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185. El Duelo Infantil, Congelado y Migratorio con Catalina Osorio Arteaga Kocturk
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Catalina Osorio Arteaga Kocturk, nació en Medellín, Colombia. A sus 20 años emigró a Estados Unidos donde recibió una formación en psicología en Queens College, NY. Luego de graduarse, se trasladó a Estambul, Turquía donde se casó y donde reside con su familia. Hace 15 años que se dedica a la educación preescolar enseñando no sólo inglés, sino también gestión de emociones, autorregulación, y técnicas de relajación. En el 2020, la muerte de su padre y la pandemia la acercaron al tema de la muerte y el duelo. Se certificó en Consejería en Duelo y se formó como Tanatóloga. Es miembro activo de G5, un grupo tanatológico para acompañar procesos de duelo desde diferentes frentes. Hizo parte del equipo piloto del proyecto “Pepe Grillo”, primer grupo virtual de duelo infantil en América Latina; facilitó el grupo “Tío Beto”, capacitación en duelo infantil para los cuidadores primarios de los niños de Pepe Grillo y actualmente es facilitadora del proyecto “El Profe”, taller de habilidades en acompañamiento en duelo infantil y del adolescente para profesores y psicólogos en el ambiente escolar.
Catalina salió de su país hace 28 años, vivió 7 años en Estados Unidos, 9 meses en Brasil y 21 años en Turquía. Es así como el Duelo Migratorio se convirtió en un tema de gran importancia en su vida. En este episodio comparte información muy valiosa desde la Tanatología y desde su propia experiencia. Su propósito de vida es generar una cultura de duelo, en la que se normalice hablar de la muerte y las pérdidas y se facilite su gestión a través de estrategias de afrontamiento aprendidas socialmente. Para ella, el conocimiento empodera y es un ingrediente vital para la resiliencia motivo por el cual le apasiona transmitirlo.
Ha sido invitada a Podcasts, En vivos, programas en YouTube, programas de radio, talleres, charlas, simposios y Cafés de muerte, entre otros. Hace parte de la revista tanatológica Ars Moriendi en la cual escribe artículos sobre Duelo Infantil.
Es amante de la naturaleza, de los bosques, los animales, del arte en todas sus expresiones, del yoga, de la lectura, de su familia y amigos. Es también maestra Reiki y ama viajar.
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The case that was discussed was not only the case, but
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Simply, y ganamente, a enfrentar todos los otros todos ellos de la miz mamanera.
Exploring Loss and Gratitude
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Ignorarlos, no alidarlos, negarlos, hasta que finalmente se termino conjelando.
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Hola, bienvenidos al podcast, Grief, Gratitude, and the Gray in between. Historia de duelo y gratitu. Esta podcast, vegriado para explodar los entimientos de perdi aue ca say and differentes momento de
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Bienvenidos, a la
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What do you the you and
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Yes, because we have an audience with information, like all of us, and specifically with information on the part of the infantile part, but also as a professor, what do you think of this education?
Audience: Educators and Children
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Yes, yes, yes. In many ways. This is the combination of all of us. I think this is an audience with an audience like all of us, with a professor.
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¿Qué están? También lidíando, ellos como profesores, y más estros con niños que quí santenido una perdida de
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I was born in in the gym, I was in gym, I was in the gym, I was in the gym, I was in the gym, I was in the gym.
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to see with you. I think it's one of the things that I've been doing for a and you know me me lo, me lo pernite. Eso la contió a pregos dal, porque.
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¡No, e gísimo, a la educación, y a más e resta mi madre, y a eníno ya grandes, ya.
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Ado los sentes pero a toda esa combinación a se que tengas un don de la amigration del duello migratorio.
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It's the same with all the other people who are in the mood for the year. It's the same with all the other people, all the other people. It's not It's the same experience. yes call It's the same with me. It's the same with you. It's the same with you.
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So the connection, if you have a to create a
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¿Pues que la no Superignorado. ¿Hos a
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¿Qué tienen un bebe? Porque las mamas en, en question dese en manas y estan trommo hando? O porque las mamas tienen a lo como que a, los niños tienen.
Frequent Loss in Life
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Constantimento, una cantía de perdías, es importante reconocer las lo de familia, las compañera del tramajo,
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Cesar prendenar alber, como que hay? Choson un calo a viar la señal como con una perde ya. Sí, a mi medios o perduro, famo y complejo, vez o perde fisil, pero como que no un calle a via, poste se titulo. Y a vez es lo múnico que tú me ese sí, tas es poner la titulo. Y dar le, poner, dar le solugar y muy lago. ¡Vádido! ¡Vádido! ¡Vádido!
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Si, lo que está al diciento es, exacta vente la
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no no? Es muchas cosas que vamos biviendo desde infancias, desde antes de
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Aulita. ¿Y cómo los enfrentamos sera validación? Ay, mi amor no habale la
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regulares a motion que están sin tiento. Ente es que pasa que se acostó un gran, simply, y ganamente, a enfrentar todos los otrusto de los de la miz mamanera. Ignorarlos, no
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Y por ejemplo eso que puede gevar entos a
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¿Cósas hacique pueden veces como que tomar ese papel de bueno pues estoy no estó no lódo es las cósas, ¿cósas? ¿Cósas? ¿Cósas?
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mira en la tanatología, el tema que más me a
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Este es que lo que paza. Tú es de peque nito, bieza zas con Jellar estos duellos. Y los baz con Jellando, simply la
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Maintaining Connections and Understanding
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This terminar may see now or I'll say when I'm in contact with you here, but I'm in contact with you, I'm in contact with you. Finally, the terminar will be in the next 1000 years and I'll jump in the process of it. Until next time.
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a moment in which this is very particular, because I think that I am very happy to be here with you. I think that when I come here, all of a sudden, I say to you, oh, I see! me um ah see but come on and does pri top for a employla mi graatorius la luna le yeah also as the la pan natolo here so he said luna and yeah yes guest that release
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¿Cómo fue para ti esa realización de de guard? Recuerdas las emociones a el redo de ese de duello?
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What is it? It's a lot of work. It's a lot of fun to start with a person and to inform you, how to do a project for a video, because at the same time, it depends on who you are. You know what's up? What's up? What's up? It's the only one that exists on Facebook.
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Don de avián más familiares, don de la gente a la almíndioma, don
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Una religion differente. differente.
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Yes, but I don't know
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i know that not wow It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. a source who baty conen has have momento
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per and what is necessary to have a relationship with them, with them, with them, and with them, when they are with them. So, the first thing I want to say is that in a regulatory process, the idea is to have a relationship with them. So, for me, this is the only way I can do it. So, the first thing I want to say is, the first thing I want to say is to have a relationship with them. And that's what I want to Ejos no miras do. y tostas legales, estas illegal, lo te hanamandara a rojos demigración, no? Lo unico que justquier en como, como tu representación de tu pais de entonación alía en el exterior es desir y oí. Que bueno que estás acá, ante puedo el quercosa, nos otrus de ayudamos ir realmente, yo es a poyan en una cantía de cosas que yo por ejemplo, con de yo quiega turquia, yo nueces eso.
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en los adías, yo tenía enticías años, yo tenía amíos, a in mediatamente.
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For example, if you have to be recognized, and you have to be in local that is connected to the parks.
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En todos de salle, en todos culturales, hay una lista, en personas a las que tu puedes acceser, en todos de esta el quieras y colo, en colo en biese, y no para tu quieas, y no puede ajer ser como, y colo, puede y colo, en colo en biese, y a la tu video, me que bueno cono se heirlo.
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with the artist, with the person with whom it is a
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I know a Koreatown, it's like, you know, it's like Queens, but I And think that when you're talking about your family, you're talking about your family.
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Ante el porque a veces ocure este este como, le,
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Natál. Entonces, la gente ese aj prós, que no prós, que no es que de to
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potaer compoittoma i'll go kerania and i i dora see And so it's like, I get that, how much empathy I, I see, I see it. It's not, it's not as personal as, as an, as an, the police. So I understand it. And, uh, it's been told, okay, he said the contact, I don't know. I don't know. It's not because I don't know. But for me, for example, Algo que fue como mi comunidad, buscar comunidad, fue parte dame, como mi aspecto religioso, esa fue una de las cosas que, que de comunidad, don de se a que me muy, de, de, de tres thousandidos.
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It's important to have this aspect of being in
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in a place, in a place, in a place, in a place, in a place, in a place, in a place, in a place, in a place, in a place, in a place, in a place, in a place, in a place, in a place, in a place, in a place, in a place la la laviretoa e le maaalmomi minto teresianno postolao just riianiccoli eutoresiano complete ummit The and I think it's very spiritual for me, because I have an education in in a and a
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de llaga, mosa, ahh, osa al nirbana, cuando no
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con el universo, cuando nos sentimos perfectos porque es homos, no el un agotica del marcino, como es el rumi, el marre en un agotica. Oza, cuando de llacamos a ese punto,
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E que que nos, que nos gia vano trabes a very thin line, es como, como a la una, un limiten muy delicado, yes.
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Que tanto estas pegado de tu cultura que no te deja experimentar y profondizar en la cultura, la que tu estas. Porque en toz deja con momento en el que tu ises es que colombia es lo mejor, es que la navía el lo mejor, es que mezamigas colombianas un lo me
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For example, when I was Islam, I didn't know do, me,
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to the place where I live. But I don't intend to live in in And and muslimares, can you see us and we really can't suppose it's on us a comb a bear to the adaptors is a low on it is is con esta into this is a design is a design
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Look, all of the of this podcast. It's about grief, gratitude. It's about doing it, a meana gratitude and In the a escape it that but sal cause a helo you see the compiler and pa zeuno corel casta when i said un up for man ca well westes alllien
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When it exists, it's as those emotions in the most responsible.
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and el mis but um In elmin nokara ah instantania meant the
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No sientes tanta tristeza y te acustumbras. La palabra acustumbrar es como que dejardes entir in como dida. Dejardes entir tristeza. Dejardes entir no stalia. No. No mira, yo juego, venticiete añas por favor a
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And that's why I'm very happy. I'm very happy. I'm very happy. I'm very happy. And I don't know what else I can do, but I'm very happy. I'm very happy. I'm very happy. I'm very happy. I'm very happy. I'm very happy. I'm very happy. I'm very happy. I'm very happy. I'm very happy. I'm very happy. I'm very happy.
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Hello. Hello. No disconnectos. Well, this is one of the most common experiences, super bonitas, in El Desarrollo de los Ninos, to una temaínas la cara and gua caposomi papa unat staya hi pu and loa perudin momentum link digital ju hyper rirokita passo ke tambonitolanniia jaran de no se me a no día, me dijo.
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no solamente, mi gratorio, el que se fue, es el todo, el que se qué a.
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a pesar de que yo soy feliz, yo croque yo soy la columbia en la feliz en estambol. Yo me sojo, este pais, me sojo, esta ciudad, soy tourista, eterna. Aqui habren un lugar nuevo, yo me voy. Un ex, un exivisione darte, yo me voy. Un no
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Degevara toda las personas que de gan de visita, de las ventión años. No, no me casa, me fascina por que yo me estoy está ciudad. Sine embargo,
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Mm-hmm. ¿Chéjico mis hijos no vivieroneso? Mi papa en mi mama, no vivieroneso. ¿Y eso me Latinos con turcos yeah hey mosi ainaldo arepopolitoana via li tosto kierranno so nati ja mu nueloss lo con se gimoel they say al kevin rec kilo manor taemo portque oionosa conci yaka yes i muslimlo le puta said lo lamane ramas pera mr pa peterrojo merito porestainmonoss aum braos and meleji salum bra delri And as of to it.
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lano da yeah came also aicamate rela lagrima c keju piz um ah collo cardin in in La de la mi de yo que hago.
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<unk>la firiala flore in a Colombia, Colorado, Peru, Peru, and a festival of all time in Istanbul and in Auril. No mello, Pierto. que yo me hoy para todos los parques a la no no tienes.
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