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Season 7- Weekly Fantasy Corner (Premiership Final & Super Rugby Semi-Final)
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It's SUPER crunch time in both Premiership and Super Rugby fantasy as we are down to even finer margins. We once again rank each position from the remaining players in each comp for both the Prem Final and Super Rugby's semis. Grab those notepads and enjoy friends!
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Introduction & Fantasy Corner
00:00:29
Jarrod Dyke
Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the Fantasy Rugby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke.
00:00:33
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm Van Glauser.
00:00:34
Jarrod Dyke
We're into fantasy corner stuff. We're going to talk about ranking for both competition and by positions and da-da-da. So here we go. Let's just dive right into We're going to right into the frame.
Player Selection Dilemmas
00:00:47
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, does it get harder than like Dutrois and Nikki Smith if they both start?
00:00:53
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, i don't know who, like... Yeah, no. And, okay, put it this way. Dutra... came off the bench and I think he still scored better than any other prop.
00:01:06
Jarrod Dyke
That sounds right.
00:01:06
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:01:06
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:01:08
Grumpy Old Prop
So a 10 and a half, which was I can't go.
00:01:11
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, you could justify two bath props if you want to because there's infinite team selection at this point.
00:01:11
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm not going to go. but
00:01:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:01:17
Jarrod Dyke
So you could justify both you know him and Stewart if you really want to. But if you want to find a balance, then it's probably him and Smith.
00:01:25
Grumpy Old Prop
Nick Smith. Yeah.
00:01:26
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. um
00:01:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Especially that gives you a perfect balance of tight head and loose head.
00:01:30
Jarrod Dyke
I mean...
00:01:32
Grumpy Old Prop
So.
Front Row & Locks Analysis
00:01:34
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, and there's, I don't think there's a competition between the two hookers. It's Montaja all the way.
00:01:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:01:43
Jarrod Dyke
Unless you want to really get cute and hope that Dunn falls over the line twice, but that's about all that's what you're hoping for.
00:01:48
Grumpy Old Prop
And he might, but I i don't know. They're not really that team anymore.
00:01:51
Jarrod Dyke
It's not worth it to me.
00:01:53
Grumpy Old Prop
So.
00:01:55
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, they don't need to be.
00:01:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:01:58
Jarrod Dyke
Do you go dope both Lester locks or are you going to risk or all not risk, but you're going to play a ah ah bath lock.
00:02:06
Grumpy Old Prop
It's just it's so hard because they do that six to and. The same thing with the the the flankers like.
00:02:14
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:02:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, it's great, you know, you get a half. And hopefully your guy does well in the half or after half or something like it's it's rough. So um I'd honestly probably go both.
00:02:24
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:02:28
Grumpy Old Prop
um
Back Row Dynamics
00:02:30
Jarrod Dyke
Chatham and Henderson. Yeah.
00:02:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Both Lester locks.
00:02:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:02:34
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. No argument out of me.
00:02:38
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, then the back row comes inch becomes interesting. um i mean, here's the thing. Van Graan has chopped and changed that back row a lot throughout the year.
00:02:49
Grumpy Old Prop
hey
00:02:50
Jarrod Dyke
The question is, is he going to do it again?
00:02:56
Jarrod Dyke
Doesn't need to with Pepper Hill and Barbary, but he may.
00:03:00
Grumpy Old Prop
And Barbary, but he may. It's Pepper, too. I mean, I guess it's a question of of of health, really. um But, like, Miles Reed was um immense off the bench.
00:03:14
Jarrod Dyke
Another the one that they could chuck in there as well.
00:03:16
Grumpy Old Prop
And Bayless always has that potential to be immense.
00:03:16
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:03:20
Grumpy Old Prop
And then, you know and yeah, an Underhill, he's hurt because he's always hurt.
00:03:20
Jarrod Dyke
but I love watching Josh Mayles play.
00:03:26
Jarrod Dyke
No, he's suspended.
00:03:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, he's suspended. Ah, never mind.
00:03:29
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, from the Challenge Cup hit that they did not get right.
00:03:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Gotcha. I missed i missed that. so
Center Player Strategy
00:03:35
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, there are not many um calls Holly Davidson got wrong. She got that one wrong, sadly.
00:03:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay.
00:03:42
Grumpy Old Prop
That's a shame.
00:03:43
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, so he's suspended. um
00:03:47
Jarrod Dyke
Lievenberg is probably the as probably the leader in the in the clubhouse, really.
00:03:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:03:51
Jarrod Dyke
um But then... Yeah, I'm inclined to go two Leicester back rows in ah and a Bath back row because the two of them are probably going to play most, if not all, the match.
00:03:55
Grumpy Old Prop
How did Crackdown do
00:03:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:04:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Exactly.
00:04:03
Jarrod Dyke
And then I'm just going to pick which one I feel like is going to get the most out of their 50, 60 minutes that they're going to play.
00:04:03
Grumpy Old Prop
it's It's a numbers game at that point.
00:04:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:04:12
Jarrod Dyke
So...
00:04:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Right, because it's it's not just about who's the better player.
00:04:14
Jarrod Dyke
Um...
00:04:16
Grumpy Old Prop
It's, you know... Ali crack don't 80 minutes of crack and all or, you know, 70 to 80 minutes potentially versus like 60 minutes of Alfie Barbary.
00:04:28
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
Back Three Considerations
00:04:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Or maybe less, maybe 50 minutes.
00:04:30
Jarrod Dyke
my Right, right.
00:04:33
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, I'd say that's what we're staring at for that one.
00:04:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:04:36
Jarrod Dyke
Half bucks are kind of no-brainer as much as I love Ben Spencer.
00:04:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:04:39
Jarrod Dyke
It's an important lead over Spencer.
00:04:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
00:04:41
Jarrod Dyke
And same with the fly. like you're not ah Pollard, great player. Finn Russell is still the best option here. There's no question about it. um And then you got the midfield.
00:04:56
Grumpy Old Prop
although I will say Ben Spencer the last time these two teams played and had 13 and a half points
00:04:57
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:05:05
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, we'll we'll see.
00:05:06
Grumpy Old Prop
so just just putting that out there and wait what did what did Van Porte Vliet get
00:05:06
Jarrod Dyke
Was Jonas playing that game?
00:05:11
Grumpy Old Prop
And this wasn't too long ago This was a couple rounds ago. um Six points. But again, home match for for Bath rather than you know at the ah at at the Twix.
00:05:18
Jarrod Dyke
ah Yes, that that that will help sometimes. so yeah Yeah, midfield. um mean, if Pabrize starts, I'm definitely going to pick him.
00:05:29
Jarrod Dyke
And then probably a Jomo. And that's my those are my two favorite ones right there.
00:05:31
Grumpy Old Prop
Ajomo. Yeah.
00:05:35
Jarrod Dyke
Freeza doesn't start, I'm more inclined to pick two bath guys than I am to lester or either of the lesser guys.
00:05:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Although if
00:05:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Yes.
00:05:45
Jarrod Dyke
Personally. Just me.
00:05:46
Grumpy Old Prop
So like Cam Redpath, I think would be still high up on that list. Because again, that's a, we're still a Solomon, a Kata one step away from, you know, like you're always, he's, he's like the new, um, shit.
00:05:51
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:06:00
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:06:03
Grumpy Old Prop
What's his, what was his name? Uh, uh, Lavanini. Like he's the new Lavanini is, is he could get a card at any time for any reason.
00:06:07
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, he's lot of cards waiting for him. Just like landmines out there.
00:06:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. So I'd almost go with two centers from um from Bath just to just in that case. Because you're not going to pick Kata because he might get a card at any moment.
00:06:24
Grumpy Old Prop
And then. You know, Parise hopefully starts. So then then, you yeah, maybe you choose him. But if he's not, then you got to go with two bath guys.
00:06:35
Jarrod Dyke
ah Back three gets interesting.
Super Rugby Insights
00:06:40
Jarrod Dyke
Definitely Muir. And for me, definitely Hustle Collins. And then it's like there's so many options that you could swing and miss on.
00:06:49
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, I don't know.
00:06:49
Jarrod Dyke
and
00:06:51
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm going to go Coco Nesiga over Muir, personally.
00:06:56
Jarrod Dyke
Muir scores 16 in the game right now.
00:06:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, there's that. Wait, hold on. So where... shoot I'm going to go back to the game. I want to figure out who who's at which position. um Because if it's... If Coco Nesiga is matched up against Adam Radwin...
00:07:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, no, either actually either way, whoever, yeah, whoever's at 11, like, and if it's, so if it's mirror, you know, the horse against, against mighty mouse, uh, we can go mirror.
00:07:22
Jarrod Dyke
yeah which i think is gonna be mirror
00:07:28
Jarrod Dyke
yeah yeah yeah and then yeah and then it's and so it's mirror and hustle collins and then probably really i think it's for me i think it's who you think is gonna win the match at that point and i know that's not over that's gonna get you a ton of points but like
00:07:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:07:29
Grumpy Old Prop
Fair enough.
00:07:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:45
Jarrod Dyke
if you really believe Bass going the match, then you have to also believe, one, you get the points set for winning the match, but also you have to believe that they're going to be involved in that win to a notable degree.
00:07:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:07:56
Jarrod Dyke
Maybe not a heavy degree, but a notable degree. So that's my thought on that.
00:08:02
Grumpy Old Prop
And that's the like, then it's, it's really. And so right now I have a OHC and coconut Sega. So the question is like, yeah, I'm going to pick up, I'll probably pick up mirror, um, with carpenter gone, but like, yeah, that kind of sucks.
00:08:10
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:08:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Um,
00:08:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Because Mir is actually more expensive. He's eight rather than seven. so i' have to figure out the monies around that.
00:08:27
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, good luck.
00:08:28
Grumpy Old Prop
But like, it's really the question of if if I wasn't in that position, if I had Mir instead of Kokonisiga, it would be a coin flip between Joe and Radwan because either one of them could just get over at any point.
00:08:44
Jarrod Dyke
Not wrong. Not wrong. All right. um
00:08:52
Jarrod Dyke
Let's go to Supers. um ah I mean, props are picking themselves right now. Grand Renata could be an option, but I am very inclined to just go Williams-Alatoa and forget it
00:09:07
Grumpy Old Prop
e Yep.
00:09:09
Jarrod Dyke
um i have the i have two of the top three hookers myself with tunky aho and pollard in terms to points per game so i see no reason to shoot shy away from that um you know no disrespect disrespect to cody taylor yeah oh sheesh yeah
00:09:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, and I have Takiyaho and Riccitelli, so yeah.
00:09:29
Jarrod Dyke
Well, I mean, you're going to probably get rid of one of those guys after this round. Just You said Hooper's playing number eight probably, right?
00:09:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Hopefully not both.
00:09:44
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't know. Tua Lima was playing it last week. Hooper was playing it the week before.
00:09:47
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, right.
00:09:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Who the fuck knows?
00:09:49
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, that's right. They've been cat foot flopping it. So um I'm still inclined to keep to keep him in in my team and just live with it.
00:09:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:09:55
Jarrod Dyke
um
00:09:56
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, I'm keeping both and living with it.
00:09:59
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. If you
Back Row & Halfback Picks
00:10:01
Jarrod Dyke
need a cheapish...
00:10:01
Grumpy Old Prop
It's funny because Hooper hooper at lock outscored Tua Lima at eight.
00:10:06
Jarrod Dyke
Jolima. That's wild. That's wild to me. um Yeah, if you need like another 2 million and you don't want to use it on a Brumbies player, you could go with like Barry from The Blues.
00:10:21
Jarrod Dyke
he's ah He's one of the...
00:10:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Or even Akoi,
00:10:22
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:10:27
Grumpy Old Prop
who's 2 million.
00:10:27
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:10:28
Grumpy Old Prop
And it's still at the top 10, 2, 4, 6, 8. eight He's 9th. He's just ahead of Shalfun, who is at 10.
00:10:36
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, that's possibility as well.
00:10:36
Grumpy Old Prop
So Akoi is the 10th. Oh, that's in point that's in points total. Let me go to points per game. Yeah, Akoi is a little lower than that.
00:10:43
Jarrod Dyke
He's not doing badly, like eight, but yeah, there's still couple guys ahead of him.
00:10:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. 8, yeah.
00:10:52
Jarrod Dyke
Back row gets wild.
00:10:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes.
00:10:58
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, if Satiti can fucking start, that would be, you know, preferred, number one.
00:11:03
Grumpy Old Prop
That'd be helpful. Yeah.
00:11:06
Jarrod Dyke
And then i'm i've I've had Leah Willie in my team for a little while now and I haven't regretted it. So keeping that guy.
00:11:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, me too. he's Well, he's the only one who I have that's still playing.
00:11:15
Jarrod Dyke
And then,
00:11:17
Grumpy Old Prop
so because I had McRae, Wilson, and and and Dewey.
00:11:18
Jarrod Dyke
oh geez.
00:11:21
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:11:21
Grumpy Old Prop
So I'm making changes there.
00:11:23
Jarrod Dyke
That'll do it. Yep, I believe it. um Yeah, I still am not so super inclined to go for the 8 million of Hoskins to Tutu. It's 16 last week, which isn't bad, but I just don't see it happening again.
00:11:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, it's still no.
00:11:38
Jarrod Dyke
It's a lot of your Kashish, too.
00:11:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:11:42
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. we're More inclined to pick a guy a little further down the lot ladder, like we talked about, Satiti. Yeah, you know maybe a...
00:11:54
Jarrod Dyke
This way she might be blaspheming, but maybe a Tom Christie, which is like, boo who am I? Who's this?
00:12:01
Grumpy Old Prop
where am I?
00:12:02
Jarrod Dyke
Right, what universe are we in? But he's been scoring.
00:12:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:12:05
Jarrod Dyke
i mean, beats the shit out of me.
00:12:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:12:07
Jarrod Dyke
How the hell is that happening? Probably because their scrum's just been kicking the shit out everyone.
00:12:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Or, I mean, even a Valentini, like he's going to get his points.
00:12:10
Jarrod Dyke
That's why.
00:12:13
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah his team's probably not going to, not probably not going to win, but he's scoring pretty well.
00:12:13
Jarrod Dyke
ah Bobby B.
00:12:19
Jarrod Dyke
Usually gets his gets his due, yeah.
00:12:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:12:22
Jarrod Dyke
Um. with both the top two pack halfbacks out it just falls to the next two guys that are scoring eight or more on average hotham and ratima probably because that will as the likeliest final i believe but not guaranteed obviously um
00:12:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:12:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
Fly Half & Midfield Recommendations
00:12:42
Jarrod Dyke
do you yeah i i'm looking at fly house like I think if you're going to be smart, you're just goingnna you're going to pick one of two, Barrett or McKenzie, and then you're going to pick, like, Rihanna, probably.
00:12:59
Jarrod Dyke
but's That's my thoughts on that. You know, Lulcio being at eight is kind of a turnoff for me. That's just a lot for maybe having a game game, maybe not.
00:13:10
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah well like yeah you're the i just wouldn't i don't yeah i'd go with one of dmack and barrett and reyhana as your backup um
00:13:22
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm. Right. Yep. That's the move.
00:13:27
Grumpy Old Prop
And then you're you're solid you're solid for probably the next round.
00:13:31
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:13:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Either way, you're solid because you know Barrett...
00:13:33
Jarrod Dyke
Somehow, someway.
00:13:34
Grumpy Old Prop
you know like if you have dma like So I have DMACC and Tom Lina, and I'd probably just end up... If I do anything with that, I would switch out Lina for Ray Hanna and it's 5-for-5, and I'm good.
00:13:44
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. Yep.
00:13:47
Grumpy Old Prop
i'm I'm fine with that. because if in a Then if the Chiefs lose, I can just slot in McKenzie and the Blues win, then I slot in Barrett for McKenzie.
00:13:48
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:13:55
Grumpy Old Prop
It's 1-for-1 there.
00:13:56
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. Yep.
Economical Back Three Options
00:14:00
Jarrod Dyke
Midfield, still like Iquita a lot. I'm inclined to go with Daniel Rona.
00:14:07
Jarrod Dyke
and And I don't just say that because he's the the next name on the list of that. He was probably the strongest candidate. I say that because he's his last three games have been 13.5 more.
00:14:18
Jarrod Dyke
you? There go. Nice.
00:14:21
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, I started him this week, so...
00:14:21
Jarrod Dyke
realized did you know you go nice
00:14:25
Jarrod Dyke
Um, yeah, Moana and Islanders were two of those, but you know, his, his line, the line on his try was beautiful.
00:14:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, yes, so I'm agreeing with you on that.
00:14:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:14:33
Jarrod Dyke
So that's one of those ones I wanted to copy and paste and send to the kids.
00:14:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, he's...
00:14:37
Jarrod Dyke
Be like, Hey, you see this?
00:14:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:14:40
Jarrod Dyke
Do that.
00:14:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Do that.
00:14:42
Jarrod Dyke
and Do that a lot more.
00:14:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:14:46
Jarrod Dyke
Uh, back three. Oh fuck. This will be interesting. Cause there's a lot of options that are really expensive back there.
00:14:54
Jarrod Dyke
Um, Yeah, Reese is 7, and freaking Jordan is 8. You know, Leroy Carter, I think he's on, like, everyone's team because he's 3.
00:14:54
Grumpy Old Prop
really are not a lot of cheap options.
00:15:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:15:05
Jarrod Dyke
um Wright, 8.
00:15:07
Grumpy Old Prop
And as those are my, yeah, those are my three right there. Carter, Reese and Wright are my three that I have right now.
00:15:10
Jarrod Dyke
Oof.
00:15:13
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:15:15
Grumpy Old Prop
So I, yeah,
00:15:16
Jarrod Dyke
And they're, you know.
00:15:19
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, and Tool's not even much better. He's 7. Yeesh.
00:15:22
Grumpy Old Prop
right.
00:15:24
Jarrod Dyke
John Stevenson, 7. Yuck.
00:15:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Talaya is nine.
00:15:28
Jarrod Dyke
Wow.
00:15:28
Jarrod Dyke
wow
00:15:29
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, it's just not not worth it.
00:15:32
Jarrod Dyke
Wow.
00:15:32
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:15:32
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, Talia's a lot, and he's not done much.
00:15:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:15:36
Jarrod Dyke
Lamb's five if you wanted to get cute, but yeah he didn't score well last week.
00:15:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Where's Clark? There he is.
00:15:41
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah and Clark is also nine and and it's just not worth it.
00:15:42
Jarrod Dyke
Sheesh.
00:15:45
Grumpy Old Prop
So yeah.
00:15:47
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, not the way they're playing just not the style they're currently playing right now. It doesn't do you a ton of good to have either of those guys right now, and that's a lot of Kashish for no points.
00:15:52
Grumpy Old Prop
No. Nope.
00:15:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes.
00:15:58
Jarrod Dyke
So, yeah, there's that. Stay away from Fiyaki. Don't be fooled, guys. He's shit.
00:16:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, i guys.
00:16:05
Jarrod Dyke
I think he's a cheap either. Okay, he's cheap. He's fairly cheap. He's five. Not everyone's going to be Leroy Carter at three.
00:16:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay.
00:16:14
Jarrod Dyke
I get it.
00:16:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:16:17
Jarrod Dyke
so.
Conclusion & Listener Engagement
00:16:18
Jarrod Dyke
yes so We've solved all your fantasy troubles, folks. You're welcome.
00:16:23
Grumpy Old Prop
All of them.
00:16:26
Jarrod Dyke
In any case, yeah, that'll be that'll be it for us. We will post the same stuff that we posted last week, this coming weekend. um But yeah, feel free to shoot us a question as well. But we appreciate you guys hanging out with us and listening to us talk about the pretend sport of rugby.
00:16:41
Jarrod Dyke
And we'll talk to you guys next week and have a good one. Enjoy the rugby this weekend.
00:16:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Later.
00:16:46
Jarrod Dyke
Cheers.