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Session 73 - More Transfers, Coaching Changes & US Open look
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Ryne and Sammy cover the latest chaos of the transfer portal, who is going where, who isn't leaving & and the major coaching changes. We take a look at the entries for the US Open as that is sneaking up on us. Lastly, we wrap the episode up with a look at a few more lineups.
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Introduction and Podcast Overview
00:00:00
Cokeley Brothers
Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Bar in Session podcast. My name is Sammy Coakley. I'm joined here by my brother, Ryan Coakley. Reese Coakley is MIA. He's gone today. He's watching a movie. That's okay. Got some got some topics to talk about.
00:00:16
Cokeley Brothers
You know, nothing major has really happened. Actually, you know what? we'll just We'll just talk about it. Okay, wells let's just get right into it.
Transfer Portal and Coaching Rumors
00:00:22
Cokeley Brothers
The first thing is we still have some transfer portal things going on and and even some coaching moves here at this point. So let's start right there.
00:00:30
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan, what do you think?
00:00:32
Ryne
yeah i uh i'm interested to see where some of these guys end up um you know of there's the rumor today that michigan is probably the front runner runner for laughlin mcneil um you know and i've heard different things about chittum like i i heard
00:00:47
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:00:51
Ryne
I heard maybe going back to Iowa. heard maybe going to Ohio State. I've heard a bunch of different things on Chittum. um But I've heard zero things on on All-American T.J. Stewart.
00:01:03
Ryne
Nothing.
00:01:05
Cokeley Brothers
I thought I heard something, but I can't remember what anymore. But yeah, I was that it?
00:01:10
Ryne
Maryland?
00:01:13
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe.
00:01:14
Ryne
Maybe. That's like the only thing that I can think of at this point.
00:01:15
Cokeley Brothers
don't
00:01:17
Ryne
But also, Jackson Smith has another year.
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Cokeley Brothers
know.
00:01:21
Ryne
so
00:01:22
Cokeley Brothers
I think Iowa wanted TJ Stewart for 197.
00:01:24
Ryne
which now
00:01:27
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe. I think people are looking to find him somewhere at 197. But at that could be wrong, too.
00:01:32
Ryne
he's coming up I don't know I thought he was perfect size 84 but kids grow kids change you know it's it's a
00:01:34
Cokeley Brothers
I feel like he's not built to wrestle 197. So... Right. So i didn't I didn't feel like 197 would make sense. But...
00:01:46
Cokeley Brothers
People can change.
00:01:48
Ryne
man
00:01:49
Cokeley Brothers
um Yeah, Lachlan at the... to people on Twitter who like to get things out earlier before they're confirmed, we're but we're saying Lachlan to Michigan and Willie, Willie shut it down and said, Michigan's in play, but there has not been a decision made yet.
00:02:06
Cokeley Brothers
And Chittum right out the gate. Mineo was, Mineo said, um, that Chittum was going to Ohio state and it hasn't been officially announced at this point. And it might be one of those ones where we just don't know until he's enrolled at the school that he's enrolled at.
00:02:21
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:02:23
Ryne
I kind of want to see Lachlan and Chittum at Ohio State.
00:02:24
Cokeley Brothers
So,
00:02:29
Cokeley Brothers
I was thinking about it today. Michigan and Ohio State have been very quiet this these last couple of weeks. You would have expected something to happen. Now, Ohio State lost Rocco Welsh.
00:02:41
Cokeley Brothers
So, I mean, they might have a pool of money to pull from now that he's gone. I don't know. You want you might want to use that.
00:02:49
Ryne
Yeah, it just is kind of crazy to me that they've been Oh, yeah, so quiet, I guess. Especially Ohio State.
Roster Size and Revenue Sharing Implications
00:02:58
Ryne
Ohio State not only has been quiet in the portal, they've been quiet on the recruiting trail, too.
00:03:03
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what their incoming class looks like, but
00:03:07
Ryne
and It looks like Maddox Shaw. That's what it looks like.
00:03:10
Cokeley Brothers
really, let me take a look here.
00:03:11
Ryne
um Pretty much.
00:03:14
Cokeley Brothers
That's interesting. um
00:03:18
Cokeley Brothers
That's not a good sign for them. I would imagine that they have a pretty healthy amount of money that they can pull from, but I guess I don't really have anything in my mind that confirms that.
00:03:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that their only guy is Maddox Shaw flat out.
00:03:33
Ryne
Yeah.
00:03:34
Cokeley Brothers
Whoa. And he'll fit right in. But man.
00:03:38
Ryne
Well, I think he needs a red shirt, but...
Oklahoma State and Coaching Departures
00:03:42
Cokeley Brothers
Wait, are they going to deal?
00:03:47
Cokeley Brothers
I'm guessing they're one of the schools that's opting into revenue sharing. And so they have they have to limit their roster size, correct?
00:03:55
Ryne
Well, I think everyone has to limit their roster size.
00:03:58
Cokeley Brothers
Well, everyone that opts in.
00:03:59
Ryne
There's a... No, there's a it's it's a roster cap. like i think it's every I think the roster cap is applied no matter what.
00:04:05
Cokeley Brothers
it's If you opt into revenue sharing, the roster cap is applied.
00:04:12
Cokeley Brothers
No. I'm willing to be wrong on this, but i but what I know is, or what i what's in my head.
00:04:17
Ryne
I thought there were two so two separate deals here.
00:04:22
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think so.
00:04:25
Ryne
and didn't think Why would the revenue sharing have anything to do with roster cap?
00:04:28
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. Maybe I've crossed wires in my head, but I, I, I swear that those two things are related to each other.
00:04:33
Ryne
You might be right. I'm not saying you're wrong. I just didn't know. it I hadn't heard anything like that. 30 or 32.
00:04:38
Cokeley Brothers
I feel like that's the case. And I think the roster limit for wrestling is 30, right? Okay.
00:04:42
Ryne
thirty or thirty two something like It is an even number.
00:04:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Ohio state is probably gonna be cutting it close. They got four kids in the portal right now and they, yeah. Okay. um On Oklahoma state.
00:05:00
Cokeley Brothers
So they, they get Zach Ryder. And then Braden Thompson hops in the portal, reportedly.
00:05:07
Ryne
Reportedly.
00:05:07
Cokeley Brothers
Were you... You okay? um And then he decides, no, I'm going to stay. And so...
00:05:14
Ryne
The word is that BT, Mr. Thompson, maybe.
00:05:23
Ryne
What's the word I'm looking for? don't want to say lied, but. For lack of a better word right now, lied.
00:05:30
Cokeley Brothers
He put his feelers out there to see what his son could get.
00:05:32
Ryne
Yeah, sure.
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Cokeley Brothers
We'll put it that way.
00:05:34
Ryne
Sure. You know.
00:05:35
Cokeley Brothers
That's the, that's the rumor that we don't have confirmation of that either.
00:05:39
Ryne
And apparently he, he got a visit set up with Iowa, but Braden Thompson was like not interested. I don't know. I've heard a bunch
Penn State Lineup and Training Dynamics
00:05:46
Ryne
of different things. So, um, but yeah, all in all, Braden Thompson never really wanted to leave is, is kind of what everyone is hearing now.
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Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Well, what, what we do know. makes sense.
00:05:57
Ryne
And then, so with that, the talk of the lineup right now is, is Ryder 84, Braden Thompson,
00:05:58
Cokeley Brothers
That makes sense.
00:06:06
Ryne
and Merrill at heavyweight next year.
00:06:10
Cokeley Brothers
Really?
00:06:11
Ryne
That's the talk of the town.
00:06:14
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know if I like that.
00:06:17
Ryne
Why?
00:06:21
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know if Thompson is really a 97 pounder.
00:06:25
Ryne
Apparently he walks around 2.20, 2.15, 2.20.
00:06:30
Cokeley Brothers
um mean, yeah, and then next by next week, he'll be 250, right? right like ah I don't know. i had just He wrestled 174.
00:06:39
Cokeley Brothers
And I guess we'll see what we see.
00:06:40
Ryne
It was his true freshman year.
00:06:41
Cokeley Brothers
And then, I don't know, I was so i was so ready to see Merrill at 197. I was excited about that.
Transfer Surprises and Eligibility Speculations
00:06:49
Cokeley Brothers
ah I think he will be a problem at heavyweight, but I'm just worried. I think his problem will be be being big enough.
00:06:56
Cokeley Brothers
so But he's going to move faster than 95% his competition.
00:07:01
Ryne
I think they still have the cowboy bulk job.
00:07:06
Ryne
I think that's still a thing for them.
00:07:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah, they probably still have those powers. But... I don't know. That just feels... I don't know. I feel bad for Conor, if that's the case. so
00:07:20
Cokeley Brothers
Duke it. Doucette.
00:07:22
Ryne
I know who you're talking about. i just I was just saying, like name of the game these days, man.
00:07:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:07:26
Cokeley Brothers
That sucks. Yeah. Now... Something that that really is a loss for Oklahoma State is Gilman leaving the coaching staff and he's going to be coaching at the Nittany Lion Wrestling Club now.
00:07:44
Ryne
Yeah, back to...
00:07:44
Cokeley Brothers
And he did ah he did a ah ah very thorough interview with with Justin Bash and it was pretty clarifying on a lot of things. One, seems like the from his perspective, the athletes love him, which is a great thing to hear for somebody who's in a coaching position.
00:08:01
Cokeley Brothers
It's great to have those established relationships. And I don't think he would make those claims without know being able to easily back it up with one of his wrestlers saying that that's the case.
00:08:08
Ryne
Yeah,
00:08:12
Cokeley Brothers
But it also sounded like he was not necessarily entirely in alignment with some... of the other people in charge of things roughly.
00:08:23
Ryne
he just said staff.
00:08:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I don't know if that means the other coaches. I don't know if that means administration. i don't know if that means the, I don't know if it means the athletic trainer. I don't know who it really means. And then there's, there's rumors about people talking to his wife about things. And I don't know.
00:08:42
Cokeley Brothers
No, no, nobody's ever going to know what really went on behind those doors.
00:08:45
Ryne
I thought it was weird when he was like talking in his interview to to Bash and he was like, yeah, you know, I made sure I had Dave FaceTime me because I wanted to see his face whenever I told him what was happening. I was like, what the heck?
00:09:00
Ryne
Why would you say that?
00:09:02
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. i Well, yeah, I guess it's one of those. Like when he said, when he told Dave that, hey, I'm leaving, right?
00:09:09
Ryne
yeah i think I think that's what he was talking about, but like why did why did he make the comment of, i I wanted to see his face. I wanted to see what his face looked like. or so It was something to that effect.
00:09:20
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I don't know. i kind of I kind of would have expected the angle of, i you know, I want to ah want to say this to his face so so that I'm not hiding behind a text message, but it wasn't quite like that.
00:09:28
Ryne
Yeah, it was more, I mean, it's not what it came off of. That's probably how he meant to
National Duals Tournament and Selection Controversies
00:09:35
Ryne
meant meant it but that's just not how it came off.
00:09:37
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Interesting.
00:09:42
Cokeley Brothers
Interesting.
00:09:42
Ryne
So at least that's not how it came off to me.
00:09:42
Cokeley Brothers
Interesting.
00:09:44
Ryne
To me, it came off like, I don't want to say malicious, but a little bit like, I want to see what this guy's face looks like when I tell him I'm leaving and going back to Penn state. Like, all right.
00:09:57
Ryne
I hope that's not how I meant it, but I didn't see the people.
00:09:57
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Okay. Okay.
00:10:01
Ryne
There were people like, Oh, you know, it's, he's always having issues with coaches, you know, whenever he leaves places, maybe he's the issue. I was like, what other issues has he had?
00:10:10
Cokeley Brothers
ah i don't think I don't think he had any problem with Penn State when he left Penn State, truthfully.
00:10:12
Ryne
It,
00:10:15
Cokeley Brothers
And I think people i think people are are um kind projecting the issue that happened with Ramos at Iowa.
00:10:15
Ryne
I don't think he had.
00:10:22
Cokeley Brothers
I think they're saying the exact same thing happened to Gilman. and i don't think that's necessarily the case at all.
00:10:27
Ryne
i mean, I there was there is something there that happened to Iowa. There was there's bad blood. There was a little bit of bad blood when he left.
00:10:37
Cokeley Brothers
You think so?
00:10:37
Ryne
um i I mean, that's how it is.
00:10:39
Cokeley Brothers
And I guess people...
00:10:41
Ryne
That's how it is with, with the I mean, the rumor is that's how it is with the brands, whenever guys leave, like Ramos and Gilman, like they kind of take take it maybe a little too personally.
00:10:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So...
00:10:52
Ryne
don't know.
00:10:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. That's interesting.
00:10:56
Ryne
ELE, that's what I say.
00:11:00
Cokeley Brothers
Roughly, yeah. Yeah. E-L-M-E.
00:11:06
Ryne
i don't know.
00:11:06
Cokeley Brothers
Mostly everybody.
00:11:08
Ryne
Coop.
00:11:09
Cokeley Brothers
Mostly everybody. there are we We have to have an enemy. Otherwise, how can we align ourselves under a common banner?
00:11:15
Ryne
I like it.
00:11:17
Cokeley Brothers
um God, i had something. Oh, i what I did notice is Gilman was very...
00:11:29
Cokeley Brothers
i need ah i need to word this the right way. and his
00:11:34
Cokeley Brothers
it was very important to him that there was a religious aspect to what he was doing. Um, like he talked about, you know, the Bible and, and establishing that as a, as a relationship with his athletes and the place that I always think of the first, the first, whenever I think of that and wrestlers is Penn state.
00:11:58
Ryne
Yeah, he's he's he's a very spiritual.
00:11:58
Cokeley Brothers
Uh,
00:12:00
Ryne
I mean, he wasn't like, i don't know, maybe not as outspoken, but I think he was a pretty spiritual
US Open Insights and Predictions
00:12:05
Ryne
dude whenever he was at Iowa.
00:12:07
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe. i don't remember. ah really don't. I mean, the only the only things I remember from Iowa are the clickbaity things where he's he's talking about how scrap how and you know unsportsmanlike guys are on the mat. He's like, hey, if you want to fight, we'll go we'll go fight in a parking lot.
00:12:25
Ryne
Or the eye broken from bottom. I love that one.
00:12:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, like like those those types of... And maybe he has been religious his whole life. I really don't know. I don't know him that way. But a place where people put that as a priority is Penn State.
00:12:38
Cokeley Brothers
And so it's a fit. It just makes sense. Now, what does that do for the rooms involved? What, you know, ah Blaze and and all the other lightweights, excuse me, we're super excited about the fact that Gilman is going to be coming back into the room and they're going to be able to train with him. They're super, super excited about that.
00:13:00
Cokeley Brothers
And that's probably only going to help them.
00:13:03
Cokeley Brothers
It's going to make her great room even better. Now, what does Oklahoma state do to fill that position? lot of people are saying Seth gross. Some people are saying Jordan Oliver.
00:13:16
Ryne
Not a lightweight guy though.
00:13:17
Cokeley Brothers
yeah Not quite. No, he he's cant right with Jimmy Kennedy. So it's just, that doesn't quite fit. Now, some things to think of are David Taylor talks about whenever I bring coaches in, I want guys that are going to wrestle with the athletes.
00:13:25
Ryne
um Yeah.
00:13:33
Cokeley Brothers
so So, I mean, you can't bring in like a Barry Davis. I guess you could. Barry would probably try and wrestle him. I don't know how it go, though. So, like, you need to have somebody young, you know, still relatively active.
00:13:46
Cokeley Brothers
And so that that limits your pool down a little bit.
00:13:49
Ryne
I like Nathan Tomasello.
00:13:52
Cokeley Brothers
Tomasella is an option. ah gross as Gross is definitely an option.
00:13:58
Ryne
I don't think so.
00:13:59
Cokeley Brothers
some people somebody some Somebody talked about just slotting das or slotting a not da Dayton Ficks into that position. I don't know if he's ready to coach yet. I think he kind of still wants to dedicate himself to wrestling.
00:14:07
Ryne
Yeah. If he was, if, if Dayton was done competing and like knew he was done competing, I would say Dayton for sure. Cause I, I can see Dayton.
00:14:15
Cokeley Brothers
That's like 100% see him
00:14:17
Ryne
I can see Dayton being a good coach here in the future.
00:14:19
Cokeley Brothers
being phenomenal coach. Yeah. ah phenomenal coach
00:14:23
Ryne
Yeah. So, I don't know.
00:14:25
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:14:26
Ryne
um I don't agree with the Seth Gross sentiment.
00:14:31
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. Yeah. Well, I think the biggest thing for people is he's he's in the middle of nowhere right now. <unk>s not He's not with a team.
00:14:38
Ryne
Wait.
00:14:39
Cokeley Brothers
He's not at an RTC. Where is he? He's just somewhere in one of the Dakotas, right?
00:14:43
Ryne
I don't know. He's training and... but that See, that was the problem. That's why like the whole Wisconsin deal didn't work out for him is because... He is still focused on himself, which is fine.
00:14:56
Ryne
Like, that's what he wants to do, right?
00:14:58
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:14:59
Ryne
But, you know, like, the guys on the team didn't feel like he was making them better. And that's kind of why they moved him off of the staff.
00:15:07
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:15:09
Ryne
I don't want to say fired him because they didn't really fire him. They kind of did.
00:15:12
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Okay. No, I hear what you're saying.
00:15:18
Ryne
I don't know. I don't know if he's... good enough. If he's good enough to coach that level, you know, maybe he is, maybe he's not, maybe the, you know, the whole Wisconsin thing. I don't know.
00:15:29
Ryne
It's,
00:15:30
Cokeley Brothers
No, I absolutely, I do. I think, I think Seth gross has a, has a phenomenal understanding of the sport and, and and breaking down technique and understanding wrestling positions.
00:15:43
Cokeley Brothers
he's probably one of the best at it. Now, is he able to translate that into, you know, providing the athletes the the ability to improve in those positions? I don't know. He also has very controversial opinions, non-standard opinions in terms of wrestling positions.
00:15:55
Ryne
Yeah.
00:15:57
Cokeley Brothers
and And now does that, now is that a thing that, you know, when David, if David Taylor reads about that, is he like, I want that in my room?
00:15:58
Ryne
Yeah.
00:16:04
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe ah I don't know.
00:16:06
Ryne
Yeah. Doubt it. Some of this stuff, I was like, it's like, okay.
00:16:08
Cokeley Brothers
So,
00:16:11
Ryne
It's
00:16:11
Cokeley Brothers
i can't yeah i can't i
Ohio State and Michigan Lineup Changes
00:16:13
Cokeley Brothers
can't like I can't just outright say no, but I am like, ah, that's not for me.
00:16:15
Ryne
like, it might work. Yeah, it's exactly how I am.
00:16:19
Cokeley Brothers
No, thank you.
00:16:20
Ryne
That's definitely not for me.
00:16:21
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yep. So that is Now there are other... Lee Roper. Lee Roper's at the RTC with Oklahoma State now.
00:16:30
Ryne
Joining the RTC.
00:16:33
Cokeley Brothers
So you know that's another win for Oklahoma State. But what does Northern Iowa do to you know fill that slot
00:16:40
Ryne
That's kind of a void that they got fill there. Lee was instrumental in development as far as I could, as far as like, you know, the word on the street was.
00:16:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:16:47
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:16:51
Cokeley Brothers
huh
00:16:52
Ryne
so
00:16:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I don't know.
00:16:53
Ryne
but I think they're, I think you and I still good hands. They've got great leadership over there you and I.
00:16:57
Cokeley Brothers
so They'll probably have plenty of plenty of great candidates to select from.
00:17:02
Ryne
Yeah, in fact, i think they already got one ready to go. His name is Drew Foster.
00:17:06
Cokeley Brothers
have a name you can drop? Well, okay. That's a perfect transition.
00:17:09
Ryne
that's my In my opinion, that's who i think I think that's who they they yeah they just slide him in.
00:17:12
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Okay. Yeah.
00:17:15
Ryne
I mean, just being you know being around him and being you know seeing him at tournaments and stuff, it just kind of seems like that's that's the move they should make.
00:17:15
Cokeley Brothers
Where...
00:17:23
Cokeley Brothers
Where's Lujan?
00:17:27
Ryne
That I don't know. i don't I thought he was training still, but maybe he's not.
00:17:31
Cokeley Brothers
like I haven't seen him competing for a while.
00:17:33
Ryne
I haven't. Taylor might be coaching somewhere.
00:17:38
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. I wouldn't know where.
00:17:40
Ryne
I wouldn't either.
00:17:42
Cokeley Brothers
I would not...
00:17:45
Cokeley Brothers
So yeah, with with the transfer portal slowing down and um one that we were wrong about, because everybody, Willie Saylor in particular, was saying Spencer Moore was going to go to Presbyterian, but he he's in Illinois.
00:17:59
Cokeley Brothers
So he's going to be in the Big Ten.
00:18:00
Ryne
I would have been huge for Presbyterian.
00:18:01
Cokeley Brothers
He'll be wrestling there.
00:18:05
Ryne
would have been awesome, honestly.
00:18:05
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. ah wonder I wonder if his if Spencer Moore's family sat him down and was like, hey, you could make some money. You should probably go make some money.
00:18:15
Ryne
Well, you he his wife goes to Presbyterian.
00:18:15
Cokeley Brothers
So
00:18:18
Cokeley Brothers
I know it's like, I understood the, the, the reasoning why, and maybe his wife was like, Hey, go get us, go get us a bag real quick.
00:18:21
Ryne
Oh, okay. Okay.
00:18:25
Cokeley Brothers
Just one year, one year of distance. We'll be okay. And so he's at Illinois. AJ Ferrari is at UNC. We talked about that last episode, I think. Right.
00:18:38
Ryne
Yes. Taylor Lujan is coaching. Looks like he's coaching at Immortal.
00:18:45
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, wait. Wait, wait.
00:18:47
Ryne
He's coaching at a club.
00:18:48
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
00:18:51
Cokeley Brothers
Like a wrestling club.
00:18:52
Ryne
Yeah, it's in Iowa. It's called the Immortal Athletics Wrestling Club.
00:18:54
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:18:57
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Still
Season Reflections and Future Expectations
00:18:59
Cokeley Brothers
around. Alright.
00:19:00
Ryne
Yeah.
00:19:01
Cokeley Brothers
I had a thing.
00:19:05
Ryne
Looks like they're all UNI guys.
00:19:05
Cokeley Brothers
Ferrari. That's right. So people were talking about AJ Ferrari and his eligibility situation. Now,
00:19:14
Ryne
It's simple.
00:19:15
Cokeley Brothers
My... Go ahead.
00:19:18
Ryne
Free year.
00:19:21
Ryne
Car accident in 22 where he competed. um Probably he's not getting that year back. And then this year. So free year. So he's used two years of eligibility. He's got two more left.
00:19:32
Ryne
simple.
00:19:32
Cokeley Brothers
yeah Okay. So people think that he is going to get a medical register for 2022 to the point where WrestleStat has it listed. Now, my... understanding of the way eligibility works and and and how and when you can apply a medical redshirt.
00:19:50
Cokeley Brothers
What I was told by my athletic trainer when I was at Indiana was you, if you wrestle a certain percentage of the schedule, you are no longer eligible for a medical redshirt.
00:19:57
Ryne
Yeah.
00:20:01
Cokeley Brothers
I don't remember what what the percentage is. I can't remember if it's like
00:20:04
Ryne
More than 50.
00:20:04
Cokeley Brothers
40% or 60% or something like that. But AJ Ferrari wrestled in a lot of duels. He wrestled in, again, Stanford, Minnesota, Drexel, Oklahoma, Air Force, Wyoming, Utah Valley, Little Rock, calli Columbia, and Lehigh.
00:20:19
Cokeley Brothers
So I don't think, to the point where he wrestled from November all the way into the final week of of January.
00:20:24
Ryne
The car accident happened. The the Yeah, a car accident happened January 24th.
00:20:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, so I don't think he's going to get that year back.
00:20:35
Ryne
But who knows?
00:20:35
Cokeley Brothers
Unfortunately.
00:20:35
Ryne
they've give they've been given away out They've been given eligibility back like candy, so who knows?
00:20:39
Cokeley Brothers
So he's got two years left, maybe three. You might see three more years of AJ Ferrari.
00:20:46
Ryne
I would be surprised.
00:20:46
Cokeley Brothers
Now the question is, will you see AJ Ferrari at UNC forever or will you see him at ah different school after this year?
00:20:57
Cokeley Brothers
What do you think?
00:21:03
Ryne
I think he's gonna win an ACC title and then try to go to a Big Ten school. That's ah it.
00:21:08
Cokeley Brothers
Just win a Big Ten. So he'll have a Big 12, Pac-12, an ACC, and a Big Ten title.
00:21:10
Ryne
And when all
00:21:14
Ryne
Yeah, get them all got to collect the ball.
00:21:16
Cokeley Brothers
Nice. Uh-huh. So he's going to leave out Ivy League, EIWA, SoCon, and Mac.
00:21:23
Ryne
Be the first four time All American for four different schools for different conferences.
00:21:30
Ryne
Just got to leave his mark somehow.
00:21:31
Cokeley Brothers
he will ride He will ride that wave.
00:21:37
Ryne
Yeah.
00:21:37
Cokeley Brothers
crazy
00:21:38
Ryne
i I honestly believe that that is what's going to happen.
00:21:44
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. Rob Cole might be able to keep him. Might be able to keep him around.
00:21:46
Ryne
You you're right.
00:21:46
Cokeley Brothers
We'll see.
00:21:47
Ryne
I mean, I kind of hope he stays put, but...
00:21:54
Cokeley Brothers
So the lineups are really starting to take shape. We probably shouldn't see too much more transfer happening. um
00:22:00
Ryne
We got a few more weeks, a few more weeks until to get into the portal. Then it shuts down, closes.
00:22:07
Cokeley Brothers
Right. And then i mean we already hit like a pretty significant deadline with the whole... whatever court ruling was going on in terms of how much money you're allowed to accept or whatever within IL, there was some sort of court thing in California and a judge was ruling on it.
00:22:20
Ryne
Really? i don't know.
00:22:21
Cokeley Brothers
And the deadline was like April something it's happened in the last two weeks.
00:22:21
Ryne
I haven't been paying attention to this.
00:22:27
Cokeley Brothers
So, uh, yeah, that did happen. i don't know if it's like official official or what it's locking down or anything like that. I don't have enough information on that. So ah while we're on college wrestling still, let's let's talk about the national duels because that is going to be decided at this point pretty soon. i can't remember what the exact date is in terms of when the finalized list of teams is going to be. and So I'm going to look that up right now.
00:22:56
Cokeley Brothers
But the way it works right now is there's going to be 16 teams at the tournament. It's going to be a dual tournament. And the way they determine the 16 teams is the top 12 from the NCAA tournament, which is ah Penn State, Nebraska, Oklahoma State, Iowa, Minnesota, Ohio State, Cornell, NC State, Northern Iowa, Illinois, Virginia Tech, and Michigan.
00:23:21
Cokeley Brothers
They will all receive an invitation to go compete and participate. Now, not all of them are necessarily going to. As a matter of fact, a lot of people are pretty sure Penn State's not going to, even though I think
00:23:34
Cokeley Brothers
Two things when I think it's crazy to, to expect them to I don't know. No, I just think it's crazy for them to not attend in general. Now that's the first 12 teams and whoever else doesn't attend or whoever else from that 12 doesn't attend.
00:23:47
Cokeley Brothers
It gets slotted into this lottery where, uh, you have the remaining teams from 13th to 24th place at NCAAs, which is a list of 16 teams.
00:23:59
Cokeley Brothers
It's, uh, you know, you can, you can look it up on your own, but
00:24:03
Ryne
yeah I really thought you were about to list them.
00:24:06
Cokeley Brothers
No, no, too many. um They will be put into a lottery and the four to however many teams didn't accept, you know, from the top 12. So you have four to however many.
00:24:20
Cokeley Brothers
ah They will be brought in. And so listen to this. This is the situation. If you go to this tournament and you attend and you wrestle, if you're one of the 16 teams that you wrestle, you will be given bare minimum $20,000.
00:24:38
Cokeley Brothers
If you take eighth place, it's... 8th place $20,000. 7th is 25th. $40,000. $50,000. is $75,000. 3rd... and both earned $150,000. And 1st place wins $200,000. Ryan... seventh is twenty fifth six this forty fifth is fifty fourth is seventy five thousand third ah second and third we both earned a hundred and fifty thousand in first place wins two hundred thousand dollars ryan If Penn state goes to this dual tournament, they're going to earn $200,000.
00:25:12
Cokeley Brothers
Why is, why is that not worth it inherently?
00:25:16
Ryne
You know, I think the ah athletes are going to have to put pressure on kale. So I think
00:25:23
Cokeley Brothers
What?
00:25:24
Ryne
I think the athletes are going to have to put some pressure on kale if they want to go. That's what I think.
00:25:29
Cokeley Brothers
No, no, no, no. The ah the administration.
00:25:30
Ryne
Kale doesn't need the money.
00:25:32
Cokeley Brothers
The administration is going to like, earn us two hundred thousand dollars
00:25:36
Ryne
The admin's not going to touch him. The admin's not going to say anything to him. they Because he wins the most important title that they care only care about when they don't. the ah the ad administration Do you think the administration really cares about these kids and how much money they can make on that?
00:25:50
Cokeley Brothers
us $200,000. They're operating this like, they have to be operating this like a business. That's the only thing that... that That they can think of. That's the only model that they can that they can approach this.
00:25:59
Ryne
You don't have to.
00:25:59
Cokeley Brothers
It's the only thing for them, for the people who work in administration, for their job to justify what they do.
00:26:07
Ryne
Well, why?
00:26:07
Cokeley Brothers
They have to find a way.
00:26:07
Ryne
It's the money goes to... Who does the money go to? The money goes to who?
00:26:11
Cokeley Brothers
Well, goes to Penn State. Now, if it goes to wrestling, great. that's less That's less financial pressure from Penn State Athletics to help take care of Penn State Wrestling.
00:26:20
Ryne
I mean, like I said, think it's... a I don't think the Penn State admin is going to be putting any kind of pressure on Kale.
00:26:34
Cokeley Brothers
That's crazy to me.
00:26:35
Ryne
It's unwarranted.
00:26:38
Cokeley Brothers
It's...
00:26:40
Ryne
Why would they push the guy? Why would they push their their best coach? Probably the the number one college coach in the country regardless of sport.
00:26:44
Cokeley Brothers
I would at least
00:26:53
Ryne
why would they Why would they poke the bear? Why would you need to poke the bear in any way, shape, or form?
00:26:56
Cokeley Brothers
i would i would at least...
00:26:57
Ryne
You don't.
00:26:57
Cokeley Brothers
I would at least want to hear ah ah justified reason. And it better be damn good.
00:27:05
Cokeley Brothers
Cause really why not attend? Why not go?
00:27:08
Ryne
I mean. They don't need the money.
00:27:13
Cokeley Brothers
Well, okay. So why not go compete? Why not? What's wrong with the competition?
00:27:16
Ryne
i't It's just not a necessary competition in their eyes.
00:27:23
Ryne
I don't know, Sammy.
00:27:23
Cokeley Brothers
Then what is a necessary?
00:27:24
Ryne
I hope they, ah hope they go.
00:27:24
Cokeley Brothers
You know what? You know what?
00:27:26
Ryne
I don't know why they haven't been going, you know, like why do some years they do the journeyman and some years they don't, you know, it's just,
00:27:26
Cokeley Brothers
I,
00:27:30
Cokeley Brothers
I hope.
00:27:33
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, so so at this point, just just show up in March. Just ignore the rest of the season because it doesn't matter. Like, that's just what it makes me feel like. that's just the that's the That's the vibe that I get, and it's very frustrating to to to see the the best team in college just... I don't know.
00:27:53
Cokeley Brothers
That's frustrating to me.
00:27:54
Ryne
Cheers, mate.
00:27:57
Cokeley Brothers
Cheers. Cheers.
00:28:00
Ryne
Cheers, mate. don't know how to tell dude. They're probably not going.
00:28:05
Cokeley Brothers
Whatever. Whatever. You know what? Screw it. Because Indiana is one of those teams that placed thirteenth through 24th. So the fewer teams in the top 12 that go, better chances of Indiana going. So I like that.
00:28:17
Ryne
think Indiana's going to go.
00:28:17
Cokeley Brothers
Now,
00:28:21
Cokeley Brothers
if they get invited, they're 100% going to they're one hundred percent going to go
00:28:28
Ryne
Okay.
00:28:29
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan. right. Do you think that there are any other teams out there that are, that are not going to take the opportunity for the money flat out?
00:28:30
Ryne
I believe you.
00:28:37
Ryne
No, those smaller programs will definitely take the opportunity.
00:28:41
Cokeley Brothers
Exactly. And in terms of financial, both financial production and consumption, Indiana is one of the smallest teams in that category in the big 10. So they can, they'll benefit regardless.
00:28:52
Cokeley Brothers
Now, The controversy, where the real controversy starts, is the way that the procedure that was put in place for picking these teams. Because you have a team like Oklahoma State...
00:29:07
Cokeley Brothers
who now don't take what their current, what their incoming lineup is looking like, because that has no effect of what, how they did at NCAAs, but the points that they scored at NCAAs, what they have coming up this next season from that is minimal. It's like 20 points.
00:29:26
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:29:27
Cokeley Brothers
And so, yes, but they're asking, they're asking for an improvement upon what they have right now.
00:29:27
Ryne
There's no perfect science though for picky.
00:29:35
Ryne
Who is they?
00:29:35
Cokeley Brothers
And I think, Hey,
00:29:36
Ryne
Who's asking for that?
00:29:38
Cokeley Brothers
The people, the people, schools like Lehigh, who's going to have a phenomenal team this upcoming year. Missouri, who's going to have a phenomenal team this upcoming year. Iowa State.
00:29:49
Cokeley Brothers
I think Iowa State's not in that selection. an Iowa State's team is going to be good.
00:29:55
Cokeley Brothers
If they can get their lightweights sorted. So... um Yeah, it's not a perfect science. there might There might be some teams there that that that show up and like, yeah, they they shouldn't be there.
00:30:11
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe. We'll see. um i don't know. there's There's probably some improvements that can be made and I don't know what that looks like, but do they take it to somebody like like a Willy Saylor who's pretty you know historically accurate on the seating and projections and that, that type of stuff.
00:30:35
Cokeley Brothers
Um, I don't know, but I mean, the reason, you know, some people might be asking, well, why not, why not wait until we know what the lineups look like? Schedules have to be figured out months in advance. So that stuff has to all be sorted relatively quickly so that they can get everything on all of the different team schedules and have that all approved for the different conferences and blah, blah, blah. Fun, fun paperwork.
00:30:57
Cokeley Brothers
So.
00:30:58
Ryne
yeah Is that the controversy you're talking about?
00:31:02
Cokeley Brothers
That was the controversy I was talking about. People are not happy with the selection process.
00:31:04
Ryne
Lame I
00:31:06
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, ah what more controversial could it could it could it be?
00:31:10
Ryne
ah Thought you were gonna have some team conjures maybe some more more Penn State controversy. i don't know. I thought you had more for me
00:31:17
Cokeley Brothers
now I don't have anything more for you. Now, the selection happens on April 24th, so 10 days from today. so
00:31:25
Ryne
Oh I'm sorry. I'm trying to stop you on it. I'll be back give me one second.
00:31:31
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. and I'm going to pause the recording. We'll be right back. And we're back. Okay. So, where you want to go from here?
00:31:42
Ryne
<unk> I'd like to go look at the US Open.
00:31:47
Cokeley Brothers
All right. I should've known that you were going to do that. I should have pulled it up while we were waiting.
00:31:56
Cokeley Brothers
But I'm getting there. I'll get there.
00:32:00
Cokeley Brothers
So the US Open.
00:32:01
Ryne
can also we can do we could do that and then we can segue into a couple of lineups.
00:32:07
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Do you got some lineups ready for us?
00:32:11
Ryne
Got three.
00:32:13
Cokeley Brothers
You have three lineups ready for us, huh?
00:32:16
Ryne
three new ones
00:32:18
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Okay. All right. The US Open. Register now. You want me to sign in? Okay. Have you tried out the new USA bracketing system?
00:32:29
Ryne
Yeah, there's going be some growing pains.
00:32:30
Cokeley Brothers
Have you looked at it?
00:32:33
Cokeley Brothers
it It needs some polish, and that's okay. Don't worry, people. Give it a try. It'll be all right. Okay. Let's go Senior Men's Freestyle, 57 kilograms.
00:32:51
Cokeley Brothers
Let's take a look here.
00:32:54
Cokeley Brothers
Brandon Courtney, Caleb Smith, Beric Jordan, I haven't heard that name in a minute.
00:33:02
Ryne
Barry Fogleman,
00:33:02
Cokeley Brothers
ah Barak, my bad. Liam Cronin, Dominic Mudoretto, Brendan McCrone.
00:33:12
Cokeley Brothers
ah sheldons Sheldon Seymour.
00:33:15
Ryne
Barrett. Fogleman, yeah show me your nuts.
00:33:16
Cokeley Brothers
You never know. Daniel DeShazer, back down at 57. Nico Provo. Wow.
00:33:24
Ryne
who's healthy.
00:33:24
Cokeley Brothers
What the heck? I hope so. ah That's your group right now. not Not super deep.
00:33:33
Ryne
Spencer Lee is has accepted his bid.
00:33:33
Cokeley Brothers
I would...
00:33:37
Cokeley Brothers
spencer yes Spencer Lee has accepted his bid and so has Vito. And I think that's it. And I think that's all we're going to get. Well, Snyder. No.
00:33:49
Cokeley Brothers
Snyder didn't get one. Snyder has to go back through the u or the US s Open.
00:33:55
Ryne
Did Snyder get fifth at the Olympics?
00:33:57
Cokeley Brothers
He lost to Azarpira.
00:33:59
Ryne
Man, is that the first time he's never medaled?
00:34:03
Cokeley Brothers
Correct.
00:34:05
Ryne
That makes me sad. I was really hoping that dude was going to meddle every time. Just somehow, someway, he finds a way to meddle.
00:34:13
Cokeley Brothers
it's It's tough, man. ah
00:34:14
Ryne
No, I get it.
00:34:14
Cokeley Brothers
He was not on a great... Yeah.
00:34:17
Ryne
and get it.
00:34:17
Cokeley Brothers
yep So, lot of young guys here.
00:34:22
Cokeley Brothers
Dapp kind of stands out amongst them. Just because he's a bit... He's from the old guard a bit. I am looking at guys like Caleb Smith. Now we don't have the, he's not in there, but none none of the Penn state guys are signed up yet.
00:34:33
Ryne
Luke... Lilladoll's not in there right now?
00:34:38
Cokeley Brothers
They normally sign up pretty late.
00:34:38
Ryne
Yeah. Wait till the last second. Yeah.
00:34:41
Cokeley Brothers
I want to see what, I want to see what Nico Provo looks like. Uh, Liam Cronin has been around Dom Munoretto. I want to see what he does, you know, with some of these, some of these older guys and Sheldon Seymour. Let's see your your freestyle chops, but, uh,
00:34:52
Ryne
Yeah, let me see your chops. Sorry. Smacked my mic. That was an accident.
00:34:57
Cokeley Brothers
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. that's 57 kilos. Nothing... Nothing super crazy there. 61. Mikael McGee. Uh-oh.
00:35:10
Cokeley Brothers
Uh-oh. Nayshawn Garrett, Austin DeSanto, Nick Buzakis, Ben DeVino, ah Marcus Blaze,
00:35:20
Cokeley Brothers
Dayton Fix, Seth Gross, Nico Megalutis, Nathan Tomasello. Yeah. This weight is nails.
00:35:27
Ryne
Nails.
00:35:29
Cokeley Brothers
This weight is nails. Who wins this, Ryan?
00:35:33
Ryne
Marcus Blaze.
00:35:35
Cokeley Brothers
You're typing out a lineup, aren't you?
00:35:38
Ryne
I might have lied about one of the lineups I thought was done. It's just not done. No, I'm listening to you. I'm doing it all. I do think Marcus Blaze is going to win that, though.
00:35:45
Cokeley Brothers
No, I think... Blaze should... I mean, I guess if they're going to use the pin system... heat Blaze should be seated number one. He beat Fix last year. His only loss in freestyle...
00:35:56
Cokeley Brothers
ah it within the country was to veto. So he should be the top guy, but I do want to see, i always want to see Austin DeSanto, and also getting getting a look at at Ben DeVino.
00:36:12
Cokeley Brothers
That would be great. Austin DeSanto, Nashawn Garrett, Nick...
00:36:14
Ryne
Davino, one of two guys to beat Marcus Blades in high school. Can you name the other loss?
00:36:23
Cokeley Brothers
Ben DeVino...
00:36:25
Ryne
And if you, listen if any of you listeners can get it before Sammy, good job. i'm proud of you.
00:36:30
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah. ah Jax Forrest.
00:36:37
Ryne
Wrong.
00:36:38
Cokeley Brothers
I have no idea.
00:36:39
Ryne
That it never, he, Jax never beat him during the high school season.
00:36:44
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Luke Lilladol.
00:36:47
Ryne
Wrong.
00:36:48
Cokeley Brothers
Bo Bassett.
00:36:50
Ryne
No. We're getting closer.
00:36:51
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. who Ah.
00:36:54
Ryne
Leo DeLuca.
00:36:58
Cokeley Brothers
The boy from Jersey.
00:36:59
Ryne
sophomore Sophomore year, Leo beat him, and his junior year, Ben Divino beat him. Both losses are at the Ironman.
00:37:09
Cokeley Brothers
Tough tournament, tough tournament, but expect Marcus blaze to set this field on fire.
00:37:10
Ryne
Yeah.
00:37:18
Ryne
Expecto. Oh, that was loud.
00:37:22
Cokeley Brothers
That was don't wake your child up.
00:37:24
Ryne
I know she's sleeping. I've got the monitor. Carly, you want sit now.
00:37:28
Cokeley Brothers
All right. 65 kilos, Josh Coderhant.
00:37:38
Ryne
Keep going. I'm just going right up these stairs.
00:37:39
Cokeley Brothers
nobody nobody else on page one Aiden Valencia Jesse Mendez Tom Crook Vince Cornella Real Woods sorry those those were not conventionally well-known names I guess ah Carter Young Jody McKenna
00:38:01
Cokeley Brothers
That's kind of it. Interesting. All right. I mean, this is Joey McKenna's way to lose, I think. But Jesse Mendez is in there too. Aiden Valencia. Dude, this is going to be an Ohio State.
00:38:14
Cokeley Brothers
An Ohio State way. You're going to have Jesse Mendez. You're going to have Joey McKenna. And that's pretty much it. Interesting.
00:38:22
Ryne
Give me Jesse Mendez.
00:38:24
Cokeley Brothers
ah they Did they split at trials?
00:38:27
Ryne
I don't care.
00:38:30
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. i just I was asking a question, but that's fine.
00:38:32
Ryne
i know. They might have.
00:38:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. and Okay.
00:38:40
Cokeley Brothers
Is Giovanni Cassiope, is he related to Tony? I feel like he must be.
00:38:45
Ryne
They all are.
00:38:46
Cokeley Brothers
All the Cassiope's?
00:38:48
Ryne
They're a big family.
00:38:50
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, they're Italian. You know?
00:38:53
Ryne
yeah
00:38:54
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. 70 kilos. ah Speaking of relations, is Cody, Cody Welker, is that Kylie Welker's brother?
00:39:04
Ryne
Great question.
00:39:06
Cokeley Brothers
and would assume so. Wisconsin, would assume so, but maybe not.
00:39:11
Cokeley Brothers
70 kilos. Give me somebody.
00:39:13
Ryne
What if he's related to Wes Welker?
00:39:15
Cokeley Brothers
There's Drew Roberts ah and Braden Roberts. 70 kilos. My goodness. Alec Pantaleo, Yaya Thomas, James Green, Bryce Andonian, Yanni Diakamahalis, Jackson Arrington.
00:39:29
Cokeley Brothers
All signed up back to back to back. John Wiley, Will Luan, Cutter Sheets. That's the wrong sheets. Brayton Lee, Mike Van Brill, Doug Zapp.
00:39:44
Cokeley Brothers
And...
00:39:44
Ryne
Give me the Yan man.
00:39:47
Ryne
Yan.
00:39:48
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, John. Yep.
00:39:50
Ryne
Yan.
00:39:51
Cokeley Brothers
The Greek freak, 100%. one hundred percent But yeah, i it'll just be it'll be great to see a well-fed, fully healthy Yanni Diakmahalos going out there and wrestling. And I don't think i don't think field the field is not ready.
00:40:02
Ryne
Yan. yanny yanni verse green that's what i want
00:40:07
Cokeley Brothers
I hope Alec Pantaleo does something. maybe but but Let's see Alec Pantaleo get over the hump against James Green and then fall to Yanni Diakmahalos.
00:40:14
Ryne
What do you mean? He's beaten James Green before. Just not when it counts.
00:40:20
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, so lose to him this time. Beat him at trials to make Final X and then fall short to Yanni.
00:40:26
Ryne
and Yes. Yes.
00:40:28
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:40:29
Ryne
So who who gets a bid?
00:40:29
Cokeley Brothers
right.
00:40:31
Ryne
Just Dake?
00:40:32
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:40:33
Ryne
But Dake is dek going up?
00:40:34
Cokeley Brothers
Nope, Dake. So the only two people we should expect to have a bit at this point is Spencer Lee and Vito for men's freestyle.
00:40:40
Ryne
And they both accept
00:40:42
Cokeley Brothers
Both of us accepted. Yes. Dake is changing weights. Aaron Brooks is changing weights. David Taylor's not wrestling. um So that's it.
00:40:54
Cokeley Brothers
We didn't have a medal at 65. We didn't have a medal at 70. We didn't have a medal at 79. We didn't medal at 97 or heavyweight. so And the way the process works, ladies and gentlemen, ah if somebody has accepted their birth to Final X, the winner of the US Open will...
00:41:14
Cokeley Brothers
ah go meet them at Final X and wrestle. Now, if there isn't somebody sitting in Final X, the winner of the US Open sits in Final X, and then there's a World Team Trials tournament for the other position at Final X. So basically, Spencer and Vito will know their opponents after the US Open, and then all of the winners of the US Open will sit and wait to see who their opponents are from the World Team Trials, which happens later.
00:41:41
Cokeley Brothers
fun system. Greco is not involved in it in it at all. And that's because they want to know what their team is so that they can get them ready for Worlds sooner.
00:41:50
Cokeley Brothers
And those are fast facts with Sammy Coakley. 74 kilos. Jarrett JQs. Joey Bianchi. ah David Carr. Quincy Monday. Elroy Perkin has been around forever.
00:42:04
Cokeley Brothers
Terrell Barriclaw. Tyler Lillard. Let's go. Max Brignola. He's a... A guy for Lehigh, which everybody should be on alert for next year.
00:42:15
Cokeley Brothers
ah Luca Wick. Jesse Delevecchia. Ooh. Peyton Hall. And that's roughly it.
00:42:24
Ryne
Wow.
00:42:26
Cokeley Brothers
What?
00:42:27
Ryne
I thought there would definitely be more names in there.
00:42:30
Cokeley Brothers
David Carr. It's the David Carr effect.
00:42:35
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know, dude. i I don't know. i don't know what to tell you. I'm looking at 79 kilos right now.
00:42:41
Ryne
And I know nothing. This is all from the gut, ladies and gentlemen. But expect to see the one and only Jordan Burroughs.
00:42:53
Cokeley Brothers
No, no.
00:42:53
Ryne
Expect it. yeah yeah why
00:42:56
Cokeley Brothers
I'll put money down that he's not going to be at 74 kilos. He's not going to cut that weight again. He's not. He will not.
00:43:06
Ryne
we mean he's gonna have to so have you know have to on an on Olympic here me
00:43:07
Cokeley Brothers
He's not going to cut the weight for it. No, he's not going to. Right. I know, i know that he's not going to do it on an Olympic year. 100%. He will not.
00:43:19
Cokeley Brothers
Correct. That's what I meant.
00:43:24
Ryne
If you say so.
00:43:25
Cokeley Brothers
I, but I'd put money down and and here's the thing. I went either way, either I win money or I get to see Jordan Burroughs wrestle at the U S open. Either way I win. So,
00:43:37
Ryne
Hope we see all the big cats at the US Open.
00:43:42
Cokeley Brothers
Probably won't.
00:43:43
Ryne
Hope we see them all.
00:43:45
Cokeley Brothers
i don't I don't even know if we're going to see Dick wrestle this year. but
00:43:50
Cokeley Brothers
all right. 79 kilos. Danny Bronigal. ah Clayton Whiting.
00:44:01
Ryne
What about O'Toole? Is he coming down to 74?
00:44:03
Cokeley Brothers
Kennedy.
00:44:03
Ryne
Oh, yeah.
00:44:06
Cokeley Brothers
He had ACL surgery.
00:44:08
Ryne
That was of me. Excuse me. That was dumb of me.
00:44:14
Cokeley Brothers
Kennedy Monday, Evan Wick, Carson Harchla.
00:44:16
Ryne
Bleep that, please.
00:44:16
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:44:17
Ryne
Thank you.
00:44:18
Cokeley Brothers
David McFadden. I don't have those capabilities, Ryan. You're just just going to be in there. Jack Thompson, Dean Hamity.
00:44:23
Ryne
You know how to bleep things? What's wrong with you?
00:44:26
Cokeley Brothers
I just, I don't want to have to pull it. Look, there's a system. I don't want to do it. Okay. Leave me alone.
00:44:32
Ryne
this is why we need a Jamie are you trying to ah yeah
00:44:34
Cokeley Brothers
da Dean Hamity. We just need you to not say words about that. And that's roughly it. That's roughly it. Censor you? Yeah.
00:44:46
Cokeley Brothers
You want to censor yourself. You literally said bleep that for me.
00:44:53
Ryne
okay
00:44:55
Cokeley Brothers
right. Yeah, 79 kilos. Both 79 and 74 are kind of light. it's just It's that new... That fresh talent coming in. We'll see what it looks like.
00:45:08
Cokeley Brothers
Might be good, might be bad. What I need from... USA wrestling is for them to show me more than just 10 entries on a sheet on one, on one page, 86 kilos. Let's see what we got.
00:45:24
Ryne
It's got to flow then.
00:45:26
Cokeley Brothers
Just flow. Have it. They might Marcus Coleman, chance, Marsteller, Dylan fishback, Jaden Bullock, Zahid Valencia, Dustin plot and Jacob Taylor.
00:45:35
Ryne
Z.
00:45:36
Cokeley Brothers
Shout out Jake Taylor. Shout out Jake Taylor Jersey, Rob Rocco Welsh brain Thompson, Parker kick eyes.
00:45:40
Ryne
Who's Jacob Taylor?
00:45:43
Cokeley Brothers
And he was a Cornell Cornell guy, uh, flow national champion.
00:45:46
Ryne
Hmm.
00:45:49
Cokeley Brothers
And that is roughly it for 86 kilos. Did I not say Trent Hyde's name?
00:45:56
Ryne
You could have. i heard i heard heard you say Zahid Valencia and I stopped listening. yeah
00:46:04
Cokeley Brothers
Right. I don't see highly listed, which is interesting.
00:46:11
Cokeley Brothers
Why isn't he listed?
00:46:11
Ryne
this is I think this is Zahid's world. We're just living in it.
00:46:18
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, if there was a guy, if there was a guy to beat Zahid, in my mind, it's Trent or Chance, but I don't think Chance has a chance.
00:46:23
Ryne
It would be Trent.
00:46:29
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think he does, based on the way that they've wrestled each other in the past.
00:46:30
Ryne
Chance who?
00:46:32
Cokeley Brothers
Marsteller.
00:46:33
Ryne
wow i
00:46:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:37
Ryne
style
00:46:39
Cokeley Brothers
and Okay.
00:46:39
Ryne
Style matchups matter.
00:46:41
Cokeley Brothers
Right. 92 kilos. We got Aiden Sinclair, Mike Mock, Eric Schultz. Ooh, it is a short list.
00:46:52
Cokeley Brothers
Seth Shoemate. Well, this is why I wasn't seeing Trent Heidly. 92 kilos. Trent Heidly.
00:47:00
Ryne
Hell yeah.
00:47:01
Cokeley Brothers
Cam Caffey.
00:47:07
Cokeley Brothers
That's kind of it. He's really going to do 92 kilos.
00:47:13
Ryne
Why not?
00:47:15
Cokeley Brothers
Aaron Brooks.
00:47:19
Ryne
but What if Brooks doesn't wrestle this year?
00:47:22
Cokeley Brothers
What if he doesn't? What if he doesn't? Maybe he has to get healthy. He didn't wrestle at that flow card for some reason. maybe that's Maybe he's injured. Maybe he's got surgery. Who knows? They always keep everything so so close to the chest that team does.
00:47:35
Cokeley Brothers
And I hate it.
00:47:37
Ryne
Yeah.
00:47:37
Cokeley Brothers
Let me in. don't Don't try and castrate me if i if i
00:47:42
Ryne
No transparency for you.
00:47:44
Cokeley Brothers
if I want to know what your WrestleOps are like. you know Goodness. 97 kilos.
00:47:50
Ryne
God.
00:47:51
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, no. J.I.L.O. Gary Trout.
00:47:54
Ryne
So dumb.
00:47:57
Cokeley Brothers
j illo gary care tro
00:48:01
Ryne
Yeah, gas tank Gary.
00:48:01
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Guessing Gary dropping down. Gavin Hoffman.
00:48:08
Cokeley Brothers
Ethan Laird. Very short list. We are... We've got no depth at 97 kilos.
00:48:15
Ryne
It's all right. We're going to see an influx this week.
00:48:19
Cokeley Brothers
Of entries?
00:48:20
Ryne
Mm-hmm.
00:48:21
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Hopefully some some quality ones too. Okay. Well, let's move it on up to heavyweight. We got Luke Stoddard, Jordan Wood. Uh, Demetrius Thomas, big Meech.
00:48:35
Cokeley Brothers
Devin Dawson, shout out. Christian Lance, shout out. Nick Feldman, Alex Trent Hilger, Trevor Tinker.
00:48:52
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Well, that was my, uh, list off all the names in a tournament that are of significance.
00:49:00
Ryne
Hopefully Gable shows up.
00:49:01
Cokeley Brothers
Bit.
00:49:03
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and Wyatt and Kirk.
00:49:06
Ryne
Mason. Kirk is hurt.
00:49:08
Cokeley Brothers
And Mason. Kirk is hurt. Is he like hurt hurt? Beyond repair hurt?
00:49:13
Ryne
And beyond repair.
00:49:13
Cokeley Brothers
Well, needs repair hurt?
00:49:15
Ryne
Yeah, probably probably won't be seeing Kirk until next year.
00:49:19
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. I thought... ah Is it Mason Paris trying to be in the NFL? Isn't that is another a thing?
00:49:25
Ryne
have no clue. Could be.
00:49:27
Cokeley Brothers
I think he's trying to he's trying out for the Bengals, maybe. So we might have lost Mason Paris.
00:49:34
Ryne
Joe Burrow.
00:49:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:49:38
Ryne
Joe Burrow.
00:49:40
Cokeley Brothers
Joe Burr.
00:49:41
Ryne
He's going to be gonna be defending Joe Burrow.
00:49:45
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, did you see Hendrickson's post this weekend?
00:49:50
Ryne
Which one?
00:49:50
Cokeley Brothers
He's at the UFC event.
00:49:52
Ryne
Oh, yeah.
00:49:52
Cokeley Brothers
He's at the UFC event. He should hang out with Zac Efron. Well, at least got a photo with him.
00:49:56
Ryne
Yeah.
00:49:58
Cokeley Brothers
Jealousy.
00:49:59
Ryne
Yeah, he's pretty cool dude.
00:49:59
Cokeley Brothers
I'm rife with it.
00:50:01
Ryne
He's pretty cool dude.
00:50:01
Cokeley Brothers
pretty cool He's pretty cool guy, huh?
00:50:05
Ryne
Life changed. 30 seconds, his life changed.
00:50:09
Cokeley Brothers
and Now, but hang on. that moment That moment required a lifetime of dedication and hard work.
00:50:16
Ryne
Oh, don't get me wrong. but I'm just saying it changed his life changed in 30 seconds.
00:50:19
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Yeah, it's crazy. It is crazy. Crazy, crazy. Hopefully it's changing for the better. Okay.
00:50:29
Ryne
i don't think I don't think we'll be losing Wyatt to arrogance anytime soon.
00:50:29
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:50:35
Cokeley Brothers
Probably not.
00:50:36
Ryne
just too goofy too goofy to be arrogant show all right oh we're not gonna talk about a little lineup I got let me I got to at least to
00:50:38
Cokeley Brothers
So happy-go-lucky.
00:50:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Alright.
00:50:46
Cokeley Brothers
I think it's time to wrap it up.
00:50:50
Cokeley Brothers
Oh!
00:50:54
Cokeley Brothers
Let's rip two off. Also, your I've got your camera here. got to mail it out, too.
00:50:58
Ryne
sick four k
00:51:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. What?
00:51:02
Ryne
four k
00:51:04
Cokeley Brothers
No, 720. 720.
00:51:06
Ryne
Yours is 4K, mine's not.
00:51:08
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, well, you said, Sammy, why haven't you bought me a camera yet? And when you make a demand for me to buy you a camera, it's going to be whatever quality I pick.
00:51:19
Ryne
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's time out here real fast.
00:51:27
Ryne
I never demanded the camera from you.
00:51:27
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:51:30
Ryne
You said you were buying Reese and I cameras. That's what you said. I never asked. Never.
00:51:38
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Okay.
00:51:39
Ryne
Never.
00:51:40
Cokeley Brothers
And so when I say that.
00:51:40
Ryne
And then you said it. And then, e know, one never appeared. So I asked, Sammy, I thought you said you were buying us cameras. What happened?
00:51:51
Cokeley Brothers
And so were there any requisites?
00:51:53
Ryne
That question would have, that question would have never Ever, ever been asked if you never said.
00:52:00
Cokeley Brothers
Were there are any requisites set to the quality of the camera?
00:52:07
Ryne
i just thought we were getting the same one that you got. That's all I thought.
00:52:09
Cokeley Brothers
Here's the deal. Here's the deal. i I do a little bit of video on my own. So whenever I'm full screen, whenever I take up the whole shebang, I need to not look like a freaking Minecraft character.
00:52:20
Cokeley Brothers
Dude,
00:52:20
Ryne
I was ready to do a solo a solo adventure on tonight. I was ready.
00:52:25
Cokeley Brothers
I would have let you rip it. i would have let you rip it
00:52:29
Ryne
Dude, it was going to be good. I was prepared. Like, you don't understand. i was prepared. I was like, you know what? I have a feeling that these two might flake on me tonight. a
00:52:39
Cokeley Brothers
I would dude, dude.
00:52:39
Ryne
I better prepare myself.
00:52:42
Cokeley Brothers
Good luck finding me in a situation where I'm going to say no. Thank you to recording a podcast episode.
00:52:46
Ryne
No, you're right. you're right you just just You were MIA there for a while.
00:52:49
Cokeley Brothers
Good luck.
00:52:50
Ryne
I hadn't heard hadn't heard from you for over 12 hours, so I was worried.
00:52:50
Cokeley Brothers
I was running wrestling practice for the last two and a hours of the, that, that time span.
00:52:55
Ryne
Yeah,
00:52:58
Ryne
it was long done.
00:52:59
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:53:00
Ryne
Did you see that TikTok I sent you, though?
00:53:00
Cokeley Brothers
ah Enough.
00:53:03
Cokeley Brothers
No. No. It was a busy day. It was a busy day. Just let's move on to the lineups.
00:53:08
Cokeley Brothers
I'll look at it after we record. After we finish recording.
00:53:08
Ryne
tim
00:53:10
Ryne
Okay. Ohio State. This is who we're going to start off with.
00:53:13
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. i should I should probably pull it up. You go ahead.
00:53:18
Ryne
you know So this year their lineup was Brendan McCrone, Nick Buzakis, Jesse Mendez, Dylan D'Amelio, Brandon Cannon, Patty Gallagher, Carson Karchla, Ryder Rogotsky, Seth Shoemate, and Nick Feldman.
00:53:35
Cokeley Brothers
Correct.
00:53:35
Ryne
okay
00:53:37
Ryne
So next year, what I have them looking looking like is a lot of the same – some differences in here. right Now, there are some question marks – All right, like 25.
00:53:50
Ryne
Are we going to see Brendan McCrone? Is Vinny Kilkery going to get in there? like What's going to happen there? you know I've got Vinny. I've got Vinny finally getting over the hump and starting his sophomore year, redshirt sophomore year. And this is where it continues to stay muddy.
00:54:10
Ryne
This is probably about as clear as the mud gets. 133, I think we're going to see Ben DeVino, right?
00:54:18
Cokeley Brothers
I would assume so.
00:54:21
Ryne
They're either going to move on from Nick Bousakis or they're going to do a shift. So what I got is Vinny Kilkery, Ben DeVino, Nick Bousakis at 41, Mendez 49 with Maddox Shaw redshirting behind him.
00:54:37
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:54:38
Ryne
You return with Brandon Cannon for his sophomore year, 57. fifty seven You got Ethan Baird in. With the craziest way to spell Ethan that I've ever seen in my entire life, but I love it.
00:54:50
Ryne
um And then 74, is Patty Gallagher going to be big enough for 74? He might be their only option.
00:54:58
Cokeley Brothers
Here's my question.
00:55:01
Cokeley Brothers
Doesn't Carson Hartschel have another year?
00:55:03
Ryne
Dude, I was trying to figure that out. I could not.
00:55:06
Cokeley Brothers
So here's what WrestleStat has. It's weird. So 2020 redshirt, 2021 medical year, 2023 year, 2024 medical redshirt. Well, maybe. Maybe.
00:55:19
Cokeley Brothers
well maybe
00:55:20
Ryne
he So he's got two years left.
00:55:23
Cokeley Brothers
Well, no, because 2025 junior year. So he's used three years.
00:55:28
Ryne
Yeah, but well why would he, if you MedRed on that 21 year, you could definitely, no, okay.
00:55:29
Cokeley Brothers
22, 23, 25. No, no, no, no.
00:55:36
Cokeley Brothers
so that Then, then, then, uh, Ryan, then what's his name would have wrestled at NCAAs this year.
00:55:36
Ryne
They won't let you.
00:55:41
Ryne
No, totally different. Totally different.
00:55:44
Cokeley Brothers
Was he not hurt that year?
00:55:46
Ryne
Is that what they said he was? He was hurt?
00:55:47
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Yes.
00:55:52
Cokeley Brothers
yeah that that year here's That year exists in a vacuum. you There's nothing that can come out of it, and there's nothing that can go into it.
00:55:57
Ryne
So dumb. It was so dumb.
00:55:59
Cokeley Brothers
It's just they did not handle it right.
00:56:00
Ryne
It was so dumb for them to stay it was so dumb for them to say that the the year doesn't count towards eligibility.
00:56:02
Cokeley Brothers
They didn't handle it right.
00:56:06
Ryne
You know what? They could have done that, and then they said, but if you wrestle or if you compete at a conference ah championship, or a national championship, then it counts.
00:56:17
Ryne
If the conference and national championships happen then and you compete in it, then it counts. But if you didn't, then it's a free year for you.
00:56:25
Cokeley Brothers
Right, because it creates this anomaly where where Carter Starach is and almost certainly will be the only five-time NCAA wrestling champion that we ever get.
00:56:33
Ryne
Exactly.
00:56:35
Cokeley Brothers
And it's frustrating.
00:56:38
Cokeley Brothers
Very frustrating. Anyway, so, but he's used three years, 22, 23, and 25. Now, I don't know if he gets a medical red shirt for last year. He wrestled 15 matches. I don't know. don't know.
00:56:50
Cokeley Brothers
So, maybe Carson Hartzell is back, maybe not. I don't know.
00:56:53
Ryne
I'm putting him in underneath Patty here and we'll give him a little question mark.
00:57:00
Cokeley Brothers
Patty at 174 is interesting to me because he was wrestling 57 this year. I don't know if he's going to be like big enough. I don't even know if he's got the frame for 74.
00:57:07
Ryne
They can get big enough. they got they got the program They got the weight program for it though.
00:57:14
Cokeley Brothers
So just going to be a rock of muscle. So here's my next question.
00:57:16
Ryne
sorry Could be.
00:57:19
Cokeley Brothers
Ethan Burden, how good is he?
00:57:21
Ryne
And then the next three weight classes are all the same. Ryder, Seth Shoemate, Nick Feldman. That's what I got.
00:57:27
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Ethan Burden went nine and six this year. he had losses to Brignola, who we talked about being good. Luca Augustine up at 174. Drayton Morton, Ryan Ford, Andrew Barbosa, Bo Manchinona. Those are all pretty solid losses, except for maybe this, these Morton and Ford losses, maybe not so good.
00:57:48
Cokeley Brothers
um Who did he beat? He beat Brayden Scholes. Okay. Okay. Who else? That's kind of it. That's not a best on a bad win at all.
00:58:00
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. He can be good for them. For sure.
00:58:03
Ryne
Now, if they don't do the lineup shift, then I fully expect to see Shaw in at 49.
00:58:10
Cokeley Brothers
and Okay. So that would be me Mendez at 41, Shaw at 49, and Nick Buzak is wrestling for Pitt.
00:58:14
Ryne
Yeah.
00:58:17
Ryne
Maybe. Or just, you know, bench, right on the bench.
00:58:18
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe.
00:58:22
Cokeley Brothers
Bench time. Does he red shirt?
00:58:25
Ryne
No. He used his.
00:58:26
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Okay.
00:58:27
Ryne
Mendez has one, but not Bousakis.
00:58:30
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:58:31
Ryne
Same class.
00:58:31
Cokeley Brothers
Mendes says, no shirt for me.
00:58:34
Ryne
Didn't need it.
00:58:36
Cokeley Brothers
Well, he could have four-timer.
00:58:40
Ryne
Didn't need it.
00:58:44
Cokeley Brothers
What about Geog?
00:58:48
Cokeley Brothers
What about Geog? Geog?
00:58:50
Ryne
Yeah, I mean, he's going to be in a lineup battle with Seth. Same same way he was this year.
00:58:55
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. You don't think neither of them... You don't see Shume or Geog dropping down to 84?
00:59:00
Ryne
Seth shows so much promise.
00:59:04
Cokeley Brothers
He does.
00:59:05
Ryne
He's got,
00:59:06
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, he was he was good in high school. He was so good.
00:59:09
Ryne
he was, I mean, well, let's back up. So good. He took some weird losses in high school too.
00:59:14
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, no, he like peaked and then valleyed in high school and then came back up in college.
00:59:19
Ryne
Like straight up did not place at super 32 once.
00:59:22
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, dude. And I watched the losses and I was like...
00:59:24
Ryne
Yeah.
00:59:25
Cokeley Brothers
I just watched you win Fargo, like either this summer or last summer. I don't remember when, but this was bizarre.
00:59:28
Ryne
No, it was that summer at the, you know, so and then super 30. Yeah, it was a bad deal.
00:59:32
Cokeley Brothers
Right. So like that, that's why it's, people don't talk about Sushumate a lot, even though, man, he was pretty freaking good in high school.
00:59:39
Ryne
I'm just talking like towards the end of the year this year, he started really kind of find himself. I feel like I think if he keeps doing that, then we're going to see some good things out of them.
00:59:43
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yep.
00:59:49
Cokeley Brothers
I agree. I agree. Ohio State's going to have a good team. Now, I am worried. I'm worried that they're going to start losing lose an ammunition soon. But for now, yeah, because they don't have a whole lot coming in.
01:00:00
Ryne
Yeah.
01:00:03
Cokeley Brothers
But yeah, a combination of Kilcarrie and McCrone, that's great. Divino at 33, I think, is an automatic all-American contender. um Buzakis or Mendez, whoever you get at 41.
01:00:15
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, Mendez would be better than Bousakis, obviously, but i mean, you're going to have ben Mendez either at 41 or
01:00:18
Ryne
ah They were ah really wanted Marcus Blaze. They were going to shift him in there at 41. Slide Mendez up for sure.
01:00:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that would have been gnarly. That would have been a very solid starting four. And then Cannon at 57. That's a... That first half of your lineup, that's a dual winning lineup.
01:00:41
Cokeley Brothers
then you have Feldman to be your closer. Yeah. Okay, this is a great team. They're still gonna be good next year.
01:00:47
Ryne
I like this team. All right. Now let's go check out their rivals.
01:00:53
Cokeley Brothers
Ooh, Michigan.
01:00:55
Ryne
Michigan. is going to be a little bit tougher. All right. I think their lineup, especially at the bottom, is going to look a lot different. And at the top, actually. It's all going to look different. I have one weight where I have no one in there.
01:01:09
Ryne
That's 197. No clue who it's going
01:01:11
Cokeley Brothers
I saw that.
01:01:12
Ryne
have no clue who it's going to be.
01:01:14
Cokeley Brothers
You have no clue, huh?
01:01:16
Ryne
None. Well, I mean, obviously there's clues, but like I'm thinking they're probably going to pull someone in from the portal. At least I keep hoping they will.
01:01:24
Cokeley Brothers
OK. OK.
01:01:26
Ryne
But, yeah,
01:01:29
Ryne
yeah I mean, so here's what I got. got Chris Kaiser, Fargo champ. He shows Oklahoma boy, shows a lot of promise. I think he can maybe do something when he gets in here.
01:01:41
Cokeley Brothers
OK.
01:01:43
Ryne
um
01:01:43
Cokeley Brothers
her
01:01:44
Ryne
Dylan Ragason. coming back now WrestleStat did not have rags on there oh he is okay all right but because when i was doing this earlier I was like there's no Dylan Ragason on here is uh it made me sad honestly like initially I was like oh my god I'm i cry but I didn't I did not cry because what wait what's the quote because who would care
01:01:51
Cokeley Brothers
he's be He's on there now.
01:02:02
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Yeah. Good job.
01:02:14
Ryne
Conquest.
01:02:14
Cokeley Brothers
but don't know.
01:02:14
Ryne
What does he say? He said, someone was like, I could cry, but I don't.
01:02:16
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, right.
01:02:20
Ryne
Because why would it matter?
01:02:20
Cokeley Brothers
i don't remember what the full quote is. Yeah.
01:02:22
Ryne
Something like that. Anyway, all right. Lemley at 41. Gilcher, 49. Cam Catrabone, 57. like that.
01:02:28
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
01:02:28
Ryne
cam caterbone fifty seven and like that
01:02:32
Cokeley Brothers
yep
01:02:33
Ryne
I like that first half. Kaiser, Ragason, Lemley, Gilcher, Catrabone. That's a solid first half. It's a young first half led by, I guess, Dylan Ragason.
01:02:44
Cokeley Brothers
yeah and lemony's a junior but still a true junior
01:02:45
Ryne
Right?
01:02:49
Ryne
True. Yeah. ah Your top half, we got Bowman, Brockman, De Al Capone, VZ. Very tough. Very tough.
01:03:00
Cokeley Brothers
good question question teacher what about jaden bolak yep he's got another year
01:03:00
Ryne
I'm... Yep. Go ahead.
01:03:06
Ryne
He's got another year. thought he was done.
01:03:10
Ryne
Let's do this. Let's shift VZ because I heard VZ is pretty big now. I thought he was going to be a lifetime 84. I heard he's pretty big. Let's shift him up.
01:03:22
Ryne
He also has a red shirt. They could red shirt this kid, this VZ kid.
01:03:25
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
01:03:26
Ryne
Very good.
01:03:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
01:03:27
Ryne
um Let's shift him up though to 97. We'll put Bullock in here at 84. This is what it's going to be, guys. Now we got a full lineup. Starting back at 65, we've got Bo Mantanona, 74, Brock Mantanona, 84, the return of Jaden Bullock. Is he a senior next year then, or this next season?
01:03:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yes.
01:03:47
Ryne
Okay. And then 197, the true freshman, DeAl Capone VZ. And then the portal, the portal boy, Tay Gahaldi. Gahaldi Holly.
01:04:00
Ryne
I know say it.
01:04:00
Cokeley Brothers
God, yeah.
01:04:02
Ryne
I'm not sure.
01:04:02
Cokeley Brothers
Tay Ghirardelli.
01:04:03
Ryne
Ghirardelli. Ghirardelli. The best chocolate on earth.
01:04:06
Cokeley Brothers
Hell yeah.
01:04:07
Ryne
Yeah, 100% better.
01:04:08
Cokeley Brothers
this so I think this is a better team than their 2025 team. I think it is.
01:04:13
Ryne
ah yeah one hundred cent is' better
01:04:15
Cokeley Brothers
So, yeah. I mean, they had their start their start at with 25 and 33 was not good, especially after losing Ragason. Now, Ragason back. We'll see what Kaiser's like.
01:04:27
Cokeley Brothers
Um... That could be, depending on how good christs Kaiser is, if you have saw a solid guy, like ah a ranked guy at Kaiser, Ragason, who's an all-American level dude, even though even though I'm starting to think that 133 is going to be of a nightmare weight class, like so tough.
01:04:45
Ryne
It's going to be awesome
01:04:47
Cokeley Brothers
41, Sergio Lemley, who had a little a sophomore slump. We'll see if he kind of comes back up. and and rounds into shape. He finished out the round of 12 was solid finish, but he definitely wants more. Dylan Gilder at 49. See if he can really, uh, is this his sophomore year?
01:04:59
Ryne
awesome. Sorry.
01:05:01
Cokeley Brothers
It must be.
01:05:02
Ryne
Yeah, yes, yeah.
01:05:03
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, yep.
01:05:04
Ryne
Redshirt sophomore.
01:05:05
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
01:05:06
Cokeley Brothers
Cam catcher bone.
01:05:06
Ryne
I think they graish i think gray-shirted Catcher Bone and then redshirted him this year.
01:05:13
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
01:05:14
Cokeley Brothers
Catcher bone. I am excited about, I have high expectations for him. Bowman, Brockman, absolutely love it. Jaden Bullock, he's he'll be a staple. ah NCAA qualifier caliber guy. We'll see if he can kind of break through outside of that.
01:05:14
Ryne
That's what it was.
01:05:27
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know what to expect from Diakoponvizzi. High expectations, hopefully. And Teh Godali, probably going to be contending for a title along with a laundry list of heavyweights. I think i think it's going to be a kind of wide open situation next year.
01:05:43
Ryne
All right. Sure. But also, ah kind of feel like right now, if you were to put him in tiers, wouldn't you say Younger's kind of in a tier by himself right now?
01:05:54
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know what think. Maybe. Like, like peak younger? i could.
01:05:58
Ryne
Younger was, before Younger got hurt at Nationals, he was so good, dude.
01:05:58
Cokeley Brothers
I could do that.
01:06:02
Cokeley Brothers
I know. Yeah. Peak younger, I could do that. But also, I want to see what he does against Nick Feldman and Ben Keeter. Take a dolly if he continues to improve. There's going some heavyweights. There's be some good heavyweights next year.
01:06:17
Ryne
Now, keep your eye on the portal.
01:06:18
Cokeley Brothers
Now that we've lost it the three Titans.
01:06:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:06:19
Ryne
Keep your eye on the portal.
01:06:21
Ryne
um
01:06:21
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Cole Mirasola.
01:06:22
Ryne
If the TJ Stewart rumor is true about coming up, that would be a big pull for them.
01:06:28
Cokeley Brothers
97. I mean, or if he's good enough, throw him in an A4. Take Bullock out.
01:06:34
Ryne
I know they've been taking some lumps because I know they were really throwing some money at
01:06:42
Ryne
Missouri boy, Elam.
01:06:44
Cokeley Brothers
Rocky.
01:06:45
Ryne
Yeah.
01:06:48
Ryne
the
01:06:48
Cokeley Brothers
Interesting. ah um I'm very surprised that he hit the portal.
01:06:53
Ryne
Well, I mean, it was kind of like the writing was a little bit on the wall when his brother went to Rutgers or went to Scarlet Knight Wrestling Club,
01:06:53
Cokeley Brothers
Very surprised.
Unclear Relationships and Potential Lineups
01:07:00
Ryne
right?
01:07:01
Ryne
You kind of thought that maybe rock that Rocky might be a
01:07:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, a little bit.
01:07:06
Cokeley Brothers
I guess you're right. It was just weird because like, i i don't I guess I don't know what his relationship is with Bash, but Bash was talking like like Elam was steadfast.
01:07:07
Ryne
and
01:07:15
Cokeley Brothers
I'm ah i a tiger. don't know.
01:07:21
Ryne
know Sometimes you just need to change the pace a little bit.
01:07:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. There you have it. More lineups. More on the way.
01:07:30
Ryne
Yeah, we'll do.
01:07:30
Cokeley Brothers
Some of these.
01:07:31
Ryne
We'll do just so you guys know we'll do at least Iowa State and Rutgers next time.
01:07:40
Cokeley Brothers
And.
01:07:42
Ryne
You want me to Indiana too? I'll throw Indiana in there.
01:07:45
Cokeley Brothers
don't do it. Don't do it yet. We're not there yet.
01:07:47
Ryne
I'm not ready for Indiana.
01:07:48
Cokeley Brothers
No, because we don't know what their lineup looks like yet.
01:07:52
Ryne
I can look or I can guess.
01:07:54
Cokeley Brothers
ah
01:07:55
Ryne
So all I've been doing, I've literally been doing that this entire time.
01:07:55
Cokeley Brothers
But you can't. Yeah, but there's some names there's some names that aren't directly tied to Indiana yet. so i think well I think we have Cornell down pretty well.
01:08:01
Ryne
I wonder if I'm going to get any of these right. I don't think so.
01:08:09
Ryne
Oh, well, that that's because we cheated, but.
01:08:12
Cokeley Brothers
Nah, whatever.
01:08:15
Cokeley Brothers
We could be wrong too.
01:08:15
Ryne
no
01:08:16
Cokeley Brothers
so Alright, I think that's the episode. I think we've got to wrap it up and get out of here.
Interviews and Upcoming Events
01:08:21
Ryne
Any more, you got any more interviews coming up, Sammy?
01:08:26
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Jacob Cardenas should be coming up soon. ah he's in Amsterdam right now, but I might just record it in the morning at like 8am with him.
01:08:37
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, and just get it in. oh we'll see. We'll see what the internet's like for him. I don't know. So, and then i' Julian Ramirez is on the docket.
01:08:42
Ryne
would be a good one.
01:08:46
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know if I'm going to wait. Cause I think I'm also going to bring him down here for a clinic. So I don't know if I'm going to do that in person or, or what.
01:08:53
Ryne
Are you bringing him down to Bama?
01:08:53
Cokeley Brothers
So,
01:08:55
Cokeley Brothers
Well, he does a thing where he like goes from Ithaca down home to Florida, and so I'm to be like one of the last stops.
01:09:02
Ryne
I forgot he's a southerner.
01:09:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Florida boy.
01:09:07
Ryne
always forget that.
01:09:07
Cokeley Brothers
Cubano.
Closing Jokes and Listener Engagement
01:09:09
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, thank you. Thank you, everybody, for listening to the episode. I hope you have a good day.
01:09:13
Ryne
Yeah, and leave lots of comments yeah telling Reese how much he sucks for skipping out on us.
01:09:18
Cokeley Brothers
i So there's two things you can do. You can either say that he sucks for skipping out or you can say that you felt like this episode was wasn't the same. Actually, no, no. Don't do that. Don't inflate his ego.
01:09:28
Ryne
Tell him he sucks.
01:09:30
Cokeley Brothers
Tommy sucks.
01:09:30
Ryne
Tell him he sucks.
01:09:32
Cokeley Brothers
That's the final word. Reese sucks.
01:09:33
Ryne
him he sucks. and then if he And then if he tries to get you to apologize, don't.
01:09:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Reese sucks. Ryan and Sammy out.