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Ep. 178 – "I’m Steven Crowder, and I Trust the Attorneys at Jungle Law with All of My Petty Vendettas"
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This week we’re talking about ambulance-chasing billboard lawyers, the Israeli bombing of the Iranian consulate in Damascus, the retaliatory strike on Israel, and the dangerous upwelling of militarist rationale in the West. Then it’s time to crack the lid and peak in at the ever-devolving toilet kingdom that Steven Crowder has ruled with an iron fist… up until recently, that is. When last we discussed our free speech warrior chieftain, he was dealing with the fallout from a leaked video where a cigar-smoking Steven berated his pregnant wife for wanting to use the family car (Dave Ramsey said they only needed one, you know). However, in the wake of this negative attention, some former employees of Louder With Crowder have spoken up about the toxic work environment and ugly, vindictive tendencies that Steven has exhibited over the years. One of the people speaking out is Jared Monroe, aka Not Gay Jared, a former friend, cohost, and “surprisingly good kisser,” according to Mr. Crowder. God this is getting weird. All this and more on this week’s episode of Growing Up Christian!
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Jared's Personal Reflections
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I'm afraid of... I'm afraid, frankly, I used to have a bad temper. I'm afraid of it coming back. I'm afraid of Mr. Hyde rearing his ugly bisexual head. That was a short phase. I legitimately suck. I'm not gay Jared. It's a surprisingly good kisser. I'm not gay Jared. It's a surprisingly good kisser. I'm not gay Jared. It's a surprisingly good kisser.
Sam's Vacation and Drinking Habits
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Hey, everybody, we are back with another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. I'm Casey. And Casey, I'm coming to you. As you can tell, my background is different than normal. I have a treadmill behind me and a piece of art that I don't really think is very nice. I don't really know what that is. Like it's like you told me you were in a Hampton Inn gym right now.
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Yeah, it looks exactly like that, which is funny because I am I'm on vacation. I'm in the Outer Banks. I am in a absolutely gorgeous 8800 square foot home with 15 bedrooms and 15 bathrooms. This place is nuts. We're here with my wife's like almost entire family like immediate and a lot of extended and
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It's a lot of fun. Her cousins are all around our age too. Same with her brother. It's just fun. We're all hanging out and having a great time. I've been pacing myself today. I knew we were recording tonight. I waited until two to start drinking and I've been keeping it up on the lighter fare and keeping it spaced apart.
Interactions with Cops and Privilege
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I feel fine for doing this, but I wasn't sure. I was expecting you to notice immediately that I was wasted, but I did good today. So this kept me
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This kept me on the straight and narrow, so that way I was fully functional for this. Yeah, you seem lucid. I'm holding out for some alcohol-fueled latent racism to come up. Yeah. Well, when we're not recording, you might hear me get belligerent about how I feel about some things, like cops. I only bring that up because
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Recently, Casey did make fun of me for going hard on cops. He's like, what are you in eighth grade? I was like, got you back. I'm sorry. I like the cops when I was in eighth grade. So that one's on you. That's true. No, I thought it was funny. I mean, I was being a little bit of a bitch. I say that as someone who's never had any serious trouble with the cops. I'd like to thank my whiteness for that in my I have a really good
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Officer, yes, sir. My presentation is good for the cops. I think I have a good face for the cops, minus the pigmentation. But, you know, I can play it smooth. I've had a couple of traffic tickets. So really, a lot of my hate is unwarranted. But I've
Billboards and Messaging
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seen too many news clips that make me angry. Well, I feel that.
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At one time, I was in high school smoking cigarettes on a playground and they made me put that shit out. And I was not happy about that. So ever since then, right? It's not fair. I haven't taught is what I'm trying to say. It's tough. Anyway, I wanted to bring up a couple of things that I noticed on my drive down. Normally, I feel like I notice more things driving long distances because what else can you do? But
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Notice what you drive by. Count abortion billboards. Yeah, a lot of like the one eight hundred four truth ones. But, you know, oh, yeah, nothing is everywhere. Yeah, they're everywhere now. They really are literally everywhere. And you love to know what their budget is. And I've never called that number. How much do they spend just on billboards on a monthly basis? It's an insane amount. Like we should probably never get it. That would actually be a good little dive into
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who is behind the 1-800-4-TRUTH billboards and where their money comes from. I'd love to sit in there like a board of directors meeting, because like advertising, it's hard to track the effect of like your return on investment for advertising in general. But when you're counting it in terms of like souls one, it's got to be even more difficult. How can you tell? I mean, all you really have is the people who call that number,
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and say they get saved. What if we called it like every day and got saved just to see what we can do to their numbers? Dude, they've been just sitting in a meeting being like, well, we received 18,000 calls last month and 60% of those were Seymour butts.
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Yeah. The one that I saw that was new for me, because there's always like, there's some abortion, like billboards, I think one hundred and four tooth does some with that. But the one that stuck out to me was
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just kind of threatening. It was like, you don't have much time left. Like, ask Jesus to save you or something. You're like, I'm driving down the highway and it feels like like I maybe they're trying to get you thinking about like a car accident or whatever. But it's just like, I mean, I guess they just count our entire lives as short in the grand scheme of things. So get saved. But
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in somebody's backyard along the expressway. There are a lot of those. No, it was a legit billboard. It was going through, like, maybe the Philly area. Like, I think I was in the Philly area at that time. But what I noticed when I was going, Philly had, I mean, it was, I don't know if I was right in Philly, but bringing around that area, you could see, you know, it was a developed area. And all the, it was,
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I do want to call that number.
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weird because all the billboards were like the same 10. I saw the same several billboards constantly. The first one was like almost entirely billboards for like injury law firms.
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That was like every other billboard was like, have you been injured? Call this sack of shit and they'll figure it out. It's always like so like tons of those douchey looking chads on the billboard of just there's one that I saw that I remembered from last time I made this drive that gives me a chuckle. It's Brothers in Law.
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And it's like three old dudes and it's like brothers in law, something, something attorneys. And I'm like, are they brothers in law and their attorneys or are they like?
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brothers and they're in law and attorneys. It's hard to tell. I mean, when you're an old attorney, an old white attorney, you essentially all kind of look the same, I think. I think that's a look. The only differentiating factor is that there's a good like 28% of them that all of their billboards include them on a motorcycle and it's like attorneys that ride and you got to have like a crappy goatee.
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It's interesting. There was a couple billboards for attorneys that were clearly trying to reach a type of person. It's like their entire law firm caters towards
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Obviously, there's like the DUI crowd for sure, or the OUI crowd that's like their entire business exists. It's always like, you don't pay unless we win. It's like, well, you might pay because if you lose, you go to jail. I would like to see their legal definition of winning.
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The crazy one up here is in kansas city there's all these ones that say jungle law on them and the pictures are insane it's like i'm. It's like a long hair dude in a tars and outfit like swinging on a vine.
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And it's seriously like there's a whole series of them up in Kansas City, jungle law. What? Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. Nothing about it communicates like, oh, this is an attorney. Is that like law of the jungle? Is that the play? Is like law of the jungle? But I don't even know what that I don't know how that translates to being an attorney.
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Maybe that's what his office is called, is jungle law. I don't know. I've never actually looked it up. I just like see the billboards and I'm like, that is such a weird choice. But here it is, I'm talking about it. Like it clearly works. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's a good point. And I mean, I'm guessing one of their tactics is like, if they start losing, they just like send in a few gorillas to rip people's arms out of their sockets. That could be. There's so ones up there that are like specifically me too oriented.
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Oh, really sexually harassed at work me to call Whatever law office or whatever my immediate thought was that um
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When you said there are me too or there's me like accused of sexual harassment, call us. It does seem like it's more in the victim's court. Is whoever's casting the lawsuit is the one that they're targeting. That would be a bad business. If your entire model is just like your entire attorney, your law firm is exclusively defending people who are accused of sexual assault.
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That's not ideal. Not good. Amazing. Amazing. I feel like that's the American, well, that's the American dream now is just to like, is to get caught, to be put into a situation where you can sue someone, especially like it's either got to be someone with money or a corporation. Like you either, I don't know, you get your thumb stuck in the like, like the bouncy ball machine at Walmart.
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And so you take them for like 800,000 or whatever, or you fall asleep at your desk and your boss teabags you. Like you get your arm stuck in a vending machine trying to get a soda out for free because you can't afford the $1.25 drink. The passenger airbag doesn't work and your sleeping husband gets his head taken off.
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It's like some sort of like survivable final destination scenario.
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involving like a publicly owned company. That's entrepreneurship now. Well, there was, did I already talk about this episode of King of the Hill on the podcast where Dale wants to, where Dale is wife. So Dale's wife is like the weather person and she feels like she's getting older and replaced by a younger, like they want to look for a younger woman to replace
Environmental Observations
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her. So she wants to get a facelift.
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And Dale's like, we can't afford that. So he like comes up with this whole plan to like try to sue big tobacco because his smoking has made his wife's face look older because he smokes in the house constantly.
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And he's like, they're never gonna, they'll just set a lot of court. Like these companies always sell out of court. So he like goes real hard for it, but they countersue him for like a million dollars. So he has to like do that. He decides to play this long game where he like, he record, they bug his house and he knows about it. So he's like,
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all he does is talk about how to his wife how like hideous she is and how cigarettes have ruined her face and he doesn't love her anymore. And it's so funny. But he doesn't let her in on it. So it ends with her like actually trying to leave him. It's a great episode. And I think it's a cautionary tale about the dangers of trying to sue major corporations hoping they'll settle out of court. So you know what, billboards, you don't see this this
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This year is, uh, like official Trump billboards. Yeah. I actually have not seen many or he doesn't have it. He doesn't have any money. Like he has like two staffers in every major market because they have like no cash.
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And, uh, so like any, cause I've been, I was just thinking about that this week because I've seen a few like, uh, homemade Trump billboards. Oh, I'm not surprised. Kansas has got a lot of like, uh, impromptu billboards where like an old semi trailer is parked out by the like expressway and they paint, they scratched the zero and put a four next to it.
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Yeah, just to save money, right, from four years ago.
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I mean, at least he's clearly sold enough merch where like I see enough. Take America back again or whatever the fuck hats and shirts and shit. I see those a lot. So that's a lot of the Michael Jordan of political merchandise. It's crazy because it's so horrible. His his merch is horrendous looking like I would give credit where credit was due if he like
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if he did a good job with it. But it's horrible. Everything he does looks fucking hideous. Yeah, it's terrible. We saw we were driving back today, we went down to like the hangout on the river and we're coming back through and it's kind of out in the boonies and stuff. And I saw like I saw a number of Trump flags, but there was one house in particular that was like
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I mean, it's a hovel in Southern Kansas and it had a Confederate flag on one side of the driveway and then Trump 2024 like flag on the other side.
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Just saying, what do you want? Do you want the Confederacy or do you want the union? I mean, come on, man. Like you can't have both. It's like a garden arch for troglodytes. Yeah. One of the other billboards I saw that actually really stuck out to me and like it took me a second and I had to think about what I saw because it was a series of four billboards. So I see one and it catches your eye immediately. It's an all white billboard.
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And the font is black, and it's just right in the center. And it says less social media. And I saw that I go, Hmm, I wonder who's paying for that. That's interesting. Less social media sounds great. Like, seems like a good idea.
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And then like another couple hundred feet up, there's this like vibrantly colored, like, it looks like pictures of, I don't know, it's pictures of people having the best time in their life. Um, and it says more Snapchat.
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Oh my god, really? Yeah. And then again, you the next billboard was less social media, the same one and then the same more Snapchat. And I guess they're trying to make it like they're not social media and that like everyone on there is having a great time and they're not ruining their relationships and friendships and
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like you do on regular social media. But I just I thought that was such an interesting take from a from a company like that. It's like seeing one that's like less processed food, more Taco Bell. Yeah, more Tyson chicken baddies. I did pass the Tyson plant and it was interesting because I saw like, I mean, it was the sun was almost blacked out with the amount of seagulls flying over and shitting all over the field.
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It was crazy. It's like the ninth circle of hell for poultry. And all I could think about was how in there, chickens are being mistreated on a large scale as well as employees. I mean, they're employees with missing the nubs of their fingers that have been freshly cut off. They're still packaging your chicken.
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It's nuts. Just like all these chickens that are just like balancing on their stomachs because they're like breast have been so chemically enlarged. Their feet are slowly evolving away.
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It is funny when people get excited about these large chicken breasts. Have you ever seen a chicken in real life? Some of these chicken breasts are the size of an actual real life chicken. I don't want to know what those look like.
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They must look disgusting. It's crazy that we eat that. Fuck, man. I don't know. Tyson is it looked sad. You know, when you drive by like you're just like driving for, you know,
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tens of miles and there's nothing and there's nothing. And then you see like a penitentiary. That's what it looked like. It was like, oh, look, a prison. And you're like, oh no, that's the Tyson chicken factory. It's like barbed wire all around the outside so the employees can't escape. Yeah, there's a lot of that out here too with the, it's mostly beef. There's just a lot of like feedlots where there's just, it's just like acres and acres of like dirt
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and just cows like standing all over the place in it, huge population of them. And you could smell it from like a half mile back. Yeah, they're just shitting and eating, chained in the same like. There's there's one like up probably as the crow flies is probably like three miles from here.
Travel Challenges on I-95
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Okay.
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Like if the wind comes in at just the right angle, you can smell it here and it sucks. It's a, that's a horrible smell. Yeah, that's terrible. Yeah. The other day this, they like spread a pig crap all over some of the, like some of the crop fields, you know, to fertilize them. And that is.
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Um, it's amazing how bad that smells. I don't know if I've, I've been near a pig pen, maybe a couple of times in my life and it didn't smell good, but I can't imagine what that would smell like on a large scale like that. It's a very specific smell. Like you smell it and you know that it's not like, you know, it's pigs when you smell it. It's got like a, there's a violence to it.
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It feels like you're someone's like lit a match inside your nose. I have I got one more driving complaint. It is just on my drive down. So I left on Friday. I'm driving with kids, right? So you don't want to like, I've done the drive straight shot with kids and it's tough.
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You know, it's supposed to be like 10 and a half hours. You can obviously assume there's going to be some traffic because you don't drive that long without someone crashing their car and getting stuck in that. So I was like, we decided to leave Friday and then just like get a hotel in Delaware. The problem with that is.
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When you go that way, I ended up having to be on 95 for most of it. Interstate 95. It pretty much goes the entire East Coast. I'm guessing most people know what it is. But it's notoriously the worst highway to drive on. So when I would drive back and forth from Liberty when we were in college,
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Any time you put directions into a GPS or when I first started driving there, we would MapQuest it. It would always tell you that 95 was the shorter route. It was faster. It was like 100 miles, 120 miles shorter than going 80, 84 to, I think 81 or something. I kind of forget.
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You quickly learn that you just never, ever, ever drive 95. You go the longer route and it takes you an hour less every time. 95 is just a shithole. It's a major truck route. It goes down to two lanes. It goes through all the major cities. There's always construction. It's a nightmare. So going to Delaware, we have to go down 95.
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And apparently New Jersey just doesn't like to communicate with Google properly because it's like we found we can get you there a little bit faster if you do this or that. And you're like, yeah, I'd like to save 20 minutes of my drive. Well, Google was not aware that New Jersey had shut down about 70 miles of
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of 95 and rerouted you. So we were driving probably not 70 miles, but there was a large portion of it through, I forget which city that was just shut down. So Google keeps rerouting and trying to put you on the same fucking highway that's shut down.
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And you're just driving in circles on on-ramps and off-ramps until Google finally picks up on, you're not trying to go that way. Just getting more and more furious. Yeah. It's so aggravating. And it goes, we'll save you 20 minutes. And they're just like, gotcha. We just added 40 minutes to your trip. So it took us an extra hour to get.
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to where we needed to get and it was really annoying. Never drive 95. It's the worst. It's always tricks and it's like a thousand dollars in tolls. I think I spent almost a hundred dollars in tolls just coming to North Carolina from Massachusetts going 95. How much? Almost a hundred bucks, I think.
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Oh my God, that's insane. Yeah, it's crazy. Because it's like every, I mean, every city, it's like they'll just, you get to a new section. It's like you go through another toll booth and it's another $10 to go here or there. And then, well, here's a bridge. So we're going to charge you that. I think the George Washington bridge is like 32 bucks to cross. It's ridiculous.
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You can have that. So that sucks. It pissed
Media Coverage of Middle-East Conflicts
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me off. I could have saved 100 bucks if I just went the longer way and found it like a rinky dink hotel in the middle of fucking nowhere. But we did it because we have a Marriott card and Marriott isn't everywhere. It was only along the worst path imaginable. Oh, man. So well, we were
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at dinner last night with some friends and the long awaited attack on Israel by Iran started. Did you follow any of that? I just saw a few like of the Instagram pages that we follow. I just saw their posts about in some video feed, the ones that we talked about when we had Charles on and the ones that like real, real news, no bullshit. And
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The what's the other one that? Oh, just like Bellingcat. And yeah, there's a few. But Northern Provision. Yeah, Northern Provision. So they're all posting about it. And it's like and then I saw someone post this really cool take. It was just like a Twitter capture of someone saying something really stupid. And it just was like just the typical like simpy bullshit of
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Iran needs to know that. They're trying to act like Iran's the aggressor here. And they're like, Iran needs to know that Israel has the right to defend themselves and that the US needs to let them know that we will back them and we will attack hard and fast if they try to do anything and blah, blah, blah. It's just all that dumb shit that you'd expect to see from some conservative boomers.
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It it's like what? I mean, it started because Israel bombed an Iranian embassy in Syria. And what? I mean, what? I don't know. It's where people get off thinking. Well, nobody's talking about the embassy. That's that's the crazy thing is like there's been so since October 7th, before that, all of that. Israel plays like real fast and loose with it. I mean, there's basically no they bomb whoever they want, wherever they want.
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You know, if there's a target somewhere, they'll, they'll take out a building. It doesn't matter whose country it is. They've bombed the iron curtain. Is that what it's called? Iron curtain? No, the iron dome, whatever it is. The iron dome. Yeah. It's like their defensive. That's like a defensive air defense system. But like we can bomb whatever we want because we're just not overly worried about missiles coming back our way.
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Like imagine if they didn't have that. Imagine if they didn't have, I mean, and then they have the, obviously the US support and the backing of the West almost entirely, but. Which is the iron dome. Like that's, that's all our support. You know, it's crazy. That's really wild. So they've bombed a lot of targets in, uh, in Lebanon and Syria since the start of the war, uh, pretty much with impunity, like Hezbollah is like the, you know,
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Hamas's big brother, I guess. I mean, there's, there's so, it's hard to really quantify these in any terms, but like Hamas.
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is a relatively small group that's quadranted in Gaza. Hezbollah is a much larger group. They have over 100,000 fighters and they have all sorts of really sophisticated military tech and stuff. A lot of it from Iran. Iran's equipped them. They're considered an Iranian proxy, which that can mean whatever you want it to mean.
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What is proxy? We're all in proxy wars. All of us, everyone, every fucking country. 100 percent. Yeah. So they've you know, Israel is like seems to really want to fight with Hezbollah like they they've continually like bombed them and Hezbollah is, you know, attacking back and stuff. They're trading a lot of fire and everything. But about a week ago, a little over a week ago,
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They took it to like a whole nother level, like absolutely unheard of insane thing to do. They bombed the consulate building, the Iranian consulate building in Damascus, Syria. So there's like the embassy and this building is next to it. And it's like the Iranian consulate. It's basically like our embassies are considered like the U.S. embassy in another country is U.S. soil.
00:27:44
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Yes, like an attack on the embassy is an attack on the United States might as well have landed troops on the ground here bombed our, you know, New York City or something. And Israel just flattened this consulate building. And supposedly let the Biden administration know before and or at least they're claiming that Israel didn't let them know that they were going to do this, but they killed like seven people that were like,
00:28:14
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They were top, top officials in the, uh, the Iranian revolutionary guard, which is kind of like a separate wing of their military that does a lot of this. Like, you know, they, they're, they're kind of in charge, all these proxy forces and stuff like that. So of course, Israel's like, this is a defensive move. You know, we're targeting these people coordinating attacks against us and stuff like that. But yeah, literally like flew into another country and leveled a diplomatic building, which is completely unheard.
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And almost nobody's talking about it at all. Like there's been very little news coverage of it. And ever since, because the Iranians, you know, they threatened that they were going to retaliate and stuff, which they kind of have to.
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Can you imagine any other like I just can't imagine if Israel had an embassy somewhere and it got attacked that they wouldn't be like I mean they would love at this point Israel would almost love a reason to like that I feel like that's just what they're looking for at this point you know
00:29:17
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Yeah, I think they would love it. They want any attack. I mean, obviously, October 7th was a different deal that was exceptionally heinous. But like, I don't know, they just seem like they're not that they need the excuse. They've shown everyone they don't need the excuse. But it would it seems like in their view would make their lives easier if they had it.
00:29:41
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Yeah, they've been they've been lobbying for war with Iran for like 25 years at this. Yeah. I mean, since we were little kids, you know, there was always Iran was the next target that we had to take care of, you know. And I don't know. The crazy thing is that all of this, you know, this war started on with this current iteration of the conflict started with October 7th. And they really nobody has produced any evidence that
00:30:08
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the Iranians were involved in October 7th. Cause that was really what they were looking to show is that they helped coordinate it and plan it and equip the fighters and all of that kind of stuff. And they really like have not been able to put the puzzle pieces together on that. And this is like one area where you see like the US and other countries like kind of playing into the, like playing along with the game that like, oh yeah, you know, there's no proof that Iran was a part of it.
00:30:35
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Nobody but Israel seems to really want direct conflict with Iran other than, you know, Lindsey Graham and a bunch of jerk offs in our, in our Senate and stuff. It's almost like we, this almost sounds familiar. Uh, WMD is somewhere at some point after 9 11. It just real familiar shit. Yeah, very much so.
00:31:00
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So the Iranians like threatened this attack and it went on for like 10 days. Everybody was waiting for it. And then there was a big alert like Friday saying that like, Hey, it's imminent within the next 24 hours, 48 hours. Like we're going to see this attack. The attack itself, it was like a bunch of drones and missiles and things like that. But they were from a, they were from a long ways away. It was like a very telegraphed attack. There hasn't been a lot of.
00:31:29
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No, but they haven't really shown a lot about like anything that was really damaged. I think the vast majority of them got shot down. Apparently there's an Israeli Air Force base that took some damage, but no reports of casualties or of anyone killed. There's some people injured. But by all accounts, the way that it looks is that they wanted to respond, but they didn't want to up the tension too much. So they kind of did it in a way.
00:32:00
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knowing that it would be counteracted for the most part. I mean, at least is what it looks like from the outside. But I don't know, man. It's just ever since it's just been nonstop calls for like Israel has to respond to this. Israel has got to like show like Israel needs to do a show of force. They need to hit back 10 times harder to establish deterrence again, let them know that they can't mess with Israel, that they will defend themselves and stuff. And it's like,
00:32:29
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Yet this was in retaliation for what they did. There's no mention of it. Nobody's talking about it at all.
00:32:44
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media, mainstream media outlet is just doing the like running cover for them. And it's so funny, like, I don't know, I think it's so weird now. For so many of us, like politically speaking, to just, you know, for the longest time, it felt like, you know, we had for your major news networks, you had your CNN and your Fox News or whatever, but like for the most there's like,
00:33:13
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Really, Fox News is the only like conservative mainstream outlet. And then you had the rest that were left leaning. I shouldn't say they're just liberal. They're more liberal leaning to varying degrees. But it's like
00:33:30
Speaker
It's so funny to see all these standard Israel people still just act like your CNNs are just so far off base and that they're like, it's like this horrible network that just has no investment into the truth or whatever. And you're like, yeah, I feel like I'm
00:33:50
Speaker
We're starting to agree on something for totally different reasons, but it's funny because when it comes to this and honestly other issues too that we've talked about, but it's like the mainstream networks are really just
Ukraine-Russia Conflict and Media Narratives
00:34:07
Speaker
they're they they're it's like the horseshoe theory right they're all starting to meet they're just coming way too close together at this point i mean your conservative outliers the more extreme like propagandist types of like Newsmax or whatever obviously
00:34:24
Speaker
They're doing their own thing, making up their own stuff. That's an insane channel that has no interest in reporting the news of the truth. I think Fox News, when it comes to their commentary, what's it called? What's the word I'm looking for?
00:34:44
Speaker
like editorial type content. Right. They can say whatever they want and like they can just hide behind the idea of editorialism. But when it comes to just like straight news and here's what's happening, like they'll have a take on it that I'll obviously disagree with. But it's not so dissimilar at this point than what you from what you'd get on on CNN. The dividing line is Trump and Biden, really. That's all anyone fucking cares about, it feels like. Right. It's it's like the
00:35:14
Speaker
The areas that they're left to disagree about are abortion and immigration and things like that. That's a much better way to put it. It's like the areas that are left to disagree about, there's like three and everything else is kind of just like massing in the middle. Right. There's way too much consensus on war as a whole. You've seen conservatives kind of push back against
00:35:37
Speaker
Ukraine. And yeah, I don't know. It's it's it's still though. It's like some conservatives. It's like outlier conservatives that push back on Ukraine. The mainstream conservatives, Republican style people are still pretty on board with like arming and equipping them and stuff. But there's enough of them in Congress and stuff that are drawing, you know, that are putting a halt to it. But it's really weird to me
00:36:05
Speaker
how many left-wing people are just all in for some of these conflicts and stuff. Like Ukraine, I get it. Especially in the beginning, I get that they were invaded by Russia, they're fighting back, they're trying to keep their countries, stuff like that. But the attitude towards it just doesn't make sense to me anymore. The continuing to push this idea that
00:36:35
Speaker
Like there's no reality at this point in which Ukraine pushes Russia out and takes back Crimea, but we still keep talking about it as if that's a possibility. And you know, like, yeah, they're, they're running short on weapons and we can pass funding and probably get them some weapons and stuff like that. But like they're out of people, like they're having to revamp all of their like conscription guidelines and stuff because they don't have the personnel.
00:37:03
Speaker
to wage this war. And I mean, it's dark as fuck when you, I mean, when you just think about the lives lost and the way they want to push forward, it's just literally sacrificing people to the war machine at this point. Yeah. And I feel like people are, are like the, the reality of it, like everybody wanted to think in the beginning that like the Ukrainians were going to push Russia out and reestablish their borders and that was going to be it. Right.
00:37:32
Speaker
We got sold a lot of ideas about how Russia is on the brink of collapse and Putin could be dead tomorrow and the Russian forces are so incompetent and they're losing everything and stuff. Some of that was probably true to an extent or whatever, but at this point, it's like the longer you push off negotiation.
00:37:52
Speaker
This was always going to end at a negotiating table with both sides and a mediator, which should have been the United States. That should have been the role that we were naturally the ones to play, you know, as the major world power and stuff. We should have been with two sides at a negotiating table, drawing lines on the map, you know, and not everybody's going to get what they want, but that's how it's going to end. And at this point, like to continually just like throw people into this meat grinder,
00:38:21
Speaker
like it just doesn't make any sense and now it's to the point where like there's just like these desperate like drone attacks and stuff that they're launching inside of Russian borders you know and hitting just kind of whatever like they hit some apartment buildings they hit like uh some oil refineries and things like that but like there's not really doing much damage it's more or less just like
00:38:45
Speaker
Poking the bear and now like Russia is just taking out power plants left and right like there's not going to be anything left If they don't come to the negotiating table now and try to work something out But I don't know. I just don't like the left-wing like the Nobody likes this the idea of some sort of a truce, but that's
00:39:07
Speaker
Realistic that's what's going to happen unless like we just sit here and wait for the Ukrainian state to fall apart and like Israel is like a whole different deal because like you have like the left is really split on Israel and Like I was I was telling you about this article that I was reading on the way home here, but it's in the telegraph. I Don't know. What is the telegraph steel? Are they? Typically, they're a UK paper, right? I mean there are they typically conservative or
00:39:37
Speaker
Liberal, I don't really know. I don't know how they lean. So this lady, Zoe Strippell, who...
00:39:45
Speaker
I looked at her background a little bit just to try to figure out who she is. She writes an opinion piece every Sunday forum, apparently. And like, her works all pretty much centered around like relationship stuff, and men and women interacting, dating, things like that. She wrote this article, the West must remember how to fight, it may already be too late. And like this lady who she majored in gender studies and like everything about her work would
00:40:15
Speaker
would put her in the camp of like a liberal left leaning person from the outside, right? But like this article- It looks like the daily, I mean the telegraph, the daily telegraph, I guess is the full name. I guess it looks like it leans right. I just, from a cursory Google search. Okay. Gotcha. I don't know. Everything's different over there too. Like I don't understand their party system. You got the Tories and the Glennies and the, the,
00:40:44
Speaker
the ditch muffins and the laborist party and whatnot. And occasionally they all fight until someone's toupee falls off. Until all the powders have been shaken out of their wigs.
00:41:00
Speaker
Dude, which party has the worst haircuts? That's what I want to know because, dude, you guys got to get it under control. Whichever party has the worst haircuts is definitely making fun of the party with the worst teeth at this point. That's all they have left to fight about. Just fucking filibusters over wings and teeth.
00:41:25
Speaker
Whoever could say Brexit without spitting the most. So she wrote this article basically talking about how the West, how we're all basically just like we're with our liberal like
00:41:49
Speaker
you know, humanist ideas, we've forgotten how to be a tough war like people, and it's costing everyone in the world because of that. And like, the the language here is wild. Like, it's shocking some of the stuff that she she says in here. Let me see here. I wanted to find an example. Okay, so
00:42:16
Speaker
How do we get to this perilous pass? The answer is that we have spent the past decades focusing on made up threats and burying our heads in the sand.
00:42:25
Speaker
We have elected leaders and created political policy and educational elites who have willfully pretended that the real threats, Islamists, global jihadi movements, their regime funders in Iran, and the unvetted influx to Europe of migrants from countries steeped in their evil ethos, are just the fever dreams of a racist and backward fringe.
00:42:50
Speaker
Whoo, boy. She's calling other people racist after that onslaught of saying that, like, we've let ourselves believe that, like, fearing those things is just a fever dreams of a racist and backward fringe base. I think that if someone says Islamist, you can immediately discredit everything that follows.
00:43:12
Speaker
Yeah, I, I just think that term is, uh, it's only, I don't know if it's had a neutral, if it's been a neutral word in the past, but it's only employed by people who have bad takes that fall. I think Islamist is a term that refers to like,
00:43:30
Speaker
people who, it's like Christian nationalist. It's like the Islamic form of that. I think is what it's supposed to be. Sure. It's just not usually that when people say it. It's just like, I guess you could similarly say the left likes to accuse all Christians of being Christian nationalists to a degree. We see that a lot. I mean, I think a lot of them are, and I think there's obviously huge problems with Christian nationalism.
00:43:59
Speaker
I think people get pulled into that category more frequently than is deserved. And it feels equally on the right. They love the word Islamist when talking about just... You could just be a Muslim who lives in a state that has a disagreement with another... I don't know. It's just overly... I feel like... I've just never heard someone use it and then...
00:44:24
Speaker
with the statement that follows been like that sounds like a rational take. It's always followed by like something xenophobic. Yeah, that is fair.
00:44:33
Speaker
And, you know, it may be like my pre presuppositions about who this lady is aside from this piece are incorrect. You know, like I mean, maybe I'm off base here, but like it's crazy to me some of the language gender that's being published. Yeah, like she studied how there's only two genders. That was her. Maybe it was it was a two year program.
00:45:04
Speaker
So it goes on here. It says, in doing so we have picked apart the rationale of a robust defense, which sometimes involves the need to attack and to die in doing so. The best defense is a good offense. I learned that in basketball.
00:45:20
Speaker
Very true. When I never wanted to discredit that notion. By discrediting Western interventionism and military might, we have not made the world a nicer, cozier, more just place. We've merely given a green light to monsters happy to die if it means killing more of us.
00:45:38
Speaker
And so as Israel enters yet another month of bombardment from terror groups on all sides, with a dwindling number of hostages still alive in Gaza, because they keep killing them, anti-Semitic displays getting bolder every day in Britain and the US, I find that my patience is at an all time low for the faux astonishment and passive consternation at the prospect of Iran, a rogue state on the brink of being a nuclear power directly attacking Israel.
00:46:08
Speaker
Israel, after all, is one of the few countries left in the civilized world. A member of that tiny number that includes Ukraine. That's crazy. That's a wild statement. Just referring, what, there's like four, five, six countries that she considers part of the civilized world. That's a wild, I mean.
00:46:29
Speaker
That's a wild take. It's unbelievable. Dude, this is, it's full of this. And it's really, it's like, the whole rationale here is just like, you know, Westerners should be willing to like suit up and go,
00:46:46
Speaker
Like just just be human bullet stops for Israel, you know, the last defense of civilization in in the Middle East, you know, the only democracy in the region. Right. It's because all their elections have gone so democratically. Yeah. And it's it all ties into, you know, like, well, this is just emboldened like our our, you know, our route
00:47:14
Speaker
reservations about acting are only emboldening Putin and Xi Jinping and this and that and the other. And I it's just, I don't know. And then, like, the article is one thing. And then I start scrolling through like the comments. And the comments are, they're all in support of it. And like, I don't know, you know, I do worry, I do wonder, like, how much, like, bots are
00:47:42
Speaker
interfering with these comment sections and stuff. But like, I don't know, dude, I spend a lot of time taking in content about like the war and
00:47:52
Speaker
In Israel and Ukraine and stuff like that. And like, I'm just shocked by how many people are like fully on board with this stuff. Dude, this is just full of people that are like, well, they attacked Israel directly. Like it's time to target all their nuclear bases and this and that.
00:48:12
Speaker
I think that's what's been astonishing to see is like people view any attack as like a reason to just go like full show of force. It's like oh you got attacked it's now it's like
00:48:29
Speaker
If you get attacked, that's all you needed to be able to turn everything into a glass parking lot. It's almost like they're waiting for that. It's like, oh, I hope they attack us a little bit so that way we have an excuse to go in and bulldoze their entire city.
00:48:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's like this attack was nothing and it's just being like propped up as justification for like a full on war with Iran at this point. I don't know. Dude, I'm just worried a lot about it. I don't know. It's scary. I think that Biden has made some big mistakes in like allowing Israel to kind of dictate the terms of the US's support. And he's in a position now where it's going to be really hard to pull back
00:49:17
Speaker
on that. And he's kind of already lost the political capital that was there for him in terms of his reaction to Gaza and stuff. There's already been a lot of fallout from that. I don't know. I'm just not sure what's going to happen.
00:49:31
Speaker
I think everyone's a bit shook too, because I mean, this came up a bit, so I'll just be brief about it. But it's really like, you know, you mentioned needing to go like Ukraine and Russia, like, there was no way it wasn't going to end at the negotiating table. And that's true. But that's a hard thing to stomach, because if you if you admit that that's true from the start, and that there is no point in putting up a fight, it just means that the most powerful nations can do whatever they want to force people to the negotiating table constantly.
00:50:00
Speaker
if everyone else is just going to go, look, they want to take this and you, and you're smaller. So now we have to go to the negotiating table. So then you concede. And then six years later, they go, we want more. And it's like, look, this is just going to end with you getting leveled. So let's go to the negotiating table. Like, so what, like that's a scary idea. And it's kind of sets a precedent. That's really is feels fairly new.
00:50:27
Speaker
Not that this hasn't happened in history's past, but it's at least in our lifetime, our parents' lifetime even. This type of hostility and then just negotiating over who gets what land is
00:50:44
Speaker
is pretty crazy. So even if you apply that same thing to Israel and Gaza or Palestine, it's just like, fuck, where does this shit end? All we're doing is seeing that the most powerful people, which is what? I mean, we've seen this in
00:51:03
Speaker
On a smaller scale, it's what corporate America has done to fucking destroy the middle class and keep people poor and funnel all the money towards the top. That is the world we live in. The rich and the powerful just take. Even though we were joking earlier about
00:51:24
Speaker
people wanting to sue big corporations because they'll sell out of court. There's entire corporations who continue to get richer in Monsanto and shit like that. They're like, oh, let me sprinkle a little bit of our patent seeds in your farm and then call it ours. All you see everywhere is the rich people go, we're going to do this and then you just have to concede and that gets fucking aggravating. So at least with Ukraine and Russia, it makes sense to me that
00:51:54
Speaker
It makes sense to me why there's a large swath of people who would rather fucking die than just eat shit again or eat shit over and over and over again and just look down the road and see their future is just constantly up for debate at the negotiating table. But like on the other side of things like we but we recognize we recognize Russia as the aggressor there and as the problematic state. And then you go. But then we take we totally switch the narrative when it comes to
00:52:24
Speaker
Israel-Palestine and we just run cover for Israel constantly. And it's like we should be treating this differently because this is a situation in which the US actually has the ability to tell a powerful nation that they have to stop.
00:52:40
Speaker
or they're fucked because they require they need our backing and you just so you get to see again why it just everything just feels fucking pretend it's like we're it's like we get to live in the matrix and and we're placated by the idea that like like we feel safe here right it's like well the US is over there interfering and trying to like manage it a little bit but like
00:53:04
Speaker
only insofar as they want to and it's advantageous to them. I don't know. It just feels like everywhere, everything feels so unstable. And depending on which side the power is on, it's an imbalance. And there's a thirst that'll never fucking be quenched.
00:53:29
Speaker
Here we are. We just we just sit here and we expect. Oh, I don't know what's going to happen. Yeah, we don't. And it's not good. It can't be good when you have that much power with a fucking bulldozer that can take down a city for real. Yeah. And it's like it's in a case. It's a case for why like, you know, I think American might could be a good thing if it was used to intervene in these conflicts. Like if we hadn't just completely
00:53:57
Speaker
carte blanche thrown our weight behind Israel at the beginning of this whole thing, as if no one could have predicted that this would be the outcome. Like if you on October 8th were like, well, they have to destroy Hamas. That's a thing that can be done and they need to do it.
00:54:17
Speaker
Like then you're out of your mind like where have you been the last twenty five years as we've like watch. Insurgency after insurgency just like bring a giant power to its knees you know who pays the price and all of that are the normal people that live on the ground in those communities that's the thing that.
00:54:38
Speaker
I don't know, like if we used our strength to be a mediator in these conflicts to put a stop to it and say, hey, whoa, all right, we're going to, you know, you and you, you got to sit down with negotiators here and we got to figure out a different resolution because we're not going to just let you, you know, you, why do you have armored bulldozers?
00:55:03
Speaker
Why
Steven Crowder's Toxic Environment
00:55:04
Speaker
is that a thing that you already have equipped and ready to go on day two? I don't know, man. The whole thing's just crazy to me. It feels like you look around at where people are at on it and you're just like, I don't understand where they're coming from at all.
00:55:26
Speaker
And like the whole part of this that we just totally like haven't even talked about because it, there's nothing to talk about. It's so stupid. Like is Trump who may be the president again, like his takes on it are the dumbest of all. Like he literally just keeps doing interview after interview where they ask him about Israel Gaza and he goes.
00:55:47
Speaker
Well, they never would have been attacked. They never would have been attacked if I was the president because, you know, something about Iran nuclear deal, but he makes no sense. It's just garbage. And like, he just says it over and over again. And it's, I mean,
00:56:03
Speaker
What follow up question do you ask to that? Like it doesn't need to. I think I mean, there's something there. He's the one person who's literally never had to have anything make sense to get a whole like team rallied behind him of support. It's like that's I think he's like one of the greatest case studies in like this idea of like you hear what you want to write. It's not about what you say. It's about what people want to hear. And
00:56:33
Speaker
That's all people need, which shows you why, I mean, I think democracy is good, but it shows you why it's also going to kill us all.
00:56:43
Speaker
Yeah, maybe it's good. It's like what else? I mean, I guess it's worth it. I can't I don't want my I don't want everything being decided. It already is. So that doesn't matter. But I don't love the idea of everything being decided by just a small group of powerful people. I say it is I don't believe in this cabal conspiracy theory bullshit. We all know that. But like,
00:57:09
Speaker
Again, you just look to your left and you look to your right and you go, those people are all voting. Great. And they feel the same about us. If you're on the right, you think I'm a giant fucking loser with terrible ideas and I shouldn't be allowed to vote for whatever reason because it doesn't pass your
00:57:33
Speaker
I don't know, I'm not patriotic enough. Maybe they think you need to pass a Patriot checklist in order to be able to vote. Oh yeah, that's a cool idea that people vote. Whatever. We would not pass it. The vast majority of the time. Speaking of losers with dumb ideas, should we check in with our buddy? Yeah, let's check in with him. We were going to check in with a couple others, but I think we should save the other
00:58:03
Speaker
for maybe another time. Our crypto, our Christian crypto friend we were going to check in on. But given time and I'm on vacation. Well, let's check in with our boy Steven Crowder, and then we can call it a pod. So Steven had this guy, and I don't know a ton about this. I just I watched
00:58:25
Speaker
There's a, there's a YouTuber called too lazy to try that he does a lot of videos around like, uh, podcasters and, you know, uh, influencers and things like that. It's kind of like a guilty pleasure sort of watch, but, uh, he's great. I really like him. He's super monotone and he, he always uses his, he doesn't show his face. So he just uses thumbnails of George Costanza, like covered in broken chips. It's.
00:58:52
Speaker
He's great. I love the tune. He did a video about Steven Crowder and his ex co-host, which is this guy named Jared Monroe. He's got a few exes in his life now. Yeah, working on it. This guy, Jared and him, I think they were friends like before the show really turned into anything. You know, they were kind of like college buddies or something like that.
00:59:19
Speaker
They have a very weird relationship over the years and and that you know too lazy to try does a good job of like Mapping it out like some of the things that they did together On the show. He was known as not gay Jared Okay, and that mean definitely gay Jared Well, there's there's real weird vibes between the two of them and they used to do a lot of like prank videos quote-unquote
00:59:48
Speaker
where they would like go to a, I don't know, it looked like they would like go to a pride rally and like make out or something. It's like a good joke. They would do stuff like that where they would go somewhere in public and they would like cross dress or. That's like that college bi-curious shit. Be like, dude, I'm super not gay. Are you super not gay? You know what would be hilarious? Is if we like pretended to be gay and made out. When Crowder apparently like
01:00:17
Speaker
And he's talked about how like he identified as bisexual for a while. Before he got saved. I don't know what the timeline is, but there's a lot of video of him and not gay Jared kissing.
01:00:33
Speaker
I know that. Ironically, of course. Yeah, nothing but irony there. It's the whole thing is very just it's weird. We were talking earlier. I mean, apparently Crowder started out as like a comedian of some sort. Yeah, you do like quote unquote. This is what's funny. He would do quote unquote, like satire. And I feel like I feel like
01:00:58
Speaker
satire can be one of the hackiest forms of comedy where like at its poorest it's just from that angle let's go it would be just a right leaning person just saying typical liberal talking points with like a dumb voice and calling it satire
01:01:18
Speaker
Alex Jones' whole shtick. He does that. He loves doing those tangents where he's like, ooh, I'm a liberal. I don't care if the government comes and takes your guns. He does that a lot. It is. A lot of that just sucks. It's not funny at all. It's one step above your identity being the sarcastic person.
01:01:45
Speaker
Exactly. Anyone who has that friend that's like, I'm real sarcastic. It's like, we tolerate you. We don't, you know, we don't want you in our friend circle. You just, you get to be here for some privileged reason. Probably because you're related to somebody. There's certain things that you just like don't say about yourself.
01:02:08
Speaker
And one of the things is that, like, I'm real sarcastic. Or my least favorite one is when an old person is like, I'm blunt, I tell it like it is. Yeah, so you're unbearable. Yeah, self-describe, tell it like it is, people are awful. Also with sarcastic people, anyone who's ever self-described themselves as sarcastic, their go-to is just saying the opposite of what's happening.
01:02:35
Speaker
That's, they don't, they're not, it's not real sarcasm. They don't seem to understand what real sarcasm is, which isn't always funny. It can be amongst friends. It doesn't make great bets if for public consumption, but whatever, you can be sarcastic with friends, but self-proclaimed sarcastists, if you will. Like being, or being sarcastic is not a personality.
01:02:59
Speaker
Yeah, it would be like, hey, can you get me a fork? And it's like, that's a spoon. It's a fork. He's just saying what something is in sarcasm. So that is what is frustrating. I think a lot of those people used to wear the shirts with the little block letters on there that would be like, today's not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
01:03:25
Speaker
Yeah. I see dumb people. Yeah. That was a classic. That was a classic. I forgot about that one. Yeah, it's not a good personality type. So Crowder and his buddy, I don't know what their relationship was like, but it just, you know, you can make, when somebody's worked with someone for a long time and it's all public and there's video and stuff, but you can kind of draw a narrative out of things, but
01:03:54
Speaker
They did kiss a lot. It's just not something that you would find with most other people. And it would be fine if it wasn't horrible, awful Steven Crowder, you know? Yeah. But like, who's made a career out of just denigrating
01:04:15
Speaker
the LGBTQ community. It's like for you to be kissing that much ironically is like, look, I would love for you to be by and live your best life and do what you want if you weren't a scumbag piece of shit. Now, I don't want that for you. You don't deserve that. Yeah, you can't be Kevin Spacey in your way out of this one.
01:04:41
Speaker
So throughout this whole thing with Steven's divorce, uh, it's just come out that he's, he's just, he's exactly what you would expect. He's just the worst. Like he's a miserable, awful person that is just a nightmare to be around. Like he's a terrible boss. He like, like demands, like he basically just.
01:05:03
Speaker
Like runs a sweat shop at his like media company. Nobody's ever good enough. He like threatens people all the time. And then on top of that, he like mixes in like jokes that are really more like humiliation rituals where he seems to single somebody out and like try to embarrass them.
01:05:22
Speaker
sometimes by taking a penis out or something like that. Like he just is a terrible guy and this not gay, authoritarian vibes, like the way he runs his network. I demand complete loyalty. Right. Well, and like kind of ruin you if you do anything to slight me. He wants you to be scared all the time. Like always like unsure if you're going to have a job at the end of the day.
01:05:50
Speaker
So yeah, Jared, I'm going to stop calling him not gay Jared. Jared Monroe worked with him for a long time. They were kind of like friends and partners and stuff like that. And at some point, like the atmosphere and the verbal abuse and stuff like that, it just got to a point where like he wasn't having a name.
01:06:10
Speaker
And so he decided to leave. And ever since then, he's been locked in just like these never ending legal disputes with Crowder. Like he sued him over a million different things. He's demanded like, I mean, everything from like he wanted him to turn over all of his social media accounts to louder with Crowder, like his personal social media accounts.
01:06:34
Speaker
Um, I guess because he thought like his whole brand was built on the back of his show or something like, you're not an individual. You are a number to me. You are. I own you. Exactly. Same way he felt about his wife. He wanted, he wanted him to turn over like his, um, like personal, like video and photography equipment that he owned.
01:07:00
Speaker
You know, that wasn't purchased through the show. I mean, this is stuff that he had for, you know, before they started doing the show or something. Now I'll say this. Okay. Jared sucks too. Yeah. Jared sucks. You can go look at Jared's social media. He's not cool either. And I imagine I have a sneaking suspicion that Crowder's wife is probably not the coolest.
01:07:24
Speaker
as well. But, uh, Steven takes cake. He's the worst dude ever. And, and he's like really big on NDAs and non-competes and stuff. So he basically tries to like take everything from this guy. So like, I love when those free speech guys are like, uh, but you have to fill out this and you have to sign this NDA.
01:07:47
Speaker
Yeah, every single one of them has done that too. Yeah, like every single one of them has proven to be just a psycho that doesn't want to play by the rules that they want everybody else. Like, that's more like, let's have free speech and all that, right? But like, these are not the guardians of them, of those things. But
01:08:10
Speaker
Yeah. So he, he tried to kind of like with non-competes lock him out of like the audio visual production, you know, any sort of entertainment industry stuff. He's just kind of ruined this guy's life ever since he left, according to the guy. Right. And, um, it appears that he's doing the same sort of thing to his ex-wife, like, uh,
01:08:36
Speaker
You know, I don't know all the details of their divorce soap opera, but the, he demanded full custody of their twins. And then, you know, the video dropped a couple months ago, showing him just like berating her when she's eight months pregnant.
01:08:54
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Yeah, that's the last time we talked about it was after that video won't let her use the car. For some reason, they only have one car. I'm sure that's not because he's a total control freak and doesn't want her driving places on his, on her own. Just the whole thing. He needs permission to go grocery shopping to get him his red meat. Exactly. So yeah, now, now it's just like.
01:09:17
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This Jared Monroe came out, uh, like a month ago or something and published a video where he, for the first time spoke about what life has been like since he left. Louder with Crowder and just, just the ongoing hell that it's been dealing with, you know, all this litigation and stuff. Steven didn't respond to himself. He had one of his co-hosts respond to it.
01:09:48
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So he's not in the video. He doesn't talk in it. He's just got like this guy on this, on his show, like going through a list of all of his grievances with this Jared Monroe dude.
01:09:59
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Just the whole thing is insane. What's great is because these people operate within the confines of needing everything that's inconvenient to be a conspiracy. It's funny because they hate when people
01:10:20
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when any victim comes forward about anything, but they love playing the victim card. As soon as anything's inconvenient, they're like, I'm the victim. So now it's like he's got this major accusation that Jared and his ex-wife are in cahoots to bring him down together. And that was the plan
01:10:39
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All along that they've been in on this for a while and that they got together to try to orchestrate his demise because you can't just be a piece of shit asshole and be held accountable. It has to be because they it's like it's like that. It has to be a conspiracy. It has to be like.
01:11:00
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And there's no part of him that has the self-awareness to recognize that he is the asshole, obviously. And that's what's cool about being that much of a piece of shit is you just lack the ability to take any perspective at all. And you're like, it's weird that every...
01:11:17
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There's 12 people in my life that all hate me and wish I was dead and because I've treated them so poorly. So when they all just share their stories together and try to hold me accountable, it's a conspiracy. It's like, no, having having three to 12 people, whatever, having two, three, four or five people all unanimously agree that your loser isn't a conspiracy. It's a fact. It would only be conspiracy if it wasn't true.
01:11:46
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And we're all watching from the outside, man, and you fucking suck. That's what you call checks and balances. It's crazy. What do you say? Okay, go ahead. If you're going to continue the story. Talk about the article that we were reading in the current
01:12:07
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The bombshell threatening message. Yeah, so there's this threatening so he's now like After everything he's gone through after everything he's done for these people and they've betrayed him One of the things that he had said
01:12:23
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in the ring camera video when he was talking to his wife he said watch it fucking watch it when he was talking to his wife so apparently Crowder though now he's really worried because he received a very very threatening message
01:12:42
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So from this article, it's a bullshit website that's quoting actual websites that did real work. But I was too lazy to just hit the link to the actual source. But it's this one's from the Daily Dot, but whatever. It says the threatening message was scribbled onto the side of a sweet potato and left for David Crowder.
01:13:06
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And the scribbled message on the sweet potato was the words that he had once said, watch it, fucking watch it. In addition to directions on how to heat it up in the microwave.
01:13:26
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This is the image of the vegetable captivated social media with users with many users hitting it. Crowder for feeling threatened by receiving a sweet potato with his own words on it. It is. It's just he's just a baby like to receive that we get it like he everyone knows he knows what he said. It's on video. I don't know how he can watch that video and not realize that he's like
01:13:54
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a giant like he watches that video and gets hard over how alpha he is that he loves the best comment was like somebody being like it's like so by acknowledging that this that
01:14:12
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watch it, watch it as a threat. Like you're also acknowledging that when you said it to your wife, it was a threat as well, right? Yeah. If Steve, one of the comments was if Steven Crowder is submitting a yam with his own words written on it as proof that he's being threatened. Doesn't that mean that he acknowledges that those words were a threat when he said them to his wife?
01:14:35
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But I just I think the addition of how to cook it in the microwave is hilarious because we know that this guy has never cooked himself a meal like it's the wifely duties that his wife was Probably that what he accused his wife of not doing perhaps had to do with with cooking You never know waving sweet potatoes for him. He was getting tired of eating pizza lunchables, you know He is funny cuz like
01:15:05
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It does seem like his day in the sun is over. Like he was kind of the right wing darling for a little while. Like Shapiro with a point. Exactly. Yeah. Like like a self-proclaimed sarcastic person for sure. Oh, definitely. Yeah. I think. Yeah. I think that's what his moniker was is kind of like he was the funny Shapiro. Yeah. Oh, which sucks so bad. I hate it. Which I mean.
01:15:35
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The only thing left was funny after Shapiro turned out to be a great rapper. Dude, Candace Owens, she's had pretty poignant takes on both of those douchebags now. Yeah, she's got it after him. I wish she didn't have awful takes on everything else. It would be easier to stomach her one good take. It's true. Stopped clocks at all, you know. Yeah, exactly.
01:16:03
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But Outlook, I'll acknowledge the W where there's a W. It is wild to watch like a media personality or an influencer or somebody like that just totally fall apart. I know. Completely lose the thing. Like, again, like guilty pleasure, but watching like YouTube drama videos and stuff like, I don't know, the one that pops up all the time is Ethan Klein from the
01:16:32
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H3 podcast. Okay. He just he like clawed his way into a, you know, prominence being like, just a crass rude, you know, a guy that had outlandish like kind of cringe.
01:16:51
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make you wince takes on things and like, you know, feeding into drama and stuff like that. And then I guess at some point decided he wanted to pivot and be like a left wing liberal resistance commentator. Did he call it crass roots? That would have been good. But just, I don't know, watching people like lose their fan base completely over
01:17:20
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you know their shift or like slowly grow to despise their fan base is a weird thing that we saw it happen with Yiannopoulos. Ben Kissel is one on the left so that way people don't think we're just harping on in one lane here but Ben Kissel from last podcast on the left he
01:17:41
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Yeah, that that was a strange one. I don't know. It happens on all sides. So it's but it's just it is it is always interesting. And let's be honest, slightly entertaining based on how much you hate them. When you like them, it's sad and hurtful and you feel unhappy. But yeah, hate them. You revel in it and enjoy it. And
01:18:05
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watch as many videos as you can, and then, uh, occasionally talk about it on your podcast. Yeah. Gringo poppy. Yeah. Well, in, uh, to sum up Steven Crowder. Oh, new sound drop. So, uh, yeah. Uh, if you like the show, share it with a friend.
01:18:32
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Leave us a review wherever you listen to it and we have a discord. Don't forget about that. We've got a lot of people in there now and it's been a lot more place, pretty regularly active, have some good conversations going. I love it. It's, uh, I would say some of our more popular categories right now are outside things where.
01:18:53
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Casey and others, not so much myself, because I'm not the outdoorsman that these Boy Scouts are, but a lot of cool pictures of various bugs and flowers and cool shit. That one's been going pretty strong and it's fun. I feel like it's been even more active lately than usual and some good conversations going on. Fun stuff being shared. So definitely join us.
01:19:20
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Yeah. And, uh, oh, next week we are doing, uh, we'll be airing a interview that we did with. Yeah. Uh, director. Writer, director, producer, and the actor. Yeah. And the main actor in a movie called pastor's kid, which is a Christian movie, but it's a rated R Christian movie. And it's actually pretty good movie.
01:19:47
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Like we both watched it ahead of time and then had some fun talking to those guys. And it was a good time. It's kind of about a it's about a it follows a young lady whose mom had been kind of a mess all throughout her childhood. And then she has this like redemptive conversion experience becomes a Christian and turns her life around and stuff. But like comes a minister doesn't necessarily deal with
01:20:16
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The type of mom she had been before that and you know leaves the naturally leaves a pretty bad taste in the teenage. Daughter's mouth afterwards and it's kind of about her coming to grips with some of those things and learning to have empathy for her mom and.
01:20:35
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dealing with some of those feelings and stuff. And some of the same struggles too. I appreciate what they did with this film. I think that you could say it's a Christian film that's rated R and that can sound really stupid.
01:20:54
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I think the way they did it was an important step for them. I just heard it in my headphones, that P popping, sorry. Because I'm traveling, I don't have my normal setup. So if you get that pop sound, I hope that hasn't been happening all podcast, but I just noticed it and that bothered me.
01:21:14
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Thanks for drawing attention to it. Yeah, whatever. Fuck it. Well, it's the end of the podcast. So if they didn't notice it then, they're not going to go back and re listen and and try to pick all the points where it happened. But anyway, I think what what this guy's done with the film is a good, a great and big and important step forward for Christian films in the way that they make the characters present as normal. The language is normal.
01:21:44
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It's like, it's nice. It was like, you forget kind of what you're watching sometimes when you're, I don't know. I mean, I swear a lot. So I'm kind of, it's like just part of my normal conversation, the way I talk at this point. So when you like, when you're watching these, you don't, you kind of zone out. But what I noticed is when nobody's ever swearing ever, you're just like, what is going on in this movie where no one's talking like regular people?
01:22:12
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It's like, yeah, a bunch of college kids all doing drugs and shit and no one's, no one's saying these words. So I don't know. I notice when people don't talk a certain way because that's what makes you sound not like it makes it sound a little bit phony. And I think like that's that's the trappings of a lot of Christian movies is like people talk in a very phony way. Christian media has always got this problem where they like
01:22:39
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They feel this need to like whitewash relationships and stuff too. We're like, oh, we need to portray, like we can have one naughty character, but like they have to kind of get their comeuppance. And like, we have to portray the, the, the, you know, the empathizable characters as, you know, respecting their parents. It's a black and white, everything's black and white.
01:23:05
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They can't do drugs. They can struggle with peer pressure, but they can't do drugs. It's dumb, and it makes all of those things so bad.
01:23:18
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You know, and I think they, uh, they did a really cool thing with this where like, it's a faith-based movie and there's some of that messaging and stuff in there, but it's not so like on the nose. It really just puts the story of this woman's life out there, which it's based on a true story. And it leaves you with room to think rather than just failing you. Like, and then she realized she had to give it all to God. Yeah, exactly.
01:23:48
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Just terrible. So it was a great conversation. It's like a Christian movie made by people who actually make movies and have like film experience and script writing experience and stuff like, you know, a movie that someone might pay to watch aside from their like pure flick subscription or whatever.
01:24:09
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Yeah, it's a good conversation. I really liked that. I really liked the people. I think it was a really fun conversation. So I'm excited to put that one out next week. Yeah. And I think that's out this month. Like sometime this month, you'll be able to actually rent it and watch it at home and stuff. So yeah, it's going to be good. So make sure you tune in and, uh, you know, we hear.
01:24:34
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frequently from some people that have been long time listeners and we really appreciate you guys. Thank you for sticking it out.
01:24:47
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Sometimes the show is not what we set out to make. I think we've changed a lot over the past few years talking about this stuff all the time. If you listen to episode one and you hear my takes and where I was at, it's different three years later, for sure. I had much different ideas of what I wanted this to be.
01:25:12
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I mean, now I feel like we just we've drifted into wanting to do make this fun and entertaining. And I mean, we obviously talk about things that matter to us and we have our beliefs and our messaging. But I don't know. I feel like we're just it's I feel like we're I think what I think when we started, we had this idea of like trying to make a particular type of show for a reason.
01:25:38
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whether it's because we thought it would pop off in a certain way or whatever, but I feel like the shift was like making a show we'd want to listen to ourselves and not pigeonholing ourselves into a certain category, which I think kind of, I think, sorry, you were making a point and I jumped in, go ahead.
01:26:06
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No, I'm with you.
Audience Engagement and Social Media Challenges
01:26:08
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I just think, you know, thanks for everybody who's been here. Yeah. And it's cool to hear from you guys. And yeah, and if I don't follow us on Instagram for some of the when we dive into the political realm of why Israel is doing some fucked up shit because.
01:26:27
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I have noticed I pay attention to that shit and I have noticed not a lot But I've noticed a dip in the people who follow us when we post things like that. So we do That's funny to me. It's our cross the bear Social media is everyone's crossed a bear really weird out here being so right basically winning the war for the Gazans like we have Yeah, I mean but
01:26:54
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What would they do like us? If we lose a few followers, I guess it's worth it. All right, that's enough. Thanks for listening. We will see you later.