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Lost In The SCHWEP - Marty Supreme
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2026 is here and Marty Supreme is our first episode of the year! What did you think? Will Timmy take the Oscar? Let us know what you thought of the movie!
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Introduction: Hosts and Podcast Overview
00:00:16
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I got two words for you.
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All will be revealed in due time with our feelings on Marty Supreme for this episode. Can you count? Welcome back to Lost in the Frame.
00:00:32
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My name is Malik. My name is Alex. My name is Tachi. Do you guys get the reference of what I said? No. Yes. You do? Yeah. Okay, cool. All right, Tachi.
Rumors and Revelations: Is Timothee Chalamet SD Kid?
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So, Timothee Chalamet, on this whole ah interview run that he's been on leading up to the movie, there was the rumor that he might have been this rapper, SD Kid, some rapper from the UK. People are like, is this Timothee?
00:00:57
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And people started asking him on like radio shows. They're like like, is it you? like Tell us. Is it you, Timothee? Is it you? and he's like, I got two words for you guys. And he said this multiple times. He's like, all will be revealed in due time.
00:01:10
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I think even then he was referencing, um was it inside the and NBA or Charles Barkley's like two words? Yeah. Like he named two players like must see primetime TV. ah Happy 2026.
New Year's Special and Production Challenges
00:01:26
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Apologies that this episode is coming out a little bit late, but we're here now. We're here in the new year. It's my fault. It's okay. Let's just address the outfit in the room.
00:01:36
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Look, he was throwing up blood. I also forgot my mic.
00:01:41
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Tati blacked out for a week yeah straight. Nightmare situation. Couldn't wake up. Speaking of, I've got, i never get the Sunday scaries. Like before work on a Monday, people are always like, get the Sunday scaries.
00:01:53
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I don't, that that usually doesn't happen to me. Right. I'm experiencing it on a level that I don't think has ever been heard of. You have no idea, dude. Oh my God. I legally, I have been working for the last three weeks.
00:02:05
Speaker
Legally, I have been. course. I am just not ready. i don't want to. I'm pissed. You could take tomorrow off.
00:02:16
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I'm not going to take tomorrow off. There's just so much. Are you taking tomorrow off? I shouldn't, but we'll see. It'd be nice, but then it would just be Monday scaries and you're just delaying the inevitable.
00:02:30
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Yeah, but...
00:02:33
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Yeah, we'll see. Well, I'm happy to to be talking with you guys on this evening um before we get back into our our amazing corporate lives. they How are you guys doing? How was the rest of your year? How's your year going?
00:02:48
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hmm. So you're off to a fantastic start. Is it now? Oh, why is it not? If you don't mind telling us of a headache. Oh, that's it.
00:03:00
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There's been some other stuff, but I have a headache right now. Okay. Well, I hope it gets better. How about you, Mr. Blood Puke? It doesn't sound like it's going well for us.
00:03:11
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It wasn't going well, but now it is. Yeah. I think for the most part. Good. Can't complain so you get everything you wanted for Christmas? Yeah, I think so. No. Peace and love.
00:03:22
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Good New Year's resolutions coming up. You got peace and love. Did you not see what happened in Venezuela the other day? Todd is living in an alternate world. choosing to... I'm going to be willfully ignorant from now on, guys.
00:03:39
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Honestly, that could be the way to live life. That might be where we're headed.
Letterboxd Wrapped: A Year in Review
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um Before we start talking about Marty Supreme, we wanted to talk about our Letterboxd Wrapped a little bit to give you guys, the listeners, an insight into how our year went into our movie watching. Tachi, I'm going to throw it to you first real quick so you can go ahead and just say what happened and yeah your mistakes. Yeah.
00:04:02
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ah Because of Letterboxd's flaws, deep glaring flaws that really anyone could, you know, anyone can make this mistake, but.
00:04:15
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No, I didn't log like 90% of the movies I watched, so I don't really have a wrapped. But what it is what i i do just have the tidbit. I counted manually that I watched 130 movies in 2025.
00:04:30
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And I know no other statistic outside of that. What does it say that you're like your most watched actor and director is? Yeah, let's see. I have a pretty good guess what yours is because we did something for the pod in, what was it, May, June.
00:04:47
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And I think that really skewed what it would be. Mission Impossible? Yeah. Did that skew you guys'? is Yep. Not to yours? Not you? No.
00:04:58
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What does yours say? it log any of the Mission of Impossible rewatch? I don't know. It logged 20 films. I reviewed seven of them, and i only watched 37 hours. But my Westwatch actor was David Thewlis, who plays,
00:05:13
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um oh my God, Remus Lupin in Harry Potter. David Thewlis. Okay. Yeah. What about director director?
00:05:25
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um it doesn't even say
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needs more data. Yeah. It says my first watch and my last watch are super Mario bros movie and thunderbolts. that's That's crazy. I just can't be right.
00:05:44
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So that means maybe potentially your last logged movie was in the summer when we watched Thunderbolts. No, no. Cause he's a movie after that. Yeah. It got chainsaw man.
00:05:57
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Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. wonder if that means then. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know how it was tracking, but whatever. Mine's messed up. You understand it now though, right? So for next year, I guess, yeah, we got it. Yep. Okay. I think we got it. Okay.
00:06:09
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I look forward to it. Me too. Now you two can discuss your actual stats.
Marty Supreme: Initial Impressions and Marketing
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Um, mine, as far as like most watch like actors go, and this happened to me last year too. So I got to find a way to like curb this. Like you binge any series and it just, it takes everything over.
00:06:27
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Um, but I had 166 films watched for a total of 326 hours. I think we can pump those numbers up. Um, my first watched of the year was Saturday night.
00:06:41
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And my last watched was Hamnet. my most watched actor was Anthony Daniels, who has a number of CGI roles in star Wars.
00:06:52
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Hmm. So my top few actors most watched is Anthony Daniels, Mark Hamill, Tom Cruise, and Ving Rhames. So we got a Star Wars Mission Impossible thing going on here. That'd be a fun quartet.
00:07:08
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Yeah. um The rest of them are literally, yeah, they're all Star Wars Mission Impossible adjacent. got Simon Pegg, Carrie Fisher, James Earl Jones, Frank Oz.
00:07:21
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Wow, I just realized mine's wrong. What do you mean? So... me um but like Not like the raw numbers or anything, but... Films logged at 173. Films reviewed, 69. And then 318... Nice. 318 hours watched.
00:07:42
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ah My most watched actor, according to this, was Tom Cruise because of Mission Impossible. My most watched director was Christopher McQuarrie. However... Ving Rhames should be my most watched actor because he is in all the Mission Impossibles.
00:07:59
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And I watched Lilo and Stitch.
00:08:05
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He's your most watched. He's Bubbles. In the live action? No, in the animated. Is he really? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I did not know that. Yeah. There must have been something else you watched with Tom Cruise then.
00:08:18
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According to Letterboxd, no. The only ones I watched were the Mission Impossibles. you I think Letterboxd is racist. But, oh, I think there are one or two Mission and Impossible movies that don't have Bing Rames in it, though.
00:08:33
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According to actually his page, there' is all there he's in all of them. Oh, no, he is in all of them. I was thinking of number two, but he shows up at the very end for a beer or something like that.
00:08:46
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I thought he showed up at the very beginning. One of them he shows up like at the very, very end. Like he's not in it the entire movie. That's three, I think.
00:08:56
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Yeah. Because they stalk his wife. They stalk Michelle Monaghan. Remember? They do. Yeah. Okay. I think, yeah. Three. Three.
00:09:07
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um My most watched directors are Richard Linklater, J.J. Abrams, George Lucas, and Christopher McQuarrie, followed by Paul Thomas Anderson and Rian Johnson.
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How do you feel about that? I don't. I like Richard Linklater being up there, but again, it's just Star Wars and Mission Impossible.
00:09:30
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I've only had one year where the letterbox rap didn't make me look like a complete normie.
00:09:38
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Like my most watched theme is superheroes and action packed battles with villains. And that includes all of the Star Wars movies, all of the Mission Impossibles.
00:09:48
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We have Superman, Sonic the Hedgehog three,
Comparing Cinematic Styles: Safdie Brothers Insights
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and then Pirates of the Caribbean and Predator Badlands. my My most watched theme was humanity and the world around us. That's my second.
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And my most watched nano genre, powerful, unsettling fear.
00:10:09
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What is it?
00:10:12
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We need more information on that one. That one's insane. Um... right, we got Nosferatu, The Brutalist, Companion, Mickey 17, 28 years later, Together, Grizzly Man, The Long Walk, Bring Her Back, and Frankenstein were powerful, unsettling fear.
00:10:32
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Interesting. but Mickey 17 was not powerful, unsettling fear. Hmm. Listen to this one. Death stunts and formulaic. Who could have guessed? It's all the Mission Impossibles.
00:10:48
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I did really bad this year and watching what is in my watch list. I don't think I've ever paid attention to this specific stat, but this one says I added 39 movies to my watch list, but I only watched 14 of them.
00:11:00
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And it's a long watch list.
00:11:05
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What does yours say, Alex, on that one? ah
Character Spotlight: Odessa A'zion's Performance
00:11:10
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I don't think I have that one because I'm not a pro like you. It should be in the... Everyone gets this now with the end the year. No, it's not on there for me.
00:11:19
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If you go on the end of the year thing, is there an in-depth button? No. No. Because I'm broke. m You're just too bougie. like i I figured this was with... Everybody had this one for the wrap. I thought everybody got the Rolls Royce. I thought everyone wore Ralph Lauren. What?
00:11:43
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I mean, all in all, just to say. Good year for movies. Need to do something whenever I decide to binge an entire series to not have J.J. Abrams be my most watched director.
00:11:58
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My condolences. It's OK. Lensworth. Um, I'll be excited to talk about our top 10 of 2025 in a few weeks.
00:12:09
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Have you guys been catching up? Do you feel good where you're at? What's going on? I'm slowly catching up. I'm going at a snail's pace. I feel bad about it. Yeah. Yep.
00:12:19
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I've got a handful more that I could knock out in the next few weeks that I'm feeling pretty good on. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Maybe we're talking.
00:12:32
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Oh, what's up? What were you going to say? No, go ahead. I was gonna say, maybe we're talking about one of them today. I don't know. Maybe. Anything else on your guys' mind? or do you guys want to talk about Marty Supreme?
00:12:47
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Are we going to cover Smashing Machine first? Or just give the people what they want? how did yeah How did you want to do that? Did we want to like discuss Marty Supreme in tangent with the Smashing Machine as far as Safdie Brother off? Or did you like did you have full thoughts on the Smashing Machine that you wanted to to share with the class? It's been like months since I've seen it. i' Same. We can brush over Just tack it at the end. Yeah, I'm down to tack it. Okay.
00:13:12
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Okay. Let's do let's just get into Marty Supreme. OK, I had it ready to go with the synopsis, but T-Money, I think it is your turn unless you would like me to read it. no, no, no. I'll do it.
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Synopsis reads in 1950s, New York, Marty Mauser, a young man with a dream Nolan respects goes to hell and back in pursuit of greatness. Starring Timothy Chiawame, Gwyneth Paltrow, Odessa Azion, Kevin O'Leary, Abel Ferreira,
Kevin O'Leary's Vampiric Humor
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Fran Drescher, Tyler, the creator and more directed by Josh Safdie.
00:13:53
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What you guys think? I think that was great. I think that's an accurate description. I do think it's starring all those people. No notes. No notes. We do have thoughts about this movie.
00:14:06
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um we're gonna have so You guys going to have to help me because I saw this like two weeks ago at this point. I wanted to rewatch it before this episode, but I was like, I think I got it. But I think as we keep talking about it, it'll keep uncovering more.
00:14:19
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<unk> I'll keep uncovering more. I remember I know how I feel about it. I'll say that much, but let's get it to our letterbox love like loath and then we'll kick off our thoughts and feelings towards Marty Supreme ah touch. I think you've got today's five star.
00:14:35
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right. Five star review coming in from Cobb. Who is also a patron feel like I just got struck by lightning.
00:14:44
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Accurate. Yeah. Three-star review comes from Jill. Five-star marketing campaign for a three-star film. Wow.
00:14:56
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I thought that one was interesting. Another long legs. What? oh
00:15:03
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all right. ah Spoilers ahead for my one star review. ah Also probably spoilers for the rest of the episode, but um this comes from Kira.
00:15:17
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Kira said, i can't believe someone in the writer's room wrote in Timothee Chalamet getting spanked. I can't believe Timothee Chalamet agreed to be getting spanked.
00:15:28
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I can't believe I drove 40 minutes to watch Timothee Chalamet get spanked. I can't believe I sat next to a row of high school boys for three hours to watch Timothee Chalamet get spanked.
00:15:39
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I can't believe I watched Timothee Chalamet get spanked. So spoilers. If you haven't seen it, Timothee Chalamet gets spanked. He does does. I did. I did see that he refused the body double for the for that specific scene.
00:15:56
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But you know what? I respect it. Just for the glory. He wanted his ass to be out there in the world. He's like, if it's going to be anyone else's, like, it can't be anyone else's ass. It has to be mine. How many takes do you think that was?
00:16:10
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Hopefully not too many. I'll go 24. How you think? Do you think there was real impact?
00:16:20
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Maybe. Looked a little red at parts, but who's paying attention? Yeah. Alex is like, computer, hands. Is that a mole?
Marty Supreme's Subtle Twists and Themes
00:16:34
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um want to open this up with talking about the marketing campaign we were all there for it i think it was very very iconic it's aggressive jackets the interviews all of it he did something very similar with like a complete unknown last year and like taking the marketing to like this next level that like i don't think we've really seen at least in this generation and Like he's doing interviews with like TikTokers. He's on ESPN. He's like announcing like he's a football game like announcer. He's doing all of it. He stood on the top of the sphere. He was the first guy to do it.
00:17:15
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Stood on top of the sphere. That looked insane. You could tell he was scared. He looked too locked in. Yeah. He's like standing there and then zooming in. and He's like, whoa. Yeah.
00:17:27
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um
00:17:29
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um but how did you guys feel about the marketing campaign was it gimmicky were you there for it you love it hate it i was there for it i loved it um i loved how pissed off it made film twitter they were they were rooting for the movie to fail and it frankly thematically i think that worked yeah it fit i think it definitely reflects his uh his character But I loved it. I mean, it's really cool to see someone treat this like it's like a sport, you know? And maybe that's just like a guy-centric point of view, but I feel like we need artists...
00:18:11
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Not all of them. Like, that's not your stick. It's not your stick. But art is better when people strive purposely for greatness. I think. Like, I want this to be great. I'm trying to be great instead of like, you know.
00:18:26
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we just we just love making movies like, oh, shucks. Like, no, I want some want some edge, you know, not everybody has to do it. But if you got enough people doing it, it I think it's, you know iron sharpens iron and it's probably good for the industry as a whole.
00:18:40
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Plus, it you know, you get a big movie star and he does this and he gets butts in seats. That's good for the industry as a whole. don't really, I don't see how you can complain about it. Yeah.
00:18:50
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I think there needs to be maybe like a balance of both of those that are maybe a bit more outspoken than others while also having the more humble approach.
00:19:01
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I don't remember which award show it was, but I think he had just wrapped filming Marty Supreme when Timothee Chalamet went up to accept some award and he kind of gave that spiel that he was in the pursuit of greatness.
00:19:14
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And it seemed like a lot of people took it like, well, they were just like, they thought it was commendable. They respected it, me being one of those people. But there was the group of people that were like, this is pretentious. This is annoying.
00:19:27
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We don't like this, which I'm just, I find myself confused by. I'm like, what do we want? these people to do. Like he wasn't saying like, he didn't say anything outrageous. He's just like, this is what I want to do. This what I love doing.
00:19:39
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And I'm going to do everything my power to do it.
00:19:45
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It could just be that level of self-confidence is just intimidates people. Yeah. Could be. He's him. It's Timothy Chalamet. Um, I wanted one of these jackets really bad.
00:19:58
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I think they're coming out this month for general availability. There's a rumor floating around. Look, I am sheeple. I feel like the hype for the jackets was like at its peak beginning December.
00:20:12
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If they drop this month, I'm not sure if I'll get one now. I don't know why. but I feel like the hype kind of died down now that the movie came out. And I just felt like I could be honest with you guys. um Yeah, but what happens when the awards start coming in and it gets back and then they're all sold out?
00:20:34
Speaker
What he wins best actor and missed out? Oh, if he wins best actor? Damn. I still want the jacket. I just i just felt like i had to share some vulnerability. Yeah, yeah. that i'm like it the that it It shrunk a bit after seeing the movie. That's because you put it through the wash.
00:20:52
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but What? The jacket? Yeah.
00:20:58
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All right. How did you guys feel about this movie?
Emotional Analysis of Marty's Journey
00:21:02
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Walking out of the theater. Gut reaction.
00:21:08
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It was sick. I was fired up. I'm sorry. I was fired up. I can't lie. so It's just such a high energy movie. Like, I don't how you do movie.
00:21:21
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Even, even if you're not like, positively excited you're still excited in some way whether you're just seething in rage or you're just so stressed out you just want to leave or you're just having a great time ah yeah of all the criticisms I've seen I haven't seen that this was boring right yeah I think it's very similar with uncut gems where most people's reactions are the same but it depends on you as a person did you enjoy that
00:21:52
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it is It is hectic. It's chaotic. it's like It's frantic. And it can be like very anxiety-inducing, I feel, at times. And it's like, if you don't like that roller coaster, then I guess that's not for you. But for a lot of people, it seems like that's exactly what they loved about it.
00:22:11
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um I will say gut reactions for me walking out might be a little bit less than you two. You did ask for the reaction.
00:22:22
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immediately following maybe you know that doesn't reflect how we felt you don't know yeah and which is why i'm excited to talk to you guys about today like i want to obviously see like what we all think of it um but to kind of expand on like my like initial reaction like leading up to this movie i feel like the hype was just like out of control It's out of control. Yeah. Like, we always talk about, like, oh, let's manage our expectations. Let's do this. It's really hard to do that when Timothy's just in our face.
00:22:51
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Just shwap, shwap, shwap. Just constantly. We want the movie to be good. Right. And so expectations, I feel, were obviously through the roof. I liked the movie. I did not.
00:23:02
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I didn't not it. Here comes the hater. But. There is no but. I just, I feel... I just may not love it as much as everybody else's.
00:23:17
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But I still really like the movie. You need to rewatch it. You know what you're experiencing right now? What? You're experiencing one battle after another syndrome. That you had? Yeah.
00:23:27
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Because I rewatched and I got over it.
00:23:32
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That's true. okay That's true. And I think that's very possible, which is why I i wanted to rewatch it before before we recorded this episode and just didn't get to it. But I do plan on rewatching it soon.
00:23:45
Speaker
But we can just unpack everything. I think you hate men. Let's let's start there. you You hate white boys getting motioned. i hate white boys with sauce get them out of here so there is no motion supported on this podcast all right you guys want to touch on this and the smashing machine real quick before we get into the rest of the movie sure we can kind of just like we got a general feeling about marty supreme yeah how did you guys feel about the smashing machine this is the battle of the safeties benny and josh so
00:24:22
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I watched the smashing machine right before watching Mars Supreme. It was like just a couple days before. And i gotta say smashing machine has no sauce.
00:24:35
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It was so boring. It felt like a documentary, but it wasn't a documentary. and as much as I did like the rocks performance, uh,
00:24:48
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It was hard to get through, and I just wanted it to be over. Marty Supreme, however, i really enjoyed. I liked Smashing Machine. I won't go so far to say that it didn't have sauce, but it was missing like...
00:25:06
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the it factor to draw me in like other safety movies have. It just felt like a little bland, like a little flat. I thought it was shot very well. I liked the soundtrack a lot. I know I've touched on that before, but it just felt like it was missing that edge, that hook that like uncut gems or good time or Marty Supreme had.
00:25:30
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And it's like walking out. It was just kind of like, like Oh, that was a movie. That was, that was solid. Like I'd maybe, I think I recommend someone to watch it, but I'm not sure I'd ever rewatch it.
00:25:44
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I do think, Oh no, go ahead. I do think it's interesting seeing now, now having seen Marty Supreme and like comparing this to like good time and uncut gems and really being able to see like both brothers visions at play in both of those movies and seeing like how they work as separate entities. Yeah.
00:26:04
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um I'd love for them to make another movie together. I think both are kind of missing a little something that maybe the other could bring to the table. um But I'm totally aligned with you guys on the Smashing Machine. It really was missing like that it factor. um The Rock's performance I think is excellent.
00:26:20
Speaker
Right. But that's about like the greatest thing I could say about it. There were, I thought, I thought it was shot very well. I'm not mistaken, Alex, you did say that this was a documentary. There was a documentary on Mark. There was a dark, and it was um yeah, it's called a Smashing Machine. Yeah. frank What I've heard is from people who've seen it is it's like a lot of the shots are very similar. but Which is like, me yeah, but and like I feel like that's very disappointing. Like at this point now I want to see another Benny Safdie movie, maybe like original IP closer to a Marty Supreme.
00:26:53
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Yeah. I almost feel like the Smashing Machine was like an anti Safdie movie. Yeah. Like the way like the characters art goes is just way it ends is it doesn't end like and like all the other ones. Like it starts off similarly, but the end of it is more like subdued and really goes in the opposite direction of where like a Marty Supreme went or a good time went.
00:27:18
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even throughout the entire movie, I feel like comparatively Smashing Machine is very quiet. It's very quiet. It's very quiet. It's very personal. Whereas like everything else is the world is spinning like at a billion miles an hour, which like on paper, I'm like, I would be for that. If someone was like, Hey, new safety movie, but quiet, be like, cool. Sign me up.
00:27:42
Speaker
But yeah, I'm with you with the smash machine where i'm just like, it was just okay. Okay. I think my biggest complaint that can be, i guess, identified is just half the movie took place in Japan and we saw nothing Japanese about this movie except yeah some of the people.
00:28:05
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And that makes me really sad because I don't know, at least in Marty Supreme, even if they didn't film in Japan, in some ways it kind of felt like we were there.
00:28:16
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Like we kind of, were transported to a new place. But with the Smashing Machine being so predominantly in Japan, just didn't feel any of that. I didn't feel part of where the rock was or sorry, you know, you what mean? You know what I mean? Mark Kerr.
00:28:35
Speaker
I 100% agree with you. I think that's a very good point. It felt very half baked. Like if that's our setting, like let us live in it. Yeah. But it just felt like this little location, don't worry about anything else. i There wasn't enough fighting either.
00:28:49
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A lot more fighting. And it seems there's a way to do that because with Marty Supreme, not a lot of ping pong. Right. At the end of the day. I'll be honest, I wanted more
Final Ratings and Reflections on Marty Supreme
00:29:01
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ping pong. I'm fine with the amount of ping pong we got, but me too I like ping pong personally. I wanted a little more ping pong. wanted actually a little more. Actually, it's called table tennis.
00:29:11
Speaker
I like table tennis. Ping pong is a lot funner to say than table tennis. It's table tennis. Okay. just like you like it better than taking like You don't take it seriously. I take it seriously. Or pool is better than billiards. And what's his billiards? Yeah. Old right. Eight ball.
00:29:27
Speaker
I'll get you an eight ball. um Whoa. All right. Let's talk about drugs. Let's talk about Timothy. Yep. Dude's great. So good. I don't know what to say that like anyone else has not said already.
00:29:41
Speaker
Very convincing character. Super convincing. That bit on the phone was crazy. Yes. With Gwyneth Paltrow. Yes, that was actually insane.
00:29:52
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That's one of my, that's one of my favorite scenes. Like whenever he, we see his little clip during the Oscars. Yeah. I hope it's that scene. I love the bit with the apple. Yeah.
00:30:03
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She comes flying in. Yeah. Nukes the bull. Yeah. I believe him when he says he's on the journey to pursue greatness. I think he's going to be there if he's not there already. He's there. He he is like, I think, our Jen's movie star.
00:30:19
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The crazy part is i we can say he's there now. I think 10 years from now, we're to be like, now he's here. Is he like our Leo? Maybe.
00:30:30
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He could be our Leo. so i mean you going Hopefully not in the way that like he doesn't get an Oscar until he's like 50-something. Yeah. But... Maybe. young girls.
00:30:41
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I mean, him and Kylie are like the same age, right? Yeah, they're competing for the same market. Yeah. Bro, he just turned 30 and I'm like, how am I older than you? This is upsetting. How do you think I feel? He's just a little bit older than me and I'm going to fail I know.
00:30:58
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That's how it felt like 20s to late 20s. It was just like, oh man, they're just a little older than me. Oh man, they're just a little older than me. I'm just a little older than them. Now I'm just a little older.
00:31:10
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Be like that. um What do you guys want to say about Timothy?
00:31:15
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I mean, it's hard to detract or find any new slant. I thought he was super convincing. he just exuded griminess.
00:31:26
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It's little weasel. Yeah. His characters, is he he just wants it more and you feel it through the screen. It's crazy. I don't think going into this,
00:31:40
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That's not really what I was expecting for the character from to be as like slimy and greasy and like just a piece of shit. Yeah, I just really really wasn't expecting that. And I rewatched one of the trailers and I'm like, you don't really get that from the trailers either.
00:31:54
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You just get that there's this kid who's a who wants to be great, a great ping pong player. That's it. So... The shitty person route, I really, in hindsight, obviously, that they were they were going to do that. Look at all their other movies.
00:32:06
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But he pulls it off very well. I was like, 10 minutes into it, was just like, oh. was like, oh, fuck this guy. And then for the entire two and a half hours, I was just like, it just it's just worse and worse and worse. I yeah keep seeing people compare this to like,
00:32:21
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after hours in the sense that it's just like shenanigan after shenanigan getting into it and i can kind of see that comparison but i mean yeah he's stellar i can't imagine anybody else in this role and have this movie be as good as it is if it was anybody else but timothy i agree
00:32:44
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odessa a zion a zion a zion do you know whose daughter she is i do know whose daughter she is i don't why don't you why don't you tell the listeners that don't know who is she she is is it pamela hadlin's daughter and pamela hadlin plays bobby hill in king of the hill nepo baby Dad, I'm a little bit worried about being a slut.
00:33:15
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Dad, my friend Marty's in trouble.
00:33:20
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That opening shot, insane. What was that? The sperm racing. The sperm racing to the Marty Supreme ping pong ball.
00:33:31
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Very reminiscent of the beginning of Uncut Gems. A lot of similarities here with Good Time and Uncut Gems, but Uncut Gems opens with the ah prostate exam.
00:33:43
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The camera threw Adam Sandler's butt. it was That's actually a colonoscopy. I don't know what kind of prostate exams you're getting, Colonoscopy. i hear You need to make some phone calls quick.
00:34:00
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Might need a new doctor. i might. um Anyway.
00:34:10
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I watched this movie with my with Cam, my mom, and my youngest brother. And immediately we saw the sperm, and I'm sitting right next to my brother. He's like 15, and I was just like, all right. don't know. This boy needs to be seeing this.
00:34:23
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i I watched this with my mom, dad, and little sister.
00:34:30
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Who's in her 20s, so. What did the fam think, Alex? Did they like it? They all liked it. Yeah. They all liked it, yeah. and It ranged from liked to loved.
00:34:42
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No one disliked it. No one even thought it was like, oh, that was solid. It was all like, we squarely liked this movie. I taught you, was this a family affair for you as well? ah No, just me and Julie.
00:34:54
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Just you and Julie? Yep. You guys are a family. You're married. That's true. It's a family affair. That is very true. point yeah and so sorry My question was like large family. like like I know people were like dragging their aunts and uncles to this over Christmas.
00:35:11
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I know a bunch of people who took their whole family to this. Yeah. Would love to see what those conversations are like after, like in the car. I got dropped off by my sister though. So she was involved.
00:35:22
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That counts. Felt like a little kid. That definitely counts. um What else does stand out in this movie for you guys? We've hit on Timothy. There's a lot more to uncover here. We didn't even touch on Odessa. We just said she was touching her mom. Okay. Okay. Yeah. we'll We'll get to her and then and then everything else. Um,
00:35:41
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she's fantastic yeah she's great i really want to see a supporting actress nomination like i think she does exactly what her character like needs to do like in this the only thing i know her from is from the hbo show i love l la and this is a very different role for her so even though i haven't seen her in much like i don't have an a lot to base it off of but she has a line in this That like might be one of my favorites.
00:36:07
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I think it's after the shootout. um And they get the money. And she says, now you can go on your trip. But she is shot. I think she got shot. Or there's blood on her or something. Yeah, she got shot. There's so much turmoil happening. And in the midst of that, she just wants him to be happy. And it's just this control that he has over her.
00:36:28
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And it's so sad. and He didn't have the money. Yeah, and the money wasn't even there. But it was just... was porn. Yeah. Yeah. But that was that's just one of my favorite like line reads of the year.
00:36:42
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So I, I thought she was excellent in this movie. Really, really enjoyed a performance. I thought she was very good as well. She, yeah, I, I hadn't seen her in anything to be honest, but I was impressed.
00:36:55
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Um, nothing like Bobby Hill. There was no Bobby Hill in this performance. Um, Which, you know, given Nepo babies, like you're surprised that they don't just act like their parents acted. So, you know, I was pretty surprised on that. It's just very convincing. i I'm at the point right now where I kind of need to go hear her talk normally because like if I just imagine like an interview with her, I'm just imagining like how I did Mikey Madison after I watched Nora.
00:37:26
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I'm just imagining them as this squeaky New York New York. Like, Marty. She has a very interesting voice. It's kind of um raspy.
00:37:39
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Well, I got that much, but like, I mean, the accent. I think it's kind of there. a little bit. Is she from New York? I don't know. I'm not the guy to ask.
00:37:51
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I don't know her biography. But you're the host. We're all the hosts. And we all have computers.
00:38:03
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you're right Are you looking it up now? I am.
00:38:09
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She was born in Sacramento. Okay, that's not New York. Okay, so she's from L.A., spent part of her childhood in Boston and Newfarn, Germany.
00:38:22
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Cool. Cool. Cool. Her paternal grandfather was German filmmaker Percy Adlon. So she's really second-gen Nepo well
00:38:36
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I haven't seen any of this guy's movies, to be honest.
00:38:41
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Not a very efficient Nepo baby.
00:38:45
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He competed at Cannes. Good for him. um I wish we had more of the Marty Supreme Ball. Yeah, what was up with that?
00:38:57
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This was one of my parents' complaints, and I have a rebuttal to it. Okay. The Marty Supreme Ball was a red herring. It was just another one of Marty's spews of BS. It is. Because at the end, when he's playing Endo, they're all wearing white. They're all wearing white. And it's a white ball. Wait, is this your rebuttal for your parents' complaint? Or is this your parents' complaint? This was this is my parents' complaint. this was my rebuttal. Okay, I agree with your rebuttal.
00:39:28
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Like, I think we were just, we bit the red herring too much. Yeah. Makes sense. That there's going to be more with this ball. And it's just another Marty bit, which honestly it is great. It's thematically crazy. like Yeah. This was such a well thought out, like marketing campaign. I just, I want more of the ball because one, it was everywhere, but yeah, you watch the movie and you're just like, Oh fuck. Yeah. All right. Sure.
00:39:52
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Yeah. I was kind of so sad when they all got dumped out Yeah. on But you bought into Marty's BS. I did. You guys bought into I'm a sucker.
00:40:03
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You're a sucker. You would have gotten hustled. Yeah, probably. At the bowling alley. I would have. That's a standout scene for me. That's such a good scene. The bowling alley. Yeah, the bowling alley scene.
00:40:17
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How do you feel about Tyler, the creator in this? Oh, he was awesome. He was so funny. Yeah, he was great. He had the whole theater rolling.
00:40:25
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I'm also, yeah i just love Tyler, so. Seems like a good guy. Yeah. Used to scare me. He still scares me. i've been a fan I've been a fan of his for a while. Like, i don't know if you guys ever listen to like, Odd Future, but, like, that's when I and that's when i got into the Tyler and the gang, but.
00:40:42
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I still think Wolf is his best album. I'll agree with you. I'll agree with you. I got in right when Flower Boy dropped. And then... Oh, you so you weren't there for the transfer... Like, Flower Boy was like, the transformation. I was like, who is this dude? I feel like it's like a perfect album. from tibe I mean, that dude was rapping about, like, burning babies in churches. That is scary. listen to radicals and then listen to flower boy and be like compare the two yeah um oh what was i gonna say any the other standout scenes from you guys i've got i've got a couple but i'll shut up for a second if you guys want to shout any just across the whole movie yeah i loved the ping pong ones they were so electric yeah me too every scene with ping pong was awesome shot super well um
00:41:31
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I actually did like his chemistry with Gwyneth. I think it worked. I don't know if anyone's saying the contrary, but... Anthony Fantano, the internet's busiest music nerd, says you could remove Gwyneth from the movie and nothing would change. What?
00:41:47
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Yeah, that's what I said. That's just not true. That's not how movies work. Dude.
00:41:55
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Doesn't he review music? Yeah. All right, let's give him some grace. Maybe he's trying to break into new barriers. Dude, stay on your turf, you bum. You're lost in the frame country. How dare you?
00:42:09
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I mean, I feel like the chemistry just worked with like everybody. Everybody. i mean, Enzo was man of few words. Endo. Maybe Endo. He wasn't even like an actor. He's just a guy.
00:42:21
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they do that yeah it's after brothers do that they just get non-actors the uh the the friend with the marty supreme balls was a non-actor too i saw that as well and then kevin o'leary oh let's talk about kevin o'leary let's He's a vampire. I think we just glossed over that.
00:42:42
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He said that. And like, I was that mean that like when you sit up in your seat, I was like, what are we talking about? i like, obviously it's not true, but a part of was just like, is he telling the truth?
00:42:57
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felt real it felt so real it felt like the robert california bit it did what does he call himself the lizard lizard king i'm the fucking lizard king that's literally what it was penis debutante
00:43:16
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it's such a banger line that like i'm probably going to use it this year like unironically you should at work Some SDR comes up to me they're like, hey, like, did you see that lead I passed over? And I'm like, listen here, I was born 1601. I'm a fucking vampire. okay
00:43:37
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ah Kevin O'Leary, really good, plays a sleazy guy. he just plays himself, but he has a really convincing job. He does. Yeah. um I saw some shout outs for, I don't remember his name, but he went, he was like one of like the first viral videos in like the early, like 2010s. The man with the golden voice. The man with the golden voice.
00:43:57
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He was homeless. He was homeless. Well, that's, that's how he got, uh, that's how he went viral. And then went on Ellen. And then I'm not sure what happened to him after that, but he popped up in here and I was like, Oh, that's a blast from like 2010.
00:44:13
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was his name? Are you looking up his name? Ted Williams. Ted Williams, the man with the golden voice. Tachi, do you remember this? I don't. I don't recall. don't? It was like, I don't know what year it was. that We'll just call it 2008. 2011. 2011. He was homeless, and I don't know how someone found this out, but heat someone was recording him. They're like, oh, do the do the thing.
00:44:33
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And he just had like an announcer voice, like a talk show radio, just a golden voice. And he went viral, and then he like ended up on Ellen and all these other talk shows, and they got him off the streets, and he cleaned up. and Wow.
00:44:48
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Yeah, so on and so forth. I don't know what happened to him since going viral, but I obviously hadn't heard of him. And he popped up in this. He was the ah front desk person at the, was it the bowling alley? The ping pong hall? Yeah, the ping pong hall. Okay.
00:45:06
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Good for him. Which, by the way, that ping pong hall. It's like you guys know this movie was like loosely, loosely based on like a true story, right? I just saw that like before we started recording. Had no idea.
00:45:19
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The ping pong hall was a real place. Okay. I mean, I've been to one. And it was like actually called that like, you know. The ping pong hall. Yeah, whatever was, like Dons or whatever. There was Dons on Broadway or whatever it was called. My ping pong hall were the halls of VMware back in the day.
00:45:38
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Is it the first time I've ever said where you worked? Oh my God, it might be. It's Dox the Sleep again. You always say the place where we work. I'm going to bleep it.
00:45:53
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I'm bleeping it. um Yeah. Whenever I started working there, all of the BDRs like played ping pong and there were like bracket style competitions that would happen. And I was like, oh man, i want to play. it And I had never really played ping pong.
00:46:07
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So I learned my, my friend, Michael, he taught me, he was the best one on the floor. He taught me his ways and I got decent guys. When I saw a ping pong Timothy Chalamet movie coming out, I was like, this is made for us. we We kind of tried to get it going again, but it never stuck.
00:46:25
Speaker
Unfortunately. That's unfortunate. I'd love to make ah an illegal ping pong haul. Dude. What other scenes? Gambling. Bathtub scene. Oh, my God.
00:46:37
Speaker
That was insane. Nuts. What happened? I know what happened. But like, come on. i felt so bad for the dog.
00:46:47
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i was terrible. Did you leave the theater and write a review? i did not. I kept on watching. I soldiered through. Everything with the dog was just brutal. Dude, the scenery is running after the taxi.
00:47:01
Speaker
Yeah. It broke my heart. was so sad. left the theater and wrote a review. ha ha ha ha.
00:47:13
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You know who I hated in this movie? Who? The uncle.
00:47:18
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Like the shoe store manager uncle. Oh. Genuinely like he was in the wrong. Yeah. He was actually in the wrong. If he owes him the money, give him the money. money Yeah.
00:47:32
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Give me my money. I mean, I'm glad that we got the the shootout, not the shootout scene, but the stick him up scene where he's robbing the money from his own workplace. That was funny. But yeah, I'm with you.
00:47:45
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Fuck that uncle. That's not what family does.
00:47:51
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Family. yeah what about i mean I was going to shout out one more person, the the mob guy. Enzo. Was that his name? Enzo? No.
00:48:02
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You're thinking of Endo, the Japanese guy. Oh. The mob... I don't know what the mob guy was, but he played by Abel Ferrara, director. Yes. Abel Ferrara. Okay.
00:48:13
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Directed King New York with ah Christopher Walken. great That's crazy. Great movie. Really great performance in this. m I wasn't believable. I was not expecting the the the whole mob tie in, but that was that was pretty fun that we got to see the real deal mob activity.
00:48:30
Speaker
the The absolute craziest casting, though, by far. Why?
00:48:41
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By far. the The farmer. Who is the farmer? Pendulet. And Gillette. The guy from Penn and Teller. Oh my God. magician.
00:48:56
Speaker
He was the farmer? Really? Yes. Oh, I'm looking this up now. And Gillette.
00:49:04
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Wow. The best a man can get.
00:49:10
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Oh, wow. Actually, this is nuts. That's crazy. And Gillette. Wow. You know the ah the the ping pong administration guy, the Indian dude? Yeah. Sethi? Yes.
00:49:28
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He's played by a travel novelist that I've read some of, Pico Iyer. So there's another one for you, another feather in the cap of non-actors playing people. And he was... Really annoying, even though he was technically correct. Yeah. I was on Marty's side. was like, just fucking let him play, man. Come on.
00:49:45
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This guy doesn't know anything about the grind. but I mean, it's... I okay my next question is how do you guys feel about just Marty's overall journey through the movie and what's like once we get to the ending like outside of exhausting out the yeah outside of exhausting like do you think do you think he had what was coming to him did he not deserve to play in the finals like he definitely didn't deserve to play yeah you're rooting for him did you want him to play in the finals I yeah wanted him to play it's re i thought it was really interesting to see kind of like how things ended up shaking out with him wanting to play the real game with endo in japan like he didn't get to go to the finals i was like okay well like like now what yeah i think in 2025 he plays for sure
00:50:33
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um Well, like 2025, they launch an investigation and that takes seven months and then the ruling comes down, but then he sues and then it gets delayed because the courts blocked it and then it goes through arbitration and then he deletes messages from his phone and then Robert Cadell suspends him for four games and then.
00:50:56
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sounded very real. What was that? Tom Brady. Oh, like this is based on somebody. And how do you... i don't think I don't think the ending is up for interpretation. I've seen a lot of talk on Twitter that people are interpreting interpreting his feelings in the end very differently, but I thought it was pretty straightforward, but I wanted to see what you guys' is opinion... i don't think this is a movie that hides what it is. Same.
00:51:27
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Like, it very much is like... It is what it is. And I think it's sick, but it's not like a deeper, like you're all like, how can you interpret this? Like, no, I, I interpreted the end as what we kind of so thought. it Like he, there was some genuine, like, you know, there was genuine love there.
00:51:51
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get shipped in values.
00:51:55
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Yeah. I mean, that's what they say happens when that happens. It's like, it's the one moment that changes everything. Yeah. I kind of take it as both. So I like, I see people like arguing like online, just trying to flip things a certain way or, or what have you, or kind of like a YouTube Marty Supreme ending explain the type of thing. But like, I do think it's pretty straightforward.
00:52:19
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For me, I feel like it's a complicated like human emotion like mixture of like both like love, like the immediate love for seeing his child, and then also... What's the word I'm looking for? i don't know. I feel like there is a sadness to it.
00:52:37
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And I only say that because of the song that starts playing. Oh my god, I'm so stupid. Why am I forgetting the there Everybody Wants to Rule the World. Yeah, I mean, like the like the lyrics for that entire song is just... like It's not a happy song.
00:52:54
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It's like, this is your life. There's no turning back. Welcome to your life. Yeah, like you kind of just have to... like play with the cards that are dealt to you. Things may not always go like the way that you want it to, but like, this is what it is. And so I feel like the tears that we see are love that he feels and like that genuine change. But think there's also the, like a hint of his future of like looking back and always thinking like, Oh, like what if, but it is there. What if, because
00:53:25
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I mean, spoiler, he beats Endo. He does it. He is the top of the world in his mind. He proved everybody that he was the best in a real game. And
00:53:38
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I think the kid is the first thing that's ever been like real, like tangible. Like a real thing instead of just this arbitrary, I'm the best at ping pong table tennis.
00:53:51
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Do you think it's enough for him? Cause I don't think he he didn't prove it to the world. He proved it to that room and he proved it to himself. Do you think that's enough for him? or do you think that he, the regret that he would have in the future would be because he didn't end up on the Wheaties box. He didn't get to show the world. He just showed a few hundred people in that room and himself.
00:54:14
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I think it was enough that when he has a kid, then it's not lost. Hmm.
00:54:21
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If I had to just project a future based on likely outcomes, And I'm thinking future Marty, I think nothing will probably ever be enough to like match the highs that he feels in in the story that we watch.
00:54:41
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Like i feel I feel like he's always going to be chasing the high once the high from like holding his baby for the first time blows over and and seeing it for the first time blows over. Like I had his mid now.
00:54:55
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My baby's chopped and washed. You know what i mean though? Like, like, know knowledge he wears off. He's just like, yeah. Gonna get back into doing shady things. I think he gets drafted to Korea. Oh. Wow.
00:55:11
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That's likely. He's back. He might be able to talk himself out of that. Dude's a smooth talker. Dude, he was so good. He was so good. I thought the writing in this was fantastic. The dialogue was so good. Great prosthetics, giving him the acne. Very subtle, but very... Unibrow.
00:55:29
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Yeah, the unibrow, all of it. The bit in the ah the theater with the actors and director. Who is this guy?
00:55:40
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Yes. Very good scene. He's just like good he' like, you're stabbing. What is He's like, you're you're holding the knife like a child. yeah yeah I'd hold it like. He does that throw. Yeah.
00:55:51
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Who is this guy? the I think. i wish I wish I had that kind of motion. I'm going be real. I know Marty's not a good guy, but like if we're all moving that way, like it'd be over.
00:56:05
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We can't all move that way. i think the world would be. No, us three. Oh, just us three. Yeah. Maybe our listeners too. you You guys can be moving that way. We all have motion and the site. New new thing unlocked motion.
00:56:20
Speaker
In addition to site. Yeah. This new season, we master motion. Yeah. um I think rightfully so. Obviously, there's a lot of comparisons with Uncut Gems.
00:56:35
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I want to do a quick like Sandler versus Chalamet face-off. Quick question. Who do you prefer?
00:56:46
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I prefer Timmy, but what Adam did was really special. I liked Marty more, but Adam Sandler was just so obnoxious.
00:56:57
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Like, it's so hard. It's so hard to compare the two performances because they're both stellar. Timmy's more likable. Adam Sandler's really aggravating, but he's supposed to be.
00:57:08
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But the scene that this is how I win speech. KG, I don't think you're going to get 18 points. they don't think you're going to five rebounds. The slow pushing and him all right, well, let's fucking bet on this. I was just like.
00:57:25
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you're like no no I literally remember being in the theater when that happened and I was like dude literally like stop I sat in my car for like 10 minutes after Uncle Jim's and I was just like where i what happened i would do i would I would put sandler over
00:57:56
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charlemag But i think just because it was... Do you think that's only because it was more surprising out of Sandler? I think so. I think it's more surprising out of him. It's different. yeah like Timothy and Marty share similarities in their pursuit of greatness. Obviously, I think a lot of the marketing and themes of the movie align to his life, but in a more um aggressive way in the movie versus him in real life. I'm hoping he's not a douchebag and in real life, but...
00:58:29
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that alignment versus sandler completely just changing i'm like who is this guy like when i'm watching uncut gems and so i was just like captivated by that performance just a bit more so i'd put i'd put sandler over over shallamy but both great performances okay i think it's obvious we had to how did i just talk about the two um anything you guys don't like from this anything that doesn't work I don't think there's anything that like didn't work, didn't work.
00:59:00
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A complaint my parents and sister had was the music was anachronistic. They wished it was more like 50s music instead of 80s. 80s synth.
00:59:11
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Yeah. Makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. They went the way of their other movies. I don't know if they share the same composer. That'd be something great to figure out. um But I could agree with them on that one.
00:59:24
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um People are loving the soundtrack and I'm just like, I thought it was fine. It felt kind of in the way for me. um So I would have to agree.
00:59:36
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Yeah, it's it's the same guy. Okay. Daniel LaPation. Yeah.
00:59:45
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yeah It worked a lot more for me, the synth vibe in Uncut Gems. Versus this. I actually thought the synth vibe ripped. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. In this one.
00:59:58
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But I think the Uncut Gems soundtrack is probably a little better, like, musically. And it has The Weeknd. yeah It does have The Weeknd. That's a crazy one. I love The Weeknd. He's so good. What's The Weeknd?
01:00:19
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Perfect movie. That's fighting words for some people. My dad hates uncut gems. I get it. If people hate it, that's not one that I'm going to argue for. I'll be like, yeah, for sure.
01:00:31
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But it rips. Yeah, it does. It gets me so amped up to go to the casino. That's a good pregame casino movie. I didn't i even think of it like that. oh If I ever find the one, my bachelor party where we're doing the casino, we're all watching. We can just go to the casino like normally.
01:00:52
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Yeah, but imagine like a rolling deep bachelor party 20 guys into the casino. That would be crazy. After all watching Uncut Gems. Really drunk. That could just be a normal Saturday. Let's make it happen. There is not a casino near Austin, Texas. normal Saturday in Vegas. The flights are cheap. They're like 79 bucks. Round trip.
01:01:13
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Not round trip. One way for sure. Vegas could work. Lake Charles. Lake Charles. Louisiana. Louisiana. I don't think gambling and then think Lake Charles. Yeah, but it's but it's what's close. You know, Windstar, go to Oklahoma.
01:01:29
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o Tornado Alley, no thanks. Buddy, I got news for where you live. There are tornadoes here. There was one close to me a few years ago.
01:01:41
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Yeah, the Round Rock one that picked up the truck. Yeah, and the Wells Fargo. Yeah. I lived right there. My apartment was right there. Oh, it destroyed that Panda Express. Yeah. I remember that Did you see it? I didn't see it. So like the way that my window was facing, it was the opposite way.
01:01:58
Speaker
that's so mean. But it was a mile and a half away. And i was on the fourth floor and I was like, i don't know what to do. I know I shouldn't be up here. I just stayed. I was okay. I'm okay, guys. Don't worry.
01:02:10
Speaker
I don't think you're okay. Maybe not. um For things that don't work for me, I don't know. i can't say anything specific. More ping pong. More ping pong.
01:02:22
Speaker
But, I mean, it's okay that there's... I think it's okay there's not more ping pong, but I would like more ping pong. But I'm not pissed that there's not. i don't it's It's a complicated emotion. um I don't know, guys. I really wanted to walk out like loving this movie.
01:02:37
Speaker
And I just liked it. What if he'd lost a little bit more? Do you think that would have been enough for you? Well, I don't know. There's really not a lot of ping pong.
01:02:52
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was more No, like just in general. But i see, not to argue immediately, but I think he loses a lot. i But a lot of the consequences are felt by those around him, not really him. Right.
01:03:07
Speaker
Because he he fails to accomplish so much at the cost of others. Right. so he and A normal person would have stopped after like one time. Right.
01:03:21
Speaker
Yeah. So I guess my point is is he himself is not punished enough for how destructive he is.
01:03:31
Speaker
Hmm. I will say like as we've talked through it I'm like yeah like I'm just finding myself like nodding a lot I'm just like that rips that rips that rips and I knew and I knew all that like while I'm watching it but it was just like that I'm just thinking like the gut feeling after i was just like I liked it but i wasn't like i didn't put on danger zone in my car and start driving down the freeway like i did with maverick um so cool and i think it's one battle syndrome i think it's one battle syndrome i feel like it might be i really think a rewatch would be helpful because i mean there's really not glaring problems or negativity from my end it's i don't know it's weird
01:04:16
Speaker
It could just be a movie that you know is good, but you just don't resonate with for whatever reason. That I feel like that might be the hardest. Yeah, that could, that might be like one of the hardest like feelings to process. I think when it comes to movies when I'm like, this is a good movie, but it's just like, it just doesn't resonate. It's hard to like articulate those feelings.
01:04:41
Speaker
Right. But I'm trying. We're all trying. I think i want to start journaling, actually. Yeah. And then log them. Okay.
01:04:53
Speaker
But like actually getting good at getting my thoughts and feelings out, I think will also do be a benefit to me on this podcast. Yeah. That's actually one of my New Year's resolutions is to write more like that. oh If I started to journal like my thoughts and feelings, I would be locked up.
01:05:11
Speaker
No one's going to find it and lock you up. Someone would find it. Unless you're sharing them. I'd be in the psych ward. um What else do you guys want to shout out from this movie?
01:05:26
Speaker
Things that don't, doesn't work for you does work. feel like we've said a lot.
01:05:35
Speaker
Yeah. um There wasn't really a singular performance I didn't like. Supporting cast is great. I thought it was filmed um really well.
01:05:48
Speaker
I guess if had some great needle drops. Yeah. If I had to make another complaint, I guess would be a somewhat similar to Smashing Machine where the climax of the movie is set in Japan, but we don't really good get a ah good, I guess, setting that makes it clear they're in Japan.
01:06:10
Speaker
Leading up to Japan, we talked about in the beginning, um the ass spanking scene. In the context of everything, great scene. Like funny, yes, but also so sad.
01:06:23
Speaker
Yeah. He's a glutton for punishment. Yeah. I'll do whatever it takes, including getting humiliated. Dream big. By vampires.
01:06:37
Speaker
Oh, to be spanked by vampires. Twilight moment. Yeah, I'm going to say I had the same feelings in Twilight.
01:06:47
Speaker
um Alex, did you anything from you?
01:06:52
Speaker
Nope. You want to rate it? I'm ready to rate it. I want to go last. I think you should go first. That's nuts.
01:07:03
Speaker
Okay. I'll start off. ah Okay. All right. Fine. I'm going to give it a ah nine out of ten. So four and a half out of five. That's You didn't even go that high initially with one battle. But now you are. So it's okay.
01:07:19
Speaker
This might be my one battle. I'm going to give it four and a half as well. That's how I was feeling immediately after. And that's I think that's how I still feel. It was pretty great.
01:07:33
Speaker
I'm going to go with my original rating, and then I will rewatch it and report back. Okay. But this this was what I was thinking 48 hours after I watched Marty Supreme in my head. So that's what I'm going to give.
01:07:50
Speaker
I'm going to give this a three and a half. No way. get I liked it. It's the... I didn't even go that low with one battle. you had Three and a half is still good.
01:08:03
Speaker
That's a seven out of ten. It means rewatchable, right? It like means right's rewatchable. It means it can jump up at least one point to a four and a half. Possible.
01:08:18
Speaker
Or stay the same. Or go lower. Anything is possible.
01:08:24
Speaker
Wow. Least helpful breakdown. this biggest deviation yet? It might be. It's for me right now. It's a, it's a like, it didn't love it. Like, I have to compare it to to good time and uncut gems and even smashing machine. Like I love good time.
01:08:40
Speaker
I loved uncut gems. And I remember how I felt after both of those movies. And I'm like, they're doing this again. It's the same formula, which is fine. But i didn't feel the same walking out of the theater as I did with those movies.
01:08:55
Speaker
Maybe because you've never chased greatness. Brother, I'm a ping pong champ like you wouldn't understand. Okay. I challenge you. I was born in 1601. All right. I'm a fucking vampire.
01:09:09
Speaker
I've been playing longer than you've been alive. Okay. I was i was in JV tennis, buddy. Get ready for some backhands. Give me a wooden stake through the heart. I got to see pictures a lot. i know yeah that you You smell that? It's garlic.
01:09:28
Speaker
That's where I stand today. But I'll let you guys know. Now you're going to. but you going to hate Bone Temple next? I hope not. did that I think that might be the biggest deviation of us. And that's how we're starting off 2026. The Bone Temple is soon, guys.
01:09:47
Speaker
The Bone Temple is so soon. We'll talk about it after we're done recording for our schedule for the for the upcoming few weeks. But I am excited for that movie.
01:09:56
Speaker
saying Go watch Marty Supreme. You all love it. it we think about so should we We should probably write Smashing Machine too. you I think we talked about it. and we did. Okay, yeah. let me go Let me go back. I think I remember what I gave it, but... I remember what I gave it. All right, let me go back.
01:10:14
Speaker
Tachi, did you log it? ah No, I've been waiting to log it. Okay. I'll go first. Okay. I gave this a three. I gave that a three. The Smashing Machine.
01:10:29
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I will also give it a three.
01:10:33
Speaker
I gave it a low, low three and a half.
01:10:38
Speaker
Describe what is a seven out of ten as you can get. like bottom like that's it's stuck at three and a half. Yeah, it's not like that's probably it's like it's Dwayne Johnson wasn't as good as he is. easy Yeah. Yeah.
01:10:50
Speaker
There was enough that I liked about it to be like, I was pretty solid, but I'm not like, oh, that's fair. Yep. A little disappointing, but it happens.
01:11:01
Speaker
happens. I'd like the Safdies to get back together and try something else. What else you got besides the degenerates chasing something? One last question before we go. Okay. yeah Here we go.
01:11:18
Speaker
We posed this question on our one battle episode. Leo versus Timmy. Bob versus Marty. Oh, we didn't even get into that.
01:11:30
Speaker
Where do we stand now that we've seen it?
01:11:36
Speaker
And I watched both of these back to back. So like... do you have a pretty good gauge? I did my rewatch of one battle right after Marty Supreme. So... I was comparing. I was taking notes. Is this a question that we can answer in one of our future episodes or something that you want me and Tachi to answer right now? You just I'm just asking. I'm just asking. You can answer that question first and then I'll answer yours. Sure. If you want to think on it more, yeah, we can table it.
01:12:04
Speaker
Tachi, do you have an answer? What's the actual question? Who do we think best a should win best actor? Okay. Oh, my God. You're scared now, huh?
01:12:19
Speaker
I was the only one ready for the smoke. Okay, I'm ready. Timmy. ahead. If it's between them, I think it's Timmy. I agree. Wow. I agree.
01:12:32
Speaker
I think they both lose themselves in the character. They aren't an actor, they're a character. But I think Timmy just does a little bit more. I think he does. As Marty, then Leo does as Bob.
01:12:45
Speaker
Timmy's asked to do more and he does it.
01:12:50
Speaker
I think that's the hard part when like comparing like best actor performances like Timmy, his role does demand more. Like it's written like to be more of an out there character.
01:13:02
Speaker
How do you compare that to put it this way? Do you think Leo's the best actor in one battle? Do you think he's the best performance in one battle? Because I don't think he is. I think he's up there, but I don't think he's far and away the number one guy. Another way to ask it, who's more easily rep replaceable?
01:13:21
Speaker
placeable and best actor in their movie. I agree with you that Leo's not the best actor in the movie compared to Timothy being the best actor in this movie. Oh, that's okay. Is it Chase?
01:13:35
Speaker
No, I actually think Sean Penn's the best. I would say it's Sean Penn.
01:13:40
Speaker
Yeah, Sean Penn's crazy. He's so good. Terminator walk.
01:13:52
Speaker
He's doing things with his neck I've never seen anyone do and walking.
Family Moments and Actor Mentions
01:13:57
Speaker
Making it up for some lost daddy-daughter time. And it's very Daddy-daughter time. And it's very close with like Sean Penn and Leo.
01:14:03
Speaker
But just, we won't get into it. I have to think about the Sean, or the Leo and Timmy. Chase is still my queen though, just FYI. Chase for supporting. She still knocks. She's been getting best actress noms. She's been getting best
Award Season Buzz: Critics' Choice and Oscars
01:14:17
Speaker
actress. like oh straight The Critics' Choice of Awards is tonight, by the way, so this is going to be like a good indication of where the Oscars may be headed. She she has not been getting supporting noms. She's been getting lead noms. That's crazy. yeah Which is good because it means Tayana Taylor could get supporting.
01:14:35
Speaker
Wow. If she's in a lead, I don't think she would take it I don't think she would either, but I haven't seen everything. But it'd be a crazy nomination. gunning for her, though. She's my pick this year. Yeah. She's my ride or die. We'll have our Oscar nominations episode. The nominations are released on the 22nd, so we'll talk
Oscar Predictions and Future Plans
01:14:53
Speaker
about them. I'm to have to have some news catch up She's your Paul versus Killian.
01:14:58
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, we got to catch up. It's crunch time. It's time to catch up in the few weeks of January. And you guys need to catch up, too, so you know what the hell we're talking about.
Farewell and Recommendations
01:15:07
Speaker
Yes, you do.
01:15:10
Speaker
all right first episode i'll keep you guys posted on marty supreme okay and you can please do and and follow up with me on the leo versus timmy debate yes once i do i'll have i'll have an answer for you in at least two weeks At least. At the Bone Temple premiere. At the Bone Temple. um Yeah, go watch Marty Supreme. Let us know what you thought of it. It's a fantastic movie.
01:15:37
Speaker
Take your entire family to see it. They'll all love it. um But we'll see you guys in the next episode. Thank you for listening. Bye. Bye. you.