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jodiejenkins: Welcome to another episode of and another thing, the podcast that continues to set the bar in the world of podcasts. My name is Jody Jenkins and we're back at it again together.
Tony Clement: My name is Tony Clement. We're back. and We are. Yeah. It's like an old tune.
jodiejenkins: You are always so upbeat for these.
Tony Clement: Well, I'm, I'm just excited. This is episode, I think 203 I'm going to say. So we're, we're a thousand.
jodiejenkins: on the march towards 1 ,000.
Tony Clement: Exactly. We'll see you in our, I see you in the nursing home.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, 1 ,000 would be a lot. I'm yawning already. like That's how excited I am.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Well, that's like kind of Joe Rogan levels of podcast. He does. He does three or four a week. So we're never going to catch him.
jodiejenkins: I was going to say we're a day, or a day.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: day yeah
Tony Clement: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. No, he's full -time at it or something. What can I tell you, man?
jodiejenkins: Well, you can't tell me much. I was going to say we're very excited to be back at it here. Each week, this show is presented by the crew at Municipal Solutions. John Mutton and his team doing a wonderful job there, and we certainly appreciate their continued support as our presenting sponsor. And Tony, I know that you can expand on what John and the crew at Municipal Solutions do, which, by the way, I haven't heard much from John lately.
Tony Clement: He's been busy. He's been busy.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
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jodiejenkins: There you go.
Tony Clement: Yeah, that's it.
jodiejenkins: Lots of, lots of supporters. And of course we're always, always welcoming more supporters.
Tony Clement: Yes, we are. We certainly have. We've had a lot of people, a lot of different sponsors over the years, Jodi. So there's no there's no effort. I mean, for for us, we we we want the effort. We want to put in the effort to get those sponsors more business and and we're open to new kind of business arrangements, whatever, right? So we're there for that.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, the other day I was talking to one of our listeners and they mentioned a former sponsor. Remember we had the Muskoka chef.
Tony Clement: The Muskoka chef.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, like she would like paddle up to your dock and bring you food or whatever.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
Tony Clement: That was, that was a year ago. We had, Muskoka chef as a sponsor.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: Yeah. there's' She's still around. I see her on Instagram. She's, she's doing her thing. So good for her. And, uh, uh, how's the Lord and lady coffee? How are they doing?
jodiejenkins: Well, Tony, they're doing well, I guess. i i know i'm just Hey, look, I'm just one of the co -owners.
Tony Clement: oh
Tony Clement: I know.
jodiejenkins: I haven't really been and been too involved in day -to -day operations as of late.
Tony Clement: I know.
jodiejenkins: It kind of takes care of itself now. But yeah, lordandlady .ca.
Tony Clement: Okay. Good for that. Yeah, sure.
jodiejenkins: You can go check it out.
Tony Clement: Why not?
jodiejenkins: Buy some coffee.
Tony Clement: Shout out to them.
jodiejenkins: Buy some coffee.
Tony Clement: absolutely Yeah.
jodiejenkins: He'll put my kids through school. so
Tony Clement: How's Looney politics? Remember them?
jodiejenkins: Yeah. I do remember them. Are we just going to, we're just going to commiserate about our old sponsors.
Tony Clement: ay
Tony Clement: Yeah, exactly. It's the whole show. No more to talk about than that for sure.
jodiejenkins: That's good.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: So you, you just got back from Ottawa.
Tony Clement: Yeah. I was there for a couple of days, just doing some business development that I do there. And then, uh, was went from Ottawa to Niagara Falls and was with a bunch of guys down there. They they had a kind of a three day golf extravaganza and we're staying at an Airbnb. I just showed up for the dinner and I think legends.
jodiejenkins: Oh, what courses were they planned here? Do you know legends on the Niagara?
Tony Clement: legends I think.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Yeah. That's the one i I can think off the top of my head. So they had, I think three rounds of golf, maybe And it was very hot down there too, but, uh, I showed up, uh, we, we ate dinner at the casino and, you know, a good, a good time was had by all. So what's going on? And then next week I will be in Africa, in Ghana, speaking at a conference on AI and tech issues. So, and, uh, no, Stephen Harper will not be there.
jodiejenkins: it' your How long are you gonna be in Ghana for?
Tony Clement: About five days in total.
jodiejenkins: Oh really?
Tony Clement: Yeah. Yeah. That's a short trip.
jodiejenkins: Man, how many countries have you been to this year so far?
Tony Clement: I don't know, you know, there's a lot of Japan, Mongolia, USA, of course, Mexico. Yeah. It's been quite the, uh, quite the ride.
jodiejenkins: And then is the disco cruise this winter or what when is that?
Tony Clement: Yeah. February that's happening in February, Jody.
jodiejenkins: February, okay.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Back on the disco cruise with the same disco cruisers from Muskoka. Uh, so everybody's exciting.
jodiejenkins: And do they, do you guys get together like your disco crew and like kind of plan out what's going to happen or are
Tony Clement: Yeah, we're having dinner later on in this month. And, uh, I'm sure there'll be a lot of discussion about the cruise coming up and, uh, all of that and what we're going to wear. And, uh, Oh my goodness. I can just imagine. So I hope not.
jodiejenkins: you getting some new gear for it or
Tony Clement: I'm just happy with, I'm just happy. I am happy to be on a cruise and, you know, dance a little bit, and have some fun.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, but you got to, you got to dress the part. Like you had some stuff last year.
Tony Clement: I know.
jodiejenkins: You don't want to freshen up the wardrobe.
Tony Clement: Oh, maybe I should order some stuff online or something. Maybe you're right. I don't know.
jodiejenkins: Well, I wouldn't.
Tony Clement: Hey listeners, tell me, tell me whether I should get some new stuff.
jodiejenkins: Well, I think you should go shopping, shop local downtown Perry sound.
Tony Clement: Let's see.
Tony Clement: Oh yeah. Don't have some good stuff. You're right.
jodiejenkins: They probably have a good disco selection in downtown Perry sound.
Tony Clement: Yeah, exactly. Just, just, this just in. Yeah, exactly.
jodiejenkins: So you mentioned AI, I've never seen so much Biden Trump memes.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: I saw one today of like Biden and Trump dancing to like this remix. No, actually it was mate the May song. I can't remember, it was Mason Biggie and Sean Puffy Combs there, but in one of their songs, Mo Money Mo Problems or something.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: But Trump and Joe Biden dancing to it.
Tony Clement: doesn Oh my gosh.
jodiejenkins: It was pretty funny actually, but there's a ton of those AI generated things now.
Tony Clement: Yeah, there is. There's so much going on. and and there did Did you know that in the UK election, there's there's a lot of these reform UK candidates and some of them they they There was the accusation was that they were AI. They weren't real because the, you know, reform UK didn't have a real history of running candidates in every constituency. So in some of the Scottish writings and some of the other ones where they had nobody, the accusation was, and if you look at the photo of one of these guys, it looks, it's, it's AI generated. So the guy had to issue a statement saying, yes, I i actually am alive. and
Tony Clement: Yes, I did an AI generated photo of myself because I couldn't find, I couldn't have the yet the time to to photograph myself in and a necktie that was turquoise. I guess those are the party colors. So anyways, it's like three or four of them but that were, the rumor was they didn't exist. They were just AI. So there you go.
jodiejenkins: That is funny.
Tony Clement: I know, I know it's the world we're in now and so much AI stuff is going to be generated in the the US presidential election. It's no no question about it. Some of it going to be very, very bad, I'm sure.
jodiejenkins: And what is your, what is your aggregator website telling you these days in terms of outcome on the presidential election down South?
Tony Clement: Neck and neck, but i will you will you agree with me that Kamala has momentum right now?
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: Do you think that's the case or is that just media generated?
jodiejenkins: Well, I mean, I mean, momentum in terms of like, sure. I mean, obviously she's not Joe Biden, but I, I still don't think that she wins. I'd still call Trump. I was, it's funny you say that cause I was listening to, who was I listening to? Who's C, CFRB news talk 10 10 the one day. And there was two parts to this, but I was, I just caught in the middle of, they had some commentary guy talking about the momentum of Kamala and you know how the the Republicans are reeling.
jodiejenkins: This was like a week and a half just after Biden announced or whatever that he was stepping out in the endorsed Harris.
Tony Clement: the whole year. yeah
jodiejenkins: So anyway, just one of the examples he gave is like, you know, in Florida, there's you know it's a Republican state and they've got those, you know, those and villages where the seniors live. There was a hundred seniors that came out with their golf carts, seniors for Kamala. And he's just going on about how like, that is such a huge indicator of the momentum that Harris has. And I'm thinking a hundred people in Florida
Tony Clement: No.
jodiejenkins: Seniors residents means squat but the funniest part was then they kind of like I think it might have been Vashi Capellos actually interviewing him and then He went off the air and she said, oh, you know, we want to thank so -and -so former former assistant or right -hand man to out or course like you know, I no wonder the guys just slam and Trump left right and center, but sure I mean sure she has momentum, but I don't know
Tony Clement: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, there's just so much of this nonsense. I mean, the latest thing is, Yeah, yeah it's it's a hundred days to go, so there's a lot of time there. and i mean The other thing, I don't know if you've noticed, but the the talking point for the Dems was to say that Trump and Vance and Republicans generally, and people who vote Republican are just plain weird. so
Tony Clement: I saw this like this collage, this audio or video collage of all of the at you know the people who were talking on behalf of the Democrats saying, they're just plain weird. you know they is like that was their That was their talking point. I don't know whether calling people who vote for your opponent weird is going to really change their minds about you. but
jodiejenkins: Yeah, and she hasn't picked a running mate yet, has she?
Tony Clement: it
Tony Clement: No, not as of this recording.
jodiejenkins: No, no.
Tony Clement: No, uh, it should, it could come up in the next couple of days, uh, because she, because they're basically the, the democratic convention. They're not the roll calls happening, you know, two or three weeks before the convention. So she's got to have her, her running mate in place before then.
jodiejenkins: OK, yeah.
Tony Clement: so can I, can I suggest, can I assert one thing? Uh, if at the end of the day, this is the, you know, Trump stumbles or doesn't win his, his biggest mistake was destroying Joe Biden in the debate. No, seriously, or agreeing to the debate in June, he should have said, yeah, yeah, I'll debate you, but I'm, I'm only going to do it after you're nominated so that they couldn't renege on it.
jodiejenkins: That's true. Yeah. is
Tony Clement: Right.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: But I mean, if he loses that will be seen as an historic mistake, I think.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, that's that's that's a tough one. I mean, yeah, I mean, why wouldn't I mean, who wouldn't take the opportunity to annihilate their opponent in a debate, though, televised, right? like
Tony Clement: Yeah, I agree.
jodiejenkins: I mean, you'd have you'd have to be a fortune teller to say, you know this is the outcome. If we beat him too bad, he may step down. so
Tony Clement: Yeah, I hear you. But that's the that's the impact, right?
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: I mean, it's a different race.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: I mean, a lot of the Democratic base is now energized, which they weren't for Biden. And a lot of young people are migrating back to to Harris after sitting it out or or maybe looking at giving a second look to Trump. so But at the same time, some older voters are now turned off Harris. So I don't know. It's a wash so far. We'll see.
jodiejenkins: That'll be, a it'll be interesting to watch and we don't have much time to wait or very long to wait and see what the outcome, the outcome is.
Tony Clement: No, no, no. Well, you got, you got the end of August is when the democratic convention is going to be, and then it's just going to be a mad dash after that. For sure.
jodiejenkins: And here in Canada, conservatives continue to keep the heat on and keep the pressure on and maintain good leads in polling.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
Tony Clement: Yeah. the No, no real change. And you know, it's the summertime I get that.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: And plus a lot of Canadians are just looking at the US right now. They're not, they're not really looking at Canadian politics. Let's be honest, right? So looking at the three.
jodiejenkins: Did you did you see that video that came out of that? I can't think of it. Is it Kian Kian Bex or something interviewing?
Tony Clement: Oh, Kenyon Beckst.
jodiejenkins: yeah Yeah. Interviewing the prime minister on the beach. Did you see that one?
Tony Clement: I saw that, yeah yeah.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: What do you think of that?
jodiejenkins: What did you make of that?
Tony Clement: I thought that was a little bit much. you know i'd I'd leave these you know leave leave our leaders alone when they're trying to take a holiday.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Oh, so now you're a Trudeau supporter.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: yeah You heard it here, Justin.
Tony Clement: You got, you got me now, Jody. I was always, I don't know.
jodiejenkins: Tony Clement endorses Trudeau.
Tony Clement: I mean, it is that's just my take on it. Maybe as a form of politician, I don't, I don't like that kind of gotcha journalism, but, uh, it happens, I guess.
jodiejenkins: Oh, yeah. I mean, obviously, it's I mean, there's nothing you can do, but I thought I actually thought Trudeau handled himself well.
Tony Clement: No. Yeah. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: He did a. yeah He did a good job of making some good points and and his son was right there and and Keenan, yeah.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: that's Is he still with Rebel News, that guy?
Tony Clement: But you, I think so. I think so.
jodiejenkins: Okay, yeah.
Tony Clement: Yeah. But you got to wonder, like, you know, Trudeau after that interview, does he go back to the house, the beach house or whatever and say, why the FMI in this business anyway, you know, have a vacation?
jodiejenkins: Yeah, exactly. What the flip am I doing in this?
Tony Clement: Yeah, exactly.
jodiejenkins: Daddy, who was that man? Oh, he's just just a friend of mine.
Tony Clement: Yeah. It's just having a chit chat on the beach. Hey, do you want, are you watching the Olympics at all?
jodiejenkins: No, no, not interested.
Tony Clement: Nothing, eh? You're not interested. Isn't golf in the Olympics this year? Or did they take it out?
jodiejenkins: Yeah, I think it starts, starts this week.
Tony Clement: Oh, okay. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: By the time this recording comes out, it will have started, but no, I don't, I have zero interest.
Tony Clement: There you go. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Maybe when the track and field starts, which was,
Tony Clement: Now, those who are paying attention to our podcast, they will recall that three years ago for the Tokyo Olympics, we had this exact same discussion about watching the Olympics. You know, and then I would I would say I'm just an Olympics nut. I watch the Olympics every single time.
jodiejenkins: Oh, and did I say I'm not watching it?
Tony Clement: Yeah, yeah, you did. Yeah, yeah.
jodiejenkins: I remember we had an Olympian on the show.
Tony Clement: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right. From Perry Sound. That's right.
jodiejenkins: Yeah. Was, was she like a, when she did something on snow skiing, ski jumping or skiing?
Tony Clement: Skiing. She was excuse skiing. Yeah, she was. Maybe I don't know. I can't remember now.
jodiejenkins: Ski cross or something. Ski cross or something like that.
Tony Clement: Yeah, there's like 15 versions of skiing now and.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, I know. Hey buddy, there's breakdancing in the Olympics.
Tony Clement: I know.
jodiejenkins: So.
Tony Clement: They don't call it breakdancing though, Jodi. Come on.
jodiejenkins: What's it called?
Tony Clement: They call it breaking.
jodiejenkins: Breaking. Yeah.
Tony Clement: Breaking.
jodiejenkins: And there's no pickleball yet, though.
Tony Clement: It's coming, I'm sure. It's going to be pickleball. It's pickleballs everywhere.
jodiejenkins: But no, i I haven't I haven't been following along other than the notoriously dirty Canadian women's soccer team and their cheating ways, which yeah I know.
Tony Clement: Yeah. And who won three games in a row and are now in the quarterfinals.
jodiejenkins: Well, they've got inside intelligence, right?
Tony Clement: That's right.
jodiejenkins: Those cheaters.
Tony Clement: Isn't that just scouting? Isn't that just scouting though? I don't get it.
jodiejenkins: I know I was thinking the same thing. I'm like, what's, again, I don't know the ins and outs of what you can and cannot do, but I'm like, if you, if you could figure out a way to find out what the other team's doing, why wouldn't you do it?
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Like, I mean, that's.
Tony Clement: Like don't don't you have a guy, don't they have like for ho hockey scrimmages and stuff like that, don't they have scouts in the stands watching scrimmages and stuff like that?
jodiejenkins: Yeah, I don't know. I don't, I mean, I don't know about scouts, but yes, no, people go and watch hockey scrimmages all the time. However, I do know that in like football, you can't like, it's a no -no.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: So it must be in soccer, the same thing. Like you can't go and watch football teams practice or they have closed practices and stuff.
Tony Clement: Okay.
Tony Clement: and Okay.
jodiejenkins: because of, because of special plays, right? Which I guess in theory could be the same as what's going on with soccer. Maybe they have closed practices where no one is allowed to watch because you know, they're setting up special place.
Tony Clement: Right.
jodiejenkins: But again, I would say all's fair in love and sport. So I mean, if you know that, that I don't doubt at all.
Tony Clement: Well, it could it could be a situation, Jodi, where the Canadians were doing what everybody else does, except we got caught. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: That I don't doubt. So now we have Ben Johnson, and we have the the cheating Canadian women's soccer team.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Yeah. and but But Ben Johnson was the only guy who ever took steroids. Come on, Jodi. The only guy.
jodiejenkins: But that guy capitalized so well on it. Remember the Cheetah energy drink that he was pushing? yeah like that He made a ton off that, I would think.
Tony Clement: No, he did okay. He did okay.
jodiejenkins: By the way, the soccer thing, I read an article today, like the FIFA released a thing saying, or or whoever the governing ball, I must admit FIFA, but they released a thing saying that they believe that all this i spying stuff goes back to the previous coach, that John Herdman guy.
Tony Clement: Oh, really?
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: I mean, interesting.
jodiejenkins: Like they're saying it's been going, which again, kind of lends credibility to what you said about, we got caught that everyone does this.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Cause I mean, I'm sure there's some teams that are like wiping their brow going, OK, guys, shut down the spying for a couple weeks.
Tony Clement: Yeah, exactly. But holy smokes.
jodiejenkins: But life.
Tony Clement: But anyway, they look good. i I will be honest with our listeners. I haven't watched a lot of women's soccer in my day, but i in my life. But I watched the game against France and I watched the game against Colombia, which launched them into the quarters. And it's it's an it's an entertaining sport. Women's soccer is very entertaining, I got to say.
jodiejenkins: I watch women's soccer every Monday here at the local park with my daughter, is who scored her first goal not that long ago.
Tony Clement: Monday. Yeah.
Tony Clement: Oh, fantastic.
jodiejenkins: So that was exciting.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: but the you Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tony Clement: Is it still kind of like banana ball? You know, they're all bunched up around the ball or Oh no.
jodiejenkins: They're all there. Got to learn how to spread out. the The biggest excitement at the soccer game last week was the three baby squirrels that had apparently fallen out of their nest right beside the field. that was
Tony Clement: Were were they, were they freaking out or what what was going on?
jodiejenkins: that was Who, the squirrels or the kids?
Tony Clement: Uh, both.
jodiejenkins: Yes, and yes.
Tony Clement: Oh dear.
jodiejenkins: The squirrels weren't doing so well.
Tony Clement: No.
jodiejenkins: In fact, my dad fixed that problem. He guided them into the garbage cans.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Oh, don't worry kids.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tony Clement: I'll look after them.
jodiejenkins: But yeah, that's, yeah, so yeah, soccer, I mean, yeah, soccer's great.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: But I was gonna say too, like even if the women win a medal, any type of medal, it's gonna be tainted. I mean, how can it not be?
Tony Clement: Yeah.
Tony Clement: Well, but except that they paid the price, which was, uh, they deducted six points from them and, uh, yeah.
jodiejenkins: No, I know, but like you could literally say, well, how we don't know what kind of inside intelligence they have on us on the other teams.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Yeah. And that's a good point, but, uh, eh, I'd rather win the medal medal and defend against that than lose the medal.
jodiejenkins: Anyway.
Tony Clement: So it's all about winning for me.
jodiejenkins: you don' almost want you You wonder though, because you know it's it's interesting, because like if that is considered cheating, right and they had six points stripped or whatever,
Tony Clement: Mm -hmm. which it is. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: But then, you know, because they go back to Ben Johnson. I mean, what Ben Johnson was did was considered cheating, but they took his medal away.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Which I'm still I don't know if I've said this on the show before, but I'm a big supporter.
Tony Clement: That's right.
jodiejenkins: I'm a big proponent of I think they should do the all juice Olympics. Like if if people want to be steroid, have take take as many steroids and whatever are enhancing drugs as they want. I want to watch that. I'm all for it.
Tony Clement: Wow.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: Interesting.
jodiejenkins: Why not?
Tony Clement: Huh? Yeah, sure.
jodiejenkins: Why not?
Tony Clement: Okay.
jodiejenkins: Can you believe it? The world record for the new world record for the 100 meter dash, three seconds.
Tony Clement: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: No, I'd love to see that. I mean, that the reality is, is like it's drug like you know that every country is still trying to get an edge.
Tony Clement: Oh, yeah.
jodiejenkins: And so and I did watch, because as you know, I'm a big wrestling fan and there's a great A and &E.
Tony Clement: 100%. Yeah. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: documentary series on the legends of wrestling and one of them was on Mark Henry and he was a he was an Olympic power lifter weight lifter and his story is pretty cool.
Tony Clement: Okay.
jodiejenkins: He ended up in wwe WWE but one of the things was is that he was all natural and USA had never won a medal and they didn't win when he was he was competing but His big point was he was all natural and he he was very vocal about how he did not like how the other countries were we're doping so badly to to win, right?
Tony Clement: Really?
jodiejenkins: But he they refused to do it and they didn't win, but it's like he was very vocal to the point where they like were going to threaten that he would never lift again. But then he became so popular and people started listening and he kind of turned the tide on. on the lifting world, but I still think countries are still trying to get an upper hand wherever they can.
Tony Clement: Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah. Is there any juicing in golf? Pro golf?
jodiejenkins: and I'm sure there is, they do drug testing.
Tony Clement: Seriously. They do. They do drug testing for golf.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, yeah.
Tony Clement: Oh, wow.
jodiejenkins: But I don't know that that steroids would be a drug that would enhance
Tony Clement: Okay.
jodiejenkins: what those guys and girls do, right? Maybe certain ones. I mean, there's other things, you know, there's other drugs they test for, including like beta blockers, uh, which is a, which is a, you know, can slow your heart rate down, right?
Tony Clement: OK.
jodiejenkins: That, that could be handy when putting or, you know, you know, bringing yourself down.
Tony Clement: Wow. Good putting, yeah.
jodiejenkins: So like things like that's just one example, but you know, a guy on human growth hormone, I don't know how often that happens and, and
Tony Clement: So at an endless summer this past summer, did it was there a little bit of testing that had to go on?
jodiejenkins: Oh, sorry. That's long drive. There's no, there's no testing in long drive.
Tony Clement: No, no, no testing for the Hong Kong. OK, it's the Wild West, is it?
jodiejenkins: and im But I'm not, I'm not, yeah, and I'm not saying that I'm not saying, I'm not saying that they do it, but I'm just saying there's no, there's no testing in long.
Tony Clement: and Okay.
jodiejenkins: I think at one point they did some drug testing, but yeah, well, it's got, I mean, it's like, look at, like, like, you know, I don't know how, you know, we're in this drug testing discussion now, but like, you know, again, going back to wrestling when,
Tony Clement: And then they gave up.
Tony Clement: Yeah, yeah.
jodiejenkins: you know Remember the steroid scandal with Hogan and Vince McMahon back in the day and you know now you've got drug testing there. But again, the words drug testing, that that that may sound good and that may make people feel better, but the the process or the the the actual rules around it, that changes the game because like, okay, you could say we drug test. Okay, when do you drug test? Well, we drug test every six months. Okay, so if someone can get on something for five months and then make sure they're clean for that, like, I mean, there's ways around all this stuff, right?
Tony Clement: Yeah. Yeah.
Tony Clement: and Always this always is, as you say, people are always trying to get a leg up somehow.
jodiejenkins: So, yeah, so.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, and that's why, and again, in the you in the in the Olympics, that's why they like they do crazy drug testing there is that's what I'm told.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: But the reason they do it is because obviously people are trying to to break the rules.
Tony Clement: Right. And it's not, it's not just individuals.
jodiejenkins: So I just say, yeah.
Tony Clement: It's actual countries too, like China or Russia or whatever.
jodiejenkins: But again, I go back to why not let everybody do what they want? like I mean, like I don't care.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: I'd love to see it. I'd love to see someone swim in a crazy, crazy speeds and you know what I mean?
Tony Clement: Well, it's not good.
jodiejenkins: like
Tony Clement: It's not good for their health, Jodi.
jodiejenkins: Well, no, I get that, but that's also a personal choice.
Tony Clement: Come on.
jodiejenkins: like that you know I mean, it's it is what it is, and like people diving.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Well, fair enough. Yeah. Yeah.
Tony Clement: you think there's Do you think there's steroids or or drug or doping going on in the podcast industry?
jodiejenkins: and
jodiejenkins: It's rampant. We're trying to, you and I, heard we're trying to stop it. That's actually, that's a good segue.
Tony Clement: That's yes's right
jodiejenkins: This is part of our, we're actually going to be doing a public service announcements on stopping the rampant use of human growth hormone in podcasts because it's just out of control.
Tony Clement: yeah's right That's right.
jodiejenkins: I don't know if you've seen, no, no, like, I mean, you and I are jacked already.
Tony Clement: we're not We're not casting aspersions to anybody like Joe Rogan or anybody.
jodiejenkins: So it's not really something we're needing to take, but no.
Tony Clement: That's right.
jodiejenkins: No, it's yeah that's a good good question. and if And if it was, I would say kudos to whoever wants to do it.
Tony Clement: Exactly. Go out there and do your podcast and it's still a growing industry.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, we're clean, though.
Tony Clement: and Yeah.
jodiejenkins: this i' I'm going to go on record right now that and another thing is a 100 % clean, clean.
Tony Clement: A hundred percent clean. Our sponsors must know this fact too, that we're not, we're not juicing just to, uh, and that's it.
jodiejenkins: Yes, we're not juicing.
Tony Clement: That's it.
jodiejenkins: that's all natural. This show is all natural.
Tony Clement: Yeah, not au naturale, but all natural. Yeah, I get it.
jodiejenkins: What else you got coming up other than your trip to Africa, Disco Cruise, are you coming through to golf anytime soon or?
Tony Clement: Yeah.
Tony Clement: I should do that. I did play four rounds last week, which is a record for this summer for me.
jodiejenkins: Did you get any better?
Tony Clement: No, and not really.
jodiejenkins: and
Tony Clement: yeah I lost.
jodiejenkins: oh
Tony Clement: fear of i There was one round where I didn't lose the ball the entire entire round. So that was I was very happy about that.
jodiejenkins: You played around with the same ball.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Wow, that's that's a huge accomplishment.
Tony Clement: I thought so.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: The score wasn't great, but it was the same ball throughout the whole thing.
jodiejenkins: Yeah. What, was this all at Granite Ridge or?
Tony Clement: Seguin Valley for two rounds and Granite Ridge for two rounds.
jodiejenkins: Okay.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Yeah. Sequin Valley is near Perry sound. Oh, uh, next week, uh, my wife and I are going to be, uh, driving to Manitoulin Island and stay and staying with, uh, no, no, we're going to go actually on the Island.
jodiejenkins: Oh yes, you got a tober mori? oh
Tony Clement: Uh, I think, uh, the other route, the more Eastern route, and we'll be staying with somebody you might know.
jodiejenkins: OK, give me a hint.
Tony Clement: Steve, thank you. Steve pagan.
jodiejenkins: Come on.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: You're staying with Steve Paken.
Tony Clement: And his wife Francesca, yes.
jodiejenkins: Wow.
Tony Clement: I thought you'd like that.
jodiejenkins: Well, I'm actually offended now.
Tony Clement: You didn't get the invite.
jodiejenkins: I never I never got the invite.
Tony Clement: Nothing, nothing.
jodiejenkins: I think the only invite I've ever got from Steve, not that I'm not downplaying it, is it was a book signing thing, which is great.
Tony Clement: Yeah, yeah, okay.
jodiejenkins: I wasn't able to make it, but I mean, that pales in comparison to you know, spending the night with like that.
Tony Clement: yeah Three nights, three nights.
jodiejenkins: I'm I'm just I don't even I don't even know what to say right now. I don't even know what to say.
Tony Clement: I'm sorry to spring this on you, but we we had to we had to get our our quota in of Steve Paikin references to those.
jodiejenkins: By the way.
jodiejenkins: By the by the way, and so Steve, obviously I'll get an email about this, but can you do you know the name of that ferry? Is it that goes from Manitoulin Island to I don't know where it goes to, but you know what I'm talking about or no?
Tony Clement: yeah
jodiejenkins: Don't look it up. Do you know it?
Tony Clement: Theoretically, I know. No, I don't.
jodiejenkins: Oh, I believe it's called the Chi -Chi -Mon.
Tony Clement: What's it called?
Tony Clement: the Chi Chi Man. Okay.
jodiejenkins: Does that sound right?
Tony Clement: I don't know. It sounds better than what I would have called it.
jodiejenkins: What would you have called it?
Tony Clement: I know. I know. I would have called it the the Black Pearl. I don't know.
jodiejenkins: The black, you would have, I'm sure Steve, I'm gonna get some sort of email.
Tony Clement: From Pirates of the Caribbean.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, it's called the MS Chi -Chi -Mon. But I, it's Canadian passenger and vehicle ferry in Ontario, which traverses Lake Huron between Tobermory on the Bruce Peninsula, and so came out on Manitoulin Island.
Tony Clement: Okay. Yeah. Tobermory. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: But I'm sure I'll get some sort of email from Steve telling me some other obscure fact about the Chi Chi Mon. And maybe that's, yeah, anyway, like I can't believe it.
Tony Clement: That's right.
Tony Clement: Named after some and indigenous leader. Yeah, exactly.
jodiejenkins: Like, man, like he got involved, like he actually like reached out and said, hey, we'd like for you to come and spend three nights at our palatial.
Tony Clement: Yeah, I know.
Tony Clement: I don't know. He didn't mention palatial, but but my my wife has never been to Manitoulin Island.
jodiejenkins: Okay.
Tony Clement: Never.
jodiejenkins: Oh, we've been. I went when I was a little kid.
Tony Clement: Oh, i've I've been like half a dozen times. I love it.
jodiejenkins: Oh, seriously?
Tony Clement: Oh, it's a great, it's it's a wonder of the world. It has a hundred lakes on on the island.
jodiejenkins: I can't believe it.
Tony Clement: It's the biggest fresh water biggest freshwater island in the world or something.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, yeah, I just I'm just I'm floored. I just I'm sorry. I just reeling here.
Tony Clement: I'm sorry, you're you just can't get you can't continue now.
jodiejenkins: I can't I can't focus now. I can't focus. I'm just like, you know, I just yeah yeah, you would have been better off to just not say anything.
Tony Clement: Sorry, man. Well, but I get to report in a future podcast about how it went.
jodiejenkins: no Yeah, I'm sure sure that I'll be the subject of of of some dinner conversation Yeah, I want to know what kind of dinners they have actually Yes, I want to hear what kind of yes, yes, I want pictures of the dinners and know how much is this their house or is this like a cottage and
Tony Clement: We'll we'll we'll to will'll toast you. Okay. and You want me to write about the dinners? Okay. I'll maybe take some screenshots. Okay, sure. Okay. Cottage.
jodiejenkins: caught it. I want to know if he has any Red Sox paraphernalia there.
Tony Clement: Oh, good question.
jodiejenkins: yeah yeah so And of course, speaking of the Red Sox, did you, you know, the trade deadline just came recently passed in the MLB.
Tony Clement: Yeah, I, I'm going to bet dollars to donuts. There are, he's such a big red Sox fan.
jodiejenkins: And of course, did you hear the interesting story about, you know, Danny Jansen, who was a catcher for the Jays and got traded to the Red Sox?
Tony Clement: You got traded. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Yeah. But have you said you haven't heard about this history making opportunity that's coming up because I think
Tony Clement: No.
jodiejenkins: So they had a game, the Jays and the Red Sox played a game in April, I believe, where it was stopped in the sixth inning or fifth inning and they weren't able to finish it. So they stopped the game and they are going to complete it.
Tony Clement: Oh.
jodiejenkins: I believe it's this next week. They they have a series coming up. So anyway, Danny Jansen was the catcher in that game. And there's a possibility that he could be the catcher for the, for the red Sox when they continue the game, which would be the first time in history that a player has played for both teams in the same game.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
Tony Clement: That's great. And is it the like the longest game in history too? Cause it's like months apart.
jodiejenkins: Well, I guess, I mean, if you, if you, if you, I guess if you count all the time in between, but yeah, isn't that wild?
Tony Clement: Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. I never even thought of it. Yeah, that's amazing.
jodiejenkins: It's not wild. So that's a good little, That's a good, so if that happens, Danny Janssen will go down as a, that's got to be a, that's a Jeopardy question for sure.
Tony Clement: Do we agree that this year the Jays suck?
jodiejenkins: I don't know. I mean, they sucked. Like they just got smoked by Baltimore. They won one game, but like, I don't know what to make of them.
Tony Clement: Baltimore like four games in her own. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Vladdy's playing really well.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: I like what Vladdy's doing, but they're obviously not, they didn't blow out as many people as everyone thought they would. So they're obviously going to be spending some money on the off season.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: I think they're going to try and
Tony Clement: Do they actually spend money, though? Do they?
jodiejenkins: Well, they're going to do something for 25 because they're going to, they're going to give it one last run for like now.
Tony Clement: Do they spend money?
Tony Clement: They better do something.
jodiejenkins: Otherwise, otherwise they're going to tear it all down. So I'm still one of those fans that like, you know, they're on the 11 games out or 10 games out of a wildcard.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Well, I mean, maybe they got to do that. Yeah, I agree.
jodiejenkins: It's not impossible, right?
Tony Clement: okay Sure.
jodiejenkins: But Jody, there's only four games left. Hey, hey, hey, shut your mouth.
Tony Clement: Sure. what's What's the magic number?
jodiejenkins: You know? Yeah. So.
Tony Clement: 123. Oh, okay. Anyway, we'll see what happens there.
jodiejenkins: Well, when you're up at Steve's place, don't be shocked if all of a sudden you're like, oh, someone's at the door, you know?
Tony Clement: yeah That's right.
jodiejenkins: Hello?
Tony Clement: You'll be bringing a casserole or something.
jodiejenkins: Anyone in there? just be I'll just be like, I was like, Steve? Tony, what are you guys doing up here?
Tony Clement: where he What a quinity.
jodiejenkins: I was just on the just on the MS Chi Chi, man. Thought I'd swing over.
Tony Clement: Popeye, that's right. Yeah, you're asking to all the all the locals about what which one is pagans cottage I'm sorry, man.
jodiejenkins: no Man, I don't think I'm going to be able to sleep tonight now either.
Tony Clement: I ruined it for you.
jodiejenkins: peace Anyway.
Tony Clement: I've ruined the podcast Yes
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Tony Clement: you You too, my friend.
