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SIPA Paranormal Chronicles S1 E5 Beyond the Haunting with Corine and Leanne
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In this week's episode we talk to Medium Corine Carey and Sensitive Leanne Sallenback on what it was like having growing up with abilities and their company Beyond the Haunting.
We also chat about their appearances on the T&E Shows Haunted History: Gold Rush Trail, Haunted Gold Rush and History most Haunted
We talk about how intense some investigations can be, their Future endeavors and much more.
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:00:13
Lee Hatfield
So hi everybody and welcome to the latest episode of SEPA Paranormal Chronicles. Today I am overexcited to be having the girls from Beyond the Haunting and the better known from the girls from History Most Haunted, Leanne and Corinne.
00:00:32
Lee Hatfield
Welcome both.
00:00:32
Corine
Hello.
00:00:33
Leanne Sallenback
Hey, thanks for having us
00:00:33
Corine
Thanks so much. Yeah, but this is exciting.
00:00:35
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. I say, oh oh trust me, I've been told by my wife I'm not allowed to fanboy. Trust me. but this This is a thing today. I don't normally do this, but with you guys, like, oh, my God.
00:00:48
Leanne Sallenback
us. Well, you've seen the show.
00:00:49
Corine
Well, thanks. Yeah.
00:00:51
Lee Hatfield
I have. And I don't know if you saw, coin but I put a comment when it was announced that he was going to Ireland next year. i actually put her put a comment saying that if you want a translator,
00:01:04
Corine
Oh, that that was you.
00:01:04
Lee Hatfield
Like, I'm, see, yeah.
00:01:07
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah.
00:01:07
Corine
Well, if you want to come, I know there's still some spots left.
00:01:07
Leanne Sallenback
Sweet.
00:01:09
Corine
So yes, let's buts see what we can do.
00:01:11
Lee Hatfield
Well, the wife the wife went to Japan by herself last year. So she says, if you want to go and go to Ireland with Corinne, just let me know and I'll pay for the flight. Okay.
00:01:21
Lee Hatfield
then
00:01:22
Corine
wow.
Discovering Paranormal Abilities
00:01:22
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:01:22
Leanne Sallenback
yeah
00:01:23
Lee Hatfield
So you might be seeing me.
00:01:23
Corine
yeah Sounds good. We'll talk but touch base.
00:01:27
Lee Hatfield
Oh, for sure. For sure. And i've got have a couple of beers. Sounds like a plan.
00:01:31
Corine
Absolutely.
00:01:32
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. Okay. So let's crack on. So i know it's been said by both of you in the TV shows that you started having your abilities at a very early age.
00:01:43
Lee Hatfield
So can you kind of tell me how that came about and sort of like the the problems that you both went through when yeah you started experiencing your abilities?
00:01:55
Corine
Yeah, I can start with that one. Yeah, I'm the older sister. So Leanne's my little sister. And yeah, when I was three, it's kind of a longer story, but when I was three years old, I was in a car accident with our grandmother and it was pretty bad.
00:02:12
Corine
And, you know, she had gotten pulled under the car outside. She'd fallen out, gotten dragged under and we were going pretty fast down this hill and we crashed into this ditch. And that was the first time I remember, and didn't have a seatbelt on, it was like the early 80s.
00:02:27
Corine
I guess she cut them out or something, I don't know. And i i was in the back seat and I land ended up in the front seat and I remember looking up, like when i came to, remember looking up, seeing my grandmother looking into the car completely,
00:02:33
Lee Hatfield
Thank you.
00:02:42
Corine
I thought she was dead. And then I was panicking and all of a sudden I heard this man's voice and I turned and there was somehow this man in a plaid shirt sitting kind of next to me in the car, which didn't make sense because he wasn't really there. like As a three-year-old, I couldn't process.
00:02:59
Corine
So I remember, long story short, when I got home from the hospital, got home that night, I remember telling my parents, like, who's that guy in the plaid shirt? He's in our house now. like He's in our bedroom door. And I just kept seeing this blood sugar. I'd back to the doctor. I'd go and then I'd see other people. and And then, you know, it was to the point where I'm like, well, he's saying, you know, like this person's going to pass away tomorrow. And I'd get in trouble for saying that. And then we get the call next day that someone was going to but that they had passed away.
00:03:26
Corine
So I have had these experiences since I was young and it turned out that, you know, we found out later on that it was our biological grandfather who had passed away when our dad was very young. And from that moment of three years old, our grandma did survive. She lived into her nineties.
00:03:40
Corine
didn't really drive with her again, but
00:03:44
Corine
I had those experiences the whole time.
00:03:44
Leanne Sallenback
Thank you.
00:03:46
Corine
And so by the time I was like, I think it was like eight, nine years old, Obviously our parents were concerned. And so I remember I was tested for, you know, schizophrenia, for brain tumors. I was tested for all these medical things just to see what
Developing and Managing Abilities
00:03:59
Corine
was going on. And when they all came back fine, I just learned to kind of be quiet and not share everything I was experiencing, thinking like there's obviously something wrong with me if no one else can see these things.
00:04:10
Corine
But then enter Leanne and then all of a sudden I'm seeing her and I'm like, wait a minute. And I'll let her tell her part. Yeah.
00:04:17
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, so we like shared a room as kids and like I would start seeing like shadow things and lights. So we created this game called Spot the Spirit that we played like as very well, I was very young.
00:04:30
Leanne Sallenback
And, you know, it was a way to like, yeah, it was a way to like test ourselves and like practice and like work the muscle of the paranormal.
00:04:31
Corine
It was more of a test. Okay.
00:04:35
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:04:40
Leanne Sallenback
But like Corrine from that moment on kept quiet about it because of all that testing and the trauma and everything she went through. But I was the kid where was like telling everyone I was talking about it at school.
00:04:52
Leanne Sallenback
You know, i just like shouted it from the rooftops and was so happy for anybody to engage in conversation. Like I was like the weird kid talking about this stuff. So i had I didn't say I had problems because by the time Green like paved the way and like by the time I came along my parents were like whatever, you know.
00:05:11
Corine
You're welcome.
00:05:13
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:05:13
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah.
00:05:13
Lee Hatfield
like So, so Corinne, did you kind of like coach Leanne into like recognizing all these spirits?
00:05:20
Corine
Yeah. I was at first so shocked that somebody else could see what I was seeing that I was like, okay, let's that's where Spot the Spirit came from. i'm like, well, where is it now? like
00:05:31
Leanne Sallenback
Thank you.
00:05:31
Corine
What did it look like like? And so when she was younger, it was like a game, right? So yeah, and when she started to realize, and when she started, there was one time I remember she saw something at our uncle's house that I remember, i don't even know if you remember, you were pretty young.
00:05:43
Corine
And I remember I saw this woman walk through living room clear as day. And I remember it was a neighbor from down the road who had passed away. And all of a sudden, Leanne's like watching too. And I'm like, wait a minute.
00:05:56
Corine
Well, it was things like that where I'm like, okay, what are you seeing? Like, where is it? And so I would test her and kind of guide her like, yeah, it's not going to hurt you. But who is it? And what are they? Can you hear it? Can you see it? Where is it?
00:06:07
Corine
And from there, I kind of, she was kind of like my, i don't know, it's like my my rock at some point in the paranormal world. Because it was like, okay, well, someone else does have that ability. So what is it? And that's where my curiosity really spiked.
00:06:19
Corine
Because it went from me going, well, am I losing it? Like, what's wrong with me? To wait a minute, someone else can experience
00:06:26
Lee Hatfield
Right.
00:06:26
Corine
And like Leanne, like she said, she was telling everybody. I remember in elementary school, the story is that it's hilarious.
00:06:31
Leanne Sallenback
Thank you.
00:06:32
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:06:33
Corine
And by the time she met Kelly, it was like, well, here we go.
00:06:33
Lee Hatfield
So.
00:06:36
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. So it's really weird because my first experience with a paranormal, I was a paramedic in the UK and I'm working with a new colleague because my regular colleague was off sick, get called to a cardiac arrest.
00:06:48
Corine
oh wow
00:06:48
Lee Hatfield
So we're doing CPR. And this guy that I've only met in that night is going, the spirit's telling me that you can stop doing CPR because he's not coming back. And I'm like, excuse me, dude.
00:07:01
Lee Hatfield
What? ah ah what And he goes, yeah, like the spirit stood behind you. that yeah his' It's his time. is not And I'm like, Okay, well, with all due respect, can you please tell him I need to do my job?
00:07:14
Lee Hatfield
And then afterwards, it's like, dude, you can't throw that on me in the middle of a cardiac arrest. Yeah, he could have told me afterwards.
00:07:20
Leanne Sallenback
Oh my God.
00:07:21
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, and it's like...
00:07:21
Corine
That's a lot.
00:07:23
Corine
Yeah.
00:07:23
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:07:23
Leanne Sallenback
That is wild.
00:07:23
Lee Hatfield
this like okay, what did I just experience? And it's like, oh I'm quizzing this guy for the rest of the night. if If there's any other spirits near me, you must let me know because like i need to I've got a job to do. I've got like a legal right.
00:07:36
Lee Hatfield
And it's like, we're okay. We're okay. There's none present. So the fact that yeah you have to hide it and the fact that this guy just like throws it straight onto me, I'm like, dude, come on.
00:07:47
Leanne Sallenback
That would have been me as a paramedic.
00:07:48
Corine
Yeah. Totally.
00:07:52
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. So it's really funny that one of the questions that I actually had was like, who was the best at spot the spirit? But you kind of answered that question for me already.
00:08:01
Corine
I don't think she failed once, so, yeah.
00:08:02
Lee Hatfield
so
00:08:05
Lee Hatfield
So
Comfort and Acceptance of Abilities
00:08:07
Lee Hatfield
you say that it started at a very early age. So when would you say that you really got comfortable knowing what you know and knowing that you weren't going crazy for both of you?
00:08:18
Corine
Well, for me, it was... Well, that's a hard question. So I've had, like... It's like a roller coaster for me. So by the time I was 16, when we found out that it was our grandfather in the plaid shirt, that to me was kind of the moment where I'm like, okay, this is real.
00:08:33
Corine
That is who I've seen for my whole life. There's something going on. So at that point, I kind of became comfortable, like... in my own sense, to investigate what that was. So I read everything. I watched every show. I was like, I was like secretly reading all these books every night and trying to figure what was going on.
00:08:51
Corine
But then I was also, you know, a young adult. I wanted to, you know, get into a career. and you know, I just remember my parents going, you don't tell people like that's, That's a little strange. So, you know, I became a high school history teacher and there was no way I was going to be telling anyone in my career.
00:09:10
Corine
So I kept it quiet and I really didn't, I would say, well, we started the company, what, 2016-ish? So I would say it was probably like 2010, 2011 that I really became serious.
00:09:21
Corine
And then we really just like full out. Now everybody knows. And yeah, so it's it's been a journey for me.
00:09:27
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:09:27
Corine
That's hard.
00:09:28
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, i'd like, so for me, like growing up, I don't see and sense things exactly like Corinne, like, i don't see people as clear and I don't have the medium ability, but I like, see different things, sense different things.
00:09:29
Lee Hatfield
What about yourself, Liam?
00:09:43
Leanne Sallenback
It's more like premonitions and knowing with me. So when like, things would start to happen that I like instantly had sensed or knew about the day before, then I was like, okay, there's something to this for sure.
00:09:55
Leanne Sallenback
And then it's kind of funny because like I went kind of the corporate route and I remember being in boardrooms, like corporate boardrooms. And like I would use paranormal as like my icebreaker stuff and like, you know, like just tell tell everybody. And I was like ridiculed, like in a funny, like, haha, Leanne, whatever kind of way.
00:10:16
Leanne Sallenback
But I wasn't afraid to talk about it and like share experiences. And then people would kind of come to me off the side and, you know, share their story or whatever.
00:10:26
Lee Hatfield
and And that's really interesting because we had an investigation and a couple of weeks ago and it was the first time that I'd ever worked with a medium. She actually came over from Cleveland because we're in obviously in in Canada.
00:10:39
Lee Hatfield
But that's one thing that I'm always intrigued about people that have abilities is... I want to experience what you guys experience. So if you can, if you guys can explain to me and explain to the listeners, yeah what happens when you see, when you feel, when you sense, when you hear, because obviously it's different for both of you.
00:10:59
Lee Hatfield
So I'll be interested to know exactly yeah what visions you see or what you hear and how the spirits come across to communicate with you.
00:11:08
Corine
Yeah, for sure. And it's funny, like you said, like just even between me, Leanne and Kelly, were we experience things so differently. And I've talked to so many psychics and mediums and psychic mediums and empaths and everything. And it seems that they're they're all slightly different, but it's almost like we have to fine tune our own gifts and skill sets.
00:11:24
Corine
But for me, it's always been a a couple different ways. So I guess the best way to articulate it would be... If I walk to a space and i and they say it's like a haunted building, i will usually be able to see them quite clearly.
00:11:38
Corine
But I never, for whatever reason, can never really see them from the knees down usually. So it's almost like they're kind of visually there, but see-through and transparent and kind of just hovering in the space or moving through the space slowly.
00:11:53
Corine
To me, that's a ghost. They're there. They're still haunting the building. If a spirit who has passed and fully crossed over comes through, it's almost like I feel them behind me first.
00:12:05
Corine
And then I've often said that it's, you know, those old, like nineteen twenty thirty s like the old, old school movie reels, the black and white reels.
00:12:14
Corine
It's kind of like that. And it's right here in my left peripheral vision. And it's just, it's flashing images. constantly and then I'm hearing things out of my left ear and I'm always trying to figure out who's here with me.
00:12:14
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:12:27
Corine
So it's almost like they come through on another kind of like energetic level, sharing energy, sharing images, sharing like senses and and smells and whatever they can to get my attention. And then once I've dialed it in and kind of figured out who it is, then I can get a picture of who they are. And sometimes I can see them, sometimes I can feel them.
00:12:44
Corine
So to me, that's more of someone who's fully crossed. wherever that might be. And they come back with messages to relay as opposed to someone who's like still clearly in that space, having whatever situation they're in.
00:12:59
Lee Hatfield
But okay.
00:12:59
Corine
So that's kind of for me.
00:13:01
Lee Hatfield
Okay. Leon?
00:13:03
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, and like in that situation, when we walk into a room, it's very funny also how we kind of amplify each other's abilities or compliment them. So like I'll walk into a room and I won't see like a person's face or whatever. I'll see like a shadow and I'll be drawn to a space. And I can't really explain it like, like energetically, I feel like I have to go to that corner or I have to go to that part. Like that's where they are.
00:13:27
Leanne Sallenback
And when I get there, sometimes like I will get one name, like really strong or male, female or something. So I'll be like, I feel like there's a man here. And then Korean like tunes in. Yep, it's Joe.
00:13:39
Leanne Sallenback
Like, this is like his story. And then Kelly, Kelly starts feeling what, you know, like, it just is amazing how we all kind of. go through that motion. But for me, it's also just being more confident.
00:13:49
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:13:52
Leanne Sallenback
And when I get something saying it, because like, that sense of knowing is hard to just be like blurred out because you don't want to be wrong, or you don't want to just say it because you think it or
00:13:55
Lee Hatfield
Oh,
00:14:03
Corine
Mm-hmm.
00:14:03
Lee Hatfield
but surely, with all three of you being together and all three, you've got your separate abilities for you to blurt it out. Shouldn't be so much of a discomfort for you now, because you know that the other girls are experiencing similar kinds of things.
00:14:18
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, like that's the beauty of doing this for so long together and working together is like it's different now, where before it's kind of like, oh, I don't know why the name Mary is like constantly in my head and maybe I should say that or something,
00:14:22
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:31
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. And it...
00:14:32
Corine
Well, I think it's good too, because now speaking to that point, like when the three of us are together, i joke that like, I don't seem to think I do this, but Leanne and Kelly are like, oh, she's got something.
00:14:43
Corine
apparently I'm like, what?
00:14:46
Corine
So apparently I have signs that it starts.
00:14:46
Lee Hatfield
You can't.
00:14:46
Leanne Sallenback
yeah
00:14:46
Lee Hatfield
It's like...
00:14:48
Leanne Sallenback
Oh my God.
00:14:48
Corine
So I don't know.
00:14:49
Leanne Sallenback
You're like, I will twitch.
00:14:50
Lee Hatfield
like...
00:14:50
Leanne Sallenback
You're like lip will twitch. You're like tapping.
00:14:54
Lee Hatfield
And you're thinking, I can't take her anywhere.
00:14:54
Corine
So apparently they know before I do.
00:14:59
Corine
Exactly. Ask my husband. He feels the same.
00:14:59
Lee Hatfield
but
00:15:01
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. So talking about that, though, sort of like, is it something that you can switch off like a light switch? so Or yeah how do you kind of deal with a day-to-day basis?
00:15:12
Lee Hatfield
Like, yeah if you're in your school classroom, do you have somebody at the back of the room going, when you've got a minute, Corinne, can I speak to you?
00:15:18
Leanne Sallenback
Thank you.
00:15:19
Corine
You know what? There are days.
00:15:20
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:15:22
Corine
Great question. I think for myself, because i' was from such a young age, I was told it wasn't real. And that was such a defining childhood thing for me.
00:15:33
Corine
i still I'm so like, nope, I'm wrong. It's over. Block it down, shut it down. And I i can shut it down very easily. But now being fully open, it's like, whoa, I've got to like take some time here because you're right. There have been like schools, high schools are something else.
00:15:48
Corine
There's special places and the energy of those places can be a lot. You know, with colleagues and stuff too, I've had certain times where I didn't think I could keep my you know, professional life and my paranormal life separate in those spaces where, you know, I've had times where I was in the middle of a lesson and I'm writing things on the whiteboard and I got the whole class engaged and I'll turn around And, you know, I see it was my husband's grandmother standing in the back of the classroom. I'm like, oh, my God, like, I got to go.
00:16:17
Corine
And other and then if sure enough, she had passed away and I was pulling in the hospital. And, you know, and then other times where I have colleagues that had had something happen and I just knew and I, you know, they were like, how did you know that?
00:16:26
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:16:28
Corine
I'm like, lucky guess. So. There's been students who have had, you know, loved ones come through and I know they're there, but it's just, it's my rule. I won't bring that up at school.
00:16:37
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:16:37
Corine
So like they're there and I've seen them and they can be very distracting, but yeah, I've been getting really good at shutting that down in situations where it's not appropriate for my, for whatever situation, I guess.
00:16:48
Lee Hatfield
Yes, sort like getting ready to go out, just going to jump in the shower.
00:16:48
Corine
Yeah.
00:16:51
Corine
Yeah.
00:16:53
Lee Hatfield
Like, oh, man.
00:16:54
Corine
I've never had that. So that's good. Thank God.
00:16:57
Leanne Sallenback
Oh God, that's very like shining.
00:16:58
Corine
that's
00:16:58
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah.
00:16:59
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:16:59
Corine
hello
00:17:00
Lee Hatfield
so So, Leanne, can you sort of like like ignore it or switch off the same? Or how do you try?
00:17:06
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, it's a lot easier because the spirits don't harass me like they do great. But like the odd time in out of nowhere, like I could get like a quick flash image or something that's like powerful.
00:17:12
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:17:18
Leanne Sallenback
And like, you kind of know it means something because it lands different. So like, I'll have to tell my husband or I'll tell someone like, I think this is gonna happen just so you know, or whatever.
00:17:23
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:17:29
Leanne Sallenback
But yeah, it's a little different.
00:17:29
Lee Hatfield
so so So for both of you, if you if you feel like one of the the presence is going to speak to you and you feel it's something important, do you kind of tell your yeah your
From Passion to TV Shows
00:17:42
Lee Hatfield
nearest and dearest, I'm going to need five minutes, I need to deal with this?
00:17:45
Lee Hatfield
Or do you wait to it until it's a more appropriate time?
00:17:50
Corine
depends on the situation. I know that I've been out with friends and I'm like, I'm sorry, we're in the middle of a party, but there's that guy over there, I gotta go talk to him. Like, if you ask some of my friends, they're like, really, at my birthday party?
00:18:02
Corine
i'm like, I'm sorry. But like, the person's wife had passed away, I went over, she was really annoying me and I just couldn't let it go until I told the message.
00:18:04
Leanne Sallenback
Oh,
00:18:10
Corine
So, sorry. And then they're like, okay. But yeah, it just depends.
00:18:14
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, just yeah just just this once.
00:18:18
Corine
Yeah, exactly.
00:18:19
Lee Hatfield
so So obviously you joined forces with Kelly that unfortunately can't be here today. And I really was tempted to get a but a cardboard cutout of Kelly so that she could join us.
00:18:29
Leanne Sallenback
I should have had one.
00:18:29
Lee Hatfield
But is it yeah, that would have been like, the wife went, did you get your cutout?
00:18:31
Corine
That's amazing. Awesome.
00:18:35
Lee Hatfield
And went, no, I forgot to get it. But it's sort of like, so when when you three kind of came together and Beyond the Haunting was created, how was that how did that kind of happen? Because for SIPA, me and my two colleagues, we went to a pilot a public investigation, not knowing each other.
00:18:56
Lee Hatfield
we met We met for that particular evening. They'd got a couple of toys that they were playing with. I went, you know, need to speak to you guys because I was with a group that wasn't very active. And then two weeks later, met in a bar with a notebook, a couple of beers, and SEPA was created.
00:19:13
Lee Hatfield
So how was Beyond the Haunting created for you guys?
00:19:18
Corine
good question.
00:19:19
Leanne Sallenback
It was pretty organic. Like I remember we would just naturally investigate places and Kareen's always been interested in the gear and had ton of gear, like right off the bat. And so we're like, we should just go do this. And like, we'd start going to places like all over BC. And then we traveled, you know, farther than that. And then we just thought like, no one's doing this, like we should do this, like as a company, as a business. And in the beginning, we thought maybe more events, but then we just thought, you know, it's mostly for ourselves at this point to like,
00:19:51
Leanne Sallenback
you know, go down those rabbit holes and try to find all the information we can and try to get evidence. But the show itself came out of it was actually like kind of COVID because all the film festivals were online and
00:20:04
Corine
Mm-hmm.
00:20:08
Leanne Sallenback
we had been working with the BC like Tourism Association on like the haunted gold rush idea because we thought, you know, we want to feature the BC gold rush. and We all live along it at some point.
00:20:19
Leanne Sallenback
Like, it's a part of BC's history. Like, let's do this.
00:20:22
Lee Hatfield
know
00:20:23
Leanne Sallenback
And yeah, like, it just kind of, it landed perfectly. Like, we pitched it during to the Banff Film Festival and T&E loved it. So we just kind of went from there.
00:20:36
Lee Hatfield
that's that's cool so like yeah that's kind of our dream over here but we know that there's been so much of the market being flooded with so many different shows that i think we need to be a little bit more established because we've only been together like a year
00:20:37
Leanne Sallenback
Thank you.
00:20:52
Lee Hatfield
So, but like yeah the way that you guys kind of had your pilot and then you had sort of like yeah your next one and then you got History Most Haunted. So how did it come from pitching your pilot episode to then get six episodes of History Most Haunted?
00:21:10
Corine
It was really fast. i think like
00:21:12
Leanne Sallenback
Thank you.
00:21:13
Corine
weum I know that, like Leanne said, we started it all and you know we were doing it kind of for our own curiosity, really. And then we realized like when we got, like she said, the tourism stuff and the Haunted Gold Rush came out as a documentary, you know i don't think people had seen an all-female team
00:21:25
Lee Hatfield
Thank you.
00:21:30
Corine
on tv we filmed I think we wrapped the gold rush pretty quickly and then like within it like a couple months even weeks we were told that we had an opportunity for
Memorable Experiences and Locations
00:21:38
Corine
the series and it was just kind of like wow okay here we go so yeah it happened very quickly I don't really remember all the details but it was a quick turnaround before they greenlit the series for sure
00:21:49
Lee Hatfield
So did you guys have any any any voting options of what places to look to to visit? Did you have any choice in that? Or was like these locations picked for you?
00:22:00
Corine
We gave list of our like bucket list locations and then we threw one out like, hey, let's try.
00:22:04
Leanne Sallenback
yeah
00:22:07
Corine
And then I think it and like we didn't have, they picked the final locations and then told us we were going to to lake Montreal. We're going to San Antonio. We're going here. we're like, cool.
00:22:15
Lee Hatfield
of I was going to say, bucket list and, yeah, let's say Montreal, winter, Belle Island in the winter. It's sort of like...
00:22:21
Leanne Sallenback
oh my god bell island was so cold i know we talked about a lot but i re-watched it recently and i was laughing so hard because like we look so cold
00:22:21
Corine
Not on my bucket list.
00:22:21
Lee Hatfield
see
00:22:25
Corine
Oh.
00:22:31
Lee Hatfield
Oh, absolutely.
00:22:32
Corine
I was so cold.
00:22:35
Lee Hatfield
So if you had to pick a favourite location of the six episodes, which one would you say is your favourite? Obviously, it's not Belle Island because it was too cold.
00:22:45
Leanne Sallenback
Well, it was pretty cool.
00:22:45
Corine
Well, ironically, it actually is one of my favorites, though, because but like it changes by the day.
00:22:46
Leanne Sallenback
Mm-hmm.
00:22:50
Corine
Every time I rethink about one, I'm like, oh, that was cool, too. Or, oh, we you know, we just watched this one again. I would say, honestly, bi Island and Charleston, South Carolina were two big ones for me.
00:23:01
Corine
Belle Island, because it was just so... so, so powerful in that underground mine.
00:23:06
Lee Hatfield
Okay.
00:23:08
Corine
Like that was that was a submarine mine or whatever they call it. The iron ore mine under the ocean.
00:23:11
Leanne Sallenback
here
00:23:12
Corine
That was like, I was so, I've only been overwhelmed like that maybe twice, maybe three times like that I can remember. And it was like, I just felt like I should not be down there. It's like, get out of here. You're not welcome here. Leave. And I was like, why is that? Like, what the heck?
00:23:27
Corine
And it wasn't until afterwards that our local, think it was our local camera operator that was with us. He's like, you know, it was bad luck for women to be in the mine. So that makes total sense.
00:23:38
Corine
I'm like, well, that would have been nice to know. Like, I felt like, like, why am I feeling so like, get out of here? So that one was kind of powerful it's just because of the energy down there.
00:23:43
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:23:46
Corine
And then Charleston, I was getting like, I was getting dreams. I was getting like this image in my head. I was getting all these things for weeks before, which was kind of a new thing for me. Like sometimes you get things, but like you figure it out earlier.
00:23:59
Corine
This one just capped and it was like, yeah, I was pretty emotional in the Charleston episode. So when it all connected, I was like, holy. Yeah.
00:24:06
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, exactly. like say And the fact that it's kind of like joining the dots of a dot to dot, and then you've got the result at the end.
00:24:11
Corine
Yeah,
00:24:15
Corine
totally. Totally.
00:24:16
Lee Hatfield
So, Leanne, your favorite.
00:24:19
Leanne Sallenback
I know I always like switch it up, but I still go back to like Salem for me is so powerful because like, you know, I always try to explain to my friends or family about Salem and how like you guys they sent in three women with abilities.
00:24:33
Leanne Sallenback
to talk to these women who were like misjudged and like had these crazy injustices.
00:24:38
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:24:40
Leanne Sallenback
So like even the concept of that, I found pretty mind blowing. And when we were walking the memorial site and looking at all the names and dates like that stuck with me, I can remember every second walking that whole thing.
00:24:54
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, i know I know the fact that yeah even though two of the episodes were in Canada, I have to say Salem was pretty much one of my one of my favorites because of the but the barbaric situation that a lot of people in.
00:25:07
Lee Hatfield
And if you guys were around back then, you'd probably be on that that memorial as well.
00:25:12
Leanne Sallenback
who
00:25:12
Corine
That was not lost on us. Yes.
00:25:14
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, oh, for sure. So, yeah.
00:25:16
Leanne Sallenback
but a lot of those women were just like powerful women with like opinions or land or whatever you know like so it was very interesting
00:25:16
Corine
and
00:25:26
Lee Hatfield
That's great. So overall, you've but you've been investigating for a few years now. You created Beyond the Haunting. You managed to get a couple of TV shows.
00:25:38
Lee Hatfield
What would you say is your most prolific paranormal experience? doesn't have to be on the show, but overall of your entire career.
00:25:50
Lee Hatfield
yeah what What stands out the most?
00:25:55
Lee Hatfield
And if I keep asking too many good questions, I do apologize.
00:25:57
Corine
No, it makes me think it's good. Oh
00:26:00
Leanne Sallenback
Like I, for me, just because of what was happening at that moment. One time we were at the Washoe Club in Virginia City, Nevada.
00:26:08
Corine
my god, yeah.
00:26:11
Leanne Sallenback
Have you been there, Lee? Okay.
00:26:13
Lee Hatfield
I have not now.
00:26:14
Corine
Oh, you should.
00:26:14
Leanne Sallenback
So, yeah. So it was just this moment of Corrine being so overwhelmed and watching her go through this and me feeling stuff and, you knowing how many presences were around us trying to communicate with us was so overwhelming. And this is like an abandoned 9,000 square foot building
Teamwork and Investigation Techniques
00:26:33
Leanne Sallenback
with no power.
00:26:35
Leanne Sallenback
You know, this is gold for ghost investigating.
00:26:36
Lee Hatfield
Wow.
00:26:39
Leanne Sallenback
But like that sticks with me just because of how actually that was the first time I was fully terrified, I think just like pure fear, like because we had to get Karine out of the building. And then obviously I had to go back in by myself and get all the gear. Yeah.
00:26:54
Corine
Sorry, Leanne.
00:26:56
Leanne Sallenback
So, you know, it was just like trying to interact and navigate that space like stands out to me.
00:26:56
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:26:57
Lee Hatfield
The youngest...
00:27:02
Lee Hatfield
the Yeah, the youngest sibling is always the one that can be yeah like, and yeah, exactly.
00:27:06
Corine
I'm done, Leanne.
00:27:09
Corine
Yeah, no, I would agree with that. I think one of the reasons we went to Virginia City and Nevada was because we had seen so much of that on TV over the years. And, you know, I think some of the big shows got their starts by going there. we're like, well, it can't be that haunted. Like, we've been to tons of haunted places. Like, how haunted can the place be?
00:27:27
Corine
Wow. Yeah, we went in... That was surprising. i don't know. I think, like Leanne said, I think that was the first night we went in not really knowing what to expect. And then we had stayed in like the Silver Queen Hotel. And we had like, we were just, for the whole time we were there, we were just immersed in all these haunted places.
00:27:45
Corine
And by the time we got to our investigation overnight, that building had like, I've never been so, I almost felt, it sounds weird, but like rushed by so many energies.
00:27:56
Corine
I was seeing things and it was just like, I was shaking uncontrollably, like I couldn't process. I don't even think I could speak properly. Like Leanne and... no right
00:28:04
Leanne Sallenback
No, we had to hand you a pen because you had start writing everything down because you couldn't talk.
00:28:10
Corine
Yeah, I couldn't speak. I was writing everything frantically. i think you guys pulled me out. I remember sitting in the car, just still writing. And then the Ovalis is going, teacher. I'm like, yeah, I know, I'm busy. the next Yeah, it was crazy.
00:28:21
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:28:23
Corine
And then the next day when well I actually felt bad about sending Leanne and I was sitting in the car with a giant flashlight trying to help.
00:28:23
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:28:28
Corine
But but yeah, it was just it was overwhelmingly terrifying. And then when the owners and managers were confirming things the next morning, and mean, know we went to the cemetery to confirm certain names.
00:28:39
Corine
I was like, this is real. Like, holy.
00:28:42
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:28:42
Corine
So, yeah, that was that was a big one.
00:28:44
Lee Hatfield
It kind of reminds me of the the movie Ghost with Patrick Swayze and Whoopi Goldberg and she's got all these people and she tells them to leave and they all dissipate out the walls.
00:28:55
Corine
yeah This time they all came through the Wells Inn. They were all there. It was a lot.
00:29:02
Lee Hatfield
So you mentioned that you were...
00:29:02
Leanne Sallenback
but like that was pretty early oh sorry but and say that was early on too so like kareen like when we were at that it just made me realize like that was probably what 10 years ago now at least
00:29:05
Lee Hatfield
Okay, no, carry on. It's okay. Ladies first.
00:29:14
Leanne Sallenback
And it made me realize, yeah, okay, this is real.
00:29:14
Corine
Oh, at least.
00:29:16
Leanne Sallenback
Now I'm even more fascinated. Like the fact these things can happen, like let's keep going.
00:29:22
Lee Hatfield
It must be something, it must be really nice too, now that you you now know what you didn't know 10 years ago, that now if you get a really good investigation, that it's something you can get your teeth into.
00:29:33
Lee Hatfield
And the fact that you've got all three of you together with different abilities, you know that you can work together and yeah you can get the product done, so to speak.
00:29:44
Corine
I think it's also kind of fascinating too because you know I was talking i can't remember who to whom about it but it was like for so long in my own mind it was like you could either be a paranormal investigator or psychic in media like and I never for whatever reason until like you know after 2010, I'm like, why don't we merge those two? Wouldn't that make more sense? Like, i don't know why that didn't click for me.
00:30:10
Corine
And so going in now, the reason, like Leanne mentioned, I had all this gear before we even started the company was because it was almost, I'm like, if this equipment is paranormal tools are supposed to actually do what they do, then maybe it can help prove to me that what I'm seeing is actually there.
00:30:25
Corine
And so, you know, I'd buy the SLS camera, I'd get the Ovilus, I'd get every single piece of equipment, like the EVP record, everything. And when I had it all and it was validating what we had, was like, wow, like that's something. And so when we started going to like Virginia city and all these places, it was almost, again, it's that validation for us. And when we talk to clients or we go into places and, you know, we connect with whoever's had the experience and they're like blown away by what we've captured because it connects.
00:30:52
Corine
That's, I think the most real for me because, it's again, validating everything we've experienced and connecting, like you said, those dots of the puzzle to show kind of the bigger piece, right?
00:31:01
Lee Hatfield
Sure, yeah. Yeah.
00:31:03
Corine
So yeah, I think it's just, we've come a long way over the last 10, 15 years. And yeah, it's fun when the three of us are together, that's for sure.
00:31:11
Lee Hatfield
So do you find that it's if for whatever reason only two of you can go to an investigation, do you find that the scenario is different rather than when all three of you are together as as a team?
00:31:11
Leanne Sallenback
Thank
00:31:27
Corine
Oh yeah. Like, go ahead.
00:31:28
Lee Hatfield
Do you find
00:31:28
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, I say so.
00:31:29
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:31:30
Leanne Sallenback
And just the way like, unfortunately, right now, we're geographically spread out where we live a little bit. So it's, you know, it's getting a bit harder. So but when we have traditionally, yeah, like I'd say it's a bit different, like you're kind of missing one element of it, Yeah.
00:31:44
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, sure. it Yeah, because with regard to us, there's three of us and we're all guys. We've only got one Canadian. The other guy's got a ba Brazilian background and I'm obviously from England.
00:31:57
Lee Hatfield
But it's quite funny how ae I buy the the baseline observation stuff. So I've got the trifield, I've got the black mole detector, the radiation detector, the anonometer. So I buy all the...
00:32:10
Lee Hatfield
the the scientific stuff, so to speak, where my my colleague Logan just goes, oh, that looks nice and shiny. I'm going to buy one of those. And he'll just buy it because it looks cool. Whereas like, yeah, so we both kind of separate with what we buy.
00:32:21
Corine
Right.
00:32:24
Lee Hatfield
He's the guy that's got the degree in filming and audio. So he gets all the cameras and that kind of stuff. And like say, I get the technical stuff and we we always keep it apart.
00:32:35
Lee Hatfield
It's just, no, you're not allowed to buy technical stuff because that's mike that's me, that's me.
00:32:40
Corine
Nice.
00:32:40
Leanne Sallenback
Well, it sounds like a
00:32:46
Lee Hatfield
There's a radio show that's in your neck of the
Post-Investigation Routines
00:32:49
Lee Hatfield
woods, Spaced Out Radio, which yeah which actually going to be on a week on Wednesday.
00:32:51
Corine
Oh, yeah, Dave Scott, yeah.
00:32:52
Leanne Sallenback
good
00:32:57
Corine
Nice.
00:32:57
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah. Oh, cool. Nice.
00:32:58
Leanne Sallenback
Say hi to Dave for it.
00:32:58
Lee Hatfield
But think think yeah think about it, though.
00:33:02
Lee Hatfield
Time difference.
00:33:04
Corine
Yeah.
00:33:04
Lee Hatfield
It's midnight in Ottawa. it So it's like, it's a school night. Oh, my God. I'm going to have to do an interview at midnight.
00:33:12
Leanne Sallenback
Wow.
00:33:13
Lee Hatfield
So.
00:33:13
Corine
Well, he was on our Haunted Goldrush documentary, actually, so yeah, you should ask me about it.
00:33:17
Lee Hatfield
Oh. i Yeah, well, yeah, I'll but definitely bring that
00:33:20
Corine
That's where it's hard.
00:33:21
Lee Hatfield
Oh, right. I've got it. Oh, yes. so i remember that. Yeah. So going back to the investigations, when you've had such a, let's call it a stressful evening, so to speak, and you feel drained, how do you decompress afterwards?
00:33:38
Lee Hatfield
Does it involve alca alcohol or?
00:33:38
Corine
Excellent.
00:33:41
Corine
Yeah, know. I'm tired of that.
00:33:42
Leanne Sallenback
Thank you.
00:33:44
Corine
Awesome. For me, I know that
Investigation Approaches and Validation
00:33:48
Corine
it was Kelly that actually got us into it more and she and she made sense and she was always like, we leave it behind.
00:33:53
Lee Hatfield
going to go.
00:33:53
Corine
And so before we leave, we make all individually make a point of, you know, whatever's here stays here. You're not welcome to come with us. And I just personally, i need to, and it sounds weird, but when I'm connecting,
00:34:06
Corine
like my hands get really swollen and warm and hot and I like it's almost like i talk with my hands a lot too so I guess that's part of it but I always have to come home and like either have a shower wash my hands and just like decompress like I just have to have quiet time because it's just so much energy you have to process and unpack and I just need that quiet space afterwards to like focus on me again and ground myself
00:34:30
Leanne Sallenback
Well, and usually they're like crazy late nights.
00:34:30
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:34:32
Leanne Sallenback
So I have zero problems sleeping. That's actually also my superpower. So I can just go like right to bed.
00:34:41
Corine
That is true, you do pass.
00:34:41
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:34:43
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, I can just go right
00:34:44
Lee Hatfield
that This is your big sister now throwing you under the bus.
00:34:48
Leanne Sallenback
to bed.
00:34:49
Lee Hatfield
to Didn't think twice about doing that.
00:34:52
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah.
00:34:53
Lee Hatfield
So what about at the start of an investigation? Do you do you go in prepared? know you've got a history history of background, Corinne, but do you do your research or do you prefer to go in blind?
00:35:05
Corine
We go in blind. i We really don't want to know ahead of time. I know, what like and that's the thing, I have a history degree, I teach history, but in high school, you're teaching like, you know, the Renaissance, the medieval times way back in the day. So like it's not so much places that we're going to, especially here in Canada right now.
00:35:23
Corine
I just prefer not to know, because then whatever we go in getting, it's like a fresh slate for us, and we can actually see if we can validate it. If we go in knowing it also kind of like creates a bias because you go in like, is it a little boy? Is it what they said?
00:35:36
Corine
So like we would even like, we try not to hear too much even from witnesses beforehand. We like to meet with them kind of afterwards and say like, what did you experience because this is what we got and does it correlate?
00:35:42
Lee Hatfield
Right.
00:35:46
Corine
You know, oftentimes, you know, some things like you know, you're going to like this house here, but like, we don't do the research now.
00:35:52
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. And if you go into somewhere, sorry, go on.
00:35:53
Leanne Sallenback
Yes. I was just saying sometimes the format is different, like where we're told to do the research because we won't have a witness with us, we won't have access to information.
00:35:55
Lee Hatfield
Sorry, Liam.
00:36:02
Corine
Yeah.
00:36:05
Leanne Sallenback
So we go in trying to like, it's super rare, but like we have done that too. But I think we prefer going in blind. And then it's more exciting when things like are revealed.
00:36:11
Corine
Yeah.
00:36:15
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, because it's a little bit different with like going to the Alamo or going to Salem where there's a lot of history that's already out there.
00:36:23
Corine
Mm-hmm.
00:36:24
Lee Hatfield
yeah it If you don't know anything about those two places, you've probably been on another planet for the last like 100 years or whatever. So, yeah you yeah, that must be very difficult compared to fresh locations because I prefer to to do my research.
00:36:32
Corine
Right.
00:36:33
Leanne Sallenback
Thank you.
00:36:42
Lee Hatfield
But I don't have any abilities of what I know of. So if I can communicate with somebody and I've got the name of John or yeah whatever, I know then that if we get a positive like EVP,
00:36:59
Lee Hatfield
and we come through as a John, and I've got a second name, or I've got a time period, we that kind of concretes the evidence for me. So that's the way that I actually go about doing it. but that's yeah But I know that everybody's completely different.
00:37:13
Corine
Well, I know even when we were filming History's Most Haunted, remember in, I think it was New Orleans, we were in the Bed and Brack, the most haunted B&B in America, and we didn't want to know anything going in And so we talked to the owner briefly at the beginning, but then, you know, I remember walking in and automatically I'm like, well, here I go. i have a reading. Apparently I was doing what I do, you know, biting and tapping and here we go.
00:37:37
Corine
So I did my reading, but then
00:37:37
Leanne Sallenback
All right.
00:37:39
Corine
as soon as that ended, it was like, okay, there's something else in the house. And i remember, I think it was you, Leanne. We didn't know anything about it. And you finally, there was on the landing, the, you were asking, you set up a REM pod, you had the Ovilus and you were asking if anyone was there.
00:37:54
Corine
And on command, it said, i was it John? i think it was. And then the REM pod was going off. And were like, Can you do that? Like, if that is you, John, can you step and turn that on again? And on command, it was happening. And we were hearing footsteps and we're like, well, who is this John guy?
00:38:10
Corine
So it wasn't until we debriefed with the owner later that she's like, oh, well, that was the oldest son of the original family that died in the room that you guys were standing on the second floor where happened. We're like what?
00:38:20
Corine
Like, so to me, yeah.
00:38:21
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, those are the cool moments, yeah. Okay.
00:38:24
Corine
So those kinds of moments, it's like, yeah, we don't want to know if we we don't have to.
00:38:28
Corine
Yeah.
00:38:28
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, yeah, because like if we get new people coming with us, I always kind of tell them that if you're going to use the Ovilus or if you're going to use any other spirit box, whatever, you the words that come out have to relate to the investigation that you're on.
00:38:43
Lee Hatfield
You just can't come out with random words and go, oh, I just got beefcake
Personal Growth and Collaboration
00:38:47
Lee Hatfield
and it's completely irrelevant to the investigation.
00:38:50
Corine
Exactly.
00:38:52
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. So before we go into what's happening in the next couple of years, because you've got some exciting stuff coming along, I've got one kind of final question for you.
00:38:52
Leanne Sallenback
Thank you.
00:39:01
Lee Hatfield
So knowing that all three of you have got exceptional talents, and I'm extremely jealous, so let's not go there. What would you say is the biggest thing that you've learned from that and from each other?
00:39:16
Lee Hatfield
God's sake, that's a really good question.
00:39:19
Corine
It is though.
00:39:23
Corine
Mm-hmm.
00:39:24
Leanne Sallenback
I i'd like for me over the last 10, whatever plus years, like it's just been trusting myself and like just leaning into knowing that this is like whatever I'm sensing, feeling it's legit and it's happening to me.
00:39:25
Lee Hatfield
and so...
00:39:40
Leanne Sallenback
And then having the validation from the team is pretty powerful. Like that's like just having that loop, like it's like instant feedback, you know? So like, that's something for me, I guess I would say.
00:39:53
Corine
And to piggyback kind of on that too, i think for the first time ever, I know we talk about being our earth our own authentic selves.
00:40:04
Corine
And I think this is the first time that I do feel like I can be especially having Leanne and Kelly when we're investigating, I like, I've learned so much from both of them while we're there. Cause like, and when I'm getting something, I was always so used to internalizing and processing it myself and not sharing.
00:40:22
Corine
And now they're like, hello, what's happening? Tell us what you, oh, right.
00:40:25
Leanne Sallenback
What is happening?
00:40:25
Corine
So now I'm like, yeah, they're like, oh yeah. So now I'm like, great.
00:40:29
Lee Hatfield
which
00:40:29
Corine
can tell you. like, it's been a process for sure over the last 15 years of, you know, now I can trust them and, you know, I share more and I trust in it and I, I can be my true authentic.
00:40:41
Corine
Yeah.
00:40:41
Lee Hatfield
And that's it.
00:40:42
Lee Hatfield
yeah Because there's three of you, you've got your own you know i abilities, but you're a solid core and each one can trust the other. And that's I think that's one of the most important things that yeah teamwork at the end of the day, you're working together, you're not working independently from each other.
00:40:59
Corine
yeah And if someone's like, we've, we've all said and any investigation, and there's been some times where we've questioned whether we should pull something, but you know, if we're having, if one of us is having an experience that we don't think is safe or it's going too far or we're pushing it a little too much where we're not sure what could happen next, we, it's unanimous. If one person wants out, we're out. Like it's just no questions asked. We just know.
00:41:21
Corine
And I think that's also a huge relief
Future Projects and Collaborations
00:41:24
Corine
knowing that you they have your back in any situation. so
00:41:27
Lee Hatfield
Apart from when you leave a building and you send your little sister in to get the equipment.
00:41:30
Corine
Yeah, except that one time.
00:41:32
Lee Hatfield
but
00:41:33
Leanne Sallenback
Or a part when you're in like a submarine mine and we say, and you should stay here.
00:41:33
Corine
oh
00:41:38
Lee Hatfield
so
00:41:39
Corine
yeah oh yeah, then you leave me alone down under the mine while you guys go get gear.
00:41:43
Lee Hatfield
So, yeah, you've got to you've got trust with a certain amount of throwing each other under the bus.
00:41:44
Leanne Sallenback
mr
00:41:49
Corine
Right. That's just really love.
00:41:50
Lee Hatfield
but Yeah. but Yeah. Okay. So we've got some exciting things happening in the next couple of years. Corinne, you just started your your personal readings.
00:42:02
Lee Hatfield
How's that going?
00:42:04
Corine
It's going pretty good. It's not so much readings right now. We're just doing spiritual chats to kind of, people have a lot of, they have a lot of things they just want to talk about. So that's been great. And we are also announcing, like you said, we're doing the Secret Ireland Tours in May, 2026.
00:42:20
Corine
So I have, I think there's 25 spots available and i've hand selected with May, the owner. We've picked some cool itinerary spots where we think I'll be able to elaborate on more later.
00:42:31
Corine
But it'll be super fun to so travel with people who want to go and explore all these cool places.
00:42:36
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:42:37
Corine
So we've got that coming up. And then we also have another special. I'll turn over to Leanne for that one.
00:42:42
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, so we're actually pretty quick here.
00:42:43
Lee Hatfield
She's good.
00:42:44
Leanne Sallenback
and We're heading to Ireland to film a Halloween special that will be released this year on T&E.
00:42:44
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:42:50
Leanne Sallenback
So we're working with Small Army Entertainment on that. So we're all just packing our bags here and getting ready to go. And then we're also heading to Thunder Bay Paracon this October.
00:42:58
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. hot
00:43:02
Leanne Sallenback
So that's the Canadian Paracon.
00:43:03
Lee Hatfield
Oh, cool.
00:43:05
Leanne Sallenback
So we'll be speaking there and doing some stuff. Yeah. And yeah, I think we're just filling up our calendar this year with some paranormal events.
00:43:12
Lee Hatfield
Well, and i'm we have we have Comic Cons over here in Montreal, Ottawa and Winnipeg. And I'm going to do some some elbowing of the powers that be to see if we can bring you over.
00:43:26
Corine
Amazing.
00:43:28
Lee Hatfield
can't can't guarantee guarantee anything, but I'm going to like twist a few arms and and to see. yeah Number one, yeah it it'll be different for you guys because we've actually got a table there.
00:43:39
Lee Hatfield
So if we could get you at the same location where we are, you've got two different aspects. So I'm not going to promise anything, but I'm going to start twisting through a few arms to see if we can actually bring you to Ontario and to come and join us at a Comic-Con convention.
00:43:55
Corine
That'd be super fun.
00:43:56
Lee Hatfield
Could that be cool?
00:43:57
Leanne Sallenback
Cool. Thanks, Lee.
00:43:58
Corine
We can share more of our Montreal stories while we're back there with you.
00:43:58
Leanne Sallenback
That sounds fun.
00:44:00
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:44:04
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:44:05
Leanne Sallenback
Now Montreal is wild.
00:44:05
Lee Hatfield
So...
00:44:07
Corine
Yeah.
00:44:07
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, so Leanne, when you get a quiet moment, can you tell Corinne not to do an Irish accent because it's not very good?
00:44:13
Corine
Yeah, I know. Yeah, I'm not it.
00:44:16
Lee Hatfield
Okay, ladies.
00:44:18
Leanne Sallenback
I don't need a quiet moment for that.
00:44:18
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, yeah.
00:44:19
Leanne Sallenback
I'll just like post it on social media. Yeah.
00:44:22
Lee Hatfield
Okay, I double dare you. but Okay, well, unfortunately, i could talk to you guys all night, but our time has come to an end. So I thank you both for taking the time on a Sunday afternoon.
00:44:36
Lee Hatfield
And it's been an absolute pleasure. And I hope to see you in Ireland next year.
00:44:42
Corine
That would be amazing.
00:44:42
Lee Hatfield
just
00:44:43
Corine
Can't wait.
00:44:43
Lee Hatfield
like I'll just nudge the wife again. She's nodding. Oh, i've got I've got the thumbs up. So, yeah.
00:44:48
Corine
oh Yeah.
00:44:49
Leanne Sallenback
Look at green light.
00:44:50
Lee Hatfield
So, Leanne, are you coming to Ireland next year or just just come in?
00:44:56
Leanne Sallenback
Right now it's just cream.
00:44:59
Corine
Sorry.
00:44:59
Lee Hatfield
cool Come on, come on, come on. You've to get this. Okay, ladies, it's been an absolute...
00:45:04
Leanne Sallenback
You never never know what could happen. Yeah.
00:45:06
Corine
Yeah.
00:45:06
Lee Hatfield
this is Yeah, still time, right?
00:45:08
Lee Hatfield
You can book one of the available seats.
00:45:08
Corine
Exactly.
00:45:10
Leanne Sallenback
yeah but
00:45:11
Corine
Oh, we'll talk.
00:45:11
Lee Hatfield
Okay, yeah. Okay, it's been an absolute pleasure. And I hope to talk to you guys very soon.
00:45:18
Corine
Thanks so much.
00:45:18
Lee Hatfield
Thanks very much. Thank you. Take care.
00:45:20
Leanne Sallenback
Thanks having me.
00:45:20
Lee Hatfield
Bye-bye.
00:45:21
Corine
Bye.