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Session 74 - US Open Preview
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The boys are back and diving deep into the US Open Senior level entries as we start the process of determining our world teams. A lot of new faces will be making their way onto the team, who from the old guard will remain? Lastly, go checkout www.gablegame.com to try your hand at some wrestling trivia!
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Introduction and Episode Overview
00:00:01
Speaker
Welcome back to the Barn Session, everybody. Got a very special episode. It's a sponsored episode. But sponsored by me. We'll get into that later.
Sports Updates: U.S. Open and Kanye's Tweet
00:00:11
Speaker
The U.S. s Open is this week.
00:00:13
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ah There's more transfer news. I don't have a real name for it yet. ah This episode is brought to you by the latest Kanye West tweet. I just want to see you guys read it. And then I want you what your reaction etched in eternity.
00:00:33
Speaker
That's awful. I want to see it. We've got... Don't make me read it. We've got a brief... I'm going to it. but Okay. is that is So are you still on Twitter?
00:00:44
Speaker
I don't You might have taken this one down, but there's plenty of screenshots out there. I don't think... I don't think Elon is big on taking people off.
00:00:58
Speaker
Uh, is it the one where he said, this song is called Cousins? That's the one. Read that. Locked in. Read it. Read it. Look at. That's what you told
00:01:14
Speaker
Dude, what?
00:01:26
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Worth it. tweet sent that's a crazy tweet
00:01:33
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holy crap yeah i'm glad i i'm glad i waited i'm glad i didn't i thought about that earlier today when i saw this so i was like you know what i'm gonna wait until we podcast that's insane um Let's start with some of this transfer news.
Iowa's Wrestling Lineup and Key Predictions
00:01:52
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Smaller, less active transfer portal in the last week. ah But today, Iowa's lineup was pretty much finalized.
00:02:03
Speaker
At least they have all of the pieces of the puzzle that they're going to work with. That is if Masoma decides to not dip. Bale again. Yeah, he won't. Yeah, he can't. It's not like he can go back to D3. He can't.
00:02:17
Speaker
He cannot do it. He can't. He was only given ah and ah year of D1 eligibility. I believe that is all that the waiver is for. and yeah so that was to my understanding, at least as our resident expert of the non-Division One wrestling fields collegiately.
00:02:37
Speaker
Reese Russell, where, you know, stuff. Well, I just, cause you've been coaching there for, oh you know, um, where would you stack up and Dean Masuma and Dean three time, uh, D three champ amongst the one 97 field.
00:02:55
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No junior college championships though. Just saying, um,
00:03:02
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in the rest of the field, I don't know. His matchup with Elam is super intriguing.
00:03:10
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Elam, Ferrari, Barr. have Yeah, those two. Maybe Merrill.
00:03:18
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Or Braden Thompson. Or Braden Thompson. Whatever Oklahoma does with their lineup. Oklahoma State. Yeah, that one. Not the other one. Sorry. Sooners. Cowboys.
00:03:30
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Bedlam. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, All-American type guy, but I don't see him breaching the top three. and Okay. Yeah. Dude. Yeah. I don't know.
00:03:41
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I don't think he could take down Ferrari. They're saying All-American Locke. Locke? You think so? Locke? I don't know. that's what i've I've never even seen him wrestle. ah He's very explosive.
00:03:52
Speaker
He's good. The kid is good. Dude, the way he cartwheeled that guy at U23s, Pan Ams, I know it's Pan Ams. It's not the toughest thing, but still.
00:04:04
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He's good. He's strong. He's explosive. I mean, he'll
National Duels Strategy and Controversy
00:04:07
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he'll be built for it. And then he's going to have, you know, Ferrari and Keeter. Gabe Arnold, Keeter. yeah Steven Buchanan's hanging around. you He's going to have partners.
00:04:21
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Yeah. he'll So he'll be good for them. So their lineup is like Dean Peterson, Drake Ayala, Nasir Bailey, Jordan Williams, Estrada, Caliendo, Kennedy, Ferrari, ah and Dean, and Keeter.
00:04:39
Speaker
Now there's the... the potential that people have talked about of uh cali and no dropping down and kennedy dropping not gonna happen and then and then arnold wrestling 74 it's just not up it's i would i would not count on it i wouldn't bet on it i wouldn't assume it's gonna happen but drake ayala alluded to the fact that it's possible i guess kind of so i don't know i could see it you could see cali and oh making 157 I don't know I really don't know about Caliendo. I don't know how big he is, but I could totally see Kennedy back down at 65. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah yeah yeah
00:05:14
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Kennedy for sure. i just don't think i don't think you do that to Caliendo. He's huge. Yeah. yeah i don't Big boy? I don't want to mess with that. Would you say he's like taller than Messenbringer? I would say they're about the same height.
00:05:26
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Yeah, neither of them are very tall for the weight necessarily. You don't think so? You think they're like 5'10", like my height? I feel like they're both like my height. Probably. Yeah. I mean, Messenberg's not a big 65. They have Caliendo's height on... Oh, yeah.
00:05:41
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Forgot that Iowa does that.
00:05:44
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How can you trust it? Yeah, can't. don't know. Iowa's lineup... And it's it's a good one, too. and They will be ready for national duels. And there's – dude, did you guys listen to Willie and his ah expository rant about national duels?
00:06:02
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This man's legs are just so humongous, dude. That's what I keep looking at.
00:06:07
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and I mean – Legs. I didn't, I don't remember. Jog my memory. don't remember. he He was, well, he he was calling, he was calling everybody an idiot, basically.
00:06:19
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Mostly everybody. The people that were saying that national duels is illegitimate because Penn State's not there. ah The people that were mad at Penn State for not attending ah for, I can't remember why. He practiced the whole thing by saying, listen, you know, I'm talking about certain fans here. Yeah. You know,
00:06:40
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And then Bash is like, you're calling all the Penn State fans. Right. Right. And Willie's saying, no no, no, no, no. Don't insulate them because I'm talking about a very specific group. Do not...
00:06:53
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You're not trying to offend these people. i will What Willie was saying was very justified because, I mean, I even put a tweet out. was like, you know, ah with national duels happening and Penn State not going, what are the chances we get to see Oklahoma State, Penn State?
00:07:05
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And then and I think most of my most of the Twitter following is just Oklahoma State people, and they're like, nah, those Penn State cupcakes don't want to wrestle Oklahoma State. And then there were some people that were like, why why even wrestle the duel? Penn state's going to win seven or eight of the matches. That guy, that guy who was like, they would walk, they would walk through the competition.
00:07:24
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ah essentially was like, then what that's, isn't that all the more reason to do it? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Look, I get it. I get the explanation of Kale Sanderson has a formula and he doesn't and it works. So why mess it with it?
00:07:39
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I totally get it. And why does the formula work the way it works? I don't know. It's not my job to figure it out. And Kale Sanderson's going to you know a way better head coach than I would ever be. So whatever.
00:07:51
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ah I do, you know, the $200,000 is kind of like, you know, why do would you want to not take that? But I guess if you go out there and you do that and you have a Nick Suriano twist his ankle wrestling a ah Nick Piccinini, then yeah, that is like, well, I just lost one of my guys.
00:08:09
Speaker
And that sucks. But that can happen at any match. It happened to Carter Starachi wrestling what's his name? And also, he's so deep at each weight class. Is that really even a problem?
00:08:21
Speaker
Yeah, it's a great. I mean, but like, yeah, if he if he's strictly worried about winning a team title, ah dude, he can lose maybe up to half his starters and still.
00:08:32
Speaker
How about this? Don't send your guys to national duels. Send your B team. You might still win it. that would be That would be crazy. I don't know. I think it's fine that they don't go because without them, I don't know who wins it.
00:08:49
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I want lose it. like think they should send their B team. I think that's the greatest idea I've ever had. It's not a bad idea. It's not a bad idea Think about it. These guys probably aren't making as much NIL money as the other guys anyway.
00:09:01
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Right. It's like, hey, you guys want to... Send out the B squad. You want to go all make 20K? Go get it done. and Send out some of your freshmen. you know It can be one of their competitions or whatever. One of their weigh-ins.
Seeding Politics and Tournament Operations
00:09:15
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Yeah, Ryan, I don't ah and don't hate that idea. But Kael Sanderson hates it. so Who could hate that idea? I bet he doesn't. I bet he's never even thought of it. But if we presented it to Kael, he'd be like, you know what? I'm back in.
00:09:29
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Do you think if he said, I'm back and I'm taking my B squad today, that they would let him in? Yes. Oh, yeah. Or do you think, ah well, because you know who runs, who like the tournament operator is? It's Oklahoma State, right?
00:09:41
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but Well, there's one specific name. The Paycom guy? No, it's Matt Serber, like the operator of the tournament, the director or whatever. Oh, Luke's dad. Yes. I mean, it's very it's like it is it is Oklahoma State-centric.
00:09:54
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Now, you know, Willie also talked about the fact that ah the... the the, you know, there's, there's discrepancy between the field selection and then the seating situation. And, you know, flows kind of got their hands in the pot because they don't get to host the broadcast of the finals. Cause that's for yeah ESPN, but they get everything else.
00:10:15
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And so, you know, they want Oklahoma state, Iowa in the semis. And so they want to seat it accordingly to that. and But Willie Saylor's on the seating committee, but he also talked about the fact that sometimes he's on the seating committee and they let the seating committee do whatever they want or whatever they, you know, they want, they should do.
00:10:31
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And sometimes he's on a seating committee and you know the powers that be step in and say, we'll take care of this. Which kind of pisses me off because it just feels... i don't like that idea.
00:10:44
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But...
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Yeah.
00:10:50
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You alright, Ryan? Yep, I'm good. ah like got So that's National Duels. 5'8". um does it i' have eight
00:11:01
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little tom cruise he can do it yeah dude look at his legs yeah legs can shrink right yeah so you're telling me you're telling me jordan burrows can make 57 he's five oh all right hang on he's five eight he's got like a six six wingspan yeah he is he's got that wingspan dude but he is he is is that short yeah probably shorter than that And his, dude, his bag is huge.
00:11:31
Speaker
5'8", that's two inches shorter than me. That's about right. I mean, I don't know. I don't know how to quantify Jordan Burroughs.
00:11:42
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He can't be quantified. um You can't. You just can't. So that's National Duels. Transfers, Lachlan McNeil going to Michigan.
00:11:53
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ah Ohio State picked up Chittum and somebody else, Stiles. Oklahoma picked up. And Don Moretto. Yeah, they got high school two-time world champ.
00:12:06
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Two-time world champ. Moretto. um the The one guy, the guy, the guy, the guy. John Wiley left Oklahoma, but then Tyler Wells...
00:12:18
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committed to Oklahoma. John Wiley left. I didn't know that. john riley left and And Peyton Keller is going to Oklahoma. Yep. It's a little bit of a reload. Yeah.
00:12:29
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That's why Kelly Wells left.
00:12:33
Speaker
I was reading something on Twitter about like, he didn't really want to wrestle D one. He wanted to go back to St. Cloud state, which was obviously not the case. Who said that?
00:12:43
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Willie said that too. He said the same thing. he' an Interesting. anything He said he didn't even want to wrestle going into college. Weird. It's very weird. He's good.
00:12:54
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So hopefully he enjoys this time at Oklahoma.
Wrestling Trivia and Game Introduction
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All right. well Beautiful place. I think think that's it. College-wise. Roughly. Right?
00:13:11
Speaker
You want to at some lineups? I think I'm ready to look at the U S open. We got to hit this. Yeah. We're gonna hit this open. Now, before we get into that, this episode is sponsored by by me for free.
00:13:24
Speaker
Uh, I made I made a little game for wrestling. It's like a little trivia game. If we're a listener listener, if you've ever played wordle before, where you, you have five letter word that you're trying to guess and you get feedback based on the word that you've guessed.
00:13:41
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Uh, It's basically like that, where you have ah your 330 NCAA qualifiers from this last NCAA tournament, and you're trying to guess each day there's a new wrestler, and you're trying to guess that wrestler.
00:13:51
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You guess a wrestler, and you get feedback. You get the year of eligibility they're at, the team, the conference, their win percentage, and their finish at NCAAs, which is like national qualifier, round of 16, round of 12, and then eighth through first.
00:14:06
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You get eight guesses to figure it out. And then, yeah, you can you know well track your daily stats and all that stuff. And I'm continuing to work on it. But if you want to check it out, it's at gablegame.com. And that's G-A-B-L-E-G-A-M-E.com.
00:14:21
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Go ahead and check it out or don't. It's totally up to you. And that's the end of our sponsored bit. The name is work in progress. Also working. Well, I guess work I bought the domain, so it's kind of committed.
00:14:36
Speaker
yeah hi name ah You said yes. yeah but Yeah, you said yes last week. so it's No, I liked it. I did. i just you were Earlier, you were like, I don't know if I'm in love with it.
00:14:47
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This is how I got to the name because I saw this idea from people doing it with other sports like two years ago. And the way that they were naming their versions was they were finding famous people in their sport whose names were similar to Wordle.
00:15:03
Speaker
And Wordle and Gable rhymed, so that was close enough for me. And everybody knows Gable. What's the first one called? but for What's the football game called? Weddle.
00:15:15
Speaker
Oh, Weddle. Yep. ah So, yeah. portal There you go. Could have been. What have been better?
00:15:26
Speaker
Bortles. Blake Bortles. Blake Bortles. Yeah. I knew that guy. U.S. Open time.
00:15:36
Speaker
You just want to start at the bottom weights? Are we going to go straight into like the seniors, are we going talk a little 17s and 20s too?
00:15:46
Speaker
I'm out of my depth on those, but I can try. How are you out of your debt? Because I don't know the names. No. Super well. That's crazy.
00:15:58
Speaker
I like... I'll recognize the names. Will I know them? Especially the U-17s. The U-17s, I... Who could I name right now from U-17s? Keegan Bassett.
00:16:10
Speaker
Keegan Bassett. Yep. Melvin Miller's too old. How about Sammy Sanchez, world champ? Sammy Sanchez.
00:16:19
Speaker
Uh...
00:16:24
Speaker
Gray Burnett. Is Jayden James in there still? Maybe? don't know. I don't know. Okay. There you go. There's your U17 preview. Paul Kenny, Sean Kenny.
00:16:37
Speaker
They're still both U17? Yes. Really? Pretty positive. They're probably too old, right? Bachman's?
00:16:48
Speaker
Yeah. Well, they're Pan Am. Or Panama.
00:16:54
Speaker
panama no No. Puerto Rico. There you go. My bad. B team.
00:17:01
Speaker
Well, I kind of. um We'll see. Except Freddie Bachman's is the best 113 pounder in the country. so Right. Ouch.
00:17:11
Speaker
Sick burn. You know who recruited him over there? Seabass. He's doing a good job. really He's really building a powerhouse over there. Him and Darian. something Yes, and Darian has a successor at the moment.
00:17:28
Speaker
Whenever he decides his time is up. Who? Jacob Moran. Ah. Go Hoosiers. Saturday Night Lights, if you're listening to this, down with Purdue.
00:17:40
Speaker
You guys talk? boy No, but I found out that he's a he's a Purdue fan, a stinking Boilermaker. So, got to get every every scratching that I can.
00:17:53
Speaker
We're boil destroyers. Yeah, we are boiler unmakers. yeah we want to We want icy water. Yep.
00:18:04
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Take us to the Arctic Sea.
00:18:08
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bring you Bring your team down.
00:18:13
Speaker
Tommy Ersland, more like Tommy Meisland. Yep. yeah Who's Tommy? Tommy. don't talk Don't talk smack on my boy. It's Tony, by the way. Tony. Don't talk smack on my boy, Tony Ersland.
00:18:25
Speaker
No, Tony's a great coach. Humboldt, Iowa. Straight up, right up the road here. Humboldt, right? Mm-hmm. Nice. Yep. Let's get into Let's get into it. What's his races? 100, 200, 100.
00:18:40
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what's his races one hundred two hundred four by one hundred
00:18:47
Speaker
He speedy? Long legs? I've never seen him run. Never, ever. and hackh ive i don't It's not like I watch him practice or anything. You don't? You got to move your legs faster. never eras I drop him off at practice. and well not since he was hey I him when he was little.
00:19:05
Speaker
you raise some Now he can outrace you, Ryan. no He's faster than you. lets pause yeah right now That belly is to weigh you down.
00:19:16
Speaker
Oh. ah you know I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Do you think it would weigh me down for real? I don't know. If he didn't have a track meet tomorrow, I would wake him up right now. Take a camera outside and raise him. ah Warm him up tomorrow for it. Let's get into it.
00:19:36
Speaker
Let's talk about the U.S. Open.
Weight Category Previews and Contenders
00:19:37
Speaker
I'm ready for it. Let's dive on in. I'm about to dive in it. Dive on in. 57 kilos. Notable contenders. Luke Lilladol, Brandon Courtney, Caleb Smith, Birk Jordan, Liam Cronin, Brendan McCrone, Sheldon Seymour.
00:19:57
Speaker
ive Dude, I thought I said Birk and then you corrected me to Birk. Birk Jordan, ah Daniel Dapp DeShazer, and Nico Provo.
00:20:07
Speaker
So we're just going to redo the episode we did the other day. so who Well, not necessarily because like we can actually talk about these rather than me just listing off names. about these I wouldn't say we... And then I would just say who I thought was going to win. Yeah, I did my list segment again where I just... Say we would list off names and I would wait until I heard one that I think would win and I would just say the name.
00:20:35
Speaker
For example, DAP. Daniel DeSazer, baby. Give me DAP. Now, really really thinking about this, it's DeShazer, it's Liladol, Courtney, Brandon Courtney. The Penn State guys, they yeah they've been added now?
00:20:52
Speaker
Yes. Well, at least to the list that I'm looking at. I'm not looking at the official entries. I think registration ended yesterday, I think. Okay. So... ah So, like, yeah, I think tier one is DeShazer, Lilladol, Courtney, maybe. And then you've got Cronin, Provo, Smith.
00:21:13
Speaker
That's kind of it. I got some other interesting guys in here at the bottom. Like who? but Dom Monoretto. Oh, why didn't they list him? Austin Assad. That's interesting.
00:21:27
Speaker
From Michigan? Yeah. It's acid acid Austin Musad.
00:21:39
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ah Yeah, I think well I think ah I think this Liladol and DeShazer and, you know, guys like Cronin can can get in there, too. But isn't Cronin Russell?
00:21:54
Speaker
Did he beat DeShazer?
00:21:58
Speaker
Maybe. Who? Cronin.
00:22:03
Speaker
I don't know if they've ever wrestled. I think... don't think they've ever wrestled. Let me do a quick Google search on this one.
00:22:13
Speaker
I mean, a lot of these guys have have wrestled each other, so...
00:22:17
Speaker
ah But the the veteran at that at this weight at this point is... DeShazer. They wrestled at 2023 Senior Nationals. It was a nine-minute match. ah Once I get through this ad, I can tell you who won. it a miss Rocket Morning Jazz.
00:22:38
Speaker
Liam Cronin wins this match 5-0.
00:22:44
Speaker
like i was I can't even be happy about remembering that.
00:22:50
Speaker
know I will be interested to see but you know what Sheldon Seymour is able to do. know what he's going to do. Shows nuts.
00:23:02
Speaker
Seymour nuts, Sammy nuts.
00:23:05
Speaker
All right. Let's move on to 61 kilos because this is this is pretty exciting weight ah with you know two high-level high schoolers.
00:23:18
Speaker
Marcus Blaze, Dayton Fix, Nashawn Garrett, Seth Gross, Austin DeSanto, Nick Buzakis, Ben DeVino, Nathan Tomasello, Nico Megalutis, and Jax Forrest, who bumped up from U-20s to WrestleSeniors.
00:23:32
Speaker
How do feel about that? Why isn't he doing both? Like Don Moretto. Is Minoretto doing both? Minoretto. Excuse me. I keep calling him Don Moretto like he's have the diesel. He's in the family.
00:23:46
Speaker
He's in the family. Might as well be. um He is doing both. He signed up for both. and Okay. I don't know. That seems like a lot to do, in my opinion.
00:23:57
Speaker
I would ah stick with one. But... I'm glad he's in the men's division or whatever, senior division. Senior, yeah. Wrestling with the men.
00:24:10
Speaker
Yeah. Why? Who's at the weight? What, you said Willie's mad about it? Yeah. Yeah, Willie doesn't like when guys bump up in age group. That's weird.
00:24:21
Speaker
he He prefers when when the age-level guys wrestle their age-level. Most of the time, I think, at least. He probably wants the team to be as good as possible. Yeah, I get it. Well, the U-20 team doesn't get decided this weekend.
00:24:36
Speaker
Right. Does U-17? Yes. U-20s? U-23s and both their teams get decided and June They've been doing that for a couple years now.
00:24:53
Speaker
Yep. For a couple of years? I took Sarbo out to U20 World Team Trials out in Geneva, Ohio. Yeah. I mean, like, like you know, Mesenbrink won. didn't take him there.
00:25:05
Speaker
I met him out there. Mesenbrink won the U.S. Open, and then he and Haynes wrestled for the spot at Trials. You know, was like three years ago or something like that.
00:25:16
Speaker
Well, so, but I mean...
00:25:20
Speaker
there's always It's always been the U.S. Open and then trials. Yeah. For U-20s. Yeah, but I'm talking about U-20s being grouped with seniors and then cadets being grouped with – or U-17s being grouped with U-23s. That's how it used to be.
00:25:39
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's right. He's right. He's right. Yes. That is how it used to be. Yes. Yeah. And then after COVID, they moved u seventeen s to Vegas.
00:25:50
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Because they, I think, wanted to decide their team a little bit sooner. Like a whole month. Hey, if anybody knows how Claw got the sponsorship for this tournament, drop a comment explaining that.
00:26:01
Speaker
Because i don't get it. How'd they do that? Because we want to do it.
00:26:09
Speaker
What's the payoff? The U.S. Open. and Presented by the barn session. Just having a big old barn. it sound bad our ass, too?
00:26:21
Speaker
yeah Apparently, there's a little bit of kerfuffle with where the U.S. opens at this year because it's not at the same place anymore. It's not at South Point? Mm-mm. Is it like some airport hangar or something like that?
00:26:34
Speaker
Whoa. Yeah, it's like not attached to a hotel and a restaurant venue and casino. can see how that would be kerfuffling. Right. Oh, and I think it's because...
00:26:46
Speaker
yeah Somebody did something on a roof last year, right?
00:26:54
Speaker
I feel like we talked about this. thing off the roof I think we talked about this. Did they lock, they locked, um what's his name up on the roof? Yeah. What's his name? Doug.
00:27:07
Speaker
Doug, thank you. They lost Doug. They lost Doug. Doug, Dougie, Dougie, Doug, Doug. Maybe. 61 kilos.
00:27:19
Speaker
Marcus Blaze is the favorite, isn't he? No. Who is? my favorite. I know. it Fix? Fix and Gross and Blaze, I feel like, are all like equal. Okay. Maybe Forest.
00:27:35
Speaker
Maybe throw Forest in there, too. Megalutis, interesting. Yeah. ah Forrest has a hard time with guys like DeSanto. I don't know if... I would like to see him get around a match like that. But I also feel like Forrest... I feel like like he would be a bad matchup for DeSanto because of his length. ah and I think DeSanto... No, they lost at non-Olympic trials, I believe.
00:27:56
Speaker
I thought he beat him. I don't think so. Oh. Pretty sure he didn't. I feel like Forrest would ah dismantle a guy like Nashawn Garrett.
00:28:08
Speaker
Maybe. Maybe. You know? Wish Bo Bassett was up at 65. That's what I think. a Is he? He's not wrestling seniors, is he? No, I wish he was. That's what I'm saying.
00:28:19
Speaker
Yeah, okay. Is he wrestling in your 20s? Yes. Okay. Did you not see that stacked weight class? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. That is right. Bassett, Vegas, Zepeda, Maddox, Shaw.
00:28:32
Speaker
There's few others I'm missing. Is he wrestling? And he just ran a marathon, dude. No wrestle? He just ran in the, was it in the Boston Marathon? Shut up. Did he really?
00:28:47
Speaker
don't know. He ran a marathon today. On Twitter. Today? Like a three and a half hour marathon.
00:28:54
Speaker
Ridiculous. That's not even the most ridiculous thing that happened today. Oh, If you were to run ah marathon on Monday and then go wrestle at the U.S. Open on what? Is it Thursday or Friday?
00:29:13
Speaker
That's crazy. would he You do think so? I don't think he's going to do that. Marathon instead of wrestle. Well, he's doing that for charity. opportunities yeah and he He was racing charity.
00:29:26
Speaker
Money. Things. Greater cause type stuff. bigger than yourself you know Reese I think yeah I think I don't know i don't know what to do with Seth Gross another guy who I like I don't know because Nick Buzakis could text Seth Gross it could happen could he not I don't know what to do about Seth Gross either he's not really training anywhere right But then he goes out there and he texts DeSanto.
00:29:55
Speaker
Yeah, that's true. And what is Nick Bozak is going to do? And also, is Ben DeVino a contender with these people? I don't know. Is Nathan Tomasello going to go out there and go 0-2 or is he going to make the finals? and I don't know. do like Ben DeVino.
00:30:08
Speaker
I like Ben DeVino at this weight. A lot. Ben, seeing how, i mean, he didn't, I feel like Blaze was kind of on a different level when they wrestled.
00:30:21
Speaker
When did they wrestle? Most recently. Last year at at yeah, for two out of three. i mean, he controlled the match in typical Marcus fashion without blowing the score up.
00:30:32
Speaker
Yeah. But also Ben DeVino has beaten Marcus Blaze before, so. I know. i wanted One of two losses. You you said this last episode. I did. Who was the other one, Sammy? Do you remember? I can't remember anymore.
00:30:44
Speaker
Oh, my goodness. Reese, who is Marcus's Blaze's other loss in high school? Marcus's Blaze. Is it a big win or a big big name? Big name.
00:30:54
Speaker
Big name. and but big Big name. Big name. Little person.
00:31:03
Speaker
Can help you, Sam? Nick Buzakis? No.
00:31:10
Speaker
It was a prep school kid, though. You're on the right track. Prep school kid? Dude, I have no idea. Mark Anthony McGowan? Nope. Committed to the Hawks.
00:31:21
Speaker
and Anything older? Leo DeLuca? Oh, Leo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Correct school, though. Mark Anthony McGowan. High school, excuse me. Prep school.
00:31:33
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Blair. yeah Give me date and fix to win this weight. Give me a date and fix, Vito. Did Mark Anthony McGowan beat Vince Robinson at Nationals, guys? I'd have to watch that again.
00:31:46
Speaker
Did he beat him? Did they screw him? ah it Look, here's the thing. If anybody got screwed at NCAAs, it was Hunter League against Lucas Bird.
00:31:58
Speaker
Shut up.
00:32:01
Speaker
All right? And if we want to go even deeper than that, let's go back last year. It was Ben Pazook against f freaking Makai Lewis. Oh, oh if we're gonna go if we're going back, we might as well go back to... Let's talk about Ian Miller, Brian Wilbuto.
00:32:16
Speaker
What the hell?
00:32:20
Speaker
let's go to Let's go to... Was it Josh Heil with the writing time or whatever? What about Jordan Oliver against Logan Steber? Logan Steber. Dude, I mean... Man.
00:32:32
Speaker
Criminals, those refs are.
00:32:35
Speaker
No accountability. All right, we can go back to the we can go back to the open now. Present. ah Hop out of your time machine, boys. Okay.
00:32:46
Speaker
Let me hop out of my time machine and pick Seth Bray to win this wave. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Maybe. ah keep picking i feel like I keep picking him, so I'm just going to keep picking him.
00:32:58
Speaker
Sammy, you're picking Dayton Ficks. Give me Ficks. Ficks might be ah the boring answer. but um I've literally, like anytime I've picked Ficks, it's always, like literally, I'm 0 for with picking Ficks.
00:33:11
Speaker
So I'm not going to pick him this time. and And I hope he does win, but I'm not going to pick him. I'm going pick Marcus Blaze.
00:33:19
Speaker
Gross Ficks Blaze. All right. That's good. I like that. ah Let's hop back in the time machine real quick. We had a conversation earlier this week. 2015-2025 NCAA champs. I want to talk about Tomasello Vince.
00:33:34
Speaker
Tell me about this. Help me. Help me recount the past. Tomasello who? What? Against Vince Robinson.
00:33:44
Speaker
What? 2015 versus champs. Oh. We're hashing this out. I just remember Tomasello that year just smashing dudes. I remember him smashing guys so bad, and he was smashing Dylan Peters and got pinned.
00:34:06
Speaker
And then he kind of let off the gas a little bit. i mean, he was still super dominant, but... hes dude He's just too short. He's too short for Vince Robertson. He will high C him at least three times.
00:34:19
Speaker
and that he would and and he du he If he gets in on the high C, he will finish. remember when I was in high school, I watched a video of of Tomasello at the OTC.
00:34:31
Speaker
And they're doing live goes, live situations where wrestler A is in on wrestler B's leg, head outside shot. And I can't remember. i think he was wrestling with like Ramos or Metcalf or some but something like that. Ramos. It was Ramos. And, and dude, boom just just like so quickly, just in on the high C and just pop up, up and down immediately. I'm like, that's so fast.
00:34:53
Speaker
I cannot believe that he just had that he doesn't just take down everybody, but I get it. It's hard to like actually get there, obviously. ah i don't know. I mean, yeah he was so good that year.
00:35:04
Speaker
do you think Do you think if like Luke Lilladol would win it this year, would you feel better about Luke beating Tomasello? Yes. No? I mean, I think Luke would have a better shot than Vince. No. Okay.
00:35:14
Speaker
sub Supplant. All right, let's we're we're taking out Brandon McCrone. Ripping him out of the bracket. And we're putting in... Tomasello. Who's winning? Or is Tomasello going to win this weight? Tomasello is sure winning that weight.
00:35:27
Speaker
Where was Brandon McCrown in the bracket again? 20-something seed, his bottom yeah quarter. Bro, there's nobody in that. i don't know. Luke Lillardall is of that caliber, I would say. random obviouslyey at the same I would say vintce Vince is the closest thing that could get to him just because of Vince's reattacks.
00:35:45
Speaker
Lillardall just opened himself up a little bit too much. he would you know It's kind of like the same ah problem Nico had against Tomasello that year.
00:35:56
Speaker
You know what i mean? Or not that year, the next year. You know what i mean? I'd have to, yeah, not really. I mean, you hit open and you you open yourself up too much against a guy like Nato, and he's just going to exploit those openings.
00:36:12
Speaker
I mean, i don't think Tomasello beat Nico not one time that year. Or, I mean, the other way around. I don't think Nico beat Tomasello not one time that year. don't Don't let Tomasello exploit your openings.
00:36:25
Speaker
He might. You'll do it. Okay. Well, I know where you guys stand. I just don't know. Listen, there's only one person in this bracket that can beat Nathan Tomasello, and he went 0-2, all right?
00:36:41
Speaker
And it was Joey Cruz, and it's because of the singlet he wears.
00:36:49
Speaker
Spencer that one time. He never beat Joey one. Not at Nationals. Not at Nationals, yeah.
00:36:58
Speaker
It's crazy. It's got to win over Spencer Lee.
00:37:02
Speaker
That's not what then got pain. Yeah. He was that good, bro. that That's like, see, this is what I'm remembering though, because I, what I've experienced the most is kind of like, like later stage Nathan Tomasello, which in his college career, yeah, he was good, but he was not, well, he won a title his freshman year and then it was like second and third after that or worse.
00:37:24
Speaker
Right. He was he was first, and third, third, third. Oh, you never made the finals after that again? Got pinned in this, got pinned and got pinned. Nope. Got pinned by Gilman, got beat by Corey Clark, got pinned by Spencer.
00:37:42
Speaker
yeah the clark match was crazy dude wait wait whoa wait clark literally yes yes that's why i said he can't beat a hawkeye at ncaa's that's why i said joey cruz is the only one that could do it because of the singlet he wears wow that's crazy and yes cory clark just cory clark literally would just choke nate choked nathan to a victory that year Yeah.
00:38:09
Speaker
Thomas Gilman, Corey Clark, Spencer Lee, those were his three losses in NCAAs, bro. Those are very good losses. ah No, not Gilman. I about said all NCAA champs, but not Gilman. One of the Olympic bronze.
00:38:26
Speaker
One of the best. Him and Fix are two of the best to never win a title.
00:38:32
Speaker
Yeah, Figgs and Gilman. Bo Bartlett? Devon. my
00:38:41
Speaker
Who? Ries? Devon. Mechich. Mechich. Mechich. Me
00:38:48
Speaker
yeah okay ah yes and then and then like senior level thomasmael has just not been you know but maybe that's just how hard the senior level is that's that's another thing that i maybe need to like conceptualize that too.
00:39:03
Speaker
It's freestyle. Okay, we spent enough time here at 61. Let's move on up to 65. The list is shorter here. We got Jesse Mendez, Joey McKenna, Bo Bartlett, Real Woods, Josh Coderhant, Aiden Valencia.
00:39:15
Speaker
Real quick, did you know that the first world team that Thomas Gilman won, he beat all of the NCAA champs from his three brackets that he was in to in the challenge bracket that year?
00:39:31
Speaker
In order? All three of the guys who beat him? yeah All three of the guys? No, not because not. That won it.
00:39:40
Speaker
so That won So that was Nathan Tomasello. That was Darian Cruz.
00:39:55
Speaker
Freaking heck, man. Dude, we just talked about it.
00:40:00
Speaker
We just talked about it Who beat him in the finals of the year he didn't win? Niko? No. Yes? Niko? He was only in three brackets because he was only because he behind Corey Clark his freshman year.
00:40:12
Speaker
yeah That's crazy. Yeah. Corey took fourth, I believe, that year.
00:40:19
Speaker
Pretty sure he got beat by Delgado in the quarters. It's crazy. I think he was at 25. Niko Megalutis for third and fourth. No kidding.
00:40:31
Speaker
Dude, those brackets were crazy, dude. Crazy. Crazy. Okay. Compared to like this year, I don't know. Like 125 back then compared to 125, 133 back then compared to like this year is like feels different.
00:40:46
Speaker
Much different. Yeah. Zeke Moisey also made the finals.
00:40:53
Speaker
Yeah, but he beat Nashawn Garrett. and kar got so headers He He beat some hitters, dude. um um And then Nashawn Garrett bumped up and won a national title the next year. It dominated his way to the national title the next year. the next was' is the next year?
00:41:08
Speaker
Yes. yeah So, okay. Oh, okay. So the way it went, he he took like – he placed his freshman year, lost to Delgado his sophomore year, lost to – His junior year. and Fifth. Fifth his junior year.
00:41:20
Speaker
I believe he was fifth, fifth, something fifth, first. What was he? No, he was fifth, second, fifth. Was he fourth? Something second, something first. That's what I know. Fourth.
00:41:33
Speaker
He took fourth his freshman year. i Okay. like Fourth, second, fifth, first. That's what it was.
00:41:39
Speaker
Nice. Back to the U.S. Open, 65 kilos. It is a Buckeye affair at the top of the bracket. Well, not the top of the bracket, but the the top of the contenders.
00:41:51
Speaker
McKenna and Mendez, along with Bartlett and Real Woods, Coderhant and Valencia. Where's Brock? Brock Hardy? Yeah, when's the last time he wrestled freestyle?
00:42:05
Speaker
Well, he made a U23 world team last year. Oh. So last year, think, uh, I think he's aged out of that. Right. twenty four 24.
00:42:15
Speaker
Yeah. He's gotta be, he's gotta be. So, right. Answer my effing question. Where is he? say Um, it's just having fun wrestling, dude. I don't know. Look, man, i
00:42:30
Speaker
I'm not going to tell you, I'm not going to say who, and we can talk about it later. I've been trying to get a guest for us from Nebraska And they're a little busy right now. I get it It's the week of the U S open, but we'll get them.
00:42:42
Speaker
All right. not going to you who, but it rhymes with Snye and brighter.
00:42:49
Speaker
We'll see if it happens.
00:42:52
Speaker
Uh, and you know what, at that point we'll ask, well, Hey, where's, where's the Mormon? Where's my money?
00:43:05
Speaker
Just like that, too. That's exactly how we're going to ask. Where's my bald-headed friend?
00:43:14
Speaker
ah I don't know, dude. to be like Rob? Rob? Rob? No. You know who. Christian Lance? No.
00:43:25
Speaker
Lance?
00:43:29
Speaker
get Is it Joey McKenna's year to make a world team? No. Oh, deep and down at Oklahoma? It's Jesse Mendez. Joey McKenna.
00:43:42
Speaker
Jesse Mendez. yeah He's got the last win over Jesse. Doesn't matter. You know who's an interesting ka character, an interesting cat at freestyle is Bo Bartlett. Interesting caricature.
00:43:55
Speaker
Especially when he doesn't have to deal with Andrew Alirez. Where's Nicholas Lee at? Coaching, kind of hanging out. He said he would still compete. He said he'd probably still compete, but maybe he don't wrestle this year.
00:44:09
Speaker
Maybe he don't want to wrestle. I don't know. 65 is a little cleared out. Aiden Valencia interesting. Real Woods is interesting. He's training out at Cliff Keen and but up in Michigan. Maybe he's able to do something, but it's outside of Mendez McKenna. this is that's i mean That's all I'm seeing.
00:44:25
Speaker
Did you put Bartlett yeah yeah i mean in that top three or that top two? I don't know, because he did beat Nick Lee, not really, but he basically beat Nick Lee a couple years ago.
00:44:39
Speaker
yeah He's pretty good. went over McKenna, too. Really? their last The last time they wrestled, he beat McKenna. Okay. I mean, he's good, but does he put the tournament together? I don't know.
00:44:51
Speaker
It remains to be seen.
00:44:55
Speaker
Yeah, that's ah that's a good one. 70 kilos. James Green. are you picking, Timmy? Me? Ooh. Yeah. Who are you picking? Give me McKenna. Give me McKenna.
00:45:06
Speaker
ah he He gets one in. He gets one in for sure. Bad move. And again, this is only to get to Final X, and then you have World Team Trials, and then you have Final X. So there's a lot to go on before we actually see who makes the World Team.
00:45:20
Speaker
That'd be interesting. um don't think it'll happen, but it would be interesting.
00:45:27
Speaker
70 kilos. James Green... Yanni Diakamahalis, Alec Pantaleo, Will Luan, Bryce Andonian, Yaya Thomas, Brayton Lee, go Hoosiers, Zach Arrington, Doug Zapf.
00:45:40
Speaker
John. I'm picking John. Johnny. yeah Johnny Tough. I don't think the people, the people, the people don't know. The people don't know, but they'll find out.
00:45:52
Speaker
about kids The kid's a different animal and the same beast up at 70 kilos. Do it for Johnny. Do it for Johnny. What is that from? Outsiders.
00:46:04
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Do it for Johnny. Ponyboy? I don't believe you've actually ever seen the movie. I have. We watched it in the theater at Lexington Trails Middle School.
00:46:16
Speaker
Oh, okay. That's a cool. That's interesting. We read the book. didn't we watch it? We read the book. Yeah, the auditorium. We read the book, and then we watched the movie. We watched the movie, but we didn't watch it in the auditorium.
00:46:29
Speaker
I didn't watch the movie. What's up with that? How did you two watch it, yet I didn't? Technical difficulties, but we are back.
00:46:41
Speaker
Uh... Yeah, I mean, Yanni Diakamahalis should be the favorite here. Will Luan's, or not Will Luan, Bryce Andonian is an interesting ah element. Will Luan is not interesting.
00:46:54
Speaker
Didn't he just beat somebody recently? James? Beat James Green? No, he he won an international bracket, I think, but I don't think he beat James Green. No, he beat somebody. Will Luan isn't an interesting wrestler.
00:47:07
Speaker
That's what you're I'm telling you. at the very least, he's interesting. Come on.
00:47:15
Speaker
Come on. Did Willowman beat James Green? I don't think so. Do you want me to figure this out? Answer the question. is I don't know how I'm supposed to figure this out.
00:47:26
Speaker
I think it happened. Google it. What are we talking about? ah The non-Olympic world team trials? At a ranking series, I think. Okay, hang on. I'm pulling up his United World Wrestling ah thing. 2025, second ranking series.
00:47:41
Speaker
He beat James Green. oh Oh! Oh, yeah. You're right, Ryan. Say it. i No, no, no, no. No, there was some nonsense that happened in this match. Say it.
00:47:53
Speaker
rees you Will you say Reese? You were right, Ryan. You know what's also cool? I just asked Google that question and Google answered it.
00:48:04
Speaker
Nice. You mean Google's AI? Google's AI.
00:48:10
Speaker
I love AI. Okay. I love our AI overlords. Will Luan can beat...
00:48:21
Speaker
oh
00:48:24
Speaker
I have chat GPT right here in my pocket now. That was a baby. That's what I call it, chat GPT.
00:48:35
Speaker
ah
00:48:38
Speaker
Will Luan can beat James Green. ah James Green can beat Alec Pantaleo. Yanni Diakamahalos can beat all of them. She wants to go upstairs so bad. ah She's taking a nap.
00:48:49
Speaker
She's sleeping. and she is She looks like you know her eyes are open. literally staring at me right now like, please let me go upstairs. just She's coming over. Now she knows I'm talking about her. She's like, you're going to let me up, right?
00:49:02
Speaker
Let me out of here. me Final thoughts on 70 kilos. yeah Yanni versus James Green. Yanni all day. okay Or Will Luan versus Yanni.
00:49:17
Speaker
and Pantaleo?
00:49:22
Speaker
No? Brayton Lee? I would love it. I would love to see Pantaleo get to the finals at least. Okay. Is Brayton Lee in this bracket? Yes, he is. I said it, and then I said go Hoosiers, but that's okay. 74 kilos. David Carr, Mitchell Mezenbrink, Jarrett J. Hughes, Quincy Monday, ah Peyton Hall, Terrell Bearclaw, and Ed Scott.
00:49:44
Speaker
Dude, I remember you telling me Jarrett J. Hughes is in this weight, was like, he's that big now? Geez. He took third at this weight at trials. I just forget that he's this big now. I'm 57 in college.
00:49:58
Speaker
ah no
00:50:01
Speaker
He's big now. He's always like, yeah, I guess i guess so. ah He has, I'd say three people. I say there's there's two definitive tiers here.
00:50:15
Speaker
You've got David Carr, Mitchell Mesenbrink, Quincy Monday. and I don't even know if I'd put Quincy in there. I don't know. And then you've got everybody else. Why would you not put Quincy Monday in there? Because Mesenbrink teched Quincy at trials.
00:50:26
Speaker
Okay, fair enough. Yep. And then David Carr beat Daiichi Takatani. Uh, so da I think it's David Carr and Mitchell Mezenbrink.
00:50:40
Speaker
And then whoever wins that the out of that is, is your guy. Uh, but it's crazy because we're onto the new guard and it's, I don't know, kind of cool. Right.
00:50:52
Speaker
Exciting? Until Jordan Burroughs shows up. If Jordan Burroughs shows back up at 74 kilos, I don't know what I'll do. I'll have to figure out something to do.
00:51:04
Speaker
He'll be there at least by 2028. Dude, how old is he going to be in 2028? Doesn't matter. He's making the team and in LA and he's winning a gold, another Olympic gold, and then he's retiring.
00:51:18
Speaker
don't know. He'll be like 39. No, he might be 40. He's 36 right now. July 8th, 1988. He will be 40.
00:51:30
Speaker
Nice. He'll be 40 years old wrestling at at his third Olympics in five Olympics. Olympic trial cycles. Cool. rick Ridiculous.
00:51:45
Speaker
It's pretty cool. It's pretty boss. I mean, I guess... It'd cool did, though. He probably could beat Kar and Mezenbrink. He probably could beat them. I mean, he could for sure. i mean, yeah, he did it not even a year ago. he beat Mezenbrink a ago.
00:51:58
Speaker
His biggest issue would be making weight.
00:52:03
Speaker
He can do it. It's not easy, though. why did you Reese's name... All right, people, we can name ourselves. Reese's first name for the first recording was Senpai.
00:52:15
Speaker
And now it's Taicho. Taicho. Taicho. What is Taicho? Look it up, dude. I'm regretting even saying it now. Can i change my name?
00:52:28
Speaker
Don't. Don't do that right now. Come on. All right, fine. Okay, thank you.
00:52:35
Speaker
I... Carmes and Brink, but I'm going to go with Car. Give me David Car. Give me David Car Jr. Quincy Monday.
00:52:49
Speaker
Dude, tell you what though. Give me David Carr. whoever Whoever makes the world team for us, they have a tall task at Worlds. You have some monsters at this weight.
00:53:03
Speaker
Jamalov has never beaten an American. ah You have... He beat Bergy. Oops. Jamalov has never beaten a world team member. He beat Bergy at U23 Worlds.
00:53:15
Speaker
That doesn't count. That's an age-level world championship. Okay. what is he Has he has he wrestled that he wrestled at two world-level events?
00:53:27
Speaker
The Olympics, he won the bracket that Dake took third in, and then the World Cup during COVID that we didn't attend. That we didn't attend. He didn't beat Dake. He pinned the guy that beat Dake.
00:53:38
Speaker
pin Pinned him. Pinned him. I'm not even super worried. I'm not super worried about Jamalov. Charmin Villejev, Zarebek Sinikov. I'm only saying that because that one dude on Twitter, he was trolling us.
00:53:52
Speaker
He was trolling America. So you're saying Zidakov is going to get the spot over Zemelov? They're not the same country. Oh, that's right. Zemelov is in Uzbekistan now. Yep. So have Valiyev, Albania.
00:54:04
Speaker
Zemelov, Uzbekistan. Zidakov, Russia, UWW, whatever it is. And then whoever is going to wrestle for Iran. Ain.
00:54:15
Speaker
And... aint And possibly Daichi Takatani or somebody tougher than him. Or somebody better. Dude, this is going to be a great way to Worlds.
00:54:28
Speaker
And we've got... What's Japan's team going to look like? I mean, it might not be their full team because they kind of do the same thing that Russia does where it's like... hate that. Bring me your meat.
00:54:41
Speaker
No, we are sending out fresh meat, dude. This is the first time where we don't, we're not a powerhouse at the weight. What do Dake and Burroughs held this weight down from 2011 until now.
00:54:55
Speaker
80 years. 100 years of Burroughs and Dake. 100 years. Crazy. And no longer. Dake is up at 86 kilos and Jordan Burroughs is raising a family of like 10 or however many kids he has now.
00:55:11
Speaker
Speaking of which. Head coach for Cornell, Mike Gray, he just had his fourth child. Do you know the name of the child?
00:55:20
Speaker
They announced it on Instagram. Mike Jr. Hayes Hennessy Gray. Cool. Little Henny. Little Henny. H-A-Y-E-S? Yes.
00:55:33
Speaker
yes I was thinking H-A-Z-E. H-A-Z-E. H-A-Z-E. I was thinking H-A-Z-E. was thinking H-A-Z-E. H-A-Z-E.
00:55:44
Speaker
Like H-A-Z-E. Like H-A-Z-E. Like H-A-Z-E. Yeah. H-A-Z-E. All-American town. Cool name. Cool name. Pretty cool. Jealous. Jealous. Jealous. I didn't think of it.
00:55:57
Speaker
But that's okay. can have that name now. Never that I can't. I can't because Mike Whatever cool name you think of, I'll steal it anyway, Sammy. I already told Reese the three names that I have for girls.
00:56:08
Speaker
yeah and i And I know you're not going to steal the name that I have for a boy because you probably don't think it's that cool. So is it Sammy jr? Cause I already thought of that one and I think I'm going to do it now. I don't think, i don't think you can, you can't do that.
00:56:20
Speaker
I can't name my kid, Samuel Brett Coakley jr. No, where's the senior a middle name. You're right there. He's his uncle.
00:56:30
Speaker
It really confuse people. I think it would be hilarious. I'm going to have a Samuel Brett Coakley Jr. and a Reese Aaron Coakley Jr. You're going to have two more kids? But no Ryan Chance Coakley Jr. You're going to have two more kids? At least?
00:56:47
Speaker
The great thing about Sammy is is it could be a boy or a girl.
00:56:52
Speaker
Not Reese though? Not if you spell my name correctly. Then I'll just be a freak of nature.
00:57:01
Speaker
Some abomination. Reese, do you want me to name my daughter after you? I don't care. Yes. Darren already. Darren already named his daughter after me.
00:57:14
Speaker
Who? Aaron, who? Darren. Darren Feist. Feisty Darren. was flattered. I was honored. let's Let's get. Like he said it straight out. He's like, I named her after you, Reese.
00:57:28
Speaker
No, he's never openly... He it with his eyes. But he said, I named her Reese because I really liked your name. Yeah, that's what he said. no he he actually said, I don't know.
00:57:44
Speaker
Wink, wink.
00:57:48
Speaker
Darren and David. The best of the fights. 79 kilos. seventy nine kilos
00:57:56
Speaker
DJ Hamity, David McFadden, Carson Hartzler, Evan Wick, Kennedy Monday.
00:58:05
Speaker
ah Give me DJ McFadden.
00:58:14
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know what to think about this weight at all. Why isn't Rocco Welsh? Where's Rocco? Keegan O'Toole had ACL surgery. i where's that's time' savinging I know, I know. Where's Rocco Welsh? Where's Burrows? Go at this weight.
00:58:29
Speaker
There's nobody, right? Nobody like proven at least. I'm going to give McFadden his flowers. McFadden? McFadden's good. Dude.
00:58:41
Speaker
um thinking about that one match where he beat, was it Vincenzo? He beat Vincenzo multiple times.
00:58:48
Speaker
And he's training at Cornell. Give me Dave McFadden. Give me Alex Derringer. He's putting the shoes back on. He's not. I would not respect that move. He's got... When you take the shoes off, you take the shoes off. No more putting shoes back on.
00:59:02
Speaker
No more of that. Why? i speaking Speaking taking the shoes off, did you see Gwizdowski's Instagram post? That was awesome. It just said signing off.
00:59:14
Speaker
Signing off and then like a little, an art an artful graphic of shoes hanging from a wire. Wrestling shoes. but Jeff Riccio made it. That's his like ah like his retirement thing?
00:59:26
Speaker
Yeah, which knew he was retired. Yeah, I mean, I thought he already announced it a while ago, but... i don't think so. think this is his official announcement. It's official now.
00:59:37
Speaker
he's a He's a businessman. Doing business stuff. I don't know what business stuff, but he's a businessman. I hated that. I hated that Gilman called the whole ritual of us taking our shoes off. I hated that he called it corny.
00:59:51
Speaker
Like, up yours. and that's that's such a that's like That's totally right up Gilman's alley, yeah. yeah But why call it corny? Why not keep that to yourself? Just say it's not for me. ah Because he so he speaks what I'm saying.
01:00:04
Speaker
But that's what I'm saying. He's a cornball himself. Why are you going to call something else that other people do corny? Because it's like what a classic cornball would do. Yeah.
01:00:15
Speaker
Cornball going to cornball, Ryan.
01:00:19
Speaker
just It irritated me because it felt like it was like an it wasn't but it felt like it was an attack to Alex Derringer. oh No. I will not accept that.
01:00:31
Speaker
No. I mean, here's the thing. here's the thing ah Why did even bring it up? Well, they were talking about, are you retired? like You haven't taken your shoes off the mat. like Are you ever going to do that? He's like, first off, that shit's corny.
01:00:44
Speaker
yes Don't ask me questions. He did pretty much say, he's like, I would never do that because I think that that is corny as hell. Yeah, I... ah You know, I think I generally, with with Thomas Gilman's... The facial expression he made, too, was like, I'm too good to do that. It's too corny. That was the facial expression.
01:01:07
Speaker
I was just like, what? I... Generally, with Thomas Gilman's kind of hot takes, sometimes, or not sometimes, i don't know. I think most of the time i I come around to them. I'm like, you know what?
01:01:19
Speaker
Yeah. This one, though? I don't know. I don't care. I mean, I don't care one way or the other if if a wrestler leaves their shoes on the mat. it It really depends on the moment.
01:01:30
Speaker
Do you find it funny, though? If Jordan Burroughs went out and won an Olympic gold medal in 2028 and then in LA left his shoes on the mat, um I'm probably shedding a tear or seven, at seven. I don't know.
01:01:44
Speaker
You know, when, when, when Lopez did it, I was like, this is, this is fricking awesome. I'm going to tweet. This is super corny. And then put it in quotes and then dash Thomas Gilman. That's what I'm going to put.
01:01:56
Speaker
ta Ryan, he's ruthless on Twitter. I wouldn't. Yeah. tax on my
01:02:02
Speaker
Okay. Okay. So, so 79 kilos, David McFadden. And then we can get him on the podcast. Come get real personal too. I don't care.
01:02:14
Speaker
I'm out of this one. My hands are my hands are clean. You better come back me up, Sammy, or I'm going to smack you. I'm going to be like, Thomas, I remember watching you wrestle at Gardner Edgerton Invitational. You lost.
01:02:30
Speaker
I never lost at that tournament. That's literally what I would say. Remember when you got beat the Gardner Edgerton tournament? Can't relate. Never lost. There a lot. you Well, you had multiple tournaments where you were undefeated.
01:02:43
Speaker
No, just two. I thought you won all of them. In high school, just two. You didn't always win Gardner or Garden City? No, we didn't even go to Garden City my junior year. Johnson County Classic.
01:02:57
Speaker
Nope, took second my freshman year. now and regionals, you didn't win all of them either, even though you were 49ers champ. Who does that? who Who does that? No, not not me. Couldn't be me. 86 kilos.
01:03:11
Speaker
You did. 86 kilos. This is this is one we actually probably should spend some time on.
Kyle Dake vs. Zahid Valencia Debate
01:03:18
Speaker
Kyle Diggs, Zahid Valencia, Parker Keckisen, Chance Marsteller, Dustin Plott, Rocco Welsh. Oh, there's Rocco.
01:03:24
Speaker
Braden Thompson. Rocco, drop down to 79 kilos. he's He's an 84 pounder. Whatever. Drop down to 79 kilos. 79 is like point something Yeah, it's ones basically 174.
01:03:38
Speaker
We get to see big keck. 173.8. We get to see the keck in the field with Valencia and the dake. That's exciting. Carter Stracci?
01:03:51
Speaker
He's qualified for the trials. But what weight is he going? Probably 86.
01:03:58
Speaker
Not 79. Good. We'll see. He probably hasn't decided. Depends on the whole shaft situation. Shaft? Depends on the shaft. Did shaft get too big?
01:04:09
Speaker
don't Man, seems to... ah you think that tweet cost him a Hodge trophy? No. Maybe. That was a different season, so it doesn't count. Yeah.
01:04:21
Speaker
Outs. You know.
01:04:26
Speaker
Okay, so I said, all right, here's here's here's the timeline, right? The field prior to, I think, like two days ago or whatever, was Valencia. don't even know if Keckisen was in there.
01:04:36
Speaker
But Valencia, Keckisen, Marsteller, Plott, Welsh, and Thompson. And I'm looking at this and I'm thinking to myself, Valencia with like a strong, strong favorite.
01:04:49
Speaker
Probably...
01:04:52
Speaker
Probably wins most of his matches by like four or more points. Like Zahid Valencia is for sure winning this tournament and is probably going to be on the world team. Kyle Dake enters the conversation and I say is that I feel bad for Zahid Valencia. His chances of making a world team went from like pretty good to ah pretty darn tough.
01:05:15
Speaker
And Ryan says strongly disagree.
01:05:21
Speaker
That's right.
01:05:24
Speaker
Do you need me to say it again, Sammy? I want you to explain how his chances from making a world team are not significantly diminished by Kyle Dake being around.
01:05:38
Speaker
um Significantly just seems strong. Zahid's really good. What percentage chance did you give Zahid Valencia of making the world team before Kyle Dake was at the weight? 95?
01:05:51
Speaker
ninety five 98, 90 percent. 90 percent chance. Now I'll give him like an 88 percent chance. What?
01:06:03
Speaker
Dude. All right. 80. We'll cut it down to 80 percent.
01:06:08
Speaker
I mean, I i agree with you. I think Zahid's really good, man. I agree with you. I think Zahid's great. Zahid's super good. I think Zahid is great. And i think he's I think the fact that they're both wrestling at 86 kilos is huge for Zahid.
01:06:21
Speaker
Physically. Literally huge. But Kyle Dake, dude, go back and watch some of his matches at 86 kilos. Yeah, Zahid is better than anyone. Zahid is better than anyone he wrestled at that tournament, including Jaden Cox.
01:06:36
Speaker
David Taylor. And David, yes, that David Taylor, that version of David Taylor, yes. This version of Zahid is better than anyone he wrestled at the ah the Olympic team trials in 2016, including Jaden Cox.
01:06:53
Speaker
Really? Yes. You think he's that good? Yes.
01:06:59
Speaker
He's good, dude. just He's just had he's had guys like Aaron Brooks and and David Taylor in front of him. Man. Jordan Burroughs and Caldick. Well, yeah. Not at 86. I'm talking about strictly 86 kilograms.
01:07:14
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:07:20
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, i think at Oklahoma State, things are going right for him. I think his gas tank issues that we've seen him have in the past are not going to be a factor anymore. Am I...
01:07:33
Speaker
expecting to see a much more lively kyle dake up at 86 kilos yes and live dake is he gonna be yeah is that what you're saying leith live is it live or leith i'm pretty sure it's live ryan how do you how do you say it I've only read it in books. um I'm actually being serious about that. thought you saying live, to be honest with you.
01:08:03
Speaker
It looks like it's... reach There's a delay with your sound in your mouth. It's totally fine. It's going to be okay. It froze up on me earlier when I went to WrestleStat.
01:08:16
Speaker
ah stay Stay off WrestleStat. um There you have it. What was that? What was that? Oh, life.
01:08:28
Speaker
Okay, I'm wrong. Anyway.
01:08:32
Speaker
Okay, what about Keck Eisen? What about Marsteller? Rocco Welsh? How do you see these guys? Dude, I like Parker Keck Eisen. I think Parker Keck Eisen can beat Kyle Dake.
01:08:44
Speaker
What? No. I think he can. No. Okay, if they wrestle... If they wrestle 50 times, Keck Eisen will win one of those matches. I think he could beat him at this tournament. I think you guys are grossly underestimating Parker Keck Eisen's ability.
01:09:02
Speaker
I just think if he wrestled Zahid, he'd get smoked. Oh, yeah i' I'm not saying that there's not a style matchup issue. um I agree with you. That's why I said I think Parker could beat Kyle Dake.
01:09:16
Speaker
I don't think so. I didn't say. I don't think i think he could win it. think if have trouble that much trouble with a guy like McAnally, I don't know. Dude, McAnally is a beast.
01:09:27
Speaker
I think McAnally would do some damage at this weight. and mcauy I went back, and I think that this doesn't necessarily suggest what's going to happen in this bracket. But after Takatani scored like 22 points or whatever on Kyle Dake, I went back and I looked at how many matches did I have to total up that Kyle Dake wrestled against U.S. opponents for me to get 22 points or more scored in total against Dake.
01:09:54
Speaker
And I had to go back like, I think like six or seven years or something like that. Total of all of those matches. so you had it Seriously? Yes. Years. Dake does not get... years Well, yeah just just Americans. Just against Americans. I know. That's crazy that's still crazy.
01:10:11
Speaker
Well, yeah I mean, there were some years where he only wrestled two matches. Oh, okay. Against Americans, right? Because he only you wrestled at final X, and that So I think I went back to like i think i went back to the 2016 trials.
01:10:22
Speaker
Thank you. I appreciate that context, Sammy. Yep. Yes. ah it's He's extraordinarily proficient at preventing...
01:10:33
Speaker
ah American wrestlers from scoring on him. Now, is that going to hold in his later age up at a weight class where he's probably not full-sized 86 kilos? I'd be very surprised if he is.
01:10:44
Speaker
I'm so excited to see the return of 86 kilo, Dake. it's i am like Because I think it is going to be a more lively guy, but... something Lively or lifely?
01:10:56
Speaker
Live.
01:11:00
Speaker
ah I just, I don't know. I'm excited about it. And Dake's my pick, for sure.
01:11:08
Speaker
Zahid. Dake is your pick? Dake is my pick.
01:11:13
Speaker
Give me Zahid. Yeah, I think Zahid's the pick. But Dake, I'm picking Dake here.
01:11:21
Speaker
Zahid. Now, if you give me a series, all right, do you think as a series favors Zahid or Dake? Zahid. Zahid. Do you think if they wrestle each other more that the match gets closer? Or do you think Zahid finds a way to widen it?
01:11:38
Speaker
No. I think it's probably closer. Like most matches. Most in general. Yeah. Deku literally only gets blown out the first time you wrestle him. And then he makes it tighter pretty much.
01:11:49
Speaker
Other than Daiichi Chokitani, like most of the time, the first time you wrestle Dake, if you beat him, you might score a bunch of points on I think about that Russian at 79 kilograms the first year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah and then he I would also include i would and also include Burroughs in that list of people who... Yeah, that's a little bit different, but yes.
01:12:08
Speaker
Yeah. ah Okay, I get you. I hear what you're saying. I hear you.
Weight Class Strategies and Changes
01:12:16
Speaker
92 kilos. Trent Heidly, Aiden Sinclair, Eric Schultz, Mike Machiavelli, Cam Caffey, Seth Shoemake. Give me Trent Heidly.
01:12:28
Speaker
and excited about that one. tre Hell yeah. you know what the problem is?
01:12:35
Speaker
Brooks. What about him? Is he not going to wrestling at trials? He's 97, bro. He's bumped all the way up to 97? Certainly. He's nerd. I think he's at the open.
01:12:47
Speaker
He's not in my list of people. Snyder is at the open. But he is that they were going to be wrestling 97 this year. They were both going to be wrestling 97 this year. Okay.
01:12:58
Speaker
You know what that means? We get Snyder Brooks. Well, that also means we're going to get Snyder moving down to Stilly. No way. I think Brooks is just pushing people out.
01:13:13
Speaker
Just saying, get out of here. I don't know. It's a guess. I don't. Your faith is not strong enough. You know what? you know would actually What if? What if? What if? Curving ball here.
01:13:24
Speaker
Aaron Brooks goes down to s Stillwater.
01:13:28
Speaker
I don't know. I don't think he would. I would. I would highly doubt that one. That'd be funny. I would. i would I would highly doubt that one based on faith alone.
01:13:40
Speaker
Literally. I'm being dumping. So serious with that. ah you serial what i What I would love is if Snyder moved back to Ohio State and started lifting started lifting with Coach Meyer's gut check again and just got really, really strong and wrestled like 2015 Kyle Snyder again.
01:14:00
Speaker
I would love that.
01:14:02
Speaker
There's nothing wrong with Ohio. Except the snow and the rain.
01:14:09
Speaker
I really like Drew Carey and I love to see the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Yes! All right. ah Yeah, Kyle Snarty, you got to move back to Ohio.
01:14:21
Speaker
Back to 92 kilos. kyle Come back to Texas. There's 92 kilos. Yeah, they're really, I mean, Sinclair, Schultz, Machiavelli, Caffey, Shumate. None of these guys are going to compete with Trent I have affectionately nicknamed him now Trent Hoppin-Hydley due to his new go-behind tactic in freestyle.
01:14:48
Speaker
no I like it. He is hopping. Hopping mad. Okay. 97 kilos. Kyle Snyder, J.I. L.O., Gary Traub, Gavin Hoffman, Masuma Indeen.
01:15:01
Speaker
Gas tank, Gary. Thank you. Yes, give me gas tank, Gary. Kyle Snyder.
01:15:09
Speaker
No. Gaston Carey. Gaston Carey.
01:15:20
Speaker
I think he makes the finals.
01:15:23
Speaker
Right? Obviously. He's winning it. No? No. Who's making the finals? tweet I mean, Aiello's tough, and we'll see about Ndeen. Mike Mock? Mock is at the weight below.
01:15:34
Speaker
My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad.
01:15:38
Speaker
I'm sorry. ah Too far, Rhys. Too far. I apologize. ah There goes that. There goes that Ohno interview.
01:15:57
Speaker
ah you think No, that would be that would be terrible. It would be a terrible interview. It would be terrible interview. ah i was i was intimidating I was impersonating Chinese people anyway. You were intimidating Chinese people. Good job, Ryan.
01:16:11
Speaker
With the tariffs and everything going on, you think that's ah the best way to do this? Yeah. My favorite word. Tariffs.
01:16:22
Speaker
Okay. 400% tariffs unchained ah
01:16:28
Speaker
125 kilos. I guess we're just going to move on from 97. I've lost you guys. Wyatt Henderson, Hayden Zilmer, Nick Feldman, Jordan Wood, Christian Lance, Trent Hilger.
01:16:39
Speaker
It is time for Wyatt Henderson to assume his role as top dog. We do not see... I mean, his biggest contender is probably going to be Zilmer.
01:16:54
Speaker
Where is Mason Perez? I think he's trying to be an NFL player.
Women's Wrestling Highlights
01:16:59
Speaker
I know. We had this conversation. For real? yeah Yeah. I think so. You weren't there. I think he's trying to play for the Bengals.
01:17:10
Speaker
Is it the Bengals or the Lions? I think it's the Bengals. Okay. This is strictly off of a tweet from Amin. Malik. Where's Gable?
01:17:23
Speaker
Gable, I don't think he's going to wrestle. He's also playing football. So here's the thing. Paris and Gable... Paris and Gable can both ah show up at trials.
01:17:36
Speaker
Maybe. ah So, you know, this isn't the definitive list of guys that we're going to see it this way. But Hendrickson is for sure top dog. Zilmer, I would put him second.
01:17:47
Speaker
And then Wood or maybe Feldman. Maybe Lance. i don't know. Wood, more like wooden.
01:18:00
Speaker
Sick burn, sick burn. Yes. Have you watched that before? hit Bro. Oh, yeah.
01:18:11
Speaker
Oh, yes. and Ryan, put that phone down. Sorry.
01:18:16
Speaker
Now, on ah the women's side of things. If Tommy Boy's in it, I've seen the SNL. yeah Mike Myers is so funny in that. Mike Myers is also hilarious in this one. Spot on.
01:18:29
Speaker
He's just the king.
01:18:33
Speaker
i don't know about him. done? Who does it better? i'm talking about impressions. Impressions? who Who does better impressions?
01:18:43
Speaker
That's a thinker. um He might be up there. Robin, ah Robin Deb was pretty good.
01:18:52
Speaker
Yeah.
01:18:55
Speaker
But it was he Mike Myers level. Did he play multiple characters in a movie ever?
01:19:04
Speaker
don't know. I have to look at his discography. He might've. Yeah, he might've. All right. Hey, On the women's side of things, i want to point out, for at 68 kilos, we have Kennedy Blades, and at 72 kilos is Amit Elor, and then 76 kilos.
01:19:28
Speaker
And 76 kilos is going to be Kylie Welker or Yelena McCoy. ah um Why is Kennedy Blades all the way down at 68? That feels too small for her. um don't know.
01:19:39
Speaker
It does. is um And Amit is up at 72? Yep. Would she wrestle at Olympics? 68, right? Is that what it was?
01:19:50
Speaker
Yeah, because it's 68 and 76. Oh, yeah. Amit can't make 68 anymore. That's why I'm surprised to see Kennedy going down. Yeah.
01:20:02
Speaker
Because she seems bigger than Amit. That's what I would think. Yeah.
01:20:09
Speaker
65 kilos. I would expect to see Jennifer Page come out of this, but also, I mean, you Lairmendi, Mir. Yeah, it's tough, tough, tough bracket. 62 kilos. Kayla Miracle, 59.
01:20:25
Speaker
You got a lot of options here. Macaluso, Nettie, Beck, Janiak, Motopetis. Yeah, but they got to go through Helen. She's a 57. Oops, my bad.
01:20:38
Speaker
which is Winchester, Martinez, ah Ronna Heaton, now Ronna Gross. What do you call it? why yeahnna Ronna Gross Heaton. Ronna Heaton Gross.
01:20:48
Speaker
How do you say it? don't know. just says Ronna Gross.
01:20:53
Speaker
55 kilos. Hauk, Villescuza, Imani Jones. She's she had a she's been wrestling on the international circuit. Give me Hauk, though. She's tough.
01:21:06
Speaker
53 kilos, Sage Mortimer, Felicity Taylor, T-R-E-K. Give me Sage. Yep. And then 50 kilos. hey Katie Gomez, dude. Oh, yeah. Katie Gomez.
01:21:17
Speaker
50 kilos. Give me Katie Gomez. 50 kilos, Audrey Jimenez, Emily Shilson, Aaron Golston, Mia Palumbo, i Anaya Falcon.
01:21:29
Speaker
There we go. Heather Kroll. Give me Mia. That's a good weight class. yeah yeah yeah jim in has too but also like Mia Palumbo.
01:21:41
Speaker
That's a tough weight. 50 kilograms, we're good there.
Conclusion and Casual Farewell
01:21:44
Speaker
The women ah women are going to be fun to watch this weekend. i don't like that I'm excited to watch our women's freestyle wrestling team in action this weekend. That feels better to say as a man.
01:21:57
Speaker
I like watching those women wrestling.
01:22:03
Speaker
Just trying to avoid the crassness. All right. If you, we're like an hour, 15 minutes into this. You're still listening. were way We're way over schedule, but it's a sponsored episode. So under budget.
01:22:18
Speaker
Sure. My budget is.
01:22:22
Speaker
I've blown my budget wide open. No, we're under budget. No, my, but I have a gaming budget right now. It's so I've spent too much money on this. All right. I need to start getting some money back.
01:22:36
Speaker
um
01:22:38
Speaker
Yeah. Go check out the the little the little fun little trivia game if you want to, because it's kind of fun and I would like some feedback if you could give it one more time. See I do. You.
01:22:51
Speaker
And if you're playing today, ah Reese got it in five and Ryan got it in seven. Yeah, I suck. And I got it in four. And I made the freaking thing.
01:23:03
Speaker
It doesn't really help that I made it. Once you understand it, you understand it. But that is all we have for the for the episode. Ryan and Reese, closing thoughts, please.
01:23:15
Speaker
Closing time.
01:23:20
Speaker
My closing thoughts? You don't have to go home. But you can. Stay here. Goodbye. dots are ah Seth Mendoza, why why aren't you wrestling?
01:23:33
Speaker
You should wrestle. Let's get Seth on the pod. Running hurts the legs and now he needs some time to recover. Yes, that was good. You shouldn't be running that long when you're going to Missouri, dude. Quiet.
01:23:48
Speaker
Quiet the track record for broken legs.
01:23:56
Speaker
Ironman's doesn't count if you're counting Ironman's. I think he's just talking about O'Toole, right? Softened up. I mean, O'Toole, Elam. Elam had broken legs?
01:24:08
Speaker
I don't know. Yeah, you don't know what injury it was. All right. Goodbye, people. Have a good day. Grant Leith, Noah Certain. And goodbye. that That was a neck. No. Necks. Yes.
01:24:20
Speaker
Necks. ah You know, the leg of the head. Necks. Backs. You know it