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Ubiquitous rabbit stew (Emmerdale 13th April - 1st May 2026)
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This time we're reviewing a whole three weeks of Emmerdale, and things have certainly been happening in the village! We discuss how Mike Parr and Shebz Miah continue to uphold the whole programme, Lydia is relentlessly making rabbit stew and/or crocheting herself senseless, and, for some reason, include a deep dive on anaemia and haemochromotosis. Enjoy!
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Transcript
Introduction and Return from Hiatus
00:00:00
lizzie
Hello and welcome to Dingle All The Way. I'm Lizzie and we're excited to be back on the air.
00:00:05
simonthomas
I'm Simon.
00:00:09
lizzie
We're not really on the air, are we? We are.
00:00:11
simonthomas
We're live on Ding Sorry about that, guys.
00:00:11
lizzie
worry We're excited to be live in our own special way, which means pre-recorded, um because due to my diary, really, we haven't recorded in three weeks.
Emmerdale's Recent Episodes: A Fresh Take
00:00:24
simonthomas
We had unannounced absence. Well, so there's quite a lot going on in fact.
00:00:27
lizzie
Yeah, I know. It's actually been high drama. I think Simon and I have both been feeling like, wow, we're really enjoying Emmerdale again. And it's so nice to be like, wow, this is back on form.
00:00:37
simonthomas
Yeah. And I realized watching today's episode that part of what I was enjoying was that Graham wasn't there. And because when he came back, I was like, oh, that's hard to take.
00:00:44
lizzie
not kidding.
00:00:45
simonthomas
But yeah, I mean, it has been, we've had some new stories. It hasn't just been the same stories going on forever.
Personal Encounters and Speculations
00:00:52
simonthomas
We've had some good comedies and good actions, for good twists and turns, turns and twists.
00:00:56
lizzie
turns and indeed twists and something quite exciting happened to me the day before yesterday which I decided to save until um we were recording for a live response from you I've definitely pepped this up too much and you are not going to care um but I was driving down one of the parallel roads to mine recently and I saw the guy who plays Noah
00:01:05
simonthomas
my gosh. Oh my gosh.
00:01:16
simonthomas
I do care. That's fun.
00:01:19
lizzie
I know i do feel bad that I can't remember his name what's the actor's name
00:01:22
simonthomas
the smallest idea.
00:01:24
lizzie
and I'll just do a quick Google in case, you know, people want to find out.
00:01:27
simonthomas
Gosh, we need to, so seen, you've seen you've seen Joe, you've seen sorry, Noah. you've seen mos no sir noah
00:01:35
lizzie
Jack Downham. I've
Dramatic Childbirth Scenarios in Emmerdale
00:01:37
lizzie
seen Jack Downham.
00:01:37
simonthomas
Jack Down, I've never heard that name before in life but um you're just beset by them I think you do need to like screech to the side and be like could you record a work on Tridingle on the way?
00:01:47
lizzie
i Yeah, it is tempting. I guess... some I was on my way somewhere, but next time maybe I will screech to a halt in a way that doesn't seem terrifying.
00:01:53
simonthomas
time yeah ah I mean he might not even remember he's in it he doesn't seem to do very much nowadays yeah
00:02:03
lizzie
He may have forgotten, but it was quite exciting for me. i was in a car with my friend who simply didn't care.
00:02:07
simonthomas
what's exciting for smooth her tu and indeed ah What's exciting for me is Lizzie, the day came, the the day long foretold, Charity had her baby.
00:02:09
lizzie
Hmm.
00:02:23
lizzie
I know. And we have been waiting for this for about three years, I think.
00:02:28
simonthomas
the world's longest pregnancy, and I think it did come in about eight and a half months or something, but it felt eternal.
00:02:30
lizzie
Truly.
00:02:35
lizzie
It really did. And I really enjoyed the kind of setup for how it happened with them not being able to get to the hospital and like not being able to tell you anyone it was happening in that, like, they really did make it obvious that nobody had their phones with them.
00:02:48
simonthomas
yes yeah yeah it's like great okay thanks for announcing this check-offs phone charger uh yeah and of course if nothing is simple for charity goes into labor in a broken down lift with with her husband and with the father of her baby
00:02:49
lizzie
It's like, well, my phone is charging behind the bar. Yeah.
00:02:56
lizzie
Thanks for announcing.
00:03:07
lizzie
Of course.
00:03:12
lizzie
Yep. And nobody who thinks the baby is theirs is present or indeed any medical professionals. So that was fun. um it was like, so yeah, that's true.
00:03:19
simonthomas
i guess ross I guess Ross knows the baby is his but yes no yeah yeah
00:03:24
lizzie
um yeah it was so classic soap wasn't it and I did enjoy the kind of nod to that when the others were all in the pub and they were like well I gave birth in this situation like well I had to give birth when I was in prison and I had to give birth like I love all these characters being like is it is it at all weird that these things happen to all of us
00:03:38
simonthomas
that was so fun as has anyone given birth in a normal sort of way not once
00:03:45
lizzie
surely not not once
00:03:47
simonthomas
Yeah, um I enjoyed that.
Unique Baby Shower and Relationship Dynamics
00:03:51
simonthomas
ah i think my favorite small moment for this was when Charity was like groaning or something. Then Ross goes, what? And Charity says, what do you mean what?
00:03:59
simonthomas
It's like very clearly having contractions.
00:04:02
lizzie
I think we know.
00:04:05
simonthomas
ah This happens all amid the world's most depressing baby shower. Yeah. it's
00:04:13
lizzie
Yeah, like what was going on there?
00:04:14
simonthomas
yeah
00:04:15
lizzie
Is there normally karaoke at a baby shower?
00:04:18
simonthomas
Is there normally karaoke that is entirely like songs that have the word baby in it? Like, we've got a bit a sunny engine.
00:04:24
lizzie
Yeah.
00:04:25
simonthomas
Yeah, I got you, babe. and Would you normally have Jimmy at your baby shower? These are all good questions.
00:04:31
lizzie
There were a lot of very random people there. And look, I'm obsessed with Cammie and Belle as a couple. But do we really think after one date it would be, obviously you should come to our family baby shower.
00:04:37
simonthomas
Of course.
00:04:43
lizzie
One date.
00:04:46
simonthomas
Yeah, and it did seem to be a baby shower that was arranged in the middle of the working day that everyone was able to attend.
00:04:52
lizzie
Look, that's just what happens in Emmerdale. Nobody ever sticks to their working hours.
00:04:55
simonthomas
ah
00:04:57
lizzie
And you know that.
00:04:57
simonthomas
yeah Yeah, everyone except for the father of the baby, I should say, of course.
00:05:02
lizzie
Yeah.
00:05:02
simonthomas
Which I suppose often fathers of the baby aren't at baby showers. They often are female adults.
00:05:06
lizzie
Yeah, I think baby showers are just female only, so it was quite unusual that anyone was there, but especially Liam.
00:05:12
simonthomas
I like they made some sort of nod to the fact that Sarah and Jacob were in their twenty s and might have actual friends by having like a cluster of extras were about Sarah's age just in the background, but she didn't seem to interact with them in any way.
00:05:25
lizzie
Well, she never has before.
00:05:26
simonthomas
Where would she have encountered them?
00:05:28
lizzie
Yeah.
00:05:28
simonthomas
She's never she's never she's never left the village. he did it
00:05:32
lizzie
She's never not pumping breast milk, it would seem.
00:05:34
simonthomas
it What are they doing with that two-week-old breast milk before the baby was born? i assume tossing it, or they're freezing it. I don't know what's going on.
00:05:43
lizzie
going to say it's probably on ice.
00:05:45
simonthomas
On ice, on the rocks.
00:05:47
lizzie
Oh, milk on the rocks.
Charity's Dramatic Aftermath and Relationship Evolutions
00:05:50
lizzie
Yeah.
00:05:51
simonthomas
um ah Yeah, of course, first of all, they break down on the way there in the middle of nowhere, which is also the road that everyone else breaks down on and the road that we have been down.
00:05:59
lizzie
yeah
00:06:00
simonthomas
say
00:06:00
lizzie
And the road there where Aaron and Robert have had many liaisons, also John and, yeah, plenty of proposals.
00:06:04
simonthomas
More than one proposal, Yeah,
00:06:08
lizzie
Like, they could have found the way.
00:06:12
simonthomas
yeah if you look around slightly to the left, there are I believe the farm, the band, we'll see those.
00:06:18
lizzie
yeah They were basically as lost as Bear was, i.e. on their own doorstep but unable to identify it.
00:06:23
simonthomas
but yes yeah had to have to glance out of the window or through the sackcloth that was obscuring the wall you'd have noted your own home and relatives um
00:06:31
lizzie
yeah
00:06:38
simonthomas
um mac was in a costume of a baby another thing that you don't often see here at a baby shower i think although someone's like oh i'm sorry this is really insensitive it's the day after your son's birthday like okay i guess but
00:06:48
lizzie
yet ah i like it would have maybe made more sense to me if Mac had remembered as in like yeah it would be insensitive if Mac seemed to take any interest in his child but doesn't seem to care
00:07:00
simonthomas
No, just in Fitz and in Inverse. Fitz and Bursts, yeah.
00:07:04
lizzie
some bursts are we saying that
00:07:06
simonthomas
Yeah, that's a great expression. um I did like a nod to the fact that Mac didn't love being trapped in small places because of the bunker, which people like in general have been, particularly Ross, but also more broadly, quite unsympathetic to the fact that he was held in a bunker for weeks, not that long ago.
00:07:23
lizzie
Yeah, nobody cares, including, I think, Charity. Like, as soon as he was out of the bunker, she was just like, cool, the bunker never happened.
00:07:27
simonthomas
yeah
00:07:30
lizzie
And then he had to really spell it out to them.
00:07:30
simonthomas
Yeah.
00:07:32
lizzie
He was like, I'm feeling quite claustrophobic. And then almost immediately, everyone was being back to being like, Mac, why are you being so rubbish? You're not helping with this birth at all. And it's like he just told you he's got like PTSD.
00:07:43
simonthomas
yeah Yeah.
00:07:45
lizzie
Can we not? And then after the baby was born, he was saying Charity, like, sorry, I was so useless. And she was basically a bit like, yeah, you were.
00:07:52
simonthomas
You were trash, actually. Yeah. Whereas Ross stepped up, um she had obviously had catastrophic bleeding that we couldn't see this time slot. So I don't think we saw any of that, which I'm grateful.
00:08:05
lizzie
A nod to the bleed.
00:08:05
simonthomas
um And now to the bleed. um lady gaga's latest this album and i did i did uh think just actually stunning work all around from this year particularly as always michael power bringing the emotion when we didn't expect it a real kick in the in the uh let's say kidneys when he um when he handed over baby layla to jacob and sarah and just the look on his face and i mean in the in that room you might look at him and think why are you looking this sad he's not hiding it but
00:08:31
lizzie
and know.
00:08:39
simonthomas
But yeah, it's beautiful.
00:08:40
lizzie
Yeah, I think Michael Parr has been my standout for the last few weeks.
00:08:41
simonthomas
Very moving.
00:08:44
simonthomas
Yeah.
00:08:45
lizzie
He's been incredible. He's really doing this, like, he's trying to be all macho about it and being like, i don't want be part of this baby's life. It's so fine. But you can tell he's feeling things and he doesn't know what to do with it.
00:08:55
simonthomas
He's feeling things.
00:08:57
lizzie
I think, yeah. Well done, Mike Parr. We love you.
00:09:02
simonthomas
We love
00:09:02
lizzie
You're incredible. You're a ray of light. He's still also bringing a lot of humor with, like, funny nicknames people.
00:09:07
simonthomas
Yes.
00:09:08
lizzie
He's doing it all.
00:09:09
simonthomas
He's got the whole show on his shoulders. What Cammy is not holding up, he is holding up. The two of them between them are saving the show.
00:09:16
lizzie
yeah
00:09:18
simonthomas
I also thought Joe Warren Plant did amazing job when he first met the baby. And then when he was talking to Kerry about like, how is that he said, it's the happiest day of my life and looks so sad. And she was like, sometimes those are the hardest days.
00:09:33
simonthomas
So beautifully done. And um look, there's there's no real reason that Kerry and Joe pretend they're family to each other because it's so complicated, but it works. It works.
00:09:43
lizzie
But it is lovely. He needs a mother figure somewhere. And we all know that Dr. Todd is not doing that.
00:09:49
simonthomas
knew, nor indeed is the woman he grew up with and called mum, but you know, that's, she's just not around for this.
00:09:54
lizzie
Yeah.
00:09:56
lizzie
Yeah, true.
00:09:56
simonthomas
I wonder if anyone's texting her like, Alicia, you've got like a grand a granddaughter now.
00:10:00
simonthomas
She's like, okay, bye
00:10:01
lizzie
Send her a quick Skype in invite or something.
00:10:05
simonthomas
The last time she caught sight of her child was when Skype was all the rage. And they called her Layla, and you know I love Layla.
00:10:12
lizzie
I know. I miss Layla every day.
00:10:16
simonthomas
Yeah, she'd have been so
00:10:16
lizzie
Probably more than Jacob.
00:10:18
simonthomas
Oh my gosh, can imagine her on the phone to charity while she was in labour? would have been hilarious. would have been so good.
00:10:23
lizzie
It would have been so good. I know Bring back Roxy Shadihi, War Woman.
00:10:27
simonthomas
Yeah, we can we can find a way. we can find a way. She
00:10:31
lizzie
If Graham can come back from the dead, surely Layla can come back from the dead.
00:10:34
simonthomas
lay really still under the ice for quite a while, and then she came back.
00:10:37
lizzie
Yeah, exactly. She's learned a lot of skills.
00:10:39
simonthomas
Except she didn't go through. it Yeah. I mean, she does yoga. She can lie still in any number of contortions. so
00:10:47
lizzie
That's her thing. Yeah, so true.
00:10:48
simonthomas
That's literally what she's paid to do professionally. say yeah ah So, yeah, um I did like that Sarah acknowledged what nightmare she'd been throughout the whole thing to charity.
00:10:52
lizzie
She's just been in child's pose since then.
00:11:02
simonthomas
She was like, yeah, you were you were the worst.
00:11:02
lizzie
That was refreshing.
00:11:03
simonthomas
yeah
00:11:04
lizzie
Yeah, and Charity was just but like, yeah, like I've never been so pumped full of vitamins. like It's nice that that's over.
Graham's Mysterious Role and Storyline Speculations
00:11:10
lizzie
It's nice for us that it's over.
00:11:12
simonthomas
Isn't it? And, um, ah Charity's probably only got one or two more pregnancies left in her, so it's... Yeah, bless them. Mac is going to be godfather, apparently, say that's nice, in a way.
00:11:24
lizzie
That is sweet in a way until it comes out that it's not, you know, the surrogate child and the charity cheated on him to create it.
00:11:27
simonthomas
if
00:11:35
simonthomas
Yeah, I do think they sort of painted themselves into a corner of this storyline because it's going to destroy so many people and like, you so many marriages and like, who's going to, who's going to enjoy the baby?
00:11:41
lizzie
Yeah. And so many marriages.
00:11:47
simonthomas
Are they going to end up with some like weird, like pentagonal parenting where they just all pretend that they're the parents?
00:11:54
lizzie
I truly have no idea where they're going to go with it. um Something I do think will inevitably happen is what happens. It would seem with every storyline that the writers don't quite know how to draw it together is that Graham will just go off and like find something or do something and bring it back and everything will be okay.
00:12:13
simonthomas
Yeah, found another baby. this one.
00:12:14
lizzie
Yeah. Graham will do something mysterious off screen and the plot line will be solved.
00:12:20
simonthomas
ah Yeah, yeah that maybe that is his purpose. Like, to use maximum, don't you say that? um Yeah, just like solving all the problems off screen in a way that doesn't make sense if you think about it too hard.
00:12:33
lizzie
Yeah, he just brings together storylines that have hit a dead end and it's all fine.
00:12:34
simonthomas
We need that.
00:12:40
simonthomas
Because, yeah, I mean, I don't even know what I want to have a long time because I don't want Jacob and Sarah to have to give what give this baby, but I also can't stand Ross looking sad all the time.
00:12:49
lizzie
Yeah, I mean, i wouldn't be surprised if Ross just sort of moved in with them because that does seem to be the thing that happens in Emmerdale. Shared parenting.
00:12:59
simonthomas
Yeah, where do they live do they live? Do they live above the shop?
00:13:05
lizzie
Oh, don't they live with Eric?
00:13:06
simonthomas
Do they? don't know.
00:13:09
lizzie
Is that above the shop? I don't think it is. I think they live with Eric, maybe.
00:13:11
simonthomas
No, maybe they do. h Or do they live with charity? don't know.
00:13:20
lizzie
have literally no idea. Also, such
00:13:21
simonthomas
Someone one lives above the shop, but maybe it's empty at the moment.
00:13:24
lizzie
such a weird one that like under a year ago, Cammy was sleeping with Sarah and then he's at her baby shower.
00:13:34
simonthomas
That's true. Maybe the baby's his. Twist.
00:13:37
lizzie
ah
00:13:38
simonthomas
Twist. uh yeah is it he he seems to have forgotten all of that so that's fine
00:13:46
lizzie
Yeah, it's a lot.
Exploration of Workplace Bullying Storyline
00:13:49
simonthomas
um oh yeah another sort of i'm just looking at my notes another moment i enjoyed was when they were like mentioned how ross helped charity go first and jacob was just like ross it's like why is ross here it's like you know it's great it's great thing great point yeah
00:14:01
lizzie
Yeah, like why is Ross there? but and And to his credit, he didn't want to be there and he did put up quite a bit of a fight. So, you know, he was trying not to be involved.
00:14:10
simonthomas
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that was more convincing than some of the like, oh gosh, we're all here for it together moments that we have.
00:14:16
lizzie
Yeah,
00:14:17
simonthomas
um Something else I noted down, when Jacob had that lovely hug with Carrie, there was a huge sign behind saying, can you claim free prescriptions? Which did sort of take me out of the moment slightly.
00:14:26
lizzie
but
00:14:28
simonthomas
Yeah.
00:14:30
lizzie
yeah quite true to life, I suppose, of the sort of thing that happens in a hospital. But yeah, you wonder whether they put those things up as like a, is that what the NHS hopes that Airmodel viewers will be taking on board in the back of their minds?
00:14:42
simonthomas
Maybe a SponCon, yeah.
00:14:43
lizzie
So yeah, exactly.
00:14:45
simonthomas
They've been sponsored so much by, like, Yorkshire Water filling up water bottles, they're now like, what else can we give you all for free?
00:14:51
lizzie
Yeah, I'm still just desperate for Yorkshire Water to round off the slurry thing.
00:14:58
simonthomas
Finally, please.
00:14:58
lizzie
Like, why can't Mac be exonerated for that?
00:15:02
simonthomas
Maybe when he notably leaves after all of this fallout, it'll be like a parting shot. I thought the rumours were that he was going to leave, like, a year ago, but clearly he's not gone.
00:15:11
lizzie
There's always rumors that people gonna leave. That's why I never believe them.
00:15:15
simonthomas
yeah fa and they're not going wax man are they they they love wax women women and womenly gay men oh ah dear um so yeah i when when do you think the the fallout will come do you think soon or you think it's going be dragged out
00:15:19
lizzie
I know, it's not fair. Women and gay men
00:15:35
lizzie
I guess it depends what Dr. Todd does with the information that she now knows, because i wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up that Jacob is like, no, I actually really do want to complain about you.
00:15:41
simonthomas
of course so she knows yes
00:15:48
lizzie
And so in revenge, she's like, that's not your child, you know.
00:15:53
simonthomas
Yeah, interesting. like I assume all the stuff they said about blood types is true.
00:15:58
lizzie
Yeah, I would have thought so.
00:15:58
simonthomas
I'm just going to take on faith. So it does suggest that medical doctor, student, whatever he is, Jacob, has not looked at his daughter's medical file in any way. Because surely he would also know about this.
00:16:09
simonthomas
about this
00:16:09
lizzie
Yeah, I guess he hasn't been working since, so he maybe wouldn't have access to the medical files unless he's, like, at the hospital working, but
00:16:15
simonthomas
Maybe...
00:16:19
simonthomas
they don't know how it works.
00:16:22
lizzie
I don't know i i haven't had a child, i suppose, and neither of you.
00:16:28
simonthomas
not No, so it's not. and I've never looked at the medical records of a child. um
00:16:33
lizzie
think that's a good thing.
00:16:34
simonthomas
And that's my alibi, if anyone's looking into that. name
00:16:39
lizzie
If anyone's sort trying to do an enhanced DBS on you.
00:16:43
simonthomas
i Don't worry, I've got one of them that renews every year. as long as i yeah
00:16:47
lizzie
Same. It's so liberating being on the update service, isn't it?
00:16:51
simonthomas
Oh, I know, it took me years to get on it. I'm so glad I finally did, because I hate filling out forms.
00:16:56
lizzie
It is the bane of my life. I think i had to find a DBS check in my filing system and I counted.
00:16:57
simonthomas
know
00:17:01
lizzie
and I've got 13.
00:17:04
simonthomas
i did The only reason I have one is because I do stewarding at church and sometimes youth... members do that, because obviously i don't otherwise go near children, because I don't want to. But um I did consider quitting that role just so I didn't have to fill out the form. But I did in the end fill out the form.
00:17:17
lizzie
Whereas I tend to end up running a kids camp approximately six times a year and every single organisation I volunteer with needs a different DBS. But no longer. I'm on the update service. This is the most boring thing we've ever talked about.
00:17:31
simonthomas
It's important stuff. Can you imagine it didn anyone Emmerdale who would pass a DBS check?
00:17:37
lizzie
um probably just Lydia.
00:17:40
simonthomas
Lidia, although she's probably been to prison, hasn't she? They normally have all been...
00:17:43
lizzie
Yeah, true.
00:17:45
simonthomas
Do you fail a DBS jack if you've been to prison?
00:17:45
lizzie
Gosh.
00:17:47
simonthomas
or
00:17:47
lizzie
No, I think it just comes up as like, like and if you haven't done anything, then your DBS check comes back with nothing on it.
00:17:48
simonthomas
me
00:17:54
lizzie
But the other I think it's just literally like, hey, there's all the stuff that you've done just to be aware of.
00:18:01
simonthomas
Just like an advisory on an MOT.
00:18:01
lizzie
And then it's up to the organisation to read it and be like, yeah, do we care about your advisories or not?
00:18:04
simonthomas
You know? Yeah. And if it's anything like an MOT, I don't care.
00:18:09
lizzie
Yeah, you're still roadworthy.
00:18:09
simonthomas
hey don't even glance at them. Yeah. um So, yes, I say Mac is going to be godfather. And it made me think, who would you ask to be godfather of a hypothetical child from within the Ammerdale cast?
00:18:22
lizzie
Oh, I think
00:18:23
simonthomas
Or characters, not cast.
00:18:28
lizzie
Cammie, because I love him.
00:18:29
simonthomas
Cammy... Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:32
lizzie
And because I think he would bring sort of like fun uncle energy, but that he would actually still be responsible at the end of the day.
00:18:41
simonthomas
Let's sketch out.
00:18:42
lizzie
Like, I think he would.
00:18:42
simonthomas
Yeah.
00:18:43
lizzie
example bring a child to like a bare knuckle fight like he did um but that he would like be fun and be playful and like be cute with kids
Emmerdale Characters as Godparents: Speculations
00:18:55
simonthomas
Yeah. mean, obviously, partly I'd love it to be someone who is a Christian if he's a godfather, but they're few and far between. and I don't want Charles or Claudette to be a godparent to my child.
00:19:03
lizzie
yeah you yeah you do want them to be praying for the child but who would that be to be fair laurel
00:19:04
simonthomas
but But...
00:19:10
simonthomas
Laurel is sometimes a Christian. So she she'd be on my list.
00:19:14
lizzie
She dips in and out.
00:19:15
simonthomas
She dips in and out, ah much like a baptism. um And I think that i ah my thought was, um I've now forgotten who I was going to do.
00:19:26
simonthomas
Carrie. I thought Carrie, because she is chaotic, but she's also like very maternal and caring.
00:19:27
lizzie
oh Aww.
00:19:31
simonthomas
And yeah, she'd definitely have your back in ah in any situation, right or wrong.
00:19:36
lizzie
Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right. And maybe that's why people ask me to be godmother to their children. They're like, Chaotic, but caring.
00:19:45
simonthomas
She's scrappy.
00:19:47
lizzie
She's scrappy, but she'd have your back in a fight.
00:19:50
simonthomas
And of course, famously, I've got six godchildren. um and that's because of my fighting prowess, I assume.
00:19:52
lizzie
Yeah. Chaos. ah
00:20:01
lizzie
but a
00:20:01
simonthomas
Gosh, we've got a lot to get through, so maybe we should keep going. um What do you want to talk about next?
00:20:06
lizzie
Why don't we talk about Dawn and Jo and everything that's going on there?
00:20:09
simonthomas
Don and Joe. um I'd like to say well done to us for predicting that they would have a wedding, but they wouldn't get married because I can see it's going towards she's brought the wedding forward and she's clearly going to like dump him at the altar.
00:20:21
lizzie
Yeah, why? oh is she going to be like, I'm not going to marry you because you're a horrible man in front of everybody?
00:20:30
simonthomas
That's my thinking.
00:20:31
lizzie
Wow.
00:20:31
simonthomas
That's my thinking. i like Why else would you bring it forward?
00:20:34
lizzie
Yeah, well that was, I literally wrote in my notes, why does she want to bring the wedding closer? But that does make sense. Yeah.
00:20:40
simonthomas
yeah Or she wants to get half of everything he owns when she instantly divorces him. but
00:20:45
lizzie
That was something I was wondering about. Maybe it's that because she does have to care for the child.
00:20:52
simonthomas
That's true, because I thought at first that she was lying about the child, but it does seem like she genuinely is pregnant.
00:20:56
lizzie
I think it's real and I cannot believe that Jo told the other children. That's so bad.
00:21:01
simonthomas
Well, it was so bad. And then she was like, just go and tell, and she told Lucas or whatever, just go and tell Clemmie the news. She wasn't even going to tell Clemmie herself.
00:21:09
lizzie
What?
00:21:09
simonthomas
just Just go tell Clemmie that she's having a big brother or sister. I mean, to be fair, Clemmie getting a new brother or sister is like a daily occurrence for She's like...
00:21:13
lizzie
That's so bad.
00:21:18
lizzie
Yeah, and I was thinking, like, given that they never seem to remember that Evan exists, I don't think it'll make that much difference to them having yet another child because
00:21:26
simonthomas
ma
Moral Ambiguities and Evolving Relationships
00:21:27
lizzie
babies just get hidden away in cupboards, it would seem.
00:21:29
lizzie
um But i yeah, the delivery of news of a new sibling should not just be done by, like, your little brother running into her being like, by the way.
00:21:39
simonthomas
yeah I know something you don't know.
00:21:42
lizzie
exactly. so not okay. And what if he just never did and they didn't even know? Never actually got round to passing that news on.
00:21:48
simonthomas
it's like it's only when they're stuck in a lift later that she realized that she's having a baby but um yeah so the development is that dawn finally like it took a lot for her to be like joseph addy like stealing a kidney didn't do it like all these other things
00:21:54
lizzie
Yeah.
00:22:07
simonthomas
um and i'm i'm glad that robert seems to have got off relatively scot-free from moira and a everyone else even kane maybe kane doesn't know about robert's involvement but um but yeah they seem for once they've actually gone to the root of the problem unlike when everyone hated kim when it was clearly joe but you know
00:22:23
lizzie
That's true.
00:22:26
lizzie
Yeah. Yeah, I think I just don't really know what's going to happen next in terms of surely Robert would be scheming behind the scenes to like make things happen in a way that he's not at the moment.
00:22:39
lizzie
Like...
00:22:39
simonthomas
And Joe has put the rent up after a week, whatever it was.
00:22:42
lizzie
Yeah, what is going on there?
00:22:46
simonthomas
Yeah. And I think we have new renter's rights coming in just now, haven't we?
00:22:47
lizzie
um
00:22:50
simonthomas
So is he allowed to do it? I don't
00:22:53
lizzie
Yeah, I think he's breaking the law, but that is something he does quite a lot, so.
00:22:57
simonthomas
Yeah, and the police don't care. Can you imagine if they'd actually acted on that?
00:23:02
simonthomas
um I did enjoy joe suggesting that he was going to quote look into morning sickness in that scene like what does that mean he's like don't worry guy ask I'll throw some money at the problem no more morning sickness
00:23:12
lizzie
What, does he think he's going to solve it
00:23:17
lizzie
Yeah, don't worry. I'll buy you out of it, if that's okay. Okay.
00:23:21
simonthomas
yeah I feel a bit like that but you know if anyone can you're welcome ladies Joe's gonna get one done
00:23:30
lizzie
ah Thank goodness, women's health is just solved.
00:23:36
simonthomas
yeah i mean it's gonna devastate the vitamin business that sarah was heavily investing in but big follic is done but yeah so i'm quite excited to see where this goes i love a little team up so i like that moira and um
00:23:43
lizzie
yeah who's going to be buying folic acid now? Nobody, presumably.
00:23:48
lizzie
Big F is over.
00:23:56
simonthomas
and Dorna teaming up against him. And, yeah, I assume if he's not leaving, he'll come back from it.
00:23:58
lizzie
yeah that's cute.
00:24:03
simonthomas
But, you know, I mean, but yeah I wish they just made him like more of a morally gray character than just like pure evil.
00:24:04
lizzie
Yeah.
00:24:10
simonthomas
But, I mean, definitely.
00:24:11
lizzie
Yeah, because I think for a while we did get that nice, like, morally gray middle ground of like, he had redeemable features, but he was also nasty. Whereas, yeah, they've definitely just gone the whole hog on making him a nasty piece of work, haven't they?
00:24:25
simonthomas
yeah yeah and when he's like i swear in your life that i didn't do this and and all that sort of things like it was really over the top it was like joe come on why are you doing this
00:24:29
lizzie
know.
00:24:32
lizzie
But maybe that's what and Dawn needed to finally realize, like, if you're willing to swear on my life, something that I know isn't true, it's a no from me.
00:24:35
simonthomas
a
00:24:42
simonthomas
yeah she should have said it was sweet billy maybe
00:24:45
lizzie
i know, well, maybe she'll be back to him now.
00:24:47
simonthomas
she will if she can find him i was trying to think where he lives do we know where he lives
00:24:53
lizzie
No, and I think that's because he's barely in Emmerdale anymore, which I think is such a shame. He's such a good normal character.
00:24:58
simonthomas
It really is. And, you know.
00:25:02
simonthomas
Yeah, if you know ah what Billy's up to, dinglealltheway.pod at gmail.com. Do let us. He keeps abreast of his movements.
00:25:08
lizzie
Yeah, I would love to have some sort of insight into well
00:25:11
simonthomas
At least he's got transferable skills from working at the haulage firm. So maybe the actor is also doing some light haulage.
00:25:16
lizzie
Maybe he's just having a normal life like nobody else in Emmerdale is. of like He just goes to work, goes to the gym, cooks himself a dinner and sees his kids sometimes. like That would be so legit.
00:25:25
simonthomas
Yeah. it's true just haven't got few
00:25:29
lizzie
Yeah, just enjoying being a human being in a way that the others in the village can't seem to.
00:25:35
simonthomas
must be so restful for the children to go to his and just like have a bit of peace you know um so what else so so much else we've got we had ah we had another very special episode of
00:25:40
lizzie
So true.
00:25:51
lizzie
was so special. It was so special that I forgot to watch it until this morning because I accidentally missed the Cain and Moira episode from a couple of days ago. And then you texted me like, I'm trying to watch this, but it's really boring.
00:26:00
simonthomas
if
00:26:04
lizzie
And i was like, well what? What are you talking about?
00:26:05
simonthomas
if
00:26:06
lizzie
There's a whole episode about Cain and Moira having sex.
00:26:09
simonthomas
yeah if we learned one thing in this episode is that moira flipping loves she who loves it
00:26:16
lizzie
can She can't cope without it. I don't know. I think it is a good thing that they are covering that as a topic and that like that is a good conversation for them to be having in a marriage.
00:26:21
simonthomas
it's a good thing to address i grant you
00:26:27
lizzie
I think I just do find it quite tedious seeing Cain realise basically on a weekly basis that it's quite good to talk about your feelings and
Moira and Cain's Relationship Analysis
00:26:36
lizzie
then completely forget again.
00:26:36
simonthomas
it's
00:26:38
lizzie
And you're like, we do this all the time.
00:26:42
simonthomas
so frustrating this is because basically this this episode did not move the storyline on at all it just did exactly what kane learned in that one form of liam like two weeks ago the charity and charity yeah yeah
00:26:52
lizzie
Yeah, and what Cain learned in the one time with charity. Yeah, you're just like every time that Cain has a conversation, he realizes, oh, maybe I should share my emotions more. And then he never learns.
00:27:04
simonthomas
And then he does not learn. ah
00:27:06
lizzie
But if actually real life, maybe.
00:27:07
simonthomas
and and
00:27:09
lizzie
Like it does take a long time for people to change, but it's tedious.
00:27:09
simonthomas
Well, to men are stubborn.
00:27:13
lizzie
Normally we don't have to watch it.
00:27:15
simonthomas
Normally you don't to watch it And I do think the special episodes are just a way of saving money on cast, is my theory.
00:27:21
lizzie
That's why we have so many of them and so few female cast members because they keep axing them.
00:27:23
simonthomas
So many...
00:27:27
simonthomas
And I will say, yeah, think it's great to talk about later middle-aged people and the fact that they still enjoy sex too but do we necessarily want to have that conversation with the brother so with the sister of one of the people involved where more is just talking to Cain's sister and being like I flipping love sex with your brother it's like that's it's just it's quite upsetting and then Liam's simply like I know what it's like Liam's like I know what it's like to be with a wild woman talking about Cain's sister to him it's like why we
00:27:46
lizzie
Yeah, true. I hadn't thought about that. I would find that very difficult.
00:27:59
lizzie
I thought he specifically was like, oh no, not Chaz, someone else.
00:28:02
simonthomas
is that Is that better? I don't know.
00:28:03
lizzie
I don't know. yeah
00:28:05
simonthomas
Look, we know it's Bernice. Obviously, we know it's Bernice. But yeah, it was it's very, like, Maury didn't flinch and being like, your brother knows what's up.
00:28:19
lizzie
It was just a lot all round, but maybe we're both prudes.
00:28:19
simonthomas
It was a lot.
00:28:23
simonthomas
Maybe we are. the thing i The two things I most enjoyed about the episode were, one, that Moira was visibly sickened at the idea of wearing Chaz's cast-off clothes. to bags And then, two, there was, for some reason, a cuddly cat with like a plastic cone around its neck on the table.
00:28:39
simonthomas
like some like Maybe Eve has been like taking that cuddly cat to the vet, to fake vet.
00:28:41
lizzie
Oh.
00:28:44
lizzie
I completely missed that. I think um I was in the thick of making some beaded fish.
00:28:46
simonthomas
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:51
simonthomas
I'm sorry to say it's not the first I've heard of those. but yeah because they wasn Because had you looked up, it was very dominant on screen and for quite a lot of that conversation.
00:28:54
lizzie
And it may have been a case of me sort of seeing Emmerdale more as a podcast than a visual medium.
00:29:06
lizzie
That's quite sweet, though, if she's like playing vets because of Paddy.
00:29:10
simonthomas
Yeah, because of their dad.
00:29:11
lizzie
I like that. Yeah, that is nice.
00:29:12
simonthomas
It was nice. It felt like something that maybe should have been explained, but also why not?
00:29:18
lizzie
Maybe it was a deleted scene.
00:29:18
simonthomas
Same.
00:29:19
lizzie
Just
00:29:20
simonthomas
Maybe it was. Yeah.
00:29:22
lizzie
unexplained cat.
00:29:24
simonthomas
So yeah, we went through all of that. came Ken and Liam had another talk. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:29:29
lizzie
Yeah, I think Liam is just a tough watch. Like when he was trying to fix that chair and being like, you're going to need this wood glue soon. And you're like, don't say that.
00:29:37
simonthomas
Now also, if that's your medical advice, I'm truly concerned about all your patients. Just shove some glue down there.
00:29:42
lizzie
just Does Liam have a DBS check?
00:29:48
simonthomas
Look, the fact that he hasn't been struck off is... the wrong sort of medical miracle but um yeah i'm sure that come at some point or maybe he's just never actually qualified just sort of wandered in and they're like oh you seem middle class say probably go for your life yeah see that's true yeah
00:29:52
lizzie
Yeah, you're so right.
00:30:01
lizzie
You're wearing a shirt, so yeah, it's fine. Which is essentially what Monty told us about how easy it is to get into a hospital. Like, if you're wearing chinos, probably just pass as a doctor and it be okay.
00:30:12
simonthomas
do what you like um Lydia and Moira had like a short-lived feud that was maybe for three minutes
00:30:18
lizzie
I know, and that made me quite
Barn Fire Mystery and Legal Drama
00:30:20
lizzie
sad. i didn't like that.
00:30:22
simonthomas
No. And in fact, I'll of have character for Lydia as well.
00:30:25
lizzie
Yeah, it felt very out of character for Lydia. I feel like Lydia, sadly, is just becoming more and more of a plot device.
00:30:32
simonthomas
And she does exclusively cook rabbit stew. Like, every time they ask what she's cooking.
00:30:35
lizzie
Why is she so obsessed with rabbit stew?
00:30:39
simonthomas
And I get it. some people Sometimes people eat rabbit stew, but not for every meal every day, surely. I'm
00:30:44
lizzie
Yeah, it's like the guy who ate fish in ice cake.
00:30:47
simonthomas
obsessed with fish. But... um
00:30:49
lizzie
but it's just like, I got fish on the brain. um Yeah, like every single meal is rabbit stew.
00:30:52
simonthomas
yeah yeah and she also was at one point seemed to be developing a crippling addiction to energy drinks for that again was maybe short-lived
00:31:03
lizzie
Yeah, true. And then didn't she like crochet herself senseless because she was up all night or something?
00:31:10
simonthomas
good a good Oh dear. Yeah. And that, oh every time we see that horrible sign for Dingle Farm with like this leading against some corrugated iron, it's like that poor woman has come like unjustifiably arrested.
00:31:19
lizzie
I know.
00:31:25
simonthomas
And they're like, don't worry that whilst you're in prison, we've lost your farm because we've got you a new farm. It's just like, what, like, what am i looking at? It's just some scrap metal.
00:31:33
lizzie
And the fact that that is meant, the fact that that's meant to be Sam's handwriting is kind of just beyond belief. And actually, you know, there was that note that Isaac had written, like, can I have special chips for tea?
00:31:45
lizzie
I thought that Sam had written that because I was like, wow, I guess that's just like the way that they are presenting Sam as a person.
00:31:47
simonthomas
yeah
00:31:51
lizzie
person And that's kind of problematic. It was so obviously an adult trying to do child handwriting. that I was like, that must have been Sam. Yeah.
00:31:58
simonthomas
And it always is. It's like, why don't just ask the child to write it? Why do you need an adult adult in the art department to write this?
00:32:01
lizzie
Yeah. Exactly. It's quite troubling. Oh, do you think when we go on the Emmerdale site tour this time, we're just going to be like tearing it apart and being like, you should do this differently. Have you ever considered like,
00:32:17
simonthomas
We love Emmerdale. That's the main thing, guys.
00:32:19
lizzie
we love Emmerdale, but have you considered doing a lot of things quite differently?
00:32:19
simonthomas
Do
00:32:22
lizzie
Cause we know best.
00:32:24
simonthomas
do you think we'll get to see that farm? Like the Dingle farm?
00:32:27
lizzie
Oh, maybe. We'll probably get to see, like, Zach's grave. Although, no, we didn't go up to Wishing Well Cottage last time, did we?
00:32:32
simonthomas
No, we didn't, did we?
00:32:34
lizzie
But it was sort of, like, pointed at.
00:32:34
simonthomas
No.
00:32:37
simonthomas
Yeah. I really can't work out where they where the funding is coming from or how this is raising money.
00:32:38
lizzie
Maybe we'd be allowed to go off-paste.
00:32:43
lizzie
For the farm.
00:32:44
simonthomas
or just like how the farm is like an income to them at the moment. Because surely it isn't.
00:32:48
lizzie
because they don't appear to have any herds, and every time they are thinking about it, Moira just goes off to help on the other farm.
00:32:55
simonthomas
Yeah, and I like that she's... yeah i mean, she didn't seem to any farming when she was there. She was always just sending other people to do it. But it's nice that she's... a
00:33:02
lizzie
As soon as she's gone, she's really into it.
00:33:03
simonthomas
getting involved now she yeah she had she had that scene where she went back to look at it and robert found her and presumably kyle was on the stairs or something but um what found weirdest was like they put the new photos up and i think it was i think it must be in victoria or maybe it was bell i can't remember now it was a photo on the fridge where as far as i could tell she was like cosplaying myra hindley and they were just like what's what's the context here
00:33:30
lizzie
so dark.
00:33:34
simonthomas
yeah well and then there was a fire at the barn that was ah apparently caused because someone thinks he's human trafficker and i thought that was going to be like a cover for something and we'd find out it was joe who'd done it or something but it was just like oh no someone's angry that moira got released from human trafficking charges so they just set fire to a barn and it's like okay
00:33:34
lizzie
Yeah, that is tricky.
00:33:53
lizzie
Yeah, I too thought that was going to go somewhere, but I guess we're just meant to believe it was an an anonymous hate crime and the police don't care. Were the police even told?
00:34:03
simonthomas
well, why would you at this point? They'll probably just arrest Bear for it.
00:34:06
lizzie
Yeah. It is quite confusing. um
00:34:12
simonthomas
Oh, I can't believe what Bear is having to go through.
00:34:12
lizzie
ah Yeah. what
00:34:14
simonthomas
whether like we we found out evidence that there was a bank account. Therefore, even though you're clearly a vulnerable old man who was terribly mistreated, we think probably you were in on it.
00:34:25
lizzie
Yeah, I just think, I know we say this every episode, but this is such another example of how Emmerdale like to try and do like a spotlight on a genuinely terrible issue, i.e.
00:34:36
lizzie
human trafficking, modern day workplace bullying, but then the way they do it, it just spirals out of control and becomes completely unbelievable.
00:34:45
simonthomas
yeah
00:34:46
lizzie
Like this would never have happened.
00:34:49
simonthomas
no like not a single bit of it and also the big solution that obviously graham was involved in when they find simo which i assume is sort of a simon and maybe something i should consider for myself and and theyome is i do have one friend calls me simo actually but um i don't know what that is but yes
00:34:50
lizzie
It's not raising awareness anymore.
00:35:01
lizzie
Simo Thomas.
00:35:04
lizzie
Like Flymo.
00:35:08
lizzie
lord i
00:35:10
simonthomas
oh, okay, can we get it? She's got a lawn.
00:35:13
lizzie
Thank you.
00:35:14
simonthomas
Yeah, ah yeah and they think they seem to think him just going up and being like, yeah, no, what you said is true is like really compelling new evidence in a way that I don't fully understand because surely, like he could lie.
00:35:28
simonthomas
could also be in on it.
00:35:29
lizzie
Yeah, I did think like the strength of one witness who was a relative stranger so two days ago, and we don't really know what he's actually going to say when he gets up to the stand, and he's maybe been blackmailed by Graham to do it.
Health Mishaps and Community Events
00:35:44
simonthomas
Yes.
00:35:44
lizzie
I'm not sure if it's going to completely change the case, but also I'm pretty sure it will because this is Emmerdale.
00:35:49
simonthomas
Because that seems to be the way they're framing it, yeah.
00:35:50
lizzie
Yeah.
00:35:52
simonthomas
um And Burbing, like, I did horrible things to him. It's like, okay, do we know what he's going to say?
00:35:56
lizzie
Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:58
simonthomas
her Yeah.
00:35:58
lizzie
Yeah, he could just get up to his stand and be like, Bear was awful and he was Ray's right hand man.
00:35:58
simonthomas
Yeah,
00:36:04
simonthomas
it's true. And when Paddy's like, he's going to spend the rest of his life in jail, it's like, he might do that before the court date happens at this point, and he seems to be teetering. Yeah.
00:36:13
lizzie
He is on the edge. Yeah, I did find it quite sweet the way that Paddy was like just sorting out all of his affairs and being like, everybody needs to like know what to do when I'm gone in a way that like, Basically, everybody in Emmerdale has at some point thought they were about to go to prison and nobody has thought to get their finances in order.
00:36:27
simonthomas
No one else prepares.
00:36:29
lizzie
so that was nice to see.
00:36:29
simonthomas
Although I did think it was quite patronising when he was like giving lists of what's one of the vet to Rona and Vanessa, who both worked there for like 10 years. It's like, they do know this already, Paddy, surely.
00:36:37
lizzie
Yeah, that did feel a little bit mansplaining, unfortunately.
00:36:41
simonthomas
He's like, do you know what an animal is I'm going to write it down.
00:36:45
lizzie
Animal.
00:36:46
simonthomas
who
00:36:47
lizzie
um Something about that final sort of night before the court date, though, was I just I can see that. it was maybe sweet that Mandy organized for everybody to come over. But it was just a huge sort of trampling over his boundaries of him being like, actually, it's my final night at home before I maybe go to prison for the rest of my life. I'd just like it to like be a quiet one, spend it with you and Dylan. And then she was like, actually, I'm going to have your whole family over.
00:37:12
simonthomas
yeah it's like I'm gonna disregard that um if that's okay and then day or two before that when he was like reminiscing about Eve can't remember it was with Mandy or with Chaz but he was just like in paroxysms all after about Eve being genuinely terrified of giraffes and it's like this sounds like a traumatic experience for her why are you finding it so funny
00:37:17
lizzie
If that's okay with you.
00:37:32
lizzie
yeah he like it was also kind of unhinged because he was like almost unable to finish the story because he was laughing so much and then literally and then like five seconds later he was like completely incensed because um of Mandy being like oh maybe we don't have to do this and panic and stay in prison and like
00:37:40
simonthomas
he seemed hysterical
00:37:53
lizzie
It was so one extreme to the other, like he was hysterically laughing and then hysterically shouting, being like, I want to be anywhere but around you. And you're like, oh, this is a whirlwind. This is a lot take in.
00:38:02
simonthomas
He's very hormonal. He's got a lot going on.
00:38:04
lizzie
Yeah, he's going through a lot.
00:38:07
simonthomas
um Speaking of all this, like, evidence and stuff, who saved the day? it was Cammie.
00:38:15
lizzie
It's always Cammy and nobody ever cares.
00:38:16
simonthomas
Who's Cammie? um yeah I forget the exact details of how he saved the day. who like, learned about a storage locker or something. Is that right?
00:38:24
lizzie
um Yeah, didn't he like run a check on some registration plates and that got them to the right storage locker or something? I ah don't know, but it was Cammie and nobody thanked him.
00:38:30
simonthomas
Oh, that's right. no detect him I enjoyed how much he was bringing himself up. We just kept being like, this is all because of me. I'm great.
00:38:38
lizzie
Yeah.
00:38:38
simonthomas
was like, yeah, you are great, Cammie. Well done.
00:38:41
lizzie
I'm spending quite a lot of time at the moment thinking about how much fun it would be if he's the person that we meet on the star tour.
00:38:47
simonthomas
Oh, we mustn't get our hope up too much, but it would be so...
00:38:49
lizzie
Maybe I'll make him a beaded fish.
00:38:54
simonthomas
I think he'd find it very hard to know what to do with that. But...
00:38:57
lizzie
I know, so would I.
00:38:59
simonthomas
Imagine if you just go through like, firstly, I'd like to present you with this.
00:39:03
lizzie
they are key rings, so I think they'd be useful, but I just don't know if I want to become the type of like soap fan who makes gifts for the actors. That seems like a bridge too far for me.
00:39:13
simonthomas
It is a lot, isn't it? And maybe we need to save that for like our next tour to the NBL set, because I assume we're going to keep going every couple of years for the rest of our lives.
00:39:20
lizzie
Surely.
00:39:20
simonthomas
bret um
00:39:21
lizzie
Surely.
00:39:23
simonthomas
I guess also when they give guests, they're often in some way relevant, which I feel like could be a Bina Fish might not be.
00:39:29
lizzie
It might be though.
00:39:30
simonthomas
Unless you like do it as him, you're like, I'm recreating cast members in Bina Fish.
00:39:35
lizzie
oh that sounds awful.
00:39:37
simonthomas
ah I honestly don't know where your lines are, and I can't pretend to understand.
00:39:40
lizzie
Okay. I'm just, all I'm hearing is that you definitely don't want me to make you a beaded fish, Kiering.
00:39:45
simonthomas
I would love a beaded fish skiering, you know that.
00:39:46
lizzie
That's a shame. You've been nothing but anti the beaded fish since we started this call.
00:39:51
simonthomas
That's not true. I've said repeatedly, maybe it was before the call, I thought they were cute. say
00:39:57
lizzie
you You said you didn't know why i was doing them.
00:40:01
simonthomas
That's something I'm like, hey, stand by. But that's...
00:40:03
lizzie
I already told you it's a cry for help.
00:40:04
simonthomas
it
00:40:05
lizzie
That's why I'm doing them.
00:40:08
simonthomas
Yeah, fine. bring the I mean, I think it'd be weird to customise them for Cammy since we've got no reason to believe he'll be the person there. think that i hope but
00:40:15
lizzie
Well, I could just make a sort gender neutral one and give it to whoever we meet.
00:40:22
lizzie
Let's see how we feel.
00:40:22
simonthomas
You could bring loads. You could hand them out. You could put our web address on that.
00:40:24
lizzie
I've given to everyone on our tour group.
00:40:27
simonthomas
We have a web address. We could put them all the way on them. Can you do that in Beans?
00:40:31
lizzie
It'll weave a QR code into its body. ah
00:40:36
simonthomas
should we Should we at the very least bring business cards?
00:40:40
lizzie
Yeah, maybe. i don't know
00:40:43
simonthomas
Yeah, or macarons.
00:40:44
lizzie
It's worth a try.
00:40:45
simonthomas
One of the two, but um yeah. Great. um So for some reason, Belle and Cammy are back on and it feels so weird.
00:40:57
simonthomas
like They had that storyline that they just decided to postpone and they've just picked up now and it's great. I love i love that they're back together but it didn't make any sense why they broke up. it didn't make any sense why they're together but let's just forget all of that and just get with it, I guess.
00:41:07
lizzie
Yeah, apparently they had no spark and now they do have a spark, which I guess maybe it would happen in real life.
00:41:10
simonthomas
Another all-sparkled day.
00:41:14
lizzie
But it does seem quite clearly that the writers were like, actually, we don't have space in the schedule right now for this to happen, but we'll do it in a year, right?
00:41:21
simonthomas
Yeah, it's that great find. Lewis and Vinny are obviously very invested in it. We haven't seen much of them since they got together. That seems to be the end of their storyline. Okay,
00:41:28
lizzie
Yeah, but I did see Lewis posting on social media recently that he's having he's got a storyline coming up. So presumably it will be maybe to do with, oh my word, I've forgotten the name of that guy,
00:41:39
simonthomas
I have...
00:41:40
lizzie
have I think that maybe Kev's coming back and we'll presumably see more of Vinny because Lewis will be on screen a bit more.
00:41:48
simonthomas
That's true, and Vinny can empathise with finding out who your dad is at a later date.
00:41:52
lizzie
Yeah, so true.
00:41:54
simonthomas
um Yeah, Cammy and Belle go on their dates during the working day, as usual, and indeed go to give blood, which, ah you know, the most hygienic place to give blood is in a pub.
00:42:05
simonthomas
so
00:42:05
lizzie
Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:42:06
simonthomas
yeah Also, the day before when they were inviting people to this, there was a terrifying poster up saying, give blood today for an event that was not happening that day. it was quite confusing.
00:42:17
lizzie
Give blood today brackets if you read this poster tomorrow.
00:42:20
simonthomas
yeah Yeah. um And like, I've never given blood because I'm very squeamish and I recognize that makes me a better person. I wish I were the sort of person who could give blood, but but I would not do it in a pub.
00:42:33
simonthomas
It's so bizarre. There's literally a doctor's across.
00:42:34
lizzie
Yeah, it doesn't seem right, does it? And I don't think that makes you a bad person.
00:42:38
simonthomas
thank you for saying that. I offset my guilt about it by being an organ donor, but can do what they like when I'm dead and gone.
00:42:43
lizzie
That's nice.
00:42:44
simonthomas
Take what you want.
00:42:44
lizzie
Yeah.
00:42:45
simonthomas
Have a real rummage.
00:42:45
lizzie
Or maybe alive if you come into contact with Joe Tate.
00:42:46
simonthomas
Yeah. It's true. haven't consented to that. I want to make that very clear on on the record. fit
00:42:53
lizzie
Neither did Caleb.
00:42:54
simonthomas
Yeah.
00:42:55
lizzie
um I have a blood story, which is not squeamish related, i promise.
00:42:58
simonthomas
Oh, gosh. Okay, great.
00:43:00
lizzie
um But one of my friends, Jenny, was recently like went to the doctor because she was just really tired all the time. And they did a blood test and they were like, wow, you're very, very, very anemic.
00:43:10
simonthomas
Hmm.
00:43:15
lizzie
And apparently like the levels of iron in your blood or like ferritin meant to be between 40 and 100. And like if it's below 40, you're anemic.
00:43:25
lizzie
If it's below something like 30, they're like incredibly worried about you. hers was on two i know and theyre like so like how how are you in yourself and she was like yeah like I guess I do fall asleep if I sit still for more than like 10 minutes but I thought that was just like life in your 30s and they were like that is not life in your 30s so yeah she's just like doing all she can to get more iron in her body
00:43:32
simonthomas
What? Oh my gosh. How are you going through the day?
00:43:44
simonthomas
goodness. Sure.
00:43:50
lizzie
And then on the other side of the story, we've got in my family, um there's like a genetic condition called hemochromatosis, which is the opposite of anemia where your body retains too much iron.
00:43:51
simonthomas
my goodness sure
00:44:02
lizzie
And on the same scale where you're meant to be between 40 and 100, my uncle was once on 900.
00:44:09
simonthomas
Oh my goodness.
00:44:10
lizzie
I know, isn't that wild that you can be so different? And I'm like, is there a world in which my uncle could just give Jenny some blood?
00:44:13
simonthomas
So much iron or not.
00:44:18
simonthomas
I guess. Is he still with us?
00:44:20
lizzie
He is still with us, yeah.
00:44:21
simonthomas
There we go. We'll get Jacob on it. Just siphon between the two.
00:44:23
lizzie
Yeah, so could be quite cute.
00:44:25
simonthomas
if I told you my iron blood story? i can't remember.
00:44:27
lizzie
No?
00:44:28
simonthomas
Years ago, i went, sorry, this is so irrelevant to Emmerdale, but um every now and then I mention Emmerdale characters, so it feels more like it's relevant to the podcast.
00:44:35
lizzie
That's nice.
00:44:35
simonthomas
um I went to get some various blood tests because I thought I was diabetic at one point because you classic me. And I ah i wasn't. um And the receptionist phoned later to say, like, can you come in to talk about your abnormal iron levels?
00:44:51
simonthomas
is like, okay, fine, yeah.
00:44:51
lizzie
Oh.
00:44:52
simonthomas
So I went in assuming that they'd say like I was anemic. And they said to me like, oh, your iron is a bit high. And because I'd self-diagnosed with low iron, I was taking iron supplements. So was just like, it just seemed like the sort of thing I would be. But they were like, you don't need supplements, to stop taking them.
00:45:08
simonthomas
i
00:45:08
lizzie
Please stop putting more iron in your body.
00:45:11
simonthomas
And I stopped my iron return to normal. So that's but that's a lesson to us all is don't don't just medicate yourself on the basis of nothing.
00:45:14
lizzie
that's good.
00:45:21
lizzie
Yeah, that is a good life lesson, actually. Maybe we should have a live lesson life lesson from each um episode.
00:45:23
simonthomas
Yeah.
00:45:27
lizzie
This one is don't give yourself more iron than you need.
00:45:27
simonthomas
That's mine, yeah. um if Please, or anything. um Yeah, well, Godspeed to your uncle and to Jenny. What a lot going on iron-wise.
00:45:37
lizzie
Yeah, exactly. It's just a lot happening, yeah.
00:45:41
simonthomas
Um, speaking of health, like I thought Lydia referred to Cain being very poorly, which I guess is true, but it feels like maybe not far enough for terrible cancer. Like I feel like very poorly as for like needed stay or sick because you're feeling a bit, yeah, a bit under the weather.
00:45:54
lizzie
Fever.
00:45:56
simonthomas
but
00:45:57
lizzie
Yeah, I think poorly is one of those words that like people use for a variety of things when to me it just means that you've got the sniffles.
00:46:05
simonthomas
Who was I? Oh, this was someone that,
00:46:07
lizzie
It's very poorly.
00:46:09
simonthomas
I was wondering other day, and I can't remember who it was. um Oh, yes, my friend's sister's boyfriend. So he's German, and so he's not familiar necessarily with all of English idioms. And I referred to someone being under the weather, and he hadn't come across that before.
00:46:21
simonthomas
And he was like, why are all British expressions about the weather? And I was like, great it's a great question.
00:46:24
lizzie
but So true. So true.
00:46:28
simonthomas
um Apparently, there's a family group text for arranging to go and see Cain. So there is that Dingle group text we wondered about.
Workplace Drama and Personal Tensions
00:46:34
lizzie
Yeah, like absolutely desperate to get insight into some group chats that are in in Emmerdale. Like, can they please just do a bit of that? Like even just on the social media, that'd be great.
00:46:45
simonthomas
Yeah. And that was a thing that lots of people were getting into, like Neighbours certainly did it maybe like early to mid 2000s. They'd set up loads of Twitter accounts for their characters and they'd like talk to each other.
00:46:56
simonthomas
um And I don't think it ever got enough engagement for people to keep going.
00:46:56
lizzie
So good.
00:46:59
simonthomas
But it was a nice, nice time for a social media intern, I suppose.
00:47:03
lizzie
Yeah, like I would do that. I would put that up on our account if I had more, you know, time. That would be something I would be into.
00:47:10
simonthomas
i think I think we should overcommit given the yeah stagnant state of our current social media presence.
00:47:15
lizzie
I know. And I do love to overcommit and underdeliver.
00:47:19
simonthomas
Do you remember when we started this podcast and you were like, we should do it every single week?
00:47:19
lizzie
It's my brand.
00:47:22
simonthomas
And I was like, Lizzie, just don't think we can do that.
00:47:23
lizzie
know.
00:47:24
simonthomas
And I was like, we barely do what we say we'll do.
00:47:25
lizzie
Thank you.
00:47:29
lizzie
I know. It is tragic, isn't it? I'm so sorry. Sorry that I'm the person that you have to do this with.
00:47:34
simonthomas
ah well, I'm going away for once and in May slash June, so maybe I'll be the problem for once. Maybe I've got something going on in my life, actually.
00:47:40
lizzie
Yeah.
00:47:42
simonthomas
So it would be a real fresh wind.
00:47:42
lizzie
That would be lovely for both of us.
00:47:47
lizzie
Yeah, exactly.
00:47:47
simonthomas
I didn't, yeah. um I think I'm down. Oh, no, i guess I'm not down to Therese because we should talk a bit about the workplace bullying story. Which I'm actually...
00:47:55
lizzie
Oh, I don't have loads to say, but
00:47:58
simonthomas
i I know it's getting, I see on Reddit, like people are a bit bored of it. I'm really appreciating the story. I think it's still quite interesting. um And I think, like, it's hard to know what her, MO is other than just being evil I guess we still don't know but um i't I don't think Jacob's doing good job in it I think she she's an interesting villain in that she isn't just like evil all the time she seems to have bit of nuance to her um I was interested by the HR lady he gave the complaint to who seemed very bored by the whole thing but
00:48:28
lizzie
Yeah, but then the next day was like, I'm so grateful that you've finally done this because we are we have been trying to take her down for a while. i'm like, well, you didn't give much away yesterday, did you?
00:48:35
simonthomas
No.
00:48:35
lizzie
Yeah.
00:48:36
simonthomas
And the fact that he's withdrawn the complaint is like, oh, well, over my day. So...
00:48:40
lizzie
Oh, well, that's life. Yeah, I think I'm kind of with you in that, like, it is an interesting storyline and I'm not bored with it yet. But I think I do just find it frustrating when, like, they're trying to bring a proper issue to light and give it exposure. and then they just make it, like, wild in terms of, like,
00:48:58
lizzie
I don't think workplace bullying normally involves like manipulating the birth mother of your surrogate child or moving to the same village as you and then complaining that you're stalking them.
00:49:05
simonthomas
Not normally, yeah.
00:49:11
lizzie
You're like, there's just, they've made it too much for it to be like,
00:49:14
simonthomas
Yeah, that was a weird moment, which was like, he's in my space. It's like your space, the pub. Like, what are you talking about?
00:49:20
lizzie
yeah, like the village that you moved to where he already lived. And I wondered,
00:49:24
simonthomas
Where he's lived for like 15 years.
00:49:26
lizzie
I wondered whether that was like quite a good opportunity for Manpreet and Vanessa to see that she is being a little bit like OTT with it. And like, cause they, I couldn't tell whether they were sort of being a bit like you weirdo, like that's not true.
00:49:39
lizzie
I don't
00:49:39
simonthomas
Yeah, and when she's also like, he's got a crush on me. It's like, you're you know, she's a very pretty woman, but she's also like 30 years older than him. And like he's like just recently got married. like i don't know I don't know if he's necessarily going to be like straying with her, but...
00:49:53
lizzie
Yeah, I don't think so. But it does seem inevitable that she's going to get together with Vanessa soon on their darts team.
00:49:58
simonthomas
Yes. Oh my gosh. It did seem quite culturally insensitive that the darts team is entirely made up of gay women, as far as I can tell. It's like, what are gay women like? Darts. Yeah.
00:50:08
lizzie
Yeah, so true. I hadn't even spotted that. um And Bernadette. No, Claudette. I always do that.
00:50:13
simonthomas
We love to call her Venda. And Manpreet seems to be hovering around peripheries. And then Nicola got involved, which I enjoyed. And
00:50:20
lizzie
And that was nice. I mean, didn't Jimmy sort try to? Oh, no, it was Bob.
00:50:23
simonthomas
and they're like, absolutely not. You're not a woman.
00:50:24
lizzie
thing is you're actually not a lesbian sorry
00:50:25
simonthomas
He's like, yeah. And I hope this is okay to say, but I think Nicola gives bisexual energy. and i wish I went with that.
00:50:36
lizzie
wish her all the best but she is so annoyed with him all the time but also so deeply loves him i think it's really sweet
00:50:37
simonthomas
Look, frankly, at this point, I think she would happily have relationship with anyone who is not Jimmy. So she's just like, she's not fussy.
00:50:50
simonthomas
Yeah, i love i I would be devastated if they ever broke up permanently, and I'm sure they won't at this point. I love them so much together, but I also love how she seems to be sickened by the very thought of him.
00:51:01
lizzie
It is cute, isn't it?
00:51:04
simonthomas
and I will say that when Jacob went to make this complaint, it was quite flimsy, because I think he has got good grounds, but in the actual complaint he made, he was just like, I'm quite tired. It's like, okay.
00:51:13
lizzie
I was thinking, I was thinking like surely if he had brought that like amount of paperwork to be like, I'm presenting my case for workplace bullying, there would have been something else in that paperwork other than like, I just feel a bit targeted and sad.
00:51:28
lizzie
Whereas like he has got examples of specific incidents that have happened and specific things that she said, and he didn't appear to say any of them.
00:51:32
simonthomas
yeah
00:51:36
simonthomas
no I guess he was overwhelmed and he was missing his own child's birth I guess but yeah but everyone missed it except for Mac and Ross so and obviously my favourite part of it was Ross teaming up with Jacob and yeah
00:51:41
lizzie
True, which was a bit gutting.
00:51:55
simonthomas
apparently has got a thirst for workplace justice that I was not aware of because I think you know anyone who works at the garage has got a good case for Cain being a workplace bully.
00:51:58
lizzie
yeah
00:52:03
lizzie
Oh yeah, so Drew, maybe he's just like living vicariously through this HR complaint. Oh, there's a football rolling down my road, but no one's claiming it.
00:52:12
simonthomas
well
00:52:12
lizzie
fun
00:52:14
simonthomas
um Yeah, i'm actually i've only got two strays left so we've really ratted through everything I had.
00:52:19
lizzie
Really, I've got, a yeah, I've only got a couple as well. Should I give one of mine?
00:52:24
simonthomas
Please, yeah.
00:52:25
lizzie
um There's been mention of mayor
00:52:28
simonthomas
Yes.
00:52:29
lizzie
And I don't know whether we've said this out loud or if I've just read it, but I thought it was pronounced Maya. Not that I was watching back then, but i've ah I'm sure I've only ever heard it pronounced Maya and now everyone's saying Maya.
00:52:42
simonthomas
Maya. I mean, certainly every other context I've heard that name is Maya, but i I was watching when she was there and I don't remember what she was called on screen.
00:52:51
lizzie
and maybe I've just only read about her and that's where it came from but I was like who's Maya and then they were saying Maya but I still my pet theory is still that that is Todd's ex-wife who's now in prison
00:52:53
simonthomas
Maya.
00:52:56
simonthomas
Maya. Maya.
00:53:03
simonthomas
It does seem possible, doesn't it?
00:53:05
lizzie
then
00:53:05
simonthomas
Yeah. Yeah, I'd be intrigued. I mean, yeah um
00:53:10
lizzie
so yeah
00:53:13
simonthomas
yeah. had, like, it was weird when April was apparently told by the court that she wasn't allowed to see her own boyfriend because they were testifying for different sides. It's like, can the court stop you seeing your boyfriend for that reason?
00:53:21
lizzie
Yeah. And then they did just sort of give up on it in the end, didn't they?
00:53:26
simonthomas
Yeah.
00:53:26
lizzie
Because they have just been hanging out. so
00:53:28
simonthomas
Yeah. mean... Yeah, they live across the road from each other. They're literally you're dating. a duty I don't know where the jurisdiction of the court begins and ends, but I don't think it can really be called witness tampering when it's like seeing someone that you've been dating for like a year.
00:53:38
lizzie
Yeah, me neither.
00:53:44
lizzie
Yeah, that does seem like sort of, I was about to say heavy shepherding. I don't know if that's a phrase we can use outside of a Christian context.
00:53:51
simonthomas
How easy it is. I mean, it's very it's very much a farming metaphor as well. Yeah.
00:53:55
lizzie
So true. My only last thought was that um in that period where gar ah Gary, not Gary, Cammie, Cammie was just like holding the garage together and was really, really stressed and needed loads of help.
00:54:04
simonthomas
Who's to Gary? Okay.
00:54:09
simonthomas
Yeah.
00:54:11
lizzie
At that point, Sarah didn't have a baby and was sort of not doing anything. Like, why wasn't she helping at the garage?
00:54:17
simonthomas
That's true. She's not maternity leave yet. and Unless she started on maternity leave early, because you can you pick a date, don't you?
00:54:20
lizzie
No,
00:54:24
simonthomas
um
00:54:25
lizzie
Yeah, maybe.
00:54:25
simonthomas
Yeah.
00:54:26
lizzie
I think that is normally when you are pregnant, though, rather than waiting for someone else to give birth.
00:54:30
simonthomas
I guess so, but I don't know how it works.
00:54:32
lizzie
She's just like pumping breast milk all the time, and I you could be doing an MOT at least.
00:54:32
simonthomas
I don't know.
00:54:40
simonthomas
Yeah, whilst you're doing pumping and doing oil change, it's basically the same thing. So...
00:54:43
lizzie
Exactly. Oil, colostrum, it's much of a muchness.
00:54:48
simonthomas
Yeah, poor Cammy. And poor Vanessa with her, like, I need my MOT right now. And Cammy's like, yeah, i'll do it in the next 10 minutes.
00:54:53
lizzie
Yeah, I know.
00:54:54
simonthomas
And then, like, actually I didn't. But... um so was Also, like, when when I take my car from MOT, assume it will take, a like, an extra day to come back to me. Because who knows if it's going to pass or not.
00:55:06
simonthomas
But...
00:55:06
lizzie
True, yeah. She shouldn't have been playing with those expectations. I did think it was a masterclass in um like giving good expectations. like Belle just walked in and was like, we're just going to tell everyone it's going to be later than it actually will be.
00:55:21
lizzie
And then they're prepared for the worst and we can improve on it.
00:55:21
simonthomas
yeah
00:55:24
lizzie
And you think that's such a good life lesson.
00:55:25
simonthomas
so yeah under promise over deliver unlike our social media um my final one is when nicola and jimmy were talking to jacob and sarah about their baby and being like oh it's cute now but you know they'll get to the age like like angel angelica where she's like slamming doors and it's like she also committed like vehicular manslaughter like are we are we
00:55:27
lizzie
Well done, Belle. Exactly. Unlike everything ever.
00:55:47
lizzie
Yeah, that wasn't the worst thing that she did, actually.
00:55:48
simonthomas
yeah like Are we prioritizing the wrong things here?
00:55:50
lizzie
Looking at her phone.
Aaron's Character Journey and Impact
00:55:52
lizzie
Like, I think maybe...
00:55:52
simonthomas
She's been to prison. or
00:55:56
simonthomas
um
00:55:56
lizzie
Oh dear, so good.
00:55:57
simonthomas
anyway
00:55:59
lizzie
um yeah Yeah, is that everything?
00:56:01
simonthomas
Shall we do our yes we do are a random character?
00:56:03
lizzie
Random character generator?
00:56:06
simonthomas
who what do we think about?
00:56:06
lizzie
Yes.
00:56:08
simonthomas
Oh, it's a big one. Aaron.
00:56:11
lizzie
Well, we did like a whole special episode on Aaron.
00:56:15
simonthomas
We did...
00:56:15
lizzie
So we have many, many thoughts. And if you want to hear them all, then you can go back to our episode about Aaron coming out. um Simon, do you want to give a summary on how you feel?
00:56:23
simonthomas
yeah and another one we did on rob ron as well oh yeah it was that well i yeah aaron was the character i was certainly most invested in when i started watching like 2009 2010 sort of time and he was the center of the show and got every storyline that was basically he was the show in terms of all his publicity um an amazing actor even at that young age and I think for a lot of time we've been watching, he was sort of sullied with that John storyline, which was so tedious and really dimmed his shine.
00:56:27
lizzie
Oh yes, I'm sure you're obsessed.
00:56:56
simonthomas
I didn't know.
00:56:56
lizzie
Dole to sparkle.
00:57:00
simonthomas
I still love him. I love when he gets to do a bit comedy. he was amazing in the storyline about his debt like his historic sexual abuse coming out. He was so good that.
00:57:12
simonthomas
He did feel for a while they were piling onto so many miserable things. We had self-harm and he's had like, suicide attempts and all sorts over years so it's nice when he gets to be a bit funnier my favorite things are him with Robert and him with his friend Adam who you know sadly is well he's just one I'm a celebrity so maybe he'll come back to Emmerdale after that um yeah
00:57:31
lizzie
That would be nice, but i kind of sight somehow doubt it.
00:57:35
simonthomas
but yeah it does it does feel like he's not the center of the show in the way he used to be and maybe they're not using his full potential because he hasn't had like big big stories well suppose the John one was big but it was so boring you know
00:57:44
lizzie
but Yeah, I'd say John was pretty big, but it'd be nice if he had another big story soon. I think that him and Robert... Sorry, I was going to say him and Rob Ron.
00:57:54
lizzie
Him and Robert might have a big story coming up. I don't know. They're certainly trying to start a farm.
00:58:00
simonthomas
Aren't they just? ah And I guess we might get Seb back at some point. I don't know if I necessarily want them to have endless, like, what's it like raising a child storyline. But um maybe I do.
00:58:11
lizzie
Yeah, maybe you do, maybe you don't.
00:58:12
simonthomas
I don't know.
00:58:13
lizzie
I think at the moment it's quite nice just that they're having a bit of downtime setting up a farm and stuff. And I mean, Robert is clearly w racked with guilt about sending Moira to prison, etc.
00:58:24
simonthomas
Et cetera.
00:58:25
lizzie
But other than that, they're having a bit of downtime and setting up a farm. Although I was a bit confused about why they are prioritising, like, redecorating the kitchen when it's like you're trying to set up a farm. Like, why are you doing this?
00:58:36
simonthomas
are you doing this? And I can't imagine either of them being like, we must have a sage green.
00:58:37
lizzie
Clearly Moira felt the same.
00:58:39
simonthomas
I cannot live another moment in here without this. but
00:58:42
lizzie
I know it's quite confusing to me but still we like Robert I mean Aaron we also like Robert we like Aaron he's good Danny Miller's incredible one of the best actors I think on the show we love it when he gets bit teary-eyed there's lots to love about Aaron
00:58:45
simonthomas
Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:56
simonthomas
we do he cries a lot um i think i'd like him to have another friend like his friendship with max seems to have rather like fizzled out because max just being friends of ross instead um obviously his friendship with adam was great his relationship with victoria was great but these people are not currently with us so
00:59:07
lizzie
oh yeah
00:59:14
lizzie
Gone but not forgotten.
00:59:15
simonthomas
Gumbit's suddenly not forgotten um so maybe some more friends for him but I do think he's also one of those characters you can put in with anyone and the chemistry does work like for a while he was just being trundled around to do like grief therapy with anyone so yeah
00:59:28
lizzie
Anyone and everyone.
Farming Storylines and Final Thoughts
00:59:31
simonthomas
um and he's also traditionally been like a dingle obviously but like sort of on the outskirts he wasn't always invited to like big dingle things and he does seem to be a bit more core dingle now which is nice can go okay
00:59:41
lizzie
Kingdingle. king dingle um And then we normally do if we got any farming content, but like, it's just a lot of farming content these days. Not that we're really seeing any animals, but they're just talking about farms all the time.
00:59:54
simonthomas
Yeah, there's a lot about farm blackmail, but not much about actual farming. So, yeah.
00:59:59
lizzie
I think what they need to realize is that I just want to see a sheep.
01:00:03
simonthomas
And who is running, what's that evil lady called? Celia's farm.
01:00:08
lizzie
Celia.
01:00:10
simonthomas
There's a whole farm there that's going to look dead.
01:00:10
lizzie
i mean, it wasn't that just like all turkeys that died.
01:00:13
simonthomas
if if Maybe it was. so Yeah. well I'm sure Paddy went to do something to a cow there at some point.
01:00:19
lizzie
Really, I thought they just like had turkeys and killed them all, but I don't really know.
01:00:19
simonthomas
Yeah.
01:00:23
simonthomas
Who knows? there's a seems There seems to have plenty of farms go around considering they're squabbling over this one. But yeah.
01:00:29
lizzie
yeah true. Well, and this one's riddled with ragwort, so.
01:00:31
simonthomas
Yeah. So we'd like, we...
01:00:35
simonthomas
I guess you absolutely mustn't put cows on that hill. That much we know. So that's something.
01:00:38
lizzie
Yeah, Matty was right all along and they didn't listen.
01:00:42
simonthomas
So sick of Matty. But yeah. if
01:00:45
lizzie
Sweet Matty.
01:00:46
simonthomas
Can't stand him. Anyway, on that note...
01:00:48
lizzie
Well, imagine if you have to meet the actor who plays Matty, I'll be gassed and you'll be like, I hate my life.
01:00:52
simonthomas
Oh no.
01:00:54
lizzie
I'll just be giving him a beaded fish.
01:00:56
simonthomas
you'll be we What we do know at this point is you will be giving computer fish to somebody. Because
01:01:02
lizzie
Whether they want it or not.
01:01:03
simonthomas
yes, we were going to go a couple weeks ago and then we move it and we learned that Mac is the person we would have worked met. So that's you know that's the ground that our friendship rests on.
01:01:10
lizzie
I
01:01:13
simonthomas
Is the person we see better or worse than Mac?
01:01:14
lizzie
know.
01:01:15
simonthomas
And I think there's plenty of people that I'd rather see the Mac and some people I'd much less like to see the Mac.
01:01:21
lizzie
I would have been really excited to meet Mac.
01:01:21
simonthomas
So yeah
01:01:24
lizzie
Gutting.
01:01:25
simonthomas
But you ah you were away. You were a busy gal.
01:01:27
lizzie
I know. was a busy girl. It does happen.
01:01:30
simonthomas
But if we if we do see Matthew or Graham, then that is probably the end of our friendship.
01:01:30
lizzie
Okay. Sorry. I'll be praying against that.
01:01:37
simonthomas
And we must be coming up for our first anniversary of Dinkle All The Way. exciting.
01:01:41
lizzie
Surely.
01:01:42
simonthomas
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
01:01:42
lizzie
that's so true. We should look into that and find out what on earth we started this thing.
01:01:47
simonthomas
and we'll be back in a couple of weeks, which might be our special anniversary episode.
01:01:54
lizzie
We may or may not have found out by that point. um But yeah, until then, keep in touch. Send us an email, dinglealltheway.pod at gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram. I probably won't put anything on there, but it's a fun touch.
01:02:07
lizzie
and keep on listening. Also, comments on Spotify are always really fun to read, so drop us a comment.
01:02:13
simonthomas
oh we love those yeah every blessing to you and yours
01:02:18
lizzie
And Godspeed. Godspeed.
01:02:20
simonthomas
hi