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Anastasia
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You didn't ask for it but here it is! Emma and Katie's first animated rom-com! Tune in as they discuss this 1997 delight. Emma rambles about her first hyper fixation Anastasia Romanov and Katie chats all things Flaherty and Ahrens.
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Introduction and Podcast Overview
00:00:24
Speaker
There was less sexiness in Irish Wish. This movie was hornier than Irish Wish. This movie is hornier than Irish Wish. Wait, I don't even... Wait, do they kiss in this movie? Yeah, they kiss at the end. They kiss at the end. Okay, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, there you go. They almost kiss three times. They almost kiss three times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I noted the almost kisses. Yeah.
00:00:47
Speaker
Caitlin came home right as I was at the end of this. so And then she was she was dancing and singing, so that might I might have missed some of. Was she excited that you were watching Anastasia? Yes, yes, she loves Anastasia. Yeah, amazing. um I will say, ah oh, I guess that that'll get us into it. um That's right, guys. You guessed it. This is Go Get Your Girl. This is the podcast where Emma and Katie have amnesia.
00:01:13
Speaker
And find out that find have to want to go find their family because they only include some weird necklace they have that says Paris on it. But the only way to leave their country is with travel papers because 1920s Russia. And they meet a really hot con man, not knowing it's a con man and his very charming friend. And they convince her that she might be that we might be sorry, we might be royalty. That's right, guys. This is Go Get Your Girl. I'm Emma. And I'm Katie. I like how you reframe every movie we watch as if it happened to twins.
Casting and Comparisons
00:01:58
Speaker
It could be. I mean, could you also see this movie being cast with Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen? Potentially. Honestly, I'm kind of surprised they didn't go there at some point. like I know. The princess switched. They had to use CGI.
00:02:17
Speaker
ah That's right. We're we're talking about ah the 1997 Don Bluth film Anastasia, um directed by Don Bluth and Gary Goldman, who also, so Don Bluth obviously made a lot of movies in the 80s and 90s. Gary Goldman also did Rock ah a Doodle and All Dogs Go to Heaven. ah But Don Bluth, of course, also made an American Tale and um um What's the other? Oh, the rats of the Secret of Nim. All those violent, sad, upsetting animated movies from the 80s and 90s after he left Disney and decided he's going to make his own animation company. I love it because it gave us this this sexy, horny, not quite historically accurate, but like enough little nuggets to give that little guy is doing a lot of work there.
00:03:17
Speaker
but enough nuggets that gave little Emma a little interest in 1900s Russia. Okay, okay, well, um so yeah, and let let's get it. There's a lot of sympathy in the Romanovs for this movie, which I feel is undeserved. um Just to to check in, the Romanovs were a ah a royal family from um ah from from across Europe really that exploited the working class of of Russia.
Rasputin and Historical Inaccuracies
00:03:53
Speaker
um The
00:03:56
Speaker
The Romanovs were terrible leaders who barely got Russia through World War I. They were beset by constant peasant ah rebellions, which were put down viciously. ah And so ah Nicholas II, the beloved father, had dissolved Parliament a few years before he was um he was assassinated by the Bolsheviks. um Not to mention the fact that Oh, go on. Not not to mention the fact that Rasputin was an ally of theirs, died before they did, and was certainly not allied with the Bolsheviks in any way. o Yeah. But speaking of Nicholas II. Communist corner. Communist corner.
00:04:44
Speaker
Nicholas the second he he he didn't want to be king or he didn't want to be czar. Here's one to screw his very pretty wife and ah party hardy hardy, which is ah one of the reasons that he was a bad leader. Also, um, Rasputin, I love that he's the villain in this, um because he was a terrible person. And he did suck.
00:05:08
Speaker
um yeah but he was He was a con man and a mystic. Yeah, yeah he was way more into orgies than he was into magic. Sure, yeah. or selling his soul and bats. Yeah, and he was like, you know, um there one of their children was hemophilia, was a had hemophilia, which as did many, you know, inbred royal um yeah children.
00:05:31
Speaker
ah And um the Sarena, whose name is, I don't remember, she was like... they Yeah, she was obsessed with Rasputin. It was kind of like you know like a like these these rich celebrities have gurus now that they trust with everything. it was basic and He was a con man who was using her and exploiting her for for wealth and and popularity and orgies. Yep.
00:05:56
Speaker
um And he claimed to have cured ah their their child of his um maladies, but um yeah he didn't really not do that. And he's famous because there were a bunch of different assassination attempts on him that he survived. So there was like ah a rumor that he used magic to survive, yeah which is silly. Yeah, ah yeah. He just sucked. But I love the fact that they're like, we're going to take all the politics out of this and just replace it with magic.
00:06:26
Speaker
Well, I mean, apparently in the Broadway show, they do replace Rasputin with some Russian general person. Yeah. Yeah. They take away the magic and they put back in politics because they're Disney. Wait, did Disney theatrical make Do the Anastasia musical? I'm pretty sure Disney theatrical did it. Because Disney bought this.
00:06:51
Speaker
yeah i mean because Yeah, because this was a Fox movie that Disney bought at some point in the 2000s before they bought Fox.
Disney's Influence and Rom-Com Elements
00:06:58
Speaker
So this movie was, I think, I'm not sure if all of Don Bluth's movies, but this movie specifically got bought by Disney. um So yeah, I would imagine Disney Theatrical must have done it, yeah. Yeah. But sorry, what were you going to say before that? Oh, I have no idea.
00:07:15
Speaker
OK. I will say at the beginning of this ah movie, like a third of the way in, Charlie turns to me and he goes, oh are you sure this is a rom com, Emma? And I was like. And I was like, you get to the train scene.
00:07:34
Speaker
Exactly. um wait This was it was around the trains and he was like, I don't know if this classifies as a rom com. It wasn't until the Russian ballet when Anastasia overhears Dimitri and the Grand Duchess, ah her grandma, grandma talking that he goes, oh, no, wait, this is a rom com. That's a trope. Mm hmm. Yeah. Well, thanks for the support, Charlie.
00:08:02
Speaker
Exactly, the entire time he was just like, I don't know. And I was like, this, look at, they're almost kissing, almost kissing, almost kissing. Yeah, it's the classic, it's a it's a it's a con man rom-com. It's a it's a like it's a it's a secret kept rom-com, yeah very common trope, yes. Did you also notice all of the like little, it happened one night, homages?
00:08:30
Speaker
No, I did not. They're very intentional. What happened one night? Yeah, the whole last scene um where he goes to get the money spoiler alerts for Anastasia, where she thinks he's getting the money from grandma. Yeah. And he doesn't that whole confrontation scene is almost directly the scene and it happened one night. Oh, that's so cute.
00:08:54
Speaker
Right? Oh, yeah, yeah. so i didn't yes So I forgot to mention the writers. There's like six credited writers. um
00:09:04
Speaker
Hold on, I didn't write them down because there were too many. But I do know that Carrie Fisher has an uncredited writing, wrote on this movie without credit, like many movies in the 90s and 2000s. Susan Gautier, bri but Bruce Graham, Bob Zudiker, and Noni White.
00:09:26
Speaker
um who ah wrote newsies and um like a bunch of other like animated stuff. Noni White and um and Bob Zudiker were married and they did a lot of a lot of scripts for for Disney and and other stuff. they did They wrote Tarzan as well. Oh, nice. Punchback of Notre Dame um and 102 Dalmatians.
00:09:54
Speaker
Not 101. Not 102. Yeah. The sequel to the live action version of 101 Dalmatians starring Glenn Close. Yeah. More Dalmatians. Which I don't think I've seen 102 Dalmatians, actually. I haven't seen it since it came out, and I don't even remember what the plot was. I think yeah they give them more like anaphomorphic abilities in it. I cannot remember. Oh, does it go does it go air bud? Do they had to the dogs like
00:10:25
Speaker
I can't remember, I can't remember. I need to watch it. I've i've been trying to force Charlie to watch all of those like live action 101 Dalmatians because he loves Dalmatians. And England. And England. And he loves the animated 101 Dalmatians. But we just haven't ever gotten there. It takes a lot to convince Charlie to watch a children's movie.
00:10:52
Speaker
Oh, that's a shame. um Have you seen Cruella? Yes, I love Cruella. That is on my list of things for Charlie to watch. Oh, my God. I love it. I was just talking to my friend Johnny about it because we went and saw it was the first movie that he and I both went together to see um after lockdown. We went to the theater in Logan Square and we saw Cruella and it was great. Cool. Yeah, I've heard it's good. Yeah.
Plot and Historical Context
00:11:19
Speaker
um This movie, however,
00:11:24
Speaker
We start in 1916. Russia, 1916? Yeah, 1916. Yes. And um they it's it's the the the murder of the um the arisar of the Romanov family. Yeah, but we start off at a mall. Yes, yes. yes ah where Anastasia and the Dowager Empress Maria, um also known as Princess Dagmar of Denmark, ah gives a music box and a pendant that says, together in Paris, to Anastasia, her um the youngest daughter. um In this movie, the ball is interrupted by Rasputin, who sold his soul to the devil.
00:12:17
Speaker
yep for a phylactery, which they call a reliquary, a reliquary in this movie, and vows to the Tsar that his family will be killed with a curse. that And that is the Russian Revolution.
00:12:31
Speaker
That's the Russian revolution. That's what starts the Russian revolution. Then the Bolsheviks storm the palace. And it seems it seems like he, I can't tell if he's supposed to be allied with the Bolsheviks or not. He definitely wasn't in real life. Or if it's like supposed to be a separate magic thing. I think it's just a magic thing. So the way that I grasp it is that Rasputin just is so mad that he got thrown aside and just um like,
00:13:00
Speaker
ah banished by the Romanovs, that he wants nothing but revenge. And so he just really wants to kill them. And so the Russian Revolution is just sort of a byproduct of that. Right. Right. Yes. Right. They're just inspired by the poor innocent noble family who certainly didn't deserve any of the things that had that that happened to them.
00:13:24
Speaker
Yeah, they're also drawn like absolutely gorgeous, gorgeous people while the normal average people of Russia with the exception of Anastasia and Dmitry are drawn like witches with hairs sprouting out of their chin. Yeah, it's it's rough. um There's a lot of everybody kind of looks like Madame Mim. ah Yeah, Yeah.
00:13:55
Speaker
it's ah it's Apparently, this movie was popular in Russia ah when it came out, which is surprising to me. very um they took a but it was it was also like it was it I read that it was um it was marketed as like a fairy tale or something like that like as opposed to ah ah true historical facts of the of the Russian ah revolution, which is, it's not how it was marketed in America, but it may as well have been, you know? Yeah, they were like, this happened. Anastasia was real, and we don't know what happened to her. We definitely think that she might still be out there and not her body. Her body was definitely also not, she was not massacred, and then her body melted down with lime. Yikes.
00:14:42
Speaker
um To be fair, i I don't think they should have killed the children of the ah of the of the Romanovs. Just to be 100% clear, I think that's that's a war crime and you shouldn't kill the children. Killing the the rulers is is cool and good though.
00:14:59
Speaker
Yeah, just like don't don't don't kill the kids, like why are you killing the kids? There's a show also, oh God, I forgot what show it is, but it's some time travel show, but they do a really good like historical flashback to the Romanovs murder art, like therere their children's like demise, because I was, okay, before we even- Was it the TV show, the Romanovs? No, it was not the Romanovs. Right, because nobody saw that.
00:15:29
Speaker
I started watching it. Charlie and I actually did start watching it. Because here, like let me give you a little backstory on ah Emma Pallisa here. When I saw this movie, when it came out in 1997, it changed my life. I was in love. I was obsessed with this movie. I had all the dolls. I was on track repeatedly.
00:15:58
Speaker
Um, I, we'll get to that. Yeah. Yep. Yep. We went to the, uh, I mean, we'll see, we'll see how you feel. I, Charlie has a different opinion than I do, but anyways. Um, I would go to the library repeatedly. I don't know why I never bought this book, but there was a like a picture book about Anastasia that came out around the same time. But it was like an actual historical like book about the real Grand Duchess's life um because she loved photography. And she so there's like she is the reason that there's a lot of like behind the scenes, like photos and like documentation of what life was like.
00:16:37
Speaker
living as a Romanov. And yeah, I was obsessed with that time and place in history because, um and by that, I mean, I was obsessed with the Romanov family, did not read anything about the politics, just about their lives.
00:16:54
Speaker
Um, they probably didn't put those in the picture books. I mean, you have to understand also that like the 90s was it was very, very, I mean, not that it's not now, but like, especially in the 90s, a lot of anti-communist sentiment in America. I mean, Russia was still, i I think, considered our enemy by a lot of people in the public, if not, you know, officially in the government, you know, it was. um Yeah.
00:17:23
Speaker
Uh, yeah, that you were not going to get, uh, an accurate telling of the revolution in America. Yeah, absolutely not. Absolutely. Thomas, not, not the place, not the place you can, you can, okay. Where, where are you? Oh, here he comes. You're going to see his butt. Hold on. Oh, Emma's rowdy boy.
00:17:40
Speaker
my rowdy boy who wants to sit on my lap. um Anyways, so I was obsessed and I know a lot about their lives. And I know a lot about the family. And I can tell you exactly what pieces in this movie are taken from a historical fact.
00:17:58
Speaker
um For example, this is the first of Emma's Fun Facts. Emma's Fun Facts. So the portrait that's in the ballroom that Anastasia goes and sings Once Upon a December and as well as the picture. Banger. Absolute banger. Thank you. I was worried when you said we'll talk about the soundtrack because Charlie has the opposite view as to all of these songs. Insane. Yeah, insane. And so there's the portrait when you go in.
00:18:29
Speaker
to the palace. And then there's the picture that she gives her grandma at the beginning of like this chubby little girl in a stool. And then there is the actual music box. um These are all actual things from the Romanov family. So the portrait just made it animated, of course. um You can see that portrait. And if you Google the Romanov family online.
00:18:56
Speaker
Um, the picture that she drew is one that Anastasia actually drew. Um, I can't, I don't, I don't remember who she like gave it. She said it looks like a pig riding a donkey. Yeah, that one. Um, and then the music box is an actual gift that was given to Anastasia. I think it's like one of those like,
00:19:15
Speaker
Hey, this is, I'm from another country and here's some fancy presents. This is for your children. Right. Right. yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you, you, when you meet like heads of state meet, they always exchange gifts. Yeah.
00:19:28
Speaker
Exactly, exactly. So those are all actual things. Also, she has one of the very first selfie pictures um because she was obsessed with photography and she took a selfie. And so, you know, Anastasia, she's one of the first people to take a selfie. Is she holding the camera? She's holding the camera in a mirror. Yeah. Oh, wow. She's like holding it down here. It's great. It's great. um Is it a mirror selfie? Yeah, it's a mirror selfie.
00:19:57
Speaker
Oh, Rad, yeah. Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah, and yeah, that's, I mean, I could go on and on about her sisters and her little brother who they were treated like he was made of glass because he had hemophilia.
00:20:18
Speaker
hemophililia um I, you know, I said that, and after I said that, I'm not sure. He had some kind of illness. um It's hemophilia. It's the one that like, if you bleed, you bleed forever. Yes, that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Many, many Russia, many, many no many nobles ah had that. The the whole Habsburg family was was riddled with ah hemophilia. um The, Alexei Romanov. Yep. They really loved the name Alex.
00:20:51
Speaker
Yeah, hemophilia. We got it. Yeah. Yeah. yeah um And there was like one instance where he like scraped his knee and then he was like out for like months because he just couldn't stop bleeding and they were worried he was going to die. And he was like the only son. And so everyone was really nervous. and She wrote a whole diary about it. I know way too much about that. One of your hyper fixations, it seems. Yeah. Yep. Yep.
00:21:19
Speaker
This was definitely, this was one of my first hyper fixations. um I know way too much, not enough about the revolution or the politics about this, but just about their personal lives.
00:21:33
Speaker
Yeah, ah if you if you are interested and reader and listeners, if you want to, there's a really good, um well told kind of like, not very dry, like um a, um what am I trying to say here and ease and easier to read history of the um of the Russian Revolution and the Bolsheviks called October.
00:21:56
Speaker
ah by China Mieville, who's who's a fiction writer and a um and a socialist.
Romanov Mysteries and Voice Talent
00:22:03
Speaker
um And it's um that's ah that's a really good resource for that if anybody is interested. Yeah.
00:22:09
Speaker
Oh, nice. I'll definitely have to put that on my list because I should probably round out that area of my knowledge. Oh, but that that leads me to the whole point as to why I took you on this journey of my hyper fixation. Oh, yeah. So when they were actually so what happened was when the revolution came in reality, the family was taken away to a like country house.
00:22:33
Speaker
and were told, you're just gonna sit out here until the revolution's taken care of and then you can go home. right And they were like, great. um But they had some like guards that were Bolsheviks and um they things started to get weird and they started sensing the tides were turning. And so the mom was like, okay, well, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna sew all of our jewels into our clothes.
00:23:00
Speaker
Um, so that, uh, you know, we can have all of this and it can like, and and when we're ready to like run away, like we can have all this stuff and it'll be like easy to to carry and stuff like that. And so the girls did that. Um, all there was Olga, Titania.
00:23:19
Speaker
one other one and then Anastasia because there's four girls and um they all work together just so because Alexei was a boy so he doesn't in the air so he didn't do shit and ah also if he pricked his finger with a needle that could be an issue so Yeah, exactly. um So all the girls like for weeks sewed all of their like family jewels into their clothing. And when shit hit the fan, they were taken into ah the basement of the country house and um guards opened fired on the family, um which is horrifying. However, because they had sewn jewels into their clothing,
00:24:00
Speaker
It acted a little bit like body armor in a frightening way because bullets would hit a jewel and then it would just ricochet around the room. So um it turned into chaos.
00:24:16
Speaker
um Which is like one of the reasons that people sort of use it as i um as evidence that Anastasia may have survived because they were able to find the bodies of all of the children except for Anastasia. I think they couldn't find a Lexi for a while but I think that that's because they like killed a Lexi separately because it was the heir.
00:24:37
Speaker
um but like they couldn't find Anastasia's body. And the reality that probably is, is that they jumped all the bodies in a in like a ah shallow grave and threw lime on top of it. So her po body probably got dissolved and that's why they can't find it. Yeah. And she was the smallest one. Exactly. People like to believe that because she was the smallest one, she somehow escaped Um, because it took a while to kill the family because and. Right, right. And it's, you know, everybody, everybody loves a legend. Everybody loves ah a lost princess. You know, exactly. Exactly. So that's the reality of the myth. And then, you know, of course, in the 20s, it actually there was actually someone that claimed that she was Anastasia. Right. yeah But she turned out to be a con woman.
00:25:39
Speaker
Anyways, back to the movie. In this movie, um so this is a this is a musical um yeah with um Meg Ryan and John Cusack. Neither of who's seeing whom sing in this movie. Nope. No, they don't. Also, I don't know if you noticed this, but gosh, it's early in the morning. I'm Fleming. Kirsten Dunst is young Anastasia, and the singing voice of young Anastasia is Lacey Chabert. Is it really?
00:26:08
Speaker
yeah Yeah. ah ah Wait, what singing does Little Anastasia do? I think they sing Once Upon a December together, her and Angela Lansbury at the very beginning. It's not much, which leads me to believe that Kirsten Dunst must really not be able to sing.
00:26:27
Speaker
Right? um But it is with Angela Lansbury who I'm assuming does all of her own singing. Yeah, Kelsey Grammer and Angela Lansbury do their own singing. Nobody else does. but burnnade And Bernadette Peters? Oh, and Bernadette Peters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bernadette Peters. Yeah, I was going to say, that would be a shocker. Who does the, let's see. Oh, and did you know Andrea Martin is also, she is one of the random voices. Yes. Andrea Martin, J.K. Simmons, and Billy Porter are all random voices.
00:26:53
Speaker
which I discovered because i because the i don't is it like it's like the train guard or something. Somebody you know won't tells it has this little scene with Anastasia and I'm like, that's gotta be JK Simmons. It has to. And I looked it up and it and just says, it says additional voices. So it is, yeah.
00:27:09
Speaker
ah yeah Oh, of course, okay. I'm looking at the singing voice. um Who's Dimitri's singing voice? Oh, I don't know who that is. But at least Anastasia's singing voice is Liz Callaway, who is a fantastic Broadway actress, who is also the singing voice of Princess Odette in The Swan Princess. She is also the singing voice in Beauty and the Beast of Belle. She is also in The Princess of the Bar.
00:27:40
Speaker
Wait, that doesn't make sense. Wait, she's no I thought Belle was, what's her name? Paige O'Hara. Hold on, I could be getting this wrong. I thought, for some reason, I thought Jodie Benson was Ariel Ann Bell. I think Jodie Benson is. Oh no, Robbie Benson is the beast. That's what I'm thinking of. ah Yeah.
00:28:03
Speaker
because Jodie Benson is Ariel and Jodie Benson also does someone else, I can't remember, but the singing voice is Liz Calloway. yeah okay Okay, cool. Yeah. um who she was also She also did um the musical Baby and a bunch of other great musicals on Broadway.
00:28:26
Speaker
Um, speaking of music, uh, so this is the, the songs are by Flaherty and Aaron's, which is a, um, um very well-respected, um, composer lyricist team. They did, uh, ragtime once on this Island, um, and a musical called lucky stiff, which you probably haven't heard of listeners. I know oh okay Emma's probably heard of it. Nope.
00:28:56
Speaker
but is super fun, and we did that in my college. We did a production of Lucky Stiff, and it's so fun. It was a main stage show, and I was the stage manager for it, so I saw it many, many, many times. It's a super fun musical. It's never been on Broadway. Have you ever seen it?
00:29:19
Speaker
I have, yeah, because I remember one of the high schools, one of the public high schools around me did it, and there was a girl who, she's now a great Broadway actress, but I was obsessed with her because she was such an amazing performer, and so I loved seeing everything that she did. Her name's Alison Luft, and she was in Lucky Stiff, and I remember- Was she the dog girl? Or was she- She was dog girl, yeah.
00:29:49
Speaker
die Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good audition song. It is a good audition song. But I went and i I saw it with my friend Hillary because she went to that high school and it was great. Yeah. um Yeah. Super fun. It's a farce. It's their first musical. Yeah. Oh, really?
00:30:09
Speaker
and they Yeah. Yeah. They have like, there's some, there's some kind of like, um, like a review or something before that, but it's their first, um, like actual musical. Yeah. But yeah, they wrote the music for this. Um, the music is, uh, really good. Um, I think, um, uh, Journey to the Past is a great song. Um, it lost the, uh, Academy Award for best song to a little tune called My Heart Will Go On.
00:30:41
Speaker
God damn it!
00:30:45
Speaker
Damn you, Celine! Yeah, but um but yeah, the whole show is good. I have not actually listened to the full Broadway cast. There's an additional 16 songs they wrote for the Broadway show, yeah. Well, because they had to like redo it. I have i've not. There's only like six songs in this musical, yeah.
00:31:05
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. That's the thing about these Disney adjacent animated musicals, is that you think that there's a lot more songs, but there's not. Yeah, they got to fill it out for a three hour musical. And also, they changed a lot of the script for the Anastasia musical. Yeah. Yeah, and I think that's one of the reasons that I haven't. There's not a bug chorus to sing the villain's song.
00:31:34
Speaker
um and the duda the night and da du da da da da It was just such a banger. It's such a fucking banger. It really is. Yeah. It sounds very Billy Joel to me. And I'm not sure. I think it's just the the melody there.
Musical Discussion and Personal Opinions
00:31:48
Speaker
Yeah. For some reason, it has got that kind of like 50s throwback ah kind of thing that reminds me of Billy Joel in the 80s.
00:31:58
Speaker
um Yeah, that's just what I was thinking of last night. But yeah, Stephen Flaherty has some ah musical ah ah tropes that he returns to again and again, you can definitely tell ah by listening to it. It's it's Stephen Flaherty composer. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. um But every single song in this is like is a frickin banger. Um,
00:32:24
Speaker
And to which, again, we will divert into Charlie's corner. ah Charlie, I turned to him at the end, because I was worried when he when he'd looked at me and he goes, finally, this is a rom-com, Emma, would you say? Could he never seen this movie before? Never seen this movie before. Did they not have, did they not have Anastasia in England? No, they've got Anastasia in England. Charlie just has not seen movies. He is like a caveman. I know. He'd never seen Star Wars until like 2014.
00:32:55
Speaker
That is actually very surprising because he is a male nerd. He is a nerd. I know. Yeah. And ah he he did not like it. Wow. Yeah. um Listen, I am not the number one Star Wars hater. I am a current Star Wars hater, but like four of the Star Wars movies are good. Like. Yeah. Let's not get crazy.
00:33:20
Speaker
yeah ah Are there entirely too many Star Wars movies and TV shows and are they like depressingly bad? Most of them? Yes, absolutely.
00:33:33
Speaker
But some of them are good. Stop. Can we please just stop? Can we just stop? I don't want to see another Marvel movie. I don't want to see another Star Wars movie. I don't want to see. Yeah. Can we just do something else? Can we just all hyper fixate on some sort of new thing?
00:33:47
Speaker
Like what has been trying to watch Deadpool and Wolverine over for the course of like two months. Like I'll come home and ah and it's on again. I'm like, have you? She goes, I'm watching like 10 minutes of it every three weeks or something. OK. I mean, like it's funny. Can you turn it off? I don't want to watch it. Yeah. Have you seen it? I have. Yeah. It's like it's a fun time, mostly because I'm sure largely because of Hugh Jackman.
00:34:14
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um The small moments I've seen of it are impossibly cringe and hard to watch. And i wanted I wanted to turn it off immediately. But again, I haven't watched. I've watched maybe a few minutes in the middle of the movie. so Yeah, yeah. It's fun, especially like if you have like followed the universe, which like Charlie's a big fan of Marvel, and he's a big fan of like all of that. And so we've we've seen all of it. And like it's a good time. It's a fun sort of like date night time for us because it's not hard to watch. it like Some of the the plots are fun. Yeah, do we get pew, pew, pew space time a lot and like way too much time travel. But it's something that we can compromise on.
00:34:55
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Sure, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yeah. But anyways, he he turned to me and i was at the end I was like, Charlie, what'd you think of the movie? I'm really hoping that he loved it and that I'm gonna walk upstairs to him and listen to Anastasia today. um He turns to me and he goes, yeah, it was really enjoyable. I wasn't so much a fan of the music as I was the talking parts. Wild, wild. Right?
00:35:25
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Right? Does he like Once on this Island or Ragtime or? He likes Ragtime. I don't think he's seen Once on this Island yet. Okay. But we saw Ragtime. What's on this island is? Like two years ago. Not my favorite. There's some bangers, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've seen Ragtime and I've been in love with Ragtime for years, but he had never seen it and we went and saw it because our friend, friend of the pod, Lily,
00:35:49
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um I could try and say your last name, Lily, but I'm not going to. Bjorkland? Is it not Bjorkland? Bjorkland. It is Bjorkland. But I was going to say i was goingnna say it in a very roundabout, wrong way. Bjorkland?
00:36:05
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ah
00:36:08
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Lily Bjorklund was stage managing a production of Ragtime that we went and saw. And so we went and we saw it. And this was also when I accidentally I'd button CBD gummies, you know, to like for like weekday little relaxing things, only to realize on the drive over that there was THC in those gummies. Oh, no. Oh, no.
00:36:34
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Like I had gone on a run. I had done like a bunch of other things, like hours later. And I was just like, I was driving there and I was like, Luckily they were like baby gummies, so I was fine. But like, it was like definitely. You and I are both baby gummies aficionados. That's all that, that's not, baby gummies is all I can handle. Yeah. I will be on the moon if I take more than a five milligrams. Yes. Be like, whoa. Real quick. they They also did My Favorite Year and Suicicle, which were, and the and and the Rocky musical, which I hear is actually good. Yeah, yeah, I have heard that too, but I just can't. I have not been able to, I just can't. Directed by Alex Timbers. Whoa, okay, maybe it is good. Really? Fun fact, Alex Timbers, also the original director attached to Cruella. Really?
00:37:31
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Yeah, what happened? I wonder ah he probably dropped out because I don't know Disney was I mean, I don't think he's I don't think he's directed any any any major movies at all. um Yeah. So I don't know. Well, I shout out Alex Timbers.
00:37:48
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Yeah, hashtag Alex Timbers. Anyways, so Anastasia. So Anastasia is trying to. I mean, basically, the plot of this movie, everyone knows Anastasia number one. Number two, this is a fairy tale. I guess that is the best way of putting it is that it is a girl who hits her head while attempting to escape the Russian Revolution.
00:38:12
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only to be found and wandering the streets, putting an orphanage and told that she is nobody. And so at the age of 18, she is given a job at a fishmongers and she has to get herself there. But then she walks there. She meets a dog named bua first. First. Yeah, there we go. Yeah. The cutest fucking dog in the world. And BP. I believe in movie. I believe a cocker. Spaniel is what they're going for. Yeah, yeah maybe like a mutt. He's a mutt.
00:38:43
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Yeah. so much um But he's unlike Anastasia. um Yeah, she is very much a thoroughbred. Yeah. ah But yeah, and so she she sings her first little song. It's just like, what should I do with my life? Should I like go and do this thing? You know, like every like I wish song in the beginning of a musical. It's called Journey to the Past and it rules.
00:39:08
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It fucking slaps. I love this song. Don't stop me now. But yeah, so she she then Puka is part of her sign along with her very long scarf that she never wears properly. Did you notice?
00:39:27
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Like it's Russia. You got up on the lab. Come on. Like half the time that scarf is like half in her pocket, half on the ground. And I'm like that scarf is probably gross and covered in shit because it is 1920s like St. Petersburg. Like there is snow. There is poo. There is lots of shit. That's just like probably all of that stuff.
00:39:49
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um but But the sign is like go to St. Petersburg. So she goes to St. Petersburg. She tries to get herself a ticket to Paris. um But apparently life in Russia in the 20s is rough and you can't leave well without Lenin had just died. ah Things are things are not looking good for the revolution. No. Yeah. And they have, you know, that that song where everyone looks absolutely miserable and they're like, it's really rough living here.
00:40:20
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Yeah, and here, but I think the that they do really overstate, I imagine, again, not Russian, not an expert in Russian history, but the average people um talking about ah how much of a shame it is that the Romanovs aren't in charge anymore. I just don't buy that. No, but I mean, like the biggest takeaway that I took from that song is a lot of like, you know, it Like when, in A Christmas Carol, when Scrooge dies, like people aren't sad that Scrooge is God, but they're they're super like grasping at straws to like be like, well, let's make as much money off of all this shit. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. And and you know, there's definitely like, there was already mythology mythologizing about the, about Anastasia specifically, even even that soon after her death, yeah.
00:41:14
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Exactly. it also doesn't Which everybody loves a story, regardless of your politics. Everyone loves a story, especially when you're like poor and cold and apparently have 80 hairs sprouting off off of your neck and then giant warts coming off of your face. but It's borderline racist. like i know yeah i apparently burn It Apparently, Bernadette Peters was very upset by her ah by her character. Bernadette Peters.
00:41:41
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I have notes about Bernadette Peters' character. I mean, when we first, Bernadette Peters plays Grandmama, who is Angela Lansbury, plays Grandmama's cousin, that every single wannabe Anastasia, before you get to speak to the Grandmama, the Grand Duchess, the Grand- The Dowager Empress Marie.
00:42:06
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Yeah, yeah, her. Angela Lansbury. Before you get to like actually talk to her and maybe win um or win some money, get the money the like reward money for finding Anastasia, which is what this movie is all about. um it You have to go through her cousin, played by Bernadette Peters.
00:42:26
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it called Sophie. And Sophie is like a Z cup, would you say?
00:42:36
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Yeah, yeah, um it's it's in there. it's definitely It's definitely on the latter half of the alphabet if we got to go there. Her boobs are bigger than her head. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like they're...
00:42:50
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giant knockers. She's also like, she's, ah yes, she's also shaped like she's perfectly round. Like she's Yes. um Again, like, and it doesn't seem like it's not it's not inclusive. Like it's yes it's it's it's drawn for like absurdity and humor. um It's not a an accurate render rendering of how a larger woman actually looks. Yes, exactly. And, you know, it definitely very 90s in the way of like all the ugly people saw yeah or are used for comedy and are beautiful couple.
00:43:27
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Dimitri and Anastasia, even though they both have been living the same way for at least 10 years, as people with hair sprouting off of their face, they look absolutely gorgeous. Dimitri was, I don't know if you have a first um cartoon crush. Mine was certainly Dimitri. Well, I've named a ah like, ah you know what a husband pillow is?
00:43:58
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yeah ah Like it's a pillow with arms. It's called a husband. Mine is named Prince Eric. If that gives me. Yeah. Prince Eric. Yeah. Yeah. Mine was Demetri. Demetri. It's a little bit later. Yeah. Sexy, sexy Demetri. Boy oh boy with that flop hair. That haircut. Yeah. Oh yeah. Woof. He's a bit of a bad boy too.
00:44:23
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Yep, yep. Prince Eric, Prince Eric is boring as hell. Let's be real. It was just, you know, that was just do shit. Oh, he's just got black hair and blue eyes like Jacob Dylan. Oh, yum.
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00:44:40
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Or Ian Somerhalder. Oh, oh, yeah. Yum. He would be a good he would be like a very dark Prince Eric like. Yeah. They'd have to create a character for Prince Eric for him to play and also exactly 20 years ago. Yeah, that's true. He's probably too. Yeah. um But anyway, so Anastasia goes and tries to get to Paris and and they're like, no, no, no. And then one of the people in line is like, go find Dimitri. He lives at the old palace, which she goes to. And then she walked. She just likes. We should say Dimitri was a kitchen boy, I believe, in the palace.
00:45:19
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and saved the fan saved um Anastasia and Marie. Exactly, yeah. He um opened a secret passage in a walk through a wall and got them out before they could get murdered, like the rest of her family. yeah horrifying. And um,
00:45:41
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yeah so she goes to the palace and Puka like runs in and she's like, you can't just run in there. And so she accidentally like breaks off some of like the boards and stuff, which this palace for some reason has not been ransacked. I i was so very shocked that it had not been looted.
00:46:01
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Yeah, I mean, you gotta fund the revolution somehow, guys. Let's let's let's right melt this stuff down. Right? Like, there's China. There is, like, precious artworks. There is, like, tapestries. Like, people could make so much money from a lot of the shit. And they just left it to, like, collect dust.
00:46:19
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To be fair, a lot of that stuff still does exist. So the actual Communist Party didn't, you know, they didn't destroy it. It was in, it was preserved in museums and stuff because that stuff is, I mean, the Winter Palace is still there, right? St. Petersburg? Yeah, you can go visit it. It's been on my list, except you have to go to, you know, you have to get there. Go to Russia? Yeah, Russia's not great at the moment. I didn't want to say it.
00:46:49
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But like i think i think that i think our listenerser I think we do have listeners in Russia. They probably do. Much like yeah we in America know that America is not great. America is not great. Not because of the people, but because of the government. Yeah.
00:47:05
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Um, but yeah, I'd have to go to Russia. um My sister lived in Russia, um, for a little while. And she speaks Russian. Yeah, I forgot. We've got a lot of Russian ties here. We're not and there's no Russian blood in any of my like family. I don't know why she was so interested in Russian history and like speaking Russian. um Was it because of the movie Anastasia?
00:47:26
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potentially. She was way more into the mummy. She wanted to be an archaeologist and learn Egyptian and hieroglyphics. She sort of flipped and then and now and then it's I mean, now she speaks Russian. And so yeah Rebecca, is that that that's her name? yeah that Rebecca. Hi, Rebecca. Hi, Rebecca. Thank you for listening. I'm pretty sure you listen because we've got listeners in Ottawa and that's where you are.
00:47:53
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Tell all your friends. So Anastasia, she wanders into the palace. Anya, Anya is her name. She does not know that she's Anastasia yet. She wanders into the palace and she sings a song because it all seems so familiar and she's getting deja vu. And then she runs into Dimitri and his BFF. Oh my God, what's his Boris? What's his Vladimir? Vladimir.
00:48:23
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Oh, I just got to play by Frasier Crane himself, Kelsey Grammer. Vladimir. vla Great voice, Kelsey Grammer. Yes. So, so good. um Absolutely unrecognizable. Because I was like, I remember that he was in this movie, but then like when we got to Vladimir, I was like, is that Frasier? Yeah.
00:48:46
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I mean, here's the thing, in a lot of animated movies, when they cast celebrities, they try to make the model look a little bit like the celebrity, and this movie does not do that at all. Yeah, and so there's a lot of disconnect between the actors and the characters they're playing. Yeah, and honestly, this is kind of one of the, this is kind of the, I mean, they don't really look like Meg Ryan and John P. Sagg. They don't, but their voices are so...
00:49:14
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. But like this was one of the first kind of movies that had a big name cast, animated musicals. Because like we said, you know Beauty and the Beast and and um and The Little Mermaid and stuff and all of those famous Disney movies, like they weren't they weren't famous people in those. They were just voice actors.
00:49:38
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Yeah. um it was and like I guess the Lion King. The Lion King had James Earl Jones and Jeremy Irons. um But that was it. yeah and Matthew Broderick.
00:49:50
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Yeah, but he was, yeah, I guess. yeah I guess Toy Story was probably the first like big animated movie with like yeah big, big stars. Cause like Tom Hanks and Tim Allen were both, I mean, people forget how famous Tim Allen was. yeah Um, Tim Allen was huge in the, in the nineties. Um, so I guess that was maybe the start of the the trend. And so this was a couple of years after Toy Story, but, um, yeah.
00:50:16
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Yeah. um But yeah, this cast is stacked and they didn't make them look like it like the actors, which is like very discombobulating in a lot of ways. But it works. So yes, she meets Vladimir and Dimitri and they're like, oh, my God, you look just like Anastasia. And she goes, oh, my God, stop.
00:50:37
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and And they're like, no, seriously. um You should come with us to ah Paris and say that you're on a station. And she's like, that sounds like a crime. And I don't feel like doing that. And they go, but like how do you know? How are you going to know? And she's like, yeah I guess. I guess. So. um Yeah, so then they go on a train to Germany to get a boat to Paris. Well, they're I think their their plan is to go to take the train all the way to Paris, but Rasputin sends his ghouls after them. His ghouls?
00:51:20
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So this movie is like and it's so funny because like we're watching I was watching this ah ah late last night and it was ah like they kind of wrap up the rom com part of them like oh god there's another 22 minutes we got to deal with fucking magic Rasputin over here. This whole bit where Rasputin comes back to life because he sold his soul to get, so for ah fantasy slash D and&D people, Rasputin is what we would call a lich.
00:51:53
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and That means he is ah someone who a wizard who became very powerful and made a deal with a devil to get immortal life or or great power, um dies, and is their soul is inside an object of some sort that we call a phylactery. In this case, they call it a reliquary, but he has this little glass tube that has his soul in it. um And he gives him great magical powers. Yes. So he also has an adorable little sidekick who we don't really know because you have to. But all the villains have to have a cute talking animal friend in the 90s.
00:52:41
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Bartok the bat um played by Hank Azaria who is just making it's ah you can tell it's improv like he yep He's basically just doing his own thing while Christopher Lloyd talks to himself. ah yeah they like They don't go into their relationship or like how, how Bartok is like, like why Bartok is with Rasputin. Cause he's not on board with what Rasputin's doing. He tells Rasputin. No, he's like, well then you're going to kill her. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, maybe get a life, sir. I'm not sure what accent he's doing. Um, like Hungarian or something. Sounds Transylvanian.
00:53:24
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's named after like Bela Bartok, the composer, right? That's got to be. And so with that person, he was Hungarian. and Yeah, Bartok was Hungarian. OK. I mean, we don't know why Bartok's there. He's just there. No, he's just there because you got to have a cute little and he's adorable. He's a little albino um bat with a little little snub nose and he's adorable.
00:53:54
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And at the end he gets his own little French bat and they fall in love and they kissy kissy and it's great. Very forward pink bat. Yeah. Yes.
00:54:08
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I don't know anything about bat mating rituals. We know they say about French girls. ah
00:54:16
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He has a bug song, which is very hard to watch for me. But it's a banger. It's a banger, yeah. A bunch of little bugs singing. His head is off. This movie is so, it's rated G, but there's really upsetting imagery in this movie, which goes to show, that was Don Bluth's thing. Very violent.
00:54:39
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darker movies than Disney was putting out at the time. um His head is off all the time. He melts into a skeleton at the end. Yeah. Yeah. His fingers are constantly falling off. This movie made me question what human anatomy looks like. Yeah. Yeah. Because at one point his head goes into his like into his torso and it's just like stomach acid and like ribs. And I'm just like, is that what's all inside of us?
00:55:07
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his mouth comes off and is on his beard and is still talking and stuff. It's fun. The animation in this movie is mostly great. um There are there's some weird CGI stuff because it was 1997. And like, again, Toy Story had come out. And so there's a lot of like computer generated backgrounds and stuff, which had they had done, they did that in the Beauty and the Beast and stuff. um Yeah.
00:55:29
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Some of it is a little jarring, but most of it is really beautiful. um yeah One thing I noted was that especially once they're in Paris, they do a lot of um shaded like quotation mark key light stuff on Anastasia, which makes it look like a 1940s movie and stuff. It's very it's very fun. The train sequence rules like the train crash is so good.
00:55:57
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um it's the anim i mean like The thing about Don Bluth Studios was that they were trying to to push forward animation further than what Disney was doing. And this is definitely like, this is the this is the best you know looking movie they made for sure, I think.
00:56:12
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Oh, for sure. Yeah. I mean, there were multiple moments during this movie because you start with the the music box, which is has the CGI dancers. Yeah. Yeah. And the door knob for some reason to the opera house. The CGI looks terrible. Yeah. Right. There. I like Turner, Charlie. So many times. And I was like, when I saw this movie in theaters, I remember that being groundbreaking. Yeah, it was. It was. Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:39
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ah Like it looked so cool in 1997. Yeah. And now in 2025, it doesn't feel as cool. um It's one of those things like the hand drawn stuff looks great and the CGI stuff stands out as as bad. It's like that's yeah, that's yeah. What's going to stay in the test of time?
00:56:59
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hand-drawn animation. Anyways, um so Anastasia and Demetrian Vladimir and and Pooka because Pooka is there the entire time. Thank God. ah Yeah. They, ah you know, have to escape this train because Rasputin tries to attempt to um He sends his green little little ghouls after it and and destroy the train. um But like because because he wants to finish the job and finish like the Romanov curse he laid on them and kill the last remaining Romanov, and that's why he's he's still around. um There is like a really good like rom-comy scene on the train with them where they're like you know fighting and stuff. She's like, well, quit bossing me around. It's very rom-com.
00:57:48
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So cute. So, so cute. And when he wakes, he wakes her up, she's asleep and they realize that they forged their passports wrong and they're going to get stopped by the guards. Like we got to go to the baggage car, which is what makes how lets them survive, honestly. Exactly, yeah. They go back to the, that he has to wake her up and he as soon as he wakes her up, she slaps him and she goes, oh, I'm so sorry. Oh, it was just you, nevermind. Love that. and he And then he makes the comment of like, I think you broke my nose. And she goes, men are such babies.
00:58:20
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Yeah. Great. It's great. um um So, yeah, there's this whole train crash sequence where, um you know, they she saves him. ah She catches catches him and pulls him up when he's about to fall off the train, which is important. And um they like throw a hook to stop to to stop their the train cart from going off the cliff. because And also, they're like,
00:58:45
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They kind of take all of this in stride. They're not like, hey, what the fuck is happening? Did you see those green demons attack the train? No, none of that. None of that. They're never questioning any of it. They're just like, well, I guess we just have bad luck onto Germany. Yeah.
00:59:01
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Like the train is out of control. The bridge is destroyed by green energy. The yeah the hook was melted closed so they couldn't, so they'd use dynamite to blow the train cart away. And they're all, this is like, they just get in the snow and they're like, brush themselves off. Like, well, I guess we're, we're walking to Germany. It's like, excuse me.
00:59:23
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And then they get there and they're waiting for the bus. And she's like, and it's revealed that you have to go through Sophie before you can get to the Angela Lansbury. Who Vladimir is in love with. Yeah, who Vladimir is in love with. And I love that. And um and she's like, ah well, I guess teach me to be royal. And we get another banger.
00:59:47
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ah Yeah, about teaching her. It's the like how to song in a musical. ah And he's tea they're they're dancing on the ship and stuff. It's really, it's really so sexy. It's really hot. Yeah, it's really hot for me to have a little waltz number. But then on the boat, more stuff goes awry because Rasputin's not done.
01:00:12
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ah He makes her have this weird nightmare that she like, she sleep walks to the deck and she's about to jump overboard and drown herself when Dimitri saves her. In rough seas, yeah.
01:00:27
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in rough seas and she goes the rush the Romanov curse the Romanov curse and he goes what and these are like there's a few little nuggets of like her giving up information that they're like that Dimitri is starting to like catch on that like well maybe this isn't we're not ending so much that she's she actually say this Asia yeah um yeah And it really dawns on him when they are at Sophie's, and she has that little pre-interview. And Sophie asks, well, how did you escape the Russian Revolution? And she goes, this might sound weird. But like there was like a boy, and um there was a door in a wall, and we went through the wall. Oh my god, I know that sounds crazy. That's so crazy. And yeah everyone laughs yeah about it except Dimitri. And he goes, well, what?
01:01:14
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Yeah, yeah, and like she's starting to like and so the part of that flashback thing is like she's starting to get like some of these memories back as well. Yeah, and she's starting to remember. Yeah, exactly who she is and her family and all that stuff. um And so then they they go out shopping for the ballet because they find she goes directly she goes directly to Chanel.
01:01:39
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directly to Chanel, which absolutely Queen, hell yeah. Charlie turned to me at that point and he goes, is this why you like, I can see why you like this movie. It was like every little girl screams.
01:01:55
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Her ballet outfit is fucking fire though. Like the opera gloves, like that midnight blue kind of, yeah, it rules. The choker, like all the things. This was also another moment that Charlie turned to me and he went, why is she not wearing the Together in Paris necklace? That's her one clue as to who she is that might give her validity and she doesn't wear it to the ballet.
01:02:23
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Because the Dowager Empress can't see it yet, obviously. I know. Well, I said it didn't go with the outfit. Well, that's true, too. Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:35
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um um Yeah, it's yellow gold, and she's doing this like white thing. yeah Exactly. It doesn't go with the outfit. And so Dimitri tries to sneak her in to see the Dowager Duchess. And because she has stopped, she has refused to see any more Anastasia con women. she's She's had it, yeah. She's had it. And the door doesn't close fully all the way. Of course it doesn't.
01:03:02
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and ah Anastasia, over here. You got a big close up of a CGI doorknob. Yeah. Yes, which is very jarring. It reminds me a lot of like a 90s video game.
01:03:16
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Yeah, yeah, for sure. And so the Anastasia is overhearing this conversation between Demetri and Angela Lansbury. And she's like, oh, I know who you are. You're that con man who is holding auditions for Anastasia wannabes. Well, you can't have my money, sir.
01:03:38
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And Anastasia hears us and then we have our confrontation scene where Anastasia's like, you were using me and I just want to know who I am. So book you. And she runs away and. Yeah, because like she wasn't aware of the money, I think is the thing, because she knew that they didn't really think that she was Anastasia and she didn't think that she was really Anastasia. But the issue that she had was the money.
01:04:07
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Yeah, yeah, it was the money. It was the fact that it was all for money. um So she yeah just sort of like, she felt like a cash cow. And so she runs back home. Dimitri is like, well, I got to fix this. So then he kidnaps Angela Lansbury.
01:04:26
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Yeah, well, I mean, at this point also, he ah he also knows that she's an estate, that she really is an estate. Yeah. Like before he goes to the Empress for the first time, he knows that she's Anastasia because he's like, yes, princesses don't marry kitchen boys. So like, yeah I'm going to like get her her family and then I'm going to like I'm going to like fuck off because she deserves better than me. It's like, yeah, I love, you know, like, right. Classic rom com stuff.
01:04:56
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Demetri. Demetri. And so then, um, yeah, Angela Lansbury shows up and is like, um Hey, what's up, girl? I hear you might be at a stage and she's like, Yeah, I don't know who I am. I just want to know who I am. Demetri was using me. I'm really upset. And then she's like, cool. Okay, bye. And then it just stops. goes come in And then Angela is like, yes, an oil for my hands. Just I spilled a bottle once. The entire carpet was soaked. I used to lay on that carpet anytime you went to Paris when you came here. And then they're like, you're at a station. And she finds the necklace. Yeah. Yeah. And then they do the music box.
01:05:42
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yeah yeah and because Dimitri gives her the music box because Dimitri has it. Yeah. And he's like, this, ah this is proof that I was there. Yeah. ah And then there's 20 minutes left of the movie for nonsense Rasputin stuff. He attacks them and he tries to kill her on a bridge and they're like hanging on the bridge and then they have to save each other and Dimitri gets knocked out and Puka saves the day by biting.
01:06:22
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Rasputin's ankle for Anastasia to get around him so she can crush his little phylactery and kill him. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And it's great. And then um they, Anastasia and Dimitri decide they they just want to be together. They don't want any sort of like pop and circumstance about it. And so she returns her tiara to Angela Lansbury with a note that says,
01:06:47
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I'll come back and visit some time, but Demetri and I were in public marriage. She tells her that. She's like yeah she's like you can like, you don't have to stay with me. I'm happy to know that you're alive and you'll I'll always be your family. and we can you know But you don't have to you don't have to do any of this. You don't have to be this like princess in exile along with me in Paris. You can live your life. You can marry Demetri if you want to. He didn't take the money, she tells her that. Yeah.
01:07:15
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Yeah, that's the go get your girl speech. Yeah. yeah so good Yes. Yes, it is. Yeah. Yeah. And like go get your and they Russian con man. Mm hmm. Yeah. And then Bartok ah gets ah basically assaulted by a pink French lady bat and says, good night, everybody. And close.
01:07:36
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ah
01:07:38
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Very silly ending. Yes, I love. Yeah, yeah. He he abandons Rasputin. Yeah, before. Yeah. like Which is great. He tells him a stress. It's a killer, sir.
01:07:52
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And then I have to imagine that Puca and Vladimir um live happily ever after because they're dressing each other in adorable outfits. Yes. Oh, my God. Puca has a little sword.
01:08:04
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He has a little sword. And at one point, Vladimir, when he's getting ready for like the royal ball, he's like, you've got you don't need this many medals. I'm going to put this little medal on my thing. Yes, yes. Oh, god yeah. The end. Yeah. The end. That's Anastasia. Amazing. Great film. What are we doing next week?
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Next week, we are doing an homage to the ah what we would call rom-coms of the 1960s. It is called Down With Love with Hugh McGregor and Renee Selweger and It Rules. It rules. I'm so excited. Amazing. Down With Love, we're gonna get a lot of history about Doris Day and Rock Hudson.
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Which again is one of these things that like, it feels like a musical, but it's not a musical. Yeah. It's very musically shot.
01:09:13
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, shall we outro? Let's do it. Let's do it to it. All right. Thank you for listening to Go Get Your Girl. If you like us, tell your friends and please rate and review us on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. It helps out a lot and we would really appreciate it. Thanks to Andrew Milliken and Nyx Fabota for our theme music and Elena Henderson for our artwork. You can follow us on Instagram at go get your girl pod or email us at go get your girl pod at gmail dot.com. You can follow me on social media at Emily and pizza and me at Katie of the Lake.
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Until next time, we're just two girls. Standing in front of the internet.