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Season 7- Episode 16- WillGriff & the Trapezoid Weights ( 6 Nations Round 3 & Super Rugby Round 2)
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It's more from those American rugby dummies. On this episode we are recapping a big weekend of rugby, from the final round of the PWR, the 3rd round of 6 Nations and the 2nd round of the very young Super Rugby season. Join us as we go from Queensholm, to Twickenham, to GIO and everywhere in between. Grab something to drink, kick back and have a laugh with us friends!
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Introduction and Hosts
00:00:29
Jarrod Dyke
Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the Fantasy Rugby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke.
00:00:34
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm Ben Glauser, I think.
00:00:35
Jarrod Dyke
but be's ble's but Ben's playing hurt today, so... But we're gonna we're gonna give it the old college try, as our friends at Letterkenny might say.
00:00:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. I'm powering through.
Beer Banter and Playing Injured
00:00:45
Jarrod Dyke
Which means I'm not gonna show Ben this beer, but I'm gonna pop.
00:00:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, want beer. But I can't have it right now.
00:00:52
Jarrod Dyke
No, it's probably best scenario for all around that you don't, including your wife, so she doesn't have look after your stupid ass...
00:01:00
Grumpy Old Prop
She always does anyway. Anyway.
00:01:02
Jarrod Dyke
It's true.
Feedback and Anti-Discrimination Stance
00:01:05
Jarrod Dyke
Make sure that you find us on your favorite podcast app. Download rate review. Feedback always welcome. Email too.
00:01:14
Jarrod Dyke
we keep We're going to keep it sweet for this one for the discrimination this week. Stop being assholes, everyone. Please. Including you Republicans.
00:01:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, especially to trans people, there's no fucking need for it.
00:01:21
Jarrod Dyke
You fuckers. Oh, yeah. Especially.
00:01:24
Grumpy Old Prop
And
Political Stance: Maine and Philadelphia
00:01:25
Jarrod Dyke
Especially.
00:01:26
Grumpy Old Prop
especially with the government coming down on it.
00:01:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, what the fuck? but Like, people are people. Stop trying to stop trying to, like, divide us. This fucking sucks. And yeah, they're like, I think they're...
00:01:39
Jarrod Dyke
Don't fuck with the state of Maine, though.
00:01:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes, don't fuck with state of Maine. That was awesome. And um the state of Pennsylvania, though sorry, not the state of Pennsylvania, the the state of Philadelphia um also basically told Trump on that to pound sand.
00:01:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, they don't even care what the rest of the state does. They're like, no, we're we're doing our own thing. You all can fuck off. So Maine and pennsylvania and and Philadelphia representing, good for us.
00:02:02
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I get the sense there'll be more.
Patreon and Super Rugby Analytics
00:02:07
Grumpy Old Prop
You can see where we come from.
00:02:09
Jarrod Dyke
yes make sure you grab grab our patreon we will have a super rugby analytics sheet um i'll probably put we'll probably post it after this coming weekend because that'll be at least a decent amount of data by this point because at least everyone will play twice at this by now minimum there'll be some that are that have played three times obviously which will be more helpful and it's all based on average anyway so that'll be only good
00:02:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:02:29
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
Rugby Premier League Predictions
00:02:35
Jarrod Dyke
Tell me something good. Okay, we've got lots to rattle through. We'll touch on PWR. We kind of knew the things that happened this past weekend were going to happen because of the weekend.
00:02:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, and no surprises really.
00:02:47
Jarrod Dyke
Basically because results the weekend before, we kind knew this is how it's going to probably end up and held true.
00:02:50
Grumpy Old Prop
from
00:02:54
Jarrod Dyke
Although, Lester gave Exeter the good old fight on the last day the weekend, so good for them.
00:03:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, good for Leicester.
00:03:00
Jarrod Dyke
nice to see them Nice to see them getting getting up and and putting up a fight again. We talked about them, Shellfinders, Loughborough, all all yeah making life hard on teams. Sale, man.
00:03:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Not making life hard on teams.
00:03:13
Jarrod Dyke
Exeter Chiefs are going to see Sale. They're going to see Sale in their
Exeter's Loss and Host Opinions
00:03:17
Jarrod Dyke
nightmares. Like, oh my God. that That loss that lost to them, this year, that is just going to live in infamy for Sale this year.
00:03:19
Grumpy Old Prop
How did we lose to them? but
00:03:28
Jarrod Dyke
But at the same time, like, damn. Damn, damn, damn.
00:03:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, but also it's Exeter. Fuck Exeter.
00:03:34
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, i'm I'm okay with that.
00:03:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Although, not quite the same as the women's team as a men's team, but um still.
00:03:40
Jarrod Dyke
Still.
Gloucester-Hartpury vs. Quinn's Recap
00:03:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Close enough.
00:03:41
Jarrod Dyke
yes Applebee's good for a win-jury once in a while. So, yeah. um The game of the week over here was Glosser-Harpry and Quinn's. and it It was a halftime solid halftime lead with three tries on the board for um the hosts.
00:03:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:03:58
Jarrod Dyke
And Never really turned back after that.
00:04:01
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
00:04:01
Jarrod Dyke
And Quinns were... It really was the only thing that was kind of somewhat waiting on. We knew it was going to Gloucester-Harperie and Bristol. It was a matter ah We knew it was going be Saracens and Quinns. It was just a matter of where.
00:04:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:04:14
Jarrod Dyke
Is it going to be at the Stone X? Is it going to be at the Stoop? It's going be bit at the Stone X. So the
Six Nations Schedule Impact
00:04:19
Jarrod Dyke
road to the final goes through the Stone X.
00:04:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
00:04:21
Jarrod Dyke
Bring it on, friends. Let's do it.
00:04:26
Jarrod Dyke
Okay. Let's dive into this thing. Six Nations, round three. um Before we dive too far into it, there was a topic of... um
00:04:39
Jarrod Dyke
This tournament being probably a little too spread out at this point, because now we're in a bye week again.
00:04:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, I don't want to like that.
00:04:45
Jarrod Dyke
i feel like we can... do three rounds or two rounds, either or have a break, and then we can do the final rounds after that. And that's enough.
00:04:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:04:52
Jarrod Dyke
And I listen, I am not against like player welfare for fair or anything of that sort. Trust me, I'm right the top of list of people that want players to be looked after, but just feels like it also, think someone said the word momentum.
00:04:58
Grumpy Old Prop
will
00:05:06
Jarrod Dyke
It yeah, momentum and viewership kind of just,
00:05:07
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:05:09
Jarrod Dyke
Waxes and wanes and and you're you're relying on a lot of things. So go your way when you take and when you take ah when you take these chances of of downtime.
00:05:18
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah ah no one one yeah
00:05:18
Jarrod Dyke
So just an idea.
00:05:23
Jarrod Dyke
And now Roman and Tamak was not going to play for to lose on the down week. So ah we I think he's going to be back this week. Next week, whatever it is, one of those weeks, whatever it is. But anyway, let's go to the principality first.
00:05:40
Jarrod Dyke
You know, Wales were super clunky, but they were, and i I think the word I've seen the most is like courageous and heart and play with passion. Probably the best way to describe it. Was it pretty? Hell no.
00:05:50
Jarrod Dyke
that Were there some great players individually? Yes. Like we saw the two back three guys, Murray and me, like they they really played their bums off.
00:06:02
Grumpy Old Prop
They did.
00:06:02
Jarrod Dyke
um Captain Jack Morgan, he there's one there's probably one person that's absolutely on the plane to Australia for Wales, and it's him.
00:06:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:06:10
Jarrod Dyke
without a doubt him in my brain so and i don't have anybody else there
00:06:13
Grumpy Old Prop
That's hard to argue. i mean, he's got to be on it, but yeah, it's hard it's kind of hard to find another.
00:06:19
Jarrod Dyke
yeah after and we'll see we got three we got two more games here maybe some of the players that played in this game well can back it but they made they made island win it ugly like you island you know they were a little ugly in edinburgh a couple weeks a few weeks ago but this was even uglier
00:06:27
Grumpy Old Prop
right They did.
00:06:40
Jarrod Dyke
yeah I think if we're were honest.
00:06:43
Grumpy Old Prop
It has been a clunky Six Nations in general.
00:06:45
Jarrod Dyke
Yes, i'm I'm totally in agreement with that.
00:06:46
Grumpy Old Prop
It's not been a well-played Six Nations. um And yeah, this was way closer than it should have been. And you know credit to Wales for that. The island weren't like They don't look right.
00:06:58
Grumpy Old Prop
They look off. And that's even with Prendergrass just throwing seeds all over the fucking place.
00:07:03
Jarrod Dyke
Oh my God. The dude is just throwing darts at like, you know, 30 meters or so. It's like, yeah.
00:07:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:07:09
Jarrod Dyke
Come on, man. How do you how do you not sit there and just be in awe of this guy's draw talent?
00:07:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:07:14
Jarrod Dyke
Just give him time in the driver's seat and he's going to turn into a real, real good player.
00:07:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep. Which... Which they're gonna do, and that's that's awesome.
00:07:22
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:07:23
Grumpy Old Prop
But also, you know... why Why is Conan coming off and not Peter Omani?
00:07:30
Jarrod Dyke
I... I question that. And why is it Baird that's in there as the back row sub? Really? Like...
00:07:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:07:37
Jarrod Dyke
yeah we've we've talked about Barrett a little bit. he's He's a six at best if he's going to in your back row.
00:07:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:07:42
Jarrod Dyke
And he's a solid six. you know
00:07:44
Grumpy Old Prop
But that means you take off Conan for Baird, and now it's like Baird and Omani who are like...
00:07:44
Jarrod Dyke
But I just
00:07:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Neither are real-world beaters at this point. No no disrespect to to Peter. just not no you know He's not what he used to be. and you know You can't just have... Again, it's that can't have four locks out on the field, essentially.
00:08:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Not that that's exactly like that, but Omani is like ah six, and Baird's a six.
00:08:07
Jarrod Dyke
Same sentiment. Mm-hmm.
00:08:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Fortunately, you've got Ty Barron, and McCarthy can actually run.
00:08:14
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. He plays like a back row sometimes.
00:08:15
Grumpy Old Prop
so
00:08:16
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, that is true.
00:08:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. so but it'
00:08:18
Jarrod Dyke
That is true.
00:08:19
Grumpy Old Prop
It's four sixes out there, which is odd. and't
00:08:22
Jarrod Dyke
Really? Yeah.
00:08:22
Grumpy Old Prop
didn't help them enough.
00:08:24
Jarrod Dyke
No. No, no, no.
00:08:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Of course, the red to ring roast really didn't help.
00:08:27
Jarrod Dyke
That's what Consuelo would say.
00:08:31
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, but don't you know that red cards were in matches? Yeah.
00:08:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. This match was ruined.
00:08:39
Jarrod Dyke
It's ruined, I say. It's ruined. um
00:08:46
Jarrod Dyke
i I don't hate the guy, but at the same time, I i see where people lost faith in Jared Evans. like He came on for Anscombe, and you could see the problems start to come come around for Wales. And i was like, this is why they don't want him in a Wales shirt. Now I understand.
00:09:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:09:08
Jarrod Dyke
things definitely The wheels definitely came off a little bit, I would i dare say.
00:09:10
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, yeah. that That kind of was it. um not You know, not the worst player, but he's just not international quality.
00:09:18
Jarrod Dyke
no No, I don't believe so at all.
00:09:21
Grumpy Old Prop
He's good for backing up um Marcus at the Prem level.
00:09:21
Jarrod Dyke
um
00:09:27
Jarrod Dyke
that's probably the but That's probably the nicest thing we can say about honestly.
00:09:28
Grumpy Old Prop
That's about it.
00:09:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. that there's anything wrong with with backing. I mean, he could he could be a like a, you know, a club starter. um Solid club starter, but not like, not world beater. And yeah, bring him up a level is not not going to work.
00:09:46
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. I'm still I'm still scratching my head why Aaron Wainwright's a part of this team for Wales.
00:09:57
Jarrod Dyke
I don't see it.
00:09:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:09:59
Jarrod Dyke
I don't see it.
00:09:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Well, who else? Who else they got?
00:10:02
Jarrod Dyke
I don't I would imagine this. God. God. I mean, of the guys that they've that they've had in the past, I will say, there's got to be someone else. Like Plumtree Basham, I don't know if they're healthy or not, but I would certainly give them a look before ah did two.
00:10:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Yeah, Basham. I like him.
00:10:19
Jarrod Dyke
So those are the ones I would kind of keep my eyes on.
00:10:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Kind of same with Faletel. I don't think he... Yeah.
00:10:27
Jarrod Dyke
Well, to have the two of those guys in the back row, it's not dissimilar to what we were just talking about with Omani and Baird.
00:10:31
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:10:35
Jarrod Dyke
Guys that just would rather run into brick walls as opposed to find space and and attack.
00:10:35
Grumpy Old Prop
It's just like... Yeah, and I get what Faletel used to be a couple years ago. He's not that now.
00:10:46
Grumpy Old Prop
And like he reminds me of those guys who like when you're playing club rugby and you have it one teammate just runs into few people and it's like, you just go, yeah! And then you can't help not you know get up do it.
00:11:00
Grumpy Old Prop
But like that's not the game.
00:11:00
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:11:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Certainly not at this level either. So, not anymore.
00:11:03
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:11:07
Jarrod Dyke
How about but ja the James Lowe assist on the Jamie Osborne try? Oh, man.
00:11:14
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah Yeah, that was tasty.
00:11:17
Jarrod Dyke
That is...
00:11:17
Grumpy Old Prop
That was just because you think he's going like I thought he was going up for the ball.
00:11:18
Jarrod Dyke
move
00:11:21
Grumpy Old Prop
like I thought it was, you know, James Lobey and like, yeah, I'll just take this game over. And instead he's like, you know what? That's contested. Best thing I can do is just, you know, punch it to my teammate.
00:11:32
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, tap it down to my friend. Yep, and he did. And it's just a...
00:11:37
Grumpy Old Prop
When the Green Goblin gets over.
00:11:37
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:11:44
Jarrod Dyke
What was the son's name?
00:11:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, fuck.
00:11:49
Jarrod Dyke
Norman is the is the dad.
00:11:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Norman's a dad. Yeah. um
00:11:52
Jarrod Dyke
Damn it. That's going to annoy me.
00:11:53
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't remember.
00:11:55
Jarrod Dyke
I should know that. ah I'll think of it later. It'll hit me.
00:12:01
Jarrod Dyke
It'll hit me. That's it. Well done. Well played.
00:12:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Harry Osborn.
00:12:06
Grumpy Old Prop
but but Thank Google. I did it right. I looked it up real quick.
00:12:10
Jarrod Dyke
Okay, there you go.
00:12:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:12:14
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, and um for the sake of, yeah, for the sake of like, talk about Irish guys that probably don't need to be in the team anymore, like,
00:12:25
Jarrod Dyke
I would really, i i think I don't have alien X, right?
00:12:31
Jarrod Dyke
Pretty sure.
00:12:31
Grumpy Old Prop
um One moment.
00:12:37
Grumpy Old Prop
No, England have Italy, Ireland of France.
00:12:39
Jarrod Dyke
but geez. So they got Emily.
00:12:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:12:42
Jarrod Dyke
That's tough. i I was hoping they would have Italy. Cause I would say, get it you clue into that game.
00:12:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Hmm.
00:12:48
Jarrod Dyke
I still say, get him in there anyway. I think he's better than James Ryan. Um, Joe McCarthy being back was huge for this team. but That was clear.
00:12:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Hmm.
00:12:57
Jarrod Dyke
um Yeah, there was still some still some there's still some holes in this in this Irish team, but the fact that there's still holes and we're still talking about them being undefeated as well is a testament to them just being able to gut it out.
00:13:10
Jarrod Dyke
Bundy came on and made a huge difference after the red card was up, which makes me think that I don't like that red card rule again, but you know that's different story for a different day.
00:13:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Different story.
00:13:19
Jarrod Dyke
yeah We can argue that until you know we're blue in the face here.
00:13:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Different.
00:13:23
Jarrod Dyke
But in any case, Ireland's still undefeated. Grand Slam's still on.
00:13:28
Grumpy Old Prop
It is. Well, we'll see.
00:13:29
Jarrod Dyke
Good luck.
00:13:30
Grumpy Old Prop
This weekend is is the kind of decider for that. so Or not this weekend. Next weekend.
00:13:35
Jarrod Dyke
Next, yep.
00:13:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Because they have a bye again.
00:13:37
Jarrod Dyke
I know.
00:13:38
Grumpy Old Prop
We just spent time talking about that. And I lost it.
00:13:41
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, you know. Little bit of this, little that.
00:13:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:13:47
Grumpy Old Prop
So, question for you.
00:13:49
Jarrod Dyke
Let's shoot.
00:13:50
Grumpy Old Prop
are you can score three tries and lose sixteen fifteen to a team that only scores one?
00:13:58
Jarrod Dyke
And the one was questionable as well.
00:14:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:14:03
Jarrod Dyke
ah
00:14:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes.
00:14:04
Jarrod Dyke
I mean,
00:14:08
Jarrod Dyke
it's a matter of Scotland not being quite creative enough in attack, although they obviously were enough to get three tries. Finn not being able to convert. And then England having the defense to just shove them back every time they got in that 22. Where's the 22 time? Because there was bit of it.
00:14:24
Jarrod Dyke
because there was there was quite a bit of it
00:14:27
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, that England defense is actually now impressive.
00:14:27
Jarrod Dyke
Territory overall is 58.
00:14:31
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah.
00:14:32
Grumpy Old Prop
They've gone all the way around again.
00:14:32
Jarrod Dyke
I was...
00:14:34
Grumpy Old Prop
They've been really tough this um but Six Nations. you know the The France game notwithstanding, but at the same time, yeah, France made errors, but they weren't exactly unforced errors. Sometimes they kind of were, but we still had guys here in footsteps, and that's what helped knock on.
00:14:52
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:14:52
Grumpy Old Prop
But still, against this solid defense, he scored three tries.
00:14:57
Grumpy Old Prop
It's got to be a dub. And yeah, I wonder if Finn is is still feeling the effects of ah ah that the collision with Bram.
00:15:05
Jarrod Dyke
That concussion. I mean, they were, those were, yeah'd you'd hope he'd make one of them, but none of them were real, real easy ones. They were all way out on the touchline. That was the really, you know, annoying thing, I'm sure from his view, but and but he also holds himself to a higher standard.
00:15:18
Jarrod Dyke
So I'm sure he's kicking himself. I
00:15:21
Grumpy Old Prop
The Ben White try wasn't that far out.
00:15:26
Jarrod Dyke
think it was. It was somewhere between that five and 15, which is not easy.
00:15:30
Grumpy Old Prop
And there was one, and it may have been that try, it may have been the Dewey try, where the ref walked out the kick back, like, over to the 5-meter, and it wasn't there. It was definitely closer to the 15.
00:15:46
Grumpy Old Prop
And the ref was like, nope, you can come over here. So,
00:15:49
Jarrod Dyke
Bruce Bursette was horrible this game.
00:15:49
Grumpy Old Prop
um not great.
00:15:52
Jarrod Dyke
Oh my God.
00:15:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Not good.
00:15:53
Jarrod Dyke
He was trashed both ways, but like,
00:15:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:15:56
Jarrod Dyke
There's what I, what i really dislike about any referee that's especially referees that are bad is no, no, I'm the referee. I'm right. Your decision matters, but your accuracy is dog shit.
00:16:09
Jarrod Dyke
That's what really it should be said.
00:16:09
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:16:11
Jarrod Dyke
Like, and you heard, we heard it on Sunday as well. I think Dixon, and it was either Dixon or maybe it was ah Nick Berry and super rugby, but one of them said, I'm, you know, if I got it wrong, I'm sorry.
00:16:21
Jarrod Dyke
You know, that's that's what I saw. And at least being able to do that,
00:16:24
Grumpy Old Prop
that's a better
00:16:26
Jarrod Dyke
is a such a better approach about yourself.
00:16:26
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:16:28
Jarrod Dyke
Even if you're not as quality of a referee as another guy, like to be able to say, all right, I screwed it up. It tells me that one, they're trying to get better. I hope all these referees are, but really when you have that attitude that Brissette does where he's just like, no, no, no, I'm right.
00:16:36
Grumpy Old Prop
but
00:16:41
Jarrod Dyke
And I'm like, pretty much no matter what, or, you know, the conversations aren't really going to happen. yeah Tells me that you have no interest in getting better and you're just going to be talk shit for the rare ranger your career.
00:16:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:16:50
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:16:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Cause like what you do as a ref at that point is, okay. Yeah. i may have missed that one. You get the benefit of like, you find another call that might be, you know, might be consequential, might not.
00:17:03
Jarrod Dyke
50 odd.
00:17:04
Grumpy Old Prop
And you you just give it to the team. You kind of fuck. See there, that was, that were even, you can move on.
00:17:10
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. And it's, ah it's, so it's often a subconscious thing even, you know,
00:17:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. But like, you know, I don't, I haven't reffed that many games and obviously I'm not reffing it anywhere near this level, but like, that's my take on it is you kind of have a, that count in your head of, okay, I've penalized this team a lot for these things. Cause you kind of, you know, you see them,
00:17:31
Grumpy Old Prop
doing things you're all keep doing that like i'm gonna see it but sometimes you yeah you miss one you're like like a knock that should have been called you're like yeah i'll get you back like you kind of have that count in your head of okay did i fuck them or maybe or did i like let them get away with something yeah i'll i'll i'll run it back on them later yeah
00:17:48
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, that's just a that's just a human thing, quite quite frankly. Yeah, and just...
00:17:56
Grumpy Old Prop
but do that no what the fuck
00:17:56
Jarrod Dyke
The 6-2 split, the 6-2 split still is just pissing me off. Like, at least they were able to play Jamie Dobia's proper position this time around.
00:18:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes, he
00:18:03
Jarrod Dyke
Jamie Ritchie was immense this game. Like, there should be no more conversation of Matt Fagerson starting in this team, let alone being in this team, but definitely not starting as long as those three guys that's played in this back row this week are healthy.
00:18:07
Grumpy Old Prop
yes he was. Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:20
Jarrod Dyke
Simple as that.
00:18:23
Jarrod Dyke
so yeah well done to jamie richie and earning and giving giving grega grega townsend the fuck you but like don't drop me next time dick
00:18:29
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah yeah
00:18:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:18:36
Jarrod Dyke
and then would be silly to just pass over the the defensive effort of finn smith like i see the sticks that this kid's making and he's just not afraid he's Yeah.
00:18:47
Jarrod Dyke
Everyone says, oh he's playing 10. He's a, and listen, I, I plan to run a tens myself when I'm playing, when I'm coaching my teams, that will not be the case.
00:18:53
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:18:57
Jarrod Dyke
Should I ever come up against a lot the likes of Smith, Finn Smith. It's like, no, we're not running at that guy.
00:19:01
Grumpy Old Prop
know yeah not yeah run run a slate we'll do much better
00:19:02
Jarrod Dyke
We're going to find another one. Henry Slade.
00:19:09
Jarrod Dyke
But yeah. yeah Well, a credit is Finn Smith. He's making that Jersey zone. I'm, I'm proud of him.
00:19:14
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah yeah
00:19:14
Jarrod Dyke
I'm, I'm, yeah we were talking You and I have a friend a mutual English friend that was just like, can we play someone that besides Ford and Marcus? I was like, yeah, we can you could play Finn, but you got to have the balls to pick him.
00:19:26
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:19:27
Jarrod Dyke
Finally, Bartho shows some stones and picks him.
00:19:29
Grumpy Old Prop
But I like Smith and Smith. I like Marcus at 15. That works really well. It's that, again, that Damien McKenzie type impact where he doesn't have to run the team. He just has to like spot space.
00:19:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Give me the ball.
00:19:44
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, he's he's the rare ability that can do both.
00:19:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Like that's.
00:19:47
Jarrod Dyke
Bowden Bear being another one that I can think of off the top my head. Can do both well.
00:19:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:19:53
Jarrod Dyke
So... Yeah.
00:19:55
Grumpy Old Prop
And we'd be, we also need to be remi we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Hugh Jones at all.
00:19:56
Jarrod Dyke
ah
00:20:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Cause all that guy does is is produce. I was talking to my, ah ah the the club president who's an an Ireland fan. And he's talking about like, Rymrose is like the only person putting his hand up for 13 on the Lions.
00:20:13
Grumpy Old Prop
And I'm like, um excuse me, mr Mr.
00:20:15
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:20:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Hugh Jones might have something to say about that.
00:20:17
Jarrod Dyke
No, no, no, no.
00:20:17
Grumpy Old Prop
He was like, oh yeah. He was like, I thought Hugh played 12. I'm like, no, he's 13.
00:20:22
Jarrod Dyke
No, that's 13. They're trying to find a replacement for two weeks below to it.
00:20:26
Jarrod Dyke
12 while he's out. So, yeah. No, that's that's what's up right there.
00:20:26
Grumpy Old Prop
For Tua Palazzo, who's a 12.
00:20:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:20:31
Jarrod Dyke
So, no, ah yeah. A few gems has has been immense for this team. and Do I think England absolutely are in the Calcutta Cup? No. I think if this is played at...
00:20:43
Jarrod Dyke
at Murrayfield, then this is the Scotland wins it. So I think...
00:20:47
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, I think you play this this specific game right here 10 times. I think Scotland win 7 8 of them.
00:20:53
Jarrod Dyke
It's probably true.
00:20:54
Grumpy Old Prop
It's just this was this was the one or two or three that England just squeaked it out.
00:21:00
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, and in the end, it's just Scotland's silliness ill-discipline that bit him, giving England you know three penalties in kicking distance to to hit. That's just something you to know. You just got to have it in your head. Listen, we can outscore these guys.
00:21:15
Jarrod Dyke
But if we're not smart in our own end, we could bet and we could easily get bit. They did. They did. They did. They did.
00:21:26
Jarrod Dyke
We don't need to get too much into the Italy France game.
00:21:32
Grumpy Old Prop
mean, Italy, you scored 24 points versus France. That's actually really really well... 73. Holy fuck. No. really well Yeah,
00:21:39
Jarrod Dyke
Nope. Nope. Not that well done. Because she gave up more than, like, triple of that. Like, Jesus.
00:21:49
Grumpy Old Prop
seventy-three holy fark
00:21:51
Jarrod Dyke
And people will say, well, you know, shouldn't Italy be considered, you know, in a down because of that? No. This is a very angry France team that knew they this spit it the other week, so they wanted to make up for it.
00:21:59
Grumpy Old Prop
no yeah because
00:22:04
Grumpy Old Prop
I had two weeks to stew in it.
00:22:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Two. So it's not like they, it wasn't just like, you know, they're pissed, but it's like you had two weeks of um getting like reamed out by the coaches for dropping balls. And they're like, no, we are, when we catch the ball, we put it down.
00:22:24
Grumpy Old Prop
we don't drop it. We put it down over the line.
00:22:28
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, right.
00:22:29
Grumpy Old Prop
that And they did that a few times.
00:22:32
Jarrod Dyke
Many times.
00:22:34
Grumpy Old Prop
A few. You're there.
00:22:35
Jarrod Dyke
Many times. I...
00:22:41
Jarrod Dyke
Like... 7-1. I'm just so sick of this 7-1-6-2 bullshit.
00:22:46
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't even get it for this.
00:22:47
Jarrod Dyke
Like...
00:22:48
Grumpy Old Prop
like you know like wouldn't you want to be be able to You'd want to be able to take out...
00:22:50
Jarrod Dyke
That's just being a dick.
00:22:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Well, they did take out Ramos. um
00:22:55
Jarrod Dyke
It's the only one that took out, though.
00:22:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. like You also want to be able to take out DuPont.
00:22:58
Jarrod Dyke
I would like to take DuPont off.
00:23:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:01
Jarrod Dyke
Like, without a doubt, your best player?
00:23:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Right, maybe give him a rest.
00:23:05
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, take him off, give him a rest, make sure he doesn't get
00:23:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Because didn't they... Did they take out Aldrete?
00:23:11
Jarrod Dyke
hurt. Yes, he came off with that big line change zone that didn't come off was Kroos.
00:23:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay.
00:23:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay. Okay.
00:23:17
Jarrod Dyke
The and six there. um Yeah, it's really like... So you're telling me that you because your forwards are either that unfit or whatever, you need seven forwards or even six forwards, and you're then banking on, one your back line coming through almost completely healthy, and two, none of them are going to get tired and need a sub.
00:23:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:23:40
Jarrod Dyke
Like, i we we talked about... it's been talked about the freaking heart rate monitors on these on these guys and how they're they're used to you know no like to a scientific end and it's like you're telling me those things aren't reading that the heart rates have gone up above that that threshold or even started to approach it and maybe you know visually you see a guy and go it wouldn't have made a difference this game but i'm just talking in general
00:23:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:24:07
Jarrod Dyke
um Visually, you see a guy, whether or not the heart rate says one thing, if you see a guy, and it's like, all right, you're dogged. Like, let's get you off because you're useless at this point.
00:24:15
Grumpy Old Prop
who
00:24:17
Jarrod Dyke
And i don't need you to become a whole. So I don't know. I think it's really
00:24:26
Jarrod Dyke
stupid at the minimum and arrogant at the worst. So you're going to continue to do that shit, guys, go fuck yourself.
00:24:34
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:24:35
Jarrod Dyke
Like, all the way.
00:24:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Something like that.
00:24:36
Jarrod Dyke
All the way. All right. Let's go Super Rugby. um Chief Crusaders.
00:24:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Woo!
00:24:45
Jarrod Dyke
Wow. just I'm watching this game. Actually, was watching this game at the gym, and people are just like, does this usually happen with these guys?
00:24:52
Grumpy Old Prop
but
00:24:55
Jarrod Dyke
I'm like, not this good.
00:24:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:25:00
Jarrod Dyke
Not this good. It was yeah impressive, to say the least.
00:25:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, and, um you know shame for Puy Hippie. um But Tupaya comes on. It's like, great, okay. you know so And Puy Hippie's great. yeah didn't he Did he have a try already?
00:25:19
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:25:19
Grumpy Old Prop
No, he didn't score. I thought he might have, but no, Tupaya scored all the tries for the centers.
00:25:23
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:25:24
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:25:27
Grumpy Old Prop
So, yeah, like he comes out. It's like, oh, we'll just put an all black in.
00:25:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Also, every time I see Quintu Paya kicking ass, when I want to curse Darcy Swain's name, but that's another story.
00:25:38
Jarrod Dyke
yeah think a lot of people do, quite honestly.
00:25:42
Grumpy Old Prop
But, um you know, this Leroy Cotter looks like a ah real player. um this This attack just, again, the attack just works with with um with Jacob at 10 and McKenzie at 15. That's what you want.
00:25:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Just do more of that, please.
00:26:03
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, really.
00:26:03
Grumpy Old Prop
And this Preston kid can play on the other side.
00:26:06
Jarrod Dyke
yes
00:26:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Where the fuck do they find these guys?
00:26:11
Jarrod Dyke
What was the was like guy, Bryn Evans, that was playing? Was he the one that was playing nine along with Drummond? These two guys are kind of the opposite of that between Preston and Hotham.
00:26:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:26:21
Jarrod Dyke
Hotham's obviously hurt after the other week, but yeah.
00:26:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:26:25
Jarrod Dyke
um Damn. Like, this is definitely kind of opposite of what the Crusaders have had at nine for a long time now.
00:26:31
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:26:31
Jarrod Dyke
Pretty awesome for them.
00:26:31
Grumpy Old Prop
And it's it's it's great to see um it's going to lead to success for them. And then also, just to like you were saying earlier, just have the balls to be like, yeah, okay, we'll put crop Preston in. Instead of saying, okay, you know instead of having him start against the team that was in the finals last year, we we'll have Drummond.
00:26:47
Grumpy Old Prop
He's been here before. He's played. Nothing's going to be ah shock to him. they're Like, no, no, no. Let the kid run. That's...
00:26:55
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, he he impressed against the against the Hurricanes the week before, so it was really hard to keep him off the field there.
00:26:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:27:01
Grumpy Old Prop
It is, but at the same time, like you know it's it's easy to have that like dumb kid energy when you're like thrown on early in a match and just kind of go and express yourself because there's no pressure. But like when you're starting and you have that time to think about it before it happens, um there's a lot there.
00:27:18
Grumpy Old Prop
And yeah, sometimes you know so a lot of coaches would would put a drummond in it instead. But kudos to the Crusaders staff to to to lean on the kid. And he's he's rewarding him.
00:27:31
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, despite the scoreline in this game, yeah, he's playing really well.
00:27:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
00:27:37
Jarrod Dyke
Well, let's jump over to Brizzy. Red's Moana. Moana, the week before, impressive in many ways, and there's still some great things about this team. They're just, they're going to have to figure out ways to win because it's not something they have done a ton of.
00:27:53
Jarrod Dyke
Artie's going to help them lead the way for to a point, but he is only one man, and he's going need some help.
00:27:58
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:27:59
Jarrod Dyke
There's some good players on this team. We saw it. um Kyron Temafilow, like, oh okay, everyone knows who he is now.
00:28:04
Grumpy Old Prop
who Yep.
00:28:07
Jarrod Dyke
um We knew who Elamala was, even though he was kind of banged up the year in previous years, but we knew his talent level at least was up way up there. So now we're starting to see that come good now that he's healthy. So there's some good things for Moana, but um other side of it, there's a lot to like about this Reds team.
00:28:27
Grumpy Old Prop
So much to like.
00:28:30
Jarrod Dyke
like And we talked about playing young guys like Tom Lina and Harry McLaughlin Phelps. Like, ooh. Like, got two very young, very talented playmakers.
00:28:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Like to the point where you can, you can let like a James O'Connor go.
00:28:45
Jarrod Dyke
Couldn't believe it. i was like, wow, you... You let him walk? Okay.
00:28:49
Grumpy Old Prop
and then Yeah.
00:28:49
Jarrod Dyke
And, I mean, they're repaying, the in this game, at the ah at least, they've repaid the faith. So, you know, it's it's on them to do that, these two guys.
00:29:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:29:01
Jarrod Dyke
One of them is inevitably going to do it. We know Tom Lina has already kind of done that. um Harry McLaughlin Phillips, your turn.
00:29:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:29:10
Jarrod Dyke
know, make sure you show show out when you're given your chances and you'll You'll be rewarded and good things happen to you otherwise.
00:29:18
Grumpy Old Prop
mean, it helps that they have... That's ah that's a stacked back line, though.
00:29:22
Jarrod Dyke
It's a solid backline, without a doubt.
00:29:24
Grumpy Old Prop
it's it's It's not that hard to to just slot in. mean, if you have a little bit of talent and and knowledge and whatnot, like even if you're young, you slat you just be like, okay, well, look, um I'm going to give the ball to Mr.
00:29:32
Jarrod Dyke
Decent coaching will help it usually too.
00:29:37
Grumpy Old Prop
Paisami or Mr. Fluke Or Mr. Ryan. Or...
00:29:41
Jarrod Dyke
Ryan, oh man.
00:29:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Dogooner. Like, Junkyard Dog is... is
00:29:46
Jarrod Dyke
He's a thing.
00:29:47
Grumpy Old Prop
um He's a thing. It's, you know...
00:29:48
Jarrod Dyke
He's a thing. Don't want to fool you.
00:29:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Doesn't look like he's gonna have a sophomore slump, so...
00:29:53
Jarrod Dyke
No, looking good. Paisami is going to miss the next couple of games. He got cited after his yellow, which I was like, yeah you're lucky that's a yellow.
00:29:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:30:03
Jarrod Dyke
Let's see.
00:30:03
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:30:12
Jarrod Dyke
Three weeks.
00:30:13
Grumpy Old Prop
oh
00:30:14
Jarrod Dyke
So he'll Force.
00:30:14
Grumpy Old Prop
That's not... No. Yes, it is. Mm-hmm.
00:30:17
Jarrod Dyke
Nah. Crusaders, oh, man, he's going to miss the the Classic. He's goingnna miss Reds, Taz. That sucks.
00:30:24
Grumpy Old Prop
oh
00:30:25
Jarrod Dyke
that's If you're a Reds player, that's one you want play in. That sucks.
00:30:27
Grumpy Old Prop
yes it is
00:30:28
Jarrod Dyke
But don't be dumb in the end. So, you know, just saying. and Throwing that idea out there, you know, just little bit.
00:30:38
Jarrod Dyke
But, yeah, reds Reds look really good. You know, we talked about which team in Australia is going to step up. Maybe it's them. maybe it's them um they got the talent level without a doubt they need some guys to um rise to the top but yep not bad um let's head over to
00:30:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Maybe.
00:31:02
Jarrod Dyke
ah one that made me lose a few years on my life hurricanes and druah um
00:31:05
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:31:09
Jarrod Dyke
So it was, it was, oh man, I was, I was watching.
00:31:10
Grumpy Old Prop
How were your drawers after that one? Stained on both sides.
00:31:15
Jarrod Dyke
I watched, so I watched part of this one.
00:31:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:31:16
Jarrod Dyke
I got, I get, I work on Saturday mornings. I got up and I watched about the first half while I was sitting there drinking my coffee before I went to work.
00:31:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:31:25
Jarrod Dyke
And then I usually pop in about 45 minutes to an hour ahead of when I'm supposed to start coaching and during that I do a workout and watch watch whatever game I had on beforehand it was this one so a couple people in my gym got to see what I'm like when I'm watching especially when I'm watching rugby in a team I care about um
00:31:42
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:31:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:31:49
Jarrod Dyke
so yeah that was fun I mean this is probably the way this team's gonna live for the first half of the year at least um They're going to go as Cam Roy Gargos, and that's how it's going to be.
00:32:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:32:05
Jarrod Dyke
Harry Godfrey is, again, another very young, talented, extremely raw
00:32:13
Jarrod Dyke
player that's goingnna ah that's starting to come good already. But, um yeah, looks really, really good for for these guys.
00:32:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:32:25
Jarrod Dyke
Dewey, apart from his silly yellow card,
00:32:27
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:32:28
Jarrod Dyke
is making, is impressing me. He's impressing the shit out of me. I got it. It's got to be said. um Last two weeks, the new guy coming off but um New Zealand 7's Fiddyang Gofo.
00:32:41
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, he's looking good too. So yeah, lots to like about that. About that. there's There's still so many problems. Understandably, I'm not denying that.
00:32:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:32:51
Jarrod Dyke
You know, this, the way this,
00:32:52
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:32:55
Jarrod Dyke
kind of played out. There was a lot of mistakes made that the Druid were happy to capitalize on, but we were able to, you know, do our own damage just enough by the end. The Godfrey, yeah, the Godfrey, the trial that Godfrey created, and then I believe it was the one right before Half um that went to, thinking think I think it went to Brennan Goffo.
00:33:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:33:23
Jarrod Dyke
and And those two bits of play right there just tells me like he's up for the challenge. He's just got to keep his head on his shoulders and not get ahead of himself. But yeah, I like i like a lot.
00:33:36
Jarrod Dyke
James Dorman still sucks ass.
00:33:38
Grumpy Old Prop
ah yes
00:33:39
Jarrod Dyke
There were calls he was making up. I'm like, really? And there were he missed there were a couple that he missed both ways, and I'm just like, so that's not a lot. Okay, that's that that really is stupid, but I guess at least you'd played it both ways. But there were others, I'm just like, I'm pretty sure you called that exact same thing the other way, the other time.
00:33:58
Jarrod Dyke
What the actual fuck, dude. So... Another example why he shouldn't be anywhere near international rugby. Speaking of, like, there were, like, Ridley, same thing. Like, what the fuck was he doing refereeing a Six Nations game?
00:34:08
Grumpy Old Prop
oh Yeah, that was no no need.
00:34:11
Jarrod Dyke
Oof. Oof. Well, rugby, you've gone batty. I mean, yes, but, like, damn.
00:34:20
Jarrod Dyke
head Let's head over to forsight Bar. And... and
00:34:24
Grumpy Old Prop
This is like, to me, this was the game of the week. Um, must watch because i mean, I know you're thinking like, you know, going into it, you're like, oh, it's high they're going to get fucking run off the pitch by the blues.
00:34:37
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, the deception that, oh, wait, the Highlanders are going to honor Connor garden bash up. Um,
00:34:46
Jarrod Dyke
pregame, yeah.
00:34:47
Grumpy Old Prop
And have his brother there and have like the stadium sing.
00:34:47
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:34:52
Grumpy Old Prop
And, you know, a lot of his like teammates growing up in the lineup who are going to do him right.
00:35:01
Jarrod Dyke
yep
00:35:02
Grumpy Old Prop
And man, if you like, if you want to watch an inspiring effort, like this Highlanders team um was, was it And obviously no one ah more so than Tava Tavanawe who was just like, I am not letting my team lose this game.
00:35:17
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, immense.
00:35:20
Grumpy Old Prop
like I am i'm doing everything I can.
00:35:21
Jarrod Dyke
Nope.
00:35:24
Grumpy Old Prop
to you know We're down to 13 because DeGru gets hurt early and then Leonard Brown gets the, was it a red? um
00:35:32
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, and he's going to miss three weeks as well.
00:35:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
00:35:35
Grumpy Old Prop
So like, you know, again, another match ruined by a red card. Ruined.
00:35:40
Jarrod Dyke
It's ruined. It's ruined, I say.
00:35:42
Grumpy Old Prop
But, you know, nobody told Taven to Have an Ally. No one told Finn Hurley. No
00:35:47
Jarrod Dyke
No, I know there's, there's some really good things going on with that Highlanders back three between him.
00:35:53
Grumpy Old Prop
one told Gilbert. Yeah.
00:35:54
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:35:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:35:55
Jarrod Dyke
And Tingy Tao and like, yeah, there's some, yeah, there's some good things happening for them.
00:35:56
Grumpy Old Prop
its out yeah
00:35:59
Jarrod Dyke
um Things that I definitely wasn't expecting, you know, not that I have a ton of research going on in my, up my sleeve for this tournament until we get there, but damn, damn, damn, damn.
00:36:02
Grumpy Old Prop
her
00:36:11
Jarrod Dyke
Extremely impressive. Extremely impressive for these guys.
00:36:14
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, and the Blues, like, but yeah you know i know, I know you're, like, you've got a lot against you, but damn, like, a lot of not showing up from this team.
00:36:28
Jarrod Dyke
hmm like where was Talia where was it where was the 2-2 I know this is his first game but still where the fuck was he know a little bit yep
00:36:31
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, I don't know. Where was Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:36:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. I saw Papa Lee a little bit, but not not nearly enough. Tui Palazzo, I didn't see at all. Like, just their guys who were, you know, quality just didn't didn't show up. And I'm not really buying the the Harry Plummer experience here.
00:36:55
Jarrod Dyke
Well, he'll be gone after this season, so...
00:36:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:37:00
Jarrod Dyke
Maybe they can let him go now. ah Yeah, I don't know what's going on with this Blues team.
00:37:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:37:03
Jarrod Dyke
this is they're They're way too good to be...
00:37:08
Jarrod Dyke
to be on, what, zero points right now?
00:37:09
Grumpy Old Prop
dicking around like this. Yeah.
00:37:12
Jarrod Dyke
Or maybe they have one point, but still, like, come on, really? is it Is that really what this team's for?
00:37:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:37:18
Jarrod Dyke
No. No, no, no. Don't believe it, but... Yeah, extremely inspired from the Highlanders. Like, if you have not watched this game, stop what you're doing.
00:37:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, go ah watch it.
00:37:28
Jarrod Dyke
Go watch it. you You can stop listening to us, even.
00:37:31
Grumpy Old Prop
you know while you're While you're going to watch it, continue listening to us, but go watch it. Like, go prepare to watch it while we while we finish up here.
00:37:39
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:37:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, Blues have zero points.
00:37:40
Jarrod Dyke
Or even if you want to turn us off and just go watch it, I'm okay with that, too.
00:37:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, that's right. come Check back in on us afterwards and and let us know how awesome, like, you know, how, wow, that was a great recommendation.
00:37:45
Jarrod Dyke
Quite honestly.
00:37:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Thank you so much for it.
00:37:50
Jarrod Dyke
Right. Yeah, absolutely. ah Let's jump to GIO. Last one of the weekend. Did not have this on my bingo board.
00:38:04
Jarrod Dyke
By any means.
00:38:05
Grumpy Old Prop
ah Yeah. I... Brumby's not showing up and then showing up and then... if
00:38:14
Jarrod Dyke
Then spinning it at the end.
00:38:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Even with, you know, against what, five yellow cards? One, two, three, four yellow cards.
00:38:22
Jarrod Dyke
for. Although, Jeremy Williams' yellow card, I don't really buy it.
00:38:28
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm not saying they were good yellow cards, but four of them.
00:38:30
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yeah. No, I know.
00:38:33
Grumpy Old Prop
but That's half the match.
00:38:34
Jarrod Dyke
I'd...
00:38:34
Grumpy Old Prop
At least one player is off the field. Like half the match.
00:38:40
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I'd say... I'd say three of them were were earned somewhere because um either either the Prince of Yellow wasn't a yellow because it was, i thought it was shoulder contact, person quite honestly. And then the Williams challenge, like trying to charge down a kick, like due to knee hair.
00:38:58
Jarrod Dyke
Like he is way out.
00:38:59
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:38:59
Jarrod Dyke
He has no, like he cannot be responsible. He didn't stick a leg out. He didn't stick a knee out. He just kind of was there and freaking, dumbass andy mirrorhead decided or was it was i think it was mirrorhead yeah decided like i'm gonna run through this giant body like no that's that's your dumb ass's fault like it's not on jerry my way i was like i thought that was the fact that we even like went beyond penalty it was a penalty whatever i can live with it it wasn't a good decision in that but then the next they go next level and be like yeah yeah it's car it's like
00:39:15
Grumpy Old Prop
That seems like a mirror head thing to do.
00:39:35
Jarrod Dyke
Really? What plan are we on? i think O'Keefe was refereeing this match, wasn't he?
00:39:39
Grumpy Old Prop
sounds right.
00:39:41
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, I think he was.
00:39:41
Grumpy Old Prop
And they're talking all about how great he was. and it's like...
00:39:44
Jarrod Dyke
No, that tells me otherwise. Thank you very much. Yeah, another referee whose perception of him is that he's good, but really he's he's not. He's kind of crap.
00:39:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:39:58
Jarrod Dyke
Let's see. I'm trying to pull it up right now just before we move on here. Doo-doo-doo.
00:40:06
Jarrod Dyke
That's not it. That's not it. Oh, here we go. That's it.
00:40:13
Jarrod Dyke
Damn it.
00:40:16
Jarrod Dyke
Find it later. Oh, well. um Anyway. Yeah, that was that was a bit of a disappointment for the Runbeach fans. Now they didn't start Lola CEO. Yes, it was OK. God damn it.
00:40:28
Jarrod Dyke
um brimby's fans probably deserved a little bit better than what what they came up with certainly in those first few minutes uh let you know let the force right into the fight like that's a that's got that's a team that's got some talent in there that's they have tazano they have um donaldson obviously who was the hero the other week uh they have jerry jerry jerry what's up
00:40:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:40:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Nick Dolly.
00:40:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Nick Dolly.
00:40:51
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, they have Nick Dolly, they have Jeremy Williams, who I like a lot.
00:40:52
Grumpy Old Prop
You know.
00:40:54
Jarrod Dyke
Obviously, their back three looks like it's got something to say about this whole thing, especially with Potter and Page. like
00:41:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. More.
00:41:00
Jarrod Dyke
it They have some quality players, guys. Do not go just wandering off on your own like you're in La Land. like
00:41:07
Grumpy Old Prop
right
00:41:07
Jarrod Dyke
You've got to play this team properly. And they did not. And they got what they deserved, quite honestly.
00:41:16
Jarrod Dyke
All right, quick rip around of the MLers. um
00:41:20
Grumpy Old Prop
mill
00:41:21
Jarrod Dyke
Lesion just smashed Hanton this past weekend. I actually watched most games on Sunday because we had family over, and i was just like, I'd at least like to put some rugby on the background while I'm having to deal with entertaining people that I don't want to talk to sometimes.
00:41:37
Grumpy Old Prop
Hmm.
00:41:39
Jarrod Dyke
um So, ah yeah, watched the Warriors-Hounds. I thought the Hounds totally threw that game away. Miami, almost for the second week of Rome, an inexplicable blunder by my andy Miami. Their kicker, LES, was about to hit three and take it beyond it defer a try, and he let the clock wind down too far.
00:42:03
Jarrod Dyke
like and the and I think it was Will Hooley that was on the comms pointed out rightly, like they already said there was going to be a restart, so you might as well kick it on like five instead of instead waiting for it to get to zero and get bit by it, rightly so, and
00:42:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Just kick it. Yeah.
00:42:16
Jarrod Dyke
They were able to survive and NOLA was able to find a way to spit the bit because they're NOLA. But yeah, and I was like, oh God.
00:42:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep. That was, i mean, that's a matchup of which team loses, just decides to lose it.
00:42:27
Jarrod Dyke
ah Right.
00:42:28
Grumpy Old Prop
and The answer is both of them, but Miami was in the lead at the time, so.
00:42:32
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, that's true. And then RFCLA, kind of a disappointing start to the year considering that they're probably most people's favorites on paper.
00:42:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. ah Maybe they're just learning how to play with each other.
00:42:46
Jarrod Dyke
it's probably just a little bit.
00:42:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Maybe, actually, but still.
00:42:47
Jarrod Dyke
I would imagine so, but they, yeah, there's still some, and they grant there, there's still some guys that are missing and that that are not healthy. I get that, but I think a lot of teams can, can use that as well.
00:42:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, but they got smooshified.
00:42:58
Jarrod Dyke
But yeah, to have that happen to them with the Sabrecast. I know Houston was one of the best teams last year in terms of the regular season, but she, it disappointing to say least.
00:43:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:43:10
Grumpy Old Prop
Clean it up.
00:43:11
Jarrod Dyke
yeah Okay. Let's get into some superlatives. ah Five that outdid themselves. Or a few that outdid themselves.
00:43:22
Grumpy Old Prop
So, I mean, first nods, gotta to go to Tabataa now. Why?
00:43:27
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:43:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Has to.
00:43:27
Jarrod Dyke
Got him in there.
00:43:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Um...
00:43:30
Jarrod Dyke
Got him in there.
00:43:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Wilgriff John. I gotta support my tight head prop with the bald head and the the awesome mustache.
00:43:39
Jarrod Dyke
you were Yeah, he looks kind of like you, except he's got a mustache. You have a beard.
00:43:42
Grumpy Old Prop
He looks like the the guys from um Family Guy who lift the the trapezoid weights.
00:43:48
Jarrod Dyke
He does, you're right.
00:43:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Um...
00:43:51
Jarrod Dyke
the The trainers at the gym.
00:43:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:43:53
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:43:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Yup. Yup.
00:43:54
Jarrod Dyke
ah you
00:43:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Yup.
00:43:55
Jarrod Dyke
oh Yeah, that's a good one. Good shout.
00:44:00
Grumpy Old Prop
um yeah those were my two like that i really needed to get get out there
00:44:04
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:44:05
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:44:06
Jarrod Dyke
We've thrown some names around already, too.
00:44:08
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:44:08
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:44:09
Grumpy Old Prop
but those those two really and oh i mean and basically the whole pilanders team really but you know specifically as we mentioned hurley gilbert
00:44:17
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:44:18
Grumpy Old Prop
havet have an now why those you know those those three especially um
00:44:25
Jarrod Dyke
Very much so, yep.
00:44:26
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah Mm-hmm.
00:44:29
Jarrod Dyke
um Yeah, I'm into that. I would give credit to the whole back three of Wales. Me, Murray, Rogers all played pretty well for them themselves considering how inexperienced they all are.
00:44:43
Grumpy Old Prop
true
00:44:44
Jarrod Dyke
So, yeah, I think that was pretty good. um We talked about like Richie and the whole team. the told the whole
00:44:52
Grumpy Old Prop
We didn't mention Barre, but that's, you know, whatever. It's just been a huge blowout. So it's less impressive with the result.
00:44:57
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yeah, it's true. It is true. um
00:45:06
Jarrod Dyke
Shat the bed.
00:45:16
Grumpy Old Prop
I feel like, you know, it's it's an odd, it's weird to to say, but Will Jordan kind of shit the bed. I'm going to point some fingers at him.
00:45:26
Jarrod Dyke
Okay, there you go.
00:45:26
Grumpy Old Prop
um wanted Seva Reese as well, because like those guys, you know, obviously they're they're scaring you going into the game. And it was like, they just, they should have produced a lot more than they did.
00:45:37
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, no, not wrong. um
00:45:42
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, i I mean, I have like a couple of small, we talked about the two referees that were just absolute trochers, Brousset, Dolben, they're both just dog shit. um LCD's still crap.
00:45:53
Jarrod Dyke
I don't know but i don't know what why he's starting still.
00:45:53
Grumpy Old Prop
He is awful.
00:45:56
Jarrod Dyke
ah The England attack, just apart from a couple of moments, Barfzilla, just absolute Barfzilla.
00:46:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. him
00:46:06
Jarrod Dyke
And the it has to be said, Finn's kicking. Finn Russell's kicking.
00:46:10
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:46:11
Jarrod Dyke
Like, where did it go?
00:46:12
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:46:12
Jarrod Dyke
Where did it go? He's usually one of the better goal kickers in the world. And you needed one to win this fucking thing. One.
00:46:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Just one, just one.
00:46:21
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, man. um Ref coach young player.
00:46:30
Grumpy Old Prop
No refs don't don't have nothing to say about the rest.
00:46:33
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, right. Sad.
00:46:34
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:46:35
Jarrod Dyke
Sad.
00:46:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:46:38
Jarrod Dyke
Maybe, I might give a shot to, like, Nick Barry, who didn't think did a bad job in his game, but, like, that's Coach.
00:46:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:46:48
Grumpy Old Prop
So, yeah. um Honestly, Matt Sherratt.
00:46:53
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, I had him down, too.
00:46:57
Jarrod Dyke
Had him down, too. And then...
00:46:59
Grumpy Old Prop
That's like just just just a little bit of a like kick in the nads to get him going. Like, that's helpful.
00:47:06
Jarrod Dyke
yeah Right? he wrote there Yeah, and, you know, he shook things up. He did some good things. um
00:47:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:47:11
Jarrod Dyke
Two out three guys bringing it into the squad weren't bad. One them didn't quite do do himself justice, but, you know, um young player.
00:47:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Not. Yeah.
00:47:23
Grumpy Old Prop
I think that's where I'm going to go back to. Shoot, where was no wrong one.
00:47:31
Grumpy Old Prop
um That that. Finn Hurley.
00:47:35
Jarrod Dyke
There you go. That's a good one. That good one. I like it. Yeah, I'm going to go Blair Murray from Wales.
00:47:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Fair.
00:47:45
Jarrod Dyke
Really played well, I thought. And looks like he belongs there. Reece Samit, your job's been taken, bo dude.
00:47:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, in fright in front of you.
00:47:53
Jarrod Dyke
He was in the house.
00:47:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:47:55
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Although, I will say... and we didn't get into it when we were talking about the game the decision to disallow that try that he didn't believe was disallowed like you have two options there it either went forward or his hands in touch there's no there's no try either the way so the fact that it took so long to get to that fucking point it was kind of painful but no it was the correct decision no try and I'm i'm all for ordering
00:48:07
Grumpy Old Prop
h yeah
00:48:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Hey, I'd rather them get it right and take a little bit of time.
00:48:21
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, um' I'm all for awarding them when they're pretty, but yeah, nope, wasn't wasn't good, sadly.
00:48:27
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, he he never even made it in. and So...
00:48:28
Jarrod Dyke
No, no, no, no. ah Try the week.
00:48:35
Grumpy Old Prop
It was that Finn Hurley try to start the game. to To open the scoring.
00:48:38
Jarrod Dyke
Okay, nice.
00:48:39
Grumpy Old Prop
The chip and just like just to set that marker down as far as... We're here to express ourselves and...
00:48:44
Jarrod Dyke
We here, friends.
00:48:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Sorry? Right.
00:48:46
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, we here, friends.
00:48:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Like, we're not we're not stopping at the celebration. We're going to keep going.
00:48:54
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. Nope. I love it. Um, I'm going to go with the Jamie Osborne. Try that low, low tap down.
00:49:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. I
00:49:04
Jarrod Dyke
That, that was a, just a special piece of play right there.
00:49:06
Grumpy Old Prop
had a feeling that was on your radar there.
00:49:08
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. It was, uh, play the week.
00:49:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Tavis, have it now, why?
00:49:17
Jarrod Dyke
Love it. Love it. Love everything about it. Uh, I, I'm a little biased, but I went with Dewey Karifi. Like I said, a barring the the one silly yellow that he didn't need to take.
00:49:30
Jarrod Dyke
like Other than that, you know he's a co-captain right now. He's really you know making me question, why the fuck didn't you do this the whole time?
00:49:39
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah Right.
00:49:39
Jarrod Dyke
Because, I mean, this is what he can do when he realizes there's no there's no help coming. Like, why the fuck did you just do it to be begin with?
00:49:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:49:51
Jarrod Dyke
Dicks of the week. Or dick.
00:49:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Gaultier.
00:49:55
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, definitely a dick. Definitely a dick. I'm going with dimes because him bitching about ah brother wanting to join his other brother somewhere else doesn't rub me the right way.
00:50:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:50:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Where they win.
00:50:08
Jarrod Dyke
Sorry, dude. Also, you don't play good rugby. Yes, you're getting better.
00:50:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:50:12
Jarrod Dyke
as ah You're making that team better because it was just complete gobshite. But going from 0 to 1 is different than going from 1 5.
00:50:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:50:20
Jarrod Dyke
you know, let's let's let's be honest about that.
00:50:25
Jarrod Dyke
we got pick them.
00:50:27
Grumpy Old Prop
The picking of them.
00:50:29
Jarrod Dyke
Pick of them. um Just Super Rugby this week.
00:50:34
Grumpy Old Prop
yep
00:50:35
Jarrod Dyke
Moana Highlanders.
00:50:36
Grumpy Old Prop
I got Moana. Moana.
00:50:38
Jarrod Dyke
Okay, I'm going to take the Highlanders.
00:50:39
Grumpy Old Prop
feel like the Highlanders are going to have a little bit of a come down game. And Moana are at home.
00:50:43
Jarrod Dyke
They might, and I wouldn't be shocked in any way, shape or form.
00:50:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:50:48
Jarrod Dyke
Taz Druah.
00:50:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Taz.
00:50:51
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Drew on tour and already pretty tired from that.
00:50:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:50:55
Jarrod Dyke
From that Hurricanes gain and toss out the week off. So. um Chefs and Brumbies.
00:51:03
Grumpy Old Prop
The Chefs.
00:51:04
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, yeah.
00:51:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Googly moogly.
00:51:06
Jarrod Dyke
Great googly moogly. Hurricanes Blues.
00:51:13
Grumpy Old Prop
going with your guys.
00:51:14
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, man.
00:51:15
Grumpy Old Prop
i mean, the Blues still have zero points.
00:51:15
Jarrod Dyke
i I hope you're right. but know. I know.
00:51:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Zero points. I can't trust them yet.
00:51:21
Jarrod Dyke
But they're... The guys I have in key positions, Sands, Roy Gard, are better than the Hurricanes, as much as it pains me to say that.
00:51:28
Grumpy Old Prop
ah from
00:51:29
Jarrod Dyke
So I am going to take the Blues and hope to God that you're right.
00:51:32
Grumpy Old Prop
so yeah
00:51:34
Jarrod Dyke
um Force Reds.
00:51:38
Grumpy Old Prop
ah Reds.
00:51:39
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:51:40
Grumpy Old Prop
My one away team.
00:51:40
Jarrod Dyke
Not as... Yeah, not as nasty of a trip out to Western Australia for the Reds as it was as ah would have been for Moana and the likes, but...
00:51:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:51:51
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, still ah so decent trip, but I think they'll get it done. Also, did did were you watching the Western Force game when Nick White was just whinging about guys going off feet?
00:52:03
Grumpy Old Prop
No, I didn't see that part.
00:52:03
Jarrod Dyke
And you could hear, oh you could hear it clear as day for on the left. Michael, my dude, shut up.
00:52:07
Grumpy Old Prop
I did hear him whinging a lot, though, over the ref.
00:52:10
Jarrod Dyke
Like, God, you're yeah the only thing that is. No, just not none of it. Never mind. Never mind. you're You're done. You're done. Just be done with rugby.
00:52:18
Grumpy Old Prop
i I seem to remember him yelling um for offsides all a lot too.
00:52:22
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, and it wasn't necessarily accurate. And listen, I'm all for shitting on O'Keefe, but it wasn't always accurate.
00:52:25
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
00:52:30
Jarrod Dyke
Don't get me wrong. Happy to do it, but not here. Okay. Look at us wrapping that up nice and tightly. Show us.
00:52:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Tweet.
00:52:43
Jarrod Dyke
um So we're going to jump over to Fantasyland as usual. If you're not coming over there, we will catch you guys next week. If you are, we'll see you over there. And we appreciate you guys all listening listening to us and supporting us. And we'll catch we'll talk to you guys soon. Have a good one.
00:52:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Later.
00:52:59
Jarrod Dyke
Cheers.