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This week on And Another Thing, Jodie Jenkins and Tony Clement dive into the latest political headlines! With Prime Minister Justin Trudeau facing growing challenges within the Liberal Party, what could be his next move? The duo also break down Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre’s buzzworthy appearance on one of Canada's biggest podcasts. Plus, Tony shares candid thoughts on the state of respect — or lack thereof — in today’s political arena. Don’t miss this engaging and thought-provoking episode!
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New Year Kick-off
Team Canada's Junior Hockey Woes
00:00:22
Speaker
Welcome to another episode of And Another Thing, the podcast that continues to set the bar in the world of podcasts. My name is Jody Jenkins. My name is Tony Clement. And Happy New Year. Yes, Happy New Year. That's right. It's 2025. 2025, and we're still going strong. Did you do anything exciting? ah When?
00:00:47
Speaker
for New Year's? I just went to a friend's house in Huntsville and watched watch the the crappy Team Canada junior team be crappy and then rang in the New Year, the normal Canadian things. Yeah, a lot of people upset about the outcome of that tournament. Bad team, bad roster. Yeah, everyone was saying that they left a lot of the best players off the roster.
00:01:12
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know whether they were going for synergy or what the management thought, but what I saw was an undisciplined team that took far too many penalties and really didn't have any standout stars. That's, I'm being honest with you. I hate to say I'm a, I'm a team Canada junkie, but I'm not going to support that product. Don't sugar coat it how you really feel. yeah Yeah, exactly. I'm not alone with that point of view.
00:01:39
Speaker
Yeah, no, it's, uh, yeah, it was interesting. I'm not, I don't get as invested in the world juniors. So not really, ah not really a big deal to me, but
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00:01:47
Speaker
I definitely followed some of the commentary and yeah, Canada was, I mean, they, they got what they got because that's, yeah, they lost, served lost to Latvia, lost to the US. Yeah. They didn't deserve to go very far based on that and on what I saw. So now, now, and now we're into, i I guess NFL, how the Cleveland Browns are doing.
00:02:08
Speaker
Uh, we'll just move on. Okay. Moving on. About as good as the Raiders, I guess. About as good as the Raiders. Okay, good. So we won, we've won four games. Come on. yeah So we'll just, uh, yeah, there's nothing to, nothing to get for me, nothing to get excited about in the playoffs, but.
00:02:23
Speaker
now Again, I'll watch. It is what it is. yep Not much you can do about it. We should before we get any deeper into this. Oh, yes, of course. Our presenting sponsor each week, the crew at Municipal Solutions, of course, John Mutton and his team doing a wonderful job and we wish them all the best in the new year. Yes. Tony, I know you can expand on their services.
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00:03:04
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Evolution of Canadian Political Debates
00:03:09
Speaker
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00:03:31
Speaker
I was on YouTube the other day and I don't know how I got served this video that I'm about to talk about, but it was called Encounter 79. You know what that is?
00:03:47
Speaker
No, it's about UFOs. No. Oh, so encounter 79 was actually the federal election debate. Oh, right. 1979. They i watched that. Yeah. Yeah. They used to call it encounter, which anyway, long story short, I was watching that again. I don't know how it got served up in.
00:04:04
Speaker
in the algorithm for me, but it did nonetheless. And I ended up going back and watching in encounter 74. I think it went back to the late sixties actually on this um archive channel, a political channel on on YouTube. but So with Pierre Elliott Trudeau. Yeah. Yeah. And Robert Stanfield was, uh, was there as well. 74 79 would be Joe Clark.
00:04:25
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Joe Clark, ah twice actually. because Twice. It was again, again in the, would have been the nineties. No, 1980. 1980. Yeah. um And then 84 would be Brian Mulroney with John Turner. Yeah. So, and but anyway, long story short, I was watching these, I went through and watched a bunch of these debates. It was funny because I guess where I'm going with this is when they called it encounter and then Eventually, I think it was like in the late 80s, 90s, I started to call it an all leaders debate. So they kind of changed the the tone of it. But the way that things have kind of like changed in terms of how
00:05:04
Speaker
the leaders, the parties, treat each other, react to each other, ah work with each other. It's really, if you watch that to where we are now, oh like it's, good i don't so I guess my question is like, where did, where did everything change? And the one thing that sparked it was like, they were very cordial with each other. ah It looks to me like things started to shift.
00:05:29
Speaker
in the late 90s, mid 90s maybe. Well, you had televised, you know, question period, for example, I think. Yeah, but I'm just saying just from the debates. Yeah, but from the debates. But the whole political culture. Yeah. But what I was going to say is so you watch that and the way that they interact with each other. And then I want to bring it full circle to now is I watched a bit of Pierre Poliev on Jordan B. Peterson. Yes. I think it's ah over 40 million views now.
00:05:57
Speaker
the second the second biggest podcast behind and another thing. That's right. Yeah, I know. They're catching up because we've had Pierre on a couple of times. That's right. But anyway, Pierre made a comment that was very interesting. And what he said was, it was at the beginning of the episode, Jordan talked about, asked him what a day in the life looks like. Yeah. and Pierre mentioned that he meets with his team to plan out their strategy of their daily prosecution of the opposition. That's the wording he used, right? And anyway, it's just where we've come from. And again, I'm not saying right or wrong. I just think it's very interesting how we've lost
00:06:36
Speaker
that that element of, I don't want to say respect, but just it's it's it's much different now. and i don't I'm going to disagree. Really? Yeah, I think that ah throughout modern history in the US and Canada, you know it's it's been a game where You can't bring a knife to a gunfight. So, yeah you know, the the the reality is ah you're there to ah for-to-hand political combat. And, you know, in Sir John A. McDonald's Day or Wilford Laurier's Day, they'd call each other gutter snipes and drunken fools and whatever else they could get away with. ah Not very parliamentary language. So, you know, what what has changed? the the medium The media in which they can convey their message has changed.
00:07:23
Speaker
radically but the message is i used to say this when i was from twenty fifteen on when i was in parliament there's only four words you need to know an opposition those scoundrels did what you know and that's that hasn't changed that that's gone on for decades and decades and I, furthermore, now that I'm on my high horse on this, this whole idea, well, if only they get along, well, they're not paid to get along, folks. They're paid to disagree. they're they you know the The fact of the matter is, if you if you want to have parliament work for everybody, there's got to be differences of opinion and and they should be they should be polite in terms of their personal attacks. they should they should They should veer away from that as much as possible, but they should be passionate
00:08:11
Speaker
about the policy differences and disagreements that they have. Well, you're completely wrong, for starters. oh No, no, no. and and And I'm not saying about I'm not I'm not saying
Pierre Poliev on Jordan Peterson's Podcast
00:08:23
Speaker
about that they're not paid to me. I'm not about nice to each other, whatever. That's not what I'm saying. Maybe it's just because I was watching in sequence all these all the the way things have evolved through these debates. And I'm not talking about question period, but I did find it interesting the way that the leaders um you know, again, talk to each other, disagree with each other. It was much different. I don't think that... Pierre Trudeau was famous. It was famous, Jody. Let's not forget. Pierre Trudeau was famous in the House of Commons.
00:08:52
Speaker
ah for saying F-U. Fuddy-duddy, I know. Yeah, fuddle-duddle. No, I get that. But but my point is, like the word let's use the wording. And again, I'm not even pinning this on Pierre. I'm just interested how, you know at at certain points, probably not that long ago, the the messaging would have been like, how do we, you know as the opposition, we hold the government to account, or that's what our job is. Whereas when he said the daily prosecution, I was just like, yeah, that's a little different. but i'm And again, I'm not saying I disagree with it.
00:09:22
Speaker
I just was like, wow, we've come. and Things are really different. Things are really different. But to me, they're the same. They're different, but they're the same. I agree. there got to go But you've got to deny, but you've got to go back and watch some of those old debates. I remember watching them. even But even what they called them seriously encounter. Yeah, it's it was. it that I think that it yeah it was all I don't know. It was just it was just all different. Now. Now they call it Smackdown Smackdown 2025 live. It was interesting. I think it was like mid-90s or whatever. um the It was the first time that they gave a little twist to encounter. They had a studio audience, which I think was a first. And it was interesting because the woman that I think hosted at the time for while a while, and Medina, Anne Medina, maybe? Yeah, from CBC or something. Okay. yeah So anyway, but she made the comment of how we've...
00:10:15
Speaker
we We've taken a cross section of people from across the country to represent all, and they showed the audience that every single person was white. yeah it just so it just just It was kind of interesting, but i was like my wouldnt I would not fly today. They would not fly. No, and not a good not a good look.
00:10:33
Speaker
yeah but anyway yeah and So, and then on Pierre with being on Jordan's show, I think that's a complete, we talked about this on the show before, the page out of the
Speculation on Trudeau's Resignation
00:10:43
Speaker
the um American election of how Donald Trump was going on Joe Rogan and all these things. and Remember i ah we shared about it, we talked about it, how like they purposely We're doing these um podcast influencer driven appearances right on shows that were I think mainly male, I think, um but a definitely definitely a younger demographic. You look at this appearance on Peterson and Pierre I think is like like you said, it's the most watched
00:11:13
Speaker
Show that Peterson has done by a long shot. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that I think that was a calculated move because, you know, and I've already seen it. The liberals are just are just going crazy over him being on there. Oh, absolutely. And they're losing me even the yeah the the traditional media.
00:11:30
Speaker
are sniffing and you know turning up their nose. Well, you know he just ah he's on Jordan Peterson's, but he really has a disdain for the mainstream media. Well, first of all, the mainstream media is bought and paid for by the Liberal government. Let's not forget that fact.
00:11:46
Speaker
and Secondly, he you know I have this other saying, Jodie, you fish where the fish are. yeah You're going to go where there you can get a ah mass audience yeah and get your message out unfiltered from the media bias of the CBC or the CTV or whatever. yeah and and Here's Pierre Poliev.
00:12:07
Speaker
over two hours able to to handle a two hour interview. You know, I challenged Justin Trudeau or his successor to do the same thing. Of course, they yeah they wouldn't even try. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was on YouTube on Jordan's channel. It was posted two days ago. and It's already at two million views. Yeah. On YouTube. So yeah on YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. yeah i But i'm I'm thinking I've heard 36 million or something like that. Oh, yeah. I'm sure. Like with all the platforms, I know it's yeah like it's it's crazy. But And of course at the time, ah sorry, I should say at the time of this recording on YouTube, it's at 2 million, it'll continue to go up. And of course we know that later this week, I don't know what you're hearing, but I'm hearing that Trudeau probably resigns like midweek. Well, I think we're recording this on Sunday to be fair to our audience. It could happen as early as tomorrow on Monday.
00:12:58
Speaker
You think it could be that early? Yeah. Rather than he's got a caucus meeting at Wednesday. Wednesday, yeah. Yeah. you'd want to have the You don't want to have a at the OK Corral in your caucus? No. You want to make a decision before then so that the caucus is there giving you a standing ovation and saying, what a great track record you've had and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:13:19
Speaker
So you're not going to have a big fight at the at the caucus. you're going to yeah my My guess on Sunday afternoon, as we're recording, is he announces his resignation. and He'll stay on until a new leader is selected. And he announces the Prorogation of Parliament after visiting the Governor General. And the Parliament won't resume for, say, a 60 to 90 day period after the announcement.
00:13:45
Speaker
Yeah, and that and that move will likely salvage some some writings for them in a general election. Yeah, I think that- Not enough to win by any stretch. but Well, who you know again, we're playing the prediction game, but no, I mean, there will be some bounce back just by the fact that we see the back of Justin Trudeau.
00:14:05
Speaker
But ah whoever the new leader is, we're speculating here. There'll be a bunch of people who are considering running. We know that, including Mark Carney and Kristia Freeland. and Champagne and you know it goes on it and and so on, Melanesially, et cetera, et cetera. But you know none of them are going to be as hated as Justin Trudeau is today. But you know they're there that's the that's the plus side for the Liberal Party. The downside is he was a great campaigner. and Let's not get around the bullshit. None of them have been in a national campaign before.
00:14:38
Speaker
Uh, and so, uh, yeah, it's, uh, there and all of them have the taint of being in the liberal party that has governed for 10 years. And, um, you know, that record, they can say it's a great record. And, uh, I know they have their advocates for that, but most Canadians when they're looking back are thinking times when it comes to crime or it comes to cost of living, when it comes to, you know, all of the issues that people really care about, uh, it was a better time 10 years ago.
00:15:08
Speaker
A hundred percent. That's what I was just going to be my next, my next point about his legacy and how like he, I just don't see a positive spin on his legacy, regardless of if he steps down or even stays on and runs and ah in the next election. it's it It's not, not good either way. Well, and, and, ah you know, then it becomes the historians, but the problem for the,
00:15:32
Speaker
liberals is they still have to find a way to win to continue to govern. so they can't you know As you run away from that legacy, ah how how good is that legacy for you, number one? and Number two, ah they're not going to be very successful at it because they all had a part in playing for for that government for 10 years. so Yeah, they should all. and I know that the conservatives, their communications team, their MPs have mentioned this too, but and you you raise a good point is that, you know, in in essence, if you were to go back and pinpoint all the moves that Trudeau made, I think what you could conclude is that, and we talked about this before, is that
00:16:14
Speaker
you know, for lack of a better term, at certain points when he was elected, they removed what we'll call the adults at the table from around his circle, right? right And they put in fresh new people and they they didn't seem to want, you know, a reasonable sense of of thought or, you know, some common sense injections. And in reality, the ones that stood by him were were're guilty to at all because they they didn't want to go against him. So he either wielded some really crazy power, which is probably.
00:16:51
Speaker
True. Although I mean, being on the outside, I'm kind of, I've never been an MP, but I always sit there and I'd like to think to myself, well, no, I'll go in there and fight for what I want. And, but I, you know, typically that doesn't work out as well as, as what, uh, as what want to be politicians think. But they, they are all, anyone that was supported him fully, they're, they're the ones to blame. And I don't know how they get away from that.
00:17:14
Speaker
um And I think that's why you're seeing so many step away distance themselves come out publicly because they're trying to give themselves a reasonable chance of a fight ah when the election arrives. Right. And, you know, they look that part of your role as a caucus member is to support the team. And there's a lot of pressure to support the team. Let's let's be honest. And, ah you know, for a while, it kind of worked. Here's a guy. He won one majority government. The other two are minority governments. yeah And each time he won a minority government, he got the most number of seats despite having less popular vote than the opposition conservatives. yeah Let's not forget that. So if you're a liberal and you won your seat, you know, this guy's a magician, right? You don't want to go against that. I mean, heck, you won your seat despite losing the popular vote countrywide. So yeah, I mean, the magic was there. The magic is there until the magic isn't there.
00:18:09
Speaker
you know, the same same with the Stephen Harper years. You know, we were gung ho for Stephen Harper. I was part of his team and I'm proud of our record. But everyone thought that Stephen Harper was unstoppable until somebody stopped him. And that happened to be Justin Trudeau. Same, yeah same kind of mystique was built up around Justin Trudeau. But, you know, the polls, you can say if they're totally accurate, I don't know, but they don't lie that much.
00:18:34
Speaker
you know, when when the conservatives are ahead by 26%, that's pretty obvious that Trudeau is ah into the dustbin of history fairly soon. So, you know, as of this afternoon, as we're recording, I think he's going to
Stephen Harper's Legacy in Today's Politics
00:18:49
Speaker
be gone. I don't think there's any fight left in him. And even if there was, his caucus wouldn't go along with that. ah So I think that their their play is to perogue to avoid the immediate defeat. ah But there once the House comes back with, ah say, a new leader, ah they're going to face a test of confidence, which they will lose and will be in an election. So that's my prediction. Yeah. And it's it's interesting because you mentioned Stephen Harper and and I don't know your thoughts, but you look back at what he went through, you know governing wise, what your government's encountered, ah the successes, the victories they had. like i i
00:19:28
Speaker
I genuinely believe, and I know there's a lot of people out there that feel the same, that he could be the best prime minister Canada has ever had. Well, I tend to agree with you. Yeah. you know I know the people on the left side of the spectrum will cringe at that, but yeah if you look at- They'll go crazy when you say that. Absolutely. But if you look at if you put it out all all on paper and mapped it out and visual like,
00:19:55
Speaker
He like, it's hard to argue that yeah we had very, very, very time had very challenging. We had ah challenges with the U.S. We had challenges with the world economy, all those things that Trudeau has had, too. But we tended to get things right.
00:20:10
Speaker
and they worked on being worked out on behalf of Canadians. So i'm i'm I'm very proud of our record and more and more and more people ah you know come up to me and say, boy, those were those were the good times you know and we're not in those times right now. So so that's ah that's the legacy that Trudeau's successor is going to have to battle for sure.
Economic Fragility: MPP to Homelessness
00:20:31
Speaker
Yeah, no, it's ah interesting. interesting so they're facing They're facing probably the best communicator that the Conservative Party has served up since at least Brian Mulroney. Let's be honest up here, Pauliev is in a class by himself. no yeah he's And again, they you know there's there's the tractors, their heads are going to explode because I've said that, but the proof is in the pudding. I'm sorry. Yeah. i wanted One other story I wanted to talk about quickly here, and it it's also involves politics, because was the article that came out in the national post recently about a former Ontario MPP, who I think you're familiar with. And yeah some of our listeners may be familiar with the story, but long story short, I believe a four-term liberal MPP p and Lorenzo, what was the last name? bennna Was it Benedetti or something like that?
00:21:19
Speaker
and Or am I wrong? ah Yeah. No, I think you're right. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, four term liberal MPP, uh, served under McGinty and Barardinetti. Okay. Served under McGinty, Dalton McGinty, and premier win, and was also a counselor, municipally before that, uh, tried to get back in in 2018, wasn't successful. And if my memory serves me correctly with the article 2021, he got a divorce.
00:21:47
Speaker
had some health challenges, and some financial issues with siblings. Here we are in 2025, and I don't know where he's right now, but like in the last year, I believe, or more, he's been living in a homeless shelter. Yeah. Has nothing. Yeah. And that kind of hit me, I think it hit me on a couple levels. One being that, you know, my connections with ah our local homeless shelter here in Belleville, the Grayson, which I was one of the founders starting that. i It also hit me with the political aspect and being involved and then just the fact that it literally because we hear this all the time. you know you're one Anyone could be one paycheck away from being homeless and I think sometimes it's easy. You hear that and you're like, yeah, could that really happen?
00:22:30
Speaker
like it like Because if someone said to me that a four-term MPP, a lawyer by profession, and you know a counselor at one point, a city counselor, is homeless, you'd be like, well, what the heck? Something must have happened. And then a couple things did that were detrimental. And it's just a I think it's to me, it's just a crazy, crazy story. And it if further shows you how Canada is broken, in my opinion.
00:22:56
Speaker
Well, i say I'd say a couple of things. First of all, you know obviously, I have a lot of sympathy for him and what he went through is in a sense is just another example of what many people go through and through through no fault of their own, but but for the grace of God, go you or I, I would say. Yes. So there's that. and um But it does show that you know there are a lot of people yeah I think it's a large percentage of the population that is within one paycheck of everything falling apart in their lives, yep right or missing the mortgage or yeah not having enough to buy groceries. you've We've seen the huge increase in demand at the food banks and in Muskoka.
00:23:45
Speaker
Quinte and other, everywhere basically. yes and And so, yes, that that's our reality. and we were ah My wife and I were at the funeral of a um dear friend of ours' mother.
00:24:02
Speaker
ah And he was, at the eulogy, was talking about her life. She she she lived to a ripe old age, late 80s. And, you know, they started out with a dirt floor.
00:24:16
Speaker
yeah ah And ah she and her husband
Challenges to the Canadian Dream
00:24:21
Speaker
by the you know by the last third of her life were able to have holidays in France and holidays in Israel and you know see the world a little bit and have to live a comfortable life. Is that what our expectations are for our children?
00:24:43
Speaker
I mean, that's what our hopes are for our children. yeah But there's ah you know going from a dirt floor shack to comfortable living, that's the Canadian dream, Jody. yeah And a lot of people are wondering whether it's available anymore. and that's that's that's the Yeah, exactly. And that's the problem. that is That is why people are saying things are broken. you know It's not a political statement. It's a it's ah it's a statement of self-awareness of what reality is now.
00:25:11
Speaker
Yeah, I mean the reality the reality is, and I'm sure there's like, look, don't get me wrong. When I say it's not an option or it's not a possibility, I'm being like i'm i'm saying you know with the majority of Canadians, I don't for one second they say think that there aren't some individuals that are going to scratch it out, grind it out, and be huge successes, and we see that all the time. But things have changed so much. you know even When you think about, like you know let's go back 30, 40 years, ah which doesn't seem that long ago to me. No. I mean, I'm 48 right now. but
00:25:46
Speaker
You go back thirty forty years when you used to be able to walk into a bank as an example and have a reasonable. Idea for say a business or a business plan and they would kind of roll the dice on how they felt. About you right that kind of gauge whether they would you know give you the funds to do that where is like now that doesn't happen yeah no way you can't do that.
00:26:06
Speaker
yeah The only way you can do that is you have to find investors yourself who you know nine times out of 10, it's going to be a higher rate of borrowing or getting that money or you're giving up a bunch of your company. Or or put it you're putting up your house as collateral. That's correct. so and again how many yeah How many young people have a house yeah do that to put up as collateral? Nobody. but i and I'm not saying that those things aren't still happening, but yeah and I think you would agree.
00:26:31
Speaker
it's not the same as it was. And it's not creating this like Canadian dream. i Yeah, like I've got three young kids. When I think about the future, I'm like, you know, I'm basically thinking like I'm going to have to make sure that, you know, we still own our house or we still have these properties where that's going to be for them so that they can get into that. That's right. Because I don't see right now how they could do that on their own. They can't do it on their own. No, it's impossible. Yeah, that's the reality.
00:26:57
Speaker
Anyway, on that positive note, happy new year, Joey. We wish you all the best. We think 2025 is going to be your best year yet. Yeah. And remember folks who are listening in, those Bentleys don't pay for themselves. Well, I'm going to Florida the week of January 20th. Oh, cool. Going to the PGA show. Oh, lovely. Doing some work for the golf tournament and stuff, but endless summer, which is coming up June 13th, 14th.
00:27:23
Speaker
and We'll talk about that at some point in the next few weeks as well. But anyway, what I was going to say is the dollar, like I'm sure, you know, I'm not again, I'm not trying to be Mr. Negative here, but I'm sure Canadians are not traveling down to the States like they would. Painful for right now. Yeah. Yeah. yeah ah Even I felt it when I was in Washington just in December.
00:27:43
Speaker
Okay. You know, and getting from the airport to my hotel was like 124 US dollars. Oh my gosh. Oh, it hurts so much, Jody. Yeah. But on the reverse, Americans coming here, they should be flocking here. Yeah. Come on. We're dollar. We love your dollar. Your dollar goes a long way up here. Hey, you know, apparently we're the 51st state. Don't you know?
00:28:08
Speaker
Well, if it meant lower taxes and, you know, our money goes, our i her yeah yeah yeah I'd be okay for some sort of hybrid model. yeah um I mean, I still want to have Canada. but not Well, you know, yeah it's the funny thing, like O'Leary is going out there, Kevin, Mr. Wonderful you know i know is going out there ah ah promoting an economic union, which presumably means we get the dollar, we get the federal reserve, but we still have some sort of political sovereignty. So that's his interest that's his proposal.
00:28:38
Speaker
Okay, well, we'll see how that we'll see how Mr. Wonderful. Mr. Wonderful could have been the leader of the conservative party. Could have been, should have been. No, I'm not saying should I should have said could have been the best leader we never had. Yeah,
Closing Remarks and Future Content
00:28:51
Speaker
there's a whole list of those. Yeah. Oh, man. Anyway. All right. Well, here we are. Here we are. That's a show.
00:29:00
Speaker
That's a show, as Jerry would say. That's right. That's no George Costanza. That's a show. Exactly. It's gold, Jerry. It's gold. It's gold. And we really appreciate our audience for 2025, another year for our audience. We really appreciate you. And we're going to give you some great content. We promise you that. Yes. And big shout out to the team at Municipal Solutions for their continued support. We are presenting sponsor from day one, MunicipalSolutions.ca, as well as Hunters Bay Radio. You can catch us every Saturday morning there.
00:29:29
Speaker
on 88.7 in the beautiful Muskoka area. Tony, we will do this again in seven days. Enjoy the rest of your week. You too, buddy.