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Season 7- Episode 24- Found Pollard's Kicking Boots, Up His A** (Premiership Semi-Final & Super Rugby Qualifying Round)
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It's more of those American rugby knuckleheads (now THAT'S a streak!) On this episode it's ALL about the post-season rugby. We are looking at the action from both Premiership matches and all three Super Rugby post-season matches (with their weird-ass system). We cover all the actiong from The Rec to GIO and everywhere in between. Plus, we talk about the Free Jacks getting it done in NOLA and looking ahead at their post-season action as well. Grab something to drink and join us fam!
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Transcript
Podcast Milestone and Listener Engagement
00:00:29
Jarrod Dyke
Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the Fancy Rugby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke.
00:00:33
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm Ben Glauser.
00:00:35
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, look at us getting there.
00:00:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Eventually.
00:00:39
Jarrod Dyke
We're here again.
00:00:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Three in a row. Wait, now it's a streak.
00:00:44
Jarrod Dyke
It is a streak. I believe that's what they call that.
00:00:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Three in a row.
00:00:47
Jarrod Dyke
I do believe that's what they call that.
00:00:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Though I'm beer-less this week, so I'm kind of boned.
00:00:53
Jarrod Dyke
I'm not.
00:00:55
Grumpy Old Prop
That's alright. Normal operation will resume next week.
00:00:57
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:00:58
Grumpy Old Prop
so Right.
00:00:59
Jarrod Dyke
Is that what they're calling that?
00:01:01
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't know.
00:01:05
Jarrod Dyke
Is that what we're calling it now?
00:01:09
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, make sure that you find us on your favorite podcast app. Share, download, rate, review. Feedback always welcome.
00:01:16
Jarrod Dyke
yeah
00:01:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Especially when it's positive.
00:01:17
Jarrod Dyke
Bye. Mostly positive. make sure that you buy our good friend George the Fantasy Roybe Geek, a coffee or beer as the season comes to a close. Many of you have avoided a forfeit of some sort or other, and it's probably thanks to George's advice that you did so. So make sure you ah pay that man ah his due and give him some love.
Willie Castro's Support for LGBTQ+ Community
00:01:41
Jarrod Dyke
And there's no there is no discrimination here on this podcast, and nor should there be in sports or in life. Spoils for choice once again.
00:01:50
Grumpy Old Prop
um I'm going to go the other direction on this, ah though.
00:01:51
Jarrod Dyke
Shocker today. Okay.
00:01:54
Grumpy Old Prop
um we've got a lot of Obviously, there's a lot of shit going on in the U.S., way too much. But let's give a shout-out to the Major League Baseball player, Willie Castro, of the the Twins, um who painted his eye black um in the as the trans flag colors.
00:02:04
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:02:13
Grumpy Old Prop
um Really cool move on his part to to show solidarity with people who are under threat. um from all sides, unfortunately, of our our political aisle here or aisles here in the U S.
00:02:26
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:02:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, and you know, something he obviously didn't have to do. And there's a lot of, um, you know, athletes who are dicks and they say, Oh, I'm not going to wear the, you know, any, any gay pride stuff or, you know, there's things that they just won't do.
00:02:42
Grumpy Old Prop
um you know, we've seen a lot in hockey where they've just canceled it entirely. Um, but this guy goes out of his way to, uh, show solidarity. And um we need to see more of that. So I want to go with you know a little bit of positive today.
00:02:56
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, yeah.
00:02:57
Grumpy Old Prop
So it's not just about, you know.
00:02:58
Jarrod Dyke
You know, people could make more statements with that, with the iBlack stuff too, if they wanted to, because it's not actually something scientifically that helps.
00:03:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:03:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
Athletes and Social Responsibility
00:03:09
Grumpy Old Prop
It's all mental, but it's cool thing to do.
00:03:10
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. So, yeah, I think more people should do that. Yeah. I'm doing goodmon Castro for doing that.
00:03:16
Grumpy Old Prop
And creative too, right?
00:03:17
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:03:17
Grumpy Old Prop
He's the he's the first who have have done that that I'm aware of, um certainly professionally.
00:03:18
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:03:21
Grumpy Old Prop
So really want to give him a shout out. And yeah, way to be on the right side.
00:03:25
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, no, I'm appreciative of it. Yep. Yeah. More help is needed than not. That's for sure.
00:03:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. And support. Like that's, you know, um for for those of us who grew up at a time when um like I was in college and when the first like football players started and like, you know, captains of teams started coming out as gay and it being accepted.
00:03:54
Grumpy Old Prop
And um because, you know, it was that.
00:03:55
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:03:56
Grumpy Old Prop
and But like for those of us who grew up, you know, when i like was so even when I was in high school, it would be unheard of for that to happen. Like a football player, get what? Like um let alone show support, even if you're not.
00:04:11
Grumpy Old Prop
was was weird. So let's you know let's see that. I love the to see that kind of progress. and and you know People worry so much about what would their ancestors think.
00:04:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Well, how about what your your children and grandchildren would think? like Let's let's go move go in that direction.
00:04:26
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, maybe worry about that. the other ones are gone.
00:04:29
Grumpy Old Prop
um Yeah. um And so, yeah, it's it's good to see um someone stepping out and saying, hey, these people need need our support and they they have mine.
00:04:41
Grumpy Old Prop
um We need that a lot more than, and I'd rather highlight that than highlight certainly the bullshit that's going on in LA with um people fighting back against this And they're not even really fighting. They're just sitting there saying, hey, don't do it. Don't do that. And let's, you know, let's have fun.
00:05:01
Grumpy Old Prop
And the cops are just shooting shit at them um to be dicks.
00:05:05
Jarrod Dyke
Totally makes sense.
00:05:06
Grumpy Old Prop
So, yeah, we don't need that. um One thing I do want to point out, though, within that is I've seen people say, i never, I don't see American flags at at these protests.
00:05:11
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:05:17
Grumpy Old Prop
um You know, these these people should have more American flags. And it's like, you know, like that'll show people what, you know, what those what those flags really mean. And I'm like, You know, there are people there with American flags and they're the ones shooting the protesters.
00:05:31
Grumpy Old Prop
So um maybe think about that.
00:05:33
Jarrod Dyke
Generally speaking, yes.
00:05:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Maybe think about that before you you try to tell people what the protesters should do and and how they should adorn themselves. Because, yeah, we're seeing the spirit of America.
00:05:43
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:05:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Let's change that.
00:05:48
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. No, no, no. Doesn't work. Not working like that chief. Not working like that.
00:05:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:05:54
Jarrod Dyke
All right. yep. And grab our Patreon if you want. We love you. If you don't anyway, it's okay. Don't forget that.
00:06:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Just a little less. Only very little.
00:06:07
Jarrod Dyke
Very little.
00:06:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Or
Bath vs. Bristol Rugby Match Analysis
00:06:10
Grumpy Old Prop
not at all.
00:06:10
Jarrod Dyke
All right. We got, we got some post-season rugby to talk. Um, friday Friday matchup, Bath and Bristol.
00:06:20
Jarrod Dyke
I started well for Bristol, but halftime came and the wheels came off.
00:06:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. um Well, it didn't hurt. the head They had two yellow cards and... um know randall was hurt early who want there a couple didn't have a couple injuries i'm going to their team uh sheet now um who came off early randall came off first half um yeah that was it so aj was banged yeah he was banged up kind of early had yeah um
00:06:36
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, that did not help.
00:06:45
Jarrod Dyke
AJ was banged up though for sure he was playing on one leg a little bit
00:06:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Just a, you know, brutal match on a little, brutal weekend for first certain ah players. um But yeah, it was, you know, just, not I wouldn't say like wheels coming off either. It was like was this still a close game, still a fun game the whole way through.
00:07:14
Grumpy Old Prop
um Certainly not boring, even though I texted you that it was boring. I was being kind of sarcastic there. Yeah.
00:07:19
Jarrod Dyke
I can't figure it as much. Generally speaking, when you send me that, I know it's not going to be that boring at the very least.
00:07:24
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Um, and even though like the first half was what, um, let me do the math real quick. 16 to six or something that. something
00:07:35
Jarrod Dyke
thirteen sex
00:07:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Something 13, six. Sorry. I, I, yeah.
00:07:37
Jarrod Dyke
thirteen six bristol
00:07:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Miscounted my quick and like that. It seemed like a lot more than that. Like it was not one of those like, Oh, that's it. There was a lot of action happening. Um, and, and a lot, uh, a lot of good stuff.
00:07:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, you know that butll We'll talk about it in a different segment, but that ah Bristol try um kind of you know early on in the in the match was just them setting down a marker saying, we're going to play from our own end and we're going to back ourselves.
00:08:07
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:08:13
Grumpy Old Prop
And they did, and unfortunately, it's just they they couldn't they couldn't get over the line enough. And Bath just kind of were slow and steady and and you know decided to put away the the um the tea after half and really open it up themselves, or at least go for glory themselves. And that's really what what changed the game.
00:08:37
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, the...
00:08:40
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, the Bath men just decided, yeah, you know, we're we've had enough of this shit. We're we're we're we're playing.
00:08:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:08:46
Jarrod Dyke
We're playing now. Enough of this. Enough of this. I mean, it didn't take long before halftime for Bath to get back um back into it.
00:08:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Ted Hill right away.
00:08:58
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, he'll try almost right away.
00:08:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Cockroach. Right after like almost right after that.
00:09:01
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, but ah and that is that's like ah that's such a huge plunge, too.
00:09:01
Grumpy Old Prop
You're almost right after that. Like.
00:09:05
Jarrod Dyke
It's like, You get those two, it's like, whoa, what the hell just happened?
00:09:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:09:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Yeah, they scored four tries in the first 20 minutes after ah after half.
00:09:10
Jarrod Dyke
Holy shit, did I just
00:09:17
Grumpy Old Prop
ah What was your question?
00:09:18
Jarrod Dyke
was just a huge punch. I said, holy shit, did I just just get laid?
00:09:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:09:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Yeah.
00:09:23
Jarrod Dyke
Quagmire after getting in the dust devil there. um Yeah, it was just a huge punch.
00:09:31
Jarrod Dyke
huge whack and it's like uh did we come out the locker room like what happened and
00:09:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:09:40
Jarrod Dyke
yeah i i feel for bristol because they did try to go for it but things were not sticking and then bath just the best defense was just really overwhelming after a point and it's like oh here we go this is this is where things go and then Randall off, Marmion on the card.
00:09:57
Jarrod Dyke
Like, that's just like, okay, here we go.
00:09:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:09:59
Jarrod Dyke
That's bad news. And actually, I was only half paying attention after our Jumbo scored.
00:10:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:10:05
Jarrod Dyke
I was like, and that's the end.
00:10:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. You can close the book on it.
00:10:08
Jarrod Dyke
Beyond, yeah, beyond two converted tries, I was like, and all right, I can put this kind of in the background of my mind and no longer need to pay attention not too heavily to it
00:10:08
Grumpy Old Prop
I was actually in the same that same boat. Yeah.
00:10:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Yeah. um
00:10:21
Jarrod Dyke
Good for a Jomo, though.
00:10:22
Grumpy Old Prop
But overall...
00:10:22
Jarrod Dyke
that he's He's huge in what Bath are going to be able to do because, obviously, we we know Ollie Lawrence is not joined back, and they do need, and Redpath is a different type of player, if still very good, but they need Jomo take another step and be huge in that midfield, and this week will be interesting to see how that goes.
00:10:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. He was. In a massive game.
00:10:47
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, yeah, totally. It was absolutely well-classed. was great.
00:10:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Overall, and and a season, though, in the end that that Bristol can, think, be proud of. right they the
00:10:59
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:11:01
Grumpy Old Prop
They made it a game against the what's clearly far, head and shoulders, the best team in the Prem. um And like you know really you know did themselves proud. it's it was a you know That's a tough you know tough place to go into, especially rivalry the semis.
00:11:22
Grumpy Old Prop
um in a way, and they threw their punches and um and gave it their best. So, you know, one of those, Pat Lamb was on a little bit on the hot seat going into this year, and I think he solidified himself as, no, he's he's earned
Bristol's Resilience and Future Prospects
00:11:37
Grumpy Old Prop
the right to continue to try to build that team to a potential championship side. there's There's just some some pieces that aren't quite there yet.
00:11:48
Jarrod Dyke
Very close, yeah. Very, very close.
00:11:51
Grumpy Old Prop
But like, you know, they've got, certainly if if Max Malins was, was healthy.
00:11:59
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:12:00
Grumpy Old Prop
And, you know, obviously the same thing with Ollie Lawrence, like there's, there's, there's a lot.
00:12:00
Jarrod Dyke
You gotta believe this is a different game.
00:12:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. It's just a different story for, for at least for, for Bristol. I think Bristol needed, need Malins a lot more than Bath need Lawrence.
00:12:14
Grumpy Old Prop
And that's not nothing against Lawrence. It's just that. That bath team is fucking stacked.
00:12:22
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:12:23
Grumpy Old Prop
So.
00:12:23
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:12:25
Jarrod Dyke
Downplaying some good stuff over there too, and obviously the guy wearing tan is helpful.
00:12:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:12:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. So, and there's a lot of teams that didn't make it to that situation, you know, that Bristol found themselves in that, you know, I don't know that they would put up ah any any, you know, certainly i don't think they would have put up a better fight.
00:12:41
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't know that Saris or Gloucester would have made it that close.
00:12:44
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:12:48
Jarrod Dyke
You mean Exeter wouldn't have...
00:12:52
Jarrod Dyke
a No, they wouldn't have. I think Beth could have put a third team in Exeter to find a way to cock it up.
00:12:59
Grumpy Old Prop
well, yeah. That goes without
00:13:03
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. All right. Let's go to Saturday. Saturday. Saturday. What day is it? Wednesday? Exactly.
00:13:13
Jarrod Dyke
um
00:13:15
Grumpy Old Prop
It's Tuesday?
00:13:15
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. i this was this was a hard This was a tooth and nail one all the way through.
00:13:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, you know what, though? i never felt like... It's funny, I never felt like Sale really had a shot at winning.
00:13:34
Grumpy Old Prop
It just felt like they were clawing.
00:13:35
Jarrod Dyke
I. Yeah.
00:13:37
Grumpy Old Prop
They were doing everything they could just to stay in it. And yeah, they tied it. But like it just, you know, and obviously the Parisi try was awesome, but it was like that's a try. Like as a, you know, as a professional team, as a especially a defense first team.
00:13:59
Jarrod Dyke
yeah
00:14:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Like how you let that happen. I mean, I looked at that Radman try the the kick from from Pollard. I mean, also, let's let's let's not let's not forget that Pollard was shit off the tee.
00:14:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Like this was only close because Pollard couldn't kick for shit.
00:14:15
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, he was...
00:14:19
Grumpy Old Prop
And I don't know what the hell happened to him.
00:14:19
Jarrod Dyke
No, which is a... which ah you know That's a collector's item, honestly, so...
00:14:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. So, I mean, and you know, that was Ben Vola Vola. I'm sorry. You're going to let Ben Vola Vola tear you apart with Isaiah Parisi. Like, I mean.
00:14:33
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, think most of us can't admit that Vala Vala is not that good.
00:14:33
Grumpy Old Prop
No. um
00:14:37
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. So and that was just a very easy pass to make. You know, it wasn't that hard. Like you you launched up past the ball. What the fuck are you doing?
00:14:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, so now you you can't even touch Parisi, so you're just giving him a free run through the middle of your defense. And then, like, your fastest players, he just outruns. That's not, that's that's embarrassing.
00:15:00
Grumpy Old Prop
um As much as, ah you know, we we we like the back three from Sale, um Joe Carpenter included.
00:15:07
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:15:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Carpenter got skinned, just skin on that.
00:15:10
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:15:13
Grumpy Old Prop
And
00:15:13
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:15:14
Grumpy Old Prop
No good. If you're if you're in young, up-and-coming 15, watch that as an what not to do.
00:15:16
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, he's got a...
00:15:22
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:15:22
Grumpy Old Prop
like
00:15:22
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. yeah
00:15:24
Grumpy Old Prop
um you know And same for the same for the centers. like that like the The launch was terrible. like ever They defended that as poorly as you can. And um yeah, that that was and that was the game.
00:15:37
Grumpy Old Prop
you know That's the thing, though. For a ah team that's like, Sail is like the the new Exeter. Let's put it that way. where your defensive-minded team, i don't you know this this the way the game is right now, it's only going to get you so far.
00:15:51
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:15:52
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, this is probably the point where I'll get you right here.
00:15:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Especially when... Yeah. Right. Because like Adam Radwin, we've been talking about him. He was a difference maker. He made the difference. How he caught that pat that kick.
00:16:03
Grumpy Old Prop
like
00:16:04
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, beyond me.
00:16:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Pollard thought he bottled it. Pollard was like, I fucked up. And it's like, no, it was perfect. Right in his arms.
00:16:10
Jarrod Dyke
up being just fine.
00:16:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Dotted down. Right.
00:16:13
Jarrod Dyke
Ended up being just fine, sir.
00:16:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. So yeah that's the funny thing is when he thought he bottled it, that was like his best kick of the day.
00:16:19
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. He's like, ah, shit. Oh, wait a minute.
00:16:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, okay. No, that was right.
00:16:24
Jarrod Dyke
Wait a minute.
00:16:25
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay, cool.
00:16:28
Jarrod Dyke
I've got something here. you know So, yeah, it was...
00:16:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:16:35
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, it was ah it was a good performance from Tigers, and the Michael Cheka effect is still still in full effect.
00:16:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:16:42
Jarrod Dyke
um And I'm, yeah, I'm certainly jealous of watching that team play in the way they did.
00:16:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:16:50
Jarrod Dyke
And,
00:16:53
Jarrod Dyke
yeah, i I was little jealous of it, honestly, because these guys have played really well. And they haven't, here's the thing about Leicester. Radwin's obviously made a huge difference and and we talked about how much it opened up the likes of Hassel Collins and Freddie Stewart.
00:17:08
Grumpy Old Prop
no
00:17:09
Jarrod Dyke
um What I've noticed about this team and the way they've gone about their business is not not I don't think one person has had to do has had to carry the weight the whole way through.
00:17:22
Jarrod Dyke
I think they've had several different people step up.
00:17:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:17:25
Jarrod Dyke
Yes, Montaja was immense and on saturday on Saturday. There's no question about that, and he generally is. Ali Chesum has had his days. Liebenberg has had his days.
00:17:35
Jarrod Dyke
um Even Joe Woodward's had his days, and obviously the Wings have had their time too. and it's it It speaks of balance, which is really dangerous in a lot of ways. It also means that without – The superstar, sometimes you can see guys, you know, if nobody has a good day, nobody's going to have a good day.
00:17:54
Jarrod Dyke
And that's just how it is.
00:17:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Yup.
00:17:55
Jarrod Dyke
um Without a complete world beater that's going to just take over a game. And I can't say they totally have one right now. Like Jasper Visa used to be one of those guys to me that was that would definitely do that.
00:18:08
Jarrod Dyke
And they don't have the likes of him anymore. And I'm not saying that they need him necessarily. But they do need a couple guys to step forward and say,
00:18:13
Grumpy Old Prop
no well...
00:18:17
Jarrod Dyke
um You know, today's my day and I'm going to carry us. They need a couple guys to do it. It can't just be one. It's got to be a couple.
Team Dynamics Without a Star Player
00:18:23
Jarrod Dyke
Should that happen on this coming Saturday, then Bath are going to be in for a fight and this is going to be a really interesting final.
00:18:30
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah i mean there's a there's a um a writer who used to be cool back in the day um before the new england page this is back before the patriots won their first championship so that's how long back i'm going um named by the name of bill simmons who jared may be familiar with um then some of you out there maybe yeah that's yeah um
00:18:48
Jarrod Dyke
Simmons, yeah.
00:18:52
Grumpy Old Prop
And he had he had a couple of of theories, sports theories, that I thought were actually really smart. um One of them being the the Patrick Ewing effect, which is you have this guy who's like dominant and everybody just stood around watching him back when he played for the Knicks.
00:19:09
Grumpy Old Prop
He was a center. um um Basketball, obviously, for those who might not be aware.
00:19:14
Jarrod Dyke
Yes, yes, yes.
00:19:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. But like the team was better without him when he would when he would be out of the lineup.
00:19:20
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:19:22
Grumpy Old Prop
And there's plenty of players that are like that. like Eric Lindros was like that for the Flyers a little bit. They leaned on him too much. And he was a great player. don't give you like These are amazing Hall of Fame-worthy players, legends.
00:19:33
Grumpy Old Prop
But like the team just leaned on them too much. And be like, I don't have to do as much because because Ewing or Lindros is there. Or Visa. Yeah. you know visa um and they don't have that, but they have so many guys who can step up like, ah Oh, it's like better than Jags, right?
00:19:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, you know, it's a bunch of Jags with someone like Patrick Ewing.
00:19:52
Jarrod Dyke
yep
00:19:56
Grumpy Old Prop
That's, that's not a good recipe, but like Holly crackdown is not great. Was, was, but he was great. Yeah. this weekend, like he did his job extremely well and won battles for, for the Tigers. Liebenberg, the same as you were saying, like Radwin was when they needed him, he was there.
00:20:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Like it was one of those, like he wasn't, he didn't take over the game exactly, but get him. Like there was like, no, get him. When you get them involved, when it's time to get them involved, get them the ball. Freddie Stewart, I thought was, was, was, you know,
00:20:25
Grumpy Old Prop
immense under the high ball he he won a couple of really bad kicks that just there were so there was a stupid like tactically but he made it work because he went out and you know and uh out jumped carpenter who right and and if you have a bad kick but a great chase then okay you're you're still all right
00:20:28
Jarrod Dyke
yeah
00:20:39
Jarrod Dyke
Kick's only as good as it's chase.
00:20:46
Jarrod Dyke
it's not so It's not such a bad kick.
00:20:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. um And Montoya, you know, Smith, Montoya, and Hayes dominating in the scrum early. Like, you know, like I'm left to wonder once more aloud why Luke Cowendick is on that Lions squad. Because,
00:21:05
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah, he played 80, but did he really bring anything to that?
00:21:09
Jarrod Dyke
Didn't see him.
00:21:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, did he bring anything to that game?
00:21:12
Jarrod Dyke
I don't think I can recall.
00:21:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Like,
00:21:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, and there are too many guys. i didn't I don't think I saw either Curry, although they both came off fairly early, but i didn't really see them that much doing anything.
00:21:22
Jarrod Dyke
One of them had it one of them met a chance to score, and as we know, Currys don't know how to fucking score unless they're given a walk-in.
00:21:30
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
00:21:30
Jarrod Dyke
So he balled it. I don't remember which one it was, to tell you the truth.
00:21:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. but yeah Right. i don't I don't remember either, but it's like, you know, not not pretty like Johnny Hill, Ernest Van Ryn.
00:21:35
Jarrod Dyke
It was Ben.
00:21:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, don't know.
00:21:44
Jarrod Dyke
Nope.
00:21:44
Grumpy Old Prop
these are These are a bunch of... Honestly, you look at the sale and for the most part, they're a bunch of jags. And it's it's it's kind of sad because Jean-Luc Dupree is a great player, although he's not an eight. What's he doing at eight? um You know, Massey White had a pretty damn good game.
00:21:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Dupree has scored, but only because... ah Who was it? Ran into the... Was it Pollard?
00:22:01
Jarrod Dyke
The post. Ouch. Oh, man.
00:22:04
Grumpy Old Prop
all
00:22:04
Jarrod Dyke
and that thing comes up on you quick, and you're like, ooh, what's that?
00:22:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:22:08
Jarrod Dyke
And it shocks you, if nothing else.
00:22:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:22:09
Jarrod Dyke
If nothing else, it shocks the hell out of You're like, what the fuck was that?
00:22:13
Jarrod Dyke
But, yeah, I think he took it.
00:22:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:22:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:22:15
Jarrod Dyke
think the ribs got him pretty good on that one. And then he took a shot from someone else too.
00:22:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:22:20
Jarrod Dyke
I don't remember who it was. think it was all the
00:22:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Nah, me neither. Oh, and then when when once Tom O'Flaherty came into the game, i'm like, that's that's it. like you He's you just not even worth... like The centers can bottle him up. He's not even worth a wing wing's attention because he's not fast anymore.
00:22:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:22:40
Jarrod Dyke
but
00:22:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, yeah, I thought i thought um Lester, though, to a man outplayed their their opposite number. And that's that's, again, why I wasn't really sweating it. I was like, Lester, have this in the bag like this is because Salem. Did they ever? I don't think they ever even had a lead.
00:22:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Let me see.
00:23:01
Jarrod Dyke
No, i think they tied it and that was it.
00:23:01
Grumpy Old Prop
No, they never did. They had it. They had it tied. It was tied twice for like five minutes each time.
00:23:10
Grumpy Old Prop
Give me a break.
00:23:11
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, sounds right. Yeah, they just... You know, they never quite went for it, which is something you're going to have to do here.
00:23:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. But that's not their style. Yeah.
00:23:21
Jarrod Dyke
And no, it isn't. And that's why it was only going to be so far that they could go.
00:23:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:23:26
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. I'd start Parise if I was checking next week, but...
00:23:33
Grumpy Old Prop
I think I... Yeah. guess.
00:23:34
Jarrod Dyke
That's just me.
00:23:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
00:23:36
Jarrod Dyke
That's just me.
00:23:36
Grumpy Old Prop
And Kata...
00:23:37
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, he...
00:23:37
Grumpy Old Prop
The biggest thing Kata did was stay out of the bin.
00:23:40
Jarrod Dyke
Yup, that's what I was thinking too when I was watching this game. was like, hmm, something like that hasn't gotten to the bin yet. Something's either going to happen here or Leicester is easily going win this game.
00:23:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. What is...
00:23:48
Jarrod Dyke
It wasn't so easily,
00:23:48
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
Crusaders vs. Reds Match Conditions and Outcome
00:23:50
Jarrod Dyke
but they definitely benefited from him not getting freaking sent to the bin.
00:23:55
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:23:58
Jarrod Dyke
um
00:24:02
Jarrod Dyke
This weird-ass fucking SuperDugby qualifying round. I don't know what to tell you.
00:24:07
Grumpy Old Prop
once again why not just have enough like give the the number one seed a bye and have one more playoff team why not
00:24:15
Jarrod Dyke
Well, or you could do you do top two and then three, four, five, six play each other. That's what the NFL used to do.
00:24:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:26
Jarrod Dyke
yeah don't even need to add teams.
00:24:26
Grumpy Old Prop
And that's, I mean, the, the, yeah, the, but right. And the one scene, one seed getting the buy would, would be what they're doing now. And it's like one of those two do one of one of those two, not this, Oh, one team's going to lose and move on.
00:24:39
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:24:40
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, it was, which made me kind of, we'll get to in a minute, but it made kind question, like, what was in the Chiefs' minds in their game. But um first, we'll get there.
00:24:51
Grumpy Old Prop
I think that was it. They're like, yeah, we'll get there.
00:24:55
Jarrod Dyke
Crusaders and Reds, sloppy conditions, and quite frankly, the Crusaders just played them better, and that's where it was at.
00:25:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. red Reds did not play a good game by any stretch. um i was I was severely disappointed in them. I thought they would at least make it a game, but um again, that like you're just...
00:25:14
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:25:18
Grumpy Old Prop
and Especially once Lina went out. That was it.
00:25:22
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:25:23
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't understand why.
00:25:24
Jarrod Dyke
yeah there
00:25:26
Grumpy Old Prop
um i don't understand that lineup. First off, why is. um Tim Ryan on the bench when you're starting Lockie and Jock Campbell, like.
00:25:38
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, I get Jock Campbell, but like if your wings are in, you know, Doug Gunu.
00:25:38
Jarrod Dyke
yeah
00:25:43
Grumpy Old Prop
And Ryan, you're doing all right, but throw Lockie. I know we got four tries last, but that was last week against a shit team.
00:25:49
Jarrod Dyke
It was a really shit team.
00:25:50
Grumpy Old Prop
What the fuck? Right.
00:25:52
Jarrod Dyke
It was a really shit team.
00:25:52
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:25:54
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, no.
00:25:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:25:55
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, you're right. Once once line is off, like that is bad news. and it would only It only got worse from there, sadly.
00:26:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. And, you know, you're starting Joe Braille, who is like your fifth flanker at most. um Not good times.
00:26:13
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, no, Uru was really hurtful for them, for sure.
00:26:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:26:17
Jarrod Dyke
That definitely smarted seeing that. I was like, ooh, that's not supposed supposed to happen.
00:26:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:26:22
Jarrod Dyke
That's not good.
00:26:22
Grumpy Old Prop
And no right, but, like, that's, you know...
00:26:25
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. I rate Uru much higher than I do Leon Wright, personally.
00:26:29
Grumpy Old Prop
Fair enough.
00:26:32
Grumpy Old Prop
But, yeah, but it's still, like, Uru, then him, but you then you're getting to Brielle, and it's like...
00:26:32
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, the...
00:26:36
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:37
Grumpy Old Prop
And then they talked him up at the beginning. Only because they talked him up at the beginning. I'm like, you have all these people here. They have McWright and Wilson. You're going to talk about Joe Briel as local. He's a real hard worker. No, he's.
00:26:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Come on.
00:26:50
Jarrod Dyke
Not quite.
00:26:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Like I said, fifth at most ah flanker on that team. Not great.
00:26:57
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Um, Revisor Hanna brought his kicking boots though. First, one of the first, um, I think it was the second conversion.
00:27:03
Grumpy Old Prop
He did. he
00:27:06
Jarrod Dyke
I was like, Oh, okay.
00:27:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:09
Jarrod Dyke
Good kick. Damn.
00:27:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Yup.
00:27:11
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, it's just not something we've seen. Uh, the, the 10 shirt sans O'Connor, um,
00:27:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Cause Williams scored in the corner. I think that was. Cause
00:27:19
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, i yeah. Made life hard on him there.
00:27:22
Grumpy Old Prop
it was a good, you know, a good prop try. Right.
00:27:24
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:27:24
Grumpy Old Prop
Good prop try. and And it was like, okay, well, you know, that's tough kick. and And it wasn't at the right corner too. It wasn't even, it was like, ah made it even harder. Like, yeah, super impressive.
00:27:35
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, neither corner's fun, so.
00:27:37
Grumpy Old Prop
no um but at least from the left you can kind of kick it you know you you have that natural you know curve to the left if you're a right-handed or right boot and you know yeah you're kicking away from the you know the curls keeping going away from the post like that's tough and i'm pretty sure that's where it was but don't think about it
00:27:44
Jarrod Dyke
Curl, yeah. Hmm.
00:27:59
Jarrod Dyke
Don't worry. Nobody's going to, I promise you.
00:28:00
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah good um
00:28:03
Jarrod Dyke
ah So, yeah, this was not really a contest, unfortunately. And especially, like like we said, once right left, that was game over for this whole idea of it being a game.
00:28:08
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
00:28:14
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:28:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
00:28:17
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, and then so Chiefs Blues, like, final 20 minutes, you wonder, like, did the Chiefs just put their feet up into the armchair, or what the hell happened?
00:28:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Well, see, I thought that that was that in the first half. Why you you you've you've kicked... You kick three penalties and then four if you count right you know before you score try.
00:28:36
Jarrod Dyke
Three penalties.
00:28:38
Grumpy Old Prop
like you know
00:28:39
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:28:41
Grumpy Old Prop
I just felt like they weren't really... They were kind of going through the motions in this game. and in And... Like... They didn't really care if they won or lost. It just didn't matter.
00:28:55
Grumpy Old Prop
And the way it shakes out in the end, they're still going to play the... You know... but yeah They still have a home match against...
00:29:02
Jarrod Dyke
Probably the team they prefer to play in this whole this whole scenario.
00:29:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Right. I mean, in a way, they're in a way. Well, mean, we'll get to the let's mean, I would say move on to the next match because like that could have really come back to haunt them.
00:29:18
Grumpy Old Prop
That strategy really could have.
00:29:19
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:29:20
Grumpy Old Prop
And I think in the end, it it it didn't. I think they're going to they're going to be all right. But
00:29:25
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:29:26
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah, like this, you're not a team that kicks.
00:29:27
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, man. Yeah, Hurricane.
00:29:29
Grumpy Old Prop
You're not going to that wins by kicking a post. No, nobody is in this competition. You score one try, you're not going to win.
00:29:33
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:29:35
Grumpy Old Prop
And, you know, that was... Yeah.
00:29:39
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, no. I mean, Hurricane's valiant effort. Lots of good things.
00:29:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:29:44
Jarrod Dyke
You know, a couple of silly mistakes from... Guys like Love and, in the end, Harkin. There's there ah there a ton to like about the the Hurricanes team this year, and I'm sure we'll lose more guys.
00:29:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:29:56
Jarrod Dyke
I'm, like, 90% sure we'll lose a few guys. um Brett Cameron coming back was ah just a ah huge, like, boost. um not seeing the rest of Not seeing Harry Godfrey for the rest of the season was really –
00:30:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:30:09
Jarrod Dyke
hurtful for sure because his development as every week went on was becoming it was just growing exponentially and it was huge so when he got hurt and just never recovered from it it was extremely painful for their their sakes but yeah you know it was yeah they i mean they gifted right a try on that
00:30:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:30:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:30:31
Jarrod Dyke
it was on the inside ball that he read he read like a book was like god damn it that's like shit he knew it was coming i mean it i was like yeah i think you telegraphed that just a tiny bit just a tiny bit and there it goes i was like fuck a duck there goes that so it was yeah i'm yeah i'm overall i'm happy with the hurricanes considering how much they lost um
00:30:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:30:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, a little bit.
00:30:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:30:54
Jarrod Dyke
There's a lot of young talent, as I've known before, Harkin, Godfrey. We know Lockheye and Yose are still up and coming and going through the motions. i thought One guy I thought played really well this season when he was healthy was Caleb Delaney, the second row.
00:31:10
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:31:12
Jarrod Dyke
a place that needs a they need a young guy to really step forward so I'm hoping that his his growth continues to go upwards and he doesn't turn into a shithouse like some of the ones that they have but yeah and like and like even like Devery that was great it was great to see him step forward while Amua was figuring out his injury situation and all that stuff and that actually bit him here too so yeah um overall good I don't have a ton of bad things to say about the Brumbies there.
00:31:43
Jarrod Dyke
That's a really good team. Liliceo being back on the saddle was extremely huge for them.
00:31:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:31:49
Jarrod Dyke
And as soon as I saw he was healthy the other week, i was like, God damn it That's not good.
00:31:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. He had himself a game. Yeah.
00:31:55
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, that was really bothersome for me, but that's what it is.
00:31:59
Grumpy Old Prop
And I thought your boys played well. I was, but you know, that is a you know, keep your head up. Like you you, you have no reason to, to to be on the sulk after that, like quality season. Like you're, there's, like you said, a lot of young guys that are still learning how to win. um And they're stepping forward and they're going to, they're going to, they're, I'm again,
00:32:22
Grumpy Old Prop
As a chief supporter, I'm very pleased with this outcome because ah didn't want to see hurricanes again. I have a much better, you know, whatever happens this this coming weekend, um you know, I think the odds still are um are better against the Brumbies than they would have been against the hurricanes.
00:32:28
Jarrod Dyke
No, probably not.
00:32:39
Jarrod Dyke
<unk>m Traveling over over the the ditch there doesn't doesn't help the the traveling team always.
00:32:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Yep.
00:32:49
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. ah Callum Harkin, he is like three better decisions away from being a really good player. He's had a couple of he's at a couple of great moments, and then he ends them with boneheaded decisions.
00:32:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Yep.
00:33:00
Jarrod Dyke
I'm like, no, you idiot. What are you doing?
00:33:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:33:05
Jarrod Dyke
and like i also i almost don't even need to look. I'm just like, who? Oh, it was Harkin. God damn it.
00:33:11
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:33:15
Jarrod Dyke
But I think if he, I assume he's going play NPC this year. So hopefully with that time, he develops a little bit more and and in that role, in that type of role where he's that second receiver and decision-making process gets improved for him. So looking forward to watching him, and I'm sure he and the likes of him, love, and Godfrey, yeah, make me happy about what's going on with the Hurricanes there. um Free Jacks.
00:33:49
Jarrod Dyke
That one.
00:33:50
Grumpy Old Prop
theres there's There's a line in um in a movie that has been one of my favorites throughout the years and and
00:33:59
Grumpy Old Prop
it has its problematic moments, especially as it ages, but, um, it's, it's overall the, it's got heart.
00:34:04
Jarrod Dyke
lot of them do.
00:34:06
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm sorry.
00:34:07
Jarrod Dyke
I said a lot of them do.
00:34:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. A lot of them do And, uh, it's, it's, uh, how and Kumar go to, um, go to white castle.
00:34:14
Jarrod Dyke
White Castle.
00:34:15
Grumpy Old Prop
And, uh, it's ah and It's obviously it's topical for a lot of our our conversation now, but they, they, they, one of them gets locked up and he's in there and in this lockup with a, with a black guy who's arrested. He was just sitting at his house, reading a book and the police stormed in and took him to prison.
00:34:33
Grumpy Old Prop
And he ends up saying like, and he's like, how are you so like, okay with this? And and he's like, there's no use, you know, blah, blah, blah. The universe tends to unfold as it should. So all that to say that um the MLR universe unfolded as it should.
00:34:48
Grumpy Old Prop
The Free Jacks are, once again, the number one seed, um despite having their troubles and and struggles throughout the season.
00:34:54
Jarrod Dyke
he
00:34:57
Grumpy Old Prop
They're still the best team in the East. ah um Now they just have to finish the job.
00:35:03
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:35:05
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:35:05
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:35:05
Grumpy Old Prop
like that's That's really it.
00:35:06
Grumpy Old Prop
if they and that but like What I really liked about this game this weekend was... You're on the road against a team that basically has their bags packed. But as they showed you right early on, there they're not going to just go away.
00:35:21
Grumpy Old Prop
right um
00:35:21
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:35:22
Grumpy Old Prop
I know you had to join late. Did you end up seeing that that first try? um It was it the chip that went...
00:35:26
Jarrod Dyke
Uh, the Lantra? Oh, the other one. No, for them.
00:35:30
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah um like they they they
00:35:30
Jarrod Dyke
yeah yeah. Yeah, I saw that. was That was a cheeky little one.
00:35:34
Grumpy Old Prop
They laid down a statement saying, look, yeah, we're going home, but we're still going to give you something. We're not just going to roll over.
Free Jacks' Perseverance and Strategy
00:35:40
Grumpy Old Prop
um and it was a change team for the free jacks they they they had a bunch of guys you know sit out which was the right thing to do and uh
00:35:49
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, no Paula, I believe.
00:35:51
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah no paula unfortunately patras is out for the year that did not look good i'm guessing he's done for a while um
00:35:55
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, man, that hurts.
00:36:00
Grumpy Old Prop
But like you still just got the job done. that We've seen them have go down with changed sides to think what was it Miami and and lose. they've We've seen them do you know
00:36:07
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, man, bottled it.
00:36:09
Grumpy Old Prop
shit the yeah we've seen them shit the bed when they do this. And this team said, you know what? no we're going to play like Free Jacks. We're going to play like we're the starters. Not screw around. And yeah, the the result the out the the overall play wasn't as good as it was if you had that full squad out there.
00:36:26
Grumpy Old Prop
But It's certainly good enough to beat NOLA when when they play, when you know, when they their seaside plays their A game. That's good enough.
00:36:35
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, it was good enough to lock in the one seed. So it was, yeah, you know, and I'll be the first to admit that, like, oh, man, we got problems the whole so when the season started and we were we were stumbling.
00:36:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:36:47
Jarrod Dyke
and There's no no denying it.
00:36:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:36:48
Jarrod Dyke
We were definitely stumbling.
00:36:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:36:50
Jarrod Dyke
But, yeah, in the end, just cooler heads prevail and... Good things happened in the end, so it was good.
00:36:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Right.
00:36:59
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I mean... Lennon... Yep. Sorry. Here's what I don't get about NOLA, which is... and And I know they... Not all these guys are were available right off bat.
00:37:10
Jarrod Dyke
Like, DeHaas and Cardi were on this team for a good chunk of the season.
00:37:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:37:14
Jarrod Dyke
And... How many wins they have? Two?
00:37:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Four.
00:37:18
Jarrod Dyke
Three? Oh, four? Still.
00:37:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Let me get four.
00:37:20
Jarrod Dyke
They only mustered four? We had five losses. Like... You guys had four wins? What?
00:37:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Let me sit. Let me, I'm going over to the standings now, but I'm pretty sure they only had four wins.
00:37:28
Jarrod Dyke
What?
00:37:33
Jarrod Dyke
Yikes.
00:37:36
Jarrod Dyke
mean, not...
00:37:37
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, Nola had, yeah, they're four, four and 12.
00:37:40
Jarrod Dyke
yeah Yeah, I don't get how you have a guy that's definitely the Eagles' nine and ah guy that should be the Eagles' ten and only churn out four wins.
00:37:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm.
00:37:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:37:57
Jarrod Dyke
And Danny Lee came over from Legion to supposedly make, like, to get them over the line.
00:38:04
Jarrod Dyke
yeah we We took some backwards steps here, folks. Just won't point that out.
00:38:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. um Yeah, I don't get it. It's. ah
00:38:17
Grumpy Old Prop
mean the the I mean, the one thing I if i you know want to hang your head on anything, it's your four and 12 with a negative 45 point differential, which means your losses were close.
00:38:30
Grumpy Old Prop
ah you know, for the most part, I guess. I don't know what their schedule was, but and I don't really care to look. ah But either way, you didn't get blown out much.
00:38:41
Grumpy Old Prop
So...
00:38:41
Jarrod Dyke
No. No.
00:38:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. But still, like, you can't be losing... Like, if you're a serious... they're they're They have traditionally been better than that, but...
00:38:54
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, i mean, every year they get talked up by the pundits for for MLR.
00:38:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:39:00
Jarrod Dyke
And I'm sorry, but every year they try and find a way to screw it up. It's like, they're they're deliberately trying to make these guys look stupid at this point.
00:39:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:39:09
Jarrod Dyke
I'm convinced of it.
00:39:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:39:10
Jarrod Dyke
It's like, guys, aren't you trying to score and, you know, make things look better? Like, what did miss? I don't get it. Yeah, beats the shit, beats the holy shit out of me.
00:39:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:39:23
Jarrod Dyke
So, womp womp. Anyway, yep, Free Jacks are going to take on Miami on Sunday, Father's Day.
00:39:33
Grumpy Old Prop
And, uh,
00:39:34
Jarrod Dyke
I know ah know what this dad's doing.
00:39:38
Grumpy Old Prop
having some beers at the game.
00:39:40
Jarrod Dyke
Yes, sir.
00:39:41
Grumpy Old Prop
but Especially after youre the distress you're going to be under on Saturday when ah Jared's...
00:39:45
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, hopefully the...
00:39:46
Grumpy Old Prop
By the way, for those of you out there, Jared's team's playing in the state finals.
00:39:52
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, boys are... Boys are in the final, despite our... there's There's a bit of a cloud over our semifinal win, but listen, take it.
00:40:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:40:02
Jarrod Dyke
I'll take it. I'm not mad about it.
00:40:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:40:07
Jarrod Dyke
It's annoying, but I'm i more than happy about it at the same time.
00:40:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, right. Good.
00:40:15
Jarrod Dyke
But yeah, so that'll be fun. It'll be fun on Saturday, hopefully, in some capacity, at least.
00:40:22
Jarrod Dyke
I made the... I made the decision because I didn't, the girl, when the girls got to the set, the final of the year and I lost, I didn't give them their medals. I let someone else do it and I made that then ah decision actually. So no matter what happens on Saturday, I will give the boys their medals.
00:40:41
Grumpy Old Prop
ah
00:40:42
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. So yeah, I'll try and do my best with that.
00:40:44
Grumpy Old Prop
See that you do. Well, I will see that you do because I will be there.
00:40:47
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I know. You just say, it they say aren't you going to be there too?
00:40:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, I will be there too.
00:40:51
Jarrod Dyke
Okay, good to know. All right. um
00:40:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Because when I say Jared's team, I am am volunteering for the team.
00:40:54
Jarrod Dyke
Anyway.
00:40:56
Grumpy Old Prop
I feel like I'm there.
00:40:57
Jarrod Dyke
Say Ben's been helping out and he's giving he's giving the No, he's he's been ah he's been a help.
00:40:58
Grumpy Old Prop
I've been helping out. Yeah.
00:41:06
Jarrod Dyke
so And the boys like are loving him. don't know what's wrong with him, but that's okay. Okay.
00:41:13
Grumpy Old Prop
My yeah, I mean, i I like them a lot, too. So to hear that they're they're they're happy with me, that that makes me happy because a good group of guys.
00:41:19
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, no. Good bunch. Anywho,
00:41:25
Jarrod Dyke
let's go through a couple of superlatives and then we can get the hell out of this.
00:41:28
Grumpy Old Prop
hmm.
00:41:28
Jarrod Dyke
um Anybody that comes to mind that outdid themselves.
00:41:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Um.
00:41:37
Grumpy Old Prop
Like Ben Vola Vola first off again, just, just for that one pass.
00:41:41
Jarrod Dyke
Okay, there you go. That's fair.
00:41:43
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:41:43
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Okay.
00:41:44
Grumpy Old Prop
And Isaiah Parisi who has kind of been kind of quiet to really um show up when it mattered. um
00:41:51
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:41:53
Jarrod Dyke
I'll give Cracknell a shout. and i'm And I'm not a huge Cracknell fan either, so that says a lot about that.
00:41:56
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah oh yeah. That's a good, that's a good show. No.
00:42:01
Grumpy Old Prop
He had himself a day. um Radwin, too.
00:42:03
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:42:04
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm going to big, knee obviously, not much playoff experience for Adam Radwin, but
00:42:10
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:42:11
Jarrod Dyke
No. Very, very very little.
00:42:11
Grumpy Old Prop
ah
00:42:13
Grumpy Old Prop
did did pretty well for himself.
00:42:15
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. No, that was good stuff. Um...
00:42:22
Jarrod Dyke
Uh, yeah. Shad it.
00:42:26
Grumpy Old Prop
ah Andre Pollard.
00:42:28
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:42:29
Grumpy Old Prop
would Again, this that match would have been nowhere near as close if he didn't leave his kicking boots up his ass.
00:42:37
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Um, I gotta, I gotta put Les Kiss on the list. the red The Reds coach, like... i i I like to think that he did not pick Harry McLaughlin Phillips because he was um because he was hurt.
00:42:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Fair.
00:42:54
Jarrod Dyke
Not because he thought that was a good idea. it bit him right in the ass.
00:43:02
Jarrod Dyke
But still, yeah. Just the overall vibe of the Reds.
00:43:04
Grumpy Old Prop
no doubt yeah
00:43:06
Jarrod Dyke
The way the the way they played and where a few guys withstanding. Blah. Blah.
00:43:16
Jarrod Dyke
Um...
00:43:19
Jarrod Dyke
Any refs coaches, young players you to shout?
00:43:22
Grumpy Old Prop
i do want to shout out a ref give me one moment while i get back to him where was he uh so i hope you're sitting down for this and i know you're sitting down because i can see on video uh matthew carley and um and stew tahiji uh for the uh if for for nothing else the um shoot who was it let me see um it was the the play where it was at right at the the base of the end of the match um where was it uh johnny hill knocked it on um
00:43:35
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, okay.
00:43:39
Jarrod Dyke
Terridge, yeah.
00:43:55
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:43:59
Grumpy Old Prop
but it was a
00:43:59
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:44:00
Grumpy Old Prop
And it was, was it Ali Hassel Collins who came in on to break the big to tackle? Yeah,
00:44:06
Jarrod Dyke
Sounds right.
00:44:06
Grumpy Old Prop
or ah yeah one of them I can't remember which which back it was for um for Lester, who came in low, clearly trying to wrap,
00:44:17
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:44:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes, there was head contact, but it was it's a it's clearly a rugby incident because his he was bent at the waist like everything was low that just the the runner dropped his head into contact and then knocked the ball on and they they looked at it and they said, this is nothing like it's not even a penalty.
00:44:24
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:44:30
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, nothing in it.
00:44:34
Grumpy Old Prop
This is nothing. And even after there was a there was a um shoot, was it I get must not have been this match because I don't know that anybody were there any cards in this match?
00:44:45
Jarrod Dyke
Not that I can recall.
00:44:46
Grumpy Old Prop
No. So then which, but it must've been, um, maybe i'm going to go over to Bath Bristol a second because there was another, there was a similar instance in that with Revovo where they looked at and they're like, this is a penalty only.
00:44:58
Jarrod Dyke
Revolvo. Yep, I remember it. and
00:45:04
Grumpy Old Prop
And they were right. Like it was a high tackle, but it wasn't like, no, no, no, no real degree.
00:45:06
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:45:09
Grumpy Old Prop
It was just a, uh, they fucked up. I can't, I think it was a high tackle. Um,
00:45:15
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I believe so too.
00:45:15
Grumpy Old Prop
And they were like so like, yeah, no, this is not worth a yellow. And then you're not even taking into account it would have been a red. It was just like, no, this is in the yellow card. So I can't, you know, we're good. It's penalty only.
00:45:26
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:45:27
Jarrod Dyke
yeah
00:45:28
Grumpy Old Prop
So I guess I'm also going to...
00:45:28
Jarrod Dyke
It was Freddie Stewart.
00:45:30
Grumpy Old Prop
It was Freddie Stewart. Okay. So I guess I'm going to shout out both um Carly and and Christoph Ridley.
00:45:37
Jarrod Dyke
And Ridley, which is which says a lot.
00:45:37
Grumpy Old Prop
Fuck. Who's...
00:45:39
Jarrod Dyke
That one says a lot more than the Harley one.
00:45:40
Grumpy Old Prop
What the... So...
00:45:42
Jarrod Dyke
Let's be honest about this.
00:45:44
Grumpy Old Prop
so This is craziness that both of them are getting a shout out, but um for for good decisions.
00:45:49
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:45:50
Grumpy Old Prop
And I thought that I thought they let the games play out. They let the teams handle it. Like, yeah, Ridley had had yellows to distribute the players who earned it, but he didn't go nuts with it and didn't over um overexert himself or over insert himself into the game.
00:45:56
Jarrod Dyke
As...
00:46:05
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:08
Jarrod Dyke
Which referees, a lot referees will do, unfortunately.
00:46:08
Grumpy Old Prop
So.
00:46:10
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:46:11
Jarrod Dyke
Love to hear themselves chat.
00:46:12
Grumpy Old Prop
So it's, you know, we we haven't had many um of these instances, but I thought that the refs, especially in the Prem, did ah did a good job. So shout out to those two.
00:46:23
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Try the week.
00:46:27
Grumpy Old Prop
James Dunn. And it's like, OK, it's not James Dunn. It's the James Dunn track because he's the one he's the one who ended up with the ball.
00:46:34
Jarrod Dyke
who ends it, but yeah, it was good play.
00:46:37
Grumpy Old Prop
But, you know, started but I think it started with rovo well it started with them getting the ball to Revovo and him just, like, taking it out and then right.
00:46:43
Jarrod Dyke
More often than not, it ends well.
00:46:46
Grumpy Old Prop
and And from his own twenty inside their own 22, driving it out towards midfield. And then, like, a couple of phases later, putting it over. Like, really well done.
00:46:56
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, that's the stuff you want to see from, that's of the stuff Pat Lamb certainly wants to see, that's for sure.
00:46:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:47:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. And especially to have have a lock finish it, that's that's really cool. And finish it in space, not just, ah you know, this isn't a day viewer's try.
00:47:09
Jarrod Dyke
Dive over, yeah, yeah.
00:47:11
Grumpy Old Prop
um This was, a you know, he he he took a couple, you know, it was probably from around, you know, just inside the 22. So he took like two or three steps before he fell over the line. Because he's fucking giraffe.
00:47:22
Grumpy Old Prop
But ah no, he actually took some steps and and broke the line and um and finished.
00:47:27
Jarrod Dyke
Let's go.
00:47:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, that's that's how you do it And that's, again, as you said, that's Pat Lamb rugby. Yeah. um I'm sure he was excited about that and as we all were thinking it would be a game and it was.
00:47:38
Jarrod Dyke
yeah
00:47:41
Jarrod Dyke
Radwin.
00:47:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:47:43
Jarrod Dyke
The dive.
00:47:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
00:47:45
Jarrod Dyke
Just, yeah, timed it well. ah Fixed what was ah not a great kick into and a spectacular try. So, yeah, it says a lot about Radwin.
00:47:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:47:57
Jarrod Dyke
Radwheels. Player of the week.
00:48:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, thought you said, I thought Radwin was player of the week. Oh, you're going with that was try the week.
00:48:05
Jarrod Dyke
No, no, no. i
00:48:06
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm going with Radwin as player of the week.
00:48:06
Jarrod Dyke
I was going for that try of the week. Oh, okay.
00:48:08
Grumpy Old Prop
To me, to me, he was player of the week as well for the two tries and um really setting his team up to to be in the driver's seat the rest of the match.
00:48:11
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:48:18
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:48:18
Grumpy Old Prop
um Again, not his fault that, ah you know... but I don't know what it was.
00:48:23
Jarrod Dyke
Pauly forgot his kicking boots at um but Was not his best, to say the least.
00:48:25
Grumpy Old Prop
ah Yeah. I think I texted you. How does this, how the fuck does this guy have two world world cup championships under his belt? Like, I mean,
00:48:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, that's one of those, like, if he didn't have that, could you imagine the the hue and the cry from from fans everywhere? Like, if you have those in your back pocket, you can get away with a game match like this. But if it was like Marcus Smith having a game like this, we wouldn't we would still not be here.
00:48:51
Grumpy Old Prop
like We'd still be talking about it constantly.
00:48:54
Jarrod Dyke
Truth. Yeah. Truth.
00:48:58
Grumpy Old Prop
I think Finn Smith would get a little bit of a pass, and I think we all know why that that difference of reaction would happen.
00:48:59
Jarrod Dyke
Uh-huh.
00:49:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Let's move past that. um
00:49:06
Jarrod Dyke
We'll get beyond that.
00:49:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, either way. um
Super Rugby and Premiership Finals Predictions
00:49:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, Radwan was the one who kind of led from the front for that for that victory for Leicester.
00:49:11
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, no. No.
00:49:14
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, good on him. I'm to go low-hanging fruit. Finn Russell pulling the strings, especially in that second half.
00:49:23
Grumpy Old Prop
a
00:49:24
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, making making magic happen.
00:49:25
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, he was okay. Yeah. That's, yeah, definitely a good shot.
00:49:29
Jarrod Dyke
This is the room where they make the magic happen. It's called The Wreck.
00:49:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. the fan the the the It was cool to see the two like people in the units next door to each other all both watching out the window. like I'm sure they were talking to each other through the through the windows.
00:49:46
Grumpy Old Prop
But um that's pretty cool.
00:49:47
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm. Still fun.
00:49:48
Grumpy Old Prop
I love that that from from stadiums. You don't get that too much in the US outside of Wrigley Field.
00:49:53
Jarrod Dyke
No. Yeah, Wrigley. Found away at one point, but not anymore.
00:49:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:49:59
Jarrod Dyke
Camping Yards is the only one think I think of. thought they had some at some point.
00:50:02
Grumpy Old Prop
No, there's no there's no way to watch, really.
00:50:07
Jarrod Dyke
Okay.
00:50:08
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:50:08
Jarrod Dyke
Couldn't remember if it was that one.
00:50:09
Grumpy Old Prop
No. Yeah, there's like the warehouse that's next door. i don't think that's even really actively a warehouse. I think that's just a building they put up.
00:50:14
Jarrod Dyke
No, it probably isn't.
00:50:16
Grumpy Old Prop
It's like a facade. Having been there many, many times now, there's no way to. There's no really a good way to watch a game from around the area.
00:50:25
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I can't remember which which field I was thinking of. Obviously, it was not that one. um Anyway, Dick the Week.
00:50:35
Grumpy Old Prop
um I mean, to me, i'm if I'm going to give it to anybody, I don't think there were too many real dicks. um So I'm going to go with Damien McKenzie for choosing his kicking boot over um getting his team tries.
00:50:46
Jarrod Dyke
yeah
00:50:50
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I mean, Blue's defense did stand him up a little bit, but there were also some boneheaded errors on the Chiefs part. Like, um loose head, fucking boring in on ah on the scrum that they called after a penalty.
00:50:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:51:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Wow.
00:51:04
Jarrod Dyke
I was like, oh. like it it was bad it was They showed the drone view, and I was like, that's painfully obvious. That's too easy. like You could do that with your eyes closed, man.
00:51:11
Grumpy Old Prop
he
00:51:13
Jarrod Dyke
Don't do that. so But yes, I i understand i understand your sentiment.
00:51:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Even the refs who don't know the Scrum are going to get that. Like, come on.
00:51:18
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, way too easy. I'm going to go with multiple dicks of the week, and that's the URC giving Piardi the final. Like, ew.
00:51:29
Jarrod Dyke
Ew.
00:51:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh.
00:51:30
Jarrod Dyke
Like, really? This is a guy you had to stand down because he made so many errors in one game. Like, ew. It's not like he's improved. He continues to just be bad.
00:51:41
Jarrod Dyke
So I don't get it. So refereeing continues to be a baffling thing for me in general.
00:51:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:51:51
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, well. All right. We're going to go do some rankings on the fantasy corner here. If you want to pop in over there.
00:51:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, no, we have to, we have, we have, we have one one more bit of business.
00:51:59
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, we need to pick them. Fucking hell. I'm an idiot.
00:52:02
Grumpy Old Prop
That's why there's two of us.
00:52:03
Jarrod Dyke
It's even written on there. God damn it.
00:52:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, it is.
00:52:05
Jarrod Dyke
What's wrong with me?
00:52:08
Jarrod Dyke
Don't answer that. God damn it.
00:52:12
Grumpy Old Prop
look the same shit that's wrong with me so
00:52:14
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Fair. Fair, fair, fair. Okay. Okay.
00:52:20
Jarrod Dyke
So, well, yeah. Easy one first. Prem final.
00:52:26
Grumpy Old Prop
bath I look like this is going to be a great match I think it has the potential to be a great match um
00:52:27
Jarrod Dyke
Bath.
00:52:31
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:52:33
Grumpy Old Prop
But I just think there's that, you know as we talked about, Bath have too many bullets to fire. And Leicester have, they're a solid group. They have every chance to win. This is, this if anything, it does remind me a lot of, if we're going back to it, the Patriots-Rams, when Brady first won the the so when the then the patriots won first one the Super Bowl.
00:52:51
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:52:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Very solid team from Leicester. No huge stars that are just going to take over that game. Whereas Bath have, like, all sorts of players who can just dominate. um They can pick like their third back row, and it's still filled with guys who are fucking amazing.
00:53:13
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:53:14
Jarrod Dyke
yeahp
00:53:16
Grumpy Old Prop
and And again, those those wings are are ridiculous. It's such that DeGlanville doesn't get any anywhere near the props he deserves. um and And yet, lester play if they play like a team, they could get it done.
00:53:29
Grumpy Old Prop
But I still say Bath are going to win.
00:53:31
Jarrod Dyke
yeah Yeah. Monster potential for this final. I hope it's lived up to.
00:53:36
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah i hope it's it yeah i really because i want I want to see a good rugby game and it could be amazing.
00:53:37
Jarrod Dyke
um
00:53:42
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:53:46
Jarrod Dyke
Premiership. or Not premiership. Super Rugby. Jesus Christ. What's wrong with me? Crusaders Blues.
00:53:55
Grumpy Old Prop
like yeah I'm going to have to go with Crusaders.
00:53:57
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:53:58
Grumpy Old Prop
i not i could This could go either way because Blues are are still not a bad team, but I think they're playing really well. Crusaders, so...
00:54:08
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. And then Chiefs Brumbies.
00:54:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Chiefs Australian team traveling to New Zealand.
00:54:11
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. No way they bottled this up twice with an Australia team on the travels.
00:54:14
Grumpy Old Prop
it's Yeah.
00:54:17
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:54:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:54:18
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, that's hard. That's right. I'll tell you this much. If they only bring the level they brought against the Hurricanes, considering the travel, it's going to be a long day.
00:54:29
Jarrod Dyke
It'll be a long day.
00:54:31
Grumpy Old Prop
It is. that's That's really where I am. The Brubbies played their best game. The Chiefs obviously did not. I think the Chiefs have... Same thing as as with that um the Prem final.
00:54:45
Grumpy Old Prop
um The Chiefs have have all the bullets to fire and the Brumbies are just like, again, the Brumbies are starting Andy Muirhead.
00:54:54
Jarrod Dyke
yeah right yeah about that enough said
00:54:58
Grumpy Old Prop
there i think enough said. And you've you're starting locks at eight. You're just flipping them back and forth as to which ones.
00:55:05
Jarrod Dyke
yeah
00:55:05
Grumpy Old Prop
And I'm not saying that, you know, The Chiefs are are great shakes in the back row, but um I'm assuming Wallace the TT is going to be playing and that automatically makes him the best back row player in the game.
00:55:14
Jarrod Dyke
So they have a CT, so that'll do.
00:55:20
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:55:20
Grumpy Old Prop
So in the match, you know, not the game overall.
00:55:21
Jarrod Dyke
Wild. All right.
00:55:25
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. All right. Now we're going to go do some ranking things. If you guys stop over there, we'll see you there.
00:55:29
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
00:55:31
Jarrod Dyke
If not, enjoy yourself the the postseason rugby, and we'll catch you guys next week. Thanks for tuning in. We appreciate you. Have a good one all.
00:55:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Later.
00:55:39
Jarrod Dyke
Cheers.