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Are podcasts killing the radio star?
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This week on the show, Jodie and Tony assess the current state of the media world in light of many radio stations being shut down across Canada. Will radio ever recover? Are podcasts destined to take over? Find out the answers to these and many other questions this week on the podcast that continues to "set the bar" for podcasts!
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Transcript
Intro
Kicking Off the Episode with Energy
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jodiejenkins
Welcome to, and another thing, the podcast that continues to set the bar in the world of podcasts. My name is Jody Jenkins, and we have an absolute banger, a banger of an episode for you tonight.
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Tony Clement
And my name is Tony Clement. A banger.
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Tony Clement
That God ever
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jodiejenkins
There you go, right there.
Cameo Fantasies: Impersonators and Endorsements
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Tony Clement
created.
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jodiejenkins
There you go, right there, right there, right there.
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Tony Clement
That's a banger.
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jodiejenkins
Let's, we should ask, it it's too bad he's not on, well, I shouldn't say I don't know that he, on Cameo, because we should get him to do like, you I know who is on Cameo, lots of impersonators of Trump, but we should get, we should get a sound bite of, this is the greatest podcast that God ever created.
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Tony Clement
impersonators. Yeah.
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Tony Clement
That's right. Heard it from the source.
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jodiejenkins
So, like I got to hear that again, because I just love how he, he nails it there.
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Tony Clement
you Do it.
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Tony Clement
There we go.
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jodiejenkins
I think the kicker is how confident he is in saying that.
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Tony Clement
Oh, yeah.
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jodiejenkins
Like he doesn't question it.
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Tony Clement
There's no question.
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jodiejenkins
He believes it.
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Tony Clement
There's no question.
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jodiejenkins
He believes it.
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Tony Clement
Yeah, absolutely.
Celebrating Our Sponsors
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jodiejenkins
So anyway, this show each week is brought to you by the crew at municipal solutions.
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Tony Clement
Yeah.
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jodiejenkins
Of course, John mutton and his team doing an unbelievable job in the municipal world and beyond. And I know Tony, that you can expand on exactly what they do besides, besides winning medals and, and, and and trophies.
00:01:56
Tony Clement
yeah Yeah, he's got the gold medal in something.
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jodiejenkins
and trophies, John does have an amazing team that does some amazing work. So why don't you share a little bit about that.
00:02:04
Tony Clement
Sure. Well, let's start off with that. They're Ontario's leading MZO firm and they are there for development services, project management services. If you need a development approved or permit expedited that planning services, all with municipalities that got a big municipal conference in Ontario going on in Ottawa right now, engineering services, architectural services, minor variances, land severances. It's all there.
00:02:29
Tony Clement
at municipalsolutions.ca. And I think this, I think we, this is the time where we can congratulate John Mutton for his personal bests in jujitsu.
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Tony Clement
He was in Las Vegas for some international event and came back with a mittful of medals, Jodi, a mittful. He was, he's, he's like the greatest jujitsu that God ever created right there.
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jodiejenkins
he's like a yeah he's like a winner all the time now he's like that's what that's what he needs right there
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Tony Clement
Jiu-Jitsu.
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Tony Clement
Oh my gosh, should we crack us up?
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jodiejenkins
the
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Tony Clement
Anyway, we also want to thank KWM Consulting. Of course, they're a newer sponsor, and but KWM have been in the lobbying and advocacy business for over 23 years. They support companies to deal with governments and they believe in honest and ethical advice and the value of hard work.
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Tony Clement
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An Amusing Recognition and Listener Interaction at the Gym
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jodiejenkins
And Tony, tell tell the story. You called me the other day, left a voicemail, and shared a little bit about a listener story.
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Tony Clement
Yeah.
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jodiejenkins
But tell me tell me about it, because I think it's a pretty funny story.
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Tony Clement
Yeah. Okay. Sure. So I was at the gym doing my workout in Huntsville, Ontario in Muskoka. And this gentleman approached me and said, excuse me, are you Tony Clement? I said, yes, I am. And he said, well, I just want to say I really first first of all, thank you for your service to our country. You did a great job. And he said, oh, yeah, are you from the area? And he says, well, my parents are from the area, but I'm i'm actually a political science professor at Bishop University and in the province of Quebec. And they're like, oh, OK. Wow. wow
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Tony Clement
Thank you. And then he said, and I especially love your podcast. and And I always do this thing because I don't know whether they're speaking about my boom and bust but but broadcast or whether they're talking about and another thing podcast.
00:04:55
Tony Clement
And I said, are you talking about the broadcast? And he said, no, no, your podcast and another thing you and Jody Jenkins. I said, OK, well, thank you for listening. and he He listens to every episode.
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Tony Clement
So.
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jodiejenkins
Now, Tony, Tony, like, let's be honest here, I know you've got a great TV show and i'm we're very proud of you, but clearly, clearly the the majority of people that are coming up to you are not talking about the TV program.
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Tony Clement
Yes, yes.
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Tony Clement
Clearly.
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Tony Clement
No, no, you're right, Joni. It's all about the podcast. And we appreciate all of our listeners because they're obviously very fanatical about it. And yeah, this is a political science prof who listens to this podcast on a regular basis.
Is Podcasting the Future? The End of Traditional Radio?
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jodiejenkins
Yeah, and i thought I thought that was an interesting story. And then the another interesting story in the world of podcasts that I wanted to share, and a kind of a multiple angles on this, but you're always sending me articles about the podcast industry.
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Tony Clement
Yes.
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jodiejenkins
Tony's very good at doing that type of thing and staying up to date on podcasts. I don't think I ever send articles on podcasts. And so I do appreciate you doing that.
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jodiejenkins
But anyway, One thing I'm starting to see the trend is like like if we stick at this and keep going, there's no question that we'll be billionaires very soon.
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Tony Clement
Apparently, I mean, it's it's a very good
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jodiejenkins
Like radio is being gutted if you if you believe everything that you read.
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Tony Clement
Well, radio is, I mean, they're talking about AM radio dying and they're talking about talk radio dying. That was the latest article I read today. I think I sent you that one too, didn't I?
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Tony Clement
About talk radio.
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jodiejenkins
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Tony Clement
And of course, CHML in Hamilton is no more.
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jodiejenkins
Well, this is yeah, go ahead, sorry.
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Tony Clement
I mean, it's, it's shuttered and it's been around for almost a hundred years, Jodi. It's crazy.
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jodiejenkins
Yeah. And it's interesting. It's interesting because I mean, you've seen, you know, this isn't just a Canadian thing, by the way. And the article you sent me talks about this happening in the States.
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Tony Clement
No, no, no. new New York City, everywhere.
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jodiejenkins
It's like, yeah, there's trends. There's trends all over. And, you know, in Canada specifically, obviously we had Bell Media with massive layoffs and more still to come.
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Tony Clement
Right.
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jodiejenkins
Or sorry, cuts, not just layoffs. People they're not they're people aren't coming back.
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Tony Clement
Cuts.
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jodiejenkins
And that's across the board. That's not just in their media broadcasting entities. It's across the board. But chorus entertainment, same type of thing just happened.
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Tony Clement
Same thing. Yeah.
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jodiejenkins
Shuttering stations, closing them down, shutting things down. So it's it's interesting. I mean, I'm a radio person by trade, been in the business for over 20 years.
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jodiejenkins
So it's like, part of me still wants to believe that radio is viable. And I'm not saying it's not. It's just much, much different. like People like the the generations that are coming up now consume in a much, much different way, right?
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Tony Clement
Yes.
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jodiejenkins
Like it's it's short, quick sound bites, it's short, quick clips, and it literally is, it can be accessed anywhere, like whether it's X,
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Tony Clement
Yes, we do.
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jodiejenkins
whether it's Instagram, whether it's TikTok, and I'll give you a perfect YouTube, yeah like a perfect example is like, yeah again, I've talked about many, many a time on the show, like I'm a huge wrestling fan.
00:07:43
Tony Clement
YouTube. Yeah.
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jodiejenkins
I don't even need to watch wrestling on television. It used to be only that if you only had cable. that you could watch like say Monday Night Raw on WWE, et cetera, et cetera.
00:07:57
Tony Clement
Right.
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jodiejenkins
But I don't even need to watch it on television because WWE wwe for years now puts the most, you know, the best content, the most viewed content bang on X bang on Instagram.
00:08:10
Tony Clement
Right.
00:08:15
jodiejenkins
Like you, you can stay up to date with the show without even turning the TV on. And I think that's, yeah.
00:08:19
Tony Clement
Yeah. 100%. Yeah. I mean, and hockey playoffs, same thing. but when i'm When I'm not glued to the tube for whatever reason, I just i just see the highlights as the goals are scored.
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jodiejenkins
Yeah.
00:08:29
Tony Clement
they're They're recording
Electric Vehicles and the Decline of AM Radio
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Tony Clement
them and putting them on X or wherever.
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jodiejenkins
Yeah. So, I mean, in the radio world, of course, the yeah the the argument is that, we're you know, areas are losing that local flavor, that local touch.
00:08:44
jodiejenkins
And I, again, I don't disagree with that, but the model is broken and clearly advertising dollars and revenue is down.
00:08:48
Tony Clement
Yeah.
00:08:52
jodiejenkins
You know, I'm sure there's some stations that are doing well, don't get me wrong. But overall, I think that, you know, it's a wake up call and I think this will continue to happen, to be honest.
00:09:01
Tony Clement
I think so and you probably are aware and maybe our listeners are aware too that the AM radio is under direct threat from electric vehicles because a a lot of the manufacturers of electric vehicles don't want to include AM radio in the vehicle at all because because the frequency interferes with certain electrical systems in the car.
00:09:19
jodiejenkins
Okay.
00:09:25
jodiejenkins
Okay.
00:09:25
Tony Clement
So they're, they're just, they're kind of insisting that there be no am radio, which would be the death knell of an entire genre. Like am radio was, it was the original radio before FM.
00:09:33
jodiejenkins
Yeah.
00:09:37
Tony Clement
And, uh, and now there's like, I think there's a bill before Congress to prevent Tesla and other manufacturers from, from not including am radio, but I don't know where that's going to lead.
00:09:50
Tony Clement
But if, if that ever comes to pass, that'll be another tectonic shift for sure.
00:09:55
jodiejenkins
But, and I don't know if we're at liberty to share this yet, but what the electric companies have looked at doing with their cars across the board is making, and another thing, mandatory in every car.
00:10:10
Tony Clement
Yes. That's true. Yes.
00:10:12
jodiejenkins
So 100%, like they'll pull you over and they'll ask, what are you listening to?
00:10:12
Tony Clement
In in in a constant loop.
00:10:18
Tony Clement
What are you listening to?
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jodiejenkins
And there's like, there's a couple top options and and another thing is right up there.
00:10:23
Tony Clement
and Right up there, and and they've got to be able to say that we set the bar.
00:10:27
jodiejenkins
Exactly.
00:10:29
Tony Clement
And we're the greatest thing that God has ever provided, or whatever the cord is.
00:10:34
jodiejenkins
But I will tell you this, and this i mean I'm not going to get into all the numbers. It's all public public knowledge and available to the public on CRTC. But man, you and I, we could have bought a couple of stations on the cheap.
00:10:46
jodiejenkins
I was looking at what Bell sold some of their stations for.
00:10:46
Tony Clement
Yeah.
00:10:50
Tony Clement
Yeah.
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jodiejenkins
Crazy. Crazy.
00:10:52
Tony Clement
Like $10,000 or something or okay.
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jodiejenkins
Like crazy. Well, no, not that low. Like, let's not be ridiculous.
00:10:57
Tony Clement
That'd be totally okay.
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jodiejenkins
But, but like, no, like if someone if someone said to you that, like, again, I'm not going to give this specific station because I don't want to screw up the numbers.
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Tony Clement
Okay.
00:11:05
jodiejenkins
But if someone said to you, you know, buy this, you know, how much do you think a radio station in, like, Kingston or, you know, like, Oshawa would be?
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Tony Clement
Big market. Yeah. Big market.
00:11:16
jodiejenkins
You'd go, like, yeah I would think, I mean, staffing, lease obligations, building.
00:11:21
Tony Clement
Couple million. Yeah.
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jodiejenkins
Yes.
00:11:23
Tony Clement
Yeah.
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jodiejenkins
Couple million.
00:11:24
Tony Clement
Yeah.
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jodiejenkins
Try like a third of that.
00:11:27
Tony Clement
Wow.
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jodiejenkins
Yeah, for some of them.
00:11:28
Tony Clement
Wow.
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jodiejenkins
Yeah.
00:11:30
Tony Clement
That's bananas, man.
00:11:30
jodiejenkins
Yeah.
00:11:31
Tony Clement
Yeah.
00:11:31
jodiejenkins
I know. like and as as a Again, as a radio guy, if someone said if someone said to me, you can have your own radio station for half a million, and they were serious, I'd be like, I'm getting people together to do that.
00:11:42
Tony Clement
Yeah. Yeah.
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jodiejenkins
Because that's like that's just mind blowing. So anyway.
00:11:46
Tony Clement
the The other thing, of course, that people don't realize, Jodi, is that now moving away from radio per se, but talking about journalism and journalists, the Trudeau government is subsidizing journalist positions to the extent of $60,000 a year.
00:12:08
jodiejenkins
Wow.
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Tony Clement
So if if you've got a journalist make an 80 K, 60,000 of that is coming from the Canadian government.
00:12:12
jodiejenkins
Yeah.
00:12:17
jodiejenkins
Wow.
00:12:18
Tony Clement
I mean, that's crazy.
00:12:19
jodiejenkins
That's crazy.
00:12:20
Tony Clement
And that that's, that's why some people, I'm not saying all people, but some people have a sc skepticism, shall we say about whether these journalists and, or their parent company can be truly unbiased when it comes to reporting the news.
00:12:29
jodiejenkins
Yo, yes.
00:12:38
jodiejenkins
Yeah,
Political Drama: Biden's Moves and Strategies
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jodiejenkins
no, it makes makes a good point.
00:12:39
Tony Clement
It's a problem. It's a problem.
00:12:41
jodiejenkins
move Moving on to other topics, of course, Democrats gathering and giving Joe Biden kind of a ceremonial send off.
00:12:53
jodiejenkins
And of course we're hearing a push off.
00:12:53
Tony Clement
You could call it a send off or a push off at 11 o'clock at night.
00:12:59
jodiejenkins
Yeah, it just gets up on stage, starts to speak and they're like, thank you, Joe.
00:13:02
Tony Clement
Thanks.
00:13:03
jodiejenkins
Let's get my end.
00:13:03
Tony Clement
Yeah, this is a big hook. Yeah, exactly. Oh my gosh. Yeah, no.
00:13:06
jodiejenkins
it's it's It's interesting.
00:13:07
Tony Clement
And and there is a there is a conspiracy theory, of course, that they the Democrats deliberately delayed things so that he wouldn't be in prime time when he was doing his speech.
00:13:17
jodiejenkins
yeah Oh my gosh.
00:13:18
Tony Clement
I don't know whether they could be that cruel, but I mean, politics is cruel, let's face it. So yeah, I mean, And he he, as soon as he finished, he hopped on a plane and went to California.
00:13:29
Tony Clement
He did not stay for the rest of the Democratic convention, including the speeches of of the Obamas and the night after.
00:13:31
jodiejenkins
Wow.
00:13:36
Tony Clement
So, yes, it's I think it's it's a little bit still bit but sore with him, as one could imagine, that his erstwhile friends were busy stabbing him multiple times in the back when when they decided he was done, you know.
00:13:49
jodiejenkins
Yeah, that's gotta be rough.
00:13:54
Tony Clement
It's got to be dropped.
00:13:55
jodiejenkins
What a series of events say over the last month.
00:13:56
Tony Clement
Oh, can you imagine like in the last month, all of this has happened, you know, a month ago, we were still in the Republican convention and things look very different, but no, they listened.
00:14:08
Tony Clement
Uh, I'll say it, uh, Kamala Harris has got momentum and, uh, she's playing on that and she's got a lot of smart people that are playing on that. So we'll see where it takes her in the next 75 days.
00:14:22
jodiejenkins
I'm still sticking with Donald.
00:14:25
Tony Clement
The Donald?
00:14:25
jodiejenkins
Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't think anyone's really paying attention. And these are kind of like the dog days of summer. and I think the the only the only people paying attention are people like you and me, people that are you know in the bubble, you know people that eat, sleep, and breathe that stuff.
00:14:32
Tony Clement
That's true.
00:14:35
Tony Clement
at politicoats Yeah, politicals, yeah.
00:14:41
jodiejenkins
But I think the average individual, not even checked in. So i'm I'm still maintaining that once people start to focus on the actual race, focus on the messaging, I fully expect that Trump's team will start to change the message a bit.
00:14:58
Tony Clement
But with you yeah, I mean, I mean, he's got two, two issues that he is very strong on according to the polls and that's immigration and the economy.
00:14:59
jodiejenkins
but
00:15:08
Tony Clement
So if he can be disciplined about things and just keep hammering home his differences with the Democrats on the economy and immigration, that that would make a difference.
00:15:20
Tony Clement
But the other thing, though, you have to agree with me, Jody, I think that the the the Democrats were When Biden was the nominee, they were very listless.
00:15:31
jodiejenkins
Oh they were dead in the water.
00:15:33
Tony Clement
Yeah, they were listless. They were demotivated.
00:15:34
jodiejenkins
Yeah.
00:15:36
Tony Clement
They were shuffling their feet and shrugging their shoulders. And now that Kamala Harris is the nominee, they' they've got some wind in their sails and they they feel very, they seem very motivated now.
00:15:46
Tony Clement
Don't don't you agree?
00:15:47
jodiejenkins
Yeah, to a certain degree, but i all I watched a little bit of the convention so far. I saw some speakers where, to me, I actually i could i was like, is there actually a crowd that they're watching?
00:15:58
jodiejenkins
Because i was I was expecting more energy on some of them.
00:16:00
Tony Clement
Oh, okay.
00:16:01
jodiejenkins
So I i mean, again, i think i think I think the people that are paying attention now,
Trump's Debate Tactics: What Gives Him an Edge?
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jodiejenkins
as you call them, the politicos, and I don't know, I fully expect that when Trump
00:16:09
Tony Clement
Right.
00:16:16
jodiejenkins
and Kamala or Kamala or whatever it is.
00:16:19
Tony Clement
channel yeah whatever
00:16:19
jodiejenkins
I always screw it up. Whenever they get on stage for a debate, I expect that he, he I think he buries her.
00:16:25
Tony Clement
That'll be interesting. Yeah. Yeah. well could Who knows, man.
00:16:28
jodiejenkins
That's what I expect.
00:16:30
Tony Clement
I still maintain that, uh, that, Trump made a big error in agreeing to debate Biden before Biden was nominated.
00:16:40
jodiejenkins
Yeah, no, I know. I remember talking about that on the last show and and you could be right going back just on the debate thing though, but like seriously, like who has, who has been able to match Trump on stage in terms of a debate?
00:16:42
Tony Clement
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:52
Tony Clement
Yeah.
00:16:53
jodiejenkins
I don't, I don't, I, has there been anybody?
00:16:53
Tony Clement
Yeah.
00:16:56
Tony Clement
No, no. Well, no, no, no.
00:16:56
jodiejenkins
No, no, he's dusted everybody.
00:16:58
Tony Clement
Hillary. Yeah. Hillary. No, no, not a chance.
00:17:00
jodiejenkins
Yeah.
00:17:01
Tony Clement
Biden. Biden had his moments four years ago, you know, i would but, you know, at that point, it was not about the debate with between him and Biden.
00:17:12
Tony Clement
So I take that point. But yeah, no, you that's that'll I'm sure a lot of people will watch that too.
00:17:20
jodiejenkins
Oh, yeah, I'm looking forward to that.
00:17:22
Tony Clement
Now, I think people start voting in certain states.
00:17:23
jodiejenkins
Oh,
00:17:26
Tony Clement
Like, uh, I'm, I'm going to say late September, they're, they're, allowed they're allowed to vote early.
00:17:30
jodiejenkins
really? OK.
00:17:33
Tony Clement
So this thing's, uh, this thing's creeping up on us for sure.
00:17:37
jodiejenkins
Interesting. And of.
00:17:38
Tony Clement
And by, and by the way, anything that happens in Canadian politics, no one's paying attention to that right now. It's like, it's like all about American politics.
00:17:44
jodiejenkins
Yeah, yeah, I know.
00:17:47
jodiejenkins
Well, it's funny because I saw the conservative. Well, what they. and the media calls conservatives get into hot water about a video that came out that apparently had some stock.
00:17:53
Tony Clement
Yeah.
00:17:57
jodiejenkins
footage of a Russian jet, not a Canadian fighter jet.
00:17:58
Tony Clement
yeah Yeah.
00:18:00
jodiejenkins
And I'm just like, I'm like, seriously?
00:18:00
Tony Clement
yeah
00:18:02
jodiejenkins
Like, and then I, I read a couple things about it. And I'm like, I'm like, first of all, who is, who is inspecting this stuff so close on those things?
00:18:11
Tony Clement
yeah
00:18:11
jodiejenkins
Like, if you look here, it's the shadow of a Russian fighter pilot versus the, you know, you'll notice the cockpit.
00:18:16
Tony Clement
yeah
00:18:18
jodiejenkins
And I'm just like, Oh my gosh. If that's, if that's all they've got, like, Holy smokes.
00:18:22
Tony Clement
and That's all they've got, exactly. And, and it's such a silly summer season controversy that, uh, and, and I thought Pierre's team did the exactly the right thing.
00:18:28
jodiejenkins
Yeah.
00:18:34
Tony Clement
Oops. Made a mistake.
00:18:35
jodiejenkins
Yeah.
00:18:35
Tony Clement
Won't happen again. We, you know, so what else can you do?
00:18:36
jodiejenkins
Yeah.
00:18:38
Tony Clement
Right.
00:18:39
jodiejenkins
No, I agree.
00:18:39
Tony Clement
Uh, but, uh, yeah, no, it's, it's, but all of this is completely irrelevant for the next federal election here in Canada. Cause no one's paying attention.
Does American Politics Overshadow Canadian Issues?
00:18:49
Tony Clement
That's what I say.
00:18:49
jodiejenkins
Yes. And it's, it's, yeah, I mean the, the American election is going to take up everything in the room.
00:18:58
Tony Clement
Yeah.
00:18:58
jodiejenkins
Like they're getting, it's yeah.
00:18:59
Tony Clement
Until November 5th.
00:19:01
jodiejenkins
Yeah. So I mean, I did not, but I'm sure you're going to share what that entails.
00:19:01
Tony Clement
Did you know I was invited to be an election observer?
00:19:06
Tony Clement
No. Well, I mean, it' it's this whole thing in California, you get to observe the elections and internationals come and observe the elections. in I'm not going.
00:19:18
Tony Clement
It's just not worth it for me to spell out the bucks to do that. But there's a whole five-day program, including yeah you know, uh, on election day, going into ballot stations and then doing some sort of event on election night. But, uh, I think I'll pass, but, uh, yeah, part of me thinks that would have been cool, but it's just not maybe, maybe another time in another country, but, uh, I'm not going to do it.
00:19:46
jodiejenkins
When would and when that would be the final week of the election, you said.
00:19:48
Tony Clement
Yeah. it would be November 1st to the November 5th.
00:19:51
jodiejenkins
OK.
00:19:52
Tony Clement
Yeah, yeah. So it's a little bit pricey, got to say, to to fly all the way to California and to stay in a Marriott hotel and there's a registration fee.
00:20:02
jodiejenkins
So they invite they invite you, and but they don't put you up.
00:20:04
Tony Clement
Yeah, no, no, no, it's all off.
00:20:06
jodiejenkins
oh what's That's weird.
00:20:08
Tony Clement
Yeah, I think somebody's making a little bit of extra money on it too, because I'm going, well, what is this $500 registration fee for? But anyway,
00:20:15
jodiejenkins
i Buddy, we should just set that up and like enter and like invite a bunch of Americans for the Canadian election.
00:20:22
Tony Clement
Yeah, yeah Now you're talking yeah, yeah and registration is a thousand us All right now you're talking yeah, and they have to subscribe to end another thing podcast There we go, okay now we've got a new line of
00:20:22
jodiejenkins
but just how We'll just host them here and say yeah you can come and watch. We'll take you to a couple of voting locations here in Belleville, one in one in the Muskokas.
00:20:36
jodiejenkins
Yeah, registration is $1,000 US. Yeah. Yeah, let's do it.
00:20:45
jodiejenkins
And they have to subscribe to end up doing podcasts. That'd be awesome.
Reports From the Democratic and Republican Conventions
00:20:52
Tony Clement
Monetization, Jodi.
00:20:54
jodiejenkins
i think I think it could work.
00:20:56
Tony Clement
Yeah. Yeah. who Who knows?
00:20:58
Tony Clement
And I, by the way, I've been to two democratic conventions and and four Republican conventions in my time.
00:20:58
jodiejenkins
I think it could.
00:21:01
jodiejenkins
Okay.
00:21:05
jodiejenkins
Okay.
00:21:05
Tony Clement
But I went, I went to both conventions where Obama was nominated.
00:21:10
jodiejenkins
Interesting.
00:21:10
Tony Clement
And, uh, that was quite interesting to see how they do things versus the Republicans. But, uh, yeah, and there's always international observers at these things.
00:21:16
jodiejenkins
i've been I've been to zero. so
00:21:20
Tony Clement
Wow. You don't know what you're missing.
00:21:23
jodiejenkins
I probably don't. I don't but i was well i was just going to say, let's move on to provincial politics because mayor here and here are in our own riding of the Bay of Quinte, we had a little bit of a surprise resignation by our sitting member.
00:21:25
Tony Clement
Are you going to talk a little bit about the local scene?
00:21:30
Tony Clement
Yes.
Local Politics Shake-up: Todd Smith's Resignation
00:21:40
jodiejenkins
who is also the education minister at the time, Todd Smith.
00:21:43
Tony Clement
Yes.
00:21:45
jodiejenkins
He's been an MPP for 13 years, first elected in 2011, and he has resigned.
00:21:49
Tony Clement
Yes.
00:21:51
jodiejenkins
And according to news reports that he has taken a private sector position, hasn't been revealed where he's going, but apparently he starts around September 3rd.
00:22:03
jodiejenkins
He said, you know, he'll leave it up to his new employer to reveal that if they feel to, but he he wasn't going to give that out.
00:22:04
Tony Clement
Okay.
00:22:10
jodiejenkins
But the consensus is that, you know, he was a very successful energy minister prior to being the education minister.
00:22:16
Tony Clement
Yes.
Who Will Replace Todd Smith? Speculations Abound
00:22:19
Tony Clement
Oh, interesting.
00:22:19
jodiejenkins
And he was viewed, viewed very highly. So there's a a belief that he will be in the energy sector. So yeah.
00:22:25
Tony Clement
Well, we wish him well.
00:22:25
jodiejenkins
gone
00:22:26
Tony Clement
He's had a, he had a good run. Uh, and, uh, and, uh, we thank him for his service. I know you knew him well and I saw him.
00:22:34
jodiejenkins
Yeah, he was great. He was amazing.
00:22:35
Tony Clement
Yeah. I had, I had a little meal with him around the time of your golf tournament, as I indicated to you. And, uh, yeah, we all thought he was taking on this new role as education minister, but, uh, now it's the honorable Jill Dunlop.
00:22:50
jodiejenkins
Yes.
00:22:51
Tony Clement
who takes on that role.
00:22:51
jodiejenkins
Yes, Jill Dunlop.
00:22:53
Tony Clement
Yeah. Garfield's daughter. I, I served with Garfield Dunlop in the Ontario legislature back in the day.
00:22:58
jodiejenkins
OK.
00:22:59
Tony Clement
Now her, daughter his daughter rather is the now the education minister. So good for her.
00:23:04
jodiejenkins
Yeah. So it'll be, uh, interesting to see what happens.
00:23:06
Tony Clement
Are you, are you running for the nomination, Jodi?
00:23:09
jodiejenkins
No, no. So I, you know, by the time this comes out, everything might not be a rumor anymore, but but there is a city councilor, uh, currently in Belleville, uh, named Tyler Alsop.
00:23:15
Tony Clement
Right.
00:23:22
Tony Clement
Mhmm.
00:23:22
jodiejenkins
And also as the chair of the police services board, he's been a councilor for a year and a half. So relatively new, uh, he's ran in a couple municipal elections.
00:23:27
Tony Clement
Right.
00:23:30
jodiejenkins
He lost a couple before he was appointed actually. uh, when someone left council and then he ended up winning the subsequent election. But the word on the street, and again, this might be a hundred percent fact by tomorrow or when this comes out is that he has been already appointed as the PC candidate and then a by-elect will be called.
00:23:47
Tony Clement
There you go. You heard it here first.
00:23:50
jodiejenkins
Yeah. Well, yes. Yes. So and now the pressure.
00:23:53
Tony Clement
And, and, and he was an invitee to, and another thing, podcast.
00:23:57
jodiejenkins
Yes, well, he was, yeah, so we might've talked about this a little bit, but he was like at the center of a massive controversy because he finished as a runner up in one of the elections that he lost.
00:24:01
Tony Clement
Yeah.
00:24:07
Tony Clement
Right.
00:24:09
jodiejenkins
And then what happened is MP Ryan Williams federally was elected and left council.
Council Vacancies: Traditional Practices vs. New Proposals
00:24:16
jodiejenkins
So council traditionally in Belleville, and again, this differs between councils.
00:24:20
jodiejenkins
They have options in terms of how they fill that seed, but traditionally in Belleville, it was always they a po appoint the next in line.
00:24:22
Tony Clement
Right.
00:24:26
Tony Clement
Okay. Right.
00:24:26
jodiejenkins
That's kind of just what they've done.
00:24:28
jodiejenkins
And the sitting mayor at the time, mit Mitch Panchuk was bucking the trend and wanted to have kind of a different type of appointment process, which Literally the whole community went crazy about and everyone wanted Tyler in there and the counselors heard an earful and they all flip flopped and they changed their minds and then they ended up appointing Tyler.
00:24:54
jodiejenkins
And then in the next election, which was 2022, Tyler was the top vote getter council position.
00:25:00
Tony Clement
OK.
00:25:01
jodiejenkins
So he's been in there since 22. He's the chair of the police services board. And it sounds like the.
Rising Star: Tyler Alsop's Political Journey
00:25:09
jodiejenkins
concert PCs have tapped him to be the next, to be the candidate.
00:25:11
Tony Clement
Yeah. And how how how old is he, Ian?
00:25:14
jodiejenkins
I'm guessing he's got to be early thirties, like 30, maybe like, no, I don't think so.
00:25:17
Tony Clement
OK. OK, so he's not in his 20s. OK.
00:25:20
jodiejenkins
I think he was in his twenties the first time he ran for council, but I'm pretty like, he might be like 31 32 or something like that.
00:25:23
Tony Clement
OK, gotcha. OK.
00:25:27
jodiejenkins
and
00:25:27
Tony Clement
Well, we're going to lay claim because we did invite him onto the show and something happened where he couldn't make it or something. But he's he's almost like another guest who's made good because they were on a podcast.
00:25:36
jodiejenkins
Exactly. He got the, he got the, and another thing, rub, like even just, just talking about him, like just sends him to the moon.
00:25:40
Tony Clement
Yeah, exactly. a Exactly.
00:25:44
jodiejenkins
The stock just went up. Stock just went up immensely.
00:25:47
Tony Clement
That's what we do around here.
00:25:47
jodiejenkins
So yeah.
00:25:49
Tony Clement
That's what we do.
00:25:49
jodiejenkins
So it's, uh, it's yeah.
00:25:49
Tony Clement
We're very good at spotting
00:25:52
jodiejenkins
So it'll
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00:25:52
jodiejenkins
be, it'll be in interesting. Yeah.
00:25:52
Tony Clement
the winners.
00:25:53
Tony Clement
Yeah.
00:25:54
jodiejenkins
It'll be, it'll be interesting. Again, we, we throw that out. If you're an aspiring politician, uh, you can, you can come on this program. Again, you'll get the, and another thing, rub.
00:26:02
Tony Clement
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00:26:04
jodiejenkins
and sponsor. But i what I was going to say, Tony, is that it says doesn't something will happen in your career, something of like something of magnitude.
00:26:11
Tony Clement
Yeah.
00:26:14
Tony Clement
Yes.
00:26:15
jodiejenkins
We can't always guarantee that it's a promotion, but something will help you. make You'll make headlines one way or the other.
00:26:21
Tony Clement
You'll make headlines like Bonnie Crombie.
00:26:22
jodiejenkins
Yeah.
00:26:23
Tony Clement
She went from being mayor of Mississauga to liberal leader of a third place party.
00:26:23
jodiejenkins
Yeah. like
00:26:28
Tony Clement
So I'm not sure whether that's a promotion or not, but something happened with Bonnie, right?
00:26:29
jodiejenkins
Yes.
00:26:33
jodiejenkins
Yes, yes.
00:26:33
Tony Clement
but We can say that.
00:26:34
jodiejenkins
So it's it's it's it's up to you, the the individual that's listening and goes, I just really need a bump in my political aspirations.
00:26:41
Tony Clement
Exactly.
00:26:43
jodiejenkins
So if that's you, reach out to us.
00:26:43
Tony Clement
Yeah, this is it. Yeah, exactly. And we, you know, and sponsor.
00:26:47
jodiejenkins
You can actually on Spotify, spot of yeah and sponsor, and Spotify, you can actually comment now on our podcast.
00:26:47
Tony Clement
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00:26:53
Tony Clement
That's right. Yes. Yes.
Listener Engagement: Commenting and Interacting
00:26:54
Tony Clement
We, please, we encourage our listeners to to comment on the Spotify app because that, that helps our engagement too.
00:26:54
jodiejenkins
so
00:27:01
Tony Clement
And we really appreciate it. Getting the feedback too. You don't have to bump into me at the gym. You can just do it online, har harass me, harass me in the gym.
00:27:08
jodiejenkins
In fact, Tony prefers that you don't talk to him. Tony prefers that you don't talk to him at the gym.
00:27:12
Tony Clement
see yeah Exactly. Yeah.
00:27:15
jodiejenkins
I thought you were going to say that a guy came up and said, are you are you Tony Clement? You're like, but yes, I am. He's like, are you done with the fives?
00:27:22
Tony Clement
had
Wrapping Things Up: Teasers and Thanks
00:27:23
Tony Clement
done with Exactly. That was the next question.
00:27:26
jodiejenkins
And you're like, no, no, I got a couple more sets of bench.
00:27:29
Tony Clement
Yeah, I got two more reps. Yeah, exactly.
00:27:33
jodiejenkins
Oh, yes.
00:27:33
Tony Clement
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00:27:33
jodiejenkins
But make sure you comment on Spotify. And of course, any other we're on all the platforms.
00:27:35
Tony Clement
Yes, please.
00:27:38
Tony Clement
Yes, yes.
00:27:38
jodiejenkins
We're big time. We're huge.
00:27:40
Tony Clement
We are and hopefully our next guest will work out and we'll get that on the air as soon as we can too.
00:27:40
jodiejenkins
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00:27:46
Tony Clement
So lots of good content coming up, folks.
00:27:49
jodiejenkins
Absolutely. So that wraps up another episode. Thanks again to John Mutton and the team at Municipal Solutions. You can find them online at municipalsolutions.ca. They've been our presenting sponsors since day one.
00:28:02
jodiejenkins
And we're so appreciative of that.
00:28:04
Tony Clement
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00:28:16
Tony Clement
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00:28:18
jodiejenkins
All right, Tony, we'll do this again in seven days.
00:28:20
Tony Clement
Yes, sir.