere because um either either the Prince of Yellow wasn't a yellow because it was, i thought it was shoulder contact, person quite honestly. And then the Williams challenge, like trying to charge down a kick, like due to knee hair.
Jarrod Dyke: Like he is way out.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: He has no, like he cannot be responsible. He didn't stick a leg out. He didn't stick a knee out. He just kind of was there and freaking, dumbass andy mirrorhead decided or was it was i think it was mirrorhead yeah decided like i'm gonna run through this giant body like no that's that's your dumb ass's fault like it's not on jerry my way i was like i thought that was the fact that we even like went beyond penalty it was a penalty whatever i can live with it it wasn't a good decision in that but then the next they go next level and be like yeah yeah it's car it's like
Grumpy Old Prop: That seems like a mirror head thing to do.
Jarrod Dyke: Really? What plan are we on? i think O'Keefe was refereeing this match, wasn't he?
Grumpy Old Prop: sounds right.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep, I think he was.
Grumpy Old Prop: And they're talking all about how great he was. and it's like...
Jarrod Dyke: No, that tells me otherwise. Thank you very much. Yeah, another referee whose perception of him is that he's good, but really he's he's not. He's kind of crap.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Let's see. I'm trying to pull it up right now just before we move on here. Doo-doo-doo.
Jarrod Dyke: That's not it. That's not it. Oh, here we go. That's it.
Jarrod Dyke: Damn it.
Jarrod Dyke: Find it later. Oh, well. um Anyway. Yeah, that was that was a bit of a disappointment for the Runbeach fans. Now they didn't start Lola CEO. Yes, it was OK. God damn it.
Jarrod Dyke: um brimby's fans probably deserved a little bit better than what what they came up with certainly in those first few minutes uh let you know let the force right into the fight like that's a that's got that's a team that's got some talent in there that's they have tazano they have um donaldson obviously who was the hero the other week uh they have jerry jerry jerry what's up
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Nick Dolly.
Grumpy Old Prop: Nick Dolly.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, they have Nick Dolly, they have Jeremy Williams, who I like a lot.
Grumpy Old Prop: You know.
Jarrod Dyke: Obviously, their back three looks like it's got something to say about this whole thing, especially with Potter and Page. like
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. More.
Jarrod Dyke: it They have some quality players, guys. Do not go just wandering off on your own like you're in La Land. like
Grumpy Old Prop: right
Jarrod Dyke: You've got to play this team properly. And they did not. And they got what they deserved, quite honestly.
Jarrod Dyke: All right, quick rip around of the MLers. um
Grumpy Old Prop: mill
Jarrod Dyke: Lesion just smashed Hanton this past weekend. I actually watched most games on Sunday because we had family over, and i was just like, I'd at least like to put some rugby on the background while I'm having to deal with entertaining people that I don't want to talk to sometimes.
Grumpy Old Prop: Hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: um So, ah yeah, watched the Warriors-Hounds. I thought the Hounds totally threw that game away. Miami, almost for the second week of Rome, an inexplicable blunder by my andy Miami. Their kicker, LES, was about to hit three and take it beyond it defer a try, and he let the clock wind down too far.
Jarrod Dyke: like and the and I think it was Will Hooley that was on the comms pointed out rightly, like they already said there was going to be a restart, so you might as well kick it on like five instead of instead waiting for it to get to zero and get bit by it, rightly so, and
Grumpy Old Prop: Just kick it. Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: They were able to survive and NOLA was able to find a way to spit the bit because they're NOLA. But yeah, and I was like, oh God.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep. That was, i mean, that's a matchup of which team loses, just decides to lose it.
Jarrod Dyke: ah Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: and The answer is both of them, but Miami was in the lead at the time, so.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, that's true. And then RFCLA, kind of a disappointing start to the year considering that they're probably most people's favorites on paper.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. ah Maybe they're just learning how to play with each other.
Jarrod Dyke: it's probably just a little bit.
Grumpy Old Prop: Maybe, actually, but still.
Jarrod Dyke: I would imagine so, but they, yeah, there's still some, and they grant there, there's still some guys that are missing and that that are not healthy. I get that, but I think a lot of teams can, can use that as well.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, but they got smooshified.
Jarrod Dyke: But yeah, to have that happen to them with the Sabrecast. I know Houston was one of the best teams last year in terms of the regular season, but she, it disappointing to say least.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Clean it up.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah Okay. Let's get into some superlatives. ah Five that outdid themselves. Or a few that outdid themselves.
Grumpy Old Prop: So, I mean, first nods, gotta to go to Tabataa now. Why?
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Has to.
Jarrod Dyke: Got him in there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um...
Jarrod Dyke: Got him in there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Wilgriff John. I gotta support my tight head prop with the bald head and the the awesome mustache.
Jarrod Dyke: you were Yeah, he looks kind of like you, except he's got a mustache. You have a beard.
Grumpy Old Prop: He looks like the the guys from um Family Guy who lift the the trapezoid weights.
Jarrod Dyke: He does, you're right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um...
Jarrod Dyke: the The trainers at the gym.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yup. Yup.
Jarrod Dyke: ah you
Grumpy Old Prop: Yup.
Jarrod Dyke: oh Yeah, that's a good one. Good shout.
Grumpy Old Prop: um yeah those were my two like that i really needed to get get out there
Jarrod Dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Jarrod Dyke: We've thrown some names around already, too.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: but those those two really and oh i mean and basically the whole pilanders team really but you know specifically as we mentioned hurley gilbert
Jarrod Dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: havet have an now why those you know those those three especially um
Jarrod Dyke: Very much so, yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: um Yeah, I'm into that. I would give credit to the whole back three of Wales. Me, Murray, Rogers all played pretty well for them themselves considering how inexperienced they all are.
Grumpy Old Prop: true
Jarrod Dyke: So, yeah, I think that was pretty good. um We talked about like Richie and the whole team. the told the whole
Grumpy Old Prop: We didn't mention Barre, but that's, you know, whatever. It's just been a huge blowout. So it's less impressive with the result.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Yeah, it's true. It is true. um
Jarrod Dyke: Shat the bed.
Grumpy Old Prop: I feel like, you know, it's it's an odd, it's weird to to say, but Will Jordan kind of shit the bed. I'm going to point some fingers at him.
Jarrod Dyke: Okay, there you go.
Grumpy Old Prop: um wanted Seva Reese as well, because like those guys, you know, obviously they're they're scaring you going into the game. And it was like, they just, they should have produced a lot more than they did.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, no, not wrong. um
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, i I mean, I have like a couple of small, we talked about the two referees that were just absolute trochers, Brousset, Dolben, they're both just dog shit. um LCD's still crap.
Jarrod Dyke: I don't know but i don't know what why he's starting still.
Grumpy Old Prop: He is awful.
Jarrod Dyke: ah The England attack, just apart from a couple of moments, Barfzilla, just absolute Barfzilla.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. him
Jarrod Dyke: And the it has to be said, Finn's kicking. Finn Russell's kicking.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Like, where did it go?
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Jarrod Dyke: Where did it go? He's usually one of the better goal kickers in the world. And you needed one to win this fucking thing. One.
Grumpy Old Prop: Just one, just one.
Jarrod Dyke: Oh, man. um Ref coach young player.
Grumpy Old Prop: No refs don't don't have nothing to say about the rest.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, right. Sad.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Jarrod Dyke: Sad.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Maybe, I might give a shot to, like, Nick Barry, who didn't think did a bad job in his game, but, like, that's Coach.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: So, yeah. um Honestly, Matt Sherratt.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep, I had him down, too.
Jarrod Dyke: Had him down, too. And then...
Grumpy Old Prop: That's like just just just a little bit of a like kick in the nads to get him going. Like, that's helpful.
Jarrod Dyke: yeah Right? he wrote there Yeah, and, you know, he shook things up. He did some good things. um
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Two out three guys bringing it into the squad weren't bad. One them didn't quite do do himself justice, but, you know, um young player.
Grumpy Old Prop: Not. Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: I think that's where I'm going to go back to. Shoot, where was no wrong one.
Grumpy Old Prop: um That that. Finn Hurley.
Jarrod Dyke: There you go. That's a good one. That good one. I like it. Yeah, I'm going to go Blair Murray from Wales.
Grumpy Old Prop: Fair.
Jarrod Dyke: Really played well, I thought. And looks like he belongs there. Reece Samit, your job's been taken, bo dude.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, in fright in front of you.
Jarrod Dyke: He was in the house.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Although, I will say... and we didn't get into it when we were talking about the game the decision to disallow that try that he didn't believe was disallowed like you have two options there it either went forward or his hands in touch there's no there's no try either the way so the fact that it took so long to get to that fucking point it was kind of painful but no it was the correct decision no try and I'm i'm all for ordering
Grumpy Old Prop: h yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: Hey, I'd rather them get it right and take a little bit of time.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, um' I'm all for awarding them when they're pretty, but yeah, nope, wasn't wasn't good, sadly.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, he he never even made it in. and So...
Jarrod Dyke: No, no, no, no. ah Try the week.
Grumpy Old Prop: It was that Finn Hurley try to start the game. to To open the scoring.
Jarrod Dyke: Okay, nice.
Grumpy Old Prop: The chip and just like just to set that marker down as far as... We're here to express ourselves and...
Jarrod Dyke: We here, friends.
Grumpy Old Prop: Sorry? Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, we here, friends.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Like, we're not we're not stopping at the celebration. We're going to keep going.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep. Nope. I love it. Um, I'm going to go with the Jamie Osborne. Try that low, low tap down.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. I
Jarrod Dyke: That, that was a, just a special piece of play right there.
Grumpy Old Prop: had a feeling that was on your radar there.
Jarrod Dyke: Yep. It was, uh, play the week.
Grumpy Old Prop: Tavis, have it now, why?
Jarrod Dyke: Love it. Love it. Love everything about it. Uh, I, I'm a little biased, but I went with Dewey Karifi. Like I said, a barring the the one silly yellow that he didn't need to take.
Jarrod Dyke: like Other than that, you know he's a co-captain right now. He's really you know making me question, why the fuck didn't you do this the whole time?
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Because, I mean, this is what he can do when he realizes there's no there's no help coming. Like, why the fuck did you just do it to be begin with?
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: Dicks of the week. Or dick.
Grumpy Old Prop: Gaultier.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, definitely a dick. Definitely a dick. I'm going with dimes because him bitching about ah brother wanting to join his other brother somewhere else doesn't rub me the right way.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Where they win.
Jarrod Dyke: Sorry, dude. Also, you don't play good rugby. Yes, you're getting better.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: as ah You're making that team better because it was just complete gobshite. But going from 0 to 1 is different than going from 1 5.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: you know, let's let's let's be honest about that.
Jarrod Dyke: we got pick them.
Grumpy Old Prop: The picking of them.
Jarrod Dyke: Pick of them. um Just Super Rugby this week.
Grumpy Old Prop: yep
Jarrod Dyke: Moana Highlanders.
Grumpy Old Prop: I got Moana. Moana.
Jarrod Dyke: Okay, I'm going to take the Highlanders.
Grumpy Old Prop: feel like the Highlanders are going to have a little bit of a come down game. And Moana are at home.
Jarrod Dyke: They might, and I wouldn't be shocked in any way, shape or form.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Jarrod Dyke: Taz Druah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Taz.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah. Drew on tour and already pretty tired from that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Jarrod Dyke: From that Hurricanes gain and toss out the week off. So. um Chefs and Brumbies.
Grumpy Old Prop: The Chefs.
Jarrod Dyke: Oh, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Googly moogly.
Jarrod Dyke: Great googly moogly. Hurricanes Blues.
Grumpy Old Prop: going with your guys.
Jarrod Dyke: Oh, man.
Grumpy Old Prop: i mean, the Blues still have zero points.
Jarrod Dyke: i I hope you're right. but know. I know.
Grumpy Old Prop: Zero points. I can't trust them yet.
Jarrod Dyke: But they're... The guys I have in key positions, Sands, Roy Gard, are better than the Hurricanes, as much as it pains me to say that.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah from
Jarrod Dyke: So I am going to take the Blues and hope to God that you're right.
Grumpy Old Prop: so yeah
Jarrod Dyke: um Force Reds.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah Reds.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: My one away team.
Jarrod Dyke: Not as... Yeah, not as nasty of a trip out to Western Australia for the Reds as it was as ah would have been for Moana and the likes, but...
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, still ah so decent trip, but I think they'll get it done. Also, did did were you watching the Western Force game when Nick White was just whinging about guys going off feet?
Grumpy Old Prop: No, I didn't see that part.
Jarrod Dyke: And you could hear, oh you could hear it clear as day for on the left. Michael, my dude, shut up.
Grumpy Old Prop: I did hear him whinging a lot, though, over the ref.
Jarrod Dyke: Like, God, you're yeah the only thing that is. No, just not none of it. Never mind. Never mind. you're You're done. You're done. Just be done with rugby.
Grumpy Old Prop: i I seem to remember him yelling um for offsides all a lot too.
Jarrod Dyke: Yeah, and it wasn't necessarily accurate. And listen, I'm all for shitting on O'Keefe, but it wasn't always accurate.
Grumpy Old Prop: No.
Jarrod Dyke: Don't get me wrong. Happy to do it, but not here. Okay. Look at us wrapping that up nice and tightly. Show us.
Grumpy Old Prop: Tweet.
Jarrod Dyke: um So we're going to jump over to Fantasyland as usual. If you're not coming over there, we will catch you guys next week. If you are, we'll see you over there. And we appreciate you guys all listening listening to us and supporting us. And we'll catch we'll talk to you guys soon. Have a good one.
Grumpy Old Prop: Later.
Jarrod Dyke: Cheers.
