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Nonsense and Chill - Lights, Camera, Discussion: Western Movie Edition
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Join Michael and Josh while they discuss their favorite western movies and a general discussion about the genre as well.
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Introduction and Setting the Tone
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after
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And welcome is another Friday. Michael, how are you doing, buddy? I'm great, man. And let me tell you something, mister. I don't have to do anything at the show. I'm on my time. I'm on my time, mister. How's your day, man? And welcome. we And freaking awesome, dude. I rumored I had magic mushrooms this week.
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yeah I kept forgetting I had some. You ever do that? by You buy drugs and you forget you have them? Only users lose drugs.
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Fair enough. Fair enough.
Evolution of Western Movies
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gearing up to start to oh no they're not gearing up they've started their shows eight o'clock rock al harless and the gang i'm gonna go there after the show and checking them out so yeah um pretty excited tarango i see you in the chat i am sorry by your shirt my goddam air conditioning went out on what monday yeah monday and we didn't get it put into today so pretty much i've been sweating the balls off my beards on fire while i'm sleeping it's crazy it's hot as shit here but you see who's in so make sure to get your shirt in the mail tomorrow morning i'm sorry it's coming i'm not breathing heavy but the shirt's coming no i'm okay at best but thank you and that's my spiel what are we doing in tonight blaze well wow um we are gonna keep we are going we we're we're keeping tonight short um shorter than usual
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But we're going to be talking Western movies. And I want to ask you, when western movie when the when the genre of Western movies comes up, what do you think? what kind What comes to mind?
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First, Clint Eastwood. Gunslingers. Gunslingers. I don't think Spaghetti Westerns. I'm to tell you something you might be surprised to hear.
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I have not seen any of Clint Eastwood's Good, Bad, and Ugly, Lone Pale Rider, whatever. None of them. None of them. But I know he's attached to that.
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Yeah. but ah no I'll save that movie. No. i I was going to say I i think of Spaghetti Westerns, Clint Eastwood, John Wayne. That's who Brittany brought up earlier.
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Because that's the Westerns my dad watched as I grew up, and I remember seeing them. I never really got into them. I didn't really care for the Western genre.
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Until I realized that the Western gen genre isn't just cowboys and six shooters. and You thought of it in the traditional sense only.
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Exactly. ya Yeah, yeah. My naivety when it comes to movies at a young age was very strong.
Impact of 'Unforgiven' on the Western Genre
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so There's one good thing.
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At least Bram Stroker didn't write any westerns. We don't have to hear you say that again.
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Sorry. I love you, buddy. That's right. Wednesday. For for all y'all who tuned in on Wednesday, thank you for surviving that video. And if you didn't, go back and watch. It's gold.
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It's gold. yeah It was a great show. For real, it was a great show. it was It was. You were a little um words or heart. Well, like I said, i had been hiking that day, and I had already streamed for about an hour in the woods.
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And I had already told the audience i wouldn't ah and I wasn't going to stream that night because I was going take a break. Mm-hmm. You were busy that night. Glick couldn't make it that night.
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And I didn't want to leave Brittany hanging by herself. And i had, before i came up, I had already, like, gone hiking, been in the pool, had like a six-pack of Modellas.
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i was ah I was not ready to come up. But I did it anyway. That's why you guys got to hear me say Bram Stroker. said Bram Stoker. So anyway. Phone call. You gave me a phone call from pool that day.
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And you were like, wait, you're not going to be there? Oh, no. Oh, no.
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So what's one of you what's some of your favorite ah Westerns? Or what's one of your one your first, your third most favorite, I guess? Third most? I'm a fucker.
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Yeah. what that This was the one time I could say this without unequivocal thought. It's definitely my number one choice. I can almost never do that.
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So I'm gonna start with one. I'm going against the grain. I'm Brittany, you're actually playing by my rules. Number one, all time. Best Western, in my opinion. Unforgiven.
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Fantastic film. Fantastic. that's ah That's a Clint Eastwood one, correct? Yes. He swept the Oscars that year. Clint did with best actor, best director, best screenplay.
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I'm sorry, best motion picture. Now, you're going to refresh my memory with specifically that movie was about the plot because I don't think I've ever seen it. I'm not a huge Clint Eastwood guy.
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I'm not saying he's horrible actor. There's been some things in that he's been in. I like that one where he plays the old guy neighbor. That's Gran Torino. Great.
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Gran Torino. Fucking love that movie. Great movie. Great, yeah. Me too. but but But that's not a Western. However... um So I haven't seen Unforgiven. What's that one about?
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All right. Clint Eastwood plays Will Money. He was known to be the cold-blooded, murdering son of a bitch. Nobody liked him. he He hated everybody, and they knew it.
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They hated him for it. He was mean as a snake. Met this lady, and she cured him of all that, as he saw it. Cured me of the drinking and the fighting. Married him, had kids, went the middle of nowhere, started little homestead, and everybody forgot Will Money, and he just slipped through the cracks, made through his glory days of outlawry.
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Yeah. He gets drawn back in. His wife dies. And his kids are there. It's him. They're having a hard time on the farm. His pigs are all dying off.
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The pig's got the fever, Paul. You know what I'm saying? They're in dire straits. Right about that time in Big Sky, Wyoming, a prostitute gets cut up by a drunked up ah ranch hand.
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So these other prostitutes gang together, pool their money together, put the word out, put a hit on that son of a bitch and cut them up. And that's where Will Money comes in.
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He's having a hard time. He's desperate. This kid rolls in. He's the nephew of one of his old partners. Says, hey, they said, if you're looking for no good, cold, hardened son a bitch, you're the best. Meaning, or you're the worst. Meaning, the best.
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And yeah, at first, I'm going to in-depth. Long story short, fantastic fucking movie. That's the opening. ah He goes to his old partner, played by... um
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Morgan Freeman. And the three of them travel across to Wyoming. The great, the late great Gene Hackman plays Little Bill, the sheriff.
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ah He knows him from back in the day. ah ah Shoot. Mulher. Edward Mulher, who was Knight Rider's like boss. Remember Knight Rider's boss, Edward Mulher?
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He plays English Bob. Great cast. Great scenery. was this was this fucking for is this movie Was this movie ever redone? No.
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No. Okay, so I think I might have seen it because the premise sounds pretty fucking familiar. familiar It's probably been out for a while, so I might have seen it. Oh, yeah, it's out for a long time.
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Billy Bob Brady plays a very small role. Mixed out with Tombstone, my bad. yeah i'm glad ah I'm glad you brought that up because that's like... yeah that's that That's what the fits the more specific definition the Western. It's a traditional Western.
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Traditional. they just look yeah 19th century ah ah Wild West, outlaws, laws, gunfights, morality issues, crap like that. Because, you know, Wild West.
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However, as we've moved on and progressed, as a as as time has progressed, the word Western has kind of like blurred the lines of it.
Motorcycle Culture and Western Themes
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Sure. Now, since you, now, even though I did ask for number three, gonna give you my number one.
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This is, this is, this is a Western, but it intersects with one of my favorite things, pastimes. And I don't do much anymore because reasons, motorcycles, a hell ride.
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This movie was, oh shoot. It's a Tarantino S movie. He's one of the executive producers. Yeah. For the life of me, I forgot the name of the gentleman who – he plays in it as Pistorello, as the president of the Victors.
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He plays in it – You got Dennis Hopper in there. You got Michael Madsen. Dennis Hopper's in it. David Carradine's in it. But basically what it is, aye Comanche or Bix, he, as a kid, like 32 years prior to the like main setting of the movie,
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his mother gets her neck cut and set on fire by the rival motorcycle game, the Sixers. Yeah. So anyway, 32 years later, Comanche or Bix, he's an adult now and he's looking for revenge. So he he ends up joining the victors.
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And it turns out that Pistarello is actually his father. You don't know that to the very, very end. But... it it's it's a it's a It's a movie about revenge. old way Not Old West, but in the in the and like the New Mexico area and shit like that. yeah your your law and order You got your outlaws, your biker gangs.
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That one big English guy that plays the bad guy in a lot of fucking movies. He was in Hooligans. You know who I'm talking about? Vinnie Jones? i Yeah, I think he played Punisher once, I think. No, it wasn't him that played Punisher. No, Ray Stevenson played Punisher.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. He played Bullethead. It was an X-Men, right? Yeah. I'm a juggernaut, bitch. Yeah, that's the guy. He plays in it.
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He plays in it it as as as as the president of the 666ers. And he has this part in the movie where he has all these different tattoos, wings. He's got red wings for when he's licked a bloody vajayjay.
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And he's got a he's got wings for or this kind of vajayjay, whatever. And he's in the last one, is in what he's doing that in this scene, he's messing with this but this one chick.
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And he's like, you know what these purple wings are? That's for blah, blah, blah, eating a dead, you know, for va JJ. Anyway, it turns out that that one that he ate was Vix's dead mom. It was, the whole entire story is crazy.
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Sounds like it. Dude, it is, it is, it is a wild, it's called Hell Ride. It's a, it's a, it's a modern Western, motorcycle gangs. It's just bad fucking ass.
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It's a great, it's, You got a peyote scene in there. It's, I mean, oh man, sex, fucking motorcycles, blood, guts. I mean, drugs.
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It's, it's. All the, all the, all the things that growing boy needs.
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It just, it oozes toxic masculinity. It's put up like that.
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But it's such a great movie. Such an awesome movie.
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And that's interesting when it comes to... And this is why I've changed my impression on Western movies as I've gotten older. Because i don't I still don't like those spaghetti Westerns.
Western Elements in 'The Mandalorian'
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Me either.
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I'm not big on the John Waynes. I'm not big on the old Clint Eastwood ones. There's a couple good good ones, but I like... What's another good Western you like? um I can't really go um two, three, four from here.
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But there are movies I really enjoyed watching. You all are slacking. Slacking on what? Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
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Brittany's getting the first block. You're getting your wrench taken away. I'm joking. Anyway, go ahead. I know we're movies.
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But again, I'm flipping that script. For my second entry, I'm going to go with a series. But it's based off films. Fair enough. Fair enough, fair enough.
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It's called ah The Mandalorian.
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Oh my god, of course you would go Star Wars. And it's in the Star Wars universe. But you're not wrong, i watched I've watched some of it. It would fit a western, yeah.
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In the very first episode, like they do the spurs, and i the double doors, the classic swoon double doors. I mean, it's... Jon Favreau's, some of his best work, if not his best work, is in The Mandalorian.
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Fair enough. And there's no reason to describe it. It's a phenomenon. Everyone knows what The Mandalorian is. If you don't, get out from under that rock and fucking go there. Check it out.
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Oh, and back to Unforgiven. but If you haven't seen it, do yourself a favor. What the fuck is that? No, that's G's. Oh, hey, G's. What's up, my dude?
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I keep trying to press on his thing, but he keeps moving. um What's up, Gs? the The ending monologue that Clint Eastwood delivers in the Unforgiven is my personal favorite monologue of all time.
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All time. It's better than that. You can't handle the truth. I mean, that's a great monologue. This monologue is above all of the monologues. Google it. that YouTube it. You can see just that clip. If you don't want to watch a Western, it's worth it.
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And it's fucking phenomenal. That's a good example. But a sci-fi Western. I was going to say, that's a good intersection of sci-fi Western. like Cowboys and Aliens would be another one.
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yep so That Wild Wild West with Will Smith would be considered a sci-fi Western. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. Oh, yeah.
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But I love The Mandalorian, and it totally fits the the Western formula. Outstanding, great show. Check it out. Even if you don't like Star Wars, it's fucking amazing.
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Since we're on the topic of series and Westerns, I'm only going to say one series just to match yours. and And we were actually talking about this the other day offline and how when I first watched the show, i was kind of digging it.
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And as time went by, I kind of lost interest in it, but Sons of Anarchy yeah westster is
Modern Westerns: 'Sons of Anarchy'
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a Western. It's a modern Western show. It has all those elements. It's out in ah um the fucking West. It's a law and order, outlaws, and the law and morality and and all that crap. it's ah But
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it wasn't that great. No. It's short enough potential, right? It did. Like, the first couple seasons were okay. Okay, I know you didn't like the second season, but again... No, I didn't hate the second season.
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I stopped watching two episodes, maybe three in the third season. I think it was the second episode. I don't want to go too, too much down Sons of Anarchy, because that's a long series.
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yeah It's been a while since I've seen it. Yeah, there's a lot to think. But I will give... I'll give i'll give the show this. The cast was a great cast. Like, it...
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It had it had some some some good names attached to it, Ron Perlman being one. The lady who plays Peggy Bundy, I'm sorry, I can't remember your name at this moment. That's from Kathy Segal. Katie Segal.
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Katie Segal, yes, yes. I like her as an actress. i i I didn't like her character in the in the show, but could get it. But anyway, anyway, so.
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It started out with so much potential, man. i i I wanted to see Jax, you know, make that... It was such a hero's journey. It was going to be hero's journey.
00:18:05
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It was to be redemption arc for the guy, and they just screwed his character up. And then they ended up just killing him off. See, I didn't know that. I don't even care.
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From I see, I didn't even watch the last episode, but from what understand, he kind of just, like, Road right into a semi-truck.
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How are going to have a good su I can't take it anymore. Spoiler! and The series has been done for years.
00:18:40
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yeah oh yeah there's Go fuck yourself. Besides, you smoke so much pot you're going to forget by the end of the show anyway.
00:18:49
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So I've told um been told allegedly.
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allegedly. Tarantula, answer this. You watched the whole thing. did you Were you satisfied with it? Did you like it? I think she had made a reference up here saying she enjoyed it.
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Allegedly. so that yeah yeah She's a s SOA fan. That makes one of us it's um that that Even to this day, that show still has has quite the following.
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People that never, ever, ever experience anything in the club life. That's why. ms ems do MCs operate in a certain way. Not all, but by and large.
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that yeah em That particular MC is a fantasy. Yes, that particular one is, but that show spawned a lot of poser clubs too. That's why I'm screaming, because of what they were doing.
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That was not an MC. Some people got hurt too. ah You don't wear a cut. You don't wear an unsanctioned cut to a sanctioned event.
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I'm just saying. I'm just saying. That seems oddly specific. Allegedly, allegedly knuckles get thrown. You're welcome
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welcome. So we so we touched on, so we touched on, ah A good example of a sci-fi western with Mandalorian, even though I think fucking TV shows.
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Gross. I can't say that, dude. I'm going to go on a tangent real quick. Do it. I have been digging the new Dexter Resurrection.
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have like I it out. I like the premise of of of what they're doing with the show. I like the character lineup. I like some of the actors in it. But I'm not going to go i'm not going to spoil it. You guys go watch it. This isn't about Dexter tonight.
00:21:16
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So, can you think of any other? Oh, you know what? think it's my turn. What's another? Okay, I know. Somebody you brought up comedy westerns.
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Two off the top my head. One i actually had on my list. um Three Amigos. yeah Classic fucking... Comedy Western with Chevy Chase, Steve Martin, and why is his name escaping me at the moment?
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Oh, Martin Short. Thank you, Martin Short. If you haven't watched The Three Amigos, quick synopsis, and please, please, if I'm wrong, somebody me please correct me.
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I will. three Three comedy actors that play the three amigos apparently got mixed up in a real-world Mexican town that needed their help.
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And so they used movie plots to fight the bad guys within them. was weird. But it was funny. Hold on. I'm going to help you out here. In the beginning of the movie, right, sort they're showing these Nickelodeons.
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You put it in watch the things, the silent films too. So all these Mexicans in this town think they're real heroes because they understand it's fake. That's right. Yeah. That's right. You telegram from the town. Hey, come and help us. Ooh, we're getting a gig.
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It is a great movie. It is. It is a very, it's a classic comedy and another comedy Western I wanted to bring up. And I didn't think about it until and Brittany had asked the question. Um,
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Yeah, I couldn't get into Yellowstone either. i think I heard Kevin Costner was in it, so I definitely didn't even try to. um Blazing Saddles.
Comedy Westerns and Their Impact
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ye plastic Yep. Classic. Classic. A classic. those ah those are two Those are also two good Westerns right there, too.
00:23:16
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Yeah, Shanghai, dude. Really? Mm-hmm. That was sad. ah but That was not... It was still a Western, though. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the fact that it's one of her faves...
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It had Jackie Chan. oh yes I will... I will... You know, it... Oh, sorry. yep Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's another that's another one that was on the list I was going through Westerns. I was trying to jog my memory on on the different genres.
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so but The comedy ones, Blazing Saddles, a good one. City Slickers, that's another good comedy one. Yeah, for sure. i didn't I didn't like the sequel, though. I'm not a fan of the sequel.
00:23:59
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Curly's Gold. Yeah, the sequel could have. Balance is fucking fire. I love Jack Balance. what He's got a cadence like Milwaukee. It's unforgettable.
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Yeah, he does. He does. Now I'm trying to think of some other comedy westerns.
00:24:18
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about Back to the Future 2.
00:24:22
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That is the sci-fi western. Three. I know which one you were talking about where they go back to the ah train and all that shit. That would that is considered a western. yeah That was on the list.
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yeah but That's more... I will i guess he that would be comedy and sci-fi.
00:24:41
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I was just shocked. okay I'm going to give one more movie that I think is it's one of my favorite movies. I didn't realize. Hold up. That was cool.
00:24:52
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Look at that. Treyerson got to meet Jack Palance.
00:24:57
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Oh, dope. She said it's really nice in real life. That's cool, man. Awesome. it's Good to know. I'm sorry. Hell yeah. No, no, no. That's that's worth sharing. Hell yeah. Thank you.
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He went to the same cardiologist. Hmm.
00:25:15
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Is Brother Where Art Del considered a kind of Western?
00:25:20
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I don't think so. well
00:25:24
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No. yeah it's yeah he's That was more in the Southeast. It doesn't matter if it's in the Western. No, she take technically.
00:25:38
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But that was more of a... I wouldn't call it a Western.
00:25:45
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it was a but
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it's It was sort of a hero's journey, kind of. ah Yeah. but um it wasn't really yeah It doesn't follow the Western formula. Yeah.
00:25:59
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it is It is different. It's still good movie, though. It's a great movie. haven't seen it a while. A long time. That's the South. That's what said.
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<unk> what i said
00:26:16
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Well, you know what? The Mandalorian's not in the West either. He's in a galaxy far, far away a long, long time ago. True, true. But the aesthetics of it.
00:26:29
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The Fallout show. Oh, my God. I'm glad you mentioned that. Bring me some more Goggins. I love him in that. I love everybody in that. It's a great experience.
00:26:39
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Michael, the other day, he's like, man, I am gay for Goggins. I am. I have been since justified. am so gay for Goggins. um There's sort of wild card out there.
00:26:52
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Technically, aliens. Yeah, I would put Breaking Bad as a Western.
00:26:59
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At least, maybe not every single episode, every single season. But they had they had different directors rotate a few times. And I would call some of those episodes Western aesthetics.
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Definitely. When you think of Western stuff, you think of deserts. Not everybody. Not me. No, not me. Oh, yeah. That was talking about Brittany's comment. Oh, okay.
00:27:23
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I do not. But apparently you do. I don't know. I do. Yeah, I think there's some association with desert there. I mean, it's not the desert per se. But the Western, mean, if you've ever if you've ever lived in the in in like the the the Western, like is it south the Southwest, like so Arizona, fucking New Mexico. The tan states.
00:27:48
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The tan states. There's an aesthetic that's not that' not that doesn't share with the left Scrub trees, no decisuous stuff. um Yeah, yeah, yeah. So.
00:27:59
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I'm going to walk the audience real quick. We should have done this in the beginning. What makes Western a Western, according to the internet, a film genre typically set in the American West, often during the late 19th century, featuring themes of frontier life, cowboys, outlaws, and the clash between law and lawlessness.
00:28:22
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So again, it doesn't have to be actually set in the West. but the formula can still be there. For instance, another one of my all-time favorites.
00:28:33
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The Mandalorian. Other than that, Serenity.
00:28:40
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Dude, that was an awesome series, too. i Firefly. I cannot believe that got canceled. That's where i fell love with Nazifelian. He was so great that.
00:28:51
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And man, Adam ah Baldwin, oh my God, he was such a great character. And I can't think of her name, ah Deadpool's wife. Goldrush, sure, sure.
00:29:04
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So, um one of my favorite Westerns, one of my favorite Westerns, modern Westerns is No Country for Old Men. Oh, great movie.
00:29:15
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Great movie. Right, so it's not the setting, exactly. Lawless, amazing movie. what What was that? I don't remember that one. It's tarantula there.
00:29:28
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Django, that's another good western. Django, yep, yep, yep. That was... Quentin Tarantino directed that one, right? Yeah, that's definitely a Quentin Tarantino movie, absolutely, 100%.
00:29:42
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but now there here Now, here's... ah For old men, wasn't that... Roland at some of his best, Josh Roland. Yes. He went from Brant in the Goonies to kind of disappearing for a long time and then just became this titan of an actor.
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he His best roles are the roles where he doesn't talk a lot. I don't mean that against any... But no, no.
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It's his his body language says it all. His facial expressions, his gestures, like... He doesn't need all these words as well. yeah w W. He played W in W. yeah George W. Oh. garrbia i haven't I haven't seen that. I haven't Now that you're saying that, I can totally feel where you're coming from. He was Bush.
00:30:32
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Mannerisms. Facial expression. Cluelessess. Yeah. yeah He does. He has, dude, he just drips that riz. He does. Yeah, good point. Good points.
00:30:44
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great movie for sure. But Serenity, man, so fantastic. Here's a movie. It's a sequel. the The first one wasn't a Western, but the sequel is.
00:30:56
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And it's a horror movie, though. Devil's Rejects is a Western. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The second one's where it flips the script, right? The second one is Devil's Rejects. The first one is House a thousand of Thousand Corpses. Devil's Rejects.
00:31:11
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In the first one, they're the monsters. In the second one, they're running for their lives. Correct. Yes, I love that clip. Oh, man, it was great movie. Yes, yes, yes. But yeah, yeah, there's not that would follow the Western formula.
00:31:26
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Rob Zombley. Rob Zombley makes great fucking films. Zombley. Have you seen his Super Elvasto? Yeah, you said Rob Zombley.
00:31:38
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ah There's my Just like I say. was just going to make that same joke. What were you going say? I don't remember. ah Another movie that follows is... You talking about Devil's Rejects.
00:31:55
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Oh, I asked if you had if you saw his anime is animation, Super Elbasto. Super Elbasto. Super Elbasto, if I'm pronouncing it right.
00:32:07
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No idea. It's on Netflix. This is one of his older animated... Was it a whole movie or a miniseries? I can't remember. It's been a while since I've seen it.
00:32:17
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And that's by Zombie. Yep. I've never heard it. He's done a lot of things. You know, I know this is off topic, but it's still movies. But it's us. i i appreciate I appreciate his take on ah Michael Myers.
00:32:34
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I know people gave that second one a lot of shit, but You know, he made it his and it was good. liked it. I did. you want to see a shot for shot remake, what's the point in doing it?
00:32:46
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Just fancy up the old one. Just do what George Lucas did and cock up cock up the original trilogy. Add some CGI to it. Fuck it. um
00:32:58
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How about The Revenant? So that did pop up on the list. um I haven't seen that or I don't remember seeing.
00:33:09
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Traditional Western based on a true story.
'The Revenant' as a Survival Western
00:33:14
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The basic story is real, but a lot of the shit that they show in the movie was not. But Homeboy is a fur trapper.
00:33:24
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He's working with some guys and he gets mauled by a bear. And in classic Western fashion, they left him for dead, took all his shit and walked away.
00:33:35
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This son of a bitch survived and came back and shot that son of a bitch that left him. Damn. Yeah, mauled by a bear, dude. A grizzly. I mean, we're talking, what was this, Northwest Territory kind of like, dubra would have been modern day Montana maybe.
00:33:52
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I mean, they were, dude, big honking bear. And ah like I said, based on a true story, that actually happened. The fact that he got left for dead after mauled by a bear. They took his guns and took his rations and could everything from him but he was a survivor he's used to being out in the frontier all the time that son of a bitch had like maggots and shit he was shoving maggots into his wounds to clean the bacteria out that's real and uh yeah he just through sheer will of fuck you he survived found that son of a bitch that left him and killed him damn yeah the revenant true story left for dead came back for the dead and got his revenge
00:34:33
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I kind of want to watch that now. That sounds good. oh It's a good movie. I watched DiCaprio, dude. I like me some DiCaprio. Who did you see live in Kentucky? ah DiCaprio's a good actor. oh he If he's in it, I'm definitely going to watch it.
00:34:47
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I know it's off topic, but I cannot believe how good he was in... Oh, shit. Not Benny and June. The big fat mother lady. up His first role... Shit.
00:34:59
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Help me out, audience. His first role when he was a kid? Yeah. I think one of his first. Maybe not his first, but one of his first. ah Are we talking before Titanic?
00:35:12
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Oh, way before, dude. like So I wanted to bring... out shoot. That's not the one wanted to bring. I'll find it. I wanted to bring this one up. True Grit. I like this one. I like the Jeff Bridges version because I like Jeff Bridges more than... i think John Wayne was in the original one, yeah which is why I won't watch the original one.
00:35:29
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But Jeff Bridges, I love Jeff Bridges. And so I love, like, True Grit is a great movie. Oh, another Leo movie. That is another Western, Quick and the Dead. That's a good one.
00:35:42
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Okay, I'm going to throw this one out here because nobody said it. I know we weren't going purposely put it on our list, but we can't just, like, name three movies and leave it at that because it's too much, not enough time.
00:35:53
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ah Tombstone. Great movie. Val Kilmer. Tombstone. Rocked. Yes, Tombstone. And the girl does such a great job.
00:36:04
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Yes.
00:36:07
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God, I want to watch True Gritty. What am I looking up? already forgot. I have no idea. What's he doing Gilbert Grape? Oh. plays a severely artistic kid.
00:36:19
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And I'm telling you what, I'm not even playing. I thought he was with really a severely artistic kid. Oh, just in time, Tarantula. Where were we on that one, dipshit?
00:36:31
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He's a good actor. So phenomenal.
00:36:41
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What else you got? I don't know, man. i don't money i don't I don't want to keep you too, too long. I know you have... Oh, sorry about that. I'm just trying to think. okay Oh, we talked about this one.
00:36:53
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It's not a series, but it's a Western theme. Once you were talking about it, remembered. Holy shit. i was holy question i watch I was watching... I was starting to watch that. I watched about half of that last night. I got to the to the peyote part.
00:37:08
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Do you see the size that chick? Do you see the size of goddamn chick? Or whatever the fuck he said, dude. Anyway. derman ah Is it Dermot Morini?
00:37:21
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Dermot Morini's one of the ones, right? He's the one, he's all just talking to himself. He's like, I'm not crazy. You're crazy. Just all weird. Yeah, yes.
00:37:32
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The sound. Casey Smesko. the the audio The audio editing for that part where they like turn it into an echo or reverb it or whatever, dude, is amazing. I totally forgot they'd done that.
00:37:47
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And I was watching it last night. Wow. And it hit that part. I'm like i like, oh, fuck yes. This makes so much better sense now.
00:38:01
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Ask the ex about him with the fat bitch and he said the title. Wait, what? Oh. acid Yeah. What's he think of a great?
00:38:13
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She's talking about that one. Oh, I don't, I, you know, I don't know if I've seen that. If you haven't, man, watch that shit. It's a phenomenal, phenomenal movie. All right, Terrence, help us out.
00:38:25
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Who plays his brother? um Oh, Johnny Depp, dude, plays his older brother. It's, man, I'm telling you right now, it's a phenomenal movie. Phenomenal movie.
00:38:37
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phenomenal movie. I cannot do top 10 all-time movie. I don't know. This this one, God dang it, keeps moving on.
00:38:48
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We got traction. We got a lot of fucking... I'm sorry. this I want to go back to Young Guns. Yeah, yeah. Do that. Young Guns, of course, it's it was a it's a vehicle for both the Emilio brothers, Charlie Sheen, Tiger's Blood, and Emilio Estevez.
00:39:06
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Winning. Anyway, I guess he's 70 years sober now. There was an article and I saw him and his dad doing good. So anyway. That movie was probably one of the first Westerns i remember watching as a young adult that i enjoyed watching as a Western.
00:39:30
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yeah If that makes sense.
00:39:34
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Oh, I love it. Wait, Tombstone, yeah? no Young Guns. Young Guns, yeah, love that movie. What did you think of the second one? That's what I wanted to say.
00:39:47
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I don't remember much of it. Okay, in the beginning, he goes down to Blades of Glory, right? it In the first movie, in the first movie. At the end. Have a second one.
00:40:00
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a They're not sure if it was if he it was it was one of those iffy endings. No, it wasn't. How the hell did get away from that? I don't know. The army was there with the first rotating... but but but but but but but but but like i that Maybe it's the Camp Crystal Lake curse.
00:40:18
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We'll talk about that another night, though. that That new short film that came out. Oh, yeah. yeah I was by the portion, but it didn't take.
00:40:35
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Oh, man. What's that? What's your what's Just Some Dude's pronouns, as, and been? i or Or never was.
00:40:47
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I think it was never was. Never and was. So, one we were talking about yesterday. The series The Walking Dead follows the Western formula.
Is 'The Walking Dead' a Western?
00:41:00
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It does. Yes. Zombie Western, dude. Zombie Western. Yes. um I would put The Walking Dead in that category as a Western. I wouldn't put all zombie movies. No, no. That particular one, yeah. The Walking Dead. That particular one, yeah. I would.
00:41:14
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yeah A ah western the of ah Western by traditional um definition. i would I would say so. It's lawlessness, morality. It's got that Western aesthetic to it. Settlers.
00:41:28
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Yep. Settlers. Indians. That's the zombies. I'm sorry. That's the zombies. Really? Well, I mean... um'm not saying... Okay. before I know made metaphorical. I am not saying Native Americans are zombies.
00:41:47
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At all.
00:41:50
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I apologize for my ah so offensive words touch you on the doll. You know what's weird? is If you read the graphic novel, it actually started off in Kentucky. ah The Walking Dead.
00:42:01
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Yes. and no I never ah never read it Now that serious, I'm going to watch it to the end. It was a war of attrition for me. The read is better than the watch. It always is.
00:42:12
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When you read something, you create that movie from those words. And my movies are always better.
00:42:22
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Made for Late, Made for the 7, Ridiculous 6. They're not technically Westerns. They are Westerns.
00:42:31
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I have a movie that I think could be considered it a Western. There's a stretch to it. Which one? The Big Lebowski.
00:42:43
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Oh. Huh. Hmm. Hmm. Okay, that's... I'm stretching. I might i might be reaching there.
00:42:55
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It's... It could be argued. I would argue it's The Hero's Journey.
00:43:03
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Maybe not even the hero's journey. has no little weird guy. No, he does. His little weird guy is
00:43:12
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Soapjack. Trying to tease your try to be his master or whatever. Yeah. He doesn't take his advice because he's not an idiot. she I don't know. Just a thought on that Yeah, man, I love that movie, though. Because it's kind of like, when it starts off, it has that Western feel. It is a Western feel. It really does. California's in the West.
00:43:38
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Fear and Loathing, not a Western. I'll throw in Kingpin just to watch that bitch again. That's a good fucking movie, man. i don't care what you say.
00:43:50
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but Fear and Loathing. No, no. Definitely not a Western. That is not a Western. It's hijinks.
00:44:02
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Steakland 1 and 2. Oh, shit.
00:44:08
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You know, there... John Carpenter's Vampires starring James Woods. Yes. i was left i was That one God, I fucking scrolled past that one to me or something the other day. i was like, hey, there you go.
00:44:24
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I was going say, dust till dawn.
00:44:33
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Yeah. Outlaws.
00:44:37
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Yeah. Vampires, which would substitute Native Americans. Sorry to hear that. They're in Mexico, so I mean. um They were Native. They're North Americans.
00:44:48
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Fair enough. Whatever, Central Americans. Yeah, I have a degree to teach geography. Ain't that funny?
00:44:57
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I mean, Ways to Die in the West. I really like Seth MacFarlane most of the time. I couldn't even watch that movie. I think I stopped it seven minutes in. The Ridiculous Six. I don't think I made it that far.
00:45:09
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Wagons East. Oh! I love that movie. I don't really like Richard what? richard what Was that Chris Farley's last movie? No, wasn't Chris Farley's last movie.
00:45:24
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Oh, shit. It was somebody's last movie. Chris Farley's last movie wasn't A Million Ways to Die in the West. It was... No, we're talking about Wagons East.
00:45:36
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No, no. That's not Chris Farley. That's Seven Farley. Seven Farley again, I think. No, Wagons East wasn't. that was I think that was like Matthew Perry somewhere.
00:45:49
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No, no, no, no, no. you would say The one with Matthew Perry had Chris Farley in it. That was the last movie he filmed. It was. and was that that That wasn't Wagon's East, though, was No, it was not.
00:46:01
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Wagon's East has... Let's go with the cast. John Candy. Shaman's in the house. Lewis, that's who it was. Okay. Shit.
00:46:12
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Almost Heroes. Almost Heroes. That's one with... ah The Bad Swimmer and Chris Farley. Allegedly. You guys are so stoned.
00:46:23
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Brittany, it's not just stoned. I've had a week. I've had a, especially I've had a day. I'm giddy with excitement to be here. because I'm telling you what. I was down in the dumps and until 8 o'clock or 8.20 when we hit that button.
00:46:36
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This show keeps me alive. All the show. The network keeps me alive. Viewers keep me alive. I'm having a rough time. I'm trying not to let the show, but yeah. I'm giddy with excitement to be here. Thanks. Thanks for watching. Thanks for supporting. Love all of it. And I'm stuck.
00:46:52
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Do have anything more to add about Western movies? Let's see. I had another wild card one. Got to go to my other search.
00:47:06
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Viagra keeps me up. a If the situation arises.
Exploring Non-Traditional Westerns
00:47:16
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Oh, the book of Eli.
00:47:20
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Is that the one with Denzel Washington? Yes. The big twist at the end was blind the entire time. I don't think that was a twist at the end. I think that was like, you you should have known that from the beginning.
00:47:32
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I didn't catch it. Um, He didn't have like the glazy eyes. Yeah, I thought so too, Trey. I'm not a believer or anything, but I thought that was a really fucking solid flick.
00:47:45
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I liked it in that I didn't like it for some reasons, but i don't I don't think I can...
00:47:55
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That's a stretch. that's that's almost poly lipsptic It's It's more post-apocalyptic than it is then technically technically so is walking dead
00:48:08
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But there's there's there's a there's a lot of Western elements. Yeah, I just think it's more post-apocalyptic than Western. Outlaws? A lone gunman?
00:48:20
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Okay, okay. before before Before I say yay or nay, what about Mad Max? Yeah! See, yeah you can say You could argue that's a Western.
00:48:33
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I would say yeah. ah Okay, then guess you can argue Booker Eli is Western. Because they're kind of on the same... Shut I didn't say that. Did I say Ziggy?
00:48:48
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don't remember saying Ziggy. anyway ah like Alexa, you're a large black dildo. Ha ha ha ha ha.
00:48:57
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I'm such a child. and the book we you like The book Eli, the problem I had with that movie was the religious bent to it.
00:49:08
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I knew that was going your answer. I didn't mind it. Yeah. Look, all film is fantasy, just like the Bible. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:49:21
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Oh, shit. Goddamn it. I hadn't watched it. hadn't watched it again. Yeah. Son of a bitch. Damn you, marijuana. It wasn't even that it had the religious bent.
00:49:33
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It was how it had the religious bent. In other words, like, it was it was like a... It was fun, it was violent, and then it was super... it was like it like a modern retelling of the rev of Revelations or some sort of shit. Oh, modern retelling. Thank you for saying that.
00:49:48
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I figured out what old... Shit.
00:49:54
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Suggie Bottom Boys. but But see, but here but here's the thing, just some do. like um um Horror movies and westerns are two totally different genres.
00:50:06
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But Devil's Reject is a western horror. Yes. I mean, yeah, that's what we're talking about. We're not talking about just westerns traditionally. There's an intersection with movies now. Yes, non-traditional westerns are a thing.
00:50:20
Speaker
it's It's a formula. that's Just some dude. That's what happens when you're like a child wandering into the middle of this conversation, wondering what's going on. Walter Sobchak for it. the dude Okay, oh brother, we're out now. I figured out what it is.
00:50:34
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It's not a Western. It's a quest film. It's a quest film. Oh, yes. Yes.
00:50:45
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Audience, what are some of your favorites we haven't mentioned yet? They have been mentioning some good ones. I will give them that. Yeah, they have. And guys, you can list shows as well.
00:50:57
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Yeah, sure. Series. I'm not sure what it is I said that you're laughing at. Thank you. Soggy motherfucking bottom, boys. Oh, i remember i remember what I remember what I said. I did i did say that as an inside joke.
00:51:12
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You got it. Okay, cool. You're paying attention.
00:51:17
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It'd be great you're paying attention.
00:51:23
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Oh boy, I'm trying to think of more non-traditional ones though, just for the fun of it. I was going to go ahead, cause dude, we're, we're reaching that hour. You have, you have a um gig to go support with a friend of the network. So I'm not going to, but ah want to go ahead and say, thanks for watching the Westerns. But before we go, i want to talk, I want to talk about a short film that was just released on YouTube.
00:51:49
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This isn't Western. This is horror genre. ah Specifically, Jason Voorhees. it's ah so It's called Friday the 13th Sweet Revenge. It's about 15 minutes long.
00:52:01
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And it's got an interesting twist. Of course, it's it's the regular formula. Camp Crystal Lake. Teens go to go and do their camping and drinking and fucking.
00:52:14
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And Jason's like, no, you can't do that. I'm going to stab. But in this one, and this one, ah shit, fuck it, I'm going spoil it. No. Don't spoil it.
00:52:25
Speaker
It's only 15 minutes. Okay. It's it's only 15 minutes. You're right. You're right. But go watch it. have watch Easterns. ah
00:52:35
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Dude, I love short films. Shit, John McSmith's just popping in. So let's go.
00:52:44
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We can do 15 more. Heck yeah. Smash that light. You're going to show a porn? No. Where'd you get that from?
00:52:59
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Okay.
00:53:01
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I've got all the but one. no I think I'm stretching just like you are. stretching here. We're going back on Westerns. children of the court i'm Give them 15 more minutes. just't No, no, no. John Mr. just showed up.
00:53:20
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No, I'm saying no. No, I'm saying no on the children of the Corps. No? not Not as a Western. No. it's Okay. It's got the settlers, the kids. It's got the... ah Yeah. yeah thank working i What about... awesome so Here's one.
00:53:40
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Here's one. here's the one I'm say no, but I'm going to say because it's in the desert. Tremors. And I love Kevin Bacon.
00:53:52
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yeah
00:53:55
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I don't know. Not just from the desert though, right? They're sort of outlaws, sort of. They're sort of settlers too. They're in the middle of nowhere.
00:54:10
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And you've got that common enemy thing or whatever, the worms. Sure, it's a monster, but as we've done, as I've done, areor sorry to say we, as I've done already, let's substitute worms for Native Americans.
00:54:25
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Why not? Why not?
00:54:31
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We're going to get a letter. We're going to get a letter.
00:54:37
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How about Predator?
00:54:41
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It's a jungle. No, it's a war. I put that like more war sci-fi sort of. It's a jungle. yeah Not a desert yeah or a western theme.
00:54:53
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You got your team of the law. That's Dutch in the front. That's bad guy, Outlaws. That's the whatever, Fark or whatever, frightening enemy.
00:55:04
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And then Predator is, guess what? Native American. I'm just, I'm going to say no to Beverly Hills Cop. That stretch. Oh, not even close. And Brittany is just joining us tonight for the last couple of minutes. Just because it's in California doesn't make it a Western.
Humorous Takes on Westerns
00:55:25
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She came in just ogle us what a weirdo. yeah
00:55:31
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Oh, she she's she she muted herself. It's so hilarious. You didn't fucking know me that I was going to be on camera or whatever. I was like... I don't want to fuck with you. No, fuck it. She's here now.
00:55:47
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Give us one example of a Western that's not a traditional Western. bri go One that we haven't already mentioned. them all my favorite is still Rango it's a cartoon but I don't give a fuck okay but it's a traditional way well I guess it's not it's animals Desperado don't you do i want that up to ah I love that movie ah but I fucking hate the Eagles I love that call me the dude i fucking hate the Eagles
00:56:20
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Oh, you just you okay, because I say that's a lot. That's the one with Antonio, right? Five Will Goes West, yes, I would consider that one a Western. It absolutely is Western. Fuck yeah, it is. Oh, that's a good one, too. I love that movie.
00:56:38
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I love that movie. I honestly totally forgot all about that movie. I'm making a special point to watch that this week. So you said but The Walking Dead, and that's all on the East fucking coast.
00:56:51
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Oh, my God. The fucking destination that doesn't look. Okay, so what about Shameless, then?
00:57:01
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Shameless is not a Western.
00:57:05
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Well, they steal people and... That's a that's a soap. Shameless. i'm sorry You talking about Shameless, like the Gallagher family? Yeah. Of course she is.
00:57:16
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It's as dumb as she is. theyre ah That's just stupid. That's a soap opera. okay That's a drama soap opera. It's a methhanline a um its them you so but some meth opera.
00:57:30
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It's a coming of age as well. It's a whole lot of things, but it's not a western. yeah spiritualial That's a good that's a good one i think and mean it's post apocalyptic But it still kind of goes along. but right The settlers... but i' going that i mean Call it RV the wagon train.
00:57:51
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Well, in that case, I'm going to go say Texas Chainsaw Massacre is a Western. yeah I'm joking. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. You said It must be true. Beverly Hillbillies. Yeah, right?
00:58:04
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You're a dick, Michael. That's the straightest dick, Tom.
00:58:10
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He's too confident over there. I can't believe y'all brought me in here. I was just going to send a secret message to you guys. Oh, okay. We could have just used a text. Bye-bye.
00:58:25
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Since that's all you want, that's all you get, bitch. I didn't care. I just remembered from the stage.
00:58:34
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britney Real quick. Let's wind it down, I suppose. I want to shout out all the new... subscribers to Facebook. We started the day with 490. We're at must right. It was 517 earlier.
00:58:55
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00:59:06
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00:59:20
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We understand that, you know, some people might need a spoonful of sugar help us go down.
00:59:29
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Just some dude. is du Just some dude. Brittany, are you single right now you've got a man?
00:59:37
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Okay, go undecided on that. if you If you decide to pick someone up, make it just some dude. He's just as dumb as you are. I
00:59:50
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mean, again, there is formula a formula that makes it a Western. Not that it's in the fucking West, you morons.
01:00:03
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And I mean that in the kindest way. Thanks for subscribing.
01:00:08
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I know who just some dude is. That's that's why it makes even more funny. but Britt leaving a mark. Britt leaving a mark. I want to say happy fucking Friday to everybody.
01:00:22
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and You got anything else you want to sign off with, Michael? um Fuck that just some dude guy and fuck you, Brittany.
01:00:34
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I want to say thank you for stopping by. Bring your own popcorn. And tomorrow night, it's going to be... Brittany and I hosting Saturday night. Glick will not be there. So we get to talk shit about Glick all night. We're not in total rural
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01:00:48
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area on our way back. I might pop if I can get a good enough cigarette bullshit with you.
01:00:53
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Hell yeah. And with that being said, good night. that spiritually Sweet popcorn. We all talk about anything but Western, you filthy twat.
01:01:06
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No, you just came in late. We talked about a lot of this. excuse But then we go on tangents too because, you know, stuff and things.
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