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Behind the Scenes of 200 Episodes! {Episode 200}
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Hurray for 200 episodes! We are honored to have produced and aired so many episodes for you all and hope that you've loved listening as much as we've loved creating. We can't wait for another year of helping you find joy in the chaos.
Today we're sharing why we chose to start Outnumbered, some of the challenges we've encountered along the way and our favorite outtakes from 4 years of recording podcasts with 19 kids running around!
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Introduction & Podcast Overview
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Hello and welcome to Outnumbered the Podcast. I'm Audrey. And I'm Bonnie. We are experienced moms to a combined total of 19 children. In our weekly episodes, we explore relatable topics using our perspectives of humor and chaos. Tune in for advice and encouragement to gain more joy in your parenting journey.
Milestone Celebration & Audience Appreciation
00:00:31
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Hello, friends. Welcome back to Outnumbered, and welcome to our 200th episode. Woo-hoo! Yay for us. Yeah, we made it. 200, you guys. That's a lot of episodes. We started, what, early 2019, right?
00:00:46
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Yes. So it's been almost four years and we just love this podcast so much. We love all of you so much. So thanks for hanging in there with us.
Behind-the-Scenes Insights & Imperfections
00:00:56
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We decided that for our 200th episode, we wanted to give you guys just a little bit of a behind the scenes on starting and maintaining our podcast even amidst our busy lives and help
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All of you listening just to understand how it is okay to do things extremely imperfectly and that there is kind of a greatness to attempting something even if it is not ideal, even if we're just showing up the best we know how, right? Because we really feel strongly about that.
00:01:26
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Yes, that that is like, I don't know, we're going to we're going to address some things about like why we started the podcast and like our hardest parts and things. But this, yeah, this is going to be a fun episode. We have some fun packed in here for you.
00:01:39
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Yes, for sure. And we would love to answer any questions. If you guys want to get on Instagram this week and ask us any questions about things we talk about in this episode or anything we don't cover, especially if you're considering a podcast or a business or anything outside of your own comfort zone, we would love to talk about it.
Listener Engagement & Questions
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It's super fun for us to share our experiences and our stumblings, our failures and successes. So let's chat over there. It'll be fun.
Personal Stories & Inspirations
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Okay, so I want to start by asking Audrey a question because Audrey was actually the one that had the enough courage to ask me about the podcast. So Audrey, what made you think of starting a podcast and then approaching me about it?
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Oh, dear, I don't know. I mean, I do know, but I've never shared this before. So I guess here we go. So right, I don't know the exact timeline, but it was, it came to me very strongly that I had been given a gift of motherhood and
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the wisdom or at least the knowledge that comes from making so many mistakes and the need to share that with others. And this came through an experience that I've never shared with anybody except Bonnie before, so this is kind of scary for me.
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So there was a woman in my life, a friend in my life, and she and I were good friends. And she helped me after I had one of my kids and she was like there baking meals and taking care of the other child and like helping. And we hung out together and we were friends. Well, then my husband and I moved across the country and just didn't talk to this one really ever after we left. Like we were friends and we hung out and then
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We moved. So the next time that I not thought of this woman, but the next time, the next thing I know, I'm reading my friend's name in national headlines. And I'm just going to say that if you're listening with your kids, you might want to put your earbuds in right now. But my friend had just basically lost her mind as a mother and she
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is serving a life sentence in prison for killing her children. And I just thought that what if I had somehow been able to share the beauties and the joys of motherhood and the blessings, even though it's hard. So what happened with this woman happened at a time of extreme stress in her life.
00:04:26
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And what if we had stayed friends and she had somebody to talk to about how hard motherhood is, but how much of a blessing it is and how worth it it is. So because of that happening in my friend's life, I just felt the need to, if at all possible, I could share
00:04:51
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the beauties and the joys in spite of the hardships of motherhood. What's our byline, Bonnie? Besides lower your expectations, but finding joy in the chaos of motherhood. Like if I could help one mother out there see the joy through the chaos that it didn't matter what it took out of me to be vulnerable and to share and to do a podcast and go through all the hard work and effort. If it was helping one woman, then it was worth it.
00:05:23
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Yeah, that's so powerful. There is a lot of struggle the world over, I think, for moms. And it's a very isolating job being a stay-at-home mom. And it didn't used to be. We used to have better tribes, better connection with each other. And now, in modern society, it's not as common. And so that's a big reason that we want to be here for you guys is so that you can hear other moms who have gone through the same things and have totally
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lost their patients and totally been upset with themselves and their children and had messy houses and cleaned poop off the floor that we get it. And there is joy to be found for sure. So thanks for being vulnerable and sharing that, Audrey. But Bonnie, I didn't tell you about this until, I don't know, at least a year in. So what were your thoughts when I contacted you about this crazy idea of starting a podcast?
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So what's interesting is at the time I was pretty active in posting on my blog and creating videos and, you know, was pretty busy with that along with homeschooling and raising my kids. And podcasts had been around for a little while, but they kind of came into my mind in about in 2018, earlier 2018. And I started listening to a few and I remember thinking, this is really cool what people are putting out there. And there's so many different genres and and something kind of
00:06:43
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a thought just came to me in the back of my head and it was, what if I started a podcast? And then my
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immediate next thought was, you're crazy. You have no time for a podcast. That's a terrible idea, which is how it works when God puts a thought in my head and I just argue back. So that's where I was. I hadn't given it too much more thought in addition to that until Audrey one day. I don't know if you sent me an email or we were talking on the phone or something because we knew each other a little bit through Project Run and Play and a couple of sewing communities. We were in the same Facebook groups and things.
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And she burst a subject with me and said, hey, I've really been feeling this call to maybe start a podcast about motherhood. Would you be willing to do it with me? And immediately I knew, yes, I'm supposed to do this because she had the courage to step up and ask me. And I also knew that doing it myself was probably not going to be realistic because it's just so much more work if you can't share the editing and the research and everything else.
00:07:39
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someone else. And so, yeah, I for sure knew that it was an inspired thought for you. And I also knew that it was something that I needed to say yes to, even if it was kind of scary. And I'm so glad you did because here we are.
00:07:54
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This many years later, still
Podcasting Rewards & Community Building
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going. Yeah. Yeah. And we do have to say that. So here's things from our perspective. As much fun as it is seeing you guys listen to our podcast and get something good out of it. We love reading reviews. We love reading comments. It is just as much fun and just as much fulfillment for the two of us. I have to say that talking to an amazing, experienced
00:08:18
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But kicking mom like Audrey every single day of my life for the last three and a half, almost four years has been life altering for me. It has been a full four years because we started recording before we went live. It has just been a huge blessing in my life to be able to say, hey, I'm really struggling with this. What would you do in this situation? So even though we don't always have the time to talk one on one with each of you, we hope that you
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kind of feel something similar when you listen to us that you can come ask on Instagram or email us or something. And maybe there's already an episode out there that can help you with what you're struggling with because the mentoring, super important. And besides becoming like best friends, best internet buddies, we've only met once in person. We have made some really, really good friends through this podcast as well. Some of you who have reached out and contacted us and said, hey, asked a question or said,
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Hey, this really spoke to me, or can you help me with this? This is awesome. Yeah. And the interesting thing is that our lives were pretty similar at the time too. And Audrey, a couple of times was like, I feel like we're basically the same person, which is kind of how we connected in the first place.
00:09:27
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Okay, so we had our baby number eight. We had about the same time, right? And we both had girls. And then we started getting ready to do the podcast. We launched the podcast in early 2019 when we were both pregnant with baby number nine, also both boys. And then we launched and we both had those babies within a few months after that. So yes, we're crazy, but we made it work. It was really fun. And it's really nice having a partner, a co-host who understands what it's like to give birth and like, okay, we're going to do a bunch of episodes ahead of time.
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We're going to schedule them and then you're going to take a break. Luckily, we didn't have babies the same week. That would have been a little tough, but you're going to take a break and then I'm going to take a break. That worked out. Okay.
Embracing Imperfections & Relatability
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Before we go on, you guys, we do have to share that, like we said, this is a very imperfect process and it's kind of what we love about it. We are super not
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polished professionals, but I think that that's part of the appeal is that we're just moms like the rest of you guys. And so one thing we started doing early on was including a couple of our outtakes at the end of an episode. We don't do it quite as much anymore for two reasons. Number one, we're a little bit busier, so we don't always take the time to include it.
00:10:34
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But we're better. Yes, we're also better at podcasting. So we don't screw up quite as much. We don't lose our words quite as much. We don't say quite as many ums. They're still in there. So we pulled out a couple of outtakes to share with you guys today because they're just so funny. And if you've been a mom, you get it. So we're going to share a couple with you today. OK, you guys ready? Here's the first one. OK, Bonnie, hang on a second. I have a knocker on the door. Hang on.
Humorous Interruptions & Real-Life Parenting
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Sorry, he needed underwear. That's important. I usually have my toddler at the door with no panties on. I'm like, oh, someone help her. So that's a good one. A naked toddler knocking at the door. Yeah, thank goodness that was like before we did video for YouTube, right? Don't worry. We would edit out anything for nudity's sake, I promise. But the excerpts are always pretty fun.
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Okay, Audrey, so another question for you. What did you anticipate would be the hardest part about starting a podcast? Did you have any ideas? Oh my goodness. I do. You know what? I never liked the sound of my own voice. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And so having to listen to it and edit it, I knew was going to be super hard for me. And then when you broached a subject a couple years later about doing video, I was like, oh, Bonnie, no.
00:12:00
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And then the third, the third thing was like vulnerability, like sharing stuff like I did in this episode and feeling like just naked before the whole world because I share this stuff. And we have shared so much stuff on this podcast. And I'm like, I'm like a personal, really private person. And so how I got over that voice, how I got over the voice thing was I talked to my husband about it and he was like, Audrey, you have the sexiest voice I have ever heard in my entire life. And I was like,
00:12:31
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hell, I guess I need to put it out there then, right? Because we're totally making this podcast to be sexy. That's so sweet of him to allay your fears. I had a little bit of experience of video and photography of myself beforehand because I was doing photo shoots for my clothes and video tutorials and things.
00:12:54
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But honestly, it was so painful. The first handful of photo shoots, I was like, oh, I can't look, I can't look, you know. And the video, I wouldn't even edit them with my husband in the room because I was so embarrassed at how I looked and sounded. It's just, it's just not human nature to be staring at yourself all the time.
00:13:10
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and making sure that you're not tripping over your words or whatever. So it is a struggle. If there's anyone out there who's considering putting themselves out into the world in some way publicly like that, it is totally normal to hate everything you produce for a year. Just plug your ears every time it comes on. It's really hard, for sure.
Authenticity & Vulnerability in Podcasting
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I know. Some of those first episodes, I was like, just get through you, and then you can look and see at Bonnie again. You can hear Bonnie again.
00:13:37
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How about you? What was the hardest part for you or has it turned out like you expected? I think the hardest thing for me I knew was going to be finding quiet. So we decided to start the podcast just about a year after we moved into this house that we're in. And I know I've mentioned before that we have a detached guest house on our property. And so if we hadn't had that, the podcast probably wouldn't have existed because there was no way that with, let's see, my kids were 13 on down that I could have
00:14:05
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recorded a semi-quiet podcast. And I know you guys hear my kids sometimes, which I apologize. I do the best I can. And now I'm back in the house because we're renting out our guest house. So things are a little bit easier now because I have older kids. But sometimes you just make it work. You do the best you can. You do that solid B minus work and you put it out into the world and hope it's good enough to help people and change some lives. That is so true. Yep. Yep. I know my kids have been in the background sometimes too. It just is. We have 19
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kids between us, how are we not going to have kids in the background? And I feel like it probably would have been really disingenuous to put together a super professional podcast with no kids interrupting because nobody would believe that we were actually mothers because we can't even go to the bathroom without a kid knocking knocking. Like we're going to record a 45 minute podcast and nobody's going to interrupt, right? Okay. You guys ready for another outtake? Let's have it. I hope my husband doesn't kill me.
00:15:07
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For some reason it's so much harder for girls than it is for boys I don't know my husband have issues, but I certainly did
00:15:15
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So if you could tell, that was the episode where we talked about how to talk to your kids about sex. And we for the first time broached some subjects that were a little uncomfortable for us to talk about publicly, but that was a fun one. That is one of our most popular episodes too, is talking to the one about how to talk to your kids about sex. So apparently we weren't the only ones uncomfortable with that topic. Other people are needing help too, so you're welcome. We did the hard stuff for you guys. Yeah, you're welcome.
00:15:45
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That was like our episode that we did on intimacy and marriage. And the behind the scenes on that one is we actually had to record that one two times because we recorded it. And then we had both of our husbands listen to it and one of our husbands, which will
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remain unnamed said you guys sound like schoolgirls giggling in the back of the bus just come on you you guys are the experts on this come on act like it sound like it it's a body and I recorded the exact same content but as if we were the experts on it because I mean you know 19 kids
00:16:19
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We know a thing or two. Yeah, I will say that about the podcast that we are very confident in our knowledge as mothers, but we're not as confident as content creators, right? We have both been doing this for a little while, but it takes a lot of self-confidence to put something into the world and know that that's the truth and that's something that has been shown to be true through your experience and to put that out very confidently. That is a trickier part.
00:16:46
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, who else could do the podcast like we do? Like, in my really low points, I've thought, okay, I'm going to tell Bonnie, she's got to replace me with somebody else. And I'm like, oh, poor Bonnie. Like, who? Yeah. There's nobody like you. No, I mean, like, who are you going to find with nine kids that, you know, has time to podcast?
Co-Hosting Dynamics & Enjoyment
00:17:07
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Yeah, exactly.
00:17:10
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One thing I did not expect in doing the podcast was, number one, I didn't expect to love it as much as I did. I didn't expect it to be as easy as it is with a co-host. Now, doing it on your own would be significantly more work and effort, and having a co-host has absolutely been the only way that both of us could make it work.
00:17:26
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But also, I didn't expect to enjoy sharing those vulnerable moments as much. Like Audrey was saying, we do end episodes sometimes and have a bit of a vulnerability hangover as Brene Brown calls it. Like, oh, was that right? But in the end, like Audrey said, if it's something that could help anyone out there understand, I am not alone. Other people feel this way. And I will get through it. I will be OK. I didn't anticipate that feeling so good, knowing that
00:17:55
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me opening up and showing my weaknesses was going to be helpful to somebody else. That's pretty powerful. Okay. So there've been a few other trials we've dealt with along the way. So Audrey was a quitter and stopped having babies after number nine. Just kidding. And I moved on and had number 10 and now I'm the quitter, wrapping that one up. So obviously having a baby is a little bit tricky, making sure that there's a lot of episodes where one or both of us is out of breath.
00:18:25
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We were both recording at nine months pregnant. And then I had some family issues. My parents unexpectedly divorced a couple of years ago. That was very, very unexpected and was a real big trial for me and something that Audrey helped me through a lot. And Audrey, I know you've had tricky things as well. So that's just life, you know, how things work.
00:18:50
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I know. I know. And again, kudos to us for keeping going through all this stuff that we've gone through. Go us. Oh, I know. I know. Another behind the scenes one is that we wanted to record the episode about how to stay healthy in winter. But my family and I came down with COVID. And if you listen to some of those episodes at the beginning of 2020, I sound really sick. And I was really sick. Yes, Audrey.
00:19:19
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Audrey has the very special privilege of having gotten COVID and passed it to her entire family before anybody ever shut down from COVID. She was like one of the first early adopters. Good job, Audrey. Yeah. Because what was that, like January? It was like January of 2020 before anybody even knew what it was. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Yeah.
00:19:39
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My husband had been on business travel that was exposed to people who had just been in Wuhan, China, so there was like this. Anyway. You got the direct strain, girl. You got the early version. I know, but we wanted to. We kept saying we had this idea, yeah, we're going to record about how to stay healthy in winter, except we can't record this week because Audrey sounds like she's dying. She's obviously not healthy.
00:20:00
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What do you know? What do you know? I know. So there was that. I went through a whole experience where my husband and I were buying a business, and it kind of fell through. And we went out the other side of that one and keeping the podcast going through that. Then we have a child that's gotten married. We have kids that have left home. We're kind of on both the baby end of it and that, you know,
00:20:30
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being a parent to adults end of it. And there it, you know, it doesn't all go smoothly all the time. And so, yeah, like someone, I remember sending Bonnie a Marco Polo and saying, Bonnie, I can't do the podcast anymore. And she's like, what? And I said, no, Bonnie, I can't because everything that we've said on the podcast, like, I feel like I've, like, it doesn't, like, I just can't,
00:20:54
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somehow I've been like fake or not true or, you know, because of an experience with one of my children. And because you're not a perfect parent and your children aren't perfect. Hmm. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's awful. Because of imperfections. Exactly. I know. And Bonnie was like, yeah, actually, you're not quitting. Talk to you this week. We'll record. Bonnie, I can't.
00:21:17
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I'm so glad you shared that though because we have had plenty of our own issues with confidence, issues with knowing if we even have anything of value to share, right? You guys, we're not trained therapists. We're not trained parenting experts. We are just moms who have been through a lot of things.
00:21:38
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And because of that, we also know a lot of what other people might call failure, a kid who goes out and does things that we do not endorse in the least, or a family member who tells us that everything we're doing is wrong. Even choices we've made that we then later on think, actually, that wasn't the best choice. And then we learn and we move on. And that is life. And so that actually, I remember you telling me that, and that was a really bad day for me. I was like, oh, please, please don't quit because I cannot do this on my own. But it's just a good reminder that
00:22:07
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This is called being human. This is what human parents do. We try a thing and it doesn't work out the way we anticipated and we try another thing. And the complexity comes from us being imperfect and also our children being their own selves
Imperfections & Self-Improvement
00:22:22
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with complex human brains and emotions that do not respond the way we thought they did and that have needs and wants that we weren't aware of. It's all just a big muddy mess and we're here for it. We're here for the ride. Let's do it.
00:22:37
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I know. I think the really, really helpful thing that you shared with me, what you came back with and told me was, you know what, Audrey, you're not perfect. I'm not perfect. We're not perfect. But I think there's still moms out there who need to hear what we have to say. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's right. That's why we're doing this. And so that was like, Bonnie saves the day.
00:22:59
Speaker
That reminds me of when I was single in college. I went to some church event and they were talking about dating. That was what was on everyone's mind, right? Early twenties thinking, who am I going to date? Who am I going to settle down with? And the speaker said, stop looking for the person who is perfect. Stop looking for the potential spouse who is perfect. Because even if you found one, why would they want you? A little bit of a slap of the face, but it was like, oh, I forgot.
00:23:29
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Not only are we not perfect, we're not supposed to be perfect. Because if we were, who would gain value from our knowledge, right? No mistakes to learn from, no problems to troubleshoot. We're supposed to go through the hard things so that we learn and so that others can learn from us as well. So you're welcome. We're going ahead of you and screwing everything up. So you can only screw up like, I don't know, a third of it. You're welcome.
00:23:54
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You're welcome. Yeah. Okay. Let's do another outtake. You ready? I remember meeting some ... Hold on one second. Go away. Oh my gosh. My baby is still not in bed. Where is my son? Hold on one second. Let me text him out. No. Go back to the house or you're going to be in trouble.
00:24:28
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Bonnie, I'll just tell you this since you can't hear me and you'll find it later editing. I think you're really amazing for committing to doing this podcast with so many small kids and not big teenager helpers like I have. I think you're awesome and I wish I could send one of my kids to help you.
00:24:48
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But anyway, thanks for doing what you're doing. I appreciate it. So that's a newborn baby dean who's crying his head off. Did you guys love that? Like, get back in the house or I'm going to... I don't know. Audrey's listening. I better be careful what I say. What do I threaten? What do I threaten? What can I take away?
00:25:16
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Something that sounds really bad. I'm going to scratch your eyeballs out with a salty spoon. Something weird. They know you're not going to follow through, but it sounds scary. Yeah. In the moment, in five minutes, they're like, what? That didn't make any sense. Whatever.
00:25:35
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A couple of times when I was recording in the guest house, I would look out my window. The door was a glass door and I would look out the door and I would see like a half naked child running down my driveway and I'm like, no, you're going to just pause one sec. I'll be right back. So many examples of that. You guys are welcome that we do a lot of great editing. Although part of me thinks maybe we should have just left all that in, you know, like life. So on that note, Audrey, what is the most random thing you had to deal with in the middle of recording podcast?
00:26:03
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Oh my goodness. You don't want to know. Are you serious? Yeah. Yeah. Let's hear it. So as you guys know, like this one pops to mind because I don't think it can get any more random than this. But as you guys know, we live on a small hobby farm here. Well, I always let my family know, you know, at the beginning of the day, this is what I'm going to be doing. Okay. So they knew I was podcasting and I get a child coming in my room. Dad needs you. Dad needs you. What is going on? So,
00:26:32
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We can't find, we can't find the, so we have animals. And they had decided to castrate the bull calf and turn it into a steer while I was podcasting. And they didn't have all the supplies or they couldn't find the cauterite or whatever. And I'm like, and it's like they've got him hog tied and he's out there and he's bleeding and they need mom to get something. I'm like,
00:26:53
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Seriously, really, come on. So top that. I don't know. Top that. I don't think I can. I don't think I can. I was listening for some really distressed mooing in that episode. I wish you could. No. Hands down. Hands down, that wins the prize.
Complementary Skills & Balance
00:27:10
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I mean, mine was naked children and poop smeared somewhere. But yeah. Castrating a cow? I mean, come on. Really? Totally. You get the prize for the most random interruption. They knew. They knew.
00:27:24
Speaker
Oh, that's so great. Oh, good old farm life. I love it. Okay. There is another great one I want to share. Are you guys ready? Okay. Hang on, Bonnie. There's a spider and I'm not going to be able to concentrate until I take care of this thing.
00:27:44
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Okay, we're good. I'm that. I think that needs to be an outtake. It sounded like you were taking a hammer to your desk. Could you have concentrated if there was a spider? No, no, but I don't know that I would have killed that. I probably would have called a kitten to do it.
00:28:06
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You guys, it was so loud. She starts whacking at this thing. I'm like, is it like a four inch tarantula? Like how many whacks does this thing need? This is big and distracting and I should have put myself on mute. Apologies.
00:28:22
Speaker
We don't have time for that when there's a spider escaping. No. Oh my goodness. Escaping, I know. We get wolf spiders. And when the change of the season, and they're about this big. Yeah. You guys, spiders are one of the things that I do not do. And when we moved into this house, they were everywhere. Mostly daddy long legs, which is fine. I can handle that. But also black widows, also some wolf spiders. I'm like, it's a good thing I'm 40 and not 14, because I would have run screaming into the hills if a younger me had seen all these spiders. But we're making it work.
00:28:50
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good old farm life sort of. We're not really, but we're wanting to be like you. Yeah. Yeah. So Bonnie, at the beginning, we kind of thought we were basically the same person, but I think through a lot of episodes, we've discovered a lot of ways that were actually different. So what have you noticed in ways that were different that people may or may not know?
00:29:13
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Yeah, a lot of different things. And this is one of those examples of how we just knew that this was a project that came not from us, that the idea came from God because we are just a really, really great match in a lot of ways. Like if she was a man, I probably would have married her.
00:29:29
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She's just so calm and soft spoken and I am not and I rush into things and I make decisions quick and she stops and thinks about it, which neither one is right or wrong, but it really helps to temper you when you have somebody. So I won't let her wait forever to make a decision and she will slow my role a little bit if I'm trying to dive into something that doesn't make any sense. She thinks a lot more about things.
00:29:52
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so many things like that. We did the Enneagram episodes and we learned a lot about ourselves. I didn't realize that she was so much of a perfectionist. I don't think she realized that I was so much of a control freak. I don't know. What have you seen? I want to know what your thoughts are.
00:30:12
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It's like you can make an immediate decision and it's a right decision. And I don't know, maybe it's because of the perfectionist tendencies, but I call myself a slow thinker. Like I probably said that 2000 times. Like I'd be like, I need an outline for this one a couple, at least a couple of days ahead because I'm a slow thinker and I have to come up with these things for a while. But like that snap decision making that's like right. Like I can't do that or I'm scared to do that or something. That's one really big thing. One thing that I noticed is like,
00:30:44
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Okay, so I think this is more of a personality type thing, was like, oftentimes you will restate something that I say. And I asked one of my daughters who was really into personality type, I was like, why does Bonnie
00:30:57
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like say what I just said again. And they're like, Oh, well, Bonnie, that is Bonnie's personality type. That's her way of agreeing with you is that she takes what you say and says it again. And I was like, Oh, that is so cool. So she's like agreeing with me because at first with my perfectionist tendencies, I was like,
00:31:14
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She thinks I didn't say it right, and so now she's going to say it right again for the audience or something. That's so funny. Yeah. Yeah, that is how I agree with people. And I think sometimes, because I'm more of a talker and less of a thinker, my husband would agree with that.
00:31:29
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Sometimes I can't process things until it comes out of my mouth. And so you'll say something and I'll go, oh, and I restate it. And I go, yes. Like it finally sinks in when it comes out of my mouth, which is one of those things that I really wish was not an issue for me because then I would stop talking sometimes and just think.
00:31:46
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But my husband and I have conversations all the time, and he'll just be silent for the longest time. Then 20 minutes later, he responds. And I'm like, I'm way past that now. Because I'm thinking about it as it's coming out of my mouth. And he has to think for a long time before it comes out. So yeah. So funny. So funny. Another thing that I really love about you that I don't have is that you're so willing to try new things. And I'm so resistant to new things.
00:32:11
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But you're willing to dig into the technical stuff. Okay, the podcast, this technology side isn't working and let's do this and let's do this. And I'm just like, my eyes are rolled back in my head and I'm like, I can't. I can't. I'm in a fetal position. Take care of it. Yeah. Well, thank goodness you love Instagram more than I do. So it's the word match made in heaven. It's all working out. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We've got another outtake for you guys. You ready?
00:32:38
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Maybe we should have titled this quality time with kids instead of one on one because I really, I really don't. What? Nope. Go do some coloring. Hey, go play, go play perler beads. Give me a half an hour and I'll check with them. Nope.
00:33:12
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Oh my goodness. Can you hear me? Hear my flip flop slapping away. Come here you. Yeah, come here you. I'm calling Perler beads stupid. Stupid man. At any other time they would enjoy it, but when you're podcasting and not paying attention, Perler beads are stupid. Yeah, and they only want screens, right? Of course.
Podcast Impact & Listener Gratitude
00:33:30
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Well you guys, that's it for episode 200. We hope that
00:33:35
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You've enjoyed it. We have certainly enjoyed making the past 200 episodes for you. And although we don't always enjoy the imperfections and the vulnerability and hearing her voices and all the other things, kid interruptions, we do feel like there is still a need for our message to be heard out there. And so if you guys want us to, if you guys are loving it, we'll still keep going.
00:34:02
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Yes. I don't think either of us could have anticipated just how much work and even emotional work necessary to put our lives out there in such a detailed way because we've both been on the internet before. We just haven't shared anything near this amount of things that are close to our heart that are important to us that we're embarrassed about or frustrated about or
00:34:27
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we feel scared about, right? But it is also, I don't think we ever could have anticipated just how rewarding it's been and just how fulfilling it has been to share our imperfections with you guys and to get the feedback. And we love, love, love hearing that people are still listening and that they're sharing and that there is something of value that we're putting out into the world and it's helping someone. So thank you guys so much for sticking with us, listening to episodes, going back, sharing, leaving reviews, all the things you do.
00:34:56
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Sharing us on Instagram, it's all so, so, so, so, so appreciated. We love you guys so much and we'll talk to you next week. I'm Bonnie. I'm Audrey and we're Outnumbered. Thanks for listening, friends. Click the link in the show notes to subscribe to our email and never miss another episode. Show us some love by leaving a review on iTunes or sharing the podcast with a friend. Thanks for all your support. We'll talk to you next week.