Introduction and Previous Episode Recap
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Speaker
Hello and welcome to the next episode of Dingle All The Way. I'm Lizzie. I'm Simon. And we're excited to talk about the last, I think, three weeks, is it? of ever Last in an episode because we've both been sort of taking it in turns to be away and busy. um So we hope that you enjoyed our little classic episode review last week. Would we call it a review? Probably. That's a grand term for what we did.
Ethical Implications of Outing in Emmerdale
00:00:26
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A deep deep deep deep, deep, deep, deep dive. Yeah, but probably not on any of the real salient points of the episode. But yeah, we enjoyed chatting with Tamsin last week um about the episode where Robert unfortunately kills Katie Sugden. um all r R.O.P.
00:00:47
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R.O.P. May she rip.
Listener Comments and Farming Focus
00:00:48
Speaker
um And actually, there was a really good comment on that episode, which I wanted to um draw attention to, although have not got to hand who actually said it ah Okay, it was BRLguy and he or she wrote, one thing about the Katie storyline that seems to be glossed over is that it's wrong to out someone.
00:01:09
Speaker
There are only rare situations where it's justified. While Robert's affair with Aaron is reprehensible, that doesn't excuse Katie's glee in her determination to out him, which is so true. um Yeah, we didn't really talk about that. but We didn't talk about that and we should have done because that is a really good bottom line of just like okay and not okay. It's not okay to out someone and she shouldn't have been so big on doing that.
00:01:33
Speaker
We're glad she's dead, is what I think you're saying. That's not what I'm saying. She asked for death. Yes, no, thanks. It a good comment. And I feel like we've got to the any other business part of like, of minuting a meeting. We need to respond the mailbag. We're not... I just wanted to do it first because it wasn't really relevant for anything else. Matters are rising. Yeah, true. Matters are rising from last week.
Dingle Farm Dynamics
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well, as you say, we're covering three weeks because of our strange schedule we've now got ourselves into. And it's been farm central. You can't move for farming content.
00:02:14
Speaker
I think, like... actual psychic corner like all we've been saying for the last few podcast episodes is like we need a bit of fun we need more farming content let's stop with doom and gloom and i think that last episode of of i was going to call it just episode the last episode of emmerdale where with the sort of cows being stolen i think that was my favorite episode of emmerdale ever ever Yes, it was definitely so much better than a few weeks ago when we were just like trudging through endless Dylan. we have had some more of Dylan being miserable and Paddy being miserable and Bear being miserable, but it's it's on the wane or wax which everyone's fading out and then waxing waxing is farming we should do our own like you know how everyone's doing
Home Farm Storyline Developments
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like ins and outs of 2026 we should do like waxing and waning like what's in what's out what's on the up so just to you know in case people have forgotten or don't watch eminor we've had the big sell from prison moira is like yeah
00:03:22
Speaker
sell that farm i'm worried about my um cancer-ridden husband and how the farm might stress him out i will say that it doesn't seem to have appeased his anxieties ah in the main but um and um in response they decide as far as i can tell that just writing dingle farm on a sign quite badly is the same as having a farm and just sticking it in a quite filthy yard and that's a farm and um Yeah, I liked the conversation that Lydia and Sam had where they were both like, yeah, neither of us really know how to run a farm, but I'm sure Cain will make it work.
00:03:58
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Cain, who is a car
Graham's Role and Relationships
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mechanic. but And yeah, he does seem to sometimes just be mending the back fence. That's his thing. And he did sort of save some sheep the other day with the help of Lewis. But ah but is he a farmer?
00:04:13
Speaker
is are any of the people running this farm farmers... do ah Do all of them have other jobs they need to do instead? Yes. i meant Lydia's like a full-time cleaner. So what does Sam do? I can't remember what Sam does. Wasn't Sam sort of like the grounds man for the how that home farm? That's right. Estate manager? No, someone else is a state manager.
00:04:34
Speaker
Come on to that. Is home farm a farm? Oh, that's a good question. I think it's a farmhouse that used to be part of the farm, but isn't anymore. That's what I thought. It doesn't feel like a functional farm, but it is in many ways called home farm.
00:04:47
Speaker
Having said that, Kim's first and only hobby is wandering into distant fields and then falling over. ah It's what she loves, and I wish you wouldn't shame her for it. She does some more of that. We'll get
Cain's Cancer Storyline
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on to that, I'm sure. but um Oh, golly. That woman needs to panic alarm. It's so true, and it needs to be linked up not to Ross.
00:05:11
Speaker
we are blitzing. There's so many things to talk about. Where should we where should we start with all this? Well, what somewhere I would like to start is potentially looping us back into the Matters Arising section. Oh, you're obsessed.
00:05:22
Speaker
Which is that we got an Instagram message from Jeremy Charles um saying ah that he's excited to hear us talking about the mulch shovel going all gastro. and Kim's cocktails going straight to Lydia's gums but then obviously it was actually an episode about Katie Suggdon dying um but those are two things i wrote down i wrote down the mulch shovel's gone all gastro when Eric said that and I absolutely need to see footage of Kim and Lydia drinking woo-woos because I have really enjoyed the Kim and Lydia friendship and I don't know if maybe like we could start with talking about just all the home farm based drama or
00:06:04
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yeah sure Yeah, So,
Character Dynamics and Interactions
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I mean, joe found out that Lydia is the beneficiary or the main beneficiary of Kim's will, so she gets to see the estate. and How did you find that out?
00:06:15
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oh, Graham, like, typed K-I-M-1-2-3-4 into a padlock or something. Great. Typed into a padlock? Sure. And, yeah, he found it to to sow his seeds of dissent. But we said this before, kim is not that near death.
00:06:38
Speaker
Kim is also a prox the same age as Lydia. Yeah, like, she's not going to live there for long. No, like Kim, I don't know how old Kim is, but she she's got access to the best healthcare care in the world. She could be, she's she could have decades and decades and decades in her. Lydia, I think I referred to when this conversation came up before, it' taking her own teeth out in the yard of the ranch. So that's... I think we also said that like, it does look like their house is riddled probably with black mold.
00:07:08
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And she like will have a lower life expectancy just from living there. But she's never going to move into Home Farm. She's never going to. And then granted, she probably won't leave it to Jo in her will. But I just bet Kim will outlive her. so Yeah, it's like a nice token gesture for them.
00:07:27
Speaker
Either way, Joe's acting like has to pack his bags that day. It's Joe, who this is not relevant to anything right now. It's not a big deal. I mean, I was impressed that like he eventually did talk about his emotions with Kim, even though he his emotions are that of an entitled small child. Like yeah that did feel like growth that he was like, this is where I feel at home.
00:07:49
Speaker
This is like, why it's affecting me so much. But it is ridiculous. And I do also just think everybody obsessing over her will is quite tactless. Like, they're just being like, when you die, i like will mainly be wondering where I'm going to live. And why does everybody else think that they can decide her will for her?
00:08:11
Speaker
Yes, literally what wills are, you get to choose yourself. And it's like a joke. It's the only place I've ever felt at home. it's like You've lived there a total of, what, like six years in your life of 30 or whatever. what What about all the other places you've lived? It's the only place you've ever felt that was at home that is also worth millions of pounds, perhaps. Then that's a fun coincidence. um Yeah, I mean, I guess he's probably just glad that he's not set up home in Dubai right now.
00:08:39
Speaker
That's true, and he is the type he would. I thought he had spent a lot of time there, or maybe... You're probably right. He did mention that he wanted to move there with, or maybe move back there with Dawn one point when he was like, just ditched the kids that he later developed an overwhelming sense of love for. But it comes and goes, it waxes and wanes. Waxes and wanes. Waiting this week, his love for his stepchildren. Imagine if one of them was called Wayne. can see it. Sorry, I don't know if this thing's called Wayne. It's lovely name.
00:09:11
Speaker
um Yeah, that was... So yeah, his... his As you say, good to be emotionally honest. Some things maybe be keep to yourself. Yeah. And it was a blessed relief that we didn't have to go too far down the route of him trying to frame Lydia for stealing because it did look like that was going to come a whole thing. And thankfully, thankfully dolan was like and absolutely no yeah I'm worried that that might still happen because like he was still setting up a bank account in her name. and We don't know why.
00:09:38
Speaker
i'm pretty sure you also need ID, but is this sort of some shady person who can do that for him? Yeah, I think he's not doing it through proper means. I think I'm mainly just confused about why Graham is still living there. like Nobody wants him there.
00:09:53
Speaker
No, least of all ours. Yeah. I've been quite enjoying um Costume Watch on Reddit. I don't know if you've seen this with everyone just being like, look what Graham was wearing today. and it's the exact same suit with a maroon tie.
00:10:08
Speaker
the Like, will he ever mix it up? And he's getting into that ah so the moment he wakes up, it seems like. He's having breakfast in it. he's he see's In the evening, he's still in it.
00:10:20
Speaker
Like, if I ever have to wear a suit like at some point in the day, which is maybe once a year to go to a wedding, I'm not putting that on before I have my breakfast. Yeah, the main thing I hear guys talking about weddings is how uncomfortable their suits are.
00:10:33
Speaker
So it does seem strange to me that Graham's wearing one like just to pop to the shops. Yeah, just to go and like declare his love for married women. yeah i guess it is a formal occasion, if anything is. True. And I just really
Aaron's Development and Graham's Influence
00:10:46
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don't know what Rona sees in him. He doesn't have a personality.
00:10:50
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no so yes, part of his attempt to win her back was like, let's meet on this bridge, which apparently where people go for confidential conversations, which is arguably one of the more visible places in the village. but truly And she wants to go, and it's unclear why, but she wish she can't because...
00:11:07
Speaker
one of her children that we never see is fell over or something. i didn't Yeah. And then, but then she does sort of make a concerted effort to go and find him again. And I don't know, I think we are teeing up for a love triangle, which is frustrating because Graham has no personality or it would seem attractive features.
00:11:28
Speaker
Marlon, although hapless, is a sweet, sweet soul. he is. And um of course it could be a love square because the reason Rona, but went off the idea of, you know, I know some, whatever she was considering with Graham was not the fact that she's married. It was the fact that she found out that Graham had slept with Kim. That's so true. And it does feel like Graham and Kim are getting a bit cozy again now. And it's like, they've called a truce, but is that in a platonic way or not?
00:11:53
Speaker
Obviously not because nothing in Emmerdale is ever platonic, but yeah, it is a confusing one, isn't it? I don't know what's going to happen there. Yeah, and I mean, part of me doesn't care, but i do like him and Rona as characters. I find them interesting. i want um I want better for them. I just don't think, this is what annoys me in Emmerdale sometimes, is when characters who wouldn't have an affair do have an affair. And there's some characters who are like, yeah, sure, you would have an affair. Kim, for example. I'm like, yeah, I can see it.
00:12:23
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And I think I've said before that one times I stopped watching was when Paddy, David and Zach all had affairs in the space of a couple months. And I was not one of those people would have an affair. Yeah. Hashtag not all men. We've spoken about how Rona, her character is just quite like flexible plan depending on what they think the plot needs to happen.
00:12:42
Speaker
But it is like, she just wouldn't. like She wouldn't do that. She wouldn't look at Graham and be like, that's a better proposition than my actual lovely husband. Yeah.
00:12:53
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And ah I'm trying to think who else she's dated in the time. She she does have a relationship with Pete. you don't I probably don't know. Have you seen Pete Barton? ah Yeah, I've seen him in older episodes. She was with him for while. I don't know him personally. He was very, very boring, but also like very gym muscular in a way that feels quite different from her other types. No offence to Marlon or Andy Graham. And I can't remember who are she she's been with. Oh, Paddy she was with for quite a while.
Emotional Storylines and Character Backstories
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Again, it's quite a conveyor belt of men that she's um she's just like, that's a man.
00:13:30
Speaker
That's my type. Yeah. Yeah, and I mean, we don't shame people for that. but i just think it's confusing for her personally, being like, ooh, I'm attracted to him. Are you all all of them? Every single one of them? Yeah.
00:13:48
Speaker
Yeah, good times, I guess. unless we Yeah, she did once say her crush in the village was Kane. Yeah. yeah is I mean, is that just quite a nice nod to the fact that those actors have been married for many, many years? I think i think probably. Yeah, yeah that's quite sweet.
00:14:05
Speaker
Speaking of Kane, we've had him telling all manner of people about his cancer, which has been quite moving in the past a couple of weeks, and or three weeks. And it is it's got a little tricky for me to remember who he's told and who he hasn't and who he's told he's got just like good cancer and who he's not. Because Moira, as we learned a while ago seemed to buy very happily that he just had the sort of cancer he just goes away yeah the type where you sort of drink some water and it recedes it's just a 24-hour thing but yeah it's like a bug yeah uh but now he's been honest and um i don't want to jump the gun on best performance of the year and maybe too soon but but certainly best young performance of the year little isaac I know, he did so well. did so well. He's A, so cute, but B, also really good actor. I was so impressed by his scenes. Yeah, he was so sweet. And I thought it was really nice, like, just seeing him being taken care of by um sam and Lydia in a way that obviously, like, Kane's just got a lot of stuff going on and he's doing what he can. but And I know it would be quite a lot for him to adjust to living somewhere else. And there is...
00:15:18
Speaker
all manner of chaos in that house but i think it's so nice to see him yeah being looked after by other like adults who really care about him and yeah i really liked that scene yeah that was so nice and um yeah i'm i'm slightly annoyed by how like kane is reacting with everyone else because it's so predictable but also I guess he would the yeah pushing everyone away and it would be very like unbelievable if he suddenly turned into the kind of person who was like wow yeah I love this even like at the end of the episode like the two-hander with Charity
00:15:56
Speaker
um which I'm sure we'll come on to but like when by the end he was like you know what it is really good to talk about your feelings i was like Kane wouldn't say that no no no and he will not
Special Episode: Cain and Charity
00:16:08
Speaker
have learned anything from this he's not to be talking about those feelings again I think that Two Hander was the only special episode that I have thought was really good in all our many many many special episodes I did actually enjoy it. And realised halfway through, I was like, oh, I don't think we're getting any other characters. And is this going to be another really boring one? But um it wasn't.
00:16:29
Speaker
And even though I found it very uncomfortable when Cain propositioned her quite soon after talking about how they grew up together as cousins, um I did think it is quite good that they acknowledged that because that is a thing that happened. They, you know, were together together.
00:16:47
Speaker
Well, not just when they had Debbie. They were together for a good number of years. Not not continuously, but when I was started watching, or maybe a bit later, i'm going to say like around 2010, 11, 12, they were a couple. Oh, really? I did not know that. I thought it was just like when they had Debbie, but... um It's good that they acknowledge that because I think that is something that doesn't get talked about much and it was very strange.
00:17:09
Speaker
but And not technically illegal in this country. know, um But yeah, it had ah had a lot of heart to it and I think they are characters that really care about each other and yeah, it was good to see that sort of play out and the nod to Zach with that mug breaking and stuff and like maybe showing Kane how if he continues down this sort of pathway, there will be real consequences.
00:17:38
Speaker
Yeah, i was I did see in advance they were going a special episode, so obviously i was slightly dreading it. and But I did think Cain and Charity got a special episode together. What could happen? Surely, surely Charity is going to give birth.
00:17:53
Speaker
but But no. She will never give birth. That woman will never, ever give birth. And I think it's probably just that this is the only soap where we've known about the pregnancy from the moment it happened. And we're having like a blow by blow. This this is just how long people are pregnant for.
00:18:11
Speaker
but ah normally it gets like fast tracked. has been at least four weeks since she said she had two weeks left for her due date because that was ages ago really i i haven't been keeping track and that's in like human time not necessarily in emmerdale time but it's so i quickly google when she got pregnant that would sure um ah if we're not gonna edit i guess i'll fill the time by um well we did see her sort of do her little fake going into labour whilst trying to distract Jo in the episode that you loved so much. So that was quite fun. where she Well, she obviously didn't want him to call an ambulance because it wasn't real. But I guess you don't fit an ambulance if you're in labour. If there's any other way of you getting to the hospital, you just get to the go to the hospital.
00:18:56
Speaker
I did think it was quite convincing. I thought that she was in labour. Well, me too. It was only when she was so adamant that he shouldn't do anything that I was like,
00:19:07
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like are we sure but also joe's total ignorance about pregnancy like i've never been any around anyone going in labor but i know what crowning is like i watch tv yeah and you do also just think we should probably get you to hospital rather than you be like oh do you have to get in my car exactly yes but it was nice that he was uh willing to help i guess yeah true Okay, so apparently she was confirmed pregnant in August. So what would that be? September, October, November, December, January, February, March.
00:19:38
Speaker
i say like She's seven months pregnant. That can't be so. can't be. so it can't be Well, that's when she was confirmed pregnant. so we That was early, at like a few weeks. Yeah, okay. Because they it two weeks when you've ah had implanting of any variety.
00:19:58
Speaker
um Yeah, so we could have another sort of month or two of this pregnancy. my gosh. I Yeah,
Tracy's Departure and Future Speculations
00:20:06
Speaker
well, yeah, so it was a lovely episode. It was out of the blue, as you say, when he propositioned her. And I like, I think we've said many times that, I can't rename Emma something. is such Emma Atkins. Emma Atkins, such good actor. And I thought the way that she performed, like going with it, but making it clear to the audience that she wasn't really going with it.
00:20:26
Speaker
was was very impressive because yeah it was quite a fine line. didn't feel like Cain would not believe her in the moment, but it also didn't feel like we would believe she was actually going with it. Yeah, because I think if the audience really thought that she was going to go with it, that would have been catastrophic.
00:20:41
Speaker
Yeah. Also, a little mention of her marriage to Mac, who which seems to be neither here nor there most of the time. Yeah, and I did really want her to tell Cain about the baby and the baby and that it's probably Ross's and yeah I really thought that maybe at the end when he was like I'll always stand by you and like gave her that necklace and stuff and was like is there anything you need to say i really really wanted her just to be like yeah I'm really scared about maybe but obviously that will just play out in something dramatic instead but we have now got this I guess Chekhov's gun thing of like whenever i give you this necklace know that
00:21:24
Speaker
you can get help whenever whatever but clearly he's going to give she's going to give him back the necklace when the whole baby stuff comes out and be like kane i need you you made that promise yeah and it will be interesting interesting to see whether in that moment he's actually not able to deliver on the promise because you know he's delivering a cow baby or something yeah Or he's like drunk in a ditch because he's so sad about his life.
00:21:54
Speaker
Or maybe he'll come through and it'll be very heartwarming. Or just angry, who knows. but um yeah I also thought whilst we were on Kane's family, it was quite amusing when Tracy was like, oh I'm leaving. you want to say goodbye to your granddaughter? And he was like, who? Maybe. What are talking about? Maybe day. I don't know who that is. Sorry. He's never set eyes on Branky. He hasn't got a clue. It's just funny because when Nate went missing slash died, they like formed an alliance and they were suddenly working together and it was really great. And now he just doesn't care.
Humor in Farm-Centric Episode
00:22:23
Speaker
And yeah, Cara, who is Nate's mum, is giving Tracy a job in recruitment, which i can't imagine she's qualified for. Yeah. Yeah, didn't Kara sort of loathe her at the funeral and everything?
00:22:36
Speaker
I think they got, they they became friends again by text or something when they found out who actually killed. Yeah, I think she phoned her to let her know that they'd found the real killer and that's when they sort of reconciled. Yeah, that makes sense.
00:22:47
Speaker
I don't know what about her work ethic. It makes one, like we've seen her in the shop. She's not giving her all or even 10% that job. ye Yeah, truly not. um Wait, so is this Tracy being written out of the show or is she like?
00:23:02
Speaker
Oh, yes, for maternity leave. Oh, OK, sure. Yeah. when she's like, I don't know when I'll come back. It's like, I do. It's going to be year. I don't think I knew she was pregnant. Although now that I've said that, I think we have talked about it.
00:23:19
Speaker
Yeah. Although she's so sad I'm on screen. I definitely needed an exit storyline. but ah Oh, something I have been thinking about. It's Emma Atkins's favorite time of year because the blossom is out the blossoms out and she loves to post photos of blossom on her instagram account it's our favorite thing it's our favorite thing that she is like moisturized and unbothered she's just like in her lane yeah show me that cherry blossom and we i think we've said it on here before i like sort of in my head role playing the conversations he's having with the pr team being like charity's got a big story this week could you like
00:23:54
Speaker
pop a little photo of the interview and she's like do you mean this picture of cherry blossom because that's that's what i'm doing yeah it's implied that i think people will read between the lines and we love it she seems like such a triage yeah i know what treat what treat maybe we'll meet her on our tour oh my gosh i can't i don't know why she'd do it but just maybe just because she's a nice person yeah i'm afraid i did see that dawn did it the other day so we're probably not going to meet dawn yeah I think you told me that yeah that's fine that's fine uh speaking of um Tracy there's a thing where i quite enjoyed the scene where Tracy was pretending she and Billy were going on a date because and um and Vanessa was I would say 0 to 60 in three seconds on that one she was very very yeah that was crazy actually and I think
00:24:51
Speaker
The character of Tracy, like, where is that going now? Because she doesn't really have any links in the village. It's become apparent she's... Vanessa, mean? Yes, sorry,
Potential Romance: Ross and Gabby, is it plausible?
00:25:02
Speaker
Like, she's obviously not going to get back together with Charity now, which was, like, the big rumour. Even though she is the best that Charity's ever had, apparently. Yeah, know. And good for her.
00:25:15
Speaker
Yeah, so with Tracy leaving, you're like, where's that going for Vanessa? What's she up to? Other than like jumping to conclusions about Billy, I guess. Maybe she'll get together with Billy. Who knows? She is a lesbian. but um Maybe not.
00:25:32
Speaker
Yeah. um Well, obviously i concocted that big storyline with the counsellor person who was there for one episode, but that does seem not to be coming to fruition. um Yeah, it's tricky. And I think I wrote on some Reddit thread, it's mad to me that they killed off Leila and not Vanessa. Like, why? Why?
00:25:50
Speaker
Because ah we we like, well, i certainly I like Vanessa. I think you like Vanessa. she I think she's fine, but she doesn't really do much. She doesn't do much. and She's never done masses, to be honest. she Because you know if you're not a dingle or married to a dingle, it does put you on the periphery. So I guess when she was with Charity, it was her big like time in the sun. but Maybe she needs to pick a fight with the dingles and then she will get more airtime. Yeah, or have some unlikely relationship with like Kim.
00:26:15
Speaker
That could get her into home farm. why not? Why doesn't she just go out with Mary? Come on, come on. Not that Mary's a... No, Mary's not a dingle. sort of like included by Rona being married to Marlon although maybe Marlon and her will fizzle and then yeah the way they do use the word term family does seem to include anyone who's ever like glanced at a dingle so maybe Vanessa's family from that maybe yeah i mean on the one hand I really like that the show tends to keep long-term cast members in but it does end up with the way to the threes yeah
00:26:54
Speaker
I mean, yeah, i mean Billy is also a way for the stray. um Yeah, who, you know, why why won't why wouldn't you date Tracy? It be lovely, but but no, it's not going to happen. Yeah. um Shall we talk about the episode that you love so much, the cow rustling?
00:27:12
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. i at first, when I saw cows being rustled, thought, oh, here we go again, I can't be bothered. um But it was actually really fun, wasn't it?
00:27:26
Speaker
Yeah, was. it felt like so much of what we have been really wanting from Emmerdale for a really long time of like, Obviously farming content we love.
00:27:39
Speaker
um But people coming together, people having fun, a bit of sort of classic misdirection, a lot of Ross content, Joe being sort of humiliated.
00:27:51
Speaker
we love to see him get his camuffins, absolutely. The Dingle's coming out on top and the Dingle's teaming up with kind of the Barton-Robron farm, which...
Arthur's Struggles and Family Impact
00:28:03
Speaker
he they admittedly didn't know they were in collaboration with and I thought it it was kind of unclear whether they were actually going to split the profits originally or whether it was just because they found out first yeah because it's not super on brand for Kane to be like sure i'll have that first time I'm beefing with at the moment but yeah maybe sorry pun not intended know was going to say well well done yeah to me cows are more than just beef and it did It did at one point become like an infomercial for a tracking app. but It was i did feel like SponCon. Yeah. You can track it on your phone here. Bulls don't have trackers on.
00:28:41
Speaker
Do they not? Like, I don't think so. like Why have we not got your your housemate to tell us this? Because she's sleeping at the farm right now. It's lambing. um ok Yeah, I really don't think.
00:28:57
Speaker
certainly that the farm Anna works on puts trackers on their bulls. Maybe they should. Well, sorry, we shouldn't say that too much in case people will listen to this and go and steal their cattle. Yeah, true. free-for-all over there.
00:29:09
Speaker
But, like, I mean, there is a really advanced security system out the farm. Like, you can't get in. as They literally employ a man full-time to, like, wow only admit certain people.
00:29:22
Speaker
So, yeah, i get I sort of got that they could sequester the bull, but... What was their plan for the whole cattle of a whole field of other cattle? To stick them in just a random field for a bit and then sell them to someone? Or then are they their cows now?
00:29:36
Speaker
don't know. It's quite hard to conceal cows. And yeah, I was like, one of the things that's so difficult about setting up this farm is that they need cows and that they don't have them.
00:29:54
Speaker
So if you are going to steal them, would you not just keep them for yourself? Yeah, i mean, they also don't have land. So Sam did find them some land somewhere else. or
Kim's Comedic Role and Interactions
00:30:03
Speaker
Yeah, Sam managed to find some land and Cain didn't seem to care, even though that was the only thing they needed. So that was difficult.
00:30:11
Speaker
Yeah. But also, if they're getting cows, they'll need like a dairy and they'll need, i guess you can use someone else's abattoir or something, but they... Yeah, they need some farming equipment. At the moment, they've just got a bunch of cows in someone else's field. Oh, I see. Yeah.
00:30:29
Speaker
Wait, no. Can commercial dairies? I thought they sold the whole herd. Didn't they sell the whole Oh, did they sell them? Because they sold that... Obviously, they sold the bull to that creepy man, but maybe they sold the herd to someone else as Yeah, I don't know. I mean, think they'd be farming rather than dairy farming, they don't need a dairy.
00:30:45
Speaker
um Well, as any hands there's only one bull. Do they do they not mostly... get beef from males is that not i don't know how it works uh from either i think but as in like you can just milk cow yourself i suppose they could just do that one by one you've got nothing else going on yeah running a wedding business yeah and i mean i'm pretty sure yeah if you're like a milk
00:31:16
Speaker
A dairy farm, then you have to like be milking them all the time and you probably would invest in like the machinery that would do that. Whereas if you're a beef farm, they just like produce milk when they've got a calf and so the calf is getting the milk and then they are not producing the milk anymore when they're not like with a calf.
00:31:35
Speaker
Well, I think it's fair to say that they've not thought it all through. And like, presumably you need some sort of insurance that would be quite hard to get on on things if a whole business plan is to steal from other people. That is also true. Yeah. I mean, you would at least need a barn.
00:31:49
Speaker
Yes. And there, you know, there are some, yeah some out of buildings famously, I it was a house actually, wasn't it? Where Belle stuck an axe into Tom, but. Gosh, yeah. So true.
Graham's Mysterious Persona
00:32:01
Speaker
that the caves moving or something? Well, into that barn. Went to that house when they kept talking about... I don't know. I really loved seeing Belle like going... That guy... What was I trying to say? Oh yeah, when the guy comes to like get the bull and then tries to fleece her and she's just like having absolutely none of it. And I was like, Belle is so back.
00:32:24
Speaker
And I love her. Belle's back. She's feisty again. yeah that was fun. So yeah, was a good episode. And we actually say lots of Ross. um I really enjoyed... when Ross was with Dawn and Gabby, you referred to them as the fun ones.
00:32:40
Speaker
good Yeah, no, I really liked Ross. Ross has just been like a real light in a dark place over the last little while. Like lots of fun comments, lots of silliness. And that's what we've been asking for.
00:32:55
Speaker
yeah And at what point Ross and Gabby almost kissed. Yeah. I think we are teeing up for a Ross Gabby romance. Well, it felt like we were in the middle of it. It's like one those things that maybe they've been dropping hints that we've somehow passed pass by or are we going to discover they've been secretly dating for weeks? No, I think he just sort of walked into the house and she suddenly realised she was enamoured with him.
00:33:17
Speaker
He did refer to himself as being in overalls, which he was not, which was an interesting costume choice. Yeah, thought that as well. was like, you are in a small vest, actually. Yeah, the costume designers were like, overalls could be cute, but also have you considered showing your arms? Yeah.
00:33:32
Speaker
because when he first came back in that street fighting storyline, they couldn't put as little a little of clothes on him. Yeah, I know. He was just constantly in a vest. Yeah, or or less. Whereas ah I guess now it's getting a bit warmer. Although I guess they filmed that quite cold weather.
00:33:49
Speaker
Yeah, i am I am confused by the Ross Gabby thing. and Unless maybe they're going to get together. And then when Steph gets back, she sees them together and is like, oh, I'm sad.
00:34:01
Speaker
That's true. We could have a little love triangle there. Because i I suggested a different love triangle in my predictions, but I can't remember the ah who the person was with Ross and Steph. Was it Manpreet? Because you're obsessed with her. It seems like something I'd say, doesn't it? Because I was thinking that Gabby and Billy would be quite good together.
00:34:19
Speaker
I can see it Although i think I prefer Ross and Gabby. She needs someone a bit fun. Billy's not known for being fun. Yeah, Billy's not known for sort of having a personality, unfortunately. yeah quite a lot of background noise from your sort of microphone drama that's going on right now i'm so sorry my cat is very much in the way and it wants to be on the microphone so can you apologize for everyone he is obsessed with the microphone and you might be able to hear him purring soon he is purring quite loudly sweet sweet boy um
00:34:52
Speaker
Yeah, Billy also, like, we love stepfathers. We love the other fathers who stepped up, but Billy has enough stepchildren already. he's gonna get It's going to be too much for him to deal with. It's too much for his roster.
Future Plot Predictions and Emotional Arcs
00:35:05
Speaker
so true. And whilst Thomas isn't often centre a stage in Emmerdale, he does exist. It would be an interesting transition, I think, that, like, for Gabby and Vinny to have both moved on comparatively quickly from each other to people who are very different.
00:35:21
Speaker
That's true. Vinny is now with a man and Gabby is now with Ross, who is a very different shape of man to Vinny. Yes, in both metaphorical and literal senses.
00:35:34
Speaker
So, yeah, interesting.
00:35:38
Speaker
m This is going back a bit, if's jumping all over the place as per, but it was more towards the beginning of this block. We had quite dizzying set of storylines for Arthur.
00:35:50
Speaker
gosh i totally forgot about all of that yeah and i think it was since the last episode that he pushed laurel down and she went to hospital and then lied that she didn't remember it was him etc and then maybe we knew oh yeah no i think you're right yeah or maybe she'd hit up but the rest of it i can't remember but yeah i well i did enjoy um Nicola being so angry when she found out, that she was so forgiving of Laurel deliberately hitting Arthur and so unforgiving of Arthur accidentally knocking her out.
00:36:23
Speaker
Yeah, I think maybe we did talk about that, but I can't remember. But yeah, it was it was a lot for Arthur. And then he was going to move to Australia and then he didn't move to Australia. And then he decided to lie to the police and then he couldn't lie to the police. And you just think like, wow, you're doing a lot, but also not doing anything. Yeah, so nothing at all. But he was also going to move to Manchester to join a startup at one point.
00:36:47
Speaker
and much ah Much like Tracy's total lack of suitability to work in recruitment, asking what startup is going to glance at Arthur and be like, you know what? That's the set of skills and personality we need. Yeah, with our limited budget. Because isn't he still at school? as he had finished I maybe know don't know. true What qualifications does he have?
00:37:11
Speaker
i guess he's got quite good hair. agree to disagree as mentioned to you I think he looks like Doc Cotton yeah it is baffling
Conclusion and Listener Engagement
00:37:26
Speaker
the whole thing isn't it and Laura was just like sure that seems like something that would have happened I didn't know you were for jobs but well done you and then she was like I'm so so proud of you for moving to Manchester then he had to be like no I'm not moving to Manchester
00:37:42
Speaker
It was all actually a vicious lie. Yeah. and because I did think he was being written out, but no, probably not. No, you got your hopes up. I've got nothing against Arthur. I think he's very nice. I just thought you hated him.
00:37:56
Speaker
No, I just hate his glasses. okay You can love a man and hate the glasses. ah Yeah, i I would like him to have some sort of consistent personality ah and some sort of direction with the character.
00:38:16
Speaker
But name we can't have everything we want. We really can't. Yeah, Laurel does need a little bit of consistency in her horrible fluctuating life. So it'd be nice if Arthur could provide something of that.
00:38:28
Speaker
Yeah. And then she was talking about how she doesn't know how to parent him when he's whatever age. and She's saying, if you've got a four year old, you just if they if they know you, just take away their tablet. It's like, why is a four year old got tablet? I know. I thought that was crazy.
00:38:41
Speaker
And also, like, was that the case when Arthur was four? Surely not. Did tablets even exist then? Well, probably yes. but Actually, yeah, it was like 2012. Never mind. no i take it back.
00:38:53
Speaker
Suddenly when I was four, the Berlin Wall was coming down, so it's it's a different world. it um What year did the Berlin Wall come down? 89.
00:39:05
Speaker
Wow. When I was four, what was happening in 1997? Well, Princess Diana died, I guess. Oh, gosh. Yeah, I mean, both those things are true. i don' We're not implicating the Spice Girls in Princess Diana's death, want to be very clear about that.
00:39:22
Speaker
We're not saying they weren't involved. We're not saying they were involved. yes I would neither confirm nor deny. Yeah. yeah So, yeah, Kim.
00:39:35
Speaker
I enjoyed Kim. I don't know. Oh yeah, Kim. We weren't talking about Kim. But Kim's like softening with various female cast members I've enjoyed. Although one of them did turn out to be fake.
00:39:45
Speaker
so I know. I was sad that that was fake. That was my one down point in that episode because I thought that that was quite a fun, unlikely friendship. Yeah, and i really wanted there to be a line at the end where Chaz was like, oh, but I did really enjoy it or or something. nothing It just seemed really mean to like make her vulnerable and get her drunk and it all just a ploy. Yeah, literally.
00:40:06
Speaker
That really got me. Whereas the conversation she had with Moira in prison was quite touching. When she was like, Holly's buried there and she like, you'll always be able to visit Holly. was sweet. Yeah, that was quite touching.
00:40:17
Speaker
One of my observations, which I think I also saw someone say on Reddit was people sober up very quickly. Like Kim was like literally unable to walk down the stairs. And then as soon as she realized the situation, she was like snapped out of it.
00:40:31
Speaker
It's so true. And I've never been drunk, so I can't really picture how long it takes to sober up. But I suspect for a woman of Kim's years, probably four weeks.
00:40:45
Speaker
Yeah, I just think like that wouldn't have happened. But sure, whatever. It's a soap. And as mentioned, one of her favourite activities is getting stranded in farmland with a dodgy leg, which she did again this week. when she yeah did she fall over or fall off a horse? I can't remember if she was on a horse or not. No, she was just walking and seemed to sort of twist her ankle a bit, but then said, this knee. ah Referred pain is a real condition.
00:41:11
Speaker
but um and then who didn't give her a lift? Joe? ah Rob, no, what's his name? Ross. Like, what is Ross doing at Home Farm? Like, Kim is obviously, he's like operations manager or something like that, director of operations. And I don't know why Kim, there must be a reason that Kim has employed him.
00:41:36
Speaker
And like, is she she's trying to test the other people or she's trying to like ah find out what they're talking about behind her back or something. Was it just to annoy Joe? I don't know Maybe. Yeah, maybe it's just to get Joe's back up and it does seem to be working.
00:41:52
Speaker
But it was just to engineer the Ross Gabby situation. Yeah, Maybe. It is confusing, but I am enjoying Ross in general. um have Have he and Dawn had history? Because a couple of things he said, I was like, this feels quite loaded. Yes, I'm pretty sure they were, not as I was watching, but i think we think they were together ah one point. Okay, that makes sense. My only real down point on Ross was when he said um it might come as a surprise to you, Dawn, that not everything is about sex, which is quite pointed to say to someone who's like openly spoken about her trauma from being a sex worker.
00:42:32
Speaker
yeah that's on the nose, isn't it? Yeah. But I will say for Dawn is that she does have a type, you know, Joe, Billy, Ross. muscular attractive men in their 30s is her thing and well done her for sticking to her guns on that one she will not waver um but yeah i've really been enjoying ross just sort of like cutting through the quite weird like formal vibes at home farm like breaking the fourth wall and just like being a bit silly calling graham the penguin yes had so many good lines you're gonna set the penguin on me yeah i mean it's one of those things where
00:43:10
Speaker
In small doses, love In large doses, it sort of brings down the whole facade of what Emmerdale is. True. You know, I'm up for that too. He's just, yeah, when he came in, he was quite like an angsty, dramatic character. And I like how he's become, like he's still got that side to him, but he's like a comic character now, largely, which I love. And he's, yeah, as talked about before, he's so good at like the emotional scenes, the funny scenes, the dramatic scenes, like more of it, more of it. We love that.
00:43:38
Speaker
Yeah, I'm very intrigued to see where it all goes. I guess we'll find out. I guess we will. um i think I'm on, I've got quite a few straight strays, but I think I'm down to strays. Well, we haven't really spoken about the sort of like Paddy Mandy, Dylan stuff, but I'm not, I don't really have anything to say about it other than i really enjoyed the nice like father-son kind of stuff with Aaron talking to Dylan about how great Paddy is basically being like don't lose him yeah I made no notes at all about any of them because I'm over it all but I did it's funny know Aaron has become the person because we've had it with Ruby we've had it with Bear and now i we've had it with Dylan where he just goes and is like has an emotional heart to heart where in a sort of quite tough guy way he's like look there's good people they're here for you
00:44:29
Speaker
yeah and bless him every time he has to be like my dad raped me every single time it's like poor Aaron having to like go through that every time you have to dredge it up just so people listen to you yeah I feel like I've got my what's the word I want don't know yeah I can but back up what I'm saying I've not lived a charmed life yeah but yeah good for him I that's sort want to say about it yeah I mean somehow Graham found him I don't know like He seems to have a very special set of skills that doesn't involve anything on camera, but he's very good off camera.
00:45:05
Speaker
Yeah, could he have somehow laid down very, very still and that helped him find Dylan? Dylan mistook him for a tree and just sat down on him. like And here you are. Yeah, it's as good a plan as any, isn't it? And then apparently you can bribe the post office. That's the thing. I did feel like we were...
00:45:27
Speaker
im tarnishing the good name of the Royal Mail, which has not had the best name. Well, no, post office and Royal Mail are different things, aren't they? but Yeah, they are. But I guess it was post office he was going to rather Royal Mail. So post offices, they can't really sue for PR of because you have to have a good reputation before you're allowed to do that. Not at this stage.
00:45:45
Speaker
Yeah, so true. um Yeah, other than that, I'm probably just down to strays. I guess we haven't spoken about the sort of like Eric, Kerry, Jay plotline. but Oh gosh, you're right. That The main thing I needed from that is how translucent to the point of transparent the office doors are. that you hear Ray and Jay are having That's what I was saying. The glass is just not very obscured. like Everybody will be able to see what's going on.
00:46:10
Speaker
If I were making this story, I'd have at least popped a curtain up first before I went yeah full tilt into it. It is crazy. And I have been feeling quite sorry for Eric, like when he like has definitely realised what's going on and they're not telling him. And I think that's really bad. Although she did try to and he wouldn't let her. that was quite confusing.
00:46:30
Speaker
Yeah, that's also true. Yeah, he did put the effort. She did put the effort in eventually. And yeah, I would love to know whether Eric always walks into the house and says, hello, house. Because at first I thought that he was like, I know they're probably upstairs together. so I'm going to make it obvious that I've come home. So he walks in and it is like, hello house.
00:46:51
Speaker
But then as time goes on and he like discovers their underwear downstairs, I was like, oh, you actually didn't know. So I guess that's just something you say when you walk in. That's nice. Maybe we should all take it up.
00:47:03
Speaker
Yeah, it's a sweet touch. I do send it say hello to my cat. to Someone I'm saying hello to. Yeah, I mean, if there's a person in my house when I get home, I do tend to say hello to them, but maybe I should be greeting our it's the building itself. um And i think I thought it was nice, Mary and Eric, like, being friends and her, like, giving him some home truths about how he should just talk to Kerry rather than put a tracker thing on her, like a bull.
00:47:31
Speaker
That's true. It's yet more tracking content. Yeah, so much. i suppose It's more of an alarm than a tracker, but... That's true. i feel like it's a third tracker, but maybe I've misremembered that. Don't know.
00:47:46
Speaker
Okay. One of my strays, Lewis made matcha hummus. What? When wast thou it was I think it was in a sandwich he gave someone. He was like, because they didn't even order it. He's like, i tried to match i've I've experimented matcha hummus in that one.
00:48:01
Speaker
Like, no one wants matcha hummus. And if they do, they want it as, like, unasked for. um So it's a bold move. it does sound I mean, I don't like matcha at the best of times, to be honest, but it sounds gross.
00:48:12
Speaker
Yeah, that sounds like the worst thing I've ever had. um Also, yeah, how would you not be sort of riddled with anxiety if you're doing that? Like, if people are paying for your food and then you give them different food, that would be so scary.
00:48:27
Speaker
in a cafe that traditionally is served, people like Jimmy... hey yeah No one wants your matcha hummus. No one. But how do you even go about doing that? I dread to think. Is he making hummus or has he just bought hummus and put matcha in it? I think the latter, unfortunately. And it's not that hard to make hummus. I make it all the time.
00:48:49
Speaker
hey gee I've only made it once and it was so much worse than shop bought hummus. I was like, I'm never doing this again. Oh, really? I think it's quite nice because you can sort of just like put in the amount that you want of all the ingredients until it tastes great.
00:49:01
Speaker
Yeah, I guess I didn't do that. Yeah, it's a shame. You could have a take too sometime. Yeah, I think it's when I'm making it at home, you're conscious of how much oil you put tahini instead of oil, don't you? Do have oil as well? I can't remember. ah Sometimes if it needs it.
00:49:15
Speaker
If it needs it This was more than 20 years ago, I think. So maybe it's time for another one. You can regroup. maybe Maybe I'll make matcha hummus. Maybe I'll be inspired by something I thought sounds horrible. Yeah, I think that sounds terrible.
00:49:31
Speaker
Should we make someone take it to the tour? It's like souvenirs. Maybe. I'm so distracted because I think Bradley Richards is walking down my road. Are you kidding? like It's actually him.
00:49:43
Speaker
Oh no, he's got closer now. No, it's not him. A guy who looks a lot like Bradley Richards was just walking down my road. That could have been a huge coup. That could have been huge. I have actually um got a ticket to see Bradley Richards being interviewed by Lisa Riley about his new book.
00:49:58
Speaker
That's exciting. Yeah. um But then it is... unfortunately a weekend when our friend Sam Mitchell is staying um so I do need to tell him that I can't actually hang out with him on the Friday night or at least not for all of the Friday nights maybe he'll want to go with you maybe he will maybe he definitely won't but I will ask him um yeah and I'm hoping that you can get like some podcast content somehow out of it yeah I don't really know but I'll definitely take photos who if there's a Q&A just be like
00:50:33
Speaker
What do you think of the Dingle All The Way podcast? Have you heard of us? Maybe pretend you're a fan of the podcast. not admit you part of it I think that could backfire when if anybody there is like, oh yeah, that's hosted by this girl called Lizzie. I'll be like, yeah.
00:50:50
Speaker
That's also my name. But you have to put on a funny accent so people don't cross over. Yeah, so true. I think it sounds like it might be more trouble than it's worth. Yeah, yeah well, with that attitude.
00:51:01
Speaker
and ah Speaking of ordering things, I did make note that Belle ordered tea in the pub at one point. And look, I've had tea in the pub before, but not when I'm next door to a cafe and then next door to somewhere else that sells coffee. me Yeah, that is quite random from her, isn't it? too have probably ordered a hot drink in a pub before, but yeah, you kind of know it's not going to be the best hot drink you've ever had as well.
00:51:25
Speaker
And that they don't want to do it. They are upset about it. Yeah, they do hate you for That is a shame. It's sad to be hated. It is sad to be hated. There's one pub I used to go to every week for a pub quiz and the the landlord used to literally just turn the kettle on as we walked in because they were all going to order tea. It's like, yeah, we are. Yeah, that's so annoying. Yeah, he did despise us, but in quite a fun way.
00:51:53
Speaker
What stories have you got? Oh, loads to be fair. One of them is the episode description for Friday the 20th just says, Isaac is upset his dad will die of cancer.
00:52:06
Speaker
Is that spoiler for the future? I think that was more of a mistake than a spoiler a alert. but His dad is definitely going to die. His dad will die of cancer.
00:52:16
Speaker
I feel very confident he won't die of cancer. Yeah, I feel like 100% sure that they won't be killing Cain Dingle off. But yeah, the ah one of the things I wrote down was that Matty really didn't take much convincing to still live at Butler's Farm.
00:52:31
Speaker
That's true. When it was first offered to him, he was just like, I could never. Also, i hate you. And then kind of within 30 seconds, Cain was like, well, you could.
00:52:43
Speaker
And then he was like, oh, yeah, I could. You're so right. I will live here. I'm going to unpack all my stuff from the van. When you put it like that, actually. That's such a compelling argument. It's like, I don't know, nobody wants to live with Matty, so everyone's just desperately trying to get him somewhere else.
00:53:00
Speaker
Poor Matty. Could you imagine so so setting up somewhere with your husband and being like, oh, also this random other person lives here who we don't particularly like and who openly hates us? Because they were like, wow, we can finally start a new life together. This is all we've ever hoped and dreamed.
00:53:16
Speaker
And now it's like, and also a man we don't particularly know lives here. who And I wonder what's happened to their previous flat. i can't I don't know if they were renting or if Aaron owned that. but Yeah, I don't know. Maybe Graham can move in there.
00:53:30
Speaker
Oh yeah, I bet he'd love all the banisters. Oh my gosh, you can see him just lurking by a banister, can't you? Yeah, looming over it. He'd do that in his spare time, for sure. Have you got another stray?
00:53:42
Speaker
um i thought it was funny when Kim was, I don't remember why she said this, but it was talking about Dawn having a flinty look at Take of Out. And I was thinking, like why why you have to be like a hard-nosed businesswoman when you're like a arranging someone's wedding? That's the last thing you want. You might need to take a tough turn over like the phone with someone if you're booking something, but a flinty look implies in person.
00:54:03
Speaker
So if someone comes in and was like, we'd love to arrange our wedding. she's like, huh? Would you? With me? Why? She was also drinking whiskey at that point and it was breakfast. it like I was like, is whiskey really a morning drink? Are we sure?
00:54:18
Speaker
Is everything okay? Answer no, obviously. um Yeah. I think Dawn has really like morphed herself into this, like, like, especially when she was telling Ross about how she doesn't need Jo's money. She was like, I'm a businesswoman. I do this and this. It's like,
00:54:35
Speaker
You never set foot at Take A Bow. You have never done anything there. You just sometimes wander around with a clipboard. That's true. Yeah. Poor Dawn. she she All she does is let herself in and out of that kitchen.
00:54:48
Speaker
Truly. But she does look great all the time. she's yeah She's had a steady glow up. The healthier Ethan gets, the more she's allowed to brush at her. think his name is Evan. Sure.
00:55:02
Speaker
I've never seen the boy. Never taken him in. um We spoke a bit about... Oh, no, maybe we didn't speak yet about Cammy. I'm going to speak about Cammy. We haven't, no. I think it's been fun that he's been hanging out at Wishing Well. I don't really know how likely that actually would be that he is hanging out there unless he's going maybe get back together with Belle. um But I thought it was nice to see him there and...
00:55:29
Speaker
um He's had one year Emmerdale now, apparently. He did a little Instagram thing for it, didn't he? Yeah. And I think what a great year it's been having him around. My biggest question, really, I suppose, is why he turned up at Wishing Well Cottage asking for his pay slips.
00:55:52
Speaker
Oh, from the garage? Yeah. Well, yeah, like, does anyone do physical? I've never had a physical payslip in my life. Have you? and Haven't you? I haven't for many years, but OUP, when I worked there, I did for most of the time I was there. So I guess 2016 was the last time I had one. But yeah, used to. What do they do? I get emailed my payslip and I don't think I've ever looked at it. I'm just like, I've got money.
00:56:15
Speaker
They were always like, analyze everything. It's like, I don't know what I'm owed. I'm just going assume it's fine. I don't know what any of it means. um And I don't know if Cami would. Like, surely Cami would just be like, can I be paid? Like, what's the payslip for? Although, having said that, I haven't seen, like, a computer system in the garage. So are they doing everything by paper? Yeah, true. If anybody is still doing everything on paper, it will be Cain.
00:56:40
Speaker
And no one seems to, like, book anything in the garage. They to sort of turn up and say, like, can you ever look at my car? as Yeah, they just, like, drop their car off and hope for the best. Often if they're like passing through, it's like, why are you passing through this village? Where on earth are you on the way to? But yeah, I'm grateful that Cammy has been in the village for a year. What year it's been.
00:57:00
Speaker
What a year, a year of Cammy we're all thankful for. I did notice, and I'm sorry to say that he was eating during daylight in Ramadan this time. So it does seem like Ramadan has passed him by this year, but which is a shame.
00:57:13
Speaker
Yeah, that is a shame because I did enjoy hearing about his Ramadan last year. could have learned into that more, but oh well. I guess they're filming such a long way ahead they probably forgot what date it was meant to be going out or something, I don't know. Yeah, maybe. Have you got any more strays?
00:57:30
Speaker
um Just a great line from Lydia to Rona re-Graham. If either of you had nits, you'd both be infested. was sad.
00:57:40
Speaker
Lydia's saying it like it is. Yeah, i like that. Yeah, they have been cosy. There have just been some great lines. The scriptwriters have been upping their game recently. It's been great great. I really enjoyed Ross ordering a scotch on the rocks with ice. That was great. And the little look he got. Yeah, so good. Yeah. um I don't think I've got much else to say other than Joe's hair length seems quite variable at the moment. And he looks a lot younger with longer hair. don't know if you've noticed that.
00:58:11
Speaker
Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I guess he's got over old kidney disease and he's got a new lease of Yeah, i don't I don't really like it. I feel like it's kind of feeding into his like petulant child act. Whereas before, when he had a shaved head, he was a bit more like, you're a villain rather than you're immature and you need to get over it.
00:58:28
Speaker
That's true. He has been quite like sulky and stammer recently. And I think it's the hair makes him look like you think what it is younger. Yeah. um Yeah. Well, I'm sorry that you've gone off him, but um I've just got a couple more things, both about Robert, actually.
00:58:45
Speaker
ah Where Robert said, I love the way that Robert said to Joe, just for the record, i hate you, which is what you want to hear in any business transaction. Yeah.
00:58:55
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And then I can't even remember why Robert and Aaron fell out, but Robert said, I don't want to spend another night on the city. And Aaron said, me neither, which made it sound like they were both on the city. just like why you This isn't proven to point. You've just relocated. Yeah, it doesn't sound like you're trying to get distance. It sounds like you've just maybe gone camping in your own home. And, you know, why not, I suppose.
00:59:18
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Now you've got endless numbers of rooms compared to what you previously had. Yeah, you can choose like a city wherever you want. Yeah. um Actually, I did do one more. I wrote down. um don't know what I meant by this, but it's like maybe Graham has got his post back because he is a ghost.
00:59:36
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but I also don't know what you meant by that. I think it'd be a good twist if we later learn that he's been a ghost whole time. Yes. Imagine if he is truly dead and he's just a mist.
00:59:48
Speaker
It's just a mist, like my long-held hopes to be. but um I don't think people all know that, but I always say want to be a mist. No further questions. I will not be taking any questions at this time. That would be very Sunset Beach. Did you ever see any of Sunset Beach? I don't know what that is.
01:00:06
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It was this very over-the-top American soap, maybe early which had... Like it was a soap, but also had like haunted emeralds and people coming back from the dead, literally rather than just metaphorta like pretending they were dead and all sorts of things.
01:00:21
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But that'd be a fun twist. A fun little twist. Something to consider. if the If the writers are listening, consider making Graham the ghost the whole time. That would be much more fun and would hopefully stop Rona from having an affair with him. Well, you never know. She doesn't have a type. So we don't know. Maybe ghosts are on the roster as well. Living or dead. That's just fine. Yeah.
01:00:45
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Well, anyway, what a place to land. But um is rona necrophiliac, discuss? Oh, I don't like that. No, I'm sorry. Sorry for saying it.
01:00:56
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I guess we don't need to do the farming content thing because it has just been water wool farming content. We've mostly talked about farming, but we do have to do our random name generator. We do you have to do random name generator. We simply must. And the person we're talking about is Caleb.
01:01:09
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Oh, yeah, we haven't seen loads of him recently, have we? He seems... So sometimes turn up at the, whatever it's called, haulage. Factory thing. They call it the factory, don't they? I didn't know. What does it actually mean? No, they don't call it that because it doesn't produce anything. They just distribute things. Oh, it used to be a factory. That's right. Caleb Milligan.
01:01:28
Speaker
Warehouses? It's got a name. What's the company called? Distribution? What are they distributing? Does anything? Dead bodies largely, it seems. I think they're like 3PL. I don't know. don't know what that is. it sounds like a 90s pop group.
01:01:43
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Third party logistics. when you like If you're a company that sells products and you want to like basically outsource all of the like packaging and that kind of stuff. You'll employ a third party. Do you just abbreviate third party logistics? Why did you think I'd know what that was? Sorry. It's just, I guess, from my job.
01:02:03
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Wow. and But yeah, he's I think we agreed that his like highlight was during Ruby's storyline when she revealed about historic sexual abuse and that he was so good in that story. yeah,
01:02:17
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yeah I think he's a great actor. I like that he does some good comedy stuff. um with ruby particularly i was also doing a lot of dramatic stuff and then yeah it's interesting having him like on the peripheries of the dingles where sometimes it feels like he's a dingle and sometimes it feels like he's the nemesis of the dingles yeah i think he is like kind because he's is he kayla is he kane's half brother yes faith is yeah faith is their mom yeah so i feel like he's kind of I don't know. Yeah, he is on the periphery a bit more. And when it's like, your family, you stand by us, it that's they play on that card. But when he's not needed...
01:02:58
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either for help or for disdain he's a millican
01:03:05
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yeah um i never we never really saw him with nikki i did for like two weeks or or you know you suppose you did for like two weeks whatever before nikki left but um yeah it seemed tempestuous at best because i think originally it was just the two of them before where was ruby where was ruby I think they were estranged despite the fact they have all these things about how they've been in love since they were 15 whatever. but Okay, interesting news.
01:03:30
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i love Ruby. I can't imagine Caleb without Ruby. No, I mean, I don't know if I'd want to be married to in real life. She does seem quite tiring, but I do love her as a character. Yeah, I obviously would not want to be in a relationship with Ruby, but to be her best friend I think would be really fun yes um more of the human pre-Ruby friendship please yeah where's that gone where's that gone i think the only times I don't like Caleb is when he's being too horrible to Jay like when he stole all of Jay's money and I know Jay sort of got his revenge in some way I forget but that did feel a little over the top where he like I've tricked you out of all your money and you're not and now you're like some sort of errand boy at this company I actually totally forgot that that happened at all
01:04:12
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That was quite quite bad. And then I think it was because Jay knew something about Anthony or knew something meant that he managed to become whatever position he is currently in and got some, I think he got some money back and stuff as well. Maybe the writers realised they'd gone too far in belittling Jay. but Yeah, maybe.
01:04:29
Speaker
And heaven knows we're not Jay fans, but it was still it was still too much. Still pretty nasty. Yeah, I think Caleb is a character who can tip over into being like, just a bit too nasty and there are consequences for that and like when he sent Anya away like that didn't need to happen could have done it different way and the usual thing we have like does Caleb have any friends not really just his wife yeah I don't think he has any friends I'd love him to have like an unusual friendship with like Mandy or something that would fun yeah I don't see it with Mandy but maybe with Paddy
01:05:07
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Paddy's doing a lot of heavy lifting for everyone else's emotional well-being, isn't he Yeah, he's got a lot on his plate. And he's maybe going to prison. Yeah. I feel like Caleb would be good friends with woman. That just seems the vibe I get from him. Maybe like a Vanessa or a Rona or someone who'd be like... I don't know. Maybe Mary. Maybe Mary. Because I feel like with man, he's always competitively masculine with them. Always has to put them in their place where the woman would be better at being friends.
01:05:35
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I want them to be friends with Mary. That's who I'm landing on. Yeah, i like that. ah she Because she would take no nonsense. But, you know, would be pretty fun. Mary and Caleb are friends. make them There's our sales pitch.
01:05:49
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Well, there we go Thanks so much for listening, everyone. And for bearing with us as we do sort of random scheduling. But we I think we'll back in two weeks' time. Can't see why not. ah Yeah, probably.
01:06:01
Speaker
Sure. I think that's just before I go away for a while. Of course it is. Sounds good.
01:06:08
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01:06:28
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