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242 - Freaky (2020)
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“Don’t underestimate a straight white man’s propensity for violence…”
This week, after the release of Freakier Friday in theaters, we’re talking about this body swap slasher and, with it, the work of Christopher Landon, the fun of a well-executed genre mashup, this incredibly talented cast, and how nice it is to be reminded about how funny Vince Vaughn can be!
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Introduction to Disenfranchise Podcast
00:00:09
Speaker
Hello, hello, and...
00:00:22
Speaker
hello hello and Welcome to the Disenfranchise Podcast, that podcast all about those franchises of one, those films that fancy themselves full-fledged franchises before falling flat on their face after the first film. I am your host, Stephen Foxworthy.
Discussing the Movie 'Freaky'
00:00:37
Speaker
Joining me, as always, ah the the man about which many a teenager whispers about in in in darkened corridors, it's Tucker. Hey, Tucker.
00:00:49
Speaker
Hello, Stephen. How we doing tonight, ma'am? Uh, pretty, pretty, pretty all right. Pretty all right. I got, I got to watch freaky. So i mean, I hadn' had an excuse to watch freaky. So that was, that's great. You need one.
00:01:05
Speaker
Well, I need it on 4k or blu-ray, but I just haven't gotten it yet because I really, I could not believe that it did not, did not own it either digitally or physically. And I had to rent that motherfucker.
00:01:20
Speaker
I, I, I caught it on freebie, Amazon Prime freebie. freevie So only only two commercial breaks, though. Only two commercial breaks, though. Not bad. Not bad.
00:01:30
Speaker
And honestly, the first one was before the movie even started. And then the second one was like half an hour in. And then so the last big stretch of the movie, had no interruptions whatsoever. so it works Yes, that's right, listener. We are discussing today 2020's Freaky, yeah ah written and directed by ah Christopher Landon, also written by Michael Kennedy, ah produced by Le Blumhouse and starring – I'm sorry. Is that Michael Landon's kid?
00:02:02
Speaker
Christopher Landon? don't know. Because I know he has a kid who who does movie stuff. That fucking is him. Yes, it is. Yes, that is Michael Landon's kid. Oh, Landon. Oh, Little House on the Prairie. I would start crying just thinking about that show. Highway Heaven?
00:02:20
Speaker
Yeah, Highway to Heaven's okay, but i you I cannot get through one episode of Little House on the Prairie, even if it's one of the later ones, without crying at least once.
00:02:32
Speaker
Mr. Edwards and Paul. I was never a little house kid. Oh, that's too bad for you. It was a time and a place thing. I don't know how they're going to remake it because it's one of those shows that like... Are going to? Yeah. I hate that.
00:02:44
Speaker
HBO Max is doing it, I think. Or no, Netflix. Netflix is doing it. But no, I don't i don't care. They can do whatever they want. it's just I don't... There are some things that even though they aren't of that time, because like Little House on the Prairie is like frontier times, but the fact that it came out in the late 70s, early 80s, there's something about the way they shot ah dramas and stuff on TV like that that just you can't you can't recreate that.
00:03:09
Speaker
It's not they don't make them like that anymore. They can't make them like that anymore. Well, my my mom was way into it, so we caught it on reruns.
Vince Vaughn's Performance
00:03:19
Speaker
tracks um anyway star and so written by christopher landon michael kennedy and starring vincent vince vaughn catherine newton katie thinnerin celeste o'connor misha osherovich sorry misha uh cameron himself the great alan ruck what a cast what a picture i love this movie so i'm just gonna go ahead and bury the lead here we can wrap up after i'm done saying this if you'd like i love this movie so much
00:03:49
Speaker
No, don't don't really wrap up after I this. No, no, we're done. We're done. no i love this movie so much. Every time I watch it, i not only am i a huge fan of Vince Vaughn when he's not playing Vince Vaughn. Sometimes I like him when he's playing Vince Vaughn, too.
00:04:04
Speaker
But I especially like Vince Vaughn when he's not playing Vince Vaughn because man's got some range. Man can do some shit. not that Not that you would really know it from like some of the stuff he's been doing of in recent years, well this movie notwithstanding.
00:04:19
Speaker
He doesn't need to because his his regular personality, his swingers-made personality, is that's kind of Vince Vaughn.
00:04:30
Speaker
right And it works and it's entertaining. That's why I say I don't dislike it when he plays himself. Usually it come it works out pretty well depending on the character and the script. Sure. But I especially like it when he gets to show his range in things like this. And ah for and another example would be the second season of True Detective.
00:04:47
Speaker
A season you and I both stumped for. That's the some of the finest work he's ever done is that season. Between him and col mere and Colin Farrell. yeah Just desperate, desperate, awful men.
00:05:00
Speaker
And they're so good at it. The worst thing I can say about True Detective Season 2 is that it had to follow True Detective Season 1. And that, I think, is what really dinged it for a lot of people. Because otherwise, that shit's really strong.
00:05:14
Speaker
Also, I'd argue that they wasted John Carter. There wasn't enough John Carter. Taylor Sheridan. Yeah. Yeah. And honestly, Rachel McAdams a little bit, too. I think she was in there in there just enough. We could used a little bit more of her, but I really think that John Carter was... I'm now i'm just going to refer to him as John Carter from now on.
00:05:33
Speaker
um I think that he was very, very underused. Taylor Kitsch. Taylor Kitsch, that's what it is. I knew it was Taylor something. Taylor Sheridan is Cyclops in the later X-Men movie.
00:05:45
Speaker
Everyone's in a fucking X-Men movie. Shit. um Everybody's in an X-Men movie. So... yeah So Freaky opens on November 2020. We're not wrapping up.
00:05:58
Speaker
We're doing the numbers. I'm not doing the numbers. Get out of here, Steven. Punch you square in the wiener. um So what is your... i was No, but I'm sorry. Go ahead. No, keep going.
00:06:10
Speaker
I was just saying that um I was bringing up that not only is Vince Vaughn fantastic in this, and I think all the performances are fantastic, but for a movie like this to work...
00:06:22
Speaker
the two leads have to be convincing as each other. And I think that these two leads are every bit as convincing as the objectively greatest body swap performance in face-off with John Travolta and Nick Cage.
00:06:40
Speaker
Every bit as good as that. Yeah. And that's, I think that's the... That's the peak. It doesn't get better than that. That's where it is. Cause like, wow, john both John Travolta and Nicholas Cage did a really good job of like, just like doing an impression of one another. And you know, they just sat there in a room, just like saying stuff to each other. And like,
00:07:01
Speaker
Changing. And I have to believe that and sometimes in movies like this, no matter how good the actor is, that that sometimes you have to have the actor that is originally inhabiting the role maybe go through the scene with them so that the other person kind of knows sort of feel like where the path.
00:07:17
Speaker
I feel like that's kind of the the standard. Like, how would you read this? How would you play this? Would you mind playing this for me? And then like give me notes on what I'm doing. Yeah. um although i don't i feel like vince vaughn would not have done that for um i mean katherine newton may have done the ask vince vaughn that i don't think vince vaughn is asking katherine newton to do that um but he still manages to convincingly play a teenage girl and it is it it reminds me of what i loved about vince vaughn back in his heyday back in those early days back in his norman base days
00:07:51
Speaker
I still haven't seen, I'm going to watch it ah coming up because we're covering, so getting ready to cover our Psycho here in a few months on Pod and the Pendulum. So I will watch through all the Psycho movies. I will watch the Psycho sequels. I will do my fucking penance for saying that they sucked on that one episode.
00:08:07
Speaker
You saw him in The Lost World though, because he was the photographer, the boyfriend. Right. Yeah. and he's very not on on that he's just very generic in that he's just was gonna say he's nothing in that like that's just dude i i forgot he was in that until you just brought it up and then was like oh yeah i guess he is isn't he yeah dude but yeah like i so i mean do you have any have you seen any other christopher landon films or is this your first exposure to to to christopher landon and now i knew that That he was Michael Landon's son, and I've always been a fan of that, obviously. Obviously. Some of his other films, 2010's Burning Palms, ah Paranormal Activity, colon, The Marked Ones, ah Scout's Guide to the apo the Zombie Apocalypse, ah the ones that you might have seen, Happy Death Day and Happy Death Day to You.
00:08:59
Speaker
Mm-hmm. I love both of those films. And then he's good at the concept shit. he is He's good at genre mashups. Like, cause that's what happy death day is. That's what freaky is.
00:09:09
Speaker
um Like he's good at taking two things and putting them together to make a ah third weird, fun thing. um but He did the Netflix film We Have a Ghost with Adam Scott I think is in that one. He did the only Paranormal Activity movie I like. The one in the projects.
00:09:27
Speaker
Oh, there you go. The Latino people in the projects. That one's the marked ones. That's the one I like. I like that one a lot.
Landon's Other Works and 'Lisa Frankenstein'
00:09:33
Speaker
It's weird. Oh, and sorry. We Have a Ghost is not Adam adam Scott. it's They look very similar, very similar types. David Harbour is who I was thinking. Oh, yes.
00:09:44
Speaker
So, yeah. yeah know Very, very similar presence. Should I see that? And then earlier this year, he did the movie Drop. Did you see Drop? I don't even know what that is. It's a, it's a, it's um a movie about a woman who goes on a date and she keeps getting and like one of those, like rotating at the top of the building restaurants.
00:10:05
Speaker
And she keeps getting airdrops from someone who is threatening to um murder her son. If she doesn't like, yeah ah like follow these instructions to the letter.
00:10:16
Speaker
It's a, it's, it, it, It's not as strong a movie as I'd hoped, like based on the the premise and the and of course the Christopher Landon connection. um Well, he didn't have a hand in writing it at all. it looks like all of his other films he at least co-wrote.
00:10:31
Speaker
But this one, Drop, he didn't. It doesn't even have a writing credit at all. and not even co-writing credit. Right. Which I think initially struck me as odd. Yeah. Cause he's usually, i mean, you know, he's, he's a, he's a writer director. he tends to write his own stuff or ah direct his own stuff. So, ah but I've seen the happy death day movies. I've seen freaky and I've seen drop.
00:10:50
Speaker
Those are the only of his films that I've seen. ah But with, you know, Drop, I thought was fine, but the rest of them I've really enjoyed. I've really enjoyed. And, you know, there's something very similar between this and the Happy Death Day films.
00:11:04
Speaker
um You know, being able to take a slasher and combine it with what is generally a more comedic genre and making something... that really has a foot in both worlds, I think is really, really fun and takes, I think a ah good degree of skill to pull off. off So, um, yeah, I'm a, I'm, I would say i'm a Christopher Lane. I will go back and at some point watch the rest of his oeuvre for sure.
00:11:29
Speaker
Scout's Guide is, um, is really good, but pretty forgettable. Like it's a really good time, but it's not one that sticks with you. Like most of the rest of his work. Sure.
00:11:40
Speaker
I almost fucked up because um I almost said, but wait, he didn't write Freaky. Diablo Cody did, but no, Diablo Cody didn't. And I'm going to tell you why I thought that, Steven.
00:11:53
Speaker
It's because I couldn't help myself. After I watched Freaky, I was like, you know what else I should watch?
00:12:02
Speaker
I should watch straight up Lisa Frankenstein. Oh, another Catherine Newton joint. Yes. ah She's so good at both of those movies. I love Lisa Frankenstein.
00:12:12
Speaker
I enjoyed Lisa Frankenstein. I thought that was pretty fun. And it's got kind of a Christopher Landon kind of feel to it. It's a good double feature. It's Frankenstein movie with... ah A Frankenstein movie with like ah you know a teen drama.
00:12:28
Speaker
It reminds me a lot of Heathers. Lisa Frankenstein reminds me so much of Heathers. That makes sense. That would be a good double feature too, but this happened to be a triple feature because after I watched after i watched Lisa Frankenstein, I was like, well, you know, could watch my boyfriend's back.
00:12:45
Speaker
Because it's a very similar plot. ah sleep at right i was going to say. So you just pretty much had a through line there. i could a make too i would have been like, well I should watch Parents next because Bob Balaban.
00:12:58
Speaker
You're like, Catherine Newton in a kind of a horror comedy, smart talking horror comedy. Okay, then we go, oh you know, bob boyfriend resurrected from the dead. Okay, Bob Balaban. From there, i don't know where you would have gone next. which Like, Serial Mom?
00:13:14
Speaker
and Well, i maybe because they're both kind of throwbacks to like, even though they don't take place in the 50s, like the the style of the film and the humor and the way it's presented is very much a throwback the Very much past the 50s. With Boyfriends Back and, yeah.
00:13:30
Speaker
And I thought that parents um kind of um foretold that being set in the 50s, you know. He was kind of kind of into that at that time, I guess. Yeah.
00:13:41
Speaker
Well, I mean, it was the nineties. There was a lot of boomer nostalgia going on around that time. e i was waiting for the sixties when I was a teenager. Yeah. um Well, I mean, we had it all the nineties now, exactly. All the Nick at night programming was shit from the fifties and sixties from when our parents were kids.
00:13:57
Speaker
And that's the shit I grew up watching in prime time when, you know, all the sinful shows were on, we'd watch, you know, the old classics on Nick at night. So I love Lucy. For like hours.
00:14:08
Speaker
I dream of genie. The one I couldn't watch was Bewitched. Care to guess why, Tucker? But it's a ah genie. like You could watch the genie, but couldn't watch the witch? Correct. Why?
00:14:19
Speaker
Because genies aren't witchcraft, Tucker. And witches Yeah, but... But, okay, Wiccans cover your ears. But witches aren't real, Stephen. And neither are Genies. Jen, cover your ears.
00:14:30
Speaker
Neither are Genies. Okay, you can both uncover your ears. Yeah, none of that shit exists. The Ifreits are coming after you because you didn't tell them to plug their ears. Well, hey, I'll tell you what. if Nope, I'm going to stop right there. I'm not going to offend an entire group of people. I'm just saying put a spell on me. Go ahead.
00:14:47
Speaker
Fucking let's go. Come on. Prove it. Tucker does not speak to the entirety of the Disenfranchised podcast. I love you, Wiccans and witches, but prove it. Love you, but prove it.
00:14:57
Speaker
Have you ever been to Salem, Massachusetts? Yes, I have. My friend Taryn and I went there. You go to the Salem Witch Museum? I didn't have time. That was a good time. and ro I wanted to go to the Satanist Museum as well. We were pretty interested in that, but we didn't have time.
00:15:12
Speaker
I've been to the Witch Museum twice. It's a good time. Nice. Yeah. Every time I go to Salem, I go to the Witch Museum. And then Hubie Halloween has a big old scene set in the Witch Museum. The Adam Sandler people like in that movie.
00:15:26
Speaker
i was going to say, speaking of actors like Vince Vaughn, who kind of tend to fall back on playing the same kind of role they've been playing for years. ah Adam Sandler ah in in most of his stuff.
00:15:39
Speaker
Happy Madness. Did you see that trailer for that? Out now. Do you see that trailer for that new movie he's going to be in with George Clooney? Mm hmm. That looks really good.
00:15:51
Speaker
Really, really. What the fuck is it? It's like called. It's a name. It's the guy's name is the title of the movie. And it. See, if you draw your words out, you there's no space that you have to cover up.
00:16:05
Speaker
And, you know, the movie I'm thinking of, the trailer I saw today, j Kelly, is what it was called. Mm-hmm.
00:16:16
Speaker
It's going to be on Netflix. It's directed by Noah Baumbach. Oh, Baumbach loves using Adam Sandler. He was in the Meyerowitz stories with him as well. written Written by Baumbach and Emily Mortimer.
00:16:27
Speaker
I had no idea she was a writer. Oh, interesting. i knew that her bones were very brittle from 30 Rock. I knew Greta's off doing her own thing now, so she doesn't have time to co-write with Noah anymore.
00:16:39
Speaker
Well. You got the mousiest gal in Hollywood to help you out. Might as well. Not an insult, by the way. i own two Adam Sandler movies. Tucker, care to guess which two they are?
Stephen's Favorite Adam Sandler Movies
00:16:50
Speaker
Punch Drunk Love and Uncut Gems.
00:16:55
Speaker
Got it in Bravo, sir. Yeah, dude. Love those movies. And I think Sandler is fucking great in both of them. Airheads. Airheads is the only Adam Sandler movie I own.
00:17:07
Speaker
that again And again, very my my two Adam Sandler films are very on brand for me. Yours is very on brand for you. Steve Buscemi is great in that too. Love Brendan Fraser in that. Everybody's good in that. Chris Farley in that is phenomenal. I love like i love Chris Farley in that one.
00:17:24
Speaker
like He is so fun in that one. I really dig him.
Title and Vince Vaughn's Role in 'Freaky'
00:17:27
Speaker
Anyway, we're here to talk about Freaky. Freaky. yeah Originally titled Freaky Friday 13th. Oh, and hey, that makes sense because those title cards at the beginning, I did appreciate that.
00:17:40
Speaker
Yes. quite appreciate that. Very much so. like and i really Which, again, it's ah it's a mashup of Freaky Friday and Friday the 13th. Like, it's yeah two great tastes that apparently taste great together. Who would have thought?
00:17:52
Speaker
what I mean, me. I think you can match almost anything with horror. That's why... um The Pride and Prejudice and Zombies, which I haven't seen.
00:18:03
Speaker
That's why that probably works. I did enjoy. This is not the same, but like Crime and Punishment in Suburbia. Did you see that one? It's Crime and Punishment, but it's in like late 90s Suburbia. It's got Angel's son in it.
00:18:18
Speaker
Kid from Masterminds.
00:18:21
Speaker
Angel from Angel. you know, it has a kid. and ah Vincent Kartheiser. Yes, there you go. That guy. No, he was not Masterminds. Mad Men. No, he was in a movie called Masterminds.
00:18:32
Speaker
It was Die Hard with a kid. Patrick Stewart was the principal. He was a bad guy. Spoiler. thought you were talking about the show Mastermind. Sorry. No, Angel's son was the John McClane of the Die Hard in a school.
00:18:46
Speaker
Okay. Is that what we can cover? ah Yeah, we should because I really liked it when I was a kid and I doubt it holds up. So I can't wait for it to ruin my day.
00:18:58
Speaker
um Yes, originally titled Freaky Friday the 13th. And i I got to say, like, i I really enjoyed Happy Death Day, like the whole time loop with a slasher movie I thought was really fun and creative and engaging.
00:19:14
Speaker
The Freaky Friday body swap with a slasher, also really fucking fun. um And you get someone like Vince Vaughn who... Who is a giant.
00:19:27
Speaker
Physically a giant. Sometimes you don't, when you're watching him, they don't always film him to let you know that he's a giant. But um Vince Vaughn is huge. He's a very large man.
00:19:40
Speaker
He's a hulking beast of a man. He's a beast of man. I kind of want to go through his like run up before this because honestly, o like it's not great. After I would say like beak the aforementioned Be Cool, or did we mention Be Cool when we were recording or was that a pre-recording rant that we were on? don't remember. No, the wrestling was pre-recorded.
00:20:02
Speaker
Pre-record. So yeah, we talked about that before recording, but we've met, we've been talking about be cool, ah but he's in be cool in 2005. He does Mr. And Mrs. Smith and wedding crashers in 2000. Vince Vaughn was in be cool. Who was he in be cool?
00:20:14
Speaker
Raji apparently. Oh yeah. He was the, he, he was, and he had the track suit and he was a, a gangster. You would say in modern terms, he had a, um what the kids call a ah black scent, I believe. Yeah.
00:20:30
Speaker
In that movie? You remember him, Be Cool. He was... I'm not going to do an impression, but he had the gold teeth. I've been trying to block it out, but yeah. Roger. And I had successfully done it until I brought that up. Next year, he's in probably his last big movie, ah The Breakup with Jennifer Aniston.
00:20:49
Speaker
He has a small role in Into the Wild, but then in 2007, he's in a little movie called Fred Claus. People love that movie, right? I think by all accounts, let me just check my notes. Everyone said it was ah poop.
00:21:03
Speaker
um And then the year after that, he does four Christmases. So just two terrible Christmas movies in a row. ah Couples Retreat in 2009, which generally speaking, not great. ah the dilemma with kevin hart in 2011 the watch in 2012 uh which had the misfortune of coming out like right after the george floyd shit happened so like everyone avoided that one like the plague it was supposed to be called neighborhood watch who and then the george floyd shit happened and everyone's like um wait um never mind um it did what year did that come out 2012 george floyd didn't happen till 2020 dingus
00:21:43
Speaker
not, um ah no, Trayvon Martin is who I'm thinking. There you go similar Similar things happening, you know, terrible things happening to black men in this country. Hard to keep them all straight, you know?
00:21:54
Speaker
Yeah. um I thought the watch was okay. I thought it was fine. I thought that... It's kind of like, I like all these people individually. I don't know how I feel about all of them together. They're good together. It's just the script is just kind of meh. It's well directed. it's Everybody's funny in it. They have great chemistry. but yeah And look you said his name right this time. Good job, Steven.
00:22:18
Speaker
No, I'm serious. I corrected you a whole bunch of times and then you learn. That's the same thing I do with my kid. You know you just i correct her enough times, she'll learn. I just saw his new movie last week. and oh oh did you like it?
00:22:29
Speaker
It's really fucking funny. Am I going to like it? I think I'm going to like it. You're going to have a fucking blast, sir. You're going to love it. 2013, he does the internship. He has ah a small, uncredited reprisal of a role in Anchorman 2 colon The Legend Continues.
00:22:44
Speaker
yeah He does do, in 2015, it's True Detective Season 2, which we both agree he's good in. not Everybody else apparently hates that season and thinks it sucks ass. How dare they? um He does Hacksaw Ridge in 2016.
00:22:58
Speaker
And then he gets into his Eastwood movie from like the seventy s No, that's a Mel Gibson movie from 2016. What am I thinking of? Anyway, go ahead. No, I know what you're talking about, but I'm... What's the Clint Eastwood movie? Then he he enters his S. Greg Soller period, where he's in Brawl and Cell Block 99, dragged across concrete.
00:23:20
Speaker
um And like at after this point, he's just kind of on... he's he's run a very fo period He's in a bunch of shit that no one is seeing. Fighting with my family, Seaburg. Oh, I want to see that though. I think that's going to be really good. I've seen the trailer to that and it's got ah what's her nuts in it that I think is like just the best ever. Kristen Stewart.
00:23:42
Speaker
No. um The gal that's Scarlet, scarlet ah the Black Widow's sister. Florence Pugh. Yes, she's great. She's the best at everything. And I hope she's just at everything from now on. Florence Pugh is in Seaburg. I'm looking at the cast list and I'm not. No, oh fighting with my family, dingus.
00:23:59
Speaker
Oh, don't. OK. I know that movie I mentioned was Seaburg, but OK. Well, there is a bit of a delay, I've noticed. So we seem to be working through it pretty well, though.
00:24:11
Speaker
All right. Yeah, I do love I do love Florence Pugh, though. She is the best. Yeah. Arkansas, ah the binge. Really fun person to hang around with. Yes. ah Yeah, and then leading up to this in 2020, he's got Arkansas. He's got something called The Binge.
00:24:28
Speaker
And then this. And then this doesn't really revive his career
Impact of Pandemic on 'Freaky'
00:24:33
Speaker
any at all. Like I think like everyone is saying good stuff about the the the the Nonas, the movie he's in, the Netflix movie he's in he did that came out earlier this year, The Nonas, about ah a bunch of Italian grandmothers who start a restaurant. And he's like the person that puts it together.
00:24:49
Speaker
Nice. Lorraine Bracco, Talia Shire. oh um Adam Ferrara is in there. It looks like Joe Manganiella, Drea DiMatteo, Susan Sarandon.
00:25:03
Speaker
I'm already signed up. You had me with Talia Shire. We don't have to go any further. I'll watch it.
00:25:10
Speaker
But it's on Netflix, too. So, you know, knock yourself out. But apparently everyone I've talked to that's seen it says it's really nice and sweet and a good movie. So um but yeah, he's like, this does not be. And I think it's because it comes out in the deepest depths of the pandemic that this doesn't really do much for him. I think if more people had seen this movie, if this movie had done a little better and gotten in front of more faces, it probably would have been.
00:25:37
Speaker
something that could have like helped him springboard back into, into another phase of a comedy career or if not that, then maybe like a horror career. Yeah. I don't, i mean, he's, he's been working for a long time though. I mean, it's not really like he needs a ah revitalization so much as, I mean, as long as he's putting in good performances and movies I like to see, I don't, he doesn't have to be like in, in popular movies making a billion dollars, you know?
00:26:10
Speaker
I like Vince Vaughn for Vince Vaughn is what I'm saying. He doesn't have to be super famous. so I just... But that's just what I'm saying is, like, the stuff he's in hasn't really given him any excuse to stretch those muscles, to flex those muscles any at all.
00:26:24
Speaker
Like, and I think this movie is the kind of the lone exception to that where he does get to... remind us of the fact that he was a really funny actor once and was a bankable comedy star as i mean yeah was it 15 years ago as of the release of this movie yes but he was an incredibly bankable comedy star um and it's nice to be reminded that he is really fucking funny i would say that in this film he is really funny and he does give a good comedic performance but um
00:26:56
Speaker
he can add the dramatic weight when he needs to. And that's like, even whether he's being funny or dramatic in this film, I believe both of them. Correct. Like my, my favorite scene is when he's chasing his friends because they don't know that it's her.
00:27:13
Speaker
And when he's rattling off all that stuff and they do their hand, secret handshake and stuff, Ah, ooh. It's so good. It's, oh it sweeps you up.
00:27:23
Speaker
And you're just like, oh, I'll sit here on this cloud and just be really happy and watch this movie. Absolutely. No, it's, he's, he manages to find the balance between the comedy and the the horror in equal measure. And it's it's a very... And I would say the same for Catherine Newton in this as well. And I feel like the two of them are able to stand toe-to-toe pretty well.
00:27:50
Speaker
um Because she also, like, when she's possessed of the um of the butcher, like, the way that she just kind of, like, is kind of wordlessly taking everything in.
00:28:03
Speaker
The scene where she's, like, her mom's talking to her and she's just, like, casually flexing her fingers, like, shortly after the the initial switch is just really freaky. I really love I really love the nuance of what she does, because as soon as he wakes up in her body, like he's figuring it out.
00:28:25
Speaker
He doesn't like you were saying, you know, he doesn't say very much at first. He doesn't really say a lot. until he figures out his character until he figures out like how this girl's world works and how people expect him to react and then he's just talking all the time but at first I love how it develops that he's figuring it out and you can tell He's not saying anything.
00:28:48
Speaker
He's barely saying anything. And when he does say something, he's gauging, very obviously gauging people's reactions so that he knows how to portray this person. And I think that is just a touch of brilliance in that performance.
00:29:00
Speaker
Agreed. ah and And you see, and then by the same token, on the when the shoe's on the other foot, when you're looking at Vince Vaughn as the teenager, it's that kind of, he plays the bewilderment and just the, the the the like,
00:29:15
Speaker
the butcher kind of falls into it very easily, Millie obviously like, has a much harder time adjusting than the butcher seems to do. And, you know, like this, the and, and the discover, like, what if a teenage girl is suddenly inhabiting ah the body of a grown man and and not even like, ah like a, like an attractive by, by their standards, grown man, but like a serial killer who is like very unhygienic and like the scene with her in the bathroom where she's just like,
00:29:47
Speaker
like going to the bathroom and and her friend's- In all of her new genitalia. Right. And she's just like flapping it around. and Like all the things you would imagine someone who has just discovered a penis would probably do.
00:30:00
Speaker
it's It's insanely funny and very, very, very well realized. It's part of the writing of this that I find really funny is that you when you- Like, okay, what if we're putting a teenage girl in a grown man's body? What is her what are her reactions going to be?
00:30:16
Speaker
Like, oh, i'm yeah like when she knocks the guy down, oh, I'm super strong. Or like, oh my God, this I've been peeing for like what five minutes. This guy's bladder must be huge. Like all the shit like that where you're just like, this is insanely well realized. And they're just like one-off jokes.
00:30:31
Speaker
But again, I find them just very perfectly encapsulating of what this movie is and what it does. Yeah. like Those are the things i think this does really, really, really well.
00:30:43
Speaker
i think it does a lot of things well. I think the dialogue is is really well written. I think the pacing is good in this. That's the one thing that I think could have killed this would be if it if the pacing were off. But I think it's it gets in and out.
00:30:56
Speaker
like It never gets boring. It never spins its wheels. You're always having a good time with it. And everything moves the the story forward. Yeah.
00:31:07
Speaker
And it's not like dragging it any bit. Like it it kind of, it goes at a clip. Like you're like the body swap happens, I would say within the first 20 minutes of the movie, 10, 20 minutes, like somewhere in there.
00:31:18
Speaker
Like, so you get enough time to establish who our main characters are, what they're like, the, the opening scene where the butcher attacks that first group of students in the house. open Yeah. Cold open is such a like perfect slasher movie.
00:31:31
Speaker
It's Friday the It is. It's like three different Friday the 13th movies start out exactly the same way. Including the remake. And then you get Millie's cold open, which is like the, you know, life and times of a teenage loser kind of shtick.
00:31:46
Speaker
And then you get, they they come together and at the end of that Thursday with, you know, her waiting for her sister um in her mascot costume, getting hunted down by the butcher. Like it's just really, really well done.
00:32:02
Speaker
and then you get the freaky Friday the 13th and it just, perfect. Perfect. I think a lot of ah it it owes a little bit to Scream as well. There were a few moments where I definitely felt like it was being inspired by Scream. ah One that jumps out at me is is ah just like Casey Becker in the original Scream, who tells the killer that her boyfriend's going to be there any minute.
00:32:29
Speaker
And he's big, and he plays football, he's going to kick the shit out of you. And when homegirl this movie is like, yo, my sister's on her way and she's a cop.
00:32:40
Speaker
Yeah. Like I definitely feel like, okay, all right. There's some callbacks here a little bit intentional or not. Made me think of that. The meta horror comedy thing, like scream, change the game for those kinds of films. So that I think both happy death day and freaky are both very indebted to scream in a lot of ways. Yeah.
00:33:01
Speaker
Well, I think walk so those movies can run. I think happy death day the most, because the way that they figure out in those movies, the way that they deal with the time loop is figuring out how it works in movies. They're like, well, what what how's it work in the movies? Is that how it's working now? of course, until the second one when they figure out.
00:33:19
Speaker
The second one turns into a sci-fi movie, which I think is fantastic because it's not even the second one's not even a horror film. No, it's It's just not i find a sci-fi movie. We're still doing a mashup. We're still doing a time loop mashup, but this time it was a sci-fi movie instead of a horror movie.
00:33:33
Speaker
What's the third one? I wonder what the genre was going to be for the third one. the the Apparently, it's called... it's it's in It's upcoming, according to IMDb. It's called Happy Death Day to Us.
00:33:45
Speaker
So no i'm i'm hopeful i'm I'm hoping rom-com is what I'm hoping. Yeah, I would hope so too, but it's not going to happen. um Jason Blumhouse? Is that who makes those movies? Jason Blum.
00:33:58
Speaker
ah but He said... we've Gotcha. He said that he... They've asked him about it. They haven't really talked about it in a while, but there when... There was kind of and not really a demand, but like ah people are like, is there going to be another happy death day?
00:34:12
Speaker
um I think the last thing that he said was that he really wanted to do it and everybody wanted to do it and they had a script. But for them to just make it by themselves, it would be a very bad business decision just based on the numbers on the second one.
00:34:33
Speaker
Sure. Because the second one didn't do very well and they they would just be throwing money away, basically. And I get that. I mean, like I said, they all want to do it. Like Jason Blum is like, it really sucks that we can't do it because I want to finish that story. But fuck, like I can't just throw money in the trash, set it on fire, you know?
00:34:52
Speaker
Well, and I mean, it yeah, and i think it's it would it I think if Christopher Landon wanted to crowdfund it, he could probably get the funding to make it. And so, you know, you get the kind of the fans as the producer kind of thing that we did with like the Veronica Mars movie or Mystery Science Theater 3000.
00:35:10
Speaker
Jay and Silent Bob reboot. Right. All of like there there are crowdfunded movies that, you know, there's there's a model for that. I just don't know if that's the route Blum and Landon want to go with it. And I know there at one point there was talk of ah of a crossover between, which is why we're covering this, between Freaky and Happy Death Day, which I think would be fucking rad as hell. Like if if Millie crosses paths with Tree, like I think that would be awesome.
00:35:35
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, they're both Christopher Landon films. And for all we know, they're set in the same world, the same universe. So like it. Well. and it would It would be, i' i'd I'd love to see it.
00:35:47
Speaker
ah You know I love shared universe movies. so There's nothing to suggest that they don't that they take place in the same universe. There's also nothing to disprove that either.
00:35:59
Speaker
So, it's open at this point.
Potential Crossovers and Fiona Dourif's Performance
00:36:02
Speaker
It's kind of one of those things where like, but seeing as how the tones are so similar. Like, you if if you told me these two things take place in the same universe, I'd 100% believe you.
00:36:14
Speaker
There's no reason for me not to. They both deal with um but magic or some sort of supernatural force. You know, i mean, it's it's science in Happy Death Day, but it's pretty fucking magical science. It's like out there, high concept science.
00:36:32
Speaker
like Same as like using magic. And this this was very child's play. I was surprised nobody had to call Dumballa and give me what Grant me the power, I bra i beg of you.
00:36:43
Speaker
ah yes sort of Where's Dumballa? Let's bring Chucky into this. Fuck it. Why not? His show is over. Come on. I would love that. I, well, you know, I, if, yeah, I don't know any, I think Brad Dourif is pretty much retired now.
00:36:59
Speaker
Like I think he's in the John Carpenter zone where he's pretty much just smoking weed and hanging out these days. So, I mean, he did the, he did the Chucky show. yeah Right. But I think that was like the last thing.
00:37:10
Speaker
What was great about that show? And I, I actually stopped watching at the beginning of the third season because I just didn't care anymore. The first two seasons were great. Then the third season just did not capture my attention. So I, I dropped out, but his daughter, what's her name?
00:37:27
Speaker
Fiona. Yes. Fiona. Very attractive young lady. He plays she plays Charles Lee Ray in flashbacks in the Chucky TV series. And i didn't when I saw that first episode where she plays him.
00:37:43
Speaker
i did not know it was her. I did not know how they got somebody that looked so much like Brad Dourif in the first Child's Play movie. And then the credits are like, oh, yeah, it's it's it's his daughter. And I'm like, no way, dude. Now, after, you know, you can tell. Right. and But before I knew, i was like, who the fuck is that? Like, that's uncanny, you know?
00:38:04
Speaker
yeah So in i looked him I looked it up on Wikipedia. On April 18, 2024, Dourif announced that he would be retiring from acting with the exception of any Chucky-related projects involving the character.
00:38:16
Speaker
So that's the only thing he can do. Because can do the voice. Exactly. He's the one who can do the voice. like All respect to Mark Hamill. Brad Dourif is that was that was a different Chucky.
00:38:27
Speaker
That's I don't consider those two. I don't think that the Child's Play remake should have been called Child's Play. It was as much of a remake of the original Child's Play as Zack Snyder's Dawn of the Dead was of the original Dawn of the Dead.
00:38:41
Speaker
Like it should not have like it deals with similar things like Dawn of the Dead zombies and they go to a mall. Yeah. Yeehaw. There's a killer toy. He does. Apparently he also was on the HBO Max series The Pit.
00:38:56
Speaker
ah He had a cameo as ah the father of Fiona Doris character from that show. So nice she's kicking ass to do. She's i doing shit. She's out there. doing She is great. I legitimately think she is great.
00:39:10
Speaker
One of my, one of the hosts of one of the podcasts, listened to the Blank Check podcast. um He said he matched with her on ah on a celebrity dating app and like blew his shot by talking about how much he loved the Chucky movies.
00:39:22
Speaker
Like he just like nerd dumped on all the Chucky movies and like scared her off. And she's so so hilarious. That's like the first time I saw her was in Cult of Chucky. Not the last Chucky movie, the but movie before that.
00:39:40
Speaker
The one when the hospital last, uh, the one before the hospital, the last one was the hospital one.
00:39:47
Speaker
That was curse. That's the one where he duplicates himself at the hospital before. That's the one where they're at the house and she's, yeah. yeah He's so fucking good in that. Yes. That was amazing in that movie.
00:39:58
Speaker
that was the first time that I saw her. And now just like, if she's in something, I will watch it because she's in it because she's got like an earnestness to how she plays characters. Like,
00:40:14
Speaker
It's like, not only do I believe it, but I feel like maybe she believes it. Like, she's so... I don't know. she Even like her whole physicality, like the like ah with True Detective Season 3, with Mahershala Ali, and what's-his-nuts from Blade? Stephen Dorff.
00:40:33
Speaker
They both are fit, but Mahershala Ali is the all-star in that one because when they put that old man makeup on him, he just... his entire physicality changes like a completely different version of that character. Everything is different. And i just, I really like it when I can believe somebody that much to where I came here to see a performance from this actor, but then I get so lost in their performance. I'm not even thinking about how it's that actor anymore.
00:41:00
Speaker
Right? No, hundred percent. I, I, and, and again, I may have misheard you. And if I did on me, but curse of Chucky is the one in the house. Cult of Chucky is the one in the hospital. Yes, you are correct.
00:41:12
Speaker
I just looked that up. Because I got confused. so yeah I was confused about the names, but I knew that the hospital one was the last one. and the house You said cult, and I'm like, cult's the one in the hospital. And you're like, no, the one in the house. i'm like That's where we got our wires crossed.
00:41:27
Speaker
Yeah, okay. So I just, again, just stopping some comments later. Curse is the one in the house that rips and is probably the best child's play movie since Bride, honestly.
00:41:38
Speaker
um And then um Cult is the last one, which a friend of the show, Devon Taylor, really stumps for, if I recall correctly. I like that one, too. It's one of one of it's up there probably in the top five.
00:41:52
Speaker
um i like all those movies, though. i know I don't I don't I don't dislike three and I don't dislike seed. Those are the ones just like three.
00:42:04
Speaker
I don't I need to I would need to pull up my rankings and I'm not going to do that right now. um But i don't I know I don't care for three. I know two is my second favorite after Bride. I think that Seed kind of took what Bride of Chucky did perfectly and maybe cranked it up a little too high.
00:42:23
Speaker
a little too high. But I still really it. Seed have John Waters in it, and I love it for that. And I love the kid too, because it's a reference to Ed Wood, dude. Glenn and Glenda. Yes.
00:42:36
Speaker
And I love, I love them in the show because they become human in the show. Oh, well so Billy Boyd does not come back to play Glenn and Glenda.
00:42:47
Speaker
No, it's, um, I don't know what their pronouns are, but they look very feminine. um What is that person's name? I keep wanting to say that gal, but I don't think that's how they identify their... Well... I mean, this movie, of course, makes ah makes a ah a pretty funny point of the pronoun thing.
00:43:12
Speaker
We found our pronouns. I'm sorry, we found him!
00:43:17
Speaker
And then ever that starts confusing everybody when you get to the to the party scene. like it's the the The pronoun thing is actually a very... and And it's not like poking fun at it, but it's using the the notion of pronouns in, I think, a very smart and pointed way.
Humor and Reviews
00:43:33
Speaker
um And in a way that doesn't like punch down or be like pronouns. Am I right? Like these kids today and they're prone. Like it's it's actually like a very smart, well-realized, well-actualized joke um that doesn't, that's not at anybody's expense, which is huge because so many of the jokes that tend to circle around that tend to be.
00:43:54
Speaker
indeed the actor i'm thinking of is latchland watson and their pronouns are they them yes they're in um the scream tv show as i recall and y2k yes i do remember them in y2k i did see y2k no they're not in the screen watching show in a while oh who am i thinking of then i know who you're thinking of the nerdy gal i liked her a lot too i like that show ah though the third season when they rebooted it with a different cast even though i would admit latin watson was in the curia or the uh the the the sabrina show the new one yes yes with uh with karen and shipka that that's what i know um okay yes but also y2k they play the um
00:44:43
Speaker
tomboy character? Have you seen Y2K? I have. We haven't had a What Are We Watching in a while, but that's one of the 50 plus movies that I have on that list. You know who I'm talking about, though. in the movie I know exactly who you're talking about. The one who's the most excited when Fred Durst shows up.
00:44:59
Speaker
For sure. Tucker, would I tell you I have seen Y2K? am telling you. saw Y2K. I need to watch it again. probably not as enamored of it as you were.
00:45:11
Speaker
I wasn't, though. That's the thing. I recognized that it was good. It's just like, i don't know what I expected, but my only other experience with Kyle Mooney ah on the creative side of something outside of just acting or creating a character was Brigsby Bear and Saturday Morning All-Star Hits.
00:45:34
Speaker
Right. Both which we discussed last week. Y2K is a a creative side of Kyle Mooney that I've never seen before. like I'm not familiar with it. So like when I went in there, i don't know what I was expecting, but I wasn't expecting what I got.
00:45:51
Speaker
What I got was very, very good, but I need to watch it again with the correct expectations so that I can fully enjoy it. And I just haven't gotten around to it. I'm very excited to. It's on HBO Max. like i'm I'm ready. It is. That's I saw it. haven't done it yet.
00:46:06
Speaker
I might do it tomorrow, maybe. Who knows? Well, there we go. Because i did I did like it. And like I kind of left the movie like, I don't know. But then at the same time, I'm thinking about, oh, that scene was cool. And I really liked that about
Movie 'Y2K' and Alan Ruck's Roles
00:46:18
Speaker
it. and i was conflicted. Like I said, i had I just didn't really know what to expect. And what I got definitely wasn't what I expected, even though it was really fucking good.
00:46:26
Speaker
Oh, makes sense. I mean, yeah, it was it's just, yeah, it's kind of one of those. And I'm like, oh, Tucker likes this guy. I'll i'll watch his movie. And i was like, yeah, it's fine. And I like Rachel Zegler quite a bit. so Oh, and you got to watch the of them promoting it and any behind the scenes stuff. like I think everybody on that movie are just like BFF for life now.
00:46:49
Speaker
Probably. Because all the promo stuff, like they're having way more fun than anybody ever does promoting a movie. You can tell that they they have a lot of camaraderie. I love to see that. I truly do.
00:47:03
Speaker
Right on. Right on. Yeah, dude. yeah Should we talk about the rest of the cast of Freaky? Yeah, let's do Some of the supporting characters? we've I mean, let's talk Cameron. Let's talk our our special, special boy, Cameron.
00:47:18
Speaker
When Cameron was in Egypt land. Let my Cameron go. Alan Ruck in this movie. So fucking good.
00:47:30
Speaker
but Love Alan Ruck. And every time I see Alan Ruck, like, oh, great. And then as soon as I see him in this movie, I'm like, oh, he's going to die. Oh, and the facial hair just like sells that performance too. Like he's, I wouldn't have believed he was so much of a dick if he didn't have that little goatee thing going on. Like Van Dyke or whatever the fuck he had going on.
00:47:49
Speaker
He's another one that's got a lot of range. Like he was the, he was Cameron and Ferris Bueller's day off. He's the inept captain of the enterprise B and star Trek generation. generations I was about to say that. Damn it. Steven.
00:48:00
Speaker
He's the, he's the creepy, ah like he's the office creep in spin city. Like he's got like a really and significant range to him. Spin city. Yeah. and um and then And then he's like just the asshole teacher in this movie. And it's really fucking fun. Apparently um Young Guns 2, Speed, Twister. Oh, he's in Twister. He's the guy who delivers my favorite line in Twister, which is i don't know this road. This is like Bob's Road.
00:48:32
Speaker
It's my favorite line in Twister. I love it My pal Sean Whalen was in that movie. So is Philip Seymour Hoffman. Right. Hey. Hey. hey give it one of his wack I love it when they let Philip Seymour Hoffman be wacky.
00:48:44
Speaker
That was one of his last wacky performances because that's the one where he hits. He's just a silly guy. He's great at drama. I know this probably doesn't have the dramatic stakes that some of his other films do, but I really appreciate how scary of a villain he is in that Mission Impossible that he's in. He is the best Mission Impossible villain. I'm sorry.
00:49:07
Speaker
Best. Like, holy. Don't at me on that. He's the best. Like, that not the best Mission Impossible movie. No. He's the best part of that movie. I was going to say, and that's a decent script.
00:49:19
Speaker
Right. And he elevates it. Elevates it so much higher. He's so good. He's terrifying. He's terrifying in that film. That's another. movies are other. But it's just like.
00:49:31
Speaker
but it's just like you Just the way that he implies things with his facial expressions and tiny little twists and turns in his voice. That's another body swap movie in a sense because you get Ethan Hunt putting on the Philip Seymour Hoffman mask and basically Hoffman having to play Tom Cruise as Philip Seymour Hoffman. And he does it so well.
00:49:54
Speaker
He's a dude playing a guy playing another dude. I'm the dude playing the dude disguised as another dude. You're the dude that doesn't know what dude he is.
00:50:04
Speaker
Oh, Al Pacino. That's not Al Pacino. um I thought it was Al Pacino that because booty sweat and because he's gay and he doesn't know it. Right. But that's not. there He doesn't want to admit it.
00:50:17
Speaker
OK. Al Pacino. Al Pacino. Yeah. Bustin' Up Bars. Yeah, I was going to say. Booty Sweat is the energy drink and the Bustin' Up Bars are the the candy bar. I really love the trailers at the beginning of that movie. Like, that movie's really good, but you could just give me the trailers and I'd be fine.
00:50:36
Speaker
With Robert Downey Jr. and fucking Tobey Maguire. Kirk Lazarus. And MTV Movie Award Best Kiss winner, Tobey Maguire.
00:50:48
Speaker
it's been and That is, and I feel almost embarrassed to say it, because i i i there are elements of that movie that are awful and do not hold up at all, but I really love Tropic Thunder. i Tropic Thunder? No.
00:51:01
Speaker
i I think it holds up completely. All of its satire checks. I think. Yeah. Yeah. yeah That's just me. I don't I mean, i'm not a person of color.
00:51:17
Speaker
So I don't know. Queer adjacent, but still, i don't know. Fair. um I mean, the the whole the whole conversation about the developmentally disabled um actors playing developmentally disabled people to ah win Oscars, that that one, I think, crossed ah across a pretty so significant line. but yeah No, I think that it did, but I think that it made a really good point. And I think... i Look...
00:51:44
Speaker
um As someone who has a very close relationship with someone who is developmentally disabled, I will tell you this. There are a lot of things that bother me with representation as far as developmentally disabled people go. But Tropic Thunder is not one of them because they're calling Hollywood out and they're doing it in a really funny way.
00:52:07
Speaker
Because I am Sam, fuck I am Sam. They are directly calling out I am Sam. And things like Jack, which Francis Ford Coppola, love you, but don't do that. Don't ever fucking that.
00:52:17
Speaker
I have not gotten to Jack yet in my Coppola-thon watch through. i don i've I've kind of slowed to a crawl because i I'm in the 80s now and I'm getting into the 90s and I know once I get into the 90s I'm going to have to contend with Jack.
00:52:31
Speaker
You can skip it. you can Read the synopsis on IMDb and then I can tell you just that it sucks. If I'm going to watch the man's filmography, I'm going to watch the man's filmography.
00:52:42
Speaker
The worst part about it is when you watch the movie, you can tell that there was never anything but wholesome intentions, but it just does not work in the way that you want to do. It's very embarrassing.
00:53:00
Speaker
The second male lead is Bill Cosby. So, I mean...
00:53:06
Speaker
go to see the old r.i.p stop oh god malcolm jamal warner died that was so fucking sad the wrong star of the cosby show the worst part about it is he wasn't even old like you know like when ozzy osborne died like r.i.p but motherfucker was old like he did his last show from a chair like we're ready for i've been ready for it for years you know But Malcolm Jamal Warner, dude, he was like in his 50s. He drowned on vacation with his family. He was just chilling with his family, dude.
00:53:39
Speaker
Just having a nice day with his family. And all of a sudden, dead. 86. Done. All right. Seriously, that of of that stretch, that's the one that hit me probably the hardest.
00:53:52
Speaker
um The one that hit me the least hard, of course, Hulk Hogan. Yeah. Yeah, rest in piss. um another Another thing I love Alan Ruckian, and I can't believe I forgot it, Succession.
00:54:05
Speaker
You haven't watched Succession yet, have you, Tucker? No, I don't give fuck about no Succession. Oh, it's so good. And he's so good in it. He plays basically like the... the the kind of the eldest forgotten son of like a very powerful media magnate.
00:54:21
Speaker
And it's like his role, it just as ineffectual as he is, it's just so fun. Like he's so good at it. um A phenomenal actor in this movie. He's so good. He really gets to like flex in this movie in the same way that like,
00:54:36
Speaker
Vince Vaughn does. Like, he really gets to kind of show why we love Alan Ruck and how, you know, if if called upon to do so, he can play just a fucking asshole. Yeah. I agree. Did you mention Speed? That he was one of the passengers in Speed? Did you mention that already? I threw i throwed speed i threw Speed out. You throwed it You throwed it out there?
00:54:55
Speaker
Oh, God. The Indiana's coming out, Tucker. Oh, you're telling me, dude. I can't. i The other day... I was at my parents' house. I was in my dad's workshop.
00:55:07
Speaker
And I think I so involuntarily said, I'll tell you what, about 30 times. Like, unironically. And I'm just like, I would be outside of myself listening to myself say it. I'm like, what are you doing?
00:55:20
Speaker
What are you doing? I'm descended from hill people, though. so i know. Like, it's in my blood. Like, as much as I try to hide it and like to... i'd like As much as I try to talk all fancy...
00:55:33
Speaker
like it my blood ain't too fancy you know we out here washing our oil so we don't start afar you don't want to bowl it tucker my last name is foxworthy i understand that is i get it trust you might be a foxworthy i am i in fact i am a foxworthy
00:55:58
Speaker
Oh boy. um yeah that so Yeah. So do with that what you will. Rednecks in disguise. We're not really even in disguise. We're just kind of wearing it out there on our sleeves We're just trying really hard not to be.
00:56:13
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Hey, we're like Elton John, dude. yeah We're trying to, you know, get past our redneck ways. ah that's um Oh, and I would also say... at that, Hockey Cat.
00:56:23
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Ben Folds. Our redneck pastor nipping at our heels. and he's He's talking about his own past, but he calls it that because he's referencing Elton John. Sure. Yeah.
00:56:35
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Two piano men, if you will. as As it were. it may be. As it shall always be. To each as it shall always unto you... So as it is such, also as it is such unto you, is that the name of the show from the fourth season of Arrested Development?
00:56:51
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Fuck, I don't know. say It's one of my favorite jokes in that fourth season, which I do stump for. I like that fourth season. The fifth season is where it loses me completely, but that fourth season is really fun. And Alan Tudyk is a pastor who hosts a television show called, i believe it, so as it is such, so also as such is it unto you. um And yeah, it's great.
00:57:16
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um Fantastic. Yeah, no, i i love i love that this, ah and again, we've we've kind of, it it feels like we don't like this movie to the extent that we're like talking around it, but it's it's one of those things, it's hard to talk about a movie that's this good that we enjoy this much.
00:57:31
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we're not We're not talking around it, Stephen. It's every time we start to talk about this film, we like some aspect of it or a cast member so much that we kind of go on a tangent. We're on an idea or on that cast member or on the person who directed it. You know, it's that's kind of it's kind of what we do. That's that's the fun thing about our podcast. Very unique.
00:57:53
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where we just kind of goof around, you know? Right. Yeah. Two, two friends hanging out and, and talking to each other and just, you know, having a conversation. That's very unlike any podcast ever for sure.
00:58:03
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Um, yeah no, I, again, I cannot say enough good about the two lead performances in this movie. I feel like they're doing a lot of heavy lifting carrying this.
00:58:14
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I also love the actresses that play, ah the friends, uh, Celeste O'Connor and Misha Osharevich, I think are really, really fun. um Celeste O'Connor, um really... Honestly, both them. Wow, did they transition?
00:58:32
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Wow. ah Yeah. That's great. Misha Oshirovich, yeah. They, she pronouns. Yeah, she is great. That's fantastic. She plays ah she plays Josh Wright. um Yeah, she does look fantastic. um Wow, yeah.
00:58:46
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Right? And you know what? She... It's so wild because like, I mean, she plays a a gay man in Freaky and I believed that, but now I'm seeing these photos where like, I just, that just looks like a woman to me. You know what I mean? In, in like the best possible way. I don't mean that a bad way at all. I'm not, I'm not transphobic. I promise. At least not outwardly.
00:59:12
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Yeah. no i No, what I mean is like everybody everybody has xenophobic thoughts. like Sometimes it's just like the trigger thoughts, especially people like you and I who were raised in certain areas by certain people who sometimes had some bad opinions and no matter how hard and no matter how much you tell yourself, no, that's wrong, you still kind of have those thoughts sometimes. I don't i do not um abide by them. I do not give them the time of day, but I do have them.
00:59:42
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I have bigoted thoughts. I think everybody does. It's just, matter its I think it matters what you do with them. And I tell mine to fuck off. I reject mine outright. If, if, if they do come and come and knock in. Um, but no, I mean, and I think she's amazing in this film.
00:59:58
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Uh, they're doing a really good job of my, my favorite line of theirs is probably the mom. I have something I need to tell you. straight.
01:00:09
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Yeah.
01:00:12
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It's such a great line. It's a silly subversion of expectations, but it gets by because it it plays so well. It does. It plays really, really well.
01:00:24
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You don't expect it, and then you're like, oh, fuck, really? Then you're like, yeah, but that is kind of hilarious
Humorous Scenes in 'Freaky'
01:00:28
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at the same time. like Because again, they're like, oh we're roleplaying. And she's like her mom the mom's like, isn't roleplaying ah sex game?
01:00:35
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And then like the butcher, Asmily, is like, mm-hmm. Just very nonchalantly, yep. In the chair, bound and gagged. Yes. yes And again, the way that the movie like handles those situations, I think, is very deftly done. like Again, in in the pronoun conversations and things like that, they're they're telling jokes, but again, they're not at anybody's expense, which I really appreciate.
01:01:02
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um And then, of course, the whole thing culminating in the the showdown at the the carnival out at the Old Mill. yes Where they're, ah you know, they they finally are able to get the dagger and, and you know, recreate the the thing that um that started it all.
01:01:21
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Called Dambala, yeah. Shambhala, yeah. Give me the power, I beg of you. Did you say Shambhala? That's a three-dimensional thing, Stephen. No, it's Dambala.
01:01:32
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Is it Dambala? Okay. Yes, Shambhala is the... How did you light shatter the halls of Shambhala? dude Do, do, do, do. Yeah, you know Three Dog Night.
01:01:44
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i Okay. I mean, I know who Three Dog Night is. don't you know Shambhala? Fuck, Stephen. No. I know that Jeremiah was bullfrog, and as I recall, he was a good friend of mine.
01:01:54
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It's also just an old-fashioned love song playing on the radio. No big deal. Also, you're a doodly-doo-doo-doo liar. Doodly-doo-doo-doo liar.
01:02:05
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Extensive knowledge of Three Dog Night. Liar.
01:02:10
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Are due Dambala, you are correct. I told you it Dambala. I wanted the full phrase. Are due Dambala. Give me the power I beg of you. The halls of Shambala.
01:02:26
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Dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt. in Anyway, way get the the really the the great scene in every slasher movie where the slasher is apparently dead. And then you get the final showdown with that character um before it finally dispatched like the scene. And it's it's the the three.
01:02:47
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It's the mother and the two daughters. um That kind of girl power moment where they are able to overcome and you know bring down this. vicious killer is just really great and really fun to see for the first time, these three characters who have been kind of at odds with each other in various ways, like really coming together as a team and, and rediscovering who they are as a family, which I think is kind of the heart and soul of the movie, which I love. It was really, really nice.
01:03:14
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i agree. Something I really liked about this movie is I enjoyed the violence as I've gotten older. I, my opinions on violence change the older I get. Um, and I don't really know. i have some guesses as to why, but I don't really know why.
01:03:30
Speaker
um but this movie, the violence is so fun and so silly and so comic booky. And that's how I like my violence. Like, the more The more realistic and fucked up the violence is the more I'm like, i don't I'm just not really interested. Give me some silly slasher violence. And I loved like the tennis racket.
01:03:48
Speaker
Brilliant. Oh my god, so fun. Fantastic. The toilet seat, kind a brutal, but very silly. brutal. Like, you know, the the picking picking the girl up and like shoving her onto the spike on the wall. And so she's just like dangling there.
01:04:03
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And of course he did the Halloween head tilt. Yeah, yeah the the cock to the side. um Yeah, some really creative kills, which I appreciate a creative kill. Like I just was on the Diary of the Dead episode of um Pod and the Pendulum not too long ago. There's some fun ones in that one. that Probably the best kills of the franchise in that movie. That's...
01:04:25
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Greg Nicotero and Tom Sweeney. Well, that's because you've got like two generations of people who made these movies together on one film just going nuts.
01:04:40
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Diary of the Dead is good because of the effects, because of the kills. it's It's good. and the only thing good about it are the kills. I don't think it's a good movie at all. I like it because it's silly. it doesn't take itself too seriously all of the time.
01:04:57
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um When it does, I just kind of roll my eyes. But I think it's it's fun. you have to You really have to suspend your disbelief on a lot of it. There's a lot of plot holes in that movie. little too much, think.
01:05:13
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but Anyway, you want hear my thoughts on Diary, go listen to that episode Potting the Pendulum. It's probably, if it's not out by now, it will be out very soon.
01:05:22
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Oh, and Survival is dog shit. Survival bad. oh It's one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my fucking life. And that's the last Romero movie we got, which is the the bummer. Nah.
01:05:33
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it's that Look, Steven, we got Knight Riders. We got Monkey Shines. no It is the final movie Romero made. understand that. thing But it doesn' it doesn't matter. he could have made dog He did make Dog Shit for his last movie. It doesn't matter.
01:05:49
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So much good before that that we'll always have, dude. Like I said, Knight Riders. you haven't seen Knight Riders with Ed Harris... about the Renaissance fair motorcycle joust people, which doesn't that sound wild?
01:06:02
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It's pretty wild. Yeah. yeah And fucking ah Ken Forey from Dawn the Dead is in that. Peter from Dawn of the Dead is also in Knight Riders. I said, you got shit like Monkey Shines. You got Creepshow.
01:06:14
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You got the motherfucking crazies, dude. Martin is pretty fun. Martin is good after you see it once. i I hated that movie the first time I saw it up until the last 30 seconds.
01:06:26
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And then it was my favorite movie ever for a while. The end of mar is one of those where you're like, what the fuck? And then but you have to watch it again because none of it. It makes any sense or really you give a shit about until you've seen the ending.
01:06:40
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Right. The ending really does... It's one of those endings that puts the rest of the movie into perspective. Into context. The context that you... there's i don't think very many people were getting that context until the ending.
01:06:53
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It's good. John Amplis is fantastic in that. like I wish that he had done had a few more lead roles. Because he is in Day of the Dead. He's the scientist with the mustache. Oh, okay.
01:07:04
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The one that Rhodes shoots in the head there when he's trying to get... um What's this nuts to take them all the helicopter? He says, I won't do I won't fly. Yeah, I love that guy.
01:07:21
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John, his name is John. but And we don't believe in what you're doing here, Sierra. Sorry, i that's that's it. No more. Go ahead, please. Please stop. Please stop. Again, it's so good. I love it.
01:07:33
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Please stop. um For all of our sakes, please stop. Who ever going to give a shit? I said stop. You said you were done, Tucker, and I believed you. Damn me, i believed you. That's my white flag. i'm I'm holding up the white flag and waving it. i believe ah Sure, I believe you.
01:07:54
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But no, i Freaky is is a lot of fun. i really enjoy the film. Again, I think there you you get a lot of... the the The woodshop kill ah of Alan Ruck on the rotating saw.
01:08:08
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Ridiculous, but perfect. yeah um And i love I love when Catherine Newton is as the butcher is like rebuffing all the guys that are like trying to hit on her.
01:08:20
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Like your touch makes his pussy drier than sandpaper. I can't wait to kill you. Like I'm just like, holy shit. Yes, girl, go. Yes, indeed. Like just that, all that shit just cracks me up.
01:08:33
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The interplay, like, and again, there's a lot of queer subtext in here. Like when Booker and the ah Millie in the butcher are like talking about like. oh That's so sweet when they almost kiss and she's like, no, maybe we'll do that later. That's a little weird.
01:08:48
Speaker
But just the fact that he would have done it anyway. That's so sweet. That's like the sweetest thing. ah He totally would have made out with Vince Vaughn. He would have. Would Vince Vaughn have made out with him? I don't know. whisker Whiskers and all. Can you imagine that? like you're You're trying to get with this hottie, right?
01:09:04
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And you really, really like her. But at the moment, she's in the body of an older man. But you like her so much that you're like, fuck it. I'm going to make out with this old dude. Fuck it.
01:09:15
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I love this bitch. I'm going to make out with this old dude.
01:09:21
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That's sweet, new march up make out this old dude. That's the sweetest thing in the world. No, it's, it's, it's good. This movie is good. it's I love what it's doing. I'm having a lot of fun with it along the way. um Yeah, it's great. I also love when like, she's like commiserating in the, but the butcher, her as the butcher in the dressing room, like commiserating with her mom and her mom asking her out on a date and her going, Ooh, no God, no.
01:09:48
Speaker
And then having to like back up real quick to be that sweet like, maybe, maybe like a dinner. um Yeah, I thought that was sweet because the only way is to get out of it, it was a really it was a funny scene. But also I thought it was a really sweet scene because like she got to talk to her mom.
01:10:09
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in a way that you don't normally get to talk to your parents because your parents don't ask you those kinds of questions. She got to see mom as a human being, I think for the first time. It was just a really sweet moment. There's so much going on in this movie, Steven. It's so fucking good.
01:10:23
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It's good. It's a good movie. I really like it. Audience, if you have not seen this movie, please go watch it right now. And then watch Lisa Frankenstein. Then watch my boyfriend's back.
01:10:35
Speaker
And then watch parents. And gold then watch Serial Mom. There you Yes, please. All of these things. And then watch Cecil B. Demented. is this Is this a perfect movie? I will not say it's perfect, but i'm i'm'm it's fun. it's It's one that I enjoy, and it's one that I will watch again.
01:10:51
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um So, yeah, i do I do enjoy Freaky. I think it is a lot of fun. And I think, yeah, again, like, yeah I like it. I'll watch it I think it's... 100%. I think it is a good script that is phenomenally executed by everyone involved.
01:11:11
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Yeah. Like, the script is... The script is good. It's good. It's not like... It is. It's not something that's going to blow you away, but I think the fact that everybody put so much effort and love into it just elevated it so much. It's such a watchable movie, such a digestible movie. Yeah.
01:11:27
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um But like you don't normally say that's digestible movie to something that's so high concept. That's to this movie's credit. like man That's a wild thing to fucking pull off. you know Yeah, and that you are able to have someone like...
01:11:41
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you know that that Vince Vaughn is so capable of playing a 17-year-old girl that ah Catherine Newton is so capable of playing a 50-year-old serial killer. you know These things are really, really phenomenal in just the way that they are able to get them pulled off. Yeah.
01:11:58
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yeah I agree. um it's It's fun. Freaky is a fun movie. um And we highly recommend it.
'Freaky' Release and Pandemic Effect
01:12:06
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Again, it's on Freebie with Amazon Prime. Not that many um not that many ads.
01:12:11
Speaker
Or you could rent this motherfucker. Or it's available on Amazon on 4K and Blu-ray. Oh, there is a 4K of it? Is it? Well, 4K is region free. It's $25 on Amazon right now.
01:12:25
Speaker
Put that on wish list, Steven. Okay. um freaky opens uh during the deepest darkest depths of covid on november 13th 2020 um i want to drop too like the day it dropped i rented or bought or rented it or something i had to have rented it because i'd see the trailer and i was very psyched yeah it had a limited theatrical run it did open in theaters in in almost 2,500 screens across the country at number one at the box office.
01:12:59
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It grossed 3.6 million across its four day opening weekend. um It would go on to earn about 9 million domestic, another 9 million international for a grand total of 18 million worldwide.
01:13:14
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That's off of a budget of a of 6 million with another, i think 8 million put into marketing. So it worldwide grows, recoups its budget and its marketing costs.
01:13:25
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It does a little bit over, but this is by no means a success. But then what films released in 2020 were considered successes? on the side I mean, it's November 2020. Not only...
01:13:39
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are you in the height of the pandemic where we're finally, everything is completely shut down. We're trying to figure out what we're going to do on the holidays. We don't have time to fucking figure out how to watch a movie during the pandemic. You know what i mean? Yeah.
01:13:53
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hundred percent. Every movie, except for bad boys three, which was technically before the fan, before the pandemic, Sonic the Hedgehog and bad boys three were the last two big movies up before the pandemic.
01:14:07
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Steven, I didn't even see that at the theater, but I bought it day one digital. I believe Just so you know. believe it. Because it was such a good deal. it was like a three pack. It was all three films for like $35. Basically, you were paying for the you were paying a premium for the new movie and you were getting the other two for a steal.
01:14:29
Speaker
Right. Right. Yeah, because it would be be like, what, $20 to like buy or rent something like that, and so you're basically getting the other two movies for like $5 a pop, which is not bad. Yep, not at all.
01:14:40
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um So, yeah, I mean, you're so again, not not a huge success, but again, what was in second place, Let Him Go, ah which looking at that one, that's Kevin Costner, Diane Lane. Drammel.
01:14:56
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Drammel. Drammel. um the old drama Yeah, Diane Lane and Kevin Costner, Leslie Manville in there as well. Cool. I've made my thoughts on Kevin Costner pretty well known on this podcast.
01:15:07
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ah In third place, The War with Grandpa. Hey, was that that ah Robert De Niro movie where he's a grumpy grandpa? sure was. Yep, Robert De Niro plays a grumpy grandpa. grandpa In fourth place, something called Come Play.
01:15:21
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and I have no idea. That makes two of us. That looks like it is some kind of horror film ah with Gillian Jacobs and no one else I know.
01:15:32
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And then in fifth place, Honest Thief.
01:15:37
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and i Where was I in 2020? I don't know any of these fucking movies. You were locked the fuck down. That's a Liam Neeson action film. Dude, we played so much music. Like probably four or five hours a day, we would just be playing.
01:15:51
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Oh, man. I was still working. I was deployed to work from home during the pandemic. so i was getting I was getting pandemic unemployment from two different states, Steven. Nice. I made more money that year than I've ever made in a year in my life.
01:16:06
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Nice. I'm sorry. In 2020 and 2021, I made significantly more than I ever have in my entire life. And this is all above the line.
01:16:17
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Because... It was the Arizona unemployment that told me that I should call New York. Like, as I ended the phone call with them, they were like, hey, have you worked anywhere else in the last two years?
01:16:27
Speaker
And I was like, yeah, I just moved here from Buffalo. I worked at UPS, like, last year. And they were like, call New York. You get it from there, too. And I was like, like, legally, though, right? i'm not going to to pay this shit back, right? They're like, yeah, yeah, just call them.
01:16:39
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And so I did. And so... I bought a car that year, like an adult car. What? Not even a beat. i Look, I was almost 40 years old, and I had never had an adult car. I'd always had beaters.
01:16:51
Speaker
I loved all my beaters, especially my S10s. I always buy used cars. I will not buy a new car. I see no point. Well, my car was not new, but like to me, it was an adult car. It was, at the time, nine years old, and it had working air conditioning and cruise control. That's an adult car.
01:17:11
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Okay. And I never thought I, of all people, would own a Subaru, Stephen, but here I am. How fancy is that? Right. It's fucking fancy. That's all-wheel drive, Stephen.
01:17:22
Speaker
All-wheel drive all the time. Okay. Love to see it. Yeah, dude. I got two mufflers, half the exhaust. In sixth place, you have Tenet, holding strong from its September opening weekend.
01:17:38
Speaker
That's that Chris Nolan movie that i still haven't seen, right? It's fucking good. I own it. It's the first movie I ever bought on 4K Steelbook. Borrow it to me. No, I'll just i'll stream it. It's probably streaming somewhere. It's on HBO Max. Yeah, it's probably on HBO Max. It's the last movie he ever did with Warner Brothers, and he severed ties with them because they're date and day.
01:17:55
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on HBO max shit that they did in 2021. I'm going to get to it. In seventh place, you got a re-release of guardians of the galaxy. Apparently in eighth place, true to the game to Gina's story. I don't know what the fuck that is. It's one of those, one of those Christian movies.
01:18:11
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Oh, one of those like faithful movies where you're like, Oh, it's made by a Christian studio to win people to Jesus. Trust and obey Steven for there's no other way, homie. If you say so.
01:18:21
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In ninth place, you've got a re-release of Toy Story. And then in 10th place, Saban Films. It's a new release. ah Fat Man. the ah The Mel Gibson play as action movie Mel Gibson plays Santa Claus. Fat Man. is Fucking what? Is in 10th place. Do you not know about Fat Man?
01:18:42
Speaker
No. You don't know about Fat Man? I know about Fat Man, the cartoon character from the Weird Al show. no No, this is Gil Gibson movie. know about Fat Man on Fat Man, which is a podcast Kevin Smith does.
01:18:59
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No, this is a and a rowdy, unorthodox Santa Claus is fighting to save his declining business. oh Meanwhile, Billy, a neglected and precocious 12-year-old, hires a hitman to kill Santa after receiving a lump of coal stocking.
Pandemic Movie Releases and Experiences
01:19:12
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I have to see this. What the fuck?
01:19:17
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That looks really rad. Steven, you going to watch this with me? Not like physically with me, but like, are we going to watch this? I don't know, man. This looks, this could go. There's no in between on this. It goes one, it goes one of two ways and there's no in between. We are either going to love this or hate it.
01:19:36
Speaker
And Walton Goggins apparently plays the, uh, the hired hit man that is hired to take down Santa Claus 5.92. That's my sweet spot. Usually when most people like it, but ah most people don't like it, but a few people do. That's that's normally where I find my my happy place.
01:19:57
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So there we go. It just happens that way. I understand. huton
01:20:03
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um But yeah, there you go. That's What did you say the budget was? Like $5 million on this? Six. Six million. That's still, I mean, you make anything. Plus another eight for marketing.
01:20:19
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Like, the marketing budget out exceeded the budget of the film itself. They did better than Breakeven, but not by much. I know. Exactly. I get why there's not a sequel, but it's not like they lost money on you know?
01:20:30
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We can take comfort in that. You choose to release a movie like this during the pandemic. like and you why't shoot I don't know, choose. It's just like that's it was done. like What do you do with it?
01:20:42
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but he wait um when you get a lot of people A lot of people held that shit. yeah A lot of people sat on it until the next year. I don't know. This feels like ah this would be... like I'm glad it made money at theaters, but at the time, logistically, I think if you had hyped this up on whatever streamer it was going to premiere on and made this big streaming premiere... Well, it's Universal Thelma, so be on Peacock.
01:21:07
Speaker
Make it a big premiere, get some more subscriptions for it. I think that would have been the best use for it, because at the time... Like, honestly, I didn't have Peacock then because I had over the air TV so I could just watch Saturday Night Live from the antenna.
01:21:22
Speaker
But since I use a 4K monitor now instead of a television, I don't have a a antenna input. So I have to watch my shit on Peacock. So I didn't have Peacock then. But if this premiered on Freaky or on Freaky, if Freaky had premiered on Peacock, I i would have gotten ah at least a free trial subscription just to watch it.
01:21:43
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dave I believe that. um but Just based on what I had read and the trailers I had seen. i was hyped when I saw this movie. I did not go see it because I have a medically compromised person that I live with. So correct.
01:21:56
Speaker
Pretty soon after we got on lockdown, i did not see daylight for several years. I was not a compromised person at that point. So yeah, I wasn't really doing what I could to go out either. Like the one movie I did see in theaters during that time was when friend of the podcast, JP Leck invited a bunch of people out to go see, uh, he, he ran out of theater so we could watch the thing.
01:22:17
Speaker
And it was myself. I went by myself cause my now ex-wife did not want to go with me. it was Brett and, um, his spouse at the time. It was our friend of the podcast, Sam a Dumas,
01:22:29
Speaker
And his wife. We miss Sammy. I'm to see him tomorrow. Actually, you will too, cause you're going to be there. But we're recording a Well's You episode with him tomorrow. Oh, word? Yes!
01:22:39
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When
Podcast Scheduling and Editing
01:22:40
Speaker
Sammy was on that episode? Yeah, I got that link, and I thought that was the link to this, and I was like, why are you sending me two links? And i was like, oh wait, that's from WellesU. That's for tomorrow. yup there Yep,
01:22:52
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Straight up der. But yeah, ah that episode will drop in like October or something. i Actually, i think it's like late September, but yeah. Dude, yeah. Fuck yeah. It's... When is it coming out? I'm... not i'm I think in three weeks.
01:23:10
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and No, four weeks. September 9th, early September. Yeah. In a month. It'll come out in a month when we're recording this. I don't have to edit tomorrow because I edited that episode two weeks ago because I thought it was episode six.
01:23:22
Speaker
That's right. and if, if there is any crossover audience, like I have to imagine that like, since you're like, this is sort of your main podcast, um,
01:23:34
Speaker
that some of the people that are listening to Wells U, which there are dozens, literally dozens of us, which for an episode for, I'm sorry, for a podcast only has like six or seven episodes.
01:23:47
Speaker
Like that's not bad. That's not bad. Like you're, you're finding your audience and shit. And i have to imagine that some of those people are from disenfranchised. So yeah.
01:24:00
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I will say to them, listen to episode eight, because there is so much, so many tasks and quests and things that I am asked to do live while they're recording things that I happily do that I think it's probably some of my proudest work as an editor.
01:24:22
Speaker
Do you have that episode scheduled? Cause it is scheduled to drop tomorrow. Sure. Sure. Yeah, I've got it scheduled. Remind me after this episode to schedule it.
01:24:34
Speaker
I will remind don't worry. Okay, thank you, Steven. Episode 8, Marching Song, will be up as of the release of this episode. It will have released two days ago.
01:24:45
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Good thing I already edited it. Good thing Tucker already edited it. What an editing job it is, too.
'Freaky' Reviews and Discussion
01:24:54
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I listened to it, and now I was like, this is really good. Wait, this is not supposed to come out yet.
01:24:59
Speaker
But and coming off the heels, if you heard that episode two weeks ago or ah four weeks ago, no you didn't go back and listen to it again because I had to replace it with what was actually supposed to be there.
01:25:11
Speaker
But and it references the Man of Steel episode where I so skillfully like a fucking surgeon, Stephen inserted Battle Hymn the Republic into my Tuck Mugs ranch like a surgeon.
01:25:25
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Like, precise. For the very first time. Precise, dude! It ebbs and flows with the song, with my my little speech there. and and And we do a whole a whole spiel on Battle of the Republic at the end of that episode.
01:25:40
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e um Speaking of the Battle Hymn of the Republic, ah the Tomatometer score for Freaky is 84% certified fresh on the Rotten Tomatos. Fair.
01:25:51
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The meta score is a 67 based on 39 generally favorable reviews from critics. And Tucker, out of five stars, how many do you think it gets on Letterboxd?
01:26:03
Speaker
Oh, fuck a duck. I'm going to say this has got to stay in the threes. I'm going to say between 3.2 3.2. no. 3.4 and 3.8. 9. 3.9. Do do 5 or 4 spread? You 5. You 5 spread. Okay. then 4 through 9 then. 3.4 through 4. 3.9. and three point eight nine three point nine do i do five or four spread you do five you do five spread okay well then four through nine then three point four through four three point nine It's higher, isn't Fucking what? Fuck. look That's why I'm always like, you know what, Steven? That's why you always hear me being like, fuck Letterboxd. You know what saying? I know.
01:26:34
Speaker
I understand. I'll tell you what. i tell Tell me. Tell me what. I just did. Wait, did you? Yeah.
01:26:45
Speaker
So out of five stars, Tucker, how many are you giving to free Gay?
01:26:51
Speaker
Well, that's going to be a 4.5 for me. Okay. Because like I say, the script is only good. Sure. And the execution just elevates it. So in every way, every everybody who worked on this film...
01:27:11
Speaker
elevated it i'm talking about crew 2 like those effects look fantastic the cinematography does exactly what it needs to do for this movie the score is great like it it all it all comes together this is one of those rare instances where it just feels like everybody's on the same lane wavelength that's making this movie So that's four and a half.
01:27:36
Speaker
I don't like it quite as much as you do. It's a 3.5 for me, but I really, I'd still really enjoy it. Like that's still if really, that's a really solid film.
Light-hearted Banter and Upcoming Episodes
01:27:45
Speaker
That's still good. Just shy of greatness for me, but i I do really, it's got a soft spot for me. I've got a soft spot for it.
01:27:51
Speaker
Steven, let me tell you, if you rate Freaky 3.5, you might be Foxworthy. you might be a foxworthy
01:28:02
Speaker
Crown noises, crown noises. Yeah, he said the thing. Here's your sign. but thank you Thank you.
01:28:12
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Thank you. What are we missing? Get her done. That's what we're missing. Yeah, that's the one. Get her fucking done. Don't remind Yeah, I'm sorry. um Anyway, that is our episode on 2020's Freaky.
01:28:27
Speaker
Join us next week for a movie. Tucker has been... just anticipating is it god it is it's it's the only one this month that you were desperate to cut um look and i refuse to cut it because i no that's fair i'm if it brings you that much joy steven i will i've never seen through it but i just want to have fucking cover it i just want to cover all right okay this is winners tucker It was the first Troma film I ever saw. So um that's I'm not giving it away because we're covering a Troma film. That's all I'm saying. Right. Because the Toxic Avenger is coming out in theaters next week is why we're covering a Troma film. And though I didn't like it, it got me interested in Troma as a company. And I did like some Troma shit for quite a while. But I got to say, Stephen, the older I get, I just don't.
01:29:17
Speaker
I just think I'm too old for that now. Like I liked that when I was in my 20s, maybe my 30s a bit. But you know, sometimes you outgrow shit. And I still respect it. And I will watch it for you. And I truly do hope that it brings you joy.
01:29:29
Speaker
i truly hope it does. That's kind how I feel about Kevin Smith. like It's boy I feel like grown a lot of his stuff. But like I... Most of it. Here's the thing I've seen one other trauma film up to this point in my life. And it is the movie Chillers.
01:29:41
Speaker
And I will say, Chillers is a ah terrible, terrible movie. But I had so much fun watching Chillers. was going to it's fun. fun. I rated that one star on Letterboxd, but I gave it a heart. It's a one star movie that I love.
01:30:00
Speaker
And I feel like that, according to Brett, that is what makes you a horror fan is when you know a movie's bad, but you still stump for it anyway. And that's me with Chillers. Yeah. i Then I then i i will ah make a prediction here and say that I think as a first time watcher of next week's movie, I think that you will get a kick out of it.
01:30:18
Speaker
I hope so. I'm excited for it. I hope so too. I'm excited. Anyway, that one is our episode. It's all for you, Steven.
01:30:30
Speaker
Future episode of this podcast, the Omen remake.
Podcast Crossovers and Listener Interaction
01:30:35
Speaker
I'm sorry have Julia Stiles in this motherfucker right now.
01:30:41
Speaker
Another one we're covering later this year on Pot and Pendulum. We're covering the Omen films. Oh, that's exciting. That one was Sam Neill. Oh, I tell you what. Damn it, I did it again.
01:30:53
Speaker
Fuck. should we do a Should we try to wrangle a disenfranch another disenfranchised Pot and Pendulum crossover for the 2006 Omen? Let's do a crossover because if you guys are doing the whole series, yeah, let's do the remake. because i haven't like I've seen maybe 30 minutes of the remake and I remember being like, wow, this is like kind of shot for shot, the original, but also it's kind of different. I was really intrigued by it. I don't remember why I didn't finish it though.
01:31:24
Speaker
I think i like something came up and I just forgot about it. i did all the omens, but the omen for the made-for-TV movie in during the pandemic. like that was one The no third one's the one with Sam Neill, right? The third one's with samy preston or whatever yeah yeah i really Sam really like Sam Neill.
01:31:40
Speaker
That movie fucking sucks, but he's so good in it. He's so good in it. Yes. um And I have a feeling like, yeah, it's, that was my pick for, for this, for this year. Like every, every one of the panel gets a pick up a franchise. That was Omen was my pick. So I'll see if I can't finagle a crossover ah for that. Yes. episode Give me guess spot there.
01:32:02
Speaker
We've done it once before with the Child's Play episode, which Mike didn't give us the audio, so it didn't release on this feed. But it was technically our first crossover. Agreed. and we've done we've done a couple high-on-cartoons crossovers, and we'll we'll do another one of those.
01:32:17
Speaker
Hint, hint, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Sure. And then we're going to, like later this month, we're going to do a crossover with a podcast that is no longer existent, but the cast of Cthulhu. I need to get in touch with those guys.
01:32:29
Speaker
Oh, That's exciting. Right? And I'm going to be there. And you're going to be there. Just right right there with podcast royalty.
01:32:40
Speaker
Hmm. Hmm.
01:32:45
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Find us on ah Blue Sky Letterboxd and YouTube at DisinfranchPod. Shoot us an email, disinfranchpod at gmail.com. Let us know how we're doing or what movies you would like to see us cover.
01:32:59
Speaker
ah Give us a rating and review, five stars, please and thank you on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. It goes a long way to helping us find listeners just like you, and we think you're pretty rad.
01:33:10
Speaker
So people like you must also be pretty rad, too. And then also join the official conversation of the disenfranchised podcast over on patreon.com slash disenfranch pod ah for $0 a month. You can get all of the episodes you would get on our main feed.
01:33:27
Speaker
ah But also there's a comment section that you can join and just talk to us directly. Join the conversation. Tucker and I do respond there. um So you get to talk directly to the podcasters so um or for five bucks a month. fuck you Yeah.
01:33:42
Speaker
That was i was just a voice that I decided to do. i liked it, but i was just i couldn't I couldn't place it. I liked that. That's a new character, Steven. No, I hope not. Stephen's in a play again, you guys. I am.
01:33:55
Speaker
When you going to say something about that? Come on, man. Maybe when I get about to play. Maybe when I get to plug my own shit. I'm working on podcast. This boy would have been rehearsing anyway. Sorry. five Five bucks a month you get access to a back catalog of Patreon content, including episodes of Diss in Five Chai's, where we count down top five lists.
01:34:12
Speaker
Unenfranchised, we talk about movies that killed off your favorite franchises. ah Disenfranchised at the movies where we do ah reviews of films that have been in theaters. And or sometimes we'll do like commentary. We did a couple of movie commentaries. We've done some trailer commentaries. And just some general reviews as well. Yeah, general reviews of films. um Most recently, ah Tucker and a friend of the show, Evan Wilson, talking about the... We talked about The Apprentice.
01:34:42
Speaker
The Apprentice with Jeremy Strong. You and I talked about and Weird, the Al Yankovic story as well. We did. that was That was before you joined the podcast as a co-host, yeah. And if you ever want to experience one of the lowest points of my life, go ahead and check that out.
01:34:57
Speaker
I was going to say you were in a dark place in that episode, man. I'll you what, that movie coming out at that time probably probably saved some of my mental health. I was going to say that that movie was the salve you needed at that moment for sure. For sure.
01:35:14
Speaker
And we had a great time discussing it despite the darkness. And honestly, I wasn't in a great place during that episode either. ah yeah. you were going through the thing you were going through. Remember? That's the thing you were going through then.
01:35:25
Speaker
Yep. And I was. a Yep. I sure do. a few months away from my my first big medical scare, too. So that was yeah on the horizon. You didn't know it.
01:35:36
Speaker
Didn't know it. was Which is why I'm so happy in that episode. Yeah. yeah ah You and I were we were both going through some shit during that episode. So you, I think a little more than I was at that moment, but we were both going through it for sure.
01:35:48
Speaker
um But yeah, that's a great episode. ah So again, for five bucks a month, you get access to all of that and so much more. um And yeah, that's all the podcast. I'm going to be here.
01:36:00
Speaker
you can find me on blue sky and letterbox at chewy walrus ah listen to the aforementioned wells university podcast again we would have at this point just released our episode on the first of the orson wells projects that we're discussing ah his nineteen thirty two play unproduced at the time marching song about the the life of john brown um Or I guess not the life, but like the last push of John Brown, the rebellion of John Brown, the revolutionary John Brown. The main event. um you know
01:36:31
Speaker
And we're getting ready to record an episode that'll come out early September on his first short film with a friend of the podcast, Passing Future Guest, Sammy Dumas. Sammy! Love that guy.
01:36:43
Speaker
um And so, yeah, check that out. Wells University, ah wherever you get your podcasts. Ratings and reviews on that one would really also – I don't think we have any at this point, so please and thank you.
01:36:54
Speaker
ah if you If you do like what you hear on that show, please and thank you. We're about 30 regular listeners on that one. so Friend of the show, Hope Stow, who you've heard on this podcast many times. yeah She and I are on that show.
01:37:08
Speaker
The best radio voice. The best radio voice. She's really good. Hope does so many podcasts and I don't give a fuck if anybody listens to them because i will listen to them because I just love... It doesn't matter what she's talking about. i just She has such a unique voice. I don't mean like, oh, she's such a unique voice coming from a unique background.
01:37:30
Speaker
I mean like literally her voice is unique. Like the sound of her voice. Like I'm very into yeah like Why is she not in radio? Has she never done radio? Like, what the fuck? like that's She's obsessed with radio. That's the back the breze like the reason she wanted to do a Wells podcast is because she wanted to talk War of the Worlds ad infinitum.
01:37:53
Speaker
So like we're, and when we get to the shadow, like and we're going to do a, when we get to the, the Alec Baldwin film, the shadow, we're going to basically, that's going to be another disenfranchised crossover. We're going to do a Wells U episode and a disenfranchised episode on the Alec Baldwin film, the shadow.
01:38:11
Speaker
ah fuck yeah. Finally. I'll be pulling double duty on that one, but yeah. Duty. Like, um, yeah, um And um yeah, I'm in a play. So if you're in the Chicagoland area in late September, early October, I'm in one of my favorite plays,
Involvement in Theater and 'Inherit the Wind'
01:38:29
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actually. I love this show. It's called Inherit the Wind.
01:38:32
Speaker
um It's about it's basically a dramatic retelling of the Scopes Monkey Trial. And I play the town pastor. play ah the Reverend Jeremiah Brown, who the director of the play has called the only irredeemable character. So I get to play it like a villain role and I'm really kind of excited about it.
01:38:49
Speaker
I gotta tell you, Steven, I've never even heard of this play, which is great because going into anything blind is is the first step to really enjoying something. It's been made into multiple movies. And the fact that it's your favorite, like, that makes me excited to see it.
01:39:07
Speaker
It's like faith versus reason, which is one of my favorite topics. Dude, this is like falling off a log for you, dude. You've played Preachers before. I've been a pretty one.
01:39:19
Speaker
already, you're, Steven, you're a character actor and you flex that character already. So you know what, like the, the back of your hand, I guess is that phrase.
01:39:31
Speaker
There's a mole on my thumb and, um you know, you know, No, the it's it's it's a play I love. It's been made into a movie at least three times. The first one is it's Frederick March and Spencer Tracy.
01:39:43
Speaker
it's um And then the second movie is it was a made-for-TV movie with, I think, Kirk Douglas and Jason Robards. And I've even dipped my toe into the theater crowd, Stephen. and I've still never heard of this. You said four times they've made it? Three as a movie? The third one is George C. Scott and Jack Lemmon.
01:40:03
Speaker
like It's phenomenal play. do like Jack Lemmon. Oh, have you seen the the, speaking of George C. Scott and Jack Lemmon, have you seen the version of 12 Angry Men that they're in directed by William Friedkin? I have seen both versions of 12 Angry Men and i find both of them to be very, very, and well, the two that I know of, I find to be very, very entertaining.
01:40:25
Speaker
The first one was was one that was made for television. Did I tell you I saw that one live on stage with John Boy Walton? Oh, what's his fucking name? um Richard. What's his face?
01:40:38
Speaker
Richard. Oh, it's going to kill me because my dad was watching the Waltons today and I was like, damn, look at that mole.
01:40:46
Speaker
What's his name? He was in I'm looking it up now. The miniseries with Tim Curry. Yep. So is I'm getting there. Hang on. Seth Green and Jonathan trump Brandis.
01:40:59
Speaker
Where the fuck are you, John Boy? Richard. Hey, you here he is. ah Richard Thomas. Oh, fuck. It was right there. We're both so fucking stupid, Steven. We knew that. We knew that.
01:41:10
Speaker
It's just that, you know what? This is the weird thing is I was on my news feed the other day, just kind of scrolling through like I do. And i I read this article that said that, and you're not going to believe this, but it said that marijuana can negatively affect your memory.
01:41:28
Speaker
heard about this? Have you seen this? Yeah. i feel like I feel like I'd remember if I heard that. Right? That's what I'm saying. That's what saying. But no, I saw him in 12 Angry Men. He played juror number eight, the one who the one who's kind of like ends up pushing things the other way.
01:41:46
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Jack Lemmon plays in the William Friedkin movie. Yes. But he he plays it and he's also in future episode of this podcast, Battle Beyond the Stars. Maybe I'm going to take a cue from you because maybe I'm old enough to finally play the roles that I really give a fuck about playing on stage. Because I never wanted to play the young, cool roles. I always wanted any character in 12 Angry Men.
01:42:13
Speaker
like That's what I would want to do. Not some fucking whatever they're doing as a year old. you know what i mean? you Literally, you give me any role in that show and I'll have a great time. um like that every every Every role in that show is a character actor piece, 100%. Indeed. Same with six series of separation. I'll be Inherit the wind We're opening at the the last weekend of September, um at September 26th, 27th, 28th, and then we're also running October 3rd, 4th, and 5th.
01:42:44
Speaker
That's at the Curtain Call Theater in Mokina, Illinois. so when... sort of When would be the best time to come for me? Like, should I come to the first show or like, should I let you sort of.
01:42:55
Speaker
It depends on the, yeah I mean, I'll, I'll have it. I'll have it down by that point. Um, does it matter at all No, you can come to any show. I mean, there's the matinees on Sundays, the Sunday shows. So the 28th and the 5th. do love a matinee.
01:43:11
Speaker
So but my my parents and my partner's parents will both be coming to the first matinee. So if you want to meet all of our parents. You know what I love about a matinee? It's it's just like watching ah a movie and a matinee showing is you're in the dark for so long that you forget its day.
01:43:27
Speaker
And then when you walk outside, you're like, whoa! Sunshine! Sunshine! whoa You're Brad Pitt as Tyler Durden when he shoots the van. Like, whoa!
01:43:41
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It's that like startling. So yeah, if if you're in the Chicagoland area or are considering visiting, check out Inherit the Wind. And again, the Curtain Call Theater, Mokina, Illinois.
01:43:54
Speaker
Tickets on sale at ccctheater.org, I believe is the website. maybe And I'll be there. at so At one of those showings, I will be there. So you there's a chance that you'll...
01:44:06
Speaker
run into me and I realize that it's more desirable not to run into me so what I'm saying is I'm only going to go once so you have a pretty good chance of missing me one entire one in six chance of finding him and a one in five or a five in six chance of missing him entirely and unless I'm stoned I'll talk your ear off so there it is um So yeah, the Curtain Call Theater, it is ccctheater, theaterspelledre.com.
01:44:31
Speaker
The proper way. to that um But yeah, that's what I've got going on. And of course, ah join the Summer of George continues over on the Pod and the
Podcast Updates and Personal Milestones
01:44:41
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Pendulum. Hear me talking about Night of the Living Dead, ah Diary of the Dead, and Survival of the Dead.
01:44:50
Speaker
Gosh, I hope I hope you guys talk about the remake soon. we that That's next. And then the big 300th episode where we're counting down the top 25 horror films of the two thousand of the century so far. abroad It's just too broad. I can't do it. It's too broad. like It would take me days to just go through everything and then to bring it down to everything that I've seen And then break that down into like a list of maybe a hundred and then fuck, it would just take forever. That's so many movies. That was a huge part of my cinematic journey.
01:45:30
Speaker
was like because I graduated high school in 2001 I went I didn't go directly in but when I was 21 well when I was 20 I went into the military and so I had disposable income and so I was able to go see movies I was able to buy the movies I wanted every week stuff would come out I would buy it even after that even after got out of the military like I don't know I was always able to get all the movies, and I don't remember why I brought that up.
01:46:03
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Just because it's too broad for you to narrow down. oh yeah. No, absolutely. Yeah. I saw so much stuff that ah I can't even conceive. Like, it doesn't make sense to me to make a list of 10 movies over the last 25 years.
01:46:19
Speaker
And it's taking less than like a month to figure that all that shit out. Yeah. Well, that's what we're doing on over at Potting the Pendulum. so um And i've I had my list done in a couple hours. And that's the beautiful thing about it too. like Coming to horror late. Yeah.
01:46:35
Speaker
Like coming to horror late and then having a letterbox account where I log fucking everything I watch comes in very handy. So, yeah. Well, and when I was up and coming as a horror fan, like there wasn't streaming. So you just had to commit to shit. Like you had no idea.
01:46:51
Speaker
like if you rented something, you, you got to watch the whole thing, man. I paid fucking $3 for this. I have to watch it. You know, like now it's just streaming. You get half hour into something and you're like, fuck this. You're like, okay, fuck this. Like let's find something else.
01:47:05
Speaker
I already have the streaming platforms. What do I need watch whole thing for? Exactly. um Anyway, Tucker, socials. Go. Socials, yes. On YouTube and on Instagram, I am Ice909. That's I-C-E-N-I-N-E, the number zero and the number nine.
01:47:22
Speaker
Also, TuckMugs still exists. Tuck underscore mugs. We had a few posts in rapid succession last month, and there are more coming.
01:47:35
Speaker
So that's going to happen. I have a couple new mugs and I've gotten quite a few more shot glasses since the last time I posted the shot glass.
01:47:46
Speaker
That's true. On tuck mugs, which what was did I have? I ever put a well outside of that Jameson like little. like teeny tiny goblet. That's essentially a shot glass. If I put like a proper shot glass on there, i don't think I have.
01:47:59
Speaker
I don't believe so. ah You'd have to ask your former social media manager who on ceremony is fired. So that's why that's one of my favorite things to collect or things that are, I'm going to use, you know what I mean? Like that's why I collect coffee mugs and pint glasses and shot glasses.
01:48:16
Speaker
See, I hate practical shit. If you're going to give a gift, no practical shit. I want entertainment only. No, see, I'm just like too... ah like I'm so against the collector mentality and I'm pretty environmentally conscious. so like But also I have that urge to have the collector mentality.
01:48:36
Speaker
like Because I kind of started that gangsta shit and it's the motherfucking thanks I get. You know what I'm saying? like I kind of helped... usher in the age of man babies that just collect a bunch of useless shit that sets on shelves so it's kind of such a fucking hipster it's sort of my fault and i didn't mean to and i'm sorry so as a penance the only things i allow myself to collect are things that are i will use all the time so shot glasses coffee mugs pint glasses
01:49:09
Speaker
And you've witnessed all of them, Stephen. There's so many. have. I even had a theme buy at a Goodwill in Pittsburgh that I'll get into on Tuck Mugs. So if that sounds interesting to you, just ah follow Tuck underscore Mugs on the Insta Scrams immediately.
01:49:25
Speaker
ah there's We have quite a few followers. There's a few that are pretty rabid. In fact, I was very surprised at last week's guest that um brought up Tuck Mugs before I did, which I was very flattered.
01:49:38
Speaker
Very flattered at that. Because that's that's the whole point of Tuck Mugs. It's just to be like a kind of neutral, wholesome, happy place on Instagram. You got all kinds of shit going on Instagram.
01:49:50
Speaker
like You got the thirst traps, and you got all the political shit. and all that. But tuck mugs is just like a soft landing. Like let's look at some glassware homies and just have a time.
01:50:03
Speaker
Anyway, tuck underscore mugs on Instagram. Check that shit out. Let's, let's wrap it up, Steven. All right. That sounds good. Uh, so that has been our episode on 2020 freaky, for,
01:50:15
Speaker
ah four My co-host Tucker in the absent Brett Wright. Until next time, this is your host, Stephen Foxworthy, saying, having balls sucks.
01:50:47
Speaker
Bye.