Introduction and Teasers
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Sex Robot
Why are you conquests Ryan? I gotta, I gotta to ask.
00:00:04
Conquest
Watch Invincible.
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Sex Robot
I know who he is.
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Conquest
I don't even get a name. Only a purpose.
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Cokeley Brothers
Reese's Reese reis also only gets a purpose.
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Sex Robot
yep I only have one. Why is he here?
Transfer Portal Highlights
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Sex Robot
What does he want?
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Cokeley Brothers
Welcome back to the barn session, everybody.
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Cokeley Brothers
ah What are we talking about today, Ryan?
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Conquest
Dude, we got some stuff.
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Cokeley Brothers
but yeah Well, yeah, well, yeah, just a little,
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Conquest
ah come out Talk about recent transfer portal news and maybe talk about what some of these lineups are going to look at look like.
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Cokeley Brothers
Seriously. there And there has been a lot of a lot of transfer buzz. I don't remember. I think Rocco Welsh had just announced his transfer on the last episode.
National Duels Formation
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Sex Robot
about it. Is that what you're saying?
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Cokeley Brothers
roco Rocco, yeah, Rocco transferred to Penn State.
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Cokeley Brothers
Zack Ryder leaves like not that long after and then today zach writer zach raider announces i'm going to oklahoma state so now we have to get penn state to oklahoma state there is no other option
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Conquest
good Yeah, two days later.
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Cokeley Brothers
at least that's the way i see it yes and so no
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Conquest
That is the duel to make.
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Conquest
Because baby, now we got
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Sex Robot
Don't. Don't. Don't not indulge him.
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Cokeley Brothers
So we have the national duels also being formed this month for next season.
Will Penn State Join National Duels?
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Cokeley Brothers
And the way they announced it is there's going to be 16 teams, the top 12 from the previous NCAA tournament. So first place through 12th place.
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Cokeley Brothers
All are automatically invited. And then the next 12 teams, well, 13th to 24th place, which is actually 14 teams because there was a four-way tie for place.
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Cokeley Brothers
Four of those teams also get randomly selected for the duels. And one of those teams is Indiana.
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Conquest
Well, we know...
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Conquest
We know one team isn't showing up for show.
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Cokeley Brothers
What team is that?
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Cokeley Brothers
Why are they for sure not showing up?
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Conquest
Kale Sanderson already said it.
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Cokeley Brothers
He didn't say that. I don't think he said flat out, we won't go if it happens.
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Sex Robot
I think he did.
Penn State Wrestling Lineup Speculation
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Cokeley Brothers
He said, i don't think every all of the best teams need to be there, is what he said.
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Conquest
mean, one way or another.
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Conquest
Yeah, that's pretty much... Saying with without saying, isn't it?
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Sex Robot
What else did he say?
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Conquest
Didn't he also say, I'm going to treat it like I treated the last national duels and not participate?
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Cokeley Brothers
I mean, that...
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Cokeley Brothers
i don't think so.
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Cokeley Brothers
I don't think he said that at all. Really?
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Conquest
I thought he did say that some or something.
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Sex Robot
Well, he said a lot more than what you, the one thing you just repeated.
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Conquest
What else did he say recently?
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Sex Robot
i don't know, but there was a lot more than that.
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Sex Robot
I'll look it up.
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Conquest
All right. So what's Penn State going to look like next year though?
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Cokeley Brothers
ah Well, you have it pulled up here.
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Conquest
They've got lots options.
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Conquest
they've got lots of options
Ono's Integration at Penn State
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Cokeley Brothers
Right. their Their lineup this year was Luke Lilladol, Braden Davis, Bo Bartlett, Shane Van Ness, Tyler Kasach, Mitchell Mesenbrink, Levi Haynes, Starachi, Barr, and Kirkfleet.
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Cokeley Brothers
Next year...
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Conquest
So they lose. They are losing Bo Bartlett, Carter Starachi, and Greg Kirkfleet.
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Conquest
They've also just lost Ryder to the transfer portal, as well as Facundo and Steen.
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Cokeley Brothers
Zach Ryder. Yeah.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So everybody that was in a spot last year almost certainly is going to be there again. It's going to be Lilladol.
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Cokeley Brothers
Well, I say that, but 133 is a different story. Most likely.
00:04:08
Cokeley Brothers
I can't remember. Oh, dake Dake mentioned in his interview with Flo that Ono started to get to work once he but announced that he was going to wrestle for Penn State. And he said that once he started getting to work, that there won't be a problem.
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Cokeley Brothers
The way he's moving and and a jet and ah adapting to folk style, he's going to be ready.
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Conquest
Anyone with a brain knew that there was not there, the growing pains were not going to be that bad for this kid.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, no kidding.
00:04:37
Conquest
strong, compact, he's explosive. like bottom Bottom is not going to be hard.
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Cokeley Brothers
Dude, I feel like he's going to be a sit out master.
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Conquest
And then you're at Penn State. like You're going to learn. Yeah.
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Cokeley Brothers
He's so he's just so crabby and he'll just pop out like a spring.
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Conquest
I took ah took a crack. Yes, grippy, as John Smith would say.
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Sex Robot
but do you What are you, what are you shaking your head for? That's the right term.
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Cokeley Brothers
I've never heard that term used that way.
Future Lineup Breakdown
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Conquest
Yeah, John Smith, real grippy wrestling.
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Cokeley Brothers
I know I have. I have. I have not heard that, at least not recently.
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Sex Robot
Guy didn't even watch the Olympics.
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Cokeley Brothers
What? Oh, the commentary. Yeah.
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Conquest
You don't remember that?
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Cokeley Brothers
I don't remember. i don't remember listening to the commentary actually is what I'm realizing because this was Katie had no surgery and I didn't want that playing over her show because she had this.
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Conquest
oh well, this is this is 2021, sir. He said lot.
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Cokeley Brothers
Oh, 2021. I definitely don't remember it then. I don't remember. Yeah. I watched that in the middle of the night. i At Katie's apartment, and she was asleep. So the volume was off.
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Conquest
he said it a lot
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Cokeley Brothers
So. Well.
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Conquest
Anyway, I'm going to take a crack at this, at what this 2026 lineup for Penn State's going to be, if you guys don't mind.
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Cokeley Brothers
let's hear it. Let's hear it.
00:05:51
Conquest
All right. I'm going to take a crack at it, and then I'm going to give you my rationale for some of it.
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Sex Robot
Are we going to hit? We're hear. Is this Penn State? You said.
00:06:03
Conquest
Yes, Penn State.
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Conquest
Here's what I got. I got Luke Lilldall, Masanosuke Ono, Marcus Blase, Shane Van Ness, PJ Duke, Mitchell Messenbrink, Levi Haynes, Rocco Wells, Josh Barr, Cole Mirasola.
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Conquest
I got Braden Davis red shirting.
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Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
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Conquest
I got, uh, and I got Tyler Kasach also taking a red shirt, taking a year off, getting, getting it healed up.
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Sex Robot
Who's at 74? Oh, that's right.
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Conquest
I have Levi at 74.
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Cokeley Brothers
Haynes. Yeah.
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Conquest
So really the only ones I'm like, you know, it's kind of like question marks are what?
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Cokeley Brothers
Ryan, you have Levi Haynes going into 20, 27.
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Sex Robot
This would be his last year.
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Cokeley Brothers
This is, we're going into his senior year.
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Conquest
No, this is 2026.
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Cokeley Brothers
I know. and And then I see the next year is 20, 27.
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Conquest
No. yeah, yeah. I know, I know, I know. I got to get rid of that.
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Conquest
Yeah, I knew that. I just haven't deleted it yet.
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Conquest
Anyway, um yeah, so the really the only question marks I have for this year is 57.
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Cokeley Brothers
Keep going.
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Conquest
fifty seven Not sure. ah just feel like KSAC, he's probably a good candidate to redshirt. He's a little banged up. Maybe he gets sealed up. He let PJ Duke slide in there for one year at 57. Then you...
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Sex Robot
What do they do after that?
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Conquest
Yeah, then they swap. Then PJ redshirts, Tyler wrestles, Messenbrink graduates, and then Duke slides up to 65.
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Sex Robot
Oh, Richard. Oh,
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Cokeley Brothers
But then,
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Cokeley Brothers
and, and then you have Joe's okay. We'll keep going.
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Sex Robot
just see, he's transferring.
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Conquest
yeah that's josie but What do you mean? Keep going. Okay. um and i got So I got Ono starting right away. I think that's probably a no-brainer, right? Or is or is that maybe a no?
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Sex Robot
I don't, I feel like there's a lot of questions around what his, what he's really doing.
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Conquest
I feel like to optimize, I guess, your lineup, you would want to wrestle him right away at 133 because how long is he be able to make 133? You know what i mean
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Cokeley Brothers
ah well Do we think he'll be able to make 133 right now?
00:08:27
Conquest
I think so, Yes.
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Cokeley Brothers
Will he just wrestle a limited schedule?
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Conquest
Maybe. I don't know. Here's the other thing. Here's the other thing, too. Is he possibly trying to make 57 kilos for 2028? I heard that was a thing.
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Cokeley Brothers
I believe he said that. Yeah.
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Conquest
Yeah, so maybe he stays at 33 his whole career. I don't know. Probably not, but...
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Sex Robot
Do you think he stays for all his whole, you think he uses all his eligibility? I doubt it.
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Cokeley Brothers
That's a great question.
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Conquest
How much eligibility do they give him?
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Cokeley Brothers
I think four.
00:09:00
Conquest
They give him four years?
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Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:09:02
Conquest
You don't think he uses all four?
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Sex Robot
wouldn't say don't know.
00:09:03
Conquest
Why would he not use all four?
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Cokeley Brothers
If he just does it, he's like, okay, that that was cool. I'm done.
00:09:09
Conquest
I guess you could do that.
00:09:10
Cokeley Brothers
Odeguro just retired at 26.
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Sex Robot
He's retired. That's
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Cokeley Brothers
Yes. He just announced today that he's retired.
00:09:16
Conquest
Has he retired a few times?
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Cokeley Brothers
No, I don't think so, Ryan.
00:09:22
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe Ray did. i don't know.
Impact of Transfers on Teams
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Sex Robot
Ray's still wrestling.
00:09:30
Conquest
Basically, I don't know if Aaron Nagao is ever going to make the lineup ever again.
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Cokeley Brothers
He's probably not.
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Sex Robot
Guess the, you know, hope the money was worth it. That's all I'm going to say.
00:09:43
Cokeley Brothers
He can go somewhere else.
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Sex Robot
Leaving Minnesota.
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Cokeley Brothers
so some Some other school will value him.
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Sex Robot
Doing Minnesota dirty.
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Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I think so.
00:09:53
Cokeley Brothers
I think if you want to start, you should get out.
00:10:01
Sex Robot
That's 100% right.
00:10:03
Cokeley Brothers
And I think, you know, I, I understand being in a room that it has a lot of great training partners and I understand wanting to be around that environment, but you also, you gotta be a little selfish in this sport. You gotta take care of yourself and say, I want to, if,
00:10:21
Cokeley Brothers
If I want to have the chance to actually end up on the podium, which is what I've always wanted to do, then I can't do that from the bench. It's impossible.
00:10:29
Conquest
Can't do it from the bench.
00:10:29
Cokeley Brothers
So I got a i gotta to get out there and wrestle for a different team.
00:10:35
Conquest
Yeah, well hinkle.
00:10:41
Conquest
Just really he's gonna make the lineup here in 2028. Alright, I haven't making it.
00:10:45
Cokeley Brothers
the... mirror The Mira Solas might be boned.
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Conquest
At least one of them.
00:10:52
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I don't see them not going to the same school, though.
00:10:56
Cokeley Brothers
just don't see it.
00:10:58
Sex Robot
They'll get that twins separation anxiety.
00:11:02
Conquest
Well, if so, if they both leave, then then Penn State would probably be screwed at heavyweight.
00:11:08
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, Cochran gets up there.
00:11:08
Sex Robot
Good. They'll find somebody.
00:11:11
Conquest
Cochran, how old is Cochran?
00:11:14
Cokeley Brothers
I think this will be his last year.
00:11:16
Conquest
He needs to leave. He's a transfer.
00:11:18
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think he's going to do it, dude. think he would have done it by now. i think he would have gone back to Utah Valley.
00:11:22
Conquest
No, you have till but up ti May 2nd.
00:11:25
Sex Robot
Speaking of heavyweights,
00:11:25
Cokeley Brothers
No, I'm talking about last year.
00:11:29
Cokeley Brothers
Speaking of heavyweights.
00:11:29
Sex Robot
are there really like any transcendent or like really high level heavyweight high school recruits right now?
00:11:35
Cokeley Brothers
Koi, maybe? Hopki?
00:11:38
Sex Robot
Who's that? Oh, Hopki. Well, he's in college.
00:11:41
Conquest
don't know, really. um don't even know.
00:11:43
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe Jude Correa?
00:11:47
Conquest
Kobe Merrill is coming up, I think.
00:11:48
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, oh, oh, oh. Treshawn Ross.
00:11:52
Sex Robot
Yeah, I mean, obviously ro Ross is โ he's not a heavyweight, but he'd probably be a heavyweight.
00:11:57
Cokeley Brothers
He'll be a heavyweight. I sat behind him at Juco's. I was like, this kid's big.
00:12:02
Sex Robot
He's not that big though.
00:12:03
Conquest
So he's got a very big friend.
00:12:04
Cokeley Brothers
And lanky.
00:12:06
Conquest
He's like yours.
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Sex Robot
I mean, I've seen him.
00:12:09
Conquest
It's taller than Sammy.
00:12:10
Cokeley Brothers
you he'll be like a He'll be like a Ben Keeter type guy.
00:12:15
Sex Robot
think he's as small as Ben Keeter.
00:12:15
Cokeley Brothers
But he's also...
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Cokeley Brothers
No, but I don't think he'll fill out as much as Ben Keter did. ah
00:12:23
Sex Robot
Well, that means, yeah.
00:12:23
Cokeley Brothers
He kind of has to. He kind of has to.
00:12:33
Cokeley Brothers
Anyway, yeah, maybe Heavyweight's going to be down for a little bit, but also nobody really considered Wyatt Hendrickson to be this transcendental guy, and yet he was amazing for a while.
00:12:44
Sex Robot
Transcendental.
00:12:46
Conquest
Those who knew knew.
00:12:49
Sex Robot
When I saw him whoop up old AJ. ah what's his last name? Sorry. Sorry, AJ.
00:12:59
Conquest
are you talking about?
00:13:01
Cokeley Brothers
AJ Cooper.
00:13:03
Sex Robot
Yeah, when I saw him whoop up on old AJ Cooper. was like, damn.
00:13:08
Cokeley Brothers
That was the bar?
00:13:10
Sex Robot
No, that's more like sarcasm.
00:13:10
Cokeley Brothers
Wait, when was this?
00:13:12
Sex Robot
That was at Fort Hayes at the, ah yeah.
00:13:13
Conquest
Is that is that the Bob?
00:13:14
Conquest
Is that the Bob s Smith?
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Cokeley Brothers
I couldn't tell if this was when he was in high school or when he was wrestling for the Air Force.
00:13:18
Conquest
No, this was his this was his this was his year at the at the Prep Academy.
00:13:23
Cokeley Brothers
Prep. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:13:24
Conquest
and he ready He beat AJ and then he beat the UNK kid who was also a couple-time All-American D2.
00:13:31
Cokeley Brothers
D2. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:33
Conquest
He had a good tournament.
00:13:37
Cokeley Brothers
No, I...
00:13:38
Conquest
Reese, you wrestled D2, you loser.
00:13:45
Conquest
So, all right, what do you guys think, though? You think that's probably a ah the lineup that they'll roll with, or do you think they'll go something different? You think maybe Braden Davis comes back at 33, and maybe they register?
00:13:56
Conquest
Oh, no, what do you guys hope he does.
00:13:57
Sex Robot
I don't know. I feel like, oh no, I'm like not sure if he's wrestling or what. If he's going to for real start for them or how that's going to work.
00:14:10
Sex Robot
PJ Duke, I could see that.
00:14:14
Cokeley Brothers
Do you have... oh okay. I see what you've done here.
00:14:17
Conquest
hey I've adjusted it. I've now adjusted it. I have PJ Duke never taking a red shirt.
00:14:21
Cokeley Brothers
see that.
00:14:24
Cokeley Brothers
Wow. Mesenbrink going up to 74. Okay. Okay.
00:14:27
Sex Robot
These kids don't want a red shirt no more.
00:14:29
Cokeley Brothers
Some of these some of these kids just have to go. ah They're just going to they're just going to have to leave if they want to be an all-American level guy, which that that doesn't always happen. That
Recruitment and Lineup Strategies
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Cokeley Brothers
doesn't always end up being in the case.
00:14:39
Cokeley Brothers
You get guys that are all-American caliber on the bench.
00:14:39
Conquest
Hey, and I haven't, I haven't even, there are, there are some recruits that they got coming in that I haven't even put in here yet. Like, uh, like that Sam Herring kid. When's he ever going to, I mean, I like that kid too.
00:14:51
Conquest
just don't see it.
00:14:51
Cokeley Brothers
Probably not.
00:14:52
Conquest
just don't see it.
00:14:54
Cokeley Brothers
No, because what he comes in, he'll be a red shirt in 2027.
00:14:58
Sex Robot
He should also, he should find a new home.
00:14:59
Cokeley Brothers
He can find could find the lineup, but he should probably find a new home. Because I'm guessing...
00:15:05
Conquest
They'll recruit right over that kid. I mean, you saw him do it to Zach Ryder.
00:15:08
Cokeley Brothers
Dude. yeah Okay, so do we think...
00:15:11
Cokeley Brothers
Alright, I want to ask some questions about that.
00:15:14
Cokeley Brothers
Do we think this is a sign of like a change in what Penn State's doing? Do you think they...
00:15:20
Sex Robot
Dale has over recruited always.
00:15:23
Cokeley Brothers
yeah Okay, and so he's just got this open-door policy and he's he's committed to it?
00:15:28
Conquest
I mean, listen, you just don't turn kids away. If they want to be part of your program, you you know you let them be part of your program. Now, whether you want to give them money or not, that's that's up to you. you know you can And Kale could very well be like, yeah, Rocco, come on aboard. But like I don't have a scholarship for you or I don't have NIL for you. like I don't really have โ you're just going to have to come on your own if you really want to come. And maybe that's what happened.
00:15:54
Conquest
But it's not you're not going to tell a good kid, like, no, don't come to my program.
00:15:59
Sex Robot
So you think Rocco reached out to him?
00:16:02
Sex Robot
Reached out to them?
00:16:05
Cokeley Brothers
You don't think Kale's going scorched earth to to like shut down, to put David Taylor in his place.
00:16:13
Cokeley Brothers
You don't.
00:16:14
Sex Robot
I don't think so.
00:16:14
Conquest
I, well, I mean, no, I i don't, I don't know.
00:16:14
Cokeley Brothers
It doesn't feel like there wasn't a step up.
00:16:19
Conquest
i I just, I don't feel like
00:16:20
Sex Robot
don't think he's changed anything.
00:16:22
Conquest
I don't feel like Kale was like, all right, to b to stay one step ahead of Taylor, I need to go poach a guy from Tom Ryan.
00:16:22
Cokeley Brothers
don't think so.
00:16:32
Conquest
I do not think that that's โ I got a guy in Zack Ryder.
00:16:36
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Right.
00:16:38
Conquest
And then even if Ryder doesn't work out, I can drop Barr down to 84.
00:16:39
Cokeley Brothers
ah but and
00:16:43
Conquest
I can put another Mirasol in it. a you know No, I do not think Kale went after Rocco Welsh. No.
00:16:51
Cokeley Brothers
Do you think that if, if Kale was, if there was no real momentum for any other team and it was just like Penn state next topic without even, without even thinking about four years out from now, do you think he would have been like, yeah, Rocco, it would be amazing to have you a part of our team, but Hey, we've got it. We've got a guy at one 84 and we really believe in him. And, and we, you know, if you want to be a part of this team, you know, you're, you're going to be,
00:17:18
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. i it is weird to, to work on or to have a kid who is so dedicated to being a part of a program. Like, like I was seeing all sorts of stuff about Zach Ryder being a Penn state guy early on in his life.
00:17:30
Conquest
Yeah, you see you see, you saw the picture where he's like got all those pictures of him growing up with Cale Sanderson or whatever, and it did kind of make you feel like, oh my goodness, that sucks.
00:17:36
Cokeley Brothers
It's kale. Yeah. It dude. Yeah.
00:17:42
Conquest
He just got essentially pushed out by his his hero.
00:17:42
Cokeley Brothers
If you've got this.
00:17:45
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Yeah. If you've got this guy who you're just looking up to all the time, And it's like, okay, like I'm in a red shirt. I'm behind a guy who's going for history, but he's an all American, he was an all American caliber wrestler this year.
00:17:57
Conquest
shoot, he could have won it.
00:17:58
Cokeley Brothers
And writer.
00:17:59
Conquest
He's right there with
00:18:00
Sex Robot
You think he could have won it?
00:18:00
Conquest
Keck and Mac and Mac and Mac and Nelly.
00:18:02
Cokeley Brothers
and i don't think so.
00:18:03
Conquest
You don't think so?
00:18:04
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think so.
00:18:04
Conquest
think so. think so.
00:18:05
Cokeley Brothers
Hey, I had, i mean, I think it's an all American level guy. Now. I don't think he was, he's like, I don't think, I think he's a step below right now. i think he's a step below Mac and Nelly.
00:18:18
Cokeley Brothers
And i mean, he had sudden victory match with AJ Heig with, with Cartagena Walsh and Cartagena Walsh was good, but you know, he was beating everybody that wrestled. i just, I wasn't like super convinced that this guy is going to be firing out the gates. I think he was going to take his lumps if he wrestled this year, but even still you have a guy that good and he really looks up to you and it's, ah it would be an amazing look culturally for, for your, you know, just the team.
00:18:44
Cokeley Brothers
And you say,
00:18:45
Conquest
I'm telling you, Cale's not going to say no. He's just not going No one would.
00:18:50
Conquest
No one's going to tell you to kick rocks. What you going to stay at home stay or stay at Ohio State?
00:18:56
Cokeley Brothers
Or, you know, we're not accepting this this job position right now. I don't know, dude. I just... I mean, I don't know. Can you do that? If you had Zack Ryder in that situation, would you be able to do that to him?
00:19:10
Conquest
um I don't think he's doing anything to Zach Ryder.
00:19:15
Cokeley Brothers
Interesting.
00:19:17
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. Because that feels heartless.
00:19:18
Sex Robot
I mean, we're acting like we're acting like Rocco Welsh is like way better than Zack Ryder.
00:19:24
Conquest
yeah He's not there. They're interchangeable in my mind.
00:19:34
Cokeley Brothers
I don't want to disagree, but I do think Zack Ryder still has a lot to prove.
00:19:38
Sex Robot
It's not like ah when he had Seth Nevels, who was a really, really high recruit coming out of high school and then got Greg Kirkplate to transfer. ah that that was That was the situation where he got totally over-recruited and was like, well, you're not going to make the starting lineup now.
00:19:54
Conquest
Well, that was because, dude, Greg only went there because Snyder decided to change locations for training.
00:19:59
Sex Robot
I mean, I'm not ah month casting judgment or i'm not throwing any stones.
Team Dynamics and Wrestler Development
00:20:05
Sex Robot
I'm just hating what happened.
00:20:06
Cokeley Brothers
That's yeah, I hear what you're saying.
00:20:07
Conquest
But I'm not saying, that's that wasn't that again, that was not Cale Saderson going after another guy.
00:20:13
Sex Robot
I'm not saying he was.
00:20:15
Cokeley Brothers
No, yeah, yeah, that's.
00:20:15
Conquest
that was That was, you know, just kind of felt, he he got Kyle Snyder, and by getting Kyle Snyder, he got Greg Kirkfleet.
00:20:23
Cokeley Brothers
Right, Rhys is pointing out an example of of the exact same thing, but with a much bigger disparity between the quality of the two.
00:20:29
Sex Robot
Yeah, where it's like you're not going to make the lineup now, whereas Zack Ryder could have totally still made the lineup, I think.
00:20:30
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, i got you.
00:20:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I i think Rocco would be the favorite going into a match like that right now. ah But she Zack Ryder, with his international accomplishment, I see that the ceiling is very high for him.
00:20:51
Cokeley Brothers
And with how good he's been for how long he's been wrestling, he's been relevant. I mean, he yeah, when was the last time he lost to a US guy?
00:21:00
Cokeley Brothers
Probably been a while.
00:21:04
Conquest
Well, now he's going to Oklahoma State.
00:21:08
Conquest
Does that segue us into our next lineup here?
00:21:08
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, he is.
00:21:12
Cokeley Brothers
ah Over Okie State. Let's take a look at it.
00:21:17
Conquest
So, you know, this year they rolled out the solid team of Troy Spratley. At 33, they went with โ who did they end up going with at 33? Oh, Whitcraft, but he didn't qualify.
00:21:25
Cokeley Brothers
Whitcraft.
00:21:27
Conquest
I have Cal Hughes in here, but it was Whitcraft. um Jameson, Teague Travis, Caleb Fish, Cam Amin, Dean Hamidi, Dustin Plott, Luke Serber, and Wyatt Hendrickson.
00:21:40
Conquest
Next year could look ah could look a lot different. Could look a lot different. ah They got some good
00:21:47
Sex Robot
seven Seven guys are graduated, right? Out of there? Or was it eight?
00:21:52
Conquest
Wyatt, Serber, Plott, Hamidi, Amin, Fish, Whitcraft,
00:21:53
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, they lost craft.
00:21:58
Cokeley Brothers
With craft. Yeah. So they're, they're bringing back Spratly, Jameson and Travis.
00:22:06
Cokeley Brothers
Holy crap.
00:22:06
Conquest
just know It's going to look lot different. You got Spratly coming in, but you also got to get a tough recruit in Ronnie Ramirez. So... know know You could bump Sproutly up to 33 and wrestle Ronnie right away if you wanted to, but I doubt they do that.
00:22:21
Conquest
Here's what I have.
00:22:21
Cokeley Brothers
ah They've got some...
00:22:23
Conquest
They've got options, right? Here's what I got. I got Troy Sproutly, Rin Sakamoto, Tegan Jameson, Casey Swiderski, Teague Travis, Dee Lockett, Alex Facundo, Zack Ryder, Cody Merrill, and Connor Doucette.
00:22:41
Cokeley Brothers
Isn't Sergio Vega going to be in this group, right?
00:22:45
Conquest
Yeah, he is. I don't have him in here. I don't know why I don't have him in here.
00:22:48
Cokeley Brothers
No. yeah it And then you have him redshirting the next year.
00:22:51
Conquest
Yep, that was dumb of me.
00:22:52
Sex Robot
Apparently, tagan is also way, way big bump.
00:22:55
Cokeley Brothers
Big. Right. I heard he might be 57.
00:23:00
Sex Robot
seven double bump
00:23:03
Conquest
i mean, there's going to be a logjam.
00:23:07
Conquest
There's going to be a logjam. I mean, for starters, what are they what's Braden Thompson going to do now?
00:23:13
Cokeley Brothers
Braden Thompson is probably going to leave and he's going to go probably going to go home but to Illinois. And I think that'll be a good move for him and a good thing for Illinois. That's my expectation. But
00:23:24
Conquest
You like my Illinois prediction?
00:23:24
Cokeley Brothers
Michigan. Michigan is losing Joseph Walker, who didn't produce a lot for them. Or am I...
00:23:34
Cokeley Brothers
Is that their 74-pounder?
00:23:39
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. They're losing their 184-pounder. And...
00:23:42
Sex Robot
Jayden Bullock.
00:23:43
Cokeley Brothers
Jade Bullock. ah
00:23:47
Cokeley Brothers
And so I think they could replace Bullock with Brayden Thompson and get a good investment out of that.
00:23:54
Cokeley Brothers
And they have money.
00:23:55
Sex Robot
They haven't snagged any big transfers so far.
00:23:57
Cokeley Brothers
No. No, they haven't. They might be like heavily invested into...
00:24:02
Conquest
Tay, Tay Gohalde.
00:24:04
Cokeley Brothers
oh yeah, I forgot about Tay.
00:24:06
Conquest
Tay Gohalde. Is how you say his name? know how I say his last name.
00:24:08
Cokeley Brothers
Gadali. Yep.
00:24:12
Conquest
Ghirardelli. Chocolate.
00:24:15
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, which he apparently does not indulge in anymore because he is jacked.
00:24:16
Conquest
That's what I think of.
Coaching Strategies and Ethics
00:24:19
Sex Robot
No more chocolate.
00:24:20
Cokeley Brothers
And just... And cut...
00:24:23
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, because I feel like I remember him wrestling and moving well, but still being like a chunkier heavyweight. And then I saw him wrestling at the beginning of this year. I was like, what happened?
00:24:34
Cokeley Brothers
You just, you hit the weight room and you never stopped.
00:24:39
Cokeley Brothers
But yeah, Oklahoma state, Oklahoma state.
00:24:39
Sex Robot
Never looked back.
00:24:42
Cokeley Brothers
They're going to have Zach Ryder. They're going to have Troy Spratley, but Darian lock is probably going to be ready to go right away. Alec Facundo at 74.
00:24:48
Sex Robot
Freaking start that game.
00:24:50
Cokeley Brothers
I wouldn't be surprised if we see D lock it at 74 and for Kundo at 65. I feel like those could be interchangeable.
00:24:58
Cokeley Brothers
What do we think?
00:24:58
Conquest
D-Lockett at 74 and Fakendo at 65.
00:24:59
Sex Robot
I think D is a 65.
00:25:02
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I don't know.
00:25:03
Cokeley Brothers
I D could get bigger, but if he doesn't get bigger than obviously 65 is better fit.
00:25:07
Conquest
i think I think he will get bigger. I just don't think he'll โ I think he'll be a 65-pounder probably right away.
00:25:14
Sex Robot
think if he's going to wrestle right away, it should probably be 65.
00:25:18
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Yeah.
00:25:21
Conquest
They could play around with a red shirt. See, now here's what they could do though. They could easily red shirt D. Let's say D can't make 65 as a struggle for him, but he's not yet mature enough for 74.
00:25:31
Conquest
They could easily red shirt D and Braden Thompson could be like, F it. I'm going back down.
00:25:39
Cokeley Brothers
He was at 74.
00:25:41
Conquest
Yeah, it's freshman year.
00:25:44
Sex Robot
So I got a question. You're not going to double down this year on your, on Tyler Kasach.
00:25:54
Conquest
Oh, double down on him transferring? I don't know. Maybe. I might. I've been thinking about it. But I just don't see what โ I mean, they're to bring him in now and fill him in there at 57 for Teague Travis or Tegan Jameson. I guess you guys are saying he could possibly be 57. Put him out on there.
00:26:16
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:26:18
Cokeley Brothers
Wait, you think KSAC transfers?
00:26:18
Sex Robot
He's not leaving.
00:26:19
Cokeley Brothers
Is that what you said?
00:26:21
Sex Robot
That's what we remember last year.
00:26:21
Conquest
I thought he was going to. i thought Remember, I thought going redshirt and then transfer.
00:26:26
Cokeley Brothers
I thought that was Haynes.
00:26:27
Sex Robot
Both of them, I think.
00:26:29
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, I don't see KSAC or Haynes leaving.
00:26:30
Conquest
Haynes, it's too late. Haynes, it's too late now.
00:26:35
Conquest
Now there's he's only got one year left. But Kasak, you still got two.
00:26:39
Cokeley Brothers
Right. I think...
00:26:40
Conquest
now that Are the chances lower now that he only has two? Yeah.
00:26:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, ah he just he seems more of like a Penn State guy.
00:26:48
Cokeley Brothers
But so did Zack Ryder, so i don I don't know.
00:26:51
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:26:55
Cokeley Brothers
I guess in in some in some people's minds...
00:26:59
Sex Robot
They're certainly building a little pipeline from State College to Stillwater.
00:27:03
Cokeley Brothers
A backdoor from the Nittany Lions.
00:27:08
Sex Robot
Nice little pipeline.
00:27:11
Conquest
Tegan Jameson really is going be a 57 man. So god they're just going to be.
00:27:14
Sex Robot
Whoa, whoa, whoa. We don't know. Nobody knows.
00:27:15
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, well, that was like not... Don't be certain of that, but he is big for 41.
00:27:20
Conquest
So what, we're thinking Vega goes maybe 41, Swiderski 49, Teague Travis or Tegan Jameson 57.
00:27:28
Cokeley Brothers
keep the Keep the shirt on, Vega. He can't.
00:27:32
Conquest
Who's going to be 41 then?
00:27:32
Cokeley Brothers
We need to give it time.
00:27:35
Cokeley Brothers
Swiderski.
00:27:36
Conquest
You're bringing Swiderski back down. Let me tell you something. seen this man in person. He's never making 41 again. That's why he blew his knee out this year.
00:27:42
Cokeley Brothers
Skidoo-skiy.
00:27:45
Cokeley Brothers
Because he was Nagowski.
00:27:46
Conquest
He said, Dresser's trying to get me back down to 41. Nope. nope
00:27:50
Cokeley Brothers
Put in Peyton Sadowski.
00:27:52
Sex Robot
Peyton Zdowski.
00:27:52
Conquest
it I miss that kid. shadow out Shout out P Money.
00:27:58
Sex Robot
Hey, do we think Joey Blaze transfers? Is he on transfer watch? Portal watch?
00:28:02
Cokeley Brothers
i don't think so. I think i think the freaking nerds up in West Lafayette have him locked down. They should be paying him pretty well.
00:28:12
Sex Robot
What makes you say that?
00:28:14
Cokeley Brothers
He's just made the NCAA finals.
00:28:17
Sex Robot
That's my point exactly though.
00:28:18
Conquest
and Yeah, but it's Purdue. You think Purdue's paying them pretty well kind of money?
00:28:21
Cokeley Brothers
Well, they kept Matt Ramos around after he pinned Spencer Lee.
00:28:25
Sex Robot
Yeah. NIL I feel like it it's even worse now.
00:28:30
Conquest
Some people want it.
00:28:30
Cokeley Brothers
So let me ask you this question.
00:28:31
Conquest
Some people don't.
00:28:32
Cokeley Brothers
How would you feel if you saw Joey Blaze transfer to Penn State?
00:28:37
Sex Robot
I'd be annoyed, incredibly annoyed.
00:28:39
Cokeley Brothers
But don't you, wouldn't you say, damn, Cale Sanderson, you just brought in the guy that beat Tyler Kasach essentially for a national title.
00:28:47
Sex Robot
I mean, it won't change the it won't change the way I view Kale. It's not โ because I โ I mean, i think he's business guy.
00:28:54
Cokeley Brothers
So interesting.
00:28:56
Conquest
you really think Kale is a bad guy in this whole situation? But what is he doing that's bad, Sam?
00:29:04
Sex Robot
It's not that necessarily it's good or bad. It's that it's not the first time in a long time. you know it's
00:29:12
Sex Robot
He's done it before. โ so
00:29:14
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I don't know, man. um I guess I was just annoyed by it.
00:29:18
Sex Robot
No, no transfer was more egregious, upsetting than Tate Orndorff over Gaston Gary.
00:29:19
Cokeley Brothers
It's just not how I would.
00:29:27
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, I don't.
00:29:27
Sex Robot
That was the worst.
00:29:28
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, i've I told you like I've kind of gotten over that as far as how I view Ohio State because of it. But man, that like made my blood boil when I saw
Challenges in Recruiting Heavyweights
00:29:38
Cokeley Brothers
it. I said, I cannot believe you are doing that to your program.
00:29:38
Sex Robot
That's obviously
00:29:41
Sex Robot
Obviously, you know, that Tom Ryan is like said, all right, well, I guess I'm not going to do any more transfers because the backlash must have been terrible because they haven't gotten any.
00:29:50
Conquest
Except he needs to be hitting this portal.
00:29:59
Cokeley Brothers
Ohio State.
00:30:01
Conquest
He needs an 84 ponder. Honestly, if Braden Thompson does get into the portal, he needs to be hammering Braden Thompson with money.
00:30:08
Sex Robot
Oh, they just got Chittum, right?
00:30:10
Conquest
Cash. Cash. Cash. Yeah.
00:30:12
Cokeley Brothers
Most likely.
00:30:13
Cokeley Brothers
i don't think he's officially announced it.
00:30:13
Conquest
yeah Chittim's unofficial. Oh, speaking of official, I get a move.
00:30:17
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:19
Conquest
Dean Peterson. I had Dean Peterson on here for Iowa. I had him in purple because he's in the portal. No longer.
00:30:26
Sex Robot
He's going to Iowa?
00:30:26
Cokeley Brothers
Purple for portal.
00:30:29
Conquest
No longer. I also had him as a maybe for Nebraska, but he's not going to Nebraska, so I'm taking you out of here.
00:30:30
Sex Robot
Where's he going?
00:30:36
Sex Robot
Where is he going?
00:30:41
Sex Robot
Was that announced today?
00:30:44
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yes, officially today.
00:30:44
Conquest
Shortly before this.
00:30:47
Cokeley Brothers
Keegan O'Toole had ACL surgery.
00:30:47
Conquest
Oh, you know who?
00:30:49
Conquest
You know who Nebraska needs to go get that's in the portal right now?
00:30:52
Cokeley Brothers
Lachlan McNeil.
00:30:54
Conquest
No, because i think I think Brock Hardy's coming up and they're going to wrestle Jack Hockaday at 41.
00:31:01
Conquest
I like Hockaday. I think he's ready.
00:31:03
Cokeley Brothers
You'd Hockaday, wouldn't you? Nerd!
00:31:06
Cokeley Brothers
Who do they need from the portal?
00:31:09
Cokeley Brothers
Hunter Kaka! Yeah!
00:31:13
Cokeley Brothers
I knew it!
00:31:14
Sex Robot
you get so excited about that?
00:31:15
Conquest
Dude. perfect He'd be perfect.
00:31:16
Cokeley Brothers
Because I guessed it, right?
00:31:17
Conquest
He'd be perfect for him. A one-year guy, give Cade Ziola another year to get full-sized heavyweight, wrestle Katka for one year.
00:31:20
Cokeley Brothers
And he would be.
00:31:27
Conquest
He's an all-American caliber dude. like Perfect for you.
00:31:31
Sex Robot
Nebraska needs โ they should always have โ I feel like every team should always have a good heavyweight in their lineup. Having a bad heavyweight in your lineup is just deflating.
00:31:42
Cokeley Brothers
But Reese, when all the heavyweights are good, none of them are.
00:31:46
Sex Robot
That's fine. They can all beat up on each other. At least have โ Harley Andrews was not giving you any hope in those duels.
00:31:55
Cokeley Brothers
Right. do You know who's been struggling for a couple years with heavyweight? Northwestern.
00:32:02
Sex Robot
They're struggling all around.
00:32:02
Cokeley Brothers
My goodness.
00:32:03
Sex Robot
They're big struggle boss.
00:32:03
Cokeley Brothers
They have... Well, yeah. But man, I think it's...
00:32:06
Conquest
Trevor Trumbly. Big time Trumbly over here. Trumbly Bumbly, baby.
00:32:08
Sex Robot
Trevor Tumblake.
00:32:09
Sex Robot
Who saw that coming?
00:32:11
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, Max Mayfield in the portal.
00:32:11
Conquest
Not me. Oh, yeah.
00:32:13
Sex Robot
Max Mayfield is still wrestling?
00:32:15
Conquest
Where are you going, Max? Stay in Chicago, brother.
00:32:17
Cokeley Brothers
Nebraska?
00:32:20
Cokeley Brothers
<unk>s he'll be This will be his senior year.
00:32:22
Conquest
Mayfield's a 65-pounder. They don't need a 65-pounder.
00:32:25
Cokeley Brothers
I'm pretty sure Minto's going up.
00:32:28
Conquest
No, he's not. He's not...
00:32:30
Cokeley Brothers
I heard he was i heard he was huge at
00:32:33
Conquest
yeah He wrestled.
00:32:33
Conquest
so Yes, he is. He wrestled 74 is rich a year, but he'll go 65 for one more year and then he'll come up after Pinto graduates.
00:32:41
Sex Robot
is all right back or is he graduated?
00:32:44
Conquest
And you know who else?
00:32:44
Cokeley Brothers
Allreda's back.
00:32:45
Conquest
And you know who else they got in there behind mint buying Chris Fermento?
00:32:51
Conquest
That LJ Arugio kid. That kid's good.
00:32:52
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, Roush. Yeah, yeah. He's going real good.
00:32:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. He took fifth at Zack Ryder's bracket at Worlds.
00:32:57
Conquest
But Now, if you are correct about, ah let's say Hardy doesn't come up to 49, let's say he stays at 41, then yes, Lachlan McNeil is definitely a major target for him.
00:33:10
Cokeley Brothers
For sure. For sure.
00:33:10
Conquest
But also, i think I think Ohio State is on McNeil pretty hard, too.
00:33:11
Sex Robot
They're going to
00:33:16
Cokeley Brothers
That makes sense because they were replacing D'Amelio. Yeah.
00:33:22
Cokeley Brothers
But also Jesse Mendez could come up.
00:33:23
Sex Robot
Give me some good, good lineups next season.
00:33:26
Cokeley Brothers
that There's going to be some some well put together lineups. And now, so I got told the fact in relation to the transfer portal and if it's kind of consolidating the talent into um ah smaller set of teams, but this was the most schools with AAs since 2018, think.
00:33:44
Conquest
since the yeah since the portal became a thing.
00:33:47
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So that's a sign.
00:33:49
Sex Robot
You're blaming โ you're giving credit to the portal for that? Uh-oh.
00:33:52
Cokeley Brothers
Well, that's a sign that the portal isn't necessarily noticeably consolidating teams quality. 2018
00:33:58
Sex Robot
You said since the portal, Ryan? what you said?
00:34:01
Cokeley Brothers
was roughly the same.
00:34:04
Conquest
The first year they had the portal, there was a huge influx of people.
00:34:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I'm not saying that, uh, there, that the portal is creating that, but it's all I'm saying that it's not destroying distribution.
00:34:17
Conquest
Also, how do you guys feel about Lawrence Floridson at 25?
00:34:23
Cokeley Brothers
Kale, Kale Erdson.
00:34:24
Conquest
you think he's a viable option at 25, or should they be looking in the portal for someone maybe a little bit better? OK.
00:34:29
Cokeley Brothers
I, I, I think you, I think you want to roll with kale.
00:34:34
Cokeley Brothers
Even if it's a wrestle off, if he has the talent to beat his, his teammate, Caleb Smith, I think he can contend and and develop as a 25 pounder and be a guy who finishes blood around this year.
00:34:49
Cokeley Brothers
And then obviously, if you can if you can make it to the blood round, you can place 125.
00:34:52
Conquest
I have I have for Nebraska I have uh Lauridsen Vandy Hockaday Hardy Taylor Minto Pinto Allred McDaniel and then don't I put Kaka in there at heavyweight I don't know what they're gonna end up doing could be Harley Andrews again could be Cade Ziola who knows
00:35:13
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. i mean, they they'll for sure have somebody good because I think if, if they don't get a heavyweight in the portal for one year, then they're going to roll a Zeola and and he won't be stellar off the bat, but he'll, he'll be, he'll do well, or at least he'll develop quickly.
00:35:26
Conquest
ah He'll struggle with size. He'll struggle with size.
00:35:30
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. And you know, I think Nebraska will be able to put some size on him and hopefully he's already you working on it, but. Yeah, once he
Nebraska's Potential Lineup
00:35:39
Cokeley Brothers
gets that size and that experience, he'll be ah he'll be a great option for them. He'll be ah a staple.
00:35:44
Conquest
But if they get, if they get Kafka, man, they're looking at another team. I mean, they're looking at a team that's going to maybe pull out another seven to nine all Americans.
00:35:53
Cokeley Brothers
i was yeah I was surprised by how um how many points that they were bringing back after this NCAAs. I kind of thought, oh yeah, they hit second and now they're going to drop back down to that seventh place range.
00:36:04
Cokeley Brothers
They've always been top 10.
00:36:07
Sex Robot
Seven seems low. Is that what they got last year?
00:36:11
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. I'll look it up. 2024.
00:36:13
Conquest
I thought they were like sixth, maybe.
00:36:17
Conquest
Right behind Iowa.
00:36:19
Cokeley Brothers
Ninth. They took
00:36:23
Sex Robot
They had a bad tournament.
00:36:25
Sex Robot
They took ninth.
00:36:26
Cokeley Brothers
it took ninth place So.
00:36:31
Conquest
Yeah, Ridge made the semis and then didn't score a single team point after that.
00:36:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, that is correct. Took the slide. So yeah, I mean, Lawrence and Van Hockaday, that's your most unstable part of the lineup. And then you hit your staples with Hardy and Taylor and Minto.
00:36:50
Cokeley Brothers
Pinto, we'll see. Maybe he finds a rhythm.
00:36:52
Conquest
yeah but you've and
00:36:52
Cokeley Brothers
It's kind of the same with Allred.
00:36:54
Conquest
If they get if they get a Lachlan McNeil, that obviously just makes him that much stronger.
00:37:02
Cokeley Brothers
Right, if Hardy wants to stay at 41, which I think he can.
00:37:05
Conquest
but Yeah. He could do either or. I'd like to see Hardy at 49. Who's returning at 49 next year?
00:37:11
Sex Robot
Yeah. It can only make him stronger.
00:37:13
Cokeley Brothers
Van Ness, Henson,
00:37:18
Cokeley Brothers
Swiderski, Bombar, maybe Beechu.
00:37:22
Sex Robot
Possibly more people?
00:37:22
Conquest
Ovan Bar's coming up.
00:37:25
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, i dude, I've been, not Bombar, Webster. I've been mixing up 41 and 49 this whole postseason.
00:37:33
Sex Robot
He ain't going 49.
00:37:34
Cokeley Brothers
I'm sure he'll be back. You think he's going up?
00:37:35
Conquest
web so Webster might be going up. He's pretty big, dude.
00:37:38
Cokeley Brothers
i do i I saw him and I'm like, man, you're a an oddly shaped 49 pounder.
00:37:41
Conquest
I think that was one.
00:37:44
Conquest
I think that's why he struggled in the blood round.
00:37:48
Cokeley Brothers
His freaking arms are so long, dude.
00:37:51
Sex Robot
And he was also very, very, very sad after his quarterfinals match.
00:37:57
Conquest
You got to get over it.
00:37:57
Cokeley Brothers
Freaking.
00:37:57
Conquest
You get your ass whooped that bad, you might as well get over it pretty quickly, right?
00:38:01
Sex Robot
I do. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, well, well, you know, obviously i can't really relate.
00:38:05
Cokeley Brothers
This sucks.
00:38:06
Conquest
I mean, he's like, oh, I just lost this guy 1-0 and then I get my ass kicked like that. Like, yes, I understand you got to be upset, but also, fuck, turn around.
00:38:14
Cokeley Brothers
Rich was on one that tournament.
00:38:16
Conquest
You're wrestling Drexler. Turn it around, dude.
00:38:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:21
Sex Robot
Turn it around.
00:38:22
Conquest
Get your head out of your ass. Score me some team points, please.
00:38:23
Sex Robot
Turn the beat around.
00:38:26
Cokeley Brothers
Get your shit together.
00:38:27
Sex Robot
Get Ryan points.
00:38:31
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, Kyrene.
00:38:35
Sex Robot
Kyrene? I've never heard of him.
00:38:41
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan, let's talk about Iowa.
00:38:41
Conquest
I heard. I heard Dragon Arrini's going to Missouri. It's
00:38:46
Sex Robot
He's not ah as good.
00:38:46
Cokeley Brothers
Going back home.
00:38:48
Sex Robot
Well, I don't know.
00:38:52
Cokeley Brothers
His results haven't been the same.
00:38:52
Conquest
right, should we turn? so we're turning our.
00:38:53
Sex Robot
He doesn't have the Kyrene allure.
00:39:02
Sex Robot
That's right. He lacks the swag.
00:39:04
Cokeley Brothers
What's up, Ryan?
00:39:09
Sex Robot
are you looking at?
00:39:09
Conquest
Sorry. No, this Siri just popped on and started playing music.
00:39:16
Conquest
i don't know. She got โ yeah, I don't know what it was. Anyway, so we're moving on to Iowa.
00:39:19
Cokeley Brothers
Whoa, whoa. Yeah, hit it.
00:39:21
Conquest
You guys want to about Iowa?
00:39:21
Cokeley Brothers
197. Right. The answer at 197 is obvious. It's obvious.
00:39:25
Conquest
I don't really know what โ I just have one hole in Iowa's lineup I haven't been able to fill yet.
00:39:31
Cokeley Brothers
one ninety seven
00:39:32
Sex Robot
They're going to get a trophy this year too?
00:39:32
Conquest
One, nine, seven.
00:39:34
Sex Robot
They're going to pull one out?
00:39:35
Cokeley Brothers
ryan the the answer the answer at one ninety seven is obvious it obvious
00:39:43
Conquest
He's going to North Carolina, isn't he?
00:39:45
Cokeley Brothers
Take no. Oh, it may be. But but before he gets there, he's got to go to school number three of four. He's got to be the first four time All-American for four schools.
00:39:57
Cokeley Brothers
Call him AJ four by four. AJ Ferrari's wrestling for the Hawkeyes next year with his brother. He's going to win a national title with it with his brother.
00:40:05
Cokeley Brothers
And then he's going to move to a different school and his brother's going to bump up. It's going the first brother to brother match up matchup match off face off at NCAA finals.
00:40:12
Conquest
Jesus Christ. What are you doing? You're turning my sport into a... You're making a mockery of my sport.
00:40:17
Cokeley Brothers
No, the Ferraris are. And you know what? The people are going to tune in.
00:40:20
Conquest
yeah You're giving the energy out. You're putting the energy out there..........
00:40:27
Sex Robot
He ain't going to Iowa.
00:40:27
Cokeley Brothers
i Dude, but that would be crazy. Because we just talked about, we just had Luke and Max out wrestle each other for like the first time that brothers had wrestled each other NCAAs.
00:40:32
Sex Robot
Yeah, it would be. i would prefer he go to Iowa.
00:40:38
Cokeley Brothers
If it happened in the NCAA finals...
00:40:43
Sex Robot
I don't want to see that.
00:40:43
Cokeley Brothers
i I would want a generational crash out if Angelo beat AJ.
00:40:49
Sex Robot
That would never happen.
00:40:50
Conquest
Oh, here's one for you. I just saw it. Zach Redding to NC State.
00:40:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Yep. So they got, they got Terakina. They got Reading. They supposedly have Ferrari, but.
00:41:01
Conquest
Eric Keene is going to North Carolina. Redding is going to NC State.
00:41:04
Cokeley Brothers
Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah yeah
00:41:07
Cokeley Brothers
That's right. Yep. Yep.
00:41:09
Sex Robot
He don't know. He don't know no better.
00:41:13
Cokeley Brothers
No, so that mayte but that does make NC State's starting five tough.
00:41:21
Sex Robot
Wait, wait, wait.
00:41:21
Cokeley Brothers
They're going to go Vince.
00:41:22
Sex Robot
Biscons, no go. He out. Right? Yeah.
00:41:27
Cokeley Brothers
Probably.
00:41:27
Conquest
Biscounts is 49 now, isn't he?
00:41:27
Cokeley Brothers
and But then, no, Arrington and Jack.
00:41:30
Sex Robot
Oh, Arrington will go up.
00:41:32
Conquest
Arrington's at 57. That's why he redshirted.
00:41:34
Cokeley Brothers
Jack 49. Biscons...
00:41:36
Sex Robot
Oh, Jack's going 40. Well, Biscons was at 41, right?
00:41:39
Conquest
No, Biscounts is 49.
00:41:40
Conquest
Biscounts can come down.
00:41:42
Sex Robot
Biscons is back.
00:41:43
Cokeley Brothers
Biscuits or Redding at 41.
00:41:44
Conquest
He can come down.
00:41:45
Sex Robot
Oh, that's right. Redding.
00:41:47
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe ah that's ah that's a bit of a cut.
00:41:50
Cokeley Brothers
That's a real cut. I don't know if that's just going to happen for him.
00:41:53
Sex Robot
didn't look that big against Fippen.
00:41:54
Conquest
I got Vince, Reading,
00:41:56
Cokeley Brothers
He's different now, I promise.
00:42:05
Conquest
Who are you saying?
00:42:07
Sex Robot
I said, he Diffy.
00:42:08
Conquest
Who's Diffie? Stop. Vince Redding. Biscons. Oh oh my goodness.
00:42:20
Conquest
I'm picturing him. Jack Ryan. Uh,
00:42:23
Cokeley Brothers
Jack Ryan, Jack Reacher.
00:42:26
Cokeley Brothers
Jesus Christ, it's Jason Bourne.
00:42:27
Conquest
Ryan Jack. ryan Jack.
00:42:30
Conquest
Aaron 10 at 57. That's what I got for the starting five.
00:42:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, now back back half, maybe not quite the same, but still tough.
00:42:41
Conquest
Fish or no, what's his name? Fishman? Fishman?
00:42:45
Cokeley Brothers
Fish back.
00:42:48
Cokeley Brothers
But what about 65?
00:42:53
Cokeley Brothers
Nobody at 65.
00:42:54
Conquest
Maddie Singleton at 74.
00:42:55
Cokeley Brothers
They got a big ol' Yep.
00:42:56
Sex Robot
They haven't had a good 65 ever.
00:42:59
Cokeley Brothers
Bullards were their best, I think.
00:43:03
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. ah
00:43:04
Conquest
you guys want to know what I got for this Iowa lineup or what?
00:43:09
Cokeley Brothers
and But they have Trumbull as well. Go on. Go ahead.
00:43:12
Conquest
Here I go. Dean Peterson, Drake Ayala, Nasir Bailey, Jordan Williams, Miguel Estrada, Michael Caliendo,
00:43:23
Conquest
Patrick Kennedy, Angelo Ferrari, I guess Harvey
Cornell's Lineup Exploration
00:43:27
Conquest
Luddington, and then Ben Keeter.
00:43:30
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. So in the, there I mean, the starting, the the starting four at the very least are pretty well figured out as long as Nasir Bailey wants to go 41 Peterson, Ayala, Bailey, Williams, Estrada is, is pretty gnarly.
00:43:41
Conquest
Gabe Arnold could go 97, I guess.
00:43:46
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Now, people were talking... Everybody wanted to just put the puzzle pieces together in a way where Gabe Arnold gets in the lineup. I don't think it's going to happen, and I think that's going to be okay.
00:43:55
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think you want to move Caliendo and Kennedy, and you need to keep Ferrari right where he's at. So the only option that Gabe Arnold has is to go up to 97, and he's not big enough.
00:44:04
Conquest
What about the rumors that Kennedy is going to Minnesota?
00:44:10
Conquest
That's not happening.
00:44:12
Sex Robot
He's not going 57? No.
00:44:15
Sex Robot
no Because Gabe Arnold.
00:44:15
Cokeley Brothers
Patrick Kennedy? He just took fourth at 174.
00:44:18
Cokeley Brothers
He'll be the second best 174 entering next year. Stay there.
00:44:23
Conquest
Yeah, heard he might be going i heard he might be going to Minnesota.
00:44:23
Cokeley Brothers
Why not?
00:44:27
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think so. i think I think Patrick Kennedy loves Iowa and he loves the culture and he's staying there.
00:44:32
Conquest
I heard he's going I heard he's going home. he's going home I also heard Rocco Wells say, I'm a Buckeye.
00:44:32
Cokeley Brothers
As a matter of fact, I've heard him say that before.
00:44:35
Sex Robot
He's going home.
00:44:40
Conquest
Actually, i saw him type it. I didn't see him type it.
00:44:42
Cokeley Brothers
Fuck I for life.
00:44:42
Conquest
and I saw him post it. Buckeye for life. Yeah, that's what he said.
00:44:45
Cokeley Brothers
um I'm staying home.
00:44:46
Sex Robot
He's still a Buckeye at heart.
00:44:46
Cokeley Brothers
Buckeye for life. Let's see if he's got that tweet still out there.
00:44:51
Conquest
Is he maybe a double agent for Tom Ryan?
00:44:54
Cokeley Brothers
I would love that.
00:44:55
Conquest
Is he going to sabotage?
00:44:57
Sex Robot
What's his plan? yeah
00:45:01
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, they got rid of the tweet. He got rid of the tweet.
00:45:05
Sex Robot
That's lame. Leave it up.
00:45:07
Conquest
Of course he got rid of it.
00:45:11
Cokeley Brothers
Rocco, what are you doing? Rocco. and
00:45:15
Conquest
Sirachi deleted his tweet.
00:45:18
Sex Robot
Yeah, well, is that surprising?
00:45:18
Cokeley Brothers
Starachi, what you doing?
00:45:22
Cokeley Brothers
But that's why it was surprising because you had like, obviously these guys who are vouching for somebody that they really believe in. And um maybe that just happens at Penn State is if you're in that room and you're doing the right stuff, people believe in you.
00:45:37
Sex Robot
Just one guy. I mean, Sriracha was the only guy.
00:45:41
Cokeley Brothers
yeah, but if he's going to voice his opinion, um I'm sure it's, I'm sure it's, you know,
00:45:41
Sex Robot
One loudmouth guy.
00:45:47
Sex Robot
sure it's other people probably do, yeah.
00:45:49
Cokeley Brothers
My Mirasolas are probably cool with them. Barr. Mezenbrink and Haynes.
00:45:53
Sex Robot
They just don't see the big picture.
00:45:57
Cokeley Brothers
I guess I just don't see freaking titles forever and ever. Just titles. NCAA title after NCAA title.
00:46:05
Cokeley Brothers
Just keep cranking. Just keep cranking the title wheel. Okay? We're just going to Penn State team champions for a million years.
00:46:13
Cokeley Brothers
A hundred more seasons of Penn State.
00:46:16
Cokeley Brothers
That's all we're going to get.
00:46:16
Conquest
100 years, Penn State.
00:46:20
Cokeley Brothers
Just you and me, Morty.
00:46:22
Cokeley Brothers
is so But it's going to stop eventually. Eventually we're going to get through it. it's just We just got to take our time, I guess. and And fight the good fight.
00:46:32
Conquest
On New Jersey, they're trying to strip Knox of his fourth title.
00:46:36
Cokeley Brothers
That's so... Just... So annoying.
00:46:40
Cokeley Brothers
The people. The man.
00:46:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:50
Cokeley Brothers
No, so with the Iowa lineup, I think, yeah, you can't put Cali and or Kennedy down to 57 because they're great where they are. Angelo Ferrari is obviously going to be a title contender at 184.
00:47:01
Cokeley Brothers
Gabe Arnold's out of luck. Unless he wants to bulk up, he's out of luck.
00:47:04
Conquest
ninety seven yeahbe arnold ninety seven
00:47:07
Sex Robot
Gabe Arnold 97.
00:47:07
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, 100 years, Gabe Arnold.
00:47:10
Sex Robot
Here's what you need to do.
00:47:10
Cokeley Brothers
Forever and ever. Ben Keeter is going to...
00:47:12
Sex Robot
You break his legs and you extend them. Make him taller.
00:47:18
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, I thought you were like warming him up for a match. Yeah. Here's what you're going when you go out there, Gabe. You're going to break his legs and you're to top of him.
00:47:24
Sex Robot
You can do that too. That sounds a ah like less work.
00:47:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So Ben Keeter also for this lineup, Ben Keeter is getting hip surgery. He's not going to be playing football in 2025. I don't think, I mean, I guess that's better than him getting concussed and like being unable to do sports, but hip surgery at his age is tough.
00:47:49
Cokeley Brothers
That's a tough, yeah. I mean, it's, it's not like he's,
00:47:52
Sex Robot
You think he's getting a plastic hip?
00:47:53
Conquest
science Science has advanced these days. Sammy, it's not even that big of a deal anymore.
00:47:58
Sex Robot
Not even that big of a deal.
00:47:59
Cokeley Brothers
he's out for four to five months.
00:48:01
Sex Robot
What do you kind of, what kind of, you think he's getting that James green, Ben Askren hip surgery?
00:48:07
Cokeley Brothers
Probably.
00:48:07
Sex Robot
That's what he's doing.
00:48:08
Conquest
hundred percent That's what I think.
00:48:10
Cokeley Brothers
yeah don't think it's different?
00:48:10
Sex Robot
He'll be better than ever.
00:48:15
Sex Robot
Better than ever.
00:48:17
Cokeley Brothers
Better than ever.
00:48:21
Conquest
years. Ben Keeter. Good hip.
00:48:23
Cokeley Brothers
Man, okay, so this last lineup that you have on here, Ryan, is Cornell, and it is so much more sparse than the rest of them.
00:48:31
Conquest
yeah You know you like i like the Cornell lineup.
00:48:35
Cokeley Brothers
I think they're going to be Yeah...
00:48:37
Conquest
It was low-key kind of easy to do.
00:48:41
Cokeley Brothers
yeah I don't know. do i mean Do you know if some of these guys are going to be doing a froggy or not?
00:48:49
Cokeley Brothers
Like Cortez?
00:48:52
Cokeley Brothers
I would bet Cortez is going to do a froggy.
00:48:55
Cokeley Brothers
I bet you they're they're betting on Ferrara for this next year.
00:48:59
Conquest
right, well, I have Cortez in there, so until I'm wrong tell i'm proven wrong, I'm keeping it.
00:49:04
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Now they do need Alessio Parenton right away, so expect that. ah Simon Ruiz, 74. think Mikey Delegata is going to be dropping to 84 next year, i want to say.
00:49:17
Conquest
Well, what are you gonna do with Lou, then?
00:49:19
Cokeley Brothers
i could be wrong. I don't know. I thought I heard that Delegata is dropping to 84, but I could be wrong.
00:49:24
Conquest
Lou Sergio. Sergio's good, dude. You got to have him in the lineup.
00:49:26
Sex Robot
and they got so many So many freaking, what do you call them?
00:49:32
Cokeley Brothers
Italians?
00:49:34
Sex Robot
What's the derogatory term?
00:49:38
Cokeley Brothers
Paisans?
00:49:41
Sex Robot
I can't think of it.
00:49:44
Sex Robot
You don't know what I'm talking about from like Jersey Shore, what they call them?
00:49:47
Cokeley Brothers
No, we're just...
00:49:47
Conquest
I'm trying to remember. it I do know what you're.
00:49:49
Sex Robot
I can't think of it.
00:49:51
Cokeley Brothers
Guido's.
00:49:51
Conquest
Guidos. That's what it is.
00:49:55
Sex Robot
Got a lot of Guidos on that Cornell team.
00:49:57
Conquest
What's going to happen, though? are So ra Rocco Delgata, is he ever going to get in there?
00:50:05
Conquest
He's better than Mikey, but when's he going to get in the lineup?
00:50:08
Cokeley Brothers
Well, he's a heavyweight for sure.
00:50:10
Conquest
He's got to go. He's got to go.
00:50:11
Cokeley Brothers
i don't i don't know if Jude is going to go right away.
00:50:17
Conquest
I mean, one of them has to and one of them is not going to. But, I mean, so someone's i mean someone's going to have to leave eventually.
00:50:25
Cokeley Brothers
Is Jude a heavyweight or is he 215?
00:50:28
Conquest
i mean, he's 215, but he's planning on going heavyweight.
00:50:32
Conquest
That's why he left Michigan because Sahagian.
00:50:33
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:50:35
Sex Robot
So, hey, Nicholas, hey, again.
00:50:35
Cokeley Brothers
Sahakian? z yeah I need refuge from Sahakian.
00:50:41
Conquest
Even though he beats the Hakey and he was like, I'm leaving now.
00:50:45
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Okay. Um...
00:50:48
Conquest
What do you think though? So we got Anthony Knox, Isaiah Cortez, Vince Cornella, Jackson Joy, Meyer Shapiro, Alessio Parenten, Simon Ruiz, Lou Sergio, Mikey Delegata, and Jude Correa.
00:51:04
Cokeley Brothers
I think that Knox, I think Knox, Cortez,
00:51:05
Conquest
Super young team.
00:51:10
Cokeley Brothers
and Jude are going to take a frog year next year. i think you're going to have Greg Diakamahalis, Tyler Ferrara.
00:51:17
Conquest
I think Knox goes k nonox definitely goes right away. you You seriously don't think Knox isn't going to go right away?
00:51:20
Cokeley Brothers
cant Can I freaking finish?
00:51:22
Conquest
Nope, we can't. Nope. Absolutely not. You don't think Knox is going right away?
00:51:28
Cokeley Brothers
No, I don't. i think I think Greg is going to get another shot.
00:51:32
Conquest
Oh, I thought he was done then.
00:51:35
Cokeley Brothers
I think he's sticking around for another year.
00:51:35
Sex Robot
Wishful thinking.
00:51:36
Cokeley Brothers
I could be wrong. I think he's sticking around for another year, but I could be wrong.
00:51:37
Conquest
and Ask your man. Get your source on the phone.
00:51:41
Cokeley Brothers
Well, I'm pretty sure we talked about it. I'm pretty sure he said, yeah, next year we'll be ready.
00:51:45
Conquest
Just pull him up, and I just want to be like, hey, I'm going to throw this lineup at you. You just give me a you know ah number out of 10. Let me know how well I did. You guys get it?
00:51:56
Cokeley Brothers
Hang on.
00:51:57
Conquest
Whatever number he gives me, that's the number that's the number of weight classes I got correct.
00:51:58
Sex Robot
Get him on the podcast.
00:52:02
Conquest
He won't tell me which ones.
00:52:05
Cokeley Brothers
What are you talking about?
00:52:07
Conquest
I'm to tell Yanni to rate this lineup out of 10, and the number that he gives me will be the number of correct starters I have So if he says 10 out of 10, that means I got says 2 out of 10.
00:52:21
Cokeley Brothers
uh, uh, uh,
00:52:22
Sex Robot
are you looking at?
00:52:23
Conquest
That means I probably only got Meyer and Simon right.
00:52:28
Cokeley Brothers
technically two, but only got to use next year. I think, okay. I was just reading our past text. I will take a photo of this lineup and see what he thinks.
00:52:37
Sex Robot
Yeah, you will.
00:52:41
Cokeley Brothers
Stop it.
00:52:41
Conquest
I hate doing the good boys stuff.
00:52:43
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I'm not doing this anymore. Actually, sorry, Ryan.
00:52:46
Conquest
No, please. I didn't do it. It was Reese.
00:52:49
Conquest
I hate, I just said I hate doing that stuff.
00:52:51
Conquest
I think it's stupid.
00:52:51
Sex Robot
What's wrong with that?
00:52:53
Conquest
I think it's dumb.
00:52:53
Cokeley Brothers
Because i not now now i want to I want to gouge your eyes out. I want to kick your teeth in.
00:52:56
Conquest
Because Reese, it's like, it's like you, it's like it when people call you buddy. and Thanks, buddy.
00:53:04
Conquest
Yeah, that's what, yeah. Thanks, good boy.
00:53:08
Sex Robot
I don't mind good boy. i am a good boy.
00:53:12
Cokeley Brothers
No, stop.
00:53:14
Conquest
Good boy. Good boy, Reese. Good boy.
00:53:28
Conquest
I wish he had a tail.
00:53:29
Conquest
You just call good boy. you just see Reese's tail start going like this.
00:53:42
Conquest
ah Yeah, i wanted to get Oki or Oki. I wanted to get Ohio State done before, but I didn't have time.
00:53:51
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I think um
00:53:55
Cokeley Brothers
think we're still going to have plenty of roster management situations get played out throughout the year next year. But I think you're also going to see... the
00:54:07
Conquest
Well, the portal closes at on May 2nd.
00:54:14
Sex Robot
That's so soon.
00:54:14
Cokeley Brothers
i think it's going to ah think it's going to significantly slow down.
00:54:20
Cokeley Brothers
after this next week. I think we're going to see basically nothing after this next week in terms of new new people.
00:54:24
Conquest
I think, I think, I think we're gonna get a lull, then we're gonna get another wave. think we'll have three waves, three waves. So I think
00:54:36
Cokeley Brothers
Wait, so we've we've just had one.
00:54:39
Cokeley Brothers
You think we're gonna have two more before May 2nd. That's three waves.
00:54:44
Conquest
Yes, three waves.
00:54:46
Cokeley Brothers
Three, three glasses.
00:54:50
Cokeley Brothers
When we say three glasses.
00:54:50
Conquest
One, two, three.
00:54:52
Sex Robot
Try glazer. Hmm.
00:54:54
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. um I'm going to say just two waves. I think we only get two waves.
00:55:08
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:55:13
Conquest
What accent is that?
00:55:18
Cokeley Brothers
Gorlami.
00:55:22
Conquest
Uh, great movie.
00:55:23
Cokeley Brothers
These are good lineups, Ryan, but I think your Cornell one's a little off.
00:55:23
Conquest
I haven't seen it in while.
00:55:27
Cokeley Brothers
And then just, dude, there's so many things that can be played with on these on these lineups.
00:55:33
Conquest
Cornell, it just really so it just really sucks because, like, they just don't play by the same rules. they play They got their own set of rules when it comes to, like, eligibility and stuff, and it's just harder to do their lineup.
00:55:39
Cokeley Brothers
No, they don't.
00:55:46
Conquest
Because they can't, and what's really shitty for them is they can't do the five five dates and then red shirt.
00:55:52
Conquest
They can't do that shit.
00:55:56
Cokeley Brothers
No, it sucks. Like they're there.
00:55:57
Cokeley Brothers
They are Cause man, there, there was kind of a knee or not a need, but a desire from them. Obviously they were happy with how Benny Baker did at one 74 last year, but there was a desire with how Foka bumped up when low had to be done, done for the year.
00:56:14
Cokeley Brothers
They're like, man, if we could get Simon Ruiz into this lineup at one 74, this would be a great team. And they took second place without him. when He was probably an all-American level guy last year. He had ah hit like a one-point, maybe even a right-out match with Rocco Welsh.
00:56:30
Cokeley Brothers
So they would have loved to get him in. But I think moving forward, Cornell's just going to have some absolute hammers of some of these weight classes.
00:56:39
Conquest
Ruiz, he was only a freshman this year though, right? Eligibility wise.
00:56:42
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, correct.
00:56:43
Cokeley Brothers
He will be around until 2028.
00:56:48
Cokeley Brothers
He's legit. he like He really impressed me.
00:56:51
Conquest
Tough Jersey boy. He's from Del Barton.
00:56:54
Cokeley Brothers
I have no idea.
00:56:55
Conquest
pretty sure he's Del Barton kid.
00:56:56
Sex Robot
Might as well make him contender. I feel like he was right there with Haynes.
00:57:01
Cokeley Brothers
I, yeah So what did he finish out for fifth or sixth?
00:57:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. He took fifth.
00:57:07
Cokeley Brothers
He lost to, he lost to Hamity and Haynes.
00:57:16
Sex Robot
No, he was a five seed.
00:57:16
Cokeley Brothers
Oh tool.
00:57:19
Sex Robot
So he lost that D boss.
00:57:19
Cokeley Brothers
Who did he?
00:57:21
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Divas. That's right.
00:57:22
Conquest
Oh, he did get beat by Divas. Yeah.
00:57:24
Cokeley Brothers
And yes, he went to Del Barton.
00:57:27
Cokeley Brothers
Good job, Ryan. You're an honorary Jerseyan.
00:57:32
Conquest
Dale Barton loves to go to Cordell.
00:57:34
Cokeley Brothers
i What do you think? There's a... there's a ah you know
00:57:40
Conquest
I have no clue. I i mean, is is it geography? I have no clue.
00:57:45
Cokeley Brothers
Isn't that where Mike went to high school?
00:57:48
Conquest
Oh, did Mike go to Del Barton?
00:57:51
Cokeley Brothers
I want to say he did, but maybe I'm wrong.
00:57:53
Conquest
No, I think you're right.
00:57:54
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yep. Del Barton. Yep.
00:57:56
Conquest
think you're right.
00:57:57
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, I am correct. Okay. Yes. then Then there's a...
00:58:01
Cokeley Brothers
You know.
00:58:02
Conquest
I mean, I've forgotten that fact.
00:58:07
Conquest
Mike seems more like a Bergen Catholic kind of guy.
00:58:07
Cokeley Brothers
I just remember him holding up the four with ah with a white and green singlet, and I know Del Barton's white and green.
00:58:14
Conquest
I just and just see Mike as more of a Bergen Catholic kind of guy.
00:58:14
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, speaking of Del Barton...
00:58:18
Cokeley Brothers
No. But speaking of Del Barton, they're the ones that beat Blair this year, right?
00:58:24
Cokeley Brothers
Did Willie's fact that for the last, I think, three years that they've dueled, the duel has come down to heavyweight.
00:58:31
Conquest
Oh, they've never beaten Blair before either.
00:58:34
Cokeley Brothers
and Until this year.
00:58:35
Conquest
Yeah. It was the first dual victory over Blair Academy
00:58:36
Cokeley Brothers
That's. Did you guys do, did you guys see the way that the fans reacted when that happened?
00:58:43
Conquest
it was nuts. It was the first time they ever beat Blair Academy.
00:58:44
Cokeley Brothers
It was crazy. Imagine having that.
High School Wrestling Memories
00:58:47
Cokeley Brothers
Imagine having that in high school.
00:58:53
Cokeley Brothers
You beat, ah we go out there and we beat Carney in a duel that we're not supposed to beat them in.
00:58:57
Cokeley Brothers
And then the the crowd just comes down onto the stage and we're getting freaking.
00:59:00
Sex Robot
that Yeah, that was that that was ah inappropriate. oh That was a good reception.
00:59:04
Conquest
Isn't that what happened to Reese? Didn't you guys lift Reese up and do like the crowd surf thing with Reese?
00:59:08
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:59:08
Sex Robot
Yeah, we i ri I got the Rudy.
00:59:08
Cokeley Brothers
I had to sit in the stands.
00:59:11
Sex Robot
They Rudy'd me.
00:59:17
Cokeley Brothers
that's just I think that's awesome.
00:59:18
Cokeley Brothers
I hope ah hope we see more of the wrestling culture start to be that enthusiastic. It's awesome.
00:59:26
Conquest
No, it was awesome.
00:59:27
Cokeley Brothers
But not everybody's like Jersey.
00:59:30
Cokeley Brothers
And I get that. But man, if i could get if I could get the people down here, because I'll tell you what, Southerners, they really like their sports. So if I can just get them passionate about a little bit of wrestling, that'll be good stuff.
Where Will Eric Gibson Wrestle?
00:59:41
Conquest
So where do we think Eric Gibson's going to go now? Cornell? Cornell?
00:59:44
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know if it matters.
00:59:45
Sex Robot
Eric Gibson, how old is he?
00:59:48
Cokeley Brothers
he's I think he's going into his junior year, maybe his freshman year.
00:59:50
Conquest
Junior year? Mm-hmm.
00:59:51
Sex Robot
he's only and his third year.
00:59:54
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, think so.
00:59:58
Cokeley Brothers
Let me look it up.
01:00:02
Cokeley Brothers
He's going his sophomore year. He was 2022, was his senior, 2023, Nittany Lion Wrestling Club, 2024, freshman. And I think Nittany Lion Wrestling Club was actually Cornell.
Gidzeev's Wrestling Style
01:00:14
Cokeley Brothers
That was the Spartan RTC.
01:00:19
Sex Robot
Why did it say Nittany Lion then?
01:00:20
Conquest
Man, uh, Gidzeev, Gidzeev is really getting the, uh, what's that kid's name from Northern Colorado that got kicked off the team after hurting all those kids?
01:00:22
Cokeley Brothers
Because...
01:00:35
Conquest
Baylor Fernandez?
01:00:35
Sex Robot
What's his name?
01:00:36
Cokeley Brothers
Baylor Fernandez.
01:00:38
Conquest
Gidzeev is really getting the Baylor Fernandez treatment on Twitter right now.
01:00:39
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
01:00:41
Cokeley Brothers
he Dude, i saw the video I saw that video of him. like months ago and I was like, holy crap, I did not realize. And everybody's like typical Azerbaijanis. So I'm going to be looking out for that now.
01:00:53
Conquest
He just does that elbow.
01:00:53
Cokeley Brothers
he He'll like go to tie up and he'll like jam his thumb in your eye.
01:00:56
Conquest
Oh, guys. And then take a shot.
01:01:01
Conquest
And he does that.
01:01:02
Conquest
He does that ah elbow thing, you know, but doesn't do it correctly.
Lineup Adjustments and Gray-shirting
01:01:07
Conquest
He does it to hurt people.
01:01:07
Sex Robot
but the under With the overhook?
01:01:09
Cokeley Brothers
The little, yeah.
01:01:11
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan, lineup adjustment here for you.
01:01:11
Sex Robot
Yeah, that's a dangerous move.
01:01:12
Conquest
but Not if you if you do it right. It's not.
01:01:15
Sex Robot
It's hard to do right, though. How do you do it?
01:01:18
Conquest
I don't know. Ask Adulayev.
01:01:18
Cokeley Brothers
Lineup adjustment. we will see We will see Knox, Cortez, Alessio, and Jude all gray-shirting next year.
01:01:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So Lou will be at
Listener Comments and Suggestions
01:01:36
Conquest
going to wrestle at 65.
01:01:40
Conquest
good Good gravy. He's going huge.
01:01:42
Cokeley Brothers
He was there this year. He was there this year, apparently.
01:01:44
Conquest
I thought he was at 74.
01:01:47
Cokeley Brothers
So i would I would expect one of Unger and Diak Mahalas at 25. ah Ferrara 33. ah Jackson Joy and... Cornella and Jackson Joy, 41-49. Yes. Shapiro, 57. Sergio at 65. Ruiz at 74. 84 Delegata.
01:02:09
Cokeley Brothers
and then I don't know what they're going to do 97 in heavyweight. Maybe Elijah Diak Mahalas is coming right in at 97.
01:02:14
Conquest
Oh, he said Correa is gray-shirting.
01:02:21
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, Correa is redshirting.
01:02:23
Conquest
So ask him about Rocco.
01:02:27
Cokeley Brothers
About Rocco.
01:02:30
Cokeley Brothers
Rocco right away.
01:02:35
Cokeley Brothers
We'll see he answers.
01:02:36
Sex Robot
um wrap this up.
01:02:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, we are.
01:02:38
Conquest
shut your Shut your mouth.
01:02:38
Cokeley Brothers
We've hit an hour.
01:02:39
Conquest
I'm having a great time.
01:02:43
Sex Robot
What about the listeners? I'm worried about the listeners.
01:02:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, do you think the listeners... Somebody commented, it was actually Saturday Night Lights um commented, boiler up.
01:02:51
Sex Robot
Oh, love that guy.
01:02:53
Cokeley Brothers
He said boiler up on the last episode. and that I don't appreciate that.
01:02:55
Sex Robot
Oh, he trolled you.
01:02:58
Cokeley Brothers
He said, Christian Carroll, you got a home in West Lafayette.
01:02:58
Sex Robot
You got trolled.
01:03:00
Cokeley Brothers
And I said, all right, you know what? I deserve that.
01:03:06
Sex Robot
He's even cooler now.
01:03:06
Cokeley Brothers
I deserve that.
01:03:11
Cokeley Brothers
That one sucked.
01:03:12
Conquest
Oh, maybe, yeah maybe
01:03:13
Cokeley Brothers
Sucked to hear.
01:03:17
Conquest
Christian Carroll goes to Iowa.
01:03:21
Cokeley Brothers
ah Maybe. 97?
01:03:23
Conquest
I'm just kidding.
01:03:23
Cokeley Brothers
and ninety seven
01:03:24
Conquest
I'm just kidding.
Debate on Gap Years
01:03:25
Sex Robot
I'm over Carol. The Carol talk.
01:03:27
Cokeley Brothers
Carol Talk.
01:03:30
Cokeley Brothers
It's Carol Talk.
01:03:36
Conquest
84 and heavyweight for Cornell. All right.
01:03:39
Cokeley Brothers
Well, Delegata, I think, drops down.
01:03:42
Cokeley Brothers
And then maybe...
01:03:43
Conquest
You said Greg's going to be at 25?
01:03:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, or or ah Unger.
01:03:49
Cokeley Brothers
Unger and Marcelo. I mean, they got options.
01:03:58
Conquest
I liked my lineup better, but whatever.
01:04:00
Cokeley Brothers
And I guess Rocco and Lige are also gap yearing.
01:04:06
Conquest
Elijah makes sense.
01:04:08
Cokeley Brothers
they're kind of... theyre
01:04:09
Conquest
Wrestle Elijah right now.
01:04:11
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, Yanni was the only one that didn't take a gap year out of them.
01:04:20
Cokeley Brothers
I see. I see what the problem is.
01:04:20
Conquest
Wrestle him 84 right now.
Closing Remarks and Humor
01:04:23
Cokeley Brothers
I see what the problem is. We can we can talk about it after.
01:04:26
Conquest
Okay. All right. That was a total...
01:04:29
Sex Robot
The viewers don't get to hear it.
01:04:31
Conquest
That was a total that's a total CP move to do.
01:04:36
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, it's it's not it's not entertaining to hear why.
01:04:37
Sex Robot
Well, Sammy is the CP of the show.
01:04:46
Sex Robot
I'm not going to be entertained by this info.
01:04:48
Cokeley Brothers
No. Yeah, so I mean, honestly, I won't even tell you. you guys don't need know. It's fine.
01:04:54
Cokeley Brothers
It's stupid, really.
01:04:57
Sex Robot
you can't You can't do that to the robot, dude. the
01:05:00
Cokeley Brothers
Do we want to...
01:05:02
Sex Robot
Can't give me blue balls.
01:05:04
Cokeley Brothers
Come into your town.
01:05:04
Sex Robot
Can't blue ball me like that.
01:05:08
Cokeley Brothers
All right. Thank you, everybody, for listening to the podcast.
01:05:11
Conquest
All the other Viltrumites are scared of me.
01:05:12
Cokeley Brothers
We're going to wrap it up because Conquest is here to...
01:05:19
Cokeley Brothers
Ask us to stand ready for his arrival. Thank you for listening.
01:05:23
Conquest
Stand ready for my arrival, worm.
01:05:24
Cokeley Brothers
Hope you had a good one. hey if you're still here, subscribe and have a good day.
01:05:28
Sex Robot
What are you doing? Subscribe.
01:05:30
Cokeley Brothers
Goodbye.
01:05:31
Sex Robot
It's one click.
01:05:31
Cokeley Brothers
Goodbye. And bye.