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232 - Spy (2015) w/ DeVaughn Taylor
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“I drove a car off a freeway while I was on fire. Not the car. I was on fire!”
This week, with a new Mission: Impossible film on its way and our good buddy DeVaughn Taylor halfway through his quest to watch every Jason Statham movie in existence, we couldn't think of a better reason to watch this mid-aughts comedy! We chat about the stacked cast, our favorite gags and DeVaughn gives his favorite Statham rankings so far! Don't miss this one!
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Transcript
Introduction to Disenfranchised Podcast
00:00:22
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A franchise right alone will make us rich beyond our wildest dreams. You got to stop the sale of a nuclear bomb? Are you going to send in someone who looks like Santa Claus's fucking wife? Are you going to send in the disenfranchised podcast?
00:00:34
Speaker
That podcast all about those franchises of one, those films that fancy themselves full-fledged franchises before falling flat on their face after the first film. I'm your host, Stephen Foxworthy here looking like someone's homophobic aunt and joining me as always, the only man who could rock the facial hair as good as Jason Statham. It's Tucker. Good morning, Tucker.
00:00:54
Speaker
Hello, Steven. How are doing today? I'm doing well. How are you? I'm great. I have coffee and that what what could be better? um also coffeeing. Kind of a necessity for these odd morning records, which this is the second one we've had in a week, which is consecutive.
00:01:12
Speaker
Right. Wild. Wild for us. I haven't been fucked up on a disenfranchised recording in like three weeks. I know. And it shows, frankly. I think it's kind of a compliment, but also maybe a little bit of a dig.
00:01:26
Speaker
I mean, i I would say why not both?
Guest Devon Taylor's Unique Traits and Podcasts
00:01:29
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ah But Tucker, we're not alone ah because we have one of the greats. I have it on good authority ah that this man is immune to 179 different kinds of poison.
00:01:41
Speaker
I'll leave it to him to tell you how. But from Spectre Cinema Club, the Tainted Love podcast, and the Pod and the Pendulum, please welcome back Mr. Devon Taylor. Devon, great to see you again.
00:01:52
Speaker
Hello, hello. um it You know, woke myself up. I had to use some defibrillators on myself ah to get here. And that 180th thing that I am not immune to is tequila, unfortunately. Yikes! Nothing kills him.
00:02:06
Speaker
Nothing. Except for tequila will tequila. So i think that would work on Ford, actually. Probably. You know, I love that some of the things that he talks about are things that he absolutely did as his character in Crank.
00:02:22
Speaker
No, I was i was like going through. I was like, i was like but when he started that little rant, I was like, is he just talking about the movie Crank? Is Dwight Yoakam going to show up at some point? What's going on?
00:02:33
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I would not have put it past feed to write that shit into this. Feig is like a big fan of Statham. And so he wrote this character specifically for Statham
Jason Statham's Comedic Role in 'Spy'
00:02:44
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to play. i can tell.
00:02:45
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Yeah. And it, it, it, this is particularly after hearing about all the drama on the sets of the fast and furious movies with the rock and Vin Diesel. It's good to see Statham able to like,
00:02:58
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playfully dig at the persona that he's basically cultivated over the past decade. Like it's, it's a really good thing to see, honestly. Yes, I am ah not not quite yet, but I'm on becoming a ah Statham expert. That is my ah side quest of this year. I remember seeing the Working Man trailer and I was so inspired that I said, I'm going to watch all of his movies this year. ah Because Statham, he's always been like my action guy. like you know ah he's He's not quite...
00:03:30
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ah you know, in ah the the S tier, you know, as far as like, you know, Schwarzenegger, Stallone, ah people like that. um ah You know, honestly, I'd put him above Willis. I know Willis gets a lot of ah gets a lot of clout for the Die Hard movies.
00:03:45
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I'd even put Statham above Willis, but he's not quite to the heavy hitters, but he's he's pretty high up, though. Like he's ah he's like above Seagal and Van Damme who I kind of compare him to style wise if I had to like put him in a certain grouping of action guys um so so far of his 52 credits I am through 26 I'm halfway through officially this is this is my halfway point or this was 27 actually so okay um and so this is me going past the halfway mark on my year of the state
00:04:23
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Right on.
Devon Taylor's Critique of 'Spy'
00:04:24
Speaker
Getting you over the hump. And what movie are we talking about today, Devon? We haven't talked about it yet. We are um ah because it's just a summer of action, mission impossible, but it's also the 10th anniversary of One Spy 2015, directed by Kevin Feige, or not Kevin Feige, Paul Feige, the other one, Paul Feige, not Feige, Feige. um and they're secretly related they just changed one letter so paul's just like gonna just say my last name fancy so that way we can uh distinguish each other just fight estevez instead of sheen you guys i'm saying feige feige's things feels like an an ellis island thing like they were brothers and we're like well we can't have two of you here so you're feige and you're feige get out of here
00:05:10
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and and And off the top, fuck this movie and the fact that, a good movie, but fuck this movie. um One of my biggest pet peeves in film ah is ah one word movie titles.
00:05:22
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um but You know how hard it is to fucking Google specific things about this movie? Spy, 2015, Jason Statham, Melissa McCarthy, movie. Like you have to put all the things to finally get to fucking the shit.
00:05:34
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The Milky Way galaxy. yeah like Come on. and Like, God damn it. Like, get specific with your movie titles. I don't get It's like the studios think it's easier, but you're making it harder on yourself. You're making the SEO worse by making it a simpler title. And I love that you're saying this while you're sitting in front of posters for Long Legs and The Lighthouse.
00:05:53
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And Climax is the other one, too. There you go. Just... Perfect. Irony blood dripping right now. I love it so much. ah Yes. We were talking about 2015 spy written and directed by Paul Feig starring Melissa McCarthy, Jason Statham, Rose Byrne, Jude law, Miranda heart, Bobby Cannaval, Alison Janney, Peter Serafinovich, Marina, Baccarin, Bjorn Gustafson, Richard break 50 cent, William Lee, Zach woods, Sam Richardson, Ben Falcone,
00:06:26
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And even a little director cameo from Paul Feig himself as an uncredited drunken guest.
Paul Feig's Style and Cameo in 'Spy'
00:06:31
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He's the guy who hits the wall and falls down, right? Yes. I thought that was him. He's got that. hey He's got really great hair. I let like gray looks good on that dude. Like I want gray hair like him.
00:06:41
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Totally. So good. first And like not in the way like like Clooney or Anderson Cooper has. It's something just completely his own. It almost sparkles. It's beautiful.
00:06:52
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Just just a gorgeous little quaff on that guy. Yes. And he's always in the usually whenever he's and interviewed, he's always in the suit, like the three piece suit. Oh, he does. He wears that like permanently. Like when you when you like when you look at ah behind the scenes of him directing, he is always in a full on ass suit.
00:07:09
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Him and Sam Raimi are two guys that direct in suits. Hey, I'm a fan of that. That's a that's a lost art form that was dropped in in ah in the NFL. Like ah football coaches used to coach in suits. None of them do anymore. And I miss that.
00:07:23
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It's all windbreakers. Yeah. ah Okay, windbreakers are cool. Sleeveless hoodies. But like now it's all now it's all like the boring three-quarter zips and stuff like that. like, what are y'all wearing? like Get fun out here. right.
00:07:36
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I think that Rami started doing it because of Hitchcock. He wanted to be like Hitchcock. I know Hitchcock always wore a suit. For Rami, I think there's also an element of like everyone's showing up, everyone's working hard. I'm like sitting in a chair and just yelling at people.
00:07:52
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I should probably like honor what they're doing in my appearance. so Plus, I would say, like yeah, but it it it kind of demands a little more... I don't want to say respect, but attention when everybody's, you know, in their work clothes and you're in a really nice suit. Yeah, i like that. It kind of shows that you're the guy.
00:08:10
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You're the guy. You're the guy. Yeah. Nolan, another famous ah director that wears suits. He's a suit guy. He's a tie guy, too. yeah Garrett met him at the Burbank Theater and he said he was in a t-shirt.
00:08:22
Speaker
What? Nolan in a t-shirt. He met Nolan in a t-shirt. like that' That's crazy. I feel like only family and close friends should see that. That's like a limited edition trading card. T-shirt Nolan? Nolan in a t-shirt.
00:08:38
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Tell me he got a picture of Nolan in the t-shirt. and He did. I can't remember. i don't think he did because I think he respected it too much. you know that just so And it was just a white V neck with pit stains, right? that If it had a grease stain on, if it was Nolan with a grease stain on his shirt, that would have been incredible because ah ah not to brag, obviously when you live in LA, you do meet lots of celebrities. So like, yeah I'm not a picture taker, but if he had a grease stain, I would have 100% taken a picture.
00:09:08
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That's for sure. And that's why we respect you, Devon. So many other reasons, but that has just become number one. Um, What is, but what is, Devon, what is your, so obviously we picked this because you're you're in your year of Statham right now.
00:09:23
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um What is your history? Let's let's pivot. we'll We'll get to plenty of Statham talk eventually, but I want to pivot to ah like Feig, McCarthy, ah because they're kind of the one-two punch of this movie initially in terms of the names, the big names. What is your history with, with Paul Feig movies? What of his stuff have you seen?
00:09:44
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If any, and what is your history with Melissa McCarthy? um You know, um I kind of like, I remember, I think I avoided this movie when first kind cause I, this was my first time watching.
00:09:55
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um This was a brand new one. um I
Melissa McCarthy's Career and 'Spy'
00:09:58
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think I avoided watching because I did have the, the fatigue of Melissa McCarthy after Bridesmaids.
00:10:06
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And even though she only did the heat and then and then this afterwards, but like but it was like once she was there, it felt like she was just like everywhere as far as just like, you know, appearing on things and TV shows and all, you know, what have you.
00:10:19
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She rose very fast, ah like ju was just everywhere insanely quickly. Like oddly, I thought. Yeah. so so I was kind of like, ah, you know, I was like, uh, she, it was kind of a lot. Uh, I was never, uh, didn't watch like any of her like a TV shows or anything.
00:10:37
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Um, and so, yeah, so I think I avoided this just because I was just like, okay, like bridesmaid was, was great guys, but like, uh, let's chill out. Um, and so kind of, uh, kind of the same way for, uh, Paul Feig, uh, as well.
00:10:49
Speaker
Um, ah but I, um, um i love a simple favor big fan of that film so after that i was like okay i like what this guy's putting down haven't watched the sequel yet um ah but uh but yeah like most of mccarthy just like i felt the burnout that i was just like fuck i was like this is she's just everywhere couldn't escape um ah but uh but i really uh enjoyed her in this though um i think uh i think she's really great uh she looks really great she's really cute in this i was like okay melissa mccarthy go on girl
00:11:20
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um and she's very fun and i think even though um i watched uh i watched the unrated version which is 10 more minutes of uh the actors and more minutes i know right like it's already i was like jesus in a ball fig movie you want more minutes well i did for that I mean, i always if it's an option, I always watch the unrated just for like you know the that yeah for the extra F buttons because I'm a child.
00:11:50
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um um but yeah but And you can totally feel it, too. like There's certain scenes where you're just like, oh, he's really just letting them riff right now, and he just like kept it in. So like that's mainly what that extra 10 minutes is. And you can feel it.
00:12:03
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and you can feel it you you kind of feel it i had to i had to fast forward like multiple scenes because i was just like oh they're gonna do this for a for a minute or two and they do a few times like really just like go for a sec so it's like you know uh which isn't you know obviously like i mean im i'm a comedy guy i like to laugh but um certain this style of comedy uh isn't always for me as far as like the just like like you know you know million jokes per minute type comedy like that's not you know for me especially when it's kind of the same one like I wish I would have taken count of how many you're like a blank that's like blank you're like a blank that looks like this and it's like okay how many metaphor or simile fucking jokes do we need to do
00:12:48
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that in this movie That's the Judd Apatow, you know how I know you're gay, like extended riffing all throughout. Like, ah was it the 40 year old virgin or was it? Sorry, I was trying not to laugh at that, but it is really funny, despite the homophobia. It's fair.
00:13:05
Speaker
I mean, that but that was like an extended riff between i yeah Seth Rogen and Paul Rudd. And never stop. they just keep That's the hilarity of it they just keep going, even after none neither of them has anything else.
00:13:18
Speaker
They're reaching. And the desperation of the reaching is what gives that scene humor, for me at least. But and I will agree with you, Devon. That's one of the biggest black spots for Paul Feig for me. I generally like his movies, but it's just his like, I don't know, let's just see where this goes. And then keeping it all in the movie without like isolating like the two or three standout bits.
00:13:42
Speaker
He just lets it kind of keep going and you're just you get lost in it. Like even in the. the regular cut of this movie. This was a first time watch for me as well. And I'm just like kind of languishing in some of those moments where you can tell he's just letting them go on just a little too long.
00:13:58
Speaker
And it, it, it's the thing that I think hurts most Feig movies. It's not the first Feig movie we've covered. We also covered the 2016 Ghostbusters movie on this podcast as well. So. Which I think is, i would say that and Bridesmaids from, of the Paul Feig movies that I've seen are the two that suffer from that the most.
00:14:19
Speaker
um Now this movie, it's there, but it wasn't so bad. And the same with the heat, which I also really enjoyed. i thought the heat was pretty fun. i like I like this more than the heat. I think this works a little bit better for me.
00:14:32
Speaker
I'd say the success rate of me chuckling throughout the film is more positive than nay, for sure. So I think it mainly works. It's just like there's certain scenes where you're just like, all right, I get it. All right. was...
00:14:48
Speaker
Again, like
'Spy' vs. 'Austin Powers' and Comedy Style
00:14:49
Speaker
it will be like those jokes to that. It's like not even like a like, oh, that really killed me. And now we're going to keep this going. It's like, OK, chuckled the first time. And now the second time I'm already over the joke. So it's like they kind of do that a lot.
00:15:02
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Yeah. for Yeah. A hundred percent. And again, that's that seems to be feaks like his thing for whatever reason. um Tucker, what's your history with spy and the Feig McCarthy pairing?
00:15:14
Speaker
Well, I saw this movie when it came out. I didn't... I did not see it at the movie theater, I think, because I didn't have a chance to. I think I probably would have went to it if I had the chance.
00:15:26
Speaker
um Because this is kind of... Everything in this is pretty much for me. So I've been a fan of Jason Statham since Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels.
00:15:41
Speaker
Of course. I've been a fan of Paul Feig since he was ah working with Judd Apatow on things like Freaks and Geeks and Undeclared. Right. Right. ah And even though I do have my issues with his specifically his editing style.
00:15:59
Speaker
Yes, I still do. We are like, we're still pals. I'm still into it. um steve If Paul Feig does a movie, I'm interested to see it.
00:16:11
Speaker
And I know that there is a chance that it's just going to be a lot of jokes that go on way too long. Right. But I'll tell you when it, when he hits, he hits.
00:16:23
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And like I said, stuff like the heat and stuff like this movie are, I think it's, it's the, the best stuff that he's done. It it doesn't suffer as much as his other work from being too long and jokes going on too long.
00:16:38
Speaker
Um, Also Jude Law. I've always been a fan of Jude Law too because he's he's one of those interesting paradoxes where he's a character actor trapped in a leading man's body.
00:16:49
Speaker
ah Absolutely. Him, Pitt, you know, those guys in in that category for sure. And I'm always interested to to watch guys like that, especially in comedies where they're playing the straight man.
00:17:05
Speaker
And in this, he i mean he has some funny lines, but he is essentially a straight man in this. For most of the movie, I'd agree. Yes. And um I think I really love his character in this.
00:17:17
Speaker
the the The biggest problem with this movie, because I think this is a good movie. I think it's a really good movie. Like I have a lot of fun watching it. But it's just so forgettable.
00:17:29
Speaker
As soon as it's over, and I saw it when it came out. That's why when I watched it this time, I'm like, oh, this is all brand new to me, even though I've seen it before. all brand i don't remember any of this like i remember all these people being in this movie don't remember any of it i had a great time i laughed but it's just as soon as it was over that's like the sometimes the issue with parody movies or not parody i mean i don't know if i call this a parody but like this is ah like you know whatever but when ah you have those type of movies and you are so familiar with the beats and that's part of you know the the conceit of the movie it's like you know what the you know how these spy movies go and so it's like So when it's on top of that, you know, it does kind of add to like the, oh yeah, no, I totally don't remember or, you know, like anything from this because it also blends into all the other spy movies you've seen, you know, successfully. So it's doing what it is going out to do, you know, but maybe I guess ah it's not, yeah this is like kind of, cause this, this is a good movie, um but it is kind of like a, um,
00:18:35
Speaker
A slightly ah commodified ah Austin Powers. Like Austin Powers, you remember, because it even though it does parody all the Bond and spy movies, it stands very firmly on its own versus this. I think it like gets ah just muddled into all the other spy movies you've seen.
00:18:53
Speaker
Right. Austin Powers is doing something very specific. Like they're referencing, they're referencing something very broad, but they're doing it in a very specific way. Whereas this is referencing something broadly as broadly as they possibly can, um which I think plays on that. I would actually agree with Tucker on every point, except for the Statham of it all.
00:19:14
Speaker
Like that's the stuff that I find myself remembering. Right. are his you know big, hyper-specific rants about all the shit that he's done and how like she's not an agent. like All of that that shit sticks with me. And I come away from this going, that was a fun movie. Statham's incredible is really my takeaway from this. I remember that was what was kind of talked about the most whenever this first came out, was people going, oh my God, I didn't know Jason Statham was so funny.
00:19:39
Speaker
Had they not seen his Guy Ritchie movies? He's hilarious in Lockstack. He's hilarious in Snatch. yeah Right. But people, but I remember like this was around that time ah because again, like, cause now as I've been going through his films and like tracking his filmography, like the early 2010s is like really when he ah settled into his B movie kind of action ah guy, but also like, you know, like,
00:20:05
Speaker
that's This is around the time he also is starts to become in on his own, you know, ah aware of himself, you know. So, like, this movie did kind of come at the perfect time when that this was, you know kind of where he where people kind of knew him from. And so him, like, being able to take the piss out of it, again, led me to believe he was in this movie more.
00:20:26
Speaker
Unfortunately, he is, like, really, again, in this two-hour, ten-minute movie that I watched, at least the unrated version, ah he's in at probably... 15 minutes of the movie and right which is great with um looks great with hair though and that mustache the hair and the mustache ooey oh my god i uh fantastic i watched uh uh this uh movie uh parker not too long ago and he uh dresses up ah he opens the movie doing a heist dressed as a preacher with white hair and glasses it is such a funny look but it also works i was like yeah like He looks so funny anytime he puts a wig on. But at the same time, I'm like, i could i mean I'm like, he's miss doing it because again, he just has that, ah that, that power to him.
00:21:11
Speaker
Now, if you've actually seen any, cause he got his start as a swimmer, I think. um Like if you go back and see like some of his swimming videos, he's got his natural hairs before he, like it was receding, but before he went fully bald, cause he's been bald since lock stock pretty much. Like he's yeah had hair pretty much his entire career. Oh yeah. Yeah. Early in his career, he was like trying to keep like a little bit more buzz.
00:21:35
Speaker
And then over time, like I love how he does the perfect length to stubble combo like his is classic. don't know how he's kept that consistency his entire life. ah It's actually pretty impressive.
00:21:49
Speaker
um But ah one one blade setting for everything, I guess. Yeah. listen That's an electric razor for the entire thing and wait a day. Yeah. And you get a Jason Statham.
00:22:00
Speaker
yeah Basically. Everything growing back at the same rate. It's great. I think we were talking about how, at least for me, this movie is very... very forgettable as much as I enjoyed it. I do think that that's where it would have benefited from a sequel because I think if this had gotten a sequel, number one, I would have seen it.
00:22:20
Speaker
Absolutely, 100%. And I think it would have made the first one stick out a little more. the the They should have did a sequel where it's ah ah Statham and Jude Law fighting for her ah her affections.
00:22:35
Speaker
like i would have That literally would have been such a fun sequel, like Spy vs. Spy over Melissa McCarthy. and what have been super far We could get more 50 Cent and her tall agent friend. Get some more of them. I love those two together. saw a whole spinoff of those two like at home.
00:22:54
Speaker
100% that was amazing I like that like Bridget Jones meets a spy movie like for the scene that would have worked so well you're right 100% I mean I guess that's that movie This Is War with Gerard Butler, Chris Pine and is that Katherine Heigl that they're fighting over no not Katherine Heigl they're fighting over somebody I never saw that but I won't believe it's Tom Hardy vs Chris Pine not Gerard Butler Yeah, the the trailer to that looked fantastic, and I was very excited to see it. but It's actually really good. and
00:23:25
Speaker
It is? will see From what I remember, it was pretty good. Everything that I heard was that it was just really, really bad, and it just kind of turned me off to it. But now that I have a positive reaction to it, I definitely want to see it, because that trailer looked fantastic. I want to see the i love Tom Hardy.
00:23:41
Speaker
I'd love to see him do more silly stuff, and it seemed like kind of a silly movie. So, into it. Yeah, for sure. um Yeah. the I mean, as far as like underrated comedians, too, in this, I always say Rose Byrne is one of the funniest actresses that does not get her love for how funny she is, ah even though the the accent she's doing is
Rose Byrne's Comedic Talent and Female-Centric Comedy
00:24:06
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silly.
00:24:06
Speaker
ah She still has such great timing, the way she delivers lines. like Her in Neighbors is one of my favorite like comedic performances by an actress. like She is so fucking funny in that. ah So anytime like ah I get to see Rose Byrne really get to flex her comedy chops, like she is so fucking funny.
00:24:23
Speaker
She is. i agree with you about Neighbors. like Her performance in Neighbors is... just incredible and a In a movie full of great comedic performances, she manages to stand out really well. She she has a line in this movie, and we're we're talking about the the main lady, the bad guy lady, right? We're about her, right?
00:24:43
Speaker
Okay, she has a line in this movie that should upset and offend me, but instead I did a spit take and almost choked on my drink. I know exactly which line you're talking about. It's just out of the blue, and I was like, oh! Yeah. I almost choked and died. It was really, really funny. I was like, I should be upset about that, but I'm not. And that's actually the best joke in the movie.
00:25:04
Speaker
Well, there you go. Yeah. that I mean, yeah, she you're absolutely right, Devon. She's got killer timing, just absolutely able to play with the best of them. And I think if comedy still got made with any kind of consistency anymore, she would be one of our finest comedians. As it stands, unfortunately, Hollywood just doesn't know what to do with com comedians anymore.
00:25:26
Speaker
yeah You know what we do? We get her and Chloe Fineman in the same movie as like mother, daughter or cousin or something because they look exactly alike. You put them in the same clothes in the same wig and you wouldn't be able to tell the two apart.
00:25:40
Speaker
That's well observed. Yes, I think that would be a good pairing, ah comedy duo where you wouldn't be able to tell which was which. Right. But I mean, so few comedies get made anymore, and particularly female centric ones that there's only like a handful of comedians that they people tend to go to. And I don't think Byrne is tragically a big enough name yet to really be able to contend for a lot of those, which is sad because she's really, really good. That's sad.
00:26:06
Speaker
Yeah, which is crazy to say that she's not big enough, but like she's also been around for like ah for a while. Exactly. Didn't realize her and a Bobby Convalli are married. Or not married, but they're partners.
00:26:18
Speaker
Oh my god. ah Yeah, since 2012. So while they were making this movie, they were together. That's amazing. I i love Bobby Cannavale. I think he is phenomenal. love Bobby. I think he is so good in this. like they Again, not given a lot to do, but really makes the most out him. Right? Him coming in at the end, i was like, oh man, I was like... ah ah could i i When he came in at the end, i was like, okay, thought I saw his name in the credits, but then I was like, where has he been this whole movie? He's playing around at the beginning a little bit, but like the focus shifts off of him so quickly and in this movie again.
00:26:50
Speaker
so forgettable. You almost don't recognize that he's been in the movie to begin with, and then they pivot hard back to him. But then I'm like motivations because it's like, oh, he's working with – Reina, but then, oh, he's not. And it's like, so was I was confused as to what his role in this thing was until though those final scenes at the end.
00:27:10
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And this cast is very large. And it's just like, this is a really large cast. And it's like, there's so many names you want to like give people things to do. But then it's like, ah you know, the fact that like Richard Brake just comes in to get shot in the head at the end of the movie. Like what? Like, you know, you get out him and that's what you do with them. But, um you know, you you can only do so much, I guess. Like, um ah I mean, shout out Allison Janney. Also fucking hilarious.
00:27:32
Speaker
Yeah. ah her like just the the whole sequence of her uh dogging on cooper about the pink eye is so fucking funny god not right over the phone i loved everybody in the basement which is what they call like where all the people in your ear sit like everyone in there is like a really great comedian and they try to give them like little moments but it all boils down to there's bats in here but like the one girl sitting there's a mess on my tits That's exactly what I was about to call out. Just the, the cat, just the way that line just gets tossed off is so comedically perfect. She's just letting you know, she's not complaining or upset. She's just letting you know that that's what's happening.
00:28:14
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There is a mouse. Keeping you, you could say keeping you abreast of the situation. There it is. There it is. We did it, everybody. yes.
00:28:24
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ah But you also have like Sam Richardson just kind of in the background for a lot of this movie, like really great comedian from Werewolves Within, from I Think You Should Leave, Detroiters, like really funny guy, but just not given anything to do in the background there. And that's, again, you're you're casting this movie with a lot of great up and coming comedic talent and then not really giving them anything to do and just kind of casting them so that they can riff and stuff you're going to end up cutting from the movie to begin with. So.
00:28:54
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Not in the unrated cut. Apparently not. Yeah, I don't know why. I mean, again, I was just like, if it's if it's there, I always go for it, you know, and I did not need to for this one.
00:29:06
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um You know, ah Paul Fee, ah nobody's clamoring for his director's cut on things. I watched the director's cut of Ghostbusters and there are like whole plot points that are cut out of that movie. Like Elizabeth Perkins is in the movie, is in the extended cut, does not show up in the, in the theatrical cut at all.
00:29:26
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um The, the, the brother-in-law from Weeds is in there as well as like the Dean of the college, not actually in the theatrical cut at all. is just really weird. The stuff that he like chooses to leave in and take out.
00:29:40
Speaker
There's i wonder, I mean, obviously, I've only seen the one version, so i can't really compare the two to like really figure out which scenes like I extended or anything. ah But there's there's one scene that I feel like either a was like one of the like, ah extended things that they like kept in or be they just like missed cutting this guy's face.
00:30:00
Speaker
But there's a moment where Rose Byrne delivers a line to ah to Nancy ah when it's like, and they're standing there with ah her and ah the the other guy, Anton, the like Swedish bygarde. And then, ah and she's like, she's like, yeah, she's one of our best. She's really good at things. And Rose Byrne's like, what, like getting things out of cabinets?
00:30:20
Speaker
And Anton, he was about to break so hard and he just had this giant smile on his face when he was about to break. And I was like, oh, this had to have been just an extra riff ah take because he like he almost lost it. It's so amazing. and Yeah, that would that is such a great line, too. But then the ah Miranda Hart is the name of the actress playing Nancy, like her reaction to it, like just like that was way funnier than what that like. That is such a forced reaction. But that line is legitimately great. Like.
00:30:54
Speaker
like the the way the reaction was filmed, like made the actual line seem less than, which is a yeah bummer. Cause that was really fucking funny. I love those scenes in the, in movies where you can tell they have to cut really fast because everyone else in the scene is like that far from breaking.
00:31:11
Speaker
One of my, like ah the Gene Hackman, I was going to make espresso and young Frankenstein and or Michael Hitchcock slapping Bob Balaban on his bald pate in mighty wilder.
00:31:22
Speaker
You said Gene Hackman. Gene Hackman is in Young Frankenstein as the blind man. Okay, alright, I'm just making sure. Because there's a couple genes in there. i said the right gene. I'll tell ya, I've only seen it like twice because you know I don't get down with that shit.
00:31:35
Speaker
You don't like Mel Brooks. I do, so trust me on this one. You know who I do like that we were just talking about? Um... our good Our good friend ah Peter Serafinowicz.
00:31:47
Speaker
Am I saying that right? Witch. Okay. So brilliant performance and his his character ending that i thought was the best because I still don't know which which one he is. I still don't know. And I thought that was brilliant.
00:32:03
Speaker
No, that was a crazy accent switch, like mid-sentence, whenever, yeah like, my Italian accent, ah! Fucking, or a British accent was so funny. And then I was like, wait, i was like, yeah, which one is he? i was like, I have no idea. he's that He's fantastic. He's fantastic this movie. And that's another thing about this film. I think the way that it's crafted...
00:32:26
Speaker
Something that I enjoy is um specifically like with his character, where if he hadn't played it the way that he played it, that it would have been a fucked up character that
Comedy's Power to Address Offensive Topics
00:32:38
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you didn't like.
00:32:38
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Yeah. But just because like he played it so silly, you can't get mad at the guy. And every everybody that does something that would be offensive in this movie, it's not offensive just because the way it's played.
00:32:52
Speaker
At least it's not offensive to me. Well, that's my thing with comedy in general. Like, you know, when you, it's, that's why it's so stupid when you hear certain comedians like, oh, well, we can't say anything anymore. And it's like, no, you can say whatever you want. It's just, that you gotta be good. Like you gotta set it up. Well, it's gotta be delivered. Well, and like, as long as there's no true malice, I believe you can joke about literally anything. Ask Anthony Jesselnik. That's his whole fucking thing. And he is one of the best at it.
00:33:19
Speaker
And he is such an example. So like, yeah, I think this movie, like, i mean, I think it only sticks out that way because, again, this movie does feel starkly 2015. um ah But at the same time, like, yeah, as long as you fucking deliver it in a funny way and it's like not with like actual malice behind it, like you can joke about anything. And this movie does do a really good job at that.
00:33:40
Speaker
Right. I heard Jessel neck talking on a, on a podcast earlier. I think it was just this past week, an appearance that he had made. And he's talking about, you know, people like, Oh, we can't go after. He's like why are you trying to go after anyone?
00:33:52
Speaker
He goes, as long as like you're open and accepting people will, will know that and realize, yeah, you may be saying some fucked up shit, but like, you're not attacking anybody. You're not punching down. You're just commenting on something.
00:34:05
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He goes, you have to be good to be able to do that. And not everyone is. And that's, that's, I think that's why a lot of George Carlin's older stuff um still holds up.
00:34:16
Speaker
Right. Even though it's stuff that no one could say today, no matter how they said it. And again, it's something it's the thing, too. It's like there's so many comedians that like misunderstand what made Carlin great. They're all like, you know, you know, he back in his day, you know, you could really let it fly. And it's like Carlin wasn't great because he was saying crazy shit. He was great because he said funny shit, you know, but he said he made the crazy things.
00:34:39
Speaker
you know super funny that that was the brilliance of him not just the fact that he says off the wall things and that's what right so many comedians miss the point of so yeah i totally agree i think this uh film yeah does it a couple times where it was like your reaction just because of like how we are like kind of now it's like your reaction is to go oh wait and then it's like wait no it's okay i can laugh at this like you you know when you like allow yourself to laugh at it absolutely i And I like Peter Serafinovich. I like him in this role. I like him in this movie. He is, i think, a really criminally underrated comedic performer.
00:35:14
Speaker
Like whenever he shows up in a comedic performance, I'm always very excited ah because he is very good. That's pretty much what he did in England, which is where he's from.
00:35:25
Speaker
um and then really kind of got... some comedic role some non he was the tick in the amazon series the tick oh and he was so good that show's so good that's actually a great casting i never watched it patrick warburton combined it's so good it's very good he's very good sad though because they killed it after two seasons ah agreed it lasted a lot longer It should have lasted longer, and it's the reason it didn't last longer is what makes it sting so much.
00:35:55
Speaker
The same with Jean-Claude Van Johnson, another brilliant show that only lasted one season, but that aired during the second season of The Tick, and all of those awesome shows simply got canceled because Prime got a new boss, and he wanted to just get rid of everything and start over.
00:36:11
Speaker
Correct. And that makes me so mad because there was nothing wrong with that show. That show was doing good numbers. There was no reason for either of those shows to be canceled. At all, except somebody wanted to be a dick. Damn, they wanted to be a dick to the tick. Not wanted to be a dick to the tick and Jean-Claude Van Damme or Johnson, if you know about his secret identity.
00:36:31
Speaker
And i I'll say, too, as far as, like, ah you know, like, Peter really selling that character and, like, on, like, the comedy thing. Like, again, like, yeah on the surface, it's like this character is like, oh, my God, he's just there to, you know, like, be annoying and, like, creepy or,
Supporting Roles and Parody in 'Spy'
00:36:46
Speaker
like, whatever. But the thing is, again, with the way that the movie is set up, like for the first half and like everybody shitting on her the whole time, it's actually like I found it like even though I'm like he's like kind of annoying. I was like, it's kind of endearing that it's like, no, this guy genuinely finds her hot and attractive and he is like totally into her, you know, and it's not an unattractive lady. So it makes sense that someone finds her attractive.
00:37:09
Speaker
like so it's like so it doesn't come off as creepy and like as just like oh my god he's like you know even though he says bosom like every other sentence but at the same time it's like no this works because it's like no this is fine like so after everyone's shitting on her the whole movie it's like this is finally somebody's like no no i'm like genuinely i want you bad and it's like yeah i'm i'm i'm i'm cool with that like and so i was i was shocked that she ended up in bed with uh ford at the end instead of uh instead of uh our boy aldo here pretty Particularly when you hear the word bosom, you're like, it's going to be Aldo. And then you pull back and it's Ford. You're like, what the fuck?
00:37:41
Speaker
I think that um I had something to say and then I forgot it. Talking about Peter Tarifinovich. Yeah, i know. No, I think that ah um you can quote me on this and it's going to be very weird out of context.
00:37:57
Speaker
But he he sexually harasses and assaults her in the just the most wholesome way. Yes, you know that's kind of what I was trying to say, but you got got to the me of it. like Because he is like it just me. and like a note like that ah like ah Even though like I do love him, I fast forwarded the untie me scene because like it that scene is literally like six minutes. like That was a long ass scene. And I was like, oh my God, I can't with this right now. So I was just like, all right, I'm just going to skip through this part. That was the one time I couldn't take it Yeah, no, I agree. Like, cause he's like mounting her and it's like, ah like what are we doing here? the battle that scene
00:38:36
Speaker
I'm not a big physical comedy guy either. So it was like a combination of just like, I was like, oh, okay, come on now. Like this is like that one when, ah when a scene in improv isn't working. And then, so somebody just gets more physical.
00:38:49
Speaker
That's what that scene was to me. And it was painful. So that's the only time I was like, all right, this is too much ah from like the, oh, The better version of that scene is the scene in the airplane where she keeps like dipping the plane so that you burn that's crushed by the bodyguards. That's the better version of that. It doesn't go on too long. It's the same basic comedic premise.
00:39:11
Speaker
There is a person on top of another person, but it's, it's done without the sex pestiness and it doesn't go on for nearly as long. So that is, I think the better version of that scene.
00:39:22
Speaker
Oh, yeah, totally. um i want I want to talk about Jude Law as a Bradley Fine this and kind hitting the beats because one now watching this movie, it pisses me off that Jude Law hasn't been didn't get to do a Bond movie. I was like, I was like, look, he's perfect.
00:39:39
Speaker
I was like, that like that opening scene like is perfect. I was like, as ah I was like, that's a really great Bond opening. Uh, and then like, but I mean, but he does, he's also perfect for this though, too, to play again, like a very good, cause there's been multiple versions of that too. Like the, the parody version of bond and in some version.
00:39:57
Speaker
And, uh, I think he plays it really well here. Cause like he is the straight man, but he does get to be like a little goofy. Cause he's like, the whole thing is that he is just like, uh, very aloof.
00:40:08
Speaker
Uh, this is like whole thing is like, Even though he's like a spy that has all the skills and everything, it's like he is like also like just like constantly distracted and does not see anything around him. Right. mean, it's like with James Bond with like the comedy dialed up like six percent. Yeah, I mean, but. but I mean, come on. It's like, he looks so great in a suit to the accent. I mean, he really is perfect. and it just like, it pisses me off that I was like, we had all this back and forth with the bond rights, Daniel Craig, not deciding if he's done or not.
00:40:38
Speaker
Uh, if Daniel Craig would have gotten his shit together and like, like, you know, just buckled down on however many movies I'm doing, uh, we probably could have gotten Jude Law maybe five years ago as, uh, as bond a little bit past that now, but like in this era, 2015, like he would have been perfect. Um, so like,
00:40:56
Speaker
It's a bummer that we'll, know, that at least we do have this, but um it's a bummer that I will just have to fantasize about Jude Law actually as James Bond. I feel like he was one of the names that they were tossing around after Brosnan's run ended. It was like him and Clive Owen before they ultimately settled on Daniel Craig. I feel like Law was a part of that conversation.
00:41:17
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Clive Owen would have been great too. The reason that Clive Owen didn't want it is because he had done the ah the basically the thing that the transporter was based on ah the driver for those BMW commercials.
00:41:31
Speaker
Like there was a series of short films and he did all of those, but they have like, they would hire prominent directors. So like Ang Lee does one, John Woo does one guy. Richie does one.
00:41:42
Speaker
um But yeah, all these people doing these and they're essentially just, car commercials so um so i that's kind of the reason he didn't want to do bond but yeah you've you've definitely got him as kind of the bond riff you've got statham as kind of the the new wave of the spy film ah maybe even more something similar to the craig bond in this he he was like a yeah he was like kind of like a combination of like craig bond but then also fast and furious energy like kind of that action bravado
00:42:15
Speaker
as well getting ready to join oh he he's uh which speak of uh speaking of um fucking fast and furious franchise uh the person he teamed up with it's giving fucking uh uh the rock and sam jacks at the beginning of the other guys there you go like that's very much what statham's energy is giving in this uh and uh yeah kind of seeing him as a a riff on the the the craig bond because ah you know again it's like statham he couldn't be a bond unfortunately uh because uh one of my one thing i've ah learned through my statham journey uh the man has sexual chemistry with nobody uh nary of single female lead does he have any actual chemistry with and i'll say this is one of the better versions like
00:43:01
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Like him with Melissa McCarthy, he actually does have sexual chemistry with her He does not have that with any of his other female co-stars. Like I watched ah Parker. He's with Jennifer Lopez.
00:43:12
Speaker
Nada. Nothing there. um ah You know, ah the transporter movies always keep trying to make him, ah you know, a sexy guy. No. So it's like Statham would never be able to be Bond, unfortunately, because he's just he doesn't have the sexual charisma to be Bond.
00:43:27
Speaker
ah But I like... um him being just like the version of like the, the super agent, you know, um like when he just like, you know, cause half of his lines are just like, you like we were saying earlier, it's like not only stuff that he did in the movie crank, but just like, also just like things that action guys say, you know, ah is ah the, the arm had been completely ripped off and I reattached it with this arm. It's just like, what? Like, like so like so many of the things are just him,
00:43:55
Speaker
uh playing on the the the just like super action guy and again even though it's like i wanted more but i like how he knocks himself out in the climax finale like he shows up and he's like it's me i'm here to help and then gets caught on the door and knocks himself out i thought was actually hilarious because it was i was like finally like this is the scene statham's gonna get unleashed upon this you know uh yeah there's a mob here and nope he gets taken out and doesn't even get to participate in the finale Right. Which is perfect. Like that's the I remember not to invoke a a very canceled person, but I remember in the season three finale of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Joss Whedon asking Alexis Denizov, who had been playing this kind of really buttoned up character the whole season. and
00:44:43
Speaker
Like, do you want to like actually like be a badass? Do you want to sit the fight out? Like, what do you want to do? He goes, I think it'd be great. If I and this is Alexis, he goes, I want to run in and get knocked out immediately and be out for the entire fight.
00:44:55
Speaker
And he's like, done. And that's what he does. And it's perfect. It's such a perfect moment. And Statham does the exact same thing here. And again, I think it works perfectly. It's such a great moment.
00:45:06
Speaker
And it's a huge laugh because, again, it's not what you're expecting from Statham. And it's it's like perfect, too, because, like again, he like like you can see it in Statham's eyes. like he He says everything so seriously, but you can see behind his eyes that he is aware and he's in on the joke.
00:45:24
Speaker
ah it's It's a very interesting thing, because i mean he like i eat the it's not until that final shot, whenever he's in bed with ah Melissa, is ah it's the only time he smiles the entire movie. The whole rest movie, he is literally so dead-ass serious.
00:45:39
Speaker
Oh, my God. His delivery when he goes, all right, here's what we do. I go into the face off machine, get a whole new face. I turn up. They never know it's me. is so like I died. oh my God. And then do you have quarters? It costs 50 cents. He goes, what? I got to pay.
00:45:56
Speaker
Oh, my God. So funny. The face off machine. And it is. It's it is. the The humor comes from the fact that he is in a different movie than everybody else. Like he's in the serious action version of this movie, but that's not the movie everyone else is in. And so he he just like keeps falling short of everything else.
00:46:17
Speaker
and But he seriously is committed to being in that movie. and it's And it is such a riff on all of his like action. He'd been playing the transporter since 2002, is when he kicks off that franchise. He's been doing this for over an a decade, this this action stuff.
00:46:33
Speaker
So to see him... like take himself a little less seriously, like, cause that's not something action guys are generally known for doing. Like Willis did it. Stallone did it. Arnie got there eventually, but like that's, it's almost a rite of passage for these guys to do like the comedic version of that.
00:46:53
Speaker
But yeah, Particularly with this wave of action stars, the guys in the Fast and Furious franchise, etc. That's just not something they're willing to do is to make themselves look silly. So to see him do that is so welcome and honestly puts him heads and shoulders above the rest of those guys, in my opinion.
00:47:12
Speaker
I wouldn't. I don't know if I'd say a lot of those guys are unwilling to do that. I just don't think that anybody's really giving them the chance because you have stuff like like Be Cool with The Rock, where he plays an aspiring actor who is a bodyguard who is also gay, and it's one of the funniest characters I've ever Yeah, but that's way before he was even doing most of his action stuff, though. So he like because because again, fast forward later to the Fast and Furious movies where him and Vin Diesel are writing in their contracts that they can't lose in fights, you know, shit like that. Again, in all of that, Statham was not that guy. And in in like, you know, he does ah fear ah seven, eight and Hobbs and Shaw movie. And he never was like, oh, no, I can't take this amount of hits like because that's ah one thing like. um
00:47:58
Speaker
A lot of ah Statham's movies, um you know, he's a smaller guy and he gets the shit beat of him in some of those movies. So it's like he's already willing to do that. So like I think it very much is a lot of action stars these days don't want to take the piss out of themselves if they want to be the main action guy. I'd say ah most recently like Batista ah has ah has ah done it a few times where he's kind of taken the piss out of himself a bit.
00:48:23
Speaker
Well, I think, i think ah which is weird that you mentioned him because I was going to mention like ah John Cena. It tends to be like the wrestler guys who are already kind of, they have a background in camp because wrestling is very campy.
00:48:37
Speaker
And you have to you have to mix the intensity with just enough silliness to get away with any of it. and right the rock The Rock, weirdly, is the exception to that rule because, again, once he started in his action persona, once he became a brand, which is something that I've talked about a lot on this podcast about one of the reasons I dislike The Rock, is because he is now a brand entity unto himself, and so he can't compromise the brand.
00:49:03
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The brand can't look weak, which means he can't look weak. Well, I would argue that maybe we're on the cusp of that being a thing of the past since he's he's doing a couple serious roles.
00:49:14
Speaker
I hope you're right. He's doing that ah that ah UFC movie, the which people say he's fantastic in, and he's Scorsese's next movie.
00:49:25
Speaker
Okay. And hopefully, hopefully, yeah, hopefully is out of, ah yeah, kind of that little era that he was in. but And we know that's that's I think that's why I'm so hopeful, because I think you're right. A lot of these guys probably aren't willing to do it, but I want them to is the thing, because I've seen what some of these guys can do. I've seen Vin Diesel's early career. I saw the film that he wrote and directed and started himself.
00:49:46
Speaker
And it's fantastic. And he's fantastic. And I've seen Find Me Guilty. Like you see these little sparks. these sparks of like fantastic actors in these guys. But once they get used to doing one thing, they just get paid so much for it.
00:50:01
Speaker
Well, and so it takes up all of their time. Like these big budgeted, like tentpole blockbuster movies, they take a while to make. Well, I think that's, again, why it works so well in this. Because like as I've been going through Statham's career, it's like, you know, he he has a smidge of a variety. Like, you could early in his career and like up until 2010,
00:50:24
Speaker
he would do some roles where he's like, he's trying to do like a little bit of actual acting, you know, like here and there. I mean, obviously like even the, the guy Richie movies that he was in, he's not the action guy in those movies. And he really doesn't become the action guy until obviously he does the transporter movies. And once that's done, pretty much everything after that is mostly action guy stuff.
00:50:44
Speaker
But like, he's tried to, you know, actually do some stuff here and there, but yeah, At the same time, ah he there is a lot of consistency amongst his work, especially in 2010 to now.
00:50:56
Speaker
There is a lot of these one-word title movies that are his generic ex-agent, ex-soldier, ex-this, like whatever. And so many of that. And ah ah one of my favorite interviews he was doing, he was doing like a radio show. I think it was like to promote the Meg or something like that.
00:51:14
Speaker
And he was just like, he's just like, look, I'm not a trained actor. He was like, I was, ah he was like, I was a fucking mechanic whenever I like got my like first auditions and shit like that. He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, I'm not trained like that. He's like, I'm not good per se. Like he's like really laughing. He's like, he's like, but I know what I am good at and know the things that I can do. He's like, I stay in my lane.
00:51:36
Speaker
And I was like, I appreciate that from you, Mr. Statham. You want to know why he has that confidence about him? He is a short King. his His partner is at least like like four inches taller than him, and he is so confident about it. Good for him. like he is like So it's like that that's that's the the humbleness that he's rocking.
00:51:54
Speaker
That's amazing. I think you were saying that he only kind of knows how to do one thing, and i think most of the time people know how to harness that. But have you guys ever seen a little movie called Homefront?
00:52:07
Speaker
I haven't gotten to that one yet. It's on my list. Yeah. I don't want to spoil it too. I'm not going to spoil it for you, but I am going to say that Jason Statham plays a patriotic, homegrown, corn-fed American...
00:52:25
Speaker
with a British accent. Nice. No, they, it's funny. really only knows how to do one thing. No movies. That was a, that was a Jean Claude Van Damme thing. They would always find stupid ways to explain his accent. Like i love in, uh, uh, uh, the fucking one with him and Lance Hendricks, a hard target where they yeah is like, and Oh, he was, he's genuinely a French, uh, new Orleans person. It's like, no, he's not shut up ah ah Working man does a weird thing. i guess they they do it back. Like he is also very patriotic in that, but it's like because he was a British soldier that was working with American soldiers or whatever.
00:53:04
Speaker
So they they kind of explain away in that one. But yeah, haven't gotten to home front yet. ah it's It's coming up. You know who never needed to have their accents explained away? Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sean Connery. Those guys, Sean Connery is playing the most Scottish Russian submarine captain.
00:53:20
Speaker
Totally. most The most Scottish ah Spaniard by way of Egypt. Like just crazy ass shit and just keeping that Scottish accent. Arnold is playing like John Smith.
00:53:33
Speaker
And or John Matrix is the character he plays in Cobra or not. quote It's um Commando. And you're just like, ah yeah, sure. Why not? It just because no one looked like that. Like Arnold wanted to be Superman in the Richard Donner Superman movie. Like, can you even imagine an Austrian accent in Superman?
00:53:54
Speaker
I mean, it's so weird that some people can't can't do anything but their own voice. That's so weird to me. But I guess that's how it is some for some people. and jingle all the way tried to pass off arnold schwarzenegger as a howard langston from minnesota yes sure sure why not but uh yeah statham literally always gets to keep his accent uh fun fact um uh i've been playing um a dnd campaign with my homies uh We've ongoing one campaign for three years.
00:54:26
Speaker
And then we we just filmed our first series of out Let's Plays for like a different campaign. ah But my character that I've been playing for three years, um my initial ah intent was to ah do his voice, be a riff on Jason Statham.
00:54:39
Speaker
but I'm terrible at impressions. I'm like the one non-actor in our D&D group. ah So it is it's not really there. like i don't I was supposed to have the British accent. I dropped that after a while.
00:54:52
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ah So really, it's just me talking very softly ah with a little rasp, and that's Jason Statham. I've gotten better over time, but i hit my D&D character, also heavily influenced by the Statham.
00:55:06
Speaker
nice what what ah what what What class and race do you play? you don't um ah For you D&D nerds out there, um my guy's name is Kygo Lorenz. He is a former a kind of a former CIA agent actually. ah He got... ah double-crossed by the scales the group they work for but he's an eladrin elf um uh and he um is an arcane trickster and also blade singer i'm a multi-class boy so he's a he's a magical assassin a magical fight assassin but not an assassin anymore he's trying one of his arcs is i he try he's trying not to kill people anymore but does it accidentally a lot
00:55:46
Speaker
That's amazing. um is is is So again, could be a Jason Statham movie as well. ah He very much is ah ah heavily influenced, always wearing a suit. Only has one arm too. um and So just like... He was able to put it back on. He was able to put it back on with his other arm.
00:56:05
Speaker
why i just i had't I just felt it in my bones that for some reason you would play bard. i love i had i had a bard in ah in a previous campaign. A bard that was a werewolf.
00:56:16
Speaker
ah He was a gentleman thief and a werewolf and also a bard. That was a fun character. I love that so much. I'm always a bard, but I'm the type of bard that like has a warrior or fighter best friend that I like ride on the back of.
00:56:32
Speaker
So i I talk the shit and then they get hit and it's fantastic. You go hide behind your, your big guy. Yeah. It's just like right on his shoulders. We I like the Claritin and Paladin classes myself, but that's, Hey, we all, but Hey, campaigns need healers like you. There's not enough of y'all to go around. We have our main campaign does not have a main healer.
00:56:56
Speaker
We have one bard that refuses to heal anybody but himself. We have no healer amongst our main group. It's actually quite hilarious. It was like, we were like 10 sessions in and we're like, wait, you have cure wounds and you have all these other cure spells. And he's like, yeah. And we're like, what the fuck have you been doing this whole time?
00:57:16
Speaker
Wow. so in my resolve Physician, heal thyself. um Yeah, God, this this movie is, it is despite you know us talking around it, this movie is actually a lot of fun.
00:57:29
Speaker
The plot, though, completely unessential to this Very unessential. It is, yeah, there's a MacGuffin, there's a nuke, there's a person, and like and and how like they even make a parody of like the fact that, like,
00:57:41
Speaker
who everybody's a double agent who's working for who anymore you know like that even becomes like a parody in it so it's like yeah they're really not going for much in the as far as like a spy plot I'll say i actually really like ah Cooper's like character arc throughout the whole thing of like she's already been good this whole time it's just she's never gotten the chance she's you know uh never had the confidence and like you know i like a classic you know somebody being like no i am good at this shit and like look how capable i am and like uh after being shit on again for like they really go hard on her in that first half of the movie of like how much they are shitting on her character like it is too hard it is crazy yeah ah like the of when ah rose burn like brings up her dress like four times and
00:58:28
Speaker
And she's just like your shitty prom dress. And she's just like, God damn it. Can you stop talking about the dress? Like, like, so it's like people really go hard on her. So like, it is actually very satisfying whenever you see her get to ah do, ah you know, be the hero. And again, Melissa McCarthy, big gal out here, you know, moving and like doing full action set piece and stuff like that's really fun to see. So like, i actually really liked ah Susan Cooper's like character arc aside from the ah spy plot of the movie.
00:58:59
Speaker
Definitely. This movie does, though, rely on one of my least favorite film tropes, particularly for larger comedic actors, ah which is the fatty fall down trope.
Critique of Comedy Tropes and Cultural References
00:59:07
Speaker
Which I'm saying, at least they don't do it as much. i would like its Ghostbusters is much more egregious about that one. about that one i was i was glad that they they they do it a few times for sure, but i was like ah they didn't over they didn't spam the button in this film, at least. Yeah. Yeah and first I don't know Why like I don't know Like Feig relies on that McCarthy relies on that Like and I know a lot of Heavier actors tend to rely on that Just because I think it's such a reliable Laugh which is so disappointing That's literally the entirety of the movie Tammy and I think that's another reason I was like off the Melissa McCarthy train ah Because that movie is fucking awful It's like one of the worst movies I've ever seen and like 80% of that movie is her falling over things
00:59:53
Speaker
And now I agree with you um that the the trope of larger people taking big pratfalls is, it's not great. But I think in Melissa McCarthy's case, and I'm not so much defending it as kind of explaining it, is I think that she takes a lot of her physical comedy cues from Chris Farley.
01:00:16
Speaker
And I think she said as much. And so I think she's kind of she's kind of a fan of that kind of comedy, which I'm not going to take that away from her. Like, I get it that it's not it's not the highest form of comedy, but also I think I respect it a little more just because I know where it's coming from when when it comes to her, you know?
01:00:36
Speaker
Which, I mean, that's that's fair. If it's something that she wants to do, that's fine. i just It never sits well with me. i think that's one of the things I liked about Belushi is that Belushi wouldn't... He'd start to fall and then he'd turn it into something impressive like a backflip or... yeah like He had such a great physical presence. You'd think he's about to do Fatty Fall Down and then it's, you know, no big guy does a backflip and it's fucking incredible and you're like, okay! He was on so much cocaine he couldn't fall down. I mean, sure.
01:01:07
Speaker
Try to keep that guy on the ground, man. You can't. He's just bouncing around. is I guess the closest he gets to staying on the ground is when he's doing his Joe Cocker impression and just kind of writhing with his art back arch.
01:01:19
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So good. So fucking good. um But yeah, i I, again, it doesn't rely on it too much here. The most egregious example is when she gets on the motorcycle, drives a little bit, and it immediately falls over.
01:01:33
Speaker
And you're just like, okay. Like, really? We don't need that. Yeah. yeah yeah It'd be that way, though. and That's our valid, Steven.
01:01:45
Speaker
and the Yeah, again, this movie being peak 2015 is so interesting. It's like 2015. twenty fifteen I mean, this is 10 years ago at this point now, which is like not a long time, but is kind of a long time, like when you think of stuff. So it was like, it's always interesting when you certain things get dated in movies.
01:02:04
Speaker
And it was like, oh, yeah, there was like at one point she was like, she's like, I'm not tracking on my phone. I'm playing Candy Crush. And I was like, oh, my God, this was peak Candy Crush time. was only 10 years ago like that's kind of crazy but then also i'm like candy crush has been raining for 10 years and they are like the the beginning of like in-app purchases that now have ruined everything thing you know so it's like crazy so like when you hear certain things i get mentioned to like date certain stuff i was like huh i was like yeah 2015 wow
01:02:37
Speaker
i was I was just watching the new Netflix show. i think it was the Netflix show, the Four Seasons. And they reference, I think they reference Farmville.
01:02:48
Speaker
And I'm like, that is a stale reference. Like, what are we doing here? Like, I think that was the movie I was watching where that was a plot point. And I'm just like, oh, that's, no thank you. not Not in the year of our Lord 2025, That
01:03:05
Speaker
It may have may have been another show. i've I've watched a lot of stuff this past week, so I can't rightly comment. but um But yeah, again, just kind of felt out of place. But yeah, this movie generally keeps it pretty fresh for, again, for 2015.
01:03:19
Speaker
um This is McCarthy, I think about halfway through her feed run. Is that right? Because she does Bridesmaids and The Heat. Tammy's not his. He does Spy...
01:03:35
Speaker
and ghost and then she does ghostbusters and then think that's the last thing she's done with him up to this point yes i had to double check to make sure thunder force wasn't him and thank goodness that was not him no no but i think feig is like switched off back uh over to the anna kendrick blake lively pairing now Well, yeah, um then that's only getting one sequel from that because apparently I haven't watched it yet, but apparently once it's not great. But then also it was so funny watching their ah very sparse press appearances and like Anna Kendrick and b Blake Lively, like obviously hating each other now.
01:04:16
Speaker
ah So ah so that duo is ah not going anywhere with Feig anymore. So we'll see about what he goes on to next. Yeah, because after Ghostbusters in its simple favor, Last Christmas, which I didn't see, but um something called School for Good and Evil.
01:04:33
Speaker
something oh that was ah the Netflix ah one. It's like a Netflix series of like training like fantasy heroes and villains or some shit.
01:04:44
Speaker
Looks like a future episode of the Disenfranchised podcast is what it looks like. Maybe. And then something called Jackpot. Which, um that's John Cena in Awkwafina.
01:04:57
Speaker
Oh, that's that movie with the the lottery where she like wins it and is like, everyone's trying to kill her. oh Yeah, that was heavily advertised for a couple days.
01:05:08
Speaker
Yeah, like my like like most things that come on to the the streaming platforms, which is seems to be where people love dumping comedies these days. He's also got a psychological thriller, ah The Housemaid, coming out in December with Sidney Sweeney and Amanda Seyfried.
01:05:26
Speaker
My partner read the book that was based on and that book is I'm actually kind of looking forward to seeing that one because I can pretty much guarantee we're going to see that one because she she actually read the whole series. So if that movie doesn't do well, future episode of the Disenfranchised podcast. ah um Nice. you know wait this this just the the The job security that Hollywood continues to provide this podcast is just very reassuring.
01:05:56
Speaker
Yes. Truly, we love to see it um we've been We've been riffing on this for about an hour now. Any any other major things to say about Spy?
01:06:08
Speaker
oh I mean yeah good good good solid movie um uh I would say as far as like franchises go yeah I again and I totally would have taken a sequel to this I would have been fine with it um I think there's enough uh material that they could have made something even more like uh specific like we were kind of talking about like I think they could have gotten to that point in a sequel um but but um you unfortunately uh because uh I know we'll get to the box office but um ah But yeah, I mean, yeah, solid, solidly enjoyable film. Again, like I just ah really carried by the strength of the cast for real. Like, I mean, so much of it. But I also see that up Paul Feig, like, you know, I can see he's a fan of the spy genre. Like it's not he's not flipping about it. Like, you know, you you can tell he like has reverence and like takes it seriously. There's actually some pretty decent action ah set pieces ah scattered throughout as well that I was actually rather impressed with. I was like, OK, Paul, I was like, you got something you got something in there.
01:07:03
Speaker
The fight scene in the kitchen was probably my favorite. with Yeah, fights in the the fight scene in the kitchen was ah really fun. um Again, that like James Watt opening I thought was ah really great. Like there's a few ah actually like really um solid action set pieces in here. So I was like, you know, I wouldn't mind him us staying in that sandbox. Like him be like the if we're not getting straight comedies anymore, then like go ah do some more action comedies. Like I could see him and ah playing around in that sandbox some more.
01:07:28
Speaker
Absolutely. And I feel like this movie may have like burned him out on that, like, or the the lack of solid response may have burned him out on that. ah In terms of a lack of specificity, I just had a thought as you were saying that.
01:07:42
Speaker
um I feel like part of that is that Melissa McCarthy doesn't have a dedicated comedy persona in the same way that someone like Mike Myers can and has, like, he's got that very goofy kind of sense of humor. I don't know...
01:07:57
Speaker
Because it's part of the comedy is this actor in this situation equals comedy. And so I think if there if she had more specificity in the role, in the character, I feel like the movie might have been little more focused. Yeah, because because with her, her thing is she's not a joke generator. She's a reactor mainly. Like, that's where her comedy mainly comes in, is her reacting to other people's saying things to her. And, like, that's where... Like, I mean, how again, like as much as I love her and ah but like, again, talk about certain things going on too long. Like a lot of her jokes in this movie are her just literally repeating what somebody else said and then like adding as something to it.
01:08:37
Speaker
ah You know, so it's like, yeah.
Melissa McCarthy's Comedy Style
01:08:39
Speaker
So, yeah, she's not a joke generator like a Mike Myers is to be able to. be ah steadily you know ah putting out you know jokes herself versus, again, having to react to everybody. So, ah yeah, I think that's where her like ah non-specific comedy style comes in.
01:08:56
Speaker
and And I think Feig is also relatively non-specific as well, which also kind of hurts a little bit. and Speaking of Melissa McCarthy and SNL, because you said Mike Myers, um she is a fantastic host. She's one of those hosts that every time she hosts...
01:09:16
Speaker
you think, yeah, this person would fit right in with could just be a cast member easily. She's one of those people that surprises me that she wasn't. She has always given me that vibe of like, oh, past SNL alone. That's why such great host. I mean, she did play Sean Spicer.
01:09:34
Speaker
was she did play sean spicer there for a while so she was like a little bit of a guest star like sort of part of the cast okay maybe that's what i was thinking in the same way that alec baldwin was yeah or like dana carvey and andy sandberg at the beginning of this season right um and my real yes yeah yes let's we forget ah Actually, Dana Carvey stuck around a little longer than Mike Myers. Now is back doing the Elon Musk thing. So ah he actually played himself in a sketch this week and the season finale.
01:10:12
Speaker
Which is strangely enough, was probably one of the best episodes of the season, which isn't saying much. Sorry, but it isn't so like I still love you, SNL, but the season was just kind of meh.
01:10:25
Speaker
um But it was one of the best episodes of the season, but it also had the worst sketch I've ever seen in my life, which was the 10 to 1 sketch.
01:10:37
Speaker
Watch the episode, and that last sketch is just, I've never seen anything that bad on live television. It was just so bad So bad. And it was one of those where like, it was one of those where like, they were all breaking too.
01:10:56
Speaker
And like, they were inexplicably like eating things, which was supposed to be funny. Crickets. Crickets. Sometimes oh bad sometimes you break when you're not getting the laughs you think you should be.
01:11:10
Speaker
Well, no, that's, that's the worst part about it is that they were having so much fun and it was, and you could tell that they were like, okay, this is the formula. It's going to kill because we're doing all the things that always kill.
01:11:22
Speaker
Right. But I think the fact that they trusted in the fact that all that stuff was going to kill instead of writing a good sketch, it's so bad. The worst sketch I've ever seen in my life.
01:11:36
Speaker
Beware. take care. the strings. And brush your hair. Yes. And scene. Thank you. There it is.
01:11:47
Speaker
We did it, everybody. um That is it. So this movie comes out almost 10 years ago, like today, like June 5th, this movie comes out. Yeah. This episode will come out on May 22nd. So like literally two weeks before the 10 year anniversary. That's perfect. And get that SEO bump.
01:12:07
Speaker
There it is. Yeah. ah This movie opens at number one for the week of June 5th to $29.1 million dollars on its way to a total domestic box office of $110, $111 million rounding ah hundred and eleven million rounding up ah It gets another $123 million internationally for a grand total of $234 million dollars worldwide off of a production budget of $65 million. That's pretty okay. Not a bad return on investment, honestly. A little over a little over half or a little over double what you what you set out to do. It's not bad.
01:12:46
Speaker
um But not apparently enough for us to get the further adventures of Susan Cooper, super spy. That's too bad. The rest of the top 10, speaking of Dwayne, the rock Johnson at number two, we have San Andreas.
01:13:04
Speaker
Oh yes. ah The rock punches an earthquake. Good yeah times. Exactly. i will say that movie also has one of my all time favorites, Carla Gugino. Yes, please. And thank you.
01:13:16
Speaker
um And Insidious Chapter 3 in at number three, ah opening this week to 22.7 million. am in fourth place Speaking of yawn, in fourth place, opening this week to 10.2 million.
01:13:32
Speaker
Entourage the movie. ha on Triple yawn. And pivoting a hard back from that yawn in fifth place in its fourth weekend, down from number four the week before, ah but already having grossed $131 million dollars is Mad Max colon Fury Road. Ah,
Movie Discussions and Personal Preferences
01:13:51
Speaker
yes. Pivoting. Did you mean, did you mean Piven-ing from Entourage?
01:13:57
Speaker
No. to I sure didn't mean that at all. i couldn't let it go. hi I really wish you had. really wish it had um let it go Rounding out the top 10, we've got Pitch Perfect 2 at number 6. Speaking of Anna Kendrick.
01:14:16
Speaker
Tomorrowland in number 7. Hey, liked that movie. I can't wait to cover that movie because I liked It was a little heavy-handed in its message. Really? A Brad Bird film is heavy-handed? But it was really, really good. I liked it a lot. I can't wait to watch it again because maybe I don't like it anymore. Who knows?
01:14:34
Speaker
Speaking of heavy-handed, in 8th place we have Avengers colon Age of Ultron at number 8. um Whedon putting a lot of mustard on that one. I defend that one. i think it's still better than half of the MCU stuff, especially of the past five years or so. like i I'm a big Ultron defender. I enjoy that. I think Age of Ultron is better than the 2012's Avenger, personally. Oh.
01:15:00
Speaker
personally devon you just always coming in with the hot takes and i fucking love it well done sir ah you you never disappoint ever ever i appreciate it no you you're the man dude i love you um in ninth place uh the cameron crowe film aloha wherein uh emma uh was it famous asian emma stone right playing uh playing asian emma stone yeah yeah And finally, in 10th place, future episode of this podcast, the Poltergeist remake with Sam Rockwell.
01:15:35
Speaker
i always forget that that movie happened. Even does he dance in it? Do you think he dances in it? He dance. It's in his contract. He gets to dance in every movie. better He should.
01:15:45
Speaker
And then this one, I'm throwing this one in just for you, Tucker. At number 11 opening this week is Love
Review of 'Spy' and Statham's Performance
01:15:50
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and Mercy. Oh, I liked that one. no though but yeah John Cusack and Paul Dano.
01:15:59
Speaker
And they both... and Okay, so John Cusack to me is another one those actors. Even though you can put him in any role, he pretty much plays as the same guy.
01:16:12
Speaker
yeah But Love and Mercy, i never expected that from John Cusack. He really steps outside of himself and becomes Brian Wilson. And it's... Unless even two actors play one character and like how they like kind of come together. And like, I think they did a really good job, not only like and for the casting, but like the performance is actually like feel. I'm like, yeah, no, that's totally believable that Paul Dano would age into John Cusack. I was like, I believe that guy. Yeah. I was like, I believe that.
01:16:40
Speaker
And in fact, the more Paul Dano ages and doesn't look like John Cusack, the more disappointed I get. It is quite true. Paul Dano still looks exactly the same. Right. He has not changed at all.
01:16:51
Speaker
Nope. um the tomatometer score for spy is a 95 certified fresh i remember people really enjoyed this when it came out uh i joined letterbox in 2015 uh so i'm coming up on like my 10 year anniversary of letterboxing and uh i remember uh this being an early a favorite so this was also when i was like in still like in a bunch of like a movie discussion facebook groups And people really went to bat for this one. I remember when it came out that people like enjoyed it. So that that Rotten Tomatoes score actually doesn't surprise me.
01:17:24
Speaker
Right on. The critics consensus simultaneously broad and progressive. Spy offers further proof that Melissa McCarthy and writer director Paul Feig bring out the best in one another and deliver scores of belly laughs along the way.
01:17:38
Speaker
ah The meta score on this one, 75 based on 40 critic reviews, generally favorable reviews. And Letterboxd is not loading on my computer, so I'm going to load it on my phone here. Bear with me a moment.
01:17:52
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ah what Should I guess while you while you do that? Please do. Okay. um
01:18:00
Speaker
I don't know. Comedies are hard in Letterboxd. Um, I'm going to say I feel like this going to be a safe one. Uh, 3.6 and 4.0 is my range.
01:18:14
Speaker
I'll go. i'm not even going to, I'm going to say this is a 3.5. five You're both a little high. It's a 3.2. Oh, really? That's actually lower than I expected. Huh? Yeah. Huh?
01:18:31
Speaker
both Both went a little high. It is. Particularly because most of the people that I am friends with on Letterboxd really enjoyed this movie. um Devon, what are you giving Spy out of five stars?
01:18:45
Speaker
I might give it a 3.5. I'll give it a generous 3.5. It's kind of more in between a 3 and a 3.5. It's not quite low enough to be a 3, but it's not quite what I would typically give 3.5 A 3.25 is what I'm giving this one. Like, you know, it's good. Like, ah you know, i ah even though it is ah lengthy for a comedy, um I still, ah you know, for the most part, was enjoying myself. And again, I would i would disagree with ah that to mom ah Rotten Tomatoes quote. ah I didn't have nary a belly laugh in this, but I had a lot of strong chuckles. ah is a consistent a consistent chuckler, that's what this movie is for me.
01:19:25
Speaker
Like a good just like, ha ha. I like that. That was a good one. ah Things like that. So it wasn't breaking a bang for me, but I'll rewatch this at some point. I'll throw it back on and and check it out again. So, yeah, I'm going 3.25.
01:19:39
Speaker
Let me ask you this, Devon. How does this rank overall on your Statham ranking so far? So I'm going to eventually, once I finish this, I'm going to have to do two lists because, you know, it's that classic case of like, I rank it by the movie or do I rank it by the person and their quality? Because again, he's not in this movie a ton. I truly thought he was going be in it more.
01:20:02
Speaker
so So this one makes a tougher case even to where I put it on the list. And like and it's kind of the reason I'm going to have to make two lists. Because as far as like Jason Statham performances, I mean, from what I've watched, top five, I'd say.
01:20:16
Speaker
Like this is a really ah strong comedic performance from him. And it's really fun. But again, just since he doesn't have the screen time and everything, it's it's not his movie. It's not a Jason Statham movie. So um it'll probably be somewhere as I'm looking at this list. um It looks like it's ah just out it'll be just outside the top 10. This will probably be at like number 12 as far as his movies go.
01:20:40
Speaker
respectable, though, given like and and what are some of the big I know you had said on Blue Sky the other day you were you had been saving this one, but we we do it a little early. i was going to save this one towards the end because I know that this was a pretty popular one. So I was going to save it. But this is, again, nice midway point as I've hit. um Obviously, out one, if
Jason Statham Film Recommendations
01:21:00
Speaker
y'all haven't seen Wrath a Man.
01:21:02
Speaker
fucking watch wrath of man uh it's another guy richie one but it's like a very restrained guy richie and it's a really great heist revenge movie uh and jason statham again is actually it does some of his best actual like acting in that movie but also some really great um uh action scenes in that so wrath man check that one out it was again i think it like came out like uh oh it's the 2021 movie that's why nobody saw it that's why um it's a lot um it slipped through the cracks and i think people should go and check it out because it's actually like really really good um and so that's a really good one um i just watched uh safe the other day that's uh one of the gems that i found i was like oh i was like this was actually pretty fun and he gets to do a bit of actual acting in it um i enjoyed that
01:21:52
Speaker
um And then if I had to throw out one more, unfortunately, Working Man is pretty bad, um it but also like painfully bad. like The second half of the movie is so bad that we were actually like losing our minds in the theater, cracking up. So it's a fun watch with friends, but it is not a good movie, unfortunately.
01:22:10
Speaker
um o ah This one is like a very weird one that I enjoyed i because... Unfortunately, Jason Statham hasn't really done much horror, um but ah he did this movie called 13, and it's ah this weird like little Death Games movie. Oh my god, and it has 50 Cent in it. I totally forgot that 50 Cent is in this movie. Oh.
01:22:31
Speaker
So it's this movie called 13 where ah this underground Russian roulette game is happening with these all these people. And there's participants. And then the participants have their handlers that like ah ah field the bets and stuff because this is a rich people watching people play Russian roulette kind of deal.
01:22:52
Speaker
And ah Jason Statham, he plays one of the ah one of the handlers. It's not an action guy role. This is him being like a serious crime guy. And he's actually, because in most his movies, Jason Statham is a good guy mostly.
01:23:05
Speaker
Like he's maybe a flawed, rugged guy, but he's always a good guy in his movies. ah He is like ah manipulating his special needs brother in this roulette game.
01:23:15
Speaker
And I'm like, oh shit, he's a piece of shit in this movie. ah But he guess i he wears a funny hat. um ah Jason Statham is not a hat guy, but movies insist on putting hats on him for some reason.
01:23:27
Speaker
And it always looks really funny. ah So 13 is a weird little death games ah kind of style movie. It has Michael Shannon yelling at ah the entire movie so as ah Mickey Rourke.
01:23:40
Speaker
um Mickey Rourke's in it. um And 50 Cent plays his handler in it. And 50 Cent actually really good in that movie. So check out 13. That's like my ah like real good. Like, oh, this is a real small hidden gem that like nobody's heard of that people should check out.
01:23:56
Speaker
Right on. And what are what are some of the big ones that you still have left
Future Reviews and Cinematic Universes
01:24:00
Speaker
to left to see? Oh, I haven't watched i haven't ah started the Expendables series yet. um and So I still have to get to that one. Jason Statham has a lot of really great um character names. I'm excited to meet Lee Christmas in that one.
01:24:15
Speaker
ah So I haven't gotten to that one yet. um Haven't watched ah Ghosts of Mars, ah the John Carpenter movie. um Haven't gotten to that one yet. um And then, yeah, ah and haven't gotten to...
01:24:28
Speaker
um uh oh i actually i haven't seen the bank job that's one that everybody keeps asking if i if i've watched yet right on that was that was around the time when we were just obsessed with robbing banks for some reason as a society jason statham does a lot of heist movies uh as i've ah been going through his filmography about a fourth of his movies are heist movies let's see our previous episode on uh the italian job
01:24:54
Speaker
The 2003 Italian job. Great movie. man Great movie. Very fun. And Statham's really fun in it, too. um Tucker, out of five stars, how were how many are you giving to Spy?
01:25:07
Speaker
I'm going to give it three. ah I feel the exact same way as Devon, but I feel like I can only give it a three just because, like I say, I've... The next time I watch it, I will again be just as surprised at everything. The only thing I remembered from the first time I watched it is that Jude Law wasn't dead.
01:25:26
Speaker
can remember he comes back at the end, but i couldn't remember like if he was a bad guy or like what what the circumstances of that were, but i do remember that he wasn't actually dead. That one got me. I would not expecting should then but was not it.
01:25:40
Speaker
Hopefully that's all I remember for the next time too, because ah I don't know. something There is a bit of a merit to being a forgettable movie, because if you're good enough, every time you watch it, it's a surprise.
01:25:54
Speaker
I Yeah, and this this one is fun enough that even though it's kind of forgettable, you're going to have a good time if you go back to it. so I could watch it every five or ten years, for sure. Yeah, this one got a 3.5 from me. um And I think I've kind of fallen to a similar boat as Devon, but i just I gave it the little extra bump just because of Statham, honestly. like I think Statham gives it the little extra pushover over the hump for me because he's just doing...
01:26:19
Speaker
and Like so much heavy lifting. Paul Fee got him to dance on his knees in a scene with Melissa McCarthy. Like, like again, if he's not down for anything, you know, who else is, you know? So he does, he does give it that little extra ah sauce to it.
01:26:33
Speaker
It's so nice to see one of these guys not take himself seriously. I'd love to see a group, a brooper, a blooper reel of this movie. Oh yeah. I was actually upset that there wasn't a blooper reel. Like I held out through the credits thinking there would be a blooper reel and there wasn't. and I was kind of upset by that. oh And that was met credit reals because the the last the end credit stinger is when Jason Statham breaks. And so that's like you get that and you're like, oh, now I got to see that blooper reel. I got to fucking see that blooper reel.
01:27:05
Speaker
Because just to see him break was fantastic. To see that man smile at all is... My goal on set is to make him break as many times as I can. like that would have been my sole ah mission, making that movie. He's there to make Jason Statham break. That's it. just sent you guys the ah YouTube link to the 11-minute gag reel that they have on YouTube. Oh, there we go.
01:27:30
Speaker
So there you go. That's that's for you guys. i'll I'll put it in the show notes if I remember. um But that is our episode on twenty fifteen s Spy. Devon, thank you so much for being here and for sharing your year of the Statham with us. if If we get to any other Statham movies between now and the end of the year, you're on because there are definitely some other ones that we could cover.
01:27:52
Speaker
um I think Operation Gare was one of the most recent ones. Is that what? Yeah, I haven't. I haven't gotten to that one. Operation Fortune Rude to Gare. That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a movie title for you.
01:28:06
Speaker
i it's You can always tell a movie that's trying for ah for it to become a franchise because they'll just put a colon in and then a subtitle. That's sure-ass thing. There's going to be multiple ah Operation Fortunes and there were not. Right. And I was going to say, I've heard the beekeeper, they're angling for- a beekeeper does have a sequel coming of it like that's already happening and uh the beekeeper sequel is going be an upgrade because timo's doing it uh uh is fucking doing that one so i'm very excited for the beekeeper too okay right on you know go ahead
01:28:41
Speaker
You know what I'm waiting on is into the Stathamverse. Like, bring me a movie where, like, all of his characters, even the ones that nobody remembers, just kind of, like, meet and have to fight some huge people. Well, see, they should did a sequel to the one where it's Jason Statham's character and him rounding up all of his alternative versions.
01:29:01
Speaker
Oh. Oh, yes. Oh, gosh. maybe some bad That movie is not great, but it does have the best new metal soundtrack that there could be for a movie.
01:29:12
Speaker
um It has some really great needle drops in that movie. Nice. okay Well, right. Well, we'll definitely get you back for Operation Fortune, if nothing else.
01:29:22
Speaker
And of course, Hobbs and Shaw. ah Whenever a new Fast and Furious film comes out, we'll get you back for that one. Oh, I got to watch two hours and 40 minutes of that movie. Jeez. Talk about, oh man, that movie.
01:29:35
Speaker
ah But i yes, ah thank you. I hope I um gave a few of your listeners a
Devon's Podcast Involvement and Episode Wrap-Up
01:29:40
Speaker
staith infection and hopefully you guys go on this journey yourselves. so I can't take credit for that one. So, uh, uh, uh, shout out, uh, Paul lay on, on blue sky. Uh, he, I got give him credit for coming up with that one, but I love a good one that title as well.
01:29:58
Speaker
That's a very good one. Devon, where can we, where can we listen to your other shows? Tell us what's coming up on Spectre cinema, tat Tainted Love and what we're doing right now on Pod and the Pendulum. Cause that's all you buddy.
01:30:09
Speaker
Yes, you can find me at all the usual places at underscore daddy disco. That's on Blue Sky Instagram and Letterboxd, where you can also find my Year of the State list and viewings throughout the year.
01:30:20
Speaker
um and You can i hear Spectre Simi Club, new episodes every Tuesday with my boy Garrett McDowell. ah We are in the middle of movies centered around ah scores, soundtracks, and sound design.
01:30:31
Speaker
ah So we are just did an episode with ah Brian Kuiper from Pot and Pendulum on The Changeling, and we'll be ah closing out the month with Sinister. ah and he yeah yeah one of my all-time faves for my birthday and then um you can hear tainted love every other wednesday ah with my girl zobo with a shotgun uh we just dropped an episode on bones it all and the new one when this comes out will be crash uh our horniest episode yet ah because for one of the horniest movies ever made god that movie is so horny ah so horny
01:31:04
Speaker
so was so horny uh and then you can hear me right yes yes that one not not the uh the oscar best winner which geez how'd that happen but uh and then well did it that no it's very well no not at all um it it didn't even age when it first came out like jack nelson's reaction on reading the winner was wow Oh, man, that was a good one.
01:31:30
Speaker
ah Good reaction. Not not the movie. Good reaction. And then over on Pot and Pendulum, also for my birth month, we are into my series pick, which is the Wishmaster series. Four of them.
01:31:42
Speaker
We're hanging out with the gin and it is a fun time. i love that little rascal. You do cameos in that first one. Oh, yeah, that's the who's who of of horror icons in that first movie.
01:31:54
Speaker
um And so, i yeah, so get in on the action over there. ah Thank you, boys, for having me. ah Excited ah for whatever is next. I think a next up will be like one of my other alternative superhero movies.
01:32:06
Speaker
I know we have a couple more of those to get to in Devon's corner. Correct. We got ah you. We got you coming up for both Chronicle and Jumper. So I'm going to fit um try to fit one of those on the schedule for later this year. for cool Yes, it may be. It may be a few months, but we're going to get you back for sure. You may you you and I actually may not be living that far from each other. That'll probably be ah the time ah to do it. Yeah.
01:32:29
Speaker
Right on. um And then this has been the disenfranchised podcast. You can find us on blue sky, YouTube and letterboxd at disenfranch pod. Shoot us an email disenfranch pod at gmail.com. Let us know how we're doing or suggest a failed franchise starter that you would like to see us cover.
01:32:44
Speaker
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01:32:57
Speaker
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01:33:11
Speaker
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01:33:30
Speaker
um yes It truly is. I'm your host, Stephen Foxworthy. You can find me on Blue Sky and Letterboxd at Chewy Walrus. Brett is not on social media. He's not here. Don't find him.
01:33:41
Speaker
Tucker, where can we find you, though, should we be so inclined? Well, um i i but I'm producing this new podcast, Stephen. don't you've heard about it. it's Tell me about it. it's ah it's very It's very narrowly focused on one subject.
01:33:59
Speaker
um It's called Wells University, and it's hosted by my good friend Stephen Foxworthy. That loser? Yeah, that idiot. and and ah And friend of the podcast, Hope, who just got married and I don't remember what her new last name is.
01:34:16
Speaker
Stow. There you go. Yes. And it's good. The second. anthony witner The second episode will be dropping two days before this episode drops.
01:34:27
Speaker
We did put the first episode for free on Patreon. So if you go to our Patreon to listen to our main feed episodes to be part of the conversation, it's there for you to listen to if you want to you know give it a try.
01:34:43
Speaker
And episode two is focused on the ah the history of the Wells family prior to the birth of Orson. So if you just really want to know that guy's background, that's the episode for you.
01:34:54
Speaker
I'm sure it's very interesting. I haven't edited it yet, but I have about two days to do that. You do. I'm going to do that so i might do that. I might do that tonight out okay <unk> I won't tell. yeah Don't tell anybody that that's what I do at work is edit podcasts.
01:35:11
Speaker
Just between you and Devon and no one else. Yes, ah but you can still find me on Instagram and on YouTube at Ice909 that's I-C-E N-I-N-E the number zero and the number nine.
01:35:30
Speaker
Also, Tuck Mugs still exists and And that's pretty cool. Yeah. It's pretty cool that it still exists. Tuck underscore mugs on Instagram.
01:35:43
Speaker
And that's that's it, you guys. That's it. That's all you got? That's all of it, yeah. Following Tuck mugs now. There you go. Dude, yeah. That is Tucker's labor of love.
01:35:57
Speaker
It truly is. I'm thinking of bringing it back to Instagram, actually, because I've done some soul searching and i might be able to ah I might be able to hand wave like how much I'm actually part of that machine.
01:36:13
Speaker
yeah There you go. so And that is our episode on spy. So I am, this has been the disenfranchised podcast ah for my cohost Tucker, the absent Brett Wright and the very special guest, Mr. Devon Taylor until next time.
01:36:29
Speaker
ah You know what you guys ah you're such a loud kisser. You're such a lot kissers. It's gross. It's unappealing. um You, you look like some old toothless woman sucking jelly out of a donut and no, thank you.
01:36:47
Speaker
Thank you.