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Session 58 - The Peak of NCAA Wrestling Duals
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We discuss one of the busiest weekends of the NCAA Wrestling season. With several exciting and contentious matchups and duals this weekend, there are many notable results to look at. We also look at the senior level results and the upcoming Flowrestling Senior Level Card.
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Transcript
Weekend Reflections & Birthday Banter
00:00:00
Cokeley Brothers
All right, here we are.
00:00:02
Reese
We're here.
00:00:03
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, episode session 58 of the barn session. Lot to talk about this. There's a, I mean, I don't even know where to begin with the duels, but, um, yeah.
00:00:17
Cokeley Brothers
How are you guys doing? How are you feeling after, after this whole last three days, basically?
00:00:23
Ryne
Feel great.
00:00:24
Reese
I'm alright.
00:00:26
Ryne
I thought I thought this weekend was jam packed full of action.
00:00:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:00:33
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I think this is this is probably the best week we're going to have as far as the number of crazy duels that we had and and all the matchups and and the results. we might This might have been the peak. We'll see you next week. Everybody's talking about Iowa Penn State, Iowa Penn State.
00:00:52
Reese
Should we address something else before we get in into the wrestling?
00:00:56
Ryne
Sure. Happy birthday. Devin on before just wanted to say that my good, my good friend Chisholm shout out.
00:01:03
Reese
He's probably, you know, he's probably a Chiefs fan.
00:01:06
Ryne
No, he's not.
00:01:06
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, you want to talk about the Chiefs?
00:01:07
Ryne
He's a, he's a Cowboys fan.
00:01:10
Reese
Eugh.
00:01:11
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, hey, man.
00:01:12
Reese
Eugh.
Celebrity Influence on Sports Viewership
00:01:13
Reese
Eugh.
00:01:14
Cokeley Brothers
Good good for the Chiefs, you know?
00:01:16
Reese
Ryan, Ryan, you get to eat your words, buddy.
00:01:16
Cokeley Brothers
They they get to ride this wave.
00:01:21
Ryne
I do. I do. I do.
00:01:23
Cokeley Brothers
what What did Ryan say?
00:01:24
Ryne
I thought the bills had it in the bag, dude.
00:01:27
Cokeley Brothers
Really?
00:01:28
Reese
He underestimates the power of viewership.
00:01:35
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, I saw somebody's clip this morning. They were they were like straight from commercial. The first thing they look at after the game is over, it's Taylor Swift. She's on the screen. And it's like, yeah, I mean, people that's what that's what the new viewers want to see. So.
00:01:50
Ryne
That was so funny.
00:01:52
Reese
Dude, I listened to ah Portnoy like do his little post.
Fan Nostalgia and Team Performance
00:01:57
Reese
Postgame like take calls from fans or whatever and it was like he was just getting like Buffalo Bills people on and there they were just losing their mind It was it was awesome.
00:02:02
Ryne
Yeah.
00:02:02
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yeah.
00:02:06
Ryne
Oh yeah.
00:02:08
Reese
I was listening to it while I was making dinner.
00:02:09
Ryne
But yeah that's what that's with, what John grew it in, right?
00:02:09
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:02:13
Reese
I Don't know ah is it a cut yeah, okay.
00:02:13
Ryne
We old Raiders coach, the old Raiders coach, he works, he works for bar stool now.
00:02:15
Reese
Yeah, that makes sense cuz he kept calling him coach
00:02:20
Cokeley Brothers
He's he is ah unhinged.
00:02:20
Ryne
so that's good He's the man.
00:02:23
Cokeley Brothers
He's great.
00:02:23
Ryne
he he's i mean as far as it goes like When it came to coaching NFL you know professional football players, he probably was not the man. But when it comes to being a part of Barstool, he's definitely the man.
00:02:36
Ryne
Perfect for the job.
00:02:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, absolutely.
00:02:38
Reese
Bro, this one guy went on like a five minute long, like, basically like, he's like, you know, dude, it was like the most heartfelt like, he's like, you know, things aren't going well in my life and sometimes I just need my team. And he was, it was dude, it was four minutes and he was like talking about how he was nine years old and something similar had happened and he's like, I'm 43 now and this is the same shit and it was just, bro, his,
00:03:07
Reese
Was crazy It was so like and there was just no like pause or anything It was just like he just had it all
00:03:07
Cokeley Brothers
Can't escape the cycle. That's awful.
Super Bowl Predictions and NFL Analysis
00:03:15
Reese
ready to go.
00:03:15
Reese
You know now who's it was Get that man, you know contracting I Don't even care bro I really just wanted the bills to win especially after you said what you said because I was like oh this Now now they have to beat the bills just to prove Ryan wrong.
00:03:22
Cokeley Brothers
Damn.
00:03:23
Ryne
So, so how do you feel about the Super Bowl matchup?
00:03:36
Reese
I
00:03:36
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, you wanted the Chiefs to win. Okay. Yeah.
00:03:38
Reese
i Don't care. I don't mean ah yeah I don't know. I don't know what's gonna happen. I mean I'm assuming they're gonna win Or there'd be like did have they They didn't play the Eagles this year they did didn't they oh Probably not yes
00:03:44
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. I don't know. Saquon Barkley's pretty scary.
00:03:47
Ryne
ah If they, if they can't stop St. Quambarkly, they're, they're screwed.
00:03:52
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and they had a hard time stopping Josh Allen. If you can't stop Josh Allen, Saquon's mean.
00:03:56
Ryne
How are you going to stop Saquon Barkley?
00:03:58
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:04:02
Ryne
I don't think they did.
00:04:04
Cokeley Brothers
i don't I don't know if they did.
00:04:05
Ryne
Only they did. The Packers did twice.
00:04:08
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, that'll happen to you.
00:04:10
Ryne
Lost him there was their first lost and then their second and then their last loss.
00:04:10
Reese
The Packers beat himself Maybe they'll maybe you know, they won't win just so, you know, we keep the whole nobody's ever three Pete repeated ah alive It hasn't happened yet.
00:04:17
Ryne
No, the Packers did not beat them.
00:04:30
Reese
It's probably dude just that's the idea that i could ever really happen after this even It's hard to imagine
00:04:31
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Yeah.
00:04:37
Ryne
Is it though?
00:04:38
Reese
Not really not know because you know if they can fix it, you know, and then anything's possible But dude that they add a like just pure skill like doing that three times that seems no way Yeah Yeah, and luck and only get you so far
00:04:46
Cokeley Brothers
Truly.
00:04:51
Ryne
No, yeah, at that level.
00:04:53
Cokeley Brothers
A little bit of luck sprinkled in there.
00:04:55
Ryne
Mm hmm.
Challenges in College Sports Programs
00:05:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, definitely. All right, but but yeah, that's football. Let's let's get into some wrestling. Uh, I have on here Cleveland state, their programs getting dropped.
00:05:12
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, but I mean, really, if you want to hear like the, the meat and potatoes and the, and the real stuff around that, if you want to hear what's what regarding the program and the university and all of the factors, factors that come into play, go listen to Willie.
00:05:28
Cokeley Brothers
Willie sailor talk about it on bash in the brain. He pretty much. I mean, didn't leave any stone unturned regarding
00:05:36
Reese
Alright one more thing now cuz that just reminded me bash bash Huge bills fan loved to see the meltdown from Justin bash He called Travis Kelsey a cuck I Don't know I Was like man, I can't believe if he knows that word.
00:05:39
Ryne
Yes, I knew it. Yes. Yes. Yes. What a, what a cry baby dude. Oh my God. How is he a cuck? He does he not know the definition of cuck?
00:05:58
Reese
That's what I was thinking. was I was like, how does he know?
00:06:00
Ryne
There's no way he, there's no way he knows what it means then if he's calling traffic, I mean furthest thing from it, you know?
00:06:06
Reese
Yeah, don't I don't know. I don't know where he came up with that, but I was like, dang, dude.
00:06:09
Ryne
So you're basically, you're telling me that Travis Kelsey is sitting in the corner of a room watching other dudes rail Taylor Swift. Get out of here.
00:06:16
Cokeley Brothers
Just imagine now, maybe don't imagine.
00:06:19
Reese
Yeah, I don't know. That was weird.
00:06:20
Ryne
The truth.
00:06:20
Reese
yeah You don't to imagine you can just go to go back to those those weird ah AI images that were you know all over the place like a year ago.
00:06:21
Ryne
The truth is stranger than fiction.
00:06:32
Ryne
Oh, geez.
00:06:34
Reese
What do you think of that, Sammy?
00:06:36
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know what you're talking about. I have a very clean ah internet algorithm.
00:06:38
Reese
Yeah, i mean me neither, dude.
00:06:43
Ryne
clean algorithm.
00:06:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I actually that's so I've i've heard a lot of
00:06:46
Reese
Yeah, you know you never see people getting murdered on Twitter. Yeah, I believe you.
00:06:50
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, no, so so I've heard a lot of people like complain about their like Twitter being unbearable to use. I only use following and I only follow wrestling accounts and it's pretty great.
00:06:58
Reese
Yeah. i I try to use following, but I follow so much boring stuff that I'm just like, yeah go back to for you. just yeah Yeah, I should probably just do that.
00:07:06
Ryne
For you is awesome.
00:07:08
Cokeley Brothers
right if yeah saw It'll load me into for you and it'll be like Elon Musk tweet, Elon Musk tweet, Donald Trump tweet, somebody getting murdered, carnivore diet. Okay, i but I'm back over to, to who I'm following. Let me just read about some wrestling real quick and get out of here.
00:07:24
Ryne
i Minds, minds, minds, rest some wrestling, some one piece, Elon, Donald Trump, ass, and then other stuff.
00:07:34
Reese
oh Come on we're gonna leave that out can only block yeah, that feels very futile
00:07:36
Ryne
Giant booty. Just, I'm just like, Oh, what the heck? And you know what? Every time I, I get naked girl popping up on there, I'm like, all right, block block.
00:07:46
Ryne
Cause I'm, I don't want that. I don't want that on my for you.
00:07:49
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that's that's a futal that's a futile effort though.
00:07:52
Ryne
I know. It is futile. it's almost It's almost like it's like, oh, you're gonna block this. I'm gonna keep giving you more.
00:07:58
Cokeley Brothers
you getdding You interacted with this, so the algorithm is going to give you more of it. It's basically what's happening.
00:08:02
Ryne
Oh, my goodness.
00:08:05
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, back to the wrestling.
00:08:05
Reese
yeah yeah giha What were you saying about him though even I don't even what was it what why'd you bring a bash Oh
00:08:08
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:08:11
Cokeley Brothers
I was talking about Cleveland State dropping their program and I talked about how Willie, Willie covered the whole situation. It's not really related to NIL. It seems like Cleveland State administratively is just a nightmare to begin with. Uh, that's why there's not really much in terms of hope for it. So, uh, sucks, but.
00:08:30
Cokeley Brothers
You know, we got to find I guess the biggest thing and the biggest takeaway that I found from it is any programs that exist right now, if you're a head coach or if you if you care about your program that you're a fan of or if you're a part of it, you got to find a way to keep to to financially ah support yourself, right?
00:08:51
Cokeley Brothers
Willie basically called it like, give it give your university a free sport. If you if you raise enough money to to run your program on your own without the support, financial support of a university, they don't have to worry about you.
00:09:02
Cokeley Brothers
So, and I mean, that just makes sense. Obviously easier easier said than done, but it'd be great to have that for as many ah college teams as possible for wrestling.
00:09:12
Ryne
In Cleveland, in that area, probably should be just as easy as it said, though.
00:09:18
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I mean, it's, There's a lot of, there's a lot of great wrestling in the Ohio area in in Cleveland and in particular. Um, so you'd think, yes, there's a lot of, there's just a lot, but I don't, I don't know. I just don't know what things look like for everything regarding Cleveland state. So.
00:09:36
Reese
Well, at least they weren't the only sports that got dropped. that That's any consolation.
00:09:41
Ryne
And they dropped a bunch.
00:09:42
Reese
It was just like softball and women's golf.
00:09:43
Ryne
Who else said, oh, that sucks.
00:09:45
Reese
I think those were the other two.
00:09:46
Cokeley Brothers
hey They don't even have a, so they, the word is that they hired an outside firm to like adjust their financial situation for sports. And, and like, it was cut these programs.
00:09:58
Cokeley Brothers
They don't even have a football team.
00:10:00
Reese
Yeah, that's crazy.
00:10:02
Cokeley Brothers
Like, so I don't know what's going on there, but also a thing.
00:10:06
Ryne
Poor leadership. It's just as Willie said, poor leadership.
00:10:08
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. yeah Yeah. A thing to think about for other implications is Cleveland state open was a relatively. Not popular, but, but it was a tournament of note.
00:10:18
Cokeley Brothers
And so that's going to be gone. That's a, that's a hole to fill for somebody out there.
Debate on NCAA Tournament Location
00:10:23
Cokeley Brothers
So I guess, yeah.
00:10:23
Reese
That's probably okay. I mean, plenty of tournaments.
00:10:27
Ryne
How do you feel about the, how do you feel about the coaches that are calling for, uh, you know, the NCAA tournament to be moved away from Cleveland next year?
00:10:39
Ryne
How does that, how do you guys feel about that?
00:10:39
Cokeley Brothers
ah That's that's I mean, that's such a nightmare.
00:10:41
Reese
Irrelevant.
00:10:42
Ryne
Yep.
00:10:42
Cokeley Brothers
That's such a nightmare. You have these these deals these contracts with these big um Venues and and everything that goes into that and you you have I mean this type this type of stuff is there's a reason it happens years in advance, right?
00:10:54
Cokeley Brothers
yeah I don't know if they can really Turn on a dime like that Like what green was was big on it, right?
00:10:54
Ryne
We're. ah Regardless, regardless, like what, why does it matter? What, why does, how are the two mute? The two should be mutually exclusive, right?
00:11:03
Reese
What coaches ah were saying that?
00:11:08
Ryne
Scott Green was big on it.
00:11:08
Reese
This green guy, this guy had his opinions.
00:11:09
Cokeley Brothers
I
00:11:10
Ryne
Kevin Ward, Kevin Ward, Kevin Ward also said something about it.
00:11:14
Cokeley Brothers
I just, I don't, I mean, yeah, I don't really get the correlation and I just don't get how it's feasible and how, I mean, if you make that process of having NCAA is more of a headache for anybody else outside of the sport.
00:11:27
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, that's just, that's not good for the sport. I don't think so.
00:11:30
Reese
Yeah, that's dumb.
00:11:33
Ryne
There's not a, what's the closest NCAA team to Kansas city.
00:11:39
Cokeley Brothers
Missouri, ah that are, that are Nebraska.
00:11:40
Ryne
It has to be right.
00:11:41
Reese
Yeah.
00:11:41
Ryne
Or maybe, maybe Nebraska.
00:11:42
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:11:43
Reese
kind of It's gotta to be Missouri.
00:11:45
Cokeley Brothers
Let's say Missouri though.
00:11:46
Reese
Cause that's like a two an hour, not even two hours.
00:11:48
Ryne
But then my, my point is, is like, it shouldn't matter.
00:11:51
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:11:53
Reese
Yeah.
00:11:54
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Let's get into some of the actual wrestling match dual results.
Wrestling Highlights and Controversies
00:11:59
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, first I got, first one I have on there is Oklahoma state taken out the university of Northern Iowa.
00:12:05
Cokeley Brothers
They beat them 22 to 14. This is the closest tool that Oklahoma state has had all year. Uh, and there were some, I think notable results on both sides of, uh, this duel.
00:12:16
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Spratly took out Trevor Anderson, Julian Farber took out Kale Hughes. Uh, Kale Hapel beats taking, tagging Jamison. Uh, Colin real Buddha takes out Carter young and then Caleb fish takes out writer down.
00:12:31
Cokeley Brothers
That's a big, the first big upset Apple taken out Jamison. I mean, that's kind of a coin flip match.
00:12:36
Ryne
And then most your sports beat Apple.
00:12:36
Cokeley Brothers
Um,
00:12:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And most of the shorts be Apple and then also Frost beat Jamison it. So 41 is a little bit of a mess in that tier. Um, and, and then, yeah,
00:12:49
Reese
Jacob Frost that's what I thought But at least I mean man Jacob Frost he's looking good so
00:12:53
Cokeley Brothers
it's, I mean, what does that do?
00:12:53
Ryne
He's coming on.
00:12:57
Cokeley Brothers
Cause it's, it's Echimendia trying to be one 41 this year. Is that going on?
00:13:03
Ryne
Who knows?
00:13:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:13:09
Cokeley Brothers
Right, yeah, that's a really good win. um Yeah, real Budo taking out Young, I think this was the one with the contentious takedown in this duel, right?
00:13:22
Cokeley Brothers
I think, I wanna say yes, or maybe it was Jamison Hapel.
00:13:25
Ryne
Yeah. No, I mean, it was, it was the real bit.
00:13:30
Cokeley Brothers
Going out of bounds, he had the ankle secured.
00:13:31
Ryne
Yeah.
00:13:34
Reese
and It wasn't it they didn't call it a takedown or it was I thought it I Thought ah so I saw a screenshot of it and I was like that is clearly a takedown Wasn't his foot in bounds?
00:13:34
Cokeley Brothers
Eh.
00:13:36
Cokeley Brothers
I think they reviewed it and they didn't call it a takedown.
00:13:43
Ryne
Well, screenshots, screenshots are tricky.
00:13:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, you can't, you got a factor in reaction time.
00:13:46
Reese
But I mean he's got his ankles his feet are inbound Yeah, do they drag out is that I guess is I guess that's true
00:13:50
Cokeley Brothers
His hands are on the mat.
00:13:50
Ryne
Yeah, but there's, but then, but was his feet in bounds long enough for reaction time?
00:13:57
Ryne
Yeah. see I mean, dude, let me tell you something.
00:13:58
Cokeley Brothers
We need to.
00:14:00
Ryne
Let me just get this off my chest. Bringing back reaction time in those situations was a mistake, a huge mistake.
00:14:07
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. You just gotta have, you just gotta have cut and dry. This is a take down. This isn't a take down. I don't care if you reacted fast enough or not. You shouldn't have been in that position. That that's.
00:14:15
Reese
Dude, I think it's fine bro. I think like high school doesn't have this issue Just use common sense I Don't think that's because of the rule I think that's just so I think that was a bad idea
00:14:15
Ryne
I mean, I'm going to go ahead.
00:14:18
Ryne
It's not though. It's not though. It's not though. It's not though, because there's too much judgment, Reese. And I mean that, that takedown that they didn't give, they didn't give Chitim and, or they didn't give fish and in that Chitim match. Like that's that was terrible.
00:14:34
Ryne
No, it's because it's it's because reaction time is judgment, dude. There's no, there's no.
00:14:39
Cokeley Brothers
You're giving these refs and out and the out the refs are going to take the easy way out every time.
00:14:43
Ryne
Yeah. I mean, and then you go back and review it and you still don't call it a takedown.
00:14:46
Reese
i Just yeah I think that's an outlier.
00:14:49
Ryne
It was crazy. That's crazy.
00:14:50
Reese
I just I don't know man Yeah, I mean I Didn't mind reaction time or no reaction time with the rear standing position but people just hated it dude and like And we get ah get rid of it, and then suddenly it's like, oh, why did we get rid of this?
00:14:52
Ryne
No, it just, I mean, dude, ah especially from a, from a fan it's perspective, like a casual fan, like it's cut and dry.
00:14:54
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe.
00:15:00
Ryne
It was cut and dry before. Now you've introduced judgment, which is confusing for cash casuals.
00:15:20
Ryne
and does It doesn't, well, I, who hated it though, honestly, cause I, I thought it was fine.
00:15:20
Reese
like I don't know. I feel like people,
00:15:25
Ryne
I was like, this is, this is exactly what we needed. We needed something that was black and white.
00:15:27
Reese
that's what I, yeah, I mean, i didn't I didn't hate it for sure.
00:15:31
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:15:32
Reese
But I definitely heard like, I mean, there's a reason they changed the world to begin with. There was obvious like,
00:15:37
Ryne
Yeah. Those were, those were, those were sad boy hour people. I don't know if there's reaction time here, then maybe they wouldn't have, maybe my guy that I wanted to win wouldn't have, would have won instead of lost. You know what I mean?
00:15:49
Reese
Yeah, but it was like I feel like Ben Askren didn't like no reaction time like probably all those guys, you know Yeah, Ethan Something Ethan writer
00:15:56
Cokeley Brothers
I think also this is this is the situation was, um, It was Max Dean against, um who was it? Do we remember? Writer kid, right? Or Ethan.
00:16:18
Cokeley Brothers
Um, yeah, whoever it was. So he he gets through standing and then Max Dean tumbles forward, right?
00:16:22
Reese
he said
00:16:25
Cokeley Brothers
Just basically just as a somersault forward while in rear standing and they're saying, Oh, well the hand touched like the back of his hand touched as he went down towards the mat. So that's a takedown. I guess I get it.
00:16:35
Cokeley Brothers
So now we're getting into like a weird, like, well, what, what is contact with the mat, right?
00:16:39
Reese
What's rear standing
00:16:41
Ryne
Well, I was fine.
00:16:41
Cokeley Brothers
What's rear standing? What's.
00:16:42
Ryne
They kind of, I felt like last year, they kind of fixed that, right? Where it's like, all right, well, if they're, if they're headed in for a role, like you give them time to wrestle, if they're trying to roll through a takedown, you give them a little bit of time there.
00:16:52
Cokeley Brothers
Um, I, yeah.
00:16:54
Ryne
But if their hand is, if their hand clearly touches like in the Chittim match and the Chittim fish match, then it's, it was three. There's a takedown.
00:17:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I think, I think, I think this is just a, a, a ref not properly using the rule. I think that's what it is.
00:17:07
Reese
yeah Because that was so obvious that was so obviously a takedown I mean the I feel like any high school ref is gonna call that a takedown Because most of them just call them prematurely anyway Yeah Could it be home cooking
00:17:08
Ryne
Yeah. But that, that.
00:17:11
Ryne
Yeah.
00:17:12
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:17
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:17:17
Ryne
probably You're probably right.
00:17:18
Cokeley Brothers
At first I was like, I was like,
00:17:19
Ryne
You're probably right. Yeah.
00:17:23
Cokeley Brothers
Did I miss the take down? And the like the commentary is like, no take down yet. And then they review it and no take down.
00:17:28
Ryne
Dude. And then the re and then they review it and still say no takedown. That's just absolutely pathetic.
00:17:32
Cokeley Brothers
Pretty bad. It's pretty bad. Uh, maybe a little bit.
00:17:37
Ryne
Uh, yeah, it was.
00:17:40
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Well, back half of this duel, uh, not quite as. Exciting. Uh, Jack Thompson or Camamine majors, Jack Thompson, Dean Hamany majors, Jared Sima, kick, Eisen majors plot.
00:17:54
Cokeley Brothers
I think that's the widest margin of victory he's had against plot.
00:17:58
Ryne
Man, this weekend, Camamine really, really, really looked like Will the Wan.
00:17:58
Cokeley Brothers
Uh,
00:18:03
Reese
He did look like willow on bro.
Analysis of Iowa vs. Ohio State Duel
00:18:05
Ryne
No, he didn't!
00:18:05
Reese
I That's what I'm saying he didn't look like him I Didn't ever say he looks like I didn't I never said he it's turned into the new well one I said he was always like willow on But yeah, this this would and this would imply that he isn't like willow on but you know, maybe that's David Taylor more than I
00:18:06
Ryne
He was putting points up like crazy compared to Will.
00:18:10
Cokeley Brothers
he didn't, didn't know this is.
00:18:10
Ryne
Oh, I thought you said you did. I thought you said you did.
00:18:22
Cokeley Brothers
this This is better. This is better than...
00:18:27
Cokeley Brothers
This is this is above his his it's above his average scoring percentage ah these last two matches were.
00:18:34
Reese
and will one got majors come on and also will one didn't get the three point takedown sorry well given three points and maybe he he likes to score more for this all
00:18:34
Ryne
He did, he did, he did cut the guy.
00:18:39
Ryne
Wait, how many majors? You could probably count the number of majors he had on one hand in his entire career.
00:18:46
Cokeley Brothers
Who?
00:18:50
Ryne
We thought that last year and it was not the case. We literally thought that maybe that he would open up more.
00:18:54
Reese
he was all the shit at that point right is that in his ways
00:18:59
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, he was pretty old. um
00:19:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, Luke's server takes out why Volker four to three and why Henderson texts Lance Runyon. So but yeah, I mean, this was this is a great duel.
00:19:15
Ryne
Man, great duel. And honestly, like you, Hapel wins at 57 and Volker wins at 97 and they win that duel. And those were both winnable matches for, in that duel for you and I.
00:19:29
Cokeley Brothers
What was the first one?
00:19:30
Reese
Downie he said Volca What a hell man what do you gotta do what are you doing this for?
00:19:31
Ryne
I meant Downey, my bad, my bad. Downey, if Downey wins and, uh, Volker wins, they win that, they win that duel.
00:19:37
Cokeley Brothers
Folker, yeah.
00:19:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah. Yep, that's true. ah Will Luan had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
00:19:49
Ryne
Oh, I can't believe you're actually counting.
00:19:53
Cokeley Brothers
He had nine majors in his collegiate career.
00:19:57
Ryne
Okay, so you could use two hands, two hands.
00:20:00
Reese
two hands bro now give him the three-point takedown and also will the one what what is that how did how do you know that's not what I okay yeah he was bad last year though dude how did he do I mean he did not finish like
00:20:01
Cokeley Brothers
Two hands. He had one major with the three point takedown. He had one. He had one major with the three point takedown.
00:20:22
Ryne
He ran a 12, right?
00:20:23
Cokeley Brothers
He was a national qualifier. No, he went one and two.
00:20:26
Ryne
girl
00:20:26
Reese
bro He wasn't he's not the thing is is he's not as good as came a mean or I mean he certainly wasn't last year He has been like good at points Hey,
00:20:38
Ryne
Kim wasn't very good last year either.
00:20:38
Cokeley Brothers
i Uh, yeah, let me, let me correct myself.
00:20:40
Ryne
He was injured a lot.
00:20:40
Reese
I mean was also not very good But that's a guy who's never lost to like Dean humidity he's been Shane Griff I think he probably has a ah a winning record against Shane Griffith and
00:20:43
Ryne
He was banged up last year.
00:20:55
Cokeley Brothers
He only had seven major decisions. Two of them were losses by a major decision.
00:20:58
Reese
Shut your mouth, Sammy.
00:21:00
Cokeley Brothers
Sorry. I just want to make sure I'm getting my facts straight.
00:21:04
Ryne
Oh.
00:21:05
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, and tech falls, he had two, three, four. He had four tech falls. He never got tech. It's a good defensive wrestler.
00:21:17
Ryne
Well, he clearly.
00:21:19
Cokeley Brothers
Clearly.
00:21:20
Reese
Clickly!
00:21:20
Ryne
Clearly.
00:21:23
Cokeley Brothers
All right. Iowa takes out Ohio state.
00:21:27
Ryne
It was also a great duel.
00:21:27
Cokeley Brothers
This dual, I might argue was, was better even. Uh, Joey Cruz takes out Brenda McCrone. This is probably the upset of the duel, right?
00:21:40
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, McCrone has been pretty consistent this year and to lose to Joey Cruz.
00:21:43
Ryne
i would say I would say so. and But Joey's coming on, man.
00:21:47
Reese
Yeah.
00:21:47
Ryne
He's looking better and better with each outing.
00:21:48
Cokeley Brothers
That was, that was a good sign.
00:21:49
Ryne
I've been super impressed with Joey.
00:21:50
Reese
This is a guy, I'm pretty sure Joey Cruz, he's like had multiple wins over Richie Figgs in high school. He was he was really good.
00:21:57
Ryne
He did.
00:21:59
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. He's seven and five so far this year. Um, I mean, not really, hasn't really been blown out in any of his matches. So yeah, he's, he's not bad. I mean, his first match out was a seven three loss to maximum entry. Like he's, he's not a bad wrestler, but to, to get a win over Brenda McCrone, that's good. Uh, Ben Devino texts, key in Hernandez, Jesse Mendez texts writer block. Kyle parko takes out Dylan D'Amelio, Jacory Teamer, Teamer takes out Sammy Sasso. Um,
00:22:31
Reese
That one was sad.
00:22:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, i I mean, we we know that.
00:22:35
Ryne
Dude, I was not, I honestly was expecting Sammy to win that match. I was like, I'm not sure Jacory coming back. Is he, is it too early? Is Sam, is this the moment where Sammy kind of like comes back to form?
00:22:48
Ryne
Nope.
00:22:48
Reese
No, not even close.
00:22:50
Ryne
No.
00:22:50
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, I think I mean, to Cory Cory looked, I'm not going to I'm not going to say to Cory look great.
00:22:52
Ryne
Wrong. Wrong.
00:22:57
Cokeley Brothers
He looked good.
00:22:58
Reese
I mean, you look pretty great.
00:22:58
Cokeley Brothers
um I think the sasso.
00:22:59
Ryne
I thought he would, I thought he looked pretty good against a savvy. I mean, don't get me wrong. Sammy Sasso is still savvy. He's still hard to wrestle.
00:23:06
Reese
yeah
00:23:07
Ryne
So hard to take down.
00:23:07
Reese
Yeah.
00:23:08
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah, I just I saw one. I saw one shot. And I mean, maybe it's teamers proficiency at finishing, especially something like a double leg.
00:23:21
Cokeley Brothers
But it
00:23:23
Reese
Did he blew his doers off?
00:23:24
Cokeley Brothers
just he but he like there was no fight post shot. And like, that's that's yeah, that's I mean, and that's that's his wheelhouse.
00:23:28
Reese
Are you talking about the double egg?
00:23:31
Ryne
The double, the single.
00:23:32
Cokeley Brothers
It's hard to do that in ah in a double though.
00:23:33
Reese
Dude his little uh, it went like head head snap or like hypersnap or whatever to the outside trip Little shuck, it's not really a shot.
00:23:38
Ryne
I call it a, I call it a shock.
00:23:46
Ryne
It was
00:23:46
Reese
I mean it is kind of a shock But he's so fast so so fast and then he hit that hit that hit toss For no points, but it was cool
00:23:47
Cokeley Brothers
I get what you mean, I get what you mean, yeah. um
00:23:52
Ryne
cool.
00:23:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was cool. ah
00:24:00
Ryne
I was actually impressed with Carson Karchula as well.
00:24:04
Reese
yeah
00:24:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So I want, I want to get onto that. Uh, Caliendo takes out Patty Gallagher, major decision. Harchala takes out Patrick Kennedy, seven three.
00:24:11
Reese
Yeah.
00:24:12
Cokeley Brothers
And this is like, this is a really good sign for, for Harchala. Like I don't dock the way Kennedy wrestled like at all. I think he, I think he wrestled good. He's just Harchala looks, looks tough.
00:24:22
Ryne
I think car Carson was better the day that day. Yeah.
00:24:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:24:26
Reese
Kennedy, I mean, yeah, he never looks, I feel like he's, he's super consistent. So like that was a big one.
00:24:31
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. So that's a good sign for Carson. Hopefully he can just stay healthy for the rest of the year. And then we get prime Carson in the postseason. And I mean, he's finished on the podium before he's, he's good.
00:24:43
Reese
an interesting wrinkle.
00:24:45
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Like, what, what does he able to do against the top three? I don't know. So I want to see that. Uh, Gabe Arnold takes out red or got ski, a sudden victory match. I think, uh, one that he just had to get over the hump on.
00:24:56
Cokeley Brothers
He, he lost to regards key twice back in 2021. Um, and so he's just, he needed to get that wind under his belt. Might've given him a little bit of extra confidence in the post-dual conference.
00:25:09
Cokeley Brothers
he He calls out Penn State. He said, next week, book it, all that stuff and the um we'll see how it goes.
00:25:18
Ryne
Did you see, did you see storachi's replies today?
00:25:18
Cokeley Brothers
um Oh yeah, yeah, he was like, I thought i thought his teammate was was the guy. and he didnt Who took first at the Soldier Salute? Didn't he not win that tournament?
00:25:27
Ryne
Yeah.
00:25:29
Cokeley Brothers
It's basically what he was saying.
00:25:29
Reese
Oh, that's good.
00:25:30
Ryne
No, it was, there was, they were honestly, it was like very, like the most professional and tactful way Carter could have like possibly done it.
00:25:31
Cokeley Brothers
It's good.
00:25:41
Reese
Didn't talk about his horny levels or anything.
00:25:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Is shaft growing a little bit bigger or anything?
00:25:44
Ryne
Nothing. and Yeah.
00:25:46
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:25:46
Ryne
Nothing like that.
00:25:48
Cokeley Brothers
Nope.
00:25:50
Cokeley Brothers
Steven Buchanan texts Seth Schumate and Ben Keeter takes up Nick Feldman. Also, great result.
00:25:55
Ryne
Oh, that is the upset of the duel, in my opinion.
00:25:56
Cokeley Brothers
It could be. It could be.
Ben Keeter's Victory and Future Implications
00:26:01
Reese
This is a weird match.
00:26:01
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yeah, cause because Keeter loses to Luffman. And it's like, oh, like, what's... but I don't know what to think, right? I don't know what to think of Luftman.
00:26:10
Reese
Well, Loughman's good.
00:26:11
Cokeley Brothers
I don't really, yeah, but is he like the the expectation for Keter is like quickly rising up to, to this top four type of guy.
00:26:19
Reese
Yeah.
00:26:20
Ryne
Yeah, they wanted him.
00:26:21
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, right.
00:26:21
Ryne
They thought he was going to be top four right away this year.
00:26:24
Cokeley Brothers
the The, the debate or the, the conversation at the beginning of the year was you're full time into wrestling. You're not even, you're not focused on any other sports in anything else. And so we're going to see this rapid progression.
00:26:35
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, but then you lose to Luffman and you've also a little bit of a slower start. Um, not, you know, blowing dudes out of, out of matches or anything. So to lose a Luffman, it's like, okay, that's a little bit of a head scratcher.
00:26:47
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, but then take, taking out Nick Feldman, Feldman's and I don't think Feldman's a hundred percent, but that's still a good one. So I, well, he got injured at the CKLV and I just, I don't think he, I don't think he's quite where he's going to be in the postseason is what I'm saying.
00:26:53
Ryne
I didn't know that. Okay. I see what you're saying.
00:27:03
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Uh, okay. That was Iowa taken out Ohio state 24 to 13. Uh, next Oklahoma state taken out Iowa state.
00:27:16
Cokeley Brothers
This one also phenomenal. Um, we talked, it we talked about it a little bit already.
00:27:20
Ryne
Yes and no.
00:27:24
Ryne
It was kind of a, I mean, there were some snoozers, you know, low scoring snoozers, but overall could do.
00:27:24
Cokeley Brothers
Oklahoma states.
00:27:28
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. So. Right, Troy Spratly majors, Ethan Perriman 20 to 10 shootout. Perriman got the first two takedowns and Spratly had to climb out of that a little bit, but it was, um that was a good match from start to finish. Evan Frost takes out Reese Whitcraft. I think it was off the off the, he got a turn on top, right?
00:27:54
Ryne
Yeah. He, I mean, take down pretty much right into a turn. It was, and that's what you got to do right at that level.
00:27:58
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, dude.
00:28:00
Reese
A little tilt.
00:28:01
Ryne
Like that's, that's the best time. Yeah. Roll through tilt, baby. He was, I mean, right off the take and when the guy was still a little bit relaxed and yeah.
00:28:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So.
00:28:09
Cokeley Brothers
Before that, in the first period, ah witchcraft moves so fast. His his level change and and lateral movement was I'm like, this guy can this guy should be able, if he can rest like that for seven minutes, he should be able to compete with so many people.
00:28:23
Ryne
He's the guy in my opinion for them at one 33.
00:28:25
Cokeley Brothers
I think I think he's going to be. Yeah.
00:28:27
Ryne
I, I, I think so too, but I mean, you know, and you got, you got Kale Hughes, who is he's savvy as well. He just, I think he needs to, once Kale is fully healed, his shoulder, he's going to be a really hard guy to beat in my opinion.
00:28:41
Ryne
But right now he's, he's still a little bit banged up and Reese, I think is just hungry to get on the podium, man.
00:28:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:28:47
Cokeley Brothers
Mm hmm. I agree with that. Frost is tough. 133, 133 is shaping up to be a bit of a weird, a bit of a weird weight. Crook can be an injured, nobody being consistently the top guy. Bird wrestling matches that are too close. Ayala might.
00:29:06
Cokeley Brothers
Ayla might be the the number one guy. ah but Romney's undefeated, but he hasn't wrestled at all of his competitions.
00:29:09
Reese
Thank you.
00:29:11
Ryne
No, he's not. Romney is Romney got beat by Tyler Knox in
00:29:13
Cokeley Brothers
Who'd he lose to?
00:29:14
Reese
Nox.
00:29:16
Cokeley Brothers
Ah, who when did he lose to him?
00:29:19
Ryne
a duel.
00:29:21
Cokeley Brothers
Must've been, right?
00:29:22
Ryne
It was, I looked it up.
00:29:23
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, okay. So romney's Romney's not even undefeated, and Knox took out... um
00:29:33
Ryne
What's the word on, on Crookum?
00:29:33
Cokeley Brothers
he
00:29:34
Ryne
Is he, or is he not wrestling?
00:29:37
Cokeley Brothers
So Willie, Willie just talked about it. Uh, like they dropped him and bash dropped their latest episode like an hour before this. I listened to the very beginning of it. The expectation, the hope from the coaches.
00:29:47
Reese
you're like yeah
00:29:50
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Let me get the drop on this before I start recording. Uh, the, the hope and the expectation from the Lehigh coaches is, um, that he will be back. So it's inconclusive, but they're hopeful in late January.
00:30:03
Cokeley Brothers
So we'll see in a month and a half.
00:30:04
Ryne
So what do they do? If he's not back, do they bring in what's his name? Do they pull his red shirt?
00:30:10
Cokeley Brothers
Stanich?
00:30:11
Ryne
Yeah, cut him down to 33, pull his red shirt.
00:30:13
Cokeley Brothers
No, no, no.
00:30:14
Ryne
Reese is shaking his head no. Is he too big? Is he too big for 33 now even?
00:30:18
Cokeley Brothers
I don't, I don't think he's well.
00:30:20
Reese
I think it would be mean.
00:30:23
Cokeley Brothers
I just don't think that's the right thing to do.
00:30:23
Ryne
Would it be me?
00:30:24
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, you don't, you know, you shouldn't pull somebody's shirt for post-season like that.
00:30:24
Reese
Pause, I don't know.
00:30:24
Ryne
Why? Why?
00:30:29
Reese
And make him go down.
00:30:31
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're holding their cards for next year. They've made that obvious.
00:30:35
Ryne
What is Stan? All right. Yeah, that's true. All right.
00:30:38
Cokeley Brothers
So, yeah.
00:30:38
Ryne
I'll just shut up. I'm just going to shut up now.
00:30:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, just shut up.
00:30:41
Reese
Okay, okay, I'll talk back in.
00:30:42
Ryne
Big, big Luke Stanich guy. That's all I'm saying.
00:30:45
Cokeley Brothers
But i dude, I like Luke Stanich, but I think he'll be good.
00:30:46
Ryne
Right here. This guy.
00:30:48
Cokeley Brothers
hell I think it'd be great at 141 next year.
00:30:50
Reese
Yet you want him to cut weights.
00:30:52
Ryne
I just thought maybe if Crookum was out, maybe that might be an option, an option. and option
00:30:59
Cokeley Brothers
I guess you can't rule it out. You can't rule it out. I just don't expect it. And I wouldn't want to do it if I was the coach.
00:31:02
Ryne
Especially, I mean, he wrestles well, he could, I mean, would would we say that Luke Stanich couldn't win it at 133?
00:31:10
Reese
I think he can win it, for sure.
00:31:11
Ryne
He could. He could.
00:31:13
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, because yourre your guys at the weight right now are Knox, Romney, Ayala, Frost, and Nasir Bailey, kind of.
00:31:21
Ryne
Frost.
00:31:26
Ryne
Yes and no.
00:31:26
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe, maybe not. Yes and no.
00:31:28
Ryne
Depends on which Naseerah shows up.
00:31:29
Cokeley Brothers
So, and i I mean, I guess Braden Davis.
00:31:31
Ryne
He has he has said that he's only been farting and we haven't seen shit yet. So.
00:31:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, ah Lucas Bird, Dylan Shaver, maybe.
00:31:41
Ryne
Oh, I'm a big bird fan, too.
00:31:44
Cokeley Brothers
Bird's just A's wrestling too tight for me.
00:31:47
Reese
Illinois as a team is not looking so good right now if it's making me sad I
00:31:47
Ryne
That's how we always wrestle.
00:31:52
Ryne
I know, I know.
00:31:52
Cokeley Brothers
They're just, well, we'll get, we'll get there. We'll get there. I have their, their duel with Rutgers queued up next. Uh, back half of the duel, Cameron Amine takes out Aiden Riggins, Hammity, Tex, Guy Ton, plot majors, Bachman, server beats Sawyer Bartlett.
00:32:09
Cokeley Brothers
There was an injury. Ryan, you were there.
00:32:12
Ryne
soft day, soft, soft day, soft day.
00:32:12
Cokeley Brothers
Bad or?
00:32:19
Ryne
That's all I'm going to say.
00:32:20
Cokeley Brothers
All right. Uh, and then Wyatt Hendrickson gets a tech fall in the next, in the the final match to wrap things up 27 12.
00:32:27
Ryne
How are you going to how are you going to how are you going to injury default out of a match and then go to the middle and start talking shit?
00:32:33
Reese
so what did he say
00:32:34
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, wait, wait, what happened?
00:32:35
Reese
or what it
00:32:35
Ryne
I don't know what he said. He just, he just, they, and he injured default. He burns a second injured time and dresser pulls him and then he goes to the middle and it's John. I don't know what he's saying. I was, I was.
00:32:47
Ryne
Uh, whatever. I couldn't hear them, but he, you could see that he was like pissed off and John him back to, I mean, and and then everyone in the crowd, all Iowa state people are booing server because at one point in time, he grabbed the hurt leg. Like, dude, what the, what do you want him to do? He's wrestling.
00:33:08
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's the exact idea. So for a long time.
00:33:13
Ryne
Salty, salty cyclones.
00:33:15
Reese
Bo nickel wouldn't like that you said that So he so he's a cyclone fan and obviously no no I came across his tweets.
00:33:16
Ryne
Especially. Especially you, Zach Bogle, Mr. Stalemates, just a salty cyclone fan. You are. Oh dude, he, no, not now.
00:33:27
Reese
I was like, oh well, I didn't know that Yeah Yeah, I didn't know I did not know that he was affiliated or whatever Then I found out is he live over there or around there?
00:33:27
Ryne
He, he, he, he has been, he has been for, yeah, stalemates.
00:33:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:33:34
Ryne
Yeah.
00:33:35
Cokeley Brothers
For a long time.
00:33:39
Cokeley Brothers
I think he's just just to make a fan. Yeah.
00:33:44
Reese
I
00:33:44
Ryne
Yeah, he does.
00:33:44
Cokeley Brothers
I think he does, doesn't he?
00:33:44
Ryne
I think he lives in Des Moines. I'm pretty sure he lives in Des Moines.
00:33:48
Cokeley Brothers
There you go.
00:33:49
Ryne
cuts hair into mine somewhere.
00:33:52
Cokeley Brothers
ah All right. Next duel, Rutgers takes out Illinois in a ah fun one, 16 to 15.
Rutgers vs. Illinois Wrestling Duel Overview
00:34:00
Cokeley Brothers
ah Starting it off.
00:34:02
Cokeley Brothers
Dean Peterson takes out Kaitlyn Riley, Lucas bird beats Dylan Shaver six to five. Joey Oliveri beats Danny Pacino eight to four. Kenny Webster beats Andrew Clark, almost a major, but couldn't quite get, uh, couldn't quite get the full eight points.
00:34:15
Ryne
Hmm.
00:34:19
Cokeley Brothers
Connor hair beats Jason Kraser. Connor hair is a true freshmen. Uh, he's one to keep an eye on.
00:34:27
Ryne
Legit.
00:34:28
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So.
00:34:29
Ryne
And he's got a younger brother who's, who's just as good, if not better.
00:34:33
Cokeley Brothers
Right. And the the the one of the key points when he was wrestling is he's he's a leg rider. He's he's got some stuff to to work with on top. So ah that could be a real.
00:34:45
Ryne
I would like, thank you.
00:34:45
Cokeley Brothers
Was that.
00:34:45
Reese
He's calling a time out.
00:34:47
Ryne
Thank you for bringing that up. I saw some hurr crazy tweets today from Scotty sentes Campbell coach.
00:34:53
Cokeley Brothers
OK, go ahead. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:56
Ryne
He wants to outlaw double boots power half.
00:35:00
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, I saw that. I saw that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:35:02
Ryne
He says, because it tears too many labrums.
00:35:03
Cokeley Brothers
Cause it torn labrum.
00:35:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:35:08
Cokeley Brothers
Get turned. Don't fight so hard.
00:35:11
Ryne
He's like, oh, and then the guys, the guys can't even roll over.
00:35:11
Reese
Get turned.
00:35:14
Ryne
Yes, actually they can.
00:35:15
Cokeley Brothers
You can, you can.
00:35:16
Ryne
You actually can.
00:35:17
Reese
Dude, you know what hurts me to watch though when they have the half and then they take the hand and they grab the wrist Bro like they they make they grab they like have their own wrist Not their own wrist, but their opponent's wrist Yeah, and I'm like dude it happened to one of the high school kids At Pike County and I couldn't remember who it was, but it was so bad.
00:35:23
Ryne
Mark Perry. Perry.
00:35:30
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:35:30
Ryne
Yep.
00:35:32
Cokeley Brothers
Right, like I'm stuck like this.
00:35:32
Ryne
Yes. Yeah.
00:35:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah.
00:35:41
Reese
I think it might have been will but I don't know
00:35:44
Ryne
I mean, if you want to,
Safety Debate in Wrestling Moves
00:35:45
Cokeley Brothers
Ouch.
00:35:45
Reese
It was well.
00:35:45
Ryne
if, if a guy is guys, if a guy is kicking and can't get it and can't get his arm free and can't roll over, fine.
00:35:52
Ryne
PD it and give them, give them the two imminent, but like we're not gonna, we're not going to outlaw wrestling moves. That's just dumb. What are we doing?
00:36:01
Reese
Outlaw!
00:36:01
Ryne
What are we doing?
00:36:03
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, yeah. i yeah that That's... I disagree with that, Scotty. But I mean, I watched...
00:36:10
Reese
I'm on the fence.
00:36:11
Cokeley Brothers
i When I was at Cornell, Freddy Stroker got his bicep torn from ah from Double Boots Power half from... Who's the kid from Lehigh? 157 pounder. ah We were talking about him, Jeff Humphries.
00:36:21
Ryne
That's our guy.
00:36:21
Reese
Humphries I Don't like the devil cool with that But I don't I want to say this I don't like the devil boots so, you know, I don't really you know, they take away a turn put the double boots and
00:36:24
Ryne
Humphries, that's our guy.
00:36:26
Cokeley Brothers
He just he just he got got the takedown, put in the Double Boots, put in that Power half and pretty much immediately just everything just ripped.
00:36:33
Ryne
The NCAA owes Josh Humphrey another year of eligibility, just saying.
00:36:33
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:36:41
Cokeley Brothers
Cool with that. All right.
00:36:52
Reese
Doesn't bother me.
00:36:55
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think that's, I just don't think it's the answer to make things on top more exciting.
00:36:57
Ryne
Yeah.
00:37:00
Reese
Ugh, top is never exciting, that's the problem.
00:37:02
Ryne
Okay.
00:37:03
Cokeley Brothers
But it could be.
00:37:04
Ryne
Okay, Bosch.
00:37:06
Reese
Certainly not exciting, yeah that is, that was a very bash taste take of me. But it's certainly not exciting when they have double boots in.
00:37:15
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, not wrong.
00:37:15
Ryne
It is if you know what you're doing.
00:37:18
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:37:18
Reese
and when you And it sucks, bro. It's just like, it's basically like, I don't know.
00:37:24
Cokeley Brothers
you're kind You're kind of watching somebody get tortured.
00:37:24
Reese
I mean guys can get out of it.
00:37:27
Ryne
I'd be okay with referees stalemating it a lot faster than they do. You know what I mean? I would totally be okay with that.
00:37:32
Cokeley Brothers
That's kind of fair.
00:37:33
Ryne
You you know, referees down there, maybe not do a ah ah hard, a hard, a loud count or whatever, but in your mind, like, yeah, don't do a hard count.
00:37:38
Cokeley Brothers
No, the hard counts kind of dumb.
00:37:42
Ryne
Just do, you know, in your mind, you're like, all right. Okay. All right. All right, stalemate. You're not doing nothing.
00:37:47
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:37:48
Ryne
He's defending. Let's get out of here.
00:37:50
Reese
He's grabbing his wrists? Alright, enough.
00:37:52
Cokeley Brothers
I think the hard count, I think the hard counts dumb for, for when they drop to an ankle or drop to a leg on top.
00:37:57
Reese
Well at this point it is, because it's game so heavily.
00:37:59
Cokeley Brothers
I think it's dumb because the, because that they'll sit there with the leg and watch the ref and they're like, Oh, okay. You're at four. Let me climb up the body. Like you what are we doing? I'm watching, I'm watching a kid stall, but he's working around the rules for the rest.
00:38:11
Cokeley Brothers
Like I can't call stalling. You can, but you're not gonna cause you're going to lean on the rules.
00:38:15
Ryne
A hard count. It's, it's really done whenever they just, whenever they've just gotten a takedown and their opponent is pushing them down to keep them from coming up on the hips and the referees down here. Like, like you're really, yeah I've seen, i've yes, it's becoming more and more popular, which is good.
00:38:25
Reese
Don't they just call stalemates now?
00:38:26
Cokeley Brothers
I've seen, I've seen stalemates a lot.
00:38:27
Reese
Yeah, they-
00:38:33
Ryne
But the fact, the fact that they were, we were doing it at all.
00:38:33
Cokeley Brothers
The right thing.
00:38:36
Ryne
It's like, you're really about to call stalling on a guy you just awarded two points to or three points to.
00:38:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, back to the duel. 165, Brayden Skulls beats Anthony White. Jackson Turley beats Danny Bronigal in a 4-1 match. it's very not That's not a Turley match. Normally, you see a lot of points.
00:38:59
Cokeley Brothers
Edmund Ruth takes out Shane Cartagena Walsh. That's a reversal of his lost to Brian Saldano earlier in the year. So Ruth kind of climbing back up, uh, the rankings a little bit.
00:39:09
Ryne
Saldana Saldana out and That's why I mean that's why I mean like I see is he He's the backup he's the number two
00:39:13
Cokeley Brothers
Walsh is just the starter. He's done better this year. So, Oh yeah. Yeah. It seems like it at least.
00:39:23
Cokeley Brothers
So that's what it, that's what it feels like. Uh, Zach Bronigold beats John Poznaลski four to two and then dual on the line. It's Yaroslav Slavikowski against Luke Luffman. And in sudden victories, the, the Slav gets the takedown to seal the wind for the wreckers for the Scarlet Knights who, um, earlier in the week they wrestled Penn state. Uh, and did you guys see that they had a guest?
00:39:52
Reese
Yeah.
00:39:53
Cokeley Brothers
They had a host. They had two guests, two, two notable guests.
00:39:57
Reese
Who's the other one?
00:39:57
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Rens Rens. So one, so one's Bo Bassett.
00:40:00
Ryne
um Yeah, I was waiting to see which one Reese was talking, which one Reese knew.
00:40:01
Reese
Oh.
00:40:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Rees, which one, which one are you talking about?
00:40:05
Reese
I was talking about the, uh, Rizzler.
00:40:08
Cokeley Brothers
ah The Rizzler.
00:40:08
Reese
I almost called him.
00:40:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:40:09
Reese
I almost said something else.
00:40:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. The Rizzler.
00:40:10
Ryne
I love the Rizzler. I love him so much.
00:40:14
Cokeley Brothers
I, anyway, I, I, so I saw an image and it's him wearing the red Rutgers Rutgers wrestling is a boom or something like that.
00:40:24
Ryne
how
00:40:25
Cokeley Brothers
And I'm just like, is this an AI generated image? I like, I, I don't under, and then I found out hes he was actually at the dual and it like cuts to him in the center of the mat doing his little thing. I'm just like, this but can't be, well, okay.
00:40:37
Cokeley Brothers
This is cool.
00:40:38
Ryne
why I think it's awesome.
00:40:38
Cokeley Brothers
All right. That's fine. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool.
00:40:40
Reese
I'm a Jersey hater, bro. and I don't know, dude.
00:40:43
Cokeley Brothers
No, they, they do it.
00:40:43
Reese
I just...
00:40:44
Cokeley Brothers
They do it well. I'm not going to say that they do it right, but they do it well.
00:40:47
Reese
Yeah, they do what they do well.
00:40:47
Cokeley Brothers
They have, they have one of the, one of the,
00:40:48
Reese
They have fun.
00:40:50
Ryne
Johnny DeJulius, Johnny DeJulius said that they're like, they're the greatest, the best team when it comes to marketing their duels.
00:40:52
Reese
I know.
00:40:56
Reese
That tweet triggered me for some reason, bro.
00:41:00
Ryne
You know what it did, it did to me at first and then I was reading it.
00:41:00
Cokeley Brothers
ah That breakers If you
00:41:03
Ryne
I read it again and I was like, he's right.
00:41:07
Reese
I don't know.
00:41:07
Ryne
He's right though.
00:41:07
Reese
I think... I just...
00:41:08
Ryne
He's right though.
00:41:08
Reese
ah No, like you don't you don't think, yeah like you said, you and I, I feel like that's pretty close to the same.
00:41:16
Ryne
No, you're, you're.
00:41:16
Reese
Nebraska is another team that's not, they've never won a championship, have they?
00:41:21
Cokeley Brothers
If you take, if you take a team and you compare their ranking to their attendance, I think Rutgers has shown that they're consistently getting people getting butts in seats, regardless of who they're up against or where they're at on the national scene. They've, they've, and they've scaled up quite quickly. So.
00:41:38
Reese
Yeah.
00:41:39
Ryne
They're marketing geniuses. They know how to, you know, they know what they're doing. They know it's like,
00:41:42
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, they're Jersey people appealing to the Jersey people.
00:41:42
Reese
i just
00:41:44
Cokeley Brothers
It's going to, we're family.
00:41:44
Reese
I'm getting really sensitive to the east coast, northeast bias bro. i'm just like it It was especially really like this last week with the bills, it was just really getting to me.
00:41:57
Cokeley Brothers
Hmm.
00:41:58
Reese
I was just like, out these east coast people, they're out of control bro.
00:42:02
Ryne
ah that's funny.
00:42:03
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yes. I think, so Rutgers is really interesting right now because I don't, in the past, I, the way I would describe their Their performance as a team, and I think that this is a reflection of their of the culture that you see, is inconsistent, right?
00:42:23
Cokeley Brothers
You have guys like John Posnanski, who was an All-American, he took fourth place. He was having sudden victory matches with Trent Heidle, and looked very promising, and hasn't made the podium since.
00:42:34
Cokeley Brothers
Brian Saldano, who was dangerous against everybody, and then he's not in the lineup this year. Jackson Turley, he's he's an All-American,
00:42:41
Ryne
Turley.
00:42:43
Cokeley Brothers
hasn't seen that since 2021. Dylan Shaver, he's able to beat Dylan Ragison one week and then get tech by him the next week. Um, Dean Peterson, he's, he's at 125.
00:42:52
Ryne
No, no, he.
00:42:53
Cokeley Brothers
So you give a little bit of a slack there.
00:42:55
Reese
Detect Dale Dragison.
00:42:55
Cokeley Brothers
So.
00:42:57
Ryne
Yeah, he teched Ragus in and then got beat by him two weeks later.
00:43:01
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Did he not get, I thought he got like majored or something like that. Didn't he?
00:43:05
Ryne
I don't know if it was a major, but it was, it it was a butt kicking. Yes.
00:43:08
Cokeley Brothers
I can, I can pull up the facts just to, that's
00:43:10
Ryne
But no, you're right.
00:43:11
Reese
You still aid.
00:43:12
Ryne
They got, they got, they got a consistency issues.
00:43:17
Cokeley Brothers
Right, that was a 9-3 loss. but And so, and I think...
00:43:19
Ryne
I mean, then, you know, you got, you got your national champ and Nick Suriano, and then he leaves and he leaves the program, you know?
00:43:25
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and well, I'm gonna put that more on Nick Suriano than them. He's he's just a nomad, so what are you gonna do?
00:43:31
Ryne
Sure.
00:43:32
Cokeley Brothers
But I think things are changing a little bit. um and And I think that if they, so based on the things that I've heard in the past, and I'm not going to say outright what I've heard, but it makes sense that I'm hearing like, Oh, they can't have the same performance year over year from these athletes because of the way things are, you know, being handled. Um, but if they're, they're, I mean, they're, they're pushing hard to get a guy like Bo Bassett. And if you're able to do that, you have to make some promises, some changes to the way, if you want to get a guy like that, your culture has to be.
00:44:08
Cokeley Brothers
yeah a particular way. And so if that's the case, and Bo Bassett will also help you define that culture, they're moving in the right direction. If that happens, they're they're a to a trophy contending team two years from now.
00:44:17
Reese
I think...
Bo Bassett's College Speculations
00:44:22
Ryne
So should we make guesses? Let's make early guesses on where we think Bo Bassett's going to go.
00:44:29
Ryne
Do you want to? We don't have to. I'd like to.
00:44:31
Reese
I will.
00:44:32
Ryne
Okay.
00:44:33
Reese
I actually feel pretty good about... i yeah You know what? I would love this for records, but I feel like like it might be them. And I think it would be cool. It would be awesome. As much as I was just poo-pooing on records.
00:44:45
Reese
It would be cool.
00:44:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I have my top three.
00:44:46
Ryne
Reese's Reese's saying Rutgers Sammy.
00:44:50
Ryne
No, give me your one.
00:44:51
Cokeley Brothers
um Okay, I'll say Ohio State.
00:44:55
Ryne
Give me your one mother effort.
00:44:56
Cokeley Brothers
I'll say Ohio State.
00:44:58
Ryne
That was my one.
00:45:01
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:45:01
Ryne
I, I, will say Oklahoma state since you said Ohio state.
00:45:02
Cokeley Brothers
but my right my My three were Rutgers, Ohio State, and Iowa.
00:45:06
Ryne
Cause I was kind of like me right there with both of them.
00:45:12
Cokeley Brothers
Those are the three that I think are are going to have the best shot. Um, well, because you, he, and he just talked to, he was on the beta show. He just talked about like Spencer Lee being like his, his idol.
00:45:23
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:45:24
Ryne
Yeah.
00:45:24
Cokeley Brothers
And if he wants to follow up that style and, and, you know, why, where better place can you go than to go where he went?
00:45:33
Ryne
I would love for him to go to Iowa, not, not because, you know, I live in Iowa and am kind of a Hawkeye fan now, but mostly because it was not, listen, I want him to go mostly because it would, I know it would just eat.
00:45:33
Cokeley Brothers
So you're a,
00:45:48
Ryne
It would just eat at Pat Mineo, dude. Just eat at him.
00:45:52
Reese
That'd be awesome for sure just go after the other the other guys
00:45:53
Ryne
He's got it. Then for the next, for the next four to five years, he's got to not say anything bad about Iowa. God, that would be awesome.
00:46:02
Cokeley Brothers
No, I think he's, I think he's still, he's still, he'll still say.
00:46:07
Cokeley Brothers
He'll go after the athletes and, and.
00:46:08
Ryne
You're going to go after, you're going to go after his teammates. Then you're, then you're going to get both, you know, sliding into your DMS or calling you on the phone, being like, Hey, uncle Pat, why don't I come up there and do to you what I, what I do to these other guys.
00:46:17
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:46:20
Ryne
Just wear you out.
00:46:20
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. Why don't we have a 5am workout?
00:46:23
Ryne
You better, you better stretch. Cause I'm going to wear you out.
00:46:29
Ryne
What's that from?
00:46:29
Reese
ah
00:46:30
Ryne
What's that from?
00:46:30
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Shane Gillis is a little skit, uh, when he's on the phone with the plane is crashing.
00:46:32
Ryne
yeah
00:46:36
Cokeley Brothers
Um, yeah, I don't know, man.
00:46:36
Ryne
I would love it.
00:46:41
Cokeley Brothers
Hey, Oklahoma. I really, and I think I'm saying, there's a couple of reasons.
00:46:42
Ryne
I just don't see it happening. I think he's going to Ohio state.
00:46:45
Reese
Why do you think he's going to Ohio State I I want to know why I feel like they're at the bottom of my list But I want to know why you think they're going
00:46:54
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:46:55
Ryne
Well, you know, cause we've heard, we've heard, we've heard rumors.
00:46:57
Cokeley Brothers
I'm not going to,
00:47:00
Ryne
There's rumors flying. We've heard it. We've heard rumors that, do we want to talk about it?
00:47:03
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:47:07
Cokeley Brothers
No, we don't know.
00:47:07
Ryne
No. Okay.
00:47:08
Reese
What?
00:47:08
Ryne
jay's this mouth
00:47:09
Cokeley Brothers
Well, no, we've we I've I've reason I will talk about it afterwards.
00:47:09
Ryne
and mr
00:47:12
Reese
Are you gonna ah you know like these sources?
00:47:13
Cokeley Brothers
We'll talk about it afterwards.
00:47:14
Ryne
I don't want to do that. No, let's not do this. We don't have to give up any sources whatsoever. Okay. We don't have to give up anything, but I hate it.
00:47:21
Cokeley Brothers
That.
00:47:22
Ryne
I hate it when, when on flow wrestling, when Christian piles would be like, Oh, we'll talk about it off air. I hated that. So we're not going to do that.
00:47:28
Reese
Yeah, I did not like that.
00:47:29
Ryne
We're not going to do that. Sammy. We've heard rumors that Bo Bassett is going to go to a school that will, is, will be willing to offer his dad.
00:47:42
Reese
oh yeah
00:47:43
Ryne
an assistant coaching position. His dad wants to be an assistant coach at a D1 school. And these are the rumors that we've heard, you know?
00:47:51
Reese
Yeah So What
00:47:52
Ryne
Do we know, do we, you know, we don't know if they're true or not. Okay.
00:47:57
Reese
does that have to do with Ohio State
00:47:57
Ryne
But well, let's talk about, let's talk.
00:48:01
Cokeley Brothers
Didn't you, didn't you yourself say Tom Ryan will do whatever it takes to beat Penn State?
00:48:03
Ryne
That was me.
00:48:05
Ryne
That was me. I said that.
00:48:07
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, I thought that was, I thought that was Reese.
00:48:09
Ryne
That was me, the 100% me. That's why I think Ohio state, because Tom Ryan will definitely put that man on staff. If it means equal be better than kale Sanderson.
00:48:22
Reese
God, it's so gross to be putting the put like dad on staff. I hate that.
00:48:22
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:48:27
Ryne
Well, let's just, let's just hope it's a rumor and that it's, you know, maybe, maybe it's not true.
00:48:28
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:48:28
Reese
I hate the and thought of that.
00:48:28
Cokeley Brothers
Well,
00:48:32
Reese
I mean, well, fit Derek Fix kind of got that treatment too, right?
00:48:36
Cokeley Brothers
I didn't, I didn't Ironman as well.
00:48:37
Ryne
No, but Derek, Derek.
00:48:38
Reese
But he he got to be sort of in the corner. Was he in the corner?
00:48:41
Ryne
or no, no, he was RTC guy.
00:48:41
Reese
ah No, he wasn't, right?
00:48:43
Ryne
You're our RTC guy.
00:48:43
Cokeley Brothers
RTC.
00:48:43
Reese
Yeah, okay.
00:48:45
Ryne
Same with Ironman RTC guy.
00:48:45
Cokeley Brothers
What about, okay.
00:48:45
Reese
That's different, I guess.
00:48:47
Cokeley Brothers
Ironman is RTC.
00:48:47
Ryne
Yeah.
00:48:48
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:48:49
Ryne
This would be unprecedented.
00:48:49
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:48:50
Ryne
This would stay. This would set a new standard probably for her.
00:48:54
Reese
It's feel so Whoever does it though if they if it happens then the new St.
00:48:54
Cokeley Brothers
Don't say, don't say set a new standard. I think this is a one-off. You are not going to have a boba asset for a while like again. You're just not.
00:49:05
Ryne
Maybe, maybe not.
00:49:07
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think so.
00:49:08
Ryne
But.
00:49:11
Reese
Thomas Aquinas It does a little bit you're here right
00:49:15
Cokeley Brothers
You know, Ohio State kind of feels like say Thomas Aquinas. Yeah.
00:49:20
Ryne
I would just, I mean, there and, you know, there's the rumor that Terry brands is retiring this year.
00:49:20
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:49:27
Ryne
So though there's going to be an assistant position opening up at Iowa.
00:49:28
Reese
oh yeah
00:49:31
Cokeley Brothers
i I don't think that's going to happen, though.
00:49:34
Ryne
I don't either. I see it happening at either Rutgers or Ohio state. Those are the two schools. I see it happening the most.
00:49:40
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. um
00:49:43
Ryne
I definitely, I definitely don't see it happening at Penn state. No way.
00:49:47
Reese
Yeah No shot dude No way bro, I would lose respect I would lose a lot of respect for kale if that happened
00:49:47
Ryne
Jose.
00:49:49
Cokeley Brothers
Zero, pretty much, I think. I don't know. Speaking of.
00:49:55
Ryne
I think, I think ah think Penn State's coming off the list here pretty soon.
00:49:57
Cokeley Brothers
Speaking of.
Wrestling Techniques and Strategies
00:50:01
Cokeley Brothers
Penn Penn State, speaking of that, the clip of from last year of Kale getting interviewed and the interviewer asking about like Do you think you're going to work with your guys to, to add more sequencing so that they can, they can finish their offense quicker or something like that.
00:50:18
Cokeley Brothers
And and he's just like, we would like to do that.
00:50:19
Ryne
Yeah.
00:50:22
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I'm like, this is i dude, Kale's great.
00:50:24
Ryne
sequencing. He said, you just remember, I just remember the guys saying sequencing and Kale's eyebrows are like, Hmm, sequencing.
00:50:35
Cokeley Brothers
He just starts nodding his head. He's like, yeah, this okay. Yeah. Sequencing. I'm with you. I'm with you. Yeah. You know, we would like to do that.
00:50:43
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:50:43
Ryne
Yeah.
00:50:43
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Um, next on the docket, notable upsets. Dean Peterson takes out Luke Lillard. All that's, uh, lightning Luke's probably.
00:50:52
Ryne
Probably the biggest subset of, of the weekend. Right.
00:50:56
Reese
Yes.
00:50:59
Ryne
Well, you had guys, you had, you had wrestling heads, you know, that were saying that Luke little doll might be one of the best freshmen or up there with one of the best fresh as one of the best freshmen ever.
00:50:59
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:51:10
Ryne
but blah blah blah
00:51:12
Reese
He had one guy in particular. He's the most qualified credentialed true freshman ever.
00:51:22
Reese
Some jerk off. I don't know what his name is.
00:51:23
Cokeley Brothers
He had to, he had to, he had to pay the kale tax. We know this.
00:51:26
Ryne
yes Just, just a Penn State Homer.
00:51:27
Cokeley Brothers
It's a thing.
00:51:31
Ryne
Even though he never didn't go there, has no affiliation with him whatsoever. Just what in what way?
00:51:37
Cokeley Brothers
There's, there's some affiliation.
00:51:40
Reese
But he didn't, yeah.
00:51:41
Cokeley Brothers
A lot, a lot of, a lot of business for, am I wrong?
00:51:44
Ryne
Oh, no, you're right.
00:51:47
Cokeley Brothers
I mean.
00:51:48
Reese
No, you're right, yeah.
00:51:49
Ryne
But it's us also, it's like, okay, that makes you affiliated. All right.
00:51:53
Cokeley Brothers
No, I would guess not affiliated, but that's going to like drive you to a bias, and that's totally fine.
00:51:59
Ryne
I did. He had the bias before, before it just, to I mean, like, how do you take the guy seriously?
00:52:01
Reese
It's fine, but it's ah it's it's also just like nauseating.
00:52:07
Ryne
How do you take the guy seriously? Ah, they're going to blink Nebraska. You you're, you're a joke. You're a joke.
00:52:15
Reese
Yeah man, come on, just like chill.
00:52:17
Ryne
However, they might blink Iowa this weekend. If Drake, Iowa doesn't wrestle, they, they might blink Iowa.
00:52:23
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, if Draco doesn't wrestle.
00:52:23
Reese
Dude, Josh Barr, you really think Josh Barr can beat Buchanan?
00:52:27
Cokeley Brothers
Hey, well.
00:52:27
Ryne
Josh bar is my pick to win one 97.
00:52:33
Reese
Now I want Josh Barr to lose just because of how hard you are.
00:52:38
Cokeley Brothers
Uh.
00:52:38
Ryne
i would say Listen, at the beginning of the year, I was like, dude, he's going to be way too small for one 97. And then 22 points in two minutes on John Posnanski. I'm like, yeah, this guy, this guy is going to do it.
00:52:49
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, no, this is no, this is this is more.
00:52:51
Ryne
He's going to.
00:52:53
Cokeley Brothers
This is more of of a reflection on Posnanski. The guy wanted to get off the mat. I don't know if you watched it. I mean, there are so many clips of.
00:53:05
Cokeley Brothers
Of the the exchange in the third period and forty twelve points in 40 seconds.
00:53:07
Reese
The murder.
00:53:10
Cokeley Brothers
Posnanski wanted nothing to do with the mat in the third period.
00:53:13
Ryne
All takedowns, dude.
00:53:13
Cokeley Brothers
It was it was bad.
00:53:15
Ryne
Oh my goodness.
00:53:16
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. um
00:53:18
Ryne
It was impressive.
00:53:20
Cokeley Brothers
It was it was it was a good look.
00:53:20
Reese
I don't know.
00:53:21
Cokeley Brothers
It was a good look.
00:53:22
Reese
I mean it was good luck, yeah.
00:53:24
Cokeley Brothers
ah Okay, let me get through the rest of these here. Chris Minto takes out Bowman to Nona. Looking like he's the guy for record for Nebraska 165.
00:53:33
Ryne
No, he is the guy.
00:53:36
Cokeley Brothers
So
00:53:36
Ryne
He is the guy. My sources, my sources say that he's the man now.
00:53:40
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Uh, Ethan styles Oregon state. He had some upsets earlier in the year at one 57. Now he's down at one 49. He takes out Jordan Williams could be good for Oregon state. Um, just before this listening to Willie, he said this was, this was, I didn't know about this.
00:53:56
Cokeley Brothers
Um, uh, Nebraska kid that was at Michigan Greco kid. Um, Joel Adams is at Oregon state now.
00:54:04
Ryne
Joel Adams.
00:54:08
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:54:08
Reese
Cool.
00:54:09
Cokeley Brothers
So he'll probably, he'll be there 57 pounder next year. We'll see what that looks like. I really, I don't know what Joel Adams is going to look like as a product in folk style and in in college.
00:54:17
Ryne
He'll be fine.
00:54:17
Cokeley Brothers
So we'll see.
00:54:18
Ryne
I think he went he needs to shift his focus, get away get ah shift his focus away from Greco for a little while.
00:54:19
Cokeley Brothers
Um,
00:54:24
Ryne
But and when he does that, he's going to be great, I think.
00:54:30
Cokeley Brothers
uh, Sammy Alvarez.
00:54:31
Ryne
We're talking about a guy who was beating, who was beating K-SAC regularly. You know what I mean?
00:54:36
Cokeley Brothers
Right. right ah Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:38
Ryne
He's got the talent.
00:54:38
Cokeley Brothers
Um,
00:54:38
Ryne
He's got the the skill to do it.
00:54:43
Cokeley Brothers
I totally agree. Uh, Sammy Alvarez takes out Ty Whelan. Jack McGill majors, Nick in Contreras, who was super consistent this year. He really looked like he was going to be a, you know, a podium level guy. His only other losses were, uh, Kate Devos and, uh, Lorenzo Norman, but then he gets majored by Jack McGill. I don't know what to think of that. So.
00:55:06
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Cruz over McCrone. We talked about that. Keeter over Feldman fish over Downey, Mosher Schwartz over Kale Apple. Uh, and then Jacob Frost over taking Jamison was your notable upsets this week.
00:55:19
Cokeley Brothers
Honestly, pretty decent amount of them for guys in the top 10, top 15. So, uh, a little bit, a little bit of a shakeup, especially one 41 is, is, uh, one 41 is a little bit of a mess now in, in, in that tier two area.
00:55:33
Cokeley Brothers
So.
00:55:33
Ryne
Yeah.
00:55:37
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Time for the Hoosier hour.
Indiana vs. Michigan State Recap
00:55:40
Cokeley Brothers
Got a little bit of Indiana talk.
00:55:42
Ryne
Who's your daddy?
00:55:44
Cokeley Brothers
Well, Michigan state is, but Michigan or yeah, I guess.
00:55:45
Ryne
The Wolverines are.
00:55:49
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that's right.
00:55:49
Ryne
Michigan is, not Michigan State.
00:55:51
Cokeley Brothers
Right. I was thinking whatever. So yeah, Indiana takes out Michigan state. I think it was like 35 to three or something, something like that.
00:56:01
Cokeley Brothers
It was, it was, they handled, um,
00:56:04
Ryne
Let me, let me just say this, this duel between Michigan state and Wisconsin, when it happens, is it going to happen? But when that duel happens, man, that's going to be a good one.
00:56:14
Reese
Michigan State versus Wisconsin.
00:56:14
Cokeley Brothers
You think so?
00:56:16
Ryne
Yeah. Don't you think?
00:56:17
Reese
Who is the worst of the Big Ten?
00:56:20
Cokeley Brothers
Might be Northwestern.
00:56:22
Ryne
No, Northwestern Northwestern is yeah.
00:56:23
Reese
Northwestern? There's a there's a lot of contenders.
00:56:26
Ryne
They're actually Northwestern is not bad.
00:56:29
Cokeley Brothers
About Purdue.
00:56:32
Reese
They got Matt Ramos.
00:56:33
Cokeley Brothers
No, it's probably it's it's probably Michigan. It's actually I think it's handedly Michigan State.
00:56:37
Ryne
I don't know, Wisconsin's right there, dude, I'm telling you.
00:56:40
Cokeley Brothers
That well, they had their, their saving grace is their 25 pounder. Um, he's pretty solid.
00:56:45
Ryne
33, sorry, not bad.
00:56:45
Reese
Who?
00:56:45
Cokeley Brothers
So yeah.
00:56:49
Ryne
okay And 33 is tough and Rivera, or Aguilar, excuse me.
00:56:49
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Aguilar or yep.
00:56:52
Reese
Oh, you're talking about Wisconsin.
00:56:56
Ryne
No, no, not Aguilar, Nicolas Rivera, right?
00:56:59
Reese
Rivera.
00:57:00
Cokeley Brothers
Rivera who's Nick Aguilar.
00:57:01
Ryne
Yeah.
00:57:03
Reese
Nico Aguilar.
00:57:03
Ryne
That was the Rutgers, he was at Rutgers and then transferred to Clackamas and then now he's at Menlo.
00:57:08
Cokeley Brothers
That's right. Yeah. Okay. Uh, yeah, let me, let me get through this. Um, Michigan state dual, they they won 35 to three. Um, no.
00:57:20
Reese
Indiana one, 35 to three.
00:57:22
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, no crazy results. Everything looked pretty good for Indiana. Derek Dilcher, there was there was talk about, okay, Lillard's the guy at 165. So, Dilcher, the 57-pounder got hurt.
00:57:34
Cokeley Brothers
Dilcher's going to drop down to 57. That descent plan didn't really go out too well, so he's he's up at 174 now.
00:57:43
Ryne
What happened to Nick South?
00:57:43
Cokeley Brothers
Got pinned.
00:57:46
Cokeley Brothers
Um, just not the guy, I guess, uh, he got pinned by Jackson Turley and they take it, took out birdie bellman. It's like, okay, you take our birdie bellman. This is good. Look, had a really close one with Caesar Garza.
00:57:57
Cokeley Brothers
You get the wind, you get the wind, you move forward.
00:57:58
Reese
Hey, I gotta pee, I'll be right back.
00:57:59
Cokeley Brothers
So, okay. Um, but I mean, everything looked good at like, and the way it looked the way it should, shouldn't in the, uh, dual against Michigan state. Uh, and then going into Sunday, their duel against Michigan kind of knew that this was going to be one where there were a lot of close match ups.
00:58:19
Cokeley Brothers
So it was going to be a tough duel.
00:58:19
Ryne
You really want to talk wrestling while Reese is away or should we just talk some smack on him?
00:58:25
Cokeley Brothers
I got nothing bad to say about my brothers.
00:58:26
Ryne
Yes, you do.
00:58:28
Cokeley Brothers
No, I don't.
00:58:29
Ryne
All right.
00:58:29
Cokeley Brothers
Well here, here's the one bad thing I'll say about him.
00:58:30
Ryne
That's sweet of you.
00:58:31
Cokeley Brothers
I bought him a $50 mic and he has not set it up yet.
00:58:37
Cokeley Brothers
So.
00:58:38
Ryne
How about, how about the fact that he bailed on me yesterday?
00:58:43
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, that's par par for the course for honest, but honestly.
00:58:43
Ryne
Tisk, disk.
00:58:46
Ryne
Yeah, we knew that. We knew that was coming, didn't we?
00:58:49
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So, um, I mean, I was honestly at eight o'clock last night.
00:58:52
Ryne
And then, and then not only did he bail on us, but then we had the perfect opportunity to to do this podcast yesterday. And he was just, nope. Got to watch the chiefs. Got to watch the chiefs.
00:59:07
Cokeley Brothers
I was tired too, so I didn't hate it. So.
00:59:10
Ryne
Yeah. You're sleepy boy. I forget.
00:59:12
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, it depends. It depends on the day. So.
00:59:14
Ryne
You're a sleepy boy.
00:59:17
Cokeley Brothers
All right. Uh, I'm going to get into this Michigan duel a little bit, though. It's it's Michigan took out Indiana 22 to 13. Uh, kicking off the dual back to back tech falls.
00:59:27
Cokeley Brothers
Jacob Moran takes care of business. Angela Rini takes care of business. Great. Sergio Lemley majors. Henry Porter. I was kind of hoping for a little bit more out of Henry, but Sergio, I think was looking for a little bit of, um,
00:59:40
Ryne
Time to get my mojo back.
00:59:40
Cokeley Brothers
a cleanup match. Yeah. After his, his loss to Brock Hardy, uh, the next match, Joey Butler, who was a 41 pounder, uh, gets the start at one 49 Russell's camp catcher bone, uh, eight to one, which seems like, like a shutout basically, but all seven of the nine points scored were off of one exchange. It was just take down right into a tilt, just like you were talking about earlier in the duel or earlier in the, in the episode. Um,
01:00:07
Cokeley Brothers
And other than that, they both got two escapes that they chose, picked choice for. So, Chase Aldate beats Ryan Garvik. Garvik gets a takedown at the end of the third period to avoid the
Controversial Matches and Opportunities Missed
01:00:18
Cokeley Brothers
major.
01:00:18
Cokeley Brothers
And so it's like, okay, we're in this duel at at the halfway point. Tyler Lillard goes out against Beaumont and Nona.
01:00:26
Cokeley Brothers
He's wrestling. He gets to his like, his Tyler Lillard underook underhook, underhook seatbelt, wizard seatbelt position that he always gets to in these matches.
01:00:27
Reese
everything
01:00:31
Reese
here
01:00:36
Cokeley Brothers
ah And then like somehow he ends up, Bo Mantinona ends up in like a Merkle, but he doesn't have his hands locked or anything, but he has a two on one on Lillard's shoulder or on Lillard's arm, right? So he's got his arm right here and Lillard's off to the side and he takes it and he basically, so my arm is out like this, right? but But invert this backwards, that's what Lillard's arm looked like. He had a he had a way back and up and the the ref,
01:01:04
Ryne
The dude's crazy flexible.
01:01:04
Cokeley Brothers
The ref was just letting it super flexible. But as a ref, you can't let that just happen because it ends up being a takedown right into near fall at the end of the first period.
01:01:07
Ryne
and
01:01:09
Reese
so
01:01:14
Cokeley Brothers
He loses eight to five. Kind of an integral match for the duel, and it's decided off an exchange that shouldn't have even happened. Should've been called PD pretty early on in the situation. A little frustrating, but um still plenty of opportunities for Indiana to win this duel.
01:01:32
Cokeley Brothers
ah Guilter out of 174. Joe Walker's a big 74 pounder. So that match didn't go well. but Sam Golan gets the start at 184, takes out Jayden Bullock, 12-6. Great look. Good match result. Cardenas takes out Gabe Stollers, 8-4. That's ah holding Cardenas to eight points and scoring for your own. Not a bad look. right And then Jacob Bullock can beat Josh Heinsleman. It can happen.
01:02:03
Cokeley Brothers
just He's just got to do it. So this was a duel that Indiana definitely could have won.
01:02:06
Ryne
He can do it, he just needs to do it.
01:02:10
Cokeley Brothers
It's that's really all it is. So I'm just I'm just waiting to see it. Maybe he's holding on to it until the postseason. So.
01:02:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and that's my that's my Hoosier hour.
Indiana Prepares for Northwestern
01:02:21
Cokeley Brothers
They they've got senior night this weekend. I think they're up against Northwestern. So
01:02:27
Ryne
Wonderful duel.
01:02:30
Cokeley Brothers
That like, if you, you should win that duel. If you're Indiana, you should be like ready to put over 30 up.
01:02:35
Ryne
i mean
01:02:38
Ryne
Henry, port Henry Porter, Chris Cannon, that's going to be a close match.
01:02:42
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know if it is dude.
01:02:43
Ryne
Uh, why?
01:02:46
Cokeley Brothers
Chris Cannon is not good this year.
01:02:48
Ryne
Well, he's up a weight.
01:02:51
Cokeley Brothers
Have you seen his matches?
01:02:55
Ryne
Yes. I have.
01:02:58
Cokeley Brothers
It's he's one in five this year.
01:03:01
Ryne
Yeah.
01:03:02
Cokeley Brothers
You got a win at the, at the very beginning of the year against Northern Illinois.
Big Ten Wrestling Rankings Discussion
01:03:05
Ryne
What does the big 10 look like right now? Penn State, Iowa, Ohio State, Minnesota, or Nebraska?
01:03:08
Cokeley Brothers
Like probably I would, it depends dual or tournament.
01:03:14
Ryne
Who's number four?
01:03:19
Ryne
Dual. Yes, dual.
01:03:22
Cokeley Brothers
I'd say Nebraska then Illinois or Rutgers.
01:03:23
Ryne
Nebraska, Minnesota,
01:03:29
Cokeley Brothers
Rutgers just won.
01:03:30
Reese
well you gotta go Rutgers I don't know the Maryland win over Michigan Wisconsin forgot about the Badgers
01:03:30
Cokeley Brothers
So Rutgers, Illinois, Maryland,
01:03:32
Ryne
Rutgers, Illinois, Indiana. No, Michigan. Oh, Maryland, Michigan, Indiana, Wisconsin.
01:03:39
Cokeley Brothers
Maryland, Michigan, Indiana, uh, Purdue, Michigan state. Well, now Purdue, Northwestern Michigan state.
01:03:50
Cokeley Brothers
Who are we missing? Are we missing somebody obvious?
01:03:52
Ryne
but sky a
01:03:53
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, Wisconsin. Yeah, they're not, they're not doing too hot. So.
01:03:57
Ryne
They're bad. They're bad. They're bad.
01:04:00
Reese
the bad jurors so far from oh yeah that was and that was like epic epic exodus like rut right rut was gone
01:04:00
Cokeley Brothers
I'm not doing great.
01:04:01
Ryne
They're bad. They're bad.
01:04:05
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
01:04:06
Ryne
I think about 2012 and this is, this team's worse than that team.
01:04:13
Ryne
Dude, they were bad that year too. Yeah. I like lost, lost two great coaches and how didn't come back and, uh, well, right. Yep. Right. Left. How left? Like.
01:04:30
Cokeley Brothers
Hey, speaking of.
01:04:31
Ryne
Thank God for Ben Jordan. Thank God.
01:04:34
Cokeley Brothers
Speaking of Exodus. ah Do you know anything going on with Christian Carroll?
Social Media and Fan Interactions
01:04:41
Ryne
Yeah, I do.
01:04:44
Reese
Look at that face.
01:04:46
Cokeley Brothers
We're going to we're just going to leave it at that.
01:04:48
Ryne
No. All right. All right.
01:04:49
Cokeley Brothers
We're going to air out my laundry.
01:04:50
Ryne
All right.
01:04:50
Reese
ah I don't even feel like anything was said during that basset bit that was like...
01:04:52
Ryne
All right. I mean.
01:04:59
Cokeley Brothers
i don't know I don't know how many people know about all of it, so just whatever.
01:05:01
Reese
I feel like all the shit we said was I'd seen on Twitter.
01:05:03
Ryne
No, we didn't give up a source. Did we give up a source, Sammy?
01:05:06
Cokeley Brothers
i didn't see I didn't see anything about this on Twitter, but maybe I'm just blind.
01:05:08
Reese
Well, I read the comments.
01:05:09
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe it's because maybe it's cause i'm i'm ah only on the following side. I'm not on the for you, so.
01:05:14
Ryne
No, no, no.
01:05:14
Reese
you know a you where You got to push past it.
01:05:16
Ryne
You have to click on the post and read the comments, just like Reese said.
01:05:19
Cokeley Brothers
yeah So I did a little bit of that this weekend, and it was like a guy calling all of the Rutgers fans Dirty Jews, and I was like, all right, that's enough for me.
01:05:19
Ryne
Reese knows.
01:05:26
Ryne
Whoa!
01:05:27
Cokeley Brothers
um
01:05:28
Reese
Push past those comments.
01:05:28
Cokeley Brothers
Um, yeah, it was like a pence. It was like a Penn State fan like Dude going scorched earth on all of the Rutgers people because because Dean Peterson took out Luke little doll and I was like what dude Is there is there a golden child
01:05:33
Reese
There are so many of those. They're everywhere.
01:05:34
Ryne
Oh my god.
01:05:35
Reese
God.
01:05:41
Reese
yeah And they were still like trolling them after they beat Illinois.
01:05:43
Ryne
Dude.
01:05:44
Reese
They were still just like all over them.
01:05:46
Ryne
So mad. So mad. So mad. Over one match, too. Over one match. Crazy. All right.
01:05:56
Cokeley Brothers
There's Zeus.
01:05:57
Ryne
I thought the golden child was trying to win five battles.
01:05:58
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. ah So so explain explain this Christian Carroll
Christian Carroll's Season and Future
01:06:04
Ryne
I mean, I hear different things, you know, uh, the biggest thing that I'm hearing right now is that he, he's having some personal, I'm going to go ahead and say personal stuff back home.
01:06:05
Cokeley Brothers
situation.
01:06:17
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Okay.
01:06:19
Ryne
And that he is probably going to be back at Iowa state next fall. That's what I'm hearing now.
01:06:26
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Okay.
01:06:30
Ryne
We're trying to recruit him. I'll tell you that much. We're thinking.
01:06:33
Reese
Figured figured that much Can we do also will it be like is it does he burn up eligibility that like doing that?
01:06:34
Ryne
or thinking, Hey man, come get your mojo back.
01:06:39
Cokeley Brothers
Get your get yourself right.
01:06:45
Ryne
Yeah. Well, we'll know. We'll know.
01:06:48
Reese
I
01:06:49
Ryne
We'll know that in the springtime that will be for a later episode, spring summertime. We'll, we should know this should have like, whether it's going to affect eligibility anymore or not.
01:07:01
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, so yeah.
01:07:01
Ryne
So. Right now, as of right now, yes, your JUCO years affect your eligibility in your NCAA years as of right now. The only person that doesn't affect is Diego.
01:07:14
Cokeley Brothers
Sweet. Okay, so that like makes things a little bit easier to understand and and say okay about, because if if we didn't know anything, this is what I was gonna say. We saw him commit to,
01:07:31
Cokeley Brothers
Penn or Illinois, whichever one first, right?
01:07:33
Ryne
and
01:07:33
Cokeley Brothers
And then he's then he then he committed to Illinois, right? Then he committed to Oklahoma State, wrestled one match for them, and then transferred to Iowa State.
01:07:40
Reese
Yeah, those academics were that was like That's
01:07:47
Cokeley Brothers
Right, he's at Iowa he's at iowa State, he does really well.
01:07:48
Reese
crazy
01:07:51
Cokeley Brothers
First match ah of of the year, impresses, and then everything kind of tips off after that.
01:07:57
Ryne
And personal issues, man, personal, personal stuff.
01:08:00
Cokeley Brothers
Right. And so if there's, if there's personal stuff going on, right, you're losing sleep, you're stressed, things just aren't going well.
01:08:06
Ryne
It's more than that.
01:08:06
Cokeley Brothers
Take your time. Get, you know, get out of there.
01:08:10
Ryne
This is stuff.
01:08:10
Cokeley Brothers
Get yourself right.
01:08:10
Ryne
I'm there there's more than that and I'm not going to air it out because that's not fair to to him, but it's more than that.
01:08:15
Cokeley Brothers
No. No. Yeah. ah So get yourself right. Figure it out. Um, get back in the room because he's obviously good at wrestling. Would love to see you him continue to wrestle.
01:08:30
Ryne
My biggest thing is, my biggest thing is go back up to heavyweight.
01:08:30
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
01:08:37
Cokeley Brothers
No. I disagree with that.
01:08:40
Ryne
Why?
01:08:41
Cokeley Brothers
Because he did, he does not have a heavyweight. He does not have the frame for it.
01:08:44
Ryne
He's not a 97. Hey, hey, he's not a 97. He's not.
01:08:47
Cokeley Brothers
Why not?
01:08:47
Reese
Yeah, he looks cut in 97.
01:08:50
Cokeley Brothers
You can shrink.
01:08:50
Ryne
It's hard. It's tough.
01:08:52
Cokeley Brothers
You can shrink.
01:08:52
Ryne
It's hard.
01:08:53
Cokeley Brothers
You can shrink.
01:08:53
Reese
I mean, if Feldman is a heavyweight, he can be a heavyweight.
01:08:54
Ryne
Oh, dude. Yeah. Thank you, Reese. Thank you. Thank you, Reese.
01:08:58
Cokeley Brothers
I, I guess, I mean, he looked, he just looked Feldman looks somewhat lean at heavyweight.
01:09:05
Ryne
It was, it was affecting him more than you, it was affecting him more than you think, Sammy.
01:09:06
Cokeley Brothers
Carol doesn't like the weight cut was affecting him.
01:09:11
Ryne
yes Yes.
01:09:12
Cokeley Brothers
and Okay.
01:09:12
Reese
He looks skinny.
01:09:12
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
01:09:14
Reese
He looked like very skinny in the midsection.
01:09:15
Cokeley Brothers
du He, he might just be in trouble then. I don't know. Or maybe he can, maybe he can be a light heavyweight that just moves. Right. Don't try and don't try and bulk all the way up to like a two 40, two 60, stay two 20, two 30.
01:09:28
Reese
I agree.
01:09:29
Ryne
Maybe he said, maybe he needs to come down to Juco for a little bit and get his mojo back. That's what I think.
01:09:34
Cokeley Brothers
Spend some time in the weight room. Yeah, good.
01:09:38
Ryne
Come be a Triton.
01:09:41
Cokeley Brothers
There you go. um OK, let's get to some international wrestling results. We can ah take a look at these quickly.
01:09:51
Ryne
No.
01:09:52
Cokeley Brothers
Liam.
01:09:55
Cokeley Brothers
Out at the Dan Kolov. We had Dayton fixed with some with gold.
Freestyle Wrestling Achievements
01:10:01
Cokeley Brothers
Devin Turner took silver. ah Will Luan took gold. He got a 10-0 tech fall and then a 3-0 win and then a 5-0 win.
01:10:09
Ryne
Is Will Luan a freestyle guy?
01:10:13
Cokeley Brothers
Absolutely.
01:10:14
Reese
He's always been a freestyle guy.
01:10:15
Cokeley Brothers
We've always known that. Yeah.
01:10:16
Ryne
Yeah, but is he is but did we always know that he was more freestyle than he was folk style?
01:10:16
Cokeley Brothers
Always.
01:10:22
Reese
for Bro, he it was a Fargo.
01:10:23
Cokeley Brothers
I kind of thought.
01:10:25
Reese
like He did all the Illinois Fargo stuff.
01:10:27
Ryne
I know.
01:10:28
Reese
and That was where that was like where I first started seeing him, was at Sammy's Junior Duels and Fargo.
01:10:29
Ryne
Cadet world champ, I get it.
01:10:32
Ryne
I get it. but
01:10:38
Ryne
how How do you, how do you, how do you, is it because he's just, is he prolific Turner and freestyle? You know what I mean? Is he just that much better in freestyle at turning guys and he isn't folk style? Is that what it is?
01:10:48
Reese
I thought he had really good
01:10:49
Ryne
I don't watch. I don't watch.
01:10:54
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, he's, he's strong for sure. Um, okay. Back to the results. Quincy Monday took gold. He took out, he tech, uh, Ramazan Ramazanov, who's a world bronze.
01:11:05
Cokeley Brothers
So that was a good win. Um, dude, uh, Quincy Monday, I don't know if you saw, I don't know if you saw a picture of it at 74 big.
01:11:09
Ryne
Look at the Mondays. I love them.
01:11:12
Reese
love
01:11:16
Ryne
Kennedy looked good at 79.
01:11:17
Cokeley Brothers
Like.
01:11:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And so Kennedy at 79, he took silver. Uh, his lost was to a Georgian who I don't recognize the name of. It was eight, six loss.
01:11:27
Reese
What's his name?
01:11:28
Cokeley Brothers
I'm actually, uh, Tournik to the spieli.
01:11:32
Reese
Don't know.
01:11:33
Ryne
That was excellent.
01:11:33
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
01:11:34
Ryne
i mean
01:11:35
Cokeley Brothers
Thank you. Uh, he Valencia took gold, uh, teched chance Marsteller in the finals.
01:11:43
Ryne
bloodied him up and then teched him.
01:11:43
Cokeley Brothers
He looks ready.
01:11:45
Reese
Dude,
01:11:45
Cokeley Brothers
He, he looks ready.
01:11:48
Reese
ah saw one of his matches did that that Saturday night ah lights wrestling Twitter account pretty cool they they post like all their yeah they I saw his match with like Hungarian or somebody and this dude hit this the dirtiest like I say dirty as an illegal arm spin arm throw on the heed like he had the arm like below he had both hands below the elbow and like
01:11:54
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:11:54
Ryne
Great, great account.
01:11:57
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:12:07
Cokeley Brothers
Ooh.
01:12:15
Reese
Hit the arm spin yeah and like took his he was like went immediately Which is was he said no way are you ripping my arm out?
01:12:21
Cokeley Brothers
He said, ah, you can have it.
01:12:26
Ryne
Yeah, no, go ahead have this I'm just gonna get in the front headlock and choke the everliving out of you Okay,
01:12:32
Reese
Dude yeah, he did that before that so maybe that's why he the guy did that he cuz he literally like made flatten the dude out and
01:12:35
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe. Maybe.
01:12:36
Ryne
I couldn't remember I Cuz I know exactly what you're talking about I just I couldn't remember the sequence I cuz I knew what you're talking about. I couldn't remember the sequence though if it was a heed Yeah
01:12:45
Reese
i Saw that and I was like, what did he just do? What does he do do to him to?
01:12:50
Ryne
it's It's kind of like the key lock, right?
01:12:52
Reese
Break them. Yeah, like the Michael Pixley.
01:12:56
Ryne
Oh, no, no, no, no, sorry. I thought you were talking about what did the what did the other guy do. No, what does he do?
01:13:00
Reese
Oh No, no Yeah, I Know I didn't know anything about how you I
01:13:01
Ryne
No, it's it's not quite like Michael Pixley. It's more like, ah do you remember Tristan Porsche?
01:13:07
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:13:08
Ryne
What he would do in the front headlock.
01:13:10
Cokeley Brothers
No.
01:13:12
Ryne
Hey, basically you're just using this bone right here and you're just getting it right up in there.
01:13:20
Reese
So he was, dude, because this guy literally just, like, went limp, it looked like, and he rolled them twice.
01:13:20
Cokeley Brothers
Ouch.
01:13:21
Ryne
Porsche was great at it.
01:13:26
Ryne
I mean, it's kind of like an, it's almost like an, it's almost kind of like an end to Anaconda choke, but he doesn't, yeah he doesn't quite hook it up like an Anaconda.
01:13:26
Reese
And then the dude was like, alright, arm spin.
01:13:28
Cokeley Brothers
yeah He did. He did that. ah He did that to to Andrew Morgan.
01:13:39
Reese
Snake bite.
01:13:40
Cokeley Brothers
All right. Uh, chance Mark seller, obviously, uh, silver place or silver second place behind, uh, the heat Eric Schultz took, took bronze. Uh, Jordan wood took bronze and Mason Paris took gold.
01:13:53
Ryne
You just, you just unlocked so many memories, Reese. You did. You just unlocked so many memories. Sorry, Sammy.
01:14:00
Cokeley Brothers
No, you're good. You're good. You're good.
01:14:02
Reese
that's ah That's a deep cut.
01:14:02
Cokeley Brothers
Um, yeah.
01:14:03
Ryne
It was a deep cut. It was a deep cut.
01:14:07
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Uh, I also have on here the Spencer Lee, Masanosuke
Upcoming Wrestling Events and Matchups
01:14:14
Cokeley Brothers
Ono card picks.
01:14:14
Reese
What is this?
01:14:17
Cokeley Brothers
This is, uh, February 26th.
01:14:18
Ryne
It's in a month.
01:14:20
Cokeley Brothers
So yeah, just, just under a month, 30 days. so Um, they're going to add, they're going to add more matches.
01:14:23
Ryne
So we don't have to make, we don't have to make picks right now because yeah, they're, they're not done with the cards. So we can do picks later.
01:14:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:14:30
Ryne
I was, I was going to say.
01:14:30
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. All right. But. Currently, currently as it stands, they have Spencer Lee versus Oh no. Uh, Aaron Brooks versus the heat Valencia. I think they said that this is going to be at 86 kilos, which is interesting because I thought Brooks was working his way up.
01:14:43
Reese
That's crazy.
01:14:45
Cokeley Brothers
So no
01:14:46
Ryne
What is, uh, what is, um,
01:14:47
Reese
He said he'd never go in again. Go there again.
01:14:50
Cokeley Brothers
money.
01:14:53
Reese
but
01:14:54
Ryne
Lee and Onar, are they at a catchweight or are they at 61?
01:14:58
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, I don't know.
01:14:59
Ryne
Because I've heard both. I've heard both. I read i read on Flow that they're doing a catchweight, but I've also heard that maybe they're not doing a catchweight anymore, that they're going at 61.
01:15:10
Reese
Who's hosting this?
01:15:11
Cokeley Brothers
Flow, it's it's part of their...
01:15:12
Reese
Oh, OK.
01:15:13
Ryne
It's going to be in Coralville.
01:15:14
Cokeley Brothers
ah it's Oh, that's what you mean. But it's like it's part of their Flow Wrestling Night in America thing that they've been doing this this year where they like they highlight a duel, whether it's high school or college or an international card.
01:15:30
Cokeley Brothers
And i think I think that's been a good thing so far this year. And this is obviously... Super exciting. And yet on the article about the announcement, it says that though that it'll be at a catch weight, but Oh no, after that released the fact that he's dropping down to 57.
01:15:44
Cokeley Brothers
So I don't know.
01:15:45
Ryne
Oh, are they going to do it at 57 then?
01:15:48
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think so. I don't think, I don't think he's going to be ready to wrestle 57 kilos and in a month here, but maybe it will be below 61 kilos. I don't know.
01:15:58
Reese
We should get our own, we should get our own event.
01:15:58
Ryne
That would be, that would be a catch, wait.
01:15:58
Cokeley Brothers
Uh,
01:16:02
Ryne
Reese.
01:16:05
Reese
Yeah, I'll put up all my life savings as as a the bag.
01:16:05
Ryne
Reese, don't open.
01:16:11
Cokeley Brothers
For who do you want to see? Who do you, who's in your.
01:16:13
Reese
Who do I want to see? Oh, I want to get like, well, I want to get Yanni versus Odiguro.
01:16:15
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:16:19
Reese
I think that's like my like, that's what I go to every time I think about matches I want to see the most.
01:16:24
Cokeley Brothers
I think we'll get that this year.
01:16:27
Ryne
at 70.
01:16:27
Reese
Yeah, cuz they're both at 70. Yeah, right See that's it's a it's that's that could you know, I can be a thing No money, okay.
01:16:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I think we'll get that this year.
01:16:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. No, no money, no money needed. Reese, you'll get a free a charge.
01:16:36
Ryne
Man, do we do it? Do we do it in the barn too?
01:16:38
Reese
Well, it's not it's not just about the money it's about dude, you know how much exposure that would be That
01:16:44
Ryne
you You're, you're, oh man, you're just, the ideas are flowing right now.
01:16:45
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
01:16:49
Reese
would be sick But I need crypto to do better before I ever put up any money of mine
01:16:50
Cokeley Brothers
Alright, keep those ideas in mind for when we have money.
01:16:57
Cokeley Brothers
Alright.
01:16:57
Ryne
ah
01:16:57
Reese
and right now it's bad like everything in the stock well if I if I'm a millionaire if I'm a crypto millionaire then I can I'll put up money shit I'm so close dude so close can't you wouldn't believe it
01:16:58
Ryne
man No, no, no, no, no. Listen, listen, listen. The only kind of money I want you to put up is, is to help make the event happen. We don't need to like, I'll find, we can find the money for like cash prizes or whatever that that and someone else.
01:17:17
Ryne
All right, fine. How close are you Reese?
01:17:27
Ryne
I don't believe it. Are you fucking with me right now?
01:17:29
Reese
um um Yeah, I'm lying.
01:17:31
Ryne
Okay. Okay.
01:17:34
Cokeley Brothers
ah David Carr, Daichi Takatani. I think I'm guessing that'll be at 74 kilos, but maybe, maybe higher.
01:17:41
Ryne
I heard it was at 79.
01:17:43
Cokeley Brothers
Might be higher because they don't want to cut weight. Austin DeSanto, Seth Gross. ah Austin Gomez, Bryce Antonian. I hope that they just don't put a point limit on this match and they just let them score as many points as possible.
01:17:57
Cokeley Brothers
That would be so much fun.
01:17:57
Ryne
That would be sick.
01:18:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that'd be great.
01:18:00
Ryne
Man. Oh, don't endonian owns the series though, right? Two zero.
01:18:06
Reese
That makes sense.
01:18:07
Cokeley Brothers
Does he?
01:18:07
Reese
I think they only wrestled those two times.
01:18:09
Ryne
There are some twice at nationals one year, Sammy.
01:18:12
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but I thought they wrestled more than that, but I could be.
01:18:12
Reese
Epically.
01:18:16
Reese
I don't know, I mean, when would they have ever wrestled outside of that? They would never duel each other.
01:18:22
Cokeley Brothers
Um, I don't know.
01:18:26
Reese
They were at...
01:18:26
Cokeley Brothers
Let me. Let me pull up. Let me pull up the facts. Give me a break or give me a second.
01:18:31
Reese
Those matches, bro.
01:18:33
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, and then the last, the latest match announced is, uh, Nate Jackson, um, Trent, highly, which they haven't there.
01:18:33
Reese
Freaking Endonian.
01:18:40
Ryne
Wow, I didn't I didn't see that one.
01:18:42
Reese
That's a good match.
01:18:44
Cokeley Brothers
And it it says that they will be.
01:18:46
Reese
You know you don't even agree, right?
01:18:47
Ryne
No.
01:18:48
Cokeley Brothers
It's, it's, it's them facing off for the first time in their careers at 86 kilos.
01:18:48
Reese
Why?
01:18:52
Cokeley Brothers
I think they've wrestled before.
01:18:52
Ryne
Because because I've watched Nate Jackson break against Colin Moore, you know, how bad do you think or how fast do you think he's going to break against a guy like Trent Heidley?
01:19:02
Reese
you know a one I feel like a one-off match my favor like might be better for him. I would still pick Trent, obviously.
01:19:09
Ryne
Maybe. Hey, great.
01:19:10
Reese
but
01:19:11
Ryne
Hey, Nate Jackson, bring back the cram videos and maybe, you know, you might start going off again.
01:19:14
Reese
Yeah, dude, those creative videos were crazy.
01:19:15
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, those are great.
01:19:17
Ryne
They were awesome.
01:19:18
Cokeley Brothers
Hey, dude, people forget Nate Jackson is beating Jaden Cox.
01:19:23
Reese
Yeah.
01:19:25
Ryne
Ambo nickel.
01:19:28
Reese
People nickel? Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right.
01:19:28
Cokeley Brothers
What? Oh, yeah.
01:19:29
Reese
That was a long time ago.
01:19:31
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:19:31
Ryne
Shoot dude. He almost did it twice.
01:19:34
Cokeley Brothers
He did almost do it twice. Bo nickel did not like wrestling, a Jackson.
01:19:36
Reese
At NCAs?
01:19:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:19:38
Ryne
Yeah, and then they were like, they were like, they asked Bo, they were like, oh, was and love Bo to death, but they were like, Bo, is that a bad matchup for you?
01:19:39
Reese
Was that close?
01:19:47
Ryne
He's like, no one's a bad matchup for me. It's like, all right, guy, come on.
01:19:49
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. But Bo has the utmost confidence in himself and.
01:19:51
Ryne
Come on.
01:19:52
Reese
What would you say? What? I mean, what are you going to say to that though?
01:19:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:19:56
Reese
Yes.
01:19:57
Ryne
Well, it's just the way it was his tone, dude. It was his tone.
01:19:59
Reese
Yeah.
01:20:00
Ryne
Go watch the interview. You watch the interview and you're like, all right, man, come on.
01:20:01
Reese
His tone.
01:20:02
Cokeley Brothers
I know, I know exactly what the tone is and I.
01:20:04
Ryne
I understand the confidence, but like the dude clearly, like the dude is clearly like giving you struggles. So I don't believe I really have a bad matchup, but you know what Nate Jackson's tough and yeah, I just, you know, you know, I don't think I have bad match ups.
01:20:13
Cokeley Brothers
Right, and you can get the same message across in a different way, you can just say like,
01:20:20
Cokeley Brothers
That's not something I think about. Right. You can just be like, that's not something I really think about. I just think about trying to win a match.
01:20:28
Ryne
I just think these guys wrestled to another level when they wrestle me. That would be better.
01:20:34
Cokeley Brothers
That's too humble. That's way too humble.
01:20:36
Ryne
Is it though? That's a little bit, it's not, it's a little bit of a, of an ego boost too.
01:20:38
Cokeley Brothers
That's so humble. A little bit.
01:20:40
Reese
I would be like, this is what I would say. I'd be like, you can't ask me any more questions ever till you give drop down and give me 20 pushups.
01:20:51
Ryne
Drop it give me fit ah recently or what?
01:20:52
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
01:20:52
Reese
Like that that one guy, that some UFC guy did that. Can't remember who it was.
01:20:55
Cokeley Brothers
What if your what if your was it like Rampage Jackson or something like that?
01:20:58
Reese
No, it was a white guy.
01:20:58
Cokeley Brothers
Probably.
01:21:01
Cokeley Brothers
OK. um
01:21:03
Reese
It was like cowboy surround maybe or I don't know.
01:21:06
Ryne
Ah, that would make sense for Cerrone.
01:21:08
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, one of the.
01:21:09
Reese
And he kept like, yeah
01:21:12
Cokeley Brothers
One of the funniest, I've been enjoying the more of the athlete content for the college guys and and Penn State has been doing a lot of it and recently their thing was like, have you ever taken down or and or pinned yeah coach Kale Sanderson?
01:21:23
Reese
I saw that video.
01:21:28
Ryne
Yeah.
01:21:28
Cokeley Brothers
And a lot of the, ah so many of them were like, yeah, yeah, a lot of them were like, yep, take taking them down.
01:21:32
Reese
It was confusing.
01:21:34
Cokeley Brothers
And then and like do you have the video of it? It's like, I think you deleted that, so.
01:21:38
Reese
I don't know, I don't know what to think of that video. I feel like some of them are probably telling the truth.
01:21:43
Ryne
and I was like, I
01:21:45
Reese
i' I'm thinking like, I'm like, like Kirkwood was like, no, never impossible. And it so it makes me think maybe there's just they try to like, gas, kale,
01:21:57
Ryne
Kale Sanderson can still make a world team right now for the United States of America.
01:22:06
Reese
Probably, I think so. I mean, yeah, I certainly think he could beat Snyder.
01:22:07
Ryne
I would take Kale Sanderson in a match exactly over Kyle Snyder. I was like,
01:22:14
Reese
For sure, yeah.
01:22:15
Ryne
If these dudes are getting takedowns on them in the match, then he's letting it happen so he can, he can boost your confidence.
01:22:23
Reese
Probably, yeah.
01:22:24
Ryne
The only ones I thought I was like, all right, you legitimately probably took him down. Where's the mirror solas?
01:22:32
Cokeley Brothers
Kirk do I Think I think Kirk might be from it might be Kirk might be trolling.
01:22:33
Reese
So why Kirk? Well, why is Kirk like, no, never impossible.
01:22:34
Ryne
Oh, I didn't make it. I didn't, I didn't make it to Kirk.
01:22:38
Reese
It's just, just gassing.
01:22:38
Ryne
I didn't, I didn't even make it to Kirk.
01:22:39
Cokeley Brothers
He's just he's just like you can't Or yeah Kirk is slow, I don't know
01:22:43
Reese
But my, like, I feel like he, he said that like David Taylor kind of add the same to the same things.
01:22:52
Cokeley Brothers
Right. And it's just like, that's just the way you talk about it, right?
01:22:53
Reese
Maybe they're just trolling bro.
01:22:54
Cokeley Brothers
Because another, yeah. Cause another video that they had earlier on was like, who's the fastest on the team and everybody was like me or who's the best at dodgeball. Everybody was like, I'm the best.
01:23:04
Ryne
I like that one.
01:23:04
Cokeley Brothers
No one can beat me except for, uh, the ass.
01:23:08
Ryne
I like all the videos. Rick tail is, is hyping up all of Casey Cunningham's children and then we'll, and then we'll poo poo on Casey Cunningham.
01:23:15
Cokeley Brothers
Yes.
01:23:19
Ryne
I love that.
01:23:19
Cokeley Brothers
du Well, there was one where he was like, they were like, who's the fastest?
01:23:20
Reese
That's funny
01:23:22
Cokeley Brothers
Who's the strongest? Who's the smartest? He's like, Casey Cunningham, Casey Cunningham, Casey Cunningham.
01:23:26
Ryne
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:23:27
Cokeley Brothers
And then they're like, who's the best at dodgeball? And he's like, not Casey.
01:23:31
Ryne
He was, no, he was referring to Casey's kids, not Casey.
01:23:35
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, really?
01:23:36
Ryne
He said, Cunningham, Cunningham, Cunningham, not Cunningham, but he was not referring to Casey.
01:23:36
Cokeley Brothers
I thought he was talking about Casey.
01:23:41
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
01:23:41
Ryne
He was referring, cause he's got one of his kids on the squad right now.
01:23:47
Cokeley Brothers
i so I thought he was talking about Casey Cunningham.
01:23:49
Ryne
No, no, no, no, no. Cause then he, and then he, cause then he'll goes, you know, all of Casey's kids, they get all of their athletic prowess from the mom.
01:23:50
Reese
How do you know he
01:23:58
Ryne
Not really, you know, Casey's just dragging them down.
01:24:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Okay.
01:24:04
Ryne
He poo poos on Casey, not like for real, but like, you know, as ah in a joking manner.
01:24:04
Cokeley Brothers
I thought I get it.
01:24:08
Reese
I get it.
01:24:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Missouri's Struggles and Injury Speculations
01:24:13
Cokeley Brothers
Well, we're at at an hour 24. We got some tools that we could preview. I don't really know if we want to do that or if we feel like we have the time for it.
01:24:21
Ryne
Iowa versus Penn State, that's going to be a woodshedding. Rutgers versus Minnesota, that's going to be very good.
01:24:26
Reese
These other duels, yeah, whatever.
01:24:29
Ryne
And then Oklahoma State versus...
01:24:30
Reese
Oh, you think so?
01:24:30
Cokeley Brothers
Um,
01:24:31
Ryne
Rutgers versus Minnesota is going to be a good duel. Missouri versus Oklahoma State there will also be a woodshedding.
01:24:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Okay. There you go.
01:24:39
Reese
Poor Missouri, bro. This is the worst I've ever seen in Missouri.
01:24:42
Ryne
Ever.
01:24:43
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, they're, they're injured.
01:24:43
Ryne
Like literally ever.
01:24:45
Cokeley Brothers
They're. Yeah. I mean, they were, they were what, like 2007 was like a really bad time for them.
01:24:49
Ryne
It's...
01:24:52
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
01:24:52
Reese
Was it?
01:24:53
Ryne
Not as bad as this is.
01:24:53
Cokeley Brothers
Or like there was no way, wait, there was the time between Ben Askren and like the modern Mizzou.
01:24:59
Ryne
No, cause no, they still have max. They still had max even in those times.
01:25:03
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, okay.
01:25:04
Ryne
It was good.
01:25:04
Cokeley Brothers
Well, I mean, they have Keegan O'Toole right now and like Rocky Elam's there, but he's injured.
01:25:09
Ryne
No, they're going to be good next year when they get everyone healthy.
01:25:09
Cokeley Brothers
um Well, if...
01:25:11
Ryne
And well, I mean, Keegan's not going to be back, but they'll have agents and Claire and it was.
01:25:15
Reese
They'll get, uh, they'll get Mendoza, bro.
01:25:18
Cokeley Brothers
Yep,
01:25:19
Reese
That's a monster monster recruit.
01:25:22
Cokeley Brothers
yep. I guess we can, we can, did you speak in...
01:25:24
Reese
Maddox Shaw.
01:25:24
Ryne
Listen, it's time for Brian to hang it up.
01:25:24
Reese
Is that he go there? Is he going there?
01:25:27
Ryne
It's time for Brian to hang it up and pay the hand the reins over to our boy Kendrick Maple.
01:25:32
Reese
I agree.
01:25:32
Ryne
It's time.
01:25:33
Reese
Well, I like Brian Smith.
01:25:33
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Yeah.
01:25:35
Reese
I don't know.
01:25:35
Cokeley Brothers
I think Brian still doing a good job.
01:25:36
Reese
Whatever.
01:25:38
Ryne
I think it's, I think it's time.
01:25:39
Reese
But I do think the injuries are suspect.
01:25:41
Ryne
I think it's time.
01:25:43
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, there's a lot of injuries this year, and but speaking of Missouri, uh, they wrestled like why wasn't it announced until last week type thing.
01:25:46
Ryne
The most suspect, the most, the most suspect injury of the year is younger Bastita.
01:25:47
Reese
Missouri always has injury issues. What do you mean by that suspect?
01:25:59
Ryne
Uh, it wasn't announced until late because, uh, Gable Stevenson came back. That's why.
01:26:07
Reese
Oh, so you see, so you say, you know, they don't think, you don't think he's actually hurt.
01:26:08
Ryne
100%. There's one, I mean, Uh, I was at the dual last night. Let's just say he doesn't look very hurt to me.
01:26:21
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. um
01:26:23
Ryne
And it's, I mean, it's not just people outside of Iowa state that are saying this. It's people within Iowa state that are also like, this guy's not wrestling because you can't win it.
01:26:32
Reese
Well, I don't blame them.
01:26:36
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yeah. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Wyatt Henderson would never do this.
01:26:42
Ryne
Gable's going to be gone.
01:26:43
Cokeley Brothers
But if, if I.
01:26:44
Ryne
Kirk's going to be gone. Wyatt's going to be gone. That really opens it up for you for younger.
01:26:49
Cokeley Brothers
Schultz.
01:26:51
Ryne
Schultz is going to be gone.
01:26:52
Reese
Dude, heavyweight is going to be so different next year.
01:26:54
Cokeley Brothers
It's empty. Very empty.
01:26:58
Reese
There will be no more powerhouses. Trumble I guess he'll be back right or is this his senior year?
01:27:03
Cokeley Brothers
Trumble, Trumble, Feldman.
01:27:06
Ryne
He's got one more.
01:27:07
Cokeley Brothers
Um, there'll be, there'll be some good heavyweights, but not like it is right now.
01:27:12
Ryne
No.
01:27:12
Cokeley Brothers
This is.
01:27:13
Reese
There's really no like incoming big-time heavyweights either I guess what's what but the other guy?
01:27:17
Cokeley Brothers
No.
01:27:20
Ryne
Jude Korea.
01:27:22
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:27:26
Reese
Saw them.
01:27:27
Cokeley Brothers
Sahakian.
01:27:27
Ryne
So he can.
01:27:28
Reese
It's the hacking. Yeah
01:27:30
Ryne
He just got beat by Kobe Merrill.
01:27:32
Cokeley Brothers
Hacky Sahakian.
01:27:35
Ryne
So Cody Merrill went to Gilroy, right?
01:27:42
Reese
no
01:27:43
Ryne
Was he not a Gilroy kid?
01:27:43
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
01:27:44
Ryne
Because Kobe is not a Gilroy kid.
01:27:45
Reese
I Didn't think he was a Gilroy kid.
01:27:47
Ryne
Maybe he wasn't. Okay. I thought he was.
01:27:48
Reese
I thought it was like some random high school.
01:27:51
Ryne
Well, he, I mean, he wrestled for DC though in his club, right?
01:27:55
Reese
Oh Oh
01:27:56
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, it says he went to ah Gilroy. So I don't know, dude.
01:27:59
Ryne
Yeah, but so why doesn't Kobe wrestle at Gilroy? they not Are they not brothers? They are brothers, right?
01:28:07
Reese
Yeah, bro, if they're not brothers. I'll put a lot of money down at their brothers Senior
01:28:10
Cokeley Brothers
That's dude. That's in. Yeah. he goes So Kobe Merrill goes to JW North.
01:28:16
Ryne
Has he always gone to JW North?
01:28:19
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
01:28:21
Ryne
And what is he a junior or senior this year?
01:28:24
Cokeley Brothers
i don't know um don't i I don't know, I don't,
01:28:30
Ryne
Is he? Cause, cause flow wrestling, I think had him down as a sophomore.
01:28:35
Reese
I thought it was a senior
01:28:36
Cokeley Brothers
Let me think about this, so that's for the 20. No, I think he's a junior this year.
01:28:42
Ryne
That would make sense.
01:28:44
Cokeley Brothers
I think he's a junior this year. um Hey, but you you mentioned Missouri and this this reminded me.
01:28:54
Cokeley Brothers
I think it was Missouri and West Virginia dueled this weekend, right? I believe they did. um
01:29:04
Cokeley Brothers
And I think it was the Jordan Titus. Uh, yeah, Missouri and West Virginia wrestled.
01:29:10
Ryne
Oh, the headgear, the headgear, the headgear BS.
01:29:13
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So, so Titus slides his head gear to the center of the mat. Edmund walks towards the center of the mat and slides his head gear towards the coach's corner. And they ding Titus for unsportsmanlike and they take a team point.
01:29:29
Ryne
Stupid.
01:29:30
Cokeley Brothers
Um, kind of dumb, ultimately not a factor of the dual is 22 to 16 for Missouri. But I mean, what are we doing?
01:29:42
Reese
It's pretty dumb, but it's also like I'm also like Did you not see that like why are you why are you yeah, I mean you know that these rules exist
01:29:51
Ryne
I lied. Oh, it has to be Merrill as engineer.
01:29:56
Ryne
Yeah, no, but they're re said that these, you know, why do it if these, if you know that these rules exist because dude, like he didn't really throw his head gear.
01:29:57
Cokeley Brothers
Reese, what'd you say?
01:30:07
Ryne
He slid it.
01:30:08
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
01:30:10
Reese
He slide and I thought he like just tossed it into the center of the mat Yeah,
01:30:10
Cokeley Brothers
You read the rule book.
01:30:11
Ryne
And this was.
01:30:15
Ryne
whatever it regardless they said that one guy did it with malicious intent the other guy and the other guy did not that's that it's going back to the the judgment bullshit like yeah you're gonna I mean dude you're gonna you're gonna take
01:30:27
Reese
that is stupid
01:30:30
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, they got to change the rule to, unless you are using your, your head gear as a projectile to harm another person, it's not a team point.
01:30:40
Reese
Yeah, I don't even like spike the hager who cares Yeah, dude, yeah, what are we doing here?
01:30:43
Ryne
You're going to take a team point for Jordan Titus for, for, you know, tossing his head gear or sliding his head gear or whatever, but you're not going to do your, all you're going to do is give jet stricken burger, a stern talking to for basically unloading the clip on choice, Bradley.
01:30:58
Ryne
Like, come on, what are we what are we doing?
01:30:59
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
01:31:03
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it's just, I don't know.
01:31:08
Ryne
And, and where do you guys, I mean, we're not you you guys, but like, whether you agree with it or don't agree with it with the stricken burger stuff, it's like, listen, it's, it's, it is, it's inappropriate in today's climate, right?
01:31:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Uh, yeah, don't, but don't take it.
01:31:27
Ryne
It is.
01:31:29
Cokeley Brothers
Don't take a team point for it. Just be like, do you just got to, as a ref, you just hold them back and be smart. That's, that's really it.
01:31:36
Ryne
Well, what do you do then?
01:31:37
Cokeley Brothers
So I don't know.
01:31:39
Ryne
because ah in football, it's fifteen yard it's a flag and a 15 yard penalty automatically.
01:31:47
Ryne
You gotta hold all the sports to the same standard when it comes to certain celebrations, right?
01:31:48
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
01:31:55
Cokeley Brothers
I guess, but I mean, who, how do you, how does it, how do you come to a universal agreement on what is okay and not.
01:32:02
Reese
Yeah, it's tough with the gun thing. When you think about this kind of cowboys, it is like, like, intuitively, you see the the pistols versus, you know, an automatic assault weapon.
01:32:15
Cokeley Brothers
chi chi chi yeah Right.
01:32:16
Reese
Yeah, and they do, they do feel totally different.
01:32:16
Ryne
Yeah. One, one, one is mocking one.
01:32:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:32:21
Ryne
yeah Anthony Ashnall was mocking Oklahoma state while, that while jet stricken burger is like, like, yeah, if I had a gun, I would be murdering you right now.
01:32:24
Cokeley Brothers
Dude. Real Budo did it this weekend.
01:32:35
Ryne
Not saying that that's what jet was thinking, but like, that's what it looks like. Right.
01:32:40
Reese
Yeah, it is like, yeah, I mean, we think about like, nobody like, you know, this is these are the kind of weapons that you know, kill kids in school shootings and stuff like, yeah, I don't know.
01:32:52
Ryne
ah But my whole thing is like, yo, we got, we got, I mean, Johnny de Julius.
01:32:52
Reese
It just
01:32:57
Ryne
Oh, no, this is great for the sport of wrestling. This is cool. And Carta Sriracha, like, ah we're robots, so we can't celebrate like that. Like, no, dude, there are, there are ways you can celebrate or whatever.
01:33:08
Ryne
Like, look at Dean Peterson this weekend. After he beat Luke Lilladall. Great
Sportsmanship and Celebratory Gestures Debate
01:33:15
Ryne
celebration.
01:33:15
Cokeley Brothers
What do you do?
01:33:15
Ryne
I thought, I don't know.
01:33:16
Reese
Yeah, what did he do?
01:33:17
Ryne
He did like, he did like a little dance thing. I don't know. He was like, you know, it was, it was very Jersey, very Jersey celebration. It was perfect though, in my opinion, like was celebrating with his corner. Meanwhile, you're like, you're Jet Strickenberger and you're like, yeah, but but but but but but but like, come on, dude.
01:33:33
Ryne
Like, especially a guy who's been DQ'd from national tournaments in the past because he can't control himself.
01:33:40
Cokeley Brothers
a I saw him do it and I'm like, that is a JUCO product.
01:33:46
Reese
Oh, offense?
01:33:46
Cokeley Brothers
Which I mean, is it?
01:33:49
Reese
Offense rhyme?
01:33:50
Ryne
I'm not I mean No, I'm not because he has definitely i mean he's done Dumb stuff in the past at the national tournament.
01:33:51
Reese
Are you offended?
01:33:51
Cokeley Brothers
Well, because they're.
01:33:59
Ryne
You can't like can't can't control his emotions can't can't keep his composure Yeah, yeah you pinned up you pinned him off of a you know the kid got lazy or you know what I mean it's like Yeah
01:34:00
Cokeley Brothers
It just. And I think that's part of what it was, right? He's wrestling number four in the country and he pins him. It just be burst out.
01:34:14
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah, yeah Apples a fine loss is heating up.
01:34:16
Reese
I got a question. Kind of like off topic taking Jameson. How do we feel about him after this weekend?
01:34:23
Ryne
He's slumping.
01:34:27
Ryne
The frost is on. and Frost is hot though. The frost is hot. The frost is hot.
01:34:32
Cokeley Brothers
He is defrosting I Don't know.
01:34:33
Ryne
He's defrosting.
01:34:38
Ryne
I think it'll be all right.
01:34:38
Cokeley Brothers
We'll see.
01:34:39
Ryne
I think it'll be fine.
01:34:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I think you'll I
01:34:40
Reese
So, but I know I definitely don't think I don't think he can crack in to that top four.
01:34:47
Cokeley Brothers
Probably not. I mean, he might be one of those guys, low, low. Remember, take, take take and win. Oh, and two at NCA's last year. He lost to Dan Fongaro and then Kale Apple.
01:34:54
Reese
So I also forgot. Okay. He was at 41 last year. I don't know why I thought he was in a different way for some reason.
01:35:01
Cokeley Brothers
I got him and T Travis mixed up a lot. Um, but, uh, so, I mean, he had,
01:35:08
Ryne
Teague's going to end up at Missouri.
01:35:12
Reese
That's cool.
01:35:14
Cokeley Brothers
Damn. Uh, I, we'll see. We'll see. I think he'll get, I think he'll get some revenge at big 12s and then we'll see how big, uh, NCA shakes out.
Oklahoma State's Challenges
01:35:24
Cokeley Brothers
So.
01:35:24
Ryne
I think David Taylor is going to have his guys ready.
01:35:30
Cokeley Brothers
this is This is like where it starts to become a real test because you've seen Oklahoma State do really well at the beginning of the year and then they have some of these tougher duels and they don't do quite as great as you would like hope for them to do necessarily. They still wrestle fine. They're great guys wrestle great. They're good guys. have you know They have these missteps.
01:35:48
Cokeley Brothers
so
01:35:50
Reese
Beating northern Iowa at northern Iowa is like pretty impressive this year Do we who is it you think ah maybe northern Iowa might be ah What's his name?
01:35:56
Ryne
Yes.
01:35:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, for sure. For sure. Like they, they did plenty of things. Not everything went their way. And if, if you, if you expect that as crazy.
01:36:09
Ryne
Doug Schwab
01:36:09
Reese
Yeah, coach Doug Schwab he might be in the running for coach the year
01:36:10
Cokeley Brothers
Doug Schwab.
01:36:14
Cokeley Brothers
It could be. I, I, I thought about this and it's.
01:36:19
Ryne
We had a conversation about it over text, didn't we?
01:36:21
Cokeley Brothers
I know, I know.
01:36:21
Ryne
Who did we, who did we, who did we put in there?
01:36:22
Cokeley Brothers
And I, I, I.
01:36:22
Reese
Oh, we did?
01:36:24
Ryne
Cause I mean, dude, if kale, if kale breaks his own record this year, how do you not give it to him?
01:36:30
Reese
Yeah, it's true.
01:36:30
Cokeley Brothers
Right. But it's also just like, is it glaze? You know, are we glazing kale?
01:36:36
Ryne
No, yeah how is it glazing kale?
01:36:37
Reese
When was the last time he's won it?
01:36:39
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. It's like, man, man, you got all the national champs. You got all the team titles. Let's just give you coach of the year.
01:36:39
Ryne
It doesn't even look like his, it doesn't even, it doesn't even look like his team on, on paper.
01:36:47
Ryne
On paper this like people are talking about this being the greatest Penn State team of all time But like if you look at other teams he's had in the past like on paper, it's not it's not Yes, that's what I'm saying Any but and it's it's not out of the question youre like he can do it like this team can do it
01:37:00
Cokeley Brothers
No, to get the performance that to get a performance that would break your previous record out of this team would be pretty exceptional. um Maybe another like a suggestion brought up was.
01:37:14
Cokeley Brothers
A suggestion that was brought up was like a more evenly distributed competitive field where like everybody else is kind of, you know, Kale Sanderson might have been here and now he's here, but then everybody was here last year and now a lot of people are down here type thing.
01:37:28
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe I don't know.
01:37:28
Ryne
Here's, here's the thing. The man, the man just, I mean, he's getting better.
01:37:33
Reese
When do you guys think the last time he he won it was?
01:37:37
Ryne
What do you mean? Who won what?
01:37:38
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, coach of the year.
01:37:39
Reese
Coach of the year.
01:37:39
Cokeley Brothers
Coach of the year.
Kale Sanderson's Coaching Legacy
01:37:41
Ryne
Uh, he won it in 2023, didn't he?
01:37:42
Cokeley Brothers
2018. Did he? No, I thought that was Mike.
01:37:46
Ryne
Oh, did Mike Gray win it?
01:37:46
Cokeley Brothers
Mike Gray. I think so. Can we look this up?
01:37:51
Ryne
Yeah, somewhere. Well, so who are we talking about? What publication?
01:37:56
Reese
I thought I was a unanimous.
01:37:57
Cokeley Brothers
and Was it NWCA or something like that?
01:37:57
Ryne
When? When, when magazine coach of the year, like, I don't know.
01:38:02
Reese
Who who does who does everybody go off of doesn't there one singular I thought there was like a Probably that makes us because doesn't win do that the hodge I
01:38:07
Ryne
Maybe, I don't know. Yeah, that's, I don't know. That's my question though. I guess I don't know what publication decides isn it. ah Isn't it, isn't it when.
01:38:18
Ryne
Dodge. Yeah.
01:38:23
Ryne
2018.
01:38:23
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, okay.
01:38:24
Ryne
Really? It's been that long.
01:38:25
Cokeley Brothers
ah twenty twenty minute No, you're right. You're right. You're right. 2023 was, was kale.
01:38:29
Ryne
I was gonna say, I could have swore he wanted.
01:38:30
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. So, but then before that was 2017.
01:38:33
Reese
I'm about after that. Wow. He didn't win it in 2018.
01:38:37
Cokeley Brothers
No, it was a tie between Joe McFarland and Pat Papalesio.
01:38:38
Reese
That's kind of crazy.
01:38:41
Ryne
Joe McFarlane, because it was his last year.
01:38:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I guess so. So kale, kale won it in 2011. Then he split it with Jim Miller in 2013.
01:38:54
Reese
Who dat?
01:38:54
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, then he, he won it in 2017.
01:38:55
Ryne
Wartburg. That was also Jim Miller's last year at Wartburg.
01:38:57
Reese
Oh.
01:39:00
Ryne
It was a Joe McFarland type deal.
01:39:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I guess honorary. Yeah.
01:39:03
Reese
It was an attaboy.
01:39:05
Cokeley Brothers
Man, I could have sworn Mike, maybe wait.
01:39:05
Ryne
Attaboy. Jim Miller is a great coach. He is. Don't get me wrong. like All the titles he won with Wartburg, like he's he clearly is deserving.
01:39:16
Ryne
I'm a big Jim Miller fan.
01:39:16
Cokeley Brothers
Mike, I could have dude, I could have sworn Mike Gray won some sort of, of the year type thing.
01:39:24
Cokeley Brothers
Am I wrong?
01:39:27
Ryne
He should have split it last year with Neil. I love Neil. Don't get me wrong. I'm glad Neil won it outright, but dude, you beat the second place team by a hundred points.
01:39:34
Reese
Why should he have won it? Oh.
01:39:39
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, 2023 in W.
01:39:40
Reese
Oh, you're talking about KO.
01:39:41
Reese
I thought you were talking about Mike.
01:39:41
Ryne
I'm talking about Kale.
01:39:42
Ryne
um I'm saying Kale should have won it with Neil last year.
01:39:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah, 2023 in WCA national coach of the year.
01:39:49
Reese
It was Mike.
01:39:51
Cokeley Brothers
was Mike, Mike Gray.
01:39:52
Ryne
And WCAD.
01:39:53
Cokeley Brothers
So they have, they have like the win NCAA coach of the year, the Dan Gable coach of the year. Um, and then you have the NWCA coach of the year.
01:40:00
Ryne
That's, that's the one that matters. The Dan Gable coach of the year. That's the one that matters in my opinion.
01:40:04
Cokeley Brothers
You think so? You think so?
01:40:07
Cokeley Brothers
What about like the national wrestling coaches association voting amongst your peers type thing?
01:40:13
Ryne
That's a lot of politicking. If you ask me, that's fans.
01:40:15
Reese
What about the who who votes in the win?
01:40:16
Cokeley Brothers
Yes.
01:40:17
Reese
Is it just like the guys who can...
01:40:19
Ryne
That's the fans, isn't it?
01:40:20
Reese
That's fans?
01:40:22
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, interesting.
01:40:24
Ryne
I don't know. I might be wrong.
01:40:26
Reese
I figured it was like they...
01:40:26
Ryne
yeah It is with the Hodge.
01:40:28
Reese
but No, the Hodges...
01:40:28
Ryne
They have the fan vote with the Hodge, right?
01:40:31
Reese
No, it goes to like past winners and other officials.
01:40:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:40:35
Cokeley Brothers
ah So it's a, it's a, it's a matrix.
01:40:35
Ryne
There's a vote though.
01:40:36
Ryne
There's a vote, Reese.
01:40:36
Cokeley Brothers
It's a matrix. It's a matrix. You get fan vote, but also, um, previous winners have their own input and that's like a percentage type thing.
01:40:38
Ryne
Yeah.
01:40:44
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, but I don't know what that whole thing looks like.
01:40:45
Reese
It's like the electoral college.
01:40:47
Ryne
They take the fans into consideration.
01:40:47
Cokeley Brothers
No.
01:40:51
Cokeley Brothers
It's like the fan vote is like 10% or something like that type thing. I don't know what it exactly looks like. So, uh, but yeah.
01:40:57
Reese
I think we did it.
01:41:01
Cokeley Brothers
Hey, what do you think? Want to wrap it up?
01:41:06
Reese
Yeah.
01:41:06
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
01:41:06
Ryne
Oh, Ricky, wrap it up.
01:41:06
Cokeley Brothers
Thank you everybody for listening. Uh, if you're still listening, like comment, subscribe, all that BS and have a good day. That's most important.
01:41:14
Ryne
It's not BS, though. You'll be helping us a great deal.
01:41:18
Cokeley Brothers
Make our, make our numbers go up so that we can host, uh, the barn session wrestling card with your support.
01:41:21
Reese
and Look for a Yeah, yeah Look look for the upcoming barn session card Wrestling card, yeah a pizza party
01:41:22
Ryne
Make the bond session great again.
01:41:29
Ryne
oh yes yeah see more support from you we can have our own card and you know what i'd like to do with this card i'd like to throw in some uh wrestlers from other divisions in this card i want to
01:41:30
Cokeley Brothers
They can happen. Yep.
01:41:36
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
01:41:47
Cokeley Brothers
All right, have a good day. See you later, but bye-bye.