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You NEED to Know About Peptides! w/ Jean-Francois Tremblay - Connecting Minds Podcast Ep19
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Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/oEIhnSLemug
Why are peptide being referred to as “the future of medicine”?
These tiny little proteins that our bodies make, when added exogenously, can have incredible effects on our longevity, recovery, and wellbeing.
On this episode of Connecting Minds, I have a chat with Jean-Francois Tremblay who has been into peptides since way before it was cool!
Join us as he shares with some of his insights and expertise into these amazing molecules that already catalysing a new paradigm in health, longevity, and our ability to tackle some of the most complex disease-states.
I’m super excited to share this with you and I hope many more people are introduced to the incredible potential of peptides in the near future!
Links to Jean-Francois’ resources:
Website: http://canlabsciences.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CanLab-1979528065702341
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Introduction
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Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Connecting Minds podcast. My name is Christian Jordonov. Thank you so much for joining me today. Today on the podcast, I have Jean-Francois Tremblay. He is a big peptide expert.
Potential of Peptides in Medicine
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He was into peptides before it was cool, basically. And if you don't know what peptides are,
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These are, this is like, I have not been more excited about something in a very, very long time. So peptides, this I believe is the future of medicine. This is the future of longevity. It's the future of overcoming the most complex of health problems. And basically peptides are tiny little proteins that our bodies make. They use like signaling molecules and they can
00:00:53
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do a number of things. They can help to repair the gut. They can help the body to secrete more growth hormone, more anabolic and restorative hormones and compounds. They can, as you'll find out later on the episode, they can even help you to tan, get a tan without even getting into the sun at all. There's thousands of these in the human body and
Jean-Francois's Background and Peptide Focus
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We're finding more and more, we're isolating more, we're learning more about their mechanisms and they're just absolutely incredible. Jean-Francois, as I said, he's an expert. He runs a lab in Canada. They have high-quality peptides and
00:01:41
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I was really glad to get him on the episode. Let me know what you think. If there's particular peptides for specific health goals that you have, let me know. He said he'd be willing to come back and discuss a specific thing, like whatever for peptides for longevity, peptides for getting jacked, you know, body re-composition, losing weight, whatever.
00:02:08
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They're so amazing. They have so many different uses that, as I said, I don't think I've been this excited about something for probably four years. So I really want to share, just get these on the radar, on your radar, on more people's radar, because I think they're really gonna blow up in the future.
00:02:36
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there's a lot of benefits that we can reap from these amazing little molecules that I suppose one of the minor drawbacks about peptides is they need to most of them need to be injected subcutaneously so kind of like in the fat of the belly which to be honest with you is it's actually not as scary or of a hassle as you might think it only literally takes a couple of minutes
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to do, it's painless, but the health benefits that you get from these things are... I honestly don't think there are supplements out there that can exhibit the same beneficial effects as these tiny little proteins
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Again, that our bodies make, these are things our bodies make, they're not foreign compounds. So this is the amazing part. And I guess the issue is that the older we get, the less of them we produce. And that is why having more of them in our system has these amazing kind of wide ranging effects in the body. So as you can probably tell, I'm very excited about this topic. I'm super excited to have Jean-Francois on the podcast.
00:04:13
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a couple of doctors on so we'll be talking more about peptides for different purposes. So trust me when I say that all the best doctors out there are using these things. All the smartest biohackers are using them. So this is why.
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to share some of his knowledge
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the name of this episode is you need to know about peptides because I'm telling you this is the future of health longevity and basically dealing with this chronic health disease epidemic pandemic that we are dealing with right now. So thank you so much for joining me once again. I hope you enjoy the show. And without further ado, here is Jean-Francois Tremblay.
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Connecting Minds is a space dedicated to honoring the amazing authors, researchers, clinicians, artists, and entrepreneurs who are contributing to our collective evolution or simply making the world a better place. These thought-provoking conversations are intended to expand our horizons, so come with an open mind and let us grow together. Here is your host, Christian Yordanov.
00:05:38
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Today on the Connecting Minds podcast, I'm honored to have Jean-Francois Twemble. Did I say that correctly? That was, yeah, good. How are you? Can you give folks a little bit of your background and how you got into peptides before we get into the nitty gritty of it, please? Well, okay, sure. Okay, I'm based in Canada.
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My academic background is my first degree. Well, first I entered university studying biochemistry. Then I moved to kinesiology, exercise science. I got my degree in that. And after that, that's a bit irrelevant, but I did one year of mechanical engineering, you know, for the maths and physics and all that, because I was interested in biomechanics.
00:06:39
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And to my big surprise, after that, I got admitted in the pharmacy school here in Montreal, so I studied pharmacy. And then I started my career, so to say, but not in pharmacy, actually. It was more like training and consulting with athletes. So that the earlier,
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years of my career was very sport-oriented.
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with athletes. Of course, I was very popular, you know, studied pharmacy and kinesiology. You know, the link was fastly made. So I was not consulted for training per se. I was consulted for supplement enhancement. Exactly. And I did that for a few years and I started to travel. Actually, I went to live in
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in Mexico for almost 10 years. Then there I continued to do that once I started, I spoke Spanish, it took me a year. And then from there I moved to Europe where actually I did a master degree in pharmacology. And I came back to Canada 2013. Okay.
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and I kind of reestablished myself here. And along the years, and as I was getting older, I was more and more into consulting in, I wouldn't say anti-aging per se, because the funny thing about all those anti-aging protocols and all that is that none are proven yet because it didn't start
00:08:37
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long ago enough, so we have people that we see the actual benefits of those therapies. So it's still in the air, but I prefer to call them healthy aging. That's what I propose. And now that's basically
00:08:59
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what I do, you know, and it's much more gratifying actually to improve somebody's health than to bring somebody, some athletes to some, it's nice, you know, to bring an athletes to a higher level, but this is it. As somebody who's in the bad health and you bring him to a good health and a better health, then that's, you know, more as a person,
00:09:28
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I'm sure you'll understand it much more clearly fine. That's why I wrote a book on autism. I wanted to write a book on kind of like elevating executives and like work on executive coaching type clients. It's more of that. Because the funny thing, you know that book that was written in 1982.
00:09:50
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The title is called Life Extension. It was by Sean and his wife. I bought it by then. And already I was interested in those topics, but not for the life extension part, but for the improvement. And that's why I went into kinesiology for the
00:10:13
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I don't like sports, but I believe in exercise and training as one mean or one tool to help that
Historical and Scientific Background of Peptides
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purpose. And then pharmacology is to an amazing mean, you know, not all drugs are bad and now we have peptides that are not even drugs and they do amazing things.
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Yeah. And they, they came out of, you know, pharmaceutical research, at least to a great extent. Well, it came out actually, I would say the actual mob, it came with the Russian peptides, the bioregulators that, that whole, uh, leaded by Kevin Sand and St. Petersburg. And that's almost like 50 years ago, which was during the cold war.
00:11:05
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He was a doctor with the military. So, you know, they say, okay, him and other ones, they say, find things, you know, to make our soldiers better. And he came across peptides and that's how it started. So actually, just before we get that, can you tell the listeners
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what are, first of all, what are peptides and maybe weave into how you got into peptides as your career kind of progressed as you move around. Give a little bit of peptides. It's really easy. Chemically, there are little chains of amino acids, basically. As soon as you link two amino acids together, that becomes a peptide.
00:11:57
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Technically, it's up to about 50 amino acids. You talk of a peptide. After that, you have polypeptides and proteins. Why are they so interesting? Well, many reasons, but one of them is that
00:12:21
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We produce them naturally, our body, our cells, they're signaling molecules. We produce, we know more than 7,000 peptides already that we know
00:12:39
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what they are. We don't know all what they do. That's why you have so many research coming out now. It's not that they discovered a new peptides, they just some team somewhere is okay, this one, let's look into we know it exists. Let's look into what does it do. But it's estimated that probably we have like more than 250,000 peptides in the body. Many of them we don't we're not even aware of.
00:13:09
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They're really at the core of our biochemistry many times at the gene level. I could explain a bit. Some of them, they work interacting directly with the DNA chain to modify the gene expression. So that's really epigenetic at its core.
00:13:33
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you cannot get better than that. I've seen it, someone said, maybe it was even you on the podcast that the smaller peptides seem to have more... Yeah. I found that, Karlin always stated that too is actually, he saw that in a funny way
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they seem somehow to have the most impact. And I think because they're so small, you know, peptides, as I said, they're signaling molecules, they are like keys. So probably being so small, they introduce themselves so easily.
00:14:17
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in receptors. It's hard to tell. But being so small, that's what allows them. That's why those Russian bioregulators there is like a bunch of them. They all from two to four amino acids and they introduce themselves all the way into the DNA chain and modify makes it
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it modifies a bit the configuration of the DNA in that position, which increased the expression of the genes there with all the cascade of positive effects you get from that.
00:14:55
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Right. So basically the epigenetic stuff you were kind of alluding to. Yeah. Yeah. And all those bioregulators, Russian, they work there in the DNA. Other ones, some of them, you know, they have their receptor site on the wall of the cell, the wall of the nucleus, or some like mitochondria walls inside mitochondria. You know, they have many, many
00:15:23
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They could work, but the nice part, they all exist already in their body. And that, you know, over the years and evolution shows us that aging, what is aging? Basically what I believe, we're born.
00:15:48
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to die, basically. There is two ways for a species to perpetrate itself, either through eternal life, you never die, or through reproduction. So on this planet, reproduction was chosen for pretty much all species. So that implies death.
00:16:13
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And, you know, what I'm gonna say may sound harsh for some listeners, but, you know, nature is cruel. So if we look only in the eyes of nature, basically any individual from any species, when it cannot reproduce anymore, then it become useless. Then,
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That's kind of the trigger.
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for the death process. Obviously, it doesn't happen from one day to the next, but the trigger, the signals are sent, okay, this individual, it's time to die. So slowly things happen, biochemically, that accumulation of senescent cells, and mostly actually, that's one of the main
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it seems to be one of the main targets now of aging. All those processes start and slowly you start the death process and you die. So, and why did I get so interested? Well, actually personally in peptides, because I read like it was at the end of the 90s,
Personal Experiences and Business Ventures in Peptides
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I read an article on that tanning compound, Meranotan, in the French magazine, Ciencivie. And you know, there was a little thing. And me, I was like, oh, because usually I'm white like a ghost. So I say, and nothing ever worked, you know, I would burn in the sun and nothing worked. And I got interested in that petite. And I could, it was cost me quite a lot at the time.
00:18:10
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and I could get some, and hey, guess what? It worked. Then after that, a few more peptides at the beginning of this century came out, mostly growth hormones and critagogy at the time. And I got interested in those compounds right away.
00:18:33
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People say I'm an expert in peptides for a long time, but back then it was easy to be an expert in peptides. There were only three or four rounds. You knew those four and back, you were the expert. That's a bit more complicated. That's how I got interested, personally, because I say, oh, and it was funny because first time you use them,
00:18:57
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You know, you take medication or supplements, you're used to big pills or if you do injections of vitamins or whatever, you know, it's like 1 ml, 2 ml, 3 ml. And suddenly you start with those peptides and you inject like a tenth of a ml. And you know, there is, you're not talking milligrams, you're talking micrograms. And you say, oh, such a small amount.
00:19:24
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of compound will have such a huge effect because you're talking, you know, tanning, you know, it's not like life-saving or anything, but when you start to, it's your whole body that gets darker, the same thing. Normally we need to spend hours in the sun. Now you take that little shot and Mia was like, whoa, that's perfect. So you take Milano tan and you don't even have to be in the sun. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, Mia, I didn't go in the sun for like,
00:19:54
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years and years. And yeah, because it's an analog of the melanin stimulating hormones that stimulates the secretion of melanin. So it's your natural
00:20:07
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tan that it makes it come out. And yeah, of course, people, they say it works better if you go in the sun because, you know, it brings it out faster, that's all. But me, I never did that always. And yeah, I got actually at some times in my life, I was too dark.
00:20:31
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But are there any other physiological benefits to melanotin? Oh, there are. Yeah, it was found out that it's actually, it's inflammatory. Because that's the thing, it works, the receptors are in the upper centers in the brain. So that's why you have, there is a pro sexual effect to it.
00:20:58
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like for a while the company wanted to use it to compete with Viagra back then because it works amazingly good but it's not local it stimulates the parts in the brains that are linked to your sexual organs and provoke those things plus it
00:21:24
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It's not only the for men, it's not only the erection, it's the drive that is improved. The sensations are actually better. So because women as well. Yeah, it turns out it works pretty good for women.
00:21:43
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Awesome. Sometimes too well. That's awesome. You got in with Melanotan. How did you then progress on your personal journey with peptides? Well, first by using them.
00:22:07
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Because I think even when you look into all those podcasters on anti-aging, healthy aging, health, sport, whatever, I think we all started at the same point. What can I do for myself?
00:22:26
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So, you know, first it was for me. I say, oh, then this one comes up. Okay, that I'll try it. You find out it works. You start as I was consulting. So, you know, I was already in the field. I say, why don't you try this? Let's try that. And suddenly you develop kind of a pool of
00:22:49
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your little own studies, so to say, you say, okay, I give it to 20 people and I don't know, two didn't get any results. So you start to develop your own. It's not very scientific. It's empirical, but you start to get a good idea how it goes. So with time, with my clients, with myself,
00:23:13
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with close friends, you know, that are into that too and over the years, you know, you
00:23:23
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you get to know them, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. So you have, you produce peptides, right? CanLab, you guys... Yeah, no, well, yeah. When I came back to Montreal, it took me like a couple of years, but yeah. The lab was set up already. I hooked up with a biochemist and we started to produce. He was making peptides already, but for other means.
00:23:53
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Umm...
00:23:55
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So he was looking for kind of a lab rat. So he knew there was a market, but he had no clue how to bring it out. He knew I had some reach through people I knew. So we hooked up and we started to make them. That's amazing. And so what has been like your biggest challenge with producing and bringing it to the market so far?
00:24:26
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competition. Meaning that there were already a lot of companies selling peptides on the internet. You know, you Google buy peptides and you're gonna have pages and pages and pages. And you know, it was like, okay, we're just one more, we're new. What differentiates us?
00:24:55
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So basically, and it fast and people they realize, because you know, I even posted there is a video of me in the lab, you know, not very professional video, but you know, you see me in the lab, how we make them. And it turns out, we are the only ever
00:25:16
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company that ever made that kind of video. Go look at all those companies. The best you're going to get are pictures of a lab. It's easy to get internet pictures, set up a website, whatever. But there is nobody you don't know who's behind them, even the biggest. The only one that I know of
00:25:46
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that you knew who was behind it, was in America, it was TaylorMade. You know, they were very upfront with that. You knew who was behind it. They would do podcasts on them. That's Dr. C's one, right? At the time, yeah. But Dr. C's and Ryan Smith, who was their front speaker. And you know, you knew who was behind them. So at least you had that security.
00:26:16
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Then I came up with my own little, we're going to make better ones this year. And none of those companies, you don't know who's behind. And even if you, you know, some people, they're good at searching on the net and okay, look at the company and the company of the company, and you kind of get to the actual owners, you cannot even find that. You don't know, they're just there and they sell something and you have no clue who they are.
00:26:46
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And it turns out that I would say 99% of all those companies, they get Chinese products. Because it's easy. Even myself, when I started, I was getting them from China. That was the only source. You could get them. They would get them from China. And per se, well, the problem is, or the situation is,
00:27:15
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Equality. You don't know Chinese. They're historically known that if they can pass a fast one on you, they will. Example, Melanotan.
00:27:27
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There is a study that came out in 2014 in Scandinavia, one of the Scandinavian countries. They ordered 15 vials of Meranotan from different companies to analyze them. So it turns out they all contain Meranotan at different degrees of purity.
00:27:50
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But, uh, they were all sold as 10 milligrams per vials. But in the analysis, they showed that systematically they contained five milligrams, half of it. So, but nobody ever knew that. Why? Because, uh, because in China it's not like there is 50 places that make peptides. There is maybe two or three.
00:28:17
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If you go on Alibaba, they all resellers that get from those. So let's say a company, they say, okay, they make one kilo of Meranotan. They make all the corresponding vials and everything. Then they reach all those resellers. They say, okay, we have this. How many do I keep for you? How many for you? And then they sell them. That's why you have pretty much all the same prices. It's pretty much everything is the same.
00:28:46
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What happened? They would get all the same products basically from the same. You start using it in Portugal. Eventually, you'll develop a tan. It's going to take you 10, 15 days because you're not taking one milligram a day. You're actually taking half a milligram, but you will get the tan eventually. I'm in Canada, the same thing. Forum, we talk, we say, yeah, yeah, okay.
00:29:11
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It's good because we got the tan at the same time. And you get the expression, if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes true. So now the truth was, yeah, this is it. It works that way and bang. I mean, I remember when we put our melana tan on the market, one of the effect of it when you start is you get some kind of a stomach
00:29:43
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It's weird. It lasts only for a few minutes, but you feel like you want to throw up, but you don't. You feel bad. It's not a big thing.
00:29:55
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A lot of my clients, they would switch to my Melanotan and then they would write or call me and say, hey, I threw up because they were used to have those vials. So now they would take the full dosage. They were not used to that. And even if they had used it before, and then they would throw up.
00:30:16
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But see, the Chinese, they will do that. You will get the tan, so they go away with less.
Market Dynamics and Distribution Challenges
00:30:25
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And that's one trick they have. Another trick is, well, yeah, another trick I remember back in, that's maybe 15 years ago, when the big
00:30:39
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crazy about, or maybe less, uh, the growth term, uh, growth hormone. They would sell growth hormone at the great cap. They would call green caps and all that. And when reseller or company, they started, they put on the market, very, very good quality. Well, those you would buy 10 IUs and they would sell those ones for about six months.
00:31:07
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Then they switch to another compound. I don't remember what it is. Okay. When you take growth hormone, eventually you'll develop what they call a carpal tunnel syndrome, inflammation, and it's bothering. So they switched it for something else that had for a side effect, that carpal tunnel inflammation, but it wasn't growth hormone anymore. So you didn't get
00:31:35
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So people, they would use it and fast, they would get the carpal tunnel inflammation and it would say, Oh, it must be really strong and good. And, and, and they probably made a bunch of money with that. Um, plus you have the quality, you know, when you produce mass produce the way they do. And more so, you know, there is an optimal quality of peptides that, okay, let's say I wanted to make, uh,
00:32:07
Speaker
one gram, let's say one to 20 grams, I can get a very high purity. If I make a kilo, no, I cannot get the same purity. It's too much to sensitize, to filter at the end.
00:32:25
Speaker
I'm not saying it's going to go down to 50%, but let's say you sensitize one kilo of a peptide, you will not get that high, high purity you would get with smaller batches. And they do that. They must produce. You see that with pretty much anything they do.
00:32:47
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Yeah. You know, that's why they say that, you know, that everybody wants their way. The virus is sticking around so long. You know, if it came from China, it shouldn't last too long. So, you know, it's all those quality things. So we came up and we showed people that mostly as a company, they were produced here. We had quality products and
00:33:18
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you would get what you pay for. Let me tell you what my dilemma is. Maybe you can advise me. First of all, I think a lot of people, I don't think I'd ever advise any one client of mine to inject these research chemicals mostly from China. We don't know what the... Technically, we don't really know unless you buy
00:33:45
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you buy 10 or 20 vials and you have one cent over, but it becomes expensive. So I think my dilemma right now is first of all, and maybe this is the question I want to pose to you, part of it is when will this go from research only to when can we
00:34:06
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buy like a supplement if, if ever, or pharmaceutical or informacies as a prescription. Yeah. Well then, sorry. Okay. Let's, let's tackle that one because there's, it's quite a complex issue. Well, it's happening already. Uh, I know in America for sure. There is a couple of peptides that are sold in pharmacies. Uh, the, the whole international situation about that is it's easy because we produce them in the body.
00:34:36
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pharmaceutical companies cannot patent them. So let's say I'm a pharmaceutical company, I put peptide on the market, of course, you know, they're in for the money. So let's say they sell it $500 for
00:34:57
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whichever amount. And then because there is no patent, first thing you know, a month after somebody is going to come out, make the generic of it and sell it for $100. And but so nobody's going to buy from that company. So they don't have an interest doing it. They didn't have, but they knew it. They know it's good. So the now the way they worked around it is the patent
00:35:28
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They patent the peptide just for the form and its applications. Now, if you look at the newest peptides, you're going to say patent for, I don't know, time is in beta four. There is one company and its application. Then they're going to list everything that they know about, it's good for. Why?
00:35:54
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because now it's in the market, in the pharmacies, and there are doctors that in the US that do prescribe peptides, lots of them. Now they have to go to compounding pharmacies, but there are still pharmacies. Now that company that makes a time as in beta four as their product in pharmacies too, they will, it's not there yet.
00:36:18
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So now, because they have the patent on the applications, even if the pharmacist could compound that peptide for cheaper than the pharmaceutical one, they won't be able to because, no, the doctor prescribed it for that
00:36:38
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condition. And since that petite is under patent for that condition, that will force the pharmacist to sell the pharmaceutical one. So that's how they kind of grab the market. And true lobbying and all that, they tried to kill the gray market, so to say, those internet sales and everything.
00:37:07
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By the way, I don't know, in Europe, are there compounding pharmacies? I'm not aware of actually. I know it exists like for creams and little stuff, but I found Europe to be a lot for living there and I've seen it
00:37:31
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much more secretive on their things. Think about Switzerland, you know, for decades they've been known, you know, North Americans, you know, they go to Switzerland for those anti-aging therapies and nobody knew exactly what they were doing. You know, each clinic had its little own thing and what are they doing there? You may have a rough idea, but
00:37:58
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none of the minute details. So I think a lot is happening in Europe, in clinics and in centers and doctors, but I think they're much more closed on what they're doing. You know, they don't shut it out. Yeah, we don't have conferences or anything. Yeah, I don't know if it's because of laws, you know, to protect themselves or just
00:38:27
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just to keep their market. But I found it to be much more close. You don't have much information coming from Europe. It's conferences, as you said.
00:38:45
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That's why this year hopefully soon we'll be able to travel again and planning to do a few conferences over Europe on peptides. To organize them?
00:38:58
Speaker
Well, to go, yeah, organize and do myself and a couple of other specialists. Yeah, let me know. I hope you published that somewhere because I'd definitely be up for going. You see, the problem we have is in Europe, if we want quality stuff, quality supplements, I have to buy it from America, from the USA mostly.
00:39:23
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The problem is the import duty and especially fast delivery that just make it prohibitively costly. And then the other thing is the customs is really bad in Portugal, so you have to wait for weeks. So with peptides, you want a good two-day delivery. Yeah, in many European... I shipped to Europe.
00:39:47
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Portugal, Spain, they just return them. They keep them for a long time just to tell you at the end, no, and they ship it back here. Germany, the same thing. They don't let them through. Other countries, Switzerland, no problems. Belgium, Holland, England, it's like they don't care. Yeah, sure. This is such a big problem in Europe. And that was a good thing, not because of the Brexit. They have that
00:40:14
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border again between England and Europe or soon to be, but they started to install some. So a lot of people in Europe, like in Germany, you have re-shippers in England. So I would ship to England and then it would pass a custom in England, no problem. And then we shipped to Germany or to Spain or Portugal or Italy with stuff.
00:40:41
Speaker
But again, I ship to, I know Switzerland is good. Austria is good. France is actually not so bad. Belgium, good. So you used to work with these guys, yeah, in Europe? Yeah, yeah. It's not my big market, but England all the time. And you know, we ship it very fast. Two, three days it's there.
00:41:07
Speaker
Yeah, because I'd love to maybe get some of those people's contacts because I have no problem paying extra money to get good product and not have to deal with customers. I've been working with a guy now that is a businessman. Half the time I have Skype with him. He's either in England or in Dubai.
00:41:32
Speaker
So and is really, really interested in setting up kind of a hub in Europe, okay, where you would order here, you know, from the same website, but it would, it would be shipped from within Europe, you know, there
00:41:47
Speaker
You see, that's the key. That's the key to success because... Or what I'll tell you is, so the best supplement companies, the smartest guys, so Dr. Mercola, iHerb.com, what they do is they charge the import duty at the point of sale. If you can get that figured out, then there's no problem because once it gets to customs here, oh, it's import duty paid, so they don't have to worry about it. You see, that is the key
00:42:14
Speaker
Oh, I didn't know that because we ship with DHL and we can do that. Yeah. Yeah. Because DHL, I'll tell you, I had some blue blockers that got returned because DHL called me up. You need to pay a duty, but then they also charge you a handling fee. So it's like 70% of the product.
00:42:34
Speaker
Yeah. So some people I saw, you know, they would email me kind of complaining about that, but without giving the details, you say, Oh, it's expensive. But I say, no, you know, maybe you get for $200. I mean,
00:42:49
Speaker
taxes, can you pay them $200? No, I understand. Okay, yeah, I'll look into that. Awesome. Yeah, definitely. We'll talk after and get those folks' contacts because, again, I'm doing some protocols with Ippo Morell and CJC, and I'd love to know that stuff. I'm working with a legit company, and I'm sure
00:43:17
Speaker
Anyway, that's one point, though, because I've been contacted a lot of times. You know, people, they say, Oh, can you declare something else? Or, you know, villain, and so it comes in easier. And yeah, well, we could, but we don't, because we believe we're legit companies.
00:43:37
Speaker
And we don't want to jeopardize our reputation. Because the way it works today, they would catch one of those shipment. They would flag us all over the place. It's on a computer. Oh, they do that kind of shipping. And that would compromise us so much. So we cannot do that. Give you a whole delivery pipeline.
00:44:04
Speaker
And that's what, you know, let's say I shipped to England or to Switzerland, it is, they're small quarters, therefore, personal use would occur them. Now, if we make a hub there, and that's what that guy is looking at. Now, obviously, if we ship a thousand vials or
00:44:25
Speaker
whatever, it's obvious that it's not for personal use, it's for commercial use. So that's a different story in terms of custom, declaration, there need to be a company in place to receive them. They have to report the sales, you know, through tax reports, whatever. So, you know, it's different. That's right. It's taking time to set that up properly. But we're working on that.
00:44:51
Speaker
Awesome. I am.
Health Applications of Peptides
00:44:52
Speaker
I'm looking forward to staying, keeping abreast of your progress there. Let's take it back to the actual peptides. What would you, someone like, okay.
00:45:06
Speaker
I want to use peptides to improve my health in some aspect, increase my longevity, whatever. Maybe they want to lose weight. Maybe they have a chronic health complaint. What would you say are like the top five peptides someone needs to know about? Okay. Well, okay. To finish what I was saying about aging. So basically, and you will understand after my explanation.
00:45:36
Speaker
The mechanism of dying kicks in and you're starting to die. So there is nothing you can do against that naturally, so to say. You can have the better diet, the exercise, you know, your sleep is good. Yeah, it's going to make your life better, but it's not going to stop the aging processes because that's genetic, it's programmed.
00:46:08
Speaker
It affects your own biochemistry. So one of the better way I found, the only way you have is to tweak with that biochemistry. So maybe you cannot stop the signal of dying, but you can put, let's say one of those signal is, okay, decrease the production of this,
00:46:32
Speaker
peptide or hormone or anything, then that that we see with testosterone replacement therapies, you know, so you take testosterone. So now you trick nature. So it's a bit like that with peptides, you know, okay, like one peptide that's kind of you knew is much see that was first investigated for metabolic syndrome, you know, it
00:47:00
Speaker
improves a lot insulin sensitivity, lose weight, fat utilization, everything. It's great for that. But then they found out they suspect it's an anti-aging compound. For example, in Okinawa in Japan, you know that
00:47:21
Speaker
where you have a very high rate of centenarians, they found out they have a snipe of a gene that makes them, they have abnormally high levels of mutc in their cells. So we suspect, oh, it's part of the puzzle, you know, why they live so long.
00:47:42
Speaker
Uh, so it's by triggering. So if naturally your levels of mud sea are going down, well, you bring it back up yourself. And, uh, and you know, so you may, well.
00:47:58
Speaker
you will see it a bit complicated because now you're telling me, okay, there are 7000 non peptides, 1000s more, you know, you cannot start shooting like 1000s of peptides. Well, maybe one day that's what we're going to do, you know, maybe, you know, 100 years, maybe that's going to be the thing. But it turns out that now you don't need to because
00:48:26
Speaker
They signal to so many places. Of course, there are new ones coming out, but for example, another mitochondrial peptide is the human end. And just that one given to mice, they found they lived 20% longer. And that's one peptide. So you don't need to take thousands of them. If you take one peptide that was shown in mice, we hope in man,
00:48:54
Speaker
human too, it does the same thing, then you get that 20%. It's not adding up, of course. It's not like you're taking five compounds and then you get 100% longer now. But it kind of adds up and you have those synergetic effect. And yeah, we suspect that combinations of a few peptides were good because
00:49:23
Speaker
It's, people are healthier and they feel better and you know, you do blood tests and they are better. And that's part of it. Obviously, if you feel better, if your organs function as they should, you decrease your insulin resistance. One thing I got from that book in 82, it was kind of basic in terms, you know, at the time they would suggest raise your growth hormone to take
00:49:49
Speaker
ornithine and arginine, you know, that's all we knew back then. And maybe a couple of drugs, there was that one for hypertension that raises growth hormone. Now we have secretagogues and everything. But one thing I got from this book is if you want to slow down aging, you have to control two things. You have to control your glissemia,
00:50:17
Speaker
true insulin resistance and everything, and you have to control inflammation. Those are the two things that have, they have to be down. So high blood sugar and inflammation. Yeah. Inflammation at the base. It's very broad because now when you look into details of all those anti-aging compounds do, they work on those two, basically at those two things.
00:50:47
Speaker
Yeah. So basically, this is it. And that's even why I don't like to talk about life extension, per se, because if you have a healthy aging,
00:51:02
Speaker
Of course, chances are you're going to live longer because you didn't die 10 years before of a cancer or of a heart attack or you understand? So the mere fact of being healthy during those years will bring you further in age.
00:51:20
Speaker
I mean, that's definitely, I definitely think that's 100% correct. So that's why I believe in some people they freak out because some of those peptides are expensive and I cannot afford to take all that. Again, to come to the five, you don't need to go crazy and spend fortune on that. I do believe too in the
00:51:44
Speaker
80-20 rule, you know, we see that in sports. If you train, you just want to be in good shape, you train three times a week for an hour weight training, you'll have an amazing shape down the line. But that's not going to bring you to a competitive level in any sports.
00:52:11
Speaker
But that 20%, you know, three hours a week of training will bring about 80% of your potential. Now, if you want to become an athlete to compete and to a higher level,
00:52:26
Speaker
Then to go get that 20% difference, you'll need to throw in that 80% effort. That means go to the gym two, three, four hours a day and the whole shebang. So it's a bit the same thing with those, with that. You don't, yeah, you can go full fledged, spend thousands of euros or dollars per month.
Longevity and Personal Health Goals
00:52:50
Speaker
Supplements and yeah, you'll get to that like top level like they've asked for you says I want to live a hundred and eighty years. Yeah Well, I don't even see the point actually because it's You know, they ask people old people Would you like to live longer and basically The
00:53:17
Speaker
How could I say that? I would say wealthy, but no, people were well off in life. They said, no, why? What is there more for me? And if you talk to super rich, they say, I've traveled everywhere. I had everything I want. They don't see the point of,
00:53:43
Speaker
pushing it further and poor people, so to say, they say, well, what you want to extend my misery. So no, you have those two extremes. What I found actually people want to live longer or younger people in their twenties and thirties because they are at the peak of their health and they want to remain like that.
00:54:10
Speaker
And I was there. That's what I wanted back then. But as you age, because that whole dying thing, it's not only physiological, it's at one point you kind of, it seems like our biology shows us that, yeah, okay, no, that's the way of life. And you fall into more and more of an acceptance of it.
00:54:37
Speaker
and it becomes less important to live longer. Now healthier, a hundred percent that I want that.
00:54:48
Speaker
I don't try to live 150 years. What do you want to live to? I think that'd be cool. And I remember that talk, I saw that Manny was 94 and
00:55:09
Speaker
bodybuilding at 94, really didn't have a great shape at that age, but you know, he was in good shape. And he said the most important thing, you know, uh, never eat well, exercise and never stop working. Okay. There is a poet and singer here in Quebec. He used to say that the best way to kill a man is to pay him to do nothing. Hmm.
00:55:37
Speaker
you're going to kill the person. We're meant to do things. And it's funny because that joke, the guy said, he said, imagine you are a hundred years old and you know, in perfect health and you go skiing.
00:55:52
Speaker
all day. It's fine. Then you come back at night and you have a bit of pains in the knees, but that's normal. You're not 90 anymore. That's what I want. Yeah, that's another. It's about increasing health span. I met that doctor. I was down in Florida for
00:56:13
Speaker
little thing gathering that happened there. And there was that doctor, 80 years old, I forgot his name, but he was known because at 75 Iran, a Spartan race. Oh my God. Great shape. Still practicing doctor in Florida, I think. Um, then the next day I met him, we get a call. He died.
00:56:38
Speaker
You know, he went back to his home and he died the next day. And we asked God, what did he die of? Well, he was in a meditation session and it just died. Wow. So that's how I want to die. Yeah. You live your life to the fullest and then poof your gun. You know, no suffering, no nothing.
00:57:03
Speaker
And that's great. He was 80, not 90, not 100. But let me tell you, that man lived his life more than people who lived 90 or 100 years, or a lot of them. Because he never stopped. That's what I want.
00:57:27
Speaker
Okay, tell me what's your daily peptide, your bread and butter. That is complicated because you don't have them. I want to know all about your protocols. It seemed like a good idea at the time.
00:57:47
Speaker
Wait, let me ask you this. Can you tell me what is the day in the life of Jean-Francois? Tell me the supplements you take. Do you eat breakfast? Do you not? Go on with everything. I don't do breakfast. I'm still here. It's 1.25 already. But my coffee, I got up late today. I worked late at night. I went to bed at four in the morning.
00:58:11
Speaker
Okay, my coffee, that's the first thing. I put collagen in it. Wait, you haven't done any peptides before you have your coffee? You haven't done any peptides yet? No, today, no. It goes by phases. There are times I don't take any, because I'm tired of shooting myself. Other times I shoot myself like six times. So creatine in the coffee was? Collagen? Creatine, collagen.
00:58:41
Speaker
It's tyrosine, the amino acid. About one gram. That's my morning, a very strong coffee. A bit of cream. Supplements, again, they're all over the place. I don't believe, okay, vitamins, minerals, you need to take them pretty much every day. A good rule of thumb on supplements.
00:59:10
Speaker
If you should take all the time, it's easy. Ask yourself, can I be deficient in this? So can you be deficient in magnesium? Yes. So take magnesium and every day.
00:59:24
Speaker
Can you be deficient in a Kirkman? No. So it's not meant to be taken all the time. Yeah. You need to cycle. So Mia would prefer, you know, they say, okay, example for anti-cancer antioxidant Kirkman green tea extract, and maybe a couple of other ones. Mia would be more to not take a bit of each every day.
00:59:52
Speaker
but I would take a much higher dose of only curcumin one day. Then the next day take a much higher dose of only green tea extract and so on and rotate like that. So because anything that is not necessary to the body, you develop some kind of resistance to it.
01:00:23
Speaker
Even training, actually, that's why all the studies you will ever see on training, most of them, they're done at the most on the 12 weeks period. Because after that,
01:00:38
Speaker
it's not working so good. They will need to change. That's why you have periodization and training because it was realized a long time ago that not one training, the best training you can do, the best training for you is the one you're not doing. Absolutely. Keep that in mind. You need to change. And I believe it's the same with those non-essential supplements.
01:01:03
Speaker
it's better to rotate them, higher dose, rotate, and then you can sustain much longer and don't develop that accoutrements, you know, you get used to it. Yeah. Yeah. The body's down right now. I have a bunch around, but I don't take them every day. You know, I said, okay, today I'll take this one and this one.
01:01:27
Speaker
But what about peptides? So don't, don't hold out on us. Come on. You're torturing us. Okay. Anti-aging basically health in general. Um, okay. Time is in beta four. Okay. I take a 10 milligram shot maybe once a week. Okay.
01:01:51
Speaker
One shot, bang. Yeah, sometimes I forget. I don't keep track, but I say, oh, if I just poof a shot. I'm a big believer in cycles. That comes from training to Olympic lifting I did for a few years, and it's all based on the microcycle, microcycles, and all that.
01:02:15
Speaker
I believe in the natural cycle. So a year is a natural cycle. Three months is like a season. A day is a cycle. A week is not. We made that up. Yeah, we did make that up. A lunar cycle though. Yeah.
01:02:31
Speaker
28 days. Yeah, you could consider, but I'm more into close to three weeks. It's actually 17 days, but to round it up to 20, 21 days, it's the life cycle of a mitochondria. So if anything you'll take that works with mitochondria, you do it in three weeks first.
01:02:57
Speaker
So, for my anti-aging protocols, usually what I would do is do one or two compounds for three or six weeks, four times a year. Okay. And basic, basic, those compounds I would do four times a year would be BPC157 because it covers pretty much
01:03:23
Speaker
repairing of tissues, you're going to say, well, what does it have to do with anti-aging? Well, that's the point. If your tissue is healthy, repaired, then it won't get sick because it's not only good to repair tendons and ligaments, it repairs
01:03:41
Speaker
pretty much everything, lung, heart, liver, kidneys, brain, everything. So it can be, it is a healthy aging peptide. The epitolone, this one I do twice a year, systematically. Any peptide... What about the secretagogues, growth hormone secretagogues?
01:04:10
Speaker
Yeah, that outcome to that. But in terms of cycles, any peptide that is for the immune system could be the Russian Timallen or the Timulin, which is different, but works good too. Could be time is an alpha one and there is a few other ones.
Peptide Administration and Benefits
01:04:31
Speaker
Either one you do four times a year, just to, they work like
01:04:38
Speaker
adaptogen, you know, they will bring your immune system where it should be. So that I think it's very important. And okay, one peptide that I found to be very, very underrated, it's a GHK peptide. It's a three amino acid peptide. But when you start to read about it, it's, listen, it
01:05:08
Speaker
affect the expression of more than 4,000 genes that we know of. It's ridiculous. It works. And you know, it's one of those small peptides that so it, it repairs damaged DNA. There are some forms of cancer
01:05:34
Speaker
that I think you have the cause, you have basically up to 80%, 87% damage DNA.
01:05:44
Speaker
in that cancer, GHK repair the damaged DNA. So that's when you think about it, that's a very profound activity. So I think it's very underrated and that's actually, GHK is probably the only peptide. I tell people, take as long as you can and as much as you can afford.
01:06:12
Speaker
Wow. You know, if you can afford 10 milligrams a day nonstop, do it. That's the one that myself actually, listen, it's a bit crazy. That's what we do biohikers. I got myself an insulin pump. So it's a little machine. You plug it, you know, it's subcutaneous little needles, but you have the pump and every hours it pumps.
01:06:38
Speaker
a bit of the thing. You put one ml, and by the end of the day, it pumps just a little bit. Because JHK works much better like that. It's better to take small shots through the day, so you have the pump, so it does it for yourself.
01:06:59
Speaker
Yeah, maybe 1,000 euros. Oh, okay. But they work great. Otherwise, GHK, if you do it for three weeks, and let's say you're going to do four milligrams a day, you'll be much better off if you do four, one milligram shots through the day. Because in some studies, I've seen this. Okay, let's say you
01:07:28
Speaker
Okay, there was one study, they showed amazing effect, where they would do continuous infusions to mice. And if they would go, and human equivalent was 10 milligrams a day. And if they would do one 10 milligram shots, they would get nothing near the effect of the infusions.
01:07:53
Speaker
So basically, but that was duplicated by doing 10, one milligram shots through the day though. And they say to get the same effect as those 10 individual shots, you wouldn't need to take close to a hundred milligram, one shot. So you see it's, it's very cost efficient to, to spread it out, but it's a bit bothering a little trick I'm going to give to your people there.
01:08:24
Speaker
when you have to do many shots, the most bothering part of it is not the actual shot. It's the preparation of the little syringe. So you buy a bunch of those, you pre-fill them and keep them in the fridge. So when it's time for the shot, you just pull it out, shoot yourself and go. It's going to take 15 seconds.
01:08:49
Speaker
You understand? You won't have to open the fridge, fill up the syringe. Okay. Then I use that. That's the, that's, it's a bit like, uh, male preps, you know, you're on the diet on Sunday afternoon. You prepare all the meals for your week. All you have to do after that, you warm it up. It's ready.
01:09:10
Speaker
Here's the question I have for that. You have those boxes. So you do the same thing with syringes, you pre-fill. But let's say I fill the syringe, I put the cap back on. How long can I be confident that that will remain sterile because it's no longer in a sterile environment? That's, I think, the big question in my head. I'll start doing this today. If you're done the whole process,
01:09:38
Speaker
Like if you wipe the tub on the vial with alcohol and everything, and your environment is sterile, you don't have COVID-19 floating in the air or anything. A normal setup, then you don't need to worry about that. Okay.
01:09:56
Speaker
Cool. Thanks so much for that. You're going to save me a lot. And I have a lot of people doing that and it's very good. You can mix them, you know, some people, yes, you can mix them. Listen, what makes people think you cannot mix them in the same vial or in the same syringe in the fridge at four degrees or in this
01:10:24
Speaker
at room temperature at 20 degrees. What make you think they will interact there? But once you shoot them in your body at 37 degrees, which promote more biochemical reaction, you're going to mix those peptides with thousands of other ones floating in your blood and they don't interact with those peptides in your blood. What makes you think they will
01:10:52
Speaker
in a cold vial or in a cold syringe. They want. We did some testing on that, actually. We tested the stability of CGC-1295 and the Pomerolin together, but it wasn't to show the degradation because we knew they were stable. It was to show that mixed together in the same vials up to a month,
01:11:15
Speaker
in the fridge and with the same process every day we would take the vial out for a few minutes put it back in then every week test no interaction at all so there's stability that's a myth so the whole thing about them being fragile and and like degrading it once you mix them that's a little bit of a myth is it
01:11:36
Speaker
It's not a myth in this look, there are peptides. I know that researcher that he works on the anti cancer peptides. And the guy works with me made peptides for that research. And he said, they had one peptide, it was so unstable, he would finish the filtration after synthesis.
01:12:02
Speaker
And they had to inject it right away in the rats because, but they had to bring the rats next to the filtration unit and inject it because they say if they had to bring the peptide to the other end of the room, by the time they would get to the other side of the room, the peptide would have degraded. But it was a very complex one. Yes, degradation of peptides exists.
01:12:29
Speaker
But not with those ones. They're linear, they're strong chains. They're amazingly stable. You want to try it? Try Melanotan. Prepare a Melanotan vial.
01:12:47
Speaker
Leave it on the counter and use it normally. You're going to tan. It won't degrade. That's what I did. The first time I used it, I was in Spain. I was sharing an apartment. I didn't know the person who was living with me. I didn't want them to know I was shooting myself. So I kept, and it was in the summer in Madrid, 35 degrees, 40 degrees sometimes in my room. I got the tan, no problem.
01:13:16
Speaker
That's right then and there, I found out, oh, it's pretty stable. It's always good practice, keep them in the fridge when they are dry form, keep them in the freezer. But you know, as people sometimes they ask me, you know, how long before they turn bad?
01:13:39
Speaker
They don't turn. It's not milk. You know where it's good, it's good, it's good. It's no good. No, no. It's not like that. There might be, and if you go on Canada page on Facebook, I posted those results. You see a slight degradation. It starts at actually a couple of them right off the
01:14:03
Speaker
the synthesis, 100% pure. And then you see after a week, two weeks, there are 99 point something. That's really good. There is a bit of degradation, but it's very, very small. And clinically, it doesn't make a difference. And actually, you see studies where they study peptides and they work with 95%.
01:14:29
Speaker
And it works great. The problem with that is this. I will post those because I still have some thymosin beta 4 and another peptide I bought in raw form from China. And I want to put up a picture to compare. The one we make is crystal white. The one from China is brownish.
01:14:57
Speaker
We do the HPLC on boat and the boat show 99% purity. But now I'm asking you, 1% impurity and the Chinese one makes it brownish. I don't know what it is, but that doesn't look good to me. It's not floating around free amino acids that were not
01:15:26
Speaker
It's something else. I don't know what it is. We didn't look into that. I still have them. We'll look at what it is, but I will post those pictures and we'll try to see what makes it brown. It's not normal. So that's one of the thing with China, you know, and they will show and you test them and yeah, 99%. It's not the 99% that concerns me. It's that 1%. What is that? Is it heavy metals? You don't know.
01:15:56
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. That's the last thing you want to inject into yourself is heavy metals because that completely bypasses the defense mechanisms.
01:16:05
Speaker
Because people, you know, they talk about aluminum, for example, you know, that in some vaccines that causes autism, because how much aluminum can you have in one vaccine injection to cause those problems? Just to show you, you don't need like 10 grams of aluminum shot. It doesn't take much. If it reached the right place, you have serious problems.
01:16:34
Speaker
Totally. I just want to, before we forget, because I want to be respectful of your time, but before we forget, what's your growth hormone secret to go kind of yearly program look like? Okay. It's like testosterone replacement therapy.
01:16:54
Speaker
Uh, people ask me, okay, uh, you know, there are 50, 60, 70, and they want to, you know, grow to our monthly credit. And they asked me, uh, for how long do I have to take it? Well, it's in the name it's called hormonal replacement therapy. It's replacing something that is not coming back. So basically you take it for the rest of your life. If you can, it's not coming back. So you.
01:17:25
Speaker
We don't secrete as much growth hormone as we ate, right? Yeah, but it's kind of the... The pituitary gland always can secrete growth hormone. It's the stimulus that decreases. You take 80 years old that has almost no growth hormone secretion, give him a shot of CGC 1295.
01:17:55
Speaker
But the pituitary just needs that signal to do its thing. In the worst cases, eventually not even. But in most cases, it just needs that stimulus to start producing and secreting again.
01:18:13
Speaker
So what you're saying is with the growth hormones, it's a lot of doctors are saying five days on, two days off. You could do that definitely. Yeah, because you have that thing and that comes all from that growth hormone culture. Because for many years in America, those anti-aging clinic, it was basically testosterone and growth hormone they would give you. And that was the whole anti-aging thing. But they would give
01:18:44
Speaker
growth hormone. The risk you have by giving growth hormone is to overdose because you want to remain in physiological levels. Most often, they would give too much. The receptors will start to shut down with time, so eventually it wouldn't work as it should.
01:19:12
Speaker
Because of that, they started to cycle the growth hormone. They say, you take it five days, then give a rest to the receptors, and then start again.
01:19:21
Speaker
But with peptides, you don't have that because it has kind of a way and more so if you do it only once a day, you have your daily cycle, you know, you, so you don't, you have, you have a secretion of growth hormone for maybe an hour, then you have roughly 23 hours where it's back to normal. So you have your cycle, your 22, 23 hours rest where there is no stimulation of the growth hormone receptors or you're good.
01:19:52
Speaker
And they were not overstimulated during that one, two hours. And growth hormones, I found it very hard, if you do it once a day, even at high dosage, to bring the growth hormone over the physiological level. Because it's much more natural, it has a way to auto-regulate itself, where you won't secrete too much.
01:20:22
Speaker
You're just going to secrete pretty much what you need. So I found that you don't need to do that. I would do it in cases where usually what I would suggest
01:20:38
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to people is you do it for two, three months, seven days a week, then you go for blood tests, mainly IGF-1, because that's the one. And if it's too high, because when you take those, it's like 10 IUs, and it's already small to measure. So instead of, okay, take seven IUs, so now you're there with the syringe, and it's hard to gauge. So then
01:21:05
Speaker
Instead of decreasing the daily dose, then I would tell them if it's too high, okay, seven days a week, it was too much, then maybe try five days a week.
01:21:17
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I would use that to modulate the response, not to rest the receptors or anything like that. Right, right. That's awesome. That's really good to know. Yeah, because my idea was to do a three-month CJC ephemeral daily, sometimes twice a day.
01:21:35
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Morning yeah that's more like the composition yeah three months again probably you'll raise higher than physiological and you always have to look at things in perspective you know they say okay if you have two high levels of like gf1 you increase the risks of some cancers.
01:21:55
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Yeah, of course. If you have IGF-1 elevated for years, chances are you'll get a cancer. You do it for three months. I'm not saying the risk is not there, but it's very remote. It's like the risk of an infection when you inject. Even if you, in hospitals, there is still a risk, but it's what, one in a hundred thousand? So, you know, the benefits outweigh that little risk.
01:22:20
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Well, I think this is where having a good coach or doctor, because what I will do after, so I'm bulking up, but after this three month period, I'm going to be doing some fasting days and much longer. Oh, by the way, if you want to make that more efficient, it was recently, last year, I think it was found that
01:22:42
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BPC157 increases the receptivity of the growth hormone receptors. So if you take a bit of BPC157 at the same time. With the EPA? Yeah, the growth hormone you will secrete will become more efficient.
01:23:05
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because you will have increased the receptivity, you know, the receptor. And now some people, they propose one of the mechanism of why BPC157 is so good at repairing tissues. That would be one of the mechanisms. It makes the repairing effect of growth hormone work even whatever you have circulating works better.
01:23:30
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You know, I don't know if I'm placebo wing myself, but I did a couple of bottles of BPC one from five seven. And, um, you know, like, uh, pretty amazing. I felt like my, my gut improvement of my gut function, my daily works ridiculously good for that.
01:23:48
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So I can only imagine buying like a product, like a good high quality product, you know, that's, you know, lab tested and whatnot. So this is what with BPC one five seven, I've seen total remission of crown disease in three months.
01:24:06
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Oh my God. This is why I want you on the podcast because we need to spread knowledge of peptides. I'm really honored that you spent so much time with me today. Before I let you go, can you tell folks where to find out more about you, can lab, all that good stuff?
01:24:26
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The best, I think, Facebook. Facebook. Just search CanLab, C-A-N-L-A-B, so we have a page. That would direct us, you if you want, to our store for peptides. I post some information, not so much because Facebook, they have those regulators, so I cut it.
01:24:52
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I'm not much of a writer, so I don't put that many things, but it's a start, you know, of a bit on some, like on GHK, I explain a few things once in a while.
01:25:03
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And from there you can, or just Google can lab. I don't go on Reddit, but I know what they talk about as they are. Overall, it's good reviews. It's pretty good. Yeah. I've been on Reddit on the peptides. It's actually the only, the only two companies that, you know, you hear good things are, are candle lab and a tailor made. I think that tailor made doesn't make,
01:25:31
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most peptides anymore. It was for can lab that was kind of a lucky strike because we kind of became
01:25:42
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one of the best next thing, you know, a lot not have a bunch of clinics and doctors that source your peptides with us. That's awesome. I love that. And I do hope you continue to build this pipeline in Europe because we need this so badly. Like we're honestly, we're a little bit in the dark ages here with all the functional lab testing and all this stuff. So, you know, but again, I don't think you are per se. I think
01:26:12
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Because you have great, you know, you have Dr. Aertogs in Belgium that is a big believer in peptides and he uses them. But see, it doesn't, even him, you don't get much information out of him. You know, he talks about hormones and everything. He says, yeah, peptides, this, that, very fast. Melanotan a bit. Melanotan, one of the advantage of it is, like for women listening, is that
01:26:42
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I don't know if I can say that without sounding racist, but you look at black people, right? They wrinkle less than white people. That's because when you tan, the melanin makes your skin thicker, up to three times thicker. So that's why you wrinkle less. You know, you have a stronger skin. So black people naturally have that strong skin.
01:27:10
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And, but you're going to say, yeah, but people will go in the sun because yeah, because then they have damage from UV lights. So when you use melanotan, you get the tan.
01:27:19
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and it becomes, you wrinkle less. I was told, I'm 57 and somebody, you don't have wrinkles. You don't
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01:27:28
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have wrinkles. You know, I do look older, but I don't have wrinkles because I've used it for so long. And I got a nice tan, but I don't get the damage of, and I know that AirTox use it for that purpose in his anti-aging protocols.
01:27:48
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for the skin technique.
01:27:51
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I think women listening, they really need to listen to what you just said, because a lot of the beneficial effects of the sun, if we can get them through something like a few peptides, maybe not melanotin isn't the only one, but if we can get that, especially where you live in Canada, if you're not able to be like... I pretty much, until now, the rest of the year,
01:28:19
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I can walk without my t-shirt outside and get a bit of sun, at least. But the folks in the border... Yeah, you're lucky. Very lucky. Southern part of Europe is... Yeah, if we can get some of the benefits. It's amazingly nice. I miss it sometimes. Right now, we had our first snow a few weeks ago and all that. When I was in Madrid, there was no snow.
01:28:45
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Listen, if you're ever coming to Portugal, you know who to call. South Portugal. I will, for sure. Jean-Francois, I want to thank you so much once again for joining us today and sharing your insights. We have links to CanLabs' Facebook page and the website in the show notes. And, yeah, looking forward to, you know, sharing this with other people because, like, what you said about the Crohn's remission in
01:29:12
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In three months, I know people with IBS, IBD. I can only imagine these people's benefit. It's not the only thing. You still need to take care of the diet and everything, but suddenly it makes all those other things you're doing, it all falls in place and it works.
01:29:38
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It's like I was interviewing Dr. Amber Krogsrud yesterday. She's big into peptides. And she told me until she took the peptides and the NAD, those were the real game changers in. She had some health issues herself. Until she put those peptides and the NAD in there,
01:30:01
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Uh, you know, she's still doing the other things. It's again, it's the main times that's the miss. It's, it's another tool. Never believe that only peptides me. I'm a bit, you know, for anti-aging, you know, I, I still think that's, that's an old one. It's, uh,
01:30:18
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selegilin, that's defranil. It's an anti-aging compound from the 70s, it was known. It's a drug. But yeah, you just have to take the good from everything. Absolutely. But peptide, it's another tool, but it's a very potent one. Yeah. Many times it becomes the cement. You will take things and they're like the bricks,
01:30:44
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You need to repair and suddenly you throw in BPC 157 and it's going to be the cement that's going to make everything work.
01:30:53
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Yeah, it's like I was talking to someone yesterday about, he just ordered some nicotinamide mononucleotide, you know, NMN, and I told him, but you take creatine. And he's like, no. Well, peptides and these kind of NAD things, if you're not taking B vitamins, the minerals, if you're not eating an organic diet, you know, looking after your sleep, you know, fitness, you're kind of adding them
01:31:19
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When there's no foundation a little bit exactly and if you have underlying conditions and i'm not talking disease if you have every metal toxicity which are known to block receptors.
01:31:34
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peptide receptors to, or if you're deficient in something, the peptide can send all the signal it wants. If the biochemical chain doesn't have all the vitamins because many minerals that are cofactors there, well, the signal is going to die and nothing will happen, or very little.
01:32:00
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It's part of a more complex thing, but I found peptides because I've been in everything. I got a shipment from Russia yesterday. Meldrenate I've got. Nice. Don't you know what that is? Well, it's meldonia. It's one of those Russian thing.
01:32:26
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you know, it's it's a complex thing. It's complex if you don't know much about it once you start to make the difference. And again, I don't want people to believe that they need to take like 30 pills. First thing in the morning, then 20 shots, it can be simplifies. And that's why I tried to do to maybe we could do another
01:32:48
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podcast, you know, going more into details of simplifying those protocols and why only this and why not all those things.
01:32:58
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If you want to, we can do another one on maybe like, I think what a lot of people will love is like an anti-aging how to talk more about anti-aging. That's the good thing about podcasts, I'm sure you'll get feedback. So just ask your listeners, Hey, which, what would you like us to talk about for the next bedtime? And then direct those questions. Yeah, I'd be happy to do that.
01:33:23
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Awesome. I love your attitude. I love how generous you are with your knowledge, with your time. And yeah, thank you. We'll certainly keep it in touch. Well, thanks to you, Obligado.
01:33:52
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