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Join Jodie and Tony in the latest episode of "And Another Thing". This week the dynamic duo discusses Pierre Poilievre and his impressive momentum as the Conservative Leader. What's behind his rise, and what might it mean for Canadian politics?
But that's not all! The episode takes an unexpected turn as Tony reveals just how many music-based pieces of clothing he owns. From rock band tees to vintage concert merch, Tony's eclectic wardrobe is sure to surprise and entertain.
Tune in for insightful political analysis and a fun exploration of Tony's music-inspired fashion collection in this exciting episode of "And Another Thing."
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Introduction to 'And Another Thing' Podcast
00:00:00
Speaker
And another thing. And another thing. And another thing. And another thing. Welcome to another episode of And Another Thing, the podcast that continues to set the bar in the world of podcasts. My name is Jody Jenkins. My name is Tony Clement.
00:00:29
Speaker
and we are absolutely thrilled to be at it again for another wonderful show.
Tony's Band T-Shirts and Love for Canadian Music
00:00:37
Speaker
Tony, you are fresh from the conservative convention, which I'm sure we'll get into in great detail, but I do want to ask because I think I saw you on, I definitely saw you on CBC wearing a Rush t-shirt. Is that right? Yes, that is correct.
00:00:56
Speaker
How many, how many band shirts or music related shirts would you pack for a convention that, you know, two, three days? I packed two, uh, rock t-shirts. Jodi, I packed my rush t-shirt and my glorious sons t-shirt. I was going all Canadian for the convention. Why glorious sons though? Cause they're a Canadian band. I don't know. I know that, but I mean, like, are you, are you, is that like, do you have, I guess that begs the question, like how many rock t-shirts or
00:01:27
Speaker
apparel pieces in general, do you have them? A couple dozen. Okay. I was expecting you to say like a hundred or something. No, no, no, no. Do you have any? With a band on it or music? Yeah, band. And to be a hundred percent honest, I don't think I've ever owned a shirt that has a band or something on it. Okay. Yeah. Well, no, that's not exactly true. Wait a second. Wait a second. I have a naughty by nature sweater.
00:01:55
Speaker
Oh, yes, you do. I don't know. That would be it right there. Okay. Well, the 90s cold and they want their, their merch back.
00:02:08
Speaker
I do. I bought one at the national show at Budweiser a few weeks ago and bought an Arctic Monkeys shirt from their show at Emirates Stadium. So yeah, I've got a couple more in my wardrobe from this summer. Did you say the Arctic Monkeys? I forgot about that, man. Yeah. Yeah. They're still going strong. Very popular in Britain. What was their big song?
00:02:35
Speaker
Well, they've, they had a couple, uh, I think the, the, the latest one was, uh, is that what it's called? Do you want to know or something like that? Isn't that the. Yeah. I don't know that one. I'm trying to think of the, they had one big dance floor one. Yeah. Oh, is that, that was them. Gotcha. I'm trying to see. I'm just looking it up right now. Okay. I don't know. I've heard of them, but I don't know a lot about it. Very British band. Very British, but they're from Toronto.
00:03:04
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Why'd you only call me when you're high? That's the one I was trying to think of. Oh, I don't mind. Yeah. That's right. You are. You're on the B. I do. I want to know that's also from 2013. You're on the B side of all these albums then. No, no, no.
00:03:19
Speaker
They're good. I like their later stuff. Like they, they were big for a while and then they kind of calmed down and now they're big again. So I like that in bands when they can get over their soft, sophomore jinx and, uh, and still produce. I think that's important. And so true. So true,
Sponsor Spotlight: Municipal Solutions
00:03:36
Speaker
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00:03:46
Speaker
at municipalsolutions.ca. Tony, I know that you can expand as only you do when it comes to municipal solutions.
00:03:55
Speaker
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00:04:26
Speaker
at the international 2023 open jiu-jitsu championship in Toronto. Oh, did he win? I didn't know. He won. Oh, okay. I'm looking. Oh yeah. I just, I just brought it up right now. Yeah. It looks like he in an open category. It looks like he, he won. So, uh, congratulations to John Mutton. Yeah. I know I had talked to him a little while ago and that's what he was, he was doing some, well, he's always seriously training, but I know he was focused on this event.
00:04:55
Speaker
coming up and I know that he's been busy with that, so it's nice to see the fruits of his labors being rewarded, but there you go. Are they still referring to him as Mr. X? I don't know. It's all calmed down now. I haven't seen anything. I was going to say, are we going to see an article about Mr. X wanted jujitsu? Yes, I don't know. I don't know. It seems to
00:05:23
Speaker
I don't know, gone by the wayside for the time being. We'll see. Well, after our after our discussion, people smartened up. That's what it was. So they smartened up. Exactly. Well, the process must be a due process. That's all. Exactly. Exactly. So anyway, congratulations to John on that.
Impact of Metroland Bankruptcy on Canadian Media
00:05:38
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. So that's that's good news. And the other big news, I know you want to talk about the convention, but the other big news recently was Metroland going under.
00:05:47
Speaker
So all of those community newspapers are in bankruptcy protection right now. I think they laid off something like 600 people and no more print editions for any Metroland publication. They're going digital only. So another big upheaval in the Canadian media market. There you go. And they're dropping their flyer business too.
00:06:10
Speaker
Is that right, eh? Yeah. I mean, it's just they're a shell of their former selves and all that Trudeau tries to do to quote, save traditional media, none of it's working and just annoying people at this point. Well, think about it. I mean, like, and again, you come from a different generation, but I don't read the newspaper.
00:06:37
Speaker
I don't ever open a newspaper. In fact, we get one, oh, it must be a weekly newspaper. It's stuffed with flyers and literally it shows up in my mailbox. It's free each week. And then I literally pick it up and put it out in the recycling every Friday, right? Exactly. It doesn't even get cracked. No, I think that's what a lot of people do. I generally read news blogs and the occasional article that isn't paywalled.
00:07:06
Speaker
And that's how I read my news if I'm being honest. Yeah. And it's funny because I wonder how newspapers, traditional media, like the National Post, Globe and Mail, because some of them, and Toronto Star obviously, but
00:07:25
Speaker
Most of their articles are paywalled. If you were new to going online, you might get a week or so of free articles, but eventually it's going to catch up with your IP and then it'll just be like they're going to be paywalled and they're going to encourage you to save 60% if you sign up now. But I'm curious because
00:07:46
Speaker
I wonder what their rates of actual buy-in on that are, because look, I would not pay to read those articles online. It feels like eventually you can find them somewhere where they're not paywalled online, whether it's through a different link or whatever, sometimes on Twitter, because sometimes I'll go to Twitter and I'll click on a link to a story from the star as an example, and it comes up, I can redefine.
00:08:11
Speaker
But if you go to the actual star website and try and click on it, it's paywall. Right. So I'm just curious how many people buy in because it doesn't maybe, are you, do you pay for that service or do you not? I don't, I, I'm sorry, uh, faithful listeners. I don't pay for a darn thing when it comes to media. If it's free, I'll read it. Yeah. And, uh, otherwise I'm just, I'm not interested enough to start a subscription. And that's just my, my tastes. I'm maybe you can condemn me for that, but, uh,
00:08:41
Speaker
You know, it's kind of like they're trying to emulate the age of moving from Napster to iTunes, right? Remember Napster? Yeah. Yeah.
Media's Transition from Free to Subscription Models
00:08:52
Speaker
Everything was free. Everything was shared. And then they cracked down on Napster and then iTunes came along.
00:08:59
Speaker
and was a trusted source for music. And now, of course, we have the subscription model for Spotify and Apple to Apple Music and so on. But yeah, I mean, somehow it isn't working with media to the same extent. And of course, media, your local newspapers and even the national papers relied so much on advertising.
00:09:26
Speaker
automobile ads and classified ads and all those and all of that just went away. It just disappeared with the advent of Facebook and other social media and online media outlets. So they just haven't come up with a workable model. The ones that have are the iconic institutions like the New York Times or the Washington Post come to mind.
Did Trump Boost Media Businesses?
00:09:51
Speaker
The Guardian in the UK is another example.
00:09:55
Speaker
Uh, and, but for the post and the times, I would argue that the only reason that it worked for them was because of one president, Donald Trump. Yeah. They hated Trump so much that people were willing to pay for the privilege of reading more anti-Trump articles and it worked as a business model. So they, they should thank their lucky stars that Trump came along. Yeah, no, it's, uh, that's a good point. And speaking of Donald Trump, I hit
00:10:24
Speaker
It's a good segue and I wasn't planning on bringing this up, but when you said his name, it kind of reminded me that I should mention it. I was watching Jimmy Kimmel last night, which was my first mistake, but I just can't get over. I mean, whether you like Trump or not, and I'm not
00:10:42
Speaker
I'm not picking a side here, but I just can't get over how much he goes on about Trump and his monologues and stuff. And I get it. People that people like to hear about it, they laugh and whatever. But man, he does it with such an edge of, he literally hates him, he hates his followers, hates anyone that voted for Trump. It's crazy.
00:11:08
Speaker
Well, most of those late night guys, they've, they've, they've got into this habit of, uh, that's their form of comedy now that they, they consider that comedy when it's really just a political commentary. Yeah. It's not even funny. It's not funny anymore. Right. And even maybe it wasn't even funny at the time, but they're, they're locked in because their, their, um, viewership is of the same political ilk.
00:11:36
Speaker
Uh, and so they don't care that they're pissing off 50% of the US population, I guess, but, and that's, if that works for, for their advertising, okay, I suppose, but that's it to call that comedy. I think Conan O'Brien, I think recently said something about this, by the way.
00:11:55
Speaker
Conan's on record saying comedy isn't funny anymore and he used the example of Kimmel and the other guys just going off on a rant on Trump every single time and that's not comedy in Conan's point of view. So it's not a good scene right now.
00:12:18
Speaker
One of them, I think, oh yeah, Bill Maher, he had put a pause on his program because of the writer's strike, but now he's going back to work. He's decided, strike or no strike, he's going to be airing episodes of his podcast at least, if not his show. They were jumping down his throat for doing that.
00:12:47
Speaker
you know, there's a guy that I think is still pretty funny. I think Bill Maher is still pretty funny. He takes shots at Trump, but he also takes shots at Biden. He's a big critic of the woke movement, but he's got some funny stuff. So I'm happy to hear that he's going to be producing more stuff. Yeah, no, I would I would tend to agree with you on that front. So let's dive into
00:13:16
Speaker
the conservative convention, the fallout from that, because I know you probably have some great insights. I'll start off, interestingly, I was at an event last night at our children's school. I was talking to a bunch of parents and Pierre Poliev came up, the messaging and the points and all positive stuff. But one parent did say, and I tend to, you know, not that I totally agree with them, but I could see how it could happen is that
00:13:45
Speaker
They felt he was peaking too early. Like, you know, if the election isn't for a year and a half, people have short memories, right? So I'm just curious your thoughts on that, because I would say right now, Pierre is as hot as he's ever been in a campaign or in general. And I wonder, is he peaking too early? I'd rather be ahead than behind.
00:14:07
Speaker
Fair enough. No, I'll give you that, but be honest though. As well as I do, a lot can change in a year, let alone six months, even a month. A hundred percent. A day. I know Pierre well enough to know he's not taking anything for granted. He's going to keep working like the energizer bunny that he is.
00:14:27
Speaker
It's not going to impact on his work ethic at all. Since the convention he immediately went out to BC and did another tour in British Columbia and around the timing of the
00:14:43
Speaker
liberal caucus meeting, he announced his housing policy to many plaudits on that too. So I think the intensity of what he's doing isn't going to let up. And so I think that there were people saying that at the convention. Let me just say, generally, the convention was a big success. It was very professionally organized and managed.
00:15:08
Speaker
Everybody was, as they say in the business, on message. There were some interesting speakers that gained some attention as well, and we had some policy debates. You could be on one side or the other, but heck, at least we have policy debates in our party. That all went well.
00:15:28
Speaker
One of the interesting things about the convention, I've been to political conventions since 1977. My very first convention was I was 16 years old and it was in Quebec City. I think that was the last time we had a national convention of one of the conservative parties in Quebec City.
00:15:47
Speaker
A lot has happened since then, but I can tell you that this was extremely professionally organized and run. The other thing that happened was that there were a few things that went wrong. I'm not going to go into detail. They weren't big things, but they were things that, if you wanted to notice, were noticeable, Jodi.
00:16:10
Speaker
But the fact of the matter is when you're on a roll, none of that matters. None of it was picked up. If Pierre Poliev was 10 points behind Justin Trudeau, the media, oh, look what happened here. Oh, look what happened there. None of that was relevant, though, because he's on a roll. And so when you're winning, you keep winning until that streak is somehow dashed. And of course,
00:16:37
Speaker
We were barely aware of it, really, but at the same time this was happening,
00:16:43
Speaker
Justin Trudeau was in India just making an ass of himself again and getting his plane stuck there, which is obviously not his fault. He's not a plane technician, but it's just like when it's in politics, when it rains, it pours. This guy had a very unsuccessful trip to India a few years ago because of some of his antics. He comes back there
00:17:10
Speaker
is ignored by his fellow G20 heads of government. The Indian government has no time for him either. So he was a lone and solitary, miserable figure. And then his plane breaks down. And then the Indian government offers him one of their planes, which would have been truly humiliating. And he says no to that and has to wait for a rescue from a Canadian forces plane. So all of which is to say,
00:17:38
Speaker
Trudeau was having a miserable weekend at the time that Pierre was having a wonderful weekend.
Pierre Poliev's Popularity: Can It Last?
00:17:46
Speaker
Trudeau did come back for his caucus meeting, obviously, and they're ready to fight on and fight back. It's going to be an interesting session of parliament. Let's put it that way. Yeah, there's no doubt that it's going to be a drag out, all hands on deck affair when it comes to
00:18:04
Speaker
you know, the two major parties going at each other and then obviously you have the NDP and look, I'm pulling for Pierre. I mean, I consider Pierre a friend and I have no doubt that he's going to take it all, take it home or bring it home as he would say. It's just that whole like, you know, you think about that angle of like, how long can you sustain that momentum for? Because it isn't, it isn't easy. And that's not questioning his work ethic, not questioning the efforts that are going to be put forward by the team.
00:18:34
Speaker
It's just reality, right? Like, I don't think it's realistic, to be honest, to maintain the level he's at right now for the entire, you know, let's say the next 18 months. I don't. You may be right. And that'll be the real test for him, won't it? To have adversity again, where the media pile on and there's some reaction to something he did or said. And then that's going to be the test of his medal.
00:19:01
Speaker
Because if you're going to be prime minister, you're going to have days and weeks like that. So you've got to be ready for it. And so consequently, they're not going to give him a free ride to the prime minister's chair. No, of course not. So there'll be adversity ahead. And his polling numbers may take a hit on the way. And then the question that he'll have to answer, which I think he'll answer well,
00:19:25
Speaker
Let me say that, but he'll have to answer, okay, how do I pick myself up from this adverse situation and get back on my message and reestablish my rhythm again? So that's what you expect out of leaders, right? That they can get themselves out of difficult situations, maybe not even of their own making, and carry on. So that's a test in the future for sure.
00:19:53
Speaker
And I would say this too, I'd love to hear from some of our faithful followers and subscribers to this podcast, your thoughts. And there's a way you can do it. I know it's on one of our platforms. I think it's probably Spotify, but I believe you can leave comments on our Spotify podcast section. So let us know what you think. Can Pierre keep this momentum going right through until the election happens? I mean, I think it'd be great
00:20:23
Speaker
to hear what people have to say and hear some other thoughts. So we'll see how this all plays out. I know that you were chatting with a lot of your friends at the Conservative Convention. Any interesting stories you can share or is everything
00:20:37
Speaker
What happens at the convention stays at the convention? Well, I mean, a lot of the former guests on our program were there, of course. Jamil Jovani is a good case in point. He's now the candidate, a conservative candidate in Durham writing, which was Aaron O'Toole's former writing.
00:20:57
Speaker
He was one of the keynote speakers, so good for him. Peter McKay was there, Jody. He had a keynote address around lunchtime, one of the days. So it was good to see him back in the ring a little bit. A lot of speculation at the convention that he'll run again. I don't know if you'd heard that from your vantage point. Yeah. Well, it's funny you say that because I saw the tweet from, I don't know who it was, Don Martin or someone said that Pierre wants Peter to run and Peter has not said no.
00:21:26
Speaker
I think that's a fair assessment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he's got a check with Nazanine, his wife, and he's got kids and all that. But I think with Peter McKay, he's got some unfinished business. Let's be honest. He didn't like the way his career ended with a defeat and a leadership. And I think that given his druthers, he'd like to take another shot at it. And people still love the guy. I mean, there's no question.
00:21:55
Speaker
No question. There was lots of people flocking around him wanting, wanting photos and whatnot. And so he was a, he was a very, definitely very popular guy. And of course, Lord Daniel Hannon, another former guest of ours.
00:22:09
Speaker
He was there. He was there. He gave a speech, a luncheon speech and was his usual British self and really is a big fan of Pierre Poliev. He said in that speech that Pierre Poliev is the most impressive right of centre leader, conservative leader in
00:22:32
Speaker
uh in the world right now is basically that yeah it was very very high praise uh and uh raise some eyebrows because of course uh his prime minister the british prime minister rishi sunak was not who he said was the number one so that was interesting uh so yes lord hannon was there and uh making a splash as usual so a lot of people that we've had on as guests jodi were were prominent at the convention and you mentioned peter mckay you mentioned jamil
00:23:01
Speaker
Any other names of potential, I usually don't like calling them this, but star candidates, is there any names of people that are floating out there, bigger names that are being courted? Usually at this stage it's fairly quiet until the nominations process
00:23:21
Speaker
starts in earnest, but there have been some nominations already, but not a lot. So I expect that you will hear more names in the future. Obviously, the great majority of the Conservative Caucus were there, and so they were highlighted as well. I think of Melissa Landsman, of course, a former guest on our program.
00:23:43
Speaker
others as well. They were all there. I mean, there are 2,600 participants, including delegates and observers. So lots of people were there in Quebec City. I wonder if we'll see any Conservative or like, for example, in Ontario, any Ontario PC members look at taking the leap to federal in the next election. I think that's something that we should keep an eye out for. It'll be interesting to see. Yeah, I don't know the answer to that, but we'll see.
00:24:13
Speaker
Well, can you find out the answer and let me know? I'll let you know as soon as I can. I'll do some digging for you, buddy. And what else is going on in your world these days? Do you have any of your musical? I know you were at a couple of concerts. I, you know, as I live vicariously through you on Instagram, I saw you read some concerts recently. I was at the Canons show at Danforth Music Hall. Canons is a LA band there. They've been around for around 10 years now.
00:24:41
Speaker
very melodic sound. I had never seen them before. My daughter wanted to go, and I was interested just because of that. I thoroughly enjoyed the show. They've got some hits on Spotify, so good for them. Yeah, I think that's the most recent one that I can refer to. In a couple of months, I've got tickets for Springsteen in Toronto, so
00:25:09
Speaker
I'll hop on that horse again and yeah, I'll let you know if we've got any other shows we've got at the Albany club. You know, I'm a member there, Jodi.
00:25:21
Speaker
Another former guest of ours, Marcel Dion, is going to show up. They've got a new documentary film on the Team Canada 72 series, the Summit series against the Soviets, 1972. And Marcel has agreed to show up for that. So I'm really looking forward to seeing that film, that documentary on that.
00:25:41
Speaker
amazing hockey series that helped define modern Canada and a lot of memories for us old folks for that. And it's great that Marcel has decided to show up for that too. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Well, that should work out well. And I've never, by the way, I just want to put it out that I don't think I've ever been invited to go to the Albany Club.
00:26:04
Speaker
Oh, really? Would you, would you drive all the way from Belleville to go to the, it's a long way to go. I know. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So maybe, maybe for a special occasion, we'll, we'll think of that, but maybe for lunch. Yeah, for lunch. Yeah. I, I'm good for, I'm good for a lunch, but, uh, yeah, no, so, uh, you know, September's hit, uh, as you know, your kids are back, uh, at school and we're all hoping we don't have another.
00:26:31
Speaker
COVID meltdown from our political leadership. You can't see that happening. There's no way that happens. Well, Teresa Tam wants people to get their masks ready.
00:26:44
Speaker
Yeah, but I just don't see people playing along this time. I mean, I don't know about you, but I'm around. I just don't see it. Yeah, I agree. I think some people wear masks and good for them. Oh, yeah. Do whatever you feel comfortable doing, but a mask mandate is a very different thing. You do you. Exactly. Exactly.
00:27:04
Speaker
I don't even, I haven't even been thinking about that stuff. Good, good, good. And back to school was this, I guess in your sense, it's a bit different, but you're getting- Yeah, all three kids at school for the first time, they're all at the same school grade, what is it? JK, grade two and grade four. Fantastic. They're loving it, taking the bus, meeting new friends, seeing old friends, learning,
00:27:33
Speaker
You know, all that, all that amazing stuff. And they're actually, the school they're at right now is, is not a temporary because that's where they've been, you know, the school has always been located there, but they're just waiting patiently because there's a new school being built for them. So. Oh, really? Yeah. Just cause they're, they've outgrown their current surroundings. Right. You've got, you've got a lot of growth in Belleville these days.
00:27:56
Speaker
There is a lot of growth. There is a lot of growth. It's quite crazy actually.
Liberal Party's Immigration Stance and Housing Issues
00:28:01
Speaker
And I should ask you this too, because speaking of growth, I mean, probably can't get into it too much, but I've been interested to see the liberals kind of walking back their position on some of the immigration topics and doing it in a way that doesn't allow them to be labeled as haters or anything. Because if you recall, I think it was like, I feel like it was like
00:28:25
Speaker
you know, three, four years ago, if you questioned immigration levels, you were instantly labeled racist. Yeah. Right. Right. Now they're kind of trying to balance that. But what do you make of, what do you make of their position on that?
00:28:38
Speaker
Yeah, I think that you know what everybody's saying. Nobody's saying it's terrible that we have immigrants. Everybody's saying, look, immigration is fine, but let's find a place to house them and to make sure that they can be in our economy at a decent pace. So I think that's where the argument is right now, and it's kind of hard to argue against that. So I think the liberals are walking it back a little bit. They've probably done some polling and realized that.
00:29:08
Speaker
And, um, yeah, it's going to be an interesting topic. I think that most of the steam that they're letting out is on the international students, which is just, it's multiplied so much.
Challenges Faced by International Students in Canada
00:29:20
Speaker
I mean, if you walk, you know, around some of these university and college campuses now, it's, it can be 40 or 50% international students now. So, Oh, it's, we, I guess it's funny you say that because, um, I, I won't give any names, but I have a good friend that, uh,
00:29:38
Speaker
reached out to me because there was a situation where he encountered an international student that needed help. And just the Coles Notes version, Tony, this is a student from abroad, seven and a half months pregnant, okay? Okay. Came over for this school year, living in a house with 13 other men.
00:29:59
Speaker
Oh my goodness. Yeah. Bathroom apparently isn't working. Anyway, long story short, my friend and his wife basically said, yeah, you're not living there. You come, you're coming to live at our house. Like we're at will cause this is not right. Um, so they're helping her out, but just like that's, that is not uncommon, right? And, um, it's, it's a problem.
00:30:22
Speaker
I mean, I don't know what the answer is, but it is a massive problem in my opinion. Wow. That's an incredible story and probably not the only one. So maybe we'll have to delve into that in another podcast. Well, we probably should actually. We should have somebody on in that. Who's the immigration critic for the conservatives?
00:30:43
Speaker
Who is the immigration critic for the government? We should know that. We should probably know that, but I don't know. Is it Tom Kameech? Is that who it is? Is it? That sounds pretty close. Let me just Google it quickly here. Immigration. I'm looking up the shadow cabinet. You think it's Tom Kameech? How do you say his last name? Kameech. Kameech. There's a lot of people in the shadow cabinet.
00:31:09
Speaker
Yes, there is a lot of people in the show. A lot of people in the real cabinet do. It's not Clifford Small. No. Tom Camino. Shadow Minister for Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship. I nailed it. Book it. Let's get him on. Okay. I'll reach out to Tom. Absolutely. He's out west, right? I feel like Jeff Watson would know him well.
00:31:34
Speaker
Yeah, he's out in Calgary or Edmonton. I can't remember which one. Speaking of which, there is a name that I wouldn't be surprised to see running in the next federal election. Oh, you think so? I could see that.
00:31:46
Speaker
I could see that. What is he still, I wonder if he's still working with Danielle Smith. I think he's still, I must be still in working at the wild rose party or in the premier's office or something. Yeah. So anyway.
Closing Remarks and Listener Engagement
00:31:58
Speaker
All right, Tony. Well, all right, man. We'll wrap this up and thanks as always to everyone that takes the time to download, subscribe, listen, share all that fun stuff. Again, don't forget on Spotify, you can actually leave some comments. Let us know, as we asked earlier,
00:32:14
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Ken Pierre-Paul Liev maintained the momentum he has right now, right through until the next election, and we'll share some of those responses on our next show. Thanks again to the team at Municipal Solutions. You can find them online at municipalsolutions.ca. And Hunter's Bay Radio, too. Thank you. Yes, Hunter's Bay Radio. Tony, give him the plug there as he is on the, or he's a director. He's the director of the control board.
00:32:44
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That's his official title so you can catch us weekends on Hunters Bay Radio. And we will do this again in seven days. Enjoy the rest of your week. You too, bud.