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210 - Hot Rod (2007) w/ Noah East
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“I used to be legit. I was too legit. I was too legit to quit… but now, I'm NOT legit. I'm unlegit. And for that reason, I must quit.”
It's Thanksgiving and we like to party! This week, we're joined by returning guest, Noah East to talk about this late-aughts comedy cult classic and with it, formative Columbia House Records, Hot Rod vs. Popstar, reimagining classic stories in a modern context, and a rundown of the performances from Isla Fisher to Jorma Taccone!
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Transcript
Introduction to the Podcast
00:00:22
Speaker
A franchise right below will make us rich beyond our wildest dreams. Hello, hello, and welcome to the disenfranchised podcast, where that podcast's all about those franchises of one, those films that fancy themselves full fledged franchises before falling flat on their face after the first film. I am your host, Stephen Foxworthy, and I like to party.
00:00:44
Speaker
ah Joining me today, as always, a man who would rather die than live in a world where he can't kick my ass. It's Tucker. Hey, Tucker. Hello, Steven. How we doing? how No, how are you doing? i'm I'm well, how are you doing? Fantastic. I'm good. I feel great. Cool. Just yeah yeah keep the fists away from the money maker. That's all I ask. Yeah, dude. Never sneak a man who survived a chemical fire. No, no.
00:01:15
Speaker
And also joining us today, Jack of all trades, really. ah You might know him from the Film Harmonic podcast or our episode on Annihilation. And I hear one time, he manned a flamethrower. ah It's Noah East, hey Noah. Hey guys, how's it going? Not bad, how are you? I'm tremendous, really terrific.
00:01:37
Speaker
And Noah, we are on our Annihilation episode. We talked a number of other movies that you would love to cover, I think maybe afterwards. And the movie that we're discussing today was top of your list. We rushed it onto the schedule and the time has come.
Diving into 'Hot Rod' (2007) Discussion
00:01:54
Speaker
Noah, what movie are we talking about today? I've been waiting.
00:01:59
Speaker
with bated breath for you to get ahold of me and say that you are ready to talk about 2007's Hot Rod, directed by Akiva Shafer. Directed by Akiva Shafer, written by Pam Brady ah with ghostwriting credit from Mr. Seth Meyers, starring Andy Samberg, Yorma Taccone, Bill Hader, Danny McBride, Ila Fisher, Sissy Spacek, Ian McShane, Will Arnett, Chris Parnell, Chester Tam, many others.
00:02:29
Speaker
What a cast, gentlemen, dare I say it. What a picture. Boy, what a picture. Yeah, I was um really fascinated last night when you told me that you were watching it for the first time. Yeah, i never seen this movie before. Because i assume the mine too I assumed that if you had it in mind to do on this show, it would be because you were already a fan of this.
00:02:54
Speaker
I probably nagged him is how it happened. I probably nagged him enough. That happens a lot. A lot. A surprising amount of episodes ah get pushed forward due to my nagging. Correct. And one of the reasons that it was fascinating to me was because this is one of many movies that I have kind of a history with in terms of like asking people when was their first time seeing it. And it turns out that your first time seeing it was last night. Last night for this recording, yes. my partner and i were We were watching it at the same time only I was watching it for about the 15th time where you're watching it for the amateurs first. My partner and I sat down to watch this movie. She was not amused. I was very amused um was kind of where that delineation fell. So
00:03:41
Speaker
I don't know, there's no accounting for taste, I guess, but um ah but you know i have I have questionable tastes in movies anyway. so um But no, i I thought this movie was hilarious. And i um honestly, my biggest takeaway from the end of this movie was I could have been watching this thing for over a decade. like i i could have I could have had this in my life for longer. All that wasted time, Steven. I mean, and I gotta start living now is really what it comes down to.
00:04:09
Speaker
It's also funny that you bring that up because it kind of bifurcates ah two things that I wanted to talk about. and That is, you know last night, I told my wife, hey, I got to watch this tonight. I got to rewatch this. Do you want to watch it with me? It's a sub 90-minute movie. Yeah. She was like, no I'm okay. I'm going to catch up on something else. you know I've seen it before. and I was like, look yes, so have I. but like that's infinitely rewatchable. it is And I think that i think that that that informs a little bit about like this film's particular target audience.
00:04:45
Speaker
are infantile boys like us. It's a very dude heavy movie. It's a very dude heavy movie. And I think that's kind of, but it does inform you a little bit about the person that when you meet someone like Tucker, for example, who's also a big fan of the film, it informs a little bit for you about that person being like, I think I can ride with this dude.
00:05:13
Speaker
You know, at least we at least have this on our back pocket, that kind of thing. So we we have ah you know some people would say they have breakfast at Tiffany's. ah yeah we We will have a hot rod. I would say what about breakfast at Tiffany's, Stephen? Well, I'm about it. I said, I think I remember that film and this article, I think we both kind of liked it. Well, that's I think of it was like, yeah, that's that's one thing we've got. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic.
00:05:43
Speaker
I mean, so it's the look, you can't say that we've got nothing in common, right? No common ground to stand on, or that we're falling apart, right? Wow, we're still going. Wow. Wow. No, love it. Please continue. We hit you we've stumbled deep into some blue something is what we've done right now. We really did. We went from the chorus into the verse. Yes. That's the columbias Columbia House CD you didn't send back.
00:06:09
Speaker
um You know, that's the that's the one that and Sister Hazel. Oh, I mean, well, don't forget about Eve six and Marcy Playground. I mean, it is hard to say what it is I see in Sister Hazel, but that thing even finally someone gets me. ah But that Marcy Playground CD, ah it it holds up. I still have that in my vehicle. it's It's a good one. Like Sex and Candy. It's a weird thing because Sex and Candy is so different than the rest of that record.
00:06:39
Speaker
Yeah, but even when people it is a good song, but I think when people listen to the record, they're like, oh, this is kind of more abrasive than I thought it was going to be based on Sex and Candy. So they just I was I was thinking about that song the other day when I was hanging around downtown by myself.
00:06:54
Speaker
Yeah, dude. Yeah, yeah we I mean, we as much as I love Hot Rod, we could just talk about Columbia House specials from the 90s. Hey, my favorite band of all time still is the result of a Columbia House CD I forgot to reject. Silverchair? The Cardigans. Oh, well, that's a really good album, though, so. It was a first band on the moon. yeah I mean, they're they're only one that anybody gave a shit about in the US.
00:07:23
Speaker
That was a really good album though. That next album was actually pretty good too, but a I to say their records get better the more time goes by and they're the perfect band because they kind of switch genres every record. Like their first record is total like 60s French pop, like with a little jazz in there. And then first band on the moon is is kind of this anti-pop.
00:07:47
Speaker
And then they go into electronic grunge and then they start hitting that alt country, adult contemporary shit. And then they take that, but make it heavier. Like you make a card, you make a playlist of all cardigan songs. You're never going to get bored because they switch, switch genres ever so slightly with every record.
00:08:07
Speaker
So what do we do? Do we just edit this out or? No, no, absolutely not. The editor. So it's this is canon text right now. OK. Staying in. This is Tucker lore, so it stays in. I see. Well, you'll hear no complaints from me more.
00:08:26
Speaker
um So Noah, what is your history with Hot Rod? When did you first engage with this movie? What did it what is it that led you to this movie? how what you What is your continuing relationship with this movie? Why did you suggest we cover this movie? Like lay it all out for us.
00:08:42
Speaker
So I'm glad you asked that, Steven. So it was around, two this film came out in 2007, so it was around 2008 that um you know me and some friends, like a large group of friends, we used to meet up at one of our friend's house, and it was a lot of couples, basically, but we would get really, really, really stoned.
00:09:09
Speaker
and we would just watch movies and um one day it was you know up for grabs as to what should we watch and somebody recommended hot rod and based on the ads and everything i was like no come on you guys this looks so stupid can we watch something else let's watch something good you know like i don't even care it could be like shoot them up with Clive Owen i don't know i mean just something good man ah the story you know And but of course I got vetoed and I was like really bummed like kind of pouting because I just thought this looks so stupid and About ten minutes in I realized that was probably the studio's fault more than The films because I was like wait, is this is actually kind of good or am I just that high? And then about a half hour and I was like, holy shit. I think I'm in love with this movie and um I currently have it
00:10:03
Speaker
somewhere snug in the middle of my top 10 comedies of this century. o It is that funny. I love this movie. um And I've probably seen it between 15, 20 times. Nice.
00:10:19
Speaker
um I mean, i I have a similar kind of relationship with this man. I think the reason I didn't see it until last night was because I kind of always viewed it that I'd seen the trailers, I saw it, like sitting on the video stands at um at like my local video store back in Indy, it was never really something that stood out to me as something I needed to watch and always kind of looked pretty dumb. So when I sat down to watch it last night, I don't know that my expectations were super high. So that, I mean, when this movie grabbed me like five to 10 minutes in, I'm like, oh, oh, okay, I get it now. Like I understand what this movie is trying to do and it's
The Lonely Island's Influence and Cast Performances
00:11:01
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succeeding very well.
00:11:02
Speaker
Yeah, and and you know for me in 2008 or late 2007 when you know somebody had downloaded a pirated version of this and I saw it for the first time, ah you know i I didn't have the hindsight that you have to know like what all different careers some of these people went on to have.
00:11:25
Speaker
and ah how it's gained cult status by now. So, you know, that kind of probably softened the blow for you a little bit. A little bit. Yeah. Like knowing that, you know, Bill Hader and the Lonely Island have kind of gone on to be these.
00:11:40
Speaker
So i don't I don't know if I'll say cultural phenomena, but something fairly close to that. um I think the word you're looking for is iconic. yeah Iconic. and And if we're talking talking iconic, let's not forget, this was for a lot of people their introduction to Danny McBride. Most audiences hadn't seen the foot fist way and hadn't seen David Gordon Green's All the Real Girls. So this is probably most people in America's introduction to Danny McBride. Oh, that's a really good point.
00:12:08
Speaker
And for my money, Dan McBride and will hater or Bill Hader are two of the like Mount Rushmore funniest people of this whole century as well. They are true comedic geniuses. I would also argue that this is ah for a lot of people at that time their first exposure to the Lonely Island because they made this in the break between the first and second seasons that they were on.
00:12:35
Speaker
Yeah, so they had already had the Chronicles of Narnia, but that was pretty much the only- Lazy Sunday. Lazy Sunday, yeah. That was probably the only thing of significance that they'd contributed outside of sketches from that first season, so yeah.
00:12:56
Speaker
for for some audiences this was probably their introduction. Which I think is why you get Parnell as one of the few SNL guys crossing over here like it's him and Hader and that's about it. Outside of the island crew. Yeah and I think a lot of that's just because Lauren's production company Broadway did did produce the film as well, so. Right. Yeah, he's listed as a producer. I'm kind of surprised because Hot Rod feels like an SNL character. Like this, I was kind of doing a rundown of all the SNL movies recently, and like this movie feels like it should be on that list, but it absolutely is not on that list. Like it doesn't stand there. I hadn't thought about that, but you're absolutely right. In the same way that like
00:13:43
Speaker
through guilt by association and just vibes. It's in par with like Ron Burgundy feels like he would have been an SNL character as well. But yeah, you're right. Rod Kimball kind of does feel like somebody you could see in a sketch. I think I think I partially agree with you guys, because I don't think specifically Rod would be a good SNL character. But there are a lot of setups and a lot of one off scenes and gags in this film that you could totally see carrying an entire digital short.
00:14:13
Speaker
yeah Yeah, absolutely. and And some of that is some of these really non sequitur scenes that that happen. But some of it's just some actual like of the setups that Pam Brady wrote because I know Pam Brady wrote the first version of the film. And then the guys came in and did rewrites. So it was the the three Lonely Island boys and Seth Meyers doing rewrites on it. So it seems like, you know, some of the Pam Brady stuff even is just like that seems like an SNL sketch, you know, some of the situational humor. I could see I could see the the film that your most character
00:14:49
Speaker
um puts out in this movie, like that kind of film within the film, I could see that as a digital short and just with just that production value and all of that. i say It does have similar production value to a lot of the it would rival space cats. Yeah. up there Very much so. Yes. Yeah.
00:15:12
Speaker
her um Talker, what about yourself? when When did you first come across Hot Rod? I can see by the visual aids that you've set out that you are, i i dare dare I say, a fan of this film. um what's What's your relationship to it? When did you discover it? ah Lay it all out for us, man. Gosh, Steven, I'm so glad you asked. But before I go on with that. um May I ask Noah just very quickly, you were talking about ah you used to go to a place and get ah what I refer to as butt stonked and then like watch several films and this one became one of your favorites. Were there some others that stood out to you that you could like maybe one or two that you could name off?
00:15:58
Speaker
that uh uh that you watched at that that venue that venue itself yes oh in that state of mind both of those things yeah I mean, a lot of times you don't even remember. Oh, that's true. I do know you're like, wait, what? I will say this. That is the same place that I saw my favorite Pixar film. Which is? And that's Wally. Oh. Hey, there's a criterion of that. So it's got to be good. I know. Criterion 4K. It's on my list. So my shortlist, for sure. it's my It's my favorite Pixar film. And I love the Pixar movies for the most part. so Yeah, there was that. I remember seeing Edge of Tomorrow there as well.
00:16:39
Speaker
Yeah, kind of underrated, kind of. Well, and you're you're noticing that all of these are around the same timeframe, you know, like 2007 to 2009, you know? yeah Yeah. So yeah, but this is, this is, during those times, this is the movie that I equate with that time and place, because it's the one that stands out far more than any other, because I have such an axe to bear with this film, or to sword to so swing. i don't know the um If I keep going, it's just Malaprops the rest of the way. what What you're saying is if the boner police are in town, get me a lawyer. Yes. That's what you're saying? yeah That's what you're saying. Okay, I'm just making sure. I just, I was really curious because you kind of described that so well, like kind of put an atmosphere to it. So I didn't know if there were other movies that kind of stood out during that time too. Now it's, I think it's just one of those situations where I really remember where I was the first time I saw this movie. And it surprised me, you know, like if you have such low expectations for a film and it becomes
00:17:45
Speaker
something that that is among your favorites of a genre, you kind of do remember where you were during that viewing experience. Right. For sure. For sure. I happen to remember where i remember where I was during that first viewing experience, but first I have to go back a little bit further to back in the 90s. I was watching SNL on Comedy Central.
00:18:09
Speaker
Uh, they used to play all those old SNL reruns on Comedy Central straight up day and night, like in between everything. there You could probably watch 10 SNL episodes on Comedy Central in the mid to late nineties. If you really put the time and effort into it. And like, it was mostly your cast, Steven, it was like that sort of early nineties, mid nineties cast. Um.
00:18:33
Speaker
Hartman, Farley, Myers, Carvey, all those guys. Yeah. But they did show things from pretty much every era. So I got my my Eddie Murphy education and and so much more from that. But the first cast that when I started watching the show every Saturday night, which I still do.
00:18:58
Speaker
um Was during this cast. like Sandberg, Farrell, Migg. Yes, ah Dratch, Amy Poehler, yeah ah Maya Rudolph, yeah Fred Armisen, Bill Hader, Will Forte, Will motherfucking Forte. That is my era that I think is the pinnacle of Saturday Night Live. That's the only thing that this movie is missing. This is a perfect film, but it would transcend that if Will Forte were involved somehow.
00:19:30
Speaker
It almost makes you wonder if there was if there wasn't a part written for Forte and he just wasn't able to do it. but Well, especially especially because um he ended up doing Akiva's next movie, Magroober. Right. yeah so yeah Future episode of this podcast from a Gruber. I want to come back for that. if That's not spoken for. No, you're it's yours. You have it. You're on the list. i'm and I'm a bit of a Lonely Island guy because I too once was a comedy parody rapper at one point. You were. So I remember those. A frapper.
00:20:06
Speaker
A fr- a fake rapper, a frapper, as they call it. The boys themselves call it. A Lonely Island-esque, a little bit, so. I have an affinity for these fellas, you know? Now, when we do the Magroober episode,
Marketing Failures and Cult Status of 'Hot Rod'
00:20:20
Speaker
every time that we get deep into a conversation and start to come to the conclusion of it, can I just cut to an explosion? And Magroober! And then move on to the next thing. I would insist upon it.
00:20:33
Speaker
Oh, okay. Fantastic. I could put that in my portfolio. Yeah, absolutely. yeah You're probably gonna have to host that if you want to do the sound effects live. but So you can, nope. Nope. Put it in post. I'll decide it all in post. Do it in post. You'll be like, gosh, I hope that really cool thing I said made it in, because it was really close to the end of that part of the conversation. I hope I made it in. Are you gonna do ADR for it? Or are you just gonna do, you know, like sound effects?
00:20:58
Speaker
No. So what I think what I think that I would do a little BTS disenfranchised editing bay BTS here. What I think I would do is we would record the episode as normal. And then when I felt to the point in each part of each conversation where it was getting to the point to where someone was going to say the thing that really just kind of ended the conversation because that you really summed it up, you know, right before that hits.
00:21:26
Speaker
explosion, Magroober, and then just cut past all of that and immediately have the next conversation start after that. So all set up, no payoff, the episode? No payoff. There would be no payoff. And that you can't do a Magroober episode and not do that. But I guess what I'm asking is, are you going to just find some explosion sounds on the Internet or are you going to actually like blow some shit up?
00:21:51
Speaker
No, I'd probably take the audio directly from a MacGruber sketch. ah Probably. like You should even keep the fireworks in the bathroom. Would you like to light them off? I would I think that I would even keep like the studio laughter in there and everything.
00:22:08
Speaker
Because I mean, I'm a Gruber sketch that gets no laughs until that point, really, he got some chuckles because there's some funny stuff, but it's all set up. I realize that you're going to you have canned laughter on your show. I didn't know that. Oh, we don't know. Not usually. and yeah I mean, we find each other funny. So there's that. But, you know, be beyond that project that would be a fun editing project. But ah but no, and no, not normally. We don't normally have the laugh track.
00:22:40
Speaker
If we did, that'd be a good place for it. Right there. Right there where I say that. ah There it is. I look forward to the MacGruber episode, boys. Now, if I may continue. You may. ah So, yeah, that was kind of my cast. um But because smartphones didn't exist and like Facebook was barely a thing,
00:23:07
Speaker
Uh, at the time I had no idea this movie existed until it was available on home media. No idea. Roughly what year are we talking? Uh, I saw it in 2008, March of 2008. So it was roughly around the same time that I did, I bet.
00:23:25
Speaker
Yes. And actually, it was shown to me by my former wife and current roommate. um She was like, hey, this movie is straight up the shit. And I was like, I don't believe you. I haven't heard of it. And like, I'm a movie guy. So I would. What are you on about? I would know. I would be amateur. You know, you've got a plebe ah anyway.
00:23:52
Speaker
ah But like, so it's made to say goddamn plebe. Can we? Yes. Yes, please do. Please do. But don't but don't don't credit me for it because I try not to blaspheme because I know Joe listens sometimes. That's true. You credit credit yourself for that one, Stephen. I mean, they just have to go back and listen to this episode. No, I tease. But no, we watched it and ah and then That's I think when we decided that we were people who wanted to be around each other and shit was when we watched that movie together. Of course, as all things do, that came to an end some years later and that marriage was dissolved. But as I indicated earlier of her being my friend current roommate, we remained friends.
00:24:44
Speaker
and And you really have Hot Rod to thank for your continued friendship. I suppose so. Thank you, Hot Rod. Now have you have you and your and your current spouse watched Hot Rod together? Now Marv has seen Hot Rod.
00:25:04
Speaker
Just not with you? We have not viewed it together, no. He suggested it yesterday, because we did a double feature. We watched Bringing Out the Dead. I finally broke the seal on that 4K, Steven. Good. It looked good. It looked really good. and I came about that close to buying it, and I ended up buying something else instead. You got to get it, dude. Now that you're a fan, you're going to have to go back, and double back and get it. Just for the Mark Anthony performance alone by the 4K, Steven.
00:25:33
Speaker
Have you seen that guy in real life? Wait, what are you guys talking about? No! Bringing out the dead? Oh, I thought we were still talking about Hot Rod. Yeah, Mark Anthony is really good at that. No, we'll get back to it. Yeah! That was like a 4K version of Hot Rod? Yes, please. I'm waiting for it. Come on. Because the Blu-ray sucks. Just hold out for the Criterion Collection.
00:25:53
Speaker
look there it is the Here's the thing they've been throwing around. They joke about having a criterion collection of sketches, like digital shorts, like on the podcast, the Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast. They talk about like, if this, if this short is criterion collection material, and honestly, I would buy a criterion collection, digital short collection. I would buy the shit out of that with commentary on every digital short.
00:26:25
Speaker
<unk> be fantastic if it what just the lonely island ones yes yeah well they're the only ones i mean if it's if it says digital short they are involved once they got involved there was a digital short format existed briefly before they joined the cast. But everything after that that has the label digital short is in some way lonely eyelid related. Because after that, ah upt up through present day, yeah because I think even now, like, please don't destroy, they have their own kind of thing. Yeah, it's like a short film by. Right. That's why when this season, the first time that digital short logo showed up, I about lost my fucking shit. sushi glory hole we stand because like I knew Andy was back on the cast to play Doug. Right. But I didn't know they're going to be doing new new digital shorts. That blew my fucking mind. And last week's digital short.
00:27:24
Speaker
You guys, it's not just like really funny, but it's also a certified banger. I would listen to that song, I think, if it weren't silly. I haven't watched SNL in a couple of years. That's too bad for you. I know. I know. there There's been some good stuff this season. There has. day yeah but Maybe their first recurring character in years. who dumb as Well, you have Lisa from Temecula. Sure. But like.
00:27:54
Speaker
They've kind of switched off of the the kind of the character based comedy of late. um And which is, I mean, it's a bummer to me because I like the character based stuff that's kind of has always been SNL's bread and butter. Yeah, they've kind of pivoted away from that in recent years. And I, I do find that to be a bit of a bummer. But the the Domingo thing has kind of been Then you heard about this. It's her know it's it it's a bummer, Steven. But also, I think there's a reason they have to move away from that, because in in the in in most of ah SNL's run, you could do recurring characters. You could do the same sketch basically over and over with slight changes because you only ever saw them, you know, two or three times a year. But now YouTube exists. Right.
00:28:47
Speaker
and and they have to be learned. People are replaying these sketches. People are putting ah what's Bill Hader's old reporter guy. That's what the fucking guy. Oh, good.
00:28:59
Speaker
Herb Welch. Herb Welch. yeah Herb Welch. yeah The old reporter. You could watch a whole playlist of all those sketches. And I love those sketches, but they don't hit the same when you're watching them one after one. Because it's the same thing over and over. I used to watch Bobby Moynihan's Drunk Uncle. ah I used to watch all of those multiple times.
00:29:22
Speaker
The ones that hit for me, what's up with that? like that for For whatever, I could watch those back to back for hours and I would laugh every single time. Poor Lindsey Buckingham. Poor Lindsey Buckingham.
00:29:37
Speaker
one of One of Bill Hader's most memorable characters on SNL. Most memorable characters. I would also argue that for me, his character in Hot Rod, Dave,
00:29:48
Speaker
is an extremely memorable character look at you based on a real dude based on real dude i i am such a ah big bill hater fan like essentially based on two dudes yeah oh yeah Yeah, yeah. it's ah So ah the character of Dave is um the acting that Bill Hader is doing is based on a friend of Bill Hader's you when he was a teenager, basically the way the character is presented. But um some of the things that happen such as the the bench grinder
00:30:26
Speaker
shooting the metal in his eye when he was on acid, right, is something a friend of all the Lonely Island guys did. So like it's written how it's written. It's based on one person and how it's performed. It's based on a completely different person. But the guy who got the metal in his eye actually got it in his eye in real life, not like over here. Yeah. I found this acid, but I can't do it. I'll do it.
00:30:55
Speaker
He just floats off. Puts the hat on. Yeah. Floats off. Floats away. Love it. And just just the idea that the most logical thing you can do while you're tripping on acid is just work your bell grinder. Like. Yeah. Like that's just something, man. That's just. Can't let your mind wander. I guess so I've never done acid, so I really can't say. Me neither, but that's how I assume it is. so ah me neither but that's how i assume it is right that's what i'm saying you guys anyway so yeah it was a big deal for me this movie and it has continued to be a big deal for me i i watch it often it's it's
00:31:37
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It's one of the few movies that I can just put on on a loop all day and just like go about my business and pop in and be like, oh, shit. Another one of those is George Romero's Day of the Dead from 1985. You look like a repeat and just do my shit all day. And it's just there for me. Also, Pootie Tang, obviously. You do love Pootie Tang. Yeah.
00:32:01
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But anyway, yeah, I've probably seen this movie over a hundred times, I'd say, not that it's a competition or anything. but But if it is, Tucker would win. If it is, I'm obviously the winner. ah I also, I really need a place for this. I said I wasn't going to mention it because it's visual, but I need a place for this. Tucker's holding up the Rod Kimball stuntman for hire parties events poster from the film.
00:32:30
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Yeah, ah want part of me wants to just put it on a telephone pole on a street corner and just tape it there. I mean, make a photocopy of it first. Don't like actually put that copy. I could totally. I have a photocopier.
00:32:46
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So I guess my question is, why haven't you done this yet? I guess my question is, how many are you going to send me? As many as you want. Look, Steven, you have been the Delz next this evening because you have blown my mind this time, boy. Didn't you? Because I'm going to copy these a million times.
00:33:05
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and give them to people for free. I never thought that photocopying. Wow, it really is the future, isn't it? Photos. Isn't it the future? Just Xerox it. The future is now. Just put it in the machine and out comes as many copies as did you want. Make you new copies. You know, Xerox is actually ah the brand name. It's not product. It's like Kleenex. Like Band-Aid? Yeah. Or Band-Aid.
00:33:32
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Brand name association is what's that that's called. But anyway, that's my history with Hot Rod. I continue to enjoy it today. I watched it four times today, two times with commentary, two times without. What did you learn from the commentary, Tucker? Not a lot.
00:33:49
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You don't really learn a lot from the commentary. Actually, it's only his forty second time seeing it with the commentary. So right. Right. Actually, I've only seen it probably a handful of times with the commentary because it was on the DVD and I only had the DVD briefly because I borrowed it to somebody and they never gave it back. But then when I got the Blu-ray a couple of years ago, I have dipped into it more than a few times since then. So I may say probably with today, maybe six times I've watched it with the commentary.
00:34:19
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And I'd say if you really want to know cool stuff about this movie, check out the two episodes they did on the podcast about it, because this commentary is just like Akiva tries. He tries so hard to talk about this movie. But the other boys, Jormen and here are just there cutting up and doing bits and shit and like interrupting him constantly. Like he never gets to actually talk about the movie.
00:34:47
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Well, and it's it's very entertaining, yeah but it's not informative at all. Yeah. the um the It seems like the podcast version that they did with Seth Meyers, um they were both ah they they were all of them on the same wavelength because you didn't ah the jokes weren't as plentiful and it was a lot more insight, let's say.
00:35:11
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Yeah, I also watched ah some interviews that they did at the time. Those weren't super informative. ah There's a behind the scenes on the Blu Ray and the DVD that I was getting ready to mention that. Yeah, that one's pretty fun. It's fun. It's it's shot like like as if Kevin had directed it. Yeah. Yeah, that's a lot of fun.
00:35:35
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All of the, the bits that were recorded by Kevin in the film, a lot of what show up in the film that they show at the auditorium yeah are included on the DVD and Blu-ray as well. So you can see all the, not the dogs humping. You don't, you don't get to see that one. Well, because he was making that for his mom. For mom. Cause she's into that. She's into that. She's way excited. yeah Oh God.
00:36:02
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So did you have high expectations for this film the first time you watched it or or were you like me thinking like that kind of looks stupid? Well, i I really liked Lazy Sunday, but I really liked most of the digital shorts from the first season of The Lonely Island was on. So I was pretty much on board when I found out that that was their creative team. Yeah. Like I knew I was going to enjoy it. i Now, I certainly didn't expect a perfect film, which they delivered. That's what you got, though, yeah.
00:36:34
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That's what I got. No, I was on board like Ava. I liked the the lettuce eating and I liked um the doppelgangers. I liked that digital short, too.
00:36:47
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Um, there were a lot during the first season I enjoyed. Uh, so they were definitely, definitely on my radar. I just, yeah I don't know. Like the internet was one thing before 2008 and one thing after 2008 because of Facebook and smartphones, like the internet became a whole different thing.
00:37:05
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So even though I was on the internet a lot, like on my computer at home or whatever, this still never crossed my path. I had no idea this movie was coming out. I had no idea it came out. I had no idea that it was even on home video until this gal I met at a show brought it over to my house.
00:37:25
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I get the impression it wasn't marketed particularly well. That's kind of why I asked that question because I kind of wanted to get into that whole thing because it it it is notoriously a box office failure that just became a cult hit over the last few slash several years. and That was really a function of the studio's mismanagement and mismarketing of it.
00:37:51
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um Which is why someone like me, who's who ought to be the target audience for so for something like this, saw the saw the ads for it and was just like, that looks dumb, you know? And it's funny because stuff like Anchorman worked on me. Like I found Anchorman and Anchorman was made, and I found super bad even.
00:38:11
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which came out, like, I think the year after this. um Yeah, but both of those films made money. Because they were well marketed because they were marketed properly. Right? So like, I don't see why you would try to market this film different, ah any differently from either of those two. Yeah, I wouldn't have thought either. And yet, here and yet, and yet, that's what Universal did. So right.
00:38:38
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I mean, universal, not necessarily. those para It was paramount. You're right. It is paramount. yeah yeah and penagon you I thought universal because of NBC. That would make sense. Paramount because Viacom because Broadway, but also universal would make sense because NBC. Because NBC. And microwaves. But there it is. But yeah, no, you've got 100 percent. That's I don't know. It's it's.
00:39:08
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It's unfortunate because this movie is so funny because it does have, it has developed the following. It's just, we could have had more of these had it been.
00:39:19
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well-marketed. like Granted, it took us several years to get that Anchorman sequel, but we got it. We couldn't absolutely- Did we need it though? I'd argue for this. I'm glad that we're covering it, but I don't think it really leaves itself open for a sequel. I guess if it did well enough, I mean, it's Hollywood. If it did well enough, I would have gotten a sequel. Well, Kyla, that's my question. like like how did ah so How did you guys arrive at wanting to do this? because what what did this have have legs ah as a as a franchise starter i don't i know honestly in terms of stuff like this if there's a recognizable brand behind it you can pretty much parlay anything into a sequel
00:40:03
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That's true. um The Lonely Island is a brand in and of itself. I would say that it's a franchise. Like, I mean, you have this and then you have Popstar, which is, I would say, in some ways, a spiritual sequel to Hot Rod. I mean, the character that Bill Hader plays, Popstar is very similar to Dave. I could see this being future Dave.
00:40:25
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You know, there's a lot of a lot of similarities in the way that the the tone of it and the comedy of it, obviously, because it's on the island. Also, you've got shit like Bash Brothers, like, and there's still. Oh, God, I love that so much. The Bash Brothers I love so much. You know, and there's this is great as.
00:40:41
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The similarities between Popstar and this are kind of interesting because Andy is up front as the star, Jorm is second fiddle and in scare quotes, so and then Keeve is either like barely in it and directing, like Hot Rod, or plays a part but is missing for the vast majority of the movie. right So, I mean, there are similarities abound between those two.
00:41:08
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I mean, and that kind of seems to be there, at least theatrically for for films anyway, that seems to be their kind of group dynamic, for good or ill. Now they have within the shorts themselves and within the the music, different responsibilities and roles, but within the films, that seems to be the hierarchy as it were. yeah But yeah, absolutely. Like this is kind of the,
00:41:36
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the the original Lonely Island film, and then Popstar becomes, I think, the perfected ideal of the Lonely Island film. I agree with that, but I would say I think Hot Rod is better.
00:41:49
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i'm I'm with Voltron here. yeah like it like i mean Objectively, Popstar is a better film. but i think i think well i'm saying I think that the the faults
Comparative Analysis with Other Comedic Works
00:42:05
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that Hot Rod has Um, it works with in a way that it works for the film, making it subjectively a better film for me at least. So I can recognize that hot or that pop star is technically like they up to their game. They knew what they were doing and they kind of perfected what they were doing. But I still think that hot rod is the funnier film.
00:42:30
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I think Hot Run is the funnier film. I think it's paced better. I feel like pop star, as much as I like it, and I do really like it a lot, but it is a little saggier than this. This is a lean jokes per minute all timer kind of. well it' it's no You have to consider the genre. It's like the difference between UHF and Weird and Al Yankovic story. Like, is it the same kind of humor? Yes, but they're two different types of movies, so the pacing has to be different. And I would say in mockumentaries or even documentaries, you can't pace things like a silly comedy. You can't do it, no matter how silly the comedy is in that mockumentary. Look at Spinal Tap, for example. Look at like everything Christopher Guest has done.
00:43:11
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like you can't pace it the same and that's why that's why i'm saying pop star is better but i like hot rod better that was it makes it doesn't make am i making sense you are making sense i just don't agree and that's why that's fine that i will allow as long as i'm coming in loud and clear Yeah, as long as sense is being made. Yes. Then really at the end of the day, that's that's the most important thing. buts so um I have seen three of Akiva's four films now. ah The one I'm missing is The Watch, but I have seen Hot Rod. I've seen Popstar and I have seen Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers. I'm told that the reason you haven't seen The Watch is the reason most of us haven't seen it.
00:44:00
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which is because it was panned when it first came out. It absolutely was. It has a good cast. I mean, Richard Ayode is in it. Yeah. and i And I still haven't seen it. Richard Ayode, but yeah, it's it's perfectly fine. It's it's fine. it You won't be disappointed, but you won't be surprised.
00:44:22
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OK, it's not as bad as pixels, but it's I mean, it's way better than pixels. It's way better than pixels. Come on. Which I also haven't seen. But yeah. um No, you saw the three good ones, Steven. Yeah, it's what it looks like. Yeah. I'm just looking over his like director's filmography and he's directed the watches by a lot of shorts. But um yeah, I've only seen three of his theatrically or I guess three of his films because Chippendale was not released theatrically.
00:44:51
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Yeah, but it' still it's Yeah, it's I was pretty surprised at how much I enjoyed ah same i it. It really felt like um it felt I don't know. I don't think it was really a spiritual sequel to Roger Rabbit, but it really, really felt like that.
00:45:09
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yeah They, I mean, obviously they were trying to do some Roger Rabbit stuff there. Right. Yeah, so was a Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle, but like Chip and Dale, I don't know, they really, they lay it on thick and it's it really feels like a tribute, like in the best kind of way.
00:45:24
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Roger Rabbit is one of those completely see our previous episode on Who Framed Roger Rabbit. It's one of those kind of weirdly inimitable things that people still try to imitate. like People were trying to imitate that even at the time like Bakshi did Cool World. Like you've had when we covered that. but It's on the list, man. Yes. We'll get there.
00:45:44
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um I mean, there have been several attempts at imitating what it did. And MonkeyBone? Are we going to do MonkeyBone? MonkeyBone's on the list also. Yes. You couldn't even make ah Roger Rabbit nowadays. like it It was such so much a product of its time yeah and a moment in the Hollywood studio system. That would never get greenlit again. you would You would never have seen Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck written That's Spielberg. That's 100% Spielberg. and that is as pretty for spielberg like He gets in there and he gets in there. There's Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny. That's right. Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck and Donald Duck. Yeah, exactly. You would never have gotten there. There are people on both sides literally like counting the number of words that they say to make sure that they're equal. Like it's it's this whole very specific thing.
00:46:36
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um to make sure that and but you also get beyond even that you get characters from like the the Harvey comics and the Harvey cartoons ah Beanie and Cecil are in that motherfucker like yeah yeah Betty Lena Hyena like all these like characters from throughout animation kind of getting lined up and and put in this movie like like they all share the same world and that's I was talking to one of my co-workers earlier this week about why it is that I have this kind of love for shared cinematic universes and and crossovers and it's because of shit like Roger Rabbit and the cartoon all-stars to the rescue and the legend of the chaos god comics and Disney adventures magazine that I read as a kid like
00:47:28
Speaker
All that stuff, like, primes me for that kind of stuff. It's why I wore it. That's why I'm going to see the Poonaverse. I don't want to see the Poonaverse. I'm not... No, dude. I don't want to, but I know I'm going to be because I have this brokenness within me. No, dude. May I encourage you not to? What's the Poonaverse? Don't do it. It's the Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey. They're expanding that to include other... um I think the word you're looking for was exploiting.
00:47:58
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Yeah, exploiting that creatively, bankrupt exploitation pills. That's what you were doing. They're doing so much on picking the bones of the public domain, Pinocchio, creative type. Oh, are they really? And they're going to do a like a shared universe like Lars Von Trier. Yeah. Yeah. I would watch a Bambi sequel directed by Lars Von Trier where Bambi gets revenge. Oh, we were friends. We were friends until this moment. Oh, I quit. I quit the podcast. I quit the podcast. But only if it was directed by Lars Von Trier.
00:48:35
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Oh, yeah, i I I watched Dogville and that was all the Lars von Trier I needed in my life I hear that that he needs that easily his best film. I hear that's amazing. It's a heavy air quotes yeah i want to see you I Have I bought it at a half price books. It was on sale for like $3 and I was like, I like Nicole Kidman I will buy this movie I bought it and I watched it and I it was kind of I had a similar reaction to it that I had to um ah Requiem for a Dream the first time I saw it. Except you felt empty, right? yeah difference I felt kind of devoid of any hope and sanity after both of those movies.
00:49:21
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I'll buy it off you. I'll give i'll send you $3. You mail that sucker to me because I've never seen it. And we just did our best movies of 2004 on my show, the film Harmonic. um We just did that last week, our our favorite films of 2004. And I never got around to Dogville and I had to like preface ah got rid of my list with it. yeah i'll jo it i'll go long ago All jokes and judgments aside, if you are a Lars von Trier fan, that's You should see it, for sure. Yeah. um I don't love everything that he does, but I like most of his stuff. I just think he's a hack in general. Him and Larry Clark, just fucking hacks. I like Von Trier more than Larry Clark, let's say that. i That's fair. ah Noah, if you have movie, Dogville is currently on movie. I know, and I thought about ah getting the seven-day trial just to watch it. This is investigating for a while, then.
00:50:19
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yeah Oh, because you said you had that episode. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I didn't get I didn't get to put it on my list. So there are certain ah there are certain promo codes that you can use to get a full 30 days free of movie. So interesting.
00:50:34
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00:51:26
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love that. But seriously, movie sponsor us where we would love that nothing more than to just talk about all the other great films on your platform. Hey, you're only getting those two though. That's all you're getting. Yeah, just just yeah three be you call me at home. Call me at home. See the last episode for my home phone number if you want to just call me direct. That's right. It's in there.
00:51:50
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you hope You're not an Indiana number, though, because I've been getting a lot of robocalls from them. So every three one seven I see just like report to spam. I do. pay I do not answer a single number that I do not recognize. Dude, like what if it's probably 12 of them a day? What if it's your granny in the nursing home or something? If it's my grand i like my living grandparents? Yeah, my granny, my one granny, I have her phone number programmed into my phone. So and I my grandparents are all dead. and Yeah, but she's calling from the nursing home line. But she's not at the nursing home. She lives with my parents. Are we going to go through more talker lore here? No, your parents dropped her off at the at the nursing home and she's like, no, you can't let them do this to me. I need you to come get me out. This is not something that would happen.
00:52:37
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This is this is all very absurd. and and And I think we should just move on to the plot in 60 seconds. I feel is it time for the one that. No, it's almost an hour in, you guys. Oh, yeah, dude. Well, no, is this your first time? my My wife was like, how long do you think this will take? And I was like, can't take longer, than an hour and a half. That's I mean, how long the movie is. Oh, it can and it will. It absolutely can. Tucker was was fully primed to just quote this movie just straight through from the from the job. She's fine. She's downstairs what stairs watching farmer wants a wife. Okay, I don't even know what that is. Is that a reality it's a reality dating show ah in based in Australia, in where farmers are looking for for women who want to be their wives.
00:53:23
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Do they not have farmers only in Australia? Um, I don't think so. Or maybe these are the type of guys to get on there. There it's farmers only.au. Right. Yeah. And also, um, it, uh, it flushes backwards. So. Of course. Right. Yeah. Ask me if I've ever seen that show. ask um Hey Tucker, have you ever seen a farmer once a wife? Nar.
00:53:54
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Anyway, the plot in 60 seconds I hear is what we're going to do next. Is that, is that, is that so? um funny is that You can do this plot in 16 seconds, really. You want, you want to.
00:54:09
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go for it. I didn't mean that as a challenge. I just meant like, well you're the guest. So there's not a tremendous amount of meat on this these bones. That's true. There's not now we do normally ask the guests, but I did not ask you ahead of time because I'm a bad host. No, I mean, if you want to knock yourself out, would you would you be up for doing the plot in 60? Or should we consult the coin of justice?
00:54:32
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ah I'll do it if you want. I mean, I mean if you if you if you're up for it I mean you've only seen it once although it was most recently Tucker on the other hand has seen it nigh a hundred times Right. And so, you know, I feel like both of those are a little little unfair a little biased Yeah in either directions
00:54:55
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I mean, i can I'll have to roll the D6 of Destiny and put it between the three of us. No, I'll go ahead and do it. Tucker's got 60 seconds on the clock. ah So for the the uninitiated, this is the part of the show where we recount the plot of the film we're covering in 60 seconds or less as if that weren't self-explanatory enough.
00:55:13
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Um, and, uh, Noah, as soon as the counter starts, uh, your time will begin. Tucker will give you the 30 and 10 second, um, sound offs. Okay. I will start, I will press the button on the official egg timer of the disenfranchised podcast. As soon as you start talking.
00:55:33
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Rod Kimball is an amateur stuntman, a trade that he picked up from his dead father um who worked with Evil Knievel. He finds out that his stepdad, whose approval he desperately craves and manifests itself in trying to kick his ass,
00:55:53
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He finds out that he needs a heart transplant and his family simply cannot afford it. and so In order to save his life, Rod is going to train for and then ah perform thirty seven the greatest stunt that the town has ever seen. He's going to jump over 12 school buses.
00:56:10
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um And so he meets Ela Fisher, who used to be his next door neighbor. She comes around, joins his crew, and he's gonna go ahead and try this jump. Not without Pratt Falls along the way, and even maybe think about giving up. wrap it up be um And then at the end, he doesn't nail the jump, but they still raise the money to save dear old dad. And he kicks his ass in the end. Perfect time. Nicely done. Perfect.
00:56:39
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It was touch and go there for a while. You had me on the edge of my seat. I didn't know if you were going to get it all done. I was going to say that was that was an absolutely riveting plot in 60. I have lots of attention there. ah Suspensefully paced. I appreciate it. <unk> why you come back to me here That's why you guys just keep coming back to me. It it really it is one of the many services you provide as a guest. i'm a consummate pro yeah you You are at least that. Yes.
00:57:04
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um One of the look i'm I'm just gonna I'm just gonna I'm gonna put this out here. And you guys can tell me that I'm wrong. One of the gripes I had with this movie is that Ela Fisher and sissy SpaceX do not seem to have a lot to do in this movie. Your role.
00:57:19
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Um, so I think that Ela obviously has a lot more to do than Sissy Spacek. Right. And Sissy Spacek clearly is a much better actress. So Spacek is kind of wasted. Whereas Ela Fisher is, she's mostly fine in this movie. Her accent comes and goes and that can be a little distracting. because and That's a Fisher problem. that isn't That is an actual problem with the movie, and that is maybe one of the only negatives that I have about the movie, which is almost otherwise near perfect. Spacek is more of a function of the the character. It just doesn't have enough to do.
00:58:01
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Whereas Fisher actually is in it a ton. And one thing that she makes up for the accent ah inconsistency with is by being actually cute as hell throughout this movie. There are lots of shots of her just reaction shots to him talking to her and you're just like, she's looking at him dreamy eyed. She's just got this very ah adorable girl next door mousy look to her.
00:58:27
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that she very much plays the part and plays it sincerely enough that you buy it other than her accent coming in and out at times. Yes, I definitely buy that misguided admiration for sure. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I think it's good. I do. But I mean, I don't know. Looking at something, compared to something like Wedding Crashers, where she gets to just play full on crazy. Yeah, it doesn't feel like like her role feels relative. Like she's just the love interest here. Like it it seems fairly perfunctory. Well, and not only a lot for her to dig to really sink her teeth into here. Well, not only because and here's why not only is it because
00:59:14
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for all the reasons you just mentioned, but she's kind of the straight man in this. Think you think about the fact that that was what I was about to say, yeah yeah. She's kind of the audience surrogate in a way um because she's playing the straight man. Think of literally everyone else in the movie, even including c Sissy Spacek, who has a very comedic role as well in that she's ignoring every fight that they get into, you know, that sort of thing.
00:59:41
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So even she's dialed up a little bit, but everybody else is dialed up even more than that, if not all the way. Ella Fisher is the only one who's kind of just playing the straight man and doesn't react comedically to a lot of these things that are around. She's very sweet and patient and understanding.
01:00:00
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Whereas even Jonathan is just dialed up. um So I think that's why is that even on paper, there's not a ton for her to do comedically because everybody else is doing all the heavy lifting already. She has to just play it straight.
01:00:17
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which i don't know I just I know she's got the comedy chops so it just feels kind of a bummer to see her in such a thankless role you know exactly it it it reminds you that probably almost anybody else could have played that part they didn't need to get somebody as good as her they could have just gotten somebody if if you don't want them to be funny then get somebody who can actually like play the part a little better but self yeah avittas yeah who and and who who could at least do an American accent. um But what what she makes up that for in that is that she is just cute as a damn button in this whole movie. And so it really does cause you to root for them so much.
01:00:59
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And yeah while I would agree that she is a bit wasted ah in this role, I think it's ah it's a necessary role. The movie doesn't work without that role. this He's absolutely right. It's the same you were saying with Sissy Spacek. Unfortunately, she doesn't get enough time really to shine in this because based on like the deleted and extended scene, she had uh some really really good moments where she kind of had to actually act instead of just being sissy space second and silly movie which is fine like she can just show up in a silly movie and that's that's good enough collect the paychecks i see absolutely you're doing great they're they're not asking her to do like what she did in in the bedroom or you anything right or you're even carrie for that matter Yeah, yeah. And may I say that Sissy Spacek, I think this era, like 2000, late 2000s, early 2010s, she's, I mean, I don't normally go for the older ladies, you guys, but, uh, she's kind of fine in this movie. Sissy can get it. She's kind of fine. Oh yeah, for sure. For sure. In the same way that I liked her older movies.
01:02:09
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Yeah, absolutely when I watch the sissy space six older movies I love her as an actress, but I never really like found her attractive Yeah, I don't know this era sissy. She's like David Bowie like she ages like a fine wine Yeah, the way that you you know in your heart of hearts that Marisa Tomé will still be hot ten years Probably otter And and will in ten years will definitely be the age of the sissy is in this movie. Yes, absolutely. I Not that that gives any of these people value. No. We're just... But Tomei's kind of already playing these kind of thankless roles. Like she's Aunt May in the Spider-Man movies. Talk about somebody who doesn't get enough credit. I'm a huge Marissa Tomei fan. Oh, absolutely. One of my first celebrity crushes. My cousin Vinny, that is one of the most deserved Oscars that so many people just derived. Like she's so good at it. I love her makeup. No, she's great in this. She probably shouldn't have won that that against some of that competition, but I'm not gonna take it away from her cuz she's great in it She's so good So yeah, Ela Fisher is the weakest link here, but she is not that bad and she actually serves her role very well but man, Ian McShane is a is a
01:03:29
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Inspired a bit of casting fucking powerhouse in this movie and you're you're kind of looking at it going like what are you doing here? but like he's bringing the gravitas like a Brian Cox would to a role like this and he's fucking selling it. like You need someone who can just sink his teeth into something like this and just chew right through to the marrow, which is 100% what an actor like McShane is gonna do with a part like this. And he knows, again, he's he's well-trained enough to be able to find the comedy
01:04:04
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In the comedy is simply in playing it straight like by not looking for the obvious joke and by just playing it as Straight as he possibly can like I compare it to something like Gary Cole in Talladega nights Where that where he's very much leading into the comedy of it and McShane's not doing that here and I think this performance works a lot better for it and Yeah, he's got the eyes for it, obviously, and he's physically imposing enough for it to be believable. You know, I was saying that like, Ela Fisher's character that's any almost anybody else could have played that but a replacement level actor, you could have just plugged in there and it would have worked just as just as fine. Whereas McShane, not many other guys could have pulled off that and really like sold it the way that he did.
01:04:55
Speaker
I think Cox could have. That's a good example, but they're both Brits. I'd say Stacey Keith. Stacey Keith. You could oh they might have been a little old allowed to age that far. G.T. Walsh would have have come across as a little too much of a villain. You think so? Because that's all he ever plays. That's true. I see him reigning in. I don't know. This is the role that he's in. um He rained it in A Few Good Men. J.T. Walsh really subdued in that movie. Yes, he fucking did. Yes, he fucking did. Interviewer. Exhibit A. ah This is still the movie that, according to him, that Ian McShane gets recognized for the most. I believe it. Really? I believe it. Really.
01:05:43
Speaker
Even with John Wick, like this he was I think he was on Fallon like last year and he said that. He still gets recognized basically only for Hot Rod. That sucks because there's probably so many people just walking up to him off the street trying to kick his ass. No. Yeah, but he's old man. Young heart. Young heart.
01:06:06
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Yeah, I've always loved the emotion. and He got this role because the boys were fans of Deadwood. Yes. Yeah. Although, and I've loved him long before I ever watched it. would I didn't watch Deadwood until like 2015. My wife was like, we should watch Deadwood. I haven't watched that in a while. I was like, I've never seen it. She's called my copy. I've watched Deadwood. I love him particularly and and in many, many things, but particularly there is a um really quick piece called 40 inch 44 inch chest. Yes. Him and Ray Winstone. Oh, ah several others. And he plays. He does. Yeah. Joanne Whaley, Stephen Delane. And in this, Ian McShane plays a gay mobster.
01:07:01
Speaker
do You know what he does he does the same thing in um In sexy beast Jonathan Glaser's first film Mmm, which is one of my favorite films as well because Jonathan Glaser is one of my favorite directors I've not seen sexy beast. He plays it. He plays a gay mobster in that as well. Hmm Yeah, so Ian McShane has a history of playing gay mobsters But 44 inch chest is just an acting clinic that I recommend to anybody who will listen i too man and the The first thing I remember really seeing Shane in, this is going to be weird, the the television, the NBC TV show Kings, where he basically played King Saul.
01:07:48
Speaker
um ah like from the From the Bible and stuff. From the Bible literature? Yeah. From the Christian gospel and shit? It's basically like the King David story told in a modern setting. And it's got like a total of modern setting. Right. It's like a very early Sebastian Stan performance in that movie. He plays Jonathan. See, this is what happens when you let Baz Luhrmann get a hold of Shakespeare. Now, everybody wants to do things in a modern setting.
01:08:20
Speaker
I don't know, man. Marty, well, it wasn't in a modern setting, but I feel like it wasn't with modern sensibilities, the Last Sentation of Christ. Yeah, it wasn't in a modern setting, but it was a modern filmmaking style. And I really, i well, and and I mentioned that because I like when of when directors or writers reimagine such iconic stories like Shakespeare shit. Like some of that works. I really liked the Ethan Hawke Hamlet. I was but I was waiting to bring that up, actually. Yeah. I love that fucking movie. That's work. Some of them don't. But I just love that idea of just like sort of reimagine. You don't have to modernize it, but just even just reimagining something that's so set in stone, like the M F and Bible, crying is Emma.
01:09:08
Speaker
And, uh, 10 things I hate about you is the taming of the shirt. The Lion King is Hamlet. Is Hamlet. Oh, Othello. Oh, Othello. That's right. Oh my God. Was it? No, it was Mackay-Fyper. And Josh Hartnett and, um, what's her name? Stiles, Julie Stiles. She was also in the Hamlet with Ethan Hawke.
01:09:33
Speaker
and And in 10 things I hate about you with yeah the pleasure. Oh, and Paul Rudd is in both Romeo and Juliet and Clueless. That's true. That's true. Look at that, we did it, you guys. We made a very specific letterbox Stephen's going to make in like a week. By the time this episode drops, no, I can't promise that.
01:09:59
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um But i mean no i i Ian McShane is great in Kings. I used to own it on DVD. I'd probably get rid of it. I don't know. I don't know i kind of like flushed out my DVD collection tragically.
01:10:17
Speaker
but See, I watched Hot Rod on a DVD last night. OK. Dusted off the old DVD. I watched it on Canopy with my library card. Oh, well I do love doing that. I do love using Canopy. Libraries is is tight. Canopy is great. I agree. And if they would like to sponsor you guys as well. 100% or Hoopla? Hell, I'll take Hoopla. ah did They're not for profit though, because they just work with libraries. So they've got to be some kind of not for profit, right? Canopy?
01:10:52
Speaker
I don't think they can, or you can really sponsor. Can we advertise for, I mean, I guess you could, but that would be more of a PSA than an advertisement, but it doesn't matter guys. How about 2007 hot rod?
01:11:07
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how that ah no we time Can we talk about the anime bride yet? You guys please let's do it. yeah This is his third credited performance. It looks like.
01:11:19
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And all the real girls. Yeah. But first way.
01:11:26
Speaker
And then he. After this, he kind of starts taking off. It's super bad. He uncredited. the role he had super bad He had a run right after super bad. 2007, he's in the Fairly Brothers remake of The Heartbreak Kid.
01:11:44
Speaker
Drobit Taylor in 2008. Pineapple Express, I think, is the one where he really pops. But then the same year, he does Tropic Thunder, which is where I first see him. I fucking love Tropic Thunder. Which is a repeated joke from this movie, yeah what happened to him in that movie. In this movie, he blows it up too soon, because he can't hear what Dave is saying. And in Tropic Thunder, that the exact same thing happens. That is how that movie begins. Yeah, they how that and these two movies are.
01:12:14
Speaker
And his character in this is very similar to his character in that as well. It's the explosion. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah. yeah ah He's in ah ah fanboys in an uncredited role. Observe and report, aka not Paul Blart. He's really not Paul Blart. It gets brutal, you guys. Yeah, it does. He's wild on that movie fluctuates. You don't even know where you are. No. Wow. It's nuts. Future episode of his podcast, Land of the Lost.
01:12:44
Speaker
with Will Ferrell. You're missing that. You're missing that. You're missing that too, yeah. Okay. um He does Academy Award-nominated film Up in the Air. Yeah, he plays a serious role in that. Yeah. He's in despic The First Despicable Me, the Todd Phillips film due date, and then Your Highness in 2011. Also in 2011, Kung Fu Panda 2 and 30 Minutes or Less.
01:13:13
Speaker
yeah oh you guys and guys like all the while he's doing eastbound and down as well right oh yeah that's a good show you like 30 minutes they left 30 minutes or less I really liked that movie until i I found out, like, I watched a video on YouTube about how, what it's based on, like how it actually ended. Yeah. like that dude That dude like actually died and like the writers of the film are like, oh, we didn't know about that, but they fucking totally did. And that's fucked up. It's kind of fucked up. That is fucked up. Like it's it's really funny, but like I can't.
01:13:53
Speaker
It's like how I can't watch Bill Cosby shit anymore. I can't watch 30 minutes or less. You can't watch Ghost Dad anymore. Leonard Part six. Forget it. Leonard Part six. No, for me, it's let's do it again. I used to love let's do it again with him and Sidney Poitier. Oh, yeah. That was man. I love that fact that if Bill Cosby weren't a piece of shit, it would probably be my top 10 favorite films of all time. Wow. Yeah. Well, this was what this was right in that era when I was thinking that Dan McBride
01:14:28
Speaker
might be, at that time I said he was like one of the three funniest people on the planet and that list was him, Seth Rogen, no my Mount Rushmore was him, Seth Rogen, Larry David, and Louis C.K.
01:14:47
Speaker
and Bill Hader. So those five, those were the five. And now it's the same, you just drop, ah drop CK off of there. got kaka or ck And some other people have, you know, have moved up the ranks, but those guys are still some still to this day. I mean, we're pushing almost 20 years later, still um among the absolute funniest people on the planet. Yeah.
01:15:13
Speaker
m Yeah, McBride is great. i'm My partner is a big fan of This Is The End. Yeah, I love This Is The End. That movie is hilarious. And he's absolutely the best part. I call him chen Channing Tate Yum. The very introduction scene of his when he wakes up in the bathtub and does the walk. That's one of the funniest scenes in a movie period.
01:15:40
Speaker
He is so funny in that movie. So damn funny in that movie. I just go for it. I just everywhere. Vice Principles is great. And of course, like just items I love the Righteous Gemstones. That is one of my favorite shows. I love that show. This is another pop star hot rod situation where like I understand and respect the fact that the Righteous Gemstones is a better show on every level compared to Vice Principles.
01:16:08
Speaker
But damn it, you guys, I just love him and Walton Goggins in that show so much. I love both of them and the way that they, how effective they are apart and together. Like, I love him and Walton Goggins and the Wrenches gemstones like i'm Uncle Baby Billy. Come on now i see it now. And I'm an eastbound and down guy, I think.
01:16:30
Speaker
that's that's the pinnacle we've we've got we've got all our bases covered this episode yeah fucking get it now along the same lines i think that bill hater is an actual comedy genius, whereas Danny McBride is a very funny dude. He's an extremely funny, graded improv. Bill Hader is like on another level. He's our generation's Steve Martin or something. like oh he is He is an actual genius, what he's capable of doing. you know like His Stefan character on SNL.
01:17:04
Speaker
Nobody else would have been able to pull that off. He's played so many different characters. Does it rarely breaks character? He can imitate anyone. He does improv, he writes well, he's a true genius of the comedy. And a credible impressionist. Exactly. And he's incredibly intelligent. And that's not to say that Danny McBride isn't, but you can tell a guy like Hader gets it on multiple levels and is really doing art with a capital A with his comedy.
01:17:37
Speaker
for sure. Well, and not to not to downplay his comedic talents because they certainly are top notch. But but Hayter is a filmmaker at heart. He's a film fan. He's a filmmaker comedy for him, even in the early days was a means to an end.
01:17:54
Speaker
Yeah. He wants to get into filmmaking. And if you've seen ah some of the later seasons of Barry, you'll see what he's capable of as a filmmaker. He's a rex the entire final season. not Not only is he a comedic genius, but this motherfucker could be the next Scorsese. Like this guy, he's he's tuned into that shit. Yeah, he really and truly is. i've I've said that I think he is the greatest talent, overall talent that SNL has ever had.
01:18:24
Speaker
I believe that. ah Of all time. I would not dispute that. I agree. And though she's not in this movie, I would say right beneath him is Kristen Wiig, but we could save that for when I talk talk about Magroover with you guys. Yeah. So you're ah you're a big Skeleton Twins fan then. I've actually never seen Skeleton Twins. It's the two of them together. I know. I know. I know. And I've still never seen it. And it's likeng like the two best ah SNL cast members of my lifetime. Yeah.
01:18:52
Speaker
I've seen the lip-sync scene, and it is it's it is transcendent. I'm still very much looking forward to seeing it. Good luck. tucker Tucker, not a big fan. But yeah, I think i think with the Hader was obviously more recognized because he was already on SNL. but That was very early in his film ah filmography,
01:19:16
Speaker
you know in his journey as a film actor. and um Those guys are both just exceptional in this movie, especially McBride. He's the most quotable in this movie. you know i mean I have a like a list of topics I wanted to talk about, and like half of them are McBride.
01:19:37
Speaker
you know, like, I've been drinking green tea all goddamn day that that whole bit. Hey, little girl, I don't want cherry it upsets my stomach. You know, that stuff like that. Like, it's just, there's so so many in the church every Sunday. You bring out the demons of me.
01:19:53
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May I may i interject and say that the man that he beats up in that scene is Kane Hodder's protege, the man who plays Jason in Freddy versus Jason and the life of me, I can't fucking remember his name. Interesting. ah But yeah, that's the guy and.
01:20:14
Speaker
like Kane. He was kind of Kane Hodder's understudy in the latter Friday, the 13th films. And then when in Freddy versus Jason, they decided ah to go with someone taller. Ken Kursinger is the there you go. Yeah, that's the guy they went with him because he's a huge dude. He's a huge one. Yeah. Also in Stan Helsing, the Scott Derrickson, the day the Earth stood still.
01:20:44
Speaker
The Brendan Fraser journey to the center of the earth. Oh no, no, not even that one. He's in the made for TV one with ah Ricky Schroeder and Victoria. What a downgrade. Geez Louise. That was rough. Like at least in the TV Herbie, you got Bruce Campbell. Golly. Right. Woof. Big damn oof right there. Ooh wee.
01:21:09
Speaker
But he's ah also a stumper a stunt coordinator. like He did stunts for stuff like Cabin in the Woods, future or ah past episodes of this podcast, X-Men Origins Wolverine and Watchmen. And The Incredible Hulk as well. He's just done has done stunts for for all that shit. so And while we're mentioning unique cast members, ah Albert, no. Who's the guy I mentioned earlier, Steven?
01:21:37
Speaker
Tell me. Steven Altman. Yes. Yes, Steven Altman is the production designer in this film, and he's also the photographic representation of Rod's dad, and he is Robert Altman's son. So that's fun, right? isn't Yeah. Isn't that fun? I feel like that's fun. I agree. He's also a production designer on Gosford Park, so come on. Come on. I mean, come on. Gosford Park, a beautiful movie. Exactly. Yeah.
01:22:08
Speaker
Why did, why did beautiful mind win best picture over Gosford park? Uh, because we don't know. I don't know. They, they felt like they owed a life debt to Ron Howard. They don't. They don't. They really don't. Is better than a beautiful mind.
01:22:24
Speaker
ah Parenthood is better than a lot of things sir hes shouldn't Anything he should have wanted for Apollo 13 and they didn't even fucking nominate him So like that's really what it comes down. Wait, are we talking about Ron Howard now? Yes, we're talking about Ron Howard. Nice Look Clint Howard i Like move out plug a hot rod you guys let's save the our talk for when
Spotlight on Andy Samberg's Career
01:22:46
Speaker
we cover ice cream man So, you know, we haven't even discussed Andy Samberg yet. We actually hot rod and
01:22:57
Speaker
Um, Sandberg is, I'm not a big fan of his film work, by and large. Honestly, you haven't seen Palm Springs. That's the one. ah Okay. That's the one. Palm Springs is fantastic. Palm Springs is a wonderful film. Palm Springs is one of my favorite comedies of the last few years. Like it's got staying power also. Like talk to me in 10 years and I'll tell you that Palm Springs is like one of my three favorite comedies of the last 10 years, probably.
01:23:27
Speaker
But I'm talking like the Hotel Transylvania films. I'm talking That's My Boy. um Yeah, he's he's doesn't bat a thousand. Let's be honest. No. um But I know you probably love him in Briggs Beiber, which is a Tucker. I know that's a movie he's in that you love. He's in that a bit. Yeah. And I do love that movie. I'm a huge Briggs Beiber fan, because I'm a huge Kyle Mooney fan, because I think he's another one of the funniest people that's ever been on SNL.
01:23:57
Speaker
Are we, I think we just became brothers. Yeah. big co half yeah um So are you coming back for the Brigsby Bear straight up then? You're doing Brigsby Bear? For straight up. Yeah. For straight up. That's where we go. That's where we go off. off off um off-script off format yeah off-format that's the word when are you doing it because he has a new movie coming out in just a couple weeks no you're right and actually there was a um we're doing it January 2026 perhaps I will have seen y2k by then
01:24:33
Speaker
Yeah, Y2K comes out next month. I would hope so. And there was actually... Ooh, we're doing... I'm excited for January. Yeah, I love Bricks be Bare. That was in my top 10 of... I mean, we could do it this upcoming January, but we'd have to move bodied, Tucker, and I know you've been wanting to do bodied for a while.
01:24:51
Speaker
I was thinking, could we do it in July? Because I love six degrees of separation, but like I would really much rather do Bregsby bear. So if you can put that on July 31st of 2025, be done. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. And also, yeah, put no on there too, for sure. Definitely penciling Noah in as guest right now. Can't wait to rewatch Bregsby Bear. I don't think my wife's seen that one.
01:25:15
Speaker
I definitely have not seen that one. So I saw that um in a three movie day where I went to the theater and saw three movies in a row. Oh, my. I saw it at the theater. I'm so jealous. Yeah. And I don't. I'm pretty sure it was. What was the first one? I know it was Bricksby Bear was the middle. And I think it was Baby Driver, Bricksby Bear. And then I don't remember what we ended with.
01:25:44
Speaker
But it was a hell of a triple feature. Nice. Yeah. Nice. It's the Bricksby Bear was strangely another one like this, even though it should have been in my purview. Like I didn't know about it until way after it had come out. So I didn't really have a chance to see it at the theater because I didn't know it was oh out. See when the ads, when the ads came out for Bricksby Bear, I was like, again, the opposite of this. It was marketed really, really well. And I was like, that looks fantastic. I'm it. I must not have been on the right websites then. Damn.
01:26:21
Speaker
Great movie. Great movie. They got my money, though. I bought the Blu-ray, so they got my money. Yeah. And if they need more, I'll send it to them. I'll watch it on streaming if it comes around. So back to Sandburg. Man. Who is in Break, Speak, Bear.
01:26:37
Speaker
Yeah, he's so good in this, obviously, like, um he he gets that right tone of like, you he's obviously he's playing rod as a man child. right But he does very well.
01:26:53
Speaker
Yeah, he's always done that well, but what he brings to Rod, and maybe some of it's the writing though, there is a sincerity to this character that you can't, because of it, you can't help but root for him. I think that's what makes it work. He makes it so likeable. Yeah. I don't think it works if he does it, if he's not grounded in that way.
01:27:15
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. like Yeah, he wants to beat his his stepdad's ass, but like you never you never like it for some reason, because he loses every time, you you actually do kind of feel sorry for the guy and you kind of want to see him win. You want to see him pull off stunts. you know There's this this dogged confidence and self-assurance that he has where You know, he's never successfully landed a jump in his life. And and every time he's about to do one, he thinks he's gonna he's he's going to like he's he doesn't even question it.
01:27:51
Speaker
Maybe the first time you've ever seen him question it is the at the end at the very big jump when he's like, oh shit. But every other time you just be like, don't worry, Denise, I've done this before. and It's like, you've never done this before. And by the time he gets to that last jump, like you kind of believe that he can do it too, even though he has done nothing to prove exactly that he's capable of it.
01:28:14
Speaker
It's just that that that dogged self-confidence in the face of and nothing but evidence to the contrary. I was going to say, however misplaced it might be, right? It is so um admirable and so endearing. And I think that not many other actors could have could have rid that very thin line the way that he writes it. Yeah.
01:28:44
Speaker
ah and on a moped no less very thin light of moped that pedals like that right? Yeah. Yeah. No, and I mean, I is this his best role? I would leave that to you guys. But well, it sounds like you guys might think that Connor for real is but But I do think that Rod Kimball is is his best his best role. There were some things that I saved in here that that he does that I just find so funny. um The way that he re yells shit right before the big long fall when he falls.
01:29:19
Speaker
That that whole scene might be my favorite part of the movie because he's doing like the flash dance like just dancing and flying and doing the kicks. and they know Never, never, never, never.
01:29:34
Speaker
The way the music cuts out right as he yells, shit, shit, and then just goes falling for the next three minutes. I was, yeah i it sent me. I hit a really guttural, like trumpet, like blast, like like just, like laugh.
01:29:51
Speaker
right when it happened to. Oh, yeah. um And then obviously he does this often. It's just one word. Things like when he wakes up from from when you think he's about to die and he just goes, Oh, mistake. Yes. Sandwiches. Yeah. Yeah.
01:30:11
Speaker
In the commentary, um they all agree to say sandwiches after he says huba stank because they pronounce it as huba steak. So some huba steak sandwiches, but then they all forget to do it. And ah it's pretty funny that they forget to do it, but then they remember to do it after they forgot to do it.
01:30:33
Speaker
Which, ah now that I'm describing it, doesn't sound that funny, but it was in the context of an hour and 27 minute of film commentary. it's It's pretty fucking hilarious. Also, within the ah physical media, you can access um where it puts footloose and hot rod side by side. Oh, that's fun. That's very cool. Yeah, that sounds like a blast. The ah the safe word is whiskey scene. My partner was like, wait, are they doing a family guy joke? And I'm like, this is that episode. ah That episode came out in December 2006. This movie, this movie comes out in
01:31:20
Speaker
um August 2007. They had already shot it. They had already shot it. They'd already shot it. So it's kind of one of those like um the episode of South Park where Cartman joins the Special Olympics and then the Ringer.
01:31:36
Speaker
Like it's that kind of like these two ideas happening kind of simultaneously to one another. It shows you that great bites think alike and there's nothing new under the sun. Right. Both of those things simultaneously. And I mean, Family Guy obviously got a lot more mileage out of that joke. um But yeah I mean, and and I think they they tend to like drive it into the ground a little harder than Hot Rod does. I will. I will forget it.
01:32:06
Speaker
I think um that it's they're two very different plays on the same joke. So
Chris Parnell and Supporting Cast Highlights
01:32:12
Speaker
to me, like. I mean, it's the same idea, but I don't really. Consider them like similar. It's kind of like Pootie Tang and Undercover Brother. Like there's some similarities, but like they're not in any way alike. real Well, they're both parodying the same kind of thing. So I'm going to pity on them. Exactly.
01:32:34
Speaker
Like they're not. It's I feel like it's that kind of thing for me. Yeah, it's not a day. What?
01:32:47
Speaker
Hot rod. I wish I had a fake mustache to put on right now. That's too bad to borrow my real one. you You do have a majestic, majestic mustache right now. No, I know for it. I love it.
01:33:01
Speaker
How do you keep it during the winter? like I rock the stash in the summer, but it gets too cold for my poor little face in the winter. I'm not an outdoors fella, so i the only time I'm outdoors after the weather drops below 55 degrees is just the walk to and from the car. There it is. I stay indoors. Yeah. That's fair. It's not my way, but damn it if I don't respect it.
01:33:30
Speaker
Not doing it. What what else have we to say about 2007 seminal comedy cult classic hot rod? How long you got? Yeah, I don't want to I don't want us to get out without giving um Chris Parnell his flowers and at least touching briefly on Yorba as well. So Yeah, well, if we're going to mention ah Chris Parnell, I've been wanting to say this the whole time, but I haven't really found the opportunity. And now that I've hijacked the conversation, I can say it. We were talking about how Seth Meyers was a writer on this film. He's credited as a producer.
01:34:05
Speaker
have But he did write all of Chris Parnell's dialogue. That's pretty much that's his main contribution to this film is Chris Parnell's dialogue and the boys say that like they asked him to write this on like a Friday and like Saturday morning before they woke up there was like 10 pages of dialogue for Parnell.
01:34:26
Speaker
like boy was on it. He was like, got you. have Yeah, just so good. And, and Parnell's God damn so good. Very underrated performer, Chris Parnell. Well, it's just especially in terms of getting a guy to do line readings very straight hu and and know the right tone to get them to still be funny when you're delivering them as deadpan as you possibly can. Like he does that kind of a master of that. He I think that is played to its absolute perfection in 30 Rock as Dr. Leo Spicemin. Yep. Like he's got Dr. Spaceman. He's got that like that is so
01:35:17
Speaker
Perfect his delivery of just the most absurd things like he does it to some degree in like Anchorman and and this even like he's doing some pretty absurd shit here walk hard what yes walk hard, absolutely, but like I don't think that ever, he ever does that quite as well as he does in 30 Rock. And I think that's Tina Fey going, you do this really well. That's just going to be your whole character. Go ahead. Well, if you insist.
01:35:47
Speaker
i think that ah krista I think it ah Chris Parnell has a very unique voice and I mean that in a way that he's a unique performer and that he literally has a unique voice but I also think that he has figured out exactly how to use that in every situation that you could possibly throw at him and that's why like He gets a lot of roles where you need ah a good voice, but not a lot of them are really often the same. Like he does a lot of voice over work, a lot of animated shows and stuff. And none of that shit is really, he's doing the same thing, but he's like, it's his voice, but he's always doing something a little different. And I think that's for me, that's what is is really impressive about.
01:36:31
Speaker
yeah Yeah, especially like like you mentioned, like like Rick and Morty is is a really good example. you know like That's a little more heightened you know then stylistically than some of these these other things that we've mentioned, but it's kind of like a pitcher changing speeds. like It's the same pitch, but what really throws you off is when you're able to change speeds.
01:36:55
Speaker
And that's kind of what he's doing. like there Yeah, it's still the same thing, but the modulation is different. the He knows yeah how to fit the material and kind of adapt a little bit to to fill in the edges. you know he's ah He's a very talented guy, really talented guy. Agreed. Who happens to have a fantastic voice.
01:37:21
Speaker
And and the the the Calvin pissing tattoo bit is one of the absolute funniest. In a movie with so many good sight gags, this that has got to be the funniest sight gag. in the whole movie It goes on longer than you think that it should, but then when it's over, you're glad that it did. Right. And when he comes up to show that the AM radio... Oh, he's got a little floating carpet there. Magic carpet. Well, it might seem implausible, but I like to think that he had sex the night before. but A tiny bit of sediment has settled, causing the stream to bifurcate.
01:38:04
Speaker
It's just such a funny gag. Yeah, absolutely. Very, very, very funny. And I love that that's where he goes instead of like, maybe he's born with two penises, which seems like that would be a far more logical response, but whatever. um Not funny. This one's based in reality. Yeah. Everybody's had a sex and then went to pee and had like multiple streams. That's a thing that everyone experiences, I think so. Because they don't cross them.
01:38:33
Speaker
relatability. Yeah. Um, yeah. So we haven't gotten, we haven't talked at all about Yorma and we haven't mentioned much about Will Arnett. And I think those are the last two main performances. I mean, I love Will Arnett from Arrested Development. Like that's my kind of main, um,
01:38:56
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touchstone for him, consistently one of the funniest parts of a show that is just full of the funniest people to ever do it. um Like I think he he won that role over like people like Rainn Wilson, who also were like auditioning for that shit. And much better. I agree. Arnett is just that much funnier. Because that character, much like this one, has to be snarky and unlikable. And Arnett has that very, he's very good at playing.
01:39:38
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at playing smarmy and and villainous in a um comedically heightened way. and that is ah It takes his unlikability and makes very good use of it. Few things funnier than the than him saying dong bags in this.
01:40:00
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I completely lost it at his reading of No, babe, babe, no, wait, babe, yeah babe, kind does like babe, ah no way. I'm just I'm just rolling in laughter that whole time. I think that is such a funny escalation to the point of absurdity. And it I don't know why it works for me, but it absolutely does.
01:40:22
Speaker
Sullivan, you chode, I owe you a punch to the dick. They originally wanted Mike D to play Sullivan, but he was not available. Mike D? Oh, wow. Do we ever see Sullivan? I guess you do at the bar. Yeah, at the bar. He kind of looks like Brian Deloese a little bit. Also a little bit of BTS. Will Arnett was deathly ill during the entire two days that he was on set. He was on set for two days. That's why he looks so sweaty. They had him for two days and he was like deathly ill. Oh, no.
01:40:52
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And I think, uh, touching on, you guys were talking about, um, how Will Arnett's really good at playing Swarmy. I think that's why, um, he's so effective as Bojack Horseman because that character, even though that character evolves and grows and branches out, it's rooted in Swarmy and he's able to like take that and and grow with the character. It's really, it's kind of.
01:41:16
Speaker
Like I liked Will Arnett before Bojack Horseman, but I feel like that's what showed me that he he could be a really good actor. Yeah. For the best animated show of the of the century so far. Yeah. Yeah. So that brings us to your. Yeah. Your. The unsung hero of the movie, I think, if Danny McBride is the is the scene stealer, the the standout, and Rod is the main character. I really think that Kevin is the unsung hero of this movie. He has so many funny line deliveries. And those Heelys are a whole other character too. like hees
01:42:06
Speaker
The way that he is just so in love with Rod, just looks up to his older brother, half brother, so much, and just wants, he wants his approval in the same way that Rod wants his dad's approval. Right. And Jorma is just so fucking funny in this.
01:42:31
Speaker
Like the way he consistently indulges, uh, Rod and all, like in, in every respect, like is just, it's, it's both like pathetic and endearing all at the same time. Yeah. He, gets the right before the jump, he gets the new evil can evil outfit. Heaven's like, you're going to look like a champion in that Rod.
01:42:58
Speaker
There's like 90% of this movie is Kevin asking rod if he's okay Yeah, even during scenes where he's lashing out at his dying father. Yes. He's saying rod. Are you okay?
01:43:12
Speaker
Speaking of the scene where he he whips out the baton and smashes the lamp, the extended version of that is so much better. um I definitely encourage you if you have access to the deleted and extended versions of a lot of these scenes to check them out because there's a lot of stuff that got cut for pacing.
01:43:32
Speaker
that is some of the funniest shit, compares to some of the funniest shit in this movie. And the extended version of that scene is one of them because he breaks that lamp, he breaks the other one. And in the release, that's where it cuts. You don't even see him break it. You just see him move his hand and you hear the sound. But in the full cut, he breaks another lamp. And then he walks over to where the rest of the family is and he breaks that lamp.
01:43:56
Speaker
And then he goes to break a final lamp on the way out and Sissy Spacek picks it up and like yanks it away so that he can't break it. And so so Rod stomps off, comes back with a lamp. We don't know where he got it. And just throws it on the floor and breaks it in leaves. Is that in the theatrical version? No, it's a deleted scene. Because el leaded see I feel like that sounds so familiar.
01:44:22
Speaker
I mean, if you have the DVD, you may have seen it. I do have it. Maybe that's why it sounds so familiar because I haven't watched the DVD in many, many years. But there's another great deleted scene that's a callback to him banging on the engine. And he's just like playing with some toys and Kevin barges in and he like tells him that he has to knock. So he makes him go out and knock.
01:44:45
Speaker
And when he finally lets Kevin back in, he's in completely different clothes. The engine is somehow in his bedroom and he's banging on it with a hang hammer. And then a sandwich appears. I don't know. You just have to see it. It's it's fantastic. It's really fantastic. Quality shit. But that's what makes this movie so special is just the ah absurdity of the humor.
01:45:12
Speaker
um it's so silly and esoteric but at the same time so undeniably funny and smart at times like smart in in its originality and subverting tropes and things like that like on the surface it might seem really stupid as it did in the trailers before i ever watched it but once you've seen this thing for the first time like Steven, or for the 21st time like me, or the 101st time like you.
01:45:47
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um
Box Office Performance and Critical Reception
01:45:48
Speaker
it it's it's You kind of can't deny it, and that that's why it makes sense that it gained a cult following, because how couldn't it have? you know i think it came out I think it actually came out at the wrong time before films like this were appreciated. Right. um and The couple that with the fact the studio just butt fucked its release, just did not manage it properly. Right. And it it was kind of a perfect storm for for unsuccessful this with the only promotion that I could find online. Was the Lonely Island Boys and Bill Hader and um
01:46:38
Speaker
fucking, I guess Ian McShane was in a few of them. Danny McBride was in a few of them, but it was one of those like um syndicated interview shows that would be on at like two o'clock in the morning on like your local station. yeah That's all I could find as far as like interviews promoting this film. That's it.
01:47:00
Speaker
blame Yeah. I feel like that's probably why, I mean, it just, I never even saw a trailer for this movie. I didn't know it existed. And at the rate that that's kind of a few years before that was, like I said, when I started watching Saturday Night Live every week that it was new. So it should have been on my radar. I don't know. I don't know.
01:47:29
Speaker
Never even knew it existed. That that has to be poor marketing, right? And I'm the audience and I didn't know it existed. Yeah, exactly. I mean, absolutely. I mean, it this this movie comes out on August 3rd in the year of our Lord 2007. We're looking at a production budget of somewhere around 25 million. um It opens in its opening weekend.
01:47:59
Speaker
Let me get the ah site up here. ah It opens at number nine that weekend. This is actually a box office we've run down before because this is also the opening weekend of the Bratz movie. Well, and then that's kind of the point is that if you need any more ah evidence that the studio just dumped this thing, they put it in one of the two most notorious dumping grounds. Correct. Just just a fucking.
01:48:27
Speaker
Wetland in Northern, Florida where you try to hide a body like that's what August is as for studios dump shit And if it ended up in ninth place in a wasteland How do you how do how are there eight movies that did better than you this weekend? It's fucking August Do you think it would have done better in March? I?
01:48:55
Speaker
I think you do it earlier in the summer is what I think. Okay. You do like a later round around high school graduation. Do it in May. Okay. You know. Yeah, I could see that. I still I still kind of feel like this movie was ahead of its time because like there were people like um ah you know and also me who kind of saw it.
01:49:16
Speaker
after it came out, but pretty, pretty soon after it came out and we were sort of the pioneers, but I don't feel like the sense of humor that this movie has like caught up with everybody, everybody until probably five years ago.
01:49:33
Speaker
Or at least eight or nine years after the movie came out. Yeah. Yeah. Like I feel like it was, I, I feel like it's a cop out a lot of times when people say this, but it, I really feel like it was ahead of its time. It was a lot because you can see a lot of.
01:49:51
Speaker
it's fingerprints on other things that it's influenced. and You can see things that came eight or nine years afterward that you can definitely tell who who those filmmakers were influenced by this. right Their comedic sensibilities were influenced by this.
01:50:15
Speaker
And I would say like, you can see the influences on this movie too. Like there's, there's a ah ah Ron Burgundy element to like a kind of a Ron Burgundy, Adam McKay, Will Ferrell collaboration kind of element. Yeah, there's there's a little bit of a funny or die kind of thing going on there. There's also a Mr. Show.
01:50:34
Speaker
I got some Napoleon Dynamite vibes as well. Yeah. yeah It does have that that kind of like magical realism aspect ah that Napoleon Dynamite has, that Larsen, the real girl has, in which everyone in the town is much more supportive to him, then you they would be in real life. He would be ridiculed.
01:51:01
Speaker
yeah ah just like you know but But for some reason, this is this and those other movies I mentioned exist in a world where people are a little more understanding, a little more empathetic, and a little more patient right than they are in the real world. Definitely. Yeah, I completely agree.
01:51:23
Speaker
Um, we get, uh, the movie opens at number nine, uh, to $5.3 million and it's opening weekend. Yikes. Um, coming in at number one, also new this week, uh, third part of a spy trilogy. It's the born ultimatum.
01:51:45
Speaker
Opening at $69 million in its opening weekend. In second place in its second weekend, down from number one the week before, future episode of this podcast, The Simpsons Movie. Oh, I liked that movie. I saw that at the movie theater. I liked it. I also saw that one in the movie theater. I feel like that should have been kind of, well, never mind. But see, you went and saw that in the theater when you could have seen this. I had no idea that this was out.
01:52:14
Speaker
correct I had no idea this existed and you know the worst part about it is I was going like this was I specifically remember this as a time where I was going to the movie theater every week once a week on a specific day and even if even if I didn't know what was there I would pick something and I still had no idea hot rod was I watched hot fuzz three times at the movie theaters this same year or same era at least or like time frame. Yeah. ah So I feel like.
01:52:47
Speaker
I probably saw, like it probably said it on the marquee hot rod, but I had no idea what the fuck that was. I didn't see a trailer. There was no advertisements for it. Like I didn't see any on TV. I'm just saying, man, that's like nine million on your first week is, that's what you get when your target audience has no idea. He said five million. Oh, that's even worse. Oh gosh. Opens at nine. I feel like that's what you get when your target audience has no idea that you're even there.
01:53:16
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. At number three, another future episode of this podcast, ah Underdog, new this week, starring Jason Lee as Underdog. Oh, boy. We did a live action Underdog movie. That's a thing that happened and we all let it happen. 2007 was a wild time. ah Speaking of wild times in fourth place, we've got I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry. Hey, talk about a movie that would not get made. Mm hmm.
01:53:46
Speaker
and probably shouldn't have been made then, to be honest with you. Well, yeah. um in In fifth place, we've got Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. ah That's been out for four weeks and has made $261 million. Jesus Christ. Which one is that? Is that the second one or the third one? Fifth one? Oh, I don't care. The third one's the only one that I like. the Third one's the best one. It's really good. I get zero shits about a Harry Potter's.
01:54:13
Speaker
Yeah, zero shits. But that's a good ass movie in in sixth place. A movie based on a musical based on a movie. It's hairspray. Oh, wow. John Travolta in the divine role inspired casting. I love that. Still haven't seen it.
01:54:28
Speaker
Well, wait till you see it and then then you can tell me if you still think it's inspired. I ah musicals are risky. my My favorite film of all time may be a musical, but I generally don't like musicals. So and we've had this conversation before. It's just a little risky for me to I don't know. And I just really like the original Hairspray. So to add music to that, I feel like we'll just be distracting and stupid. So I'm just scared to see it. My favorite film from my favorite decade of cinema is a musical. So I feel you. It's ah I feel like you should go. 1972 is Cabaret. OK, that, yeah. All right. That movie is a fucking masterpiece. It is. It's your jam. It is a masterpiece. I do. It's great. It's your jam. In seventh place, no reservations. What if there were no reservations? What if no reservations existed? What if they didn't have any? That's the Mary Eckhart, Catherine Zeta-Jones cooking movie. Oh, that's Sarah Eckhart did. Man, this is getting depressing now.
01:55:28
Speaker
in eighth place. I was thinking of depressing an eighth place opening just ahead of Hot Rod in its fifth week. Transformers, which has so far earned two hundred and ninety six million dollars at the box office. I love that for them. I saw that one in the theaters as well. And then Hot Rod. And then in ninth place, we've got Hot Rod and in 10th place. See our previous episode on Bratz.
01:55:56
Speaker
Watch that movie for some reason we did Barbie we watched it for Barbie Yeah, we did it for the barbenheimer week because it's a movie about dolls that bombed ooh That's clever I like i you didn't seem to think so at the time as I recall but I'm sure I did Uh, but yeah, there's your, there's your top 10, uh, for that week. And in, and in 11th place, uh, Rata Tui and it's six week. So there you go. Uh, the Tomatometer score is rude as fuck. bru ah Tomatometer score 39%. Wow. Critics consensus hot rod has a brazen silliness and a few humorous set pieces on its side, but it's far too inconsistent to satisfy all, but the least demanding slapstick lovers. Oh fuck off.
01:56:45
Speaker
Fuck off. Golly. The meta score is slightly better at 43, based on mixed or average reviews from 27 critics. Tucker, care to take a stab at the letterbox review. Look, I know I'm putting my faith in the wrong group of people. you you you you You preamble this every week, I feel like. I want to guess also. OK. um
Personal Ratings and Podcast Plugs
01:57:13
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When he's done.
01:57:16
Speaker
Oh, I hate letterboxed. So, it's like, so do people not like it for a meme, but do they double down on the meme and just be honest about it is my, oh gosh. I'm gonna say this is between, oh, I hate doing it this high. Oh, I hate going past the 3.5. I'm gonna say between 3.5 and 3.9. All right, Noah, that's too high. I'm gonna say 3.2.
01:57:48
Speaker
The current letterbox ranking as of 10 14 p.m. Central Time on eleven twenty three twenty four is three point five.
01:58:04
Speaker
Oh, what is up? Wow. You didn't let me down letterbox. I assumed you would because you fucking suck. But you didn't let me down. And I appreciate that. It's a three point five.
01:58:16
Speaker
ah Noah, as our guest, out of five stars, how are you ranking 2007's Hot Rod? I looked at my previous letterbox review of it last night, and I gave it a four. And I think throughout all the years since watching it, I got to bump it up to a four and a half. It's damn near perfect. That's fair. Totally fair. Tucker, what about you?
01:58:42
Speaker
ah Similarly, when I first saw this, I probably would have given it a four. But as the years have passed by and I've noticed all the nuances of it and the small things that you notice when you see a film so many times, it's grown to a full fucking five. OK, that's no that's not a that's not a five out of five. That is a new category, a full fucking five.
01:59:09
Speaker
And like both of you said this was my first time watching and so just like the two of you I landed at a four on this one Will probably raise in my estimation as I watch it again I'm a four and a half and I'm a five so Fuck you Tom about Steven. So you hated it. That's what I'm hearing. Yeah, why do you hate this morning? This movie? There's so many good people in it Steven. I don't understand like Look, I'm the average is a four point five. OK, I gave it a four. and You gave it a five. Noah gave it a four point five. So the average is a four point five. There you go. I love that, which is nothing to sneeze at. One of the higher rated films we've covered on this podcast for sure. Yeah, dude. I'm yeah certain of that. Yeah.
02:00:01
Speaker
So there it is. That is our episode on 2007's Hot Rod, directed by Akiva Shafer. Noah, thank you so much for joining us for this one. This has been a treat as it ever is. Thank you. i i As long as I'm here, I want to plug the fact that my show is back. So the last time I was with you guys, ah we were still on our our long hiatus.
02:00:26
Speaker
But the film Harmonic is back now. We just put out episode 84 last night. nice And so the the format being, you know, the first half is new films in the theater. So we discussed A Real Pain and Amelia Perez.
02:00:42
Speaker
And then the second half of the show is a pick six segment where we discuss the six, our personal lists of the six best films in a different category each time. And we've been doing a lot of retrospectives lately. So we did the ah six best films of 2004 most recently. So yeah, so check us out the film harmonic, um wherever you get your podcasts, there' they're there. Definitely.
02:01:08
Speaker
Definitely. Yeah, absolutely. Check that out. ah you You have a social media presence at all, or are you just like? Yeah, we are at the Film Harmonic Pod. All right. On Instagram. Fantastic. Thanks.
02:01:21
Speaker
Fantastic. Yeah, I go. Definitely go check them out there. um As for us, we are the disenfranchised podcast. ah And yeah, you can find us on every well, not every but a lot of social media platforms. I can tell you definitively not Twitter anymore. um Fuck that deleted that app went to my ski. Oh, yeah, we're all over that place. See, it's blue ski. Steven, I still call it blue sky.
02:01:50
Speaker
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02:03:39
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You can link your Spotify and Patreon accounts. And I believe stream any of that paid content if you're a paid member from your Spotify. So I did not know that. That's a whole thing you can do now. Oh, yeah. You get ah you get your own RSS feed that you can connect to whatever your podcatcher of choice is. I'm into that. Yeah, it's really rad. It's pretty cool. um And i yeah, what else am I missing? I think that's everything, right? I guess.
02:04:09
Speaker
Okay, cool. Um, I'm your, i'm your the it's in the notes anyway. So that's true. It's all on the show notes. Just check it out. all um I'm your host, Stephen Foxworthy. You can find me on Instagram, uh, letter boxed, uh, and blue sky at, uh, Chewy Walrus. Uh, you can find the absent Brett Wright who is preparing for his, uh, stunt in which he plans to jump over.
02:04:34
Speaker
14 buses. um You can find him on Letterboxd and Blue Sky at sus underscore warlock or on Blue Sky at just sus warlock. Tucker, where can we find you on the socials these days?
02:04:49
Speaker
ah Same as always, Steven, you can find me on Instagram and YouTube at ice 909. That's I-C-E-N-I-N-E, the number zero and the number nine. ah You can also find me at tuckmugs on Instagram. That's tuck, tuck but underscore mugs, tuckmugs. And Noah, let me ask you, let me ask, can I ask you something just real quick? You heard about this. You seen this? Let me ask you something. You know about tuckmugs?
02:05:12
Speaker
You wear tuck mugs? Are your tuck mugs maybe a little lower? I have a mug in my hand right now, so I have a great affinity for mugs. And the if you're a mug lover like me, then there is no better place on social media than tuck mugs.
02:05:28
Speaker
It's true. You're not lying. And I would like to formally invite you in a very legally binding way to submit a guest mug to Tuck Mugs, possibly sometime this week. If you have a specific mug that you're a big fan of ah that you'd like to give us, maybe it's origin story or what it means to you, plus whatever you're drinking in it in the time that you snapped the photo to send that to us.
02:05:51
Speaker
Boy, that'd be rad. Tuckmugs loves that kind of shit. I do have a Cleveland Indians mug from back in the day that has like a big Chief Wahoo logo on it. Wow. But I was like, I can't get rid of this. This is going to be worth something someday. Oh, yeah. Some racist is going to really want this in 20 years. Yeah, it really are. Now, we're going to have to throw some disclaimers on there and maybe blur the image initially, but yeah, that's totally fine.
02:06:19
Speaker
Absolutely. No. And not only this, this invitation, not to make you not feel special, Noah, because I am directly asking you, but also anyone in our audience that is either a follower of Tuckmugs or who maybe might become a follower of Tuckmugs, you can send us a guest mug. Yeah. Same terms apply. Just send it either DM us to us on Instagram at Tuck underscore mugs, or email it to disenfranchpod at gmail dot.com.
02:06:45
Speaker
I feel like I haven't seen as much activity on Tuckmuggs recently as I would like, and it seems like there's not enough people sending things in. That's true. I really need to summon the army of Tuckmuggers. Tuckmuggers,
02:07:07
Speaker
they would be the ones throwing the trash cans through the windows during the the song in this yeah got up I like that. like at roton make
02:07:24
Speaker
Dude, yeah. Yes. So Tuck underscore mugs, guest mugs. Look, I got to ask you, Noah, since you you seem to be such a knowledgeable and and obsessed, even maybe fan of Tuck mugs. What would you say the ideal release schedule would you would be? Would you say like maybe once a week, once every two weeks, maybe once every other day as far as a Tuck mug? What's the ideal? What are we shooting for here? I would say a minimum of twice a week.
02:07:54
Speaker
Wow. a Minimum. Wow. Yeah. Now look, that's a lot of mugs and I realize that. It's a lot. a fucking lot, dude. Yeah. Oof. But I mean, if you get if you're getting this consistent flow of of guest mugs, then that's not a very tough hurdle to climb.
02:08:12
Speaker
No, I think it's definitely something to shoot for that gives me a nice goal. Like, uh, you know, you could even me post just mugs in the wild that you see that are just really shitty. Like in caption, it just like, look at, get a load of this fucking mug. You know, idiot mug yeah at the savers, the savers in the mug section. Look at the container for water. What do you mean? Live, laugh, love. Fuck off.
02:08:39
Speaker
mug out of here with that shit. Don't talk to me until I've had my coffee. Get out of here, Garfield, Kathy, a number of comic characters out of here. Get out of here. An infinite number of comic strip characters. Fuck off anyway. But if you like comic strip characters and you have a special mug, please send it to us as a guest mug at Tuck underscore mugs or disenfranch pod at Gmail dot com. That's my social, Stephen.
02:09:10
Speaker
Well, that is just great, Tucker, because that is our episode. We're wrapping it up here, bringing it in for a landing. And so that's that's it. That's the episode. Go home. um This has been the disenfranchised podcast. I'm your host, Stephen Foxworthy. For my co-host Tucker, the absent Brett Wright and the very present, very special Noah East. Until next time, stay funky fresh.
02:09:38
Speaker
you guys pools are perfect for hold water