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Episode 26: Jacob's Spiritual Deconstruction | Boys 2 Men image

Episode 26: Jacob's Spiritual Deconstruction | Boys 2 Men

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For our Season 5 finale, we went deep into the minds of the Boys 2 Men. Spiritually deconstructing them, and learning their deepest thoughts on life. Everything from cookies to regrets.  We would like to personally thank the sponsor of todays episode: Audible                                                                                                     Check out Audible and use the link http://www.audibletrial.com/Boys2MenPodcast to get a 30 day trial including 1 credit(2 credits if you are an Amazon Prime Member). If this episode made you deconstruct yourself, then consider donating: https://venmo.com/code?user_id=3124550581616640837 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/boys2men/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/boys2men/support
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Gamer Fridge Essentials

00:00:03
Speaker
What should I put in the gamer fridge Water cuz you have to hydrate yourself. Oh, yeah any water today hydration water is important Monster is it a given because it's an apple don't be Apple gamer drink You put a bottle of water with G spot on it. Yeah, I'm thinking of putting
00:00:30
Speaker
What if we just sell, like, vitamin water as G-spot? It's just, like, mineral water? It's just, like, the vitamin water. People go crazy for it. We take up some label and we just, like, with the Sharpie rate G-spot. Or, like, we're so cheap. We'll have to buy a lot of... We're just so cheap. We don't even have, like, proper, like, label printing. We're just... write it with, like, a crayon. With, like, a sticky note, or, like, this is G-spot. Enjoy.
00:01:02
Speaker
And then we're like drink responsibly. Don't shove it up your ass.

Boys to Men Podcast Introduction

00:01:46
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the boys to men podcast is 420 It's oh, yeah season five episode Six six five
00:02:07
Speaker
Six correct. All right Thank you Today we are going to be going back to one of our most popular segments, which is hard to answer questions the girthiest of questions the the girth of hardness and
00:02:31
Speaker
Hard questions are going to be answered today and only the girthiest. That is correct. All right, let's get started. Did you go into some detail? Oh, bro, I'm tired. I know. I know. All right. I guess we're going to start off easy before we get into the deep shit. You know what I mean?
00:03:01
Speaker
Oh, oh, girthy and deep. Okay. All right. You said it. You said it, not me. Just started. All right.

Soft Sugar Cookies Debate

00:03:13
Speaker
All right. Do you guys know, do you guys know those like weird, um, those cookies, those like loft house cookies? You know what I mean? Like it was like sugar, the soft sugar cookies. Oh yeah. Like that. Yeah.
00:03:28
Speaker
I hate that. The little elves on the label. The elves? You mean the Kiedler elves? Isn't it like the sugar cookies, right? Where it's like they're like soft and they have like a coat. You have a weird coating on top? Yeah. Yeah. What do you guys think of this? Those are good.
00:03:52
Speaker
yeah i know i can tell that i've made a mistake no i agree i agree with you know there's there's nothing wrong with that bro i depending on the circumstance they are very good if you haven't had them in a long time they are good exactly but the problem is that they're so tasty that you keep eating them until you can't have any more and you feel awful and you hate the
00:04:14
Speaker
It's the same thing as a candy corn. You know what I mean? Like you, you eat it all in one sitting. You don't want to eat it again for like another year or two. And then, and then you just keep repeating. I don't know about you. I just absolutely hate candy corn. All right. So I usually now banned from this podcast.
00:04:35
Speaker
No, no, no, I actually kind of like the cookies. That's all I'm going to say. I like the cookies, sort of. I agree with Jacob. It's very situational. It's weird how like you eat them and then you're like, oh, it's pretty good. You eat a bunch of them and then it's too much and you stop eating them and then you wait like maybe a couple months before you go ahead and
00:04:58
Speaker
Eat it again. Here's the thing, you'd never eat them by themselves, right? Like you're at a party, you'll eat them with a bag of chips or like in a glass of milk or something or like a soda, you know what I mean?
00:05:08
Speaker
Like if you're just, it's like the same, cause they're so dry sometimes, it's like eating like a Popeye's biscuit. You know what I mean? So like, um, well, I don't really think those two are exactly comparable. Well, they're the Popeye's biscuit of desserts. That's what I'm going to call them. You can agree with me or you can't, but that's how, that's how I view them in, in honesty.

Cake vs Cookies: A Philosophical Debate

00:05:31
Speaker
this is a very important topic to me because I know it is, it is. This is going to determine if I am going to continue living or not. Oh, so it's fair. So this determines if we could not be tomorrow or not. We're kidnapping tomorrow, by the way. Yeah. And then we're going to execute him in the back of a car.
00:05:54
Speaker
Yeah, we are not killing him. We are not killing him in the back of my car. I'm about to steal my car, dude. Not in the back of the car. And you don't want your car to be like a murder scene? Yeah. Have you seen the car that Tupac got shot in? It got sold for like 23 million dollars. Listen, some people might die, Ayush, right? And that is a risk I'm willing to take, okay?
00:06:22
Speaker
Just take one for the team and we can ensure the future of the Boiseman podcast survives. Yeah, maybe we can finally get that studio you've always wanted. I can kill you via base. Can I choose how I want to die? I know I'm going to die one day. I just want to choose how I want to die. We're like two minutes in and we're already like...
00:06:46
Speaker
like a part of me once wants a firing squad because i feel like that's kind of cool like i get it like an audience pretty cool that'd be pretty cool yeah yeah and i could choose the gun like i want tracer rounds i want i want this to be like a firework show um no loud ones i want to i want silencers i don't want to be like loud i want people to get like i want to be at night so people can see the tracers but i don't want to wake up the neighbors you know i care about their sleep um i would

Hypothetical Death Scenarios

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like
00:07:14
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a buffet right before I die. Of what? Just garlic bread. Sure, yeah, maybe garlic bread. Sample in the original packaging? Yes, I was about to say. Sample in the original packaging. Okay, but hear me out, hear me out. So I'm thinking, you know those cubes where they like fill something with resin, they like put something in it like a cheese burger or something and they fill it with resin?
00:07:42
Speaker
So you have like a nice glass cube looking thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to do that with a Snapple. Like a, like a cap. Oh, you want to like, you want to like put it in the Snapple, in the, in the resin mold. So it's like a glass. I like that. I like that. Okay. Okay. I dig it. I dig it. And then you're just going to like,
00:08:08
Speaker
Molded and keep it there forever. Yeah, we should we should make a time capsule. Oh By the way guys update. I do believe that half of us are already done with college for the year. Is that correct? I am yeah, you were in the half that is not done. I use yeah, I'm not I am in the half that is not done Hey, I've got another two weeks same. Let's go
00:08:34
Speaker
What was the purpose of this? Because that's what this whole podcast is about. We just always forget that. Yeah, no, it's about us in our beginning. Oh, yeah, yeah. How was school for you guys? I was going to ask that. School was an amazing experience. The classes were there. They weren't the highlight, but they were there, except for my film
00:09:03
Speaker
classes you care about those you don't care about the other classes okay okay I like it so the rest was just playing rocket league with the boys staying up till ungodly hours literally just the last semester I mean I don't know yeah the classes did seem a little more

Reflecting on College and Growth

00:09:33
Speaker
Actually just living Yeah ragers so that was a lot of our good ragers and we will we will have one more now I'll bring I'll bring all of the the Shasta doctor What is this called Shasta root beers that you can imagine and it's gonna be crazy to Utterly incense
00:10:02
Speaker
Okay. Okay. Yes, sir. Yes. I like it. Cool. All right. Let's get, let's get back to the, to the topic. Yeah. So I, I was, yeah. So the cookie question is, is a two parter. It leads, it leads into an important question, which I don't know why we never talked about cake or cookie. Ooh. Ooh.
00:10:31
Speaker
Cake cookie is more like bite-size, you know, it's it's it's more portable. Yeah Cake cakes kind of an ordeal, you know, it's an it's an event like commitment like marriage. Yeah chickens like yeah, I know this is this is facts my visual of cocoa, right and
00:11:06
Speaker
Facts my bitch love Coco Anyways, okay. I know I agree because What Noah said is completely like this is like this is why we go to college guys, right? So cake is more of a commitment it is more group related it is
00:11:26
Speaker
A lot more difficult to purchase. Well, not to purchase. It's more expensive. The purchase you say that like it, like you gotta get a fucking cake. No, it's, it's more expensive. And it's, remember the alcohol ban. Oh my gosh. Duff Goldman bro. Imagine the riots that would happen if cake had a ban. Cause like the, like there were like, it was crazy.
00:11:58
Speaker
Okay. You're saying that as if you've lived through the cake, the cake band of 1984.
00:12:07
Speaker
In my day, I had to live through it. We don't really live through anything like that. Like we've lived through the more recent riots and protests. And the Backstreet Boys. The Backstreet Boys World Tour. I mean, I guess maybe the 08 stuff. The market crash. The recession. Yeah, the recession. Yeah. I mean.
00:12:33
Speaker
Oh one the release of Shrek. Well, I thought I was I didn't die. I wasn't born yet, but Yeah, so if cake got a license, I'm not comparing it to all those things but it There might be an uproar of some kind I feel like I feel like cake should be treated equally to other desserts but the problem is like what you said Jacob cake is a
00:13:00
Speaker
a group thing, but at the same time, there's a few exceptional people who can eat an entire cake in one sitting.
00:13:06
Speaker
And you're a very sad human being, if you can do that. If you eat an entire cake by yourself, it's impressive. And it is impressively sad is what it is because I would not just want to eat, I mean, I've eaten a cake by myself. Okay, listen, I'm gonna be honest. I did it, I think, was it for, I think it was for, what was it called?
00:13:37
Speaker
No, what's that one holiday called? Valentine's Day. I bought myself like a big chocolate cake. I was like, I deserve this. And I ate it.
00:13:48
Speaker
Were you crying while you ate it? No. I was just watching TV and doing school essentially. Um, no, but the thing is, is I feel like you can combine cookies with the more things too. Like, you know, cookies and ice cream, cookies and a cookie ice cream sandwich, bro. Oh my God. Hey, what are you saying? Cake and ice cream. Yeah.
00:14:15
Speaker
Taking ice cream is actually really good. That is very good. You're right. You're right. But I don't know. I just have you ever had like a hot fudge Sunday. Oh my God. And then like like there's like that nice warm not like too hot. But like you're going to like you're going to make me go out to like some sort of like store right now and get that stuff. Yeah. The fudge is that like that perfect temperature not too hot where you burn your tongue but like perfect.
00:14:41
Speaker
the cake is nice and spongy where it's soaking the juice of the ice cream and the fudge and then you just kind of put that big spoon you know that big sundae spoon and you just dig all the way all the way dude but you know you know when you eat like uh like a root beer float with like some

Cookies, Ice Cream, and Nostalgia

00:15:00
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or just you know any ice cream with like some hot chocolate chip cookies in it and it's like the cold and the hot mixed together and then you like and it's like a really gooey chocolate chips yeah bro either of those honestly bless up right beautiful i'm i'm i have a sweet tooth personally uh i don't know about the rest same same yeah uh
00:15:23
Speaker
Because I don't know some people prefer to eat spicy food for some reason and honestly Listen I am I am Mexican I and I hate spicy food and I will admit to that and not only do I hate it I just I Cannot handle it. All right I just never my body and my mind have both never been able to understand why people enjoy just burning their tongue and being like this tastes good I I just
00:15:54
Speaker
If it tastes better as a result, but no, if it's just so spicy to the point where you're just like crying, crying, like I'm just like, why would you do that to yourself? You know what I'm like, it flushes your body well and whatnot. And it makes you sweat. And it like, it can clear your like, you burn some calories. I am, I am a thin boy. I don't need to burn any more calories. And I already am just existing. Yeah.
00:16:23
Speaker
I mean, it has taken me a very long time to gain as much weight as I've been trying to gain, right? COVID didn't help out with that.
00:16:34
Speaker
What I'm saying is that cake is not going to do that to me. Cookies is not going to do that to me. They're going to make me feel good inside unless I eat too much. They're going to make me feel good on the inside, on the outside, and life is good. If I had to choose between cake and cookies personally,
00:16:53
Speaker
Because of variety and because of ease of access I would say cookies that does not mean that I do not like cake but out of the two I would prefer cookies more often, but they are both wonderful desserts and Shoot I was supposed to eat cake right now. Okay. All right. Yep. That's there's my two cents. We could do a cake tasting episode

Fancy Suits and Fast Food Plans

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Speaker
Yeah, I think I think for dessert when we all go out in the suits boys we're gonna have to get some dessert somewhere Yes, of course To the audience who needs to know this So we're gonna all be able to go out soon. Finally, it's crazy and I'm really excited to tell you as you can tell by
00:17:45
Speaker
What are we planned to get up in to get ourselves dressed in very fancy suits and hit the town going to like McDonald's and stuff like that and Like very fancy suits and it's gonna be fun. So yeah. All right, and by yeah, it was gonna be gone like fast food places
00:18:03
Speaker
Yeah, I've been eating more recently in downtown too. So I know some like, I don't have a good place. They do, bro. They got some like, where we live food is not like, like after eating their food here is like, poor food. And that's facts my bitch love cocoa. But yeah, it's more expensive too.
00:18:27
Speaker
it is like I used to go on our budget and winter break and stuff like that and sometimes with my brothers I'd go to downtown but sometimes I'd go by myself to like look around and see if there's any places that I wanted to eat but I've been going more often now
00:18:43
Speaker
It's pretty good. We'll, we'll have to check it out. Get some like Chick-fil-A. Oh wait, you can't eat, you can't eat that. Can you Aish? As long as it's not made of meat. That's, that's one thing. I feel like Chick-fil-A doesn't exactly specialize. Yeah. I'll just like, I'll just take their tub of ranch and just sit under it. Can you eat mac and cheese? I can. Okay. Would you, would you bathe yourself in the ranch? What?
00:19:12
Speaker
So you mentioned if this is I'm not I wasn't sitting on it I know I know that's why I'm asking you if with it and eating it I'm not if this is some sort of fetish okay you know what next question or you guys answer the question because I went on like a five-minute rant about cookies and cake we go ahead
00:19:38
Speaker
I'm not I'm a cake person Yeah, there's more options of cake I feel like I'd agree I'm a cake person as well just cake in general is good And if someone who is more recently eaten cakes just for fun it's He's the cake boss well when you have a
00:20:03
Speaker
likes to make you cake you kind of okay yeah you have made it in life if she makes you cake bro like just out of the blue she's like yeah I hate you Connor
00:20:23
Speaker
It's just how it works. Jacob's adding one more thing to his Tinder bio. Must be on the page. No, bro. It's so depressing online dating. It just really is, bro. Cause you're lied to so many times and you just like, you, like you don't even want to get your hopes up, you know? And then like, it's just sad. But you know, cake is good. Um,
00:20:48
Speaker
tiramisu cake is really good tiramisu oh my god bro that shit's fussing uh but yeah tiramisu is pretty good i feel like if you eat cake too often it loses its value you know like it's it's stylish
00:21:11
Speaker
um yeah cookie cookie for me is more like a winter thing you know okay christmas santa you don't even celebrate christmas just the idea that he may drop like what if what if he got the wrong address he just came back i mean we don't believe any of this stuff but hey they kind of have a good idea going on here yeah it smells really good dude

Santa Claus and Chimney Tales

00:21:40
Speaker
Okay, honestly, I'm gonna reveal a secret that I've never told anyone. I legitimately thought that one day Santa's gonna get the wrong address and it's gonna come down my chimney. And we don't have chimneys where we live, so I'm just like, he's just busting through the roof. He's just like, all right, it's my turn now.
00:22:02
Speaker
Oh, when I was in a park side in Anthem, we had a chimney. You had a chimney? Yeah. Was it like a full-on? Well, it's a kind of chimney. It's not like a giant hole in your ceiling. No. It's a smokestack, pretty much. We had like a fireplace, and you know, fireplaces need chimneys, so, you know. All right, all right, all right. All right, I like it. Noah, what about you, Kager Cookies? Uh...
00:22:31
Speaker
So here's my dilemma. Here's my dilemma. There's so many, so many different kinds of cookies and there's so many different kinds of cakes from each other. And so it's really just a question of like what I'm feeling at the moment. And honestly, sometimes I feel like cake is too rich, mostly just because I'm eating more, more cake than I'm eating cookie, you know?
00:22:59
Speaker
But I would probably have to go with cookies. All right. We're split down in the middle. I can have a couple of different cookies, not feel super bloated. Yeah. And they can have different flavors. But if I have one piece of cake, I'm done. Facts. I would agree.
00:23:28
Speaker
Cake just tastes so good. I mean, man's got a point. You're not wrong, bro. I don't know. You're not wrong. Yeah. But I would say cookies are a bit more accessible. You can just buy a box of cookies that are just ready for you to eat.
00:23:51
Speaker
and the cake requires a bit more work. Either you have to make it from scratch or get a box of mix and do that yourself or go to the store and buy a whole cake. You can't make small cakes. You just have to hope that the store has a decent enough cake where you're not going to gain 700 pounds or get diabetes. Other than that, yeah, cake.
00:24:23
Speaker
That's my thank you for attending my senior thesis. I was rereading my senior thesis today.

Thesis Writing Concerns

00:24:32
Speaker
And I was like, dude, how did I send this in? I know. I know. How did they let me pass? I was like, it's like that meme where it's like the one when you're writing your essay and it's like the happy face. And then when you read it the next day before you turn it in, it's just like, what the heck is this? Are you talking about the bald dude? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. With like heavily shaded bald man.
00:24:58
Speaker
because i finished my the you know like a couple hours before is do you i don't even know when that was this is this is facts i had to ask for an extension well i wasn't that dumb but i i finished it on time i turned it in but like i didn't get to change it after and i like i didn't think about until i got to the defense and started reading my paper like
00:25:23
Speaker
Midway during my thesis defense right when we have to defend like our paper at the end of the school year I was I was like Trying to find evidence to counter an argument and I was I literally said in the middle of my thesis who wrote this Yeah
00:25:52
Speaker
Yes, for some background, we should give some background. Basically, in our senior year of high school, we have to write a paper about two books that we didn't get to choose. And we had to write a 20. You got to choose, not 20. You got to choose. No, you didn't get to choose your initial one. Yeah, I didn't get to choose my initial one. I just got assigned it. You get to choose the second one.
00:26:19
Speaker
No, that's not what happened to me, but cool. Well, you can choose which one you want to do the most. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You get to like rank it. You got to rank it. I didn't get my first choice. Whatever. I would have gotten the greatest teacher alive if I got my first choice. I did. I know, Connor. I know. OK. I remember seeing his face continue being like anyway. Yeah.
00:26:47
Speaker
So we have to write a paper. It's like 18 plus pages. And I mean, like the idea is cool. And they give you a lot of time to work on it. But when the due dates come. But no one works on it. Yeah, no one works on it. It's always like the day before the due date. Or teachers like, hey, blank, blank, where is your paper? And you're like, I don't have it. I'm Jacob. So basically.
00:27:18
Speaker
And yet here I am in college. Yeah, I know. I'm just saying it's a pretty cool experience. It wasn't cool doing the defense not in person. Yeah, that kind of sucks, especially because let's be real here. And I'm saying this with the least amount of ego possible. I probably would have been the one with the biggest audience. Yeah, I feel like I actually have.
00:27:48
Speaker
It's cool seeing the number at the bottom of your Zoom call, but like- I had a decent amount. I had like 20 something people there. Yeah. I had like 18. Um, but because, because especially, um, for the underclassmen who have to like go watch a senior thesis and are required to go watch two or something. Like I just know everyone would have been like, Oh, I'm watching this idiots. I'm like, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, basically, um, they would have turned it into a meme.
00:28:20
Speaker
which would have been great for me, not for the first five minutes, but afterwards, it would have been great. But yeah, imagine if our school had memes. There's so many me about moments in school, but it's cool that I had like, because of the fact that it was online, I could have friends that like, can't like, Oh yeah, that was pretty cool. Like, and like, that was really cool. Yeah. Cause there would have been no way that my parents would have been able to like, wash my thesis.

Rupert the Dog's Visit

00:28:46
Speaker
oh today today a dog showed up at our door when we were we were cleaning right my dad and i we uh we were putting some fake grass in our backyard and uh a dog just showed up and we're like yo there's a dog here my dad was like let's give it some water kill it oh you are an awful human being so it's just the asian in him i i didn't want to say that to like not be racist but anyways um
00:29:16
Speaker
So he was a very cute dog. He very much liked me more than any of anybody else in the house. Like he kept following me around. We couldn't bring him inside the house, unfortunately, because he was very dirty. We didn't know if he had like a rabies, like rape or like a worms or anything like that. So yeah, you worms, you know, you can get worms in your dogs and get worms. Yeah. The worms are in them and or on their butthole. Yeah. Anyways, so colon assimilate into another human being.
00:29:46
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't see any on him. So I was I was less reluctant to pet him and whatnot. So, you know, I was chillin with him. I named him Rupert because he looked like a Rupert. He was he very much like stretching and he very much liked vibing with me in the in the porch and his owners came for him. So I said, is someone taking a piss? That's Noah. I'm pretty sure.
00:30:11
Speaker
So I said goodbye to Ruby. Oh. Are you washing your hands? Yes. All right. We're going to get into the deep questions now. Connor. Connor is Connor. What about Connor? Connor is Connor. All right. We got some serious deep questions. Like this is, I don't know. This is something. So I'm very serious.
00:30:42
Speaker
It's not serious. It's just deep. All right. I'm going to give you some background. So I have this class. I have this class in ASU. It's called HSC. I don't know what it's an acronym. I don't know what stands for, but there is. Anyway, so basically in the class, we talk about like how you are supposed to like talk to people.
00:31:11
Speaker
You know what I mean? And like treat them with kindness. It's a weird class. But the one thing that I took away from it is that people are really weird. Yeah, people are weird. And I started like, you know, like when you're when you're sitting late at night and you start thinking about stuff and you wonder deep things about life. Why your life is so miserable and sad. Why you can't be loved. Why you can't love and be loved.
00:31:43
Speaker
yeah that never happens yeah basically and I was like I was doing some like research on it because I have to write a paper on it and it's the art of spiritually like deconstructing yourself and this guy wrote like an article like a whole thing on it and he talked about how you know how just like those open-faced sandwiches no
00:32:11
Speaker
You don't know what an open-faced sandwich is? Like a pizza? Or a bagel? No, there's like an open-faced sandwich, it's like... Like a sandwich with no top bun? There is a top bun, it's just not on the top, it's on the side. Like a hotdog? Like a retarded sandwich! Like a hoagie or something? Like a hero! Wait, what'd you call it again?

Mind as an Open-Faced Sandwich

00:32:43
Speaker
Sandwich. It's literally just a sandwich, right? But you just open it up, right? So it's like make a turkey and cheese sandwich, right? Put them together and then you just pull them apart and then just
00:33:09
Speaker
Imagine you make a bagel, right? You put cream cheese on it, right? And then there's two bagels side by side. That is an open sandwich or an open bagel. Okay. He is not explaining this, right? I am literally looking at a picture of it right now. That's what it is. So you understand, right? It's a retarded sandwich.
00:33:31
Speaker
As long as you have this image in your head, I'm gonna continue my story. Fair enough. Anyway, the guy said... He's like, I can't believe I've been disrespected. I can't believe you've done this. I can't believe you've done this. Sit down for a spot of tea while I pull your necklace down.
00:33:55
Speaker
anyways um for what purpose i need to remove your knickers now or else i will immediately i need to i need to i did not go the the compartments of your truck pantaloons for what purpose why we gotta put your fingers anyways people thinking
00:34:22
Speaker
Anyways, the guy has said imagine your brain like an open-faced sandwich and you gotta like Let some stuff air out. You know, I mean like thoughts that you have inside You can't keep everything bottled inside because you're just gonna blow up And I feel like we should spiritually deconstruct ourselves Let's do it. Let's just do it. I got
00:34:47
Speaker
I got a couple questions just to ask you guys. Don't take your pants off, no. Shrooms or something? Can we take a couple of seconds? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let the sandwich sink in. Make the sandwich open. Stop being closed. Make it open.
00:35:18
Speaker
We're letting it sink in. When British people see a drone in the sky? Drowning it! All right. Are you guys ready? Yeah, I'm ready. You guys are ready? OK, we're going to start off simple, just putting your foot in the hot water. What's the first thing you grab in the morning? The first thing I grab in the morning? My glass is back.
00:35:48
Speaker
Well, that would be me if I didn't just I don't know sometimes sometimes I I I'm feeling a little aggressive and ready to murder half half of a
00:36:05
Speaker
Country and I get up and I go about you just need to see who you're killing No, I just go about my morning cheating without even touching my glasses like I'll shower eat breakfast Get ready for work and then you consider that aggressive you can submit No, it's just I just can't see anything. So I don't know but you said sometimes I get a little aggressive No, I was just a play. It was you know what bro. Just don't worry about it. Yeah, I
00:36:31
Speaker
I mean, I kind of agree with him. There's just, I don't know, firstly, personally. Like sometimes when I just feel angry against the world, I just feel like no, no vision for you for the first 30 minutes. No vision for you today. And by you, you mean like yourself. Correct. Like I'll be telling myself no vision for you. No, he takes people's eyeballs out. I don't know that I pick up Christian morning. Probably my phone, yeah. All right. All right. I was going to say my phone too. Usually it's my phone afterwards. Yes.
00:37:01
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. We're not going to continue on this. We're just going to keep this open. You know what I mean? Keep it open. Yeah. Second question. Who is your biggest inspiration in life? My biggest inspiration? My dad probably. I respect that. I respect that.
00:37:23
Speaker
immigrated into the country at 17 literally had absolutely nothing started from scratch and when he was actually going somewhere he got robbed and then he had to start from scratch again and now he's sitting here with uh four kids about to retire in a nice house and he gets to
00:37:39
Speaker
enjoy his days off and soon he's going to be able to enjoy retirement. Started from the bottom now we're here. He is the definition of started from the bottom. He is the definition of living the American dream. So if I had to choose someone it'd be probably be my dad. Sick, sick. I don't know that's a hard question because I'm like trying to think of
00:38:05
Speaker
yeah i don't say i wouldn't say i have like a specific person in mind there's nobody i look up because like every day i'll think about it you know yeah there's no one there's no one that has famous people nowadays are just stupid and sucks so i don't really i mean if we're talking about if we talk about famous people i'd probably say like christiana rinaldo or something like that or like marcus rashford just because you know
00:38:30
Speaker
Well also just because of the fact that they like discipline themselves to be the best that they like. Ronaldo was literally like a he used to brush streets and like the streets are like literally brush like sidewalks in the streets of Portugal and he was like super scrawny and now he's like multi-million dollar athlete because of the fact that he literally just like did not stop working and what he wanted you know and then Marcus Rashford same way
00:38:56
Speaker
uh you know made his professional athlete debut at 18 years old and now he's like at he's like 23 or something like that and he like uh he's viewed as like honorary royalty or something like that in the uk and he like feeds uh like needy children he has like a bunch of charity foundations so that's pretty cool nice i also look up to little uzi vert now i want to pick diamond on my forehead no i just like his car dude
00:39:26
Speaker
His car? Yeah, look up little Uzi Vert car right now. Connor's going to hate me. I'm going to be so scared. Ew, what the heck? What color is this? That is wrong. Is it pink and blue? It's not color. It's just anime girl.
00:39:54
Speaker
It's just it's a it's a it's an Audi R8 with anime girl all over it. What? Yeah, dude. Let's not tell us this Christ. Hmm. Wow. That is a car that exists. What in the world? This is like something Leo would. Yeah, this is when Leo becomes rich. When when Leo becomes a rapper. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Big, big daddy Leo.
00:40:24
Speaker
He's like, yeah, yeah, I got that R of the R8 with the animator. Don't disrespect him. Just shut up. Don't disrespect him ever again. Don't disrespect my king ever again. Next fucking question. OK.

Inspirational Role Models

00:40:43
Speaker
I was gonna say my dad too, but I mean like I feel like I feel like we're like too early in our life. Well I feel like all dudes should should at least say their dad because... Well I guess they're dad actually. It's disrespectful. Well no because I feel like that's is the best other male that they know is their dad. Yeah yeah I know yeah that's what I want to say like we're too early in our lives to have another person that we look up to. Or you know your older brother sometimes. I mean yeah well I yeah.
00:41:13
Speaker
Like not everybody has like a, yeah, nobody has like a, some people don't have father figures, you know? So sometimes they find other people to look up to. I actually really look up to my old soccer coach cause he coached me for like seven years and he really, he helped me out with some good life lessons. So very helpful man. Shout out coach Hall. Great man. Depict someone. I guess I'd say someone like Arnold Schwarzenegger. He seems like he has life together.
00:41:40
Speaker
Oh yeah. Except for the fact that he did steroids during his peak years. No, no. That was a thing. That was the thing back then. That wasn't in the 80s, right? That was only in the 70s. That's when he started the bodybuilding scene as more than Jesse. But he's a Terminator. No one could replace him as a Terminator.
00:42:08
Speaker
I don't, I can't, yeah. I get like entirely just credits all that he's done. I'm just saying like, people can do good things and make bad decisions. Yeah. All right. Are you ready to move on?
00:42:35
Speaker
All right. All right. So we start off pretty easy. We're going to go a little bit up. How do you feel when you get into your bad side? My bad side? Like when you get angry, or like when you get, I don't know, when your judgment is clouded. When you're when, I feel like, I feel like, either like, either during or after.
00:43:04
Speaker
Cause when I'm, when I'm like very upset, it's just straight to tunnel vision. And I just don't feel like I don't, I don't think I don't like process information. I'm just like, okay, here's what I'm going to do. And that's, that's the only solution. Like if I'm very upset with somebody, it's just straight to the getting dog shadow. You know,
00:43:31
Speaker
I used to have a severe injury problem, especially in my elementary school days and early middle school days. It flashed up again every now and then in high school.
00:43:42
Speaker
But yeah, I agree with Noah. Tunnel vision, really extreme, really explosive. But now recently, I've learned to kind of die down or just process things out. Don't do anything. Don't say anything until I've processed things and calmed things down. So nowadays, I just get really quiet and just reserved. And I won't say anything, which I feel is a trait that it's good to have because
00:44:11
Speaker
You got to keep your cool-headedness when situations arrive. I feel like your guard is down when you get that state, and you can just start blabbering things that you made. If you're talking to someone and you get upset, you don't want to say something that might
00:44:31
Speaker
The hurt them or like, you know, actually like go beyond beyond. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like conundrum that's angering, you know. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I agree. Keeping like reserved. Yeah. No, bro. I used to be like Aaron friggin Jaeger. Just like any small thing happened. I just get up. Oh, you know what I mean? Tyler one. Yeah. Yeah. Tyler one rage. Yeah. Essentially. Yeah. And I don't know.
00:44:59
Speaker
just sometimes taking a step back and observing. There's nothing wrong with being angry, especially when it's justified, but never go outside of justification, never do something that's illogical due to a silly emotion. We should go candle shopping.
00:45:22
Speaker
Bro, why are you talking about spiritual deconstructing and now you want to go candle shopping? I don't know. Are you trying to open your third eye? Yeah, but you want to like, you want to do shrooms with me and like open our third eye or something? Like, no, I just know that I've done shrooms or anything. It's just like, like candle shopping is, is a, it's a deep place. Cause you gotta like clear your mind. You gotta clear everything. It's like not cool. So your nasal passages can accept this, uh, descent.
00:45:50
Speaker
Usually if I if I get candles, I'll try to get something nostalgic or something that I like like, you know I really like vanilla the smell of vanilla Not when it's pungent because it can't be very pungent But I've always enjoyed the smell of vanilla or like hazelnut Or I'm a wood person like like I like wood too. I like like like
00:46:10
Speaker
You ever known like a, like a breezy, you ever been at like a, like on an Island or something where it's like you're by the beach and there's like a forest kind of. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is, that's my favorite. That's the shit that hits bro. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Do you want to go candle shopping tomorrow after I kidnap you and you should, we can go candle shopping for a little bit. We should, we should go tee shopping, bro. That's what I'm saying. Just like,
00:46:35
Speaker
Tasted by I have like a list of places that I want to check out because I haven't been able to check out everything in downtown or like places in Scottsdale or Chandler's often There is this really good Italian restaurant that I won't take you guys to that's really cool. I'll bet what's it called? It's called pomo pomo. Yo, I still haven't taken you to the Italian deli We got a lot to do we're slowly and slowly finally starting to be able to like Achieve that now, you know, I know
00:47:06
Speaker
crazy um yeah uh we can only go up from here yep excuse me um all right wait connor you didn't answer the question um the can no the one about your bad sign oh deep one um
00:47:34
Speaker
i feel like i don't really get angry i just get annoyed sometimes with other stuff but i mean other than that i don't i don't really want to kill anyone ever i don't yeah i don't know i just don't feel a need to
00:48:01
Speaker
to get emotionally invested in something. You're just like calm and collected. I guess. Or just nothing bothers me. Yeah, same.
00:48:17
Speaker
Like I see, I see Bill get angry. I've seen Jacob get angry. What? This is Kat. This is very true. I've seen you get angry. You've seen me get angry. It is a dangerous thing when I get angry, bro. It is dangerous, bro. Yeah, I've seen, I've seen, yeah. Have I seen you? Yes, I have. I've seen you.
00:48:42
Speaker
Well, I, I usually, I usually gets angry at like at rainbow. I've seen, I've seen Noah angry, like, especially in the earlier years of high school.
00:48:58
Speaker
Like sophomore year, sometimes. You're specifically picking out a date and time. Like I just knew it was like, sophomore year. October 13th? No, sophomore year, it's an entire school year, you know? I was also very angry frequently, sophomore year too. Sophomore year was just not a fun time for me. Neither was senior year to be honest, but at least the first half of it.
00:49:28
Speaker
Yeah. All right. Now we're going to get deep. Oh, now we're getting deep on the surface level. All right. All right. Yeah, it's the surface level. We're going to go with questions, basically. Yeah. All right. So this is this going to be. So here's the question. Do you think chemistry is instant or grows with time?

Instant Chemistry vs. Developing Bonds

00:49:54
Speaker
Are you referring to like chemistry between people?
00:49:57
Speaker
Yes, not the substance. Not the science that activates. I was about to say, oh, it depends on the chemical reaction. Yeah, the entropy of the enthalpy. Shut up. I'm sorry. Get out. Jacob never gets angry.
00:50:13
Speaker
That wasn't even jigger, that was just fucking with him. I was just messing with Aiyush. Aiyush and I always have a rivalry where we just tell each other to shut up and hit each other. And then we go... Yeah, and then we hold hands and skip into the sunset.
00:50:31
Speaker
I don't know about the last part, but yeah. This is literally facts bro, like parking lot era of Anthem Prep High School. We never held a handsome brand to the sunset. We would dance at the parking lot. Yeah, we're gonna need fact checkers on this one. There was quite a lot of dancing. Yeah, we did dance a lot. No, do you remember? We have like four separate videos of Ayush and I literally just like,
00:50:57
Speaker
going in an all-out war after school like because we both felt like yes I don't like we took each other's shoes yes sometimes teachers didn't even stop us like we just be sitting there like right outside the lockers and just like beating each other okay okay okay okay is this not is this not true this is true and you have to admit it
00:51:22
Speaker
I would not agree, you're warning, beat each other. Beating, like hurting, like just smacking each other with like chunkles, drugs. Yes, I know. Yes, that was pretty fun. I never lost either. I think I might have lost once or twice. Yes. Out of four. It was four times, I can count it, it was four times. 75% victory boys.
00:51:51
Speaker
Anyways, moving on. Chemistry, is it instant or does it grow with time? Okay, so there's parts of chemistry, specifically the interaction aspect that start out usually pretty strong for most people. You can tell if you are going to have five with somebody pretty quickly.
00:52:16
Speaker
But those, those deeper moments, you know, where you're sitting in the car, you know, family issues or their relationship. That's where it takes time, where it takes a little bit of time. I don't know. Sometimes like with any degree of real severity. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. Sometimes people just like.
00:52:37
Speaker
Uh, like I've, I've got a couple, I've had a couple friends where we literally just like, you know, it doesn't necessarily mean it, it is a connection. You're having a connected moment. Yeah. I mean, I feel like there's chemistry and like the platonic term, like, like just, you know, two people like being agreeable with each other and just like being really similar and just like clicking. And then there's also like the romantic type of, uh, well, yes, because there are multiple forms of love.
00:53:05
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. So that's why I'm distinguishing it. I'd say, I don't know, I've, I've had plenty of friends where I just meet them, you know, for the first time and we just click it's really nice and whatnot. And then even sometimes like when we have that like deep time, you know, it'll, it'll just work out fine. Like it won't always work out fine. You know, there might be a little, a little here and there, but it's not like it. It's that too big of a problem in terms of friendship, at least it's not always a good thing.
00:53:34
Speaker
to always be like instantly like compatible with someone because you still got to like learn the in and outs. You might treat them in a way that just because you click that easily, they might not want to be treated like that, you know, or like you might have like false expectations or whatnot. But I don't know for relationships, like, like romantic ones. I mean, to a certain degree, I'd say yes, but I don't know. I feel like you really have to get to know someone for like chemistry to start building in that sense.
00:54:05
Speaker
because you can't really just like, you know, it's not like, you know, look at someone and be like, I want to marry this person immediately. You know what I mean? Like you kind of got to know the ins and outs of them, experience time with them, gets another past, why not? So I'd say depending on this, uh, like level of relationship, yes or no. Yeah. I mean, I feel like, I feel like we talked about this like a little bit before, but like when you're like,
00:54:31
Speaker
picking a friend not picking a friend I've been like when you were selecting the type of human that you wish to surround yourself with which is it's fair you can't pick friends I do it you know I mean yeah I'm not gonna hang out with people who are gonna like negatively impact me you know what I mean like if I were taking you three guys if I just like looked at you I probably want like
00:54:51
Speaker
be like, hey, you want me friends? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
00:55:20
Speaker
Okay, no, I'm saying, okay, if you're in time, we definitely could, you know, I know. Yeah, I've been blessed to be like, to join some people who have all been friends together for a while. And then I come Oh, yeah, I agree with that. I'm saying like, if we were to take like, shout out to the HSM homies. Continue. Sorry. Um, I don't know where's going. What was I saying? Yeah. So
00:55:45
Speaker
like if you were to take I don't know like yeah I guess if you were to take like us four right like we got we got a good thing going and we'll let like like Ephraim for example I feel like Ephraim is a good um how do I say this see we're broom 722 we have the thing
00:56:04
Speaker
We have the thing so this is this is where it gets different because this is when we're like I was talking with someone about this recently where it's like you label people as groups that some people are part of a group and some people aren't and it makes people feel excluded and whatnot. I wouldn't say it's like the way I do it is more of due to experiences and not more of like due to how much I care about the person because I'm telling you right now I will never put one friend above the other hundred percent. Yeah, if I like
00:56:35
Speaker
Like if any one friend that I actually care about and then actually like I feel cares about me I will like help him out in any way I can you know like I'm not gonna put you from above you guys just because He's not in room 72 nor am I gonna put you guys above you from just because he wasn't
00:56:53
Speaker
because, you know, I've also played soccer with me, you know, we like, he and I went through struggles together and whatnot. And like, we've always like hung out, you know? Yeah, there's experiences like that's something our situation is weird because we got like a bigger friend group and then we kind of split into smaller groups, like smaller entities. And I feel like that happens with a lot of people too, like not just our
00:57:17
Speaker
Scenario, but also people who like might not know is personally who yeah. Yeah room 722 didn't exist until like room 722. Yeah. Yeah Yeah before that I and I guess you could say that we was like we were still homies we were like Homies is like a generic group that has every homie and then we can kind of like split them off from there like there was there was the Baljeetles that was a smaller one right and then we had like
00:57:45
Speaker
groups where we'd meet up that was a smaller one like pickleball groups i think that's that like personally i wouldn't treat you differently depending on what yeah yeah you want it's more based on it's more it's more the grouping is more like like for experiences not just for like
00:58:03
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. Like I used to be part of a friend group. There was four of us and other people wanted to be part of friend group and then they didn't allow them to be in that friend group. And I was like, yo, this is kind of like toxic, you know, like just because, just because we want to have a status quo and have a name and have a certain amount of people. So it's two and two. I was like, you know, we can still all hang out together, you know, and just like,
00:58:27
Speaker
doesn't mean that it can't be one group with a certain name. And I was just like, I found that ridiculous when it happened. And yeah, people are dumb and they're unnecessarily disagreeable. There are, there are two kinds of people in this world. They're, they're agreeable and disagreeable people. And that's about it. To me, there isn't really. Wait, question. Who, who, who did this?
00:58:56
Speaker
see if it's let me put let me put it simply I'm not gonna act differently if it's room 722 or if it's room 72 and a bunch of other boys like Ephraim and you know Matthew and whatnot you know I'm still gonna be the same person I'm just still love each other but that's just because of experiences there's different groups that we name or whatnot but
00:59:16
Speaker
You know, yeah, like groups, groups that base off as simply because they clicked that one time and they're like, we don't think it's going to happen. We don't need anyone else. Yeah, that's wrong. Like, yeah, I mean, I, it should work. I enjoyed hanging out with them. I enjoyed hanging out with the four of them when it sometimes, you know, just hanging out with a small group is fine. And I understand that sometimes I won't be invited to small groups. I'll be like, Ooh, sick invite. But it's not like I'll be like genuinely hurt. You know, sometimes people just want to hang out with one or two people.
00:59:45
Speaker
And that's perfectly fine. It's not like we're adults. We got to learn that.

Friend Group Dynamics and Inclusivity

00:59:50
Speaker
People have limits and bubbles. We're not going to be invited to everything and it's not because they hate us. If there's a repeated pattern and if they don't actually make enough time for you, that's different. We're adults and basing our livelihoods around what other people are doing. Exactly. Yeah.
01:00:13
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know, especially in that whole situation. I just felt like it could have been handled a lot better and we could have just been like, you know, we can all hang out sometimes, but sometimes just the four of us want to hang out together.
01:00:24
Speaker
But, you know, I think it's called Ailema. And we would have meetings at Starbucks of who we want to hang out with. Yeah, see, that's just dumb. That's a cool idea. Yeah, this is not the Ku Klux Klan. So the Klan meeting next week, it's not like, no, not a U-shirt. It has to be natural. We can't pick and choose. And some people do that. And it's stupid.
01:00:51
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, again, like, I feel like if if a bigger group were to split and to make smaller ones, but at the end, the end goal is like a bigger group does meet. And there is like retrospective plans, right. And then these smaller groups just want to meet by themselves. I think that's a different situation. I think that's what we kind of got.
01:01:13
Speaker
a little bit of like cool group meets a lot for the rest of ever yeah yeah yeah the smaller ones i feel like yeah like jacob say it's just like experience but at the same time you know not everything has to be about experience just because us four have a podcast and we stayed in a hotel room together so i mean we're gonna be like no no no you're not there
01:01:40
Speaker
Yeah, right, right. The thing is also, you know, when, uh, cause we're starting to grow up now, it's, it's just hard to find time for a lot of people. And it's just, it's naturally easier to just, you know, stick with a couple of good people instead of trying to please a lot of everyone. And I feel like people are with that already. Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:07
Speaker
to live out high school in a sense, but nope, your time's up. I feel like even for some of us here on this podcast, I don't know, especially earlier in the schoolyard, complain when people wouldn't make time, but I get everyone's busy, but people aren't just gonna make time just because for like- Yeah, times have changed, and it's really hard to accept it, but at the same time, you gotta move on a little bit. Things have changed. The game has changed. It's fine.
01:02:36
Speaker
between right and wrong. And if they just and if they don't include you in just doing a small circle to like exclude you that's that's that's just to be exclusive because that's their problem just not yours exactly like
01:02:59
Speaker
You know, if it has to be small groups, so be it. If I could hang out with like 15 people that I like all care, that I care all about very deeply and it works and we can do it frequently, I'd be more than happy to do that. Realistically, that's not possible. That's the fact. Jacob just wants to join the only girls chat. Thanks. Jacob's like, what are you talking about? Happens in there anyway, so. Yeah. Um.
01:03:27
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. That was good. That was good. They don't, uh, they don't come, they don't guess our Dixos. Um, I'm sure they've done that already. This is with a 7.5.
01:03:47
Speaker
All right, let's go back to it. Let's find a segue where we can... 7.5. Okay, fair enough. Next question. Yeah, next question. Yeah, we're going deeper in. Oh, even deeper. We're just spreading that heat. Okay, let's not make it any weirder than already. What makes you guys laugh? Funny things. All right, next question. All right, next question. What makes me laugh at other people's suffering?
01:04:14
Speaker
Oh, yes, sir. Dude, you sound like a joke right now. I don't know. Sometimes, like, especially recently, whenever I'm, like, in a good moment, like, yeah, I don't know. Sometimes, like, I'll just be driving, like, I'll be on the I-17 or the 101, right? And I'll just be like... You start laughing? Yeah, low key, because I'm just, I'm looking around, like, sometimes, like, you're so stressed out about just, like, uh, like, life and school. You're forgetting to take your
01:04:45
Speaker
You just have to laugh. Yeah. No, like I'll just be like driving around, listening to music with a medical goes down and I'll just be like, yo, this is lit. You know, and I'll just have a little chuckle to myself. Life says every sane person ever. No, it's not like I'm crazy. You're like, it's just like, I get you. I get you. You just got to appreciate the little things because if you're too focused on everything, like I'd like, I don't know.
01:05:12
Speaker
Yeah, I agree with that. Maybe I sound crazy. If I am, that's fine. I've always been crazy. Nothing wrong. It's just with I laugh to myself sometimes. No. You know, you have your inside jokes. If it's a good vibe, you know, sometimes I'll just like look around and I'll see like everyone like like if I'm in a big group, everyone's lively and I'll just like, I'll just smile because, you know,
01:05:36
Speaker
life is good you know like i won't laugh i won't be like yeah just like you're dead silent everyone else is just having their own conversation you just laugh like exactly like that exactly like you just laugh and everyone just stares daggers just stare and it's not like when i'm driving either and i see the sunset i'm like funny sun going down no i'll just i'll just like chuckle quietly and be like when the sun be letting
01:06:11
Speaker
Yeah, I agree with Jacob. I would say that like moments where you feel like life's good is when you, I wouldn't laugh. I feel, I feel like I'm happy. Usually I just smile. Yeah, you smile when you're hanging with those people that are really close to you. Yeah. I laugh a lot with people who I'm really close to or just like, you know, just like vibing in the car, screaming at music.
01:06:35
Speaker
Like a couple of days ago, I was literally just screaming Voulet vous at the top of my fucking lungs and just dying of laughter. And then like a couple of days before that, I was like with Ephraim and David and Zach, right? And we were all just fucking like, we were having a good time. Like literally just outside of my house, like looking at photos that we were taking of each other and how stupid we looked. And we were just laughing our heads off. Cause you know, just, it's funny. Yeah. And then with the homies, I'm always laughing with the homies, these four.
01:07:04
Speaker
I don't think there's an episode where I haven't left, you know? What's happened to one where you weren't there? Yeah, that's facts. That was that was a dark day because I lost so much stuff on my phone. And you guys just continued without me. Now we have a pact that we can't continue with it. Yeah, yeah, we have. But no, you guys, they're a show must go on. Yes. I laugh when people die.
01:07:34
Speaker
Okay, okay, okay That's cap. That's cap. That's cap. That's cap. I mean what's the number for the cops? Okay Well, okay just good good job
01:08:01
Speaker
Anyone, well, that's not true. Not anyone can tell a good joke. It really does depend on the person telling the joke. This is facts. But timely jokes, you know? If it's timed well and like it's not like premeditated, you know, or just like, I don't know. Or like sometimes when like we've been even playing jack box recently with some of the homies and like
01:08:26
Speaker
Sometimes things happen where just two things line up and it's really funny and I'll just be sitting there laughing at my PC and my dad's like it is 1030 at night. Why are you howling like a dying hyena? Yes, I don't know what that noise was in the background but cool but yeah, also just like some situations, you know, just like
01:08:44
Speaker
wouldn't be funny sometimes but like it is like i remember in high school like somebody would be and then i'd just be saying like like trying to contain my laughter because for some reason looking at a person and going like from across the room is just the funniest thing on planet earth you know imagining it is still pretty funny to be honest
01:09:18
Speaker
That wasn't HL, that was freakin' freak out, bro. No, but I found a video. I found a video of Josiah, right? Previous guest, right? It's him trying not to laugh because we're in the middle of a 7-0. He walks over, right, to get a box of tissues. He holds up the tissues and drops them and goes, oh no, I dropped them. And you bend over to pick up the tissues. His face is a tomato, bro.
01:09:38
Speaker
when we'd just be sitting in like HL and then you go
01:09:46
Speaker
and i'm looking back on this two years later like why did we find this like you just dropped the box of tissues and and you can hear me like recording like like trying not to die right it's just who you're with and yeah it's also this area where you're not supposed to laugh honestly bro furious so it makes you want to laugh yeah the teat the classes where the teachers were chill and everything were were awesome or like moments where like
01:10:14
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in the class something happens and then like it it stays like it's a recurring thing or like someone brings it up again and again like that's pretty I like it he just got to be chill he just got to calm down alright illegal books learning yeah shut up okay yeah honestly alright um alright we're gonna we're gonna jump back and just ahem

Self-Image and Perception

01:10:44
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What do you guys, what do you guys think of your self image? Really? Okay. Yes. Apparently, um, I come off as very standoffish. I've asked some people at the beginning of college year, what they thought of me and they that I like hated everyone. And so it is how I interact with people.
01:11:17
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like okay okay we'll go deeper later all right i don't know i obviously i've known noah for a really long time i mean what what does standoffish mean i honestly don't know oh we're gonna like i just we're gonna delve deep into into these answers and cold and nowhere unfriendly i mean i don't know dude i noah's usually a pretty warm-hearted guy like sometimes he he comes off as a little unfriendly but it's not like it's not like he's always angry you know and he'll usually like
01:11:50
Speaker
No one can be that massive and no one could be that fucking massive right and not Yeah, yeah, I said yeah, I'm just have so much thought thrown means facts, right There you go, there's your there's your image imagine imagine how standoffish Arnold Schwarzenegger might be Yeah, dude. I don't know
01:12:15
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Maybe it's because you're like a large dude that some people find you imposing, you know? It wasn't because it was large, apparently it's like conversing. I don't know. Sometimes usually when you're in a new place like college, you try to like act cooler and sometimes, you know, you seem a little ruder and whatnot, but I don't know. I've apparently become a lot more introverted.
01:12:42
Speaker
That's something that I've been told a lot. I think we all have, question mark. Yeah, I know. But my ability to talk to people used to be really good, but now it's not. I don't know. My self-image has definitely changed a lot. Comparatively from the first two years of high school to the second, I would say there's a pretty drastic change. Yeah.
01:13:03
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And now I feel like I've kind of regressed a little bit because I always used to talk to people and have a good time and always go out. But now I'm more like head down, work hard. You'd rather stay at home. No, I would not. But I have no other choice. So I mean, I'm not going to waste that opportunity. I'm just going to keep my head down, work hard, whatnot. I had a lot of battles with my own head when college first started.
01:13:32
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I mean, I feel like, yeah, I feel like college was really hard coming from like summer of last year where I was just at home. I didn't like meet or see anyone. And then going straight into like huge campus, lots of people. And like you had like two choices. You could either like, you know, find a group and then just like move in and not really think of anything else or like,
01:14:00
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You know, just get your stuff done and leave. Right. And ASU is like a huge campus. So, I mean, you're, you're going to have to do one of those. And like at the beginning, I would just kind of like go to class, get to my car and then go home. You know what I mean? Grab like lunch. They have like Chipotle. I like Chipotle. He met that lady.
01:14:21
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Showed me he showed me a photo of that lady. You should not be able to pull women of that caliber. I use No, let me no, let me let me let me I want to take that back. I want to take that back How do I put this that is not how you talk to someone No Especially your only brown friend
01:14:50
Speaker
The picture send the picture then I don't why do I why do I have to send them the photo though? I don't want to do it Don't look at her face again. Oh Well, that's weird It is I'm not gonna go deep listen. Let me see if you have it then send it if not It's gonna work. I think you sent it to me on like texting. So how do I how do I put this like I?
01:15:19
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I guess you don't know how to put this no because because it seems rude any way to put it just say it I don't I don't I don't take things personally to snow because I'm always the one who says I use just likes uber attractive and he is and he can't pull any lady so I don't know why I said it like that you know yeah well no it's just like that no girl I nobody's worthy oh my gosh that's her yeah that's what I'm saying
01:15:48
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She looks like she looks a couple years older is what I'm trying to say. I didn't know you were into MILFS is what I'm trying to say. I think that's a good way to put it. I think that's a good way to put it. I mean, if it helps, she's younger than me. I don't know if that makes it better. In my opinion, I mean, I guess if Ayush wanted to, he could
01:16:17
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Easily lowered his standards to someone of this level. Yeah, but like come on Okay, oh Let me just say okay in my defense, I don't know I don't find her attractive personally, so I guess that's why All right, but I mean I wouldn't date her but she's cute. I would say she's not cute. She's she's like I
01:16:42
Speaker
There's a different there's a difference. Yes. There definitely is. All right. Yeah. She's definitely hot more than she is cute. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, and that's what I'm saying is I thought you were more of a cute girl type of guy, you know Yeah, that's that. Yeah, that's what I thought right? Okay, here's my defense, okay
01:17:23
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no i'm not no that that's a no no uh-uh no i'm not um for those who don't know listeners i'm not with this person anymore um long story not going to get into that
01:17:31
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Yeah, so for for those of you don't know I'm not yeah, yeah, okay Yeah, I would I would I'm gonna give some back sides as well. So you're fine, bro Yeah, so in my so for those of you don't know choosing to
01:17:38
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I thought we were opening up our anal cavities to express ourselves. Just give us the, like, cliff notes. Cliff notes, yes. So this female, I was in a relationship with her. And Winter Break came, and I told her that, because we're not meeting in person, that she should keep her phone, you know, like, text and stuff.
01:18:08
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And then one day her dad found out and it was not good. So we ended it. She wants to stay friends. I'm like, hell no. That's how we do it. So is this like the origin story to switching to white woman now?
01:18:34
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No, no, no, I, I don't. Okay, listen here. Okay. Let me, okay. I'm going to give my explanation of why this went down and like, so like I said, it's college. I like personally, my expectation of how is college is going to go. It's totally different, right? It is not how it went. Everything moved like really quick. And especially coming from like not seeing anyone over the summer.
01:19:02
Speaker
It was really weird seeing people and stuff moved quickly and I was lonely. So it just kind of like, you know, it was this really weird concoction of stuff that happened. I don't know why I did it. Again, like I just kind of like go back to it sometimes by trying not to think about too deep. But it's it's like, you know, when you like do something and you think you're OK and then like one day you think about it and you're like, why did I do that?
01:19:31
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This is kind of one of those moments. It's just like a regret. I don't know. Keep it simple. Not like women. No, no. It's just like this person is not who I would choose. Like if she hadn't given me a number, I probably went to gone to her and given my number. You know what I mean? Like it's not a personal choice that would make. She's pretty,
01:20:00
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Yeah, she's hot. I'd agree. Jacob, I'm not going to give it to you. She's pretty hot. But long term, I don't think so. I think what happened was a good thing. I think I got to give her dad a hug and then I got to run. Sometimes when you want someone a lot,
01:20:17
Speaker
And then you like, something happens that would prevent you two from being together. And you kind of see that person in a different light, not like, because you're not, mostly because of the fact that you're not attracted to them anymore, but also because like, that's out of the picture. So you see them in other circumstances, you know? And then you're kind of like, huh, you know, maybe it's a good thing this didn't happen. You know? Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I've been there once or twice now. So yeah. I mean, yeah, she's hard, but.
01:20:45
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I mean, I don't know. I just don't. I honestly didn't understand why I thought it might be cool. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm glad it ended. I'm glad it ended smoothly in my in my way in smoothly from my side. Yeah, you had no. I don't know if you know consequences that room and like pictures of me all over her bed in her room and some. I don't know what she's doing, but I'm fine. I moved on.
01:21:15
Speaker
I'm a free man now. Feels good. Nice. Still lonely, but whatever. It's fine. What does this have to do with the question? How'd we get here? What were we talking about again? Chemistry? Self image. You're talking about self image. Because you went to ASU a lot and then didn't show up. Yeah, yeah. So ASU's effect on me was like,
01:21:43
Speaker
not being so introverted like not being introverted before Backstreet Boys and then forcibly being introverted and then trying to go back to how it was before affected my like the way I thought about stuff about myself like I thought I was pretty good at being with people like friends and groups of people not maybe not meeting new people but like you know just being around people kind of like what Jacob said and then like
01:22:13
Speaker
I mean, I want to have like a scale. Like I haven't really seen a lot of people. Be honest. Um, my chain soon. I don't know. We'll see it. Cause like I can go do stuff. Yes, sir. We're going to party it up soon. Yeah, dude. No, I hope I can go to college in person next semester because I need to get my social skills back up.
01:22:42
Speaker
yeah yeah it's it's a hard getting back into it thing you know i mean like once you i feel like it shouldn't take too long for me it's like you think it's like riding a bike but it's not like it's it's like the way that you've created your persona and the way that you created the way that you present yourself to the world like
01:23:09
Speaker
once you're with people you're comfortable you don't have to change it but once like you go to college you don't it's not the same people it's new people so you gotta change it to how you think they may like like you you know what I mean or you just be yourself and let the people come to you shut the f*** up yeah that's that's how I at least was before like I was just myself if you hate me then like all right see ya you know
01:23:35
Speaker
And then coming from everything, going to college, I'm just like, I should be a better person. I don't want to be how I was. I want to be more mature. That's nuts. You want to be mature, more refined. Yeah, more refined. Yeah, exactly. I still feel like I have a positive outlook on my self-image.
01:24:02
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I don't hate myself.

Life Expectations vs. Reality

01:24:04
Speaker
You stupid idiot. How did you do that? I'm not beating myself up, but creative criticism is fine. Constructive criticism. It's not like a story that you're making or anything. I feel like some of us could agree that we're not in the spot that we thought we would be maybe two years ago.
01:24:33
Speaker
Well, yeah, I didn't expect I'd make it this far. Same. Same. I don't know. I figured I thought I'd be a little further. I'm happy with where I'm at right now. I'm not happy. I'm content to say the least. Yeah, content. I definitely desire more though.
01:24:52
Speaker
I desire more success. And it's a good thing though, right? Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just annoying. Like the thing I've been struggling with recently is like desiring more, but like that thing can't come to you until certain pieces fall into place and more than anything, you just have to be patient and you're kind of just stuck in limbo more than anything, you know? Yeah, like an endless cycle.
01:25:14
Speaker
And eventually you just have to keep doing the cycle until it breaks and then you can actually continue on with what you want to do, you know? But yeah, that's that's how it is It is what it is Yeah, I mean I guess if that's the way you wanted it That's not the way I want to do it though, but that's just the way it has I have to do it right now Well, how's it working for you then Connor? Well, I know I was just asking like
01:25:44
Speaker
How do you think, what do you think about your self image? Oh, um, I don't know. It's not exactly something that I think about or strive for often because I mean, when I'm around people, I don't have, I don't have time or energy to lie or be fake. So I mean, yeah, it, this,
01:26:12
Speaker
It's just how it is. I mean, I try to not be an ass. So I feel like I'm at least successful in that regard most of the time. I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't necessarily say that I'm like a golden boy or, you know, I'm not the worst there could be either.
01:26:37
Speaker
You're just chill. You don't do much. You're like a platypus. I enjoy how like blunt I wouldn't say I don't do much, but I don't. Well, you don't do much. I don't strive for drugs. You don't know much drugs. Actually we're saying drugs. You don't do much drugs.

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Dealing with Regrets and Growth

01:29:05
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Yeah, retarded sandwiches wide open mic vent don't you work? All right. It's a it's a two-parter. All right How do you guys deal with? Your regrets and then the second part of it is how do you guys deal with advice about? those regrets like Yeah Well, I don't tell people there's no need to I know what I did wrong and I
01:29:34
Speaker
I don't need more confirmation that what I did was wrong. Yeah, I've kind of started doing that too. It's just internalization, you know? Yeah, I mean, sometimes like, you're just like, well, that was stupid. But there's a reason why I was stupid was it was because I was stupid. And now you got
01:29:54
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And if there's a lesson to be learned that you haven't learned from a mistake yet, then that's when you ask someone about it. But usually learning from mistakes is like your own thing. You have to learn it yourself. You can't have just someone like.
01:30:09
Speaker
tell you what the mistake was you know because then it doesn't feel like you really like earned the right to like improve yourself upon such a mistake or regret I don't know there's some things that you can't fix upon you know like situationally they kind of just like like there's stuff I regret that I'll always regret and I won't be able to not regret them because like you know there's those things it's done what if you know what it's done you know but usually I just try to ignore them or
01:30:39
Speaker
just say, you know, I'm better than that, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Or just try to learn from them and make sure that if anything happens again, and I have like recently I've been trying to like, you know, use what I've learned to improve myself and it's been working for sure. Yeah, I agree. I mean, like you would get that like self satisfaction that you, I don't know, moved on from the regret or
01:31:09
Speaker
Like if it's a mistake that you did, then you get that satisfaction that you fixed it or something like that. Yeah. If like something happens again, you'd be like, the old me wouldn't have responded in this way or something like that. Or like, yeah. Or if like a similar situation comes up and you don't do it again. You get the satisfaction that you're not a fool or an idiot for not doing it again. Yeah.
01:31:35
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The best type of progression is one that you can see yourself because it motivates yourself to do more. So it's always good to have a chip on your shoulder. That's, that's deep. I'm proud of us boys. This was something, this was an endeavor. I feel like we all need a little bit about ourselves.
01:32:01
Speaker
This is like Gordon Ramsay 24 hours to hell and back. That's the thing. We've all known each other for years, and yet we can still learn about each other. I know. That's friendship. I like that. So sex tomorrow, my place. Yep, sex tomorrow. I bring the dildo. Just seven and a half inches. Last question. Nice and easy just to cap.
01:32:30
Speaker
Cap everything off? No cap, no cap. No, yes cap. We're going to cap it off with no cap. The question is, what would you give advice to a certain time in your life past self? Like an old you. What would you tell them? Like one thing? I'd go back to freshman year me. And I would say stop trying to be a people pleaser.
01:32:59
Speaker
Focus on yourself more bad things are going to come your way. You just have to I thought I thought you're going to go back to your softening yourself and stop fingering people please please don't whip your
01:33:14
Speaker
Not worth it, please don't it's stupid. No one wants to see that Don't know why you did it Because everyone else was faking doing it and i was like everyone else was doing it and we just had to show them up, right, right David and Zach were both doing it like they were pretending to do it and then I did it because I thought I was alpha, okay, bro I forgot that's how that works
01:33:44
Speaker
You're like, they're not doing it, but I will. It's not the first time any of us have whipped out our dick, okay? Yeah, you're right. Yeah, when you went to the bathroom. Did anyone else see it? No, you don't know that. No, I do. David's excellent. That's it. That's it. That's okay.
01:34:13
Speaker
Why do you know anyone else who saw it? Well, no, I'm just I'm just glad that we're laying down all the groundwork that only dudes have seen your dick.

Humorous Past Incidents

01:34:24
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Um, this is not true. Imagine if he dropped that towel in the hotel room. I am so glad that that I know. I know we would have died. What if a girl hadn't seen my pee pee?
01:34:41
Speaker
No, at the hotel room. When you answer the door to the teachers at the hotel. What? What? What did you just say? All right, bro.
01:34:52
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