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In this explosive episode of And Another Thing, Jodie Jenkins and Tony Clement dive into the shockwaves of Donald Trump’s election victory. With Jodie delivering a rant you won’t soon forget, they unpack the fallout, the fury, and the fierce emotions rippling across both sides of the political divide. Buckle up for a wild ride as Jodie holds nothing back and Tony brings his own insights into this historic moment.
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Opening and Humor
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Welcome to another episode of And Another Thing. My name is Jody Jenkins. My name is Tony Clement. I'm Donald Trump, and I approve this message.
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Good start. Good start. I thought so. Well, it was either that or this one. I will be. Here we go. The greatest jobs president that God ever created. God ever created. Well, you know we're going to get into it.
00:00:52
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Absolutely we are. And I just want to say right off the top, before we even get into our sponsors, like I called it, right? like i You did. I should have clips. Actually, I asha should have had our producer put together a series, a montage of all the times in the last six, eight, 12 months that I said Donald is going
Sponsor Acknowledgments
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to win it. so Well, that you you get the bragging rights. I have prepared for this session, Jody, the seven reasons why the Democrats lost. Okay. Okay. So we'll get to that too.
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Yes. So, well, let's, let's kick it off with our sponsors. I know you can do that. Only, only the way you know how to do it. Well, I think it's important because we have such great sponsors and we're very, very proud of our oldest sponsors, but also our newest sponsors as well. So let's start with the presenting sponsor, the Canadian Bankers Association, Joe. Do you know, I have spent years in government, but one thing I learned is that trust,
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Trump's Election Win Analysis
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All right, now you can take a second and catch catch your breath. Thank you. Because I know that we have a lot to get to. So at the time of this recording, while we are doing this, we're just a few days removed from the presidential election.
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down south, 2024. And, you know, I mean, you and I have kind of unpacked some of this, you know, back and forth. Obviously we're going back and forth on the night of, we've talked, you know, on the and the in the days leading up to this show and for sure there's lots we're going to get to. And it's tough. I don't know where to start, but why don't we, like what you have, that you said you have seven, seven things that you wrote down. You compiled the list.
00:05:04
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Yeah. On, on the Democrat side, uh, you know, we can talk about Donald Trump on the Republican campaign, but, uh, let's face it. This, uh, this was supposed to be razor thin clothes. That's the first thing we should say. And it wasn't, I mean, you know, ah comparatively obviously, but you know, there were seven battleground states that were identified and Donald Trump won, won all seven of them.
00:05:26
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He ah won the Electoral College. He was the first Republican to win the popular vote in 20 years. ah He won the Senate, he flipped the Senate, and he's on his way to retaining the House of Representatives. That looks trending the the the way the Republicans want it to be. So that's that's the backdrop. So When I looked at it, it's actually eight things, but I've identified eight things that I think have to be commented upon because this democratic campaign, when all was said and done, Jodi, it was a disaster. It really was. And ah why why is that the case? ah Some of it was out of their control. like This was a change election, Jodi. 70% of Americans wanted change. And ah Kamala Harris,
00:06:15
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She could never break through that barrier. She was the incumbent. She tried to turn it around. I know she did and say, no, we don't want to go backward with Donald Trump. We want to move forward. But the fact of the matter is she was the incumbent candidate. And she famously or infamously tied herself to Biden during the campaign when she was asked whether there was anything that she would change about the Biden administration. She said there was not one thing that she would do differently. That that could have been the end of the election right there. Secondly, her her message, such as it was, was muddled and shifting all the time. ah Coming out of the Democratic National Convention, it was all joy, joy, joy. And then with a week and a half to go, it was fascists, fascist, fascists, you know, it it was jarring. It was not really a message. The the the American people had two top agenda items that were a concern to them, the economy slash inflation.
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and immigration, she really wasn't talking to any of those issues. um And again, I think that ah she had a choice that was all hers on her vice presidential pick. She went with Tim Walz who brought nothing to the table. He's from Minnesota. She was going to win Minnesota. She did not go with Shapiro ah from Pennsylvania. She needed Pennsylvania. She spent all of the final day of the campaign and four or five different whistle stops in Pennsylvania. If she would have chosen Shapiro, uh, that might've been a bit easier for her, but she did not do that. Uh, I just want to talk about celebrity endorsements i absolutely cheap because they, they go a long way. ah Exactly. They do not equal support and she was on stage with Beyonce and she's on stage with Oprah and she's on stage with Bruce Springsteen, whomever, right?
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all all you're doing is taking away. You're taking away. People are showing up to see Springsteen or Beyonce. They're not there to see you. yeah and and And they're not listening to your message. I think that was a really, I know the Democrats do this every single time. I wish they would learn not to rely on celebrity endorsements because all you're doing is emphasizing ah the the beautiful world of Hollywood versus the the everyday life that people have to live when when they when they have to pay five bucks for for some butter, you know, yeah this kind of thing. ah So that's another thing. By the way, where are you getting your butter? Because yeah if you're only paying five bucks. yeah Yeah, exactly. Five bucks. Five bucks, American. yeah there That works. That works. ah Obviously, a big thing for Kamala Harris was the loss of support amongst Latinos and blacks, especially men, but not only men.
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ah And her campaign alienated that those blocks of support. They felt that they weren't being listened to and that their economic issues were not being tended to. And that was the killer right there. ah They either voted for Trump or they didn't show up. ah Women supported her ah by the same margin as men didn't support it. There was supposed to be this big wave of female voters. ah Yeah, she was 10 percent ahead with women and she was 10 percent behind with men, but we were all being told it's going to be 15, 20, 25%. Didn't happen. ah That the Trump was able to blunt the abortion issue. issue And finally, ah last but not the least, she only had 110 days to plead her case. And, you know, whether you like Kamala or don't like Kamala,
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in American politics, 110 days. it's It's usually two and three years to plead your case. The Democrats should have ditched Biden at least a year ago and had a proper
Media Critique and Public Reaction
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primary season with Governor Newsom and Buttigieg and all the others in the fray. And if Kamala would have won that, fine. You know, she would have been tried and tested and and sanctioned by the Democratic Party. None of that happened, Jodi. One minute Biden was there and the next minute he was shunted off to a corner.
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Speaker
And they didn't even have, ah ah you know, any kind of primary race before the convention. And I ultimately, I think that that was a mistake as well. So those are my eight reasons, sir. Yeah, no, no. And you're right. I mean, at the end of the day, and you and I have both been through the political cycle we've campaigned, you obviously have campaigned more than.
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myself, we've both been elected. So you know that was rushed. That entire campaign was rushed. And I think the ones that were running running the campaign, they knew it. They knew it. they had to They had to put everything on fast forward. And again, I mean i can't speak for Democrats, but Harris was force-fed as the candidate to Democratic supporters. For sure. right like I mean, that's that's the reality of it. The one thing I wanted to just mention, and it's my rant, and I don't know if I'll go on another rant, but it's something that has pissed me off. And i you know I'm not a conspiracy guy. you know I come from the media world 20 plus years in radio broadcasting on air. um So i mean look, i I love media. I mean, that's kind of my bread and butter.
00:11:28
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But I'll tell you what I I I was watching multiple channels on Tuesday night. So was I going back and forth. Yeah. Which for the most part, can I just say one thing? I mean. ah You know.
00:11:43
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A lot of them sucked at the way they presented it. Oh my gosh, yes. It wasn't as good as I recall previous elections and other elections, so I'll just leave it at that. But anyway, here's what I was going to say. For all intents and purposes, it was it was very evident with trends, ah early numbers, and what was going on that Trump was going in the direction of winning.
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and they, the media, the mainstream stations, I hate to even use that term because it sounds so like, you know, as soon as you say stuff like that, oh, you're one of those right-winger, whatever, but the mainstream media channels, they would not relent or concede any sense that Trump was going in the right direction or that he had a shot at this. They just would not do it. And what what the the cake taker for me was I stayed up late, not until they called it because I'm like, this is bull crap. But I remember I was watching at like one o'clock in the morning and I think I was watching ABC, whatever channel that Rick Klein is on. He was doing the map. I don't know if it was ABC or CBS.
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and he's like they're they're they are desperately pulling up they're like the guy's like he's like bring up pennsylvania again bring up pennsylvania he's like okay well you're gonna see here there's 93 of the votes in but but you know what there's a couple big blue bubbles here this is some vote out there i'm like there's 93 of the vote in i know just stop it stop it stop it Because I don't care what anyone says. If it was flipped, if that was Harris in that same situation, they would have called that election. Oh, 100%. Probably 1030 that night. I know, I know. It was so ridiculous. It reminds me, the one story I remember from the 2016 coverage was, ah you know, Florida at that during that election was going back and forth.
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Speaker
ah Hillary and and Trump. ah And ah they they were they were all going about how, you know, ah Dade County, oh, it's a big win for Hillary. Hillary's in the mix. Florida is going to go Hillary. And then I looked at the map and they hadn't counted a single vote in the Florida Panhandle. If you know anything about Florida,
00:13:56
Speaker
The Florida Panhandle is like Alabama, OK? Like it's the most right wing part of Florida. And they're all saying how it's it it could go either way. I'm going, dude, it's it's going Trump like as soon as you start counting Panhandle, it's done, right? But they yeah, they they they try to create this this this horse race when that's not really their job. Let's put it. No, and it was it was out it was absolutely ludicrous to watch it. And there was one other tell and i don't know if you noticed this but there was one other tell on all the stations that i saw and it was early because i think most of the stations the their main coverage started at nine is that right nine p or was it eight eight it was eight okay so it was eight so whenever they came on it was like probably within an hour window and numbers started coming in from more and more spots there was an early tell that all the stations mentioned
00:14:49
Speaker
And you could tell on the faces of those that were saying it that something was wrong. And what it was, was they started to give exit poll numbers on where the independents were breaking to. And they I remember the one woman, her face dropped because she was like, oh, that's interesting. trump the trump They're going for Trump, the independents in this exit poll. And I'm like, it's over. They like they know it's over.
00:15:17
Speaker
Yeah. And, and anyway, it just went downhill from there. But I, you know, I was, I was embarrassed for media, to be honest. I was embarrassed by the way. And, and the, and the pollsters don't forget that. and Oh yeah. No, no. And I agree because look, you know, we've talked about this. Wasn't it the day before there was a respected pollster that came out, uh, what was it? The state of Iowa, Iowa. but Yeah. Harris was actually up, was it two points or three points, three points. He won it by what, 15 Trump. Yeah. it might Yeah. So did you hear her and and she was a respected pollster and she's never been wrong and all this crapola. And did you hear her when she was finally confronted? What happened? You said that Harris is going to win. She said, well, the very fact that I published the poll yeah generated such a reaction from Republicans that they won the state.
00:16:03
Speaker
You're just like, are you kidding me? That's your explanation. Give me a break. I know. that's Oh, my gosh. Yeah. And now and I don't know if you've noticed this and it's great. This has gradually evolved to.
00:16:17
Speaker
And maybe it's just the way they do these post-post-mortems. But, you know, I've been talking to some of my friends that would identify on the left side of the spectrum. Right. And the messaging now is that, oh, well, it's, you know, the reality is, is that, you know, um Americans are racist because they didn't want to vote for a black woman. Oh, I know. and That's that's what we're good at. That's that. But see, that's what makes them feel better.
00:16:40
Speaker
Yeah, it's easier to explain. That's easier to explain. And then having to say that, you know what, people are just pissed off at having no money. Right. And and and and that it's tough out there and they're just ah fed up and they're looking past someone's, you know, choices and judgment or character or whatever. And again, that's it. they People are not. That's not registering. It's who do I think out of those two is best positioned to make my life better. Right. And they went with Donald Trump.
00:17:10
Speaker
And the left, they just can't take it. They can't deal with it. We're we're seeing that in the in the days after. Can I also say one factor? I haven't really thought it through completely yet, but Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
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Speaker
You talk about progressive voters. He could have pried away some progressive voters from the Dems ah with his, you know, make America healthy again, ah the the pharmaceutical stuff and the the fresh food stuff and all the things that he was pursuing against sort of big pharma and big health. I think that resonated with some, you know, ah more hippy dippy types, maybe. ah But that that could have had a positive impact for Trump as well.
00:17:52
Speaker
Well, and you and you mentioned RFK and I'm telling you, like, I think people have tried to paint him as a little bit of a a nut job and out there. Yeah. But I was listening to, I won't give the name of the station, News Talk 1010, but I was listening to ah News Talk 1010 and they were interviewing an NBC reporter. There's a segment that happens every morning and an NBC reporter comes on.
00:18:14
Speaker
And the host at the time asked, you know where does ah RFK fit in this this this
Democratic Party's Future Challenges
00:18:20
Speaker
cabinet or this group that Trump's bringing in? Because you know he's a little bit of a nut job. He's you know he's all against that vaccines. and And the reporter, which shocked me, actually stopped the host and said, no, I'm going to correct you right there. He's actually not anti-vaccine. His kids are vaccinating all this. he said She said, what he is and in favor of is stopping Big Pharma. Because right now,
00:18:42
Speaker
You know, kids are, they're pushing to receive like 40 vaccines, whereas it used to be they would receive seven vaccines. yeah And it's gotten out of control. i was it was It was interesting because i I am guaranteeing that had Trump not won and that in I just don't see her responding like that. But it's almost like I felt like it was like she had a freedom to be like, no, no, no, wait a second. That's not the case, actually.
00:19:06
Speaker
You know what I mean? Very interesting. Yeah. Lots of cross currents and counter currents, no doubt about it. ah And now the Democratic Party is tearing itself apart post-election and there's going to be a whole narrative by the so-called progressives, I think of AOC and Bernie Sanders and and that that gang, that if only they were even more further to the left, further to, uh, you know, the, the ultra progressive wing, uh, things would have been better. So, and it's going to be really interesting to see because the center in the democratic party is, is no more. I mean, Pelosi's retired and Biden is, is almost gone. And, and so that whole brand of democratic party, uh, could be wiped out and they they're they're going to be even more extreme. Don't, don't forget that that might happen.
00:19:59
Speaker
Yeah, and and there's to be honest, there's no need for that. And I honestly believe it boils down to the two things that you talked about the two most. It was a change election, which we've seen numerous times. It happens all the time.
00:20:12
Speaker
And the second part is they didn't have enough time with the candidate. Like from from personal experience, I ran municipally ah for mayor in 2018. I didn't really start my campaign until the actual deadline of filing, which was like September. I gave myself three months and I lost. Do you know why? Because the individual that won basically had been campaigning for two years. yeah Like it's it's like,
00:20:37
Speaker
You got to remember Donald Trump's been on the ballot three times since the last, you know, since he first won. Right. Like it's it's it's it's not i'm what I'm saying is I don't think they have to overanalyze it, but no you're right. They will, though. They will. They will. This is find is a door for those extreme views to come in. Right. Right. exactly That's what I'm saying. That's what you're saying. They're trying to find excuses rather than the obvious things that are staring at them in the face for sure.
00:21:05
Speaker
Yeah I know so I was interested by all of that and and of course I went to a watch party. Did you go to a watch party? I can't remember. on Yeah it was called my living room. Okay well I went i went to the Albany Club and one of the big yeah GR firms, government relations firms, we had a big party and there were like I don't know 600 people there. It was like huge ah and that was kind of fun. So I did that for a couple of hours and then just you know, got to my own TV set and took it all in from there. But, uh, yeah, it was kind of, uh, kind of fun to be with other people. And I had my, uh, stars and stripes necktie and, uh, yeah. So I did see that picture with Rocco Rossi. Rocco Rossi had the whole, he had the tie and the jacket. I saw that. Yeah. So he was, he was decked out. Would he be a Trump guy or what? No, I wouldn't think so.
00:21:56
Speaker
You're being funny now. Well, no, I don't know. I mean, I'm sure there's lots. I guess what? There's probably lots more Trump people now. Well, that's that's true. And, you know, he gets some strange supporters. They're not strange, but it's from strange or unexpected areas is what I'm trying to say. So you can't always assume that's for sure. But can we talk a little bit about the reactions from some some of the individuals in the entertainment world, i.e. Jimmy Kimmel, the ladies from The View. I never watched The View. I know what the show is, obviously, but I never watched it. But I did go and watch back their little opening segment on the Wednesday morning, and I nearly threw up in my mouth.
00:22:44
Speaker
Like, like I was like, are you freaking kidding me right now? Yeah. Like, and then Jimmy Kimmel, I'm going to go watch his monologue and oh my word. I'm just like, what is going on? Yeah. Like he started to cry. He was weeping. He was weeping. Yeah. And he he's the guy. Wasn't he the, uh, the emcee didn't he start off the emcee of the man show? Yep.
00:23:10
Speaker
yeah He's gone from the MC of this you know hyper ah manly show called The Man Show to weeping on national television. It's so bizarre. good i look I would gladly welcome comments, feedback on- Tell us what you're thinking. Yeah, dialogue. because and i guess I got another thing to say. like ah In the line of Jimmy Kimmel and in the line of The Ladies of the View and people that we know that are just devastated.
00:23:38
Speaker
like what like what like so I heard some woman call into a show and said, you know this is just a deadly decision for the country. And I'm being honest here, what is deadly about it? Like seriously, what is deadly? thank I want you to tell me,
00:23:56
Speaker
What is deadly about Donald Trump being the president? yeah Take away all the stuff where, you're okay, ah you know the the terms, ah how he refers to women, what he's done in the past, take all that away. this I want to strip it right down. What is deadly, right? What is causing Jimmy Kimmel? Like he was talking about, like he's scared for kids. He's scared and for seniors. About what?
00:24:22
Speaker
He had a whole list of kids, seniors, middle class, the working class. They are all, ah but apparently a majority of all those segments, not kids, obviously voted for Trump. So there you go. I don't know. I just, I just want, honestly, I want someone to tell me what they're afraid of. We should, we should commend. I think it was a pretty well run election this time. I think they they made some yeah yeah changes. i thought so They counted the mail-in ballots earlier in a lot of these ah these polls in states. I think that was the right decision. ah And there was a sense of calm in America.
00:25:01
Speaker
Uh, which is good. That's good for democracy. I, as you know, or maybe you don't know, uh, this, this week I was in Ottawa and I was at the U S ambassador's residence. So, and I talked to the U S ambassador to Canada Cohen is his name. And, uh, obviously appointed by Biden, president Biden.
00:25:22
Speaker
And I thought he was, he was calm and rational about the whole thing. He said, look, you know, democracy happens, you know, some people win, some people lose. America's going to go on. Uh, and, uh, I, I said to him, I thought I threw this out at him. I said, you know, Trump 2.0 may be entirely different.
00:25:38
Speaker
than the first time. Exactly, exactly. He's going to have more experts. He has a very defined agenda now. Let's face it, 2016, a little bit less so, except building the wall and making the Mexicans pay for it. Now he knows exactly what he wants to do on immigration, exactly what he wants to do with tariffs, exactly what he wants to do with China. You know, it's all pretty well laid out. And you may not like it or you may be concerned as a Canadian about the tariffs, etc., etc.
00:26:08
Speaker
But you know where he's coming from and ah Trump 2.0, maybe, maybe more professional, more focused, more directed. He's learned a lot. He's learned a lot. He's learned a lot. Like when he went in, if you read about how he entered into the White House in 2016,
00:26:25
Speaker
I absolutely believe that he learned a ton from that experience, yeah and that he will apply what he's learned, and it will be much smoother. That's my belief. Now, some people are going, well, you know, it's narcissistic, lying, this sack of monkey, whatever, but it's like, no, like, you what do you give, give the man the benefit of the doubt for now?
00:26:46
Speaker
way We all have to do that anyway. but What choice do we have? you know and ah so yeah know i I was impressed by the US ambassador to Canada's attitude to it. I thought that was pretty professional of him.
Global Political Shifts
00:26:58
Speaker
i you know I guess they have to be professional, but they really don't have to be if they don't want to be. what what are they what what's going to you know He's going to be gone as soon as Trump is in. That's just the the way it works. they don't They don't retain the ambassadors to places like Canada. They switch them around.
00:27:13
Speaker
And and um yeah and ah different countries are already sort of acclimating to to that. and and And we should also make this point too, Jodi, that Yeah, there it was a change election because in many countries around the world, there was a record number of of elections this this year, 2024, like 80 countries or something. ah And a lot of them were change elections. this It wasn't just the United States. You look at the UK, you look at France, Germany is going to be forced an election soon. ah You know, ah only poor Canada hasn't had the ability to have a change election this year.
00:27:51
Speaker
But our time will come. But, uh, you know, this is, this is a trend post COVID. There was a lot of dissatisfaction, the inflation rate, uh, interest rates, uh, housing costs, all of these things are bearing down on people and they want change. Well, on Trudeau's Trudeau's done like he's, this is, this is just, this is just the, you know, he better get used to.
00:28:13
Speaker
Yeah. The nail on the coffin. He's done. So this is what I was in Ottawa. A lot of people were asking the question, asking me and others, you know, do you think Trudeau, what's Trudeau going to do about Donald Trump?
00:28:30
Speaker
My answer, and this is a prediction we don't know, and and Trudeau has reformed his cabinet committee on Canada-US relations with Christia Freeland as the the head of that, et cetera. So all of the advice he's going to get, the professional advice is, look, you've got youve got to learn how to work with Trump, right? It's our major trading partner. ah He holds a lot of the cards. You got to find ways to work with Trump. And yet, and yet, Jodie,
00:28:59
Speaker
there's an election coming up and he desperately wants to paint Pierre Poliev as the Trump candidate. Desperately. Excellent. And he can't, my, my prediction is he can't help himself, even though that would be really bad for Canada, US relations, he will, he, he cannot help himself. joe Yeah. You're, I don't disagree with you at all. He is just that, um, stunned enough to do that. And,
00:29:27
Speaker
I don't know if you saw, there was a Nanos poll. We picked the polls. polls yeah Yeah, exactly. Anyway, but there was a poll that came out. It's specific to liberal leadership. I don't know if you saw it where the majority of people polled, they were given multiple options in terms of a new liberal leader. Trudeau was in there, Freeland Carney, a bunch of cabinet members. But anyway, the number one response by those polled, and it looked like it was a, it looked like it was, they did polling over four times in the last year or within the last 12 months. Okay. The number one response.
00:29:56
Speaker
None of the above. None of the above. Oh, that's not good. So the liberals are in tough shape. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that that was that was Trudeau's argument to his caucus. He said, look, you can dump me, man. Dump me. But who's who's going to do better? Exactly. you know he's not He's not wrong. He's he's not wrong. at least At least I've won three campaigns, he can say. who who Anybody else won three national campaigns? No, nobody.
00:30:16
Speaker
Yeah, but sure they are so toast and I think, like here's the thing, everyone knows it except, and Trudeau might know it, but he's just like, he's just, as you said, a little bit too high on the
Speculating Trump's Second Term
00:30:30
Speaker
horse to let it to let it go, right? Yeah, I'm not quite there yet. and i You know, they've still got some arrows in their quiver and ah if I were Pierre Poliev and I know Pierre well enough to know, he's not taking anything for granted. No, no.
00:30:45
Speaker
No, no, no, he's, uh, he's going in, but he's going to go in for the kill when you he says like a shark in the water. Smells blood. So yeah. Yeah. true i don't You're not going to swim back out to the sea. You're going to, you know, start churning it up, but yeah, anyway you don't want to be spongebob. I don't know why I said that or Patrick or Patrick, the, uh, the starfish, but I will be.
00:31:09
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the greatest jobs president that God ever created. God ever created. I just i just love, I just love his, I just love his, stuff I love the fact that he had Dana White.
00:31:22
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ah Yeah, that was great. free speech And do you know, here's the other interesting thing too. And I can't remember who was breaking it down. It was someone, some pundit might've been on CNN, but ah they were talking about how the Dems were spending all their time at the doors, which obviously them yes the Republicans, and you might know where I'm going here. The Republicans were were doing the same as well but to a certain degree. but they were The Republicans were focused on these, and it's true after I thought about it, these podcasts and these different areas where I was kind of like, yeah, they're doing some different stuff. I'm like, I don't know, it's interesting. This is the future of national campaigns. That's where everyone is. That's where they are now. Barstool, Reagan. I hate to say it because I was in the radio world and I still believe in radio, but the fact is that
00:32:15
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I don't think you can put tons of money in radio. You've got to go where people are. So whether it's X, TikTok, Instagram, these podcasts like and what about that what about the impact of Elon?
00:32:27
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I think that played a role. Oh, huge. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, he was he was a factor. No question about it. I think Dana White was a factor. right Yeah. There's a lot of things he did. Hulk Hogan was a factor. Sure. Even though we just said celebrities, whatever. But it wasn't. Here's the difference, though. These the like the Elons, the Dana Whites, the Hulk Hogan's of the world, to be honest, it wasn't they weren't doing like drive by endorsements where like, no you know, so they just come out. Oh, yeah, we'll do that because we want you to win. Blah, blah, blah. These are people that.
00:32:57
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And I might be totally wrong. Elon was very invested in this. ah Totally, totally. Dana White was invested in this campaign. And I don't say mean from a fine. He might have been financially as well, but like he they they're family friends. They're there to help Hulk Hogan. Hulk Hogan was making money like that. He didn't just all of a sudden he's known Trump forever for decades. It's like, you know, so it's like that's its relationship. And people just, you know, it's make it goes a long way. It's authentic. Even with RFK.
Conclusion and Listener Invitation
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I felt they brought him into the fold and guess what he's part of the family that's right yeah i know it wasn't just for show. You're right and so i anyway it's gonna be interesting and we're gonna keep following it of course ah things are gonna calm down a bit which is good because everybody's. ah You know, everybody was just freaking out ah by the end there. So we want it. We want to dial it back a little bit. And he's now hired his chief of staff, ah first female chief of staff and and white house history. Uh, and we'll see where he goes with his cabinet picks and, uh, and other things too. So yeah, lots, lots going on there, buddy. Uh, I'll be in Washington next month. So i I'll report back to you. You're going to see, you're going to see Donald.
00:34:10
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No, I'm not. i don't But but there will be, so you know, it's another one of the Stephen Harper conferences, of course, of course, man. And ah but but there will be senators and congressmen there, that kind of thing. So get us get a sense of things for sure. but All right. Again, if you have any feedback, you disagree with us, please share it. We can take comments on our platforms. I know Spotify has a wonderful comment um section as part of their platform. So please, please do drop a note. ah Send us a ah message on our ex and Instagram anywhere, and anywhere that you find us. We love it. We'd love to hear from you. And yeah, Tony, we can wrap it up. I will give a quick shout out to John and the team at Municipal Solutions for ah continuing to be one of our presenting sponsors. Of course, you can find them at MunicipalSolutions.ca. Indeed. And of course, the Canadian Bankers Association, our newest presenting sponsor. We really appreciate ah all of their work and you can find them at CBA dot.ca. And finally, Kelly Mitchell,
00:35:10
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