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Reprocessing Trauma with Jennifer Schrappe, LPCC
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Jennifer Schrappe LPCC-S has been a therapist for over twenty years, specializing in trauma. She is the Founder and Director of Chrysalis Enterprises, a private counseling practice in Columbus, Ohio. In addition to her work at Chrysalis, she is also a professional speaker. Jennifer has created the Heal Your Money Stuff, Calm Your Life program for those who struggle with ongoing money management issues, and is developing a program for entrepreneurs who are in recovery from food addiction.
www.jenniferschrappe.com
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Show Highlights:
This episode features Jennifer Schrappe, a licensed professional clinical counselor and supervisor specializing in trauma and emotional woundedness. The discussion centers on various healing modalities and how unresolved pain impacts daily life.
Trauma Expertise and Personal MotivationJennifer Schrappe utilizes IFS-informed (Internal Family Systems Informed) therapy as a trauma therapist. Her path was driven by a deep desire to help others avoid the pain she experienced, particularly relating to internalizing blame for her parents’ divorce and a resultant 40-year food addiction.
Healing Childhood Wounds (IFS)Schrappe guides clients to connect with the wounded child part (e.g., a 10-year-old) to unburden its pain and find safety and compassion. This process allows the client’s emotional protectors (like anxiety or the inner critic) to calm down, as they realize they are no longer reacting to pain from decades ago.
Neutralizing Recent Trauma (RRT)For recent traumatic incidents, she may use Rapid Resolution Therapy (RRT) to neutralize the traumatic effect and stop the brain from "looping" the memory (causing flashbacks or intrusive thoughts). RRT leverages neuroplasticity by having the client remain in a calm, safe place while the therapist retells the traumatic memory with purposefully incorrect details, forcing the brain to relearn the memory without the trauma and sting.
Life Impact and Self-ProtectionUnresolved trauma and anxiety can affect all aspects of life, including relationships, money management, and work. Jennifer views unhealthy or unproductive behaviors as self-protective responses. She also emphasizes that struggles like depression are not personal failings but signs that an internal part is "crying out for help".
Programs and Entrepreneur SupportHer work extends to webinars and programs, such as "Heal Your Money Stuff" and "Calm Your Life Program," addressing how internal parts interfere with daily functioning, specifically around money management patterns (e.g., fear spending, guilt spending). She is also developing support for entrepreneurs navigating addiction recovery or emotional struggles that crash with their business endeavors.
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Introduction to 'Grief, Gratitude, and the Gray in Between'
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Welcome to Grief, Gratitude, and the Gray in Between podcast. I'm your host, Kendra Rinaldi. This is a space to explore the full spectrum of grief, from the kind that comes with death to the kind that shows up in life's many transitions. Through stories and conversations, we remind each other that we're not alone.
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Your journey matters, and here we're figuring it out together. Let's dive right in to today's episode.
Disclaimer on Diverse Perspectives
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Let's start with a quick disclaimer. This podcast includes personal stories and perspectives on topics like grief, health, and mental wellness. The views expressed by guests are their own and may reflect individual experiences that are not meant as medical advice.
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As the host, I hold space for diverse voices, but that does not mean I endorse every viewpoint shared. Please listen with care and take what resonates with you.
Meet Jennifer Schrappi: Background and Beginnings
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Today on this episode, I am chatting with Jennifer Schrappi. She is a licensed professional clinical counselor and supervisor with over 20 years of experience.
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With a heart rooted in serving others, she specializes in issues of trauma and emotional woundedness. We will be chatting today of all things trauma and her work and who she serves. So welcome, Jennifer.
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Thank you. And thank you so much for having me. Thank you for being here. So let's first find out a little bit of where it is that you live and where did you grow up and where do you right now serve in your capacity?
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So I grew up in Northern Kentucky and I specify that because Northern Kentucky is so separate from the rest of the state. It's basically Cincinnati.
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it' It's the Kentucky side of Cincinnati, Ohio. And currently i live in Columbus, Ohio, where my husband is from. and Okay. How long have you been in Ohio?
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and ki ah Let's see. About 14, 15 years. Okay. And so your clients are, do you not only see in person in Ohio?
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and But yeah, I know you do webinars and other topics and stuff too, and we can get to that too, but do you also have clients that are virtual? Can you help people? Yes, I have. Yes, I have clients I see over telehealth ah because my licensure is in Ohio. They all would reside in Ohio and And then, but as far as like webinars and workshops, that could be for anyone, anywhere.
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ah Great. Okay. So tell us what it is exactly that you're, that you do.
IFS-Informed Therapy and Professional Journey
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What is it that you do? I am a therapist, so I provide IFS-informed, so internal family systems informed therapy.
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And i started off mainly as putting myself out there mainly as a Christian counselor, but I wanted to, I wanted people to know, all potential clients to know that they were safe.
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And these days,
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identifying as a follower of Christ will often be very, it can cause people to feel a certain way and to feel that they would be attacked, that they would be judged, that they would be hated, which is just as a person who is, who is tries to be motivated by Christ's love is very grievous. That's, that's very grievous. I understand it because there's a whole lot of horrible things going on out there, yeah,
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These days, i would say that I am a trauma therapist who uses IFS to bring healing and relief.
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And it's so important to have these services. And regarding actually even just sharing that you have these beliefs can make people that are rooted in a Christian base feel also safe and seen as well. Yes, yes.
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So it can be either way. Sometimes it's okay to niche as well if by chance that is what it is. But at the same time, too, somebody that is not doesn't necessarily have those beliefs can feel, okay, this is someone that is rooted in spirituality.
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I can relate to that, right? So there's always something we can connect to. Yeah, absolutely. So there are people who they come to see me because they want somebody who shares their faith.
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And there are people who don't, but they're still okay walking alongside me in the therapeutic process. Perfect. Perfect. So now what led you to become ah licensed therapist? what was this What was this journey for you? like What did you study? And then you were like, oh my gosh, this is what I have to do.
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What was that journey like?
Childhood Trauma and Career Influence
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It was a deep desire to help others. And that ah that's often what we say, right? It's this it's this deep desire to
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help others not have to go through some of the same things that we have gone through and to suffer the ramifications that we have suffered. So that was really what it was so much about.
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And for me,
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i grew up in the
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1980s early 90s, those were my growing up years. And after my parents divorced and I believed that it was largely my fault, being the oldest and being a typical child,
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then i i took on burdens that weren't mine. And as a way of coping with the emotional ramifications, I started eating and eating and and finding comfort in eating. There's a lot of addiction in my extended family, God bless them.
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And that line of addiction runs in me as well. And whereas in other family members, it was harsher substances, With me, it's always been food. So for 40 years, that's been my story. I'm 48 years old. This started when I was about eight years old.
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And so I started to put on weight and ah my mom and my siblings and I moved ah back down to Northern Kentucky from where my parents are originally from.
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And so I was starting off at a new school. So here I am just grieving, grieving the loss of of my intact family, right?
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And being so sad, being so shy, so insecure. And at that time, i was starting to put on the weight.
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So I was isolated from the other students, both out of self-isolation and then they learned to leave me alone and then as I put on more and more weight it wasn't like I was i would say one of the very few overweight kids in the school it was not as normalized as it is now would be a ah very simplistic way of putting it and so
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And back then it was far more rare. And at my school, it was even more rare. And so then I was ostracized even more. And I internalized that. I internalized that and it took years to really start to come out of my shell and to be able to really open up to people.
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And so that pain and I, and I still carry that girl around inside. Like I can still connect with her. I can still remember what that felt like to a large extent. And so to, to understand firsthand that pain, shame,
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shame to understand the reality of carrying burdens that were not mine, yet I was still weighed down by them. And then the coping mechanism of food and other unhealthy behaviors.
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So it was this perfect storm. And if I can help other people avoid a great deal of that pain, I'm all for it.
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I am so grateful that you shared the part of the aspect that the divorce itself was this grief, because it is something I talk about in this podcast. And a lot of the people I interview, it is not only death related that we experience grief. We experience grief in many different changes in our life and transitions and having that rupture of the divorce of your family and it not looking the same, that's a major grief.
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And the part of you internalizing it and making it be ah thinking it was your fault that they divorced. It's so interesting how the childlike mind even though like as an adult, we can still like rationalize, it wait a minute, it wasn't my fault, but it's like part like part of us still stays in that little kid of how you understood that.
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I think of it, for example, I was watching this TV show. I grew up in Colombia. And in this TV show, there was like, when I was little, there were like all these like jokes that I really didn't get.
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And they stayed in me as I perceived them then, right? And then it was not till I was in my twenties that somebody said, you know, that part it was like, this is what it meant. I'm like, Oh my gosh, I had still stayed understanding that TV show.
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Just like when I watched it was, was eight. So it's the same thing in our lives. If we keep on seeing things with the lens that we saw it through as a kid, it's very hard to shift.
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How do you work on that with your clients on the aspect of shifting the perceptions that we might've had as a child to now seeing them for what they are as an adult, yet at the same time respecting that that hurt, that trauma and everything that that child lived is valid?
Healing Childhood Wounds
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Ah, yes. Great question. So what I would do is I would help the client in front of me to connect with that childhood wound. So let's say that, you know, within the client, there's this, there's this 10 year old who suffered something traumatizing and still holds that, still carries that, is still so afraid that,
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I would lead the client through a process of connecting with that wounded 10 year old and helping that 10 year old to, to unburden that pain, to unburden those things that, that he or she is carrying and to find safety and to find love and compassion.
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And the client is the one doing these things guided by me, of course, but the client is the one healing himself or herself. And so then that, that 10 year old child comes to see, okay, that, that, that horrible thing happened and it was so painful and it was so scary, but it,
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ended and I am okay now. and And I have this safe person who is here with me, who is helping me, who sees me and understands and and will be there to support me. And I have this safe place I can go to. It's all part of the process that I lead the client through.
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And so then the child, that that wounded child part, is calmer, is very much healed. And as such, the client's emotional parts, which were reacting to the pain of that child, those parts come to see, this person is not the wounded 10-year-old anymore. The person who survived that grew up is living a ah
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much better life than that child had to live. Okay. We can now calm down some and not overreact like we were because when that is happening, when we have these childhood wounds that, that we're reacting to, what is occurring is our anxious parts, our inner critic, depression, grief, whatever those parts are, they are seeing the wounded child, and they are reacting to that wounded child, even though this was decades ago.
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And so when we can help them reset and and see the client in present day, then they calm down quite a bit.
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I love that you share that because yes, it's like so many times, like I even find myself, I'm like, why did i why is my body reacting this way to that? And so i try try to analyze, I'm like, what is it about this instant that is making me feel this way?
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Because it's not the person, it's not the situation. It's like, there's something within that that's bringing something up in me that I'm reacting in this way. But it's like still like trying to go back to like, okay, where where in my Where in my life did I experience something that maybe resembles this, that I'm reacting like this to that? Because it sometimes doesn't even look like the initial threat, quote unquote, that the child might have felt in that trauma, but it still ends up showing up in other ways, right?
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If it triggers a similar feeling, it can trigger that old memory, that old wound. That old one. Now, how do you navigate, let's say, recent
Recent Trauma Techniques: Rapid Resolution Therapy
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trauma? Like, so this, we're talking here, the childlike trauma and then an adult.
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Now, as an adult coming in, that's experienced trauma. And it could be of different forms. In this case, a lot of my listeners might have experienced grief, grief ah trauma based on the grief experience themselves. If by chance they witness a death or it was a traumatic way and however they were told that someone had died, whatever it may be.
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How different is the way in which you would coach someone going back into something that might've just happened a week ago rather than informed by what you lived as a child.
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So something I might do, Kendra, is I could and have, i could do the same kind of process with, you know, considering that it's the, it's the adult version from a week ago, who is the wounded version.
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that we need to help. I may do that with the client. If it's a traumatic thing, if if it's a traumatic incident, then I might use a completely different process called rapid resolution therapy, where I have the client, and and this is all about neutralizing that traumatic effect because when we witness something traumatic, the brain will often get stuck on it and keep replaying it and looping that. Yes. Keep looping it. Yes.
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And that could be flashbacks. It could be nightmares. It could be intrusive thoughts that could show up in different ways. And it's a self-protective response. It's the brain saying, okay, ah well now you see a car,
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that is just like the car from that accident, watch out. Maybe that accident is going to happen again. And it's not logical, but our emotions are not logical and the brain is not always logical.
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So in something with something like that, I will often use this way of reprocessing called rapid resolution therapy, where I have the client go to a safe place, mentally go to a safe place.
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And then I gather details about the memory. So the client is feeling safe. The client is feeling calm. I then gather details about the memory. I'm literally taking notes.
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Okay. And then with the client continuing in the safe place, I retell the memory back to the client, but I purposefully get every detail wrong.
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So if it's a car accident, I might say, uh, it was a blue car. No, it was a red car. ah This car accident happened during the day. No, it happened at night. Okay. It happened in this part of the city. No, it was another part of the city and on and on and on.
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And we will go over every detail that that we need to in order to really address the key points of the memory. But what happens is because of neuroplasticity, the brain is forced to relearn the memory and it will associate it with that calm, safe feeling that the client has in the safe place removed from the memory.
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So we go over all the details and then afterwards the client sees, oh Yes, that that was a that was a horrible occurrence that was very scary, but there was an end point to it and I am still here.
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And it's not possible for that exact incident to happen again. It's not possible. Yes, something else like it could happen, of course, but it's not possible for that exact thing to happen again.
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It happened. It's done I'm still here. And then the memory doesn't have the same kind of effect that it used to. it it'll It can still hurt.
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And of course, there's still the repercussions if if there was loss. There are still those repercussions. it doesn't just erase everything, but it takes a lot of the sting.
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It takes a lot of the trauma out of it.
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Now let's get back to the show.
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Oh, wow. So this this type of method, how different is this one to EMDR
Comparing Rapid Resolution Therapy and EMDR
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of reprogramming? There are a lot of similarities. Yeah, because yeah it's also taking away where how it's affected.
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That one's, i what is it called? Eye movement desensitization. Yeah, so it's also a desensitization, only that just in a different way. In a different way. Yeah. Changing the neurosplasticity, but just in a, okay.
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So then it's the reshifting to some, extent well, recalling the memory and seeing, okay, like this happened at 1.30 PM at a Tuesday afternoon with the sun, the weather was this way, that the but like all these details that that exact time scenario would never really be exactly the same ever again with all the different components that were in that particular moment of the trauma. And so by reshifting that, then it reshifts a little bit of how that is presumed as
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dangerous within us so that it's not looping. Okay. Wow. So interesting. i did the The brain is just something that is incredible. It is how it does this and it really is there to protect us.
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But yet at the same time, it affects so many parts of our life when we're living with these loops or when we ruminate or when we, you know, all these ways in which sometimes we handle anxiety, ah anxiety right? With rumination or with, you know, different things like this.
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So tell us the ah the the how many layers in our lives could be affected when we have not handled like unresolved trauma, or we have anxiety. Like with some of your clients, just stories about how, what other aspects of their life are really affected by this?
Impact of Unresolved Trauma
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All aspects of their life can be affected. All aspects, relationships, um, driving down the road, going to the store, working,
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hanging out with others, the way that they manage money, it can color everything. It really can.
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And when we look at unhealthy or unproductive behaviors, when we look at them in terms of how are they self-protective, it makes a lot more sense.
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Because you can be more compassionate to yourself too, right? In that moment. And it's so important to be compassionate with ourselves because we're so judgmental and it's our own judgments of our behaviors because we're like, well, this is not rash.
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How come I cannot get in the car? Like you, you end up judging yourself for not being able ye to do that. Then the inner critic will show up and it will be, it can be quite fierce, quite fierce.
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Okay. Now that is that journey of this. Now tell us in terms of the aspects of what it is you do online with the webinars that you do. You speak on different topics. so I do. Tell us about these and how you got to do it. Some of my parts would say that i I try to speak on too many topics. I need to be more specific and niched on.
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You're a well-rounded woman. I'm like the same. I love to talk about different things. It's like we're here, you know, we have interest in different things. Like, why not? Okay. talent Tell We are allowed to speak. yeah right So some some of the today,
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that I will talk on. I mean, basically it'll all tie back to our internal system and how our parts can throw monkey wrenches into things.
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and And I'll, I'll tweak that in different ways. So I might talk about how our internal system, how our parts will have effects on the way that we manage our money.
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So if we are, if If we're so afraid to spend money and and so we are, you know, we're we're uncomfortable with making this purchase, which would be a wise purchase, but that feels so scary because, oh my gosh, what if I need that $30, $40, $50 for something else in the future. I don't know what that is, but then I won't have it and then everything will fall apart. So there's fear in that.
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Or if I am overspending because I'm afraid of missing out on something. Or what if I am guilt spending because What if I am spending because of a personal loss?
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And so I want to right some wrongs that i that I feel inside. So I lost this person in my life. And there were all these things that we wanted to do. And we didn't do those things because because I was too busy or I was distracted or i wouldn't spend the money then. Well, I'm going to spend it now with my loved ones. I still have so that, and there's nothing wrong with spending more time or money on your loved ones, but if it's wrecking your finances, we have a problem.
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Okay. So I like to talk on those topics. I like to talk about, how our parts will, our internal parts can throw monkey wrenches into the the day-to-day living, day-to-day working, ah how we might run a business as an entrepreneur.
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how we relate to others, how we manage stress, anxiety, ah how to better understand depression. Depression is not some kind of personal failing. it is not laziness.
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Depression is this this internal part that's crying out for help because it all feels like too much and so it's better to shut down. Maybe it is all too much. Maybe we do need to take some time away, but we're not <unk> we're not paying enough enough attention to that need. And so we keep driving, we keep pushing.
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So there are so many different ways that I want people to know that when they're struggling inside, that doesn't mean that they are weak or crazy.
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It means that there's something that needs some TLC, right? There's something that needs more understanding inside and i can teach people how to do that. It's like a fever. You're like, you have a fever, then you know there's something else going on and then you figure out what it is. And it's the same here. You just need to, it's just a sign that something needs to be addressed.
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And so that I was looking right now just to see the name then of one of the ones you have is Heal Your Money Stuff. That's the one you were just talking about. Heal Your Money Stuff. you mean Heal Your Money Stuff. And the other one is called Calm Your Life Program.
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the the What you just mentioned about the many reasons that either we spend or not spend, right? That could be the part of this ah and thinking that it's going to run out or recessions coming again and then or something, you know, like, a you know, like collecting things, thinking that it's going that you're going to need it because we're going to go into a war or something, you know, so people collect money because they hold onto it so tight because of past traumas that sometimes weren't to even, they might've been a child when certain things like that happened and they could see their parents, you know, keep, I'm saying this actually, my grandmother used to keep lot, I lived with her a lot, a lot, a lot of and canned goods, right?
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And we lived on the beach. So they would, of course, rust because they we were near the ocean. But it was this aspect of keeping things in case you need, like a bunker type of component, right? Just in case you needed it.
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Because of the time period she had grown grown up in, you needed to have, you know, food. We all kind of went through something with it COVID, right? We started all accumulating toilet paper or whatever.
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Yes, we did. you Right. So we all went through some kind of trauma of thinking something was going to run out or that we were not going to be able to have access to. And we also started accumulating and how that experience even for us could shape how we there either we act later on or our children act later on.
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We won't really truly know until it already happens and see, oh, that came from this incident. Are you noticing nowadays some of your clients having some of these aspects that came from the, from the quarantine component already, the trauma that was associated with that or behaviors?
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I do see some of that. i do. That it could be. Yeah, with um being overly, perhaps overly prepared, overly responsive to maybe some current threats or you know threats that could come.
00:31:06
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Yeah, and definitely more anxiety. Yes. I mean, I know that for me, it was like just the aspect of even cleaning or all this thing and disinfect. I used to never even, even when my kids were little, like my second one, I never even disinfected her, her shopping cart, you know, with the first one I did, not the second one.
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And then Then during the COVID times, I'm like, oh, I guess I'm supposed to disinfect everything we touch and this and that. And like this whole brain changing, you know, little bit of this fear of that too. So it's incredible in how short of amount of time your brain can completely like take on a whole other different form and your behaviors all shift from one scenario that quickly.
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And it does take a while to kind of reprogram again. So with the one of calm your, uh, calm your, feel your money stuff and calm your
Heal Your Money Stuff Program
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life.
00:32:04
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Yeah. Calm your life. Oh, it's a one, it's all one. Okay. Got it. Got it. It's comma. That's okay. Okay. How do people access this program? They can go to heal your money stuff.
00:32:18
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Actually it's heal money stuff.com. They can go to healmoneystuff.com and there's a way to get on the interest list for when we open up the next cohorts.
00:32:33
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That is so good. and And you have people that it's everything, right? So it's, again, like you said, either from overspending to saving to all, so all different kinds of money wounds ah that people may have.
00:32:45
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Yes, anything, any kind of ongoing money management issues. So if there are patterns that people are noticing that no matter what they try, how hard they try, they keep ending up in the same situation. Either the debt is increasing or they are they're overspending here, they're overspending there.
00:33:09
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We can help with that. Because really, it can affect also even just that aspect too. It can affect so many aspects of your life, especially your relationships too, when you have certain unresolved situations with money, because that causes a lot of stress.
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and fact That's probably the biggest stressor in people's lives is how a lot of times do do you not, would you say so? Yeah, it's a huge stressor. And it divides families a lot of times all around something that we're not even going to take.
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but but Yeah, we're not even going to take it when we leave this plane of existence. yet Yet here we are fighting over
Support for Entrepreneurs
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it.
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Jennifer, is this something I have not asked you that you want to make sure that you share with our clients before we go into how else they can find you? Is there something else you'd like to share? Sure. so something that I am developing is support for entrepreneurs who are working through maybe it's recovery from some kind of addiction. Like with me, it's a lifetime of food addiction or it's like ongoing,
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emotional wellness. So there are some real struggles there and they find that and the recovery and the emotional stuff will interfere with their entrepreneurial endeavors and entrepreneurial endeavors will interfere with the other and they can, they can crash in awful, awful ways. And so having lived that over and over and over there, there's some, there's some work I want to do in that area. And I don't know, it's very, it's very new.
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It's just developing. But if people follow my Instagram, then they'll see what comes about. I love it. And as an entrepreneur myself, as having this podcast, I can relate to that of how much it can actually affect because a lot of times all these, you called about you called it monkey wrenches, you know all these blocks end up kind of coming into our life that we're like, why is this showing up again? why this And it's usually just emotional things that are not allowing us also to flow in our own
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work and our own ah pursuits, the, the, kind the aspects of worthiness component that come a lot into play in, in our, in our, you know, feeling worthy and all, ah ah there's so many layers where that could happen, right.
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Within that journey of, of growth. Absolutely. Yes. Well, thank
Connect with Jennifer Schrappi
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you, Jennifer. And now how do people find you? Tell us your Instagram account as well as your website. And I'll make sure to link it ah in the show notes.
00:36:20
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Sure. So Instagram is Jennifer Schrappi LPCC. And for the heal your money stuff and calm your life, it's healmoneystuff.com.
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And for more information, people can always go to jenniferschrappi.com. Perfect. And if you're in the Ohio area, you can also do one-on-one therapy with any of the clients as well.
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Well, with that, I am at present not taking on new clients, but I have whole team of clinicians who are. Okay. Okay. So your clinicians will do so. You will, you will refer them to people that can. Okay. yeah That's like, okay. Thank you so much again, Jennifer. Thank you for sharing your insights. A lot of good tips too, as to how people can really help themselves. And if they start seeing, if, as as if, za if while you're listening to this, you realize, and
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ah that you can identify with some of the things that we mentioned, seek for seek for help because there is support out there. So just make sure that you pay attention to these signs so that they don't end up escalating into something that is harder for you to kind of climb down from.
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So thank you again, Jennifer, for bringing awareness into this city into this matter as well as a lot of tips. Kendra, thanks so much for having me. It's been great having this discussion with you.
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Thank you, Jennifer.
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