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Get Whimsical On The Mic
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Today we talk about mouth sounds on microphones and how to use whimsy to get through a tough time
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uh and we're good wait am i am i in are we taking turns now don't know well you think i plan the shit i don't usually do it but i and i just noticed when i was editing the other day you were like oh do you want to do it am i doing it and was like oh are we should we be alternating now i don't know you used to do it and now i do it but like if you want to do it go for it what if we do like all right let's do it where every other word right we do it okay all right ready good morning Good afternoon.
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And good evening, friends. And
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family.
00:00:43
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I forgot what we said. Boys and girls ah from dimensions known and unknown. and i was Down all around inside and outside the gender binary. I don't know. Just a little mishmash.
00:00:55
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The universe is known and unknown part. Yeah. See, I listen. I've said that enough times in my life that I forgot that I even say it. yeah yeah that's our queue or toq for sure where we take your questions and answer them as if anybody fuck to hear answers last you go on our website and you say you want to hear them in which case you do give a fuck to hear our answers but sometimes taking from the internet like reddit and quora because they don't know we are we still answer questions anyway so i do think it would be very funny if somebody posted a question on the website and then just didn't listen it was like yeah we actually don't care actually don't care what you think fuck you my name is danny guaranteeing with me as always is my best buddy adam say hi adam
00:01:32
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Hi, Adam. Hey, all right. So we, and Danny, anything you want to talk about before we get started? um No, i actually, I don't really have anything. So I heard we have a very special question today, though. do have a special question.
00:01:50
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We're going to shoot right for that 20 minute mark today. I believe in us. I don't. um I think we could do it. So here we go. This question is from ah Danny Guarantee.
00:02:01
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I think it's how you pronounce it. Guarante? Guarante? Guarante? I know it's Danny. Juarante, probably? Maybe Juarante? Juarante? Juarante, probably. Juarante. bet it's like French, like Juarante.
00:02:19
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Juarante. um So anyway, Danny Juarante says, um why are people gross on mic? And that's the question.
00:02:31
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um Yeah. but That's actually a great poignant question to ask because it's something we had talked about last week. what you you Now, what do you take from that question? I think I need some more details. Like, what do you think they mean by why are people gross on mic?
00:02:46
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I think they probably mean like, why do people chew on the mic or like burp into the mic? You know, things like that. It's like, I can understand the odd noise. You know, maybe you sneezed, coughed.
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I can even understand the single, like, surprised burp or something. But, like... I personally... I don't know about this this Danny person. they Honestly, they sound like an asshole. But... um I personally have dealt with people that, for whatever reason, like online gaming or whatever, will just, like, chew into the mic or...
00:03:26
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Just more than once, just belt right into the mic. Yeah. Yeah. So I get it, Danny. I'm with you 100%. Yeah, Joranti. Yeah, Danny.
00:03:37
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yeah dan um gentlemen in the in I'm to call him Hawk Jua. Danny Hawk Jua. Danny Hawk Jua. So... so Yeah, I mean, I've experienced something like this before, and I think this is a good subject to talk about with, you know, the scores of fans that we have, you know, many of whom may be in podcasting, narrating, or if they online gaming, anything that involves like you talking into a microphone with people having it go directly into their ears from a head device.
00:04:09
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Um, Yeah, it doesn't make for great radio. It doesn't make for good communication. and And unless people signed up for ASMR, it doesn't make for just like a comfortable sound for the listener of in any capacity.
00:04:24
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So, yeah. I mean, i even when I'm on the mic and this might just be because, you know, I do voice acting and stuff on the side. Actually, we both do now.
00:04:35
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Oh, I've been so I even tried to like. I even try to like breathe, not less, but like deeper, slower breaths so that it doesn't make as much noise.
00:04:52
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Like I'll even change the way I breathe purposely so that you don't hear easily. Sometimes I'll stop breathing for the whole recording. Yeah, I've seen him do it in person. He turned blue. had to slap and be like, Adam, you got to breathe, man.
00:05:08
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yeah Yeah, but the thing was that, like, what if I go to space? You know, I need to be able to do that so I don't die. think we've found ways to help you breathe in space. I don't think you need to hold your breath.
00:05:27
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I don't think Elon Musk is making me spaceships. What are you talking about make for me to breathe in space? What, so you're just going to run there? I don't know. I'm just saying, what if I go there?
00:05:40
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I need to know how to hold my breath longer. That's I'm saying. Or, you know, underwater space. That's like a whole other universe down there. I think you have, well, the water one I'll grant, but the the space one, I think you have other problems besides just holding your breath you have to deal with.
00:05:54
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I mean, I don't think tardigrades hold their breath when they're in space, so, you know, but, like, they're tiny little guys, but... I'm pretty sure tardigrades are just God. Like, I'm pretty sure that that is what we revere, like,
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People are like, oh, God doesn't have a physical. Yeah, he does. It's tardigrades. They're invincible. Nothing them. God is made up of a bunch of tiny little not saying he's made up of it, but like they're his spies.
00:06:19
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They're all the Jesuses. Yeah, you know how they say, like be careful, the woods have ears. And then you hear a crow in the background, evil. Every time I hit a tree with an It's actually the tardigrades. It hears it. um Interesting, interesting.
00:06:35
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um But let's get back to this whole noise. Yeah. Wow. We went off real quick. um So. The thing I want to know is, like, what would you say in your personal opinion is the most like egregious thing, like when you're recording or playing a game or whatever?
00:06:56
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Although I guess we should probably like differentiate. because when I think of this, I do get annoyed if I'm playing games with someone and they're making mouth noises. Like, like if someone just burps right into the mic while I'm gaming with them, I'm like fucking bro. Like, what do you like?
00:07:10
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Gross. Like recognize what you're doing. You have a mic in your mouth. But I think even then, like I've, it's not as egregious because I feel right away. I can tell them that's fucking piggish, but I think when it's an actual project, such as recording an episode of the podcast or something I have to edit later, you know, I think it's especially annoying because it adds more work to to me.
00:07:38
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no I get that. and And I mean, it's even a little bit more dickish in the fact that, like, you know, you're there to do. You know, you're not just hanging out. You're actually trying to do something, quote unquote, professional.
00:07:51
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Right. Um, so like, to me, it it kind of goes from
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just not even like, how do I put it? When you're gaming, I could see somebody doing it because they're just not even thinking about it or they're focused on the game. They're not focused on what they're doing, what they're doing in on their manners.
00:08:15
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Right. They're not focused on being like a normal person. A considerate person, yeah I would say. Well, it's it's when you move into the realm of a project, like you were saying, that I think it goes from just absent-minded to inconsiderate.
00:08:32
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Because it's like, now you know you're there to, like, with a purpose. You're there to do something, not just game or bullshit with your friends. Right.
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um And, like, even now, i already thought about chewing into the mic like three times just as a joke and I was like no that's disgusting I don't even want to pretend it's just bad and that's for me that is the worst one is the chewing ah just I I knew a guy i don't play games with him anymore but like it was constant he would chew gum he would chew food and he was just very loud very wet chewer
00:09:16
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Right into the mic. Oh, man. Oh, it it was. We had another friend that would join us sometimes and. um he He got sick of He was like, dude, can you please stop doing that?
00:09:31
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Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. I didn't even think about it. And he'd be good for the rest of that session. But then the next session would come around and. Yeah, yeah.
00:09:43
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yeah yeah Yeah, that that one's a tough one, because like I think chewing with your mouth open is something that is a peeve of a lot of people. So then like when you don't even have like them in the same space and you have to and it's directly funneled into your ears, which I can imagine that makes it for those who are even more sensitive to it, too, because there's like a phobia for that. Like, I think.
00:10:06
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I remember on I think. I was watching something on Dropout. I think it's called Adventuring Academy. No, no. ah Fuck, i can't remember what it's called. But essentially, Brendan Lee Mulligan will sit down with like another creator and talk to them about D&D have them... and And at some point, they have like a little snack session where people bring them out.
00:10:25
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And they always drop out so cool because they have... and the big In every show listing, they say like a list of potential triggers for people like certain visuals or, you know, they have or they'll say the phobia or like ah it'll say something, something phobia in parentheses, mouth sounds or chewing sounds or clowns or whatever.
Embracing Whimsy in Life
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That way people know. And I know there's one for the sound of chewing that I think maybe that everybody has like a strong phobia of, but I know is very offensive to the ears to a lot of people. And I think when it's funneled directly into your ears through a headset, it must just be just so like a fucking, you know, a chainsaw to your skull.
00:11:03
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That's me. I can't stand it. Like it won't drop. Well, I guess it's not because I won't. say anything right but man when i hear it my ears just like lock onto it uh-huh to the point where i'm sorry am i boring you no sorry i've just been really tired today i'm sorry it's been a long day i didn't mean yawning into the mic disgusting honestly i wasn't yawning i was talking and then the yawn came out as i talked yeah um i'm really sorry about that no no it's fine i'm just just busted your chest long day sorry everybody
00:11:39
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ah But yeah, it's just like I have to have a TV on or or something while I'm eating because I'm just in the quiet, I just my ears will just home in on everybody else chewing interest. And I i can't.
00:11:59
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Yeah. um All that to say, folks, listen, we are in an age where increasing communications happens virtually. Right. And.
00:12:11
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just be mindful of that shit. Mute your microphone. If you're eating, mute your microphone, if there's a lot of chaos going on in the background, uh, or Danny did right before we started, he said, Hey, can you hear that? I'm playing music in the background for my bird. Cause he gets lonely when the wife isn't in town.
00:12:29
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Um, you know, check in with people, say, hey can you hear that? Is that bothersome? Or if someone does let you know, heed that and just try to be mindful of it. I know it takes a while. They're not doing it to hurt your feelings, but you're inadvertently hurting theirs. You keep doing it.
00:12:42
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Now I will say when it comes to creation, right? Everybody wants to record a podcast. The McElroy's have a book that's been out for a few years now called everyone has a podcast except you.
00:12:54
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And like, It's a very poignant that everybody can It's easy just to start one up. Who would make a podcast? So am right. Well, who would record a podcast and then edit a podcast and have like three more podcasts that they also have to record? So lame nerds.
00:13:10
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um Think of your editors, right? I think it's important that. Whether. you're filming, I don't know, a team's meeting and someone might be doing something with that.
00:13:23
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Or if you're recording a podcast and you know someone has to edit that, a lot of the time you will be much more conscientious of those things when the responsibility of editing falls upon you.
00:13:36
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Because if you do start to actually pay attention to what a good sound or good sounding recording would be, You'll be like, oh, there's a lot of fan noise in the background. Oh, there's a lot of like warble in that microphone. Oh, there's a lot of chewing noises. Someone's eating a lot. I didn't notice in the recording, but now that I have their their track isolated, holy fuck, they've been eating this all time.
00:13:58
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I used to work with a guy who, or record with a guy who often would eat Doritos on mic and you could hear him just bounce around in the metal can as he was tilting them into his mouth. Great guy. i enjoyed the guy immensely, but I had to put my foot down when I didn't, I didn't notice it at times when i was recording, but during the edit, I'm like, mother fucker.
00:14:17
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That's more shit that have to cut out. Like i I don't want to do this all day. Audio editing is especially challenging because you don't see a lot of the visual cues to remind you of where shit was. you have to write down everything. And I'm like, fuck, dude, fuck, where is this? And i have to listen to every single thing, so zoom in on it to hear everything.
00:14:34
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It's very meticulous and very challenging sometimes. And when you don't have a visual medium, at least to keep people entertained. So that way that any audio imperfections maybe seem a little less egregious, it's especially challenging. So just think of your editors, think of the people that you're recording with and when in doubt, mute yourself and then just unmute when you have something to say that way.
00:14:57
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whatever. Cause it's more common for someone to say, Oh shit, I've been talking this so whole time and I've been muted. Like everybody goes, tee hee hee. I'm sorry, man. And then you keep going versus you've been unmuted the whole time and just firing off all sorts of sounds into the microphone.
00:15:10
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You may be unaware you're doing it and you're probably don't mean to be mean about it, but just think, think, think about that. I mean, when we're recording these, we each have our own audio track and yeah we can mute at the click of a button.
00:15:24
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And I always have it front and center. I always have my mouse near it and Adam can attest I'm muting and unmuting constantly while we're recording these because i have to sniffle.
00:15:37
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I have to burp. I have to, you know, move and my chair squeaks. I'll mute for just a split second while I do that thing and then unmute again. It it like, it just, it helps. And I know what Adam that you're,
00:15:54
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what you're saying about like, you know, you have to then isolate the sound and and get it out. So, umli um, believe, um, believe it. Yep. Um, oh my God. Cheating on um, Beluga with, um, Beluga.
00:16:06
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Um, Beluga and i play D and D online. And the way we have it set up, everybody on discord, when we play online comes through one channel.
00:16:22
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Which means if somebody burps while the DM is, you know, painting a picture, that's that's just there now. There's no getting that out.
00:16:34
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So, you know, sometimes you can't even, like, true separate the audio because it's all on one channel for us. So just, you know, if you're on a mic, just put your hand over the mic when you belch, when you have to chew.
00:16:48
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You know, it's fine if you need to eat, but just mute yourself for a second. Every every chat function has a mute at this point. A lot of them have like a mute button, like even on video games, there's like a button on the controller that just you just press it and it mutes you.
00:17:02
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Get acquainted with it, y'all. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. um Yeah. So I think that's kind of long and short of it. We were I don't know how we got on that subject last week. So I'm glad this Joranti person sent this question. No, that worked out very well. it was. Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:17
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Very umble come stumble. Was that it? It was, uh, no, come stumble. Sweet, sweet.
00:17:25
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No, that's not it. I'm will come stumble means to understand something. Well, I can come stumble them asking that. Are you trying to say insouciant? Yes. It was a very insouciant question for what happened last week. Is that insouciant? I thought, I don't know. Like carefree or something.
00:17:43
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No, wasn't insouciant. Like the one that's, uh, Very like perfectly pointed. Insouciant. Let's see. Showing a casual lack of concern and different insouciant.
00:17:57
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What's the one I'm thinking of then? I don't know, dog. The one that that's like, it's a perfect fit for this. ah Buttonhole. No, no, that's not it.
00:18:09
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You have the old list, don't you? Somewhere. I don't know. Now we have to figure it out and I'll put it in the show notes if you remember. ah Hang on. I do have it. ah Oh, we're going back into the archives, folks.
00:18:21
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Freud, you're little while. yeah I'm actually proud of myself for remembering Insouciant. I remember Sussurus. Oh, was that it? Sussurus? No, Sussurus is like a whisper, like ah like a whispering like sound like carried on like the winds and stuff.
00:18:37
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Like something can let out like a Sussurus. But it's not. See, I remember some things. Nice. Good job, me. Look at you. remember in some words. I bet you if you write if you list it off a few, I could probably tell you what more of them mean. I just can't think of any of the words to tell you what they mean.
00:18:54
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But I feel confident that I would get at least half of them right. If I heard the rough feelings, scruffulous. I don't think that was it. i don't remember that one. No.
00:19:06
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What'd you say? Morally tainted. Oh, I wouldn't have gotten that one. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'd be like 30 percent. Leif Lewis. No, that's not it. Oh, shit. Leif Lewis. What was that one? That was. um Come on. Come on. Damn it.
00:19:20
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Oh, I kind of like this game. Let's play. Can Adam remember words? Fuck, I should know this. I remember this word cause it's such a fun word to say. ah Fuck, because I remember insouciant because I was comparing it to Dr. Seuss's world of being carefree and funny.
00:19:34
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that's how i remembered insouciant. Leif Lewis is like, is that also a sound of sorts? Yes. It's a kind of sound. um I can't think of what kind of a pleasant sound of ah like a like a pleasant.
00:19:49
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Something pleasant to the ear, a mellifluous sound, right? Sweetly or smoothly flowing, sweet sounding. OK, like a mellifluous melody. OK, got it. I knew it was something with sound. I couldn't remember exactly what it was. um I'm getting there.
00:20:05
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I'm getting there. So he's like, it's kind of some them are kind of floating around in the old. fish tank all right what about uh bum fuzzle
00:20:15
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bum fuzzle oh i was thinking of mount weasel which is the fake entry in like a oh yeah mount weasel um bum fuzzle can you use it in a sentence uh you seem very bum fuzzled about this word ah having a loss of words or confusion about a particular subject to confuse or fluster.
00:20:41
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OK, I guess it would be this word is bum fuzzling you. Yes, it would be. bum fuzzling me My fuzzle is bummed or my bum is fuzzled. One of the two is going to bother me.
00:20:53
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What's the word I'm thinking? Did we have a word that meant like equally balanced? Or like perfectly fit? i think don't remember. I don't know. I think it began with a C. Why don't you why don't you just control f and like just type in like perfect and see what comes up?
00:21:12
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um If it doesn't, then there's nothing as the word for perfect in the definition. Fitting. Or thesaurus. Thesaurus.com.
00:21:24
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I called this really tall tech guy that works at our food bank, a techasaurus. And he was really pleased with that word and said he wants to make a shirt that says the techasaurus on it.
00:21:38
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There was a girl I knew. Her name was ah Christina. Oh. And one day, i forget why, but I just went like, oh, hey, what's up, Christophina?
00:21:51
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Christophina? And for whatever reason, she was like, I love that. I'm going to start using that. Yeah, it's like a fancy kind of water. Yeah. Yeah, Aquafina. yeah Drink some Christophina today.
00:22:05
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power, it's like, it's like purified water with the blood of Christ in it. Like Christophina. That's like the first word we did. the first word? It's like the first word we did, and then we started hearing in the world. did i will start putting words In the titles, because I could go back through those. But if you said it was the first one we did, like one of them.
00:22:28
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Let me see. I'm going to I'm going to go all the way back to see. This is going to bother me all all day. I'm going the wrong way. Let's see. Dirty Allen.
00:22:39
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No, don't think it's that. Wait, what was that one? Scrofulous? No, not Scrofulous. Glabrous. I think that means like slimy.
00:22:49
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I don't think that that's it. um foozled no no you lot trick us no no that's probably not it isome foodroyant i don't remember what foodroyant means uh that one has totally escaped my vocabulary which what was looks french foodroyant probably betcha that's it is it foodroyant no is it petrichor no that's not it no it's not petrichor there's mellifluous cavil that's not it risible no commodious is it commodious no that that's like what does commodious mean no that means spacious that means spacious i think uh look at i'm remembering some shit um let's see i started i stopped putting word oh there's there's a susuris i found that
00:23:47
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And you said that one means like. Susarus is like a whisper of sorts or like a like a so like a gentle rustling or something like that. It's very it's like very hush, hush, very kind of silent, quiet.
00:23:59
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Yeah, it's definitely not like like the susarus of the trees shaking in the leaves during like a windy day or something. Oh, my God. You know, is it croc? No.
00:24:11
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Is it food? Did you look up what that is? Yeah, I did. What is it? It's ah like fast as lightning. Very sudden. Oh, what? Oh, shit. Oh, that makes sense because the title was a foodroyant testicle trauma. That makes sense.
00:24:25
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You get kicked in the nuts. really food Yeah, I'm thinking i think I'm thinking of Cromulent. um I mean, Cromulent was one of the first ones that we used a lot more, but Cromulent just kind of means like an adequate of something.
00:24:37
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Right. OK, that's the one I was thinking of, though. It was very Cromulent. Question considering what we did. That makes sense. It was an acceptable question considering what we did. Was it a wet face dry phone?
00:24:50
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No? Okay. i'm just trying You got it right this time. Because I was reading it. ah ah That's why I got it right. ah Yeah, so there we go. What are you talking about? Why are we looking that up?
00:25:04
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Thanks for coming on that journey with us, listeners. What the fuck were we doing? was saying that Danny asked a really cromulent question.
00:25:11
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Oh, and we weren't very fordroyant about finding it. No. In fact, we we got positively bumfuzzled. Yeah, we went through it in a very Kafkaesque way.
00:25:22
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um See, I remember words when I see them. um Yeah. Hey, can i change the subject for just a quick moment? Because I wanted to share ah little story about something that happened to me recently.
00:25:36
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Absolutely. And I apologize for that taking us over the 20 minute mark. It's okay. Just so you know, it was your fault this time. yeah i Hey, but I still stand by what I said. I had no faith in us.
00:25:48
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ah Well, you know what? That's fair. We didn't. You're too fun to talk to. That's what it is. Can I just say, like, I often wonder if, like, I haven't listened to podcasts much these days because I've been, like, bouncing around to find new streaming services to not use Spotify because fuck them for running their ice ads.
00:26:08
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But. but And I've been experimenting with a couple of other apps. And so I haven't been on podcasts as much because some have them and some don't. And but I remember when I was listening to like stuff you should know is a podcast I really enjoy. I used to listen to them a lot.
00:26:23
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and The thing is, a lot of times I don't take away. a lot that I learned because just to how my brain functions, but I always enjoy their conversation. And so I often wonder if when people listen to us, if they're actually entertained by the subject matter, if they just like hearing two guys who really like talking to each other.
00:26:41
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Yeah, I mean, all I really remember about them is that they had an episode all about poo. They had episodes about so many fun things. Hummingbirds, poo, where the original bananas came from and why banana flavored things don't actually taste like banana.
00:26:56
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there' ah There's like lot of really fun stuff. but I think the first one I ever listened to them to was about um oh slag and what slag is. I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah, that was the first one I ever listened to.
00:27:11
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Is it is slag this the remnants of shit that's left inside of like molten metal? Yeah, it's like when you when you completely burn away. ah Trash and you're left with like the impurities.
00:27:26
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Yeah, like the the concentrated impurities is just slag. It's basically like this is the shit we can't do anything with. Right. My brother in law works in like a steel factory as like I forget what his job is, but he works with.
00:27:41
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Oh, he's going to be mad at me for not remembering, but he does argon, argon something, deoxygenation, half or No, argon decarburization something. I can't remember.
00:27:54
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But essentially they use argon and air to remove carbon from these things to make pure metals. And it helps to push out the slag they can have a more pure product for when they cool it to bend it into whatever it is they need it be.
00:28:09
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And he helps create the formula. You mean argon oxygen decarbonization? Argon oxygen. It's oxygen. I knew there was oxygen in there somewhere. Argon oxygen decarburization. Yes, that's it.
00:28:23
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um He'll be so proud of me for remembering. I had to ask him a ton of times. You remembered. I mean, even that much, because like even that much. Yeah, no, no. A lot of people like understandably so. I'm kind of the boy who cried wolf. Well, sometimes I'll pretend like I don't know what I'm talking about to be funny.
00:28:40
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But there's a lot of times where just genuinely forget. And then anytime I say like, hey, Nick, tell me again about the deoxygenate. What is it again? And he's like, you're just fucking fuck you. I don't care. And I was like, no, no, seriously. I don't remember what you told me.
00:28:52
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Can you say it again? And then dan my sister used to give him so much shit because like she just doesn't care about what his work is. she finds it boring um But like, I'm genuinely like, no, I want to know. And I want to get it. Like, you can you know, you realize that argon oxygen decarburization is a process used in making stainless steel.
00:29:11
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And I know that. And I knew what slag was because of what he told me. So I kind of remembered a bit. Yeah, it does make C4 302 gets converted into two gets converted into two cr two ah three slag right um I'm sorry. Into two CR203 slag.
00:29:31
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I didn't want to correct you, but yeah, that sounds right. Dichromium? Dichromium dioxide? Dichromium dioxide, yep. Yep. ah You got it. And then that plus three carbon baths creates three carbon baths plus two carbon baths.
00:29:50
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No. He comes up with all that. um But anyway, the thing I wanted to talk about was... I had an interesting like we've talked about whimsy on the show before, right, Danny?
00:30:04
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Yes, we're not. We have talked about whimsy infusing whimsy into things like what's something that you can think of that you infuse whimsy into? ah Honestly, I'm playing games with my friends.
00:30:20
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I know sometimes things get very heated. We like to play a lot of team-based games and sometimes things don't go well. hell divers um But remember, I told you that one day, my friend was like, you know, I love how you can just kind of make any situation a bit more fun because I never get pissed off or like, i always look at the the bright side. i'm like, hey, you know, we failed the mission, but we got good practice. We understand a little bit more about what we're doing.
00:30:51
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And, you know, making jokes and everything. And that's what that is. I'm adding whimsy. Well, the reason I ask is because I was asked a very interesting, well, I shouldn't say it's an interesting question, but it made me go through an interesting thought process in not just adding whimsy to things, but finding whimsy in things. And so, um,
00:31:16
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I was out at a farmer's market with a couple of colleagues a few days ago, and I haven't really hung out with any of them except for one of them outside of work. And one of them that I did hang out outside of work with was very new because they're trying to meet new people in the area, make some new friends. They're from out of state.
00:31:33
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And, you know, me being the extrovert, I'm like, they they find me eventually. Talk around the office is like, oh, if you're looking to meet some new people, go talk to Adam. like So I'm introducing some new people tomorrow.
00:31:44
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Um, but, but I went out to this, they, they were part of what's called the sustainability committee and they do a lot of great work at our food bank as like a side project from their main work, which is to,
00:31:54
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you know, had, we got a new plastic baler because of them. They have this really beautiful garden that they grow a lot of vegetables in. Uh, they have a lot of reusability and composting in our organization that got us to be gold lead certified, which is a pretty big deal. And I can't explain to you what it is, but it's like a big deal to get this gold placard or silver placard on your building. It says like, you're fucking doing everything you can to make this place like as clean and energy efficient as you can make it.
00:32:21
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And so cool. Yeah, it's really cool. And, um, Anyway, and so they just heard through the grapevine, you know, they were going to do this thing. And one was like, hey, you should come. i know you're not part of the group, but we like your company. Do you want to come?
00:32:33
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So I went out to this farmer's market and we were walking around and I don't remember what I was giggling at. I was laughing at something somebody said or something I saw. I genuinely can't remember. We were walking away from the farmer's market and the one gal turns to me.
00:32:45
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And she says something along the lines of like, Hey, where do you, where do you find all of your childlike wonder and whimsy? Because I feel like i lost mine. I need to figure out where to get it.
00:32:56
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And I took me a second and you know, I kind of stayed quiet for a moment and and I laughed and I was like, you know, i don't think I ever lost it. And she was like, well, good on you because I feel like as I got older and adulthood came,
00:33:10
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just It just got harder to hold on to it, and I don't even know if I still have it the same way that you do. And she was like, so, like, what's yours, like, how do you do that? And I thought, I never lost it because
00:33:24
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i've used it as a way to stay grounded i guess not grounded because I was definitely my own little world, but like it kept me in a safe space during times of turmoil. right you know a lot of people who listen to the show or who listen to Shares a lot know I don't i didn't have a particularly happy childhood. i didn't have a particularly happy adulthood in the early goings. I made it out of a lot of tough shit. My family went through a lot of tough shit. I've had a lot of tragic loss.
00:33:50
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a lot of abuse in my life in my life is a reason I don't drink. And so like, and ah you know, house fires and pet losses and best friends dying and brother dying and all sorts of bad breakups and all these things.
00:34:02
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And so I don't think I would have gotten through them without being confident enough to tell my support group, whatever I had that I needed them, but also just to find ways to tap into that creative, interesting, safe space in my brain that let me just feel fun in times where it didn't feel like I was allowed to have fun.
00:34:20
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And so... I think like while others experience these tragic things in like this whimsy gets buried, I don't think I ever lost it because that was the source that kept me going. Right.
00:34:31
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And so, and the reason I bring all this up is because it just sparked a very interesting conversation where they just said, well, like, what are, what can I practice? Like, it just was very inch interesting. i wasn't expecting like a little, like a, like a, like a class on the street. Right. But then the other two were chiming like, yeah, like, what do you do? Like, and it was, they were very sincere. And I was just kind of caught off guard.
00:34:53
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And so I kind of want to talk to you and the listeners about like, you know, what are some things that, you know, we were talking about what you can add whimsy into, but what are things that you can pull whimsy from?
00:35:06
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Right. So I like one thing that I gave them an example of, I said, you know, everybody laughs at this shit if they notice it is like, I always laugh when I see those, uh, uh, like, you know, like there's ah storefronts or, or, or restaurant signs that have the lit up letters and they burn out and they spell other shit.
00:35:26
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Mm-hmm. Right. Like, like the one meme I saw the other day was the five guys, burgers and fries. And it said five guys, but like the F burnt out. So says in the E burnt out. So said IV guys like Roman numeral four.
00:35:38
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And somebody was like, oh, one of the guys quit. And then the I burnt out, the I burnt out and somebody took a picture like, oh, he came back because it was Roman numeral five. That shit is so funny to me.
00:35:50
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and There's this, there's this, there's this, uh, Pep boys that I drive past all the time to my favorite, uh, sheets gas station. don't know why it's my favorite, but it's just the one I know to get to the easiest.
00:36:02
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And every time I drive past those Pep boys, I don't know why, but like fucking clockwork. The E in the middle of pep burns out for like nine months of the year. And I just don't know why that poor E can't stay lit.
00:36:13
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But every time I drive past it at night, it says pee-pee boys. And I can't not fucking laugh at that when I see it. It's so funny. And like every time I'm trying to pass it, I just have to look. i made a When I had TikTok for a short time, that was one of the few videos I made was like, oh guys, pee-pee boys.
00:36:30
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Yeah. I actually pulled over on this side of the road just so I could take a stupid fucking 10 second shot of this dumb ass sign. And so much so that like when I told one of my friends about this, she texted me last night while I'm playing a game with Josh.
00:36:44
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And she says, hey, I drove past that PP boy sign you were talking about. And I was fucking laughing on mic with Josh. i was like, oh, my fucking
Infusing Humor into Relationships
00:36:50
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God. And then she says, oh, and I just drove past the dollar E. And like usually it's dollar tree, but the TR was burnt out. She's like, oh, it's a dollar E.
00:36:59
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That's funny. That's funny to me. It's not like, and she says, I know that you think this is hilarious was why I told you. I don't think it's that funny, but I thought you would find it funny. And I was like, you know, I pity you for not being able to find joy in that because that's just hilarious to me.
00:37:14
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um Even if it's not PP boy, dollar E is so funny. It's not provocative. It's just stupid. and So like those are little examples I have. So I was wondering if while I was talking, if you can think of any like,
00:37:26
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What are some things that you are able to, regardless of situation, you made me in? Oh, yeah, hit me. Yeah, because ever since my friend said that, I actually have been thinking, like, well what do I do to just kind of let myself um have more fun with stuff? like Like I said, a lot of the games we play, um especially Mbeluga, if she's having trouble with something, will get very frustrated at it.
00:37:52
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And... and While I was thinking about this, I also kind of just threw it in with like, you know how I have like little sayings that I throw out? Like sure the one I always said is grow older, don't grow up.
00:38:07
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Sure. or I think that is the main point. I think that's the main thing is. um
00:38:17
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And there's nuance to it, but to dumb it down completely, you need to be you need to let yourself be immature. Man, stop trying to force yourself to... Because what is maturity but taking the silliness out of stuff because it's childish?
00:38:35
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Stop that. Who cares? Farts are funny. Poop is funny. like you you And I'm not saying, like, I'll go into work and then rip a fat one and be like, No, you have to, you know, like I said, there's nuance to it. You have to be mature depending on where you are. But, like, if I'm home...
00:38:53
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And it's the middle of the night and Mel and oh, I'm Beluga and I are. um Just lying in bed, like falling asleep. I will purposely hold back my fart until the pressure is as full as it can get so I can release it all at once and make it loud.
00:39:13
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To scare her. ah And I know I'm probably got a bunch of listeners like that. ah that are probably like, oh, come on, man, that's so immature. That's so stupid.
00:39:25
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But like the two of us will laugh about it. She'll be like, oh, my God, you scared me so bad. and then she'll probably fart back and and we'll just have a have a laugh about it.
00:39:36
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Or like us, we told freaking stories about holding your own poop. It's funny. You have to let yourself get a little immature. You have to let yourself be a fool.
00:39:47
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You know, like, yeah, on this show, we were so we we act stupid and that's fine. I love acting stupid. Not, you know, not intelligent, stupid, but just like silly and whimsy to use the word.
00:40:03
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Yeah. Stop trying so hard to be like what you picture an adult to be. Let yourself have fun. Like and it's one of those things where like you said with the signs,
00:40:15
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Once you let yourself kind of... demature a little bit, you'll start to find things funny again. Because you you you kind of... put yourself into that mindset more often.
00:40:30
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So then you will notice things like, dollary! Or like using silly voices, you know? I'm always doing stupid voices. Is that adult? Not really. Do I care?
00:40:41
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um i mean, people get paid for it, so I guess you call They But like... if If I went up to somebody and was like, well, are they going to think I'm mature? No. Am I going to think I'm hilarious? Yes.
00:40:54
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Yeah, I think I think something that like I just it's been such an interesting thing. To.
00:41:04
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like I've been experiencing this kind of.
00:41:09
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I don't know, this is going to sound really bad to Christian people. But the more and more that I look at these different interactions I've had with people over the past almost 12 months, I'm starting to think I'm Jesus.
00:41:25
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and And I don't mean like I can heal the sick and and the lame and all that stuff. But like there's a part of me that feels so foreign and almost alien to...
00:41:41
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certain environments and how I witness people interact or choose not to interact or how they are quick to lean into their rage or judgment as opposed to their compassion and sympathy and empathy.
00:42:00
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And there's a lot of my being that is just genuinely confused by it. And I feel so alien sometimes when those things happen on social media in front of me, wherever stories I may hear.
00:42:17
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And so I think this is one thing that connects people. that makes people curious. And because i and the only reason I thought to bring this story up is because it wasn't the first time someone has asked me that over the past year.
00:42:35
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And I think what's been really nice about it is like, I work and I know it's because of where i work that I have the, op I've been afforded the opportunity of ah more tranquil chaos where there's still a lot going on, especially now.
00:42:49
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um But It's not the same kind of chaos as working in like a mental ward or with children on the spectrum and stuff, which is still, you know, soulful work and good work, but it's a different kind of work.
00:43:03
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And so for people to be in an office setting, for people to be in a warehouse, for people... To have to know what's going on in our government and our world, but still charge forward to do the best at their jobs to feed people or to get people connected to resources can be very draining.
00:43:23
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And so I think like as people connect to me because of the story I told about being on the microphone a you last month or so, doing that big meeting and just kind of letting out that whimsy in meetings now, feeling more confident to just be like, fuck it, I'm just going to do it.
00:43:37
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And just asking people to sign up for things and everything. And my desk is decorated in chaos. There's no organization to it but there's so much fun stuff on my desk and on the cube that people like, holy fuck, we want to come here just to like hang out in this wonderland you have.
00:43:53
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And I've gotten asked more than a handful of times that when they asked me that and then continued to investigate beyond because we were outside of work premises, so they didn't have to focus on work.
00:44:06
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I don't know. There was something about that that felt like got to believe that if these three people, one of whom that it was with us, he doesn't talk that much unless he's talking about something he is very knowledgeable about, was like also jumping in on that conversation. And I thought, okay,
00:44:24
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Maybe there's something to this. maybe Maybe I'm like whimsy Jesus.
00:44:32
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Wheezus, if you will. Wheezus, if you will. Wheezus. um But anyway, I don't know where I'm going with that exactly, but I just like i just wanted to hear how you grab those things from the ether when like you're having a rough time.
00:44:50
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Because I know often we do it when we want to have help others have a good time. but like do you ever find that when you are in... you know Like I said, because I really had to lean into finding the joy in just the smallest things because there was a time where I didn't have a lot to be joyful about, or at least I couldn't see it.
00:45:11
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And so finding those little sparks, those little embers to keep the fire kind of going, or at least see possibility of fire later. really helped save my brain from a lot of ah extra turmoil.
00:45:24
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So i'm curious, like, do you ever, or do you ever, or have you ever found that like, if we take everyone else out of the picture for a second and like, just think about you for this moment, like you're talking about how you cheer up your wife and I talk about how i like to cheer up people at the office.
00:45:40
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How do you, when you are feeling that like the walls are closing in, you have a stressful thing happening or something on the horizon that maybe you're worried about, you're anxious about, or something that happened that you're still trying to figure out how to work through?
00:45:55
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Can you think of any times, or maybe even now, or or or or something similar, or what you would do if you had to try to pull from something anywhere, something that would keep those embers going during a really dark time?
00:46:11
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But like not like a full mental health overhaul, not like a meditative practice. Well, i guess this could be a meditative practice, but I don't mean like a full on therapeutic practice. I mean, just like in those moments where just you have a second to grab a hold of something. What is it and how do you do it and how do you find it?
00:46:27
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Right. um
00:46:32
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Fuck, man, I got deep real quick. So, you know, see, we go from being stupid to I know it's a whiplash shit. So.
00:46:43
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The lowest I've ever really been in my life was ah I had a childhood friend who
00:46:59
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committed a one-time act. Been there, buddy. Yeah. And unlike some people, there was no note.
00:47:09
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There was no Anything. I just got a phone call one day from a mutual friend. i was at college and they asked me if I had a place I could sit down.
00:47:21
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And then they they told me the news. And for a very long time, um i was just like in a perpetual funk. i was good at putting a mask on, I think.
00:47:33
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But when I was alone, things would get harder.
00:47:39
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Now, I've always... From the time I was a kid, like I said, I've always liked the idea of growing older, not growing up. right With nuance, stay immature, don't be afraid to use your imagination and all that.
00:47:56
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And honestly, that was the biggest thing. was One day when I was alone, I just pretended he was there with me. And i I had a whole conversation. I called him a fucking asshole for what he did.
00:48:11
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um
00:48:14
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And obviously, you know, he didn't respond, but I thought up responses based on what I knew of him. And it helped me get a lot of closure for it. i mean, obviously he wasn't, you know, physically really there apologizing for what he did.
00:48:33
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um But just remember, like just imagining it, letting my my imagination... kind of run with it and letting me ask the questions that I wanted the answers to and make up my own answers to them helped a lot.
00:48:53
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Like to the point where if somebody offered me the answers, I would say, yes, I'd like to know what was going on, but it doesn't keep me up at night anymore or anything.
00:49:07
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you know I miss him. I still sometimes... find myself just randomly thinking about it and getting a little upset, little sad, but it does get easier. And I think a big part of that was being able to use my imagination to help wrap up and put a bow on it.
00:49:26
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Um, it's not fast. It's not easy. You know, this wasn't like the next day I did this. This was like a year or two later, maybe.
00:49:39
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um But that that's a big one for me is using my imagination to just kind of like.
00:49:47
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Give myself closure on things, even if it's not real closure, it's good enough for me. Yeah, yeah. Did you ever? that I hope that answers your question. I'd say it you are going in the right direction with like a lot of how I wielded my imagination through tough times.
00:50:06
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But to kind of go a little bit more direct, what like. What are some like micro moments, like maybe not even just pertaining to that, but maybe in the midst of that, maybe you hadn't gotten to the point where you're able to imagine this conversation? Because I did the same thing with my brother past. I had a full on conversation with him.
00:50:25
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um And he talked back. I imagine literally every word that he fucking said. um Every single thing. I went up to his favorite spot up at a place called Eagles Point. And I sat there in my car looking over the edge. And I was like, so what the fuck, dude?
00:50:41
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Like, it was literally that was not what started. was well yeah I think that's exactly how I started mine. And like, but what was interesting about that, like, and what I'm trying to get at is like,
00:50:52
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When I say like when you're trying to pull so and and again, whimsy and imagination is definitely that. But like, what are some like little bits of like joy that you're able to use with your whimsy whip to pull back to you? Like like if you're casting your line out into this ocean of darkness and you pull like something shiny out, this is before the light snuffs out. You're like, oh, look at this cool shell. Right.
00:51:15
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So for something like that for me was like. You know, when my buddy Evan passed. I bought all the games that came out that year that he was looking forward to playing.
00:51:26
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And even though I thought it was going to make me miserable to play them without him. I just started using a lot of his favorite phrases that like still get burned into my head. I started playing Resident Evil games, even though I didn't care for them because I know he really loved them. And then I fell in love with Resident Evil five.
00:51:43
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And he used to always say this thing where every time he shot a zombie in the head and their head exploded, he goes, you lost your head privileges. It would just say shit like that. Um, are Or another one he used to say is flush that, you bitch.
00:51:56
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And so I just find myself every time like Chris Redfield just uppercuts a zombie in half. I'm just like flush that, you bitch. And like there's these these these little sparks of things that they were relevant to him at the time.
00:52:10
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But there were these little sparks of whimsy where like these little sparks of joy. Well, I was like. I could be sad right now, but that makes really happy to know that like that is instilled in me that I didn't think about doing that.
00:52:20
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It's just like I felt like that was me staying connected to somebody that I cared about. And so it was just these little things that even though I was still reeling from my best friend passing, it was like these nice little things that I could just pull from the universe or infuse into the universe that I knew I had from him.
00:52:39
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And in other situations, it wasn't always directly influenced by a loss, but, you know, a breakup or something. Like, i remember, like, ah used to find a lot of joy in like, I still have it in front of me. Actually, i have I was going through a bad breakup when I worked at this bank.
00:52:54
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And I goofed around a lot at that bank because it was inside of a Walmart. And I have this little Gold's Gym, like, squish stress ball thing. And it's still real. I can't believe I still fucking have this thing. And um I used to, like, I bought it one day because it was cheap. I don't know why I bought it.
00:53:10
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But I started trying to learn to throw things behind my back and catch it in front of me. And I'm at, like, an 80% success rate. But, like... I used to just do this when I was really depressed. i would just find this thing and just but like just start making like those, you know, like those ah ah those guys from a Family Guy, or like those big buff guys that ride tiny tricycles and shit or that lift the waist and go, who who you know, I'm just like chucking a ball behind me like,
00:53:32
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Oh, and every time I caught it, I just like got like a little spark of dopamine or serotonin. I'm like, oh, yeah, fuck. Yeah, I did it like dis these little things where I'm just like, oh, I'm a circus boy for a second and I don't have to think of anything else. And so I found just this little bit of whimsy in this fucking tiny little ball that is not meant to be used the way I used it.
00:53:49
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But that's how I was alleviating stress was not by squeezing it was by throwing it behind my back and trying to catch it in front of me and practicing at work until I got it. And now I still do it. Now, and you know, just when I'm bored now, I still do it.
00:54:03
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OK, OK. That's kind of what I mean is like, you know, little examples like that, like not that what you were saying wasn't right, because I also did that very much. And that's part of it. But like just like the things that kind of keep you afloat until you find whatever that imagination land scenario is.
00:54:18
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So the biggest thing I probably do and this is. um I have to, you know, commute to work, right? Well, recently, and I'm just going to use this as the example because it's recent and it makes sense.
00:54:34
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ah So I got laid off. um Or like, I guess I'm about to be. I don't know. We got the news. But last day is October 31st. You're getting laid on October 31st.
00:54:46
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I wish. now um I'm sorry. I'm listening for real. No, I know. But, you know, obviously very sad. And it was something that a lot of us were told in a big meeting. Right. It wasn't even one on one.
00:55:00
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um It was just, hey, everybody in the room. You're leaving. So morale is low. And one of the things I used to do on my way to work and on my way from home from work.
00:55:16
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Because you have to let yourself be silly. I would just blast silly music. Like the music I have on in the background for Link is the music I would listen to in the car.
00:55:26
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And it's silly D&D music. Like it's just about like missing and like, you know, oh, I licked a trap and now there's honey everywhere or something.
00:55:39
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And all just these silly things. And I would just sing at the top of my lungs, belt this stuff out, you know, get into it. ah start acting like I'm, you know, in like a super dramatic movie, like, yes, like clutching my fists and screaming. i even had a friend call me one day and be like, I think I was behind you in traffic.
00:56:06
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Were you screaming and just like singing your heart out? was like, oh, yeah, that was me. Yeah, daddy. Yeah, I was thinking about how a sword broke or something. I don't know.
00:56:18
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Mm hmm. But like it's stupid. It's silly music. And I'm just belting it out. It gets all that stress out. And it's about something silly. So you can't even be in a bad mood while you're doing it.
00:56:29
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You know, even though I'm starting in a bad mood, you just listen to it. It starts to cheer you up and then maybe I'll start singing to myself. And the next thing you know, I'm belting the shit out.
00:56:40
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ah And that I mean, I've been doing that. ah pretty much all the time when I come home from work, I'll sing on the way home. Um, and yeah maybe that's part of it is, is like just constantly getting that stress out by just belting it out. And I've never once been told in my life, actually, no one time in my life, I was told I could sing.
00:57:04
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Um, I don't know what those people were smoking, but I was told only one time in my life that I'm good at singing. So, you know, it's, I probably wouldn't do it in front of people much, but in the car, abso-frickin-lutely.
00:57:20
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It got to the point where I kind of need to sing in the car. Mel, uh, Baloo, goddammit, Baloo and I sing together in the car all the time. Yeah, i know, I'm still there for it. Same stupid songs, yeah. We we have you in the car, we'll sing, we're going to the Ren Faire, we start blasting, like, classic rock bardcore songs and singing to it,
00:57:41
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Oh, it's it's ridiculous and stupid and so much fun. Yeah, was. That's the main thing. You just got to have fun. Yeah, that was ah something that like I was really happy about was that when we were driving together and at first you guys were listening that K-pop Demon Hunter song. Amazingness. Yes. Which is which is fine as long as you guys like it. That's what's important. But um but at some point we started listening Starbomb and shit and like songs I could actually sing along to as well.
00:58:10
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And which made me feel included. But it was also just fun because like you guys already knew what parts you were going to sing, you know, it songs you like to listen to. Oh, dude, I think when it comes to Starbomb, not so much anymore, but we used to know every word to almost every song they made.
00:58:26
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And like you said, we had we had our parts. Right. We knew each other's parts and we didn't sing during each other's parts. We we split it up. Yeah. Yeah. and And honestly, that's ah one of my favorite things about you guys as a couple is that you guys get along like your best buddies. And that's one of my favorite things about you ah that I think most people should aspire for in a in a relationship.
00:58:51
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And um so but like what you're doing and what you're describing is exactly what I'm talking about is like. pulling these moments where you're like, I could be mad.
00:59:02
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I clearly have something have to stress about. I have a problem I need to solve or that I need to get through, but I, that doesn't mean that it has to take, you know, away the joy that I can bring myself in these little moments, right? Like there's still ways yeah to allow yourself.
00:59:18
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Like a lot of people trick themselves into thinking, I had this big thing happening. So why bother let myself be happy? Why bother let myself feel joy for a little while? Or what's that going to solve?
00:59:28
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Well, maybe if you think about it, like, is it going to solve your problem? Maybe not. But does that mean you still shouldn't try to engage in some sort of fun or to let yourself feel something different? Because but would you rather just stay stressed out the whole time?
00:59:44
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I'm not saying that you can't be... anxious or that you shouldn't be worried if it's an immediate problem. I i get that. But you got to find these ways to like tell your body and tell your brain to let go of that stress because your body keeps the score, dude.
00:59:59
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yeah It really does. And you're like you have to find a way. Well, and not only that, but I'm a huge believer in... um stepping back from a problem in order to see it anew.
01:00:14
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Certainly. um I find that it happens with me a lot with, um you know, let's say a video game, right? I'm trying to learn a new video game.
01:00:25
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The controls maybe are are weird and I can't seem to get it
01:00:32
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i'll go you know I'll put the game down, I'll go to bed, not think about it at all, wake up the next morning, and it feels so much more natural. Even though I haven't been playing, I'm refreshed, I'm a new, and while I wasn't consciously thinking about the game, subconsciously, you know my body and my brain were getting used to the idea.
01:00:53
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It's the same thing with any other problem. If you just sit there and focus on it, you're not seeing the forest through the trees. um you're you're just looking at the problem from one direction you're just sitting there worried staring at it if you let yourself stop thinking about it not completely right i'm not saying just like ignore the problem but let yourself have like you know what it's eight o'clock at night i'm done for now like let me stop worrying about this if i you know and just relax let me do something to cheer myself up
01:01:32
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that relaxation allows your brain to come at this problem in a whole plethora of new ways. You know, ah let it'll help you get your sleep at night, which is scientifically proven to help your brain wrap itself around problems.
01:01:48
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And I think it's it's just a huge ah advantage for problem solving to just let yourself escape that problem for a little bit and be able to come at it refreshed and from a different angle because now you're happy maybe you're willing to try things you weren't when you were upset yep i think like something that i'm the same way when it comes to like video games or yeah like i'm playing silksong right now and that game beats my ass on a regular basis and i'm like well time to walk away from this gotta play that but the thing is is like
01:02:25
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you're you're Your mind processes information when you sleep and when you are giving yourself time away from the the problem or the task. So if you're working on a new skill, when I was a dance instructor, I can't tell you how many times I've had people just insist that we keep going over this move over and over. And I try to change their minds and they say no.
01:02:44
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And I'm like, all right, whatever. And we do it and they hit a roadblock. And finally, we change gears. They go home feeling distraught. They didn't get the move. They come back next lesson in a week. hit it the first try or second try. And I'm like, have you been practicing? Like, you go home? Would you come to a class that I wasn't in?
01:03:00
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No. Like, well, you right. Because you gave yourself fucking time to just like not think about it. Like you if you want to work, if you want to, sorry, go ahead. No, I was going to say you, you put in the work and,
01:03:13
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Then, you you know, much like when you put in your work at your job or if you put in your work on a project at at home, you can only do so much of it before you just have to let your body rest. Like if you're hammering all day, sawing all day, on a computer all day, crunching numbers all day, at some point you just can't do it anymore.
01:03:31
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right You have to stop because your body has to rest. Your brain has to rest. And then your body heals. It grows bigger muscles. You get stronger. You have more stamina for next time. Your brain does the same fucking thing when it comes to processing information.
01:03:45
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So when you step away from it, and you know even if it's for a few moments or a few minutes or an hour, whatever you can squeeze to let yourself feel something other than dread about a problem, go do that thing, right?
01:03:58
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And then ah promise you it'll pay dividends to your mental health. you know And again, it's not always going to solve the problem, but you may get some clarity out of it that you didn't have before. Yeah. Yeah.
01:04:09
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can't stress that enough. I could just, because as a lifelong liver through all sorts of fucking awful things, I could tell you, dude, firsthand firsthand, the reason I can still be the silly goof that I am now is because I never stopped being it when I was suffering the most.
01:04:27
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And ye I gotta say that was, that was like just a little bit of light that got me through so much awful, awful, awful shit. Yeah. Uh, I was going to say if,
01:04:38
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Because I know some people don't maybe don't believe you know this approach. But if you're looking for you know a nice microcosm where this happens, like a nice bite-sized moment of this, think about when there's something on the tip of your tongue.
01:04:55
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When do you finally remember what it is? When you're not thinking about it anymore. yeah forgot the lyric to a song when do you start when do you actually remember it when you stop thinking about it and then start absent-mindedly singing it later and you just keep going and you just sing that bit you forgot before or you're like you're in middle you're in the middle of declaring a thought to somebody else like oh whatever i'll come back to it and you're like so anyway i was doing this oh fuck that what it is it was called george of the jungle that was it's when you you stop thinking about it and you kind of Your brain has a way of processing information subconsciously that it can't do when you're consciously thinking about it.
01:05:33
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Yep. So sometimes you need to just— Short-term memory and long-term memory works in a totally different way, just like building neuropathways can happen in multiple different ways. You need to let your brain rest by doing just mindless bullshit.
01:05:47
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I mean— That's half the reason I play video games. I had a stressful day. i don't, you know, a lot of people like to say, oh, well, there's, you know, people are going and playing video games and shooting people in the game and stuff. And, you know, it's to help. I think we actually talked about this.
01:06:04
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Yeah, Dixon asked that question. um Getting their frustrations out on the game and everything. I don't play a video game for that. I mostly play video games to just,
01:06:15
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give my mind something to focus on that is not my problem at the moment or whatever's got me in a bad mood because by the time I'm done with the game, my mind will probably have had enough time kind of sitting with that issue for me to be like, well, actually that's not, you know, the biggest thing.
01:06:35
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it's And that's another one. I always, um, what's it called? Like the, the five year thing, like, How big an issue is this going to be ah in five days, five weeks, five years, 50 years?
01:06:51
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Seven year itch. What are talking about? Is that what it's called? ah No, that's not it. I don't know what you're talking about. if If something happens that seems devastating at the time, i will all I'll sit down with myself and I'll be like, okay, how bad is this really?
01:07:07
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Like, yeah, it feels real bad right now. But like, a year from now, am I even going to remember that this happened? Probably not.
01:07:20
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So like, or will it seem as big of a, big of a problem? Like, you know, like that's the one thing about having a lot of anxiety about so like, and I know that's something that a lot of people can control. i'm not saying you shouldn't have anxiety. please So don't, you know, that would be shitty for me to say, just stop feeling things.
01:07:36
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But what I'm saying is like, When you like you, what Danny, what it sounds like you're saying is when you apply a certain level of perspective to it, you can think, you know, how big is this really? I know I can realize I'm making a mountain out of a molehill.
01:07:53
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Right. It's hard to see that. But like, i think at least. Anxiety without action is one of the most. destructive and pointless things that you can do.
01:08:06
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Yes. Right? Because you're just sitting there hurting yourself, worrying yourself into pieces over something that there is no action plan for. And maybe that's part of your problem, which is there's no plan.
01:08:18
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But in the meantime, if there isn't a plan, then you might as well try to bring yourself some joy while you're trying to think of one. Because sometimes that's when genius strikes, when your brain is in creative mode, when your brain is in humor mode.
01:08:30
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That's when you find inspiration for problems. And I'm not saying again, that this, these sparks of whimsy will solve your problems or even help you solve your problems, but they will help you get through them and you will get through them.
01:08:43
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You will be resourceful. You will find somebody. If you want to have a plan, you can ask for help. There are resources available. I'm not saying every problem is surmountable anytime soon, but what I am saying is you can,
01:08:57
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Grab a hold of these little bits of joy where you can smile at those dumb baby videos and cat videos on your phone, you know, laugh at the dumb signs. If you see them, you know, I remember one time a couple of winters ago, i discovered that if you throw.
01:09:11
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chunks of hard ice onto a frozen lake and you skip it like a rock. It sounds like a bunch of fucking birds chirping when it spins against the ice. That's cool.
01:09:22
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And it's so fucking cool that every time I get the opportunity now, I try to do it at the one of these lakes nearby because it's such a cool phenomenon. And again, is that going to solve my problems? No, but it sure is a fun thing to do.
01:09:35
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it it makes me not think about the bad things for a minute. Yeah. I mean, I have a Reddit account and it's just, bird videos it's just stupid bird videos that i i will go on to and just watch them whenever i have downtime you know pooping bird videos laying in bed at night bird videos um all hail our president cornelius whoever gets that thank you uh but one thing i wanted to add real quick uh because i know we're keeping this to 20 minutes um
01:10:09
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just to take it off tangent a little bit and to make sure I'm transparent, I do take anxiety medication. This advice we're giving to help you get through your harder days, deal with anxiety, that is all for people experiencing normal anxiety.
01:10:29
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I have generalized anxiety disorder, which meant I would get anxious over literally nothing. There was nothing to think about. From a new perspective, there was nothing to cheer myself up about. It was just my my normal state of being was anxious.
01:10:46
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ah So this is your call out to get that checked, if that's how you feel. If you find yourself always being anxious, it could be because you have general anxiety disorder as well. And that's not um it's not something that you need to feel lesser about.
01:11:08
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you know i Honestly, did not feel like myself anymore. I went to the doctor and miraculously, we actually got it right on the first try. I got the right meds that work great for me.
01:11:19
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ah In his words, my anxiety went from about an 8 out of 10 to a 2 out of 10. And yeah, I'm able to do these things to lift myself up. It's not that I'm not anxious anymore. I'm just not always anxious about nothing.
01:11:36
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I think the best way I heard somebody put it was when you're playing a video game, generalized anxiety disorder is hearing bad, like the the battle music startup in a video game, but you don't see any enemies.
01:11:49
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You start going like, what, where, why? But you're like that all the time. um So yeah, like, don't be afraid. I've know I've talked to a bunch of people that think that it's lesser to take mental meds for any whatever.
01:12:05
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It doesn't mean you're lesser. It just means that you have a, imbalance of chemicals. I also have diabetes. I have a chemical imbalance when it comes to my insulin.
01:12:17
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That doesn't make me any less of a person any more than having a chemical imbalance with whatever the hell causes my anxiety. It's just a quirk my body has that, thank God, we have treatment for.
01:12:30
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So, yeah, don't take this advice as the be-all end-all. I understand that there are people that have issues, mental or otherwise, that would exacerbate all of this, regardless of what you try and do.
01:12:44
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And if that is the case, I very highly recommend going to see if you can't get some kind of treatment for that because it changes your whole outlook on everything. I cannot stress enough how much it helps to find that right medicine. And you might not find it right away.
01:13:01
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It may take a few tries, but this is where those ah techniques to help you get through hard times will come in because you could be like, okay, this medicine's not working, but it'll help keep you motivated to try the next one. All right. Because it can get very hard listeners to take drugs. All right. Just quit trying to push drugs on our list. Just make sure you take the happy drugs. Okay. Yeah. Stop. Yeah. Stop trying to put take the the weird drugs. Don't God.
01:13:28
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Don't take the weird one. Take the happy pills. Yeah. That's right. ah Sorry. I know went off on a much longer tangent than I meant to. No, it's OK. But I do want to say before we wrap up that this isn't just to use it to get to the hard times, because I do it just because I can.
01:13:47
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That's fair. I sang today at home alone. So much so that like that's what and people notice. and I can only talk about my experience. So it sounds like I'm just kind of putting myself in the spotlight here, but I've just, I've been asked about it because I'm just always doing it.
01:14:02
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And Sometimes it might be, and I don't, if I'm doing it because I'm having a bad day, because I'm struggling with something, I'm not actively thinking, oh, I need to do this. It's just like a trained ability. But a lot of times it's just, I see an opportunity to add some whimsy or to pull something funny from a situation and I'm going to do it. And like, ah you know, I won't always do it every time if it doesn't apply or if it might be distracting in a conversation, but especially if I'm alone, but I've been in enough group settings at work and with some new friends that They say, hey, how would you how do you stay so positive? How are you always laughing? How do you always find something to be silly about? like you know can we you know like I struggle sometimes. I don't know how to do that. Can can you give me some tips?
01:14:41
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And that was like a really insightful or ah conversation and and an insight into other people's minds that I don't know how some people see me. I know I'm not everybody's cup of tea. I know there are some people who just do not have time for me or do not want to have time for me.
01:14:55
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And I get it, and I'm not for them, and that's okay. Yeah. but But for the people who ask me these things, I just want to say it's not because I'm constantly in a struggle, right? I don't got a Robin Williams things going on, RIP.
01:15:09
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but But what I am saying is that it helps to keep you afloat even if you're already floating just fine.
The Art of Being Cringy vs. Creepy
01:15:16
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What's wrong with being even more flotatious? It just lets you have more fun in life, which yeah is not a bad thing.
01:15:22
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like um and like Sorry, go ahead. going. No, I i was going to say to finish with that is – There is science behind it. There is mental health reasons behind it.
01:15:33
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There is cortisol level ah benefits behind it Just being able to find joy in situations or to do what I've been saying is be cringy, not creepy.
01:15:45
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The things that people think are cringe, which is a word that I think is taken over internet in a shitty way, it's not. And so for some reason, that word hits so hard like a truck that people seem to think that letting anything out is cringe.
01:15:59
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Doing things that creep out other people stalking them, pranking them, making them feel lesser, making them feel anxious. That's, that's cringe. That's, that's cringe. And that's creepy. If you truly cringe, it's just letting out the inner child that maybe doesn't get to come out as often as they should.
01:16:16
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That's all that is. So if someone says you're being cringe, cause you're the first one on the dance floor and you're not drunk, that's not cringe. That's just them wishing they had the bravery to do what you're doing now. right They're going to pretend like they're judging you when really they're mad at themselves. right So you can be you can be a frontrunner in or or like an inspiration for someone to a trailblazer is what i was gonna say you can be a trailblazer for people who ultimately may not go and dance until you go and dance right and they may join you just because they don't want to be the first ones on the floor and you know why they don't want to be the first ones on the floor because they think people are going to watch and judge them and you know when i get on the floor i don't fucking care
01:17:00
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I don't care because there's music playing that I like when something comes on that like, Oh fuck. Yeah. I'm getting out there, dude. And I don't care what it looks like, but I'm having a good time. And so i'm just saying,
01:17:12
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Don't do it. This isn't specifically just ah to get you through the dark times thing. It's just to do it because you feel a lot more free and happy as a person, right? Like even if life is going great for you, it doesn't mean that you don't have your anxieties, that you don't think things are cringy or that you don't see what other people are doing and wish you could be like them. Or like, oh, I can't believe that person would just go dance like that. Or that person would just go out there and get up in front of a stage. Oh, I could never do that. I could never sing in front of everybody. Like, who the fuck cares?
01:17:41
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You're not hurting anybody. Let's go have fun. So like, anyway, I just wanted to rope that all into it. Like, it's not just about like preserving your mental health in a dark place. It's about keeping it preserved, even in a good place. Like, just keep a going.
01:17:54
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Make it a practice of your day. Laugh at this silly shit. Make those jokes. build Build something funny. Do a shitty painting. Whatever it is that you're just like, I want to try that thing, even if I'm going to suck at it. yeah And don't be afraid to laugh at it.
01:18:07
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Yeah. It's okay. It's fine. Yeah, fuck up with confidence. Be cringy, not creepy. That's my new motto for the rest of the year is be cringy, not creepy. um But i was also going to say one of the best things about.
01:18:21
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Kind of ah brightening up your world like this and adding whimsy to stuff. Like attracts like. So you'll start making friends that also act like this, like.
01:18:33
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I just made a whole bunch of new friends yeah in real life. and Plus meeting Adam. We've only met a couple of years ago now. God, time moves so quick. um But like,
01:18:46
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you You act silly and you attract silly people who want to be silly with you. You know, we recently had a party at my friend's house nowhere near Halloween, but we were all dressed in our Ren Faire stuff because it was a D&D themed ah like huge gathering and we were all stupid.
01:19:04
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And because you just made me think of this, a thought experiment for us. I wonder if the fact that we don't mind being silly contributes to the fact that me and you especially, but also my other friends don't drink at all.
01:19:21
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Like may I almost never drink. You don't drink at all. but My friends will maybe have like the occasional hard drink. I drink maybe like two beers a year. And I wonder if part of that is because me and you and my friends, we do things sober that most people have to get drunk to do.
01:19:42
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And thinking about it like that, I'm like, Well, I think that's what it is, is people drink in order to get into that mind thinking it'll put them in the mind space that we're just always at.
01:19:54
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And there's our secret. And that's how you get into that mind space. Just be silly. And you maintain you not even need to drink anymore because you'll just naturally be in that more carefree and freeing headspace that you think drinking will get you to.
01:20:09
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Yeah, and it's very telling, too. And this isn't a this I'm not going to turn this into a drinkers versus anti drinkers thing. But I will say, as the person who's usually the only sober one at a party. um Like, man, i just think you ever see that meme from Invincible where ah Ultraman points it like the the humans flying around and like the the. Oh, yeah. See how much they need to.
01:20:33
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get a fraction of our power. of our power That's what I think when I'm just like, man, look at how much alcohol they have to consume to even mirror a fraction of my power. I'm just like, yeah you have to have at least three to get on the levels that I'm at, baby.
01:20:50
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so anyway, I mean, maybe I don't, I don't know for sure. Everybody has their reasons, but it's definitely a social lubricant that, you know, I've never needed. Cause I know um plenty of people that are like, Oh, I need to drink to have fun. And I'm like, Oh, well I certainly don't.
01:21:03
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Right. um People just find a thing that tastes the least shitty. and But again, i yeah I'm not judging anybody who does drink. You know, look, it's up to you as long as you're doing it in a healthy way for you and other people.
01:21:17
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I don't give a rat's ass what you do. I'm not your queen. Yas, queen. I'm not your dad. I don't care what you do. Just don't do anything that hurts yourself or others, please. And if I were your dad, I would say, hey.
01:21:30
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Did you take a bath today? Hey. Get in there. Are you gonna take that bath? No dinner tonight. It's time for the family bath. It's your dad, Crom.
01:21:41
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Time to get in the bathtub. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Squeak him, squeak him. Can we go now? It's been like forever. I was gonna say, we should probably stop.
01:21:53
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um But as you guys can tell, mental health is important to us. But hey, if you like this episode, please let us know and go on to FundestallersNetwork.biz and say hi to us on there if you have any questions or follow-ups to this episode.
01:22:06
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And of course, we have our store up now. We are currently making some more. And I have a nice little partnership with a new friend I made who was drawing us a very simple drawing. So I don't know if they'll be up at the posting this episode, but they might.
01:22:17
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If you see one of those. Or with a snail. Huh? Oh, oh right, right, right. That one. What were you talking about? Yeah, yeah. yeah I thought you meant a drawing of us. no No, no. I know which one you're talking about now.
01:22:29
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yeah ah But yeah, you know, we have a couple up there. We're trying to do like a literal label um shirt
Whimsical Merchandise and Closing Thoughts
01:22:35
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line. So i have one that's just called Bucket.
01:22:39
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Just a shirt that has a bucket on it. And that is a reference to... A bucket. Just my old friendship with Justin. Many, many, many years ago, we were going to write a story called Scary Tales. Actually, we started writing it and it was kind of like a
01:23:01
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It was kind of like a like an offshoot supernatural. And so instead of the Winchester boys, it was Dan Smith and Sean Wesson. And we based them off of me and him.
01:23:13
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And so when he was drawing the character concept, he's like, what do you want on your shirt? And I don't know why, and like ah like a tired haze. I was like, ah bucket? that And he's like he's like, you just want a bucket on your shirt? And I was like yeah, but I wanted to say bucket underneath it.
01:23:26
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And he's like, all right. And then he drew it. And I was like, someday I'm going to have that shirt. Someone should make that shirt because it's so fucking cool to have a shirt that says bucket. See, this is the stupid whimsy we're talking about.
01:23:40
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but Laugh at the shirt, damn it. It's so stupid. but like Wait, wait. This is very important, though. Which one were you? i was Sean Wesson. He was Dan. Yeah, well, i was not. I couldn't be Dan because you're Dan.
01:23:56
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Well, now that was before I was born. But yeah, i oh I just thought Wesson was a cooler last name. If we' we're going to be Smith and Wesson, I wanted to be. well No, that is very good.
01:24:07
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Yeah. ah Smith is just too generic of a name. So i wanted dan Smith and Sean Wesson. So the smith the Smith and Wesson boys are going. There was a dnd group i was in where one of the guys names was calvin and he had a pet named hobbs nice so i made a character and named him klein for calvin klein i love i was gonna say klein yeah so we were calvin and hobs and calvin and klein that's awesome calvin or hobs hobs and klein nobody knew they needed that's right
01:24:42
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but But anyway, if you guys wouldn't mind checking that out, if you like it, if the Bucket shirt is on there, it would be my esteemed pleasure to know there are people out in the world who are wearing his bucket.
01:24:55
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That has been ah goal of mine for so long. And I didn't know that I would be the one to make it. I just thought I would wish it in the universe. And someday someone would have a bucket shirt and they may be out there somewhere, but not the way that I was imagining it. And I had a friend draw up a mock up of it. And I thought, yeah, that's awesome.
01:25:15
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and i just want to put On a shirt and average shirt is ah is it on the it's on the store now. I haven't finished it yet because I was trying to get the right ah pixelation for the the site to let me make it it the size i needed it so we had to like tinker with the the the uh pixel sizes a bit but i got it it's good i just have to go on there and actually do it um but they should be up there pretty soon and so by the time this episode comes out i imagine it at least bucket and maybe snail will be up there and then she just like they just sent me one that says soup
01:25:49
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it's good It just says soup, but it looks like it's cereal, which led us into the conversation of cereal or is cereal soup? Cereal. It looks like cereal, but they scoba I think soup is, or I think cereal is absolutely a soup.
01:26:06
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I don't know if I need to add them, have them add like some like vapor lines or something to show that it's hot. I don't know. But anyway, i just, that's one of those things that has always tickled me. I don't know why Bucket and just like, be just the picture of the thing and the label of what it is, is so funny to me. And I don't know why, but that's another one of those. Just you find whimsy in the dumb shit, dude. And so if you want to take some whimsy out into the world and someone looks at your shirt and they go Bucket and you go, yeah, dude.
01:26:34
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Bucket. Bucket. Right?
01:26:38
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I don't know why that's so funny. Completely straight face though. yeah Bucket. Why? and Bucket. Bucket. ah Anyway, please support the show in any way that you can by listening as if you already made it here.
01:26:51
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Share it to people who you think might enjoy it. That's a free way to support the show as well. If you can afford a shirt in these tough economic times, great. If you can't, and don't buy anything. Save your money. It's tough out there.
01:27:02
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No problem. ah You know, just the listening is still great. Thank you for that. Just keep listening to us be dummies. Yeah, or go back and listen some other episodes and let us know if ah you liked old formats or if there's some words.
01:27:16
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segments we should bring back. I don't know. What else did we do, Danny? We did... I found some funny words for a while there, like slang words, I think. Yeah, the slang. old school slang. um I don't know. I kind of like the simplicity of just bullshitting for an hour.
01:27:31
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Or an hour and a half. Yeah, well, look, if you made it through this marathon of an episode, God bless you. or not splitting it. <unk>s I'm not splitting it. No, I know. That's fine.
01:27:43
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Or, you know, whatever... deity, you may or may not worship, bless you, um for making it this long into this episode where we literally have had the most ups and downs, I think, of any episode.
01:28:00
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We got very deep about halfway through that. And then we came falling back up. That's what makes it show great, Danny, is that we can see we're not just two idiots. We have depth.
01:28:12
Speaker
It's there somewhere. I just i haven't found it. it just the depth of my heart for interpersonal and personal connections can rival that of the Dead Sea.
01:28:29
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But the shallowness of what I will find funny on a moment's notice is like barely it's it's it's but the condensation on a window, man.
01:28:42
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It's just like I don't need much to like it's not even the droplet. It's like the trail behind the droplet. Yeah, exactly. I don't need much, man. And I think that's like my greatest superpower is that just.
01:28:58
Speaker
I can laugh in a lot of situations that I probably shouldn't. um But anyway, Danny, why don't you send us out with any final remarks? ah sorry. It's okay.
01:29:11
Speaker
it's okay Oh my God. I'm so sorry. You were just so boring. ah Anyway, thank you all so much for listening. We really do appreciate each and every one of you. We absolutely do. Hi, Terry.
01:29:24
Speaker
Hey, sorry. Danny's doing the closing messages. What were saying? Yeah. Hey, mom. Yeah, muted. Yeah, im muted. Yeah, he can't hear me. yeah Yeah, he's just chewing into the mic. what it What's that? Yeah, your son just told me I was boring.
01:29:38
Speaker
Yeah. Can you fuck up? Yeah, that's what he said, Terry. Huh? My mom's name is not Terry. I can't put you... No.
01:29:48
Speaker
No, I can't do that. Huh? What'd you say, Danny? Sorry. i'm ah like You can hear me? My mom's name is not Terry. What's your mom's name? Terry. It's Gabe? Yes.
01:30:01
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No, don't put Gabe on Terry. Hi, Gabe. Hey. No, I was talking to your... No, it's not anything... No, i i know I mean, I know I'm single, but I'm not trying to do... no, no, no, no. no i Gabe, please.
01:30:16
Speaker
Gabe, we talked about this at our last online poker night. Listen, you still have to teach me how to play poker. No, I definitely muted this time. Danny can't hear me.
01:30:27
Speaker
Huh? Yeah, he called me boring. That's why I called your wife, because she makes me feel better about the things that your son says. No, I'm not going to do that to him. He is marriage to Mbeluga two.
01:30:39
Speaker
That's what we call her so people don't know her real name. All right. All right. I knew you were fucking with me. All right, buddy. Can you put Terry back on? Oh, I'm not muted shit. Anyway, hang on one second. I got to tell Danny to finish the show. Hey, Danny, why are you talking?
01:30:54
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Sorry. i I was just zoning out, I guess. um Hating everything about my life. So anyway. yeah So what are you wearing? Nope, nope, end the episode there, I'm done. Nope. No, no, no, no, no.
01:31:12
Speaker
Flush that, you bitch.