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S7.E5 - Endurance - Part 5
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Robb leads our discussion of Part 5 from Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage by Alfred Lansing.
(2:11) Would you have preferred to be one of the five to go on the 800+ mile voyage or stay behind on the island waiting to be rescued?
(10:32) What was the last time you had to get creative with something? What problem were you trying to solve, and how did it work out?
(26:49) If you got to pick one meal, what would it be?
Next week we’ll discuss Part 6 (pages 273 - 321).
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Introduction of Futuristic Gadgets
00:00:46
Speaker
Have you ever found yourself in the most uncomfortable situations ever and would give anything to get out of them? Well, look no further, now introducing Lifesaver. This ain't your grandparents wristlet that calls the ambulance when they've fallen and can't get up. No, this is the future, the now, for those most uncomfortable situations. Say you're out to dinner with your girl and your ex is the waitress.
00:01:12
Speaker
or that you just squeaked more than a fart through at work before a big presentation. Or even that you signed up to go traverse Antarctica and you're now stranded on an island frostbitten. Lifesaver is that snap of your fingers, press of a button lifesaver that transports you into the future where everything is okay while cleaning up the mess you're currently in. Why go through life unprotected when you can have lifesaver?
00:01:42
Speaker
Introducing Shackleton's Crankin' Toasty Socks. Pros and toes, Antarctic woes, meet the socks that save expeditions and your dignity. How it works, you slip them on, crank the hand generator like your life depends on it, boom, warm feet and happy soul. Doubles as a workout as well. Get ripped and stay toasty. Shackleton's Crankin' Toasty Socks because electricity wasn't invented yet.
Survival on Elephant Island
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Speaker
All right, boys. Part five marks the start of a new chapter as the men set foot on solid ground once again, the Elephant Island. It's like Neil Armstrong landing on the moon, but with less moonwalking and more frostbite. The guys are filled with a sense of relief, finally off the boats and able to rest. But just as they start to think they might actually catch a break, rumors fly. Within 24 hours, they'll need to pack up and head to a safer spot on the island.
00:02:39
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Of course this little detour comes with blizzard conditions and winds that could freeze the beard off of a yeti. Plus, almost everyone suffering from frostbite and the new campsite is about as appealing as wearing the same pair of frozen underwear for months on end. But true to form, the men make camp surviving and because it's tradition, killing penguins.
00:03:02
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As the days drag on, Shackleton drops the bombshell. A party of five will take the card and head out to find rescue for the expedition. Although there were other destinations some 500 miles away, Shackleton declares it's South Georgia, a solid 800 miles away that will be their destination due to their ability to travel 60 miles per day with the help of their frenemy, The Wind.
00:03:27
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On page 193 it states, and though the carriage chances of actually reaching South Georgia were remote, a great many men genuinely wanted to be taken along.
Decision: Stay or Join Rescue?
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The prospect of staying behind, of waiting and not knowing, of possibly wintering on the hateful island was far from attractive.
00:03:47
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So first question, would you have preferred to be one of the five brave souls setting sail on the Cared to find rescue or would you have preferred to stay put on Elephant Island? What's your reasoning behind your choice?
00:04:02
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I think selfishly I would want to go on the boat because staying back and you know just sitting there waiting not knowing what's gonna happen if there's even gonna be anybody coming or if I'm just gonna sit here suffering through this horrendous winter I would rather be like in the know They just so that you could say, I'm on a boat.
00:04:30
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ah Yeah, that too, for sure. Even after being on the boats for so long, you'd want to go right back out. Yeah, I think that's the better than the alternative to just sit there and wait. I mean, I guess I think the self sacrificial thing to do would be to sit there and wait. Yeah, that's the way I see it.
00:04:50
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yeah it seems Yeah, it seems like the preferable option would be to go. But yeah, I agree with Flez, where it seems like there's more hope in going on the boat. I think they had just the to get to Elephant Island, I think it was like five days, six days, but like the way they described it, ah they got like zero sleep on on that trip.
00:05:10
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So it as you're mentioning, Rob, but it definitely sounds awful to spend more time on a small boat in the middle of the ocean. But at the same time, I think having just had that journey, you kind of think there's there's no way that ship's going to make it. So it's like, do you rather go on the ship that you think is going to like crash and not make it and die on the ocean or like be stranded on an island?
00:05:34
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Like, which of those sounds worse? They both sound pretty awful. Yeah. I don't know. I've been going back and forth on this one. I think after the five or six days of being on a boat, I don't know if I would want to go back on a boat, especially knowing that you have to cross the Drake Sea, I think is what it was called. Drake Passage. Drake Passage. Yeah. If you knew that you had to go through that, I think I would probably choose to stay behind, take my chances just by waiting. So Matt, you would stay behind, Fles, you would go. I would say i would I would prefer to go. What do you think, Rob? Yeah, i've been I've been going back and forth, but my gut says that I would stay back.
00:06:22
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after after everything they went through with the boats and not knowing if they were going to make it and just waiting and hoping and praying to find land and I know that the land that they found was you know less ideal um but just knowing that I don't know there were more men that My chances of having warmth were greater. I mean, to put your body under more stress and and harsh conditions again after like probably not even going out.
00:06:58
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And to know that the boat could capsize whatever, I mean, yeah, it's a, it's a hard sell because who else would find them if it's not those five guys, you know, coming back. So, but yeah, for me,
Creative Problem-Solving Stories
00:07:11
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it was going to be a hard sell to, to get back on the boat after everything that they had just weathered. so I would hang back. Can you guys remind me? The thought was that it was going to be.
00:07:23
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ah Short as like a month of a wait for them to get back, but it could be three months four months It could be half like the wait until the next spring, right? So it could be as short as a month or two, but then as long as like a year, right? That's what I recall. Yeah, I think so I believe so. Yeah, I mean the waiting game would have been brutal.
00:07:42
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For sure. I mean, I think we see that in this chapter because it starts out in April, I think, and then the part ends with multiple journal entries from different August dates. And they're basically all saying that like, hey, we're waiting. We go up to the top of the hill. We don't see anything.
00:08:04
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It's torturous waiting, but I don't know. I think the resources and the men and just having faith that they'll come back would have kept me from being one of the five. But I'd love to hear what Garrett thought. I would rather go. Is it pronounced card, by the way? I thought it was cared. Cared, card, who cares? Gold jacket, green jacket. Green jacket.
00:08:33
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If you can't pronounce it, you can't get on it, okay, Garrett? Could you imagine Shackleton like, all right, what's the name of this boat? Cared. All right, get on. What's the name of this boat? Card. Sorry, buddy. Back of the line. If I chose the crew, that would make sense that he would do that. What's your reasoning, Garrett?
00:08:57
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I don't have the patience to wait. I'm an impatient person at baseline and I have control issues. So sitting on the Island waiting for other people to save me is kind of a double whammy negative effect of my personality. Yeah. So getting to go.
00:09:24
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and play a role, an active role in the rescue and saving operation. That way I'm not, the patience is more or less in my control. If the weather is horrible, at least I'm dealing with the weather and can change course or row the boat or whatever. Yeah. I mean, do you think with that Garrett, is there a component where you're, we where you would say like, I don't maybe like trust others as much?
00:09:53
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Yeah, I think that's part of the control issue is a lack of trust in others. I feel like I could, I could see myself thinking very similar in this situation. Yeah. I mean, if they were going to let like black burrow on there, I'd be like, all right. All right. I'll go. I just got his freaking leg amputated like ah foot or whatever. foot or cars foot Twist my arm or twist his foot.
00:10:27
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tri to this All right. Well, for most of the group, it's back to the same slow, soul-crushing, freezing days on the island. Every moment is spent wondering if they'll manage to keep all their fingers and toes. In true desperate fashion, the men get inventive, repurposing the other boats to build a hut. As the proverb goes, necessity is the mother of invention.
00:10:55
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When was the last time you had to get creative with something? What problem were you trying to solve and did it work? I just use chat GPT for all of my creativity. So I don't really actually, I don't actually come up with anything anymore. It's just, I have the thought thing and then I have chat GPT do it for me.
00:11:14
Speaker
So when we were painting our house, our ceiling in the kitchen is vault like vaulted, probably at like a 45 degree angle um at the very tip of it. And it's probably, I don't know, 15, 20 feet up in the air. And so When we were painting it, I was like, wow, how are we going to get that? And so, you know, we got an edger. And so I was able to kind of get up around the edges.
00:11:46
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And then we, we borrowed a buddy's ladder and I was able to like hoist it up and really like move it around and get up there. But then it got to like the very edge of the vaulted. So it's like at a 45 degree angle kind of, and the edger wouldn't, it wouldn't get like all the way up to the the very top of it. So I no joke got this ladder. I climbed to the very top of it, like Like, you know how it's like an A-frame and it's like, oh, you can be on both sides? Like, no, I got to like the very top ah of the ladder. I got a broomstick and then I taped a paintbrush.
00:12:32
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to the broomstick and no joke, I was like on one foot holding onto the wall and like leaning up and trying to get these, uh, the, the very top of the ceiling to paint over it. And I was like, I'm not going to hire anybody to do this. I'm going to get it done.
00:12:53
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And I just remember like trying different things. And then I was like, Oh wait, what if I put a tooth or a a paintbrush to the end of a broomstick and make it work? And so that was the last time I got super creative. It looks like shit, but, um, It's not blue. I feel like I see a product and subsequently an ad that needs to be created for this. I mean, dude, it was dangerous because no joke, nobody, Marianne was out of town. I took taking things off to work. And so I was climbing the top of this ladder and shaking and, you know, leaning up against a wall while doing this and.
00:13:36
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It was, it was kind of wild. So that was the last time I got inventive. Yeah, there you'll really get your spot. Rob, I think about work stuff. There's a lot of situations that might arise with work where, you know, just earlier this week where I was talking to a physician and we were going to start proceed with, he was going to proceed with using our product for a surgery.
00:14:00
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And so many obstacles we're running into of like issues with like the folks in the hospital who are like, oh, we don't know if we can use this product because this and this and that. And I couldn't like look at the the images to choose like the right right product. and I think in in those kind of situations, it's like, and I don't think I would have been as good at this and as in the past, not to say I'm good at now, but you know just being okay with not knowing something and being very like polite to people and being like, I don't know this, can you know someone help me with this? And um kind of maybe a different take on the question.
00:14:35
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but really seeking input from others. And and sometimes the people I work with, but a lot of times but I don't, I think there's sometimes a fear associated with trying to ask someone to help you. But at the end of the day, I think a lot of people enjoy helping people.
00:14:51
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I have to be creative every day with my job. Usually I pull up to a clinic and I'm like, what do I want to do when I walk in there today? and it's Do I drop off a business card and write a note on it? What do I write on the note? Do I drop off a brochure? Which brochure do I drop off? Do I drop off a pen, sticky notes, whatever kind of marketing i material I have.
00:15:12
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What's it going to be today? and what like What's the type of doctor? How am I going to tailor the note to this specific type of clinic and doctor? and And so I'm kind of doing that throughout the day. like I went to 22 different places on Monday. No, it was yesterday. So I mean, that was like 22 stops where I did that basically. And so I get like that part of my job. It's definitely going to have to get creative because you can't just drop off the same thing every time and say the exact same thing every time. So I think that's a creative aspect.
00:15:47
Speaker
You ever, uh, written your contact information on like a $5 bill? I'm like, Hey, here's my info. At you get $5 out of it if you don't want to use it. I think that might be illegal.
00:16:08
Speaker
But then Fles goes out to lunch and pays in cash and then gets $5 back and it's his name on it.
00:16:19
Speaker
Because there's so many of them out there because I've loaded with $5 bills. Jared, I know you're creative. Have you done anything recently? I thought of work examples as well, like FLEZ. It's pretty common in a given day to have to juggle approvals and satisfying the wants and desires and requirements of multiple parties for a single product, whether that's The licensing partner we're working with and then our internal teams.
Work Challenges and Adaptability
00:16:55
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So we're working on this new product that we're launching with Disney in a few months. And at the 11th hour, they came back with some requests to adjust their copyright.
00:17:07
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And long story short, there were multiple options. Some were more favorable. Some were very unfavorable. And it was just like the necessity was this is a seasonal product. And if we don't resolve this issue now, and like, we're going to miss the entire selling season. And it was a huge revenue opportunity.
00:17:31
Speaker
And so I think like, you know, just having to think of like, all right, what is a solution that I'm not currently thinking about? What is a way that we can meet everyone's needs here? To some degree, everyone gets what they want that I'm not currently thinking of. And that's something that's a pretty common occurrence in, in my line of work. I'm trying to think of a non-work experience though.
00:17:55
Speaker
I like that kind of creativity though, like entrepreneurial creativity or business creativity ah fascinates me. you know Adam and here you guys both gave work examples. Is there anything that you feel like you have to do? ah Is there any like certain like thought process or kind of like maybe ritual even you go through when you're faced with like a more kind of a challenging situation like ah like where you have to kind of adapt to a situation?
00:18:21
Speaker
Like a ritualistic type thing that I would do if I faced a challenge, is that what you asked? Yeah, or like anything that you've like found to be consistently is something that once you do this, then it's helpful. I think the most important thing is just to stay calm, to learn how to stay calm, whatever way works for you. Yeah. I have various techniques for that. Because I mean, if you're not calm, then you're not going to make a good decision. So again, it takes away creativity, for sure, if you're not calm.
00:18:47
Speaker
Yeah. Like I could freak out and be like, Oh my gosh, I have a lunch tomorrow that in Bunker Hill. That means I'm not going to get to this part of my territory anymore. And then I'm going to not get to that part two weeks, but then take a deep breath and then be like, okay, I'll hit this part of my territory since it's alone in the way and I'll get there tomorrow or something like that. I don't know if that answers your question or not, but I would just say, and no yeah yeah, for sure.
00:19:12
Speaker
Yeah. The only thing I would add is first off completely agree with Fluz is staying calm. It's the first thing very important. And second, again, going back to what I said earlier about being impatient and control, I can sometimes need jerk react to things. And I've learned like slow down, take a deep breath, literally give it some time.
00:19:36
Speaker
And then three is the pie is not fixed. Like work and business is not a zero sun, some game where, okay, Disney's wanting this thing, but I'm wanting this thing. So they're going to have to sacrifice for me to win, or I'm going to have to sacrifice for them to get what they want. That's not necessarily or nor should be the case or mentality. So thinking of there's ways that we can both get what we want. We can both make this product great.
00:20:06
Speaker
currently experiencing this been a stressful, stressful time recently. So one of these things that I'm actively trying to think about our team was working on these Valentine's day mini mouse designs and we've been working and working and we have a domestic manufacturing plant and we got the samples made there and it took a few weeks with the holidays and We get them yesterday. We are about to submit them for approval. And the person on our team responds, like notifies me. Hey, we, we like miss this, but the style guide. So like the art assets that we get from Disney, they have like launch windows and so the product can't set until July with the art that we used. And.
00:20:58
Speaker
It was like, like literally like my heart dropped because the amount of units where we were probably going to sell was going to be like six figures. It was going to be like, we were going to push a lot of units and I'm like, okay, stay calm, deep breath. Let's figure out a solution. Let's not panic. And let's think about.
00:21:21
Speaker
What does that set date mean? Is that like truly like no product, you know? So ah this is very real time, like daily trying to figure out some solutions of like, we went from meeting with the marketing and the sales teams of, this is what's coming. We just got these samples. Look how good they look. We're going to request rush approval. We're going to do this guys to a false alarm. We don't have anything and that's not necessarily true. It might be.
00:21:50
Speaker
When this episode publishes, it'll probably be right around Valentine's day. So it'll be curious to see what happens when this goes live, but it's a very like real thing. That's very, uh, it's not uncommon for this to almost be like a daily experience at work of just, there's a new issue and we got to figure it out.
00:22:10
Speaker
I thought of some things work related, but work things are boring. So yeah, I'm not going to trade them. Good work. Thanks. I'm just kidding. My work things are boring. Did you work?
00:22:30
Speaker
I was bored during work and had a bunch of Amazon boxes. I think it was around Christmas time or something because we got a ton of boxes. But um I just wanted something to put my phone on. You know, like when you're sitting at your desk, you just put your phone there. So I just cut up some cardboard and got duct tape and made this little phone holder.
00:22:57
Speaker
yeah It even has a hole in the bottom. You can put a charger in there.
00:23:05
Speaker
What do you call it Matt, what's the what's the the model this is the yellow magic cardboard 1.0. Oh Well, ah we'll include a picture in the show notes. What is that? What is it? have to be So just for reference you you've had this thing for like almost a decade. Oh, not that long he said this oh this christmas year Maybe last maybe two Christmases ago Two Christmases ago. That's impressive. Heck yeah. Still using it, baby. I was totally expecting him to say that you built a fort. I was totally waiting for that. That would be sweet. It's my next project. I'll see you in a minute tomorrow. I was bored during work, so I built a fort. That's so funny. Matt, how was work today? Well, I built a fort. That's also another co-conceit I did during work. Took a lot of engineering skills.
00:23:57
Speaker
good Another fun thing that I think is just fun to share is whenever you're with a group of people who have different tastes in music, like on our Grand Canyon chip, Rob only likes country, Garrett only likes rap, and the rest of us like good music.
00:24:15
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um
00:24:20
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It's fun to create a playlist and have everyone contribute a song. So you just go around in a circle and say, pick one song. What's one song you want to add to the playlist? Boom. And you just skip the songs that you don't like if you're matting. Well, yeah, because I'm driving. I'm driving using the passenger seat. So yeah, it's all up to us really.
Road Trip Playlist Dilemmas
00:24:41
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Well, yeah, I don't remember any country on that playlist either. I didn't add anything. There are maybe like three songs. Okay.
00:24:50
Speaker
It is a good way to satisfy everyone's music tastes. That was pretty funny, Matt. Whenever I i kept skipping to the next song and acting like I didn't know what was going on because I was on the steering wheel. That was good. Have you guys seen those ah posts or videos about people that they're tired of porch pirates that steal their Amazon packages? So they put like,
00:25:17
Speaker
All their stuff that they would throw away, like an old TV that's broken and they wrap it up and they leave it on their porch and these porch pirates come and get it for them. That's amazing. Thanks for taking my crap. That's hilarious. That's a good idea. That's pretty inventive. Funny story along the line of porch pirates. How long do you think that that phrase has been around?
00:25:42
Speaker
seven five years that's I was thinking, yeah, maybe five to seven years. I would say about eight years ago, I was working with this patient, and this patient was one of the like more... He was an older guy, but like one of the more odd individuals I had worked with, and he just made stuff that and made no sense like all the time.
00:26:03
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And I'd like try to track of like what he's saying and that kind of thing. And I remember one day I'm like working with him. Let's call him Bill. That wasn't his name. But I said, Bill, how's your day going? And he goes, these these dang pirates, these porch pirates keep stealing stuff from my porch.
00:26:19
Speaker
And I had never heard the phrase before and it wasn't like a common cultural phrase yet. So I was like, what is this guy smoking? And I remember, I remember like we like months went by and then I like that I heard the phrase like on the news or somewhere else in like pop pop culture. And I was like, oh, like I was just behind the times and Bill was just way ahead and with what the kids were saying. Yeah, man. That's so funny.
00:26:47
Speaker
All right, boys, I'm gonna move on to the next one.
Dream Meals After Survival
00:26:51
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The chapter's going on to detail how the weather gets worse, the days grow shorter, the ice thickens, and the chances of rescue seem slimmer with each passing day. Things hit rock bottom for the group when the tobacco runs out, unless, of course, you're Black Barrel, who's facing the added joy of having his foot amputated with makeshift anesthesia.
00:27:13
Speaker
But despite everything, the men find small comfort in imagining their ultimate dish of choice if they could have one. The overwhelming favorite, something sweet, not savory. Dumplings with cream, a variety of puddings are frequently mentioned, though some opt for eggs, pork, potatoes, and beans. But when you're Black Barrow, plain bread and butter are good enough. Now, if you were stuck in these icy conditions, having eaten penguin for over a year,
00:27:43
Speaker
What would your dish of choice be? Anything in the world, gents, what's it going to be? Give me a big hamburger, not made out of ham, but out of beef from maybe like 54th Street or something. That's huge ones. I haven't been there yet. Bacon and cheese and jalapenos and a side of fries. And then maybe like a fresh out of the oven chocolate chip cookie. And then a bag of chips also. now I would miss chips a lot. What kind of chips though? Ooh, probably the sun chips, garden salsa. Oh yeah, they're good. I think my answer, it really has a lot to do with like the situation, like being so cold. Like the one thing that I really enjoy in cold weather is chicken pot pie.
00:28:38
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and There's been a few okay there's been a few like frigid nights in Phoenix lately where it hits like 50 and just freezing. We've had chicken pot pie recently and it just like hits the spot. I don't know why that makes me laugh so much. Chicken pot pie. Yeah. Every time I think of chicken pot pie, I think of Boston Market. RIP, right? Are they still out around?
00:29:06
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I think they closed up, man. Yeah. All right. Never forget. I'd go buds pizza. It's a little, little spot in South city here in St. Louis. And that's like their gluten free pizza crust is like thick and it's the best pizza I've ever had before. I'd go with the pepperoni, Canadian bacon, maybe some other stuff on there, load it up with some meat.
00:29:31
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the side of maybe like some hot cocoa. do remember i don't know I do a mixture at QT of how the hot cocoa and the French vanilla cappuccino, like a little bit of the French vanilla.
00:29:44
Speaker
I did that when I was like 10. I would do that when I worked a quick trip in the winter. You worked a quick trip? Yeah, in high school. I didn't know that. You can get free drinks anytime, so when it was cold out, that's exactly what I would do. That works a mean to registers. Yeah. Plus, I feel like you'd also go for like a whole sleeve of Oreos and a glass of milk.
00:30:11
Speaker
That's for sure. Yeah, that's the size of you if you were actually were in this situation, would you risk a gluten meal? Or a gluten dish? I mean am I gonna die if I don't? Is it gonna be like severe GI symptoms or death? Probably GI symptoms Would you risk it? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that would be interesting. It does make me wonder what penguin tastes like. Kind of like it just is like super chewy, rubbery. Yeah, probably. Rob, what would you go with? Man, I would go with like a
00:30:50
Speaker
12 ounce fillet, mashed potatoes, and fries. And then I would have a ah New York cheesecake. Even though it's cold, that would be my dish. Okay. What kind of fries that Rob like steak fries or waffle fries, or like, is a certain place where probably steak fries, earlyy fries, ketchup, and a side of Thomas sentiment.
00:31:16
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who Hey, how's Singapore? It's good, man. I've been stranded here for like three days. Stranded? He does to come and get you, come and rescue you on the James Care. Yeah, man, I do. I need you to... I would prefer the Dudley Docker, but if you want to, James Care is fine. Yeah, the Dudley Docker was our favorite. That's right. That's pretty cool. Second floor is a good city. I like it. It's not a bad place to be stuck.
00:31:49
Speaker
do you only eat penguin there that'd be awesome i'd like to try penguin i want a big ol helping ah grandma teach cobbler with a but some hot piece collar was and vanilla ice cream on top first and then I could eat like steak and stuff. Ice cream and Antarctica. Love it. It's the most because I'm a sugar fiend. Garrett, what about you, man? I think creme brulee comes to mind like like a warm dessert, just something
00:32:26
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Like I was shocked at Matt's response. Like you've only eaten meat for almost two years and then you want more. That just surprised me. I feel like I'd want- It's a different kind of meat. True, but I think it's just like, just meat period. Like I'd probably just be like, dude, give me some fruit.
00:32:43
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and give me some chocolate and I'll be good. But a creme brulee and a nice, especially with the cold, just a nice cup of coffee. I was wondering how did them boys not get scurvy the whole time? like It's not like any of the stuff they even ate eats fruit. So where are they getting all their vitamins? What's scurvy again? It's so a lot of sailors used to get it back in the day because they they didn't have fruit.
00:33:07
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And I think it has to do with vitamin C and some of those other vitamins that you pee out pretty fast and then your body doesn't have it for too long and you have all these issues. Yeah, vitamin C, I think, specifically.
Humor in Tough Conditions
00:33:19
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Yeah, I was wondering how they didn't that they didn't get that. I guess they had stores, like jams and jellies and stuff that they kind of kept most of the time. Yeah, I wonder if i wonder what the net amount of days were where they only had meat because they seem to have powdered milk and stuff. like they They're like, yeah, then they had some more powdered milk. umm like They still have some. I just keep like i don't know how much
00:33:43
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Supply they had but we keep reading in later and later parts of the book and I continue to get surprised that there's more. They were so delirious. They were mixing snow in with hot water, pretending it was milk.
00:33:59
Speaker
I just looked this up because I was curious, because I remember at one point learning about like Inuit tribes and stuff, like not getting scurvy, and they would eat the organ meat of animals. And so... Like a liver or something. A testicle here and there.
00:34:19
Speaker
but being fantasticle you know they am I mean, you're not only going to let it go to waste. yeah You know, we were talking about a couple of weeks ago, we were talking a couple of weeks ago about just different jokes, you would say. And um I think like there'd be a prime situation for a joke when you're going around and asking everyone like, Oh, what would you want to eat? What would you want to eat? I'd be like, you know, penguin stew sounds pretty good right about now. And some dog pemmican.
00:34:45
Speaker
steel blubber yeah I think it's like, it's like, uh, cause like, so the pemmican was what they gave the dogs like to to eat. And I think it's like a combination of a grind, grind it up meat, I think. All right, boys, part five wraps up with the men still on edge, anxiously waiting to see if the cared will return to rescue them. We'll find out what happens in part six.