Introduction to The Disenfranchised Podcast
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The franchise rights alone will make us rich beyond our wildest dreams.
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franchise right alone will make us rich beyond our wildest dream Class is in session here at the Disenfranchised Podcast, where that podcast all about those franchises of one, those films that fancy themselves full-fledged franchises before falling flat on their face after the first film.
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I am your host, Stephen Foxworthy, and joining me as always, the guy who could be really pretty cool if he weren't such a grade-A bitch. It's Tucker. Hey, Tucker. Hello, Stephen. How dare you?
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I mean, but fair. I wanted to get the quote right, and then I realized I didn't pull it up. So I was like, fuck, let's just on the fly. We're just going to do this. You did it. You did it. And I did it. We're so proud. And i knew i knew it would get a laugh out of you, which is why I did it. And I was right. In fact, I heard that line watching this movie last night, and i'm like, that's how I'm to introduce Tucker tomorrow.
Early Morning Recording and Beverage Choices
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Tucker, how are doing? It's it's it's a much earlier than we normally record these. Yes, i'm I'm very alert. you know i've I've swapped out my normal beer and or cocktail with a giant mug of coffee. I'm drinking Ba-I. Damn it, I've got a beverage here, man. It's spelled B-A-I. Ba-I?
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never known how to pronounce it, so I just pronounced it Ba-I. According to the Justin Timberlake commercial, it's Ba-I. Okay, Ba-I. Much like Justin Timberlake himself. I don't, i I can't say that. That's, that that'll get me sued.
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Allegedly. There we go. I can't get sued now. That's okay. Ain't nothing be shamed of. That's, hey man, being bisexual, that's like, that's the most options, dude.
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Correct. Well, pansexual, but yes.
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Well, guess. i I figure if you're bisexual that you'd be into and of everything in between as well. Not necessarily. Bi implies a binary. I thought it was bi as in two different things you like instead of just one.
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Whereas pansexual is everything. It's Peter Pan. No, it's not not Peter Pan. No, that's that's that's another P word, um which I will not this podcast. Think of the happiest thought, any happy little thought.
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um no Think of girls or think of boys, think of everything in between. Cause you're bi, cause you're bi, cause you're bi. Thank you. That's why we can't have nice things, ladies and gentlemen. I'll be here all week.
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Um, it is ah new episode of the disenfranchised podcast. Tucker.
Introduction to 'The Faculty'
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Good God. There's a new Final Fantasy movie in theory or Final Destination, not Final Fantasy. I keep doing that. Fuck me.
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ah There's a new Final Destination movie in theaters this weekend. And so to celebrate, we thought we'd cover another teen movie of that era that didn't get a franchise. Tucker, what are we talking about today?
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We're talking about the stone cold classic, The Straight Up Faculty. We are talking about the 1998 Robert Rodriguez film, The Faculty, written by Kevin Williamson, Mr. Scream himself, and starring in alphabetical order, Jordana Brewster, Clea Duvall, Laura Harris, Josh Hartnett, Sean Hattosi,
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Selma Hayek, Famke Janssen, Piper Laurie, Chris McDonald, B.B. Neuwirth, Robert Patrick, Usher, Raymond, Jon Stewart, Daniel Von Bargen, Elijah Wood, with small appearances from Summer Phoenix, John Abrahams, and Harry fucking Knowles.
Praised Effects and CGI Discussion
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What a cast, Tucker. What a picture. Oh, man, this movie is so good. And it does. it It never ages. I watch it about every five years to make sure it still holds up. It really does hold up.
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Fantastic. Even the effects. Even the effects, even though they don't hold up to today's standards because of the the context of the film and the fact that they use a lot of practical effects,
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even the shitty CGI still looks good. Right. Like even makes it creepier. Like when he goes out to the field and and the coach is standing there with all the shit coming out of his face and lightning strikes and you see the teeth and it looks really fake and like CGI, but it's very effective at the same time.
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Like because it looks bad, which that happens sometimes. I mean, late nineties, it's a late nineties thing, right? Like this is kind of how we were making movies in the late nineties. And Robert Rodriguez has a talent for making bad cgi work somehow there's uh i was listening to the blank check episode on jurassic park not too long ago and they were talking about how when they were putting together the cgi models for the dinosaurs they were like there are two ways to make this look decent on film if we do it any other way it's going to look weird we need to set it at night and we need to make it really wet
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you and which is why the T-Rex scene is at night in the rain. That's exactly why that scene is what it is and it's why it's so effective because at this point, CGI is still a relatively burgeoning market.
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And I think the next big, i think Peter Jackson will probably have the next big innovation with Smeagol. And even now we can start to see the cracks in that. And I think that's part of the issue with the computer effects is that they, they tend not to age as well as practical effects, but even so. We're looking at you deep rising. Mmm.
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Future episode of this podcast, Deep Rising. Still love that movie, but boy, those effects every year, they get a little... We should do we should do an under Under the Sea theme month and do Underwater, a movie we've never covered. ooh And if you remember us covering it, no, you don't.
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oh ah Deep Rising and, i don't know, some other Underwater failed franchise start. I think that'd be a fun theme month. I'm into it.
Tucker's Experience with 'The Faculty'
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ah Tucker, what what is your experience with ah the faculty?
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Well, when this movie came out, I was already a big Scream fan. I saw Scream during its, even though I wasn't old enough, I bought tickets to Austin Powers. um I saw Scream in its original run and when they brought it back. so I don't know if you remember this.
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It was a huge. dream Scream flopped when it first came out. But then the word of mouth got so big that But they brought it back.
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Like a month later, they were like, oh shit, we gotta put this back in theaters, because people actually wanna see it now. That we've taken it out of theaters. But it worked. But it worked, yes. And I saw it both times.
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And so i was way into Kevin Williamson, anything he was doing. And so I saw this at the theater. And I used to own it on VHS. I used to own it on DVD.
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I've never purchased the Blu-ray. um and It's on 4K now, and I really want it on 4K. Yes, but are there any special features? Because every release has nothing.
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There's nothing on any release. and if there's Let me look.
Special Features and Music Discussion
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I mean, there's got to be like, because they do those promotional behind-the-scenes featurettes all the time. Right. they show like ah in between They used to show like in between the movies on HBO and stuff, they'd show shit like that.
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HBO, first look. yeah Right, yeah, and those would always be like special features on d on DVDs. Um, you know what? They have a There are two new featurettes on the, this is Shout Factory, so of course they're they've got something.
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They're doing their best, yeah. Yeah, they're doing a new 4K restoration of the film. And then on the Blu-ray, but so it's a two-desk, and a Blu-ray. On the Blu-ray, they not only have the 4K restoration, they also have a featurette, The Thing from Another Classroom, which is an interview with Greg Nicotero, who did the makeup and creature effects.
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ah The great Greg Nicotero. his company did, I guess. Yeah. And then too Too Cool for School, which is an interview with production designer Carrie White. Not that Carrie White.
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yeah But yeah, so there's there's a couple new featurettes that on there. Not not a lot. no No director's commentary, which I know kind of weird. was really for a commentary, yeah. i I can't imagine that Robert Rodriguez and Kevin Williamson, even Josh Hartnett, wouldn't want to get together and rewatch this movie.
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Elijah Wood would probably be up for watching this movie recording a commentary. like Call Ersher and see what he's doing.
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I'm pretty sure he's in the club with the homies trying to get a little B up, but keep it down on the low key. I refuse to not pronounce it as Ersher. And that's Ludacris' fault. It is.
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and mean, like like so many great things in this world, we have Ludacris to blame. Yes, thank you, Luda. I mean, just if only if only he could take that and rewind it back, but I don't think he ever will.
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He can't. No, how could he possibly do that? Speaking of us, this is his first movie. I believe that. Because he's got that on screen, or...?
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No, just because we don't see a lot of them. This was right after his second record came out. Okay. um It's the one the one where he's like this and he's looking up and he's got like the hat on. You what I'm saying?
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What's that one? can't remember what that one's called. I could not tell you. I was not an Usher fan growing up. He was kind of a big fucking deal. Like he was probably the biggest deal that he's ever been probably at that time.
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And this is the year before She's All That, where he plays the DJ at the school. Yes, the school DJ. Yeah, and then at the the dance scene at the at the prom at the end, he's like, all right, why don't you all do that dance I taught you? And then they bust out into a big dance, number two, if I'm not mistaken, Rockefeller Skank. Is that right?
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Am I remembering that correctly? I don't know. I haven't seen Can't Hardly Wait until it came out. it's No, that's not Can't Hardly Wait. That's She's All That. Same thing. I mean, but i know they're not. Can't Hardly Wait is the superior film, I would say.
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i agree. Which is not to say that I dislike She's All That, but Can't Hardly Wait is the better film. Yeah. I really like Seth Green in that one. Yes. It was lot of fun. Of course, all of them kind of merged together in my brain ah because of Not Another Teen Movie, a movie I have seen multiple times.
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I'll leave it to you to try to figure out why. It must have hit you at the right time. it It's something. It it sure did. so It was a it was a DVD that a roommate left with me when he moved out.
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And so I just carried it around for a little while. It is fucking Rockefeller Skank. I just looked it up. Nice. Well, how's that for a memory? I can't remember like what i ate for breakfast 10 minutes ago, but I can remember that fucking Rockefeller Skank is the song that they dance to and she's all that.
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Oh, God. Yeah. the the the thing The things we remember. um So, yeah, I did not see this movie in theaters. know. Oh, because you didn't like that kind of stuff back then. do theater. I do remember, though, seeing the trailer lot.
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Yeah. That trailer was everywhere, and it creeped me the fuck out as a little kid. I was little kid. I was like, a ah by the time this came out, I would have been a sophomore in high school. So, not a little kid, but well and the yeah I didn't do horror at that age, so.
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The girl that they cut out of the movie is all over the trailer too. You know, there's a character, an entire main character that was cut from this film. This film does not need another main character.
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Well, maybe that's why she was cut. And i doubt she's going to be in the credits here, but I read about it. Was it a reshoot situation? No, it was... ah we Because she must not have been that integral if she if they could cut an entire main character. You see her once.
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You see her once in the actual movie, and it's the shot, the POV shot from the fish tank, and Jon Stewart's looking over, and all the students are over his shoulder.
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And she is the darker-complected gal right over, I guess it would be his left shoulder. Okay, this is Kedada Jones was the actor. The character's name was Venus.
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ah Shown in the TV previews as well as in Tommy Hilfiger commercials cut from the overall film. Because Tommy Hilfiger put a lot of money into this movie. yeah It shows. It shows. And they there's a big thing at the end of the credits where it's like, hey everybody, straight up, go buy Tommy Hilfiger stuff.
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ah You know who Kedada Jones is. ah She's a the gal that was cut from the faculty. r she She was. But also, I believe if if what I'm seeing here is accurate, ah yes, she is the ah daughter of Quincy Jones and the sister of Rashida Jones. Of Rashida, yeah.
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That's pretty cool. So yeah, and they they cut Quincy Jones' daughter from this movie. Well, and everybody else in this movie went on to be a big deal. So the fact that she got cut out... Almost everybody...
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Almost. Wait, who wasn't a big deal? um mayor I would say Laura Harris, who plays Mary Beth, didn't turn out to be a huge, huge deal. And then she still works. Sure. But like you said, big deal. Withy Jones' daughter don't still work.
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And then Sean Hattosi, also not ah not a big deal. Kind of one of those, where did he where did he go? What happened to that guy? Is that the guy who plays Stan? Yeah. but he's on the He is on the pit now. So maybe he's back on his way up.
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I always thought that was Warren. From Empire Records. Could be his brother. Could be his brother. Potentially. They look very much alike. But yeah, I mean, Jordana Brewster is ah just a ah like a year away maybe from the Fast and the Furious franchise.
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on Clea Duvall is a couple years away from being on every television show you watched in the 90s. This is um Josh Hartnett's, I believe, his second film. He had done H2O. That's pretty much it.
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Yeah, pretty much. Like this is very – like the Weinsteins were all in on Josh Hartnett early on. And I love Selma Hayek in this movie because especially with all the movies, the Robert Rodriguez films that she had been in before this, right she was always,
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The sex pot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, seductive and always, always not wearing very many clothes. You're always like, damn. But in this, she's just sick and frumpy. And I love it. And even when she turns into an alien, like, everyone gets sexier when they turn into an alien except Salma Hayek, who just stays the same.
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And then disappears from the movie. Like, we do not see her at all after she turns. Would you say that when that parasite took over her, that it got a body, 50 bucks,
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Would you say that's what the parasite was thinking? I don't think it got the 50 bucks. um But yeah, Salma Hayek, probably the biggest name in this movie at the time.
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yeah yeah Robert Patrick. ah Robert Patrick is, I think, a recognizable face, but not a name. He's doing X-Files by this point. Piper Laurie was Oscar nominated, but that was for Carrie like 20 years ago.
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Well, and she had been in the Twin twin Peaks. But that was even that was 10 years ago. as Well, I'm saying she, even though she wasn't big at that time, I'd say out of everyone, she was probably the person that had been the most popular at point. was going to say, she is definitely the most accomplished member of this cast. I will say that. yeah ah You got Famke Janssen the year before X-Men.
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up the One of the greatest character actors in the world, Christopher McDonald in this movie. Well, look, I hate to turn into a disgusting man here, but damn, she looked good in this movie, Stephen. Famke Janssen?
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Mm-hmm. Ain't too many movies she look bad in, Tucker. I know. Something about, like, this era of Famke. Something... Her jawline is just a little bit different where it all just comes together perfectly.
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No, she is. And there's that teaching Mrs. Tingle element to this that Kevin Williamson would go on to explore in his own film. um or The teacher-student relationship that is heavily alluded to in this. And it's okay because Josh Hartnett got held back his senior year. yeah He's repeating it.
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He's not a minor. Slightly older than everybody else. Right. It's legal. it's still He's still a student and it is ethically ah ethically gross. As someone who has been on a faculty, a couple of faculties, still ethically gross.
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No, agreed. I'm just saying. But also, i will step back from being gross and say everybody looks good in this movie. Everybody is like late 90s fly, smooth skin, great hair.
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Everybody looks fantastic. I don't think I've ever seen skin smoother than that main gal. What's her name? Jordana Brewster? Jordana Brewster. that girl's skin. I could not stop looking at that girl's skin because it's so smooth.
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Tucker, if if you would like to see more of Jordana Brewster, then I would highly encourage you to watch a little franchise called The Fast and the Furious. She is me up all over those fucking movies. She probably does.
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She probably does. You think so? You think she's still rocking Cucumber Melon after all these years? i could I could hope for Cocoa Butter, but I don't think that's for her, really. Touche.
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um You also have another phenomenal character actor, Daniel Von Bargen, who I know best from Seinfeld and Malcolm in the Middle, and oh Brother, Where Art Thou? All three of which he is phenomenal and And then this is Elijah Wood right before Lord
Elijah Wood's Career Before 'Lord of the Rings'
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of the Rings. In fact, ah according to the IMDb trivia, it's Harry Knowles who convinces who lets him know that Lord of the Rings is filming and convinces him to audition.
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so I believe that. I just i hate Gary Knowles, but yeah. For people who weren't paying attention, Lord of the Rings was Elijah Wood's big break.
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Despite the fact that he had been a child actor growing up in film. In so many big films. Motherfucker starred in Flipper, dude. Yeah. And The Adventures of Huck Finn with the great Courtney B. Vance.
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Mm-hmm. In so many... The Good Son. North. um already said North, but... Oh, you did? I missed North. Sorry. North twice. He was in it twice. He was. As... as as As North and as Elijah Wood.
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Yes, absolutely. Fantastic. um Apparently, Louis Black was in this movie? It's not that Louis Black. you sure? Yes. Okay.
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Because that Lewis. Oh, yeah. yeah it is a very like Very different Lewis Black. Yeah. Lewis Black spells his first name L-E-W-I-S. Ah, that makes more sense. But you know who else has a cameo in this movie?
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Speaking of political comedians. ah No. no Speaking of sex pests, Danny Masterson's in this movie. Oh, yeah. he's Because he's one of the kids who gets the drugs from him. Yeah. He is he's a fuck up one fuck up number one and Wiley Wiggins plays fuck up number two and then credited right above the two of them is Harry J. Knowles as again sex past ah a ah playing Mr. Knowles in this movie and then um you know getting into all sorts of sex past trouble writing the single horniest review ever in the history of cinema.
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Have you read his review for Blade 2? I don't want to. It's gross. What's sexy about Blade II? um Well, he likens Guillermo del Toro's um sense of directorial timing ah to cunnilingus.
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And he writes the entire review talking about how the audience is essentially the girl that Guillermo del Toro is going down on.
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Well, I'll tell you, if that were true, I'd get a new boyfriend because I don't like that movie. Touche. Because it's slow and boring. I'd be like, honey, it's okay. It's the best of the blades.
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Just give it the little tap on the head. guess. Honestly, I like the third one better. Oh, my God. Just because it entertains me. God. It's not a better movie, but it entertains me at least. I don't fall asleep during it and it's not ugly.
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i hate the – the mouth thing the mandible that looks that looks so stupid i hate it it's almost as bad as just big mouth you know how i don't like the big mouth you hate the big mouth thing where they're like oh it's scary because their mouth is bigger no it's fucking stupid scary well that and that's your your big mouth thing is my like jerky movement thing like when oh i don't like that either well when they don't do it well nobody does it right the way you're supposed to do it and the way they did it in a what's the Kevin Bacon movie where they're in Chicago stir of echoes the way. I love it when you answer your own question. So I don't have to.
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that That's the perfect jerky movement ghost because they do it right. Is they because because they film it at a different frame rate. And then they, they play it back at the correct frame rate.
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And so it makes everything jittery and jumpy and it looks fantastic. Everybody else just, try i don't know why they don't just do the same thing. But yeah, all the other ones look stupid when they do that. Except maybe Silent Hill.
00:21:48
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Yeah. Okay. I'm to take your word for it cause I haven't seen either of those films. Story of Echoes. Damn it, Steven. It got a sequel. Why? It was objective video. Damn it. I want to cover Story of Echoes because I want you to see it and I want to talk to you about it.
00:22:02
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Okay. Do you want me to put it on the straight up list? Yes. Yes. It's kind of a forgotten classic. Like people used to love that movie, but we've all kind of collectively forgotten about it. That was a weird era for Kevin Bacon though. Cause that's when he's doing like the woodsman and it's like, he's kind of out of the limelight, but also trying for an Oscar kind of a thing. Like that's kind of a weird, weird spot for him.
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That's it. Is it a horror movie? The woodsman? Yeah. Or no, a star of echoes. Kinda. It's a spooky. It's a ghost movie. Okay. was going to say, do you want me to put it in for this year's Spookython?
00:22:42
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I don't know, but put it on the list because i feel like we need to talk about it. And it really sucks that it got a stupid direct-to-video sequel that has nothing to do with the original. It was when Lionsgate was doing what every big studio does, they were like, let's do a bunch direct-to-video sequels to bunch of movies that did okay 10, 15 years ago.
00:23:03
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That's the same reason we can't do Undercover Brother. Yep, because Michael Jai White got that sequel. Not solid. Not, not, not solid.
00:23:16
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Sorry, sorry, man. Decidedly unsolid. But the faculty is pretty solid. Solid. Yes. Pretty solid. And we got Jon Stewart also right before The Daily Show, too. Like, before he took over The Daily Show. So, like... Yes, indeed.
00:23:32
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This... And B.B. Newworth, I think, also kind of relatively established, ah if from nothing else, from Cheers, but already an incredible stage career also. Yeah. So, I mean, this cast is popping off as the kids say, do the kids say, i don't know what the kids say.
00:23:48
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I think they say it. Yeah. But I mean, fucking amazing cast this movie has and everyone is just playing everything to the hill. Piper Laurie, And I know this is going to sound weird, particularly given the fact that she was Carrie's mom, but I don't think she's ever looked creepier on screen than she does in this movie. Like that scene where she walks in after her transformation and just walks right up to the camera and does that slow, creepy smile. Fuck. That gets me.
00:24:15
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That gets me. Dude. Yes. So um one of the things I really, really love about this movie is the second time you watch it, because once you know the twist, like,
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You're like, it's so obvious. How am I that stupid? It's the only one who's not a member of the Breakfast Club. And everything that she, she even alludes to it several times. Like, flat out says it a few times.
00:24:40
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Yeah. She's the only one that refers to it as the Queen. um Yeah. But yeah, it's the the, because the other five characters are all archetype, the archetypes from The Breakfast Club. Elijah Wood is Anthony Michael Hall. Cleo Duvall is Ali Sheedy. Jordana Brewster is Molly Ringwald.
00:24:55
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um Josh Hartnett is Judd Nelson. Judd Nelson, yeah. Sean Hatozzi is Emilio Estevez. Like, it's The Breakfast Club And then the new girl, which you think is going to be your entry point in. And that's kind of one of those, the final girl is the bad guy twist that we would get later on and stuff like scream for, and all the boys love Mary Lane that kind of sets up those other future movies. And I think does it better because,
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She's integrated in like you're introduced to her as the new girl. You're like, oh, this is the character I'm supposed to be latching on to. This is the point of view. She's blonde. She's very obviously going to be the the final girl. And then she's the bad guy. And you're like, whole if it if this were a slasher, that would probably fit a lot more. But yeah, it's really fucking well done, that twist.
00:25:43
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um And it doesn't feel tacked on or perfunctory either. It actually feels warranted and earned, which is for twist endings. I'm very hard on twist endings. um Because so often they're done poorly, but this one actually has done fairly well.
00:25:57
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I agree. The only problem I have with it is, like I say, one of its strengths is watching it again and seeing how, how just plainly she telegraphs it. But, um, I mean, she is new here in a very real way.
00:26:11
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it is kind of sad that they don't cover their asses continuity wise with the, um, when they're doing the scene from the thing where they're testing to make sure everybody's human.
00:26:25
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Right, which is a great scene. And she does it. but In that shot, she moves back, and you can see that the lid is still on. Yeah. It's still on.
00:26:36
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So at the end, when they have the little cutaway to her, when she didn't even need to alien finger that, she could have regular fingered that. um But when they do that and then you watch it again, you're like, well, but the cap's still on when she sniffs it. What are guys doing?
00:26:52
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It was probably just, that it was a couple of things probably happened. One, they didn't have that um quite nailed down yet. Or two, they just used a take where they couldn't cover that up. They should have used a better, another alternate take of her doing that. Well, there's actually the the continuity with the the caps on the pins during that scene.
00:27:14
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is, it's not great. There's a lot of times where caps will appear and disappear between shots. Rodriguez does not strike me as the kind of director who's going to get really hung up on continuity, though.
00:27:27
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Especially when it's stuff like that. Little stuff that only little goofballs like myself are going to stare at and but and for notice. For all his gifts as a filmmaker, and there are many, he's a very good filmmaker. the man Versatile, too. He can make anything. He can make any movie.
00:27:41
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he And that's, I think, I think there's a case for him as an auteur, but also he's the most journeyman of auteurs. He is both, for sure. He introduced the character Machete in the Spy Kids movies.
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like Just to kind of give you an idea. Spy Kids, by the way, one of the very few single director franchises.
Robert Rodriguez's Filmmaking Style
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like I think he's directed every single one of those.
00:28:05
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Yep. um which is insane. Even the one that doesn't have any of the main characters in it, he directed that one too. But yeah, the man is is, and he's prolific too. He's just got this his little studio down there in Texas.
00:28:20
Speaker
People just come to him. They do just shoot shit in his backyard and then just go. Like, I think he was talking about how when Lady Gaga was in Machete 2, Machete Kills, like, she she came in to do just, like, a couple days. He's like, yeah, just come down for, like, an afternoon. I'll i'll shoot you out in five hours.
00:28:38
Speaker
And so she came down, like, to his house, like, went into his personal studio, and he just shot all of her scenes in, like, five hours, and and she was gone, like, because she was in the middle of a tour or something. And so she just stopped, like, in between stops on her tour to shoot a movie with Robert Rodriguez. Like, he's...
00:28:54
Speaker
really knowledgeable, really efficient. I think it's because he gets his start in independent film, the rebel without a crew maxing out his credit cards to, to make, you know, this tiny little, ah you know, Mexican gangster movie in, in Mexico, of course, fucking whatever. um But yeah, El Mariachi is fucking, it's a, and it's an amazing movie as is the sequel, Desperado, the third Not so much, but yeah.
00:29:19
Speaker
What? I like Once Upon a lot of Time in Mexico. I think it's the perfect ending. I love it. You know who you don't need in ah in one of those movies? Johnny Depp. You don't need a Johnny Depp in that movie. ie I would argue I really like his character in that movie because he's – so the time that Robert Rodriguez is doing Once Upon a Time in Mexico is the same time he's fucking around with Planet Terror and Machete. Okay.
00:29:46
Speaker
And shows. Very experimental shit. El Mariachi and Desperado um they, the the, the tone kind of evolves between the two.
00:29:57
Speaker
Right. So for me, Once Upon a Time Mexico is the natural evolution of that tone within the context of the kind of shit that Rodriguez was fucking with at that time, which was like Grindhouse, like B-movie exploitation homages.
00:30:11
Speaker
Right. Which I, and I guess i'm likequid that's not what I was, I guess, looking for in a sequel to those two, but yeah. Which is fair. It's, it's a big tonal shift.
00:30:22
Speaker
I think it is the natural progression of the series. It comes out the same year as Spy Kids 3D Game Over. And then you get Sin City in 05. I remember seeing that in theaters.
00:30:35
Speaker
Me too. Also in 2005, Sharkboy Lavagirl 3D. So he's experimenting with the 3D technology in his kids' movies. And then two years after that, we have Grindhouse.
00:30:47
Speaker
ah Planet Terror and then the machete short which he then expands out into a full length film in 2010. So, I mean, this is his fourth movie after El Mariachi, Desperado, and From Dusk Till Dawn.
00:31:02
Speaker
And, like, this is still him in his kind of, like, I'm making, like, kind of trashy genre stuff phase before he hard pivots to Spy Kids literally three years later.
00:31:14
Speaker
Like, his next movie after this is Spy Kids. And I don't know if it's a reaction to this or just a desire to do something different for his for his own children, But like there's a hard pivot in his career after this. And then you find him straddling the line and like doing a back and forth. Well, I'll do a Spy Kids and then I'll do something harder. I'll do a Spy Kids and then I'll do something harder. Like it's a back and forth pivot.
00:31:36
Speaker
like He's still doing them. There was one that came out like two years ago. Exactly. Yeah. His last movie in point of fact, ah outside of the music video for Mammoth's The End, is Spy Kids colon Armageddon, which he made for Netflix in 2023. Yeah.
00:31:52
Speaker
He also has that 100 years movie, which is not supposed to come out for another 100 years with John Malkovich, a movie that none of us will ever see. no Nobody that made it or is alive when it was made will see And everyone will watch it 100 years from now and it'll be this weird curio and people will be like, so who fucking cares?
00:32:10
Speaker
um like Yeah. I guess some guy who was important 100 years ago made this. um But he is, he's of our stuff's made by AI now. i don't understand. People used to make art. That's crazy. um And, but his, and he's, and again, he's, he's very prolific. Like the man doesn't seem to stop working.
00:32:29
Speaker
to Like we've, and this is not the first Robert Rodriguez film we've covered. We covered Alita battle angel. i wish we could cover from dusk till dawn. God, that would be great. Or machete for that reason, for that.
00:32:41
Speaker
I mean, yeah you know what I'd love to do with from dusk till dawn. um And it's it's, well, I would love to cover the first one, but I would love to do an unenfranchised on the third one. Because the third one, even though the first one is the best, the third one is such a cool movie.
00:33:07
Speaker
Well, I know you love you some Michael Parks. I love Michael Parks. And Michael Parks in From Dusk Till Dawn 3, The Hangman's Daughter, that what's called? Hangman's Daughter? Something like that.
00:33:18
Speaker
um Michael Parks plays Ambrose Bierce. And everybody knows who Ambrose Bierce is. I do. and Own one of his books, yeah. Yes, a famous author from the Civil War times.
00:33:31
Speaker
Yep. And ah so what happened to this man is nobody knows what happened to Ambrose Bierce. He went to Mexico to fight with Pancho Villa and nobody heard or saw him after that.
00:33:43
Speaker
So this movie... from Dusk Till Dawn 3 offers an explanation for what happened to Ambrose Pierce when he went to Mexico. Yeah. Vampires?
00:33:54
Speaker
Yeah. And it's really cool. It's really, just the concept alone is worth watching it. There then you got Michael Parks. There's merit, I think, in like, I think a good double feature would be the original from Dusk Till Dawn and John Carpenter's vampires with James, k or James Woods.
00:34:11
Speaker
do haves first I think that would be a good double feature. Yeah. ah Yes, of course it is. I think vampires is one of my least favorite, if not my least favorite John Carpenter movie. I do not care for that film.
00:34:24
Speaker
Did you see the sequel with Bon Jovi? Sure didn't. Me neither. But I know it exists because it was on Crackle for years. Los Muertos is what it's called.
00:34:36
Speaker
And you know what didn't get a sequel though? What? The Faculty. The Faculty. No Danny Trejo in this one. The odd Rodriguez film without Trejo.
00:34:48
Speaker
um you I would love to see him as Mr. Trejo, like the janitor or the shop teacher. That's what that's where I think Trejo fits here. I feel like he could still be Machete in this. if If he's Uncle Machete in the Spy Kids movies, he can be ah Mr. Machete.
00:35:05
Speaker
That is one of my favorite like tidbits is the fact that that character was introduced in the Spy Kids movies. That cracks me up to no point. It's just too bad that in the Spy Kids movies, you can't have the announcer say it. You just fucked with the wrong Mexicans.
00:35:23
Speaker
um Yeah, I would love to see Danny Trejo in here in some capacity. I think a mistake this movie makes, I'm i'm just going to say this with some man measure of authority.
00:35:34
Speaker
I feel like the only adults in this movie should be the teachers. As much as I love Christopher McDonald, and do. Christopher McDonald, oh man, he's underused in this. He is, which is why part of the reason why I think you don't need that character. You don't need the parents at all.
00:35:50
Speaker
it's Like i I get why, because it's this idea that it's not just at school. We're not safe anywhere. Like I understand why, but I don't think it needs that. And I think it's, it's more potent. If the only adults that you encounter throughout the course of this film are the faculty, the titular faculty. You know, I think something that makes this hold up content makes it continue to hold up.
00:36:14
Speaker
Every time I watch this, I can't believe that there is zero homophobia Right? which is Zero racism. We just fucking we just fucking covered Dude Where's My Car, which has all of that shit and came out two years later.
00:36:29
Speaker
yeah Yes. yeah the know The closest thing they have to anything that's even relatively would make anyone collect their pearls. Danny Masterson. Well, he's in it, but like he doesn't his character doesn't do anything like particularly despicable.
00:36:45
Speaker
But the coach at one point calls the team ladies. Yeah. And that's, that's a coach thing anyway. It's it's a coach stereotype for sure. now Yeah. People probably still do that now. Like and it's just a thing.
00:37:00
Speaker
There's, I don't know. Are you an Arrested Development fan, Tucker? I forget. I've seen all of the seasons of Arrested Development, and I do enjoy it quite a bit, yes. There's that joke, there's that episode where ah everyone is getting really litigious about calling people by ah homophobic slurs.
00:37:17
Speaker
And so the drill sergeant, but it's the one where Buster joins the army, and the drill sergeant like can't use like any epithets or slurs. And so he's just like, and it's played by the the big tall guy from um Reno 911.
00:37:30
Speaker
And he's just like, ah well, I can't say that. You said that. I can't say that. It's very funny. And then when Job shows up to like Goadbuster by calling him all the the slurs that he couldn't call him, the the drill sergeant is just standing back going, yes, do it, you beautiful bastard. just gets me Like that's kind i think, where that joke has progressed to. And I ah kind of like that progression because Arlie Ermey kind of made like drill sergeants and coaches kind of like made that stereotype for decades because of Full Metal Jacket.
00:38:05
Speaker
Yeah. Like that, that became this and Robert Patrick in the, the early and late scenes, like the bookend scenes of this movie is basically doing that is basically kind of channeling Arlie Ermey in full metal jacket.
Robert Patrick's Acting Praise
00:38:18
Speaker
And I think otherwise you could probably, if not for all the nuance and stuff that he needs to play in the middle, you could probably just cast Arlie Ermey, but you need someone like Robert Patrick to really sell the creepiness of I've been a terrible person, but now I'm nice. And what kind of human being would I be if I weren't understanding you in this moment? Like it's. right of He's his scariness comes from his ability to.
00:38:43
Speaker
have a complete stone face, completely emotionless. He can do that. yeah And that's, I'm sure T2 got him this role for sure. Oh, without question. be that That is an exercise in just... The only one who can do that better is Buster Keaton.
00:38:59
Speaker
Um, like just like with the zero emotion. And then in that first scene where he's like attacking the the other members of the faculty, he's at the end of the hallway and Piper Laurie's like screaming at the door.
00:39:12
Speaker
And then you just see Robert Patrick just slowly break into the T-1000 run. And there is, again, if there's another thing that he does better than just about anybody, it is running, ah like with like steely resolve.
00:39:27
Speaker
Like a machine. he likes like He looks like a robot running. Right. And like no emotion again with the complete stone faced like in um you. so I think you said it during our technical difficulties as though he is expending no effort whatsoever.
00:39:42
Speaker
None. He could go. He could do it all day. Exactly. Exactly. Can and should. um But yeah, and and again, that's, I think, one of his superpowers as an actor is the ability to to just do shit like that.
00:39:57
Speaker
um And what makes him, I think, really, really work in this role. um And i again, I think this just perfectly cast this entire movie. Well, I think i think he's Robert Patrick is a very special kind of actor because as he has aged, he has figured out what works.
00:40:19
Speaker
Back then, because of the way his facial structure was and how smooth his skin was, he was robotic, creepy guy. Right. Now he's old and grizzled. So he has adjusted those kind of roles. And like, if you don't know, it's Robert Patrick.
00:40:35
Speaker
Like Robert, its speaking of From Dusk Till Dawn, Robert Patrick plays the Harvey Keitel role in the television series. And he's fantastic. And he's not robotic or machine-like at all. He's a preacher.
00:40:49
Speaker
He's an old preacher. And the fact that he has evolved to really play to the strengths of his appearance. Mm-hmm. is yeah I mean, you don't see that a lot with actors. Actors just do what they do.
00:41:01
Speaker
right Robert Patrick, every time like his body changes, he's like, okay, this works for me now because it's how I look. So I can do this really well. Is one of those great – Kevin Smith tells the story on Cop Out how like Bruce Willis is like, your makeup person is doing it wrong.
00:41:18
Speaker
You know, it's it's, you know, blood here, sweat here, mud here. Like, that's the way that it works on my face. Like, he's been doing it so long that he knows what his angles are. He knows what and what doesn't.
00:41:30
Speaker
And I think Patrick is the same way. I mean, this is a guy who's been doing it for decades. And even at this point, even though, like, his big break was in... Terminator 2 that was probably the first thing most of us saw him in the man was still working even long for that like the man has credits if not in film then at least on stage right so I mean his first movie is 1987's Equalizer 2000 what a great film what a cast what a picture he's in Die Hard 2 does anyone remember that he's in Die Hard 2 because he is yeah
00:42:09
Speaker
Terminator 2, Judgment Day. doesn't remember he's in – come man. Then he reprises his role as T-1000 in Wayne's World 2. Have you seen this one?
00:42:23
Speaker
He's shredded after he He plays, again, reprises that role again in 93 in Last Action Hero. Yep. um But he's in an episode of Tales from the Crypt in 92. Implied.
00:42:33
Speaker
It's implied in Last Action Hero because he can't technically be T-1000. He is credited with thousand as T-1000. Really? Wow. Okay. I never knew that. Yeah. I know i don't know hesian i made that yeah and don't know if he's uncredited in the film, but IMDB has him credited as T-1000. So, well see so i mean, yeah, but, but man, man works, man gets work done. Like he's been doing it at this point at the time, this movie comes out, he's been doing it for over a decade.
00:43:01
Speaker
So again, if anyone's going to know his angles and know what he does, well, it's, it's going to be him. And a year before one of your favorite movies, Copland. Yeah. Oh, yes. He has a mustache in that. <unk> That's the first time you see him like, well, as far as mainstream movies go, the first time you really see him act outside of just being like that stone cold machine like kind of guy. Right. Because he's he's your your every your blue blood everyday shitty cop.
00:43:33
Speaker
And he's got the mustache. And wow, he's he's kind of scary in that movie too, but for different reasons. Yeah. I mean the he is he's he's a good he's a good scary guy. like He plays a good horror character, a good villain, frankly.
00:43:50
Speaker
um hes He's the villain in ah james got the first season of James Gunn's Peacemaker as well. ah well Because he's his dad. Yeah. He's his dad. yeah he's his diet Plays Pappy.
00:44:01
Speaker
But yeah, he was he phenomenal in that as ah as a grizzled old racist. so Yes. yeah Now he owns a Harley dealership in LA now. Oh. It just opened it. I think it was either last year a year before last year. I follow him on Instagram.
00:44:15
Speaker
Okay. I have no desire to own a motorcycle, but I kind of want to stop in there just to get shit signed. He's ah he's a big Harley guy. he's ah He has his own like little motorcycle gang. They're all like sober guys.
00:44:27
Speaker
okay used to not be so sober right and now they ride instead of drink there you go i ra i knew a guy who got sober through the theater like theater helped him get sober and so he's like yeah i just this is what i do now i don't drink i i act so yeah and whatever whatever keeps you the demons at bay you know yeah dude uh but that rules i i love that for him um God, yeah, this movie is fun. It's it's so much fun. And again, i do I really legitimately do think it holds up fairly well. like I just have fun watching this movie. It's not something I'm like, oh, this is great cinema, but I'm like, this is a good time.
Pacing and Scene Construction in 'The Faculty'
00:45:05
Speaker
But it is of perfect movie. kind of it's kind of a perfect movie Like everything works in this movie. Every scene leads to the other. There's no fat on it. There's no chuffa. You know, it's just, it's a streamlined movie. It does what it needs to do. I guess that's why they got rid of that other character.
00:45:22
Speaker
Cause if she had been there, maybe I wouldn't be saying this. Right. And and but it's kind of, it's kind of a back to the future kind of thing where like every, there's nothing wasted. Everything pays off. Everything pays off.
00:45:33
Speaker
And it all moves the story forward. Again, my, my one pushback on that is going to be the parent shit. I don't think that pays off. And that I think that's the fact that could have been trimmed. Again, I get it. You don't want to you don't want to hire Christopher McDonald and then not use Christopher McDonald. He's a fucking great actor.
00:45:51
Speaker
You get anger management Christopher McDonald too. like he and But but hes say there's such a depth in that character, even though we only see him for a minute. Because you can tell he has anger issues, but you can also tell that he really loves his son.
00:46:04
Speaker
Yeah, like he wants to support him. image It's such a complicated character to have like 30 seconds of screen time with. It's a amazing. the The scene in the office where he's like, could you hear that, Casey? The coach said you had speed like like clearly projecting his aspirations onto his son, not happy that his son is the the brain and more wanting him to be the athlete. Like, hey, here's a chance for the two of us to finally connect on something that I understand.
00:46:27
Speaker
Like, and it's all in that one line delivery. And it's so fucking well. And again, that's what Christopher McDonald bring. He's such a great actor. like That's why you hire him. even Even when he's in bad shit, looking at you, Secret Invasion, he's still really good in it.
00:46:44
Speaker
Like, I think he's the villain in the Robin Williams flubber. I feel like future episode of this podcast, maybe. um But I think he's the villain in that as well. He's in fucking Quiz Show.
00:46:55
Speaker
Of course, but you know people our age know him best as um Shooter McGavin from ah Happy Gilmore, who will apparently be back for the sequel, I'm heard i'm i'm i'm hearing.
00:47:10
Speaker
i He was in something I watched recently. Hacks. something... Oh, yeah, because he's the that the studio, or not studio, the guy who owns the the casino where she's, yeah Yeah, but that's a complicated character too. That's another one where like it's a very complicated character. It's a guy who does shitty stuff, but it's not necessarily a shitty person.
00:47:37
Speaker
yeah Yeah, I like I love him as an actor. And even when i was a kid, I clocked him as an actor. I like I think one of the first things I saw him in Tucker, do you remember the movie House Arrest?
00:47:48
Speaker
Speaking of movies from this era ah with Jamie Lee Curtis and um Jennifer Love Hewitt. Um, he's in that movie. Kevin Pollack is in there as well.
00:48:00
Speaker
That was, I think, one of the first movies that I clocked him in. and ah yes, in 1996, House Arrest. Good God. that Why did that movie just suddenly enter my brain back again? But yeah, he plays the the father of one of the one of the kids that lock their parents in the basement.
00:48:20
Speaker
Wow. Wallace Shawn in that movie as well. um Jennifer Tilly in that movie, I believe. Yes. um Ray Walston, like great calling the great Colleen Camp in that movie. Like, holy shit, what a cast in this thing.
00:48:38
Speaker
um But again, kind of like the, you know, the the adults don't understand. And it's, you know, the kids versus adults thing that becomes so. I know, ubiquitous throughout this era.
00:48:50
Speaker
um and And this movie, I think, is emblematic of that as well. But you've got Christopher McDonald kind of playing in both of those sandboxes ah very well. And again, playing two very different characters. He's he's the bad guy in The Iron Giant as well. Does the voice of the bad guy in The Iron Giant, like he's just all over the place.
00:49:08
Speaker
Such a great movie. Such a great actor. Does not need to be in this movie. It's funny because his character in the iron giant looks, I think more like Robert Patrick than it does. Uh, but I, I'm, I'm glad it's Chris McDonough again. I love the man as an actor. I think he is absolutely phenomenal. I just don't think you need that character here.
00:49:30
Speaker
No. Um, it, it just, it feels like fluff. It feels like extra. And I think it would be a lot cleaner if it was just the faculty. i think I think the reason that I give it a pass is because it is so good. It doesn't belong.
00:49:44
Speaker
But the scenes that he's in are so good that I can't help but like be into it. i mean, he is great. I i will not i will not hear an unkind word. He's the dad in SLC Punk, too. I think that was the first time I saw him was he was the dad in SLC Punk. There go. He says, I didn't sell out, son. I bought in.
00:50:02
Speaker
ah But yeah I mean, in I'm just running down his credits. He's had appearances in like, he's in Dirty Work. He's Ward Beaver in the future episode of this podcast, Leave It to Beaver. Yeah. um we'll We'll do an entire theme month around, you know, movies that...
00:50:18
Speaker
are were based on like 50s and 60s television shows because we've got enough to make that work. I like those. You do. It's too bad the best ones got sequels. They did. All of them exclusively.
00:50:30
Speaker
And the rest of them, what's left over is what we're covering. um But yeah, I mean, he's just in everything. And he's he's in he's the the TV host in Requiem for a Dream. Like, yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, he's the advertiser guy. Yeah, he just he drops into all sorts of things. And he's such a he's he's a recognizable face.
00:50:51
Speaker
So you're like, you feel comfortable with him. But again, he's so great at being an antagonist. Like he would be he and Tate Donovan, I think, should do a show together where they play bad guys or something.
00:51:02
Speaker
He was also um in my favorite Coen Brothers film, The Man Who Wasn't There. Yes. Yes, he was. He's the door-to-door salesman in Ed's dream. Mm-hmm. When his wife comes back from the dead in his dream.
00:51:16
Speaker
Right. He's the salesman in that dream. Oh, my God. Yeah. God, just again. Chef's kiss. love the Love the man. Love his work. Don't think he needs to be in this movie.
00:51:27
Speaker
But again, you're right. Like he's selling it a hundred percent, but it just, it, it just feels tacked on. And again, i i know why you feel like you need that, but I don't feel like it's really necessary. I think the movie has more power if the only adults are the faculty, which is itself kind of would be kind of referential to like, um Oh, what's the name of that movie? Fast times at Ridgemont high does that as well.
00:51:54
Speaker
ah where the only teachers you or the only adults you see are like the teachers or like the the managers at the fast food places that are like 10 years older than these kids if that like it's it's like it's ah it's an interesting dynamic so I don't know i I don't think it's necessary I get why it's here um doesn't need to be unless you're going to flesh that out more i feel like this could have been like a three hour long movie with all the stuff that they cut between like different characters like it feels like certain things probably had more to them ah In the final edit, but they just kind of like the, the ending in particular just feels a touch rushed to me.
00:52:30
Speaker
Like, I think this is a great movie, but it, I cannot deny that it is flawed. I think, I think that there was an issue trying to transition into the twist.
00:52:44
Speaker
Yeah. And they, I don't, I don't think they could figure out a good play, good, good, place to do it or the right context so they did their best and just kind of they were like oh well these two are alone now probably we should probably do it now yeah like all the like there aren't any you know the the drug is gone like we don't have access to that like so let's it feels like as good a place as any and you know and the the fallout from all of that it's It is what it is. It's um again, I, I like this film quite a bit, but I can't, you know, it's not a perfect movie, but I have, i have a hell of a lot of fun with it.
00:53:23
Speaker
So, you know, flawed, but fun is I think ah was my last letterboxd review of this when I watched it ah during the pandemic, I think, but you know, it's, it's a fun movie. And every now and again, I just get a hankering for some goofy high school sci-fi fun and I'll pop in the faculty. Yeah.
00:53:41
Speaker
Yeah, dude, that's why I own it. And I've purchased it like four different times since it's been out on different formats. Different formats. Yeah, absolutely. Because it's worth watching. i like I'll come back to it every couple of years for sure. Yeah, it's it's it's so much fun. Yeah.
00:53:57
Speaker
Yeah, i will i will I need to buy it on 4K. I need that Shout Factory 4K. if I do too, actually. five dollars $35. I would probably buy it right now. It'll go on sale. It will. Well, that is it on sale. It's normally $40. It's on sale for $36.
00:54:12
Speaker
so Like sale as in it's on Amazon, so it's a little bit cheaper, or it's on sale sale? Like that's the sale price on Shout. I didn't look on Amazon. Oh, Okay.
00:54:24
Speaker
Sometimes they'll be like, especially if they do that going out of print sales, those are the best. That's where you're going best. But then you yeah you run the chance of not getting it because if it gets sold out then it goes out of print, you're screwed.
00:54:36
Speaker
Correct. It's on sale on Amazon for $34.
00:54:42
Speaker
So, you know. Nice. Same price kind of across the board. It's like $2 more on on Shout than it is on Amazon. But yeah. um what what else What else would you like to to speak on with regard to the faculty, Tucker? like there's we There's a lot we love about this movie. It's always more difficult to talk about movies we love.
00:55:01
Speaker
Yeah, because I just like everything about it. Everybody's so beautiful in this movie. Everybody looks great. Everybody is... I don't i can't i can't think of a bad performance in this film.
00:55:17
Speaker
i love that the I love that there's the two side characters, fuck you girl and fuck you guy, yeah that kind of carry through the entire film. And so like you really know when all the students are got because they're not yelling fuck you at each other. Right. I love the scene where ah we're just she's yelling fuck you at him and he's just sitting there and like so yeah staring at chasing him very back. Yeah.
00:55:41
Speaker
yeah And that's that's, I think, another clue to the identity of of Mary Beth is because he's, like, staring right at her as if to, like, you know, be like, I'm doing this right, right? Like... Yeah.
00:55:52
Speaker
But, yeah, it's... Yeah. And, again, I think that's a very good runner. And this movie has those, like, little subtle touches, which, again, I think it's something that Williamson does very well. um The... Elijah Wood and Jordana Brewster ending up together is another thing that doesn't... It feels, like, very sudden and weird to me.
00:56:13
Speaker
and let's say It feels like wish fulfillment on Kevin Williamson's part. Like, I was a nerdy kid, and I wish Anthony Michael Hall had gotten the girl at the end of Breakfast Club instead of Judd Nelson. So fuck that guy. We're making the nerd the winner here.
00:56:26
Speaker
i don't know, because you you get weird relationships out of traumatic experiences like this. And I'm not saying that relationship would last, but going through an experience like that with someone, i think, would kind of...
00:56:43
Speaker
lead to some unconventional pairings. Sure. i don't know if they would last. I don't think they would, but good for him because man, i mean, I've been crushing on that gal since the first time I saw that movie. Like I said, I just, the, the olive skin dude. And she's got such smooth skin.
00:57:04
Speaker
don't know, man. Two words, Tucker fast and furious. I know. i know. ah if If this is the thing that pushes you into finally watching that franchise, then it will have all been worth it.
00:57:16
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I think in later entry, she is woefully underutilized because her character was connected to Paul Walker. And so when he died, they kind of don't know what to do with her anymore, which sucks.
00:57:27
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um yeah But like one, four, five, six, and seven, she's all over those. so
00:57:35
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Nice. Just throwing that out there for you. Nice. Now, ah something I did want to mention about this movie is how completely ridiculous it is that it got made.
Unique 90s Film Style of 'The Faculty'
00:57:46
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Because it I understand the kill um Kevin Williamson of it all. I understand the Robert Rodriguez of it all. I understand the entire cast. But who was making 50s sci-fi body snatchers movie in the late ninety s but And i and i I think that's probably part of the reason why it didn't work at all. Like, because the slasher genre, if you remember two years before this, the slasher genre was on its last leg until Kevin Williamson kind of reinvigorated it with Wes Craven for Scream.
00:58:19
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And so I think this is the wine scenes going, can he do the same for like... a body snatcher kind of thing. Can he do the same for like a 60 or a fifties sci-fi pastiche?
00:58:29
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And Williamson for his credit really seems to love the genre infuses it with kind of more modern influences like the thing and the breakfast club and kind of the teen movies that had come before it. This is basically scream meets invasion of body snatchers meets the thing meets the breakfast club. Like it's all of those things kind of melded into one and it works. And that's something I think Williamson as a writer does very well, but I think it's again, and this is a script that I think the Weinsteins had, it was originally written.
00:58:59
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If my notes here are correct by David Wechter and Bruce Kimmel were the original writers of the original screenplay. They sold it in the early nineties. Um, And when Scream came out and was such a success, the Weinsteins are like, fuck, give us this script.
00:59:16
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Kevin, do a pass, clean it up, put the Kevin Williamson spin on it, and we'll rush this thing into production. And which is exactly what happened. Like it's the Weinsteins going horror. That's the thing.
00:59:27
Speaker
You know, this kind of horror in particular, which is why you get like right after Scream, you get H2O, which is them kind of rushing the... ah the Scream model for an actual slasher movie into production.
00:59:39
Speaker
well and like Dimension, it had the rights, Dimension, it had the rights to the Halloween franchise for a few years and didn't know what the fuck to do with it. Halloween franchise might've died if it hadn't been for Scream. Honestly.
00:59:51
Speaker
The model for Scream or the model for horror movies that particularly Dimension and Miramax are making going forward, seems to be blank, but make it Scream. And so this is, yeah you know, 50 sci-fi comma, but make it Scream.
01:00:06
Speaker
yeah so yep that i think that's kind of how this movie gets made and for all its flaws i still fucking love it it's so fun it's so good it's such a good movie and even even the flaws are good even the stuff that doesn't work works for a sequel for a sequel i want to see this play out in a college setting you know, keep a few of the characters, add in some more characters, and then maybe- So Scream 2.
01:00:35
Speaker
Scream 2, but 50s monster invasion movie. but But what I'm thinking, like, because the first one is, like, it's it's it's faculty. Well, who else has a faculty? So you either set it in a college where they can all be students again, or you make, if I mean, if you were to do it now, you make them the teachers. Yeah.
01:00:54
Speaker
like Josh Hartnett is like the science teacher, Stokely is the the English teacher, like you make them the teachers and then um maybe they're the faculty facing off against an invasion of the students this time.
01:01:09
Speaker
That's how you do the legacy sequel. That's the legacy sequel. That's how you do the legacy sequel. Fuck yeah, dude. Robert Rodriguez, literally, don't want money. Just give me a based on a story by credits. Based on a sentence by. Yeah, based on a sentence by.
01:01:25
Speaker
Or, or bor you know what? I'll sign that away. Give me a fucking part in the movie. There you go. Fly me down to Texas. hey i'll I'll come to your studio. give me Make me the Harry Knowles analog on the faculty. I've been a faculty member and I'm an amateur actor. i can I can pull it off.
01:01:43
Speaker
Please. Hear me now, Robert Rodriguez. Hear me now and hear me later. We know you listen. We know you listen, Robert Rodriguez. We know you're an ardent and adamant fan. um i think it could fucking work. it Unless it's something one of those like dogma things where the rights are all tied up.
01:01:58
Speaker
um with the Weinsteins, which I think I don't know if that's true or not. It feels like so many movies we talk about have their kind of stench coming off of them ah because of how ubiquitous they were in the late 90s and early 2000s.
01:02:15
Speaker
um It's really unfortunate. And they were putting out so much stuff that like it just doesn't Like there's there's just so much
Critique of 'The Faculty's' Soundtrack
01:02:24
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out there. I will. Another thing I love about this movie, Tucker, I'm gonna throw it out.
01:02:28
Speaker
The soundtrack to this movie is amazing. I, my feelings about the soundtrack are complicated because let me tell you this. If there's one thing I can't stand in this world,
01:02:41
Speaker
is the album The Wall by Pink Floyd. You kind of can't do this movie without at least one song from The Wall. I do. i do love Pink Floyd. But The Wall, to me while musically it is fantastic, it's whiny.
01:02:59
Speaker
It's entitled. it's It's like, basically, we wouldn't have 21 pilots without The Wall, essentially.
01:03:10
Speaker
um Well said. Roger Waters ah crawled so those motherfuckers could sprint. ah For sure. That's what I will say. and And as much as I love Pink Floyd, the wall to me is just so whiny and just so off-putting.
01:03:29
Speaker
um And especially Another Brick in the Wall Part 2, I am so fucking sick of that song. It is a song that needs to retire. It needs to go to the retirement home with Sweet Home Alabama i know and every Eagles song.
01:03:40
Speaker
Sympathy for the Devil needs to be there too. And every, e did I mention every Eagles song needs to be there as well? At least twice. Every single one. um But in this movie. and the dude hate the Eagles.
01:03:53
Speaker
in this I don't hate the Eagles. I just hate all of their hits. Because um I'm sick of hearing them. I've heard they've been like shoved into my brain for the past 40 years. Like constantly.
01:04:05
Speaker
It is not a peaceful easy feeling. But I'm going to take it easy. You should. I will. I'm not going to let the sound own wheels try to be crazy. Wait for that girl, lord, and flatbed Ford slowing down to take a look at you, man.
01:04:18
Speaker
They always do. Causing accidents and shit. Yeah. um But the version of Another Brick in the Wall Part 2 in this movie, especially when it's just the instrumental, the... duke duk duk duk duk duk duk duckk duk tuk dok duk duk tuk dok du do do Well, that is a cover by Class of 99. Perfect.
01:04:38
Speaker
It's fantastic for this movie. I don't even hate it, which is strange because like i said, I hate that song more than most songs that I hate. It hurts me inside to hear it, but in this movie, especially the instrumental lead in, holy shit.
01:04:54
Speaker
They do. They do part one for the, the, the credits and part two for, I think one of the opening, I think one of the opening scenes of the film, uh, but it's,
01:05:06
Speaker
Lane Staley from Alice in Chains, Tom Morello from Rage Against the Machine, Stephen Perkins from Jane's Addiction, Martin LeBoyle or Martin Lenoble, excuse me, from Porno for Pyros and Matt Serletic from Collective Soul.
01:05:19
Speaker
Like that is a super group of this era, like um crystallized in amber. this era like fucking incredible that and then you've got the soul asylum cover of alice cooper's schools out which is fine was all over the the trailer for this movie schools out or who did 18 oh creed did 18 that's why it sucked yeah uh you've got the kids on all right 18 how do you fuck up it's like one of the you give it to creed that's how you fuck i can i do karaoke on that song and i make it sound good that's one of my mom's favorite songs
01:05:54
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ah You've got a sean multon the Sean Mullins cover of Changes, Oasis doing fine Stay Young. yeah that sucked. The Kids Aren't Alright by The Offspring. I fucking love The Offspring.
01:06:05
Speaker
Which is fine, yeah. I thought it pretty good. The opening one to the football scene was... yeah yeah yeah i Not me singing along with that as it's popping on. like Again, just i I jam out to this.
01:06:16
Speaker
Steven, you love The Offspring and you are still dragging your feet on watching Idle Hands. They're actually in that movie, Steven. Oh, aren't they really? That's hilarious. Your boys are in that movie.
01:06:28
Speaker
Physically. Physically. my my attitude My attitude with regard to the offspring and appearing in movies is you you gotta you got to keep them separated. That's that's my argument.
01:06:44
Speaker
ah That's pretty fly for a rabbi, Stephen. Oh, there it is. Oy vey! Oy vey! um
01:06:56
Speaker
ah You know, how is Weird Al not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Like, I'm with John Mulaney on this one. Like, come on. Should be. like At this point, yeah, absolutely should be. there are There are a number of acts that probably shouldn't have squeezed their way in ahead of him, but here we are.
01:07:12
Speaker
This is not the best possible timeline, Tucker. I don't know if you're aware of that or not, but it is not the best possible timeline. um Yeah, The Faculty, man. Great film. ah Part of the reason it didn't do well is that it opens Christmas Day 1998.
01:07:29
Speaker
um This was a Christmas release Christmas not historically a great time for horror movies And also given what it's opening against Also probably not ah the best It opens at number 5 for the weekend ah To 11.6 million Which is okay But then coming out opposite it And this kind of gives you an idea as to why it maybe didn't do so well At number 1 you have Patch Adams The Robin Williams dramedy about a doctor.
01:08:03
Speaker
um Who gives a fuck? In second place, the Julia Roberts, Susan Sarandon film Stepmom. Who gives a fuck? Hey, that was one of the movies that everybody owns that movie on DVD.
01:08:15
Speaker
Because it was one of the movies they gave away with DVD players. Oh, there you go. And um ah the Lost in Space movie that came out around that time. I saw that in theaters three times.
01:08:27
Speaker
And... The podcast Lost in Space. How have we not covered Lost in Space? Lethal Weapon 4. I first R rated movie. I saw in theaters and I can't remember what the other one was, oh but I remember this. Not only do I remember it, but my parents have like four copies of each of those movies. That's how I remember it over the years.
01:08:45
Speaker
Like, oh, there's my parents, four copies of step mom that they've never watched. In third place, a movie I have probably watched more than any other movie in my life because my sister was absolutely obsessed with it.
01:08:58
Speaker
ah Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan in you've got mail. you Your sister loves that movie. She watched it by the time from, by the time she made it to high school, she had watched that movie almost 40 times.
01:09:13
Speaker
I believe. so And it was usually, she would watch it when I was home. So I watched it as many times as she did. It is a movie I cannot bear to watch anymore. It is the reason I will not do a Nancy Meyers watch there, or is that Nora Ephron?
01:09:26
Speaker
Either, i will not do their their their full filmography. Not really, but... ah Because of that movie. Like, I have to avoid it because I i can't.
01:09:37
Speaker
Well, you don't need to watch it, Stephen. It's all right here. Yeah. you can just play it in your head anytime you want. Yeah, but I don't want. I don't want. That's the problem. Yeah, but Dave Chappelle, though. In fourth place, a movie you invoked earlier in this episode, ah The Prince of Egypt.
Box Office Performance and Sequel Potential
01:09:53
Speaker
Oh, I love that movie. open It's is not opening. It's in its second weekend, down from number two the week before ah to fourth place. And in fifth place, as we said, The Faculty, rounding out the top ten, also opening this week, future episode of this podcast, Mighty Joe Young at number six, A Bug's Life at number seven, ah Star Trek Insurrection at number eight, Enemy of the State at number nine.
01:10:18
Speaker
i like that one. RIP Gene Hackman. a lot. And number 10, Jack Frost, the movie designed for George Clooney, but starring Michael Keaton, which is why the snowman looks exactly like George Clooney.
01:10:33
Speaker
Because there's two Jack Frosteses, but one's an evil snowman that kills people. That one I don't think got a theatrical release.
01:10:41
Speaker
No, i yeah, even the first one was direct-to-video. Yeah. So um the faculty would go on after opening to eleven Street 6th. It goes on to make a $40 million dollars domestic box office off of a $15 million dollars budget, which pretty good.
01:10:59
Speaker
Not bad. Not bad. Made their money back. But it's not scream numbers, with which I think is the problem. and what And I think there's two things here. So it's not scream numbers and everyone else in this cast popped off and started doing different things.
01:11:14
Speaker
So like you can't get them back for a sequel because they immediate like Hartnett, Wood, Brewster and Duvall all kind of immediately explode. and So you don't really like Duvall may have been able to come back and do it, but like Wood is spending like three years in New Zealand.
01:11:32
Speaker
Hartnett is becoming like a leading man heartthrob. um Brewster is locked into the Fast and Furious. Like they just kind of start to disperse and you're not going to be able to pull them back even if the studio wanted to.
01:11:44
Speaker
Mm-hmm. That's true. That's true. Also, I don't know that this movie works better. A sequel would work better with some distance from the original. I don't think you could do and an immediate follow up and it would really be any good. Like this almost this is actually perfect legacy equal fodder in the way that we were discussing it to before before where you get i give the original.
01:12:08
Speaker
Yes. Some of the original cast back to be the yeah the faculty. Yeah. And the turns are tabled. And honestly, you could probably cast, you know, Hartnett as a lead now. Like he's. Oh yeah. They've all calmed down quite enough to where you could get them all for a decent price. They've, they've calmed down, but then also like Hartnett and Wood are starting to gain some momentum back, but not enough that they're unaffordable. Like I think everyone's kind of in a good sweet spot right now.
01:12:34
Speaker
Rodriguez is still like doing his thing. um I don't know if Williamson would want to come back to rewrite it. Honestly, give it, if, if neither one of them get want to get involved, give it the fucking radio silence. Those guys would kill it.
01:12:46
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. So, I don't know. I feel like this is this is a good... ah feel like we've come... we've If nothing else, we've done good work here. Pitching our legacy cool idea for the faculty. And you know what? Since we've covered the faculty, we'll have to cover it if they make it.
01:13:00
Speaker
So... Oh, and you know what? What we do is we leave we leave Josh Hartnett for the third act. There it is. Because, you know, he's still fucking around, like, pretending to be a loser and shit.
01:13:11
Speaker
But, like, Elijah Wood, and and you got Stan as the phone call coach. Hold on, I have to make a phone call. And who comes who like comes strolling in in that that fucking car? It's fucking Chevy Nova. It's 74 Chevy Nova, just, like, spinning shitties in this parking lot. There it is. Whipping shitties in the parking lot. Yes.
01:13:33
Speaker
Fucking it. This is so good. This fucking writes itself. like It really does. Someone. And and again, i we have, we have this on recording. We're releasing it out into the world. um We will fucking timestamp this if we need to. It is 1241 central on May 14th, 2025. So if you know, anyone submits a script to Hollywood after that fact, we, we've got the timestamp right here.
01:13:57
Speaker
yeah. um Yeah, I would 100%. I would watch the shit out of that. Absolutely. me too.
Critics' Scores and Personal Ratings
01:14:02
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um And so, yeah, um the ah Tomatometer score on this one's a 57, which rude.
01:14:09
Speaker
ah The critics consensus ripoff of other sci-fi thrillers. Fuck you, critics. There's difference between homage and ripoff, and this is not a fucking ripoff. This not a ripoff. No, not at all. If this is a ripoff, then so is Scream.
01:14:24
Speaker
um And it's not. it's Like I said, there's a difference. It's a big difference. No, I agree with you. I'm just saying no one calls Scream a ripoff because it was successful. ah But this one you can call a ripoff because it wasn't. That's bullshit.
01:14:38
Speaker
um Metascore, on the other hand, 61 based on generally favorable reviews from 19. A little better. little better, but better nonetheless. And so what are you, what do you think Letterboxd has this ranked at, Tucker?
01:14:54
Speaker
I'm going to say... I don't know. i think I think the meme kids would like this one enough not to make a meme review.
01:15:06
Speaker
going to say this is between... shit. 3.7 and 4.1. 3.4. A little high. What? little high.
01:15:17
Speaker
Bullshit. A little high. What are you giving out of five stars, Tucker? This is a solid, solid four. Same. 100%. Solid it four.
01:15:28
Speaker
yeah i like I like this one. This is the probably the third time I've seen this movie over the last several years. think the first time I watched it was for one of my Halloween watch throughs. The first one I did actually in 2019.
01:15:41
Speaker
And this is one of the one of the ones one of the few from that time frame that I've returned to. Like this one's so much fun. Again, I want to own it. it's It's such a goofy, silly, fun movie, but... Well, it's so straightforward, too. like there's It's not necessarily a turn your brain off kind of thing, but also you don't have to think too hard about any of this shit.
01:16:00
Speaker
Exactly. This movie holds your hand, but not in a way that's condescending. Yep. In a way that's just they're like, we just come on, we got to go. We got to go. Let's go. Let's go. We got to go. yeah but it it Yeah, it's not condescending. It's not talking down to its audience. It trusts its audience to be paying attention, but it'll also, you know, thread the needle when it needs to. And and the cast, the hard to fuck around and and go wrong with this cast, honestly. So...
01:16:25
Speaker
um Oh, yeah. Jordana Brewster is the journalism teacher or maybe like, yeah, like we got we we got everyone. We can just plug everyone into like a new. This would work. Damn it. ah Yeah. Cleo Duvall is the English professor.
01:16:38
Speaker
And, you know, they don't even have to. It would be a stretch if they all taught like at the same school. So you'd have Jordana Brewster. She would be she would be part of the local newspaper. There it is. Yeah. Or or on ah maybe an anchor like a TV reporter or something or a blogger.
01:16:55
Speaker
Yeah. Ooh, there we go. Like some conspiracy blog because she lived through this alien shit. And like all these people have this stigma because they lived through this alien shit. Seriously, someone, please, please let me do this.
01:17:09
Speaker
i I would, I don't know if it would be a hit, but it would be a, it would be good. um So yeah, there it is That's, that's, that's the ranking for the faculty. God, this movie is fun.
01:17:20
Speaker
um It would, the sequel would be called the student body. Ooh, there we go. Faculty two, colon, the student body. Yeah. There it is. I like it. Yeah, it, it, yeah, I think it works.
Audience Engagement and Rewards
01:17:33
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01:18:44
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uh, get together to talk about, uh, the apprentice, the 2024 Sebastian Stan, Jeremy strong film, the apprentice. So good. Something we did. Yeah. Good combo.
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Um, and yeah, that's all available for our patrons. Uh, and as soon as I figure out, um, what I'm doing, uh, we'll probably also try to get some of the, uh,
01:19:08
Speaker
old episodes of rule thirds up there behind the paywall as well. oh I keep forgetting about that. The stuff with Wells, you has distracted me. Yeah.
New Podcast Introduction and Tucker's Contributions
01:19:15
Speaker
Speaking of, I'm your host, Stephen Foxworthy.
01:19:19
Speaker
I'm ah the co-host of this show, but also the co-host of a new show with friend of our show, Hope Lickner, or I'm sorry, Hope Stow. Now she got married. I keep forgetting that.
01:19:31
Speaker
um But a friend of the show, Hope Stow, she and I are hosting a show called Wells University, all about ah the great Orson Welles. At this point, I think we have one episode out. The second episode will be dropping next Tuesday about the years leading up to the birth of Orson Welles.
01:19:48
Speaker
ah But we're planning on taking the next several years of our lives to tackle um the body of work that exists between for for one of our favorite objects of curiosity in history is the great Orson Welles. So, um and it's a, it's a tortured relationship, particularly for hope and listen to the podcast to figure out why.
01:20:10
Speaker
um But yeah, we're having a lot of fun with it. We just recorded an episode last night as of the date of this recording, and it was a lot of fun and we'll probably be recording another one here in the next few weeks or so. um But yeah, check it out um wherever your podcasts are sold.
01:20:25
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If you're a patron, you the the first episode dropped behind the paywall, so you've got access to that. so um You can find me at Chewy Walrus on ah Blue Sky and Letterboxd, and that's it. That's pretty much all I'm using these days.
01:20:40
Speaker
um Don't find Brett on social media. He doesn't want to be found. ah Tucker, what about you? I'd like to mention that I can personally vouch for Wells University because I have listened to the first two episodes as I am producing this podcast. You are our producer, a thing we finally mentioned in episode six because we hadn't locked you down until then.
01:21:05
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Yes, so not only do I enjoy the podcast, but i got a little skin in the game too. You do, and you're making us sound real good. and real So go go check it out. Go check it out because ah like it's good and you know that since I'm ah behind the scenes on it, it's not going sound like shit.
01:21:24
Speaker
Correct. so I mean, it's the it's one of the main reasons this show doesn't sound like shit because otherwise it would. you Maybe. Sometimes it would, yeah. I remember before I started editing for you guys, sometimes you guys would accidentally sound good.
01:21:38
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Yeah. It wasn't intentional, I assure you. No. You begged us. You're like, please, guys, let me edit for you. Please let me edit. Please. Jeez Louise. Oh, man. Yes, but you can still find me on Instagram. I have been posting a little bit here and there recently.
01:21:56
Speaker
Um... And on YouTube at Ice909, that's I-C-E-N-I-N-E, the number zero and the number nine, Tuck Bugs still exists but is still in limbo.
01:22:09
Speaker
But if you have not checked out Tuck Mugs, if you haven't pulled the trigger on that, it's Tuck underscore Mugs on Instagram. but And there it is. We did it, Tucker. We talked about the faculty. This has been one I've been looking forward to talking about for a long time. So I'm finally glad we got to pull the trigger on this one.
01:22:27
Speaker
Can I tell you what my roommate said to me last night? What's that? I told her, I said, she was going to bed. i was like, I'm going to go watch the faculty now for the pod. And she's like, you get to watch a good movie.
01:22:39
Speaker
Because I always complain about all the horrid shit you make me watch to my roommate. And she's like, oh, you actually get to watch a good movie this week. And I was like, yeah, can't wait. We do watch a lot of bullshit on this podcast, for sure. some Sometimes, though, and i but again, a part of that is the nature of the podcast, part of the the nature of the concept.
01:22:57
Speaker
But every now and again, ah a good movie slips through the cracks and doesn't get a sequel.
Future Content Planning and Teasers
01:23:02
Speaker
uh and those and that's why i kind of want to space those out like we're five years in and there's a lot we still haven't covered and that's intentional because i'm not the let's just blow it because we have it like there are a few things i want to keep in my back pocket for for special occasions so this is this is one of this was the time it was time was right for the faculty so i'm glad we got to cover it dude yeah me too And so we'll be back next week with another failed franchise starter to coincide with a new release.
01:23:32
Speaker
um And we've got a guest scheduled for next week too. One of Tucker's favorites. So it's going to be a good time. So stay tuned for that. um This has been the disenfranchised podcast for myself, Stephen Foxworthy ah and for Tucker, the absent Brett, right until next time class dismissed, or should I say school?