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Session 65 - Conference Weekend Recap
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We recap the various conference championships from the weekend and take a look at the recently announced at-large bids.
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Introduction and Format Change
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Cokeley Brothers
Welcome back everybody to another episode of the barn session podcast. little bit of a different format today. This person's near me now, my oldest brother and his son is over there with my other older brother.
Family Mention and Conference Discussion
00:00:14
Cokeley Brothers
So we got Cooper and Reese and then me, Sammy and Ryan. Um, I have no beard. And he shaved his beard kind of just doesn't, it's not the same now, but
00:00:23
Reese & Cooper
Me too. Shave mine.
00:00:27
Cokeley Brothers
the rest of us cannot grow facial hair. So, um, But conferences just happened or a couple of days ago they wrapped up and yeah, now here we are.
00:00:40
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, where do you guys even want to start? Do you want to just go weight by weight through all the conferences? how do you want to break this down? wait Which conference do you want to start with?
00:00:45
Reese & Cooper
Let's just, let's hit, let's hit big tens first.
00:00:47
Cokeley Brothers
that though I don't know.
00:00:50
Reese & Cooper
Come on.
00:00:50
Cokeley Brothers
Rip Big Tens. Right into it. All right.
Penn State's Freshman Victory and Nationals Talk
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Cokeley Brothers
um Big Tens 125. For the second year in a row. Penn State.
00:01:01
Cokeley Brothers
Won by a true freshman from Penn State. Yeah, but that did not bode well last year. No, not Nationals. So, I mean, I don't think that's going to be repeated.
00:01:12
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:01:14
Reese & Cooper
Well, who was it?
00:01:14
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, Luke Lillardal won. He took out Caleb Smith in the finals and Matt Ramos in the semis. Ramos took third. um Nicola Rivera fourth, who kind of showed up and and had a ah good performance. Yeah.
00:01:30
Cokeley Brothers
it' Jacob Moran for fifth and Dean Peterson for sixth.
00:01:39
Cokeley Brothers
I'm to end that.
Wrestling Picks and Iowa Banter
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Cokeley Brothers
Go ahead. Keep talking. Meanwhile, for 10.
00:01:43
Reese & Cooper
i would I would like to say that I went 7 for 10 on my picks. Ryan, how did you do?
00:01:52
Cokeley Brothers
don't know. I have to go see my board, which is in Iowa.
00:01:56
Reese & Cooper
No.
00:01:58
Cokeley Brothers
And I am not in Iowa.
00:02:02
Reese & Cooper
Coward. You know you didn't get 7.
00:02:03
Cokeley Brothers
Hold on. Let me think about it. Let me think about it. Let me think about it.
133 Weight Class Debate
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Reese & Cooper
to
00:02:12
Cokeley Brothers
One, two,
00:02:26
Reese & Cooper
Yeah, so 133. 133. Champ was, ah who was the champ at 133? I can't even remember.
00:02:37
Reese & Cooper
ah Was it Iowa? No. Wasn't Iowa. Whatever.
00:02:45
Cokeley Brothers
I went 7 for 10 as well in my picks.
00:02:47
Reese & Cooper
Whatever.
00:02:48
Cokeley Brothers
I did.
00:02:52
Cokeley Brothers
What do you mean? Which ones did you miss?
Lucas Bird's Tournament Performance
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Reese & Cooper
25, 33, 97. picked Tyler Who was 33? can't remember. ninety seven
00:03:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, see? Same here. What in your face what happened? he was like, he was like oh I went 7 for 10 in my picks. What you do? And then I did the math and I also went 7 for 10. He was like, whatever.
00:03:13
Cokeley Brothers
And we both missed the same weights, too.
00:03:13
Reese & Cooper
if you picked pilot kex
00:03:16
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. you guys went similar You guys went pretty similar picks for for a handful of the weights. um
00:03:22
Reese & Cooper
so what thirty three i can't remember
00:03:25
Cokeley Brothers
Bird. bird Bird with the cowcatcher.
00:03:27
Reese & Cooper
I heard.
00:03:28
Cokeley Brothers
Birdman. The bird.
00:03:30
Reese & Cooper
Yeah. Were we surprised by Lucas Bird hitting that cow catcher?
00:03:34
Cokeley Brothers
No. I mean... He's strong.
Drake Ayala's Defeat Analysis
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Reese & Cooper
And getting it?
00:03:41
Cokeley Brothers
That's tough to do against a guy ah of that kind of quality. he drak out all of but He was quick. he He saw his opportunity and took it. and you know It was tight.
00:03:52
Reese & Cooper
I want to.
00:03:52
Cokeley Brothers
drake There's nothing Drake could do. Drake was freaking out. He buried He tight. There's nothing.
00:03:57
Reese & Cooper
Oh, yeah. He did the little flail, which was very satisfying to watch, honestly.
00:03:59
Cokeley Brothers
You stay out Fort Dodge.
00:04:03
Reese & Cooper
Hey.
00:04:06
Cokeley Brothers
you stay you stay out of fort dodge
00:04:09
Reese & Cooper
Nothing against Drake Ayala, but it was penalty.
00:04:11
Cokeley Brothers
You stay out of Fort Dodge.
00:04:13
Reese & Cooper
I will.
00:04:13
Cokeley Brothers
That's all I got to say. All right.
00:04:16
Reese & Cooper
don't let Don't let the four Dodge people hear that.
00:04:19
Cokeley Brothers
I'll feed you to him.
00:04:19
Reese & Cooper
Scratch that from the record.
At-Large Bids and Unexpected Outcomes
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Reese & Cooper
Hey, want to rewind...
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Cokeley Brothers
I'll feed you to him.
00:04:23
Reese & Cooper
rewind What about Matt Ramos? Were we surprised by Luke Will at all beating him but bad?
00:04:28
Cokeley Brothers
So. Majoring Yes. Yeah. I mean, with the way he capitalized on that, that takedown right to Ramos's back early on in the first period. That was good.
00:04:40
Cokeley Brothers
um And then he was able to you know do what he does. He's he's super tough to score on. He moves so quickly. Yeah. yeah I mean, he looked really good in that match. Now, it's one of those ones, one of those matches where the same result is not going happen the next time.
00:04:54
Cokeley Brothers
Like, he can still beat Ramos, but I think it's going to be a closer, much closer match. Majors are easier to come by these days.
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Reese & Cooper
I
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Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:05:02
Reese & Cooper
i don't think he'll put him on his back again. i don't think Ramos is going to go for that leg pass when it wasn't really there.
00:05:09
Cokeley Brothers
right Yeah. Concede the takedown and then figure out the match from there. Move to see another day. um Notable results within the bracket. ah Brendan McCrone, a guy who has a pin.
00:05:23
Cokeley Brothers
He's pinned the champ, Luke Liddell. He went 0-2 in the bracket, but I think he... He took 9th. Yeah, he came out ah in the 9th place bracket and um won that. He beat Joey Cruz, who I think got an at-large bid by
00:05:38
Reese & Cooper
They already did at largest.
00:05:40
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, so those got announced earlier today. So 125, the four at-large bids are Coda Holman from Cal Poly, Joy Cruz of Iowa, Spencer Moore, North Carolina, Tanner Jordan for South Dakota State. The alternate is Diego Sotelo, so he's just on the outside. Did any guys not get any that we thought might maybe?
00:05:57
Cokeley Brothers
At 125, I don't think so. I don't think there were any big misses. None that I would have off red top right off the top of my head. All right.
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Reese & Cooper
Terakina was a guy who, you know I mean, he didn't have the resume to get an at-large,
00:06:10
Cokeley Brothers
but but Let's switch over to Outlarges now. Just in
Chaos in 157 Weight Class
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Cokeley Brothers
general? Yeah. Let's look through these. yeah that's like so We're bouncing to Outlarges now. yeah well What else? I want to look at these. i haven't seen these yet okay all right right um yet. That was 125 for Outlarges, 133. Ethan Bergen, Evan Frost, Tyler Wells, and and Tyler Knox.
00:06:32
Cokeley Brothers
With the alternate being Michael Baker. i thought his name was Markel Baker. Not the one that beat. beat uh zeth romney i have no clue i thought it was maybe i guess i'm wrong um i think what so one of the ones that was noted by it was willie sayler put something out about it ethan bergen lost in the semis at eiwas i want to say it was a hofstra kid that beat him and then he the hofstra kid lost in the finals to kurt phipps so they both needed at large bids and
Analysis of 165 and 197 Weight Classes
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Cokeley Brothers
ethan got one but the other kid didn't and i mean
00:07:07
Cokeley Brothers
Willie threw a fit about it, but you got to be able to take your whole season's resume into account. Otherwise, it doesn't matter. Otherwise, it's just March.
00:07:14
Reese & Cooper
Who qualified?
00:07:15
Cokeley Brothers
Uh-uh.
00:07:15
Reese & Cooper
and Was that Matty Lopes? Did he qualify?
00:07:19
Cokeley Brothers
No, it was Kurt Phipps.
00:07:21
Reese & Cooper
Phipps? he was ah you like He got the only automatic qualifier?
00:07:23
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:07:25
Cokeley Brothers
I believe there was only one. one yeah Yeah, I did. I took a look at the AQs between EIWA and Ivy. I think the EIWA had 22 and the Ivy League had 26. It's like a diff team difference of like 6 and 12 or something like that between the Ivy League and EIWA.
00:07:45
Cokeley Brothers
So i the EIWA seems, or I would say is missing having the Ivy League around for it because now you have some weights where it's just
00:07:49
Reese & Cooper
Thank
00:07:55
Cokeley Brothers
one qualification, which is tough. So, uh, continuing on with the bids, one 41, AJ Rollo from Bellarmine, Danny Pacino, Illinois, Josh Edmond, Missouri, Missouri, Jaden Scott, North Carolina, Cole Brooks from Wyoming is the alternate.
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Cokeley Brothers
Um,
00:08:15
Cokeley Brothers
This one, was... Is that Bellarmine's first? Uh-uh. They had an AQ at 184, Devin Hendricks. Oh, nice. he yeah He beat me 2022. I remember that. Yes. Smith banked you.
00:08:28
Cokeley Brothers
Nope. It was a one-takedown match. Said I'm your daddy. All right.
00:08:31
Reese & Cooper
you
00:08:33
Cokeley Brothers
I'm just kidding. No, it's so okay. 149? does it say four bids, but then... There's an alternate. That's an alternate. The fifth one an alternate. I'm talking about 49 here. Oh. It says four bids, but it has six listed, it looks like. Yeah, it
Big Ten Finals Recap
00:08:46
Cokeley Brothers
shouldn't say four bids because there are six.
00:08:48
Cokeley Brothers
um No, but 141, Danny Pacino lost at Big Tens to Henry Porter. Henry Porter, a guy who i was kind of hoping would be able to sneak in. for Indiana, but not quite. Not even an alternate.
00:09:05
Cokeley Brothers
149. Winton Denkins from Campbell. Malik Hines, Lehigh, Sam Cartella, Northwestern. Willie McDougal for Oklahoma. Jaden Abbas. Jaden Abbas, that's a pretty big one for Stanford.
00:09:16
Cokeley Brothers
Gabe Willishell for Wyoming. and And then your alternate is Finn Solomon. I mean... Finn got the alternate, huh? Yeah.
00:09:28
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. i figured he might have gotten in over someone like Sam Cartella. No, Sam had a pretty good year this year. So did Finn. don't know. 10 Dankins?
00:09:40
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. I don't know about that one. All right. 157 also had – actually, that is more than six. That is seven.
00:09:52
Cokeley Brothers
Seven at-larges? That is seven. That's a lot. Okay. Blake Saito from Brown. James Harrington from Harvard. That's two... um tweet ivy James Conway from Missouri, Trevor Chumlee for Northwestern, Christopher Hamblin for Oregon State, Dylan Evans for Pittsburgh, and Grieger Chalakian for Stanford. so Two ACC's, two Stanford's, a Big Ten.
00:10:10
Reese & Cooper
Thank
00:10:11
Cokeley Brothers
twelve Two Stanford's, you said? Two two ACC's, two Ivy's, one Big 12. One Pac-12. Oh, my bad. ah This was an interesting one because Trevor Chumlee lost to Connor Harer at Big Ten's for ninth place.
00:10:30
Cokeley Brothers
But Connor Harrow doesn't get in. Trevor Chumley does. I think they they place, if there's only eight, but they place the ninth because think if somebody, I can't remember why, but they do that for a reason.
NCAA Tournament Speculations
00:10:41
Cokeley Brothers
For some reason. don't know why. um Yeah, and your alternate Nick Stampoulas. Stampoulas. Stampoulas from Lockhaven.
00:10:53
Cokeley Brothers
165, you got four bids. Gunnar Filippovic from Army, Will Miller, App State, Tyler Lillard, Indiana, Drake Road, South Dakota State. Lillard got one. And the alternate is Anthony White from Rutgers, who beat Tyler le Lillard at Big Tens.
00:11:06
Cokeley Brothers
That one Rutgers is probably not happy about, but...
00:11:10
Reese & Cooper
F'em.
00:11:10
Cokeley Brothers
Lillard had lots of quality wins. Yeah, so he beat a conference champ in ah Hunter Garvin and then you know plenty of other AQs. He had a solid year.
00:11:23
Cokeley Brothers
He deserves it. Sure. Sorry. I'm not saying Anthony White doesn't, but I'm just saying Lillard might a little more. Yeah, and I mean, Lillard beat White twice earlier in the year, so... Oh, Turley got one, though.
00:11:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, 174. Miles Tackett's from Bucknell. Nick Incontrera from Penn, which that makes sense. He had a really good year, but kind of fallen off a little bit towards the end of this season.
00:11:40
Reese & Cooper
Thank you.
00:11:45
Cokeley Brothers
norman needed one lorenzo i think Lorenzo went like 0-2 ACC's. Wow. so that's another I mean, I made the claim that Lorenzo and Orman's a guy to watch out for at NCAAs, and now it's starting to not really look like the case.
00:11:56
Cokeley Brothers
Shoot. Let's see where he falls in the bracket. Yeah, Jackson Turley from Rutgers, and then your alternate is Michael Wilson out of Ryder. 184. There's five bids.
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Cokeley Brothers
Caden Rogers from Lehigh. Colin Fegley from Lock Haven. Colton Hawks from Missouri. Roderigatsky from Ohio State. And then Dennis Robin from West Virginia with your alternate being Dashiell Lamer from Cal Poly. Dennis Rodman?
00:12:21
Cokeley Brothers
Dennis Robin.
00:12:24
Cokeley Brothers
a good one. Sorry, thought it was... That's a good one. That's a good one. 197, your four at-large bids are Carson Floyd from App State, Wolfgang Frable from Army.
00:12:32
Reese & Cooper
Thank you.
00:12:33
Cokeley Brothers
That is an awesome name. That's great name. Wolfgang Frable. Tucker Hogan from Lock Haven, Joey Novak. Say it with me now. I didn't realize Novak needed a bid, and Luke Cochran from Central Michigan.
00:12:44
Cokeley Brothers
And then lastly, 285, Four bids. Daniel Herrera from Iowa State. Isaac Trumbull, NC State. Lance Runyon, Northern Iowa. Jaroslav Slavikowski from Rutgers. And your alternate is Xavier Doolin from Morgan State.
00:12:57
Cokeley Brothers
Previously from Northern Colorado. ah Yeah, I mean, that 285 was deep. Stacked. Deep, deep, deep. um Jaroslav Slavikowski.
00:13:10
Cokeley Brothers
I didn't know he needed one. i mean he I don't even know if he's going healthy to wrestle. Oh, so you're saying Xavier Doolin be ready. Yeah, I guess, right? Or he's going to try and wrestle and it's just not really going to work out.
00:13:22
Cokeley Brothers
like I could also see that happen. Notable at 184, TJ Stewart did not make the tournament. All-American from last year. Didn't get the job done. So, yeah.
00:13:34
Cokeley Brothers
Wasn't even the alternate. No, and I mean, he did not have the year to... to really justify it. Back it up. now yeah this was TJ Stewart is out.
00:13:46
Cokeley Brothers
It sucks. I like TJ Stewart. Yes. I believe he was on my fantasy team last year. Not this year, though. um Okay, you want to hop back over to Big Tens and kind of go through this?
00:14:01
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
00:14:01
Cokeley Brothers
How do you feel? How do you feel about this?
00:14:03
Reese & Cooper
That's when we took that quite long detour.
00:14:06
Cokeley Brothers
Any surprises for you?
00:14:09
Reese & Cooper
What?
00:14:10
Cokeley Brothers
Is there any surprises for you?
00:14:12
Reese & Cooper
For the at-larges? Well, I don't really, I don't know. I mean, I didn't know like 70 to 80% of those names, so.
00:14:17
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. it's ah It's a bit of a gray area within the sport. I don't know. um No, I get it. unless you're like Unless you're really looking for one person. Unless you're tapped in like me, what you're saying?
00:14:34
Cokeley Brothers
You're not tapped in. I am. you did I had to tell you about DJ Stewart. I just thought he maybe it was an AQ, to be honest. Yeah, well, you would have you thought that because you were not tapped
Major Upsets in Wrestling Competitions
00:14:45
Cokeley Brothers
in.
00:14:45
Cokeley Brothers
I am tapped in. All right, 133 at the Big Ten. We already mentioned Lucas Bird getting the pin in the finals over Drake Ayala. I knew about Wolfgang Frabel, did you? Okay. Exactly. Yeah. um Third place goes to Nick Buzakis, who lost round one and did the classic backside boozy run. Yeah.
00:15:05
Cokeley Brothers
Runs through the backside, gets a pin in the and the third place match against Braden Davis.
00:15:13
Cokeley Brothers
Braxton Brown takes fifth, Dylan Schauber takes sixth. Rini for seventh and Van D injury or medical forfeiting down to eighth after probably a questionable Matt return from Nick Buzakis, suplexing him.
00:15:30
Cokeley Brothers
No, it was legal.
00:15:34
Reese & Cooper
Legal in what way?
00:15:34
Cokeley Brothers
Reese, did you see?
00:15:35
Reese & Cooper
what sense?
00:15:36
Cokeley Brothers
Did you see this Reese legal and all of the sense?
00:15:40
Reese & Cooper
ah I don't know. Is it like, why, because he didn't leave his feet?
00:15:45
Cokeley Brothers
He returned him safely. Yeah.
00:15:49
Reese & Cooper
I don't know if he returned to next one.
00:15:49
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. and but it's It's super safe when you return somebody and they pass out, right? Well, so the yeah, no.
00:15:54
Reese & Cooper
He kind of returned them onto his head.
00:15:59
Reese & Cooper
Sort of, yeah.
00:16:00
Cokeley Brothers
It wasn't on his head with pressure on the neck from the half.
00:16:03
Reese & Cooper
Where was it then?
00:16:05
Cokeley Brothers
No, just on his ah like arm area.
00:16:05
Reese & Cooper
Children blades?
00:16:09
Reese & Cooper
ah for What? Hmm. That's
00:16:12
Cokeley Brothers
Just like, you know, right here. This area. ah
00:16:16
Reese & Cooper
not what I saw.
00:16:16
Cokeley Brothers
Right there. hu ah Tyler Wells is in, right? Yeah, he's in. okay He had a... i mean He was one of your at-larges.
00:16:28
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:16:30
Cokeley Brothers
Anything else for 133? I mean, what... What do we think? but Bird, so it's it's Bird, Ayala, and then probably um ah Little Rock Kid. Nasir Bailey, that's probably your one, two, and three seeds.
00:16:44
Cokeley Brothers
um You think? I'm guessing. I mean, Bird's the one, for sure. Who won, I guess it wasn't Evan Frost, was it? No, Dominic Serrano. And then second place went to Berwick, so...
00:16:59
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I mean, frosting is not large. Seating is going to be interesting. It's going mess, and people are goingnna people are going to throw a fit about it, but it's fine. What are you going to do? You've got to go out there and you've got to wrestle. It's just bottom line.
00:17:13
Cokeley Brothers
All right, 141. Probably one of the most exciting weights from this tournament. um We have Brock Hardy coming away with the title.
00:17:24
Cokeley Brothers
Likes to party. getting a pin in the finals over Vance Vombard, who Vance beats Bo Bartlett in the semis, 5-3. Hardy beats returning national champ Jesse Mendez, 9-8 in the semis.
00:17:38
Cokeley Brothers
um did this is This is a great bracket. And then also on the on the other side of things, you have um Andrew Lirez, national champ, out of Big 12s. He takes a loss in the semis to tag Jameson, and then tagging loses in the finals to Cale Happel. Let me say that.
00:17:55
Cokeley Brothers
Tagging? That's how I say it. You can say Tagging probably. I don't know. I just wondered. don't know.
00:17:59
Reese & Cooper
It's taken.
00:18:01
Cokeley Brothers
Tagging Jameson. Sure. There
00:18:03
Reese & Cooper
we've we've already We've already talked about this.
00:18:06
Cokeley Brothers
you go. Who's eight? I'm assuming us. Three of us.
00:18:12
Reese & Cooper
On the podcast.
00:18:12
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. But yeah, yeah I mean, this is going to be this weight was great. I think it's going to continue to be great next weekend.
00:18:24
Cokeley Brothers
i mean, guys that
00:18:24
Reese & Cooper
Well, I got to thank Ryan. for pushing me to pick Brock Hardy because I might not have.
00:18:30
Cokeley Brothers
I picked him too.
00:18:33
Reese & Cooper
And it it worked out pretty well.
00:18:33
Cokeley Brothers
Did I pick him? No.
00:18:35
Reese & Cooper
Even though Brock, mean, yeah, he didn't pick.
00:18:36
Cokeley Brothers
Who did you pick? I probably picked Jesse. Yeah.
00:18:40
Reese & Cooper
Yeah. I think he picked Jesse.
00:18:42
Cokeley Brothers
I should have picked brock
00:18:42
Reese & Cooper
He gave Jesse just about every opportunity to win that match. Also, you know, giving up that last second reversal and escape at the end or take down or whatever it was.
00:18:46
Cokeley Brothers
Brock. Man, he he really he really did. i mean, he got...
00:18:54
Cokeley Brothers
i think you yield a good takedown Yeah, takedown at the end of the second period. And I mean...
00:18:57
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
00:18:59
Reese & Cooper
Look at this dude.
00:19:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but he got the job done.
00:19:00
Reese & Cooper
He's about to fall asleep. He's got his eyes closed.
00:19:03
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. ah Cooper, what are your...
00:19:05
Reese & Cooper
Not Cooper.
00:19:05
Cokeley Brothers
What are your... Oh, this guy. You're going to fall asleep.
00:19:08
Reese & Cooper
Yes.
00:19:10
Cokeley Brothers
was falling asleep there a little bit.
00:19:15
Cokeley Brothers
Tired. I was sleepy from the plane the plane ride today. All right. I mean, even a ah notable name in this weight is Sergio Lemley. He took fifth place. This...
00:19:26
Reese & Cooper
Well.
00:19:26
Cokeley Brothers
this
00:19:29
Reese & Cooper
Probably where he should have placed.
00:19:31
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, I guess you would have thought from last year's performance to this year that that he would have kind of jumped into that that tier with these guys, but...
00:19:33
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
00:19:39
Cokeley Brothers
It's tough. It's tough. I mean, you have ah you have an All-American in this bracket who went oh and two Chris Cannon.
00:19:46
Reese & Cooper
or
00:19:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:19:47
Reese & Cooper
Oh, Chris Cannon. Wow. Come on now.
00:19:49
Cokeley Brothers
He's also up 0-8.
00:19:50
Reese & Cooper
Chris Cannon.
00:19:50
Cokeley Brothers
Wasn't Chris Cannon an All-American at 33? What, Reese? What?
00:19:56
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
00:19:57
Cokeley Brothers
Come on.
00:19:57
Reese & Cooper
We all know.
00:19:58
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. What? Rich said he's right about Chris Cannon. Did you know if he was going up a weight?
00:20:04
Reese & Cooper
he's washed is what I'm saying.
00:20:05
Cokeley Brothers
you Yeah. I mean, there was definitely a lot of injuries for that guy. All right. 149. Ridge Lovett comes away. boring A boring finals match, but he's 0-3 against Kyle Parco going into Saturday night.
00:20:24
Cokeley Brothers
Beats him, majors him four to two or fourteen to two Majored him. Majored him. ken ajud him Kanan Webster gets the 4-2 win over Shane Van Ness.
00:20:30
Reese & Cooper
did
00:20:34
Cokeley Brothers
And, you know, they they have Webster and Ridge kind of had like what I would call a feeling out match where they really just kind of learned each other. And then maybe the next time they wrestle each other, that'll be...
00:20:45
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:20:46
Reese & Cooper
i think I think it was totally one-sided. was Ridge just getting – he even said it. he was he let it He said against Parco he scrapped, and then against Cannon, Webster, he just got the job done.
00:21:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:21:01
Reese & Cooper
So, I mean, obviously that Parco match, you can you know how how good he can be.
00:21:07
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:21:07
Reese & Cooper
And then there's the Cannon match where he'll basically let guys hang in with him in matches.
00:21:15
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:16
Reese & Cooper
which is not smart if you ask me.
00:21:19
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Yeah, and and and so... by the sword you have you have these... I mean, at first it kind of felt like two guys with Van Ness, Lovett, and Parco, but Ken Webster kind of showing that he can wrestle with these guys.
00:21:34
Cokeley Brothers
um And then you also have ah Caleb Henson from the ACC, who's undefeated on the air. He had a... you know I think it was a one takedown match with with Lachlan McNeil in the ACC's, but...
00:21:49
Cokeley Brothers
But he dominates him. That's, that's a you know, to see what he looks like against these guys. I mean, I hope he gets to wrestle more than one of them. You know, two, maybe even three would be. and
00:21:59
Reese & Cooper
what do What do we...
00:21:59
Cokeley Brothers
How's he going to get seated?
00:22:01
Reese & Cooper
What?
00:22:01
Cokeley Brothers
Caleb Henson? Yeah, in a 49.
00:22:03
Reese & Cooper
He'll be the one.
00:22:03
Cokeley Brothers
How's he going to get seated? Henson's the one. Ridge the two.
00:22:06
Reese & Cooper
Rich? Yeah.
00:22:08
Cokeley Brothers
And, oh, you have a yeah have Jordan Williams. From Pac-12?
00:22:15
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
00:22:15
Cokeley Brothers
No, he's not going to be the three, though, is he?
00:22:18
Reese & Cooper
No.
00:22:18
Cokeley Brothers
Probably not the three.
00:22:18
Reese & Cooper
Probably not.
00:22:19
Cokeley Brothers
Isn't Panero going to be the three? i don't think so, either. are I mean...
00:22:24
Reese & Cooper
I think if we're talking about Pinero, then it could be Shane or... web I mean, not Webster. Webster has, what, like six losses on the season or x seven?
00:22:31
Cokeley Brothers
Shane the three, Panero the four? Maybe. but then Williams the five, something like that? No, Williams is going to be like the six or the seven. Hmm.
00:22:42
Reese & Cooper
feel like we're forgetting somebody too. Maybe not.
00:22:47
Cokeley Brothers
Ivy League? Do we have Ivy League?
00:22:48
Reese & Cooper
I mean, McNeil. Where's McNeil going to be?
00:22:49
Cokeley Brothers
Where's who, Rhys?
00:22:52
Reese & Cooper
McNeil.
00:22:54
Cokeley Brothers
Lachlan and then also Colin Robuto. Yeah, can. Go ahead.
00:22:59
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
00:23:00
Cokeley Brothers
yeah can
00:23:00
Reese & Cooper
Do we think – I got a question.
00:23:02
Cokeley Brothers
ahead
00:23:02
Reese & Cooper
How do we feel about Webster? we think he can replicate that you know with like the top guys?
00:23:07
Cokeley Brothers
Yes.
00:23:07
Reese & Cooper
Do you think he can beat the top –
00:23:08
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Yes. Seems like he's got some, yeah maybe ah maybe some he's always been a gamer inconsistency in his offensive capabilities. um But I mean, if his offense is firing, he's good. And yeah I think he can.
00:23:23
Cokeley Brothers
He's game. Yeah.
00:23:24
Reese & Cooper
He's game.
00:23:24
Cokeley Brothers
He's going edge.
00:23:24
Reese & Cooper
like you Are you saying he's ri he's so he's raised his level? Is what you think? Like, compared to...
00:23:29
Cokeley Brothers
he Yes, because it's it's postseason time.
00:23:30
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
00:23:33
Cokeley Brothers
yeah i think Yeah, I think what we saw last year from Kanan, the expectations were were pretty high.
00:23:33
Reese & Cooper
Posting his mind.
00:23:40
Cokeley Brothers
And then throughout this season, didn't really feel like he was living up to them. But now feels like he is. and And yeah, I do think he can he can scrap with these guys. And he can he can show, you know, he's shown that he can get get the job done against a guy like Shane Van Ness. He's the man.
00:23:56
Reese & Cooper
He can probably beat just about, I would say he could beat just about anybody at that weight except for Ridge Lovett. That's kind of where I'm at.
00:24:02
Cokeley Brothers
He could have beaten Ridge Lovett.
00:24:05
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
00:24:06
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe. That's a wonderful match. It feels like he probably needed this needed to sneak it out, though. you know Take down towards the end of the period. Sometimes all that happens is you slip. Your opponent slips.
00:24:18
Reese & Cooper
No, you're right.
00:24:18
Cokeley Brothers
You want to talk about opponent slipping?
00:24:19
Reese & Cooper
if rich
00:24:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. 125.
00:24:20
Reese & Cooper
If Ridge wrestles not to lose, then yeah.
00:24:21
Cokeley Brothers
yeah twenty five I know. so so way into it um Also, I mean, notable on the backside, Van Ness majored Parco He's got it down against Parco. I don't think we're ever going to see a ah that match result ever flip.
00:24:37
Cokeley Brothers
So... um Yeah. 157. Man, I mean... Okay, this bracket fell apart.
00:24:49
Cokeley Brothers
Did it? Yes, absolutely. ah So, Ja'Cory Teamer, the four seed, takes seventh. He loses to Tommy Askey and Ethan Miller. ehan miller
00:25:05
Cokeley Brothers
A down performance. Overtimes. ah So, I mean, i don't have high expectations for him for the NCAA tournament.
00:25:10
Reese & Cooper
All right, so you you think you think this performance from Jacory, you think this takes him out of, like, contention?
00:25:18
Cokeley Brothers
i Yeah, I mean, yeah, I i do think so.
00:25:19
Reese & Cooper
like ah
00:25:21
Cokeley Brothers
i agree.
00:25:22
Reese & Cooper
my I think, like, I don't think this changes my opinion. I think people are overreacting about the teamer, about his performance at the tournament. I think he's, the I mean, i don't think he was ever going to beat KSAC or Shapiro to begin with.
00:25:31
Cokeley Brothers
Really?
00:25:37
Reese & Cooper
But I definitely don't think he's – I think he's like the third best. I think he can still be the third best guy for sure. Like, no, I think he he had a – I mean, it's Big Tens.
00:25:43
Cokeley Brothers
don't think it's like seventh or eighth place?
00:25:50
Reese & Cooper
You know, he's never wrestled in a Big Ten tournament.
00:25:50
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:25:52
Reese & Cooper
It's not the national tournament, so he didn't necessarily need to win those matches.
00:25:57
Cokeley Brothers
You're not wrong.
00:25:57
Reese & Cooper
And he got stung by a good Tommy Askey, and I think he'll be ready.
00:26:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:26:03
Reese & Cooper
And I think people are just like – writing him off I think is kind of crazy.
00:26:03
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. i just I guess I want to see what the bracket looks like. I don't really like to judge things until I see the brackets. Yeah, I just kind of felt like with how stifled his offense was. I mean, he scored one point against Askey and one point against Miller, like,
00:26:19
Cokeley Brothers
there there was not that pop that we normally see. I mean, you you you said it, Reese, like think back to when he majored Hayden Hydeley. Like there was, there was, dan there was some unbelievable offensive capability.
00:26:26
Reese & Cooper
Yeah. He's definitely not that guy anymore.
00:26:31
Cokeley Brothers
And yeah, you just don't have that anymore. And so, i mean, he's got his, he's got a shoulder brace. We know that he's torn his peck in the past. His hamstring was bugging him earlier this year.
00:26:41
Cokeley Brothers
So, i mean, if injuries are really starting to pile on, it doesn't look better the deeper into the season you get. It looks worse generally.
00:26:47
Reese & Cooper
Yeah, but look what he did to like Caleb Fish earlier in the season you know, I mean, even
00:26:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:26:51
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. And so, and so I started to think about, cause we have, you have Marshall power from the Ivy league. You have Tyler Kasach, obviously and in in the big tens, big twelves, you have,
00:27:03
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, it's just a mess. They cannibalized themselves.
00:27:05
Reese & Cooper
Thank
00:27:06
Cokeley Brothers
but Everybody did. Vinny Zerbin won the bracket. Nobody even was talking about him. going into the going Kobe Seabrook made the finals. Cody Chittum took sixth. I mean, the Big 12 is just an absolute mess at 157. Yeah, it's awesome. Which is great. I mean, I do love it, but it does not give you any confidence to really to really say, like, I want to see what these guys do against a guy like Tyler Kasach.
00:27:26
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, Kasach is... Kasach is scary good looking. I mean... to to think that he was a guy that was 141 earlier this year, or or not earlier this year, but last season, he was a 141 pounder.
00:27:38
Cokeley Brothers
Now he's up 16 pounds, two weight classes, and he looks like the strongest guy. It's, I mean,
00:27:44
Reese & Cooper
What you implying?
00:27:48
Cokeley Brothers
you know what i'm implying. But regardless, regardless, right? The the strength is there. And that's going to be hard for anybody to get to get by. I mean, dude, the way he pinned on Trell Taylor in the semis,
00:28:01
Cokeley Brothers
Pretty unbelievable.
00:28:02
Reese & Cooper
Yeah, that was crazy. That was really crazy. i mean, yeah.
00:28:05
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. ah Dude, I mean, I've never seen... so like and like he There was nothing that Antrell Taylor seemingly could do when once he was on his back. It seemed like he was just he was pressed to the mat, and that was it.
00:28:16
Cokeley Brothers
um Yeah. looking at Looking at the bracket, KSAC in the finals gets a 12-2.
00:28:21
Reese & Cooper
So what did you think about his final match, his finals match?
00:28:22
Cokeley Brothers
Go ahead.
00:28:26
Reese & Cooper
He didn't look quite the same.
00:28:26
Cokeley Brothers
I mean...
00:28:27
Reese & Cooper
Different
00:28:28
Cokeley Brothers
No, ah but but it was it was definitely controlled. Let me...
00:28:30
Reese & Cooper
headgear.
00:28:32
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
00:28:33
Reese & Cooper
He had different headgear on. He had the Meyer Shapiro headgear on.
00:28:35
Cokeley Brothers
What? He did? i didn't even realize that. um Yeah, I mean, he got a...
00:28:39
Reese & Cooper
And he did have like one instance in the match where he had to like take a second.
00:28:47
Cokeley Brothers
He did? didn't realize.
00:28:48
Reese & Cooper
Yeah, like he like blocked a shot or like level change or something and heads a little bit.
00:28:52
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I mean, yeah, he might have he might have a little bit of a head injury, but... i don't think we're going to see that and don't see I don't think we're going to see that cause a result to change.
00:29:04
Reese & Cooper
Yeah, hopefully not.
00:29:05
Cokeley Brothers
yeah so i mean he got ah He got a takedown. was going into the third period. He gets an escape. um Gets called for stalling for the second time. is 3-1, 3-2, 4-2.
00:29:17
Cokeley Brothers
it is was three three to one three to two four to four to two with a minute left, he gets a takedown at near fallen writing time. And that's how you end up with a 12-2 major. So definitely a match. The match is definitely closer than the result.
00:29:29
Cokeley Brothers
I think the biggest takeaway though credit. Brandon Cannon is for credit to Brandon Cannon is what I think.
00:29:35
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
00:29:35
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, it's 157 is noted not a, not a very deep weight class and and we'll need to see what Brandon Cannon looks like against that, that group of guys from the big 12. And you'll get a real understanding of his place in the, in the weight class from that.
00:29:49
Cokeley Brothers
I can definitely see why Sammy Sasso didn't want to exhibition him.
00:29:53
Reese & Cooper
yeah
00:29:54
Cokeley Brothers
Or not exhibition, wrestle off against him. Yeah, sure. Oh, yeah.
00:29:57
Reese & Cooper
I'm sold.
00:29:57
Cokeley Brothers
um oh yeah I mean, with the way he with with the way he wrestled, in his wrestling.
00:29:57
Reese & Cooper
I think he could he could definitely AA. I mean, he knows how high I guess.
00:30:08
Cokeley Brothers
i mean i'm not seeing i'm not seeing a like a lot of vulnerability in his
00:30:13
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
00:30:14
Cokeley Brothers
and his wrestling like I think he can lose two guys like Blaze and Entrell Taylor and and a Ryder Downey. um And I mean, i don't think he's I don't think he's going to be able to get wins over KSAC and Shapiro.
00:30:31
Cokeley Brothers
so But the match to look for at 157 is going to be KSAC Shapiro. if we if the If the people get what the what the people deserve, it's going to be that in the finals. um And I think it's going to be great. I think you'll get KSAC as the one and Shapiro as the two.
00:30:48
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, I think the only people that can stop that matchup are KSAC and Shapiro. You know, if if there is a real head injury issue with KSAC and that comes to light and there's like real problem that needs to be taken care of at NCAAs, you'll see that. And it's the same thing with Shapiro. I mean, we've seen it. he um
00:31:04
Reese & Cooper
What about Vinny Zerbin? What do we think about Vinny Zerbin?
00:31:08
Cokeley Brothers
I wasn't, I was not ah convinced by his his finals match against Seabricks that he's... um that he's ready to to to do that. but
00:31:20
Reese & Cooper
No, he kind of controlled. they just controlled the match. But he beat Ryder Downey, and did he beat Caleb Fitts?
00:31:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah, i mean, ah he needed he needed a last-second takedown to beat to beat Fish, right?
00:31:36
Reese & Cooper
Really? I didn't see it.
00:31:37
Cokeley Brothers
but who it was Whoever was in the semis, he you got that last-second takedown, I think.
00:31:40
Reese & Cooper
Yeah. Moving fish. Oh.
00:31:44
Cokeley Brothers
I'm pretty sure. so i mean he could i he's well he's one of one of two guys in the last three years to beat levi haynes right i mean you're in good you're in good company it's you and keegan o'toole so don't rule it out but we'll see we'll see um
00:31:54
Reese & Cooper
Yeah. That's something.
00:32:00
Reese & Cooper
Mm-hmm.
00:32:05
Cokeley Brothers
um But yeah, Blaze takes third on the backside. ask you or asking Taylor takes fourth. Askew at fifth. Miller sixth. Teamer seventh. Saltate eighth. 165.
00:32:18
Cokeley Brothers
no one sixty five Hmm. I got things that I want to say about this. right vulnerable messing brik Honestly, Reese, that comment that you sent from Instagram about Messenbrink basically being and an Elden Ring boss for Caliendo.
00:32:37
Cokeley Brothers
and just Caliendo obviously did some sort of like pattern recognition. He's like, I've seen this before. I know how to stop this one. and And limiting him to a 4-1 decision in the finals.
00:32:48
Cokeley Brothers
There's something there.
00:32:50
Reese & Cooper
Right.
00:32:50
Cokeley Brothers
I think.
00:32:51
Reese & Cooper
i mean, i think he he I think he raised his level. I think Caliendo got better, really. I think that's what it really boiled down to. I think it just he's getting better throughout the season.
00:33:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. Now, if they wrestle again, they will likely wrestle again NCAAs. They're the one in the two. Yeah. I don't think anybody can disrupt that. Who's going to stop it?
00:33:16
Cokeley Brothers
The only person, the only possible person would be Ramirez.
00:33:17
Reese & Cooper
Veraclaw, Hall.
00:33:20
Cokeley Brothers
Right?
00:33:20
Reese & Cooper
Ramirez. There's a few guys.
00:33:22
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, Hall and Bearclaw have losses.
00:33:25
Reese & Cooper
i say so
00:33:26
Cokeley Brothers
Caliendo's only loss is to Mesinbrink.
00:33:27
Reese & Cooper
they Are you talking about seating?
00:33:29
Cokeley Brothers
I want to see Mesinbrink and Bearclaw.
00:33:33
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:33:34
Reese & Cooper
Oh, okay.
00:33:35
Cokeley Brothers
yeah I'm not even thinking about guys that can win and lose. Okay.
00:33:39
Reese & Cooper
Uh, restroom?
00:33:42
Reese & Cooper
He's weak.
00:33:43
Cokeley Brothers
Um...
00:33:45
Reese & Cooper
was leaving my phones right
00:33:47
Cokeley Brothers
But I mean, yeah, it doesn't, I don't, I'm not ruling out the probability or the possibility that Mesenbrink just goes out there and and majors Caliendo again.
00:33:57
Reese & Cooper
wow
00:33:57
Cokeley Brothers
Probably not.
00:33:59
Reese & Cooper
okay
00:33:59
Cokeley Brothers
That's definitely possible. I could, I think.
00:34:01
Reese & Cooper
I mean, I was leaning towards that the next time they wrestle, honestly.
00:34:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:07
Reese & Cooper
Just got make it out that first period 0-0. I feel like that's the recipe for success. zero zero
00:34:13
Cokeley Brothers
Kind of a, kind of a Spencer Lee approach.
00:34:18
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
00:34:19
Cokeley Brothers
Right?
00:34:19
Reese & Cooper
Don't get, just don't get, because yeah I feel like once the, like the momentum, it seems like a big thing for Messamuric and a big thing for Caliendo.
00:34:20
Cokeley Brothers
little bit.
00:34:26
Reese & Cooper
Like once he gives up the first like takedown, it's those other takedowns come a lot easier.
00:34:33
Cokeley Brothers
You think so?
00:34:34
Reese & Cooper
That's what it looks like.
00:34:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:34:35
Reese & Cooper
Every time they wrestle, it looks like Caliendo comes out there and gets the first takedown.
00:34:35
Cokeley Brothers
I don't ah i don't know.
00:34:42
Reese & Cooper
What's on?
00:34:45
Cokeley Brothers
But I do, I don't, I don't disagree because
00:34:47
Reese & Cooper
Oh, yeah.
00:34:48
Cokeley Brothers
That was post-mobile.
00:34:50
Reese & Cooper
I'll ask this one.
00:34:53
Cokeley Brothers
With the way Mezenbrink beat Mantonona, right he gives up the first takedown. The only takedown he's given up all year. I'm pretty sure. and And then just you know gets up, gets out, and then just puts the paws on him and beats him 25-8.
00:35:06
Cokeley Brothers
some twenty five to eight
00:35:10
Cokeley Brothers
I, Mesenbrink definitely feels something when he's wrestling, when he's wrestling opponents. He can feel the reactions that he's getting in terms of the hand fight and and where he's able to move the, his opponent over the, all over the mat.
00:35:21
Cokeley Brothers
And that's what you saw with him against Mantenona. So yeah, i um
00:35:30
Cokeley Brothers
I think, I think the only guy that can get the job done right now against Mesenbrink is Caliendo. And it's still, it's still a serious effort to get it done. So. You don't think Bearclaw can do it?
00:35:42
Cokeley Brothers
No, I don't. Why? Don't you think he has most experience with him? Yeah, I mean, but that that doesn't necessarily equate to like, oh, I know how to get the job done, right?
00:35:55
Cokeley Brothers
It does. I don't think so. There's merit to it, but I don't think it's going to be the key. What's the key? Kind like what Reece said and and in the way Caliendo wrestled and and just...
00:36:09
Cokeley Brothers
slowing down the pace of the match. And and not just that, because some people will try and do that, but they're they're evading the hand fight, right? If you are able to, you know, kind of knock Mezenbrink out of his rhythm and and start to dictate the match your way, that's that's how you win matches, right? And so that's how you get a better chance against a guy like Mezenbrink.
00:36:31
Cokeley Brothers
Other notable results from this wait. Mantanona takes third. ah so Andrew Sparks takes fourth. Mayfield or skulls takes fifth Mayfield sixth. The three seed Chris Minto down at eighth seventh. It goes to Patty Gallagher.
00:36:46
Cokeley Brothers
Patty Gallagher. I have a little bit of a little bit of a bone to pick with. i don't I don't understand this. So Gallagher wins his first match. He beats Max Mayfield and then he wrestles for one second against Mezen Brink and says that is hurt. Injury default.
00:37:01
Cokeley Brothers
I'm hurt. Right. Next match backside against Tyler Lillard goes out and wrestles when seven to four. It's about that. That was the next day, right? No. I don't know.
00:37:12
Cokeley Brothers
Sorry. Continue.
00:37:13
Reese & Cooper
Why are debating for Tom Ryan?
00:37:13
Cokeley Brothers
so
00:37:17
Reese & Cooper
Ryan.
00:37:17
Cokeley Brothers
What?
00:37:18
Reese & Cooper
Ryan is defending Tom Ryan.
00:37:18
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yeah.
00:37:20
Reese & Cooper
First Nick Bousakis, now Patty Gallagher.
00:37:22
Cokeley Brothers
I'm trying to defend Patty Gallagher. All right.
00:37:25
Reese & Cooper
ah you Are you going to tell me that Ryder Rogotsky didn't spike whoever he spiked, Cardagino Walsh?
00:37:25
Cokeley Brothers
I like Patty.
00:37:31
Cokeley Brothers
Shane Carter, my Walsh. Totally legal.
00:37:35
Reese & Cooper
yeah
00:37:36
Cokeley Brothers
like The definition of illegal.
00:37:40
Cokeley Brothers
No. um I mean, I just don't get it, right? Because i mean normally you would you would you should be able to say, oh if you can't finish a match, you can't finish the tournament. I think that's logical. Goodell telling his wrestler to stay on the mat. That was cowardice.
00:37:55
Cokeley Brothers
Shameful. Did he tell him to stay the mat? We saw... Okay. right. Let's get 184.
00:37:58
Reese & Cooper
Stay on the mat.
00:37:59
Cokeley Brothers
one eighty four 184. Stay down. Stay down.
00:38:03
Reese & Cooper
Stay down.
00:38:03
Cokeley Brothers
184. Whoa.
00:38:05
Reese & Cooper
he say that? Stay down.
00:38:06
Cokeley Brothers
no, The reason he said stay down because he he was trying to stand up and he was falling over. Stay down, dude. He was being a risk to himself. Stay down. Ryan's just playing devil's advocate right now.
00:38:17
Cokeley Brothers
Stay down.
00:38:18
Reese & Cooper
He loves Tom Ryan. I forgot that he loves Tom Ryan.
00:38:20
Cokeley Brothers
We're going screw it Ohio State guy.
00:38:23
Reese & Cooper
And
00:38:25
Cokeley Brothers
and you Look, at the end of the day, it's fine. Rogotsky got an at-large bid. They're both at the tournament. I don't know if Walsh will be... Sammy, stay down. No one ever told me that.
00:38:37
Cokeley Brothers
No one ever said that to me. I'm saying it to you right now. Okay.
00:38:41
Reese & Cooper
Big, big chain guy.
00:38:41
Cokeley Brothers
um huh
00:38:44
Reese & Cooper
Big positive infinity guy, Ryan.
00:38:47
Cokeley Brothers
ah That's me. Alright, 174. Levi Haynes dominates. I cried when Bo Nickel flipped over Miles Martin and pinned him.
00:38:58
Cokeley Brothers
I cried so hard.
00:38:58
Reese & Cooper
I remember that.
00:39:02
Cokeley Brothers
I did not cry. Tears of joy, maybe.
00:39:08
Cokeley Brothers
Anything. That was so cool.
00:39:10
Reese & Cooper
That was great.
00:39:11
Cokeley Brothers
That was an amazing day.
00:39:13
Reese & Cooper
What were you doing, Sammy?
00:39:13
Cokeley Brothers
All right. Anyway. 174.
00:39:14
Reese & Cooper
Where were you when that happened?
00:39:17
Cokeley Brothers
and he i was like right next to you guys. He was with us.
00:39:19
Reese & Cooper
No, you weren't.
00:39:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:39:19
Reese & Cooper
You were with Dad on the other end of the stadium, arena, whatever.
00:39:23
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, this was, yeah, yeah, yeah. this I just remember Reese being like, look at those guys and pointing over to Flow Wrestling people over in the media area. Because they were putting, it there weren't they like trying to put together a ah doc about the Ohio State team that year?
00:39:35
Cokeley Brothers
Their video is ruined.
00:39:36
Reese & Cooper
You know they were. It's not official, but you can read between the lines.
00:39:41
Cokeley Brothers
Speculation. Yeah. Excuse me. ah I apologize. That was very rude. I'm apologizing profusely, Sammy. not even on the camera, dude.
00:39:53
Cokeley Brothers
You're apologizing to me? I thought you were apologizing to people. People. And you we'll tell we'll We'll tell them. you're part of the people Levi Haynes dominates this weight.
00:40:07
Cokeley Brothers
There was not much in terms...
00:40:07
Reese & Cooper
domination.
00:40:09
Cokeley Brothers
the The only person that could have given him a match and like responded was Carson Harschel and he... Lost to Dan Bronigal in the quarters.
00:40:20
Cokeley Brothers
Two times he loses to Bronigal.
00:40:21
Reese & Cooper
Two times.
00:40:22
Cokeley Brothers
Loses 10-7 on the front and 4-1 on the back. Lose two times, loser. Pinto in the finals gets majored by Haynes. Bronicle for third over Karchla.
00:40:32
Cokeley Brothers
Kennedy pinning Branson John for fifth. Branson John takes sixth. Branson John, i think, had like a losing record going into this this tournament. um what's what's What's that?
00:40:43
Cokeley Brothers
What are you doing over there? you going to hit me in the back? No, I'm asking a question.
00:40:45
Reese & Cooper
He has a question.
00:40:46
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, okay. Go ahead. I'm asking a question. um Who is this guy? ah Branson John.
00:40:52
Reese & Cooper
Who is this guy?
00:40:53
Cokeley Brothers
Let's oh
00:40:59
Reese & Cooper
who is this guy
00:40:59
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, he haded he had a good matt or good a good tournament, obviously. he Oh, and the Oregon State guy. Who are these guys? Oh, TJ McDonald. That's what I was trying to go. i was like, why is there a trend of guys who are relative nobodies?
00:41:14
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, honestly, i have a little bit a theory for that. Now, it doesn't really work with the TJ McDonald guy because he wrestled all of these guys. But i think with the overall relative trend to downsize the number of matches that you wrestle throughout the year, we obviously don't get as many matchups.
00:41:33
Cokeley Brothers
And because of that, we get an increase in um unexpected results in the postseason. I see your theory. But, but, the TJ McDonald win and the Branson John performance and Tristan Daughtry beating Richie Figueroa.
00:41:50
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, Vinny Zerbin winning 157 and, and, and, um, like reset Kobe Seabrook. Yeah, but like Kobe Seabrook beating Cody, like Cody, grace Cody Chittum took sixth. He took, he took the slide.
00:42:02
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but we knew Cody Chittum was capable of doing stuff like that.
00:42:05
Reese & Cooper
Yeah, he's Space Mountain, big time.
00:42:07
Cokeley Brothers
He is space man. Yeah. i don't know. It's just... ah It was a very exciting... Oh, crap. It was a very exciting ah conference weekend.
00:42:19
Reese & Cooper
I was very excited.
00:42:19
Cokeley Brothers
So, branson Branson John's current record is fourteen and seventeen whoa i mean... uh, Patrick Kennedy, Danny Bronigle, both teched him. Lucas Condon majored him. Cesar Garza beat him.
00:42:31
Cokeley Brothers
Brevin Casella pinned him. Jack McGill. Oh, that's enough. No more, no more slander. I mean, yeah he, he has some losses, but so he goes out and he gets wins over Brody Baum and Clayton Whiting and Jackson Turley. And he, it's top six at big tens. It's a great result for him. So, um, um Yeah, i mean but he also kept it to 8-1 against Levi Haynes. That's not bad.
00:42:54
Cokeley Brothers
That's not bad. He's got moments. He's got moments. fourteen seventeen Now, if you want to talk about TJ McDonald. All of the likes.
00:43:02
Reese & Cooper
We don't have to talk about TJ McConnell.
00:43:02
Cokeley Brothers
So this guy came into... What, you don't want to about TJ McDonald? We don't have to. Why not? i mean let me Let me get this out real quick. bump um bu So his his record going into...
00:43:15
Cokeley Brothers
His record going into the postseason is 5-13.
00:43:16
Reese & Cooper
All other likes.
00:43:20
Cokeley Brothers
He's the four-seated Pac-12s. Turn up the lights in here, baby.
00:43:29
Cokeley Brothers
done Extra bright, I want y'all to see this. All right, 184. one eighty four
00:43:41
Cokeley Brothers
ah Carter Stracci winning in sudden victory over Max McInerney. That was a great match. This was an unexpected surprise. Was it, though? I didn't expect Max McInerney to give him a ah match.
00:43:52
Cokeley Brothers
I expect him to keep it close. Maybe a one-takedown match.
00:43:54
Reese & Cooper
I didn't know he'd take him down.
00:43:55
Cokeley Brothers
I mean... Yeah. Yeah, well...
00:44:00
Reese & Cooper
He took him down pretty easy too.
00:44:00
Cokeley Brothers
Like I said, you guys just not plugged in like me, so...
00:44:04
Reese & Cooper
He snatched his ankle and made him look foolish.
00:44:07
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah, I mean... do do Do we feel like McAnally can improve on that result? Can he replicate it? Or Starachi going to widen the gap?
00:44:18
Reese & Cooper
ah the find the The latter.
00:44:19
Cokeley Brothers
first of all First of all, I hope Parker Kekheisen gets the one seed over Starachi so we can see Starachi and McAnally again.
00:44:31
Reese & Cooper
we've got to make sure that McAnally gets...
00:44:32
Cokeley Brothers
Wait, why not? thought it before
00:44:34
Reese & Cooper
Yeah. We've just got to make sure that McAnally and Storacci are on the same side. That's all that matters.
00:44:40
Cokeley Brothers
No, we want them on opposite sides.
00:44:41
Reese & Cooper
Yes. No, I want them on the same side so he can get another shot.
00:44:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, give them another shot. Okay, so so you want you want either... um wanted to go Parker, Keck, Isaac, Carter, Strachey, McAnally, Dustin Platt.
00:44:50
Reese & Cooper
I want Carter to have the toughest path.
00:44:55
Cokeley Brothers
That's how I wanted to go. you But it's probably not going to be. Okay.
00:44:58
Reese & Cooper
What you think it's going to be?
00:45:02
Cokeley Brothers
I think Strachey is going to get the one seed due to coach's rank and things like that.
00:45:06
Reese & Cooper
Right.
00:45:07
Cokeley Brothers
um, Kekeisen the two, and then... Plot the three?
00:45:11
Reese & Cooper
Block the three.
00:45:12
Cokeley Brothers
Macanelli the four? I mean, that would be that would be ideal for you guys.
00:45:15
Reese & Cooper
That would be ideal for you guys.
00:45:16
Cokeley Brothers
I'll take that as well.
00:45:18
Reese & Cooper
would that Would that be wrong? i don't think that'd be wrong.
00:45:23
Cokeley Brothers
Well, the Angelo Ferrari loss, does that matter? Where do you hang that? You probably don't count it. probably doing not you do don't You don't factor it in, i don't think. Other than a number as a loss.
00:45:33
Reese & Cooper
thought.
00:45:35
Cokeley Brothers
Um...
00:45:38
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. Extra bright. I want y'all to see this. I don't know. I mean, it it's going to come down to just however they draw it out. Yeah.
00:45:47
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
00:45:49
Cokeley Brothers
yeah Ed Ruth taking third. Jackson Smith at fourth. Gabe Arnold at fifth. Silas Allred at sixth. DJ Washington for seventh. And Cartagena Walsh for eighth.
00:46:03
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, we never got to see Starachi Gabe Arnold. We could see it if he's like I know, the 16 seed or something like that. eighty He's not going to get the AC.
00:46:13
Cokeley Brothers
don't think you'll get the AC AC.
00:46:13
Reese & Cooper
Why not?
00:46:16
Cokeley Brothers
He can definitely get the AC. Yeah. Really? Really? So going have, going get guys and plot. And then. Starachi, Mcannelly, however you mix up those four.
00:46:28
Cokeley Brothers
And then like Ruth Smith, all read somebody else. and then Arnold, like what about the 84 pounders in the ACC?
00:46:35
Reese & Cooper
Well, he'll get it over all red.
00:46:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:46:38
Cokeley Brothers
He lost.
00:46:38
Reese & Cooper
He'll get seen over all red.
00:46:39
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, no. He beat Allred. He beat Allred. He beat Allred. But he also lost to him.
00:46:43
Reese & Cooper
Yeah, but he beat him.
00:46:43
Cokeley Brothers
He should get it. He should get it over him. He's also beaten Ruth and lost to him. Yeah, but he most recently beat Ruth. Or most recently, Ruth beat him. and So, Allred. So, Arnold go. Yeah. um Probably.
00:46:55
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. eight Eight or nine seed. Eight or nine seed. I think that probably does make sense. so But if he's down at like a 12 seed, that doesn't surprise me either. don't think.
00:47:08
Reese & Cooper
He's got good wins. so I don't know.
00:47:09
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:47:10
Reese & Cooper
ah
00:47:10
Cokeley Brothers
Cause you, cause you, mean, you saw Chris Foka in there too. He's probably a topic guy. Um, he's got one loss to Jackson Smith.
00:47:17
Reese & Cooper
oh but Yeah, what's his right record? Yeah,
00:47:21
Cokeley Brothers
That's a, I'm pretty sure.
00:47:23
Reese & Cooper
he should be pretty highly ranked then, right?
00:47:26
Cokeley Brothers
i think so. Um, yeah, I mean, this is, it's gonna be a good way. And I do hope we see, uh,
00:47:34
Reese & Cooper
So right now, Gabe is the 9. His number is ranked 9 on Intermat.
00:47:41
Reese & Cooper
So there you have it.
00:47:41
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:47:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:47:44
Reese & Cooper
9th seed.
00:47:45
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, ranking in seed a little different.
00:47:45
Reese & Cooper
9th seed for Gabe Arnold.
00:47:48
Cokeley Brothers
We'll see. yeah But that's probably right. He's right in there, I'm guessing. so
00:47:53
Reese & Cooper
He's in there, dog.
00:47:55
Cokeley Brothers
He's in there. I'm in there, 197, Cardenas comes out on top. Gets the win over Josh Barr in the semis and beats Buchanan in the finals. Probably your onesie?
00:48:06
Reese & Cooper
I didn't see that one coming.
00:48:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:48:09
Cokeley Brothers
No, i felt the I felt the win against Barr coming um because it just didn't feel like, it didn't seem like Barr had any the offense to be able to, you know, close the match.
00:48:22
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
00:48:23
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:48:23
Reese & Cooper
Other people thought differently.
00:48:26
Cokeley Brothers
Who?
00:48:27
Reese & Cooper
Other people.
00:48:28
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yeah.
00:48:28
Reese & Cooper
Penn State lovers.
00:48:29
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, well, yeah, there there's there are, look, people people will die for their team. I get it.
00:48:34
Reese & Cooper
Wrestling pundits.
00:48:36
Cokeley Brothers
Now, Josh Barr, little concerned about what things are going to look like for him in Philly. On the backside, about a minute into the match against Isaiah Salazar, messes up his legs somehow. I don't know if he pulled his hamstring or if he did something to his knee or maybe a calf issue. I don't know, but he could not finish the match.
00:48:56
Cokeley Brothers
So...
00:48:58
Reese & Cooper
No bueno.
00:49:00
Cokeley Brothers
you know he'll probably get ah He'll probably get a cortisone shot and he won't really feel it and he'll it'll be you know braced up in some way in whatever way it can be or taped up with KT tape. However going to need to get the job done.
00:49:11
Cokeley Brothers
tape doesn't really do much for you. I don't know, dude. Whatever's going to get the job done, right? And so we're going to see the best version of Josh Barr that Penn State can get out of him, but I don't know if it's quite going to be the same as what we've seen all year.
00:49:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. But yeah, I think Cardenas should be the one seed, right?
00:49:32
Reese & Cooper
You would think so.
00:49:35
Cokeley Brothers
Cardenas? Probably AJ Ferrari. Why? What are his wins? He's undefeated. But he's got one notable win. One notable win.
00:49:44
Reese & Cooper
He beat the fourteen two 14th ranked guy or whatever.
00:49:48
Cokeley Brothers
no Who?
00:49:50
Reese & Cooper
i don't know. Somebody.
00:49:51
Cokeley Brothers
Stem it.
00:49:51
Reese & Cooper
Nick Stemmett.
00:49:52
Cokeley Brothers
Stem it. yeah But he's beaten Little Rock. Yeah, Little little and... little and and um And he's got a comment over Trayvon.
00:50:05
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, I don't think it's enough. I really don't. And I don't i think Cardenas should be the one.
00:50:08
Reese & Cooper
It shouldn't be.
00:50:09
Cokeley Brothers
I think Cardenas has earned it. um He avenged his lone loss, and he beat Stephen Buchanan, who's... I mean, been the guy this year. So Cardenas, Ferrari, Buchanan? I mean, maybe even Cardenas, Buchanan, Ferrari.
00:50:26
Cokeley Brothers
um don't know. Didn't we see it that year with ah with Isaiah Martinez, Jason Nolfe? They both traded wins and losses. And then the three seed was NC State guy, right?
00:50:39
Reese & Cooper
Who?
00:50:39
Cokeley Brothers
Right?
00:50:40
Reese & Cooper
Tommy Gant?
00:50:41
Cokeley Brothers
Right? Yeah.
00:50:43
Reese & Cooper
Maybe.
00:50:43
Cokeley Brothers
I think. so like that I want to say so.
00:50:46
Reese & Cooper
Chad Walsh.
00:50:46
Cokeley Brothers
I know i know it was Gantt, but maybe I'm having the seeds wrong.
00:50:47
Reese & Cooper
Might
00:50:51
Cokeley Brothers
What was that, 2016?
00:50:53
Reese & Cooper
have been Chad Walsh.
00:50:55
Cokeley Brothers
No, it was it was Gantt.
00:50:57
Reese & Cooper
oh Well, with Chad Walsh is not an NC State guy, if that's what you're...
00:51:02
Cokeley Brothers
Gantt isn't?
00:51:03
Reese & Cooper
No, Gant is, but Walsh is a writer, dude.
00:51:06
Cokeley Brothers
I know that. I didn't say Walsh.
00:51:07
Reese & Cooper
Oh, you're saying Gant was the three seed for sure?
00:51:11
Cokeley Brothers
No, I think I might have, like, I think Gantt might have been the two and Nulph the three, actually.
00:51:16
Reese & Cooper
Yeah, I think Gant was the two seed.
00:51:16
Cokeley Brothers
think it's...
00:51:18
Reese & Cooper
He wasn't the three.
00:51:18
Cokeley Brothers
So...
00:51:21
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe... Let me just let me see here. 157. Yeah, yeah. Gantt was the two. Oh, he was only... twenty He was 28 and three. I thought he was undefeated.
00:51:31
Cokeley Brothers
Nulph was the three. I guess were his three losses...
00:51:38
Cokeley Brothers
At NCAAs. Yes, they were. Okay, that's why. He was undefeated going into NCAAs. Okay. um Yeah. don't know. We'll see how it plays out. I am interested to see how Ferrari... I mean, it's probably... Ferrari's probably going to be the guy.
00:51:51
Cokeley Brothers
He's so tough to take down, so... But I'm rooting for Cardenas. I know that.
00:51:59
Cokeley Brothers
ah Zach Bronigal takes third. Beats Isaiah Salazar. Salazar... Um, getting the job done. I'm not really getting the job done, but Josh bar and unable to finish that match.
00:52:10
Cokeley Brothers
Camden McDonnell takes fifth bar sixth. There you Lastly, two 85 Gables. Steven takes out Greg Kirk fleet, 10, three, no bonus points. So everybody has at least one non bonus point win this year.
00:52:28
Cokeley Brothers
So we won't see that. Um, But he gets the job done over Kirk. He majors Feldman. He texts Seth Nevels. Ben Keeter kind of quietly takes third on the backside.
00:52:41
Cokeley Brothers
Beats Heinzelman, beats Feldman. um Looks good. So... Looks like Ben Keeter... Putting things together for the postseason. i'd be the Might be the fourth best guy.
00:52:55
Cokeley Brothers
We'll see. Trumbull, I mean, Trumbull is a guy that everybody should, you know, realistically should be worried about. Was he hurt?
00:53:01
Reese & Cooper
He got hurt.
00:53:01
Cokeley Brothers
that why he didn't? Okay. I didn't know what happened to him at ACC's other than the fact that He was Sam. I told you. Okay. Jesus. um Feldman at fifth. Luffman at sixth.
00:53:15
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and that's this great.
00:53:16
Reese & Cooper
Question? Ryan?
00:53:18
Cokeley Brothers
Nope. What's up?
00:53:20
Reese & Cooper
you you know You had a question, Ryan?
00:53:22
Cokeley Brothers
No, I didn't.
00:53:23
Reese & Cooper
Oh, what were you doing?
00:53:25
Cokeley Brothers
Nothing. What are you talking about?
00:53:27
Reese & Cooper
Oh, okay.
00:53:30
Cokeley Brothers
Alright, I mean, you guys want to hop over to Killing it.
00:53:31
Reese & Cooper
and know You look like you're having a great time, dude.
00:53:34
Cokeley Brothers
Killing it over here.
00:53:35
Reese & Cooper
You're really just, you're just locked in, huh?
00:53:35
Cokeley Brothers
Loving life. Do you want to hop over to Big 12s now?
00:53:38
Reese & Cooper
one no no No nonsense for you.
00:53:43
Cokeley Brothers
how do you want to How do you want to look at this?
00:53:46
Reese & Cooper
and yeah we can just kind of, we don't, you know, we don't have to go full Willie Staler and list all the placings.
00:53:49
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:53:53
Cokeley Brothers
No, no, no. I hear you. But I do want to talk about some of these finals.
00:53:57
Reese & Cooper
Sure, yeah.
00:53:57
Cokeley Brothers
um particularly... Sorry. You have something to say? I don't want to go over all of them. Some of them are kind of like... it's like That's why I said some of these finals. Okay.
00:54:09
Cokeley Brothers
Like this one? This is one of those... Yeah. The first one I want to talk about. And there's there's some interesting things within the bracket.
00:54:15
Reese & Cooper
it let's let's Let's talk about Richie Figueroa real quick here.
00:54:15
Cokeley Brothers
He slipped. He slipped.
00:54:18
Reese & Cooper
What do we think about Richie Figueroa?
00:54:18
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Figueroa loses um in in the quarters to Tristan Daughtry, loses 4-2, comes out the backside, takes third and wins 8-3 against ah Lorenzo, who beat Daughtry. So, he's going to be a problem who with whoever he has to wrestle. I mean, I think he can beat Luke Lillardal.
00:54:40
Cokeley Brothers
I think he can beat... I mean, honestly, the guy that I don't think he he could beat is probably beat Matt Ramos. Yeah.
00:54:48
Reese & Cooper
I think he can beat at anybody, and I probably – might just pick him again.
00:54:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, he's still going to be a problem, but...
00:54:53
Reese & Cooper
mean,
00:54:57
Cokeley Brothers
don't know. you put it together again? Yeah, I don't know.
00:55:00
Reese & Cooper
i mean he looked – he didn't even – I feel like last season he didn't even – it wasn't even like – he was like clearly the better guy, and I feel like if he just wrestles like that, and then, yeah I mean, he'll be clearly the better guy again.
00:55:12
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, um i I don't disagree with any of that. I...
00:55:19
Cokeley Brothers
He's going to be a problem. I think he might get overlooked, especially he's probably not going to be seated that high. Probably what, like sixth or something like that?
00:55:28
Reese & Cooper
That would be pretty high.
00:55:28
Cokeley Brothers
but again We'll find out. I mean, for a returning NCAA champ? We'll find out tomorrow, right?
00:55:34
Reese & Cooper
That's how many matches?
00:55:36
Cokeley Brothers
He's 15-2 this year.
00:55:38
Reese & Cooper
Oh, that's actually 20.
00:55:38
Cokeley Brothers
One of those losses is not really... yeah and I mean, he's got a win over the Big 12 champ.
00:55:43
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
00:55:44
Cokeley Brothers
A major, I think, even. Speaking of big 12 champ, Jet Strickenberger beats Troy Spratly in the finals five to two off a sudden victory takedown. That was kind of handed to him.
00:55:54
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Spratly is, has, it has the match winning takedown or the match winning shot.
00:55:56
Reese & Cooper
Handed to him.
00:56:03
Cokeley Brothers
And then kind of is pivoting a bit and just loses his footing and starts to fall towards his butt. And, so and Strickenberger was right there to capitalize on it. And,
00:56:12
Reese & Cooper
That's what you get for trying to win in overtime. Waiting for overtime and then trying to win in overtime.
00:56:18
Cokeley Brothers
that
00:56:20
Reese & Cooper
That was dumb.
00:56:20
Cokeley Brothers
Did it feel like he was waiting?
00:56:22
Reese & Cooper
Well, if he wasn't waiting the whole match, he 100% was waiting in the final minute where he did absolutely nothing.
00:56:30
Cokeley Brothers
sure That's fair.
00:56:30
Reese & Cooper
Neither one of them did anything.
00:56:32
Cokeley Brothers
That's fair. ah they were They were definitely ah timid.
00:56:38
Reese & Cooper
I don't know why you'd want to do that. If you're Spratly, you should think, I'm the better guy here. Like, why don't I just take you to him and get in wrestling positions because I'm probably going to win that way.
00:56:45
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Scored points. Score points.
00:56:49
Reese & Cooper
Four points.
00:56:52
Cokeley Brothers
125 is absolute chaos. and It's not you know quite what it was last year. Strickenberger going to be the one seed? No, it'll it'll be Lilladol. or yeah It'll be Lilladol.
00:57:06
Cokeley Brothers
yeah Yeah, I think. I mean, Strickenberger's got I guess it says he only has two losses. He only has two losses at 125? Spencer Moore, Richie Figgs.
00:57:17
Cokeley Brothers
So does Liladol. Yeah, Liladol's got McCrone, Dean Peterson.
00:57:26
Reese & Cooper
It's probably going to be a little.
00:57:26
Cokeley Brothers
mom
00:57:26
Reese & Cooper
little else
00:57:28
Cokeley Brothers
Why wouldn't it be with Matt Ramos? One of them has a win over Matt Ramos. Yike. Why wouldn't Matt Ramos just keep the one seed? Right.
00:57:35
Reese & Cooper
Because he has a loss to Luke Lillard.
00:57:39
Cokeley Brothers
Just one loss, though. There's a similar argument for Bo Bartlett to have the seed.
00:57:41
Reese & Cooper
Yeah. but comp The conference, the conference champ should probably get the, I mean,
00:57:43
Cokeley Brothers
And took third.
00:57:48
Reese & Cooper
without a glaring, a glaringly like obvious flaw, me think McCrone is that bad.
00:57:52
Cokeley Brothers
McCrug.
00:57:55
Cokeley Brothers
McCrug. McCrug.
00:57:59
Reese & Cooper
i don't know. I feel like you can't give Ramos, Ramos lost head tohead to head the conference champ. So which where Bo Bartlett didn't lose head to head to the conference champ, which is,
00:58:04
Cokeley Brothers
Dean Peterson.
00:58:09
Cokeley Brothers
that's, this is kind of what I'm saying though, about like why Ramos should get the one seed and not.
00:58:17
Reese & Cooper
No, no, I'm saying Bartlett should get the one seed because he didn't lose head-to-head. Ramos shouldn't get the one seed because he did lose head-to-head.
00:58:27
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm following your logic, Yeah, but... That's also backwards.
00:58:39
Cokeley Brothers
I guess.
00:58:39
Reese & Cooper
No, it is not.
00:58:40
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it is.
00:58:41
Reese & Cooper
Why is it backwards?
00:58:41
Cokeley Brothers
ah Because it it is kind of... Wouldn't it look better if you got if you got beat by the guy who ends up winning it? Yeah, but a head-to-head further justifies putting that person over.
00:58:50
Reese & Cooper
It's not like the matrix is not going look at it that way.
00:58:54
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, like common opponents are not as heavily weighed as head-to-heads.
00:58:55
Reese & Cooper
which
00:58:59
Reese & Cooper
I don't even know if comment ah common opponents i don't even aren't even like a criteria in the matrix.
00:59:00
Cokeley Brothers
I guess.
00:59:03
Cokeley Brothers
I'm not even talking about common opponents necessarily, but... Is it is it that's ah just a criterion RPI, I think?
00:59:10
Reese & Cooper
I don't know, but it's not in the matrix as far as I know.
00:59:11
Cokeley Brothers
Something
00:59:14
Cokeley Brothers
like that? Okay. All I know is this. All I know is this. Matt Ramos should probably be the one seed at 125. And Andrew Alirez should probably the one seed at 141. Let me
00:59:31
Reese & Cooper
How many matches did Andrew Liras have?
00:59:34
Cokeley Brothers
let me pull that up real quick. That's the next way we're going to want look at anyway. Alirez 16-1 the year.
00:59:41
Reese & Cooper
Man, I'm surprised. that I didn't realize ah these guys had all those matches.
00:59:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but but it's because it's Northern Colorado's schedule.
00:59:45
Reese & Cooper
But he hasn't beaten anybody, really.
00:59:47
Cokeley Brothers
you don't They don't wrestle anybody. They wrestle nobody.
00:59:49
Reese & Cooper
Man.
00:59:49
Cokeley Brothers
Matt Ramos won the CKLV, took third at Big Tens.
00:59:55
Reese & Cooper
why Why would you give Alirez the one seed over Bartlett?
00:59:59
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, why would you do that? um
01:00:06
Cokeley Brothers
I guess, I don't know. yeah I mean, I don't think you can go wrong. I think there's a lot of options, and there's going to be an argument against... Most of them.
01:00:15
Reese & Cooper
I think it's, i mean, it should either be Bartlett or Hardy.
01:00:16
Cokeley Brothers
Bartlett doesn't have a national championship. That's all I can come up with.
01:00:21
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
01:00:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but that's that's just not criteria. Yes, it is. it's said It's secret, hidden criteria. yeah You know it is. Yeah, 140. yeah one forty Yeah, so lets let's let's hop up to 141 for the Big 12s.
01:00:39
Cokeley Brothers
As we said, Andrew Lira didn't win the conferences. So he's going to kill Happel the one seed. That's also, that's, no, he's twenty four and three He's got three losses.
01:00:45
Reese & Cooper
Can't give Kel Happel the one seed.
01:00:50
Cokeley Brothers
One of them is a Julian Tagg. Ooh, that's a good loss.
01:00:52
Reese & Cooper
Julian.
01:00:55
Cokeley Brothers
No, it's It's quality.
01:00:55
Reese & Cooper
Quality a loss, as they say.
01:00:59
Cokeley Brothers
what What's Julian Tagg's record this year? Julian Tagg's record 21-14. 16-11. that was close.
01:01:03
Reese & Cooper
a lot to a little.
01:01:09
Cokeley Brothers
was close
01:01:10
Reese & Cooper
You were close.
01:01:12
Cokeley Brothers
ah But yeah, can goes man no this man sort of I was kind of not expecting you to be that close. Kale Happel wins this bracket where Andrew Leros takes third. Leros loses in the semis to tag in Jameson.
01:01:27
Cokeley Brothers
I'm saying it right.
01:01:28
Reese & Cooper
Got it.
01:01:29
Cokeley Brothers
tagging And yeah, I mean, it's weird that Jameson because Jameson's lost to Happel twice now, right?
01:01:41
Reese & Cooper
Two times.
01:01:43
Cokeley Brothers
kind of can't seem to get i mean it was so It was a right out match.
01:01:44
Reese & Cooper
Two times.
01:01:46
Cokeley Brothers
i yeah
01:01:49
Reese & Cooper
i don't I don't know what to think of Jameson, dude. He's hard to get a read on.
01:01:53
Cokeley Brothers
little bit. He beat Brock Hardy. He did beat Brock Hardy. I think Brock Hardy right now, what we're seeing is different from what we saw earlier this year. yeah That's how it always is with Mr. Brock Hardy.
01:02:06
Cokeley Brothers
A guy... but actually, I'm going to look this up real quick. Somebody that we haven't talked about it this weight Josh Coderhant.
Wrestler Matches and Outcomes
01:02:17
Cokeley Brothers
He is 23-3 year. his losses are who
01:02:25
Reese & Cooper
Von Bar is one of them.
01:02:26
Cokeley Brothers
wow
01:02:27
Reese & Cooper
That's all I know. Maybe Mendez. Mendez beat
Brock Hardy's Seed Debate
01:02:30
Reese & Cooper
him too.
01:02:30
Cokeley Brothers
and does at c klv right Yeah, Mendes at CKLV, Brock Hardy at CKLV, and Brock Hardy at the Navy Classic. So he does not have a loss to Vance Von Bar.
01:02:42
Reese & Cooper
ah he beat Vance Von Bar.
01:02:43
Cokeley Brothers
He's got losses to Brock Hardy and Jesse Mendes. Honestly, brock hardy should have Brock Hardy should get the one seed. I think that makes the most sense. Give Brock the one seed. He beat Jesse Mendes, returning national champ. He beat Vance Von Bar, who beat Bo Bartlett.
01:02:54
Cokeley Brothers
um And he has ah he has a win over Cale Happel this year, right? You've sold me.
Big 12 Predictions Recap
01:02:58
Reese & Cooper
I think he lost to
01:03:00
Cokeley Brothers
He did lose Oh, he did lose it. Yep. You've unsold me. Give it back to Alirez. Does he have a win over Tag? No, jim he has ah he has a loss over Jamison, or a loss against Jamison. so Yeah, that's okay. Give it to Alirez. I don't know what to do with this weight.
01:03:15
Cokeley Brothers
Alirez.
01:03:15
Reese & Cooper
Just give it to Bo Barlow. That's what makes most sense.
01:03:17
Cokeley Brothers
Moving on to 49. No, moving on to, wait, you want to do 149? Panera Johnson beat Conry Budo. Okay. fifty seven
01:03:25
Reese & Cooper
Silky Johnston.
01:03:25
Cokeley Brothers
57. Did you call that, Reese?
01:03:29
Reese & Cooper
I got five right in the Big 12s. Five out of ten, which was pretty good, in all things considered.
01:03:33
Cokeley Brothers
Nice.
01:03:35
Cokeley Brothers
When did I get in the Big 12? Let me see. I have no
Keegan O'Toole vs Dean Hamity Analysis
01:03:39
Cokeley Brothers
idea. I mean, nobody got Vinny Zerbin.
01:03:42
Reese & Cooper
Vinny Zerbin. Did anybody get Dom Serrano? Jet Strickenberger?
01:03:47
Cokeley Brothers
I picked T.
01:03:48
Reese & Cooper
Carter Happel?
01:03:48
Cokeley Brothers
Travis. I picked Wyatt Hendrickson and Parker Kickeisen.
01:03:50
Reese & Cooper
Or Taylor Happel?
01:03:53
Cokeley Brothers
That's probably it. I probably picked Jameson.
01:03:56
Reese & Cooper
I picked Volker.
01:03:56
Cokeley Brothers
I picked Real Budo, which was wrong. fixed Did you really pick Volker?
01:04:02
Reese & Cooper
I did. I picked Volker.
01:04:03
Cokeley Brothers
You're a monster. I picked Wyatt.
01:04:06
Reese & Cooper
I almost got Steve too. Steve almost got it down, then he picked bottom and couldn't get our way can get out.
01:04:10
Cokeley Brothers
I picked... I can't remember if I... I have it written down on my board, but I can't remember if I picked Mitty or O'Toole. I feel like I picked O'Toole.
01:04:21
Reese & Cooper
I don't think either one of you guys picked O'Toole. You guys were hating on O'Toole.
01:04:24
Cokeley Brothers
um um I did pick Hall. I know I picked Hall. I don't hate on O'Toole.
01:04:28
Reese & Cooper
You weren't hating on
01:04:28
Cokeley Brothers
I just believe in Hamity.
01:04:30
Reese & Cooper
You were loving on him, Eddie.
01:04:31
Cokeley Brothers
Yes.
Keegan O'Toole's Season Performance
01:04:32
Cokeley Brothers
Thank you.
01:04:32
Reese & Cooper
Erroneously.
01:04:33
Cokeley Brothers
I know, I was too. That's why I don't feel like I didn't pick O'Toole, but like part of me might have picked... Part of me might have been like, I'll pick O'Toole now and then pick Hamity at national champion.
01:04:43
Reese & Cooper
That might have been what you did.
01:04:44
Cokeley Brothers
Let's let's talk about this weight. 174. Keegan O'Toole beats Dean Hamity. sudden victory. Oh, I got Keck Eisen correct too. So I either got... I got at least 3, maybe 4 correct.
01:04:57
Reese & Cooper
You better than four?
01:04:59
Cokeley Brothers
five 5.
01:05:01
Cokeley Brothers
What did you get? What did you get that I didn't get?
01:05:04
Reese & Cooper
I got 49, Volker, Wyatt, Parker, and then one other one, I don't know.
01:05:05
Cokeley Brothers
and No, Volker. I thought you said you picked...
01:05:11
Cokeley Brothers
No, you picked Teague Travis with me.
01:05:13
Reese & Cooper
Of 74.
01:05:14
Cokeley Brothers
At 49.
01:05:16
Reese & Cooper
No, I didn't. why would i pick Why would I ever pick Teague Travis?
01:05:17
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, you did. Because we were riding together with it. We were. okay
01:05:25
Reese & Cooper
You know me. I love...
01:05:26
Cokeley Brothers
Look.
01:05:28
Reese & Cooper
PJ.
01:05:29
Cokeley Brothers
Silkies.
01:05:30
Reese & Cooper
Okay.
01:05:32
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Man, Silky Filky. That would have great name for him. That never happened? Silky Smooth.
01:05:38
Reese & Cooper
That's crazy.
01:05:39
Cokeley Brothers
But Silky Filky. No, but that's how he came up with Silky Smooth. Silky Smooth. I don't know. I like Silky Filky.
01:05:46
Reese & Cooper
That's better.
01:05:48
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yeah, 174. Match of the weekend, in my opinion. Keegan O'Toole beating Dean Hammity. Great wrestling. And I believe it's... It's...
01:05:59
Cokeley Brothers
it shows you Keegan O'Toole is there. Yes. But it also shows you that Dean Hamity can wrestle with these guys. Okay.
01:06:04
Reese & Cooper
It showed me, this was what it showed me. That was the best Dean Hammity has ever wrestled. And two, that was not the best that Keegan O'Toole has ever wrestled.
01:06:15
Cokeley Brothers
I, okay. I don't disagree with that. I feel like Keegan O'Toole has been lethargic this year. That's,
01:06:21
Reese & Cooper
He looked quite lethargic that match. I wouldn't say he looked lethargic against Haynes. I think he looked really good against Haynes.
01:06:28
Cokeley Brothers
i Dude, I mean, I felt like he's wrestled this very lax, aloof way since non-Olympic world team trials. I felt like that's how he wrestled there, and I feel like that's how he's wrestling
Debate on Seedings and Rankings
01:06:39
Cokeley Brothers
now.
01:06:39
Reese & Cooper
he oh If you look at his like a lot of his regular season matches, he's had ah matches in the regular season where he's had to like go out and get it late, being down. like Peyton Hall has done it to him. Ramirez did it to him.
01:06:54
Reese & Cooper
um Those are the only two examples I've ever seen.
01:06:55
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yeah, yeah. Like previous seasons is what you're saying.
01:06:57
Reese & Cooper
Yes.
01:06:58
Cokeley Brothers
yeah Yeah, especially Peyton Hall. yeah
01:07:01
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
01:07:02
Cokeley Brothers
Peyton Hall had found... you know He recognized the patterns in the in the boss a little bit um
01:07:09
Reese & Cooper
got the confidence. but That's how should be.
01:07:10
Cokeley Brothers
so bit. man i'm I'm excited for... going have O'Toole 1, Haynes 2, and Hamity 3. We get Haynes-Hamity, and then we get the winner of that, O'Toole. Those are great matches.
01:07:27
Reese & Cooper
That's how you want it to fall.
01:07:29
Cokeley Brothers
Right, and a dude, honestly, it could be... This could be like a... Like a... Some sort of story. If Dean Hamity can get it done, that's great for him. But also...
01:07:39
Cokeley Brothers
i Anybody.
01:07:40
Reese & Cooper
Where do we think Carter Hartzler falls in the bracket?
01:07:43
Cokeley Brothers
Carson Hartzler?
01:07:45
Reese & Cooper
Yeah, Carson.
01:07:46
Cokeley Brothers
um Carter.
01:07:48
Reese & Cooper
Carter.
01:07:49
Cokeley Brothers
idiot Idiot. Carson, I don't know, because he took those two losses to Danny Bronigal. Are you just asking the seed?
01:07:56
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
01:07:57
Cokeley Brothers
Um... Six?
01:07:59
Reese & Cooper
He's in the... What?
01:08:01
Cokeley Brothers
Six?
01:08:04
Reese & Cooper
Six... Six seed?
01:08:05
Cokeley Brothers
Six seed, right?
01:08:07
Reese & Cooper
Probably not. I don't know.
01:08:09
Cokeley Brothers
Really? Pinto above him?
01:08:13
Cokeley Brothers
Danny B above him?
01:08:14
Reese & Cooper
Man, dude, Danny Bonico, I'm looking at the ranking.
01:08:14
Cokeley Brothers
Danny's got some losses.
01:08:16
Reese & Cooper
He was at 20. He was 25. He's 12
01:08:19
Cokeley Brothers
He had some losses this year, man. I mean...
01:08:22
Reese & Cooper
and first one was ridiculous, dude.
01:08:24
Cokeley Brothers
um he didn't He did not have a great regular season. to So to see him go out there and beat Carson Hartzler, not once, but twice.
01:08:37
Reese & Cooper
First one was. Dude rolled to his own back. to
01:08:40
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:08:40
Reese & Cooper
He said, you know what? I don't want to go to overtime. Let me roll my own back. You win.
01:08:44
Cokeley Brothers
Honestly, Brevin Casella's going to have have a decentency decent seed.
01:08:50
Reese & Cooper
man
01:08:52
Cokeley Brothers
Simon Ruiz? Maybe. Maybe. He got majored by Miles Tackett's.
01:08:59
Reese & Cooper
This is an interesting way, no doubt.
01:09:02
Cokeley Brothers
Matty Singleton, 17-7, but wins the ACC's.
01:09:08
Cokeley Brothers
Did Lenny Wolak not qualify? oh No, he qualified. He he qualifie he qualified. Okay. Okay. um I was going to say Nick and Contreras be up there, but he's had a bad finish to the season.
Colton Schultz's Match Controversy
01:09:22
Cokeley Brothers
So... um Yeah, I don't know.
01:09:23
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know what this is guy i i have no idea what this is going to look like. MJ Gaetan took third at Big 12, so maybe throw him in there somewhere. Because, like, K-Devos would have been a name, but i don't know.
01:09:31
Reese & Cooper
Yeah, you look good.
01:09:37
Cokeley Brothers
Gaetan pinned him. time Gaetan.
01:09:40
Reese & Cooper
got him.
01:09:41
Cokeley Brothers
Gaetan was losing 9-0 and got a reversal and pinned him. Gaetan looked good, dude.
01:09:45
Reese & Cooper
Heck yeah.
01:09:47
Cokeley Brothers
That's... Alright, yeah. um Yeah, 184 happened, 197 happened, 285. Wyatt Hendrickson wins 8-5. boy Did he hurt his shoulder?
01:10:00
Cokeley Brothers
What did he hurt? Yeah, he hurt something.
01:10:01
Reese & Cooper
He heard something.
01:10:03
Cokeley Brothers
I fell asleep. I didn't see anything, so...
01:10:06
Reese & Cooper
He literally like took a shot um and then dropped to his knees and called for injury time. And then Schultz ran behind him as he was wa waving his finger for injury time and ah blew it dead and Zeke went nuts.
01:10:13
Cokeley Brothers
Shoot.
01:10:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:10:24
Reese & Cooper
And I'm like, and now people are like, oh, he was going to get taken down. Shut the hell up. Call it injury time as he's been taken down? No. It's not what happened.
01:10:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, interesting.
01:10:36
Reese & Cooper
But, dude, Schultz, he looked really good.
01:10:37
Cokeley Brothers
Was this early on in the match?
01:10:40
Reese & Cooper
No, it was like in the third period.
01:10:42
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, okay.
01:10:42
Reese & Cooper
but Did you see the match like earlier?
01:10:45
Cokeley Brothers
No, I stayed awake. I forced myself to stay awake for 174, then after that, i
01:10:52
Reese & Cooper
Schultz got a ah standing reversal and then went side headlock, pulled him
01:10:55
Cokeley Brothers
right to near fall.
01:10:59
Reese & Cooper
backwards I think for a two backwards yes two yeah and then man yeah I don't know he didn't seem to concede the match but he took dude he took a shot that was so fast like outside step shot and i was like dude why don't you do that like what the
01:10:59
Cokeley Brothers
holy He pulled the, the Hendrickson on him. Wow. That's
01:11:12
Cokeley Brothers
in the second.
01:11:19
Cokeley Brothers
Do that. Do that more often,
Upcoming Brackets and Future Matches
01:11:22
Reese & Cooper
hell
01:11:22
Cokeley Brothers
right? Yeah, no, I get it. I agree. um yeah Colton Schultz i don't know because he probably can't he probably can't get anything done against Kirk Fleet and Steveson but don't know because he was able to like kind of stifle Steveson do you remember that
01:11:32
Reese & Cooper
This your last ride, bro.
01:11:38
Reese & Cooper
That's not true. mean, Ethan, yes.
01:11:44
Reese & Cooper
Yeah.
01:11:48
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know maybe yeah maybe he's putting it all together maybe he's give it a go
01:11:52
Reese & Cooper
Just give it just, you know, have some give a shit, I guess. I don't know.
01:11:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:11:57
Reese & Cooper
He just doesn't look like he cares most the time.
01:11:57
Cokeley Brothers
No, I agree. I agree. I agree. um Yeah, okay. So that's big tens and big twelves.
01:12:08
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know if you guys want to look at anything else. You're checked out. you're You're done.
01:12:11
Reese & Cooper
Yeah, I think we did it.
01:12:13
Cokeley Brothers
You're asleep in the back of the car right now. I'm driving.
01:12:18
Cokeley Brothers
Reese is in the passenger seat keeping me company.
01:12:18
Reese & Cooper
Yeah, you don't get to you know' get to try drive anymore.
01:12:19
Cokeley Brothers
He's my... Yeah, your driving was... He almost crashed us.
01:12:24
Reese & Cooper
You've been revoked.
01:12:26
Cokeley Brothers
For now. We'll get you back on the road one day. Don't worry. I'm a better driver than both of you combined. Your son has ah has ah has a grand total of zero words.
01:12:33
Reese & Cooper
Too many premiums on your insurance.
01:12:35
Cokeley Brothers
What you say, Reese? lot of premiums.
01:12:37
Reese & Cooper
I said you, too many premiums on your insurance.
01:12:39
Cokeley Brothers
Zero premiums.
01:12:43
Cokeley Brothers
Zero. Okay. Yeah. How many on yours, though, Reese?
01:12:47
Reese & Cooper
what the
01:12:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that's right.
01:12:48
Reese & Cooper
No comment.
01:12:50
Cokeley Brothers
That's right. At least seven. Maybe even eight.
01:12:52
Reese & Cooper
Seven.
01:12:53
Cokeley Brothers
but thank nick Okay. So... Sorry. um
01:13:01
Cokeley Brothers
That's it. So all 330, I guess 340 wrestlers with the alternates are announced and out. The brackets will be announced. Reese, do you know when? Are they doing the seeds tomorrow?
01:13:11
Reese & Cooper
Tomorrow night.
01:13:13
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. There you go. um And so we'll have our brackets and maybe while you're still here, we'll do a preview?
01:13:22
Reese & Cooper
ah
01:13:22
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, maybe.
01:13:22
Reese & Cooper
ah Yeah, preview. We got to do it.
01:13:24
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe we'll see. Let see how fast I can put these brackets together on the spreadsheet. The Excel? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, you got nothing but time. know. That's why grabbed couple of your books here. was going to check them out.
01:13:36
Cokeley Brothers
He's going to read some of the books from my bookshelf.
Wrap-Up and Farewell
01:13:38
Cokeley Brothers
Mm-hmm. So. Cooper, closing words.
01:13:41
Reese & Cooper
Closing thoughts? Um...
01:13:48
Cokeley Brothers
Closing time. One last call for alcohol. So gather your... Help me out here. No? Okay.
01:13:59
Reese & Cooper
Finish up your whiskey or beer.
01:14:02
Cokeley Brothers
Thank you. that's why That's what it is.
01:14:06
Cokeley Brothers
Sammy. What's up? want you to...
01:14:11
Reese & Cooper
When are you guys going to drink other under the table?
01:14:12
Cokeley Brothers
this podcast down.
01:14:14
Reese & Cooper
but you guys going to drink each other under the table
01:14:16
Cokeley Brothers
All right. Everybody have a good day. Goodbye.