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jodiejenkins: Welcome to, and another thing, the podcast that continues to set the bar in the world of podcasts. My name is Jody Jenkins, and we have an absolute banger, a banger of an episode for you tonight.
Tony Clement: And my name is Tony Clement. A banger.
Tony Clement: That God ever created.
jodiejenkins: There you go, right there. There you go, right there, right there, right there.
Tony Clement: That's a banger.
jodiejenkins: Let's, we should ask, it it's too bad he's not on, well, I shouldn't say I don't know that he, on Cameo, because we should get him to do like, you I know who is on Cameo, lots of impersonators of Trump, but we should get, we should get a sound bite of, this is the greatest podcast that God ever created.
Tony Clement: impersonators. Yeah.
Tony Clement: That's right. Heard it from the source.
jodiejenkins: So, like I got to hear that again, because I just love how he, he nails it there.
Tony Clement: you Do it.
Tony Clement: There we go.
jodiejenkins: I think the kicker is how confident he is in saying that.
Tony Clement: Oh, yeah.
jodiejenkins: Like he doesn't question it.
Tony Clement: There's no question.
jodiejenkins: He believes it.
Tony Clement: There's no question.
jodiejenkins: He believes it.
Tony Clement: Yeah, absolutely.
jodiejenkins: So anyway, this show each week is brought to you by the crew at municipal solutions.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
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Tony Clement: yeah Yeah, he's got the gold medal in something.
jodiejenkins: and trophies, John does have an amazing team that does some amazing work. So why don't you share a little bit about that.
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Tony Clement: He was in Las Vegas for some international event and came back with a mittful of medals, Jodi, a mittful. He was, he's, he's like the greatest jujitsu that God ever created right there.
jodiejenkins: he's like a yeah he's like a winner all the time now he's like that's what that's what he needs right there
Tony Clement: Jiu -Jitsu.
Tony Clement: Oh my gosh, should we crack us up?
jodiejenkins: the
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jodiejenkins: And Tony, tell tell the story. You called me the other day, left a voicemail, and shared a little bit about a listener story.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: But tell me tell me about it, because I think it's a pretty funny story.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Okay. Sure. So I was at the gym doing my workout in Huntsville, Ontario in Muskoka. And this gentleman approached me and said, excuse me, are you Tony Clement? I said, yes, I am. And he said, well, I just want to say I really first first of all, thank you for your service to our country. You did a great job. And he said, oh, yeah, are you from the area? And he says, well, my parents are from the area, but I'm i'm actually a political science professor at Bishop University and in the province of Quebec. And they're like, oh, OK. Wow. wow
Tony Clement: Thank you. And then he said, and I especially love your podcast. and And I always do this thing because I don't know whether they're speaking about my boom and bust but but broadcast or whether they're talking about and another thing podcast.
Tony Clement: And I said, are you talking about the broadcast? And he said, no, no, your podcast and another thing you and Jody Jenkins. I said, OK, well, thank you for listening. and he He listens to every episode.
Tony Clement: So.
jodiejenkins: Now, Tony, Tony, like, let's be honest here, I know you've got a great TV show and i'm we're very proud of you, but clearly, clearly the the majority of people that are coming up to you are not talking about the TV program.
Tony Clement: Yes, yes.
Tony Clement: Clearly.
Tony Clement: No, no, you're right, Joni. It's all about the podcast. And we appreciate all of our listeners because they're obviously very fanatical about it. And yeah, this is a political science prof who listens to this podcast on a regular basis.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, and i thought I thought that was an interesting story. And then the another interesting story in the world of podcasts that I wanted to share, and a kind of a multiple angles on this, but you're always sending me articles about the podcast industry.
Tony Clement: Yes.
jodiejenkins: Tony's very good at doing that type of thing and staying up to date on podcasts. I don't think I ever send articles on podcasts. And so I do appreciate you doing that.
jodiejenkins: But anyway, One thing I'm starting to see the trend is like like if we stick at this and keep going, there's no question that we'll be billionaires very soon.
Tony Clement: Apparently, I mean, it's it's a very good
jodiejenkins: Like radio is being gutted if you if you believe everything that you read.
Tony Clement: Well, radio is, I mean, they're talking about AM radio dying and they're talking about talk radio dying. That was the latest article I read today. I think I sent you that one too, didn't I?
Tony Clement: About talk radio.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tony Clement: And of course, CHML in Hamilton is no more.
jodiejenkins: Well, this is yeah, go ahead, sorry.
Tony Clement: I mean, it's, it's shuttered and it's been around for almost a hundred years, Jodi. It's crazy.
jodiejenkins: Yeah. And it's interesting. It's interesting because I mean, you've seen, you know, this isn't just a Canadian thing, by the way. And the article you sent me talks about this happening in the States.
Tony Clement: No, no, no. new New York City, everywhere.
jodiejenkins: It's like, yeah, there's trends. There's trends all over. And, you know, in Canada specifically, obviously we had Bell Media with massive layoffs and more still to come.
Tony Clement: Right.
jodiejenkins: Or sorry, cuts, not just layoffs. People they're not they're people aren't coming back.
Tony Clement: Cuts.
jodiejenkins: And that's across the board. That's not just in their media broadcasting entities. It's across the board. But chorus entertainment, same type of thing just happened.
Tony Clement: Same thing. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Shuttering stations, closing them down, shutting things down. So it's it's interesting. I mean, I'm a radio person by trade, been in the business for over 20 years.
jodiejenkins: So it's like, part of me still wants to believe that radio is viable. And I'm not saying it's not. It's just much, much different. like People like the the generations that are coming up now consume in a much, much different way, right?
Tony Clement: Yes.
jodiejenkins: Like it's it's short, quick sound bites, it's short, quick clips, and it literally is, it can be accessed anywhere, like whether it's X,
Tony Clement: Yes, we do.
jodiejenkins: whether it's Instagram, whether it's TikTok, and I'll give you a perfect YouTube, yeah like a perfect example is like, yeah again, I've talked about many, many a time on the show, like I'm a huge wrestling fan.
Tony Clement: YouTube. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: I don't even need to watch wrestling on television. It used to be only that if you only had cable. that you could watch like say Monday Night Raw on WWE, et cetera, et cetera.
Tony Clement: Right.
jodiejenkins: But I don't even need to watch it on television because WWE wwe for years now puts the most, you know, the best content, the most viewed content bang on X bang on Instagram.
Tony Clement: Right.
jodiejenkins: Like you, you can stay up to date with the show without even turning the TV on. And I think that's, yeah.
Tony Clement: Yeah. 100%. Yeah. I mean, and hockey playoffs, same thing. but when i'm When I'm not glued to the tube for whatever reason, I just i just see the highlights as the goals are scored.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: they're They're recording them and putting them on X or wherever.
jodiejenkins: Yeah. So, I mean, in the radio world, of course, the yeah the the argument is that, we're you know, areas are losing that local flavor, that local touch.
jodiejenkins: And I, again, I don't disagree with that, but the model is broken and clearly advertising dollars and revenue is down.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: You know, I'm sure there's some stations that are doing well, don't get me wrong. But overall, I think that, you know, it's a wake up call and I think this will continue to happen, to be honest.
Tony Clement: I think so and you probably are aware and maybe our listeners are aware too that the AM radio is under direct threat from electric vehicles because a a lot of the manufacturers of electric vehicles don't want to include AM radio in the vehicle at all because because the frequency interferes with certain electrical systems in the car.
jodiejenkins: Okay.
jodiejenkins: Okay.
Tony Clement: So they're, they're just, they're kind of insisting that there be no am radio, which would be the death knell of an entire genre. Like am radio was, it was the original radio before FM.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: And, uh, and now there's like, I think there's a bill before Congress to prevent Tesla and other manufacturers from, from not including am radio, but I don't know where that's going to lead.
Tony Clement: But if, if that ever comes to pass, that'll be another tectonic shift for sure.
jodiejenkins: But, and I don't know if we're at liberty to share this yet, but what the electric companies have looked at doing with their cars across the board is making, and another thing, mandatory in every car.
Tony Clement: Yes. That's true. Yes.
jodiejenkins: So 100%, like they'll pull you over and they'll ask, what are you listening to?
Tony Clement: In in in a constant loop.
Tony Clement: What are you listening to?
jodiejenkins: And there's like, there's a couple top options and and another thing is right up there.
Tony Clement: and Right up there, and and they've got to be able to say that we set the bar.
jodiejenkins: Exactly.
Tony Clement: And we're the greatest thing that God has ever provided, or whatever the cord is.
jodiejenkins: But I will tell you this, and this i mean I'm not going to get into all the numbers. It's all public public knowledge and available to the public on CRTC. But man, you and I, we could have bought a couple of stations on the cheap.
jodiejenkins: I was looking at what Bell sold some of their stations for.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Crazy. Crazy.
Tony Clement: Like $10 ,000 or something or okay.
jodiejenkins: Like crazy. Well, no, not that low. Like, let's not be ridiculous.
Tony Clement: That'd be totally okay.
jodiejenkins: But, but like, no, like if someone if someone said to you that, like, again, I'm not going to give this specific station because I don't want to screw up the numbers.
Tony Clement: Okay.
jodiejenkins: But if someone said to you, you know, buy this, you know, how much do you think a radio station in, like, Kingston or, you know, like, Oshawa would be?
Tony Clement: Big market. Yeah. Big market.
jodiejenkins: You'd go, like, yeah I would think, I mean, staffing, lease obligations, building.
Tony Clement: Couple million. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Yes.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Couple million.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Try like a third of that.
Tony Clement: Wow.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, for some of them.
Tony Clement: Wow.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: That's bananas, man.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: I know. like and as as a Again, as a radio guy, if someone said if someone said to me, you can have your own radio station for half a million, and they were serious, I'd be like, I'm getting people together to do that.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Because that's like that's just mind blowing. So anyway.
Tony Clement: the The other thing, of course, that people don't realize, Jodi, is that now moving away from radio per se, but talking about journalism and journalists, the Trudeau government is subsidizing journalist positions to the extent of $60 ,000 a year.
jodiejenkins: Wow.
Tony Clement: So if if you've got a journalist make an 80 K, 60 ,000 of that is coming from the Canadian government.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Wow.
Tony Clement: I mean, that's crazy.
jodiejenkins: That's crazy.
Tony Clement: And that that's, that's why some people, I'm not saying all people, but some people have a sc skepticism, shall we say about whether these journalists and, or their parent company can be truly unbiased when it comes to reporting the news.
jodiejenkins: Yo, yes.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, no, it makes makes a good point.
Tony Clement: It's a problem. It's a problem.
jodiejenkins: move Moving on to other topics, of course, Democrats gathering and giving Joe Biden kind of a ceremonial send off.
jodiejenkins: And of course we're hearing a push off.
Tony Clement: You could call it a send off or a push off at 11 o 'clock at night.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, it just gets up on stage, starts to speak and they're like, thank you, Joe.
Tony Clement: Thanks.
jodiejenkins: Let's get my end.
Tony Clement: Yeah, this is a big hook. Yeah, exactly. Oh my gosh. Yeah, no.
jodiejenkins: it's it's It's interesting.
Tony Clement: And and there is a there is a conspiracy theory, of course, that they the Democrats deliberately delayed things so that he wouldn't be in prime time when he was doing his speech.
jodiejenkins: yeah Oh my gosh.
Tony Clement: I don't know whether they could be that cruel, but I mean, politics is cruel, let's face it. So yeah, I mean, And he he, as soon as he finished, he hopped on a plane and went to California.
Tony Clement: He did not stay for the rest of the Democratic convention, including the speeches of of the Obamas and the night after.
jodiejenkins: Wow.
Tony Clement: So, yes, it's I think it's it's a little bit still bit but sore with him, as one could imagine, that his erstwhile friends were busy stabbing him multiple times in the back when when they decided he was done, you know.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, that's gotta be rough.
Tony Clement: It's got to be dropped.
jodiejenkins: What a series of events say over the last month.
Tony Clement: Oh, can you imagine like in the last month, all of this has happened, you know, a month ago, we were still in the Republican convention and things look very different, but no, they listened.
Tony Clement: Uh, I'll say it, uh, Kamala Harris has got momentum and, uh, she's playing on that and she's got a lot of smart people that are playing on that. So we'll see where it takes her in the next 75 days.
jodiejenkins: I'm still sticking with Donald.
Tony Clement: The Donald?
jodiejenkins: Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't think anyone's really paying attention. And these are kind of like the dog days of summer. and I think the the only the only people paying attention are people like you and me, people that are you know in the bubble, you know people that eat, sleep, and breathe that stuff.
Tony Clement: That's true.
Tony Clement: at politicoats Yeah, politicals, yeah.
jodiejenkins: But I think the average individual, not even checked in. So i'm I'm still maintaining that once people start to focus on the actual race, focus on the messaging, I fully expect that Trump's team will start to change the message a bit.
Tony Clement: But with you yeah, I mean, I mean, he's got two, two issues that he is very strong on according to the polls and that's immigration and the economy.
jodiejenkins: but
Tony Clement: So if he can be disciplined about things and just keep hammering home his differences with the Democrats on the economy and immigration, that that would make a difference.
Tony Clement: But the other thing, though, you have to agree with me, Jody, I think that the the the Democrats were When Biden was the nominee, they were very listless.
jodiejenkins: Oh they were dead in the water.
Tony Clement: Yeah, they were listless. They were demotivated.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: They were shuffling their feet and shrugging their shoulders. And now that Kamala Harris is the nominee, they' they've got some wind in their sails and they they feel very, they seem very motivated now.
Tony Clement: Don't don't you agree?
jodiejenkins: Yeah, to a certain degree, but i all I watched a little bit of the convention so far. I saw some speakers where, to me, I actually i could i was like, is there actually a crowd that they're watching?
jodiejenkins: Because i was I was expecting more energy on some of them.
Tony Clement: Oh, okay.
jodiejenkins: So I i mean, again, i think i think I think the people that are paying attention now, as you call them, the politicos, and I don't know, I fully expect that when Trump
Tony Clement: Right.
jodiejenkins: and Kamala or Kamala or whatever it is.
Tony Clement: channel yeah whatever
jodiejenkins: I always screw it up. Whenever they get on stage for a debate, I expect that he, he I think he buries her.
Tony Clement: That'll be interesting. Yeah. Yeah. well could Who knows, man.
jodiejenkins: That's what I expect.
Tony Clement: I still maintain that, uh, that, Trump made a big error in agreeing to debate Biden before Biden was nominated.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, no, I know. I remember talking about that on the last show and and you could be right going back just on the debate thing though, but like seriously, like who has, who has been able to match Trump on stage in terms of a debate?
Tony Clement: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: I don't, I don't, I, has there been anybody?
Tony Clement: Yeah.
Tony Clement: No, no. Well, no, no, no.
jodiejenkins: No, no, he's dusted everybody.
Tony Clement: Hillary. Yeah. Hillary. No, no, not a chance.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: Biden. Biden had his moments four years ago, you know, i would but, you know, at that point, it was not about the debate with between him and Biden.
Tony Clement: So I take that point. But yeah, no, you that's that'll I'm sure a lot of people will watch that too.
jodiejenkins: Oh, yeah, I'm looking forward to that.
Tony Clement: Now, I think people start voting in certain states.
jodiejenkins: Oh,
Tony Clement: Like, uh, I'm, I'm going to say late September, they're, they're, allowed they're allowed to vote early.
jodiejenkins: really? OK.
Tony Clement: So this thing's, uh, this thing's creeping up on us for sure.
jodiejenkins: Interesting. And of.
Tony Clement: And by, and by the way, anything that happens in Canadian politics, no one's paying attention to that right now. It's like, it's like all about American politics.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, yeah, I know.
jodiejenkins: Well, it's funny because I saw the conservative. Well, what they. and the media calls conservatives get into hot water about a video that came out that apparently had some stock.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: footage of a Russian jet, not a Canadian fighter jet.
Tony Clement: yeah Yeah.
jodiejenkins: And I'm just like, I'm like, seriously?
Tony Clement: yeah
jodiejenkins: Like, and then I, I read a couple things about it. And I'm like, I'm like, first of all, who is, who is inspecting this stuff so close on those things?
Tony Clement: yeah
jodiejenkins: Like, if you look here, it's the shadow of a Russian fighter pilot versus the, you know, you'll notice the cockpit.
Tony Clement: yeah
jodiejenkins: And I'm just like, Oh my gosh. If that's, if that's all they've got, like, Holy smokes.
Tony Clement: and That's all they've got, exactly. And, and it's such a silly summer season controversy that, uh, and, and I thought Pierre's team did the exactly the right thing.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: Oops. Made a mistake.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: Won't happen again. We, you know, so what else can you do?
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: Right.
jodiejenkins: No, I agree.
Tony Clement: Uh, but, uh, yeah, no, it's, it's, but all of this is completely irrelevant for the next federal election here in Canada. Cause no one's paying attention. That's what I say.
jodiejenkins: Yes. And it's, it's, yeah, I mean the, the American election is going to take up everything in the room.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: Like they're getting, it's yeah.
Tony Clement: Until November 5th.
jodiejenkins: Yeah. So I mean, I did not, but I'm sure you're going to share what that entails.
Tony Clement: Did you know I was invited to be an election observer?
Tony Clement: No. Well, I mean, it' it's this whole thing in California, you get to observe the elections and internationals come and observe the elections. in I'm not going.
Tony Clement: It's just not worth it for me to spell out the bucks to do that. But there's a whole five -day program, including yeah you know, uh, on election day, going into ballot stations and then doing some sort of event on election night. But, uh, I think I'll pass, but, uh, yeah, part of me thinks that would have been cool, but it's just not maybe, maybe another time in another country, but, uh, I'm not going to do it.
jodiejenkins: When would and when that would be the final week of the election, you said.
Tony Clement: Yeah. it would be November 1st to the November 5th.
jodiejenkins: OK.
Tony Clement: Yeah, yeah. So it's a little bit pricey, got to say, to to fly all the way to California and to stay in a Marriott hotel and there's a registration fee.
jodiejenkins: So they invite they invite you, and but they don't put you up.
Tony Clement: Yeah, no, no, no, it's all off.
jodiejenkins: oh what's That's weird.
Tony Clement: Yeah, I think somebody's making a little bit of extra money on it too, because I'm going, well, what is this $500 registration fee for? But anyway,
jodiejenkins: i Buddy, we should just set that up and like enter and like invite a bunch of Americans for the Canadian election.
Tony Clement: Yeah, yeah Now you're talking yeah, yeah and registration is a thousand us All right now you're talking yeah, and they have to subscribe to end another thing podcast There we go, okay now we've got a new line of
jodiejenkins: but just how We'll just host them here and say yeah you can come and watch. We'll take you to a couple of voting locations here in Belleville, one in one in the Muskokas.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, registration is $1 ,000 US. Yeah. Yeah, let's do it.
jodiejenkins: And they have to subscribe to end up doing podcasts. That'd be awesome.
Tony Clement: Monetization, Jodi.
jodiejenkins: i think I think it could work.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Yeah. who Who knows?
jodiejenkins: I think it could.
Tony Clement: And I, by the way, I've been to two democratic conventions and and four Republican conventions in my time.
jodiejenkins: Okay.
jodiejenkins: Okay.
Tony Clement: But I went, I went to both conventions where Obama was nominated.
jodiejenkins: Interesting.
Tony Clement: And, uh, that was quite interesting to see how they do things versus the Republicans. But, uh, yeah, and there's always international observers at these things.
jodiejenkins: i've been I've been to zero. so
Tony Clement: Wow. You don't know what you're missing.
jodiejenkins: I probably don't. I don't but i was well i was just going to say, let's move on to provincial politics because mayor here and here are in our own riding of the Bay of Quinte, we had a little bit of a surprise resignation by our sitting member.
Tony Clement: Are you going to talk a little bit about the local scene?
Tony Clement: Yes.
jodiejenkins: who is also the education minister at the time, Todd Smith.
Tony Clement: Yes.
jodiejenkins: He's been an MPP for 13 years, first elected in 2011, and he has resigned.
Tony Clement: Yes.
jodiejenkins: And according to news reports that he has taken a private sector position, hasn't been revealed where he's going, but apparently he starts around September 3rd.
jodiejenkins: He said, you know, he'll leave it up to his new employer to reveal that if they feel to, but he he wasn't going to give that out.
Tony Clement: Okay.
jodiejenkins: But the consensus is that, you know, he was a very successful energy minister prior to being the education minister.
Tony Clement: Yes.
Tony Clement: Oh, interesting.
jodiejenkins: And he was viewed, viewed very highly. So there's a a belief that he will be in the energy sector. So yeah.
Tony Clement: Well, we wish him well.
jodiejenkins: gone
Tony Clement: He's had a, he had a good run. Uh, and, uh, and, uh, we thank him for his service. I know you knew him well and I saw him.
jodiejenkins: Yeah, he was great. He was amazing.
Tony Clement: Yeah. I had, I had a little meal with him around the time of your golf tournament, as I indicated to you. And, uh, yeah, we all thought he was taking on this new role as education minister, but, uh, now it's the honorable Jill Dunlop.
jodiejenkins: Yes.
Tony Clement: who takes on that role.
jodiejenkins: Yes, Jill Dunlop.
Tony Clement: Yeah. Garfield's daughter. I, I served with Garfield Dunlop in the Ontario legislature back in the day.
jodiejenkins: OK.
Tony Clement: Now her, daughter his daughter rather is the now the education minister. So good for her.
jodiejenkins: Yeah. So it'll be, uh, interesting to see what happens.
Tony Clement: Are you, are you running for the nomination, Jodi?
jodiejenkins: No, no. So I, you know, by the time this comes out, everything might not be a rumor anymore, but but there is a city councilor, uh, currently in Belleville, uh, named Tyler Alsop.
Tony Clement: Right.
Tony Clement: Mhmm.
jodiejenkins: And also as the chair of the police services board, he's been a councilor for a year and a half. So relatively new, uh, he's ran in a couple municipal elections.
Tony Clement: Right.
jodiejenkins: He lost a couple before he was appointed actually. uh, when someone left council and then he ended up winning the subsequent election. But the word on the street, and again, this might be a hundred percent fact by tomorrow or when this comes out is that he has been already appointed as the PC candidate and then a by -elect will be called.
Tony Clement: There you go. You heard it here first.
jodiejenkins: Yeah. Well, yes. Yes. So and now the pressure.
Tony Clement: And, and, and he was an invitee to, and another thing, podcast.
jodiejenkins: Yes, well, he was, yeah, so we might've talked about this a little bit, but he was like at the center of a massive controversy because he finished as a runner up in one of the elections that he lost.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
Tony Clement: Right.
jodiejenkins: And then what happened is MP Ryan Williams federally was elected and left council. So council traditionally in Belleville, and again, this differs between councils.
jodiejenkins: They have options in terms of how they fill that seed, but traditionally in Belleville, it was always they a po appoint the next in line.
Tony Clement: Right.
jodiejenkins: That's kind of just what they've done.
Tony Clement: Okay. Right.
jodiejenkins: And the sitting mayor at the time, mit Mitch Panchuk was bucking the trend and wanted to have kind of a different type of appointment process, which Literally the whole community went crazy about and everyone wanted Tyler in there and the counselors heard an earful and they all flip flopped and they changed their minds and then they ended up appointing Tyler.
jodiejenkins: And then in the next election, which was 2022, Tyler was the top vote getter council position.
Tony Clement: OK.
jodiejenkins: So he's been in there since 22. He's the chair of the police services board. And it sounds like the. concert PCs have tapped him to be the next, to be the candidate.
Tony Clement: Yeah. And how how how old is he, Ian?
jodiejenkins: I'm guessing he's got to be early thirties, like 30, maybe like, no, I don't think so.
Tony Clement: OK. OK, so he's not in his 20s. OK.
jodiejenkins: I think he was in his twenties the first time he ran for council, but I'm pretty like, he might be like 31 32 or something like that.
Tony Clement: OK, gotcha. OK.
jodiejenkins: and
Tony Clement: Well, we're going to lay claim because we did invite him onto the show and something happened where he couldn't make it or something. But he's he's almost like another guest who's made good because they were on a podcast.
jodiejenkins: Exactly. He got the, he got the, and another thing, rub, like even just, just talking about him, like just sends him to the moon.
Tony Clement: Yeah, exactly. a Exactly.
jodiejenkins: The stock just went up. Stock just went up immensely.
Tony Clement: That's what we do around here.
jodiejenkins: So yeah.
Tony Clement: That's what we do.
jodiejenkins: So it's, uh, it's yeah.
Tony Clement: We're very good at spotting the winners.
jodiejenkins: So it'll be, it'll be in interesting. Yeah.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
jodiejenkins: It'll be, it'll be interesting. Again, we, we throw that out. If you're an aspiring politician, uh, you can, you can come on this program. Again, you'll get the, and another thing, rub.
Tony Clement: And, and, and, and sponsor and sponsor us too.
jodiejenkins: and sponsor. But i what I was going to say, Tony, is that it says doesn't something will happen in your career, something of like something of magnitude.
Tony Clement: Yeah.
Tony Clement: Yes.
jodiejenkins: We can't always guarantee that it's a promotion, but something will help you. make You'll make headlines one way or the other.
Tony Clement: You'll make headlines like Bonnie Crombie.
jodiejenkins: Yeah.
Tony Clement: She went from being mayor of Mississauga to liberal leader of a third place party.
jodiejenkins: Yeah. like
Tony Clement: So I'm not sure whether that's a promotion or not, but something happened with Bonnie, right?
jodiejenkins: Yes.
jodiejenkins: Yes, yes.
Tony Clement: but We can say that.
jodiejenkins: So it's it's it's it's up to you, the the individual that's listening and goes, I just really need a bump in my political aspirations.
Tony Clement: Exactly.
jodiejenkins: So if that's you, reach out to us.
Tony Clement: Yeah, this is it. Yeah, exactly. And we, you know, and sponsor.
jodiejenkins: You can actually on Spotify, spot of yeah and sponsor, and Spotify, you can actually comment now on our podcast.
Tony Clement: and but and sponsor
Tony Clement: That's right. Yes. Yes. We, please, we encourage our listeners to to comment on the Spotify app because that, that helps our engagement too.
jodiejenkins: so
Tony Clement: And we really appreciate it. Getting the feedback too. You don't have to bump into me at the gym. You can just do it online, har harass me, harass me in the gym.
jodiejenkins: In fact, Tony prefers that you don't talk to him. Tony prefers that you don't talk to him at the gym.
Tony Clement: see yeah Exactly. Yeah.
jodiejenkins: I thought you were going to say that a guy came up and said, are you are you Tony Clement? You're like, but yes, I am. He's like, are you done with the fives?
Tony Clement: had done with Exactly. That was the next question.
jodiejenkins: And you're like, no, no, I got a couple more sets of bench.
Tony Clement: Yeah, I got two more reps. Yeah, exactly.
jodiejenkins: Oh, yes.
Tony Clement: like
jodiejenkins: But make sure you comment on Spotify. And of course, any other we're on all the platforms.
Tony Clement: Yes, please.
Tony Clement: Yes, yes.
jodiejenkins: We're big time. We're huge.
Tony Clement: We are and hopefully our next guest will work out and we'll get that on the air as soon as we can too.
jodiejenkins: We're huge in Japan.
Tony Clement: So lots of good content coming up, folks.
jodiejenkins: Absolutely. So that wraps up another episode. Thanks again to John Mutton and the team at Municipal Solutions. You can find them online at municipalsolutions .ca. They've been our presenting sponsors since day one.
jodiejenkins: And we're so appreciative of that.
Tony Clement: Yes. And we also thank Kelly Mitchell for coming on board KWM consulting .com or 416 -728 -8287 hundreds Bay radio .com Saturday mornings.
Tony Clement: They repeat this podcast.
jodiejenkins: All right, Tony, we'll do this again in seven days.
Tony Clement: Yes, sir.
