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228 - Gamera the Brave (2006)
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“For Toto!”
Big in Japan 2: Even Bigger continues this week as we take on the reboot of that other kaiju film franchise out of Japan! Along the way, we discuss the key differences between Gamera and the Wu-Tang Clan, “Superbook,” “The Flying House,” and our Saturday morning cartoon viewing habits, a not-insignificant rundown of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre franchise, Bamboozled DVDs, and so much more!
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Introduction & Podcast Theme
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The franchise rights alone will make us rich beyond our wildest dreams.
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franchise right alone will make us rich beyond our wildest dream closing my Pokemon. And with that, we are the Distant Franchise Podcast, that podcast all about those franchises of one, those films that fancy themselves full-fledged franchises before falling flat on their face after the first film.
00:00:41
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i am your host, Stephen Foxworthy, and yes, I am doing this for Toto. And joining me, as always, the man who's been Bogart in that heart-shaped rock pretty much the entire fucking time, Tucker. Tucker. Hey, Tucker.
00:00:55
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Hello, Steven. How are doing tonight, ma'am? Doing pretty okay. was a good day. Good. It was a good day. Good. I didn't do anything. Good. didn't anything today. It was great.
00:01:06
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Like, I have, I usually make myself a little tookie-doo list every day just to make sure I'm doing the things.
Daily Planning and Movie Selection
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I don't want to forget to do something or neglect something. Sure.
00:01:16
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So I make myself little lists, but I didn't have a list today. oh The only thing that I had to do today outside of like the care of children was i had to record this podcast and watch the movie.
00:01:30
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And what movie are we watching today, Tucker? We're watching Gamera the Brave from 2006. Is it 2006? It is 2006. I think it is. I got it wrong on the thing.
00:01:41
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So that's my bad. From 2006, it is Gamera the Brave, ah ah directed by Ryuta Tasaki, ah written by Yukari ta Tatsui.
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ooh I'm so sorry. um You're doing your best, Steven. We know you're doing your best.
Diving into Gamera the Brave
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I'm i'm doing something. And starring Ryo, Tomioka, Kanji, Tsuda, Kaho, Sumusu, Terajima, and many, many others whose names I am unfortunately not doing a great job with.
00:02:14
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What a cast. Tucker, what a picture. And why are we covering Gamera the Brave this week? ah I don't know. Why are we covering Gamera of the Brave this week? Because it's week three of our our third consecutive theme month, Big in Japan 2, colon, even bigger.
00:02:35
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And let me tell you, I didn't think I was going to like any of the movies this month. And so far, um yeah like the last two movies we watched, I couldn't even imagine that they would have been that bad.
00:02:47
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Like they exceeded, far exceeded my expectations of how bad they were going to be. But this movie? don't know, man. It was kind alright. I didn't hate it. I didn't mind it all.
00:02:58
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Look, i'm not I didn't love it, but I did not mind watching it. I was like, this is okay. This is fine. It's that there were a couple instances... um when the the bad monster was just eating people, like, they didn't show it, but still, that's fucking grisly, dude. Like, compared to the rest of the tone of the rest of this movie, right that was fucking grisly. And it kind I kind of had to think back, like, well...
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I remember some, a bunch of kids movies when I was a kid that had some grizzly shit in it. And maybe I'm being a little too s sensitive, but that's what I texted. I was like, this shit got real dark.
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You did. Yeah. Cause we were having a great time, dude. We're having a great time. And then this dude, like the little kid's trap and the monster is just with his sharp teeth going in and just murder, like bisecting people.
00:03:48
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And the worst part is, is they don't show it. right You have to imagine, it's like the old like universal horror, like they don't show that shit and your imagination is way fucking nastier and more disturbing than they could ever do justice to on the screen.
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So it's even worse that they didn't show it. like I was like, oh fuck, this took a took a dark turn. how ah you we should We should mention that when you say we here, you are referring to yourself and whom else?
00:04:14
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I watched this with the boy, my roommate's son, who is three years old. and And what were his overall feelings, first of all, toward that scene in particular, and then just the movie and Gamera as a whole?
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Well, I don't think... With that scene, I don't think he really understood what was going on. Okay. um Because he's this he's a smart little dude. Right. But still, like the way they just sort of implied that's what was happening, I don't think he has a cynical enough of a brain at the moment to really... like grasp what was happening right um he liked the rest of it as a whole he really liked it when the turtle was tiny he really liked the tiny turtle and when the tiny turtle would fly he thought that was amazing the best thing ever he's gonna grow up thinking that turtles are capable of flight thanks to this movie we're gonna have to get him a flying turtle
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that That shouldn't be that hard. No, we could find one, I'm sure. No, when Gamera blew up, I'm sorry, when Toto blew up the other monster, this boy put his hands in the air like our boy Hero from Heroes. Right. And was like, we did it!
00:05:31
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but I was like, damn right we did. We got that dude. We tickled that monster until he fell asleep in a bunch of pieces. That's the most adorable thing. And of course, since you you refer to him as the boy pretty constantly, I thought you were referring to Toru, the main character of this film. And I was like, well, yeah, he he he absolutely did it.
00:05:49
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He gave him the the heart-shaped rock that and like gave him the power to win. And you're like, no, asshole. The kid I i watch. the The boy. My boy.
00:06:00
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Right. Capital t capital B, the boy. Yes. And i tried to I tried to get all like... ah uh i don't know i don't know what i was trying to do but at the beginning ah because he's half korean and so i was like i was like look boy i didn't call him boy in that instance but i'm also not gonna say his name on the podcast nor should you and i understand it's like i was like boy look at look at that little boy like like that's you kind of look like that little boy right like that's cool and he was like
00:06:35
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Who gives a shit? I was like, oh, what are you now when's cool that's cool. No, I was just trying to help you to like appreciate representation. And like, you know, if I don't know, of I was basically being a white person. i was being like, I was being, ah i was trying to be too,
00:06:58
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like progressive and be like, Hey, look at the lod point out. And he's like, nobody gives a shit. I'm just trying to watch camera, dude. And I'm like, this is fair. ah That's fair. And you, I am, I've been put in my place. I'm in my place right now.
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And I'm okay with that because maybe it's not always about that.
00:07:20
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Maybe I put thoughts into people's heads. I don't know. i Maybe. I wouldn't put it past you, quite frankly. um Now, before we started recording, Tucker, you mentioned that you have a personal history with this franchise, with this character. I will tell you, I'll i'll get into mine when you're done because I know you want to, okay you kind of want to go off.
Personal History with Gamera Franchise
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But no, what is your what is your hit personal history with with the Gamera franchise, the Gamera character?
00:07:46
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lay it Lay it on us, ma'am. Well, I have never had any interest in ah giant monster movies. um At all.
00:07:58
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um I don't have anything against them. They're cool, I guess. And some of them I even like. I liked Shin Godzilla. Shin Godzilla ruled. It's the R episode of Shin Godzilla. With last week's guest Samuel Dumas.
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This movie? This was fine. Yeah. But let me tell you... I have seen every Gamera movie that has been on Mystery Science Theater 3000.
00:08:22
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Okay, i was I had a feeling that was where we were going with this, but I just wanted i wanted you to close the loop on my assumption. And boy, of all the franchise that franchises that they've covered, I think they've covered more Gamera movies than any other franchise.
00:08:37
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That tracks, actually. And ah those movies suck. Like they're really, really bad. They're like, they're like for kids, but like in a pandering stupid way, not in like a rad way like this movie.
00:08:55
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So it's like like, oh, these kids are little idiots. So we're just going to treat like little idiots and give them a little idiot movie. They're like, ah they're, they're the, the cinematic equivalent of like ah a children's edutainment show.
00:09:07
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Which one is the box? Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. You're right. Great job. Yeah. yeah Those old Gamera movies suck, dude.
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They're all like every fucking one of them is on Amazon Prime. And I have now after I finished this movie last night, I was just like, do I just do I just become Gamera guy? Like, do I just know start from the beginning and watch all these damn things?
00:09:34
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No, no, I am told just treasure this one. Okay. I'll get into the history of the Gamera franchise here in a little bit, but um yeah for me, my history is that I knew Gamera was a thing.
00:09:48
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And I think it was when I was creating the list that would through a long circuitous series of events lead to this podcast. um I was I,
00:10:01
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to make a long story longer, I decided one day that maybe I would want to host a podcast someday about franchises and like just go through whole film franchises with people. wow well And so I made a list of every film franchise that had more than three entries.
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um And then I found out there was a podcast that already had that conceit called Runaway Franchise, which was a great podcast. And I listened to every episode of that and was actually in communication with those guys. And those guys are...
00:10:29
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great And I've kind of wanted to have one or two of them on the show if I can figure out how to reach back out to them, but I have no idea how. So if they're listening, hey, invitations open, let us know.
00:10:40
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um But one of the franchises, after I went through the Toho franchise, I was like, Gamera is a monster. Why isn't Gamera on this list? And then I realized Gamera is a different studio and Gamera and Godzilla never crossed over.
00:10:53
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So that was a separate franchise entry list. And none of those monsters ever crossed over with anything else because D. Say the, I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly, but the, yeah the studio in charge of Gamera was pretty much like, well,
00:11:09
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We're not going to cross Gamera over with any of our other properties. Like, it's just going to be its own thing. Because they also had, like... um There was another series of movies that they had that was, like, um classic Japanese horror monsters called The Yokai.
00:11:29
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Oh, like that was another. Yeah, that was another franchise that they had That's wild because I thought like the reason they wouldn't want to cross Gamera with any of the other monsters is because Gamera is I mean, he's friend to children and they are geared. All those movies are geared towards kids. And though like Godzilla and Mothra and all that shit aren't extremely violent, it's still kind of more geared towards adults.
00:11:55
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Yeah. um And then you say they did like horror. I thought like maybe the company was like too wholesome for it, but apparently not. The other thing that they did, a couple other things, they did one called Daimajin, which was like a giant ah demon warrior, like demon warrior God. And there were three of those.
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And then they did, they were also responsible, flashback to last week, for the Zatoichi films. hey, did all the good ones. the grounds the ones that The ones that Sam actually liked. yeah Not that trash that we that we saw last week.
00:12:31
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ah The studio's name is Daiea. D-A-I-E-A. Daiea Film. word Do you know what that roughly translates to? I do not. Okay. Sorry. that's If anyone is, ah if Japanese is on anybody's Duolingo, ah drop in the comments what maybe that means.
00:12:51
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or you can also hit us up, disenfranchepod at gmail.com. That's true. um But they also did like Akira Kurosawa's Rashomon. They also did Ugetsu.
00:13:03
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These are things I've heard of, yes. They did like some high art shit and then they did just like... giant monster franchises too. So like they had their kind of like foot in both worlds. It's so weird that the Gamera movies were so bad then. Like if all of their other movies are, you know, some of those movies that you mentioned are in the Criterion collection.
00:13:25
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Right. But not the Gamera ones. No, fuck the old, fuck every Gamera movie except for this one. Okay. And maybe that's ah one of the reasons why I like this so much.
00:13:36
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Well, I wouldn't say I liked it, but I say, I didn't mind it. It was my stance on it. is It was perfectly fine. Like I, this one feels like ET, but with Gamera is what this movie really feels like. Tiny turtle. Hey question.
00:13:51
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Yeah. Um, I was watching this with three-year-old boy, so he was also you know doing other things, jumping off of the highest thing that he could find and like getting all of my things and trying to ruin them.
00:14:05
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So I kind of have to look at him, too. And I missed why the the neighbor girl was in the hospital. I missed that, too, ah because I had to step out of the room to get a drink. so i Well, you could pause that.
00:14:18
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I could have, but I didn't. Okay. We both missed why. Well, I'll tell you what, maybe this episode isn't the episode to bring back the plot in 60 seconds, Steven, because I don't know what, why the fuck that girl's in the hospital one day, like she's just right at the window hanging out. And then the next day she's all laid up in the hospital.
00:14:39
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We don't know what happened. Oh, okay. Here we go. i'm the The plot synopsis on Wikipedia, come to my aid. ah Toru has friends, but has a fear of being left alone because he is plagued by memories of his late mother and Kawusuke having to work so much
Movie Analysis: Themes and Effects
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to support the family.
00:14:57
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Toru's fears are intensified when he finds his friend and neighbor Mai has to undergo dangerous heart surgery. Oh, so it was like something, she just had to go do surgery. It wasn't like something, okay.
00:15:09
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I thought it was, I also thought it was related somehow to the larger plot, but apparently no. And see, that was that was something I was struggling with in this film, is I was reading as many of the subtitles as I could. Right. and But also, like I say, i had three-year-old with me, so I also had to pay attention to what he was doing so that he did not die, nor did he kill me.
00:15:33
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or ruin any of your stuff. and five Right. Jeez Louise. I take it. He did end up ruining your stuff. No, he knows, he knows the rules. He really likes my card games. I have, um, like, uh, meals borns, uh, the French card game and blink and ah ah couple other ones. Uh, what's the one snap, not snap. What's it fucking called?
00:15:59
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Skipbo? Skipbo, yeah. You know, all those games with cards and bicycle colors. ah yeah i'm I'm a fan of games with cards. And this boy is also a fan of cards. So whenever he comes in my rooms, he goes straight for...
00:16:13
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my board games right the game shelf back there yes and there are some card games there and he always wants to play with the cards and i we have a set of rules we have no bending and no biting no throwing no sitting or jumping on no tearing or does that go with bending Oh, yes. No tearing is actually before no biting.
00:16:44
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Right. sure why I skipped the first rule. But anyway, I've been imparting these rules upon him every time he plays with my cards and he's followed them pretty well. There are a few times where I was like, no, that that counts as biting. It's straight in your mouth, dude.
00:16:58
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In your mouth. That counts. But today I didn't say it. He said it to me like I gave him the cards and he was like, no tearing, no biting, no bending, no throwing. And was like, yeah, dude.
00:17:14
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Yeah, you got it. Smart kid. Yeah. Almost as though he has been indoctrinated with those rules from a very young age. Yeah, dude. You can play with my stuff, but don't break it.
00:17:27
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i mean, that's just a good rule for all of us, really. Yeah. when When we allow another person to play with our stuff, they they don't break it. But I feel like you have to emphasize that with with younger toddlers. mean, yes, obviously.
00:17:40
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For sure. They're ah they're they they're developmentally at ah developmentally at a point where ah self-control is not really a thing. its Well, it's not their it's not their strong point.
00:17:52
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Yeah, it's not developed yet. No. Working on it. I mean, some people never really develop a sense of self-control, so. No. Sounds like he's well on his way to becoming a fairly well-rounded individual, which, good for you guys.
00:18:06
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I'd like to think I have a part in that. I mean, yeah, you you you do watch the boy on a regular basis. so Well, I'll tell you, before he went to preschool, I was i was kind of his primary caregiver.
00:18:19
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Well, there you go. But it's good it's good that he's in preschool. I mean, we still see each other. We still hang out. It's good that he's you know interacting with with his peers. Yeah, able to socialize. Absolutely, socialization is important.
00:18:36
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It's where we learn other sets of boundaries, social boundaries, etc. So, yeah, right on. But but he was ah he was a big fan of Gamera because Gamera, like the Wu-Tang Clan after him, is for the children.
00:18:48
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so Now, Wu-Tang is for the children, yes, but Gamera is friend to children. Gamera and children? Homies. Right.
00:19:00
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Yeah. Now the Wu-Tang, they're for the children, but I don't know if like they kick it with kids. Like they're not like hanging out with some kids. Gamera. Gamera will hang out with some kids. We'll just chill. Like you saw it in this movie.
00:19:13
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Yeah. It's hanging out with like four or five different kids. Man, I'll tell you what. Like this is a cute movie. That's what I will say. This is a cute movie. It is. It's charming. And not in the way my parents use that term. My parents will use that term for any movie that they just, like, they kind of like.
00:19:32
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Oh, it's a cute little thing, yeah. Very, very dismissive, kind of. But no, this is a cute movie. is. And when all those kids are passing that stone to get it to the, like, that was some 80s movie kid adventure shit.
00:19:45
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I was going to say, this movie owes a lot to Amblin and Steven Spielberg and the... And... children's cinema in the yeah like it's like this Goonies like and but again like all those movies are Amblin films so like E.T. and Goonies and Gremlins to a lesser extent not really you know like kids but Explorers Gerdante's Explorers like all kind of fit within that monster squad even I'd say 100% I don't think that's Amblin but yes absolutely qualified mean close enough but it's in that half that same yeah has that same vibe
00:20:22
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But this leans into the more E.T. kind of heartwarming thing in ways that like Explorers and Goonies really don't as much. Goonies has some of that, but like this this movie is E.T. with Kaiju is what is is how I felt when I was watching this movie.
00:20:41
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Like it just felt very much like a Spielberg, early eighty s Spielberg kids like movie movie. like four quadrant hit for kids and grownups alike.
00:20:53
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um And i just, yeah, it was charming. It charmed the pants off me. I thought it was a great, great little film. Yeah. Yeah. It's nice. It's fun. it It is. It's it's a fun time.
00:21:03
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It is. yeah It's, it's on Amazon prime right now. And honestly, i if you haven't watched it yet, go watch it. It's 95 minutes. And there's the cutest real turtle.
00:21:16
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There's like for half of this movie. Yeah. The turtle is like normal baby turtle size. And it's the cutest little turtle. And it just kind of shuffles along.
00:21:27
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And it's really cute. And at one point, it floats around and flies. And even that is cute. And the best part is like, yeah, ah Toto gets bigger. And like at one point, he's kind of giant, you know, at the end when he's fighting that other monster.
00:21:41
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Right. But because they know that we all love baby Toto, they bring him back for the credits. they they Half of the credits is B-roll of baby Toto.
00:21:54
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Correct. and it's And it's one of the best times I've had in a while. Yes. You just get to watch that little guy just roaming around Japan and you love every second of it. He's at the skate park.
00:22:06
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You know, he's everywhere. Just having the best time. Just having the time and care of the world. love it You know what's weird, though? This reminds me of this thing that I'm always thinking of when like animals are actors.
00:22:21
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They don't know they're on film, dude. They don't know that like like right now, if that turtle is still alive, which turtles live a long time. For example, the turtles from the original Rocky, Sylvester Stallone still has those turtles. Cuff and Link are still alive.
00:22:38
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We love to see it. Turtles live so long. So this turtle is probably still alive. That's awesome. And I don't know where I was going with that. but i think hes You think he's a giant turtle that like lives in lives somewhere in the waters off the coast of Japan? No, I think he's a normal-sized turtle.
00:22:57
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I don't think that turtle would probably get much bigger than he was. don't know why it was. Depends on atmosphere. i think it has to do with like the size of the enclosure.
00:23:09
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Yeah, but Cuff and Link are still alive. Right. That's a real thing. um I know. But that's... How insane is that? Not that... I mean, given given the life average lifespan of a turtle, not terribly.
00:23:21
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Well, it's pretty insane when I hadn't considered how long, like, just regular-ass turtles. Like, the tortoises I get. Those big motherfuckers. Oh, yeah. Those things are, like, 100 years old. Yeah, yeah, I get that. They look ancient.
00:23:34
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Tortoise is not an ocean. Tortoise is land. If you put a tortoise in water, it will drown. Oh, that's no good. No. he can't leave tur Sea turtles only in in in the ocean. Tortoises, no. Do not throw a tortoise into the ocean.
00:23:47
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see I don't know anything about turtles, but I'll tell you what, they're cute as hell. Yeah. And the way they flop their little feet while they're walking. So sassy. Flop, flop, flop, flop.
00:24:01
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Sassy little bastards. No, the baby turtle was fucking adorable. And then, honestly, Gamera puppets were really adorable, too. Yeah, they were cute. Big doe eyes and...
00:24:16
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And they were good, too. I mean, I think outside of the very largest one, there was some obvious like bending and and crinkle in the neck when he would move his head. Right. That was very indicative of a costume or a puppet, you know.
00:24:32
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But outside of that, they were really good looking puppets. Yeah. The, eve I mean, you could tell toward the end, just particularly with the the dragon monster, Zeebus, the evil monster, um you could tell that was a person in a suit, like yeah very, very much like almost like Xenomorph kind of that's a person in a suit kind of stuff.
00:24:53
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But then like Totoro wasn't up until the end that you clocked. Oh, right. That's a person in a suit. Like for most of the movie, he's going around on all fours, which I understand is not necessarily something that Gamera does.
00:25:05
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Well, I mean, there was one part where it was awkward because you could see like most of the time when he was on all fours, they shot him from an angle where it didn't look weird, but they shot him from a low angle and you could see like the human legs were bent.
00:25:21
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Right. So that he could crawl. Right. And it's like, yeah. maybe Maybe that's not the angle of that you want to cut into this part. That feels like one of those, damn it, we didn't shoot enough coverages is all we've got kind of things. but Yeah.
00:25:38
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and But I kind of found that charming too. Like the little flubs here and there. i think that part of the charm of these kinds of movies, honestly. and The rest of it was so well done.
00:25:50
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Like the cinematography was good. Like at the beginning of this movie, I was like, wait, am I going to like this movie? This is pretty well shot. Like this is this looks good. In fact, the beginning of it during the opening credits and just the way that it was kind of moving through scenes and shots and stuff very much reminded me of some of the more serious Ghibli movies, stuff like when Marnie was there.
00:26:16
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Hmm. kind of reminded me of that of that tone the flow of the editing right uh so like from the very beginning i was like i think i i think i might like this i don't know we'll see but like and you've been more positive on it than anything else we've watched so far this month or are likely to watch for the rest of the month yeah dude i'm man i'll tell you what what have you got any japanese culture man I'm glad you brought that up because I was about to bring that up. I don't have anything against Japanese culture or more specifically Japanese pop culture, but it's one of those things like boat movies, like films that have very limited color palettes that no matter how much I try, it's very difficult for me to enjoy it. like ah ah
00:27:08
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Japanese culture and Japanese pop culture is super valid and very rad, but
00:27:16
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it just rubs me the wrong way. And not because like of any sort of feelings I have towards anyone or anything. It's just my brain's like, no, we don't like that. Now, there are some exceptions. one of One of my top five favorite films is an anime film. And I i just mentioned it when Marnie was here, which is probably the most underrated Ghibli movie.
00:27:38
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um So I appreciate it when it's good. I'm able to appreciate it and look past. um the the roadblocks that my brain puts in my way, but it takes something something special for me to be able to appreciate it.
00:27:57
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I was kind of... similar I mean, I never engaged with Japanese culture whatsoever when I was a kid. Like, I think my my first foray into anime was Superbook, if you remember the show Superbook.
00:28:11
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I remember Superbook, and you know what was the prequel that came before Superbook, Steven? ever watch The Flying House? The Flying House was the Prometheus of Superbook. In fact, The Flying House was...
00:28:26
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was the the prequel series. I mean, it came before, so... I mean, super buck Superbook was a sequel. And in some ways, a it's kind of like Evil Dead 2. Superbook is like the Evil Dead 2 to Flying House.
00:28:41
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Because it kind of remakes it, but it changes it a bit so that it it fits the narrative it's trying to do in that. So, like, Superbook is the same thing as the Flying House.
00:28:53
Speaker
It's just the the the vessel is different. They do the same thing. The Flying House and the Superbook do the same thing. They they let you experience Bible stories.
00:29:04
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Yep. Flying house brought you back. Super book brings you back. It's the same thing. It's just, they were like the house that's not working so much da anymore. Let's do a Pokedex.
00:29:16
Speaker
Yeah. How about we just do a Pokedex is a thing. yeah The proto Pokedex, the thing that would become the Pokedex. Yeah. And that's the strange thing, Steven, because I was very into the flying house and super book when that was ah on syndication or whatever it was playing on when I was a kid.
00:29:34
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I think it was on the the religious channel, WHMB TV40. Ah, probably. It's probably out early in the morning. I imagine I probably watched it because they used to play Rocky and Bullwinkle on Channel 4, but it was at 4 in the morning.
00:29:51
Speaker
I would get up that early to start watching cartoons. Me too. That's how I know what about Tennessee Tuxedo and Beanie and fucking Cecil are you because of that.
Cultural Impact and Influences
00:30:01
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All the good cartoons were on ridiculously early in the morning. So I guess they expected you to either be like a speed freak or like a kid with ADHD. Yeah.
00:30:15
Speaker
Like one of those two things you were is the perfect time slot. I don't know what it was. I well actually I do know what it was because my pet we lived about a half an hour to 45 minutes away from where my parents worked and where my sister and I went to school.
00:30:30
Speaker
So we would have to get up ridiculously early to make it to that side of town with rush hour. Because my parents would have to drop us off and then go to work. And they started early. So we would have to get up ridiculously early in the morning. So I would get up early in the morning on Saturdays and be like, hey – Can we yeah wake up? Let's do something My parents are like, we're sleeping in leave us alone.
00:30:53
Speaker
And eventually they taught me how to turn on the TV so I could just get up and start watching cartoons without bothering them. Exactly. And so that's what I started doing probably around the age of five or six is getting up ridiculously early in the morning to watch like reruns of cartoons that were old when my parents were kids.
00:31:14
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Uh, similarly, but also very differently. um I just got up that early cause I wanted to watch the cartoons. Like my bus, when I was in elementary school and middle school, my bus didn't come until like maybe seven, seven 30.
00:31:29
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And I probably like my mom didn't even get up till six, but your boy was up at four o'clock in the morning watching Rocky and Bullwinkle. Of course.
00:31:41
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And um honestly, like, I'm kind of coming to this realization now that i I feel like that is kind of the earliest thing, earliest media that i interacted with that really shaped me. Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:01
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was Rocky and Bullwinkle. The other stuff, like, it's fine. Like, I liked it Ghostbusters, cool. Like, and eventually that shaped me, you know. Same thing with Ninja Turtles. Like, eventually that stuff, you know, became part of who I was. But Rocky and Bullwinkle, from the start, it was like, yeah, you're that dude.
00:32:16
Speaker
I mean, Rocky and Bullwinkle were totemic, don't get me wrong, but it was Sesame Street and the Muppets for me. That was my gateway. But Rocky and Bullwinkle and the Looney Tunes are also like, again, totemic is the word.
00:32:31
Speaker
Absolutely. Like there they're up there. It's fantastic. Yeah. You know what else is fantastic? Gamera the Brave. Gamera the Brave. a And I love that his dad works in a restaurant and he's downstairs like constantly cooking food. And just every time he's about to go check on his son's welfare, someone will be like, hey, give me an order of this. And he's like, you got it.
00:32:54
Speaker
Well, I guess I gotta do that.
00:32:58
Speaker
Apparently the giant knife that falls down in front of baby Gamera when Toto is ah ah is a wee turtle is supposed to be a reference to like another monster from the Gamera franchise. Yeah.
00:33:11
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It's apparently a reference to Guiron, G-U-I-R-O-N, who is in Gamera versus Guiron. So yeah there yeah, apparently he just looks like a giant knife.
00:33:23
Speaker
tracks that's I know, i know. Man, I'm ashamed to say that I know exactly what you're talking about. I don't know. man should i Should I become a Gamera guy? I'm thinking I maybe should. and Look, I'd say give it a couple movies because none of them are any better or any worse than the others. you can watch any other Gamera movie and after a couple, you're either going to be into it or you're not.
00:33:50
Speaker
And I'm not going to judge you either way. Sure. I would hope not. ah Because, you know, everything's for somebody. Exactly. Not everything is for everybody, but some everything is for somebody.
00:34:03
Speaker
Like that old bullshit we watched the last two weeks? I fucking hated that. But, like, somebody's really into it. And that's rad. yeah That's really rad. I'm glad they like it. Not for me.
00:34:14
Speaker
Not for you. the ah So the Gamera franchise starts in 1965, 11 years after Godzilla kind of introduces the kaiju concept ah to Japan.
00:34:25
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um In the first movie, I think he's a turtle that's thawed out from ah and or from an Arctic glacier or something due to a nuclear test. Is that right? Does that sound right? Yes.
00:34:36
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um Yes. It's Godzilla with ice. Godzilla on ice. Godzilla on ice versus from the from the ocean. From from ah and water in a different form. Now all we need is Godzilla of the water vapor. That's what we need P.S.
00:34:48
Speaker
Also a turtle. And friend to children.
00:34:54
Speaker
Gamera is friend to children. Don't you ever forget it. Friend of all the children. Exactly. ah Like he he and Wu-Tang. um So there's eight films that comprise the original Gamera franchise.
00:35:07
Speaker
And I think the the final one, Gamera Super Monster in 1980, kind of closes out the franchise. see that one. um this ah From what I read, this is a franchise that was like, we don't want it to overtake Godzilla. We just want it to be able to exist alongside Godzilla. Godzilla is Godzilla.
00:35:24
Speaker
We're not trying to do that, but we want to just kind of do our own thing in that similar vein. And there's a lot of... I mean, they created a genre, so of course there's going to be...
00:35:36
Speaker
I mean, you don't do something that impactful and not expect for more people to try to do something similar, maybe with a different tone or or geared towards a different audience.
00:35:48
Speaker
it's It's something that we encounter. Right. And it's something we encounter a lot on this podcast. You know, something will come along and it's very popular. And so Hollywood's immediate knee jerk reaction is, well, let's do that.
00:35:59
Speaker
Let's do what they're doing, because that's the thing that will make us money. And so, you know, the Minecraft movie makes all the money in the world this past weekend, and we're going to get a shit ton more of those silly ass movies, I'm sure.
00:36:11
Speaker
Again, I'm glad. Honestly, look, I'm glad there's going to be sequels because that means that I never have to watch a Minecraft movie. yeah I'm never obligated to watch. I love you, Jack Black.
00:36:27
Speaker
Jason Momoa, you're cool. Everybody else involved. I'm sure you're great people. But this is its is not for me, and I'm not interested. know So I'm sure glad there's going to be 100 sequels because I will never be forced To watch a Minecraft movie.
00:36:45
Speaker
I'm so glad this movie is doing so well. Right. For selfish reasons. For extremely selfish reasons. I was all set and ready to put this one like on the end of the year schedule. But it turns out I will not need to.
00:36:59
Speaker
Yes. Did you watch the the Jack Black episode of SNL? I started to, and then I stopped. It was a little underwhelming. wasn't bad. yeah It's just that, I don't know, SNL's in a weird place right now.
00:37:14
Speaker
It is. There's some good stuff, but there's still kind of so many new people. They're kind of trying to figure it out.
00:37:25
Speaker
They are. It wasn't bad. The Jack Black episode wasn't bad. Sure. In fact, shit, I've got ah No, I watched that last night. I'm like, wait, I got to watch SNL tonight. Oh, it was so forgettable.
00:37:37
Speaker
I forgot I watched it last night. No, Jon Hamm was good. There were a couple of good sketches. I liked Jon Hamm, so was it was It was all right. He's all right. Yeah. So the first run of the Gamera franchise was from 1965 to 1980. It covers about 15 years. And then there's about 15-year break.
00:37:56
Speaker
and then there' is about a fifteen year break And just in time for the 30th anniversary of Gamera, we get a reboot trilogy. Oh, shit.
00:38:07
Speaker
Is it the first reboot? that This is not the first reboot. This is actually reboot number two. And like like comic books in the 1990s, when they went for the reboot, they decided to go for the slightly darker, grittier reboot.
00:38:20
Speaker
I've never seen the second Jin Gamera movie, but now that you say it's darker and grittier, I'm recalling images I may have seen like maybe in a magazine. Right. The impression that I get is that it's a much darker series than the original.
00:38:36
Speaker
and But Gamera's friend to children, though. How could you make it dark and gritty? I don't know. that would be like making That would be like making a dark and gritty version of mr Rogers. Yeah. I think for these that they just kind of lean a little more toward the Godzilla because Godzilla at this point is on like an incredibly lengthy hiatus is the impression that I get here.
00:38:57
Speaker
Like there's this long period of time where just Godzilla movies are not being made. And so as a result, we kind of have this the Gamera franchise trying to fill that gap.
00:39:09
Speaker
and kind of trying to be Godzilla for the people that are missing Godzilla. And so I think a lot of people are really drawn to that, um that element of it, and really like that the the the fact that there's now this kind of Godzilla-esque Gamera franchise that's out.
00:39:30
Speaker
This film is an attempt to pivot back to the original conceit. The Gamera is for the children conceit. And Gamera is friend to children, Steven. Wu-Tang is for the children. Gamera is friend to children.
00:39:45
Speaker
I feel like this is a semantic argument we're having. No, I'm telling you, look, i I realize that you feel that way, and I'm kind of surprised because it is. it's a It's a distinct difference. And I explained it to you before.
00:39:56
Speaker
I thought that would clear it up. And yet. Here we are. Here we are.
00:40:05
Speaker
That's fantastic, man. I don't know. I just work here, dude, man, dude, man. I don't know. I just, yeah, I'm just here. I'm just, I'm just here for the clicks, I guess. I don't know.
00:40:17
Speaker
But um so, so yeah, that's the, that from my understanding, that's kind of the impetus for that. And I think the reason that this film doesn't spawn the franchise that they're clearly hoping for is because so many people, it wasn't too far removed from that. The last film in that franchise came out in 99. Yeah.
00:40:34
Speaker
ah from the reboot franchise. And so this movie comes out not even 10 years after that. Like we're not far enough removed from that to where people aren't still big fans of it. And as we all know, when people are really big fans of things and a a minor or significant change is made to the subject matter in any way, ah people tend to not be so chill about it.
Gamera the Brave as a Legacy Sequel
00:40:58
Speaker
I just thought of something, Steven. Yeah. Do you remember the first scene of this movie? Yeah. Set in 1973. The Kaiju fight. Yes. And the dad is a child.
00:41:11
Speaker
Mm hmm. And OG Gamera. Mm hmm. Is fighting three like pterodactyl dudes. Yeah. Like they're fucking him up. They are. And he he explodes.
00:41:24
Speaker
Mm hmm. Self-destructs in point of fact. Yeah. Yeah. To to make sure that they're taken out. And so that the children are protected. Because Gamera is friend to children.
00:41:37
Speaker
but And I just realized this. I think this is like
00:41:44
Speaker
a like a Halloween alternate timeline sort of deal? Maybe. 1973. What if this is... What if this is 2018 Halloween of the gammerra franchise We're just going to ignore that reboot franchise.
00:42:05
Speaker
You had Rob Zombie did two movies. yeah That's cool. And H2O does exist. Actually, two through Resurrection exists, but we're going to ignore those. h Because 1973.
00:42:17
Speaker
So it's not the entire original timeline. It breaks off from the original timeline midway. in right before Right before Gamera Supermonster, which there is a nine-year gap between the the last Gamera film before that, Gamera vs. Zegra, and Gamera Supermonster in 1980. So I'm 71 to 80.
00:42:37
Speaker
So I'm glad that we're covering this because like it was kind of a breath of fresh air with this month that i I kind of loathe the sort of material that is involved with this month, generally.
00:42:49
Speaker
But... I think it's an alternate timeline sequel. Yeah. A legacy sequel. Yeah. a It's a legacy sequel. Yes. Yes, it is.
00:43:04
Speaker
And we're, way but it offshoots into a different timeline. That is an important distinction because not all legacy sequels do that. Correct. Yep. Of course you've got the Texas Chainsaw Massacre who that's probably the most infamous for that sort of thing. Cause there's, Oh my God, probably six different timelines.
00:43:20
Speaker
i feel like there, I feel like no two of those movies are really connected any way but that Leatherface is there. Brett said it really well in our ah Patreon episode of ah Unenfranchised where we covered um Texas Chainsaw Massacre 4.
00:43:37
Speaker
That was my first editing job for you guys. It was. that was That was that thing like... yeah There were pieces you couldn't put it together because it was all in pieces. And I was like, I got you. There were pieces and Brett had no patience for it at all. And he was our editor. So we're just like, oh, well, guess that's a lost episode.
00:43:53
Speaker
and then when you're like, dude, guys, I will edit for you. I will not charge you anything. Let me edit for you. We're like, you know what? Bet. And we passed you that. And you didn't even know what it was until you started listening.
00:44:05
Speaker
and you texted us back so fucking excited for the walk. Because you've been patron almost since day one. ah patron almost since day one Like before you were part of this podcast, you were a patron.
00:44:18
Speaker
I looked at the insights, and the only person who has paid more money to our Patreon is J.P. Leck, and it's by like five bucks. Yeah, because he he started literally like a week or two before you. go It's literally that minimal.
00:44:33
Speaker
I am the OG patron. It's like you, Joseph, and Hope are like the first three, and for a long time, the only three that we had for a while. Yeah. yeah We were pretty much making content just for the three of you at that point. But yeah.
00:44:47
Speaker
That's fantastic. But yeah. So so yeah you like I said, you were so excited. But yeah, no, you're right. The Texas Chainsaw is probably one of the most infamous in terms of like timeline buffoonery and different offshoots and things.
00:45:01
Speaker
And before we... It's the first four... I'm sorry. I was going to break it all down. No, go ahead. I just wanted to say before we break that down... That if you're not a patron, we have a free trial and it's enough so that you can listen to this episode of Unenfranchised on the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake.
00:45:23
Speaker
Platinum Dunes, it's the remake, right? No, because those all got sequels. No, it's the Unenfranchised on A New Beginning. the The first four. like Because the first four are their own thing. And then you get the Platinum Dunes reboot.
00:45:40
Speaker
Because the last one I think comes out in like 98 and then the Platinum Dooms reboot is 2003. So which one did you cover? When did that come out? The one that you covered? yeah I think that's the that's the ninety that's the late 90s one, not the early ninety s one, because the early one... You're saying The Next Generation. Are you talking about with... Matthew McConaughey? Matthew McConaughey. Yeah.
00:46:03
Speaker
That's why I was so excited. That movie is fantastic. Also, um yeah, so get the free trial, patreon.com slash disenfranchpod.com.
00:46:16
Speaker
That's it, right? Disenfranchepod, yeah. Patreon.com slash disenfranchepod. If you're not a patron, get the free trial. Listen to that episode. Because not only is it the first thing I ever edited for these guys, they gave it to me in several different audio files, and none of it was like...
00:46:35
Speaker
None of it was tagged or anything. I had to figure out what went where just based on context clues. I was like, oh, that kind of sounds like an answer. Like, it sounds like they're talking like it took me a while to stick. That was a stitch job.
00:46:49
Speaker
It was you. You were fucking Frankenstein on that. And boy, I was impressed with myself when I put that together. ah So impressed that I recorded a little intro. to to match the intro of the the original Texas Chainsaw when said, in 1978. That's right, you did.
00:47:06
Speaker
And I did, and it was, it's rad. I'm saying, if you're a patron and you haven't heard it, go back and listen to it. If you're not a patron, start that 70 trial and listen to it because it's ah it's great.
00:47:18
Speaker
It's a good stitch job. It's a good episode of the pod. The intro is fantastic. I'm proud of it. And you should be too, Steven. i I don't remember a lick of it, except that we I watched that movie and we recorded it. That was ah when I was in the middle of my let's watch all the Texas Chainsaw Massacre movies.
00:47:37
Speaker
No. So the timeline is thus. the The first four movies comprise their own timeline. That's the original timeline. So it's Chainsaw, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, Leatherface colon the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3. Underrated.
00:47:52
Speaker
And, okay, the return of the Texas Chainsaw Manager slash Texas Chainsaw Massacre. The Texas Chainsaw Manager is what you said. I am. I'm manager of the Texas Chainsaw Department here and straight up Walmart.
00:48:08
Speaker
Don't talk to Gary. He's in charge of the Wyoming Chainsaw Massacre Department. Yeah, nobody wants that. Nobody wants to go there. No. And then you have. but I'm just teasing you. You're fine. I, it's whatever.
00:48:19
Speaker
I'm like trying to talk and like swallow a berry. and well then you have the remake Then you have the remake timeline. Then you have the legacy sequel timeline.
00:48:30
Speaker
No, no, no. There's another one. there's There's two different remake timelines. There's the first one, which is Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2003 with Jessica Biel. With Jessica Biel, yeah.
00:48:41
Speaker
Yeah, and then Texas Chainsaw Massacre The Beginning, which is the prequel to that one. Yeah. And then you have the second reboot, which is Texas Chainsaw three d And then the prequel of that one.
00:48:54
Speaker
But that's a sequel though, because it's the girl, it's like his niece or something coming back to claim the house and he's there. no, no, no, no. You're right. It's sequel. It is a direct, it's the first like, like legacy sequel. That's like a sequel just to the, like just to the original that ignores all it's an alternate timeline. Yes. It's an it's a, it's a skew off into it. It's an, it's 1985.
00:49:17
Speaker
A. I'm saying. a yeah what i'm saying Right. Back to the future reference for those who know. um So, no, you're right. It is a direct sequel to the original film.
00:49:30
Speaker
And then Leatherface is another prequel to that one and the previous one. And then you get the 2022 film, which is the second or third direct sequel to the original film. the first. Yeah.
00:49:44
Speaker
And I liked that movie. I did not. liked that movie because... and From the first moment of it, I got the vibe of it. And I kind of got what they were doing.
00:49:55
Speaker
And i really I really enjoyed it. I really did. it kind of In a lot of ways, it reminded me of how my expectations were subverted with The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 with Dennis Hopper.
00:50:12
Speaker
It reminded me a lot of that movie. Not in content, but just in the way that it sort of... It was like, fuck this, I'm doing my own thing. Right.
00:50:23
Speaker
And I'm using these characters in ways that you don't even want me to. Like, fuck you. And that's what Tex Chainsaw Massacre 2 was. Fuck you, this is funny now. Fuck you.
00:50:34
Speaker
It was funny before, but y'all assholes didn't get it. So now I'm going to just be really fucking obvious with it. And that's what that that Netflix Texas Chainsaw was for me. I get why other people didn't enjoy it. But for me, that hit yeah perfectly. That is a movie that is just like, fuck, fuck my audience. I don't care about any of you fuckers.
00:50:53
Speaker
Yes, in the best way. I would say in the worst way, because it's valid. It's just mean, like it's just mean for no reason. and I hate that. i hate it when movies do that.
00:51:05
Speaker
But it's not mean-spirited. That's the thing. I think that's why I like it. No. No. No. The violence is still... You can't tell me that you give that ending and tell me that it's not mean-spirited. Because that ending is the biggest middle finger. i you could have They could have ended the movie like this, with a middle finger just facing the audience like that.
00:51:25
Speaker
And it could not have been a better but bigger middle finger than the one we got at the end of that movie. I'm sorry. You cannot tell the ending. i know. i will tell you the ending of that movie was fucked up.
00:51:38
Speaker
Yes, but it was still really silly. That's the thing. Like for me, that movie was it was a mean movie.
00:51:49
Speaker
to its characters and maybe to some fans of the series that, you know, hold some of that stuff precious. I mean, I'm not precious about it, but like that, but it was still like the violence was still silly and, and, and, uh, campy and over the top. Like it wasn't to me to be mean spirited is to shit. Like,
00:52:16
Speaker
Cannibal Holocaust. You ever see that, Steven? and I won't. That shit's mean-spirited. Don't want blood-sucking freaks. You don't don't watch that, Steven. That shit's mean-spirited. We're still having fun.
00:52:29
Speaker
Like, yeah, that ending is fucked up, but we're still having fun. For at least. They did Sally so, so dirty. So dirty. I thought that was hilarious. See, and I... Because for me, that's that's that's this film giving the middle finger to the standard legacy sequel.
00:52:49
Speaker
where the the original final girl comes back and it's a complicated thing of emotion, in which I'm into that. But this movie's like, no, no, no, no. Check this out, though. What if it's like for nothing?
00:53:02
Speaker
What if it's for nothing? What if this whole time she's been waiting for this moment and the motherfucker just kills her? What if? What if that happens instead? and Sally's one of the all-time final girls, though. like I don't know. like To do her that dirty, don't know. it's It's weird, Steven, because everything that happens in that movie, under normal circumstances, it's not something I would like.
00:53:24
Speaker
But within the context of the franchise, and where sequels and legacy sequels were at the time that that movie came out, it hit me just fucking right. Which is fair.
00:53:35
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Big fan. Speaking of legacy equals that hit just fucking right. Gamera the Brave! Only movie in the franchise worth looking at, in my opinion. I do kind of want to engage with the others just to kind of see what they're about.
00:53:54
Speaker
but Now, I'd be interested in seeing the the the first reboot because, like I say, now that you mention I do maybe in... Because I used to rent books from the library all the time about horror movies and monster movies and shit.
00:54:06
Speaker
So I'd have pictures and stuff in them. So i I feel like I've seen pictures of the grittier Gamera Because he certainly is. He's he's a lot sharper. Everything's darker. It's like it's raining all the time.
00:54:18
Speaker
It's that 90s comic book shit. like so I have images of that in my brain, but i don't I've never seen any of those. I'd be interested to give those a look, but the originals, dude, they suck.
00:54:29
Speaker
They're really, really bad. like Even for bad movies, they're bad.
00:54:35
Speaker
Like double, triple bad even. And I mean, part of it is like When you're a kid, right, there's the stuff that you watch and you really love and connect to. And for some people, that nostalgia just kind of carries over into adulthood. And so they're like, that's good because I liked it when I was a kid.
00:54:54
Speaker
yeah But then if you try to like show someone else that doesn't have that same connection or attachment to it, they look at it and go, this is the stupidest shit I've ever seen.
00:55:05
Speaker
um And sometimes I'll go back and watch some of the stuff I liked as a kid and I'm like, that's kind of dumb. Not going to lie. That's not particularly age well for me.
00:55:16
Speaker
and it's not even kind of a like, a oh, that's a joke. That's kind of touchy. But sometimes I'm just like, why did I, why was I entertained? by Well, because you were a kid. Right. Like there are things that have endured for me, things that I enjoyed from when I was a child that I've endured.
00:55:33
Speaker
But more often than not. most of that shit does not hold up. Right. No. And I'm, that's kind of where I stand too. And I feel like, like I'll still always love it. We'll still have the good times.
00:55:44
Speaker
Yeah. I still respect it. Like respect for entertaining me when I was a kid. Absolutely. But also, It doesn't work for me anymore. you know And a lot of the shit I watched as a kid was made for kids too. And that's another thing I have to kind of reckon with is the fact that I was a child. This is made for children. I'm no longer a child. This is no longer for me.
00:56:05
Speaker
That's why it's best as memories. Right. And I feel like for some people that was Gamera. um Yeah. And, i know, touch to engage with something made for kids as an adult, yeah.
00:56:16
Speaker
It's probably going to seem very, very silly. So I feel like within its proper context, it probably holds up a little better than you might imagine. But, you know, it's also a 60s budget, you know, Japanese giant monster movie. There's actually a name for the like special effects, heavy live action film um type stuff from Japan. And I'm trying to remember the name of it.
00:56:40
Speaker
ah Because it's actually kind of a cool name that starts with a T. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, I'm trying to I'm trying to figure it out here.
00:56:51
Speaker
Of course, I ran into it several times while I was reading up on this movie and franchise yesterday. And of course, now that I'm looking for it, I can't fucking find it. Whatever. It doesn't matter. Now, it is important to mention um that the director of this film is mostly known for Sentai series, TV series.
00:57:08
Speaker
Which makes a lot of sense, yeah. Which, yeah, especially with the... Well, actually, it's it kind of exceeds expectations because he does the giant monster stuff really well, but everything else is shot really well, too. And some of the shots are really interesting and really beautiful, but especially at the beginning.
00:57:28
Speaker
um The first half of the movie, there's some incredible shots. um But the Sentai is the the Japanese TV series that Power Rangers is...
00:57:41
Speaker
turned into it's well it's not even ripped off they actually use the scenes of the power rangers and power rangers are from the super sentai shows and then the other stuff is shot separately and they figure out how to put that together and i kind of think that's genius yeah because these writers for power rangers they're like okay we have all these fights that are filmed how do we piece that together narratively?
00:58:09
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Right. That's wild. Like you have to, Oh, man. And to sort of like keep up with the lore as you're going so that it's consistent. I do not envy those writers.
00:58:22
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That is for sure. They figured it out. I also think for the most part, they weren't taking it all that seriously. And they were able to like have a lot of fun with it. And, you know, you can tell episodes where they don't have a lot of footage because there's a lot of like extra bulk and skull in that episode where you've got like a whole like B and C plot with the two of them, but those guys like making mischief.
00:58:44
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Oh, man. but yeah So I would say... This movie is like if you gave a Sentai director, like the most competent Sentai director, a budget. And then like that's what this movie becomes, I think.
00:58:56
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And a really good DP, and it's really well lit. this movie like That's what comes with a budget, is all that shit. like you You can light a scene, you can hire a good DP. And you can tell this was shot on film just because the way it was lit.
00:59:13
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Yeah. Like, I really love the way that this movie was lit because it did kind of capture that sort of, you know, Gremlins, E.T. Goonies kind of lighting, you know, like it was dark, but you could see everything.
00:59:27
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Right. Ooh, that's you can't you can't do that with digital. It's or at least nobody's figured out how to. Yeah, no, it's because it's a completely it's its own completely different thing.
00:59:38
Speaker
I hope somebody does because like digital is so convenient. It is compared to film. i I was watching yeah a snippet of an interview on TikTok the other day with David k Cronenberg, and he's just like, I have no nostalgia for shooting on film. Like, fucking give me digital all day long. He goes, I don't want to shoot on film. i don't want to edit on film. He goes, fuck it. i And most people aren't even going to fucking notice. Most people aren't going to notice. And the ones that do are going to forgive you if it's good enough anyway. Because you're David fucking Cronenberg. Yes, yes.
01:00:08
Speaker
When it comes right down to it. Like, that's 100% what it is. um But no, yeah, I mean, and that's kind of the miracle of this movie is for a for a early 2000s kaiju film, it looks really good.
01:00:26
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Yeah, it looks really solid. And the storytelling is competent and the acting is apparently the girl that plays the neighbor, May or Mai, is like a big deal over into like to the extent that she's only known by like one name.
01:00:42
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Caho, I believe that her name is. But yeah, she's like is apparently a very big deal. And that was sort of the beginning of her career? Or was that she was already a big deal? ah This is her first film.
01:00:54
Speaker
Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, this is her very first film. ah But she's won... um the Hochi film award. She's gotten a ton of other awards too. Like she's just very, apparently like very well known, just a big star over in Japan. Big deal.
01:01:10
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Before this, she was on TV. She did TV shows, ah TV movies, things like that before she got this. But then i she just, she's won the Hochi film award, the Nikon sports film award, uh, uh, the newcomer of the year award in 2008 for Japan Academy film prize.
Gamera's Place in Cinema and Its Audience
01:01:28
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Um, She also won the 31st and 39th Japan Academy Film Prize. Or no, she I'm sorry. She was nominated and for the 39th for Best Supporting Actress.
01:01:39
Speaker
um And also won Best Supporting Actress at the Tokyo Drama Desk or Tokyo Drama Awards in 2023. So like, yeah, this this is kind of like an early film role of someone who would go on to become a very big deal over in Japan.
01:01:56
Speaker
Which is kind of cool. Yeah. That's very rad. Yeah. So, um so yeah, there you go. Gamera, the brave, not just for kids anymore. I don't know. um It's, I don't know.
01:02:10
Speaker
As exhibited in this movie. What did I fucking say, Tucker? You said for the children. Whatever. It doesn't matter. No, it's a big difference.
01:02:21
Speaker
It is. I explained it before, Stephen. It is a big difference. Gamera and children, they are friends. Wu-Tang and children are not friends.
01:02:33
Speaker
So you're saying Gamera is not for children? Yes, but he is also friend to children. I don't understand why can't be both. Wu-Tang's relationship with children is mutually exclusive to being for the children.
01:02:49
Speaker
they don't forget Like I said, they don't kick it. They don't hang out smoke blunts with children. Okay? I mean, I hope they don't do the second one. Gamera is friend to children. Friend.
01:03:01
Speaker
they are They have a relationship. They are friends. Wu-Tang does not have a relationship with the kids, but they are for the children. But Gamera is also Gamera is not only friend to children, but is for the children as well.
01:03:17
Speaker
Because if you're a friend of children, you wouldn't be against them. You would be for them. You're right. You're right. But that's besides the point, because. No, that's the entire point I'm making, Tucker. It's very exclusive.
01:03:30
Speaker
Wu-Tang is very exclusively for the children. And Gamera is very exclusively friend to children. I feel like it's their it's their catchphrase. Yes. Look, you're not wrong.
01:03:42
Speaker
You're not wrong that they're not they're both for the children, but they have very specific phrases within the context of their brand. And Gamera is friend to children, and Wu-Tang is for the children.
01:03:57
Speaker
You see what i mean? That's all I'm saying. But being a friend to the children... I don't know. it's it For me, it's just the way the way you look so disappointed every time I bring it up again. It's just the best feeling in the world. Honestly.
01:04:13
Speaker
I'm so glad we're friends, Steven. I'm so glad we're friends. If we weren't friends, we would have killed each other by now. um ah By now? Yeah, probably. Yeah.
01:04:24
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Straight up murder.
01:04:27
Speaker
Homicide colon life on the street. Oh, that show's so good. And it makes Brooklyn Nine-Nine so much better. Not that Brooklyn Nine-Nine needs any help. No.
01:04:37
Speaker
But if you've seen Homicide and then you see Brooklyn Nine-Nine, it's just that much fucking better. Absolutely. I feel like it's kind of the anti-commish for the the S.H.I.E.L.D., whereas like watching the commish makes S.H.I.E.L.D. worse, because you're like o no, no commish, don't do that. Yeah.
01:04:56
Speaker
This is just the opposite where you're just like, oh, I can't believe it. It's that guy. He's doing the thing. Oh, my word. He's so funny. Like, yeah, 100%. No, absolutely with you on that. Dude, yes. If anyone's interested in watching the commission, it's currently streaming on Shout Factory's YouTube channel.
01:05:12
Speaker
Oh, OK.
01:05:15
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but Good to know. It is a fun fact. So um this movie is released on April 29th, 2006 in Japan. um it is not a very big hit um Not even in Japan. Well, I guess I didn't get a sequel. so Right. So it makes... I don't have an idea for the budget because this movie is just not on.
01:05:42
Speaker
um In 2006, if I had to guess, and um if if you if you think I'm wrong, please chime in. I would guess that this movie in 2006 would cost probably around $4.
01:05:58
Speaker
yet Well, but 50, I'm going to say $50 million. dollars Okay. but Which is entirely possible. Again, I don't have... That seems fair, right?
01:06:10
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Yeah. Seems like a pretty good approximate. It's definitely not $100 million. No. It's definitely not like $20 or $30 million. So it's probably... I'd say this budget is probably right around $15 million.
01:06:21
Speaker
It makes... All that having been said, it makes $2.6 million. oh oh in japan so it is not what you'd call a multiplier by any respect and it makes like a couple thousand in the u is it even released in the u.s no it that does not get a theatrical u.s release fuck a duck i mean i feel like you could have done a limited release the people who wanted to see it would have seen it you would have made the money i agree
01:06:53
Speaker
this this feels like one more one of those like we'll just release it on home video and the people that want it will find it kind of i mean yeah that's fair too but then again you're only getting their money once right if you put it out in limited releases you get that money in the limited release then you get that same money and more on the physical man there's be a ah studio executive if they'd have to listen to you first um oh man
01:07:21
Speaker
um in In America that weekend, that's the weekend of April 28th, 2006. America? That's where I live, Stephen. Me too. That's where I was randomly born.
01:07:32
Speaker
The number one movie ah that weekend, April 28th, 2006. The number one movie is a Robin Williams movie. It's the second to last movie that Barry Sonnenfeld ever directs.
01:07:46
Speaker
A little movie called RV. RV. oh yeah Yeah. I don't know if I... Did I see that? I have seen pieces of it and I did not like what I saw. That's too bad.
01:08:01
Speaker
Uh, also opening this weekend at number two is United 93. One of the kind of, this was the era of the weird nine 11 movies that all felt. Yeah. were and We're doing nine 11 movies now.
01:08:15
Speaker
Yeah. United 93 world trade center. There's at least one other one too. And I'm just like, this feels really soon guys. I don't know. Too soon. Remember me. That was the one that was a secret nine 11 movie. Cause it ends. Yeah.
01:08:30
Speaker
I think he did World Trade Center, didn't he? Yeah. I feel like World Trade Center was his. I could be very wrong. Also Nicolas Cage? Hang on. I'll find out. Which one had Nicolas Cage in it?
01:08:42
Speaker
What a weird genre. Nicolas Cage, 2005 and 2010, it was open season on 9-11 movies. And honestly, I think they should have started it it was open season on nine eleven movies and honestly i think they should have started it around two thousand and ten instead At least, I mean, that's because 2006, you're five years after the fact. Perspective, yeah. Exactly. A lot of things have to happen for you to really ah appreciate and understand write what happened on September 11th.
01:09:14
Speaker
Right. We're still figuring it out, you know? things happen because of it. Right. like We're living in the thing, the shit we're going through now is a direct result of the fallout of 9-11. It's all fucking connected, that shit.
01:09:28
Speaker
It was a big deal, that 9-11. I tell you what. I do also tell you what. And this movie is coming out again, 2006. World Trade Center also 2006. And this is not even five years after. This is April 2006. Oh, geez.
01:09:44
Speaker
Yeah. like we're We're ways off. um And third place, the Walt Disney film Stick It. the fuck is that it's a i feel like it's a gymnastic slash cheerleading movie a live action movie yes a live action film uh released 2006 how is that number two yeah i'm just aren that's number three united 93 was two yeah but how long has stick it been in theaters steven it's new this week okay fair that's why nobody knows what it is anyway go ahead
01:10:21
Speaker
Our first repeat is ah Silent Hill, which is in down from number one the week before. It's in its second week of release, in at number four, up until I would say recent years, probably the best comic or the best video game adaptation.
01:10:37
Speaker
Silent Hill, um i like this like this movie, is pretty mediocre, but just enough above average to be interesting. Okay.
01:10:48
Speaker
I like that movie. I like that first Silent Hill movie. I saw that at the theater and it was it was kind of creepy. Kind of creepy. Very unique setting. Speaking of kind of creepy, um is in fifth place, Scary Movie 4.
01:11:03
Speaker
Oh man, who gives a fuck? Then rounding out the top 10, we have The Sentinel at number six, Ice Age Colon, The Meltdown at seven. okay Opening at number eight, Aquila and The Bee in this economy. Hey, that was a big deal, though. Like, that movie did well on video. Like, that became appreciated.
01:11:22
Speaker
remember when that was out in theaters. That was like the little indie that could. Yeah. thats yeah um In ninth place, The Wild, I think that's the one where ah the Disney um computer animated one where a bunch of animals escape from Central Park Zoo. like I thought it was the one about about that guy, the true story about the guy, and he lived off the land and then he ate the wrong thing and died.
01:11:47
Speaker
No, you're thinking of Into the Wild. Ah! That movie was kind of fucked up. Yeah. It was, mean, like, ah, such a weird movie because, like, I really enjoyed everything.
Authenticity in Movie Adaptations
01:12:00
Speaker
Like, it was a great journey, but the ending was just so hopeless and depressing. But it's real. Like, you can't, you can't change that story. You can't change how that story ends. Like, there's a lot of things you can change and dramatize in an adaptation of a true story, but you can't change the facts.
01:12:19
Speaker
And that motherfucker just died because he accidentally ate the wrong thing. Yep. Which is why you maybe don't do that. Yeah, maybe not.
01:12:31
Speaker
Maybe. That's sad. That's sad. To quote one of Melissa Villasenor's last characters on Saturday Night Live, that's sad.
01:12:44
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ah In 10th place, Benchwarmers.
01:12:49
Speaker
Hey, that was the with the David Spade and the and it was the kids. And maybe maybe John Heater was there. John Heater was there. i feel like Rob Schneider was there, too. Rob Schneider was probably there, too.
01:13:02
Speaker
um And then some below the line highlights I just want to throw out at 11. Spike Lee's Inside Man. Fucking love that movie. I didn't see that one. Denzel's in that. Denzel and Clive Owen and Jodie Foster in that one too. You're saying Jodie Foster's in that movie?
01:13:21
Speaker
She is. It's Jodie Foster. um So look, i that movie slipped through my fingers. Because it was I would so wanted to watch it, and then i had forgotten about it until right now when you mentioned
Movie Recommendations and Discussions
01:13:36
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it.
01:13:36
Speaker
And I'm like, I know exactly what movie you're talking about, and somehow it slipped through my fingers at the time, I haven't thought of it since. You should absolutely watch it. It rules. I'll put it on list. That movie is really good.
01:13:48
Speaker
I have a list. i did I did a bunch of Spike Lee during lockdown. And basically every one that was available that I could stream, I did. and that was one of them. And holy shit, that movie rules.
01:14:00
Speaker
I also brought it from Boozled. Inside Oh, yeah. Yo, were you the other person that had the but the original Bamboozled DVD before the Criterion Blu-ray came out? oh No. I was the only one?
01:14:13
Speaker
You might have been. Yeah. And yo, like I bought that when it came out and then it got lost in the great flood. And then when I was in Tucson, there's a store called Bookman's and it's a big like used records, CDs, books, comic books, to like everything. They have all of the physical media and musical instruments. Half of it's new, half of it's used.
01:14:41
Speaker
And I found a DVD copy of Bamboozled there. And I was so happy to get it back. And I showed it to Jimmy. And he was like, well, that's kind of a weird, fucked up, but also really powerful movie. And i was like, yeah, it is. And then a couple couple years later, that Criterion came out.
01:14:59
Speaker
And I gifted my special DVD to Jimmy. So now Jimmy is the guy that owns the one bamboozled DVD. Wow. gonna say I have the Criterion one, and it took me most of the movie to get used to how intentionally shitty the real life stuff was.
01:15:18
Speaker
um like it took And David Wayans' accent. Oh my god, yes. It's like, once you figure it out, it works. But it takes... That movie takes a long time. It takes a minute to figure that movie out.
01:15:31
Speaker
Once you figure that... That's why it's better on repeat viewings. Bamboozled, every time you watched, it's better. Because once you figure it out, you're like, okay, I get it now. I can... Also, that was a very revolutionary movie just in the way that it was filmed.
01:15:45
Speaker
Because this was one of the first major motion pictures. Well, I mean, it was an indie movie, but it was it was Spike Lee. But it was shot on handy camera. Like this guy. Like this little Hi8 handy cam I have right there.
01:15:58
Speaker
Like a standard digital video camera. At the time, like commercial. Not even like... industrial, not even fancy for the biz. And Spike Lee, the documentaries that were on the original DVD that I'm sure on the Blu-ray, I don't remember, he's talking about, it's amazing because I can set up like eight Sony handycams, have them shoot the same thing And have eight different angles of one scene.
01:16:25
Speaker
I don't have to have like mis mismatched lips from the behind angle, which is a big problem with shooting just like one camera from one angle for each one.
01:16:37
Speaker
Everything syncs together. He's got so much to work with. Every take is in so many different angles. To hear him talk about it, like I'm surprised he didn't just keep making movies specifically with those cameras.
01:16:51
Speaker
They just look like shit. That's the problem. They do. They do. But that also kind of gives a movie like Bamboozled that is has some kind of over-the-top silly aspects.
01:17:02
Speaker
it does It grounds it so that you can take it seriously, I think. Fair. I mean, it's definitely a lot more, with the exception of Damon Wayans' voice, it's a lot more verite than most of what you see Spike Lee do.
01:17:17
Speaker
I love what he does, though. I love Damon Wayans in that movie. he's perfect for that movie. It's definitely a choice. It's definitely a choice, but I think it's the right choice. Big damn choice. Big, big, big, big damn choice. Like, whoa, that's bigger of a choice than Blank Man, and Blank Man was a motherfucking choice. see our previous episode on Blank Man.
01:17:39
Speaker
i used to love that movie when I was a kid. It does not hold up. No.
01:17:44
Speaker
We used to love the shit out of it, though. I tell you what. If I had it taped off TV, I'd watch it like twice a week.
01:17:52
Speaker
That does not surprise me even a little bit, even a little bit, sir. That is no surprise. um Some other ones I wanted to call out here. um Lucky number Slevin at number 16. Thank you for smoking at 14. You like that one.
01:18:06
Speaker
<unk>h That's the, that's Jason Reitman coming out hot, dude. I like that guy. i I like what he has the potential to do. He does great things and he does mediocre things, which I don't blame him for.
01:18:21
Speaker
You do what you want to do and it comes out the way it comes out. It's not going to please everybody. But there's some Jason Reitman shit that I'm way into. I'm way into Thank You For Not Smoking.
01:18:32
Speaker
I'm way into Saturday Night. Way into fucking Saturday Night. That's what turning to haven't That is a return to form because though I did appreciate the Ghostbusters legacy sequels, I didn't think they were particularly well-written or well-directed, of which he directed after the first one.
01:18:51
Speaker
yeah Yes. Again, I appreciated them, but... There's some issues there. And so I was like, oh, did Jason Reitman like forget how to do the shit he used to be so rad at?
01:19:03
Speaker
He didn't forget. and looked that way for a while. Watch Saturday Night. He did not forget that movie. That's his. For thank you for smoking fans.
01:19:15
Speaker
That's his comeback. That's his comeback. Fair enough. Oh, man. Met and exceeded all expectations. That film. You seen it yet, Steven? You seen Saturday Night yet? No, i just I just said that.
01:19:27
Speaker
Boy, it's on Netflix. Okay, so it's a lot of other shit. i got you I'll send you the Blu-ray if it'll make you feel more obligated. Don't that. I'll send it you in the mail. Because you you know as well as I do, you don't know when you're getting that shit back.
01:19:40
Speaker
I'll fucking do it. I know you will, but you shouldn't. I will pay for the postage, Steven. I'm telling you, because I know that you know that you have no idea when you're going to get that motherfucker back because it's going to me.
01:19:55
Speaker
It's okay. It's on Netflix. I can watch it anytime. Okay. Until they take it off on Netflix and then you're like, where's my damn physical media? I just upload the Blu-ray so that I can force other people to watch it, to feel obligated to watch it.
01:20:06
Speaker
yes Speaking of obligations, there is tomatometer score on Gamera
Gamera the Brave: Ratings and Final Thoughts
01:20:14
Speaker
Brave. Oh, balls? Really? No, it's a 69% popcorn meter, but there are only three reviews for Gamera the Brave on Rotten Tomatoes. And I will tell you, though, they are all positive.
01:20:24
Speaker
Nice. So there's that. ah There's also no meta score for this movie at all. In fact, there are no meta scores for any of the Gamera movies.
01:20:35
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The only thing Gamera that has a meta score, actually, it doesn't even have that, is the PlayStation game Gamera 2000, which yeah has a meta score of TBD because there aren't enough reviews in yet.
01:20:48
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But it's the only they haven't determined it yet. As soon they get a couple more reviews, we're just waiting. Or any. They'll come in. They'll come in. Yeah. Just give it time. I'll tell you, Tucker, where there is A star rating.
01:21:01
Speaker
Is it on Letterboxd? It's on Letterboxd. And Tucker, what do you feel like it might be? This is a hard one, Stephen. This is a hard one because this is a this is a wholesome movie.
01:21:11
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It is. It's kind of like we said. It's sort of in that that sort of Amblin vibe. And people tend to be pretty precious about that kind of shit.
01:21:21
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Like in in a positive way. But.
01:21:27
Speaker
There's some mischievous motherfuckers on Letterboxd. Go with your heart. What does your heart tell you? This is in between... 3.4 and 3.8. Tucker.
01:21:38
Speaker
3.4. Hey! Really? That seems low. o tucker three point four hey re god that see hello that's where they That's where they put it.
01:21:54
Speaker
um and The memes. You can do it for the memes. I was going to say... Fucking bomb a score for the memes. Fantastic. There are three-star reviews than anything. And then three three and a half.
01:22:06
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And then four-star. So it kind of lives in that range. Like three to three and a half. at least like That's kind of the range it lives in. So not that far off. i based on Based on those scores.
01:22:20
Speaker
Like... three and a half leaning toward three so and i'm glad i got it so and uh what uh what what would you give it out of five stars tucker i'm gonna give this a 2.5 because it is for me it's it's perfectly average it's perfectly fine i have no complaints but i'm also not like overly praising it like it's sure it's It's right there down the middle. This is ah right down the perfect a perfectly fine way to spend an hour and 36 minutes.
01:22:52
Speaker
Absolutely. Are there better ways? Sure. But there are also worse ways. There are a lot worse. Or worse ways. See our two previous episodes. And those both of those movies were longer than 96 minutes, too. Oh, they sucked. Some of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life.
01:23:10
Speaker
Like, I feel like... Both rated higher than this film. Right. Yeah. Weirdly. And this has, I think, been our favorite of the month, for sure. I guess we're the weird ones, Stephen. I guess we're the weird ones. There were people on my letterbox that I follow who rated this, like, four and a half.
01:23:28
Speaker
like four and a half, five stars. Like there are people who love this movie. And again, i don't blame them. There's good stuff going on here. um So, you know, I mean, for us, it's it's ah it's three for me.
01:23:41
Speaker
um so i'm putting it i'm putting it right there like so we're we're kind averaging out to 2.75 um but no this this is ah a fun movie i put it you know again a little north of of fine i would say good fun even like yeah i'm i'm enjoying the time and cute exactly charming as hell like all things you could say about this movie and be perfectly accurate So, ah yeah, i and I will say this. There's more five star than half star ratings on Letterboxd, too.
01:24:11
Speaker
So a lot more. So that's fair. I'm glad people like this movie because it deserves it, I think. Yeah, it's it's a charming little film. And again, it's on Amazon Prime. So if you haven't watched it and are even remotely interested, check it out. It's it's a again, it's a fun way to spend 96 minutes.
01:24:29
Speaker
Yeah, it's not bad. Not at all bad. Not at all. Not even a little bit bad. We're, yeah, you, you, again, you could do far worse. There are far worse ways to spend an afternoon. ah You know, get, get a, you know, Saturday, Sunday afternoon, you know, talk up a little bit and just have a good time. Absolutely.
01:24:49
Speaker
Yeah, dude. Dude. Yeah, dude. Yeah. right. So that is our episode on the 2006 Gamera, the brave.
Engagement and Social Media Presence
01:25:00
Speaker
um We have been the disenfranchised podcast. You can find us um on social media at disenfranch pod for us. Social media these days is pretty much just blue sky, letterboxd and YouTube.
01:25:11
Speaker
ah so if you're looking for us, look for us there. And we pretty much don't update anything else. um While you're out on the internet, swing by our Patreon, patreon.com slash disenfranchpod. You can join at the free level where you can get each episode as it comes out, main feed episodes. But you can actually go into the comments and talk with Tucker and myself.
01:25:32
Speaker
Most of the time, one of us will reply, usually Tucker, but sometimes me. um And then ah you can also, if you want to you know spring for a higher amount or try check out the free trial, ah you can give ah the the paid level, a paid tier a try.
01:25:46
Speaker
um We've got hours of bonus content behind there. And apparently, according to Sam last week, coming soon, the old episodes of Rule of Thirds, the podcast that Sam and our friend Caleb and I did together. So be on the lookout for that coming soon.
01:26:03
Speaker
When? i have no idea. But soon. um I am ah i'm your host, Stephen Foxworthy. You can find me on Blue Sky and Letterboxd at Chewy Walrus. The absent Brett Wright, ah you can find on Letterboxd at Sus underscore Warlock.
01:26:22
Speaker
And I think I vamped long enough for Tucker to give his socials. Tucker? I could not stop peeing, Stephen. It's like, how is there so much liquid inside of this tiny, tiny kidney?
01:26:35
Speaker
Tucker, i'm I'm diabetic. I understand all too well. man. can't believe I peed that much. You started doing breaths and I was like, I better wrap this up. I still got to wash my hands.
01:26:49
Speaker
Gross. So I'm still on Instagram and I'll always be on YouTube at Ice909. That's I-C-E-N-I-N-E, the number zero and the number nine.
01:27:04
Speaker
ah also tuck mugs is still a thing like i said it's kind of on pause for now we got some figuring stuff out to do it is still alive actually one of the doofuses i work with um ah showed some interest in tuck mugs the other day fucking doofus um because hey did i tell you this steven speaking of talking about You know, ah the reason Tuck Mugs exists, Tuck underscore mugs on Instagram for now, is that I am a collector of of all sorts of glassware for drinking.
01:27:44
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Anything you can drink out of. You know what I love? I love shot glasses. I also love coffee mugs. I also love soup mugs. I love pint glasses. I love unique glasses. mike Like my little his and hers Irish cream. Or like mine and yours is what it says. Mine and yours.
01:28:01
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They're just little almost like sake glasses. But it's from Irish cream. but I just love. Yes. I just love stuff like that. And my boss at the barbecue place I was washing dishes at since February that I recently quit because i have to do campground shit.
01:28:22
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Oh, that's for tis the season. You're right. Yes. And um my last day, i was like, hey, man, because they have coffee cups.
Personal Anecdotes and Lighthearted Moments
01:28:32
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You know, when you go to like a local diner and the coffee cups have ads for like local businesses on them. You know what i'm talking about. You've heard about this. You've seen this.
01:28:39
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I've seen this. OK, so the barbecue place I worked at before it was that barbecue place. For 25 years, it was a diner.
01:28:52
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Okay. And the coffee cups that we use at the barbecue place are the diner's old advertisement cups from like 2013. That's amazing. And that's always fascinated me. And he, at one point in my tenure there as dishwasher, he had mentioned that he had a bunch of boxes of those downstairs in the basement.
01:29:12
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And so my last day I was like, Hey, can I get a couple of those mugs? He's like, I've got actually two different kinds of those mugs and I'll give you any pint glass that you want also.
01:29:24
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Cause I explained to him because we're, it's a bar also. So we've got pint glasses, advertising all sorts of different breweries, local breweries and stuff. And so I got one of the cups that they currently use there. And then I got an older cup that's smaller. It would be one of only two coffee cups that I have at that size. The other one is the one with the tulips that I posted on tuck mugs, tuck underscore mugs on Instagram. If you want to see that post, it's a very small cup with tulips on a hand painted tulips.
01:29:57
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Very exciting. Very, very exciting. Good. We'll find.
01:30:02
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Um, but also I got a 603 brewing pint glass because New Hampshire and I'm moving. So I want like some New Hampshire shits and like this man, I got to send you a picture and you might post it on the socials, but not on tuck bugs for some reason.
01:30:21
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i got it he gave me a Scheiderbach glass, which is it's a Texas beer. Yeah, I'm i'm familiar. And the design is very intricate on it to the point to where I'm, even at normal temperatures, I'm not going to put it in the dishwasher. I'm going hand wash it.
01:30:38
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Probably. Because the pattern is so intricate on it. I had Kronbacher Pilsner glass at one point that actually had the name etched into the side, like elevated off the glass.
01:30:50
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um Yes. That one was a that was so casualty of the cats, I believe. Oh, that sucks. The Shinerbach glass that I have, on the but there's a star on the bottom of the glass. So like when you're drinking it, you can see a star. Like for Texas, I have a Bud Light glass, which has very...
01:31:12
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Very fun story behind the reason I have it. But it's like it says 1982 on the bottom of the glass. Like while you're drinking, it says 1982. That's a fun story. We'll save that for ah what are we watching? Because that's going to come back at some point.
01:31:27
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I'm going to figure it out, you guys. Patreon.com slash Dish and French Pod. it's It's going to pop off at some point. Anyway, yeah. Tuck Mugs, Tuck underscore Mugs. It's still there.
01:31:39
Speaker
We're trying to move it. We'll let you know what's going on. When figure out. And that's socials. That's my socials. That's the whole deal. That's the whole shlemiel and shlemaple. Hassan Pfeffer Incorporated. to incorporate it We're going to do it.
01:31:56
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Give us any chance. You'll take it. Give us any, read us any rule. We'll break it We're going to make our dreams come true. Doing it our way.
01:32:07
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all right. That brings me so much joy, Steven, but you still need to learn 227. yeah Maybe one day. We'll see. At any rate, this has been our episode Gummer gumer the Brave from 2006. Join us next week for the final installment of our third consecutive third and for the time being final consecutive theme month. ah Big in Japan 2 colon even bigger.
01:32:31
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um we're We're calling it audible and we're switching it up from what it was. So if you're a patron, you don't know. I'm so glad. just Just say thank you, Tucker. That's all you have to say. Thank you. I'm so glad it's not. the Skinless giants.
01:32:48
Speaker
Who wants that? We're not doing that. about that? Nobody wants that. I guarantee you someone does. but And then they did the live action version and it's even creepier. That would be the one year and we'd have been watching. And not in a good way.
01:33:03
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Like in a way to where it's like...
01:33:07
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Anyway, I'm glad we're not watching that. Anyway, we're going back to Takashi Miike next week. We did a Takashi Miike. We did a Takashi Miike film the first time we did this, and now we're doing another one this time. What was the first? What was the one we already did?
01:33:22
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You already did it. Ace Attorney. Yeah, I didn't do that. I tried to play that game. I tried to play that game, and like I got maybe about a half hour into it, and I was like, this is...
01:33:35
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too much for me that's that's that's a that's a you may not be surprised to know that's a brett favorite so that's fine and like that tracks for him that's great i'm glad he and joe that seems like it's right up his alley and i love that for him but that's why i said it may not surprise you to know there are elements of that game that i appreciate and i want to like but it's just so annoyingly anime Which we established earlier in this episode you do not care for.
01:34:07
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i do not inherently like. But then again, like I say, my fifth favorite movie of all time is an anime movie. you You are a land of contradictions. you like A boy can appreciate that shit.
01:34:23
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A boy can appreciate it, but it's not my thing. And many, many others do. ah boys do So until next time, i am your host, Stephen Foxworthy from my co-host Tucker and the absent Brett, right?
01:34:36
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Until next time. Remember. We're doing this for Toto, bitch, man. I love that little tiny turtle. That's the cutest little turtle. I tell you what he is. He is. He is a friend. Makes me want a turtle.
01:34:50
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Can you believe cuffing link are still alive? I can. From Rocky, dude. Right, no. Turtles be living. Turtles be living. Which is probably why the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle franchise can never really die.
01:35:03
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Well, no, because like they're like, how long do you think the teenager is? Because like, if you think about how humans and dog years work, like turtle years, like humans and turtle years would work like that. So like, if you're a turtle and you're a teenager, that's in between the ages of like 50 and 75. Right.
01:35:20
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and seventy five or maybe even longer than that.