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Speaker: Are you ready? I'm ready. Hello, I'm Daryll. And I'm Cash. And you're listening too. Is this thing on? Podcast.
Speaker: Hi! Okay, let's do this. How are you? How are you? I'm fine. I'm still trying to recover financially. From the holidays, we're already getting there. And how are you? I've been waiting for you for a while now. Oh, I've been waiting for you for a while now.
Speaker: What do you mean I don't want to live? I don't want to live a city life, because I don't want to live like that. That's right. That's a provincial life. I don't want to live like that, because I don't want to live like that. This month, I don't want to live like that. I don't want to live like that last year, because I don't want to live like that last year, because I don't want to live like that last year, because I don't want to live like that last year, because I don't want to live like that last year, because I don't want to live like that last year, because I don't want to live like that last year.
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Speaker: I want to spend like a z -pad, go out as a boy. This is what I want as I grow old.
Speaker: That is going to be our topic for this episode. Smooth. So yeah. We are both in our late 20s now. We're entering our 30s soon. And we thought of asking ourselves, what do we want to achieve before 30? Or at least...
Speaker: I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is.
Speaker: You wish, bro. No, I'm 28. I'm 28. You think that you want to achieve before 30. Yeah, exactly. Okay.
Speaker: What are the things that we thought we would be achieving before 30? And now that we are approaching 30, what have we already achieved? And what are the things now? And then now that we are almost at 30, what do we plan on achieving then?
Speaker: Does that sound good? Okay. Yeah, I think that sounds good. So because of that, I'll throw that first question to you. I think I want to be a listener at this point. You're always a listener. I always talk. I don't know what you're talking about this time. Yes, yes, yes. First, first, I got it. Okay. I don't know what you're talking about. 28, 28, yeah. I think that's it.
Speaker: I don't know what this information, historical revision is that was happening. Anyway, so go back to the first question. I had the impression that in the early 20s I'll have my shit together. I thought I would be settling down. I would have a career.
Speaker: I probably would have a kid or a two, which is not even going to work. But it's funny because the way I had it in mind was not how I achieved it, but I got there.
Speaker: Can you describe what you had in mind? Can you describe it? Because you have a career, you have kids, you are settled down. In fact, you can't get out of where you are now right now. Because I'm so settled down. Yeah. So how did you imagine it before? I don't know. I guess I would be happier.
Speaker: We all have that hope. I guess you could have been happier. So does it mean you are sad? I imagine that I would be happier. No, I am happy.
Speaker: I think it's not so relevant for us to always keep looking for more. You always ask at the end of the day, is there more to this? So like more children? No, no. More workload. More workload. More children, more workload, more weight to settle you down.
Speaker: But for me, it's not a negative thing. It's a positive thing. What I meant to say when I said more was like, I ask myself, nah, is there more to life than this? Like, you think, nah, when you've already got to this point before you turn 30, you'll already be happy and content. But I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker: I think you need Jesus in your life. Maybe I do. How about you? When you were young, what were the things that you thought you would be achieving before you turned 30?
Speaker: I think it's the same as yours. I did not... I don't know if it's a deadline or by 30, but I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if it's a plan or not. With these kinds of things.
Speaker: I go with the flow and try to act as strategic as possible with it. We know that the universe will fuck you up, right? To live a better life than where I was back then, to have a career that I can be proud of. In fact, a non -corporate career.
Speaker: I would have a family, not necessarily a biological family, but people that would stick with me. It would last long until such a time that you are 30 or 40.
Speaker: What's a non -corporate career? Can you give me an example?
Speaker: Of course, that did not happen. And I don't think it ever will. Does it have to be sad?
Speaker: It's so sad because I did not get to fulfill that childhood or early adulthood imagination or fantasy. But I don't have my own choice but to be happy with what I have right now, right? So I won't call it sad in that lens. I also wouldn't call it wallachan choice. My choice is that I don't want to be happy about it. But if you want to be happy about it, you can.
Speaker: That's a choice. That's a choice, yeah. Among the things that you've mentioned that you thought you would be achieving or, yeah, achieving before you turn 30.
Speaker: living independently and more comfortably than when I was in college. Oh, yeah, definitely. And I think I'm... I don't mind. It's... I've been lucky and privileged enough to have gotten to that point. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker: Not too bad. Not too bad. The small things here and there. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. Oh no, man. Did I think I would achieve it before I hit 30? Yeah, like did you really? I want to make things clear. I want to make things clear. I want to make things clear. I want to make things clear.
Speaker: Oh my God, at a later age, I want to have a house. So did you really fantasize and want to have your own house? I pictured myself having my own family.
Speaker: And getting my shit together is having my own family settling down in a house that is mine.
Speaker: We had financial security, financial stability. I actually did imagine that I'd be having those things before I hit 30. Because for me, 26 was already old. I thought 26 was old.
Speaker: So I pictured myself, nah, I would already have achieved those things before I hit 30. But alas, the universe does not work that way. I know, because haven't you thought about it, nah? During our parents' time, Parang, it was so easy for them.
Speaker: I don't know, because it's invalidating experience for my parents, or young generation, not necessarily our parents, but for generations before us. But it was all about buying houses, getting a car, right? And it seemed so easy for them. I don't know.
Speaker: Right now, I don't know why, but I think it's because I'm a generation now, because I'm a graduate of a college, so I think it's because I have a lot of people who are from urban areas, urban areas, and urban areas. But I think it's because of the 17 ,000, 15 ,000, 13 ,000 entry level after graduation. But I don't know why, but I don't know why.
Speaker: I am not an economist, I cannot explain all that shit. In my mind, in my own opinion, maybe because of the generation before us, like, for example, our parents' generation, or as we became adults,
Speaker: I think they were more focused on their goal on settling down. Whereas, in addition to the goal, we just envisioned it, but when we got to a certain age, for example, when we got to 22, 23, we realized now, wait, we don't, because it's a generation, it's true, right? Like, in a generation, we didn't settle down.
Speaker: generation that wanted to live a little more than you know settling down into marriage and having a family we wanted more out of life than that we wanted to experience more and so our lifestyle was a bit different if not a bit much more different than our parents because say for example when they got to work maybe after college they've already
Speaker: you know, gotten into relationships. Okay, I will settle down. And this money is going to go into buying a house and you know.
Speaker: building a family here. We didn't really have that mindset then. We might have had it in the beginning, but as we grew up during college, we were like, you know what? We actually don't have to do that. We can experience more of life, like traveling and lifestyle then, even then. So our money, again, aside from inflation, our money was going somewhere else then.
Speaker: You know what I mean? And it's not the bad stuff. It's just a different means or avenue to find happiness and joy out of our lives.
Speaker: Hindi is fake news. Well, I don't know what to say. What do you think about it? What do you think about it? What do you think about it? What do you think about it? At some point in our lives, we've envisioned that this is what I wanted. I was talking about my younger self, my college self, early college. But then when I grew up a bit, that's where I realized, nah.
Speaker: That's where I realized, oh, I wanted more out of life. And then that's when, I want to live life more, travel.
Speaker: That's what I thought then, you know, before I hit 30. The universe apparently got the first request. No take -backs. No exchange.
Speaker: which I'm grateful for now, man. I'm so grateful to have my kids because I realized, I mean, aside that both of my children are bringing me joy, aside, I also acknowledge and realize now a lot of people in my age are also wanting to settle down or have a partner or have kids and they can. Yeah, like now that I think about it,
Speaker: Nopina laka ya ho, paarang an 'in green sa rin sa utta ko ei, kailan pog lakhe mo maha setul daungka.
Speaker: It's very specific and nothing else. Oh, I want it to be successful and by successful meaning you travel, you eat anything you want.
Speaker: Because that was their goals. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker: That's the other question that we will talk about in this contest. Our goals are formed by how we were raised. But eventually they changed because we find our own paths. We really realized things on our own. Oh, that's not what I wanted. It was something else. And sometimes it's kind of hard to
Speaker: I think that's the point where some of the people in our generation kind of feel lost.
Speaker: I don't want to find myself in a place where I don't want to find myself in a place where I don't want to find myself in a place where I don't want to find myself in a place where I don't want to find myself in a place where I don't want to find myself in a place where I don't want to find myself in a place where I don't want to find myself
Speaker: I hear that. They had to, like, leave the company, and they had to pay for the employment rate, and they had to pay for it, and it was an excuse. So, they had to pay for it, and they had to pay for it. So, they had to pay for it, and they had to pay for it, and they had to pay for it, and they had to pay for it, and they had to pay for it, and they had to pay for it, and they had to pay for it, and they had to pay for it, and they had to pay for it.
Speaker: Real estate. Real estate, no? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker: At least for me. It's hard, right? It is. What then do I want?
Speaker: I like what you said, Kasi, it also reflects our goals really will have to change eventually. Kasi, what do you think about the current situation? Those factors are out of our control. So what do we do then? How do we set goals for ourselves? And if they change, what do we do?
Speaker: I don't know, I can't answer that question. I don't think I have long -term goals in life. Yeah. I think, I think, there's been a lot of defense mechanisms ever since college. Probably. I would at least want to survive it day by day, but long -term goals would be like just a little months ahead.
Speaker: Because I don't plan for like three years, five years. It's that I get anxious. No. I'm not sure because I've never tried it. I've been switching companies for like one year, two years, really, but no. Like stupid capitalism.
Speaker: Yeah, because it happens. Stupid labor of fresh art. I don't have goals, Cash. Do you? Because I would love to hear what your goals are. I can come up with a made -up answer now that if you give me like a minute or two to think about it, I have default answers on my head. But honestly, I don't think I have any.
Speaker: okay well i'll let you think about that while i answer your question if i do have some goals since my mom fixed stuff you have i would say the privilege of making adjustments here and there because you're not tied up into something like fixed there are
Speaker: for example, having kids. That's a fixed factor. I cannot reverse having kids, right?
Speaker: I would think my goal is to have a house to settle in. It doesn't necessarily have to be mine, but I'd like to find a place where I would definitely want to settle in and raise my kids there, and it's a good environment, and I know now
Speaker: When we were kids, it wasn't like that before.
Speaker: When we were in college, we had a plan or we were thinking that, you know what, I will settle down here when I can, like, I will settle down back in Baguio. But now when we went back to Baguio and we saw how crowded it was, that changed. And we were like, hell no, I cannot. I'm not going to come back.
Speaker: Yeah, this is like, this is not the bagu that I grew up with. So that changed too, right? So for me, when I think of settling down, I would have to factor in like, it has to be a good enough environment for me to raise my kids for like 10 years at least. What and where?
Speaker: That's the question that I have yet to come up with and answer with. But I have a couple of places in mind. It's a podcast episode now. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it.
Speaker: We don't have a location, not a specific house. We don't have a location. We don't have a location. We don't have a location. We don't have a location.
Speaker: But yes, that would be ideal. Look, I was thinking about this. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. Yeah, we'll get there. It's a little bit faster than I thought it would be. But I don't want to go to the Philippines, because I don't want to get there. I don't want to get there.
Speaker: It's a new world. Are you open to it? From our friends. Oh, it's just a plane ride an hour and 30. You know a plane ride is expensive.
Speaker: and so is the onion travel like if you were riding a car but it's at least closer you know what i'm saying you know that it is at least closer
Speaker: I'm so happy that you're here! I'm so happy that you're here! I'm so happy that you're here! I'm so happy that you're here! I'm so happy that you're here! I'm so happy that you're here!
Speaker: Sorry guys, because I'm not having any goals in life. But to like really... Just settle down and be happy. If you want to go faster, you can go faster with the one word. Freedom. Freedom. Okay. Freedom. Next fast stop. Freedom from what? From capitalism.
Speaker: I hate to break it to you, Han, but like, Cebu is full of capital. He will never be free. As long as we are alive. No, no, no. Um, give me a minute to think about, like, freedom. Think along. Freedom from what?
Speaker: freedom from thinking about other's opinions on how I would live my life and raise my kids, I guess. Okay, they activate Facebook. Yeah, I know people will always have their opinions and that's something that I'm still getting in terms with. So let's to the last question.
Speaker: Because our last question is, what are the things that you think you'll be achieving now in your 30s that you weren't able to achieve in your 20s? I don't know, Hesh. I don't have an answer to that. If you were going to manifest something that you want to achieve.
Speaker: Well, I can say that I want more money. I can say that I want more relationships. I can say that I want more food in my ref. Okay, that's good enough.
Speaker: Okay, that's good enough. Okay, that's good enough! In the world of capitalism and speaking selfishly, but among two, one more above what I already have would be my default answer. Pero, if you come to think about it, things that are deeper than that, I don't know. Like... I don't know how to say that in an episode.
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Speaker: Okay. Yeah, I asked a few of my colleagues who are already in their 30s. Okay. My question was, if you could go back and talk to your 20 year old self, what would you tell them so that, you know, they could do something differently when they're going to go into their 30s? Interesting.
Speaker: And some of them answered like they would continue in their Bitcoin mining idea and then sell it on November 2021. And then another answer, their colleague answered, don't be a pushover. What's a pushover? Oh, I think that's a boomer thing.
Speaker: He also said, you stand up for your own, which I agree on. That's also something that I would tell my younger self. Have you not?
Speaker: Yes, I have not. I have not stood up for myself for a lot of times. And that is one of my goals. This coming when I turn 30, I will stand by what I want. I will honor what I want and not adjust it to what others want. Because I have been doing that for the longest time before.
Speaker: It has changed everything in my life drastically. I stopped by what I wanted and I should have stood up for myself and did not do this or did this instead.
Speaker: So that's a good one. My only regret is that I'm going to hold you down. So you just try to turn it into a life lesson. Try to gaslight yourself. Yeah, gaslight yourself into thinking. You know what? I can still change things. You might, you might, you might. Okay, I got it.
Speaker: I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it.
Speaker: Yeah, there was a lot of self -hatred ongoing there, you know. So I think this would reflect, that would reflect more on just accept what happens to your body, accept that your body changes, and that's okay. I don't know if it's okay. I think it's okay, but I don't know if it's okay. I don't know if it's okay.
Speaker: The waiting will be worth it. So I guess this is pertaining to starting something. The waiting will be worth it, which is a great advice.
Speaker: Another colleague was talking about her mom guilt because she was also a mom in her 20s and there was a lot of mom guilt happening. And I also feel that so that resonated with me because there's a lot of mom guilt happening.
Speaker: My other question was, if you have an advice to give to 20 -year -olds now, late 20 -year -olds, who are turning 30 soon, their advice is, one said, widen your skill set, do it while you are young.
Speaker: and get some goddamn sleep. That's what he said. I think this talks about like taking care of yourself. Wait, I'm taking notes. So yeah, widen your skill set, which is great because sometimes there are some things, like a niche, that may pay off in the future. So yeah, widen your skills.
Speaker: skill set. Another colleague said travel, explore more stuff. And the last answer that I got from another colleague was invest in yourself. And I think I want to
Speaker: plagiarize those goats. plagiarize to copy those goats. when i reach 30 and above i'm gonna get old but i want to be in a state where like for example i will accept myself and love myself more
Speaker: regardless of what career I have or what skillset I have or like what face I still have. I want to be an adult that has the privilege to like sleep a lot. Like that's a really,
Speaker: That's a really privileged activity nowadays. Investing in yourself. Investing in yourself.
Speaker: So it's not really a house. I think feeling good default is not a house. Oh, oh no. Yeah, a house. Wherever. Something. A car, blah, blah, blah. A family, a relationship, feeling good, feeling good, you know, boomer, peaching, something. Boomer answer, yeah. And it's, I kind of feel sad because if I don't,
Speaker: up until a few minutes earlier, you know, not in green. But thank you to colleagues. Yes. I know. It's like being aware of all this. It's like being conscious.
Speaker: Although I'm tricky, I'm tricky on the sleep part. I'm not going to age before we hit a certain age, because our bodies will give up on us soon. But at the same time, you know you have to rest then. I want to do all these things, but at the same time I feel the need to rest, so I have to balance it. And it's tricky for me.
Speaker: Yeah. So three, five years from now.
Speaker: But on Facebook, there are people who do not want to miss out. And so we try to stay up as much as possible because we want to witness whatever is going around us. I still want to watch a movie because it's like one hour long. I have to risk because this is a part of investing in myself and it is a privilege.
Speaker: I think it's a good topic to answer your question. I think it's a good topic to answer your question. You're investing in yourself is one thing that I'm already starting to do. Health -wise, physical, mental health.
Speaker: You know, you remove things that no longer serve a purpose for you or are dragging you down, so toxic. Anything toxic and trying to avoid it, nah. Except Savi. We'll get there. We'll get there. Eventually. Yeah. Hi. So, para therapy session.
Speaker: It's very similar to recording, it's like a material shit. It's the vague answer of I want to be happy, I just want to be happy. But I think it's deeper than I want to be happy. I think it's better to be happy than I want to be happy than I want to be happy than I want to be.
Speaker: I think it is something I would want to have. And I think our co -millennials would want to have that. It's like capitalism is shit. Freedom is an illusion. Settling down is an illusion. You will never settle down in this economy.
Speaker: You will never find a career not 10 years ago, unless if you're Jonas. I was like, not if you're Jonas. But other than Jonas, I don't want to stay here for 10 years because that's a boomer thing. You have to get out and grow also.
Speaker: Okay, let's go to the context, because my friend, Miss Jonas, is a guest on this podcast. And he's been a misemployer for like so many years, and I don't know what to say. How do you do it? How do you do you, Debye? If that's what drops his boat. Yeah.
Speaker: I'm happy. I'm actually happy for him. I think millennials will really... It's not about getting a house. We will never get a hot feeling. I won't be able to because it's so damn expensive. I mean, would you want to if you could? I wouldn't want to even if I could because yet again, my friends are scattered across places.
Speaker: Yeah, and if you want to like leave a traumatizing place, such as for example, because let's say that your relationship failed here and you don't want to go home to a place that reminds you of such abuse. That's an example, right?
Speaker: But yeah, that's true, that's true. As an end note to all of the things that we've discussed.
Speaker: I don't know how to say it in a fixed statement. I don't know. About reaching stuff before you end, before you get to the authorities. One thing that I've also learned is that there is a deadline. It's not easy to achieve. As long as you're breathing, as long as you're living,
Speaker: As long as blood is running through your veins, you still will have the chance to do the things that you want to do and achieve those goals.
Speaker: Because I think we need to have pressure in the generation. We need to have pressure. We need to have a lot of pressure.
Speaker: and depression sometimes sometimes I think I've learned this a lot of people are dead blind a lot of people don't feel like they feel like they feel like they feel like they feel like they feel like they feel like they feel like they feel like they feel like they feel like they feel like they feel
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Speaker: I don't know. Ironically, on social media, we all would have our time in the sun. We will all have our own season. We just have to continue on working on it. And blame capitalism. Yeah.
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