Return from Hiatus
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Cokeley Brothers
Hey, we're here after a long break. We're going to talk about a little bit of wrestling.
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Pensylvester
Timmy, now you sound bad. I'm
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Cokeley Brothers
Don't play with me.
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Shoebody do bop
No, you sound fine.
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Pensylvester
playing with you. Got him.
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Pensylvester
You love it.
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Cokeley Brothers
Thanks. I
Podcast Delays and Life Jokes
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Shoebody do bop
We've been having some technical difficulties lately.
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Cokeley Brothers
love it.
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Cokeley Brothers
But that's not why we're so late to this new episode. We're just lazy. So we're going to we're going
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Shoebody do bop
No, no, no, no, na no and no.
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Pensylvester
Yeah, we're lazy.
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Pensylvester
Ryan is especially lazy.
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Shoebody do bop
Back up. It's...
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Pensylvester
I'm kidding.
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Shoebody do bop
How is this? How is this? wait Listen, we got bit. We lead busy lives. Some of us travel on the weekends.
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Shoebody do bop
You know, some of us work late.
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Cokeley Brothers
you You fondling your mic stand is not a good sound.
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Shoebody do bop
right. Sorry.
NCAA Wrestling Highlights
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Cokeley Brothers
Thank you.
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Shoebody do bop
I fidget with stuff. It's what I do.
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Shoebody do bop
But anyways.
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Cokeley Brothers
Some of us travel on weekends? Yeah. Okay.
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Cokeley Brothers
We're going to get through this. Let's just gloss over some some of the things we loved about the upper weights at NCAAs. I'll go first. DJ Washington, all American for Indiana at 184 pounds.
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Cokeley Brothers
Let's go Hoosiers.
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Pensylvester
That was it.
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Cokeley Brothers
That's it.
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Cokeley Brothers
That was it.
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Cokeley Brothers
That was my first thing.
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Shoebody do bop
Angels Angels first correct.
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Cokeley Brothers
Angels first. And honestly, DJ was part of his initial recruiting class.
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Shoebody do bop
Couldn't have been a better guy.
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Shoebody do bop
No, so I'm saying
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Cokeley Brothers
I don't know if it was his first recruit, but that was like a cool first full circle moment.
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Shoebody do bop
I feel like it was his first definitely his first major recruit, right?
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Cokeley Brothers
There were a handful of guys in that group. um As a matter of fact, three of them were all in the same Super 32 bracket. And they, I want to say DJ might've taken the lowest place out of the three of them.
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Cokeley Brothers
Nick South was in the finals and Matt Ortiz might've placed ahead DJ. I'm not sure.
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Cokeley Brothers
So, but yeah, that was my, that was, that was pretty much the highlight of the tournament for me personally.
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Cokeley Brothers
I mean, i look, I think...
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Pensylvester
Shake Shack was the highlight for me.
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Shoebody do bop
over heavy Over heavyweight?
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Cokeley Brothers
I think... Let me talk. I think...
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Shoebody do bop
Let me talk.
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Pensylvester
it sounds like go.
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Shoebody do bop
Let me talk.
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Pensylvester
Just let Can I speak?
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Shoebody do bop
Let me talk.
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Pensylvester
let me go just let me go
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Shoebody do bop
Let me talk.
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Cokeley Brothers
It's my turn! It's my turn! let
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Cokeley Brothers
let me Let me get this... can i Can I even get a word in, edgewise?
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Cokeley Brothers
If Wyatt had done what he had done, but Indiana still had no All-Americans...
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Cokeley Brothers
that would have, that would have not felt great. And so
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Shoebody do bop
it I don't know what you mean. don't understand.
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Cokeley Brothers
like, okay, it's cool that Wyatt did what he did. It's awesome. But there's a certain, there's like ah thing that does not, there's, there's, there's a thing that does not get fulfilled by anything other than Indiana having some success.
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Shoebody do bop
It's way better than Angel Escobedo getting his first All-American.
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Cokeley Brothers
There is this personal, not gratification, but it's, yeah, you need i need I need the Hoosiers to to fill my hole.
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Shoebody do bop
It's a hole. a hole deep down inside you.
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Cokeley Brothers
and And they did that.
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Shoebody do bop
Say it, Reese.
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Cokeley Brothers
ah go Somebody else go.
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Pensylvester
That's what he said.
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Pensylvester
He being Sammy.
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Cokeley Brothers
Somebody else go. God.
Twitter Talk: Elon Musk's Takeover
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Pensylvester
what? Where, what are we doing? What are we?
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Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
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Cokeley Brothers
What was the what was your your favorite thing about the upperweights?
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Pensylvester
I already, oh, upper weights.
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Cokeley Brothers
There you go.
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Pensylvester
I mean, yeah.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it was. It was super cool. It was awesome.
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Shoebody do bop
It was the coolest thing ever. And I wasn't even there live. You guys got to witness it live. I'm so jealous.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah, you saw the photos.
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Pensylvester
There were, now yeah, it was awesome.
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Cokeley Brothers
Well... the photos
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Shoebody do bop
No, I saw it on TV. I watched it happen.
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Pensylvester
You especially would have loved Elon Musk because you love Elon Musk.
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Shoebody do bop
watched it go down on TV.
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Pensylvester
Big Musk guy. Yeah.
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Shoebody do bop
What do you mean by that?
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Pensylvester
You love Elon Musk.
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Shoebody do bop
I like that he took Twitter over. I think it's funny.
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Pensylvester
Do you like that he changed the name?
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Cokeley Brothers
i was I was talking about...
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Shoebody do bop
i don't I mean, he can change it to whatever he wants to. I'm just going to keep calling it Twitter.
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Cokeley Brothers
yeah i was specifically referring to the photo where you can see us celebrating as Wyatt got the takedown.
NCAA Wrestling Event Details
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Cokeley Brothers
That's what I was talking about.
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Shoebody do bop
That's the one I was referring to.
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Pensylvester
Yeah, that was cool. So I got a question, Sammy.
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Cokeley Brothers
and Okay. What's up?
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Pensylvester
How do you know that's not an ECO Megalutis?
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Cokeley Brothers
I, dude, I do remember this guy. um remember seeing him down to our left and it was not Nico Megalutis. I promise you, I swear, i swear on it.
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Pensylvester
Well, I mean, that's a good that's good enough reason for me.
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Shoebody do bop
race, race, you think it's race, you think it's race, you think it's Nico mega Lutis?
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Pensylvester
I was like, maybe it could be. I was just like, and i was and i didn't understand why Sammy was so certain that it wasn't it wasn't him. But that makes sense.
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Cokeley Brothers
the the guys The guy's face, and Nico, if you're listening to this, I'm going to apologize for what I'm about to say.
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Pensylvester
What do think?
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Cokeley Brothers
Nico has a of a face, what not too so too different from a rat.
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Shoebody do bop
Jamie, Jamie, could you pull up the two pictures from earlier, please?
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Cokeley Brothers
Or like...
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Shoebody do bop
Jamie, pull up the two pictures.
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Cokeley Brothers
There's no pictures to pull up. that We're not doing that.
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Shoebody do bop
Yeah, the pictures that we had in our group chat, and they they were side by side.
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Cokeley Brothers
Right. i can't put them i can't put them up on the screen.
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Shoebody do bop
They were uncanny.
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Pensylvester
I can't touch anything.
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Cokeley Brothers
I can't put them up on the screen.
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Shoebody do bop
Yeah, but if you could, but if you could,
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Pensylvester
i can't touch anything or my mic will disconnect.
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Cokeley Brothers
But if I could, I would. I would. But look, Ryan, go message Nico.
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Shoebody do bop
you would have to admit, ah Ryan, do this, Ryan, do that.
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Cokeley Brothers
Go message Nico. Go talk to him. You said you were going to do it and you've met him or or you've trained with him or whatever.
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Shoebody do bop
Ryan, your network, your network is so much better than mine. Ryan, please, please contact this person. Ryan, you're so much better than me. We look up to you so much, Ryan. and We love you. You're the best.
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Shoebody do bop
Say it. That's
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Cokeley Brothers
Ryan, we need you.
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Shoebody do bop
all I needed.
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Cokeley Brothers
No, it wasn't it wasn't Nico. I promise.
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Pensylvester
He's promising you.
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Cokeley Brothers
Nico almost always has facial hair these days, too.
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Shoebody do bop
what What's going to happen when I ask and he says, yeah, that's me.
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Cokeley Brothers
i will learn. i will learn to do the canned heat dance from Napoleon Dynamite.
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Pensylvester
The what? Did you recently, did you just, did you watch that recently or is that just popped in your head?
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Shoebody do bop
That's the one he does at the talent show.
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Cokeley Brothers
Nope. Just pulled that one out of my ass. Yep.
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Shoebody do bop
Give me a, give me a glimpse.
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Cokeley Brothers
We good?
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Shoebody do bop
Show me what you got first. I got, got to know that, you know, the dance.
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Cokeley Brothers
I have... Here's the thing, Ryan. I have nothing for you right now, so you get to see it from...
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Shoebody do bop
I got to know that, you know, the dance.
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Cokeley Brothers
What do you mean? i have to learn the dance.
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Shoebody do bop
If you don't, uh, you have to learn it.
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Cokeley Brothers
That's part of the consequence.
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Shoebody do bop
Okay. I thought maybe you knew it already.
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Pensylvester
That's what I was thinking.
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Pensylvester
That's the impression i was getting.
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Cokeley Brothers
That'd be sick. That would be so cool. Dude, if I could move like that.
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Shoebody do bop
Like Jagger?
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Cokeley Brothers
and know Napoleon.
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Pensylvester
You don't ever reference Adam Levine on this podcast, Ryan.
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Shoebody do bop
What's wrong with Adam? um
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Pensylvester
Adam Levine is canceled until further notice.
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Shoebody do bop
He's back on The Voice.
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Pensylvester
He's canceled.
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Shoebody do bop
He's back.
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Shoebody do bop
You know what that means. He's got new music coming out, Reese, and you're going to have to listen to it.
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Pensylvester
I haven't heard a Maroon 5 song, a new one in 10 years, it feels like now.
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Shoebody do bop
No, it hasn't been that long.
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Cokeley Brothers
No, I listen to their old stuff. It's really good.
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Shoebody do bop
What old stuff?
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Cokeley Brothers
have ah have it on this record right here.
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Shoebody do bop
Tell me what what you constitute as old.
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Cokeley Brothers
You know, Sunday morning, rain has fallen.
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Shoebody do bop
Oh, man. That's old.
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Cokeley Brothers
Steal some covers, share some skin.
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Shoebody do bop
It hurts.
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Cokeley Brothers
It's great.
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Shoebody do bop
I remember that song when it came out. Like yesterday. Except it wasn't yesterday.
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Cokeley Brothers
No, it was years ago. was a long one. It was like 20 years ago.
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Shoebody do bop
20 years ago.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Okay. So we're talking about Wyatt. but But actually, no, before we move on from NCAAs, 174.
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Shoebody do bop
And also Stephen Buchanan. Good job. Put the team on your back though.
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Cokeley Brothers
Became a good job. Go Hawks.
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Shoebody do bop
Finally got, finally got your title too. It only took you three schools.
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Pensylvester
He gave AJ Ferrari a taste of his own medicine, and all was it so sweet.
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Shoebody do bop
It was so poetic.
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Cokeley Brothers
That was so sweet. That was...
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Shoebody do bop
So poetic.
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Shoebody do bop
Just watching AJ just complain to the referee whenever he was getting ridden out.
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Shoebody do bop
It was just like, AJ, do you not understand this is what you do?
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Cokeley Brothers
Dude, then on the backside, on the backside, Joey Novak almost beat AJ.
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Pensylvester
Now he knows.
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Shoebody do bop
This is you.
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Pensylvester
Maybe he won't do it anymore. Well, he did it immediately after that, I guess, so.
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Shoebody do bop
Dude, I mean, how dumb are you? How dumb do you have to be to pick bottom? Just go neutral.
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Pensylvester
Yeah, Mark Branch looks stupid doing that.
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Shoebody do bop
Yeah, dude, that was a bad move.
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Shoebody do bop
i And I knew it too.
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Pensylvester
You saw them.
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Shoebody do bop
I was like, i was like, these dummies are going to pick bottom. They just took them down. They got momentum going and you know what they're going to do? They're going to pick freaking bottom. And that's what they did.
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Pensylvester
When are your coaches going to figure it out?
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Cokeley Brothers
Auto bottom consequence.
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Pensylvester
When are coaches going to figure out to stop picking bottom?
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Shoebody do bop
I don't know. It's not hard, especially when you just literally just took them down.
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Pensylvester
We got to get out of it.
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Shoebody do bop
Literally just took them down.
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Pensylvester
We got to get out of this this auto bottom mindset.
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Cokeley Brothers
Was he the only guy to take him down?
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Cokeley Brothers
That's insane.
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Cokeley Brothers
Not even Miles Amin could take down AJ Ferrari.
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Shoebody do bop
Novak did
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Cokeley Brothers
Joey Novak did.
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Pensylvester
I thought it was like five to four or something. He didn't take him down.
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Cokeley Brothers
I don't think so.
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Cokeley Brothers
I want to say it was an escape, but I want to say it was too oh I want say it was escape right out. I could be wrong.
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Cokeley Brothers
I'll look this up real quick.
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Shoebody do bop
Buchanan definitely didn't take him down Where's AJ Ferrari going?
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Cokeley Brothers
So I do...
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Shoebody do bop
He's in the portal by the way
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Cokeley Brothers
Right. AJ Ferrari is in the portal. I heard that people or two teams that are in the conversation for AJ Ferrari are Penn State and Oklahoma State.
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Shoebody do bop
Along with a slew of others
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Pensylvester
What about Iowa State?
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Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. Well, so you know what made me think about Iowa State?
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Pensylvester
Did you say Penn State?
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Shoebody do bop
No way that either of those teams are looking at AJ Ferrari.
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Cokeley Brothers
People were...
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Pensylvester
Yeah, Oklahoma State is not even an option.
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Shoebody do bop
I call April Fools april fools on that.
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Cokeley Brothers
Dude, hang on.
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Cokeley Brothers
ah Hang on. les so Let me pull up the tweet. i can i Can I pull up the tweet?
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Shoebody do bop
who's Who's tweet?
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Cokeley Brothers
Can I pull the tweet?
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Shoebody do bop
Who's tweet? Who's tweet?
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Cokeley Brothers
Can i Hang on, dude.
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Shoebody do bop
Who's tweet?
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Cokeley Brothers
For the love of God. Stop.
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Shoebody do bop
Who's tweet?
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Cokeley Brothers
Stop it.
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Shoebody do bop
Who is it? Why won't you tell us who this is?
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Cokeley Brothers
I can't. ah Here it is. Here it is. Here it is. Here it is.
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Cokeley Brothers
So it's Pat Mignot. It's Pat Mignot. And he says, no April fools per source, both Penn state and Oklahoma state.
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Shoebody do bop
You know what you're doing right now?
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Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Oklahoma state have been in contact with AJ Ferrari in the portal with several other teams vying for his services.
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Shoebody do bop
No. They're being April fooled.
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Cokeley Brothers
I would expect a decision in the next few weeks.
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Shoebody do bop
They're being April fooled.
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Cokeley Brothers
And the suggestion is heavyweight.
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Pensylvester
He's lying to
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Pensylvester
He's a liar.
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Shoebody do bop
heavyweight Wow.
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Cokeley Brothers
I think he would probably be unstoppable at heavyweight.
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Pensylvester
Just let him go somewhere else. Jesus Christ, Kale and David.
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Shoebody do bop
Excuse me.
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Cokeley Brothers
Dude. It is exhausting, isn't it?
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Cokeley Brothers
Oh, he beat Miles Amin 5-1.
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Pensylvester
Oh, found one.
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Shoebody do bop
Kale and David, why are you guys blaming them?
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Cokeley Brothers
they're on They're on a war path right now.
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Pensylvester
Kale is the Rocco Welsh thing was just like,
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Shoebody do bop
you really think You really think either of them are recruiting AJ Ferrari right now? There's no way. There's no way. There's no way. Sorry, Sam. Sorry, Reese. mean, but there's just no way David Taylor is even allowed to touch AJ Ferrari with a 10 foot pole.
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Pensylvester
that's what I was figuring. I figured Oklahoma state.
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Shoebody do bop
There's no way Oklahoma State's like, yeah, we'll bring this guy back.
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Shoebody do bop
Stillwater.
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Cokeley Brothers
Probably not.
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Shoebody do bop
Stillwater is probably like, yeah, he can't come. Stillwater PD is like, yeah, we'll arrest him.
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Cokeley Brothers
Probably not.
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Pensylvester
He's not loud.
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Shoebody do bop
He hasn't done anything yet. Yeah. For the crimes he will commit.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I wonder. So so here's here's probably here's probably how it's going down.
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Pensylvester
Minority importance ass.
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Cokeley Brothers
ah There's probably a donor who is talking to AJ Ferrari for Oklahoma State. And the donor is just wishfully thinking or something.
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Shoebody do bop
i don't think I don't think any of them are. I don't think anyone is. don't think Kale, David, or any donors from...
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Cokeley Brothers
i don't know.
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Shoebody do bop
I don't think anyone affiliated with either of those schools is seriously talking to AJ Ferrari. I don't believe it.
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Cokeley Brothers
Okay, all right.
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Shoebody do bop
And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
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Cokeley Brothers
So, yeah, I know. So what will you do?
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Shoebody do bop
But I don't believe it.
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Cokeley Brothers
What will you do if he commits to one of those two teams? What will you do for me?
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Pensylvester
Yeah, what are you going to
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Cokeley Brothers
You gonna do the dance?
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Pensylvester
do? You got to do the dance.
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Shoebody do bop
i don't Give me a different dance.
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Pensylvester
Different dance?
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Shoebody do bop
and I'll do a different dance.
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Cokeley Brothers
I don't even have any other dances in my queue.
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Shoebody do bop
Safety dance.
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Cokeley Brothers
I have no idea. Sure. Do the safety dance.
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Shoebody do bop
I'll do the safety.
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Pensylvester
not really a dance.
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Shoebody do bop
I'll do the safety dance from ah from family guy.
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Pensylvester
Oh, it's like too short. It's gotta be longer than that.
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Shoebody do bop
Too short. Up yours.
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Pensylvester
So I was thinking maybe do the Charlie Day dance from, from when he does when, when they, when they do the, no, no, no, no.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. We takes the eyes and.
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Pensylvester
They, where they do the dance off. Um, when they're, when they do the dance for the, where they have to like, they have to keep dancing.
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Shoebody do bop
Talking about it's always sunny in Philadelphia, by the way, folks.
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Pensylvester
where they have to keep dancing to save the bar. It's an earlier one.
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Cokeley Brothers
I don't know that one.
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Pensylvester
And him and Dennis dance off and he does like a ballet thing, but it's not quite long enough. I don't think
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Cokeley Brothers
Interesting.
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Cokeley Brothers
There you go. That's what you ought to do.
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Shoebody do bop
I'll do something.
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Pensylvester
he dances to every or take my breath away.
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Shoebody do bop
I'll do something.
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Cokeley Brothers
Ferrari's in the portal... i So I did think Iowa State was was like, I thought Iowa State it might have been a done deal because Cody Chittum hopped in the portal.
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Shoebody do bop
Who else?
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Cokeley Brothers
And like, Chittum's been run out of two programs now. But he also just kind of seems like a flight risk. What he committed to Minnesota initially, gray-shirted at Iowa, left there, and has now left Iowa State.
00:14:25
Cokeley Brothers
He's going to wrestle for Ohio State, presumably.
00:14:29
Shoebody do bop
Not presumably. He committed.
00:14:36
Cokeley Brothers
Where did he commit?
00:14:39
Shoebody do bop
to Ohio State.
00:14:39
Pensylvester
I saw he committed.
00:14:41
Cokeley Brothers
But where did he announce it?
00:14:44
Pensylvester
I mean, somebody and said it.
00:14:44
Shoebody do bop
I saw it. I saw it on Twitter.
00:14:47
Pensylvester
Probably Maneo.
00:14:50
Shoebody do bop
I believe I also saw it on Instagram.
00:14:55
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it hasn't been confirmed, though.
00:14:56
Shoebody do bop
Check Sleuthical. Check Sleuthical.
00:15:00
Cokeley Brothers
It hasn't been confirmed.
00:15:01
Shoebody do bop
I saw an edit of him in an Ohio State singlet that he had posted.
00:15:03
Pensylvester
I don't think I'm concerned.
00:15:09
Pensylvester
He's going to Ohio State.
00:15:11
Cokeley Brothers
No, there's nothing on his Instagram about that.
00:15:15
Shoebody do bop
Check Twitter.
00:15:16
Cokeley Brothers
So, Ryan, the Ohio State is is from Pat, yes, and it's not confirmed.
00:15:18
Pensylvester
Pat Moneo said it.
00:15:23
Cokeley Brothers
Goodness.
00:15:23
Pensylvester
um michael and
00:15:25
Shoebody do bop
I think it is confirmed.
00:15:25
Cokeley Brothers
It's probably it's just probably where he's going.
00:15:28
Shoebody do bop
think it is.
00:15:30
Cokeley Brothers
You just... Wow, that's crazy.
00:15:33
Cokeley Brothers
Jory Volk just committed or just transferred to Minnesota tonight.
00:15:38
Pensylvester
But is is that one confirmed though?
00:15:38
Cokeley Brothers
That happened.
00:15:41
Pensylvester
Is that confirmed?
00:15:42
Shoebody do bop
So what's Cooper Flynn going to do?
00:15:43
Shoebody do bop
Is he going to, is Cooper Flynn going to go find a new home?
00:15:46
Cokeley Brothers
Cooper Flynn knew what the deal was after he lost to Joey Cruz. Right, Reese?
00:15:53
Pensylvester
He's on the bench. Until further notice.
00:15:57
Pensylvester
Isn't he gone? Is he not done? No.
00:15:59
Cokeley Brothers
I think he was a junior this year.
00:16:04
Pensylvester
Just like Lucas Bird. Somehow. I feel like.
00:16:07
Shoebody do bop
He's the same.
00:16:08
Shoebody do bop
He's the same age as Ventresca.
00:16:08
Pensylvester
I feel like we we talked about this.
00:16:10
Shoebody do bop
Yeah. Birds back one more year.
00:16:12
Pensylvester
I asked if Bird had another year, and you both โ you said no.
00:16:15
Shoebody do bop
I said yes.
00:16:17
Cokeley Brothers
I said no.
00:16:17
Pensylvester
Both of you said no.
00:16:18
Cokeley Brothers
I said no.
00:16:20
Shoebody do bop
i said yes.
00:16:21
Pensylvester
You're a liar.
00:16:22
Shoebody do bop
I've always known.
00:16:22
Pensylvester
How did you know?
00:16:24
Cokeley Brothers
Oh my god.
00:16:24
Shoebody do bop
I've always known.
00:16:27
Pensylvester
Because I feel like when you looked on his bio, it showed that he was a senior.
00:16:28
Cokeley Brothers
That's crazy.
00:16:29
Shoebody do bop
Hey, hey, hey, shut up, Reese. Okay, do me a favor and just shut up. All right. I've always known. He is a senior academically.
00:16:41
Pensylvester
You don't know shit.
00:16:42
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, this is his this is his its seventh year of college.
00:16:43
Shoebody do bop
He'll be a graduate next year.
00:16:51
Shoebody do bop
How? 2020? One, two, three, four, five, oh, yeah, six.
00:17:02
Shoebody do bop
Six equals seven.
00:17:04
Cokeley Brothers
Good job.
00:17:05
Shoebody do bop
Interesting.
00:17:12
Cokeley Brothers
That's crazy.
00:17:13
Shoebody do bop
What's next?
00:17:14
Cokeley Brothers
i didn't realize he was back.
00:17:15
Pensylvester
There's no idea they're going to be good for the thing, especially if they get the rainy boys.
00:17:18
Cokeley Brothers
Illinois is going to be good.
00:17:21
Pensylvester
<unk>re gonna They're going to build some.
00:17:22
Shoebody do bop
ah they Are they getting them for sure?
00:17:24
Shoebody do bop
Is that a thing?
00:17:25
Pensylvester
They're like in their top two.
00:17:28
Cokeley Brothers
Illinois for next season is currently projected at 10th on WrestleStat. They have Bird, Pacino, Webster, Skulls, Chris Moore, who was good at 65 two years ago.
00:17:42
Pensylvester
Yeah, he was good.
00:17:42
Cokeley Brothers
that's kind of That's kind of it, though.
00:17:44
Shoebody do bop
Where are the rainy boys going? 41, 49?
00:17:48
Cokeley Brothers
They should fill out.
00:17:50
Pensylvester
Yeah, I mean, Webster, Scholes more will have some figuring out to do because I don't think Webster is going back to 49.
00:17:50
Shoebody do bop
forty nine fifty seven
00:17:50
Cokeley Brothers
Should they not?
00:18:00
Cokeley Brothers
Well, Chris Moore is at 74.
00:18:02
Pensylvester
Oh, that's right.
00:18:02
Shoebody do bop
Who's Chris Moore?
00:18:02
Cokeley Brothers
So who, 57.
00:18:03
Pensylvester
Scholes was 65.
00:18:05
Shoebody do bop
So we go rainy.
00:18:05
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Skulls is...
00:18:07
Shoebody do bop
We go rainy, rainy, Webster, Skulls.
00:18:09
Pensylvester
Well, they got another year.
00:18:10
Cokeley Brothers
The Rainies are juniors.
00:18:14
Shoebody do bop
Whenever they do get there Sammy, whenever they do get there.
00:18:16
Pensylvester
When did they get there, Sammy? Chill.
00:18:23
Shoebody do bop
Yeah, cuff them.
00:18:23
Pensylvester
Lock him up.
00:18:27
Pensylvester
Put you in jail just like they did
Wrestler Transfers and Team Dynamics
00:18:29
Shoebody do bop
who's They need 25 and 33.
00:18:31
Cokeley Brothers
No, they're... Well, they're going to need... Well, Pacino's gone too. Kalen Riley will still be around. I don't know if he's any good though.
00:18:39
Pensylvester
Danny Pacino?
00:18:43
Pensylvester
We don't talk about Danny Pacino.
00:18:48
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, so... Alright. I would love...
00:18:50
Shoebody do bop
He pinned Sedano and it made Reese cry.
00:18:52
Cokeley Brothers
i would...
00:18:55
Pensylvester
How old is Zidane now? Is he, is he, was he a freshman this year?
00:18:57
Shoebody do bop
je Junior, I believe.
00:18:57
Cokeley Brothers
I think he's a junior.
00:18:59
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. ah He had a little bit of a breakout when he won ACC's.
00:19:06
Shoebody do bop
Yeah, you can draft him next year, Reese, so he can disappoint you again.
00:19:10
Cokeley Brothers
Actually, he might be done. That might have been his senior year.
00:19:14
Shoebody do bop
Never mind, you're safe.
00:19:17
Cokeley Brothers
ah What was I going to say? Oh, I would love to get Chittam on here and just ask him like, hey, what's going on at Iowa State? Terakina left, Redding left, Swiderski left, Chittum left.
00:19:32
Cokeley Brothers
What is happening?
00:19:33
Shoebody do bop
None of them are Cuban.
00:19:33
Pensylvester
It's Brent Metcalf.
00:19:38
Cokeley Brothers
Bruce, what did you say?
00:19:41
Pensylvester
I says Brent Metcalf.
00:19:42
Shoebody do bop
He's blaming, he's blaming Brent Metcalf. I don't see how that's a thing.
00:19:45
Cokeley Brothers
Interesting.
00:19:47
Cokeley Brothers
Interesting.
00:19:47
Pensylvester
Just, just a total, total speculation, wild,
00:19:52
Pensylvester
ah hazardous or a and inflammatory speculation.
00:20:02
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, well, so what they have next year, they...
00:20:02
Shoebody do bop
Would, What do you speculate, Sam?
00:20:08
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, we we talked about last year how they they were going to have problems at the lower weights with just too many guys. And so maybe that's what's happening. A couple of them graduated, and so they're they can move on.
00:20:22
Cokeley Brothers
ah But I think Chittum probably is unhappy. And he's already moved around a lot.
00:20:30
Cokeley Brothers
and he's I don't think he's satisfied with his past two seasons and the results. And i think ah I think there's a chance that Pinero Johnson has been favored within the room, and he is not showing up in the postseason either.
00:20:46
Shoebody do bop
So what are we looking at? We're looking at ah Castillo, Frost, Frost, Echimendia, Pinero for the first five.
00:20:57
Cokeley Brothers
I think so. And then Riggins or Yuten at 65.
00:21:01
Shoebody do bop
Riggins, Gaetan,
00:21:02
Cokeley Brothers
guy Guyton at 74. Naktoboran.
00:21:08
Shoebody do bop
Nakneborin, Sawyer, and then Younger.
00:21:08
Cokeley Brothers
ah Sawyer Bartlett. Nate Sean. And then her younger younger besteed. That'll be a salty team.
00:21:20
Shoebody do bop
be tough.
00:21:22
Cokeley Brothers
Did say we?
00:21:24
Shoebody do bop
I said it'll be tough.
00:21:26
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, good. You can pick one team.
00:21:30
Shoebody do bop
I can choose two.
00:21:31
Cokeley Brothers
One team. One. one
00:21:34
Shoebody do bop
Yeah, because I picked the UNI Panthers this year, too.
00:21:39
Pensylvester
I'll tell you what these, uh, these these Syntakis boys trying to tell us to put our bias, our Kansas bias aside for the Hodge race and explain how Wyatt getting the Hodge makes sense.
00:21:56
Pensylvester
Meanwhile, they have extreme Penn state bias.
00:22:02
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, they are.
00:22:02
Shoebody do bop
The Syntakis, the Syntakis guys do
00:22:02
Cokeley Brothers
They love Penn State.
00:22:08
Shoebody do bop
do? When did they ask that question, though?
00:22:10
Cokeley Brothers
they just They just sent us a message.
00:22:10
Shoebody do bop
When did they...
00:22:11
Cokeley Brothers
They said, Wyatt wins Hodge, Kansas pride aside. What do we think of that? And I said, with all the numbers crunched, it makes sense. And it does. it It really does.
00:22:19
Pensylvester
It would have made sense either way, dude. Either way would have made sense.
00:22:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, there's...
00:22:27
Cokeley Brothers
There's argument for both sides, but the argument that most people refer to for Carter is wrong. Like, yes, he wins five titles. That's awesome. But that has nothing to do with the Hodge Trophy.
00:22:40
Cokeley Brothers
Not anymore.
00:22:41
Pensylvester
but so So, but then like, what do you what do you say?
00:22:41
Cokeley Brothers
It used to, but it doesn't anymore.
00:22:45
Pensylvester
Like, do you do you say Gable Steveson, beating Gable Steveson has a, you know, is a big component of Wyatt winning the Hodge?
00:22:55
Pensylvester
Who, who are we?
00:22:55
Shoebody do bop
Yes, it's the it's no, no, no, it's the component.
00:22:55
Cokeley Brothers
And I think, well, he was the Hodge front runner.
00:23:01
Pensylvester
And Gable Steveson is, ah has a lot of past credentials.
00:23:07
Pensylvester
So do we take those into account or how does that work?
00:23:08
Cokeley Brothers
And I, I think what a lot of people were looking at was his dominance and how he didn't see the third period until ah Nick Feldman. And he, and he had, he had one, he had,
00:23:19
Pensylvester
but he's so what he had He wrestled the whole match with Treffen, didn't he?
00:23:24
Cokeley Brothers
But prior, like in the, in the regular season, he was like, he was pinning and teching everybody.
00:23:24
Shoebody do bop
He's talking about, he's talking about regular season race.
00:23:26
Pensylvester
Not in the regular season.
00:23:28
Shoebody do bop
Yeah. Hey Reese.
00:23:29
Cokeley Brothers
he gets a major against Nick Feldman.
00:23:30
Shoebody do bop
Hey Reese. Reese, pull your head out of your ass. Would you?
00:23:34
Cokeley Brothers
His first decision win was against Kirk fleet. And it was nearly a major who Kirk fleet was, uh, the number two guy in the country at the, at, at the time. And so it was, it was utter dominance, uh,
00:23:48
Cokeley Brothers
And then he goes out and loses and to a guy who also has shown utter dominance throughout the year. So I would, I would, well, so this is ah my next sentence was going to be, I would put Gable and Parker for this season alone at relative comparison with one another, maybe give a little bit of an advantage to Gable, but I don't know, considering the quality of competition.
00:23:54
Pensylvester
Parker wasn't utterly dominant.
00:24:16
Cokeley Brothers
And so with that,
00:24:16
Pensylvester
And Carter beat Parker twice.
00:24:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. I don't know if you can can, if you can actually look at the, right.
00:24:22
Pensylvester
People do. I mean, why wouldn't you count it? Why wouldn't you include it?
00:24:26
Cokeley Brothers
But then at that point it's like, well, why wouldn't you include the previous seasons?
00:24:31
Pensylvester
Because they were at the previous seasons and this match happened during this season.
00:24:34
Shoebody do bop
You guys, you guys, listen. Here's the answer. The answer is clear. Okay.
00:24:41
Shoebody do bop
Carter Sirachi did not win the Hodge because people just don't like him.
00:24:46
Pensylvester
I think that's probably what it was too. Yeah.
00:24:49
Cokeley Brothers
yeah that That is the thing that i mentioned where
00:24:53
Shoebody do bop
That's, I mean, that' that's just what it is.
00:24:54
Cokeley Brothers
Carter has shown that he wants to be a heel to some degree. And being the heel does not win you the Hodge Trophy.
00:25:01
Shoebody do bop
The stats are that close, you know, and when the stats are that close, you got to rely on the people.
00:25:02
Pensylvester
right. Bo Nickel knew this, and that's how he suckered everybody into giving him the hodge over Jason Nolfe wrongfully.
00:25:06
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Bo Nickel knew it so much. he bo He knew it so well that he he made himself...
00:25:17
Cokeley Brothers
Looked like a dick with how he was helping people.
00:25:20
Pensylvester
Yeah, he did look like a dick, but people don't see it. People weren't seeing it that way.
00:25:24
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, dude, the way he helped his... the I think it was a guy from Buffalo. He like picked him up by the hips. Don't do that.
00:25:38
Shoebody do bop
Why not, Sam?
00:25:40
Cokeley Brothers
Don't do that.
00:25:41
Shoebody do bop
Sammy, why not?
00:25:41
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan, if you got pinned by somebody and they picked her from the hips, are you not going to throw hands?
00:25:48
Cokeley Brothers
There we go.
00:25:49
Cokeley Brothers
All right. We understand.
00:25:53
Shoebody do bop
No comment.
00:25:53
Cokeley Brothers
Now, now what Wyatt Hendrickson does is when he sees Isaac Trumbull struggling to put weight on his leg, he says, I'm going to go help him. And he doesn't force himself into the position, but he says, he says like, he says like Isaac, I'm here for you.
00:26:08
Shoebody do bop
So what are you saying?
00:26:09
Cokeley Brothers
That's cool.
00:26:09
Shoebody do bop
What are you saying Bo Nickel did? He forced himself on people?
00:26:12
Cokeley Brothers
I'm saying
00:26:13
Cokeley Brothers
ah he did.
00:26:15
Shoebody do bop
Is that what you're saying?
00:26:15
Pensylvester
ah stay yes I in a bunch of people.
00:26:16
Cokeley Brothers
And you know what? You know what, Ryan? Maybe that's the type of dominance that we need to be looking for in the sport. Yeah.
00:26:33
Shoebody do bop
I want you guys to excuse my younger brother, my youngest brother here.
00:26:38
Cokeley Brothers
for what? It's funny.
00:26:42
Shoebody do bop
or speaking out of character.
00:26:45
Cokeley Brothers
Out of turn? Shut up.
00:26:46
Shoebody do bop
No character.
00:26:47
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. i yeah if dude, really.
00:26:50
Shoebody do bop
was definitely your turn to be speaking, so.
00:26:51
Cokeley Brothers
if if If Carter or Wyatt won the Hodge, great. If if Mitchell wins it, what's happening? But also, whatever.
00:27:04
Cokeley Brothers
it's It's the Hodge trophy. It's cool, but it's not...
00:27:06
Pensylvester
No, I would have been wrong if Mitchell won it for sure.
00:27:10
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. 165 was...
00:27:11
Shoebody do bop
Who's going to win it next year?
00:27:14
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, let's put our let's put our um money down now.
00:27:21
Cokeley Brothers
Mitchell.
00:27:22
Pensylvester
Yeah, it's hard to say anyone other than Mitchell.
00:27:23
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, Mitchell.
00:27:26
Cokeley Brothers
It's going to be Mitchell.
00:27:28
Shoebody do bop
What about Angelo Ferrari?
00:27:30
Cokeley Brothers
He's a Ferrari. Won't happen.
00:27:32
Pensylvester
He won't score enough.
00:27:34
Cokeley Brothers
He also wrestles for Iowa.
00:27:37
Pensylvester
They don't win Hodge trophies there.
00:27:39
Shoebody do bop
Spencer Lee.
00:27:39
Cokeley Brothers
Unless you're Spencer Lee.
00:27:39
Pensylvester
And if they do, they have to split it.
00:27:42
Shoebody do bop
He won one out, right?
00:27:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, he did.
00:27:46
Cokeley Brothers
Did they both win one outright?
00:27:49
Cokeley Brothers
And then did Mason Paris win a Hodge?
00:27:52
Shoebody do bop
Yes. he That was probably the year Carter should have won it.
00:27:56
Cokeley Brothers
i was I was looking back on it in my mind. and I'm like, that's because. Yeah, it was Gable and Spencer for Carter's first two. And then it was Mason Paris.
00:28:08
Shoebody do bop
Mason won it over Carter.
00:28:13
Shoebody do bop
He also won it over Yanni, who got some votes, even though Yanni didn't win it, basically because he got beat by Gomez.
00:28:21
Cokeley Brothers
No, that wasn't Yanni's senior year, was it?
00:28:24
Cokeley Brothers
It was? Oh, well then, yeah, if you have a loss, you have a loss.
00:28:29
Shoebody do bop
Well, but it was it was his fourth one, though.
00:28:31
Cokeley Brothers
that's no That's number one criteria.
00:28:34
Cokeley Brothers
yeah Single season. God damn it, Ryan. 2022. 2022.
00:28:38
Pensylvester
Was it a single season?
00:28:39
Pensylvester
Did they, didn't they specify that?
00:28:41
Shoebody do bop
Steve basically won it.
00:28:41
Cokeley Brothers
twenty twenty two
00:28:43
Shoebody do bop
Hey, hey, Steve won it basically because
00:28:48
Cokeley Brothers
2022 was the, was the year that they changed it from, from the seven criteria system, which included past accomplishments before to four criteria system.
00:28:50
Shoebody do bop
because of his fourth.
00:28:50
Pensylvester
Didn't they change it? Oh, okay.
00:29:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. So that is why they explained it on the, they did the presentation on flow and they explained why they simplified it.
00:29:01
Shoebody do bop
Why'd they do that? Same.
00:29:09
Cokeley Brothers
Um, they kind of merged some things because some things felt a little repetitive, uh,
00:29:14
Shoebody do bop
Why did they make it single season?
00:29:16
Cokeley Brothers
They wanted to make it more replicable to the Heisman, I believe, is it was one of the ideas.
00:29:19
Shoebody do bop
Okay. that's what i That's kind of what I figured, but I wanted to i wanted to hear it out of your mouth.
00:29:26
Pensylvester
Pretty little mouth.
00:29:26
Cokeley Brothers
You got it out of my mouth.
00:29:36
Cokeley Brothers
So that's Hodge.
00:29:39
Pensylvester
Yeah, we got that out of the way.
00:29:40
Shoebody do bop
Mess and break for Hodge next year, huh?
00:29:40
Cokeley Brothers
I'm kind of surprised it didn't get split. Yeah, Mezenbrink for Hodge.
00:29:45
Pensylvester
Yeah, I guess.
00:29:48
Cokeley Brothers
Because neither neither of the Ferraris would get it. And...
00:29:53
Shoebody do bop
25. What about Luke Lilladol?
00:29:56
Cokeley Brothers
Jesse Mendez could.
00:30:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Jesse Mendez could. Ryan Kirkham doesn't dominate his opponents.
00:30:03
Shoebody do bop
He won't though. you know You know why Mendez won't?
00:30:08
Cokeley Brothers
Because of the party hardy, baby.
00:30:10
Shoebody do bop
Because Mendez loves to take L's. It's the only way he takes Debs is by taking L's.
00:30:16
Cokeley Brothers
Takes two L's, turns them into a dub. You go bop, bop, bop.
00:30:25
Shoebody do bop
That was cheesy.
00:30:26
Cokeley Brothers
Not a...
00:30:26
Shoebody do bop
That was corny as hell. Ten push-ups.
00:30:31
Shoebody do bop
Ten corny push-ups, please. Why is mom calling me? Yeah.
00:30:38
Pensylvester
You obviously ah in trouble.
00:30:47
Pensylvester
Answer Put her on speakerphone.
00:30:53
Pensylvester
You didn't answer Is that what you do every time she tries to call you? You just look at it for a while and you're like, nah.
00:31:01
Shoebody do bop
She hung up.
00:31:09
Cokeley Brothers
No, I don't think Luke Will at all will get it because I don't think he will have a full, a complete season. I don't think he'll win every single match.
00:31:17
Cokeley Brothers
125 is too inconsistent. No, i think I think he will have a loss somewhere in there. 125 is too too much. just is.
00:31:17
Pensylvester
you don't think you're going play this season?
00:31:29
Cokeley Brothers
He lost to Sheldon Seymour.
00:31:33
Pensylvester
Oh, well. Yeah.
00:31:38
Cokeley Brothers
okay that's that we are gonna do some sessions at some point that might have to be the next episode we do i have to look back on the previous stuff huh
00:31:45
Shoebody do bop
We have to decide those.
00:31:49
Shoebody do bop
am I that's here and said, which one am I going to argue the hardest to this year?
00:31:57
Cokeley Brothers
did you did you went hard last year but apparently apparently people love to see argument so it'll be a good one i guess
00:32:02
Shoebody do bop
that was right.
00:32:07
Shoebody do bop
Good thing. Good thing. ah Good thing we gave it to Meyer, Loyal Meyer, and not ah Betrayal Welsh. welsh
00:32:18
Shoebody do bop
Michael Walsh.
00:32:18
Pensylvester
Record Rash.
00:32:22
Shoebody do bop
Reesh. Reesh.
00:32:24
Cokeley Brothers
do you Do you guys have...
00:32:28
Cokeley Brothers
Does it freak you out at all?
00:32:31
Cokeley Brothers
Like, how much is at Penn State right now?
00:32:36
Shoebody do bop
Why would it? I mean, freak out is.
00:32:37
Cokeley Brothers
think ah Think about this.
00:32:37
Pensylvester
That's annoying. It's real freaky.
00:32:39
Cokeley Brothers
Think about this.
00:32:40
Shoebody do bop
Yeah, annoying.
00:32:40
Cokeley Brothers
They got Ono and Welsh in a
00:32:41
Shoebody do bop
Thank you, Reesh.
00:32:42
Cokeley Brothers
they got ono and welsh in a week
00:32:52
Shoebody do bop
Sorry, mom is asking me.
00:32:54
Pensylvester
I'm over it.
00:32:56
Cokeley Brothers
What does that even mean? What do you mean you're over it?
00:32:59
Pensylvester
I don't care anymore.
00:33:01
Cokeley Brothers
We have to deal with it for the next four years.
00:33:01
Pensylvester
They're ruining it. They're ruining everything. I don't care.
00:33:03
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Okay. So that, that's what sucks though. Is it, I, I get, i get that if you're a good wrestler and you want to go there to be great,
00:33:08
Pensylvester
Makes me not care. Makes me want turn my brain off.
00:33:18
Cokeley Brothers
I get it, but it sucks that we get a situation where guys like Zack Ryder and Rocco Welsh are on the are fighting for the same spot when they're probably both able to place in the top four.
00:33:32
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, that sucks.
00:33:34
Shoebody do bop
Yeah, you're taking away from from us, the fans.
00:33:38
Cokeley Brothers
The sport. Take away from the sport.
00:33:40
Shoebody do bop
Well, I'm going to just say the fans.
00:33:40
Cokeley Brothers
That sucks.
00:33:44
Cokeley Brothers
this Which is the sport. if Without the fans, there is no sport.
00:33:53
Shoebody do bop
If you say so.
00:33:55
Cokeley Brothers
And then here's my other thing. here's my This is a little little bit of a tin hat question.
00:34:00
Pensylvester
the fact The fact that Rocco also was like earlier in the season, I'm a book guy. Why would I ever leave? Because I'm a book guy
00:34:08
Shoebody do bop
he changed He obviously had a change to change the heart, Reese.
00:34:08
Pensylvester
And he left.
00:34:11
Pensylvester
Yeah, but there were rumors going around you know about him transferring. And he's like, no, you're all stupid because I'm a book guy for life.
00:34:19
Shoebody do bop
Well, at the time, at the time you were done you were dumb for thinking he was leaving.
00:34:20
Cokeley Brothers
Wait a minute.
00:34:23
Shoebody do bop
But now you're not dumb. Now you're smart for thinking
00:34:25
Cokeley Brothers
Wait, no and no, no, no, no. He was actually considering this in December.
00:34:30
Cokeley Brothers
He was actually considering it. And then his response, his tweet to say, ah I'm a Buckeyes because he had a conversation with the coaches and he he settled. It's like, I'm going to stick around. And then he stuck around.
00:34:40
Pensylvester
Is this true?
00:34:40
Cokeley Brothers
And yes, that this so that this was explained on his interview with Bash.
00:34:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. um
00:34:48
Shoebody do bop
So what did he not like at Ohio State?
00:34:48
Cokeley Brothers
And then he stuck around. And after, I don't know that, that they did obviously not going to get into the details of that.
00:34:54
Shoebody do bop
That's stupid.
00:34:55
Cokeley Brothers
Or like when he decided, you know what, I'm not going to do this anymore. Did he love sitting behind a guy who ultimately went oh and two
00:35:05
Cokeley Brothers
Probably not.
00:35:06
Pensylvester
So they shouldn't have redshirted him.
00:35:09
Shoebody do bop
Yeah, why did they redshirt him? I didn't understand that.
00:35:12
Pensylvester
Yeah. Kids do not like being red shirted anymore.
00:35:15
Cokeley Brothers
Not anymore.
00:35:15
Shoebody do bop
couldn't they Couldn't they have red-shirted Rogotsky?
00:35:16
Cokeley Brothers
No, not these days.
00:35:22
Cokeley Brothers
think so. Yeah. Pretty sure.
00:35:27
Pensylvester
Or did you read your last year?
00:35:29
Shoebody do bop
No, he wrestled last year.
00:35:29
Cokeley Brothers
He started last year.
00:35:39
Shoebody do bop
I have no chill.
00:35:39
Cokeley Brothers
i was going to ask... Oh yeah. Tin hat. Tin hat. Conspiracy theory. No evidence behind this. Except for one thing. I think the guys at Penn State are getting paid pretty pretty well.
00:35:51
Cokeley Brothers
And now most people talk about...
00:35:53
Pensylvester
It's pretty well. Give me a number.
00:35:55
Cokeley Brothers
Well, people so the numbers get dropped for the Penn State wrestlers.
00:35:58
Shoebody do bop
Blaze is in the millions.
00:36:01
Cokeley Brothers
Right. And so so people were freaking out about Nasir Bailey and Jordan Williams, who didn't place this last year, getting $300,000 each reportedly from Iowa.
00:36:13
Cokeley Brothers
Now, those are going to be solid additions to their lineup, and the Iowa lineup is starting to to finalize from that. I'm sure guys that are in the lineup at Penn State are getting paid within the same range, if not higher.
00:36:27
Cokeley Brothers
Carter Starachi flat out said when somebody asked who the highest paid wrestler is, he said, me and it's not close, which means Penn State has to have money.
00:36:38
Shoebody do bop
Was he just saying that, though, just to be Carter?
00:36:39
Pensylvester
Obviously they have money. What's the, what's the dollar amounts? That's what I want to know.
00:36:43
Cokeley Brothers
Right. So, yeah, that's why it's a little bit of a theory.
00:36:44
Pensylvester
How do they not, why does that shit not leak?
00:36:48
Cokeley Brothers
They're airtight, dude. Clearly, they're cultish with their information.
00:36:50
Shoebody do bop
Yeah, dude. Dude, Mineo leaked their WrestleOff results earlier in the year.
00:36:52
Cokeley Brothers
It's insane.
00:36:56
Cokeley Brothers
and he almost got killed.
00:36:58
Shoebody do bop
Yeah, he had to take them down. He never takes anything down. He took that stuff down.
00:37:06
Shoebody do bop
I lost a lot of respect for Pat that day.
00:37:06
Cokeley Brothers
So maybe they were like, take it down or we're never giving you leaks ever again.
00:37:09
Shoebody do bop
and the very The very little I had, I mean.
00:37:14
Pensylvester
They need to organize a coup and somehow get Kale transferred from Penn State to Lockheaven.
00:37:22
Cokeley Brothers
I want to get him transferred from Penn state to, uh,
00:37:25
Shoebody do bop
what if he just does What if he just does the same thing?
00:37:28
Pensylvester
Shanghai him to Lockheaven. Yes, that's fine, but just do it.
00:37:30
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, if he did that at Lockhaven, that would be sick.
00:37:32
Pensylvester
Shanghai him to Lockheaven. Yeah. He'll just make it so that one day he's...
00:37:35
Shoebody do bop
but if all of his What if all of his athletes just followed him?
00:37:39
Pensylvester
One day he's coaching in the room and then the next day he wakes up and he's just on a train to Lockhaven.
00:37:48
Cokeley Brothers
Nobody's speaking English.
00:37:51
Cokeley Brothers
so He doesn't understand what's going on.
00:37:53
Pensylvester
hasnt He has no โ none of his items are with him.
00:37:55
Cokeley Brothers
The clothes that he's wearing aren't his...
00:37:56
Pensylvester
He is โ yeah. He's very confused.
00:38:00
Cokeley Brothers
He has hair.
00:38:05
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, yeah, it would be awesome if Kale Sanderson just kind of went around like Santa Claus and just gifted all the programs with some benevolence, you know?
00:38:15
Cokeley Brothers
Wouldn't that be nice? 2021.
00:38:18
Shoebody do bop
everyone should
00:38:18
Pensylvester
Stop trying to win so hard, bro.
00:38:19
Shoebody do bop
Everyone should win on their own merit like Iowa did.
00:38:24
Pensylvester
Like Iowa did.
00:38:26
Cokeley Brothers
twenty twenty one
00:38:29
Cokeley Brothers
Like Ohio State did.
00:38:30
Pensylvester
Well, Bo Bassett hopefully can do something for those boys.
00:38:33
Shoebody do bop
like't know that That year they had not maybe not some benevolence, but definitely some mercy from kale in 2015. Mercy. Mercy.
00:38:41
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, for Ohio State? Yeah, because they had he had a bunch of bunch of bullets in the chamber.
00:38:44
Shoebody do bop
mercy You know what's crazy? you look at You look at that team and you're like, man, if if a few things go differently here in this match or that match, and yeah, dude, they have won that tournament still.
00:38:53
Cokeley Brothers
They win that. Yeah. Yeah, it was freaky. I remember this because it's like, oh yeah, Penn State's not race. And then after like session three, I was like, uh-oh. Penn State's still around.
00:39:04
Shoebody do bop
Bum, bum, bum, bum.
00:39:06
Cokeley Brothers
Pretty much.
00:39:08
Pensylvester
And then they took fourth.
00:39:09
Cokeley Brothers
ah Okay, some other notable names in the portal.
00:39:14
Pensylvester
Or fifth. Did they take fourth or fifth?
00:39:18
Pensylvester
They took sixth.
00:39:21
Cokeley Brothers
Dean Peterson. Ryan, is he going to Iowa? Yeah.
00:39:24
Shoebody do bop
i heard Minnesota was on him, but I guess if folks go into Minnesota, I also heard a Nebraska might be on Dean Peterson.
00:39:34
Cokeley Brothers
Really, even with Lauritsen.
00:39:38
Shoebody do bop
Just what I hear.
00:39:39
Cokeley Brothers
Interesting. Interesting.
00:39:43
Cokeley Brothers
Spencer Moore is in the portal, but he is reportedly going to Presbyterian.
00:39:47
Shoebody do bop
What do you guys think of Gary Steen going to Oklahoma State?
00:39:52
Cokeley Brothers
Just going to hang out with David Taylor and company.
00:39:54
Shoebody do bop
Is that really... He's just transferring just to be a backup on a different team?
00:39:59
Pensylvester
what's, what's Bradley next year, a junior or senior?
00:40:05
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I don't think Steen has the steam to take out Spratly.
00:40:11
Shoebody do bop
Steen maybe thinking he's 33?
00:40:15
Cokeley Brothers
even Even then, they have Rin Sakamoto and Kale Hughes and Sergio Vega.
00:40:20
Shoebody do bop
Kale's going up to 41.
00:40:20
Pensylvester
Well, he is not going 33.
00:40:22
Shoebody do bop
Yeah, Kale's going up to 41.
00:40:24
Cokeley Brothers
Sergio Vega, my bad. Not Kale Hughes.
00:40:27
Shoebody do bop
Vega, so Vega, what, he's going to be 33 for one year?
00:40:33
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, how much longer does Gary Steen have
00:40:34
Shoebody do bop
Maybe. I'm just saying, i don't think Vega's going make 33.
00:40:38
Pensylvester
don't Don't make Sergio cut to 33. That's crazy.
00:40:41
Shoebody do bop
Yeah, it's huge.
00:40:41
Cokeley Brothers
but that's That's just the projection that I've been seeing.
00:40:46
Shoebody do bop
That projection's wrong.
00:40:48
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Sorry.
00:40:49
Shoebody do bop
Kids humongous.
00:40:52
Cokeley Brothers
I'm stupid. My bad.
00:40:54
Shoebody do bop
Well, I'm not going to say that, but you are special.
00:40:55
Pensylvester
ah No, he only calls me a dumbass.
00:41:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, Steen is a senior.
00:41:01
Shoebody do bop
Sammy's special.
00:41:02
Cokeley Brothers
This is Steen's last year.
00:41:02
Shoebody do bop
Reese is a dumbass.
00:41:06
Cokeley Brothers
And at 133, they have Zach Blankenship... they have zach blankenship And we just said Kale Hughes, but he's reportedly going up. JJ McComas, Ren Sakamoto, Caden Perler, who is, I believe, like the nephew of...
00:41:17
Pensylvester
Another guy who I'm like, can he really make 33? Who? 49 57. so
00:41:23
Shoebody do bop
Nick? Is it Nick's kid?
00:41:25
Cokeley Brothers
I think... ah It might not... I don't know. I think so. I don't know. And Sergio is is listed as 41.
00:41:31
Shoebody do bop
It's not Tony's.
00:41:40
Cokeley Brothers
Here's my question. Tegan Jameson. 41 or 49? Because 41 Swiderski.
00:41:45
Pensylvester
forty nine or fifty seven
00:41:45
Shoebody do bop
i heard he might be moving up.
00:41:51
Shoebody do bop
Reese, that's Teague Travis.
00:41:55
Pensylvester
49 and 57 is, he's not going 41 anymore. That's for sure.
00:41:59
Shoebody do bop
Teague and Jameson.
00:42:02
Shoebody do bop
So what's Swiderski doing?
00:42:02
Cokeley Brothers
so it's it's gonna
00:42:05
Pensylvester
We don't know.
00:42:06
Cokeley Brothers
forty one forty one sodesky
00:42:08
Shoebody do bop
is that Is that a fact?
00:42:10
Cokeley Brothers
That's what he's listed as.
00:42:11
Shoebody do bop
Because let me tell you something.
00:42:13
Shoebody do bop
Motherfucker is huge. Even at 49. Humongous. Giant.
00:42:17
Pensylvester
That's what I thought.
00:42:18
Shoebody do bop
He's big.
00:42:20
Cokeley Brothers
He can shrink.
00:42:23
Cokeley Brothers
You want it bad enough, you'll shrink. And I think Casey wants it.
00:42:28
Pensylvester
DT is having a hard time getting ah clearing out, cleaning out, exercising, ah getting rid of the whole stigma, the culture at Oklahoma State, the weight cutting culture.
00:42:28
Shoebody do bop
I'm just saying.
00:42:43
Pensylvester
He's having a hard time getting rid of that.
00:42:45
Cokeley Brothers
I was trying to figure out where you were going with that. I i hear you now.
00:42:47
Shoebody do bop
Yeah, me too.
00:42:47
Pensylvester
Yeah, I couldn't think of the right word.
00:42:47
Shoebody do bop
I was so confused. Pencil Vester.
00:42:51
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, they have they have so many guys coming in this next year.
00:42:59
Shoebody do bop
No, Pencil Vester.
00:43:03
Cokeley Brothers
Ronnie Ramirez, Caden Perler, Sergio Vega, Bo Hickman, Landon Rabideau, Cody Rootledge, Ishmael Guerrero, Ladarian Lockett, Ethan Teague, Cruz Goff, cruise golf in Austin Johnson.
00:43:15
Shoebody do bop
Hey, where is, uh, what way is, um,
00:43:16
Cokeley Brothers
Did I say Rabideau? Rabideau.
00:43:23
Shoebody do bop
Say those names again.
00:43:24
Cokeley Brothers
Ladarian?
00:43:25
Shoebody do bop
No. Say those names again.
00:43:26
Cokeley Brothers
Guerrero.
00:43:28
Shoebody do bop
No. Ronnie.
00:43:29
Cokeley Brothers
Rutledge.
00:43:31
Shoebody do bop
What way is he going?
00:43:33
Cokeley Brothers
It says 125. Why? Really? Really?
00:43:38
Shoebody do bop
ah kids That kid's going to be good.
00:43:40
Pensylvester
Where's he from?
00:43:43
Shoebody do bop
He's from California.
00:43:46
Shoebody do bop
He just beat that Nate Desmond at the ah Pittsburgh Classic.
00:43:49
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, is that? Yeah.
00:43:53
Shoebody do bop
He was also the kid that was winning in the quarterfinals at California State and then got decked in a cradle.
00:44:00
Shoebody do bop
That was Ronnie.
00:44:02
Pensylvester
He got decked.
00:44:05
Cokeley Brothers
I remember this.
00:44:08
Cokeley Brothers
Beep boop.
00:44:08
Pensylvester
Jimmy, do you know Max Shaw was sitting behind us at NCAAs?
00:44:12
Pensylvester
Did you hear that?
00:44:12
Cokeley Brothers
You told me about that. I didn't know that that was the case.
00:44:16
Cokeley Brothers
Otherwise, I've been like, Mad. Mad Dog. Why don't you hop on the pod?
00:44:20
Pensylvester
up on the podcast.
00:44:21
Cokeley Brothers
don't you have a seat?
00:44:22
Shoebody do bop
Why? as he cool?
00:44:25
Pensylvester
Well, he just got a big win.
00:44:25
Cokeley Brothers
What do you mean, why? Yeah, and he's cool.
00:44:29
Shoebody do bop
Who's his big one?
00:44:32
Shoebody do bop
Oh, he'd be Zepeda. I only saw the Ronnie Ramirez, Nate Desmond result.
00:44:39
Cokeley Brothers
Zepeda might not Zepan out in college.
00:44:43
Pensylvester
Oh, come on.
00:44:43
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:44:44
Pensylvester
You can't say that after those matches he's had with Bassett.
00:44:48
Pensylvester
I feel like.
00:44:51
Shoebody do bop
Zepeda's going fine, dude.
00:44:51
Cokeley Brothers
i don't know what to think yet.
00:44:52
Pensylvester
Unless, i mean, unless Bo was just making them close for the, for the fans.
00:44:53
Cokeley Brothers
<unk>t know what to think yet.
00:44:53
Shoebody do bop
He'll be fine.
00:44:59
Shoebody do bop
Yeah, I don't think Bo's that kind of guy.
00:45:00
Cokeley Brothers
I think...
00:45:03
Pensylvester
Probably not.
00:45:04
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. I don't know.
00:45:08
Cokeley Brothers
He should.
00:45:08
Pensylvester
What do you know?
00:45:10
Shoebody do bop
Shoe bop.
00:45:11
Cokeley Brothers
I know that we should probably wrap this up.
00:45:14
Pensylvester
Where is he going?
00:45:14
Cokeley Brothers
Unless we got something else to talk about.
00:45:20
Cokeley Brothers
Nancy State.
00:45:21
Shoebody do bop
Indy State.
00:45:25
Pensylvester
They're pretty good.
00:45:30
Shoebody do bop
let's talk about the guys that are going to Iowa. we you I mean, we only touched on that.
00:45:34
Shoebody do bop
Why why don't why don't we talk about a little more? Ian
00:45:37
Cokeley Brothers
Williams and Bailey.
00:45:39
Pensylvester
Did you say Bailey didn't place this year?
00:45:39
Shoebody do bop
Peterson.
00:45:41
Pensylvester
I thought he did.
00:45:43
Shoebody do bop
No, Bailey did not.
00:45:46
Cokeley Brothers
Nasir went like two and two.
00:45:46
Shoebody do bop
They had Steven Little and Matty Bianchi.
00:45:50
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, correct. Okay, eligibility breakdown. So Nasir Bailey. So the lineup, we don't know. We don't have ah Dean Peterson confirm confirmed.
00:46:01
Pensylvester
Williams is never AA'd, right?
00:46:04
Cokeley Brothers
And no, Williams is not ever A8 either.
00:46:07
Cokeley Brothers
So Nasir Bailey has a red shirt. He can slot in at 33 after a l is gone, or he can wrestle 41 right away. 125, they might...
00:46:17
Shoebody do bop
Or he can slide in at 33 right away if Iola's not there anymore.
00:46:23
Cokeley Brothers
Do you think Iowa's going to leave?
00:46:25
Shoebody do bop
It's a possibility.
00:46:26
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think Iowa's going to leave.
00:46:28
Shoebody do bop
I'm just saying it can happen.
00:46:30
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. let's Let's start from the bottom. Either Dean Peterson is going to show up and wrestle for Iowa, or it's probably going to be Leo DeLuca.
00:46:43
Shoebody do bop
I heard Leo wants to redshirt.
00:46:43
Pensylvester
on If he wants to redshirt, he's redshirted then.
00:46:49
Cokeley Brothers
Is that the... Is Iowa the team that normally redshirts?
00:46:53
Pensylvester
Only one guy ever not redshirted.
00:46:56
Shoebody do bop
Well, that's not true.
00:46:57
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. And...
00:46:58
Pensylvester
That's it, one guy.
00:47:00
Pensylvester
And Miguel Estrada.
00:47:03
Cokeley Brothers
And Assad.
00:47:04
Shoebody do bop
It's Spencer Lee.
00:47:06
Pensylvester
Oh yeah, Abisad.
00:47:06
Cokeley Brothers
That was the one guy who we were talking about, Ryan.
00:47:10
Shoebody do bop
No, it's more than one.
00:47:12
Cokeley Brothers
Because of the other ones we listed.
00:47:12
Pensylvester
Abisad, Spencer Lee, who else?
00:47:17
Pensylvester
Miguel Estrada. Throw him throw out though.
00:47:21
Shoebody do bop
Anyway Anyway Anyway
00:47:21
Cokeley Brothers
Not even Angelo Ferrari could get past that.
00:47:22
Pensylvester
He didn't actually start.
00:47:26
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, so so whoever they have at 25, Drake Ayala might be sticking around, might be leaving, I guess. I don't know. Nasir Bailey, 33, 41. i would like to see him at 41.
00:47:36
Shoebody do bop
They'd have been better off just you wrestling Estrada Instead of Teamer Just saying
00:47:44
Shoebody do bop
hundred percent
00:47:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, correct.
00:47:44
Shoebody do bop
100%. You burned his red shirt.
00:47:45
Cokeley Brothers
Correct. Well, I mean, yeah, Timur went 0-2, so you can't get much worse than that.
00:47:46
Shoebody do bop
should have just wrestled him.
00:47:49
Pensylvester
have just paid for him to transfer there and then not wrestled him.
00:47:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. Should have gave him... Anyway. Isn't it crazy that Victor Voinovich and Jordan Williams are back on a team together?
00:48:03
Shoebody do bop
Sometimes that's how it works.
00:48:06
Pensylvester
Especially now.
00:48:07
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, that's... So I did think to myself, AJ Ferrari's in the transfer portal.
00:48:11
Pensylvester
What a wonderful world.
00:48:13
Cokeley Brothers
Cody Chittum left Iowa State. AJ Ferrari's going to Iowa State. And he's just constantly on the run from the Ferraris.
00:48:21
Shoebody do bop
Could be. what about um
00:48:23
Cokeley Brothers
But anyway.
00:48:25
Shoebody do bop
What about Victor Vanovic maybe hopping back in the portal and going Ohio State?
00:48:31
Cokeley Brothers
And our son in place of D'Amelio.
00:48:35
Shoebody do bop
Or do they have someone ready to step in at 49 right away?
00:48:38
Cokeley Brothers
I think I think they might have somebody. ah wonder if Cannon can go back down to 49.
00:48:45
Shoebody do bop
He's a mighty big. 41. 41.
00:48:47
Cokeley Brothers
Do you know what he started? You know what he wrestled last year at, Correct.
00:48:50
Shoebody do bop
forty one
00:48:51
Cokeley Brothers
Correct.
00:48:54
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think he's too big for 49.
00:48:58
Pensylvester
I heard he was good go down.
00:48:59
Cokeley Brothers
149. Oh, well, Reese, who did you say earlier?
00:49:05
Pensylvester
Can you go down?
00:49:07
Cokeley Brothers
He got a big win.
00:49:09
Shoebody do bop
Maddox Shaw.
00:49:12
Pensylvester
What about him?
00:49:13
Cokeley Brothers
Ohio State.
00:49:17
Cokeley Brothers
So he could be their 49-pounder.
00:49:18
Shoebody do bop
Is he going 49?
00:49:21
Cokeley Brothers
so this Ohio State's got Kilcarrie and McCrone at 25, Ben DeVino and Buzekas at 33, Mendez at 41, Maddox at 49, or Gavin Brown.
00:49:31
Pensylvester
Or Mendez goes up to 49. Or
00:49:36
Shoebody do bop
I heard Bousakis is leaving.
00:49:39
Pensylvester
Buzakas leaves.
00:49:39
Cokeley Brothers
going to Pitt.
00:49:40
Pensylvester
Or he goes 125.
00:49:41
Cokeley Brothers
He's going to go to Pitt.
00:49:43
Cokeley Brothers
That's not going to happen.
00:49:44
Shoebody do bop
That would be a huge cut.
00:49:46
Cokeley Brothers
That's insane. Brandon Cannon at 57. I guess Brock Herman's leaving and there's a little bit of...
00:49:51
Shoebody do bop
How is Kilcari just not their guy at 25? That's what I don't understand.
00:49:55
Pensylvester
yeah how is McCrone beating Kilcary?
00:49:56
Cokeley Brothers
Macron had a bad year.
00:49:59
Pensylvester
get bad year?
00:50:00
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, he had a pretty solid start and he got a pin over Luke Lillardal. He just did not put it all together for the postseason.
00:50:08
Pensylvester
No, talking McCrone.
00:50:10
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Dude, yeah. Kill Curie got a win over Spencer Moore this year. He probably should have been the guy.
00:50:17
Pensylvester
Yeah. How can he not be McCrone?
00:50:17
Cokeley Brothers
He just lost five to three to Brennan McCrone.
00:50:18
Pensylvester
I don't get that. No.
00:50:20
Cokeley Brothers
It's a dude. I teammate matchups are just never. You can never fully use them to gauge who to use.
00:50:23
Shoebody do bop
They're terrible.
00:50:28
Cokeley Brothers
They have they have to be like ah the coin flip criteria that you use.
00:50:32
Pensylvester
There's a minute corn is what you're telling me.
00:50:34
Cokeley Brothers
It's so frustrating.
00:50:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. OK. ah Back to the Iowa lineup. That's what I was initially talking about.
00:50:46
Cokeley Brothers
ah Eligibility breakdown.
00:50:47
Shoebody do bop
So Dean Peterson, Drake, Ayala Nasir Bailey, Jordan Williams,
00:50:53
Cokeley Brothers
Miguel Estrada.
00:50:55
Pensylvester
Mikey Caliendo.
00:50:55
Shoebody do bop
Miguel Estrada, Caliendo, Gabe Arnold or Kennedy, Ferrari.
00:50:57
Cokeley Brothers
Caliendo. Kennedy. for Ferrari. Harvey Ludington?
00:51:05
Pensylvester
What if Kennedy cuts down to
00:51:07
Shoebody do bop
What about AJ Ferrari?
00:51:12
Cokeley Brothers
Or AJ Ferrari. And then Ben Keeter, Reese, you're out of your mind.
00:51:20
Pensylvester
What if Kennedy cuts down 57?
00:51:22
Cokeley Brothers
That's not happening.
00:51:24
Cokeley Brothers
There's no way. 100%.
00:51:26
Shoebody do bop
Hmm. But I like where your head's at, Race.
00:51:27
Pensylvester
He's certified.
00:51:28
Shoebody do bop
I think he could do it.
00:51:29
Pensylvester
Certified there.
00:51:32
Shoebody do bop
He's more definitely more likely than Caliendo.
00:51:36
Cokeley Brothers
one hundred percent
00:51:40
Cokeley Brothers
Don't mess with Caliendo. Honestly, don't mess with Patrick Kennedy. He had a great year this year. he
00:51:44
Pensylvester
So what's Gabe Arnold going to do
00:51:45
Cokeley Brothers
he's the He's the number two guy, Patrick Kennedy is. Gabe Arnold's going to sit. He's not good enough. Tough.
00:51:52
Pensylvester
to do? Ride the bench?
00:51:54
Cokeley Brothers
Ride that bench.
00:51:56
Pensylvester
Or maybe he'll transfer to Penn State.
00:52:02
Cokeley Brothers
I hate it, Reese. I hate it.
00:52:04
Shoebody do bop
He really wants that matchup with Carter Sriracha. This is the only way he can get it now.
00:52:10
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, did you see, have you guys been seeing the the Twitter beef between Bo Nickel and Dylan Palacio?
00:52:17
Cokeley Brothers
And then they they posted a Bo Nickel, Carter Starachi. ah God, who's the kid from ah Johnny Eblen and somebody else were at American Top Team.
00:52:29
Pensylvester
Yeah. What was Johnny Edwin relate? Wow. How, what was he, ah like, what was the KISS component in that whole thing?
00:52:34
Shoebody do bop
That's where I'm pretty sure that's where he trains American top team.
00:52:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah.
00:52:39
Pensylvester
What was it even, I don't even know that the, give me the rundown.
00:52:43
Cokeley Brothers
what do you mean?
00:52:44
Pensylvester
I don't know what, what's been going on with these two.
00:52:47
Cokeley Brothers
So Palacio. Oh God, I actually can't even remember how it started. But basically.
00:52:54
Pensylvester
I know earlier.
00:52:56
Shoebody do bop
Palacio made a comment about how Meyer, uh, was, was talking about the dudes doing steroids.
00:52:59
Cokeley Brothers
Steroids.
00:53:03
Shoebody do bop
And then he was like, just even say who it is.
00:53:05
Shoebody do bop
And Penn state people are going crazy. And then, um,
00:53:09
Pensylvester
Yeah, I saw that.
00:53:10
Shoebody do bop
And then, yeah, Bo was like, oh, we know who he was referencing or whatever. And then they were like, oh, you really want to do this? And Bo was like, no one's scared of you. And he was like, I sent this picture of you to your friends. They thought it was funny. Ha ha
00:53:28
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, so like...
00:53:28
Shoebody do bop
nobody likes Nobody likes you, Bo. Blah, blah, blah. But, I mean,
00:53:31
Pensylvester
Wait, what? where He's in a picture of him
00:53:33
Cokeley Brothers
now but Yeah, so there's ah there's a couple of things that happened, but basically, Bo Nickel was like, your greatest accomplishment in wrestling is not getting pinned by David Taylor at the at the Southern Scuffle.
00:53:34
Shoebody do bop
and was like a meme.
00:53:40
Shoebody do bop
Call them a giraffe. Yeah. yeah
00:53:44
Cokeley Brothers
And Dylan Palacio said, my biggest accomplishment is all the camps that he does. And then he used that to bring up the fact that Bo Nickel came to one of his camps, showed a front three-quarter Nelson and hang hung out on his phone the whole time and ah but asked for 10, 10 K I think, or no, I don't know. Asked for a bunch of money.
00:54:03
Cokeley Brothers
ah And i just kind of used it to kind of clown Bo a little bit, but, and then Dylan Placeo saw the photo of them at American top team and said, thank God I wasn't there. they would have beat the shit out of me.
00:54:17
Cokeley Brothers
At least he is. i don't even know what word to use. Real. About ki getting his brains kicked in?
00:54:26
Pensylvester
He's really real.
00:54:32
Pensylvester
He's just a Twitter warrior.
00:54:39
Shoebody do bop
He's got them Twitter fingers.
00:54:39
Cokeley Brothers
He likes Twitter. No trigger fingers.
00:54:43
Pensylvester
No trigger fingers.
00:54:45
Cokeley Brothers
L40 for life.
00:54:48
Cokeley Brothers
i don't know if I can say that.
00:54:52
Shoebody do bop
love what Dylan Placeo does for the sport of wrestling. Absolutely love it. I also love what Bo Nickel does.
00:54:57
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think it's a bad thing.
00:54:59
Shoebody do bop
also so love what Bo Nickel does for the sport of wrestling. Love it all.
00:55:02
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know if I like what Bo... What does Bo do for the sport?
00:55:05
Shoebody do bop
ah He grows it.
00:55:07
Cokeley Brothers
Can you... Sprinkle some more explanation on that?
00:55:11
Shoebody do bop
Yeah, he puts fertilizer, waters it, gives it sunlight.
00:55:14
Pensylvester
Miracle grow.
00:55:15
Shoebody do bop
He grows it.
Kyle Dake's Wrestling Future
00:55:19
Shoebody do bop
He grows it.
00:55:21
Pensylvester
It should be it should be self explanatory how how he grows the sport.
00:55:21
Cokeley Brothers
Alright.
00:55:25
Cokeley Brothers
Oh! Did you guys see Kyle Dake for another four years?
00:55:35
Shoebody do bop
He just... but ah Does he not have enough footage?
00:55:36
Pensylvester
Ryan's reaction is just like mine.
00:55:38
Shoebody do bop
Does he not have enough footage for his ah documentary?
00:55:42
Cokeley Brothers
The Dake doc needs one final crown jewel, Ryan.
00:55:47
Shoebody do bop
And what if he just doesn't get it, Jamie?
00:55:48
Cokeley Brothers
He's going to get it at 86 kilos. It's going to be mountain man.
00:55:53
Cokeley Brothers
go to be a mountain of a man
00:55:54
Shoebody do bop
You think he's going up to 86?
00:55:56
Cokeley Brothers
So the, the, the thing, the explanation that he gave, and I am, I am giving you the spark notes version of it. And it's the AI spark notes version that might not be fully factually correct.
00:56:06
Cokeley Brothers
He has heard that there are rumblings about changing either the weight classes or the weigh in procedure. And based on that, it will determine if he wants to try and continue wrestling 74, or if he's going to make his way up to 86.
00:56:20
Cokeley Brothers
We should, i think, expect him at 79 this year unless they change the weigh-in procedure this year, which is unlikely.
00:56:27
Shoebody do bop
So if he goes up to 86, who's going to make the team at 74?
00:56:32
Cokeley Brothers
David Carr.
00:56:34
Shoebody do bop
Why not Jordan Burrows?
00:56:37
Cokeley Brothers
Because we don't know if Jordan Burrows is coming back, let alone wrestling 74 kilos. He said he would never wrestle. No, he said he would never weigh 163 again. I think they both said that.
00:56:47
Pensylvester
Not even if there's a fire...
00:56:47
Cokeley Brothers
So I guess...
00:56:55
Shoebody do bop
That was funny. Not even if there's a fire.
00:56:57
Cokeley Brothers
i't You lost me on that one.
00:57:00
Shoebody do bop
ah Okay. David Carr.
00:57:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I mean, he just beat Takatani.
00:57:05
Shoebody do bop
and i met What about Mitchell Messenbrink?
00:57:06
Cokeley Brothers
I think he... think David Carr is a guy.
00:57:09
Shoebody do bop
What about Mitchell Messenbrink?
00:57:11
Cokeley Brothers
i think David Carr is a guy.
00:57:13
Shoebody do bop
What about Dean Hamidi?
00:57:17
Cokeley Brothers
Too big.
00:57:19
Pensylvester
You think O tool is too big also.
00:57:23
Cokeley Brothers
Also too big. He's going to get into accounting.
00:57:25
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think he's going to i don't think he's going to fully...
00:57:28
Pensylvester
you don't think he's, you think he's done?
00:57:31
Cokeley Brothers
i don't know if he's done. I don't know. I can't figure him out. I think he needs time to figure himself out.
00:57:38
Shoebody do bop
What about
00:57:40
Cokeley Brothers
God, no.
00:57:44
Cokeley Brothers
David Carr would piece up Bo Bassett like a...
00:57:47
Pensylvester
What about Cooper Coakley?
00:57:49
Cokeley Brothers
Like a happy meal.
00:57:51
Shoebody do bop
yeah What about Cooper Coakley?
00:57:51
Cokeley Brothers
If it's Cooper... Ryan, if it's Cooper Coakley, I will do... i will be your... you're I will be indebted to you for the rest of my life.
00:58:02
Shoebody do bop
I can be your hero, baby.
00:58:06
Pensylvester
Yeah, this felt like a really productive episode.
00:58:08
Shoebody do bop
I will take away the pain.
00:58:11
Cokeley Brothers
right. We know that singing is generally the sign that the episode is over.
00:58:17
Shoebody do bop
No, no, no.
00:58:18
Shoebody do bop
That was...
00:58:21
Cokeley Brothers
We've really dragged it on. Hey, what do you think this lineup is going to look like? Man, what's going on here?
00:58:28
Pensylvester
Where were we even, did we even hit on like what we were wanting to talk about?
00:58:33
Cokeley Brothers
What did we want to talk about?
00:58:33
Shoebody do bop
i I did want to bring up the fact that I thought it was pretty baller that both Dean Hamidi and Wyatt Hendrickson had to be back-to-back NCAA champs to win their titles.
00:58:48
Shoebody do bop
I thought that was pretty cool.
Oklahoma State Parade Humor
00:58:50
Pensylvester
dude, this dude, when I stopped talking about Oklahoma State.
00:58:50
Shoebody do bop
I thought that was the coolest. I thought...
00:59:00
Shoebody do bop
I'm going to punch you in the face, Reece. Is that not a cool fact?
00:59:04
Cokeley Brothers
God, were you at the parade? Ryan, were you at the parade?
00:59:07
Shoebody do bop
Yeah, I was. I was at the parade.
00:59:08
Pensylvester
Yeah, were you there? friends
00:59:12
Pensylvester
Holding Wyatt's cape?
00:59:12
Shoebody do bop
I thought it was funny.
00:59:13
Cokeley Brothers
ah bet you helped to organize it.
00:59:15
Shoebody do bop
I thought it was so funny how worked out people were getting over or getting about that. They threw a parade?
00:59:19
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, he is.
00:59:23
Cokeley Brothers
For third place, John Smith is rolling over in his grave.
00:59:27
Shoebody do bop
I know. I was like, oh, shit.
00:59:28
Pensylvester
May he rest in peace.
00:59:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, um um' I'm there, guys.
00:59:38
Pensylvester
thought we were going to talk about vaccines today.
00:59:39
Cokeley Brothers
I'm there.
00:59:46
Cokeley Brothers
No. what would What would give you the inclination that we would ever talk about that, Pencilvester?
00:59:52
Pensylvester
It's topical.
00:59:55
Cokeley Brothers
No, it's not. Not for this podcast.
00:59:58
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe four years ago.
01:00:00
Shoebody do bop
still topical.
01:00:04
Cokeley Brothers
You know, when when like Carter Young left Northwestern because they were trying to force everybody to get vaccinated and Jimmy Kennedy and Andrew Howe got kicked off the roster.
01:00:11
Shoebody do bop
Isn't it cool, though, that that Carter young that cardi Young and Jimmy Kennedy finally got reunited?
01:00:18
Pensylvester
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
01:00:18
Cokeley Brothers
Do you think they hugged it out?
01:00:20
Shoebody do bop
I think they did. I think they did.
01:00:22
Pensylvester
The heck did I say we made it dude.
01:00:22
Shoebody do bop
I bet they embraced him.
01:00:25
Pensylvester
No heart conditions or anything.
01:00:25
Cokeley Brothers
you guys think Do you guys think that we're going to get Wyatt back on the pod or do doomed?
01:00:28
Pensylvester
No myocarditis.
01:00:31
Cokeley Brothers
Do you think we're doomed? Dude, he's going on so many freaking news things and bigger podcasts and TV shows.
01:00:40
Shoebody do bop
it's not going to be cool It's not going to be cool to have them on the pod by the time we do finally get them on there.
01:00:44
Pensylvester
hill ah hill he he little His little fame, it'll run its course. And then he'll come crawling back. I hope he hears that.
01:00:55
Cokeley Brothers
Back to his roots.
01:00:56
Pensylvester
i hope he listens to this. hope he finds the time in his schedule to listen to this.
01:01:02
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, dude, he he he went back to the Air Force and did like a whole thing there too. It has been a really cool couple of weeks for him.
01:01:10
Shoebody do bop
He did say is like my life changed overnight. Like it's I can't believe that. I still think about it and watch like the last 30 seconds of that match.
01:01:21
Pensylvester
You just seethe with jealousy.
01:01:22
Shoebody do bop
And I'm just like, no, I don't. Not anymore. I did. Not anymore, though.
01:01:26
Pensylvester
You're seething.
01:01:28
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, that you weren't there?
01:01:28
Shoebody do bop
Now I'm just like, yeah no, that I wasn't the one to defeat Gable Steveson.
01:01:36
Pensylvester
Oh, I was talking about...
Challenges of Wrestling Gable Stevenson
01:01:38
Pensylvester
Well, yeah. That too, I guess.
01:01:40
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, everybody everybody sees at that.
01:01:44
Pensylvester
actually don't wish I had to wrestle Gable Stevenson.
01:01:48
Shoebody do bop
It looks extremely hard.
01:01:48
Cokeley Brothers
No, it does not look fun.
Wyatt vs. Kirkfleet Match Recollection
01:01:50
Shoebody do bop
I bet Wyatt had to train his body up so well to prepare himself for battle against Gable.
01:01:50
Cokeley Brothers
you Dude, it's so funny.
01:01:57
Cokeley Brothers
i was watching I was watching this during the semis. I was watching him wrestle Kirkfleet.
01:02:01
Pensylvester
right, time to wrap up the show now. thanks for listening.
01:02:04
Cokeley Brothers
No, let me tell this story. Let me tell you this story.
01:02:07
Cokeley Brothers
Let me get my piece in. Can I can i talk? I was watching Gable, or not Gable, Wyatt wrestle Kirk in the semis. And I lean over to Dad, and I'm like, you know what, Dad?
01:02:18
Cokeley Brothers
I think I could take him. I think I could still get the job done. And then Kirk like goes in for the body lock, and Hendrickson just head pinches him over. And I'm like, never mind.
01:02:29
Cokeley Brothers
like i couldn't. Never mind.
01:02:32
Shoebody do bop
So strong. So big and so strong.
01:02:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, absolutely not.
01:02:37
Shoebody do bop
So giant.
01:02:39
Pensylvester
Does Mickey feel safe?
01:02:42
Cokeley Brothers
What? Yeah, protected.
Show Wrap-Up and Final Thoughts
01:02:46
Cokeley Brothers
Protected.
01:02:47
Cokeley Brothers
And with that, we're out of here.
01:02:48
Shoebody do bop
Let's Ricky wrap it up.
01:02:51
Cokeley Brothers
Rick is wrapping it up and we're leaving. Closing thoughts, closing words.
01:02:55
Shoebody do bop
Rick and Morty coming back May 25th, season eight.
01:02:59
Cokeley Brothers
I didn't know that. That was cool. Didn't know about that.
01:03:01
Pensylvester
Bring back Justin Roiland.
01:03:01
Cokeley Brothers
Sweet. Bring a... Goodbye.
01:03:05
Cokeley Brothers
Have a good one.
01:03:05
Pensylvester
He was exonerated.
01:03:08
Cokeley Brothers
Goodbye.