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The One With Barry & Mindy's Wedding
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Join Alasdair and DeeAnn as discuss the perils of blowing bubbles with gum, a friends themed vow renewal and the infamous AOL modem noise!
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Season Two Finale Introduction
00:00:08
Speaker
Well, hello and welcome to this week's episode, the season two finale of the Purple Door Podcast, a Friends Rewatch pod. I am one of your hosts, Alistair, alongside Deanne. Deanne, how are you today?
00:00:22
Speaker
Al, I am awesome. And I am shocked. i cannot believe that we are already here at the end of season two. can't believe it. um And this is a good It's It's a good one's and good one.
00:00:39
Speaker
So I'm just pumped to be sitting here talking with you about it and and ready to close out our season. I'm excited.
Reflecting on Season Two
00:00:47
Speaker
it's it's a It's a weird feeling because this purple door, it's it's our baby. And it's like, I suppose it literally is like when a child grows up, it's like, okay, we're only at the end of season two. We have a ton more to go.
00:00:58
Speaker
But we're we're like 20% or whatever of the way through the whole series. And that makes me a little sad. Yeah. Yeah. So that's okay, though. That's okay.
Plans for Season Two Recap
00:01:09
Speaker
um But yeah, the we will we're penciling in doing a season two recap next week before we get into season three. We're hoping to make that happen. But I do feel we are kind of finishing the season on a really good, interesting, funny episode. um With one of my faves showing back up.
00:01:30
Speaker
I have no doubt right at
Recording Challenges and Confidence
00:01:33
Speaker
the end. This is the one with Barry and Mindy's wedding. I should say we are recording via Zoom. Wilson doesn't have a camera where she is. And we're on a bit of a time crunch. But I'm absolutely confident we are gonna we're going to churn out a stellar episode. Yes. Well, I could not let the day go by because i was i am I'm pumped to talk about it.
00:01:55
Speaker
This one is exciting. Do you have some bamboozled for us? Oh, I do. i do i have ah I have a meager eight questions this week. Okay, I have nine.
00:02:06
Speaker
Okay, well, that means you go first. All righty. So, first question.
Trivia: Joey's Director Audition
00:02:12
Speaker
um Who's the director that Joey auditioned for and this episode? Oh, that is Warren Beatty.
00:02:20
Speaker
Yes. Ding, ding, ding. who For some reason gets a mention in Frasier once as well, which is why it kind of stuck in my head. Well, because he was so huge at that time with Dick Tracy and, and, you know, he was, ah he was the big, I'm trying to think of who would be the equivalent of him right now. Maybe goodness. Yes.
00:02:44
Speaker
oh goodness Wolverine what's his name Wolverine greatest showman Hugh Jackman you there you go yes he he's kind of you know where he's very versatile and he is dreamy and you know and talented and all the things so yeah he was definitely huge huge at that time oh
Trivia: Living Room Revelation
00:03:06
Speaker
All right, let's see. My first one for you is when Rachel comes out to reveal the pink dress, who are the which is amazing, who are the four people in the living room?
00:03:17
Speaker
Okay, so there's Richard. Yep. And Monica. Yep. And Phoebe. Yeah. and And, of course, Ross. And, of course, yeah. Yes, and then Chandler comes in. Yeah. The way he laughs is just so good.
00:03:40
Speaker
So good. Oh, it is. It is so good. But I also like whenever, you know Ross is pumping her up and then he steps out and he's like, ah you know, um whatever it is. you he's a Tell her she looks good. Tell her she looks good.
00:03:57
Speaker
Right. It's so well done. all right. Let's see. Question two from you. Oh, yeah. So what does Rachel say she looks like?
00:04:09
Speaker
Okay, I want to ask you about this. a Oh, no. Oh, no. That's me. But no, that's what Chandler calls it. Never mind. She says she looks like a marshmallow peep. Is that right?
00:04:22
Speaker
Well, okay. So she said the that she, what I was thinking of is whenever she says something that you take whenever you have an upset stomach. Oh, that's right. And she's referring to Pepto-Bismol. Yes. No, you are right. Okay. Yes.
00:04:38
Speaker
I mean. Yeah, maybe she says marshmallow peep or somebody else does later on in the show, like in the episode. Okay. So I don't even remember anybody saying marshmallow peep.
00:04:49
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to have to look that up. I might be thinking of something else. But I remember the fact of this moment. She looked like that to you. Maybe that was what Al Green thought. Might just be. Might just be. That was my inference on the dress. All right. Now, I'm trying to phrase this question correctly. What words does Chandler use to describe himself when he's talking about the woman he met online?
00:05:13
Speaker
He says, I'm this and this, and she calls me out on it. Oh, sarcastic and ah and quippy. So if you got one of them, he says defended and quippy. Defensive and quippy. Okay. So, yeah right. It should be like grammatically speaking, it should be defensive and quick quippy. But both he says, and on the subtitles, is I am defended and quippy, which doesn't really make sense in this context to me.
00:05:45
Speaker
It doesn't. At all. But I went back and put the subtitles on and watched the scene again. um Yeah. But you got quippy, which is a great one.
Trivia: Richard on Baby Talk
00:05:55
Speaker
dang defended and quippy yes all right so why does richard say that babies learn to talk ah the exact phrase escapes me it's basically to tell grown-ups to stop it yes to cut it out to cut it out that's it which is fantastic yeah um
00:06:18
Speaker
when Monica and Richard are talking about whether there's going to be a basset or bassinet in the corner and she kind of says, Oh, we'll talk about it in the future. And then she gives two examples of things that may happen in the future. Do you know what those are?
00:06:37
Speaker
She talks about things. Okay. Hang on. Because I can think of this scene because they're there. They're sitting at the things. ah And, and,
00:06:49
Speaker
She's talking about, and she's, yeah, a bassinet because the baby would fall off the dog. Yep. And she says, like, I'm talking way in the future. I'm talking about dot, dot. of The apes? Okay, yeah with the apes taking over the planet or the world, planet or Earth, or or because it's Planet of the Apes reference. yeah again yeah Again. not the first. Yes, and then the other...
00:07:18
Speaker
It's not, she doesn't say flying cars. You're very close. You're very close. Hang on, hang on, because it's it's like back to the future. Hover, hover, hover, hover, hoverboards?
00:07:34
Speaker
No, it's, to me, that answer makes more sense because she says hovercrafts, which exist. Oh. Like even in the 90s, a hovercraft going across... what Now I assume she's talking about flying ones, but she's hovercrafts, which... Is is a thing. It's a thing. They've been around for a long time.
00:07:53
Speaker
Okay. Well,
Bridesmaids Discussion
00:07:55
Speaker
dang it. You improved on Monica's answer. I would really like for for... Yeah, this should have been logical with the dialogue, I guess. Exactly. Defended hovercraft.
00:08:08
Speaker
ah Okay. Um... uh who does chandler think rachel looks like in her bridesmaids dress and hat okay this is i want we we'll get into this but he says princess bubble yum oh okay well what did you hear at that time whenever she comes in the first thing he says is we don't have your sheep oh that's right yes the bull peep reference yes you're absolutely right
00:08:41
Speaker
um i forgot i do like that line i forgot i was trying to be was trying to be like you had to connect those dots not yes from the dialogue it's because i want to talk to about this princess bubble yum so well you brought it up twice yes now i'm excited okay yes well nothing to be i need to lean on your or maybe curious curious It's your American childhood I need to lean on. okay. But we'll get into that. um What website is Chandler looking at because he likes funny words?
00:09:14
Speaker
Oh, the Guggenheim. It is the Guggenheim. Yes. yeah Because his online girlfriend likes museums
Trivia: Chandler's Online Girlfriend
00:09:22
Speaker
and he likes funny words. Yes.
00:09:25
Speaker
So what is Chandler's online girlfriend's method of birth control? her unfortunately her husband is sleeping with his secretary wowa wa walk well i'm now just going to skip skip over a question that i'll come back to because i was going to ask you how does chandler determine what his lady friends oh no how does chandler determine his lady friend is exactly a woman oh they yeah so you've already she's got that husband yes yep yep okay is that a question
00:09:58
Speaker
Yeah, that was one of mine, yes. Oh, okay. So, ah how many bridesmaids are at the head table? Oh, I didn't even think to count them, but I'm going to guess...
00:10:12
Speaker
Logic tells me I should say four, but I'm going to go with three. Okay, three is correct. All right. But I was trying to count how many people are in the pink dress before they go walking out.
00:10:25
Speaker
And there are more than three people. So I'm curious why only three of them are sitting at the head table. That is interesting. All right. But I i counted two different numbers, so I didn't ask you how many bridesmaids.
00:10:40
Speaker
Okay. Because I also tried to count the flowers that the lady was handing out. And I was like, no, this is too hard. So I stopped. I have some thoughts on the wedding, which obviously we'll get, and and the people in the wedding, but we'll get to that later too. um How do, or let's see, do I phrase this? What did Joey say Monica did to stop him kissing Richard?
00:11:08
Speaker
Oh, knee him in the back. Which, to me, she would have had to jump. And need and that's that's quite a dramatic move. Right. I feel like she'd probably knee him in the back of his knees. That's what I'm hoping. Because I was trying to think if Kate was going to knee me in the back, she would need a running start and a good vertical leap, I think. Yes. But I think you're taller than Joey is.
00:11:33
Speaker
Maybe, maybe, you know, and yeah but yeah it it seemed like an odd thing to say. Yes. OK, what flower did Ross hand Rachel during Copacabana?
00:11:48
Speaker
Was it a pink rose? It was. Oh, right. remember x I remember was pink and then rose was a guess. Yes. Nice job. Excellent. um And I'm going to ask you later on about that, too, if I remember, because that that was a Wilson moment to me. um or It created a Wilson question. but I am going to ask you, speaking of Rachel singing the Coco Cabana, what grade was she in when she initially sung it? Eighth grade.
00:12:16
Speaker
Eighth grade, indeed. yeah nice Yes. Nice. All right. So how many times did Monica say that Richard said, if I have to? Oh, that's a great question because I know it's not an exact number. Well, she says an exact number.
00:12:34
Speaker
But then I counted and it is not correct. that that's a fun That's a fun fact. Yeah. um No, I know that... yeah if oh This is either completely wrong or somehow lodged in my head. 17...
00:12:51
Speaker
It is 17. It lodged in your head. Somehow it's lodged in. Because she says, you know, if you didn't say if I have to 17 times, but he only said it four. Interesting. I like that. i like that catch. She was being dramatic, which is fine. I'm here for it. oh yeah Always, always. ah My final question for you is what time does Rachel walk out of this wedding?
Wedding Timing Discussion
00:13:21
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Well, okay. so they said she was going to walk out at 945, but she didn't because she started singing Copacabana.
00:13:32
Speaker
She gave her a little spiel and then she gave her sing. That's true. Very true. I should mean i should have wanted that better you're She didn't actually walk out. You're right. Okay.
00:13:44
Speaker
What color are Janice's earrings? You know, i thought before, we I re-watched this yesterday, that you would ask me a good numbers or colors question and then didn't make any notes.
00:13:58
Speaker
I am just going to go with yellow. They're actually pink and they're awesome because I feel like her outfit, whenever she walks into that coffee shop, was so specifically tailored for what is I feel like Janice was very intentional about her outfit.
00:14:21
Speaker
Like, and as you would, right? If you're on your way to a coffee shop to meet somebody that, I i don't know. There's a whole nother situation.
00:14:33
Speaker
But it was a very tailored, very, because it was a very blue, like the blue purple, that color that I can't see if it's blue or purple. And I always say the wrong color.
00:14:45
Speaker
um And then pink, pink earrings that are like dangly, like um very like mid-90s earrings. I love the fact that you can, you know, what color are they? They are the color pink and the color awesome.
00:15:01
Speaker
Yes. I love
00:15:06
Speaker
Four things we should say. That's the color. Awesome. Yes, yes. But it it ah it it pops. it's It's a good color with her dark hair and the blue blue purple dress. and And maybe it's a little nod to the pink dress that Rachel's wearing and Chandler makes fun of it. you but ah definitely not the same color pink ok okay okay not Pepto-Bismol Bubble Yum pink all of that I love it do you have any more questions for me because I'm I don't I don't and we didn't double up any like we did a great job we did well we did well this I love it did a great job
00:15:45
Speaker
Still not as much fun as whenever we get to compete with Kate. No, that's just carnage. We did a great job. That's just carnage. We're all over the place and it's amazing. She will be back soon without doubt. She enjoys it. Yeah. Good. Let's see. Well, let's get just
Joey's Audition Excitement
00:16:05
Speaker
stuck right into this episode. We start Central Park. Joey, very excited. Great audition with Warren Beatty. I do love that he calls him Mr. Beatty. You know, like he's, you know, he shows some respect there, but apparently he's a bad kisser.
00:16:21
Speaker
Yeah. And I, again, i in my head, this is the B plot. It's one of my favorites of the whole season. Joey trying to kiss a guy. Just the way it plays out. Yeah. yeah And it just the way Joey handles it all throughout the whole episode. um bitter So Joey, he ends up trying to kiss Chandler.
00:16:47
Speaker
And then Ross, I do love, let's see, is Chandler who says he'll use Ross's, his dead body as a shield? Yes, because Ross says, over my dead body, and he's like, okay, he's like, no, no, I'll be using his dead body as a shield. I love that phrase. um i just It's one of those ones that maybe it's not that funny, but I find it really funny and it just sticks with me. um But poor old Joey.
00:17:19
Speaker
He's just looking for some... I think he's he's already kissed Phoebe at this point, who would recommend him to a friend. yeah um Good old Phoebe. um But we go straight up to the girls' apartment. This is where the episode really kicks off with Rachel coming at in this hideous pink dress. um You know, Ross doesn't want to go to this wedding. Now, i was going ask you, um again, we're being conscious
Deanne's Bridesmaid Experience
00:17:43
Speaker
of time to today. we We have busy days. Have you ever been a bridesmaid?
00:17:47
Speaker
Yes, I have, Al. I have been a bridesmaid. I... Oh, God. I honestly cannot tell you how many off the top of my head, but quite a few.
00:17:59
Speaker
Good for you. Quite a few. Yes, and... but Thank goodness, none of the brides that I had the honor of ah being a bridesmaid picked a dress like that.
00:18:15
Speaker
Nothing, nobody, a couple of the brides, like we all wore the same dress and then other brides, we wore, um you know, like all the same color dresses.
00:18:27
Speaker
ah But we could pick the style of the dress. Oh, that seems that sounds funny. And then once I was a best woman and i got to pick my own dress. so yeah I love that.
00:18:41
Speaker
Yeah. um But I never ah got to wear a hat, a terrible hat or anything like that. Like I have a lot of my bridesmaids dresses. I say a lot. I have a few of my bridesmaids dresses still.
00:18:57
Speaker
and um And then others of them got used for Halloween costumes for like a prom queen, a bloody prom queen one year. and um And then Haley, I gave one to Haley and she was a bloody prom queen. Yeah.
00:19:14
Speaker
yeah know I'm now having a great idea um ah of the last thing either Kate or I would ever really want to do is renew our vows. We're not like, we neither of us want to be the center of attention or in any kind of big party. But man, live wouldn't it be fun if we renewed our vows and had a friend's theme wedding and you had to wear that as one of Kate's bridesmaids and I'll dress up as the holiday armadillo and walk down the aisle. Oh my God. And then everybody who comes.
00:19:45
Speaker
Okay. So here's the deal, Al. Yep. joe Joseph and I are coming up on 20 years. We are, we just celebrated 18. And so we've got 19 and then the next year we'll be 20. All right. And I have, we were both so very nervous. Joseph does not enjoy being the center of attention and having a lot of people and stuff like that. But I have often fantasized about like doing it over again and having, you know, it just not, you know, like just a little different 20 years later and involving our kids and all that.
00:20:27
Speaker
And God, that would be awesome. Right. It's just fun. He would go with Spudnik. Yeah. He's right. And then it's just fun. It's not serious and stressful and everyone watching you like an official wedding. It's just fun. All right. So then let's think through that. If we do two seasons, oh my gosh, we could still be doing this.
00:20:50
Speaker
And then... I want to do it. Okay. All right. We have, this is, yes, but um okay. This sounds like a super fun idea. I am in, Kate and I, we just had 10 years, so we don't have the significance of a big one coming up like you guys do. It is the Woolison Friends Vow Renewal.
00:21:11
Speaker
let's We'll just go down to our friends at Miss Angeline's and have a friend's party. It'll be awesome. Oh my gosh. Yes. Yes. We are workshopping this for the next, I don't know, 18 months or whatever it is. oh yes. I'll let them know. We had, okay, so our engagement was six weeks.
00:21:28
Speaker
Six weeks. And so, like, ah we would actually, like, plan this and and it would not be stressful anyway. But, like,
00:21:39
Speaker
it Oh, this is a great idea. All right. We're in. Joseph, just wait. It's going to be awesome. he yes we will We've got time to get him on board. Don't you worry. Yes. I love every minute of this. But you one of your bridesmaids might look like Princess Bubblegum, but who in the world is?
Chandler's Nickname for the Dress
00:22:01
Speaker
I've always thought Chandler said, or whoever it was that said, it said Princess Bubblegum. He did. It was Princess Bubblegum.
00:22:09
Speaker
so yeah yum with a y with a y now who is do i have any idea if that is a real character absolutely not but i do know exactly what he's referencing bubble yum the bubble gum bubble yum seea i've never heard of this and this is why i knew leading on you would be useful All right. So then, al you need to go to the gas station. And then if that gas station doesn't have it, you need to go to the next one. But there is Bubblicious and there is Bubble Yum. and those are like the two best bubblegums. Now, you've got like bubble gum.
00:22:52
Speaker
gum that you get out of the like, you know, the giant bubble gum like containers and they're like hard and, you know, chew on them and they let the flavor last about 13 seconds. Right.
00:23:05
Speaker
Okay. And then you've got like fruit stripe gum where you can't even blow bubbles with it and it's terrible. Okay. But like true bubble gum where you can blow the big bubbles and it's kind of fluffy and, and you can chew it and all of that. Cause you've got like bazooka and that's like really hard bubble gum and it's not good.
00:23:29
Speaker
But anyway, so I have gone off on a tangent, but you should go to the candy store. Go to the candy store on the square because they're going to have all the different kinds bubblegum. That's what I was just thinking. I've got a confession to make to you that you don't know about me.
00:23:47
Speaker
Oh, okay. Get ready. Hold on to your seat. It's a big one. Are you about to tell me you don't know how to blow a bubble? I have never blown a bubble in my life. Never? I've never managed. I've tried a handful of times because Kate's an expert and she's tried to teach me.
00:24:04
Speaker
And if i' I've just shot gum across the room. Oh, Like Chandler in the ATM vestibule. Yeah. just I've just never done it. So this this this might be give me like a mission. If I go get some bubble gum.
00:24:19
Speaker
Al, Al, Al. Yes. Yes. Get some bubble yum, get some bubblicious, and then you can compare the two. All right. i I'm on it. But Al, like, here is the thing. You know how you you need to teach me how to juggle?
00:24:34
Speaker
Yes. Okay. So I have taught kindergartners how to blow bubbles. So if you could teach a kindergartner, I would hope that and all the things, like that was one of our writing units that we would do whenever I taught kindergarten. So we can share. All right, we've got this. I'm going to learn to juggle. You're going to learn to blow bubbles. Done deal. I'm in. Okay. All right. Well, let's see. Where are we? No! It's an educational podcast as well. We're learning things here at the Purple Door. Chandler comes in. He spent all night talking. I'm going to kind of move through this a bit quickly again, just conscious of the time. He's met this online woman. Richard doesn't like him like this when he's just playing like straight Chandler. He's not funny Chandler.
00:25:31
Speaker
um But Monica and Richard end up talking about the future. And, you know, he wants he's all he seems OK with the hound, but the bassinet, you know, he loves kids. He's got kids. um he may even have a grandkid at this point i think he does i think we've established that yeah um but monica i mean we all know she's she has to have children um but she's walking through that just now um we go over to the boy's apartment joey tries to talk chandler into kissing no means no right Um, and then let's see, Phoebe and Chandler talk about the, you know, his lady friend. Um, and it does turn out she's married. This is the scene where, let's see, I'm trying to remember the exact context, but love the, the, the line, how do you not fall down more? It's Chandler talking to Joey.
00:26:28
Speaker
Oh yeah. Because, oh that was so funny because he comes in there inside, um Oh, goodness. Yes.
00:26:39
Speaker
Maybe it's from seeing Richard or something. you know add You know, when he's gone out to do that. But i just don't quite remember the context. But it's a great, it's just a simple, great line. Yes, and it was.
00:26:52
Speaker
um But let's make our way over to the wedding. Monica and Richard are joking um about their previous conversation. But they've alld they're obviously kind of making small talk because they're thinking both thinking about their previous conversation. Okay.
00:27:06
Speaker
Okay. yeah jump harry yeah no Jump in. no I'm backtracking. I'm backtracking. Because he they were trying to figure out if she was really a woman. And we were trying to figure out if she was a girl. And so Joey asks her how long she's going to live. That's it. That's the one. that's it Because women live them longer than men. That makes sense. duh there's some logic here it's flawed but there is logic yeah and and i just joey kind of nods like it makes perfect sense that's right um rachel's nervous and unfortunately has had a bit of a bathroom faux pas as she walks into the wedding down the aisle poor old rachel um
00:27:50
Speaker
which will get to get to all of that, ah you know, the wedding. But that's poor old Ray. Very sad. It's a shame Ross didn't catch it right before he walked in. He should have.
00:28:00
Speaker
But he didn't because she's standing against the wall. She's standing like with the wall right behind her. Right. And so they're talking and then he turns around and leaves and then she walks over with that. Right. Okay. But they cut out a line here. Okay. Because like right after that, you know, ah she, she's like, why didn't you tell me, you know? and then he's like, what was I supposed to say? Hey, Rachel, your butt's showing. Yeah.
00:28:29
Speaker
And then they cut out the line where she goes, yeah, better you than Barry's uncle. Ah, yeah, that wasn't there. That's a good one. So then it's like, oh, my God, somebody else yelled it out. That's mortifying. Now, at that point, whenever he saw her going down the aisle, he should have just jumped up, pulled it out, jumped back. That's what I'm thinking. People would have noticed that.
00:28:56
Speaker
But that's way better than letting her stand up there. Yeah, the damage is done. Jump up. Yeah, I agree. i It's not going to get worse. Or it could only get worse. You can't. yeah And you're not calling attention to it because I guarantee but everybody else noticing. Right, right. You know, like, you just fix it.
00:29:16
Speaker
Don't be a jerk. Yeah, just handle it. Absolutely. um Let's see, where are we? um Well, after the wedding, Mr. and Mrs. Weinberg say they're glad to see Rachel up and about. And it's the third time somebody said something. Now, we'll get, you know, I'm just going to gloss over this now because...
00:29:37
Speaker
it It would take too long to go into it. But both Mr. Mrs. Weinberg and one of the other bridesmaids have been extras in Friends in previous episodes. Really? Which I didn't know. I i just i Googled it. And yeah, I can't remember the roles. I think the lady, Mrs. Weinberg, was...
00:29:55
Speaker
a janitor in the hospital when... Where were they in the hospital? Somebody's been in the hospital. Maybe when Ross was. When he broke his nose. Like, just in the background. Wasn't a prominent character. um I'll look up again we'll talk about a bit I was quite surprised and... um The singer on the stage, which we'll get to the stage, is the same singer at Monica and Chandler's spoiler alert wedding.
00:30:21
Speaker
It's the same guy. Really? Apparently so. Apparently so. That's fun. Right. I love that stuff, that kind of deep diving stuff. ah But Barry's parents told everyone Rachel went insane from the syphilis. i did i didn't want I didn't want to Google that one on my computer because who knows what might pop up. But I didn't know that that would be a possibility.
00:30:45
Speaker
it's Yeah, is it because it is. because And the only reason like that i would this even sticks in my brain is because whenever Columbus came, that was one of the things, is that they brought syphilis, but then it made everybody crazy.
00:31:07
Speaker
that' You know what? That does ring a bell. That does ring a bell. So, i mean, is that fact? i have no idea, but that Who knows? Do you know that that could be stuck in my brain from this one line on this one TV show? It wouldn't surprise me. And so I say it like it's fact, but like it could be stuck there and then attached to something else. And that's a conclusion that I drew. ah So if any of our listeners know, for sure, let us know, because we don't want to Google it
00:31:48
Speaker
It's funny, right after we get we we finish here, well, in a little bit, about half an hour, I'm recording an episode of We're Listening, which is the Fraser podcast, which I guest host on sometimes. And they've talked about, I've seen the episode we're reviewing many times, and they talk about an artist. I always assumed he was a real artist. I found out this morning it's a made-up name.
00:32:10
Speaker
yeah so i just again i took it verbatim because i saw it on the show so i mean it does happen it definitely um well maybe your friend our friends over on um we're the you're the oh my gosh you got this we're listening what i'm trying to say we got it maybe they know if bliss makes people crazy for sure i might have to drop that into casual conversation we'll see what happens um Let's see, we go back to the boys' apartment. Joey's on the phone with Angela trying to connect with her boyfriend, um which is just, it's a little unhinged, but very funny. yeah Chandler's not answering the messages, because and she keeps, what's BBC, like bing binging him? or big are Bing bong. Bing bong, whatever it is. yeah um Oh, see, and that made me think about ah and bing bong. The guy on um the Inside Out movies on the first one.
00:33:10
Speaker
yeah Yes. Yes. Bing bong. Yep. Absolutely. But good old Phoebe. Phoebe believes in love. You know, this might be Chandler's opportunity. Maybe he's not the right guy. Maybe Chandler is the right guy.
00:33:23
Speaker
um she i don't know that it's love but the universe she definitely believes in and karma and the universe and all those things higher power absolutely yes because we all know chandler definitely does but he really is a romantic he does believe in love but he does yes but that other piece is is of the universe right um we spend most of the ah pretty much all the rest of the show up until the very end at the wedding and i want to i want to ask you a couple of questions about this um well firstly first is a statement the best man is a jerk um who stands up and gives the speech oh so i'll give you a couple of thoughts and questions and then you tell me what you think i think the best man's a jerk um
00:34:14
Speaker
The whole wedding is somehow about Rachel, even Barry, the best man. How is Mindy not furious? Like, as a bride, and honestly, she seems kind of upper class and stuck up.
00:34:27
Speaker
You know, suddenly her very fancy wedding is all about the woman that Barry would have, could have married. and And then what do you think? Is Ross in the right or the wrong for standing up and and kind of defending Rachel, but was it his place? What are your thoughts on this whole wedding scene? Yeah. yeah What a bunch of weirdos.
00:34:48
Speaker
right And why do they have this same band? And why it reminds me of um the wedding in, of, ah oh gosh, Phyllis's wedding on The Office. where and Pam goes and she's like oh my god it's my wedding yes and the initials are the same and yes yes like everything is the same and I kind of feel this is very similar where I agree they've stuck they followed the same kind of things And yeah, the best man is a total jerk. Like, why would you do that? And why are they all making fun of Rachel? And why is Rachel even there? Right. like Right. um
00:35:33
Speaker
It's just so messed up. And so was Ross right? You know what? Typically in real life, I would be like, what a idiot.
00:35:44
Speaker
Like, shut up. But no, I'm okay with it. And I feel like, though, that there was probably some he's doing that to kind of make up for the fact that he didn't help her with her butt showing.
00:36:01
Speaker
i think You know, like maybe that's I really screwed up. Here's an opportunity for me to try to make things right. Right. rights and But yeah, I don't understand why any of them are there. And then i think she was totally fine.
00:36:17
Speaker
At that point, everybody thought she was crazy and had syphilis and um all of that. And one of the lines that got cut is whenever she's talking to Barry and Barry's like, well, yeah, i had to tell them that you, what was I going to tell them? You know, that you weren't in love with me anymore. And she was like, those were your choices.
00:36:37
Speaker
that right to tell the truth or that i don't understand like you know um but i i don't i think it was fine right i think it was fine because i think it was all about her anyway i right i think so which the whole premise is very odd um we we we kind of end oh sorry go ahead go ahead All those people suck. All of them do. So maybe that helps Ross, makes Ross look good.
00:37:09
Speaker
He goes, yeah, it's just such a weird, weird crowd. At the end of the wedding, the wedding scene, Richard says, yeah, I'll have kids if I have to, if I have to. But I think they both know that this is kind of the end of the road for this relationship because, yeah, Monica sees, was it the two girls dancing together? And she just, she knows. She she knows that that's in her, this this urge to to have children.
00:37:36
Speaker
yeah So it's it's sad. It is. It's heartbreaking because they both come to that realization Yeah, at that the same time, and it's not like they had a big fight. Like, they're more in love than ever, but they've realized that it's not not meant to be. Which is sad. It it it does. It makes... Because they're so good together. I mean, I know there's the age difference and the practicalities, but personality-wise, they're great together.
00:38:04
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. They really, really are. um All right. To me, we get to the big scene of the episode here.
Chandler and Janice Scenes
00:38:11
Speaker
Yes. Yes. Did you feel that there was a huge parallel between this scene And the one that we reviewed previously where he is breaking up with Janice, where he's pacing, slamming back espressos. You know, he has like 15 coffees, that nervous pacing waiting for Janice, one to break up with her. And then one, he doesn't even know it's her, but he's getting together with her.
00:38:39
Speaker
Oh my goodness. Wow. No, I did not until right now. Yeah. that's so, and everybody's there. Yeah.
00:38:49
Speaker
Yet they're all there like soing it's supporting him in in his endeavor. Wow. oh you love that. That's great. I hope it's a deliberate choice by the writers, or even if it was just by Matthew Perry. But it to me, it had a very similar air, even though the the you know it's the exact opposite thing. But I liked it.
00:39:10
Speaker
I liked it. Well, and then it makes me think of the time whenever she shows up and she's pregnant. Yes. Oh, there's that too. Yes. Yeah. And that's in there and that's with everybody else. Whenever she comes in. Hi, Chena Bean.
00:39:24
Speaker
um Yeah, well, that's a fun little parallel. And and I was thinking, and and again, you and I are ah a similar vintage. um I was thinking it was odd that they wouldn't know each other's names. But I was thinking back in the early days of like online chat, you really just had to like a username, like a screen name. Oh, yes. Yeah. So it actually wouldn't be that that weird.
00:39:49
Speaker
to necessarily not know each other's real name like maybe they both just said i want to wait till we meet but it's not like they had a ah social media profile or something you know they you just had your aol username or whatever whatever yeah yeah ah all right al what was your aol username You know what? I had it and it stuck with me to this day. It was Scottish Beagle, which is to this day my Yahoo email address that I use for you know anything not work related. I've got two personal email addresses. One of them is still Scottish Beagle at yahoo.com. Because when I made an account, I had a Beagle and I thought, well, that and that was available with no numbers at the end. I wanted to get an account with no numbers. What about you?
00:40:38
Speaker
ah Mine was D-E-P-H-I. Oh, P-P-P, which makes sense. Yes. Well, and it was because my me and my brother, we had one computer and we set it up and ah we got our little free AOL disk in the mail. Yes. And it what we were sharing, but we never shared.
00:41:02
Speaker
Because he's 10 years younger than me. And I was probably what, 16 or 17 and he was sick. And we didn't know how emails and all those things are going to work.
00:41:13
Speaker
And so I've still got that email address. I love that. Yeah, whatever. That's funny. It was just the ah it was literally just in the news a few weeks ago. The AOL was actually stopping its dial up service. Like it it's kept going. It's been a thing.
00:41:32
Speaker
It's yeah in like super rural communities. And and they actually said that a decent. Oh, yeah. We can all hear that noise, um which yeah that takes you back. But they said there was a decent amount of people who were still getting charged like $3.95 on their credit cards for years, like who just never canceled their accounts.
00:41:54
Speaker
Yeah. My dad was one of them. There you go. Maybe 10 years ago, um we were saying something and then we ended up going back and they like provided...
00:42:07
Speaker
like that pay because that's interesting yeah because we called and it was like yeah this has been going on for years and years and years that's good for them but yeah it's all just I swear it was just maybe the last two months um I read the thing that they were how funny actually closing the door on that that noise um we finish up here I do love this Ross walks in damn it he's a good friend and he kisses Joey but Joey had the audition and But again, one of my top lines from this episode, Rachel's a very lucky girl.
00:42:42
Speaker
Yes.
00:42:46
Speaker
Which I love. And then I've got a little bit of fun information I want to share with you to round this episode off. Okay. um And let's see, i have not verified this. I did a little Googling this morning and somebody said that this episode and the one with the proposal in a few seasons time are the only two season finales of the entire show that do not end in a cliffhanger that involves Ross and Rachel.
Season Finale Trivia
00:43:15
Speaker
Oh, that's nice. Yeah, it I'm going to be conscious of that now and kind of look through the list of episodes. But somebody says that they've done the research. They looked at the end. This is just one of two. Huh.
00:43:28
Speaker
Well, yeah, because season one was a cliffhanger for Russ and Rachel. Indeed. Because you remember, it was supposed to be whenever Ben was born. That's right. But it wasn't. And then it all changed. And talked about how that would have been a good ending.
00:43:43
Speaker
That would have been a really good one. Right. Because that was a great episode, but they moved to the Ross and Rachel thing. Yeah, so we'll need to we'll need to kind of track that. Another thing we got to look at, but this one should be easier, um whether that is indeed true. Well, we had to finish this at 15 minutes past the hour, 17 minutes past the hour, but I think that gives us just a couple of minutes. I would love to know about your Gunther Central Park this week.
00:44:12
Speaker
Okay, so my Gunther Central Park for this week... Dang it, dang it, dang it. easy It's Monica.
00:44:23
Speaker
Okay. It's Monica. And because, i don't know, it just, that whole thing, it just, and her acting, and like, i so believe every... So maybe it's not her, it's Courtney Cox. But... normally like I'm here for the funny and I like it just unhinged and all of the things and she's so whenever she really gets going she's so funny about and being OCD and crazy and all that but like that realization And that, like, you believe it 100%. And it makes you feel.
00:45:05
Speaker
it does. And so, I mean, so that's mine. That's mine. I think that's great. I love the fact that I completely, I mean, I couldn't agree more with you. Usually your Gunther Central Park is either my number one or number two, but I was actually going between Joey and Chandler this week. Okay.
00:45:24
Speaker
I really like the development of Chandler throughout this, you know, as he gets to know this woman and and the final scene with Janice. I don't know if we even said Janice's name, but but, you know, seeing Janice and, oh, my God, the big kiss. What a moment. what more We can't skip over that. um But i I love Joey's storyline and I kind of love it in twofold. I love the fact that it's to me it's really funny just the way he pursues every guy who comes into the picture and gets rejected but he doesn't let to let it stop him.
00:46:01
Speaker
um But I also love, and like you, it's a semi-serious note, that in the 90s, and we see it in Friends, and we see they kind of make gay jokes.
00:46:11
Speaker
And this would have been a really easy thing for the characters and the writers, for like Ross to go, I'm not going to kiss you. I'm not gay. Like that would be a disgusting thing. But they don't. They don't approach it like that. Like going, throwing that out there.
00:46:25
Speaker
You know, i just, I love the way that the writers handled the storyline and I love the way that um that Matt LeBlanc handled the storyline. And I just thought it was hilariously done from start to finish. So for me, it's joy this week.
00:46:41
Speaker
Okay. Excellent. Excellent choice. All right. Well, let's see. We got our last thing and then we are out of here. We're at wedding this week. That's where most is six places. Okay. So how many little slices of wedding cake are you going to wolf down this week for this episode? Well, i am not going to be wolfing them down. No. I will i will eat them very daintily. Yes, Very daintily. But I want eight, I said big, eight pieces to daintily eat with a teeny tiny foot.
00:47:19
Speaker
teeny kit Kate got a teeny tiny spoon several years ago at a wedding of a former colleague of both of us. You may you may have been there. I don't remember. But that is forever referred to as the wedding spoon. And it's a teeny tiny spoon. And she loves this spoon as much as one can love a piece a piece of cutlery. And I get that. I totally get it. He loves it. I am also, and I might wolf down these pieces of cake because wedding cake is fantastic. And I'm currently watching what I'm eating and trying to lose a bit weight. So if I'm presented with eight pieces of cake, they're getting wolfed down. But I am also going with eight. I think this is a solid episode.
00:47:55
Speaker
Yes, I agree. I love it. Well, we will be back next week. We are currently working on some details to try and do a season two finale summary revisit of the whole episode with a guest. um So let's assume that's going to happen because that's in the work. And then after that, we will, of course, kick off season three, the one with the Princess Leia fantasy.
00:48:22
Speaker
Oh, right Nice! See, I haven't gotten my DVDs out, so I didn't know at that very first. But that's funny. That's i am in and I feel you and I may end up in a deep dive of some sort of Star Wars discussion. ah We would have to. We will have to, so I'm going to prep for that. um But yeah, on that note, any final thoughts before we get out of here? and No, but I am super excited about my friends themed vow renewal in 18 months. I am literally going to go and talk to Kate about that right now. But on that note, everybody listening, thank you so much indeed for listening to this week's episode of the Purple Door Podcast.