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Session 63 - Regular Season Concluded + Senior Level Excitement
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We go over the thrilling end to the regular season of college wrestling with Iowa taking out Oklahoma State. We take a look at how each weight class is shaping up for the post season, who is poised to make a run and who we hope to see. Flowrestling is also hosting their Night In America Freestyle card: Lee vs Ono as we are recording. Lastly, the second Ranking Series event of the year is ongoing with a handful of notable USA and high-level foreigner results to boot!
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Transcript
Babies React to Shaving
00:00:00
Ryne
This one likes to grab my beard whenever she can.
00:00:03
Cokeley Brothers
That's what babies do.
00:00:04
Reese
Babies love beards.
00:00:06
Cokeley Brothers
Babies love beards. BLB.
00:00:07
Ryne
She just grabs it and then she yanks.
00:00:10
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:00:10
Ryne
right
00:00:10
Cokeley Brothers
She's trying to pull herself up by the by the beer strands beard strands.
00:00:11
Ryne
yeah Oh man, let me tell you it hurts. I wonder what she's gonna how she's gonna react after I shave this off.
00:00:21
Reese
Dude, have you seen videos of dads doing that to their kids?
00:00:23
Ryne
Yeah, yeah.
00:00:25
Cokeley Brothers
they They cry.
00:00:25
Reese
They're universally, yeah.
00:00:25
Ryne
Yeah.
00:00:26
Cokeley Brothers
Well,
00:00:26
Ryne
Hey, traumatized.
00:00:30
Cokeley Brothers
because they're like, that's dad, but it's not. It's like an uncanny valley thing.
00:00:33
Ryne
Who is that? I think that's dad. You smell like dad. You resemble dad, but don't like that.
00:00:36
Cokeley Brothers
You smell like that, but you're youre you're missing something. And quite frankly, I'm pissed about it. That's typically how they react.
00:00:42
Ryne
Yeah.
00:00:46
Cokeley Brothers
Well,
NCAA Wrestling Postseason
00:00:47
Cokeley Brothers
anyway, welcome back to the Barn Session, everybody. We are done with the regular season of NCAA Division I wrestling. We've entered the postseason. We get a break this week from from college wrestling, but there's a lot of senior level stuff going on right now.
00:01:00
Ryne
pretty much into the postseason everywhere for all divisions.
00:01:03
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I guess NCAA is the last one to to get to it, huh?
00:01:08
Ryne
I think regionals for, yeah, for qualifiers, excuse me,
00:01:20
Ryne
then their national tournament is normally the week before season.
00:01:25
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, D3 regions is this weekend.
00:01:30
Ryne
D2 should be.
00:01:30
Cokeley Brothers
NAIA is next weekend.
00:01:31
Ryne
NAI and JUCO Nationals are on the same weekend and next weekend.
00:01:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:01:37
Ryne
So, yeah, pretty much everyone's in the postseason.
00:01:41
Cokeley Brothers
Post-season. And yeah, we've got we've got some fun senior level stuff happening, but think we should.
Oklahoma State vs. Iowa Duel
00:01:51
Cokeley Brothers
think we should talk about the the conclusion, the exciting conclusion that we had to the regular season with Oklahoma State and Iowa.
00:02:02
Cokeley Brothers
Just kind of a see what our thoughts are about it.
00:02:05
Ryne
It was exciting.
00:02:06
Reese
Very exciting.
00:02:06
Ryne
That is the correct way to put it. It was very exciting.
00:02:10
Reese
You know, and for as exciting as it was, there was really only one match in the balance, the whole duel, which is interesting.
00:02:16
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:02:18
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I mean...
00:02:20
Ryne
It's true.
00:02:23
Cokeley Brothers
and I think...
00:02:24
Ryne
But it was just a back and forth duel, right? Like,
00:02:26
Reese
Right. Yeah.
00:02:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. ah Because each match had a potential to have something.
00:02:28
Reese
And the, and the but and bonus points, you know, played a huge part in the excitement too. Like, you know,
00:02:34
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:02:35
Reese
that's The three-point takedown is awesome for that reason. Like, you know, it just makes that major so much more attainable. And then between the major and the tech.
00:02:42
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah,
00:02:44
Ryne
So i I saw this tweet. can't remember who tweeted it. are you Would you guys be for raising the major in tech fault?
00:02:50
Reese
Against.
Raising Scoring in Wrestling
00:02:52
Cokeley Brothers
the quiz quiz, quiz, quiz Daski said that he said, raise the major to 10 and tech to 20.
00:02:52
Reese
Oh, oh. That.
00:02:57
Cokeley Brothers
I hate that idea.
00:02:58
Reese
Yeah.
00:02:58
Ryne
I don't know about the tech.
00:02:59
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, we're just.
00:02:59
Reese
Yeah.
00:03:00
Ryne
The major I could i could get maybe get behind with 10-point majors, but...
00:03:04
Cokeley Brothers
No, no.
00:03:05
Ryne
um
00:03:05
Reese
Nah.
00:03:06
Ryne
The tech, the tech, I would probably, i wouldn't raise it all the way up to 20. I would maybe make it like 17, 18. No, leave it alone.
00:03:13
Reese
I say leave it leave it alone, yeah.
00:03:14
Cokeley Brothers
We're good as is.
00:03:16
Ryne
All right. I mean, I'm okay with leaving in it alone too.
00:03:16
Cokeley Brothers
We're good.
Wrestling Rule Interpretations
00:03:18
Reese
I thought you were going to bring up three-point reversals, which I'm against.
00:03:18
Ryne
Believe me.
00:03:21
Ryne
No, I'm also against leaving them at two.
00:03:25
Reese
I don't know why people... there's like ah i feel like there's a probably ah a strong amount... I feel like you pulled that online, like you'd probably get a pretty even split.
00:03:33
Ryne
Well, the I mean, and there's a good, like the argument is like reversals are harder attain than takedowns, which statistically is probably true.
00:03:40
Reese
Which I disagree.
00:03:43
Cokeley Brothers
not as sought after.
00:03:44
Ryne
But yeah.
00:03:45
Reese
ah They're not like, did i just feel like, it's just, youre you're in your you're not like 100% invulnerable, obviously. like I feel like you're more vulnerable on top to giving up a reversal than you are on your feet, like giving up a takedown.
00:04:01
Ryne
Maybe. I mean, it just depends.
00:04:02
Reese
That's what I think.
00:04:03
Ryne
It just depends. I mean, i'm I'm not for it. i'm Like I said, i want to keep it. I like it how it is. so
00:04:10
Reese
Yeah.
00:04:13
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, with how hard it is to turn people from top, I think the incentive to work yourself from being on bottom to being on top versus on bottom to your feet, i think the the incentive is just clearly get to your feet because you're going to get one point for an escape and possibly three points for a takedown, depending on where it goes from there.
00:04:30
Reese
yeah
00:04:32
Ryne
Mm-hmm.
00:04:32
Cokeley Brothers
So, but I, but yeah, Gwizdowski tweeted majors and texts need to be raised. I don't get that. I don't, at least for the next couple of years, let's get some, let's get a couple of years of data and and understand what things look like, what, what could be adjusted and why it would make sense.
00:04:50
Cokeley Brothers
Because we we moved, we basically, we had a system. It took a certain amount ah of scoring to get to the major, to get to the tech fall. And then we we narrowed that gap by increasing the amount of points you can score in exchanges.
00:05:05
Ryne
Yeah.
00:05:05
Cokeley Brothers
And so why would we move the goalposts?
00:05:07
Ryne
I also, i like the fact that yes, they're easier to get to, but they're also easier to lose.
00:05:07
Cokeley Brothers
Doesn't seem
00:05:13
Cokeley Brothers
to a race.
00:05:14
Ryne
Yeah.
00:05:14
Cokeley Brothers
Yes.
00:05:14
Ryne
To a race. Thank you.
00:05:16
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
Officiating Stories and Challenges
00:05:17
Ryne
So you look at, you look at, uh, you go back to Minnesota, Iowa, Bombard and Shriever.
00:05:17
Cokeley Brothers
That's really good. Yeah.
00:05:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Right. And so looking at the duel as a whole, I i saw it. Don Bichotta tweet about like ah Oklahoma or Iowa performing better than Oklahoma state.
00:05:41
Cokeley Brothers
think his exact words were they, Iowa outperformed Oklahoma state. And I don't want to say like, absolutely, but I also don't disagree with it. I felt like the matches The certain specific points about each match almost.
00:05:57
Cokeley Brothers
It seemed like Iowa had just a lit had that extra step to what they did could be a home advantage deal or, or, or whatever you want to want to think about it. But, but Spratly was right there to get a tech fall on Cruz and didn't get the job done.
00:06:11
Ryne
Yeah.
00:06:11
Cokeley Brothers
Um, Drake, I needed to push to get that extra take down at the end. And and he got it. Same thing with, with Hamity and brands brands fought to get the escape and Hamity didn't seem to push for the takedown to get to the major.
00:06:21
Ryne
The major. Yeah.
00:06:24
Cokeley Brothers
so
00:06:24
Reese
But then you got, you know, 41, 49. forty one Yeah.
00:06:29
Cokeley Brothers
With Parco.
00:06:30
Reese
yeah And 57 that were all, that all went Oklahoma state's way.
00:06:31
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:32
Ryne
Marco. Marco was, Marco was pushing. Marco was pushing.
00:06:36
Reese
I'm just saying he didn't get it.
00:06:38
Ryne
Oh, yeah.
00:06:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:06:39
Reese
Like Parker didn't get it.
00:06:40
Cokeley Brothers
parkco
00:06:41
Reese
Teamer didn't get it. And then they, Jamison got it done at 41 with the major.
00:06:46
Cokeley Brothers
yeah yeah
00:06:48
Ryne
I mean, against a third string, you could say.
00:06:51
Reese
Third string yeah, though I mean yeah, don't know that 13 that it wasn't that bad
00:06:56
Ryne
No, I'm not saying Chase Rhodes is bad, but Schriever, I think, could have kept it to a decision.
00:06:56
Cokeley Brothers
Jace Rhodes.
00:07:02
Reese
For sure so I wonder why they didn't put him out
00:07:05
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:07:06
Ryne
I mean, he's injury prone.
00:07:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:07:10
Ryne
He's prone to the injury.
00:07:10
Cokeley Brothers
So... i think... I mean, i I called the first five matches and and they went largely chalk. I guess we were kind of... Didn't really know what to expect with Rin Sakamoto going out there and wrestling Drake Ayala, but...
00:07:26
Cokeley Brothers
It's the first folk style match. Yeah, he's really good at freestyle, but it's an adjustment and you're in Iowa wrestling the number two, probably realistically the number one guy in in the country at 133. Yeah.
00:07:37
Ryne
Yeah, I mean, some places have them. Number one. Oh,
00:07:44
Reese
he's He's number one at this point, really.
00:07:46
Ryne
yeah, I'll be right back.
00:07:46
Cokeley Brothers
No. and Okay.
00:07:49
Reese
She just spit up.
00:07:50
Ryne
No, I mean, spit up is putting it lightly.
00:07:51
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, shit.
00:07:53
Reese
Oh.
00:07:54
Ryne
She. from
00:07:55
Reese
Dude, I didn't even see that.
00:07:57
Ryne
yeah
00:07:57
Cokeley Brothers
i didn't see I thought she threw her pacifier.
00:07:59
Ryne
That's what I thought it was. So like, did she have a pacifier?
00:08:01
Reese
Well, that was nice of her to do it off to the side, not on you.
00:08:05
Cokeley Brothers
She said. I
00:08:05
Ryne
it is look at Look at my sleeve. It is all over my sleeve.
00:08:08
Cokeley Brothers
i
00:08:08
Reese
Oh, nice.
Controversial Match Decision
00:08:09
Cokeley Brothers
don't need to see that.
00:08:09
Ryne
I'll be right back.
00:08:10
Reese
That's nice.
00:08:12
Cokeley Brothers
Gross. Okay.
00:08:16
Cokeley Brothers
Well, Reese, you want to
00:08:18
Reese
So you want to like just wait by wait or we even really need to do that?
00:08:23
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, we but again, we know everything went chalk. Everything went the way we expected it to, except for really 184.
00:08:27
Reese
Yeah.
00:08:30
Cokeley Brothers
So that's that's the match to have a conversation about.
00:08:32
Reese
I got a question though about 57. fifty seven I would kind of wish Ryan was here too for this input that that Peterson bro. That was clearly a Peterson, right?
00:08:41
Reese
I mean, yeah.
00:08:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:08:42
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, this is... It's weird to me that refs seem to like use rules as a crutch to do the wrong thing. And I don't know if it's in their minds easier to be like, oh, this is neutral danger. Like this is an easy, like, I don't want to call a definitive takedown. So i'm going to call neutral danger when like four years ago or however long it's been since neutral danger to six, seven years ago, uh, immediately would have takedown and they would have started swiping for back points.
00:09:12
Reese
Dude, I mean, yeah you know, yeah, Petersons are can be – like some officials for some reason just like have brain farts, I feel like, with Petersons or don't understand Petersons. um and That one, dude, that one was so clear and obvious, obviously. but Like that was the most controlled about – like about – That was like the most control you could have in a Peterson.
00:09:34
Reese
Like he had him like, yeah, like the arms completely extended.
00:09:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Fish was flopping around.
00:09:39
Reese
and yeah, it would have been like, it should have been like three and three. And the fact that they challenged it and still didn't overturn it, I thought was just shocking. I was like, what, that's just like, do you not know the the rules?
00:09:47
Cokeley Brothers
I think, I think challenges,
00:09:50
Reese
Like, cause at that point you're disregarding the rules.
00:09:51
Cokeley Brothers
i think challenges in that, in that exact situation, challenges are just kind of kind of useless because I feel like refs are unable to determine
00:10:01
Reese
if If he doesn't know, if he doesn't know, like, what I mean, man, they I've seen, you know, we've seen them overturn way worse stuff or like way more like subjective stuff.
00:10:01
Cokeley Brothers
The point in which a takedown is a takedown. And then near fall from there.
00:10:16
Reese
And like, and i don't know, man.
00:10:17
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:18
Reese
Like, if you basically what that told me was this guy doesn't understand Peterson or he was just too proud to change his call. Like, I would love to have heard his explanation for that.
00:10:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:10:33
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I think...
00:10:33
Reese
i' I'm saying this as a guy who loved Petersons also. I love Petersons.
00:10:37
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:10:37
Reese
Big Peterson guy.
00:10:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Big Peterson guy.
00:10:40
Reese
Big time.
00:10:42
Cokeley Brothers
What do you think about Dean Peterson?
00:10:43
Reese
Dean Peterson, I don't know if he hits Peterson, so he might, I mean, I don't know.
00:10:48
Cokeley Brothers
Not really.
00:10:48
Reese
On the fence about Dean Peterson.
00:10:49
Cokeley Brothers
No. Yeah.
00:10:51
Reese
If I was named Dean Peterson, I'd hit tons.
00:10:52
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:10:56
Cokeley Brothers
ah be That'd be the move.
00:10:57
Reese
Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:58
Cokeley Brothers
ah i think I think understanding the... the
00:11:04
Cokeley Brothers
understanding the the things that refs, because they have a different, a very different lens of what, ah what a match looks like. It could, when compared to the wrestlers, the coaches, the commentary, the fans, everybody, ah they're, they're looking for, they're looking at very different things.
00:11:22
Cokeley Brothers
ah And so being able to understand that and then maybe communicating, Hey, I understand what you're doing, but it needs to be shifted in some, in some format. Yeah. I think that needs to be done, but I don't know what that looks like. I don't
Coaches Officiating Proposal
00:11:35
Cokeley Brothers
know.
00:11:35
Reese
What are you talking about just in general?
00:11:38
Cokeley Brothers
Just having coaches, because here's here's a big thing that I was, that was brought up to me or that I heard about um earlier this year.
00:11:50
Cokeley Brothers
ah So like one of the big pushes at the high school level is to have coaches. This is what they do in Iowa. um having coaches officiate tournaments so that they understand what it's like to be in an official shoes.
00:12:06
Cokeley Brothers
And it kind of sets a common ground for coaches and officials to be able to understand each other. And and then a dialogue can, can begin there. They can start to communicate each other about like, wait, ah explain this situation. Like what, what is your idea of it and how would you see it?
00:12:23
Cokeley Brothers
um And I think if obviously you can't have, you're not going to see Doug Schwab out there officiating college matches. That's not going to happen, but being able to have some level of communication between the officials at the, at the college level with the coaches, I think that gets you closer to,
00:12:40
Cokeley Brothers
things making more sense. ah But I don't know. Maybe not.
00:12:47
Reese
Hmm.
00:12:48
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:12:51
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:12:51
Reese
Hmm.
00:12:52
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, there was another really weird situation. i can't remember. I think it was Campbell App State where a kid, I i only heard about it i didn't see it.
00:13:03
Cokeley Brothers
i think the Campbell kid had to take down for like 10 seconds and the App State kid had like had like given up defending it and the ref still have, what like wouldn't call the takedown for some reason.
00:13:15
Cokeley Brothers
So I don't know. i don't know if refs are getting tired. It's late in the season. They're ready to take a break or what the deal is. So
00:13:23
Reese
Well, that's, that would be ridiculous.
00:13:26
Cokeley Brothers
I, I don't, I don't envy being an official and I don't, you know, it's a thankless job. So,
00:13:32
Reese
Yeah, but i mean, normally, I'm, yeah, totally with you there. I don't know.
00:13:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:13:39
Reese
We've, we've, we've all officiated at some level.
00:13:43
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, do you remember the first time I officiated?
00:13:46
Reese
Uh, no.
00:13:47
Cokeley Brothers
It was, we were in, we were at, uh, at Topeka Seaman and I, the very first match I officiate, it's, it's two redheaded kids in blue singlets. They look just like each other, but they're on different teams and I'm, I'm fumbling.
00:14:01
Cokeley Brothers
I'm fumbling bad. And like towards the end of the match, it's a little close, but one kid's, one kid's got it in, in the bag. But then I like, I like raised the wrong hand. ah Like I just mess it up. But then the coach, I it was like ah Topeka Thunderbirds coach or something like that.
00:14:17
Reese
Yeah, I probably...
00:14:17
Cokeley Brothers
He starts, he starts harassing me and he's like, he's like, I'll be all over you today, buddy.
00:14:19
Reese
yeah
00:14:21
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:14:21
Reese
Really? He's like a little guy?
00:14:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Little guy. I think he had a beard wearing a hat type type look. Uh, but then who's that? Who's that official? Uh, I have no names, but he basically came over and straightened out, straightened out the coach and told me not to worry about it.
00:14:34
Reese
From that area? What
00:14:38
Reese
what do you look like? Bald?
00:14:41
Cokeley Brothers
We, we, so do you remember when we, when we reffed the, you're talking about a ref?
00:14:43
Reese
Portly?
00:14:46
Reese
um Yeah, what who do you i'm talking about the ref, yeah.
00:14:48
Cokeley Brothers
No. Yeah. The ref. Remember when we reffed at middle school state and you reference a moment where like two coaches are bickering with each other and then he comes up and he's like, gentlemen.
00:14:57
Reese
oh yeah, yeah, yeah. who you're talking about. yeah
00:15:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. That guy. Yeah.
00:15:01
Reese
Oh, man, what's that dude's name? Redhead. Ryan, ah who is the redheaded official who he retired recently from Kansas, like Western Kansas?
00:15:04
Ryne
what
00:15:13
Reese
It starts with a G, I want to say, but... Billy.
00:15:17
Ryne
Red-headed.
00:15:17
Reese
Billy? Who's his name?
00:15:19
Reese
Billy? Yeah, from Salina.
00:15:19
Ryne
Oh, from Salina.
00:15:22
Ryne
That's not Western Kansas, bud.
00:15:24
Reese
Well, it's Western to me.
00:15:24
Cokeley Brothers
Nice central.
00:15:27
Ryne
Yeah, I can't remember his last name. Dad would know. Billy.
00:15:30
Reese
Gabe? Yeah.
00:15:32
Ryne
I don't know.
00:15:33
Cokeley Brothers
Billy Gable.
00:15:34
Reese
Not Billy Gable.
00:15:34
Ryne
I'm texting dad right now. I'll text him. I'll get it for us.
00:15:38
Reese
All right. Anyway, so it was that guy.
00:15:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:15:41
Reese
as
00:15:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:15:42
Reese
Okay.
00:15:43
Reese
Yeah, there's Thunderbird...
00:15:43
Ryne
He actually lives in Lindsberg.
00:15:44
Ryne
Yep. Yes.
00:15:47
Reese
is that Is that Western Kansas to you?
00:15:50
Cokeley Brothers
That's Southwest line, isn't it? That's where the cooks are from.
00:15:54
Ryne
yes
00:15:55
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, I'm on it.
00:15:56
Reese
So, so um okay, yeah, anyway.
00:15:57
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:16:01
Reese
I was about to start talking about the Thunderbirds coaches because I always had to deal with those guys.
00:16:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, let's... but's
00:16:08
Reese
Dude, at State, ah state these this guy, the coaches, like, i was reffing this, ah like,
00:16:09
Cokeley Brothers
they They can be a handful.
00:16:15
Reese
write out The write outs, like overtime and like the semifinals or quarterfinals or something. And I can't remember who the other coach was, but we we all know him. um he he like He's like, locked in. And I'm like not really in position to see it.
00:16:29
Reese
i I spin around
Reflections on Officiating
00:16:32
Reese
and like, you know, try to look under and I call it, you know. I saw it. I'm going to say I saw it on here. I saw it. And these, these coaches, dude, they, they would, they were, they were like, there's no way you saw that.
00:16:45
Reese
No way you, you were not in position. You're like, everybody was like losing their minds from that club. But you know, other people came up to me afterwards and like, yes, the hands were locked, but they, I mean, nobody, nobody, even the other, the other team, nobody thought I actually saw it, but I called it.
00:17:04
Reese
So the end.
00:17:06
Ryne
You did see, you saw it Reese.
00:17:06
Cokeley Brothers
Good call, Reese. Good call.
00:17:08
Reese
Oh, I saw it. I saw it. I'm fast.
00:17:12
Ryne
ah
00:17:13
Cokeley Brothers
Dude. Yeah.
00:17:15
Reese
Don't miss.
00:17:16
Reese
I do not miss a fishing.
00:17:16
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:17:16
Ryne
I hated refereeing. ah hated it.
00:17:17
Reese
Yeah. Sucks.
00:17:19
Ryne
and was good at it too, but I hated it, man. Coaches, coaches and parents, especially at the kids level, dude, like they take it, they take it way too serious.
00:17:24
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:17:24
Reese
The kids level, they're just ruthless, man.
00:17:27
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:17:28
Reese
I'm glad the last time I did it was with you at Middle School State and you had to like defend me from a guy.
00:17:28
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:17:34
Ryne
Yeah, I remember that.
00:17:34
Reese
you remember that?
00:17:35
Ryne
Yes.
00:17:36
Reese
Yeah, a guy like came at me, like literally fit, like physically like charged at me.
00:17:42
Ryne
Oh, yeah, he was about to get his, he was about to get his, I'm going to say it. He was about to get his ass kicked.
00:17:47
Reese
Hell yeah.
00:17:49
Reese
Bro.
00:17:50
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:17:50
Ryne
Because there's only one, there's only one person who charges my brothers.
00:17:50
Reese
Did you hear DC on?
00:17:53
Ryne
All right. That's me. That's this guy right here.
00:17:57
Reese
I'm glad you were there. Cause I would not have known what to do with that situation. I have been like so flustered.
00:18:00
Cokeley Brothers
it ah we were We were talking about ah officiating is just a, it's a thankless job. It's, it's not easy to do.
00:18:06
Reese
Yeah. We were talking about the teamer Peterson.
00:18:08
Ryne
Yeah, but so also there's terrible officials out there like what you had to deal with in Alabama a couple of weeks ago, Sammy.
00:18:19
Ryne
Like just terrible.
00:18:19
Cokeley Brothers
sense
00:18:20
Reese
Yeah.
00:18:21
Ryne
Terrible.
00:18:23
Cokeley Brothers
dude it's really bad down here uh but you gotta you gotta work with what you got so i'm sure it's there's an effort to make it better but it's not easy
00:18:33
Reese
Ryan, I want your thoughts on that on the teamer Peterson. That was three and three, right? At least.
00:18:39
Ryne
Three and three? You mean two and three? Or, oh, because it was a takedown.
00:18:45
Ryne
Probably.
00:18:48
Reese
At least some back points, you would think.
00:18:48
Ryne
Probably.
00:18:49
Ryne
i don't know. Yeah, three and two maybe. i
00:18:52
Reese
Definitely...
00:18:53
Ryne
I don't understand why referees like wait so long to call like control for Peterson.
00:18:59
Reese
And definitely don't start calling neutral danger. it's a peter dude It was clear as day. It was a clear as day Peterson.
00:19:05
Ryne
Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:06
Reese
like I don't know. Maybe I'm more... I feel like I'm maybe more fired up about it than most people, but...
00:19:12
Ryne
Well, it's a, I mean, ah there, you know, the, you know, the argument, the arguments reaction time.
00:19:19
Cokeley Brothers
we got it We gotta we gotta to banish it.
00:19:19
Reese
Rack reaction time.
00:19:21
Cokeley Brothers
We gotta get rid of it.
00:19:21
Ryne
Ah, dude. I mean, we're, we just, we just gotta like, we gotta figure out what it is and we gotta make it so that it's clear.
00:19:23
Cokeley Brothers
No more reacting.
00:19:29
Reese
We had it figured out.
00:19:29
Ryne
Yeah.
00:19:30
Reese
what I don't know what's happening all of a sudden.
00:19:32
Ryne
yeah I don't, they, they wanted, they didn't,
00:19:33
Cokeley Brothers
There were some rule adjustments that made it more...
00:19:35
Ryne
Well, coaches hated the yeah.
00:19:35
Reese
this But we we got rid of it two you seasons ago.
00:19:39
Ryne
There you go. shoot.
00:19:42
Reese
We're standing.
00:19:43
Ryne
reing
00:19:43
Cokeley Brothers
hand touch.
00:19:44
Ryne
touchs down yeah
00:19:45
Cokeley Brothers
But that that's the that's the only thing in particular in terms of in terms of reaction time that got adjusted.
00:19:50
Ryne
yeah
00:19:51
Cokeley Brothers
I'm pretty sure.
00:19:51
Reese
And that was two seasons to ago, wasn't it? Or at least.
00:19:55
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah but so but reaction time is still a thing in so many different situations.
00:19:59
Reese
i'm so I'm saying like this season, it like it's been, I don't know if it's been just like people are pointing it out more or if it's really actually been getting worse for officials.
00:20:08
Ryne
No, yeah, since I brought it back, it seems like...
00:20:09
Cokeley Brothers
That's a good question.
00:20:11
Ryne
I mean, dude, the worst the worst one, obviously the worst one, is the Joe Seeley-Jason Crazier match. Like...
00:20:18
Reese
Oh, see, I feel like the word the other one was worse. The Chittum fish one was worse.
00:20:25
Ryne
I mean, yeah, that one that one also was bad, but now I just don't think, like, dude, Joe Seeley so clearly had control beyond reaction time.
00:20:25
Cokeley Brothers
Chittim fish.
00:20:28
Cokeley Brothers
That one's bad.
00:20:36
Ryne
it just this And then when they call it and then they go on they go on review and they're like, oh, yeah, actually, after reviewing it, it wasn't like, what are you looking at, Angel?
00:20:41
Reese
Yeah, to... sure
00:20:45
Reese
Yeah. I don't know, man. Yeah.
00:20:48
Cokeley Brothers
Angel.
00:20:49
Reese
ah could have ah i could have I could have been okay with a no takedown call there. But to change it is crazy.
00:20:55
Ryne
really
00:20:55
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:20:56
Reese
Yeah. Did we talk about this?
00:20:58
Cokeley Brothers
Hey.
00:21:00
Reese
guess not.
00:21:00
Cokeley Brothers
What's the Sealy Crazer?
00:21:01
Ryne
Maybe maybe over text.
00:21:02
Cokeley Brothers
We did not. No.
00:21:04
Ryne
We talked about it a lot over text.
00:21:06
Reese
Yeah.
00:21:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:21:07
Ryne
You just won't be able.
00:21:07
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And I was.
00:21:08
Ryne
to I mean, dude, I've tried to convince myself so much that it wasn't a takedown, but I just can't. I can't do it. I mean, um I would have lost my mind.
00:21:14
Reese
Those wizard situations are just tricky, feel like.
00:21:18
Ryne
It was, but how, how is that?
00:21:18
Cokeley Brothers
I, I would have, so I would have stood with the call on the mat.
00:21:20
Ryne
It was your situation.
00:21:20
Reese
I just... I have stood with a call on the mat, too, for sure.
00:21:25
Cokeley Brothers
Yep, that's, that's, ah that, if you're, yeah.
00:21:26
Reese
But I would have been okay with a no-call, also, is what I'm trying to say.
00:21:32
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, probably. Okay, let's get, let's get to the, let's get to the match that matters.
00:21:35
Ryne
Terrible!
00:21:39
Reese
Yeah.
00:21:40
Cokeley Brothers
184,
Ferrari vs. Plot Match Analysis
00:21:41
Cokeley Brothers
plot Escobedo, whoa, plot Ferrari.
00:21:45
Ryne
Plot Escobedo, huh?
00:21:47
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, oh, whoops, ah plot Ferrari.
00:21:52
Reese
I got some chicken.
00:21:52
Cokeley Brothers
i got a lot i got I got a lot of thoughts. Wow, this is
00:22:04
Cokeley Brothers
is This is a great product.
00:22:06
Reese
Alright, go ahead.
00:22:07
Cokeley Brothers
This is a great product.
00:22:08
Ryne
Well, I'm sorry. i gotta take care. I got a lot of things I gotta do, alright?
00:22:10
Cokeley Brothers
chicken Chicken noises.
00:22:13
Reese
Babies.
00:22:13
Cokeley Brothers
right Crying baby. Lennon, we can't do it. We can't do much about it. Ryan, you're doing your best.
00:22:16
Ryne
She's not crying. Look.
00:22:18
Cokeley Brothers
All
00:22:20
Reese
He found that beauty.
00:22:21
Cokeley Brothers
all right.
00:22:23
Ryne
She's looking at Reese. Now she's looking at Sam.
00:22:25
Cokeley Brothers
Plot Ferrari.
00:22:26
Ryne
Now she's looking at herself.
00:22:29
Cokeley Brothers
Angelo Ferrari scores two takedowns to none on Dustin Plot. Dustin Plot forces overtime via ride out in the third period.
00:22:37
Reese
Epic ride out.
00:22:38
Cokeley Brothers
Great ride out.
00:22:39
Ryne
epic right now.
00:22:39
Cokeley Brothers
Phenomenal ride out.
00:22:41
Ryne
let's Let's start right there real quick because since when since wind is a Blair ride potentially dangerous? Since when?
00:22:50
Cokeley Brothers
It's not.
00:22:51
Reese
Yeah, so i I couldn't see from the angle because the body was like covering it. i thought I thought he had the arm like behind the back.
00:22:59
Ryne
yeah So the referee the referee said it. He said, don't take the wrist don't take the hand or don't take the wrist off the chest. What? Why? Why?
00:23:09
Cokeley Brothers
they don't They don't enforce that in high school down here.
00:23:12
Ryne
They don't enforce it any at any level.
00:23:12
Cokeley Brothers
so
00:23:13
Reese
They don't.
00:23:14
Ryne
That's the only time I've ever seen a referee be like, no, you can't bring that off. off to Yes, you can. You've got guys pulling it off the chest and putting it on the back literally all the time.
00:23:25
Reese
I would be mad about that, except I hate to play a ride.
00:23:25
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:23:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, people should call.
00:23:29
Reese
I feel like it doesn't get doesn't lead to anything.
00:23:30
Cokeley Brothers
People need to call stalemate quicker on that. No, it's if you don't.
00:23:33
Ryne
Yeah, i would I would think the stalemate call, a quick ah quicker stalemate call for sure, but it's a good ride.
00:23:39
Reese
Yeah.
00:23:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. It's a great ride.
00:23:42
Ryne
Great ride.
00:23:44
Cokeley Brothers
So that was interesting. ah the The potentially dangerous call in ah in overtime when when plot and plot is imminent on scoring.
00:23:53
Reese
That's frustrating.
00:23:57
Cokeley Brothers
Here's the thing.
00:23:58
Reese
I rewatched it and I was less upset about it. If I'm being honest.
00:24:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, because you you got you got to protect the health of the athletes.
00:24:04
Reese
Yeah.
00:24:04
Cokeley Brothers
So I can't...
00:24:05
Reese
I thought the timing was weird. I felt like there was better opportunities to call the potential potential damage dangerous. I'm not sure. Maybe it's because of how extended the knee was getting.
00:24:16
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe.
00:24:16
Reese
i don't know.
00:24:17
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe.
00:24:19
Reese
Are you making that face? Because of my...
00:24:20
Cokeley Brothers
yeah if You got to finish your food before you eat.
00:24:22
Reese
Sorry.
00:24:22
Cokeley Brothers
Or finish your food before you talk, man. Anyway. um Yeah, that that was frustrating. But there's no way to deny the fact that Angelo went out there and he got two takedowns. The first takedown was crispy. The second takedown was just just about as as good.
00:24:38
Reese
Yeah, the first shot was awesome.
00:24:38
Cokeley Brothers
The... The one thing that I'm frustrated by, and there's nothing there's nothing wrong with this in the in the context of folk style, within the rules, um and and with the way things have gone for the entire year. But it's frustrating to me because it doesn't feel like it should be... It doesn't feel like it should be, I guess, rewarded, but it's not necessarily rewarded. It shouldn't be accepted, which is...
00:25:03
Cokeley Brothers
there's a reason that it, that you can't do it in freestyle. You can't, Angelo drops to a knee and he wrestles, he wrestles in that, that knee drop down position. um I think that is, I think that's, and that's not, that doesn't drive wrestling.
00:25:18
Reese
doesn't promote action.
00:25:20
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. That doesn't, that doesn't, you're, you're limiting what the other wrestler can do.
00:25:25
Reese
Yeah.
00:25:27
Cokeley Brothers
um It should be, it should be.
00:25:28
Reese
And in freestyle, you know, they got that figured out.
00:25:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:25:30
Reese
They don't let you do that.
00:25:31
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:25:32
Reese
Especially overseas.
00:25:32
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Yeah. So that is frustrating, but that doesn't mean it's that it's like an unbeatable tactic. I mean, Carter Starachi obviously showed that you can find a way to handle that.
00:25:42
Reese
Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:46
Cokeley Brothers
So, um yeah, I mean, Ferrari was just way more athletic.
00:25:50
Reese
Still, this man still has not but given up and often offensive point any offensive points yet. It's pretty crazy.
00:25:58
Cokeley Brothers
Ferrari.
00:25:58
Reese
I guess, I don't know, depending depending on how you categorize writing, because he got star after got a writing time point, right? Oh, and and plot.
00:26:06
Cokeley Brothers
i he hasn't He hasn't given up a takedown.
00:26:09
Reese
He's not giving up a single take down.
00:26:11
Cokeley Brothers
and He beat number three and and wrestled number number one. ah think Keck Eisen would get a takedown on him, though.
00:26:18
Reese
Well, you'd hope so, but man.
00:26:19
Cokeley Brothers
i think i think if Starachi really really wanted to push for it and earn it, Starachi would have gotten a takedown.
00:26:20
Reese
He is so hard.
00:26:26
Reese
So, I mean, I think if he wanted to get a takedown, he would have gotten a takedown in one of those times he was in on the leg.
00:26:33
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:34
Reese
I mean, I think he definitely wanted to get a takedown when all Ferrari had was his leg, you know, all the way out with the shoulder extended.
00:26:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:26:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. you I mean, it just, it feels like that's a situation where what is stopping you?
00:26:49
Reese
Well, I mean, i've been i mean it's I think we've all been there before. it's It can be hard to even Even when you think like, oh, you one arm and it's all the way at 90 degrees. Like, how are they? I don't know, dude.
00:27:00
Reese
It happens.
00:27:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. I hear what you're saying.
00:27:02
Reese
I could do that. I could stop people from scoring like that.
00:27:08
Cokeley Brothers
don't know, but, but yeah, I mean, Ferrari looked great. It's not a knock in any way on plot. It's just the kid's good at wrestling. Now, with that, that that one oklahoma state the du or that one Iowa the duel, Buchanan looked great at 97.
00:27:19
Ryne
Yeah.
00:27:26
Cokeley Brothers
Hendrickson looked great at heavyweight.
Ferrari or Arnold Decision
00:27:29
Cokeley Brothers
And then after the duel, we get the we get the interview. Somebody asks, hey, what's the situation of 184 Tom Brands? Are you wrestling Gabe Arnold? Are you wrestling Angelo Ferrari?
00:27:38
Cokeley Brothers
And he sits back and he says, I've told i haven't i've never said what i what I'm going to do. So why would I start now? We are going to start the guy that makes the most sense.
00:27:45
Reese
ah
00:27:48
Ryne
yeah
00:27:48
Cokeley Brothers
and I'm sitting here I'm like, so you're saying there's a chance.
00:27:53
Ryne
No.
00:27:54
Cokeley Brothers
So you're saying, but the thing that makes the most sense
00:27:56
Ryne
he's telling you He's telling you without telling you it's Arnold.
00:27:59
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I think you're right. But
00:28:02
Reese
He's right. we're
00:28:04
Ryne
I mean, what makes the most sense, Cooper?
00:28:04
Reese
you got You gotta to listen to us about this Ferrari Arnold situation.
00:28:06
Ryne
Or Cooper, excuse me. Sorry.
00:28:09
Reese
You gotta listen to the guys who have been right. Cooper. Cooper.
00:28:16
Ryne
Sorry.
00:28:16
Cokeley Brothers
here's here's what I'm thinking. Here's what I'm thinking. Okay, so imagine you're Tom Brands, right? And you have Angelo Ferrari. And he comes into the office. Say it say it's it's it happened on yesterday, Tuesday. He walks in. He's like, coach.
00:28:27
Cokeley Brothers
I've really thought about it. And I know we've talked about this before. I want to go and I want to wrestle. I feel I'm ready.
00:28:32
Reese
Who we talking about? Ferrari?
00:28:34
Cokeley Brothers
Ferrari comes in the office. He says, I want to wrestle. I think I've earned it. I'm ready. I'm hungry. i want I want to go and I want to compete. I'm healthy.
00:28:41
Ryne
um
00:28:41
Cokeley Brothers
I'm ready to do it.
00:28:42
Ryne
He's obviously earned it, but like does it long long term, does it make sense for him? It's not going to help him win a team title this year, so why wrestle him?
00:28:49
Reese
was Brands, I'd tell them no.
00:28:54
Cokeley Brothers
No. No. But if Angelo Ferrari... as Because there's there's the individual aspect to the sport.
00:29:00
Ryne
And let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Can he beat Carter Sriracha? Maybe. He, you know, he showed that he could keep it close and maybe, maybe get it. You know who I, you know who I think stylistically is bad matchup for him?
00:29:08
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:29:12
Ryne
It's Parker.
00:29:12
Cokeley Brothers
Parker. No. I don't disagree. I don't disagree, but...
00:29:18
Ryne
You can be on one knee all you want. Parker Kekheisen will find a way to, will find a way to get to your legs.
00:29:22
Cokeley Brothers
ye he he's the bowl.
00:29:24
Reese
Or give you're going to get some stock calls or something.
00:29:26
Ryne
Yeah.
00:29:27
Reese
Something's got to get. Oh, Gaskell.
00:29:29
Ryne
Yeah, Billy Gaskell.
00:29:29
Reese
was close.
00:29:29
Cokeley Brothers
Or,
00:29:30
Ryne
There you go. That was what it was. Told you. That's all we need to do is ask the old man.
00:29:35
Cokeley Brothers
or, or what happens is he goes out. I mean, imagine the story of, of Angelo Ferrari as a true freshman going out and beating a four timer and a, and a national champ and winning a national title as a true freshman. I mean, that's,
00:29:52
Cokeley Brothers
that That, like, if if you're Angelo Ferrari and you're thinking, I can do this.
00:29:54
Reese
not going happen.
00:29:57
Cokeley Brothers
I have the capability of doing it. And it's it's ah it's an amazing storyline. And yes, 184 does get easier next year. It doesn't get, it doesn't, it's going to be, dude, 84 is going to be tough next year.
00:30:05
Reese
It still will be really hard really tough Sinclair, Max McAnaly, probably what's-his-face from Ohio State.
00:30:07
Ryne
Yeah, it's probably hard. I'm still going have to get through guys like Josh Barr or Zack Ryder.
00:30:12
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and Max McAnally, it's not going to be easy.
00:30:15
Ryne
Yeah, I mean.
00:30:23
Ryne
What's his face? Say his name.
00:30:25
Cokeley Brothers
What is his face?
00:30:25
Reese
Why can't think of his name?
00:30:28
Ryne
Rogotsky?
00:30:28
Reese
good they No, the dude who was the finalist last year. 74.
00:30:31
Reese
Oh, just assumed he was.
00:30:32
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, oh yeah.
00:30:32
Ryne
Oh.
00:30:33
Cokeley Brothers
Welsh. Rocco Welsh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:30:35
Ryne
Well, she's coming up for sure.
00:30:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure is.
00:30:39
Ryne
Okay.
00:30:39
Cokeley Brothers
Pretty sure. So, yeah, but so it's, it doesn't, you know, it gets easier, it doesn't get way, way easier. It doesn't clear out next year. And. I don't know. I
Gabe Arnold's All-American Potential
00:30:49
Cokeley Brothers
just think if I'm if i'm Angelo Ferrari and I have the capability of doing it, yeah, I can take the safe path and and make my chances of being a four-timer much, much more likely.
00:30:57
Cokeley Brothers
Sure, I can do that. Or I can i could try and and so slay some giants.
00:31:03
Reese
I mean, we'd all we'd all love to see him. We'd all love to see him go.
00:31:04
Cokeley Brothers
And no, it doesn't make the most sense for the team.
00:31:07
Ryne
Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't be mad if it happened, but at the same time, it it really doesn't make sense. Gabe Arnold can place for him. He will, if in my opinion. He will All-American.
00:31:19
Cokeley Brothers
Depends. Yeah. I think he's...
00:31:20
Ryne
How high can he go? That just depends on Gabe.
00:31:24
Cokeley Brothers
If he gets a bad draw, he might be out of luck. But he should be able to.
00:31:28
Reese
don't know. How many people do you think he can't beat? I would say there's three that he can't beat, really, in my opinion.
00:31:33
Ryne
Yeah.
00:31:33
Cokeley Brothers
Three that he can't... Oh, yeah. yeah So there's there's a couple that he can't beat. And then there's, I would say, maybe three more that he can lose to.
00:31:43
Cokeley Brothers
Right?
00:31:44
Ryne
He's, i mean, he'll, he could honestly take third or fourth.
00:31:44
Reese
don't know.
00:31:49
Ryne
He could.
00:31:50
Cokeley Brothers
He could.
00:31:51
Reese
Yeah.
00:31:51
Cokeley Brothers
He could. But he could also be just you yeah like, like if it if it's him and McAnally in the round of 12.
00:31:59
Reese
Could that happen?
00:31:59
Cokeley Brothers
Or him and Pinto in the round of 12.
00:32:00
Reese
That would and be bad news.
00:32:00
Cokeley Brothers
That'd be bad news. And brackets could play out that way.
00:32:03
Reese
Not Pinto. is i All red.
00:32:04
Ryne
and All red.
00:32:05
Reese
mean, I don't see him losing all red again.
00:32:06
Cokeley Brothers
Or all red, all red.
00:32:09
Reese
i don't know. Maybe maybe
00:32:11
Ryne
and I honestly, like next time he wrestles with McAnally, whether it's at Big Ten or Nationals, I think he might win that one too.
00:32:18
Cokeley Brothers
he he can't see it So those are the guys that he can beat, but he can also lose to.
00:32:22
Reese
Yeah.
00:32:23
Cokeley Brothers
And I guess, I don't know, if TJ Stewart decides to show up at NCAAs...
00:32:26
Reese
Bergie.
00:32:28
Cokeley Brothers
What about Chris Foka? What does he look like against against that type of guy? I don't know.
00:32:32
Reese
Yeah, there's a lot of good guys.
00:32:32
Ryne
I think he's a bad matchup. I think he's a bad matchup for Christopher.
00:32:37
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. I really don't know what those what those things what those matchups look like.
00:32:39
Reese
How is Foka doing this year?
00:32:43
Cokeley Brothers
I think he lost earlier on in the year, but hasn't lost since then. But I mean, he didn't go to CKLV. He didn't really do a lot of the big. oh yeah. He didn't even wrestle.
00:32:52
Ryne
Cornell has had a relatively ah quiet year.
00:32:53
Cokeley Brothers
He didn't wrestle first semester. Quiet. Very quiet. Yeah.
00:32:59
Ryne
Hell, Meyer has wrestled like, what, nine matches?
00:33:00
Cokeley Brothers
Uh,
00:33:03
Cokeley Brothers
yeah.
00:33:04
Ryne
I looked it up earlier today.
00:33:05
Cokeley Brothers
Uh,
00:33:05
Ryne
I'm pretty sure it was it was single digits.
00:33:08
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Oh, he he lost to... ah He lost fourteen to seven at the beginning of the year to Jackson Smith. Chris Foka did. um Which is...
00:33:16
Reese
He beat
00:33:16
Ryne
to 7.
00:33:16
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, another... He lost 14-7.
Arnold vs. Rogatsky Recap
00:33:20
Reese
him.
00:33:21
Ryne
To a guy that gave Arnold, you know, beaten ride outs, but.
00:33:21
Cokeley Brothers
ah Went to ride-outs with.
00:33:28
Cokeley Brothers
And I think that matches as close as is because of... They were teammates. And, I mean...
00:33:32
Ryne
Well, yeah.
00:33:33
Reese
And Gabe Arnold wrestles everybody close.
00:33:35
Ryne
Yeah.
00:33:35
Cokeley Brothers
He wrestles everybody close.
00:33:35
Ryne
Yeah.
00:33:36
Cokeley Brothers
Another guy is Rogatsky who's beaten him in the past. and
00:33:40
Reese
Beating Gabe Arnold.
00:33:40
Cokeley Brothers
So, yeah, he beat him. he This was Gabe Arnold's first win over Rogatsky this year.
00:33:46
Reese
But, like, when is he beating him?
00:33:49
Cokeley Brothers
They wrestled at...
00:33:49
Ryne
Last year. Right.
00:33:51
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
00:33:52
Ryne
last year, right?
00:33:53
Cokeley Brothers
but No, Rogatsky beat him at like like back in 2021 at like cadet trials.
00:33:57
Reese
Oh.
00:33:58
Ryne
Oh,
00:34:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah, I know. But...
00:34:04
Reese
wrong with your dog?
00:34:05
Cokeley Brothers
She's in here because she's...
00:34:07
Ryne
I thought that was my dog for a second. i was like, is she down here?
00:34:09
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, that's my dog. let make it Let me text Katie.
00:34:12
Ryne
Toast.
00:34:14
Cokeley Brothers
Toast is not happy.
00:34:14
Ryne
Toast and I are going to become best friends.
00:34:16
Cokeley Brothers
Toast the foster dog.
00:34:21
Reese
Ryan, you didn't even give me a chance to talk to...
00:34:23
Ryne
Reese. Yes, I did. Yes, I did.
00:34:24
Reese
I didn't i hadn't seen them.
00:34:26
Ryne
I'm
00:34:26
Reese
I hadn't seen them so i mean, I have called them, but I don't like doing that. um all I was already asking for... I'm asking for Friday off. and I mean, I could, I guess, like ask for some vacation, but I didn't want to.
00:34:38
Ryne
going to be honest with you, Reese. I knew the chances were slim.
00:34:40
Reese
Those were some chances.
00:34:41
Cokeley Brothers
I also slim chickens.
00:34:43
Reese
so um symptom Some, some, some.
00:34:44
Ryne
And I didn't, I didn't want to lose that, that plane, that flight that I'm on.
00:34:45
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan,
00:34:48
Ryne
It's perfect. It's perfect for me.
00:34:50
Cokeley Brothers
are you going to come ah to my 5 a.m.
00:34:50
Reese
Yeah.
00:34:54
Cokeley Brothers
workouts?
00:34:58
Reese
This freaking chicken nugget. It's not chicken strip.
00:35:05
Reese
What are you?
00:35:05
Ryne
You want me to 5 a.m.
00:35:06
Ryne
m workouts? Sammy, I've been getting up at 5 a.m.
00:35:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. What's up?
00:35:10
Ryne
m every day for the past couple of weeks.
00:35:16
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah,
00:35:17
Ryne
This is my spring break, my vacation.
00:35:19
Cokeley Brothers
I get up at 350.
00:35:23
Ryne
Yeah, but you're going to not let me sleep in?
00:35:24
Reese
Good for you.
00:35:25
Ryne
Come on now.
00:35:27
Cokeley Brothers
No, yeah, you take your break. You take your break. You come down here. We'll podcast together. Maybe we'll leave Reese out of it.
00:35:32
Reese
Leave me out of it.
00:35:32
Ryne
No, I wouldn't do that.
00:35:33
Cokeley Brothers
yeah we'll leave you out of it.
00:35:34
Ryne
reese I won't let him do that to you. Trust me.
00:35:35
Cokeley Brothers
it be It's going to be weird, though, if it's like two of us together and then one not. It's just going to feel weird.
00:35:39
Reese
But we did that. Ryan and I did that.
00:35:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and I hated it.
00:35:41
Ryne
Yeah.
00:35:43
Cokeley Brothers
I hated it, and and it never saw the light of day.
00:35:43
Reese
It was awesome. Well, you hated it because you felt left out. You're jealous.
00:35:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, how are you going to feel?
00:35:50
Reese
I'll be mad.
00:35:51
Ryne
You think Reese's feelings are going to be hurt?
00:35:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. It's the one thing we have around.
00:35:55
Reese
I'm bit angry.
00:35:56
Cokeley Brothers
There's feelings.
00:35:59
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. So that's... um That's college wrestling. We should be seeing, i believe we'll get allocations tomorrow and then precedes later on after that.
00:36:12
Cokeley Brothers
And I think the first conference tournament is PAC 12s, which is a four team conference. It's going wrestled in one day on Thursday on one mat, which is kind of cool. I don't hate that.
00:36:25
Reese
What are we talking about?
00:36:25
Cokeley Brothers
You have the whole
00:36:26
Ryne
Oh, we're missing some action.
00:36:26
Cokeley Brothers
What do
00:36:28
Ryne
What have we missed so far? I'm
00:36:30
Cokeley Brothers
but you mean?
00:36:33
Ryne
just saying the event has started.
00:36:33
Reese
about the card.
00:36:35
Ryne
We've so we've missed something.
00:36:36
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yeah. The Flow Wrestling Night in America is going on as we're recording. I think we've missed the prelims, which is... ah
00:36:43
Reese
i think the main card started at seven.
00:36:43
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:36:45
Ryne
It did.
00:36:46
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, it did. Whoops. Tomasello beat Daniel DeShazer 7-0. Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:52
Ryne
No. ah ah
00:36:54
Reese
Dang it.
00:36:56
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:36:56
Reese
Yes.
00:36:56
Ryne
I wanted to talk about that too. I was reading the article on like the stats for like Tomasello versus DeShazer or whatever. They were talking about like how each of them did in college.
00:37:05
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:37:07
Ryne
This dude, i don't even know who did it, but this guy who like Rose writing down the stuff for DeShazer had his stats. He was like, oh yeah. And he was a three year starter for Nebraska Kearney and won it his senior year. Wrong. Wrong.
00:37:21
Ryne
So wrong. It was a four-year starter for Nebraska Kearney when his freshman and junior year took second and third. Second and sophomore year, third and senior year. like how And all you have to do is Google his name to find that information.
00:37:32
Reese
What an idiot.
00:37:35
Ryne
How do you mess that up so bad?
00:37:36
Reese
Why would you go out of your way to get do one title and forget about the other one and just that's crazy.
00:37:38
Cokeley Brothers
it
00:37:42
Cokeley Brothers
You know, you don't need why.
00:37:43
Ryne
It was bad.
00:37:43
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, maybe they, maybe they just asked his, his, his teammate JD to get the, to get the facts straight.
00:37:49
Ryne
Well... I mean, if JD, if that's how it was, yeah, yeah. it just has JD. JD would know.
00:37:55
Reese
JD should be embarrassed if if he I mean, even even without asking him.
00:37:58
Cokeley Brothers
Don't sign off on that, JD.
00:38:00
Reese
Yeah.
00:38:01
Reese
That's a bad look, Diddy.
00:38:01
Ryne
But that's all that's been, that's been flows problem for as long as I can remember is they never get their facts straight.
00:38:06
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, their facts have always been bad.
00:38:08
Ryne
Never.
00:38:09
Reese
Yeah, that's that's pretty sad.
00:38:09
Ryne
They don't have anyone peer review any of their shit, which drives me freaking nuts.
00:38:10
Cokeley Brothers
Always been bad.
00:38:13
Reese
There's no journalistic integrity.
00:38:17
Cokeley Brothers
JIL of Tech Marcus Coleman. That kind of checks out. Jay feels like he's big compared to Marcus. Yeah.
00:38:25
Reese
He good, too.
00:38:26
Cokeley Brothers
he's He's tough. He's tough in freestyle. So ah that is what's happened so far.
Real Woods' Freestyle Performance
00:38:32
Cokeley Brothers
I think we can talk about the ranking series.
00:38:38
Cokeley Brothers
don't know if you guys ah saw some of the results from that so far.
00:38:43
Ryne
The women's match is going on right now.
00:38:46
Cokeley Brothers
With Sochi.
00:38:49
Ryne
<unk>
00:38:49
Cokeley Brothers
Sochiel. Yes.
00:38:51
Ryne
Yeah, Pettis versus Jimenez.
00:38:54
Cokeley Brothers
Yes.
00:38:57
Cokeley Brothers
Let me...
00:38:57
Ryne
Xochito, is that how you say that? Xochito?
00:39:00
Cokeley Brothers
I have no idea, dude. I feel like it's...
00:39:02
Ryne
Xochito? Xochito molto Pettis?
00:39:04
Cokeley Brothers
I want to say...
00:39:05
Reese
I feel like you had it for good the first time, maybe. Like, Sochi, I think.
00:39:09
Cokeley Brothers
Sochi?
00:39:10
Reese
Yeah.
00:39:11
Cokeley Brothers
Sochito? Sochito?
00:39:12
Ryne
No, but there's it's X-O-C-H-I-T-L.
00:39:13
Reese
So Chitto.
00:39:15
Ryne
It's got to be Zochitl, right?
00:39:17
Reese
I don't think so.
00:39:18
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know if it has to be because you also look Koi Biskin's last name and you're like, how do you get Biskins out of that? narrative And you look at... You look at... a
00:39:25
Reese
Just look at Manas. Masanosuke.
00:39:27
Cokeley Brothers
Masanosuke. Yeah.
00:39:30
Ryne
I mean, that's like common but that's common in Japan, though.
00:39:31
Cokeley Brothers
Masanosuke.
00:39:33
Ryne
You look at a lot of those S-U-K-E.
00:39:35
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:39:36
Reese
That's what i'm saying though. Maybe we're maybe we're just.
00:39:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yes.
00:39:37
Ryne
It's not Suke.
00:39:37
Cokeley Brothers
So, so, so so fine.
00:39:38
Ryne
It's just G.
00:39:40
Cokeley Brothers
So find Sochi's ah origin and and you probably will find at least the correct way to pronounce it, which is probably not how we're saying it.
00:39:43
Reese
Yeah.
00:39:48
Cokeley Brothers
So.
00:39:51
Cokeley Brothers
uh yeah let's i'm trying to find the god all it is is it makes sense it's it's flows event they're they're advertising it but i'm trying to find the results from today's uh today's freeze or yeah international results and i can't find them
00:40:11
Ryne
Well, I can tell you that Real Woods took bronze, got beat by Amuzad in the semis.
00:40:16
Cokeley Brothers
yes yes
00:40:19
Ryne
um
00:40:20
Cokeley Brothers
Will Luan beat James Green for bronze?
00:40:20
Ryne
James Green, James Green took fifth, got beat by Will Luan in a typical Will Luan fashion match.
00:40:30
Cokeley Brothers
Did that feel wrong?
00:40:33
Ryne
What you mean?
00:40:34
Reese
What happened?
00:40:35
Cokeley Brothers
So it was three to one with like 10 seconds, five seconds left, something like that.
00:40:41
Ryne
James is on the shot clock. He gave up a step, step out and a shot clock point ah within, within.
00:40:46
Cokeley Brothers
And a and a fleeing.
00:40:50
Ryne
No, cause he was up, he was down, he was up three to one and he gave up two points within like one second of each other.
00:40:51
Cokeley Brothers
So it was like... it was like Okay.
00:40:51
Reese
Whoa.
00:40:58
Cokeley Brothers
but then that But the final result was 4-3.
00:41:01
Ryne
Cause, cause he challenged, they challenged it.
00:41:02
Reese
Challenge.
00:41:04
Cokeley Brothers
Right, but so I saw one, and I saw caution one.
00:41:08
Reese
Hmm.
00:41:09
Cokeley Brothers
Are you sure it was a shot clock point? I don't think there would have been a shot clock in the last 40 seconds of the match.
00:41:12
Ryne
we you can't You can't give a step out and a fling in the same breath.
00:41:16
Reese
There you can. Yeah.
00:41:17
Cokeley Brothers
One caution one is a thing.
00:41:18
Ryne
You can't now? All
00:41:19
Cokeley Brothers
That's, that's been a thing for, for at least a year.
00:41:20
Reese
no
00:41:23
Ryne
right.
00:41:25
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And so I'm guessing they challenged that and that failed.
00:41:28
Ryne
I thought they got rid of that, but maybe I'm wrong.
00:41:28
Cokeley Brothers
That must, that must be what it is. don't think so. And I don't know if it was, if it was the right call either. I don't know. It felt weird.
00:41:38
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yeah, the Woods-Amuzad match was was entertaining. I'm excited to see more of Real Woods on the freestyle level. he's a
00:41:48
Reese
Wait, how that go?
00:41:48
Cokeley Brothers
He's fun. real Woods got up 2-0 and then lost 11-2. Amuzad's pace.
00:41:54
Reese
Too low, that's pretty good.
00:41:55
Ryne
He was up two to two in the going into the break and then Muzad hit a dirty.
00:41:55
Reese
So I got takedown?
00:42:03
Ryne
i mean, Sammy sent it in the. ah What was it?
00:42:06
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, the...
00:42:06
Ryne
Instagram in the brotherly love chat.
00:42:08
Cokeley Brothers
the what do you What do you call it?
00:42:09
Reese
Oh.
00:42:12
Reese
What was it? The whip over?
00:42:14
Cokeley Brothers
The... Yeah, like the over-under and you you drop to the side.
00:42:16
Ryne
Yeah.
00:42:17
Cokeley Brothers
Like the hip drop. I don't know what it is.
00:42:20
Ryne
It's a whip over.
00:42:20
Reese
Whip over.
00:42:21
Ryne
It's a whip over him.
00:42:23
Cokeley Brothers
Sure. i don't know. it's It's good. It's effective.
00:42:28
Cokeley Brothers
ah And then Chance Marsteller. How did he do?
00:42:32
Ryne
Gold.
00:42:33
Cokeley Brothers
Gold. He beat...
00:42:37
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know who he beat, but he beat them.
00:42:38
Ryne
And then ah Snyder wrestled in the PWL. Is that what it is?
00:42:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and he's wrestling tomorrow too.
00:42:46
Ryne
He won. He won both his matches. Be cut to really good dudes.
00:42:49
Cokeley Brothers
He beat, yeah, Aitmuk Khan. I think he's just too big for Aitmuk Khan right now, who's who's young and good. And then tomorrow, his first match is Iranskulaj. know if you guys remember him, but you should.
00:43:02
Reese
Yep. He blew Mute.
00:43:04
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan? Ryan?
00:43:06
Ryne
Sorry, I was watching this girls match. Three to one at the break. Jimenez.
00:43:11
Reese
i you
00:43:11
Cokeley Brothers
Do you remember Goledge from Iran? Snyder?
00:43:14
Ryne
I
Kyle Snyder's PWL Matches
00:43:15
Ryne
remember the name.
00:43:17
Cokeley Brothers
and see He's up he's up two one with like three seconds left, driving Snyder out of bounds in an over-under position. And Snyder just like plants his feet on the edge of the out-of-bounds line and and passes him by and gets behind for the takedown.
00:43:26
Ryne
Oh, yeah. Yes.
00:43:30
Ryne
Yes.
00:43:31
Cokeley Brothers
and then And then like the next year, he's in like ah he's in a similar scoring situation against Sadulaev. I'm pretty sure. And just blows it and gets pinned in like the last 10 seconds.
00:43:45
Cokeley Brothers
I think, I think I'm thinking of the right guy.
00:43:48
Ryne
and i think yeah I think that's correct.
00:43:48
Reese
Yeah, he blew it. I know for a fact he blew up. Whatever, the Simmizer.
00:43:52
Cokeley Brothers
Snyder.
00:43:53
Ryne
this not Yes, in the semis against Snyder, totally blew that, yes.
00:43:53
Reese
Yeah.
00:43:54
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:43:57
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Yep. ah Other notable results for people that aren't from the United States. Truman Ville of 174 kilos. He beat South Kazanov in the finals two to one.
00:44:10
Cokeley Brothers
He looks pretty good. I think I think he's somebody.
00:44:13
Reese
Duh.
00:44:15
Cokeley Brothers
i think he's somebody.
00:44:16
Reese
He should have beat
00:44:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:44:20
Reese
Whatever his name is.
00:44:22
Cokeley Brothers
Come on. What's his name?
00:44:23
Reese
Ramzo Zemelov. They beat him.
00:44:27
Reese
They hosed him. Ultimately.
00:44:27
Cokeley Brothers
Jamalov.
00:44:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, ah they did. They really did.
00:44:30
Reese
Epically.
00:44:31
Cokeley Brothers
ah The finals at 70 kilos was Vascon Tivanyan, who I did not think would be at 70 kilos. And then Yoshinosuke Aoyagi from Japan, who was a world silver medalist this last year.
00:44:43
Ryne
Wait, wait, you said Tavanian's at 70?
00:44:43
Cokeley Brothers
And...
00:44:45
Ryne
I
00:44:46
Cokeley Brothers
Tavenian's at 70, and he's short, so it's what's weird to me. and Yoshinosuke beat him 4-1 in the finals.
00:44:52
Ryne
guess he's kind of beefy, though.
00:44:52
Cokeley Brothers
so Dude, do Japan...
00:44:55
Reese
He's a beefcake.
00:44:56
Cokeley Brothers
ah he was he was He was a beefcake at 65, so I didn't think... like Are you going to do double beefcake to get 70?
00:45:02
Ryne
Oh,
00:45:02
Cokeley Brothers
don't
Yoshinosuke's Achievements
00:45:03
Cokeley Brothers
know. Yeah. Uh...
00:45:03
Ryne
that was beautiful.
00:45:04
Ryne
Sorry. Jimenez just hit this beautiful beautiful double leg.
00:45:08
Cokeley Brothers
no ah
00:45:10
Reese
I want to watch.
00:45:12
Ryne
Stay off my account. Go on your own, dude. You have your own.
00:45:15
Reese
you did do know You don't pay for that account, do you?
00:45:19
Ryne
no None of us pay for our accounts.
00:45:21
Reese
That's what I'm saying. I don't have my own account.
00:45:22
Cokeley Brothers
i don't I don't have my own account anymore.
00:45:23
Ryne
Yes, you do.
00:45:24
Reese
No, I used to. I don't have it anymore.
00:45:24
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:45:26
Ryne
Oh.
00:45:26
Cokeley Brothers
Don't have one anymore. so
00:45:28
Ryne
Dad loves me more.
00:45:32
Reese
walk
00:45:36
Ryne
Stay off my account.
00:45:39
Cokeley Brothers
um While we are here, we don't have to get into... I do want to do like... Maybe next week I want to do like our, what are our all American picks at at each weight?
00:45:54
Cokeley Brothers
we We've done this before. I want to do it again before the postseason kicks off. But for now, I just want to hear your guys. I want to get, I want to, I want to put out some feelers in terms of what you guys are expecting.
00:46:05
Cokeley Brothers
How do you, what's your rating of confidence for specific weight classes? What are you the most excited about?
00:46:14
Cokeley Brothers
Tell me, tell me about, tell me about your expectations here.
00:46:16
Ryne
i am I'll say this. haven't been this excited for 197 long time. Put it that way. 72. but that way
00:46:28
Reese
Yeah, I don't know what what I'm most excited for.
00:46:28
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I think that
00:46:32
Cokeley Brothers
for me, it's probably 174.
00:46:38
Cokeley Brothers
probably one seventy four
00:46:41
Reese
Oh yeah, that's pretty exciting.
00:46:43
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, because you have your top two guys.
00:46:46
Ryne
seventy
00:46:46
Cokeley Brothers
you
00:46:46
Ryne
Yep. Boom. Boom.
00:46:47
Cokeley Brothers
You have O'Toole and Haynes, and you also have DJ Hamity, who has looked great this year. And then I think the the landmine amongst that, or or at least the the next biggest landmine is Lorenzo Norman, who who just lost.
00:47:00
Reese
No, no, no. He is not the next big... Who... Come on.
00:47:05
Cokeley Brothers
Hold
00:47:06
Reese
Give him some respect. Put some respect on his name.
00:47:09
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, Carson Harchla.
00:47:09
Reese
Carson Hartstuck.
00:47:11
Cokeley Brothers
So I'm not considering Carson a landmine because I think people... I think i think Lorenzo is less known about.
00:47:15
Reese
Well, then he's in with... He's in DJ Hamity. Like, yeah right?
00:47:19
Cokeley Brothers
yeah, Yes, I agree. No, i agree I agree with that. I agree with that. I think i think you you have your Tier 1, and then your Tier 1A is O'Toole Haynes, and Tier 1B is...
00:47:27
Ryne
No, Hammity's there.
00:47:31
Ryne
Hammity is in that tier.
00:47:33
Reese
If anybody's in there, I'm putting Carson Archla in there too. Alright.
00:47:36
Ryne
yeah I mean, I wouldn't be mad at it.
00:47:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:38
Ryne
I won't be.
00:47:39
Reese
Four tier one, guys.
00:47:42
Cokeley Brothers
There you go.
00:47:43
Reese
I love it.
00:47:43
Ryne
I won't be mad at Here's the only reason why I will argue against Harchla is because he is his own worst enemy sometimes.
00:47:44
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:47:50
Cokeley Brothers
there are There are two guys at the weight who have won a national title, and that's it.
00:47:55
Reese
DJ Hammity is his own worst enemy.
00:47:57
Ryne
but he has But he's looked, dude, this is the best he's looked in his entire career.
00:48:01
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, that's a great song.
00:48:04
Reese
Yeah, he's lit.
00:48:06
Cokeley Brothers
He is lit.
00:48:07
Ryne
And I can't, I mean, Big 12s, am so excited to see DJ Hamity versus Keegan O'Toole.
00:48:07
Cokeley Brothers
It's a great song.
00:48:12
Reese
Oh, yeah.
00:48:14
Ryne
In the past, I haven't really been excited for that match because you know, you're just like, Keegan will find a way to win.
00:48:18
Cokeley Brothers
Tool just kind of puts it on him.
00:48:19
Reese
I still feel that way, though. I still feel like...
00:48:22
Ryne
I don't.
00:48:22
Cokeley Brothers
Because we just don't know. We don't know what to expect. You you shouldn't.
00:48:24
Ryne
we don't know How healthy is Keegan?
00:48:24
Cokeley Brothers
You shouldn't.
00:48:25
Reese
Why?
00:48:26
Cokeley Brothers
You should.
00:48:26
Ryne
and
00:48:27
Cokeley Brothers
you should
00:48:27
Ryne
And I mean, dude, EJ has looked so good.
00:48:29
Reese
Yeah, the Keegan health thing is the only thing, but I...
00:48:33
Reese
I mean, couldn't get couldn't get the major on Brands.
00:48:34
Cokeley Brothers
i don't. I don't.
00:48:37
Reese
He had a tight one with Norman.
00:48:37
Ryne
on ah um On a wrestler who is great defensively.
00:48:43
Reese
yeah
00:48:43
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, could be wrong here. ah I could be putting stock and in bad product, but i do I have high expectations for Lorenzo Norman. I really do. I think he is capable of doing some things.
00:48:54
Reese
Yeah. He had an interesting match recently, right?
00:48:58
Cokeley Brothers
With Ogunsanya, he lost that one.
00:49:00
Reese
Oh, he lost.
00:49:00
Cokeley Brothers
I think it was... Yeah, so that if if that hadn't happened, I would be i i would probably be like like so like shouting Lorenzo's name from the rooftops right now.
00:49:11
Reese
So is he maybe hurt?
00:49:11
Ryne
the my My only thing is, is he it was at home.
00:49:14
Cokeley Brothers
no
00:49:15
Ryne
ah You know, he it wasn't like he had to travel across the country and then he got beat by Ogunsonya. He got beat by an Ogunsonya who traveled to him. And you know what i mean?
00:49:23
Cokeley Brothers
It was a 1513 match. So I think I remember because I didn't watch it, but I i remember hearing that there were some some crazy scoring situations.
00:49:36
Cokeley Brothers
But still that that does that pulls him back.
00:49:39
Reese
He's the land, man.
00:49:40
Cokeley Brothers
I consider him a landmine.
00:49:43
Reese
but a Landmine for who I mean, who's he DJ Hamity maybe Maybe Karchla Karchla This top two are just don't maybe Haynes yeah Haynes I guess Haynes yeah, he's been vulnerable in the past not recently
00:49:43
Cokeley Brothers
So because it's
00:49:49
Ryne
No.
00:49:51
Cokeley Brothers
Carson Hartzler.
00:49:52
Ryne
Karchla, maybe, maybe Haynes.
00:49:52
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:50:00
Ryne
He is just vulnerable. Yeah, exactly. He's just time to time.
00:50:04
Cokeley Brothers
and might be It might be different at 74, though. It might be different.
00:50:07
Reese
You might be different I Think I'm going I yeah
00:50:09
Ryne
Are you guys going?
00:50:09
Cokeley Brothers
He might be different.
00:50:14
Cokeley Brothers
I'm going.
00:50:15
Reese
I think I have to go. At this point.
00:50:17
Ryne
Is dad going?
00:50:18
Reese
Yeah.
00:50:22
Ryne
Damn, I was really hoping you guys weren't going be able to go.
00:50:24
Cokeley Brothers
I knew that was going to happen, too. knew that was going to happen.
00:50:29
Ryne
Damn it!
00:50:31
Cokeley Brothers
It's going to be okay, Ryan.
00:50:32
Ryne
I know.
00:50:33
Cokeley Brothers
It's going
00:50:33
Ryne
i don't um'm Honestly, I'm really not that sad about missing it.
00:50:37
Cokeley Brothers
to be okay. It's going to be fun. It's going be exciting. ah
Hendrickson vs. Steveson Hope
00:50:42
Cokeley Brothers
if there's If there's one thing that I'm hoping does happen at NCAAs, and you guys should hope for the exact same thing, it's Wyatt Hendrickson beating Gable Steveson.
00:50:52
Cokeley Brothers
I'm putting all my spiritual my spiritual energy into that. Into getting that to happen. Because that would just.
00:50:58
Ryne
That's, I mean, I'm not going to give it all of it.
00:50:58
Reese
ah be epic.
00:51:01
Ryne
I'll give you about, I'll give you about 25% of my spiritual energy.
00:51:02
Cokeley Brothers
That would just make me.
00:51:05
Ryne
I'm not giving you a hundred percent.
00:51:06
Cokeley Brothers
Rep it.
00:51:06
Reese
twenty five 25. You
00:51:07
Cokeley Brothers
Rep it.
00:51:10
Reese
you don't even live there.
00:51:10
Ryne
I want Wyatt to win too, but you know what?
00:51:12
Cokeley Brothers
Shut up. You don't live there either, but.
00:51:15
Ryne
I also want, you know what? Actually, let me take that back. Cause just, let me, well, let's wait to have this draft comes out here, which we need to schedule.
00:51:24
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Are we doing that again? Yeah, we need to schedule that. um
00:51:31
Ryne
That'll be happening while I'm up with you, Sam, for sure.
00:51:36
Cokeley Brothers
Sweet. Okay. ah
00:51:41
Ryne
Down with you. Excuse me. You're in the South.
00:51:42
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. you go I mean, if you go all the way up and around and over, you can figure it out.
00:51:47
Ryne
That would be a waste of my time. I would not do that.
00:51:48
Cokeley Brothers
That would be that'd be kind of fun, though, wouldn't it?
00:51:51
Ryne
No.
00:51:51
Cokeley Brothers
You look out the window and you'd be like, wow, there's ice as far as you can see.
00:51:51
Ryne
Fuck.
00:51:54
Cokeley Brothers
And then and then the plane starts to crash because the poles are switching.
00:51:55
Ryne
I mean, you know that planes are just like crashing into each other, falling out of the sky.
00:51:55
Reese
he'd be like You'd be like, wait a minute.
00:52:00
Ryne
Like, no, I did not want to be on planes.
00:52:00
Reese
here Hey, you know, mom, mom, she's pretty, she she blames the plane crashes on
00:52:00
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan, Ryan, Ryan, you're drinking the social media Kool-Aid too much. We are still on a historic, on a downtrend of, ah historically on a downtrend of plane crashes, plane accidents year over year.
00:52:14
Ryne
I just watched one about, I just watched two planes about crash into each other on a runway just not that long ago.
00:52:14
Cokeley Brothers
as You're seeing it more. It's,
00:52:19
Cokeley Brothers
it's, it's,
00:52:25
Cokeley Brothers
DT.
00:52:26
Reese
Yeah.
00:52:26
Cokeley Brothers
Freaking David Taylor, man.
00:52:28
Reese
Yeah, freaking David Taylor. Magic man.
00:52:30
Cokeley Brothers
David Taylor just ruined it.
00:52:31
Ryne
Oh, mom.
00:52:31
Reese
Magically.
00:52:31
Cokeley Brothers
he He said, he bibbidi-bobbidi-boo!
00:52:34
Reese
yeah
00:52:35
Ryne
Mom.
00:52:35
Reese
Not cool. R.I.P. though.
00:52:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:52:38
Reese
To all those people.
00:52:38
Ryne
Mom.
00:52:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. No, that sucked. But, ah no, you'll be fine on your... but I hope you'll be fine because I also have two sets of flights that I have to go through, so...
00:52:48
Ryne
The only reason I feel safe is because none of these none of these accidents are surrounding Southwest and you know,
00:52:48
Reese
Dude, every time I fly, I'm freaked out.
00:52:55
Cokeley Brothers
it is It is statistically, and I think by a hefty margin, the safest way to travel.
Fear of Flying Discussion
00:53:02
Ryne
It is.
00:53:02
Reese
I tell you though, dude, the fact that it's just completely out your hands is really what gets to me. I just, hate it.
00:53:09
Reese
I feel like with a car, at least I'm in control.
00:53:09
Ryne
Yes.
00:53:11
Ryne
Also, yes.
00:53:12
Cokeley Brothers
ah half Half of car accidents are also out ah out of hands.
00:53:12
Reese
Yeah. And, and also, i just cannot imagine being in a plane crash. Like, dude, going that fast, that, just kill me, please. Just like, I do not want to survive.
00:53:24
Reese
do not want to survive a plane crash.
00:53:25
Ryne
I would survive. I would survive unscathed.
00:53:26
Reese
What?
00:53:27
Cokeley Brothers
Oh my God.
00:53:29
Reese
Yeah, but you would not. mitt um Mentally and emotionally, you would be freaking scarred, bro.
00:53:34
Ryne
I don't know if I would be.
00:53:37
Reese
Aw, you, come on.
00:53:39
Ryne
ah watched I've watched a lost three times. I think I'd be OK.
00:53:46
Cokeley Brothers
Let's get back to the wrestling here.
00:53:46
Reese
don't know.
00:53:48
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:53:50
Cokeley Brothers
The most unpredictable weight class that we are going to see is well it's one of two I'll give you guys some options here. It's either 133 or 157.
00:54:02
Ryne
It's got to be 33.
00:54:03
Reese
What are we
00:54:04
Cokeley Brothers
think it's
00:54:06
Reese
doing? 33 is what?
00:54:07
Ryne
All right. You want my order of confidence? Here it is. Okay.
00:54:10
Cokeley Brothers
your order confidence.
00:54:10
Reese
Oh, that's your most confident weight. Oh,
00:54:16
Ryne
Here we go.
00:54:16
Cokeley Brothers
ah you mere order of confidence
00:54:16
Ryne
Ready? All right. Okay.
00:54:20
Ryne
Heavyweight.
Confidence in Wrestling Weight Classes
00:54:22
Ryne
um Next is probably 65.
00:54:26
Reese
what about 65? would
00:54:27
Cokeley Brothers
I do 65 over heavyweight personally, but that's okay.
00:54:30
Ryne
Yeah, I know.
00:54:30
Reese
i would
00:54:31
Ryne
Because, i mean, I love Wyatt too, but heavyweight.
00:54:37
Reese
Disrespectful
00:54:37
Ryne
65.
00:54:38
Ryne
It's not. um I'm going to go with I got think. I got to think. Put me on the spot. I'm going to
00:54:47
Reese
ah
00:54:50
Ryne
Stop. I hate you guys.
00:54:51
Reese
You will say use your bar Ferrari oh Yeah Yeah
00:54:52
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:54:52
Ryne
90. I'm going 97. I'm going 97 as my third.
00:54:57
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. No.
00:54:59
Ryne
No.
00:55:00
Cokeley Brothers
Buchanan.
00:55:01
Ryne
Buchanan, baby.
00:55:02
Cokeley Brothers
He's picking Buchanan, yeah.
00:55:03
Ryne
It looks so good, man.
00:55:05
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but you got Ferrari looming.
00:55:08
Ryne
Yeah, but he's, dude, he's he's a ducker, but man, he's not going to be battle-tested.
00:55:12
Reese
Yeah, what's up with that?
00:55:14
Ryne
He's just not going battle-tested.
00:55:16
Reese
He will have to be battle-tested just strictly based on the fact that he has to go to conferences, and they won't be very tough.
00:55:21
Ryne
who's he going to have to wrestle at conferences? Little?
00:55:24
Cokeley Brothers
Steve!
00:55:24
Reese
Steven Little.
00:55:24
Cokeley Brothers
Steve!
00:55:25
Reese
Who else? There's some other guys in there.
00:55:27
Cokeley Brothers
Trey Munoz.
00:55:28
Reese
Trey Munos, yeah.
00:55:29
Ryne
Or No, I thought Munoz was out for the year.
00:55:29
Reese
Those are some...
00:55:30
Cokeley Brothers
and that's and then And then there's one other guy in the in the bracket. Nope, Munoz is back.
00:55:33
Reese
No, he's back.
00:55:34
Cokeley Brothers
we
00:55:34
Ryne
He's back?
00:55:35
Cokeley Brothers
Surprise, surprise, he's back.
00:55:37
Ryne
I'm still sticking with 97. Anyway, um I'm going to go...
00:55:45
Ryne
I'm going 25 at number four.
00:55:48
Ryne
Then we're going to go...
00:55:50
Reese
Are you going to say who or not?
00:55:53
Cokeley Brothers
Ramos.
00:55:54
Ryne
Yeah, Ramos, dude.
00:55:54
Reese
Oh, Ramos. Yeah, forgot about it.
00:55:55
Ryne
Man's been consistent as consistent can be. um And then we're going to go...
00:56:01
Reese
He ducked somebody.
00:56:03
Cokeley Brothers
Caleb Smith.
00:56:04
Reese
Caleb Smith.
00:56:05
Ryne
he did He ducked him. He ducked K. Smith.
00:56:07
Reese
Ducked him.
00:56:08
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think it was really his call, but it's fine.
00:56:10
Ryne
Well, it was senior day. so um Senior.
00:56:12
Reese
Yeah, that's crazy.
00:56:14
Cokeley Brothers
Is he a senior?
00:56:15
Reese
Yeah. no No, he's not.
00:56:16
Cokeley Brothers
He is. No, yeah, he wrestled 33, 25, 25.
00:56:17
Reese
He's got another year.
00:56:18
Cokeley Brothers
25. Yeah. 22, 23, 24, 25. Yep.
00:56:21
Cokeley Brothers
twenty five
00:56:22
Reese
I thought he had another year.
00:56:23
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:56:25
Reese
Oh.
00:56:25
Cokeley Brothers
twenty two twenty three twenty four twenty five
00:56:27
Ryne
You got it. um We're going to go.
00:56:30
Reese
I'm looking it up.
00:56:32
Ryne
So we went 25 at 4, 5. We're going go.
00:56:37
Cokeley Brothers
eighty four
00:56:38
Ryne
I think I got to, right? Got to go 84.
00:56:42
Cokeley Brothers
It's two guys. It's two guys.
00:56:43
Ryne
Yeah. want 41, 49. I mean, not 41, 49. I pretty good about
00:56:48
Cokeley Brothers
Probably 74 after that.
Interesting Weight Classes
00:56:51
Ryne
I'm taking at 49. 49, 41.
00:56:51
Cokeley Brothers
Either or 41.
00:56:53
Ryne
forty one forty nine i mean and forty one forty nine feel pretty good about who i'm taking at forty nine
00:56:57
Cokeley Brothers
Interesting. and there's There's four guys. There's four guys and I can't figure out which one of them is going to do it.
00:57:03
Ryne
forty nine
00:57:04
Reese
Yeah, i would say 49 is the most interesting weight for me.
00:57:05
Ryne
forty one 5733. I forgot to wait.
00:57:11
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I mean, 57 and 33 are definitely at the bottom. We'll know more after conferences.
00:57:15
Ryne
how to wait
00:57:17
Cokeley Brothers
It's just like, you don't know where the top three guys at 57 are at. You don't know. KSAC is probably fine.
Wrestling Injuries Concerns
00:57:25
Cokeley Brothers
ah Look, when it comes to Penn State getting the most out of their wrestlers, they do the best in the postseason.
00:57:31
Cokeley Brothers
but Ja'Cory Teamer hurt his hamstring earlier this year and then showed up to last or to last week's duel with a shoulder brace. So it's like, what's what's happening there? And then Meyer Shapiro, he's a head case.
00:57:43
Cokeley Brothers
We all see it. He barely wrestled this year. He wrestled, i don't even I don't even know how many matches, but he he had a head issue or at the beginning of the year, he had head issues last year. Probably going to have him again over these next four weeks.
00:57:57
Cokeley Brothers
So so you you don't when you don't know what the top three at at the weight look like, And then and Cody Chittum, who was starting to have some like consistency, and he started to seem like a guy, just loses to James Conway.
00:58:09
Ryne
yeah how ready How ready is Crookham going to be?
00:58:09
Cokeley Brothers
Then you have OnTrail Taylor. You have Joey Blaze. You have Ryder Downey. There's a lot of variance there. But 133 is a crap shoot outside of Drake Ayala.
00:58:21
Cokeley Brothers
It's a mess. Maybe Lucas Bird. But he's too close.
00:58:26
Ryne
Crookham's not going to wrestle, is he?
00:58:27
Cokeley Brothers
Kirkham... No, he's going to wrestle. I think Crookham's going to wrestle.
Crookham's Decision to Wrestle
00:58:30
Cokeley Brothers
I think Crookham knows, hey, ah because he's because, Ryan, I think this is I think this is an element that more people are starting to realize you if you can, you got to do it because you don't know what you don't know what you your health is going to look like.
00:58:30
Ryne
Why, though? Why?
00:58:34
Ryne
Why?
00:58:38
Ryne
Why?
00:58:41
Cokeley Brothers
You really don't. Especially for Crookham, we know that he's been injury prone. He had the problems in high school.
00:58:48
Cokeley Brothers
So he's but if he can do it, he's going to try. That's just the way it is. And that's the that's the right thing to do.
00:58:53
Ryne
It's the, it's, it's, you know what it is? It's Jesse Delgado.
00:58:57
Cokeley Brothers
Don't call it that. Dude. I think...
00:58:58
Ryne
It's Jesse Delgado all over again.
Jesse Delgado's Injury Struggles
00:59:01
Reese
Two-time national champ to Jesse Delgado.
00:59:04
Ryne
Yeah, um dude, his senior year was, ah I mean, he shouldn't have wrestled that year. He should have taken his med and come back the next year.
00:59:11
Reese
What happened? I can't remember.
00:59:13
Ryne
He tried to wrestle when he was hurt. He was hurt the whole entire year, you know, in and out, and he just should have stayed out and in medical registered and came back to the next year healthy.
00:59:15
Cokeley Brothers
du
00:59:23
Cokeley Brothers
i think
00:59:24
Reese
How did he do?
00:59:26
Ryne
He didn't place.
00:59:26
Cokeley Brothers
Hey, didn't place. i think he went 0-2 even maybe.
00:59:27
Reese
Oh.
00:59:28
Ryne
No, he went one and two at least, maybe two and two.
00:59:29
Reese
I forgot about that.
00:59:32
Cokeley Brothers
yeah that was not good. ah
00:59:35
Ryne
Seventh, or first, first DNP.
00:59:35
Cokeley Brothers
i think i think there's some I think there's some things outside of...
00:59:40
Reese
Matt McDonough style.
00:59:41
Ryne
Yeah, McDonough. i McDonough should have probably met Reddit his senior year.
00:59:45
Cokeley Brothers
dude When you get towards the end, it for specific people, this isn't the case for everybody, but I think it's the case for a lot of people.
Fun in Wrestling by David Taylor
00:59:53
Cokeley Brothers
When you get to the that last year, those last couple of years, you start to feel that the where ah wear on your tread.
01:00:00
Cokeley Brothers
ah you're You're starting to feel like, I need... I need to start making my way out.
01:00:04
Reese
gotta get out.
01:00:05
Cokeley Brothers
My exit strategy. And i think i i think i texted I think I texted you guys about this realization that I had in terms of why it's so important and why David Taylor was so insistent about the guys that we bring in and and the team that we have.
01:00:09
Ryne
For me...
01:00:21
Cokeley Brothers
We got to make sure that it's fun. Because if you show up and it's just a grind and you're just suffering all the time, you're not going to want to do it all the time.
01:00:32
Cokeley Brothers
Right. But if you're having fun and you're always looking forward to it and and it's, it's always a positive experience, maybe not always, but mostly then you're going to, you're going to be enthusiastic about being in the sport, about going to compete.
01:00:45
Ryne
yeah and Let me go back on the Matt McDonough stuff. he should have Him and Ramos should have swapped that year.
01:00:52
Reese
Trump weights.
01:00:53
Ryne
Yes. In fact, it was talked about.
01:00:55
Reese
Yeah, I feel like Ramos could have totally wrestled 25.
01:00:58
Ryne
No, it was talked about. It was a discussion.
01:01:00
Reese
Yeah, I kind of remember that.
01:01:00
Cokeley Brothers
mean, he wrestled 57 kilos.
01:01:01
Ryne
It was for real like a discussion and then didn't happen.
01:01:02
Cokeley Brothers
So, yeah.
01:01:08
Ryne
Not that McDonough would have beat Stieber or anything, but like he wouldn't have DMP'd, that's for sure.
01:01:12
Reese
Would've been cool. last Trevor Sprinkle.
01:01:18
Ryne
Trent in DSU.
01:01:19
Reese
Trent.
01:01:21
Cokeley Brothers
Trent Sprinkle?
01:01:22
Ryne
He got beat he got beat by a nation in the quarters and then sprinkle in the blood round.
01:01:28
Cokeley Brothers
Sprinkle.
01:01:29
Reese
Sprinkle.
01:01:31
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah, man. I, oh, here's another question I had. This is kind of an aside because I thought about this. So let's do, do you want to give yours out?
01:01:39
Reese
we goingnna each Are we going to each do our order of confidence or what what are we doing here?
01:01:42
Ryne
No, know what? I honestly, I already forgot what mine was. I need to, we needed to write it down.
01:01:47
Reese
let's just leave it alone.
01:01:48
Ryne
Yeah. do it next time.
01:01:51
Reese
Sneak preview.
01:01:51
Cokeley Brothers
We'll do it next time. Sneak preview. But so let's, let's take what we currently have, right?
Penn State's Dominance
01:01:58
Cokeley Brothers
Which is Penn state number one by a mile and a half. And the number two, Oklahoma or number two, Iowa, number three, Oklahoma state close thin margin, right?
01:02:08
Cokeley Brothers
If this was the case, but you remove Penn state. So first place is, is a fight between Iowa and Oklahoma state. Do you think Tom brands puts Angelo Ferrari out there?
01:02:19
Ryne
No. Maybe.
01:02:19
Reese
Oh,
01:02:21
Reese
so
01:02:24
Cokeley Brothers
Because he can get it done without Angelo?
01:02:24
Reese
so
01:02:26
Ryne
maybe
01:02:29
Reese
yeah. Oh. Bro, if the team title was on the line, you don't think he'd wrestle AJ?
01:02:37
Cokeley Brothers
Well, it's not AJ, it's Angelo.
01:02:37
Ryne
He might. not It's Angelo, but yeah, he might, he might, but at the same time, I mean, you know how I was, I was until Spencer Lee didn't believe in pulling red shirts.
01:02:39
Reese
Angelo?
01:02:49
Ryne
So.
01:02:52
Cokeley Brothers
They did it for Assad, which was after Spencer Lee. ah so but but So we're after Spencer Lee. They so they they just they just burned, yeah.
01:02:57
Reese
I just be burning shirts all the time. Now, what is Miguel? Was he a freshman?
01:03:01
Cokeley Brothers
They burned Miguel's. Set that shit on fire.
01:03:05
Reese
I don't like it.
01:03:06
Ryne
That was a terrible call.
01:03:08
Cokeley Brothers
Terrible call! For what? To beat Maryland? You're gonna do it anyway.
01:03:12
Ryne
Yeah, terrible.
01:03:15
Cokeley Brothers
maybe make maybe but hey Maybe Miguel's like, I know what's gonna happen.
01:03:17
Reese
I don't care.
01:03:18
Cokeley Brothers
I gotta to get this show on the road. I gotta move along.
01:03:21
Ryne
Why? What do you mean he knows what's going to happen?
01:03:24
Cokeley Brothers
that Hey, I'm here for four years and that's it.
01:03:26
Reese
So was this guy like a high recruit?
01:03:27
Ryne
I heard he's leaving.
01:03:27
Cokeley Brothers
Redshirt or not.
01:03:28
Ryne
I bet he's leaving after this year.
01:03:31
Cokeley Brothers
To go somewhere else? Why?
01:03:34
Reese
That's why. You know,
Iowa Transfers and Coaching
01:03:36
Reese
I'm going to say this about these guys.
01:03:36
Cokeley Brothers
Why?
01:03:37
Reese
that You know, a lot of evidence pointing to things not going very well for guys transferring out of Iowa. um And that makes me think, you know,
01:03:49
Reese
I feel like maybe we don't put enough respect on the Brands bros for what they do with like guys like Glazer and Lee Pritz.
01:03:55
Ryne
Yeah. Lee Pritz.
01:03:59
Reese
What's he say?
01:04:00
Ryne
Lee Pritz just he'll tweet stuff like Iowa can't coach.
01:04:05
Reese
Yeah, man. It's just like, that's not true.
01:04:07
Ryne
Like, yeah, it's clearly not true.
01:04:10
Reese
and They get guys like so like a lot better and in that room pretty clearly.
01:04:13
Ryne
Look at Buchanan.
01:04:15
Reese
Yeah, Buchanan looks good.
01:04:19
Ryne
So.
01:04:19
Reese
Teamer looks about as good as he's ever looked, even with the injuries.
01:04:19
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
01:04:23
Cokeley Brothers
Speaking of transfers, and one one that is... i still I really don't know what to think of this guy this late into the season, because he started at 57, and now at 49, and he looks really
Ethan Stiles at 149
01:04:36
Cokeley Brothers
good.
01:04:36
Cokeley Brothers
It's Ethan Stiles.
01:04:39
Reese
Yeah, he good.
01:04:41
Cokeley Brothers
Dude. I wonder what... I mean... So he had... He's got one loss at 149. It's Gabe Willishell. He lost 11 to 10. That was his first match at 149.
01:04:52
Cokeley Brothers
Ever since then, he's beaten Jordan Williams, Jaden Abbas, Chance Lamer, and most recently, Lachlan McNeil.
01:04:59
Reese
Dang dude, he beat Lachlan McNeil?
01:05:00
Ryne
Yeah, he is an AA contender for sure, but can he can he crack into those guys with Parco and Van Ness and Lovett?
01:05:03
Reese
How bad did he-
01:05:03
Cokeley Brothers
Is he is he a landmine? Beat him 5-3.
01:05:07
Reese
How bad did he beat McNeil?
01:05:09
Cokeley Brothers
five three him five three I don't know. I think he's he might be he might be a... ah No, not a landmine. He's a sleeper.
01:05:18
Reese
Slipper So what what are his losses?
01:05:18
Cokeley Brothers
He's he's a sleeper.
01:05:20
Ryne
What is the difference?
01:05:21
Reese
Just the one? Hmm
01:05:22
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know, Ryan. There's some sort of difference. At 49, there's one loss. It's Gabe Willishell.
01:05:27
Cokeley Brothers
At 57, it was a little bit different. It's still good, but i mean he lost in sudden victory to Entrell Taylor. Then he got pinned by Jimmy Harrington and got teched by Joey Blaze. That was all at CKLV. He had he went 1-2 at CKLV after a hot start to the season.
Podcast Wrap-Up and Engagement
01:05:42
Ryne
I need to wrap
01:05:42
Cokeley Brothers
So that's a guy to keep an eye on. Yeah, yeah. But we do need to wrap this up. Final thoughts.
01:05:50
Reese
Final thoughts
01:05:50
Ryne
Nate Jackson just scored a takedown on Kennedy Monday.
01:05:54
Reese
We're playing rock-paper-scissors for who gets to watch leave and I'm not so no scale All right, I don't really want to watch that it that bad anyway
01:05:59
Cokeley Brothers
Have at it, brothers. If you're still here, if you're still here, subscribe.
01:06:04
Ryne
Rock, paper, scissors.
01:06:08
Cokeley Brothers
if you're still here ah subscribe
01:06:13
Reese
Subscribe bitch Oh Oh, he's just a Nate Jackson He he reverse crammed him, you know
01:06:13
Cokeley Brothers
Subscribe to the podcast.
01:06:15
Ryne
Oh, Kennedy with a big feet to back. Just putting, ah, dude, that was sick.
01:06:18
Cokeley Brothers
Oh.
01:06:20
Ryne
I thought he was about to pin Nate Jackson there.
01:06:21
Cokeley Brothers
Good timing.
01:06:23
Ryne
Yes, dude.
01:06:23
Cokeley Brothers
You hit him with a cram?
01:06:25
Ryne
He crammed the crammer. Yes, he crammed him.
01:06:27
Cokeley Brothers
Hey, you know what? You know what? And and ladies ladies ladies and gentlemen, cram that cram that like button. Cram down your cram hole.
01:06:33
Reese
Yeah, cram it hit you with a hurricane
01:06:35
Ryne
Cram down your crammer, LeFleur.
01:06:36
Cokeley Brothers
Alright. Have a good one. Goodbye.