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Session 61 - Dual Season Winding Down + Can Minnesota Upset Iowa?
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The NCAA Wrestling Season is beginning to come to a close as we approach the post-season. We look at the few duals remaining as well as what this season can mean for the sport moving forward.
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Transcript
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Cokeley Brothers
Now we're live. All right.
Introduction and Special Guest
00:00:03
Cokeley Brothers
Welcome back to the barn session. Everybody. We have a a special guest, uh, whose name will not be revealed because we don't want to start their social footprint unless you want to.
00:00:16
Reese
Wow.
00:00:17
Cokeley Brothers
That's your, that's your call, Ryan.
Commentary Drama in University Sports
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Ryne
I mean, she's been posted on social media.
00:00:22
Reese
Yeah, she's already in the government.
00:00:22
Cokeley Brothers
Oh yeah.
00:00:23
Cokeley Brothers
Oh yeah.
00:00:24
Ryne
Her name is Lennon.
00:00:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Her name is Lennon.
00:00:26
Reese
She's a...
00:00:28
Cokeley Brothers
They stole, they stole. the name that I was going to give to my daughter and, and put it on their daughter.
00:00:37
Ryne
Yeah, Sammy also has claimed that he's probably not going to have kids, so.
00:00:37
Cokeley Brothers
So it's in the running.
00:00:42
Reese
Yeah, impotent.
00:00:44
Cokeley Brothers
It's in the right.
00:00:47
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:00:48
Ryne
That was mean.
00:00:49
Cokeley Brothers
No one hurt.
00:00:49
Ryne
All right. We'll be, we'll be right back.
00:00:49
Reese
Sorry, it was not true.
00:00:51
Ryne
You guys go ahead and get started.
00:00:52
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:00:53
Ryne
Why don't you guys start on, you guys can talk about the comment, the commentary drama because quite personally, I don't give a rat's ass.
00:01:02
Reese
Commentary?
00:01:02
Cokeley Brothers
Alright, I kind of figured.
00:01:02
Reese
Yeah, I don't care either.
00:01:04
Cokeley Brothers
Alright, well, we'll talk about it. It's fine. is this I kind of wanted to give my two cents, but it's alright.
00:01:08
Reese
Well, as a commentator, that is that why?
00:01:11
Cokeley Brothers
Well, yeah because I kind of had a little bit of a personal experience of of dealing with ah students brought in by the school to do
00:01:19
Reese
So whose side are you on? Don't say you're neutral.
00:01:22
Cokeley Brothers
I think, no, I think Willie did a really good, ah did a good job of explaining where there are pitfalls within the university. ah And oh he's coming back. he He needs to put his two cents in.
00:01:32
Ryne
I just want to say this, I don't care because every duel I watch, I watch on mute.
00:01:39
Reese
Good for you.
00:01:42
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know if that's, I don't i don't think that's a good thing, but, but, um, basically Basically, the things that things that need to happen, and this shouldn't be difficult, especially for a school like Penn State, is you need to have people who know the sport, commentating for it.
00:01:55
Cokeley Brothers
Um, and if, and if that means that you're putting, uh, students who have never watched the sport before and you're putting them in that position, then you need to, you need to prep them. That's, that's the job of, of the university. If it's the SID or whatever member of the media production, uh, they need to get them and ah on board and and up to speed debriefed on what the sport is like and what they're about to be in for terminology and all of that. Um,
00:02:20
Cokeley Brothers
I know when I was, when I did the commentary for the year that I wasn't wrestling at Indiana, um, our SID just kind of sat, sat us down.
00:02:27
Reese
Oh breaking news Crystal said 2011 I should have stuck with 2011 They look the same between like two and five they never they don't really look that different Yeah, they yeah, they what they aren't it they can already work All
00:02:27
Cokeley Brothers
I was like, yeah, you're going to be doing, you're going to be doing common. What dude, there's no way Milo's that young, but he's standing at a year old.
00:02:48
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. I don't know how, but I don't, know I don't know how babies work. I don't know how babies work. Let's, let's get back to wrestling.
00:02:52
Reese
right
00:02:53
Cokeley Brothers
Um, but good, good job.
00:02:54
Reese
I wish Ryan was here so badly. Do I wish he was here right now?
00:02:57
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. But so like whenever, whenever I was doing commentary, the, the SID basically just sat us down and was like, yeah, you're going to be doing commentary for this duel, uh, to introduce yourselves. And then that's it. Right. Rather than saying like, like I had to, I had to print out sheets for them in terms of what to call certain things. Like whenever, whenever the ref holds up this, that's a take down typically. Right. And so, uh, that should be something that like Joe Kenya said it was an opportunity.
00:03:26
Cokeley Brothers
basically for for schools. and And yeah, there should be a massive opportunity to have entertaining commentary so that you don't have you know people who have to mute the duels or they just don't watch it because they don't like the commentary.
00:03:37
Cokeley Brothers
um As Shane Sparks suggested, if you don't like it, then don't watch it.
00:03:41
Reese
Yeah, that was a lame response.
00:03:43
Cokeley Brothers
It was spiteful.
00:03:45
Reese
It was like, uh, howdy, patent, patent chain.
00:03:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah, didn't I didn't. I didn't really understand that, but, but yeah, that that's my two cents on it. And we don't we don't have to talk about it too much. So, um, beat beat into the ground.
00:03:58
Reese
Yeah, it's been freaking talk to death.
00:04:02
Cokeley Brothers
No. Yes, it has.
00:04:04
Reese
Obviously stupid. I mean, obviously like, you know, like poor job, poor job on their part on Penn State's part.
00:04:10
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. It's, it's weird that Penn State would do a poor job. You would think that the, that state college would have, would be ripe with, with.
00:04:18
Reese
yeah And just have it should be better prepared to you know, I think that's obviously the main takeaway is like for preparation people are upset about what bash said and really I
00:04:23
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:04:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Um, and then people getting upset about people about like, like William bash making comments about it. It's grow up. Just, just read between the lines. You understand what they want.
00:04:37
Cokeley Brothers
They obviously don't think that this commentator is a terrible person, blah, blah, blah. Like it's fine.
00:04:44
Cokeley Brothers
The people, the people that were, the people that were like bashing them for, for or putting their opinion out there.
00:04:49
Reese
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Yeah.
00:04:52
Cokeley Brothers
I was like, I was like,
00:04:52
Reese
He literally just said these announcers got to go. Okay. Okay. Like, yeah, it's just a, it's a figure speech, figure speech.
00:04:55
Cokeley Brothers
And maybe they don't have to go, but that he's just showing that they're not good. Yeah, so. um Yeah, so where where do you
Upcoming Wrestling Matches and Lineup Changes
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Cokeley Brothers
want to go from here?
00:05:07
Cokeley Brothers
We got the flow card got finalized today, and I mean, maybe there will be some last minute dropouts or something like that or ah changes, but um we already know that Aaron Brooks isn't going to wrestle and what the card looks like with that.
00:05:19
Reese
I didn't know that.
00:05:21
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah, he ah I mean, when he dropped out of wrestling at the Zagreb, I kind of figured that there was going to be something there. And I believe I believe Bash alluded to the idea that it was a health thing. And so maybe he's hurt. Maybe just dealing with weight is a thing for him. I don't know.
00:05:39
Cokeley Brothers
Um, but he's not wrestling in it. Uh, in place of him, Zahid is going to wrestle Trent Heidley and Trent Heidley was supposed to wrestle Nate Jackson. So in place of Trent, it is Kennedy Monday, which is interesting.
00:05:52
Cokeley Brothers
So, um, not, I don't think necessarily super exciting, at least for now.
00:05:52
Reese
That is interesting.
00:06:01
Cokeley Brothers
Um, but there's plenty of, plenty of matches in this duel to look forward to. Um, So I'm going to go through it real quick. Uh, there's some, there's some, uh, high school or, or, yeah or, uh, age, age group level matches, cruiser Dominguez versus Hayden Schwab.
00:06:22
Cokeley Brothers
Abdi, Abdi only verse Alexander Pierce.
00:06:24
Reese
Isn't that an Omaha kid? Omaha cruiser Dominguez?
00:06:29
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe. Oh, is it, is it Zach's Zach Dominguez?
00:06:30
Reese
He's a Nebraska kid.
00:06:35
Reese
Oh, I don't know. Who's that?
00:06:36
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe. That's the, the MWC guy in Nebraska.
00:06:42
Reese
MWC?
00:06:43
Cokeley Brothers
Zach Dominguez. Big, big Nebraska guy. You know, you'd know him if you saw him.
00:06:49
Reese
Sounds familiar.
00:06:49
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, yeah. Uh, Riley Johnson versus Lincoln Jip.
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Reese
right
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Cokeley Brothers
And then, then we get into the senior level. Nate Thomas Sello versus Daniel DeShazier. I guess, did Thomas Sello wrestle last year? I can't, I can't figure out if he's ever like done wrestling or not. And I guess he'll be done when he's done.
00:07:08
Cokeley Brothers
ah So that'll be that'll be an entertaining matchup. Marcus Coleman versus J.I. Yellow. That's a weird one, but still interesting. I don't know how to say her first name, so I'm just going to say her last name. Moda Pettis versus Melanie Naomi. Amanda Martinez versus Zeldsen Hernandez, Nate Jackson, Kennedy Monday, Austin DeSanto, Seth Gross, Bryce Andonian, Austin Gomez, Saheed Valencia, Trent Heidley, and then David Carr, Daichi Takatani, and Spencer Lee versus Masandosuke Ono.
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Cokeley Brothers
So those are all the names.
00:07:47
Reese
You've got all the names. Those are all the names for all you listening.
00:07:52
Cokeley Brothers
And I don't know, do you want to go through and pick some of them?
00:07:56
Reese
What is it?
00:07:56
Cokeley Brothers
What do you want to do? This is February 26th. So we got time. If you want to pick later, especially if there's going to be changes, we'll pick later, but that's the announced card.
00:08:01
Reese
Yeah, I'll pick later. It's got two full weeks.
00:08:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. That's the, that's the announced card. We'll see what we get. We'll see what happens. Um, you know, you want to look at some upcoming duels.
00:08:16
Cokeley Brothers
What do you want to do?
00:08:17
Reese
Uh, let's go review first to review these doors.
00:08:22
Cokeley Brothers
You want to review some tools. Okay.
00:08:24
Reese
Well, what are upcoming doors?
00:08:25
Cokeley Brothers
Uh,
00:08:25
Reese
Oh, Minnesota, Iowa. That's a good one.
Recent Match Results and Analysis
00:08:28
Reese
That's it.
00:08:28
Cokeley Brothers
We got Minnesota, Iowa, Penn State, Ohio State, Northern Iowa, Iowa State.
00:08:31
Reese
Oh yeah. Okay. Okay.
00:08:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:08:35
Reese
That's pretty hot.
00:08:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. But we can, we can look back on, uh, some of these duels from last week. I don't know which one, but Nebraska, Iowa, that one was actually pretty, pretty great.
00:08:45
Reese
Yeah, Minnesota, Ohio State. I started watching that. Then I got sleepy earlier today. So I didn't get to watch much of it.
00:08:55
Cokeley Brothers
Well, you were watching it today and then you started getting sleepy.
00:08:59
Reese
Yep.
00:09:00
Cokeley Brothers
Interesting.
00:09:00
Reese
I started getting sleepy, so I was like, ah, don't worry.
00:09:03
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:09:03
Reese
It was putting me to sleep.
00:09:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So, so Iowa, and Nebraska wrestled, Iowa came away with the 1916 win, uh, scraped by, uh, but they were, there were some upsets, some interesting matches in here.
00:09:17
Cokeley Brothers
Um, Caleb Smith over Joey Cruz, Drake Ayala over Jacob Van D. Brock Hardy over Colin Shriver and then Kyle Parko over Ridge. Love it. And I think this is where maybe we need to take a break. And Reese, you need to reflect on some feelings.
00:09:35
Reese
I'm just I just need Ryan to take the L right now. That's where I'm at right now Well, okay, uh, dude, all right, let me let me just were you talking about Nebraska Iowa Yeah, that was a great duel Cornhuskers showed up would have been their first win in in Carver and what like 50 years That's I think what I heard was like in the 70s was the last time they wanted Carver
00:09:40
Cokeley Brothers
OK, so you.
00:09:48
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:09:59
Cokeley Brothers
Seriously?
00:10:05
Reese
So it would've been awesome.
00:10:05
Cokeley Brothers
Wow.
00:10:06
Reese
It would've been a historic, historic moment for everybody. The, uh, you know, the team showed up except for really, except for one guy, their team captain, senior Ridge Lovett, which, you know, big Ridge Lovett fan here, but damn dude, you really, I don't know what, what goes on with him sometimes, but the lack of offense and just the lack of urgency is really frustrating.
00:10:32
Reese
And I mean, yeah. Like you're the team captain the rest of your team showed up and showed out Got dubs when they needed to get them and you just kind of you were You were in a position to win that match with over a minute left You had a stall call kind of given to you Like, you know given to parko like it was and it was pretty questionable whether or not they should have hit parko for stalling there All you gotta do is push the pace.
00:11:01
Reese
Push the pace, you'll push it into overtime and then you gotta, you know, then it's it's back to 50-50. But, I mean, I think he took, he like took maybe one or two shots up until the last 15 or 20 seconds.
00:11:15
Reese
And I just don't get it, dude. I don't know what I'm missing.
00:11:17
Ryne
Did he get Harvard?
00:11:19
Reese
He might have gotten Carver. That might be what it what it really boiled down to. But he was the only one.
00:11:23
Ryne
I wasn't sure if he would if he did or didn't. i was That was an honest question.
00:11:26
Reese
I don't know. Your guess is, good did you watch the match?
00:11:30
Ryne
Yeah, I watched the match, but I was like, I'm kind of with you. I was like, man, he might it it might have been he might have been affected by the crowd. He might not have been.
00:11:38
Reese
Might have been, yeah, but I still just don't, I just don't get the the waiting to like attack. I just don't understand it.
00:11:45
Ryne
I'll tell you what it was. and even though and this is gonna go against what I just said about how I listened to duels on mute because I was actually was listening to the to the commentators on this duel and they were talking about how good parko was upper body not parko excuse me love it they're talking about how good love it was upper body and then he got taken down in an upper body they
00:12:00
Reese
Dude, Ridge, yeah.
00:12:06
Reese
In an upper body, right.
00:12:06
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, he he got bullied in the hooks. What's up with that?
00:12:10
Ryne
jinxed him
00:12:10
Reese
I mean, he was in the, he got to his double unders too, but yeah, to give up that body lock, it was just so uncharacteristic. This is a guy who's gone, I mean, yeah.
00:12:21
Ryne
I thought he was going to get foot swept. I was like, oh my God, he he yeah and then he didn't, but then he got taken down.
00:12:27
Reese
And then he still got taken down in like, like he this guy has gone like toe-to-toe with Austin Gomez like at least twice, I think Recently, I think Austin did bomb him one time but Last year he beat Austin in those in the in that Austin I would think is a better upper body guy than parko.
00:12:40
Cokeley Brothers
But even still.
00:12:47
Reese
Maybe not. Maybe parko is is that good?
00:12:49
Cokeley Brothers
He's got a hidden talent.
00:12:51
Reese
Yeah, but I mean van Ness is beaten parko in the upper body like I just ridges a what like three four time a Fargo Greco champ. It's kind of mind blowing.
00:13:00
Cokeley Brothers
but did Yeah, I mean, he's he's he should be like pretty well seasoned in the upper body and comfortable there, too.
00:13:00
Ryne
Yeah.
00:13:04
Reese
Yeah.
00:13:07
Cokeley Brothers
So I don't.
00:13:09
Reese
It's weird.
00:13:09
Cokeley Brothers
It was, it was weird to to see in like, right.
00:13:11
Reese
And upsetting because that would have just been, I don't know, you know, I would have liked to have witnessed history.
00:13:19
Cokeley Brothers
That would have been, that would have been the duel. That would have been good. Um, yeah, that was, that was basically the match that flipped at all, but it, it, it's not without it. This duel still had upsets in favor of Nebraska that led to it to be this close and that that happened.
00:13:33
Reese
Oh, for that's for sure.
00:13:34
Ryne
I mean, they still, they still could have won the duel with, you know, but they're, they're 97 and in heavyweight kind of, you know.
00:13:34
Reese
That's one. Yeah, that's like
00:13:42
Reese
yeah but that was I mean the 97 match sure but the heavyweight match like I don't know They would have had to gone back-to-back decisions or I guess a major in the decision and then it goes to tiebreakers but still like oh Yeah, probably
00:13:52
Ryne
and And I think tiebreakers, because of the Pinto match, right?
00:13:56
Cokeley Brothers
Which.
00:13:59
Ryne
They would have went to match points.
00:14:02
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it it it goes down to the difference in points.
00:14:05
Reese
McDaniel he's a wretched freshman ah going against a six fifth fifth or six-year guy number one right guy on the country Yeah, I mean ah can you blame got he got datted
00:14:09
Cokeley Brothers
To. Do that.
00:14:12
Ryne
chair He got carvered.
00:14:14
Cokeley Brothers
I was getting I was getting told by some some.
00:14:21
Ryne
No, i no i don't I was just saying that was like, I mean, just totally, yeah you know, it was i it was like much like watching Brett Metcalf.
00:14:21
Cokeley Brothers
I was getting told by some.
00:14:27
Cokeley Brothers
That was brutal.
00:14:32
Ryne
not you know That's what it reminded me of.
00:14:35
Cokeley Brothers
It was it was
00:14:36
Ryne
Brett Metcalf was great at like, keep pushing the head down, running out front and brands and dudes.
00:14:41
Reese
Yeah.
00:14:42
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it was, it was so bad that I had, I had high schoolers that were like, this guy's a D one wrestler. Like, like his, his, pace his baseline defenses is terrible.
00:14:49
Reese
Freaking high schoolers always say shit like that.
00:14:51
Ryne
and and
00:14:53
Cokeley Brothers
I'm like, wow. Like, whoa. He first saw he's, he's, he's, he's a world medalist.
00:14:56
Ryne
These guys these guys also probably think that mugs he's probably d1 too look on his face was like I let my team down
00:14:56
Cokeley Brothers
He's good. He's yeah, yeah I guess. But, but it was, it, but it was also a testament to the way that Buchanan was, was breaking him.
00:15:07
Cokeley Brothers
Cause he was.
00:15:08
Reese
Yeah.
00:15:09
Cokeley Brothers
he was He was doing some mean things, but ah let's let's run through the rest of this duel.
00:15:15
Ryne
Boop!
00:15:17
Cokeley Brothers
Entrell Taylor over Miguel Estrada. Caliendo took out Chris Minto. It was a 5-1 match. Minto kept it close. um So that was interesting to see.
00:15:28
Cokeley Brothers
ah Lenny Pinto beats Patrick Kennedy and in an 18-11 match. Super fun. Love that. And then Silas all read, beat Gabe Arnold in sudden victory, Buchanan pins, Camden McDaniel and Ben Keeter majors, Harley Andrews.
00:15:46
Cokeley Brothers
There's a little bit of controversy and in the initial scoring exchange between Keeter and Andrews, but I think it all played out the way it was going to play out anyway, so.
00:15:54
Ryne
Well, if they, I don't know if, if they would have given that takedown to Harley right to the reversal, it would have ended in a decision and not a major, but I would like.
00:16:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ah Another thing that could have happened was, uh, Pinto probably had Kennedy pinned.
00:16:14
Ryne
I don't know.
00:16:17
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. I mean, especially, ah especially in Iowa, like at Iowa, probably not going to get that call Nebraska.
00:16:18
Ryne
i am
00:16:23
Ryne
Yeah.
00:16:24
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe I've seen faster pins.
00:16:25
Ryne
I don't know. I'd have to go back and watch it. I would just like to say that Kennedy blew that much because he had it, like, he had come back and he put himself in a position to definitely win.
00:16:33
Cokeley Brothers
He's coming back.
00:16:34
Reese
Well, Pinto kind of blew it in the first period too.
00:16:37
Ryne
And then, yeah, well, that's what I mean.
00:16:38
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:16:39
Ryne
That's what I mean by Kennedy blew it because he didn't have that third period. You had to do gas and, and you know what? Kudos to Manning and, and co, like, Beautiful brick play there.
00:16:52
Ryne
knew Knew that they probably weren't going to win that challenge, even though they didn't even get challenge, but like, you know, get, got Pinto some air back. And, but Kennedy dude, he just like, he relaxed, especially in that last sequence where he just kind of like let Pinto drive back up and blow through.
00:17:00
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:17:10
Ryne
I'm like, dude, push his head down, get your hips back and fricking wrestle. Don't quit wrestling.
00:17:17
Ryne
So.
00:17:17
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that that ah it it felt like it felt like that was a match that Patrick Kennedy is typically poised to win.
00:17:24
Ryne
yeah
00:17:25
Cokeley Brothers
And.
00:17:25
Reese
Yeah, I thought it was over. Honestly, I didn't even see the last sequence because I was like, oh, after literally after Kennedy got the score back, tied back up in the first period, I stopped watching.
00:17:29
Cokeley Brothers
I.
00:17:35
Reese
I was like, oh, Kennedy's going to win this.
00:17:35
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Well, I I was I was watching it, but I turned my back at the end of the third period because I was like, this this match is like this is we're done here.
00:17:43
Ryne
Yeah. Yeah, it's going to overtime. Candy's getting the takedown. And then all of a sudden, and then all of a sudden yeah, he's back on his back again.
00:17:47
Cokeley Brothers
And then I.
00:17:51
Ryne
I was like, oh my, no!
00:17:54
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:17:55
Ryne
No, you fool.
00:17:56
Cokeley Brothers
Here, here's. So here's a question that I have for you. Looking at the next match in that duel, uh, gay Barnold, just to like totally stifled from, from an offensive
Debate on Wrestling Lineups and Strategies
00:18:08
Cokeley Brothers
perspective.
00:18:08
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, I think we'll see with the match that he's got this weekend with, with McInnelly. Um, I think we're kind of.
00:18:19
Ryne
I think they're going to go with Angelo.
00:18:21
Cokeley Brothers
I think we're at the point where it's like he unequivocally, I think, well, they're going to hold on to Angelo.
00:18:22
Reese
Yeah.
00:18:25
Ryne
i At least for this duel.
00:18:27
Cokeley Brothers
They've said they, Oh, he's got, I don't think they're doing it for this one though.
00:18:27
Reese
Well, he's got another match, doesn't he?
00:18:29
Ryne
He's got one more, I believe.
00:18:30
Reese
Yeah.
00:18:33
Reese
What were they doing?
00:18:34
Cokeley Brothers
Cause they listed the probables.
00:18:35
Reese
What was the other?
00:18:36
Cokeley Brothers
They listed the probables and I don't think he was on him.
00:18:38
Reese
Who were they? Oh.
00:18:40
Ryne
Yeah, it's a surprise.
00:18:41
Reese
Who else would they use them for?
00:18:44
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, they don't do that. They don't do a Oklahoma state. Do they?
00:18:46
Ryne
They do, yes, every year.
00:18:47
Reese
Oh, they do do a local mistake.
00:18:48
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. So plot plot would be the other one then.
00:18:50
Reese
Wow, that makes sense.
00:18:52
Ryne
It makes more sense.
00:18:52
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. That's given that, given that tough, tough competition.
00:18:53
Ryne
I mean, I guess. I don't know.
00:18:56
Cokeley Brothers
So that's yeah.
00:18:57
Ryne
Yes.
00:18:57
Reese
And, you know, they're probably the dual probably be like, well, I don't know.
00:19:00
Ryne
Or put him against the other freshmen that Angelo is going to be competing against for the next three to four years.
00:19:00
Reese
The door is going to be tough with Minnesota too.
00:19:06
Reese
he' gonna see That Well, I could work against Angela.
00:19:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:12
Reese
People are always like, get a, get a, I mean, I don't know.
00:19:13
Ryne
It makes more would make more sense to wrestle Angelo against McAnally and Gabe Arnold against Platt.
00:19:14
Reese
It works both ways.
00:19:24
Reese
Why?
00:19:25
Ryne
because Gabe Arnold need will need to have to we'll probably have to wrestle plot again at NCAA's. And so why not give it to me?
00:19:33
Reese
but He's wrestled plot before And it was a there's like a couple thick downs
00:19:37
Ryne
Oh, I guess that last year's duel, huh? I forgot about that.
00:19:42
Ryne
But I don't know.
00:19:45
Ryne
I remember. All right, I'll be right back. This one's getting fussy.
00:19:49
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Um, yeah, I mean, that's, that's an interesting dilemma. They're, they're going to hold on, they're going to hold on to Angelo because they want him to have the opportunity to be a four timer. Uh, and it is exceedingly difficult with. Storachi Kekai is in a plot and they go away and you still have McInnelly and Berge and whoever else is going to be coming up the pipeline. So, but easier next year than it is this year, for sure.
00:20:19
Cokeley Brothers
So that was that duel. We also have Minnesota, Ohio state. Uh, and then I want to, I just want to touch on what happened with Michigan Penn state. Uh, but Minnesota, Ohio state was a phenomenal duel with a couple of, uh, at least one really dumb take coming out of it, but um As I'm pulling it up here, there were, there were a couple of, um, notable results here. So Cooper, uh, Brenda McCrone majors, Cooper Flynn, Ben Devino beats Tyler Wells and tie breakers. Jesse Mendez goes to the brink with Vance Von Bar and beats him six to five. Uh, but that's the most human we've seen Jesse Mendez look.
00:21:14
Cokeley Brothers
in in just about a year. So that was interesting to see from from a guy like Vance. Does it I don't know what what do you what do you measure here?
00:21:24
Reese
I didn't get to see the match. and needed and that's what I was needed to watch that match today and I didn't do it.
00:21:29
Cokeley Brothers
So what ah what I've heard, because I also have not seen it, right?
00:21:31
Reese
I heard it was all over him.
00:21:34
Cokeley Brothers
Vance Von Bar was on Jesse Mendez like a dog on a bone. ah But so do do you say Is this exposing Jesse Mendez and in one way, or is this saying Tyler Wells is, is, or Vance Vaughn bar is really good.
00:21:46
Reese
i think it's I think it's more so bringing Jesse back down to earth a little bit.
00:21:53
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Okay. Yeah.
00:21:56
Reese
Yeah, I mean he cuz he's he's had close he had some close matches, uh, actually kelby didn't he?
00:21:57
Cokeley Brothers
I don't, I don't disagree with that.
00:22:03
Reese
Uh, cklv like wasn't uh Trying to think like coder he had a decent match with him, right?
00:22:04
Cokeley Brothers
Um,
00:22:10
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it was 8-6 against Coderhant, 5-1 against Latona, 5-2 against Jamison.
00:22:14
Reese
Okay Right
00:22:16
Cokeley Brothers
So you're not wrong. You're not wrong. Dude, he had a 5-0 match with Jaden Scott from North Carolina. He's still you know handling people aside from you could say Coderhant.
00:22:33
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:22:34
Reese
Yeah.
00:22:35
Cokeley Brothers
eight So eight, eight, six, if a person scores six points on you. There's a little bit of, there's some question marks around that, but yeah, I think, I think Jesse Mendez go ahead.
00:22:41
Reese
And that's a guy, that's a guy who's also beat Vance Vombar, so it's interesting.
00:22:47
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Yeah. Coder hand is going to be coder hand and Brock Hardy. I think are in Jamison. That's your, that's your second tier. And I guess maybe Vombar, but yeah.
00:22:58
Reese
You gotta throw Vombar in there. I mean, I'm putting Brock Hardy in tier one, honestly. He's in my tier one.
00:23:06
Cokeley Brothers
Well, okay. Well, what about kale Apple?
00:23:08
Reese
No, Kayle does not get to be in tier one.
00:23:10
Cokeley Brothers
Because he just, because he, because he loses the guys like, like Julian tag.
00:23:13
Reese
Because he does not have, he he has zero wins over the top three. Brock Hardy has one, at least. And a third place finish at NCAA's.
00:23:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right.
00:23:27
Reese
Went over real woods.
00:23:27
Cokeley Brothers
Um,
00:23:28
Reese
He's got a woods in a Bartlett wind. That's those are pretty pretty high quality woods I don't think anybody else can say they can claim those kind of woods even I mean Bo Bartlett.
00:23:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:23:37
Reese
Did he ever be real?
00:23:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yes.
00:23:42
Reese
Did he beat him last year Who beat real last year I guess in the was it it was McNeil wasn't it?
00:23:43
Cokeley Brothers
I'm pretty sure he did me. Let me let me hold that up. ah McNeil beat him.
00:23:52
Reese
Yeah
00:23:53
Cokeley Brothers
Hang on, hang on. I'm pulling up real woods right now. Real Woods lost a lock on McNeil and Brock Hardy and CA is he lost to Jesse Mendez, Bo Bartlett in the dual seven to got majored by Sergio Lemley those for his losses last year.
00:24:02
Reese
oh Oh, that's right, he got made in by Sergio. Well, never mind then.
00:24:07
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, Serge, Serge, Serge smashed him in that match.
00:24:11
Reese
Yeah, should have been pinned.
00:24:13
Cokeley Brothers
It was freaky. But but yeah, I mean, Kyle Hapels, I don't disagree with that sentiment. He just, I mean, he lost, he lost ah and to two weeks ago, three weeks ago to Mosher Schwartz.
00:24:27
Cokeley Brothers
So, so ah but he's able to, tell tier two, maybe, maybe tier three.
00:24:29
Reese
Yeah. Kills a tier 2, yeah, for sure. I put up a tier 2. Yeah.
00:24:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So, okay. Um, we were on Minnesota, Ohio state. D'Amelio takes out Drew Roberts, ASCII over cannon, Brandon Cannon.
00:24:49
Cokeley Brothers
That's a, that's the guy to keep an, keep an eye on you. You guys have told me before that, that I need to know about this guy. So, um, he's 13 and two this year. He's, he's lost to ASCII and.
00:24:58
Reese
He's a wet Colorado school.
00:24:58
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:25:00
Reese
Did he go to Pomona? No, maybe Brunswick. Let's look at that.
00:25:08
Cokeley Brothers
I'm doing that for you right now.
00:25:09
Reese
Okay.
00:25:10
Cokeley Brothers
He is.
00:25:14
Cokeley Brothers
ah Ponderosa.
00:25:16
Reese
Ponderosa is a Ponderosa kid.
00:25:17
Cokeley Brothers
Wow, he does not. He does not look like.
00:25:23
Cokeley Brothers
ah I don't know what to I don't know how to describe him.
00:25:26
Reese
Without sounding racist I Don't know what he looks like let's look at it.
00:25:28
Cokeley Brothers
No, that's not the problem that I was going to deal with. I think I didn't I just didn't want to be an asshole. He just doesn't look like your typical wrestler, I guess. He looks like he would be in a garage band, I guess, is how I see it.
00:25:44
Reese
Let's take a look
00:25:45
Cokeley Brothers
While he's looking that up, Sparks teched Brock Herman. Brock Herman's had a little bit of a rough go at 165. ah Carson Hartschler beats Clayton Whiting, Mackanelli over Rogotsky, Salazar over Shumate, and then Gable Steveson beats Nick Feldman.
00:26:01
Cokeley Brothers
He majors him 13 to 4, but ah so many people are like, finally, Gable Steveson gi is given a challenge. he He's being tested. It's 13 to 4, dude.
00:26:14
Cokeley Brothers
Now, if you watch the match,
00:26:14
Reese
It's something. It's hope.
00:26:17
Cokeley Brothers
I guess, but but if you watch the match, they're both doing superhuman things that you should just not see at at the heavyweight weight wait class. You just shouldn't see it. um But I i mean, 13 to four, is it's it's a beating.
00:26:35
Ryne
Do you think Kirk, do you think Kirk can keep it to a decision or with seven point three counts?
00:26:36
Cokeley Brothers
it's
00:26:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:26:40
Ryne
Maybe not.
00:26:42
Cokeley Brothers
with with three-point takedowns?
00:26:43
Ryne
That's what I meant with three point eight.
00:26:44
Reese
Yes.
00:26:45
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Seven-point takedowns would be really hard to keep it to a decision.
00:26:47
Ryne
I meant seven point moves, but three three point eight counts.
00:26:51
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I think, I think Kirk for sure can. I think he can keep it to a two takedown match, 100%.
00:26:55
Ryne
I think and I mean, you guys feel free to disagree with me. Call me crazy, but I think Kirk might be the only guy that might be able to keep it to a decision, but I feel that Wyatt is the only one that could maybe beat him.
00:27:11
Cokeley Brothers
Defense versus ah offense is what you're saying.
00:27:14
Ryne
I'm saying Wyatt could maybe put him on his back and hold him there and pin him. I'm thinking that's the only hope we anyone's got.
00:27:22
Cokeley Brothers
That's the path.
00:27:22
Reese
I haven't seen it yet, so I'm not gonna bet on it.
00:27:25
Ryne
Yeah. um' Oh, trust me.
00:27:25
Cokeley Brothers
That's the path.
00:27:26
Ryne
Trust me. Would not bet on it. I just think that if anyone can, it's our boy.
00:27:32
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that would be, I don't know.
00:27:32
Reese
He is our boy.
00:27:35
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know what the proper reaction would be there other than to, I don't know, explode.
00:27:40
Ryne
I would be ecstatic for Wyatt.
00:27:43
Cokeley Brothers
Right. and No, I'm just I'm like, if I witness that, how do I how do I? I don't I don't know what to do. I don't know. I don't know what to do with my hands.
00:27:54
Ryne
You celebrate, you throw him up in the air.
00:27:55
Cokeley Brothers
So like. Yeah.
00:27:58
Ryne
You say, yes, yes, yes, he was on our podcast, yes, that's what you do.
00:28:05
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, I agree. OK. So that was that duel. I said, I wanted to get to Michigan Penn State. when And there's a little bit there, uh, with, with Josh Barr taken out Jacob Cardenas, he's shown that I think, I think Josh Barr should be considered a contender for the title, but the front runner is still definitely Buchanan.
00:28:29
Cokeley Brothers
Um, but with, I think it's Buchanan and then Ferrari and Barr Cardenas, that's still, Cardenas, you know, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
00:28:39
Ryne
you don't think you don't think ferrari You don't think Ferrari's in Buchanan's tier?
00:28:44
Reese
Yeah, well, how can you say Ferrari is not a beacon steer?
00:28:46
Cokeley Brothers
Because he yeah because he just hasn't shown it yet is the problem in my mind.
00:28:49
Reese
This just feels it feels eerily like Ferrari I Don't know dude What do you don't feel that you don't feel it You don't feel like Ferrari is gonna just show up and win in a very
00:28:49
Cokeley Brothers
Like I there's too much unknown.
00:28:51
Ryne
Don't say it. Stop. Quit saying it, race. Quit. Quit. know Enough of you.
00:29:00
Cokeley Brothers
I feel what?
00:29:02
Ryne
i don't um No, I refuse. um I block those feelings.
00:29:07
Cokeley Brothers
What are you guys?
00:29:12
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:29:15
Cokeley Brothers
I'm going to be disappointed if it happens.
00:29:17
Ryne
I am inevitable. No!
00:29:19
Reese
Yeah.
00:29:19
Cokeley Brothers
But. But. It could definitely happen is the thing, so.
00:29:25
Reese
I'm just thinking about like, I mean, with these 97 guys, you really don't have to do a lot to beat a lot of these guys. I'd say Steven Buchanan is one guy maybe who, who is not that case, but like everybody else, like you don't have to do that much to get it a win.
00:29:32
Cokeley Brothers
I think you're. Yeah. Yeah, I totally get where you're coming from with that. Ryan, what are you doing? Are you OK over there?
00:29:45
Ryne
I'm sorry, I was, I was replying to, uh, the picture dad just sent us.
00:29:49
Reese
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so, uh, Ryan.
00:29:50
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:29:51
Ryne
Mm-hmm.
00:29:52
Cokeley Brothers
Oh yeah.
00:29:53
Reese
Suck it, dude.
00:29:54
Ryne
Dude, there's, there, she's wrong.
00:29:54
Reese
formerly Formally. Formally, suck it.
00:29:56
Ryne
She's wrong.
00:29:57
Reese
Yeah, classic. If she had said 2015, you would've said she's right.
00:29:59
Ryne
Dude, look at these other pictures I found with actual dates of 2011.
00:30:03
Reese
Dude, they, the little kids, they look the same between two and five years old, alright?
00:30:03
Ryne
You can't tell me.
00:30:08
Reese
They don't, you can't tell the difference between a two and a five year old.
00:30:08
Ryne
Wrong. Wrong.
00:30:10
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:30:11
Ryne
Wrong.
00:30:12
Cokeley Brothers
For, for context, we found, uh,
00:30:13
Reese
Well, she said 2011.
00:30:15
Cokeley Brothers
We found a Christmas photo from our sister's family and we're debating what year it's from. because we don't I still don't believe that it's a real, I think it's brought in from a different reality.
00:30:24
Reese
and and you know what's you know what's really known look dude
00:30:28
Ryne
Go to the photo of them, of the three of them sitting down holding Cooper when Cooper was born. A month after Cooper was born.
00:30:34
Reese
you know look at look at the way Jeff is dressed that is not 2015 attire that is early 20 I swear I promise you I'm not wrong what dude he's he has he's got like this shirt the white shirt underneath the
00:30:40
Ryne
Oh shut up, shut up.
00:30:43
Cokeley Brothers
No, he's not wrong. He's not wrong.
00:30:52
Reese
um no it's not even white he's got an orange shirt underneath his his you know formal tee and he's got the those jeans bro no no it's not 2015 you look at some 2014 that's it that that Milo right there he could be two years old he could he could be two years old period
00:31:05
Ryne
I'm not saying it's 2015. I will admit that I was wrong there, but it's definitely not 2011.
00:31:08
Cokeley Brothers
I'm going to it's got to be like 12 or 13. It's gotta be 12 or 13.
00:31:20
Ryne
yeah He was not that big.
00:31:21
Cokeley Brothers
Period.
00:31:21
Reese
I rest my case.
00:31:25
Reese
In fact, he would have been two years old.
00:31:25
Cokeley Brothers
Period.
00:31:26
Reese
He would have been two years old because this is Christmas. This is Christmas time of 2011.
00:31:31
Cokeley Brothers
All right, let's let's let's circle back to the to the rest and real quick. Uh, that was Penn State, Michigan. I want to talk about Penn State, Maryland with a single, a single match in particular.
00:31:44
Cokeley Brothers
And that's Ethan Miller winning by injury default over Tyler Kasich.
00:31:52
Cokeley Brothers
How do we feel about Tyler Kasich?
00:31:52
Ryne
Yeah, he'll be right.
00:31:54
Reese
I think he'll be he'll be back. i Nobody's saying that he's not coming back. It feels like oh Was Myra Shapiro the same?
00:31:59
Ryne
Well, no, he's coming back, but will he be the same?
00:31:59
Cokeley Brothers
No, but when he. when it comes back is the I mean, but ah but also I think I think about the date being much shorter.
00:32:03
Ryne
I think about, I think about, an I think about Calica.
00:32:08
Reese
Kaka that's a different that's a different case He he choked let's be real he choked his senior year
00:32:11
Cokeley Brothers
What about Bergy?
00:32:12
Ryne
It was concussion. No, it's the same.
00:32:17
Ryne
No, he was they were saying that like he got concussed. I mean, he was not the same after his concussion. that's what they're that's That was the word.
00:32:25
Reese
Well, that's Oklahoma State is Penn State they got better better better trainers No, no, I'm saying that's Oklahoma.
00:32:28
Ryne
This is not Oklahoma State saying that. This was everybody saying that.
00:32:32
Cokeley Brothers
He's saying Calico is Oklahoma state.
00:32:32
Reese
I'm talking about the training staff Why I don't understand that
00:32:34
Ryne
Oh.
00:32:35
Cokeley Brothers
No, I, I think he's obviously going to come back and he's going to wrestle, but I, I am weary. I'm i'm less. I expect less out of him.
00:32:50
Cokeley Brothers
Cause it's dude, especially with the short turnaround time, it's hard to handle concussion.
00:32:56
Reese
You don't know that he got a concussion, though, is the thing.
00:32:56
Cokeley Brothers
It is.
00:33:01
Reese
What?
00:33:02
Ryne
It was not 2011.
00:33:04
Reese
Oh, was it? What year was it?
00:33:06
Cokeley Brothers
but
00:33:06
Ryne
2012.
00:33:08
Reese
Oh, that's what I said, 2012, so.
00:33:10
Ryne
No, you said 11. You said that could be a two year old Milo right there.
00:33:11
Reese
No, I did, I did. I said, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, please.
00:33:14
Cokeley Brothers
I don't. Hey, hey, hey. Let's I don't know. I don't remember. We'll review the tape.
00:33:19
Reese
I did.
00:33:20
Cokeley Brothers
We'll review the tape.
00:33:20
Reese
I said 2012. I would have said 2011, but you you were making me feel dumb for saying 2011, so I went to 2012.
00:33:26
Ryne
Well, good thing I did that.
00:33:28
Reese
Yeah, it is a good thing.
00:33:29
Cokeley Brothers
All right. Yeah. You know, what you guys both went.
00:33:35
Ryne
Oh.
00:33:35
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, no, but I mean, the way he fell down afterwards, it just kind of seemed.
00:33:37
Reese
Okay, wait, wait, wait. So, what we yeah, how do we know that it was a concussion?
00:33:46
Reese
It didn't look like he was concussed, it looked like he was like, oh shit, my face. That's when i that's what it looked like to me.
00:33:52
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. so So you had, you had the Iowa match where he, he had a, he had a rap because he, he gashed his eye, right? But it's still a hit to the head and then he had his match against Michigan, uh, with, with Matt and he, he had to take, I think he had to take injury time because of concussion or concussion protocol concussion protocol.
00:34:07
Ryne
No, he went into concussion protocol, not injury time.
00:34:11
Cokeley Brothers
Cause he hit his head here. He like, they both went for a shot at the same time.
00:34:13
Reese
Oh shit.
00:34:15
Cokeley Brothers
I think he, he hit his shoulder or something like that. um And then this happens, and I mean, it just it leads up to, I mean, why else would he stop?
00:34:26
Cokeley Brothers
I guess maybe he's got cracked orbital or something like that, maybe. But that's worse, that's a worse problem.
00:34:31
Ryne
So, yeah. That would be worse. He would have to, well, I mean, he would just have to compete with the face mats.
00:34:39
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yeah, and so then we would know.
00:34:39
Ryne
ah big and
00:34:41
Cokeley Brothers
yeah So so you you can you can look for two things. You can look for that that headgear. that Shapiro wears, um, or you can look for a face mask and then you'll know, or yeah he'll be wearing nothing and we'll say, okay, whatever.
00:34:48
Ryne
Is he past the point of no return for a Med Red?
00:34:55
Cokeley Brothers
Um, but yeah, for sure.
00:34:59
Ryne
Probably not.
00:34:59
Cokeley Brothers
He it's, you gotta, I think you can, you have to compete in less than 60% of, of the schedule.
00:35:05
Ryne
I was going to say 70.
00:35:07
Cokeley Brothers
Some, is one or the other.
00:35:07
Reese
You might, my take is it's a big nothing burger. Maybe I'll eat my words.
00:35:13
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. be But I feel like with Penn State, I feel like with Penn State, that's the case.
00:35:15
Reese
I love burgers.
00:35:16
Ryne
I agree that I think he's going to be fine by the time conference and nationals come around. My question is, is Facundo getting the the nod right now?
00:35:27
Ryne
No?
00:35:27
Cokeley Brothers
No, I listened to an interview.
00:35:28
Ryne
Can't make it.
00:35:29
Cokeley Brothers
I listened to an interview and Kale's like, Vikkondo, probably not. big I'm guessing he's big. I'm guessing he's not touching 57 ever again. um
00:35:38
Ryne
That's kind of what I also got.
00:35:38
Cokeley Brothers
But he he mentioned he mentioned like he mentioned that they have some good guys at 49 and some guys who have been great for the program like ah like David Evans, but also Joe Seeley is with them in Ohio State.
00:35:46
Ryne
David Evans. who That dude's gonna make 57?
00:35:51
Cokeley Brothers
So it could be Seeley. Yeah, yes. so Or he's or he's he's just practicing with them.
00:35:57
Ryne
He's pretty thick. He's thick, I'm sorry.
00:36:00
Cokeley Brothers
it's Right. But he's the the sign about that is that he's healthy because he was injured this year. So that's a good thing to see.
00:36:09
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, okay. So yeah, K sec there's maybe some questions, but here's the crazy thing, right? They could not wrestle anybody at one 57 and they're still like 30 points ahead of second place.
00:36:22
Cokeley Brothers
Just sucks.
00:36:23
Reese
What?
00:36:24
Ryne
He's saying that they could not take a 57 pounder and they would.
00:36:24
Cokeley Brothers
Like for the team race.
00:36:27
Reese
Oh, yeah.
00:36:28
Ryne
and
00:36:29
Cokeley Brothers
Right. That's insane. It's just crazy. Uh, Yeah, and so Ethan Miller, undefeated, and ah if he wrestles this weekend and beats Joey Blazer, doesn't wrestle, he's he's the number one seed at Big 10s, and that'll be interesting.
00:36:45
Cokeley Brothers
People were making comments. I guess he celebrated. I didn't see that the part where he celebrated.
00:36:49
Ryne
and He was getting booed, apparently.
00:36:52
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, I mean, if.
00:36:53
Ryne
The booze, the booze triggered a celebration.
00:36:56
Cokeley Brothers
Right, I mean, you if you if you retort to that, then sure, that's totally fine. People are going to boo after you.
00:37:00
Ryne
Yeah.
00:37:01
Cokeley Brothers
What did he do?
00:37:03
Ryne
Yeah.
00:37:03
Cokeley Brothers
So they're also, I also saw people like they, are they trying to say that he, he intentionally was hitting them.
00:37:05
Ryne
Well, and I mean, I, not like he was headbutting, but maybe he was clubbing hard.
00:37:15
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. It's part of the sport. So you put, you put yourself out there.
00:37:22
Ryne
Yep.
00:37:23
Cokeley Brothers
So, but there, I also saw people talking about like K sack and, and his, his facial acne saying that it's like steroid pimples and stuff. I don't think that's the case. I think that's I think that's harebrained.
00:37:33
Ryne
No, i but who was talking about it? Barr was talking about how, uh, who is it case hackers at Haynes, one of their dad's owns a bunch of like, yeah, once cattle, and you know, and I mean, well, these dudes get drug tested so much.
00:37:42
Cokeley Brothers
Casek, right. and And so I hear that. I'm like, OK, farm farm strong. He's able to bulk up because he's got red meat on on demand. Like steroids would be crazy. He's got he's got bad acne, but I think that's just I think it's just bad acne.
00:38:02
Cokeley Brothers
I'm aware.
00:38:03
Ryne
They get drug tested by the school, by the conference and by the NCAA.
00:38:04
Cokeley Brothers
I'm aware.
00:38:07
Ryne
So I know I'm just saying it for the audience.
00:38:07
Cokeley Brothers
I am aware.
00:38:11
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:38:11
Reese
The audience might not be aware.
00:38:14
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe the audience isn't aware. Maybe that person who said it isn't aware.
00:38:19
Cokeley Brothers
OK, ah but this did this kind of leans leads into and a point that I have on the dock where.
Wrestling Seeding Methods and Transparency
00:38:28
Cokeley Brothers
some things that get complicated towards this part of the season ah with the way that we handle seeding.
00:38:36
Cokeley Brothers
um I think there's a way to solve it and I wanna pitch the idea to you guys. And if I pitched it before, I don't feel like you guys really, really ah were liking the idea too much. But so basically the situation is,
00:38:56
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:38:58
Cokeley Brothers
So say you, say you wrestled and you beat Joey Volk this year, but he's not, he, but he's out for the season, right? Your win over him is basically null and void. It doesn't, it doesn't mean anything anymore. Right. Um, or you go out there and you're, you're, you know, you're the number two guy in the country and you're supposed to wrestle number one and you feel good about the match, but then they send in their backup. And so you're not wrestling number one, you're wrestling their backup. Um,
00:39:23
Cokeley Brothers
I think a way and, you know, maybe people just don't like the idea because it just, it just doesn't feel like wrestling. But I think the way to go around this is to say that, that if you, the spot, whoever starts for, you know, Illinois at 184 pounds, they're ranked at this ranking, like that weight class is at this ranking.
00:39:48
Cokeley Brothers
And so it doesn't matter who goes out there and wrestles, if you beat them, like you beat that spot, right? And so whenever you go to seating for big tens, if Purdue at 184, be Illinois at 184, that just matches up with seating.
00:40:03
Cokeley Brothers
I think that kind of solves that problem, but maybe it creates other issues. I don't know what, what,
00:40:08
Ryne
That's similar. Isn't that similar to what Willie willie said to do?
00:40:13
Cokeley Brothers
I think it's similar, but he, he talked about, the about the idea of like designating a starter. And i so I think it's a little different, but. it may It follows in line with the way other sports work, right? Where like Tennessee was really good at the earlier this year and in basketball, but then their center or somebody on their team like hurt his knee. And so then then they didn't have one of their starters, but they're they're still the number one ranked team in the country. They're still going out there and playing and they're still winning and losing basketball games. And so I think that way you have consistency and you don't have this issue of,
00:40:51
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, well, this guy's ranked number one in the country, but he's not going to wrestle until March. So that's kind of, that's just kind of that. Right.
00:41:00
Ryne
do a point system.
00:41:02
Cokeley Brothers
Point system.
00:41:03
Ryne
So kind of like what you were saying. All right. Uh, when you go, when it's time to seed, you go to conferences, nationals, whatever it's time to seed.
00:41:16
Ryne
All right. We wrestled Iowa. Uh, Iowa didn't wrestle their starter at one 57 who's ranked at the time he was ranked number two and right now he's ranked number three or number one or whatever you use the current ranking you know it's like all right well we beat the Iowa guy who they sent out there even though it wasn't their starter you earn these seeding points because of what their starter was ranked see what I'm saying yes
00:41:30
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:41
Cokeley Brothers
Like our Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's like a quality win that counts for this value. Okay. Yeah, that's also that's also another idea. But I think I think two things need to happen.
00:41:57
Cokeley Brothers
One, there needs to be more transparency in terms of who is who is healthy and who is not. Because I think I think that helps on so many different avenues of the sport.
00:42:10
Ryne
be
00:42:13
Cokeley Brothers
I think that that's. That should be implemented and like. sort of what the NFL does where they have to report like, yeah, this person has this, this injury, right? Like they're on the, they're on the IR or whatever. Um, because then you know, who's going to wrestle. You have set expectations for the crowd. You have set expectations for, for the other, the opponents. Um, and then there's not this, this dance of, of will they, won't they, where it's like, are we going to see Ryan Crookham this year? No idea.
00:42:50
Cokeley Brothers
No clue, don't know what's wrong with him, right?
00:42:52
Ryne
It's Elba.
00:42:53
Cokeley Brothers
it
00:42:53
Ryne
It's Elba.
00:42:56
Cokeley Brothers
Sure, yeah, sure. But like, we we didn't hear, we we had to find out from like like, oh, his family talked to this person and then that this person told told this guy on Twitter and so then they they let they let everybody know. But like,
00:43:12
Cokeley Brothers
Can there be a more formal system? I, cause I really appreciate what, what Kevin dresser does. I really appreciate what Brian Smith does with their transparency about who's healthy, who's not, who we're going to see. I think that is extremely valuable and I guess you can have a little bit of leniency in terms of how much you want to tell about it. Where it's like, yeah, we're, this guy's not going to start. We won't see him for this long. Right. But you're not going to tell us like, Oh yeah, his, ah his ankle is the size of of a softball right now. We don't, we don't need to know that. Sure. But.
00:43:42
Ryne
No, you do.
00:43:45
Cokeley Brothers
Why?
00:43:45
Ryne
I think it's important.
00:43:49
Ryne
Especially with, I mean, it's important for things like, ah you know, with the sports growing and so is sports gambling.
00:43:49
Cokeley Brothers
Why is it important?
00:43:56
Ryne
It's important for stuff like that.
00:43:58
Cokeley Brothers
yeah Yeah, so you can know who who is and isn't available.
00:43:59
Ryne
Look at the NFL. Look at the NFL.
00:44:02
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Yes. so But I think
00:44:04
Ryne
There's no secrets with injuries in the NFL.
00:44:07
Cokeley Brothers
Right. and And another part of that is that keeps the especially with the football with football and and concussions and all that that keeps the health of the athlete in mind because, you know, a coach or a coaching staff can't be like, Oh, yeah, he's a little banged up, but he's fine.
00:44:23
Cokeley Brothers
But whenever they give like a full official medical diagnosis, it's like, okay, it's clear and obvious what the problem is. And, you know, what we'll see.
00:44:30
Ryne
Well, it's nice when you got, you know, that's like, yeah, he's designated as questionable right now, but we're expecting him to play.
00:44:32
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:44:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:39
Ryne
Or he's day to day. Maybe he's doubtful. No, he's out. He's not playing, you know, that kind of stuff.
00:44:44
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Right. So I think that would be I think that would be one of the big improvements that you could see that doesn't necessarily impact a match like like wrestling matches. Those we don we don't see any difference there, but ah the the way that all affects news and betting and all of those other side things that you know, are helpful for the sport. I think it's important to keep those in mind. So. I'd like to see some sort of change there.
00:45:15
Ryne
I would like them to move to like, kind of what like professional sports does, especially now that we're paying these athletes the money that they're getting paid.
00:45:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah.
00:45:25
Ryne
So transparency is, is important and it's a way to, and it's, you know, it's part of growing the sport, transparency.
00:45:34
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:45:35
Ryne
So.
00:45:36
Cokeley Brothers
reese
00:45:38
Reese
what I have no input on this one way or the other.
00:45:41
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:45:42
Reese
this is quite I didn't know you were going to talk about this kind of thing.
00:45:42
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. i
00:45:47
Cokeley Brothers
um I mean, it was, it was something that popped up in my mind because, you know, I, I mean, I, I think about it cause it's like, God, is it is kind of frustrating.
00:45:48
Reese
just you're just kind of
00:45:54
Reese
yeah It's not something that I think about too much I guess.
00:46:01
Cokeley Brothers
Like I'll, I'll see these lines get put out. I don't gamble, but I see these lines get put out and I'm just like, I'm trying to think like, does, is this a good or is this a bad line up? Well, I don't, I don't know if Braden Davis is going to wrestle.
00:46:12
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know if we'll see Nick Bousakis or Ben Devino. I don't know if we're going to, if this guy is healthy or what weight this guy's at. We ever were going to see Sammy Sasso and Patty Gallagher wrestle ever again?
00:46:23
Cokeley Brothers
No idea. Clueless. No idea.
00:46:27
Reese
I think in Vegas, that's part of, that's like a part of other sports though, is like the last minute changes.
00:46:28
Cokeley Brothers
So.
00:46:32
Reese
I think that's, it's not just a wrestling thing. I mean, and they still change, they still update lines up to the, yeah,
00:46:36
Ryne
Well, yeah, but like you know the NFL, like you're you have to like report which players you're playing and which players are not playing like before the game started.
00:46:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:46:46
Reese
but what about college sports is what I'm getting at.
00:46:51
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:46:51
Ryne
and' right You know what? I'm not sure. Yeah, probably not. they're probably They probably don't have to be, but they should be. Need to be.
00:46:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:46:57
Ryne
Need to be more transparent.
00:46:58
Cokeley Brothers
It gets, it gets a little more complicated at the, at the college level.
00:47:01
Reese
Buyer, be aware, that's kind of how, but with stick with the game-like stuff, you know.
00:47:01
Ryne
but
00:47:05
Reese
but you know it's like
00:47:05
Ryne
oh yeah
00:47:05
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. For sure. For sure.
00:47:10
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Let's, let's take a quick look at some of these upcoming duels. We got Penn state, Ohio state. Uh, that is going to have
Anticipation for Upcoming Duels
00:47:20
Cokeley Brothers
a couple of interesting matches.
00:47:20
Cokeley Brothers
I kind of actually accidentally alluded to like, we could see Nick Buzakis and Braden Davis and that that's an interesting matchup. Um, but we might not see either of them wrestle. So we'll see, um, McCrone and little at all.
00:47:31
Ryne
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:47:33
Cokeley Brothers
That'll be a good, another good test for little at all. Uh, Jesse Mendez, both borrowed it. That's one V two great match there. um Dylan D'Amelio who, I don't know.
00:47:42
Ryne
One versus three.
00:47:46
Cokeley Brothers
i Yeah, I guess, yeah.
00:47:47
Reese
or two versus three.
00:47:50
Ryne
Depending on who you look at, yes.
00:47:52
Cokeley Brothers
Right, yeah. Dylan D'Amelio's got two losses this year. He's got an eight, two loss to Lachlan McNeil and an eight, three loss to Cal Parko. Van Ness, Van Ness could get bonus points there. But yeah, and then this is where,
00:48:09
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know what we're going to see. our Probably not going to see Tyler Kasek. I don't know who's going to go out there for for Ohio State.
00:48:13
Reese
Well, whatever we see, it'll be fine, you know. It'll be They'll be it'll be what it is. You know, I don't know.
00:48:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:48:20
Reese
Is that really ah is that really like?
00:48:20
Cokeley Brothers
Hey.
00:48:22
Reese
I don't know. It's not like their high high stakes matches anyway.
00:48:27
Cokeley Brothers
No, but you're not wrong. um Yeah, I get what you're saying may mitchell has and brik against I don't know. We'll see Patty Gallagher or Brock Herman 174.
00:48:40
Reese
That's an interesting book.
00:48:40
Cokeley Brothers
Karsha and Levi Haynes, dude. All right. Side sidebar. Indiana's rest in Ohio state. And I'm thinking, I'm thinking Indiana's got Ohio state on the ropes.
00:48:52
Cokeley Brothers
It's like, I can't remember what the school, what the dual score is, but it's going into the last two matches, 174 and 184. And Roman Rogotsky goes out there for Indiana, which is not, he hasn't been the guy for a while. It's been, it's been Guilcher and he's wrestling Carson Hartslow. He gets tech before the first period's over. That, that hurt. DJ Washington goes out there to wrestle Ryder Rogotsky. DJ takes him down and then Ryder Rogotsky reaches back, grabs his head and puts him in a headlock and pins him.
00:49:25
Cokeley Brothers
I'm just like, just like the Rogotsky, the Rogotsky brothers just crushed me, just broke my heart.
00:49:26
Reese
That's crazy.
00:49:26
Ryne
Good old fashioned reach back, baby.
00:49:30
Ryne
Don't reach back. Don't reach back. It doesn't work. Wrong.
00:49:34
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, you just you just reached back, put him in a headlock and pinned him. I'm like. That's not supposed to work.
00:49:39
Ryne
Oh, I've done it.
00:49:41
Cokeley Brothers
Not at that level, dude. Yeah, so because I mean, Indiana had it. Sollers beat Shumate, Moran beat McCrone, Rini beat Buzakis, which that's that's actually the second time he's beaten him.
00:49:54
Cokeley Brothers
But The duel was, was in our hands and and Bullock, Bullock had a close match with Feldman. Like ah I felt good about it. And then those last two matches.
00:50:05
Cokeley Brothers
Sucked the air out of the, out of Wilkinson, but that's fine. Uh, yeah. And speaking of Rado Rogatsky, he's got Carter Srzatski to see if he can reach back and grab his head and pin him. See what happens there.
00:50:16
Ryne
No, too strong, too strong.
00:50:17
Reese
That'd be tight.
00:50:18
Cokeley Brothers
be That'd be super cool. Uh, one ninety seven. Josh bar says shoe mate. It's gonna be, it's gonna be a tough one. And then Feldman and Kirk fleet. We've seen this one three times.
00:50:28
Cokeley Brothers
We probably know what's going to happen. So thrice three times, three times.
00:50:31
Reese
Three.
00:50:33
Ryne
I forget about Laurel star duel.
00:50:36
Reese
What?
00:50:40
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, four times.
00:50:41
Reese
Oh.
00:50:42
Ryne
Oh, really? They were so big 10 last year.
00:50:44
Cokeley Brothers
Wait.
00:50:45
Reese
They wrestled three times in the regular season last year.
00:50:46
Cokeley Brothers
Wait, wait, wait, wait. No, they wrestled three times. Just three times regular season. Yeah.
00:50:49
Reese
Yeah, the All-Star deal was Wyatt and Kirk.
00:50:49
Cokeley Brothers
Dual big tens and CIS. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then, and then this year it was Tay and Feldman.
00:50:56
Ryne
Oh, that's right. Tay and Feldman.
00:50:57
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:59
Ryne
the
00:51:00
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. I was all mixed up with that one too.
00:51:03
Ryne
It was supposed to be Kirk and Feldman, right?
00:51:03
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:51:05
Ryne
And Kirk bailed out?
00:51:07
Reese
Yeah.
00:51:07
Ryne
OK.
00:51:08
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I think so. I think so. Okay. Iowa, Minnesota. This is, this is the big one.
00:51:17
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, wrestle stat has it predicted to be a 15, 15 tie.
00:51:24
Cokeley Brothers
Cooper Flynn, Joey Cruz, lean Flynn on that one. Drake, Ayla, Tyler Wells, lean Drake, Ayla on that one. Vombar Shriever.
00:51:36
Ryne
I got a major for vampire.
00:51:36
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. We'll see. Could be, could be major, but it could be kept close. We'll see. I don't know. I don't know what to think. Kyle parko drew Roberts.
00:51:47
Ryne
ah got I can't remember if I have a decision or a major for parko.
00:51:48
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe.
00:51:52
Ryne
I might have a major because he might get on top of him and turn him a couple of times.
00:51:56
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Uh, Tommy Askey, Corey Teamer.
00:52:00
Ryne
Or Charlie Miller.
00:52:04
Cokeley Brothers
Or Charlie Millard. Oh, what is Charlie Millard done this year?
00:52:12
Ryne
Uh, he had a good win at the beginning of the year.
00:52:12
Reese
He's been alright.
00:52:14
Ryne
He's a tough freshman.
00:52:14
Cokeley Brothers
He beat Chidam. He's 11 and one.
00:52:17
Ryne
That's the one.
00:52:17
Reese
Oh, I love his wood.
00:52:18
Cokeley Brothers
Ooh, he lost to Moses Espinoza Owens.
00:52:21
Ryne
Ooh, yikes.
00:52:23
Cokeley Brothers
Ooh. But yeah, he beat Cody Chittum at the Cyclone Open last month.
00:52:31
Cokeley Brothers
And that's ah Kobe Seabrookt.
00:52:32
Ryne
Here's another win in a duel too. That was pretty good. No, maybe that was the one. How about it? He beat Kobe.
00:52:42
Cokeley Brothers
He's beaten Kobe Seabrookt twice. He's majored him 13-4 and beat him 10-3. James Conway be him 10 seven. Those are his, those are his good matches though.
00:52:54
Ryne
Okay. Well, um, yeah, I think we'll probably see ASCII, but they do have Charlie as a probable.
00:52:59
Cokeley Brothers
Keep, keep Charlie in there.
00:53:00
Ryne
So, but I, I got teamer battle of the genes.
00:53:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:53:02
Reese
Ugh.
00:53:04
Cokeley Brothers
Sparks, Sparks, Caliendo. This has been close every single time they've wrestled. Yeah. And maybe it's, maybe it's a ah camaraderie thing. I don't know. But this, this will be a close one.
00:53:17
Cokeley Brothers
You gotta lean Caliendo. He's 4-0 against him, but you know, four close matches.
00:53:19
Ryne
Yep.
00:53:23
Cokeley Brothers
Sometimes that starts to go the other way.
00:53:27
Cokeley Brothers
Kennedy Whiting, probably kept Patrick Kennedy.
00:53:31
Ryne
Yeah.
00:53:31
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, it's in Minnesota.
00:53:31
Ryne
And it's in Minnesota, but Kennedy's from Minnesota.
00:53:35
Cokeley Brothers
Does that give him extra powers? Right.
00:53:38
Ryne
I mean, he's going to be home. You know, sometimes that helps.
00:53:42
Cokeley Brothers
Here's a big one. Max McInnelly, Gabe Arnold.
00:53:45
Ryne
Or Angelo.
00:53:48
Cokeley Brothers
i He's not listed as a probable, I don't think.
00:53:49
Ryne
I know, but I still think there might be a possibility.
00:53:53
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think so. I'm going to say that doesn't happen.
00:53:58
Reese
Did they ever do that? Were they throwing a guy who was not a probable?
00:54:01
Cokeley Brothers
I feel like I don't know.
00:54:04
Reese
Did that happen?
00:54:05
Ryne
I don't know, I have to go back and look.
00:54:11
Cokeley Brothers
I don't have one in my mind when they would have done that.
00:54:12
Ryne
Wasn't Braden Davis listed as the guy against Iowa and they didn't have anyone else and then they sent out Kurt McHenry?
00:54:19
Cokeley Brothers
I think that was a last minute situation.
00:54:21
Ryne
I'm just saying, I'm just saying.
00:54:21
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe not.
00:54:24
Ryne
I'm pretty sure, brat um Kurt McHenry was not listed on the probabilities and then he went out there.
00:54:25
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I don't know.
00:54:31
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, we'll know if Angela weighs in. We'll hear about that.
00:54:35
Reese
We will know then.
00:54:35
Ryne
Yep, we will know.
00:54:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:54:38
Ryne
Um, but yeah, McAnelli.
00:54:42
Cokeley Brothers
McInally is looking good.
00:54:43
Ryne
McAnelli, if it's, McAnelli, if it's Arnold, and then if it's Angelo, I'm not sure. I might lean Angelo, but McAnelli has been awesome really well.
00:54:50
Cokeley Brothers
Don't know. Yeah.
00:54:53
Ryne
I'd probably go with McAnelli there too.
00:54:58
Cokeley Brothers
OK, Salazar Buchanan. i It's Buchanan, but I'm interested in this match.
00:55:07
Cokeley Brothers
Now, it's probably like a two take down match for Buchanan.
00:55:08
Reese
and Yeah, probably not.
00:55:11
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, they're both really strong, so that's why it's interesting.
00:55:15
Ryne
really strong
00:55:18
Cokeley Brothers
And then we got Steve's and Keeter can Keeter keep it to a decision.
00:55:22
Ryne
No, I think he's getting I think he's getting does he win I bet he weighs yeah Would you say reason It's
00:55:24
Cokeley Brothers
Whoa. What makes you say that?
00:55:29
Cokeley Brothers
What is, what has been Keeter way in it?
00:55:33
Reese
eighty five
00:55:36
Cokeley Brothers
What is it? What?
00:55:39
Cokeley Brothers
230.
00:55:41
Reese
all of it
00:55:43
Ryne
probably right
00:55:44
Cokeley Brothers
Do you think so?
00:55:46
Ryne
Listen, listen, I got Gable winning by fall in this match.
00:55:48
Reese
Which which one's right
00:55:54
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Okay. Okay. Cool. I just want to know how much Ben cuter weighs in at.
00:55:59
Ryne
Probably two 32 35.
00:56:02
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Reset, reset 285 just to be clear.
00:56:06
Ryne
Oh, no, two 32, maybe two 40.
00:56:09
Cokeley Brothers
And then, and then you said he's probably right.
00:56:10
Reese
you' like That's probably right Yeah, yeah why is it any bigger?
00:56:11
Cokeley Brothers
And I was, I was like, I was like, no way. No, I'm just wondering why he's not bigger.
00:56:15
Ryne
i' not and thought said two thirty I thought said
00:56:18
Cokeley Brothers
I'm just wondering why he's not bigger.
00:56:18
Ryne
here
00:56:20
Cokeley Brothers
That's just what I'm wondering. So.
00:56:24
Ryne
Dude, I mean, he I think he is getting bigger. I mean, yeah, it's not easy.
00:56:30
Cokeley Brothers
It's too slow.
00:56:30
Reese
It's too slow
00:56:31
Cokeley Brothers
Speed it up. Put more, put more slop in the trough.
00:56:35
Ryne
It's not easy.
00:56:37
Cokeley Brothers
It's not easy, dude. I saw what they did to Tony Cassiope. If they can do that to him, they can, they can do what they need to, to, to Ben Keter.
00:56:44
Ryne
Let's suck him down.
00:56:46
Cokeley Brothers
No. Well, did you, from, from junior to senior year, they, they turned Cassiope from a, from a early 2000s heavyweight to a late 2010s heavyweight.
00:56:47
Reese
Yes, but the opposite.
00:56:53
Ryne
Well, yeah. but But we all know that fat Cass was better than than buff Cass. so
00:57:02
Reese
That's true.
00:57:03
Cokeley Brothers
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00:57:05
Reese
I honestly forgotten about Cassiopeia. I think that's just a my mind blocking out the days where Cassiopeia was a college wrestler.
00:57:14
Cokeley Brothers
The double thigh pry. Yeah.
00:57:16
Reese
The Devil's Eye Pray King.
00:57:19
Ryne
The king.
00:57:20
Cokeley Brothers
He was good at it. Not resprudy seat. Where is he now?
00:57:22
Reese
He was so good at putting both his hands between the thighs.
00:57:24
Ryne
ah He's miserable in the corner at Wisconsin. That's where he's at.
00:57:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Yes, he is.
00:57:29
Ryne
I see him in these Wisconsin duels and he just looks like he hates himself.
00:57:29
Cokeley Brothers
I was, I wanted to, I wanted to,
00:57:33
Cokeley Brothers
I wanted to quiz Reese on that, but it's fine.
00:57:33
Reese
Really?
00:57:34
Ryne
Yes.
00:57:37
Reese
Yeah, I had no idea.
00:57:38
Cokeley Brothers
It's okay. It's okay. Okay. Uh, let's get, let's get to our our last bit here. The Hoosier hour is everybody likes.
00:57:46
Reese
Uh, what, you already did the Hoosier Hour.
00:57:49
Cokeley Brothers
No, I didn't know.
00:57:50
Ryne
No, he did a Hoosier recap.
00:57:50
Reese
Yes, you did.
00:57:51
Cokeley Brothers
That was, that was, that was a Hoosier minute.
00:57:54
Reese
What the hell is the...
00:57:54
Cokeley Brothers
I got, I got India is visiting Nebraska and I want to talk about it, Reese.
00:57:57
Reese
Oh, okay, okay.
00:57:58
Ryne
This actually might be a duel that Indiana could sneak sneak out, sneak out with a Deb.
00:57:59
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:58:03
Cokeley Brothers
Indiana can sneak this duel, and I got the key matchups right in front of me. okay Jacob Moran, Caleb Smith.
00:58:08
Reese
Hurry up!
00:58:10
Cokeley Brothers
They wrestled earlier this year, but it was a close match, and and Jacob Moran's on a bit of a heater right now, so I i want to see something out of this one angelo rey Jacob Van D.
00:58:16
Ryne
um na
00:58:20
Cokeley Brothers
Van D, definitely a better wrestler, but he's a little out of control, a little wild.
00:58:20
Ryne
Blackjack.
00:58:24
Cokeley Brothers
We saw him lose to Zann Fugit and Angelo Rini is coming off a win over over Nick Bizakis. Could see something really good here. ah Jumping up to 165, Tyler and Chris Minto.
00:58:35
Cokeley Brothers
They wrestled earlier this year. Minto won it. We'll see what we see. I think i think Indiana overall as a team has bet has been better this second semester than they were in the first semester. So, DJ Washington, Silas Allred.
00:58:49
Cokeley Brothers
Never know what to expect with DJ, so I'm just interested in this match. Gabe Sollers came to McDaniel. I think McDaniel won this match earlier in the year 5-2, but still, we'll see what we get with Sollers.
00:59:01
Cokeley Brothers
And then Harley Andrews, Jacob Bullock. I know Bullock can win this match. I know he can. He's just got to do it. So if they win,
00:59:07
Ryne
but to It's honestly a winnable duel for Indiana.
00:59:11
Reese
Sounds like it Has what's Henry looking like this year That's what's Henry looking like this year I
00:59:11
Cokeley Brothers
yeah the thing is is though, they got to win all six of those matches.
00:59:13
Ryne
Yes, they do.
00:59:15
Cokeley Brothers
Cause they're, getting they're, they're giving up bonus. They're giving up bonus at maybe not 41. If henry Henry can maybe keep it close with Brock, but 49 and 57 probably gonna be ugly.
00:59:26
Ryne
Rock has broca looked so good.
00:59:31
Cokeley Brothers
Brock has looked really good. Uh, Reese, what'd you say? I was, I, not what I wanted him to look like. He.
00:59:42
Cokeley Brothers
The match that I was like really, this is that the this is the big test for him to see where does he really stack up with this with this field was Sergio Lemley. He kind of got pushed around. He got pushed around the mat the whole time. So um he's gonna be an NCAA qualifier caliber guy, but I think that's what you can expect. so And I'm ready to be proven wrong. So Henry, do that for me. But yeah, these are,
01:00:13
Cokeley Brothers
They got to win these six matches because they're giving up bonus in. In 41, well, maybe 41, probably 49 and 57 and then also maybe even 74, depending on who goes out there.
01:00:26
Cokeley Brothers
So. Actually, probably no matter, no matter who goes out there, because Pinto Pinto is a scary guy. So that's the Hoosier, our tune into that one.
01:00:36
Ryne
Why did we skip UNI Iowa State?
01:00:42
Cokeley Brothers
Cuz we're getting late and Reese is getting cranky and he needs to eat.
01:00:44
Reese
Yeah, I need to eat some food. I got worked in the morning That's
01:00:49
Cokeley Brothers
Reese has work in the morning.
01:00:49
Ryne
Oh no.
01:00:52
Reese
right, well every other week every other day before That every other day before today this week would have been better than today No, I know I know I know I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I would be done
01:01:01
Ryne
Not for me you i've tomorrow is the only day I don't have to wake up at five in the morning.
01:01:08
Cokeley Brothers
ah
01:01:10
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, Northern Iowa State's got a couple of interesting matches. I hope we see Corey Land wrestle at 133. Him versus Evan Frost, that'd be a great match.
01:01:18
Reese
true
01:01:20
Cokeley Brothers
Jacob Frost, Cal Hapl at 49. Real Budo, Panero Johnson.
01:01:25
Ryne
41.
01:01:25
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Frost at 41. Real Budo at 49 against Panero Johnson. Chidim and Ryder Downey, great match. ah 174, Guy Ton, Jared Sima.
01:01:39
Cokeley Brothers
I need to see Jared Simmons start to come alive here at the tail end of the season.
01:01:46
Cokeley Brothers
Lance Runyon, Daniel Herrera. Yeah, there's there's a lightweights.
01:01:50
Reese
Riveting Runyon and Herrera that's riveting to We've seen it we've seen we've seen literally all of those matches have we not Well, no, we're not the land one yeah, but yeah running in Herrera went might as well have seen that one Might as well
01:01:51
Cokeley Brothers
The lightweights are going to carry. and The lightweights are going to carry this duel. You're being a prick.
01:01:59
Ryne
I think it's going to be a good goal.
01:01:59
Cokeley Brothers
Russellstadt has it predicted to be.
01:02:04
Ryne
Running in Herrera?
01:02:04
Cokeley Brothers
I'm not the land one.
01:02:06
Ryne
Where?
01:02:09
Cokeley Brothers
Not the land one, but Frost Frost and.
01:02:13
Ryne
When?
01:02:13
Cokeley Brothers
Well, you know, we haven't seen Jacob Frost and kale.
01:02:14
Ryne
Where?
01:02:15
Cokeley Brothers
Apple. I don't think. No, we have. They wrestled twice. Kailhappel is beating them both times. Call and reel. Budo has beaten Pinero Johnson. Three to two.
01:02:25
Reese
Alright, this was not this was rhetorical question. They've I'm sure they've all wrestled many times Yes, okay They
01:02:30
Cokeley Brothers
Downey and Chidam have wrestled twice.
01:02:32
Ryne
um We're talking about this year though.
01:02:34
Cokeley Brothers
Sima and Gaeton have wrestled.
01:02:35
Ryne
They're all every year is different.
01:02:36
Cokeley Brothers
Tech guys and embark men have wrestled. Lance Runyon and Daniel Herrera. I've wrestled each other.
01:02:42
Ryne
Hey, where grand view.
01:02:43
Reese
alright
01:02:45
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, 11, 16. So probably, uh, 11, 16 was the date, not the score. Score was two.
01:02:52
Ryne
Yep.
01:02:52
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, okay.
01:02:53
Ryne
That was grand view.
01:02:54
Cokeley Brothers
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Conclusion and Final Thoughts
01:03:04
Cokeley Brothers
Spread the love. All right.
01:03:07
Cokeley Brothers
Let people know what we're doing here. I think we're doing well. And if we're not doing well, let us know.
01:03:12
Ryne
No, if we're not doing well, we don't care about your opinion.
01:03:12
Cokeley Brothers
How do we how do we do better?
01:03:15
Ryne
We're going to keep doing it.
01:03:17
Cokeley Brothers
I care about your opinion. I care about everybody's voice. But hey, what I care about more is that you have a good day. All right? Now goodbye. Say goodbye to the people.
01:03:28
Ryne
Goodbye, people.
01:03:30
Cokeley Brothers
Come on, Reese. All right, there we go. but Bye bye.